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- February 24, 2026
Kink Across Ethnic Groups (The Sordid Statistics)
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8,459
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4
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43
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hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be discussing a
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concept a fan of ours brought up i heard it and i was like hey that's interesting i want to dig
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into that see what the data says so they were like when they were younger and they were into
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like the science of racial differences and stuff like this they had remembered seeing a hypothesis
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and the hypothesis went like this if you take ethnic groups and you sort them by how horny they
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get naturally right like like how horny is this group how horny this girl how susceptible are they
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it typically goes asians at the bottom then whites then hispanics then africans and he said and this
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is potentially why you see higher levels of weird kinks and fetish content within
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populations like within the most being within asian populations right because this is where
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hentai and all of that weirdness comes from and you know even tentacle porn going back to like you know
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medieval period and stuff like the fisherman's wife and then you see you know
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more but not as much in white populations then you see less in hispanic populations and then you see
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very little in black populations well and it was posited in these materials that it was because of
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differing tech testosterone levels average testosterone levels across these groups so
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if you've really high testosterone your sex drive is a lot higher so theoretically in groups that had
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higher average testosterone you kind of just need less to get turned on you're just ready to go
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whereas if you have very low testosterone you've got to like oh well the temperature has to be just
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right in this weird turn on and the blah blah blah blah and so maybe that's why but i i don't know i don't
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do we have data on differing testosterone levels by broad ethnic group or geographical cluster or i
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don't know i didn't look into that yes there are some observed differences in average testosterone
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levels typically measured as serum total testosterone or free testosterone across broad racial or ethnic
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population groups though the patterns are nuanced often modest after adjustments like bmi obesity
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lifestyle factors and sometimes inconsistent across studies large-scale u.s data and metadata analyses
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provide the most reliable insights primarily comparing groups like non-hispanic black african ancestry
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non-hispanic white european ancestry and mexican american hispanic to a lesser extent asian groups
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blah blah blah key findings african ancestry versus white european ancestry men many studies no show no
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significant difference in testosterone after age and other adjustments so no notable difference
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mexican americans hispanic men often show the highest total testosterone in u.s studies
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that's interesting so they see the mexican american men as having the highest testosterone
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asian men tend to have lower levels compared to other groups in available data so there's that
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that's what i found too okay so black men modestly higher free testosterone than white men east asian
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groups lower but this is why this gets so interesting i'm going into this and i'm just keep having my
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assumptions overturned with things that i assume like i would have assumed black men had a higher
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testosterone than hispanics for example well you think when you consider even just the the industries in
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which you tend to see black people over perform perform like in various athletic fields and i you
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typically associate being an elite athlete with higher levels of testosterone so if a population has
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in general higher levels of testosterone you'd expect them to be the ones who sweep at the olympics
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for example right like in the it's always the runners like they tend to be from africa etc right
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basketball players but that's that's because of height
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why why why are hispanics not cleaning up in the olympics welcome well i suspect it's due to
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genetic difference i know we're not supposed to talk about this but it's not just testosterone that
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matters i guess paulo the the the person oh do you think it's the insufficient height then so it's like
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height plus testosterone equals athletic prowess i don't know we're going to go over a bunch of
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different studies here we're going to go into a lot of things what we'll come away from from today's
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episode is actually that actually makes a lot of no sorry because hispanic equals basically european
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plus indigenous central and south american groups and they tend to be on average of shorter stature
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so that makes sense the indigenous groups are not the southern europeans i know but the whole point
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is if you are hispanic there's really not that much indigenous blood in hispanic populations by the
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way it's it's it's well under 25 percent in most populations it varies it it does vary but if we're
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talking on average and i think that this is some weird rug pull that the hispanic when you see his
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hispanic he knows not just europeans it basically means catholic europeans that is what hispanic is it is
