Based Camp - ＂Men Should Pay For Single Women to Have Kids＂ (We Wish Leftists Never Discovered Pronatalism)

00:00:00.000 like a couple days ago. Article titled, Toward Individualistic Reproduction, Solving the Fertility

00:00:05.820 Crisis Could Require a Further Marginalization of Men. Great title. Almost all women still want 0.85

00:00:12.940 to reproduce, but many struggle to find a good enough partner. This article argues from an

00:00:17.300 evolutionary perspective that many men's utility to free women has been so diminished that solving

00:00:24.180 the fertility crisis by increasing pair bonding rates seems unfeasible in other words men are 0.94

00:00:30.460 useless now they made men useless to women yes yeah this is what leftists are saying that today's 0.97

00:00:37.580 combination of female autonomy and contraception has partially reopened a promiscuous highly 0.98

00:00:42.540 selective mating pattern now mediated by modern tools like dating apps but they're basically like

00:00:47.600 oh apes used to have just like a lot of females mating with one man and now we're kind of going

00:00:52.680 back to that like and there's no there's no actually they actually want to go back to

00:00:57.580 my simone would you like to know more hello malcolm i'm excited to be speaking with you today

00:01:03.140 because as prominent pronatalist advocates we're often asked where are the leftist pronatalist

00:01:07.900 where are the you know trusted academic pronatalists what's what's going on with them

00:01:13.080 surely they exist what are their policies what are their policies well one one set just published

00:01:21.060 their policies and they're kind of unhinged and dystopian so i'm delighted and i want to share

00:01:26.300 them with you well generally i like unhinged and dystopian you know a lot of you say i'm unhinged

00:01:32.300 and dystopian so yeah no this is what we it's what we'd like to see uh so yeah i think both of

00:01:39.200 us are going to come off maybe a little bit more in favor of this and you might expect but there

00:01:43.580 are some things about it that i think are just horrible so yeah well we'll critique it but let

00:01:47.900 we first just give you you know the full the full breakdown but referring to a research article

00:01:53.720 published in politics and life sciences from cambridge university press christian hyens on

00:01:59.860 x posted checking in on the status of locism and it turns out leftist academics are unironically

00:02:06.400 saying that society needs to intentionally quote unquote marginalize men even more to supposedly

00:02:13.000 solve the birth rate history shows us that's what's normalized in academia becomes publicly

00:02:19.000 mainstream within a generation and there's no sign the ship is turning or even slowing down

00:02:24.520 well i i think there is a sign that that ship is in the process of sinking yeah we would beg to

00:02:30.280 differ with christian on that he continues if academics are going to unironically argue that

00:02:35.560 society has to intentionally beat down men even more in the name of apparently resolving the

00:02:40.460 birth rate crisis, then all bets are off and it's time to start pointing out the obvious as a

00:02:45.780 rebuttal. The way you solve the birth rate crisis is by banning women from most professions they 1.00

00:02:51.300 weren't engaged in before 1965. I don't see how this is any more radical than what's already being 0.71

00:02:56.820 normalized within academia, but you're unlikely to ever see a paper with this kind of abstract

00:03:02.000 published because it transgresses one of progressivism's most holy pillars. Now, I mean,

00:03:07.160 i disagree with that because women have been engaged in all sorts of professions before 1965

00:03:12.120 that i i guess like maybe that's maybe that's the point that's actually that could be a really

00:03:18.340 interesting thing to to explore but i don't think that's the solution anyway they continue artificial 0.60

00:03:22.840 a lot of guys are unaware of how employed many women were before that period the only period 1.00

00:03:28.980 where women were not widely employed was like the 1920s to the 1950s and before that they held 1.00

00:03:35.100 most jobs that they hold today and they didn't hold so they didn't hold like the heavy manual 1.00

00:03:40.620 labor stuff or like the war stuff yeah they did they were out working in the fields i mean maybe

00:03:45.360 they weren't working in mind no not the same type of manual labor that you see being overwhelmingly

00:03:49.780 male today yes yeah and and so you're not really changing what would i mean i think what they

00:03:55.380 really mean is to artificially attempt to create like this this is one of these things that i just

00:04:02.720 need to, sorry, this gets me so much because of right-wing point and I'm right-wing and it is such 0.98

00:04:10.640 an uninformed right-wing point that I think it makes us all look stupid. So women, like the idea 1.00

00:04:17.180 of men leaving the household to go to a job that's like a wage job didn't really get popular until

00:04:24.840 the 1900s. Really in like the 1910s is when it began to reach a mass audience. It's a post-industrial

00:04:29.860 revolution thing yeah and before the and it stopped being male dominated in the 1970s that's

00:04:36.860 when women really began to enter the job market in mass so you you you only had this really 0.96

00:04:42.180 operational for about half a century and it was only really ever successful in like the upper

00:04:47.920 middle class in the united states which i mean obviously influenced hollywood of that era and

00:04:53.660 So created the perception, modern audiences, in this case, you are the modern audience, that this was ever a widespread role of women. 0.97

00:05:04.240 Women actually worked in the household industry, if you go to pre-wage labor economies, and at levels that were, I'd say ubiquitous, right? 0.75

00:05:16.360 The Christian's rebuttal might be exactly my point. I'm just saying pre-1965 jobs. 0.93

00:05:21.420 so well those jobs were often closer to what today we would call management that i think

00:05:29.440 these people realize so an example would be if the family was a butcher like we've talked about

00:05:36.760 before the man would butcher the meat and the woman would run the finances and the procuring 0.97

