Kink Across Ethnic Groups (The Sordid Statistics)
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss a concept that has been around for a long time, and that is that testosterone levels vary by racial and ethnic groups by how horny they get naturally. In particular, testosterone is the key factor in sex drive, and if a population has higher testosterone levels, they tend to have higher sex drive. But what does this mean for race and ethnicity? And why does this matter?
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hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be discussing a
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concept a fan of ours brought up i heard it and i was like hey that's interesting i want to dig
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into that see what the data says so they were like when they were younger and they were into
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like the science of racial differences and stuff like this they had remembered seeing a hypothesis
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and the hypothesis went like this if you take ethnic groups and you sort them by how horny they
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get naturally right like like how horny is this group how horny this girl how susceptible are they
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it typically goes asians at the bottom then whites then hispanics then africans and he said and this
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is potentially why you see higher levels of weird kinks and fetish content within
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populations like within the most being within asian populations right because this is where
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hentai and all of that weirdness comes from and you know even tentacle porn going back to like you know
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medieval period and stuff like the fisherman's wife and then you see you know
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more but not as much in white populations then you see less in hispanic populations and then you see
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very little in black populations well and it was posited in these materials that it was because of
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differing tech testosterone levels average testosterone levels across these groups so
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if you've really high testosterone your sex drive is a lot higher so theoretically in groups that had
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higher average testosterone you kind of just need less to get turned on you're just ready to go
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whereas if you have very low testosterone you've got to like oh well the temperature has to be just
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right in this weird turn on and the blah blah blah blah and so maybe that's why but i i don't know i don't
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do we have data on differing testosterone levels by broad ethnic group or geographical cluster or i
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don't know i didn't look into that yes there are some observed differences in average testosterone
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levels typically measured as serum total testosterone or free testosterone across broad racial or ethnic
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population groups though the patterns are nuanced often modest after adjustments like bmi obesity
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lifestyle factors and sometimes inconsistent across studies large-scale u.s data and metadata analyses
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provide the most reliable insights primarily comparing groups like non-hispanic black african ancestry
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non-hispanic white european ancestry and mexican american hispanic to a lesser extent asian groups
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blah blah blah key findings african ancestry versus white european ancestry men many studies no show no
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significant difference in testosterone after age and other adjustments so no notable difference
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mexican americans hispanic men often show the highest total testosterone in u.s studies
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that's interesting so they see the mexican american men as having the highest testosterone
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asian men tend to have lower levels compared to other groups in available data so there's that
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that's what i found too okay so black men modestly higher free testosterone than white men east asian
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groups lower but this is why this gets so interesting i'm going into this and i'm just keep having my
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assumptions overturned with things that i assume like i would have assumed black men had a higher
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testosterone than hispanics for example well you think when you consider even just the the industries in
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which you tend to see black people over perform perform like in various athletic fields and i you
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typically associate being an elite athlete with higher levels of testosterone so if a population has
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in general higher levels of testosterone you'd expect them to be the ones who sweep at the olympics
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for example right like in the it's always the runners like they tend to be from africa etc right
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basketball players but that's that's because of height
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why why why are hispanics not cleaning up in the olympics welcome well i suspect it's due to
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genetic difference i know we're not supposed to talk about this but it's not just testosterone that
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matters i guess paulo the the the person oh do you think it's the insufficient height then so it's like
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height plus testosterone equals athletic prowess i don't know we're going to go over a bunch of
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different studies here we're going to go into a lot of things what we'll come away from from today's
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episode is actually that actually makes a lot of no sorry because hispanic equals basically european
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plus indigenous central and south american groups and they tend to be on average of shorter stature
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so that makes sense the indigenous groups are not the southern europeans i know but the whole point
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is if you are hispanic there's really not that much indigenous blood in hispanic populations by the
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way it's it's it's well under 25 percent in most populations it varies it it does vary but if we're
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talking on average and i think that this is some weird rug pull that the hispanic when you see his
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hispanic he knows not just europeans it basically means catholic europeans that is what hispanic is it is
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southern europeans no it just is it is the the catholic european that is that is the core
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differentiator between them and americans right like and and the selective pressures are there too
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like northern europeans would have been more comfortable with the north american colonies which
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were colder at the time of colonization as well whereas northern sorry southern europeans might get to