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southern europeans no it just is it is the the catholic european that is that is the core
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differentiator between them and americans right like and and the selective pressures are there too
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like northern europeans would have been more comfortable with the north american colonies which
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were colder at the time of colonization as well whereas northern sorry southern europeans might get to
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like new england and be like uh-uh this is not going to work for me they were also really really
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we've got on our episode with the the perplexing ideology of nick fontes where we point out that
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they were really hostile to catholics in the american colonies the catholics could vote in less than half
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the colonies that jews could yeah and they it were less than two percent of the population at the time
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of the revolution yeah even in maryland the catholic sanctuary state they were only around ten percent of
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the population maryland maryland oh yes in new jersey new york but this is this is actually important
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because in another episode i said from my own experience catholic girls appear to be hornier
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than protestant girls and a bunch of base camp listeners were like yeah confirmed yeah one of them
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was like i live in glasgow and if you don't know glasgow glasgow has two pretty distinct genetic
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populations one protestant one catholic and they hate each other so he'd have some understanding of
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like purebred catholic and protestant girls and he's like yeah this is very well known in
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populations that live with these two groups with distinct identities so it wasn't just me talking
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on my butt it is apparently a well-noticed thing he's so fun so apparently this has been studied and
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again not talking on my butt here andrew greenlead's 1994 analysis on sex the catholic experience
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drawing from gss data highlighted that 68 percent of catholics report having sex weekly
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versus only 56 of non-catholics 30 had purchased erotic underwear versus only 20 of non-catholics
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that's a pretty big difference 30 of catholics presumably like a religious groups had purchased naughty
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underwear versus only 20 of non-catholics 80 of devout catholic women approved of sex purely
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for pleasure which is much higher than other populations another fun finding that i keep finding
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in here and i'm not going to go through all of the the instances of this because there's
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like 20 instances of it but more religious people have sex more frequently people who attend church
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more frequently have sex more frequently and they are more satisfied in their marriages but i want
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to get into this like why is this the case does the data back it up does the data back up this idea that
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this is why because what this would if this hypothesis is correct then it would mean that catholics are
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less kinky than protestants because protestants are less horny than catholics that would be the way that
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the theory works see our episode by the way another episode that you can go into if you're interested
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in these topics is is oh god though that checks out yeah i mean with the whole hispanics having
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higher levels of testosterone theoretically then you need less to get turned on yeah so you don't need
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all the the weird stuff right ah no i mean keep in mind what are like catholic fetishes it's like
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catholic school girl like pope none again just a ton of ton of missionary sex
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when i think of like waspy fetishes i'm like oh my god like those people are freaks like they have
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like a room in the house dedicated to that nonsense that that takes a lot it takes a lot
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dungeon room or whatever and then it's like now you're going to japan oh that's a whole other level
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and we have an episode where we talk about why asians have lower sex drive potentially
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where we argue as low asian birth rates partially genetic and it was because
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like a statistically significant portion in many asian countries marriages were arranged marriages
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it was like 45 over like huge chunks of their history like a lot huge in certain regions and so
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that's you don't need to be horny to get pregnant if like that just happens naturally right if it's your job
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you're just doing your job go into the pregnancy you gotta ching ching well you actually you know
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i find this really interesting because we see this in apothecary diaries which takes place in the
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chinese court with like the concubines and everything like that and sex is treated so transactionally and
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like not as like a big like romantic thing within courtly life it was very which is really i mean you
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do see this even from like japanese literature now that i'm thinking about it it's very like
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they had like a lot of like horny posting i guess i'd call it historically where they'd write to each
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other but it like wasn't explicitly it wasn't as explicit as like european horny posting it was like
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more like poetic yeah i mean let's just compare how like louis the 14th or even king henry the 8th would
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they they wanted to actively seduce their partners you know as as kings you know they they sent them
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gifts and they they wooed them and they tried to convince them with letters and with arguments like
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they there there was i mean well there wasn't really consent involved because you don't exactly