00:05:42.460 of food and then it was the manager true yeah she'd manage the books she'd manage the sales 1.00

00:05:49.520 she'd manage or if she was an upper-class woman she would quote-unquote manage the household 1.00

00:05:53.980 manage the household that meant the hiring hiring recruiting finances recruiting all the staff

00:06:01.480 the man may do business outside of the household but it was often a lot less of the critical kind

00:06:07.360 of business it's often like how do we invest our money more like entrepreneurship you would think

00:06:12.460 of it today which which i think is not an inappropriate way for a family to structure

00:06:16.560 themselves it's very much maybe that was christian's point we don't know the woman does

00:06:21.040 the safe job and the man does the riskier high return job which is i mean that's the way hunter

00:06:27.040 gatherers work the woman gathered the like the berries and that was you know low risk low return 0.94

00:06:32.600 but kept everyone fed and the men would go high risk high return like meat gathering where you

00:06:37.200 can get gourd you know but i thought you meant get gourd like pick up gourds you meant get gourd

00:06:43.900 like stabbed by a rhinoceros horn yes yes but i'm i'm pointing this out because it's important that

00:06:50.360 we not fall for like this weird trad cargo cult and we actually try to you know structure something 1.00

00:06:56.780 that could work because that's likely what christian was thinking like oh women should 0.98

00:07:00.540 just be secretaries and teachers whereas we're like yeah sure women can be managers and like 0.99

00:07:06.020 no women actually no i disagree with you in a modern context women make awful managers 0.97

00:07:11.960 women make other women within a household context they're they're really good managers 0.90

00:07:16.340 yeah when a woman is serving with her husband in a managerial context but she is technically 0.98

00:07:24.220 subordinate to them in a social context the dynamics work very well that's the way you and

00:07:29.940 i basically operate right i mean you i wake up i look at my calendar and i do what simone has put

00:07:35.360 on my calendar you know she manages my daily schedule she manages our finances and and just 0.99

00:07:40.540 you know like women managing finances is actually very common cross-culturally there's a famous case

00:07:45.800 in japan where they like significantly impacted the economy yeah this i've read about a long time 0.79

00:07:51.080 ago there was this period in japanese history where yeah like stay-at-home mothers got really

00:07:56.900 into investing and really good at it it was like early wall street bets japanese housewife edition

00:08:03.060 i will have to look up more on that if you want me to i don't remember off the top of my head

00:08:07.460 exactly how it worked but they got really really good at it if you want to learn more about this

00:08:11.060 this is called the miss want to know bay phenomenon and at their height they moved

00:08:14.920 billions of dollars a day yeah okay but they were like housewives so but they also became

00:08:21.380 very respected for what they did because they got really good at it no but my point being is that 0.96

00:08:27.220 it's actually you know the the the types of roles that women did historically now that you have like 0.90

00:08:32.820 larger multi-person companies they're not quite as good at or as efficient at as they were 0.95

00:08:38.180 historically the bureaucracy has expanded well i mean what you're describing to me also sounds

00:08:43.060 like a a different manifestation of the argument people constantly make around raising kids which

00:08:48.440 is that a genetically related family member is going to just do a much better job raising kids

00:08:54.620 than someone who's not like some paid daycare manager i mean it's kind of sick that we're

00:08:59.320 trying to force or obligate people to instead just, you know, have some paid person raise their kids

00:09:06.880 when they could just, they could do it. And this is maybe a little bit similar. Like you're going

00:09:11.100 to get worse results when you're working for someone who's not your kin. You don't care as

00:09:15.300 much. You're just not invested in it. And the economy would be a lot better off if people worked

00:09:19.440 more directly on their own families things. Yeah. I mean, family businesses are a thing for a reason,

00:09:26.380 but anyway massive massive tangent christian continues quoting from the article artificial

00:09:32.080 womb technology robot nannies and partners help women and men solo parent ai driven date matching

00:09:37.500 this reads this entire paper reads like a giant advertisement for brave new world so let's look

00:09:42.720 at the paper that he was referencing in this article because he's just referencing this

00:09:46.360 recently posted april 24th it was like a couple days ago article titled toward individualistic

00:09:53.120 Reproduction, Solving the Fertility Crisis, Could Require a Further Marginalization of Men.

00:09:58.820 Great title. It was written by three people, Mads Larson, Leif Edward Ottensen-Kinner,

00:10:05.660 and Marianne Fisher. And I think it's kind of telling when you look at their previous

00:10:12.200 research. The TLDR, if I look at the other papers they've published, is these people have looked at

00:10:20.820 datings and evolutionary psychology, broadly speaking. And they're like, yeah, man, there's

00:10:27.060 no solving the dating crisis that's leading to demographic collapse. So let's just build a

00:10:33.400 dystopia to solve that problem. It's great. Some, some titles. So Mads Larson most recently published

00:10:39.140 evolutionary perspectives on enhancing quality of life. Leif Edward Audenkinner posted, or sorry,

00:10:45.640 his recent articles are Breakup Likelihood Following Hypothetical Sexual or Emotional

00:10:50.420 Infidelity, Perceived Threat to Blame and Forgiveness, and also Female Sexual Attraction

00:10:55.860 Tactics. So he's looking very academically and granularly at sexual dynamics in the modern world.