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like new england and be like uh-uh this is not going to work for me they were also really really
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we've got on our episode with the the perplexing ideology of nick fontes where we point out that
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they were really hostile to catholics in the american colonies the catholics could vote in less than half
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the colonies that jews could yeah and they it were less than two percent of the population at the time
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of the revolution yeah even in maryland the catholic sanctuary state they were only around ten percent of
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the population maryland maryland oh yes in new jersey new york but this is this is actually important
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because in another episode i said from my own experience catholic girls appear to be hornier
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than protestant girls and a bunch of base camp listeners were like yeah confirmed yeah one of them
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was like i live in glasgow and if you don't know glasgow glasgow has two pretty distinct genetic
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populations one protestant one catholic and they hate each other so he'd have some understanding of
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like purebred catholic and protestant girls and he's like yeah this is very well known in
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populations that live with these two groups with distinct identities so it wasn't just me talking
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on my butt it is apparently a well-noticed thing he's so fun so apparently this has been studied and
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again not talking on my butt here andrew greenlead's 1994 analysis on sex the catholic experience
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drawing from gss data highlighted that 68 percent of catholics report having sex weekly
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versus only 56 of non-catholics 30 had purchased erotic underwear versus only 20 of non-catholics
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that's a pretty big difference 30 of catholics presumably like a religious groups had purchased naughty
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underwear versus only 20 of non-catholics 80 of devout catholic women approved of sex purely
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for pleasure which is much higher than other populations another fun finding that i keep finding
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in here and i'm not going to go through all of the the instances of this because there's
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like 20 instances of it but more religious people have sex more frequently people who attend church
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more frequently have sex more frequently and they are more satisfied in their marriages but i want
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to get into this like why is this the case does the data back it up does the data back up this idea that
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this is why because what this would if this hypothesis is correct then it would mean that catholics are
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less kinky than protestants because protestants are less horny than catholics that would be the way that
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the theory works see our episode by the way another episode that you can go into if you're interested
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in these topics is is oh god though that checks out yeah i mean with the whole hispanics having
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higher levels of testosterone theoretically then you need less to get turned on yeah so you don't need
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all the the weird stuff right ah no i mean keep in mind what are like catholic fetishes it's like
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catholic school girl like pope none again just a ton of ton of missionary sex
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when i think of like waspy fetishes i'm like oh my god like those people are freaks like they have
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like a room in the house dedicated to that nonsense that that takes a lot it takes a lot
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dungeon room or whatever and then it's like now you're going to japan oh that's a whole other level
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and we have an episode where we talk about why asians have lower sex drive potentially
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where we argue as low asian birth rates partially genetic and it was because
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like a statistically significant portion in many asian countries marriages were arranged marriages
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it was like 45 over like huge chunks of their history like a lot huge in certain regions and so
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that's you don't need to be horny to get pregnant if like that just happens naturally right if it's your job
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you're just doing your job go into the pregnancy you gotta ching ching well you actually you know
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i find this really interesting because we see this in apothecary diaries which takes place in the
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chinese court with like the concubines and everything like that and sex is treated so transactionally and
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like not as like a big like romantic thing within courtly life it was very which is really i mean you
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do see this even from like japanese literature now that i'm thinking about it it's very like
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they had like a lot of like horny posting i guess i'd call it historically where they'd write to each
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other but it like wasn't explicitly it wasn't as explicit as like european horny posting it was like
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more like poetic yeah i mean let's just compare how like louis the 14th or even king henry the 8th would
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they they wanted to actively seduce their partners you know as as kings you know they they sent them
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gifts and they they wooed them and they tried to convince them with letters and with arguments like
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they there there was i mean well there wasn't really consent involved because you don't exactly
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turn down a king and everyone's like throwing and positioning these women for the king there was
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still like this whole like tete-a-tete of like oh i must you know entrance you i must convince you
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and especially with like louis well actually with both louis the 14th and king hangry the 8th
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the the women were very hesitant from a a christian perspective to sleep with him out of wedlock and
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there was a lot of drama around that so he there was actually convincing that needed to be done but like
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they really enjoyed that chase you contrast that with the way that partner like that the knightly
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partner for an emperor in the forbidden palace would have been they would position the the consorts
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or concubines names on these like plaques i think they were like jade plaques and of course like
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all the palace eunuchs or whatever would like arrange them in a way where they thought like