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turn down a king and everyone's like throwing and positioning these women for the king there was
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still like this whole like tete-a-tete of like oh i must you know entrance you i must convince you
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and especially with like louis well actually with both louis the 14th and king hangry the 8th
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the the women were very hesitant from a a christian perspective to sleep with him out of wedlock and
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there was a lot of drama around that so he there was actually convincing that needed to be done but like
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they really enjoyed that chase you contrast that with the way that partner like that the knightly
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partner for an emperor in the forbidden palace would have been they would position the the consorts
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or concubines names on these like plaques i think they were like jade plaques and of course like
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all the palace eunuchs or whatever would like arrange them in a way where they thought like
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subconsciously he will pick like this lady because you know he's left-handed or right-handed and like
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this is closer to where his hand is or whatever like they try to position the little but like he's
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just like selecting a written name like not even a picture you know just like choosing the written name
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and then the woman gets you know washed and then wrapped up in basically a rug and then delivered
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burrito style into his bed really is that that's the way it worked yes that is the way it worked and
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then for like a a very set period of time they would be left alone for their intimate activities
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which i loved much much more fun again in the french court they refer to it as commerce which is
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exactly what it is it is commerce my friends but yeah way more seduction in european royal yeah no
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no people are like it was it was just like a silicon valley orgy house in in versailles i'm telling you
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it was great i i don't know i'm like sex but i i just i'm not like people who don't know the the the
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french catholic royalty was like way more debauched than henry the eighth was no no no like the whole
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like the boy lynn sisters were sort of like because they sort of got they were raised for a certain
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period of their life in the french court they were like oh that's like it was basically like
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oh they're they're trained sluts they're gonna do stuff they they have the french method i mean
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we call it like french there's all these still things that like are still of our of our culture
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that referred to french people being sexually a little i want to point out here
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period of time that kissing was with your tongue which is like the normal way that all humans kiss
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today was seen as like weird and perverted i don't know if that's the normal way that all people kiss
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i think really they start kissing yeah i don't i don't think so malcolm sorry wait in the comments
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if that's your default way of kissing and what your what your racial and ethnic background is
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but no so in in in in the imperial court it's not done so she's delivered burrito style into your bed
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and then after a very like prescribed period of time the the palace eunuchs would then like or your
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guards would then check in with you and be like as long as you mean he wasn't like okay done take
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her away like wrap her up they would like check on him be like sir sir are you okay and then they
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would take her away she she wouldn't stay all night they would take could i have people eunuchs to
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bring you into my room in a burrito burrito burrito delivery oh see that that is what you know like
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the epstein crowd should have been they were like oh let's order chipotle you know let's do it yeah
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so so continue with stats here because we're gonna do stats let's go into it japan yeah so first we're
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gonna go into because i found this interesting because i think a lot of this is like heavily biased
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right yeah like if you go out there and you do surveys and we'll get into this japanese people
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say like they're the least kinky of all populations and i'm like i know that is true it's like i think
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i think japanese women are uniquely not kinky i think they're the if i had to picture a race and
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gender that was asexual it would be the japanese woman i feel like when when they are kinky it is out
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of a career driven obligation and they are doing it as a i don't know i mean like i would love to
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hear the secret life of a kinky japanese woman but the youtube channels that i watch of japanese
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women are are literally single japanese women who never show their faces on camera and just make
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dinner and live in the tiny apartment i mean i think this is actually true across asian populations
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i've personally never slept with an asian woman and one of the reasons why is because seduction techniques
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that leaned on arousal are just completely ineffective on them they do not respond to
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arousal in the way that western women do and it might be that i need to use an entirely different
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set of techniques maybe but if you look at like maybe show up with another hot guy i mean watch
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yeah he was invented in japan so yeah they're using completely different systems which i don't think
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you're talking about i think it's really telling that like the one the one sort of sexual manga
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anime genre that like really picked up among women in japan didn't even involve the women i just i