00:11:02.360 Marianne Fisher, her recent publications are Mate Poaching by Men, and Female Intersexual

00:11:08.700 Competition, and Shifts in Partner Attractiveness, and The Internet is for Porn, and Evolutionary

00:11:15.040 psychology so these people aren't like writing out of nowhere okay like yeah yeah they're kind

00:11:21.080 of they're not completely unaware of current dating market problems yeah like they they

00:11:26.520 understand i think fairly intimately and from a they're like the evil team like they they're

00:11:31.280 they're like they're like are they evil or are they being practical and they're leftist and

00:11:36.020 we're seeing what a pragmatic based leftist would prescribe based on that finding which is why this

00:11:43.080 is so fun and interesting i'm worried i don't like these words together i will read to you the

00:11:47.680 abstract the cross-national correlation between gender equality and lower fertility is exceptionally

00:11:53.640 strong r equals approximately 0.81 after the 1960s a unique mating regime spread across parts of the

00:12:01.740 world with female emancipation individual mate choice and effective birth control followed by 0.57

00:12:06.880 a continuing rise in singlehood and declining fertility almost all women still want to reproduce

00:12:11.840 but many struggle to find a good enough partner. This article argues from an evolutionary perspective

00:12:16.920 that many men's utility to free women has been so diminished that solving the fertility crisis by

00:12:23.980 increasing pair bonding rates seems unfeasible. In other words, men are useless now. 0.98

00:12:30.340 Yes, they made men useless to women. Yes, this is what leftists are saying. Anyway, 1.00

00:12:36.120 a viable means for aiding the survival of low fertility nations could be to provide women 0.99

00:12:40.400 with the economic and social resources necessary for them to conclude that having children alone 0.99

00:12:46.080 makes for a better life than remaining childless oh my god this is so dystopian they want women

00:12:52.320 oh my god i know i'm taking too much delight in this this is to come on what they're going to do

00:12:58.800 is they're going to tax the men to pay for this these men that they supposedly don't need because

00:13:03.520 if the money's not coming from the women then who's it coming from right they're literally

00:13:08.560 turning men into slaves of the state to support these women who are the the partners married to 1.00

00:13:14.780 the state a little bit a little bit policies would likely exacerbate male marginalization

00:13:20.000 but new technologies are on the horizon they can offer men reproductive equality so they also in

00:13:25.820 that last sentence to acknowledge we are throwing men under the bus but maybe they'll be okay when

00:13:31.820 AI takes over. So the context which they present for all of this makes sense given their credentials

00:13:39.800 and history as academics focused on evolutionary psychology and dating dynamics. And in their

00:13:45.900 framing, ancestral ape-like promiscuity gave way to a long era of enforced pair bonding via canon 0.62

00:13:52.580 social institutions. But they point out, which is real, that today's combination of female autonomy 0.99

00:13:58.520 and contraception has partially reopened a promiscuous highly selective mating pattern 0.59

00:14:03.240 now mediated by modern tools like dating apps but they're basically like oh apes used to have just

00:14:08.540 like a lot of females mating with one man and now we're kind of going back to that like and there's

00:14:13.440 no there's no actually they actually want to go back to my simone yeah so they they argue that

00:14:20.280 this structurally sidelines many men and reduces pair bonding and thus births and that that's the

00:14:26.980 core evolutionary psychological mechanism behind the fertility crisis in rich gender equal countries

00:14:33.060 and so i you know if you're wondering on what grounds they argue the problem can't be fixed by

00:14:40.060 amending dating and marriage norms in developed countries which is kind of what we're trying to

00:14:45.100 encourage at least among some subcultures that we hope will survive and why they think pair bonding

00:14:49.740 can't be repaired they argue that you can't fix the fertility crisis just by tweaking dating or

00:14:54.920 marriage norms because a women's preferences and incentives have structurally shifted in rich 0.91

00:15:00.480 gender equal countries and societies and b a large share of men now offer too little utility

00:15:06.700 to be chosen as partners and that c emotional and technological environment the contraception

00:15:13.500 basically in dating apps pushes men toward dating short term and and having non-reproductive matches

00:15:19.280 and norms can't reverse it per their argument and keep in mind these are academic researchers

00:15:24.340 who have looked at partner selection who have looked at behavior around dating they're not

00:15:28.940 necessarily wrong everything they're saying is true if you will completely sociopathically hate

00:15:34.300 men well and they do so it's fine you know no one no one contractually has to love men so i guess

00:15:43.260 they've chosen not to so what do they recommend they want to make it easy for women to have

00:15:47.560 children without partners. And their core policy recommendation is, is to, to have states provide

00:15:54.360 women with such extensive economic and social support that a woman can rationally judge having

00:16:00.600 children alone as better than remaining childless. So they basically were like, let's make welfare 0.99

00:16:06.160 queens. And then that will, that will raise the birth rate. And for a start, they want governments 1.00

00:16:11.320 to run quote, limited reproductive policy experiments, end quote. So basically pilot

00:16:16.580 programs to empirically discover what package and level of support actually induces women

00:16:22.180 to have the number of children they report wanting when single so i guess the idea is to do some sort

00:16:30.560 of sam altman style like the the open ai style ubi experiment but just with like support for women

00:16:38.400 having kids and at the beginning they would theoretically ask women hey how many kids do you

00:16:44.120 want and then offer them varying levels of support in order to have those kids and then just sort of

00:16:51.180 see what's enough to actually get that completed fertility that that matches their desire and they

00:16:56.820 there's no there's no problem with kids who grow up in one parent household no what no what are you

00:17:02.500 talking about i'm not heard of such a thing but you see when the state is daddy who cares everything's

00:17:08.120 fine well i mean i think that this sort of like just not caring about reality is really how we

00:17:13.540 gotten the the situation we are with the immigration situation and stuff like that yeah which is people

00:17:18.960 just being like you see that like i saw some recent stats that horrified me it was something 0.92

00:17:23.600 like well over 50 percent of hispanic immigrants are on welfare right like no really that hispanic

00:17:30.260 immigrants so these stats i'm sharing with you here i was extremely skeptical of them at first

00:17:35.060 so i decided to go double check that they're real and this is real it's february 2026 from the center

00:17:41.260 of Immigration Studies, titled Welfare Use by Immigrants and the U.S. Born in 2024.