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subconsciously he will pick like this lady because you know he's left-handed or right-handed and like
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this is closer to where his hand is or whatever like they try to position the little but like he's
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just like selecting a written name like not even a picture you know just like choosing the written name
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and then the woman gets you know washed and then wrapped up in basically a rug and then delivered
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burrito style into his bed really is that that's the way it worked yes that is the way it worked and
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then for like a a very set period of time they would be left alone for their intimate activities
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which i loved much much more fun again in the french court they refer to it as commerce which is
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exactly what it is it is commerce my friends but yeah way more seduction in european royal yeah no
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no people are like it was it was just like a silicon valley orgy house in in versailles i'm telling you
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it was great i i don't know i'm like sex but i i just i'm not like people who don't know the the the
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french catholic royalty was like way more debauched than henry the eighth was no no no like the whole
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like the boy lynn sisters were sort of like because they sort of got they were raised for a certain
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period of their life in the french court they were like oh that's like it was basically like
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oh they're they're trained sluts they're gonna do stuff they they have the french method i mean
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we call it like french there's all these still things that like are still of our of our culture
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that referred to french people being sexually a little i want to point out here
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period of time that kissing was with your tongue which is like the normal way that all humans kiss
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today was seen as like weird and perverted i don't know if that's the normal way that all people kiss
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i think really they start kissing yeah i don't i don't think so malcolm sorry wait in the comments
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if that's your default way of kissing and what your what your racial and ethnic background is
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but no so in in in in the imperial court it's not done so she's delivered burrito style into your bed
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and then after a very like prescribed period of time the the palace eunuchs would then like or your
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guards would then check in with you and be like as long as you mean he wasn't like okay done take
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her away like wrap her up they would like check on him be like sir sir are you okay and then they
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would take her away she she wouldn't stay all night they would take could i have people eunuchs to
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bring you into my room in a burrito burrito burrito delivery oh see that that is what you know like
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the epstein crowd should have been they were like oh let's order chipotle you know let's do it yeah
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so so continue with stats here because we're gonna do stats let's go into it japan yeah so first we're
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gonna go into because i found this interesting because i think a lot of this is like heavily biased
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right yeah like if you go out there and you do surveys and we'll get into this japanese people
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say like they're the least kinky of all populations and i'm like i know that is true it's like i think
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i think japanese women are uniquely not kinky i think they're the if i had to picture a race and
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gender that was asexual it would be the japanese woman i feel like when when they are kinky it is out
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of a career driven obligation and they are doing it as a i don't know i mean like i would love to
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hear the secret life of a kinky japanese woman but the youtube channels that i watch of japanese
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women are are literally single japanese women who never show their faces on camera and just make
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dinner and live in the tiny apartment i mean i think this is actually true across asian populations
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i've personally never slept with an asian woman and one of the reasons why is because seduction techniques
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that leaned on arousal are just completely ineffective on them they do not respond to
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arousal in the way that western women do and it might be that i need to use an entirely different
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set of techniques maybe but if you look at like maybe show up with another hot guy i mean watch
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yeah he was invented in japan so yeah they're using completely different systems which i don't think
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you're talking about i think it's really telling that like the one the one sort of sexual manga
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anime genre that like really picked up among women in japan didn't even involve the women i just i
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feel like that that kind of signals something a little bit yeah okay so let's let's continue here
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leave me out of it they're saying where i was able to get data that looked reasonable to me
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was the amount of session time on cornheb because if i look at this i can tell about how long it
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takes from beginning to try to get off in to try to get oh oh that's so clever that's a great oh
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i know i'm pretty clever aren't i you clever girl
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japan had the slowest of any population of 11 minutes and two seconds on average okay guess
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who had the fastest of any population well i mean i'm gonna guess hispanic men mexico oh my god oh my
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god i guess this is wow who knew guess who had the second fastest i'm gonna have to say african men
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chile other latin american chile no but i said i said hispanic okay yeah yeah and then in the middle
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is the united states and then other asian countries like the philippines are like in between the united
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states and japan okay yeah so there are no there are no like they don't separate out black and white
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americans like non-hispanic yeah yeah i don't have that okay but again the testosterone results were
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hispanic men black men white men asian men yeah yeah this aligns with the the castles
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testosterone theory yeah yeah which aligns with you can watch our episode where we go over why i think