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feel like that that kind of signals something a little bit yeah okay so let's let's continue here
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leave me out of it they're saying where i was able to get data that looked reasonable to me
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was the amount of session time on cornheb because if i look at this i can tell about how long it
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takes from beginning to try to get off in to try to get oh oh that's so clever that's a great oh
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i know i'm pretty clever aren't i you clever girl
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japan had the slowest of any population of 11 minutes and two seconds on average okay guess
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who had the fastest of any population well i mean i'm gonna guess hispanic men mexico oh my god oh my
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god i guess this is wow who knew guess who had the second fastest i'm gonna have to say african men
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chile other latin american chile no but i said i said hispanic okay yeah yeah and then in the middle
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is the united states and then other asian countries like the philippines are like in between the united
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states and japan okay yeah so there are no there are no like they don't separate out black and white
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americans like non-hispanic yeah yeah i don't have that okay but again the testosterone results were
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hispanic men black men white men asian men yeah yeah this aligns with the the castles
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testosterone theory yeah yeah which aligns with you can watch our episode where we go over why i think
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that is somebody's asking why i just think that ever if you're in a highly deontological structure
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that banned stuff like masturbation in a historic context then being hornier might lead to more kids
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in earlier elopement which catholics seem to also need because they get eloped out of potentially more
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out of like desire for each other than out of logic whereas when i see asian women who have settled
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down with guys it's typically out of logic and i think it's it's it's protestant women as well like
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like it is often out of a sense of logic they don't need this external thing because of the
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cultural frameworks that they're within this is just a hypothesis no i i associate protestant women
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with being logically seduced and then i associate like jewish women with with being this combination
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of passion and logic or like almost like loyalty tradition and logic based horniness
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other catholics on this front than they are to protestants they're way hornier than protestant
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women well i mean you're the only ones who have like a there's a religious mandate to pleasure your
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woman what other religious mandate yeah for people who don't know this like like literally jews have a
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religious mandate to ensure that their woman is sexually satisfied and so like ben shapiro when he
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like thinks that like a woman being white is like a disorder or something he's like actually not
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being a jewel he's an apostate yeah it's terrible how dare he okay so so i decided to go okay japan
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like what are they searching for in terms of their corn right and it was boring when i looked at like
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the the the porn hub sets right it was like japanese is the top then japanese wife then milf and i'm like
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this is weird why why in japan are they looking for a bunch of milf related stuff and i was like oh yeah
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the average age of the population that's why it's because it's a very very old population oh so yeah
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the young chick is is a mom yeah well no i mean it's a good conveyor for big boobs something about
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extremely large breasts in japan if you want a middle-aged woman right like if you're looking for
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a middle eight like not an actively yeah then it has to be although oh my god because you know we're
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we're like advertising on some nsfw sites i found that one of the content filters was granny this is
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not something i've come across in like you know when i look at all the nsfw subreddits granny does
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not show up like goth girl various types of like body features never granny okay we're gonna go into
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here because i want to talk about changes and not say for work content over time that's a whole
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episode man we're talking no no no i want to super canceled which is racial and ethnic differences
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and we'll get to it in another episode because i want to get in the comments of other people have
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noticed this okay okay so like i i think you're right i've never come across because if you are
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online and you're looking at like drawn corn right like hentai related popcorn popcorn right you're
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looking at this stuff and what you're going to know is if you have some group of things that
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you're into occasionally things that you're not into will come up with that group of things especially
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if it's niche because then basically you have to like carpool your way to being turned on right
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right yeah the the old woman i have never i don't think i've ever once accidentally ran into that
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neither me neither but i didn't even know it existed until yesterday literally but this is a big
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but there are two categories of things that have or three that have become really popular that did not
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used to be popular and i see this in content all the time now when i and i'm not talking about like
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90s didn't see this i didn't see this you know in the early like let's say circa 2015 okay so this
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is a long time 11 years ago yeah so so but what i mean is like the internet was still the internet