00:17:47.140 The report analyzes U.S. Census Bureau's 2024 Survey of Income and Program Participation,

00:17:53.060 SIPP, which measures participants in major means-tested welfare programs.

00:17:57.960 So this is from U.S. government databases, all right?

00:18:01.680 So what we see is the first generation of Hispanic immigrants, 70% of them are on welfare.

00:18:07.800 In the second generation, it's 54% of them are on welfare.

00:18:11.260 and in the third generation, it's 53% of them are still on welfare. So more than half of third

00:18:16.680 generation Hispanic immigrants are still on welfare. If you contrast this with white immigrants

00:18:21.940 in the first generation, it's 33%. In the second generation, it's 31%. In the third generation, 0.88

00:18:27.100 it's 32%. So fairly steady there. If you look at Asian immigrants, it's 38%, 29%, 37%.

00:18:33.100 The interesting one is really Blacks, because Blacks go up the longer they're in the United 1.00

00:18:39.200 states it's 52 48 56 for the third generation yeah you cannot take a majority population into 1.00

00:18:47.020 your country that is on welfare right like no that that you've said it once and you'll say it again

00:18:53.220 you cannot both have porous borders and general social programs you got to choose one yeah and 0.90

00:18:58.780 and people just ignore this because they act like these populations are the same as the native

00:19:04.440 population and they're not necessarily the same as the native population and you

00:19:10.020 this gets me to like a secondary point that i'm getting really pissed about on the right

00:19:17.140 and i want to clock someone for this so after this recent guy who tried to assassinate trump

00:19:24.180 everyone on the right is like well i would never ever push for any form of political violence but

00:19:34.140 the left does and i'm like look it's one thing to say that in our current political climate it 0.74

00:19:40.220 doesn't make sense to push for political violence but suppose some for example immigrant population

00:19:46.680 with value systems entirely different from yours took over your government and enforced those value 0.71

00:19:51.620 systems on your women and children right like you don't even resist then like there is no level of

00:19:58.060 the government is with you where you don't and you're like well i can resist with my vote and

00:20:03.540 They plan to rig the system to make it impossible for you to win going forwards.

00:20:08.740 I mean, consider that even right now we're seeing the Voting Rights Act being knocked down, an act that for most of our lives had given around 30 congressional seats to people solely based on racial interests, right? 0.68

00:20:22.740 That is completely un-American, and this sort of stuff can be enacted again.

00:20:27.680 like this idea that there is no amount you know okay so now the government decides that i mean

00:20:34.880 and some countries are basically already at this point you don't fight then right trouble with

00:20:41.040 scotland is that it's full of scots grant them prima nocte first night when any common girl 0.77

00:20:48.720 inhabiting their lands is married our immigrants shall have sexual rights to her on the night of 0.99

00:20:55.860 her way. If we can't get them out, we'll breed them out. That should fetch just the kind of 1.00

00:21:02.560 lords we want to stop. Taxes or no taxes. Like, I mean, if you look at the grape situation that's 0.66

00:21:09.980 going on in the UK right now, they are not far from that, right? There was a recent case where

00:21:14.500 an underage girl was being dragged away from a park and there was video of it and she was

00:21:17.820 screaming that they were going to grape her. And the government has banned the distribution of this

00:21:23.440 because they said it would cause social unrest.

00:21:26.640 The asylum seekers John Jahanzeb and Israr Niazel

00:21:30.240 steered the 15-year-old victim away from her friend group

00:21:33.040 in Leamington Spa in Warwickshire and brutally in a park.

00:21:37.660 According to the BBC, more disturbing evidence was also played in court,

00:21:41.620 including cell phone footage recovered by police and recorded by the victim,

00:21:45.740 which showed her screaming for help

00:21:47.400 and Jahanzeb covering her mouth to muffle the shrieks.

00:21:50.900 The Sun reported that more clips captured by the teen showed her crying and begging not to be brought into the park.

00:21:57.260 LBC reported that the video clips were so disturbing that it would cause, quote, disorder if the general public were exposed to it.

00:22:05.860 But they also recently, just if it makes you feel any better, did arrest a VTuber for having a model that she drew that could be interpreted as underage.

00:22:16.740 no it was a closed model and a model that she drew herself and it didn't look particularly

00:22:22.860 not safe for work to me but you know this is the difference in and it was an adult vtuber

00:22:28.460 it's not like it was a child yeah of course what else would it be no i mean there there's a point

00:22:34.980 where it's like how much do you need to be getting cut by your government before this makes sense

00:22:41.220 Right. And we live in a world where that could happen to us, like within our lifetimes, removing a tool for resolving things off the table simply because it makes you look like a good guy right now in this particular political fight where the left is.

00:22:57.840 And I want to be extremely clear here. I am not saying we are anywhere close to that point yet as a society. I am just saying pretending like that point doesn't exist is in long term detrimental to any value set you claim to espouse.