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that is somebody's asking why i just think that ever if you're in a highly deontological structure
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that banned stuff like masturbation in a historic context then being hornier might lead to more kids
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in earlier elopement which catholics seem to also need because they get eloped out of potentially more
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out of like desire for each other than out of logic whereas when i see asian women who have settled
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down with guys it's typically out of logic and i think it's it's it's protestant women as well like
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like it is often out of a sense of logic they don't need this external thing because of the
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cultural frameworks that they're within this is just a hypothesis no i i associate protestant women
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with being logically seduced and then i associate like jewish women with with being this combination
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of passion and logic or like almost like loyalty tradition and logic based horniness
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other catholics on this front than they are to protestants they're way hornier than protestant
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women well i mean you're the only ones who have like a there's a religious mandate to pleasure your
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woman what other religious mandate yeah for people who don't know this like like literally jews have a
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religious mandate to ensure that their woman is sexually satisfied and so like ben shapiro when he
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like thinks that like a woman being white is like a disorder or something he's like actually not
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being a jewel he's an apostate yeah it's terrible how dare he okay so so i decided to go okay japan
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like what are they searching for in terms of their corn right and it was boring when i looked at like
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the the the porn hub sets right it was like japanese is the top then japanese wife then milf and i'm like
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this is weird why why in japan are they looking for a bunch of milf related stuff and i was like oh yeah
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the average age of the population that's why it's because it's a very very old population oh so yeah
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the young chick is is a mom yeah well no i mean it's a good conveyor for big boobs something about
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extremely large breasts in japan if you want a middle-aged woman right like if you're looking for
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a middle eight like not an actively yeah then it has to be although oh my god because you know we're
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we're like advertising on some nsfw sites i found that one of the content filters was granny this is
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not something i've come across in like you know when i look at all the nsfw subreddits granny does
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not show up like goth girl various types of like body features never granny okay we're gonna go into
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here because i want to talk about changes and not say for work content over time that's a whole
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episode man we're talking no no no i want to super canceled which is racial and ethnic differences
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and we'll get to it in another episode because i want to get in the comments of other people have
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noticed this okay okay so like i i think you're right i've never come across because if you are
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online and you're looking at like drawn corn right like hentai related popcorn popcorn right you're
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looking at this stuff and what you're going to know is if you have some group of things that
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you're into occasionally things that you're not into will come up with that group of things especially
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if it's niche because then basically you have to like carpool your way to being turned on right
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right yeah the the old woman i have never i don't think i've ever once accidentally ran into that
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neither me neither but i didn't even know it existed until yesterday literally but this is a big
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but there are two categories of things that have or three that have become really popular that did not
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used to be popular and i see this in content all the time now when i and i'm not talking about like
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90s didn't see this i didn't see this you know in the early like let's say circa 2015 okay so this
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is a long time 11 years ago yeah so so but what i mean is like the internet was still the internet
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then there was still free whatever you wanted whenever you wanted it okay yes this is forced
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feminization this is sissification of men this is still huge men transitioning into women yeah this is
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ntr is the other one that's that's cheating on the partner in a way that's like psychologically
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destructive right these things were just i do not remember them being as as prevalent as they were
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in the past and i wonder if it's something that's like if this is actually tied to the like trans
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phenomenon in our society if the popularity of this sort of porn is maybe like convergent with that or
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if it's in it triggering it because i've heard like some trans people be like they got into like
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sissy hypno porn and then became trans or something this is something that they they talk about on their
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i mean you've seen yeah no they totally do yes absolutely i think catherine d has talked about
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this really well she's covered it well if you guys want to look at it more and i never once saw this
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when i was a kid i was unaware that this was even a no totally i i don't i don't think this there was
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any of this before not really so i want to i want to write in the comments is this like actually
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something that just like came out of nowhere and is it changing our society more on that in just a
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second yeah or did it exist elsewhere and it was just seen differently maybe yeah so when i was
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looking at this boring japanese stuff i was like you know what i bet this is because i'm looking at
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pornhub um and pornhub popcorn hug yeah so i was like let's look at like what younger people would
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be using like d-list sites fanza stuff like that okay okay so in 2023 ntr held the number one spot
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among japanese users for 11 consecutive months ahead of tags like lolly which was number two and