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then there was still free whatever you wanted whenever you wanted it okay yes this is forced
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feminization this is sissification of men this is still huge men transitioning into women yeah this is
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ntr is the other one that's that's cheating on the partner in a way that's like psychologically
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destructive right these things were just i do not remember them being as as prevalent as they were
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in the past and i wonder if it's something that's like if this is actually tied to the like trans
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phenomenon in our society if the popularity of this sort of porn is maybe like convergent with that or
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if it's in it triggering it because i've heard like some trans people be like they got into like
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sissy hypno porn and then became trans or something this is something that they they talk about on their
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i mean you've seen yeah no they totally do yes absolutely i think catherine d has talked about
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this really well she's covered it well if you guys want to look at it more and i never once saw this
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when i was a kid i was unaware that this was even a no totally i i don't i don't think this there was
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any of this before not really so i want to i want to write in the comments is this like actually
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something that just like came out of nowhere and is it changing our society more on that in just a
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second yeah or did it exist elsewhere and it was just seen differently maybe yeah so when i was
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looking at this boring japanese stuff i was like you know what i bet this is because i'm looking at
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pornhub um and pornhub popcorn hug yeah so i was like let's look at like what younger people would
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be using like d-list sites fanza stuff like that okay okay so in 2023 ntr held the number one spot
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among japanese users for 11 consecutive months ahead of tags like lolly which was number two and
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submissive man which was number three no right number four futonari number five yeah and if we
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keep going from here it's reverse f then hypnosis then 3d then a tokenoko what the heck is a tokenoko
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i don't know what is i want to know males with feminine gender expressions oh oh so like futonari
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but with other things no no no no this is what do you what do you call that she fit what's
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what's the word for like girly boy thing it's called like boys fem boys fem boys she what she
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man yeah yeah so this is that fem boys is what they're talking about then corruption then beast then
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tentacle you notice at least like i am i wrong that the reason that tentacle erotic material came to
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exist was because of censorship laws and so they use that narrative i have repeated this narrative
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but now that i've gotten older you doubt it that's true i think just think people are hot for
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reason if you look at american markets what you're going to see is basically across european markets
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the number one search thing is lesbians and i often mentioned and then the number two or one of the
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other really high ones is futonari and i mentioned that one of the reasons is this is for genetic reasons
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guys do not want to be turned on by seeing another guy having sex with a woman who they are interested in
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it's a very bad sign it's it's it's equivalent to death i mean if you are your genetic line
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of what your woman sleeping with someone else and you raising that kid that that is basically raising
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your your murderer it is giving your life to your murderer because they're ending your genetic line
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like if you believe yourself as something beyond just your own biological meat puppet so a lot of males
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not all males but have a incredibly strong resistance to the conception of another guy
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and that's why this form in the west but interestingly which makes sense because if you
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think about it any any guy who like on a genetic level would be super chill with that
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well their genetic line wouldn't exist very long would it so yeah but asians don't seem to
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have the same resistance to this they don't seem to have the same disgust towards it well it
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wouldn't be necessary if you had arranged marriages and and a lot of societal controls over women and
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who they were able to so women weren't sleeping around with other people actually within parts
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of the japanese court women did sort of sleep around there was something called like serial it's a
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longer phenomenon for a different episode but i don't think it was that big that it affected the
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genetics a lot of it's happening in imperial courts you're talking about like the top
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point zero one percent so then i was like okay what is it now because this was when ntr was popular
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in japan so ntr has become less popular now now it's number two do you know what's number one in
00:25:15.760
japan right now i i couldn't i i honestly have no idea submissive men i mean this is this is the
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country from which the vegetarian man concept emerged well before a lot of other like specification or
00:25:31.360
asexual men tropes or trends emerged so you know japan's on the forefront of everything and i decided to
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see what men were like american men were looking up on these these more perverted sites right the
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number one for american men's on these sites where all the japanese people were looking up ntr yeah
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small breasts oh because that's that's the american non-illegal way to search for oh oh oh
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oh you're so disappointed in the world again as we point out with the males you have this conundrum where