00:23:13.660 Like when I look at my ancestors and the South became a slave state and seceded from the North and they created the breakoff state of the free state of Jones, would you not have done that? Would you not have seen, oh, now I live in a society dedicated to slavery. It's worth me resisting that. Or when the Nazis took power, would you not have resisted that? Would you have just gone along with that because now that's the law? 0.59

00:23:35.860 or when the communists took power in the soviet union and started sending people to gulags you

00:23:41.500 would have just said okay well i guess this is the law now like this is what gets me there could

00:23:48.080 always come a point where resisting makes sense what is evil is not resisting but the leftist

00:23:54.340 framing of completely normal mainstream political opinions that any reasonable person might have

00:24:01.600 as extremist political opinions it is not deciding that if things ever actually became extreme like

00:24:09.100 we were under a communist or nazi or confederate state that it wouldn't make sense to resist in

00:24:13.640 any means possible so to be clear here i am not calling for political violence i am just saying

00:24:18.480 that if nazis ever actually took control of one of our countries that's something i would work

00:24:24.860 to resist but it's particularly rich that nux keeps going over this whole thou shall not kill

00:24:30.200 thing that he's so into when you consider that his ancestors the jews did not successfully resist

00:24:37.240 the nazi state and my ancestors had to go in and bear the moral cost of killing the people that did

00:24:44.180 that to his ancestors i would like to think that they have learned from that and their actions

00:24:49.980 recently seem to suggest they have but the evil thing is not resisting actual nazis it's framing

00:24:57.540 normal political ideology as nazism to justify reactions against normal political figures

00:25:06.160 and normal civilians and the real problem here and we might do i mean we've done videos on this

00:25:10.960 in the past which is why i'm not retreading it it's that the left is framing normal right-wing

00:25:15.160 positions as nazi and then they're giving people the psychological license to kill anyone they

00:25:20.220 have deemed nazi but they have defined that 50 percent of americans are nazis and this is

00:25:24.840 happening and people are being radicalized not by far leftists but by mainstream news outlets by

00:25:31.000 csn cnn and msnbc sorry i had to go on a rant there but well let's explore how these academics

00:25:38.440 would propose this welfare queen pronatalist initiative to happen so the the big thing is

00:25:46.120 is just large resource transfers though they are very deliberately vague in the article which i

00:25:53.280 think is a very common progressive hand wavy way of like oh let's just you know have infinite

00:25:59.640 immigration and let's just have you know let's not incarcerate people for committing crimes and

00:26:05.040 like well okay well how are we going to deal with like the fallout from that they're like 0.84

00:26:07.940 you know what do you want to do you want to you want to put them in jail you want to send them

00:26:12.260 back you know it's you don't exactly explain by the way have you seen the the video recently of

00:26:17.340 like random mobs in the uk beating up people who are in pubs no wait why yes for like

00:26:23.420 frustratingly this video has been scrubbed from youtube which means if i post it this video is

00:26:29.700 likely going to be taken down so you have to go to one of a few news websites to see it here in

00:26:35.360 the uk express you can see uk riots gangs waving palestinian flags beat lone pub goer in more chaos

00:26:41.300 in britain streets or in the sun violent attack shocking footage shows gang waving palestinian

00:26:46.880 flag storming pub before knocking man to the floor and kicking him in the head if you want video i

00:26:51.920 was able to find of what it's like to live in the uk these days here we go a machete on display in

00:26:59.400 broad daylight i'm just gonna shot the samurai swords in there this was a daytime brawl you're

00:27:05.280 a pro bar barbers fighting over territory get it man get it to on-street beatings 1.00

00:27:12.220 this is kebab shop turf wars and he said we're gonna kill you and we will burn down your house 0.99

00:27:19.600 yeah it sounds like we should do an episode on that what what the the yeah the the downfall 1.00

00:27:27.280 of alcohol not only your sales down but you're getting beaten up for drinking that's insane

00:27:31.400 wow and a british tradition i mean if there's anyone who's allowed to day drink it's brits

00:27:36.200 not anymore it's the land of breakfast beer oh my god that's yeah i don't know if you've seen

00:27:42.460 some of the recent tweets from jk rowling no but they're pretty freaking insane now she's gotten 0.59

00:27:48.740 on the whole like islamists are the problem thing oh god bless okay you know somebody basically this

00:27:56.140 one british pm was talking about how you know violence is you know never the answer and she's

00:28:03.780 like well this is this katie something it better not be katie something because i saw a video of

00:28:09.220 her shouting globalize the infatata and and katie then comes back with this globalized

00:28:16.920 infatata and she goes i don't think you know what that means and it's like you well of course she's

00:28:22.660 like it means the struggle in the same way mind comps just means mind struggle right like it's

00:28:26.880 a totally arbitrary word but it's just german for my struggle come on and jk rowling writes back 0.99

00:28:33.700 your show is called useful idiots i don't think you know what that means oh my god jk rowling is 0.78

00:28:40.060 cooking i love her we might need to do a full episode on that so save it but elon and jk 0.98

00:28:46.640 rowling on one team that's that's what we needed from childhood right yeah it's delightful yeah

00:28:52.420 basically i think they want some sort of long-term income support for women who choose to become

00:28:57.940 single mothers or guaranteed living standards for single mothers. They also want broader

00:29:03.660 welfare support targeted at enabling individualistic reproduction. And this is in

00:29:09.200 contrast to what many states have proposed in terms of prenatalist policies, where they really

00:29:13.760 want to focus on family formation and giving benefits to people who are married, who are

00:29:18.100 raising kids in two-parent households. So this is a distinct diversion from that. And as Malcolm