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submissive man which was number three no right number four futonari number five yeah and if we
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keep going from here it's reverse f then hypnosis then 3d then a tokenoko what the heck is a tokenoko
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i don't know what is i want to know males with feminine gender expressions oh oh so like futonari
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but with other things no no no no this is what do you what do you call that she fit what's
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what's the word for like girly boy thing it's called like boys fem boys fem boys she what she
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man yeah yeah so this is that fem boys is what they're talking about then corruption then beast then
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tentacle you notice at least like i am i wrong that the reason that tentacle erotic material came to
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exist was because of censorship laws and so they use that narrative i have repeated this narrative
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but now that i've gotten older you doubt it that's true i think just think people are hot for
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reason if you look at american markets what you're going to see is basically across european markets
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the number one search thing is lesbians and i often mentioned and then the number two or one of the
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other really high ones is futonari and i mentioned that one of the reasons is this is for genetic reasons
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guys do not want to be turned on by seeing another guy having sex with a woman who they are interested in
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it's a very bad sign it's it's it's equivalent to death i mean if you are your genetic line
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of what your woman sleeping with someone else and you raising that kid that that is basically raising
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your your murderer it is giving your life to your murderer because they're ending your genetic line
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like if you believe yourself as something beyond just your own biological meat puppet so a lot of males
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not all males but have a incredibly strong resistance to the conception of another guy
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and that's why this form in the west but interestingly which makes sense because if you
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think about it any any guy who like on a genetic level would be super chill with that
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well their genetic line wouldn't exist very long would it so yeah but asians don't seem to
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have the same resistance to this they don't seem to have the same disgust towards it well it
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wouldn't be necessary if you had arranged marriages and and a lot of societal controls over women and
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who they were able to so women weren't sleeping around with other people actually within parts
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of the japanese court women did sort of sleep around there was something called like serial it's a
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longer phenomenon for a different episode but i don't think it was that big that it affected the
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genetics a lot of it's happening in imperial courts you're talking about like the top
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point zero one percent so then i was like okay what is it now because this was when ntr was popular
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in japan so ntr has become less popular now now it's number two do you know what's number one in
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japan right now i i couldn't i i honestly have no idea submissive men i mean this is this is the
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country from which the vegetarian man concept emerged well before a lot of other like specification or
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asexual men tropes or trends emerged so you know japan's on the forefront of everything and i decided to
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see what men were like american men were looking up on these these more perverted sites right the
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number one for american men's on these sites where all the japanese people were looking up ntr yeah
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small breasts oh because that's that's the american non-illegal way to search for oh oh oh
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oh you're so disappointed in the world again as we point out with the males you have this conundrum where
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the traits that are used to signal that something is a woman and can be impregnated are inversely
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correlated with the treats that extend to the links of the fertility window e.g wide hip ratio and larger
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breasts and so men yeah yeah well i guess like that the really nice thing for all the guys who get
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criticized for being into big titties in the end you know they're not into yeah yeah you know they're not
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epstein-y okay so that's nice you know that's i feel like that that gives you cachet these days
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you know it's super not cool to be into the young ones these days anyway to continue here oh god other
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the next most popular tag in the us within these sites specifically is futanari then monster girls
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then i don't know what words i'm allowed to say here then something then ntr then vanilla then harem like
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americans are actually pretty tame when compared right like well and ayla has found this in her
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big kink survey in the end most people are just really into very vanilla concepts and as a general
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rule of thumb the most thing that men want is just really enthusiastic female partners who want their
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magical wand inside their treasure box and they're the women want men who are super into them too
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just can't control themselves from desire around them that's it it's so simple it's it's so stupid
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so let's get into the into bdsm by essay group because yeah it seems to me like such a weird as in
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what is that w-e-i-r-d like white educated something something like very very sort of like
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white protestant-ish thing yeah let's get out the rule book and all the equipment and you're right
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so yeah by four by more than double whites this was in the kink identity sexuality study
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participate in bdsm at double the rate of the next highest participating ethnic group do you know what the
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next highest participating ethnic group was in the japanese blacks really no i don't see them in any
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like when when i see like either produced by or starring bdsm related stuff i don't really see black
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people like either african americans or just africans that is so weird about cross ethnic attractiveness