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the traits that are used to signal that something is a woman and can be impregnated are inversely
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correlated with the treats that extend to the links of the fertility window e.g wide hip ratio and larger
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breasts and so men yeah yeah well i guess like that the really nice thing for all the guys who get
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criticized for being into big titties in the end you know they're not into yeah yeah you know they're not
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epstein-y okay so that's nice you know that's i feel like that that gives you cachet these days
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you know it's super not cool to be into the young ones these days anyway to continue here oh god other
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the next most popular tag in the us within these sites specifically is futanari then monster girls
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then i don't know what words i'm allowed to say here then something then ntr then vanilla then harem like
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americans are actually pretty tame when compared right like well and ayla has found this in her
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big kink survey in the end most people are just really into very vanilla concepts and as a general
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rule of thumb the most thing that men want is just really enthusiastic female partners who want their
00:27:21.840
magical wand inside their treasure box and they're the women want men who are super into them too
00:27:31.120
just can't control themselves from desire around them that's it it's so simple it's it's so stupid
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so let's get into the into bdsm by essay group because yeah it seems to me like such a weird as in
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what is that w-e-i-r-d like white educated something something like very very sort of like
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white protestant-ish thing yeah let's get out the rule book and all the equipment and you're right
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so yeah by four by more than double whites this was in the kink identity sexuality study
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participate in bdsm at double the rate of the next highest participating ethnic group do you know what the
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next highest participating ethnic group was in the japanese blacks really no i don't see them in any
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like when when i see like either produced by or starring bdsm related stuff i don't really see black
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people like either african americans or just africans that is so weird about cross ethnic attractiveness
00:28:43.680
like which ethnic groups find other ethnic groups attractive versus unattractive blacks
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are generally considered the least attractive ethnicity which is why they're not as common in
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pornography oh but you know also why it's it's a little bit of a problematic look
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oh yeah that could i think it just makes people really uncomfortable to see that and they're like
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you know i don't like the way i feel i don't feel comfortable yeah you have a white dominatrix with
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like a black sub or whatever i'd be like let's not let's not put the it's not put the the dark-skinned
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person in chains i don't know i'm not okay in their mouth or something like no no something's
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wrong like i get the reason i keep saying like the man is the sub because as a woman i'd be like i can
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sort of see that right like if it was a black woman and like a white guy like being the dom i've never
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seen that no and still i would be i would be super uncomfortable seeing that i'd be like no
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now shut it down shut it down everybody shut it down but this aligns with the earlier hypothesis
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so the most into it group being whites the next being blacks and the least surprising being hispanics
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now there is one group that's below hispanics at an absurdly low number which is asian
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that's so wild i don't know because there there's a huge hentai genre for no there really isn't
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bondage for well what what is shibari i guess what shibari is just going to be different
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there's not even an english word for that we have to use a japanese one
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explain that explain what you're talking about to people i'm talking about elaborate tying up of
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people which isn't i mean it is clearly a form of bondage people are being bound that it's like it's
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pretty and you can like suspend people and you have to do all these elaborate classes because it
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can be very dangerous you could come off someone i've never seen an asian who was into that i have
00:30:30.960
seen a lot but it's called shibari it's and it's i know it is we we appropriated it and made it like
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a western thing but i have never seen a nation that was into it nor have i ever seen it in hentai
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yeah but you you also not had you've not had an asian girlfriend so what would you know
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i don't know that that very much confuses me i'm very because also like i remember when i was a
00:30:55.680
teenager in japan staying at this really specific hotel in osako there was this one bridge where all
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of the local sex workers would like slap on their little post-it notes like they would advertise their
00:31:08.000
themselves and their phone numbers on these little cards but they would be like post-its you could just
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stick them to like a phone booth or stick them to like a bridge and i would just like prance along
00:31:18.480
the street just collecting all of them you know like like elf collecting gum off of things and chewing
00:31:24.320
it just so excited and a bunch of them showed ropey things so i don't know that i'm confused you know what
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i bet asians are just lying in this survey that's they're just liars yeah and to me people might say
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things like liar tell us what you know you goddamn liar also that was like 10 years ago though so
00:31:53.360
things things change to your point right i mean i think that demographically japan has changed a lot
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and that might have just been for like a group of of men that are now also that's a very that was those
00:32:05.600