00:29:24.600 highlighted earlier, there is abundant research on the idea of being raised by two people. You

00:29:31.660 can read the book, The Two-Parent Privilege, which I'm almost finished with. It's a pretty good

00:29:36.680 summary of the research, if you don't believe me, but they want strong public childcare. They want

00:29:42.880 strong work-family policies, and they want general welfare systems that remove dependence on male 0.98

00:29:48.420 partners because they're useless and they're not worth marrying. And the general idea is just to

00:29:52.560 make women wait so they don't want assistance going to two-parent couples no no no there's

00:29:57.140 no mention of that yeah no this is a the very premise of this is we declare bankruptcy on

00:30:03.040 long-term committed partnerships and on men remember i i had the episode where i was like

00:30:10.780 humanity's gonna speciate guys like no this is this is feeding into that hypothesis this is we're

00:30:16.420 adding that you know one tally to the side of the scoreboard for speciation for sure and i and i'm

00:30:23.280 gonna be honest like i because the person who keeps getting me with this stuff is nuts because

00:30:27.160 knox is always like we on the right would never think violence is okay meanwhile you know me if

00:30:33.220 i lived in britain right now go ahead mom it looks like bitlock got hold of those home office

00:30:38.420 documents via freedom of information requests nine freedom of information requests he accused

00:30:43.420 It's the government of covering up the true stats on undocumented migrants.

00:30:46.440 Locke's 4chan account, ma, deactivated last month.

00:30:49.020 Because?

00:30:49.960 History books say the last land invasion of England was 1066.

00:30:53.720 In actual fact, the last land invasion of England was yesterday morning at 945

00:30:57.700 when a boat carrying 40 undocumented male migrants landed in Dungeness, Kent.

00:31:02.640 An Afghan national was arrested after stabbing three people in Midhurst Gardens in Uxbridge in West London.

00:31:08.820 One victim, 49-year-old Wayne Broadhurst, was walking his dog down the street

00:31:13.120 during the horrific attack.

00:31:15.140 The suspect illegally entered the UK

00:31:17.220 and was granted asylum, according to the BBC.

00:31:20.460 A land invasion is an act of war.

00:31:22.260 In war, civilians are allowed to whistle post.

00:31:24.980 And I want to be extremely clear, this clip is a joke.

00:31:28.320 And I think that the way that in this BBC show

00:31:31.020 where they're trying to paint right-wing extremism,

00:31:33.080 they also hugely misrepresent who we are mad at

00:31:36.800 is not the immigrants. 1.00

00:31:38.180 It is the people who have hidden the deleterious effects of unfiltered immigration from the general public and who are arresting people for normal things in their daily lives, like drawing V-tube characters. 1.00

00:31:54.100 Anyway, continue. 0.58

00:31:55.360 And presumably, admittedly, they do the same thing that we kind of do with prenatalism, which is like maybe AI is going to make all this possible that the authors refer to a post-automation future.

00:32:06.980 Here's a quote from their article. Today, such large resource transfers are perhaps politically and fiscally unfeasible, but nations should consider limited reproductive policy experiments to find out what social and economic resources are required to motivate sufficient individualistic reproduction.

00:32:23.340 In our post-automation future, perhaps as early as by 2040, Kurzweil reference, Kurzweil

00:32:31.000 2024, you got to throw in your singulitarian references, think of some more references.

00:32:37.560 Insights from these pilot projects could inform national policies with the potential to substantially

00:32:42.420 increase fertility. 0.91

00:32:43.900 And then, of course, they acknowledge the side effect of men being totally screwed over. 0.94

00:32:48.040 They say that- 0.87

00:32:49.160 Side effect, but whatever, whatever.

00:32:50.880 that's probably they would likely exacerbate male marginalization so they also admit it's already

00:32:55.980 happening since further reducing women's economic dependence on men lowers the male value of some

00:33:01.740 groups of men but but don't worry they argue the existential risks from demographic collapse

00:33:07.540 justify these measures as they speculate that technologies like artificial wombs could later

00:33:12.500 give men more symmetrical reproductive options restoring some form of reproductive equality

00:33:18.300 between the sexes. So I think it's very appropriate that I got the tip for this episode from

00:33:23.600 not Aldous Huxley on X, who sends us some of our best material. You rock. And his name is very

00:33:32.080 appropriate because the thing they're describing here is uncannily like Aldous Huxley's Brave New

00:33:38.160 World, where reproduction is this very individualistic reproduction, except instead of

00:33:45.180 empowering individual women to reproduce on their own terms, the state is completely 0.51

00:33:49.360 responsible for reproduction. It engineers people in hatcheries and severed sex from procreation to 0.99

00:33:56.140 maximalize social stability and control. So basically, since you haven't read it, in Brave

00:34:01.780 New World, in the world state, no one gives birth. All children are produced in centralized hatcheries

00:34:07.040 using processes like, they call it boconos visification, and they mass produce almost

00:34:13.620 identical embryos to match the state's labor needs and they're like in these tiers of like

00:34:18.320 alphas and betas and etc natural pregnancy and motherhood i i would go more i mean i'm not

00:34:24.660 against this idea for like our family or cultural group yeah but i certainly wouldn't go the

00:34:31.020 direction they're going which is like cutting out men and creating these weird poly giant you know

00:34:36.420 like yeah the brave new world approach is is kind of equal and it i mean that's like a solution that

00:34:42.060 kind of works for everyone and in brave new world everyone's also conditioned from birth to be really