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like which ethnic groups find other ethnic groups attractive versus unattractive blacks
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are generally considered the least attractive ethnicity which is why they're not as common in
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pornography oh but you know also why it's it's a little bit of a problematic look
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oh yeah that could i think it just makes people really uncomfortable to see that and they're like
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you know i don't like the way i feel i don't feel comfortable yeah you have a white dominatrix with
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like a black sub or whatever i'd be like let's not let's not put the it's not put the the dark-skinned
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person in chains i don't know i'm not okay in their mouth or something like no no something's
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wrong like i get the reason i keep saying like the man is the sub because as a woman i'd be like i can
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sort of see that right like if it was a black woman and like a white guy like being the dom i've never
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seen that no and still i would be i would be super uncomfortable seeing that i'd be like no
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now shut it down shut it down everybody shut it down but this aligns with the earlier hypothesis
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so the most into it group being whites the next being blacks and the least surprising being hispanics
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now there is one group that's below hispanics at an absurdly low number which is asian
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that's so wild i don't know because there there's a huge hentai genre for no there really isn't
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bondage for well what what is shibari i guess what shibari is just going to be different
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there's not even an english word for that we have to use a japanese one
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explain that explain what you're talking about to people i'm talking about elaborate tying up of
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people which isn't i mean it is clearly a form of bondage people are being bound that it's like it's
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pretty and you can like suspend people and you have to do all these elaborate classes because it
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can be very dangerous you could come off someone i've never seen an asian who was into that i have
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seen a lot but it's called shibari it's and it's i know it is we we appropriated it and made it like
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a western thing but i have never seen a nation that was into it nor have i ever seen it in hentai
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yeah but you you also not had you've not had an asian girlfriend so what would you know
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i don't know that that very much confuses me i'm very because also like i remember when i was a
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teenager in japan staying at this really specific hotel in osako there was this one bridge where all
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of the local sex workers would like slap on their little post-it notes like they would advertise their
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themselves and their phone numbers on these little cards but they would be like post-its you could just
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stick them to like a phone booth or stick them to like a bridge and i would just like prance along
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the street just collecting all of them you know like like elf collecting gum off of things and chewing
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it just so excited and a bunch of them showed ropey things so i don't know that i'm confused you know what
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i bet asians are just lying in this survey that's they're just liars yeah and to me people might say
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things like liar tell us what you know you goddamn liar also that was like 10 years ago though so
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things things change to your point right i mean i think that demographically japan has changed a lot
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and that might have just been for like a group of of men that are now also that's a very that was those
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were offline maybe there's a difference between the people who i think like an older generation
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is going to hire sex workers both because they have more wealth and because they grew up in an
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age where you couldn't get okay i'm gonna drop a hypothesis here it just came together in my head
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for me okay okay so it is not necessarily that japanese wouldn't be more turned on by this stuff
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than vanilla sex given their lower arousal states however japanese people when they're looking for
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things that arouse them are more likely to turn to online content over something they can do as a
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partner and white people are more likely to turn to something they can do as a partner as opposed to
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online stuff now now they're still more likely to turn to online stuff i'm just talking about
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disproportionately when contrasted with japanese people oh yeah so for japanese people who were
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types of things that could be stimulated by bdsm play um these types of things were better
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stimulated for them by something more extreme whether it's like goro this is like extreme gore related
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stuff like extreme like this person's like a slave or a captive scenarios or like extreme like just
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more extreme all the monster girl stuff too girl stuff stuff that we wouldn't even consider bdsm
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because it is so extreme you know i bet that vor also had its origins in in japan i bet it would
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like maybe but that's so extreme that you wouldn't consider it normal content right consider it like
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weird other content like not not the normal stuff that you would you immediately turn to if you were
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like what turns people on right whereas in the america specifically because people still were having
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relationships and stuff like that and i think still wanted to do this stuff with a partner they
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conceptualized bdsm as being what what kink is as opposed to like just purely fictional scenarios which
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happened more in japan so it's not due to a lack of desire for this it's due to a lack of desire of
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doing this with a partner could be yeah i don't know tell me more okay now let's let's go to different
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what things if we're not doing these extreme sites are coming up as like the main types of production
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of of corn was in each reason so within the west ai said that the west disproportionately is big into bsm
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power exchange and fetish play so eg stuff that real people are doing whereas in east asia it was