were offline maybe there's a difference between the people who i think like an older generation
00:32:12.000
is going to hire sex workers both because they have more wealth and because they grew up in an
00:32:16.960
age where you couldn't get okay i'm gonna drop a hypothesis here it just came together in my head
00:32:22.000
for me okay okay so it is not necessarily that japanese wouldn't be more turned on by this stuff
00:32:29.440
than vanilla sex given their lower arousal states however japanese people when they're looking for
00:32:35.920
things that arouse them are more likely to turn to online content over something they can do as a
00:32:43.200
partner and white people are more likely to turn to something they can do as a partner as opposed to
00:32:49.520
online stuff now now they're still more likely to turn to online stuff i'm just talking about
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disproportionately when contrasted with japanese people oh yeah so for japanese people who were
00:32:59.440
types of things that could be stimulated by bdsm play um these types of things were better
00:33:06.960
stimulated for them by something more extreme whether it's like goro this is like extreme gore related
00:33:15.120
stuff like extreme like this person's like a slave or a captive scenarios or like extreme like just
00:33:24.720
more extreme all the monster girl stuff too girl stuff stuff that we wouldn't even consider bdsm
00:33:31.040
because it is so extreme you know i bet that vor also had its origins in in japan i bet it would
00:33:36.880
like maybe but that's so extreme that you wouldn't consider it normal content right consider it like
00:33:44.880
weird other content like not not the normal stuff that you would you immediately turn to if you were
00:33:50.720
like what turns people on right whereas in the america specifically because people still were having
00:33:59.040
relationships and stuff like that and i think still wanted to do this stuff with a partner they
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conceptualized bdsm as being what what kink is as opposed to like just purely fictional scenarios which
00:34:11.840
happened more in japan so it's not due to a lack of desire for this it's due to a lack of desire of
00:34:18.000
doing this with a partner could be yeah i don't know tell me more okay now let's let's go to different
00:34:27.360
what things if we're not doing these extreme sites are coming up as like the main types of production
00:34:33.840
of of corn was in each reason so within the west ai said that the west disproportionately is big into bsm
00:34:44.400
power exchange and fetish play so eg stuff that real people are doing whereas in east asia it was
00:34:50.320
shibiri which you said hentai and aesthetic bondage so like interesting but like that makes sense right
00:34:56.240
like it's it's it's the conceptual stuff more within latin america group dynamics and romantic kink
00:35:03.760
and it produces latin america produces very little corn very little sexual content altogether which
00:35:09.760
again would align was this thesis that we have here uh and then and then black countries also produce
00:35:15.200
very little and when they do it's often racialized fetishes which i found very interesting oh no
00:35:20.640
don't do that guys don't do it a lot of this though you got to really you know take it with a grain of
00:35:27.600
salt so an example of what i mean by this is when i was trying to get an understanding of like how
00:35:33.840
different groups said that they liked participating in in stuff it was like well keep in mind that black
00:35:41.120
men are are more interested in pleasing women than white men and i was like that doesn't sound like what
00:35:48.160
i've heard from people that black men spend a longer time trying to please women and then i was like
00:35:52.560
like what journal posted this journal of black psychology i was like okay okay that makes sense
00:36:02.240
but i would be interested if that is trying people can who've had more experience with with both
00:36:07.120
groups can let us know if my intuition is wrong here it's just not what i've heard on the street
00:36:11.520
i feel like the general my finger on the pulse of discourse and what i've seen across everything
00:36:19.280
that i've kind of just ingested over the past 10 years is that black men are seen as satisfying women
00:36:28.240
more sexually that's like what i've yeah it's just my jet i think it's like the reputation so i mean
00:36:35.760
normally stereotypes exist for a reason right so let's go via country for the most common search
00:36:44.800
terms okay on sites for like yeah we can get better maybe maybe we'll find some pattern here okay okay
00:36:50.640
okay united states the most viewed category is lesbian after lesbian it's latina which is so sad
00:36:56.480
given that lesbians are fake news there's like this just this concept that people wish was real
00:37:00.640
then milf i think milf is a sign of an aging society because i did not think that's a really
00:37:06.560
good point growing up absolutely um then asian then hentai no white's not on here yet then ebony
00:37:13.120
then that wait white's not on here at all i guess it's just assumed that if you're just looking up
00:37:18.560
yeah it's just like sort of default they're gonna be and that's that's certainly what i've seen
00:37:23.680
yeah white women mexico milf number one aging society then lesbian
00:37:31.520
um philippines this i thought interesting panay filipino women number one right
00:37:37.280
they're looking for like their own group then hit ties in milf just milf across the board here
00:37:42.000
brazil starts with femboy oh no transgender is number one in brazil then femboy is number two
00:37:47.680
i feel like it checks out brazil is fun you know they're just going for it well that's not a good sign
00:37:54.640
for a society no i mean in terms of their birth race don't look good but everyone's going out okay
00:38:03.360
malcolm are we gonna go out having fun or are we not okay i've got a place of the rome clip here about
00:38:09.680
how femboys destroyed rome the fall of rome joe rogan had this to say on his podcast fascinating
00:38:17.440
that the end of empires they get really concerned with gender and hermaphrodites the roman femboy
00:38:22.560
fully grown and willing to take on the role of a common roman woman even the emperor himself
00:38:29.360
donned girly outfits mascara and held many chamber parties the roman senate began having debates to
00:38:36.000
determine if quote being with a femboy was a totally gay thing after all to continue here germany
00:38:43.680
lesbian number one then milf france latina okay what's going on there interesting anyway yeah
00:38:55.440
basically across western countries lesbian is number one united kingdom lesbian number one australia
00:38:59.360
lesbian lesbian lesbian number one russia is transgenderism than femboy russia russia that is not
00:39:08.640
russia femboy russia a guest behind that steely russian man stereotype is a sensitive
00:39:20.400
feminine femboy lover fem femboy lover who just wants to be let out and just let me out of the snow
00:39:29.360
people okay so simone so there were a bunch of other studies but i didn't find them interesting
00:39:34.800
so i'm not going to bore our fans with them but thoughts simone i am surprised by hispanic men but
00:39:43.040
also that makes sense in a culture that has been subject to the evolutionary bottlenecks for hundreds
00:39:49.280
of years by catholicism which really leverages it like harnesses horniness in order to survive
00:39:55.680
um yeah and like sort of leverages and shapes it as though it's some kind of like energy that it's
00:40:01.760
like and i feel like that that might have something to do with it and so that that surprised me
00:40:10.800
yeah that's that's very interesting i guess some stereotypes make sense you know like in terms