00:34:45.700 really happy with how they are i think it's a good thing to do right like why make somebody unhappy

00:34:51.180 with their station in life i know that like people are like oh it's so dystopian i love you said you

00:34:55.360 read it for the first time you're like oh how utopian like this is awesome i mean the way that

00:34:58.740 i would do it is i i think the the way that like karinski does it or the the the son of karinski

00:35:06.760 who set up the the clan system in the battle tech universe is a fairly close to the way i would

00:35:12.680 structure things if i could just structure them anyway which is to have a system where you bio

00:35:19.880 you you clone from like the most successful people within your culture and that determines how much

00:35:25.160 of their dna is is within the individual and these individuals within sort of pools do competitions

00:35:33.400 that they're not all expected to survive to secure the fittest from within a batch

00:35:39.320 you five are the final vestiges of your brood that some deem might one day be of value to the clan

00:35:47.800 i am not one of them to me you five are the excrement of a failed semi-aborted batch from my 0.97

00:35:55.960 the lighthouse 0.98

00:35:59.000 far from the pinnacle of humanity demanded by the clans geneticists that 0.91

00:36:03.340 spawned you

00:36:08.780 I am a gracious host so I will give you the opportunity to show me what those

00:36:15.960 traffic Sun Lunderholm taught you show me what you know of being a real true

00:36:21.840 born mech warrior and prove yourselves worthy of the name and heritage you carry with you

00:36:33.760 and then those individuals end on taking on roles within society that that are meaningful and then

00:36:40.080 you can still have like freeborn people like that's within clan society um but they just

00:36:45.440 don't often get the most prestigious jobs and stuff like that because they're not as genetically

00:36:49.680 fit as the people who have to go through this incredibly rigorous process and the people who

00:36:55.740 go through the rigorous process believe they have a duty to the wider clan and society and everything 0.99

00:37:00.500 like that so oh interesting arbitrarily cruel to the freeborns although they do view them with

00:37:05.460 prejudice yeah the the people who reproduce naturally and die naturally in brave new world

00:37:10.620 have to live on like basically wildlife preserves and they're seen as disgusting and horrific

00:37:14.700 and you it's even frowned upon to be even moderately monogamous in the the world state

00:37:24.740 of brave new world they have this saying they have all these things because they're all about

00:37:29.180 conditioning everyone belongs to everyone else and if you start seeing someone like a particular

00:37:34.920 person to like too much they're like hey man you need to start like sleeping around a little more 0.99

00:37:39.800 and like some some women because there is no reproduction i think at one point one of the 0.99

00:37:45.960 female characters is like feeling a little bit off and her friend is like oh like you should 0.53

00:37:49.960 just have a like a fake pregnancy like you they even have women like go through simulated pregnancies

00:37:55.800 i think it's like a form of treatment it's weird i like that system yeah that sounds very that's

00:38:01.480 that's not the future i would go for with yeah but i think the future that i would want would

00:38:06.300 be particularly brutalistic compared to what some people think is appropriate well but look i mean

00:38:11.720 what i what i really appreciate about this is that we've been waiting for publications from

00:38:19.080 academics and left-leaning people on what they think we should do about the problem and this

00:38:27.660 this is out there it's it's not what i would expect you know i always thought it would be

00:38:33.500 more of the the socialist approach of just give give everyone a ton of money but here they're

00:38:39.640 like they're really leaning in i think to a lot of progressive values which is like oh we can not

00:38:45.920 only give people a lot of money but also just destroy all men they don't even talk about like

00:38:51.360 how to address the social unrest that would result from that because they don't think that they need 0.99

00:38:56.880 to just you know a new excuse to kill men right like yeah maybe just also introduce like a maid

00:39:01.760 but for men like canada's euthanasia i mean that's what canada's made is you know it 0.95

00:39:06.220 disproportionately kills white people right at least but not men right i don't know if it's 0.52

00:39:10.720 i mean i know women are more mopey so you're right yeah i imagine if if we were to look it up 0.98

00:39:16.400 that there would be more women who utilize the services of made than men actually we can look 0.99

00:39:22.760 it up right now okay with the power of ai are you looking it up using rfabs slightly more men

00:39:31.740 well i get it done men get it done this is how it always has to be but i just don't understand

00:39:38.880 this this like lie down and take it approach you know if you're gonna unalive yourself anyway

00:39:45.000 i i am really getting quite perturbed that the right seems to not see that the left is willing

00:39:55.460 to use any tactic against us and we keep being like well we're gonna do things in the moral way

00:40:00.940 and it's like well i mean maybe that's why we keep losing ground yeah i i don't know

00:40:07.980 but i'm delighted by this bold stance point out for the people who are like well we need to do

00:40:13.400 things in the moral way if what is the moral way i i don't like that especially because they need

00:40:19.600 to somehow convince enough of the electorate to give them political control then they need to

00:40:23.420 enact the policy that need to be enacted without the women freaking out and voting against them 1.00

00:40:27.500 again, which even with ICE, which has barely done anything in terms of immigration in the United 1.00

00:40:32.500 States, has already like a mass triggered white women, right? To be like, oh, he's a, you know,

00:40:38.380 a fascist. You know, if we were actually going to resolve the problems that we have in countries

00:40:43.980 like the UK and the US, it's going to look so much worse because these communities are going

00:40:48.400 to fight back against being deported, right? Like, especially in a place like the UK, like imagine

00:40:53.000 if ice was doing raids in the uk right now you would have an actual war in the streets of some

00:40:57.960 major cities right like that is the situation that's been created and these people are upset