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shibiri which you said hentai and aesthetic bondage so like interesting but like that makes sense right
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like it's it's it's the conceptual stuff more within latin america group dynamics and romantic kink
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and it produces latin america produces very little corn very little sexual content altogether which
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again would align was this thesis that we have here uh and then and then black countries also produce
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very little and when they do it's often racialized fetishes which i found very interesting oh no
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don't do that guys don't do it a lot of this though you got to really you know take it with a grain of
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salt so an example of what i mean by this is when i was trying to get an understanding of like how
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different groups said that they liked participating in in stuff it was like well keep in mind that black
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men are are more interested in pleasing women than white men and i was like that doesn't sound like what
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i've heard from people that black men spend a longer time trying to please women and then i was like
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like what journal posted this journal of black psychology i was like okay okay that makes sense
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but i would be interested if that is trying people can who've had more experience with with both
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groups can let us know if my intuition is wrong here it's just not what i've heard on the street
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i feel like the general my finger on the pulse of discourse and what i've seen across everything
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that i've kind of just ingested over the past 10 years is that black men are seen as satisfying women
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more sexually that's like what i've yeah it's just my jet i think it's like the reputation so i mean
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normally stereotypes exist for a reason right so let's go via country for the most common search
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terms okay on sites for like yeah we can get better maybe maybe we'll find some pattern here okay okay
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okay united states the most viewed category is lesbian after lesbian it's latina which is so sad
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given that lesbians are fake news there's like this just this concept that people wish was real
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then milf i think milf is a sign of an aging society because i did not think that's a really
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good point growing up absolutely um then asian then hentai no white's not on here yet then ebony
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then that wait white's not on here at all i guess it's just assumed that if you're just looking up
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yeah it's just like sort of default they're gonna be and that's that's certainly what i've seen
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yeah white women mexico milf number one aging society then lesbian
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um philippines this i thought interesting panay filipino women number one right
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they're looking for like their own group then hit ties in milf just milf across the board here
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brazil starts with femboy oh no transgender is number one in brazil then femboy is number two
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i feel like it checks out brazil is fun you know they're just going for it well that's not a good sign
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for a society no i mean in terms of their birth race don't look good but everyone's going out okay
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malcolm are we gonna go out having fun or are we not okay i've got a place of the rome clip here about
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how femboys destroyed rome the fall of rome joe rogan had this to say on his podcast fascinating
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that the end of empires they get really concerned with gender and hermaphrodites the roman femboy
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fully grown and willing to take on the role of a common roman woman even the emperor himself
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donned girly outfits mascara and held many chamber parties the roman senate began having debates to
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determine if quote being with a femboy was a totally gay thing after all to continue here germany
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lesbian number one then milf france latina okay what's going on there interesting anyway yeah
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basically across western countries lesbian is number one united kingdom lesbian number one australia
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lesbian lesbian lesbian number one russia is transgenderism than femboy russia russia that is not
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russia femboy russia a guest behind that steely russian man stereotype is a sensitive
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feminine femboy lover fem femboy lover who just wants to be let out and just let me out of the snow
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people okay so simone so there were a bunch of other studies but i didn't find them interesting
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so i'm not going to bore our fans with them but thoughts simone i am surprised by hispanic men but
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also that makes sense in a culture that has been subject to the evolutionary bottlenecks for hundreds
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of years by catholicism which really leverages it like harnesses horniness in order to survive
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um yeah and like sort of leverages and shapes it as though it's some kind of like energy that it's
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like and i feel like that that might have something to do with it and so that that surprised me
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yeah that's that's very interesting i guess some stereotypes make sense you know like in terms
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of like well these are the countries that you go to and you have to worry about being hit on and
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cat called more that kind of checks out right you know yeah so that yeah i'm still not convinced that
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like they're really weird esoteric kinks out there you know like squids tentacles and because it doesn't
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have to be squids what am i saying i'm not being inclusive enough whatever i i think that's more cultural
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no i mean maybe it is a product of of being i don't i just don't understand why they're necessarily
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a product of lower levels of of turn on i don't know i think it's a hypothesis i'm like here's here's
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here's a counter theory wait let me present my counter theory why if you weren't a perv would you
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figure out that you were into tentacles right like because you're just thinking of anything to feel
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something like and one day you're at the market do it for me and you're like oh this is it that's
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my finally i feel no i mean you look at like hentai or something like that right like japanese people