00:40:15.360
of like well these are the countries that you go to and you have to worry about being hit on and
00:40:19.040
cat called more that kind of checks out right you know yeah so that yeah i'm still not convinced that
00:40:25.920
like they're really weird esoteric kinks out there you know like squids tentacles and because it doesn't
00:40:34.880
have to be squids what am i saying i'm not being inclusive enough whatever i i think that's more cultural
00:40:41.680
no i mean maybe it is a product of of being i don't i just don't understand why they're necessarily
00:40:50.320
a product of lower levels of of turn on i don't know i think it's a hypothesis i'm like here's here's
00:40:57.120
here's a counter theory wait let me present my counter theory why if you weren't a perv would you
00:41:02.720
figure out that you were into tentacles right like because you're just thinking of anything to feel
00:41:08.240
something like and one day you're at the market do it for me and you're like oh this is it that's
00:41:15.520
my finally i feel no i mean you look at like hentai or something like that right like japanese people
00:41:22.240
go really hard with trying to induce emotional states and people within their like corn right like
00:41:27.360
they're like we need to go all the way like you have to you have to read through like 15 pages of
00:41:33.920
plot development to get to some kind of everyone's wearing clothes nothing's you know yeah you're
00:41:40.880
right you're right i do not have the attention span for it i've never been able to like go through even
00:41:46.240
just out of curiosity manga based or like hentai because i'm just i'm like man get to the point
00:41:53.520
i don't have time for this okay so other other i'm looking for some like white protestant ones that
00:41:59.680
are like known the the famous one is the white protestant women and effing dogs like that's a
00:42:06.240
white protestant woman thing oh it's such a it's such a thing it's such a thing it's like an internet
00:42:10.800
joke is yeah like with any sort of online no-no material your default female actress or or female
00:42:22.160
participant is going to be white no i understand but this is like a joke in manosphere circles i don't know
00:42:27.760
if it's a real phenomenon but it is a manosphere joke is that like the type of woman who you but
00:42:34.480
also like when it comes to dudes having deep deep relationships with animals it's also it's like
00:42:44.000
normal in colombia donkey shows are a mexican thing like bestiality and dudes is a latin american thing
00:42:51.280
i guess you're pretty right we we talked about what are they called tijuana something
00:42:55.200
tijuana donkey now we don't know if those are real but what we do know is real a hundred percent is
00:42:59.360
real is that in some colombian towns it was just completely normal did was that young man having
00:43:05.680
relations with that donkey they say yes that's right what did he say no no no trouble at all normal
00:43:13.760
so you go enjoy the company of donkeys
00:43:24.240
so they say that basically that's the first wife the first lover that they have oh that like when
00:43:29.040
when you wanted to to prepare for your first night in bed with your wife you would first
00:43:33.200
go have a go at the donkey and it's still normal today in i would be so angry as a woman to know
00:43:39.760
that he'd stuck it in a donkey before like that's not did you clean it by the way sheep i think is what
00:43:46.800
they use well then how we're going to lanolin have you touched like a sheep do you know how greasy
00:43:54.720
sheep are i don't want to think about it okay simone i'm not into it it's not my it's not my thing either
00:44:00.640
i'm not into i'm just what's it sorry i'm trying to think of other ones that like
00:44:05.200
vampires white people are into vampires but latinas are into vampires too for what i've
00:44:09.440
seen everyone's into vampires asians i have not seen asians into vampires yeah well and in twilight
00:44:15.520
it's not like furries white furries furries white catholics furries have not taken off in in east
00:44:23.840
asia even though they have some of the best furry media out there beast stars i think it's the best furry
00:44:28.880
media ever made well and japan is the country of mascots there's like a mascot for the airport
00:44:34.480
there's a mascot for your bathroom those are they're not big into furries there and in latin
00:44:38.400
america furries are not as big despite all other parts of nerd culture being much larger see our
00:44:43.040
episode on why are latin americans such a bunch of nerds so yeah and it's not just latin americans
00:44:48.160
catholics more broadly like manga like the number one market in the world yeah but as you discussed
00:44:52.800
in that episode a lot of that had to do with like licensing fees and the cost of distributing
00:44:57.200
that doesn't explain why manga is so popular in france because it's good okay shut up catholics
00:45:02.480
have better taste in nerd culture i'm just gonna in clothing too they win they win they do they have
00:45:08.400
better taste in nerd culture i'm just gonna be honest that the pope did an anime girl like come on
00:45:13.280
yeah no but also like the pope has the best religious garments so dude true they got style
00:45:19.680
maybe that's where the femboy stuff is coming from who knows i don't know that was interesting though and
00:45:25.440
you know who you are we we love you thank you for sending us that interesting thought to start our
00:45:30.080
day our audience is great and we love everyone i have from this that i want to pull on i want to
00:45:34.560
pull on this thread i'm gonna need some comments to pull on this thread okay
00:45:39.840
did like sissification stuff yeah where did that when did it come did this actually like come because
00:45:46.400
when i go to google trends it looks like the trend line has only been going down since google
00:45:50.640
trends started recording this in 2004 but maybe people just stopped searching it on google because
00:45:55.760
they that's not the way people they're embarrassed yeah we all have better methods now everybody knows
00:46:01.840
that's not a good way to find stuff there have been enough subpoenas we don't need that but is it
00:46:09.760
actually that much more common than it used to be is it actually true it feels new to both of us yeah
00:46:14.800
it's not just you malcolm i feel that way too but also i i didn't look into it and or even know about
00:46:20.000
it until very recently so it could just be one of those those once you see it you see it everywhere
00:46:25.200
things for us personally as just like people who discover this so i don't know anyway i don't yeah so
00:46:31.920
i want to get that because if it's not if this is actually a new phenomenon i want to chart it against
00:46:37.760
the the emergence of the trans movement i think we might find something interesting there we'll
00:46:43.360
check it out yeah all right well i love you love you too you want hawaiian buns with the mango curry
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it wasn't a mango curry it was a pinang curry oh it was there's mango in it but there's some
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yeah i mean if you're doing it with with buns just like toast up some buns and put it on the side and
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i'll put it on top and and okay we'll see or i can put it over rice too if you prefer
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it'll be better over rice okay i love you bye i love you bye
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this one
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It's surely going sideways
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You're so cute
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