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go really hard with trying to induce emotional states and people within their like corn right like
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they're like we need to go all the way like you have to you have to read through like 15 pages of
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plot development to get to some kind of everyone's wearing clothes nothing's you know yeah you're
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right you're right i do not have the attention span for it i've never been able to like go through even
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just out of curiosity manga based or like hentai because i'm just i'm like man get to the point
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i don't have time for this okay so other other i'm looking for some like white protestant ones that
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are like known the the famous one is the white protestant women and effing dogs like that's a
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white protestant woman thing oh it's such a it's such a thing it's such a thing it's like an internet
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joke is yeah like with any sort of online no-no material your default female actress or or female
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participant is going to be white no i understand but this is like a joke in manosphere circles i don't know
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if it's a real phenomenon but it is a manosphere joke is that like the type of woman who you but
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also like when it comes to dudes having deep deep relationships with animals it's also it's like
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normal in colombia donkey shows are a mexican thing like bestiality and dudes is a latin american thing
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i guess you're pretty right we we talked about what are they called tijuana something
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tijuana donkey now we don't know if those are real but what we do know is real a hundred percent is
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real is that in some colombian towns it was just completely normal did was that young man having
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relations with that donkey they say yes that's right what did he say no no no trouble at all normal
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so they say that basically that's the first wife the first lover that they have oh that like when
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when you wanted to to prepare for your first night in bed with your wife you would first
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go have a go at the donkey and it's still normal today in i would be so angry as a woman to know
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that he'd stuck it in a donkey before like that's not did you clean it by the way sheep i think is what
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they use well then how we're going to lanolin have you touched like a sheep do you know how greasy
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sheep are i don't want to think about it okay simone i'm not into it it's not my it's not my thing either
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i'm not into i'm just what's it sorry i'm trying to think of other ones that like
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vampires white people are into vampires but latinas are into vampires too for what i've
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seen everyone's into vampires asians i have not seen asians into vampires yeah well and in twilight
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it's not like furries white furries furries white catholics furries have not taken off in in east
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asia even though they have some of the best furry media out there beast stars i think it's the best furry
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media ever made well and japan is the country of mascots there's like a mascot for the airport
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there's a mascot for your bathroom those are they're not big into furries there and in latin
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america furries are not as big despite all other parts of nerd culture being much larger see our
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episode on why are latin americans such a bunch of nerds so yeah and it's not just latin americans
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catholics more broadly like manga like the number one market in the world yeah but as you discussed
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in that episode a lot of that had to do with like licensing fees and the cost of distributing
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that doesn't explain why manga is so popular in france because it's good okay shut up catholics
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have better taste in nerd culture i'm just gonna in clothing too they win they win they do they have
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better taste in nerd culture i'm just gonna be honest that the pope did an anime girl like come on
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yeah no but also like the pope has the best religious garments so dude true they got style
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maybe that's where the femboy stuff is coming from who knows i don't know that was interesting though and
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you know who you are we we love you thank you for sending us that interesting thought to start our
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day our audience is great and we love everyone i have from this that i want to pull on i want to
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pull on this thread i'm gonna need some comments to pull on this thread okay
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did like sissification stuff yeah where did that when did it come did this actually like come because
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when i go to google trends it looks like the trend line has only been going down since google
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trends started recording this in 2004 but maybe people just stopped searching it on google because
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they that's not the way people they're embarrassed yeah we all have better methods now everybody knows
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that's not a good way to find stuff there have been enough subpoenas we don't need that but is it
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actually that much more common than it used to be is it actually true it feels new to both of us yeah
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it's not just you malcolm i feel that way too but also i i didn't look into it and or even know about
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it until very recently so it could just be one of those those once you see it you see it everywhere
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things for us personally as just like people who discover this so i don't know anyway i don't yeah so
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i want to get that because if it's not if this is actually a new phenomenon i want to chart it against
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the the emergence of the trans movement i think we might find something interesting there we'll
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check it out yeah all right well i love you love you too you want hawaiian buns with the mango curry
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it wasn't a mango curry it was a pinang curry oh it was there's mango in it but there's some
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yeah i mean if you're doing it with with buns just like toast up some buns and put it on the side and
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i'll put it on top and and okay we'll see or i can put it over rice too if you prefer
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it'll be better over rice okay i love you bye i love you bye