00:41:04.020 that they don't want the bad optics of that sort of stuff it's like come on like do you understand

00:41:10.620 how gruesome what's going to need to be done is if we are going to have a chance of stabilizing

00:41:19.240 for example most of europe at this point yeah i have nothing more to add aside from 0.54

00:41:29.080 i hope more leftists come out with their deranged takes i want the hassan piker take on

00:41:34.600 for natalism i want the i want i want everyone's nonsense because this is great they're finally

00:41:40.980 coming out it was inevitable because demographical app is an increasingly trending issue and i really

00:41:47.900 hope that more of the sort of expressed progressive values are played out in proposed

00:41:56.360 pronatalist policy because this is very amusing and delightful it's unhinged and i i like our

00:42:03.140 side needs to like realize who we're fighting against like they want you eradicated they want

00:42:09.540 your way like actually yeah and they just they just they they openly admit it this this with

00:42:14.380 this will marginalize men repercussion right they just write this down it's like of course

00:42:18.780 we're going to eradicate you what you thought but i mean they're useless so it's okay

00:42:23.220 it's so plus night at the very least among technologically productive populations these

00:42:29.260 people are an incredibly low fertility group so they're not going to exist in the future

00:42:34.220 well clearly as is evidenced by their very low rates of relationship formation it's conservatives

00:42:42.340 are marrying conservatives are having kids it's it's kind of a demographic inevitability but i 0.99

00:42:48.880 love you i'm glad we got married and i'm glad we have five kids so screw you guys screw you guys 0.95

00:42:53.960 we're going for our six this year so we'll let you guys know how that's gonna go fingers crossed 0.85

00:42:58.020 yeah fingers crossed but texas still alive and that was a touch and go it was i'm glad he's okay

00:43:05.260 all right love you bye love you too bye

00:43:09.320 so last friday's episode on pragmata was by far our least liked episode but i've noticed in the

00:43:18.340 comments people seem to have entirely missed the point of the argument we were making in the

00:43:22.580 episode they kept saying well by this definition any piece of art or game or literature could be

00:43:30.680 considered cornographic and i was like yeah was that not what we literally talked about for an

00:43:36.660 hour it's like 20 minutes like what did you think the point we were making was that's the reason why

00:43:42.540 we went so deep into where corn actually harms people where it may not harm people because we

00:43:48.660 were trying to point out that the buckets that we are using for dangerous and non-dangerous material

00:43:54.920 are too simplistic and it can lead us to not see dangers in material that we see as completely

00:44:03.500 unproblematic and over-rescribe dangers in material that may not be as problematic as we think so

00:44:09.940 somebody might be like well okay here's the easy way to do it like anything that's arousing is corn

00:44:14.520 and it's like well there's lots of like high art that's arousing there's lots of victorian art

00:44:20.500 that's arousing right like that's a pretty bad utility sort of categorization here and i think

00:44:27.140 that this becomes increasingly important especially in the context of dad corn where like it's

00:44:32.740 it's getting at your parent instincts and saying you'll get to experience what it's like to be a

00:44:39.100 parent without actually having to be a parent the reason we're like this is something that while in

00:44:43.540 the case of pragmatics not particularly problematic yet it could become extremely problematic in a few

00:44:49.940 years when ai gets really good at doing this and a larger and larger percentage of the male

00:44:54.700 population gets desperate and so that was the point we were making there but maybe we didn't

00:44:59.480 articulate it well or maybe a bunch of the people who didn't like it were like they didn't watch

00:45:03.940 much of the video or the point was too meta to grok i i don't know because the arguments against

00:45:09.520 the point seem to fundamentally not understand the point which was that anything should be

00:45:16.060 considered potentially as dangerous as pornography right like the friends that i've seen one shot by

00:45:22.280 forms of media that were not corn like be it wow or be it a fantasy series or be it warhammer

00:45:28.340 figurines is much much higher than the people whose lives i've seen be one shot by corn and

00:45:33.240 yet we categorize all those things into non-dangerous stuff and that's why we put together

00:45:37.920 the episode but i don't and i and i'm gonna say this is obviously not your fault because almost

00:45:43.200 everybody had the same reaction so it's clearly like we just sucked at articulating ourselves

00:45:47.600 but we had just gotten back from a three and a half hour car ride and we're rushing to get an

00:45:51.820 episode done that we didn't really prep so it's probably on us i actually should be clear here

00:45:55.980 it's not probably on us it's definitely on us if almost everybody misunderstands what you have said 0.90

00:46:00.900 it is not them being stupid it is you being bad at articulating yourself and i need to take 0.89

00:46:05.740 responsibility for that by the way other crazy news that has me really stressed right now is 0.99

00:46:10.700 leaflet finally did a video on us on her youtube channel where obviously not one of long or for

00:46:16.640 ones but i mean on one of our normal contents and it was on the trans mass murder one and it got her

00:46:20.860 channel flagged and was taken down and do you know why it was taken down because we were extremely

00:46:26.740 explicit with all our details there so you couldn't argue that we were lying about the statistics

00:46:30.220 it got taken down because of the video at the end where we're playing with our kids 0.96

00:46:33.980 and i call them affectionately little bastards and they said that that was being derogatory to

00:46:41.560 a minor and holy moly we don't realize how evil our enemies are but it was it's really cool i 0.83

00:46:49.580 enjoyed trying it out it's nice just to have the sources more prominently put i i like i've always

00:46:55.800 liked perplexity because it includes citations so she's talking about the new feature on rfab which

00:47:01.500 is a super it's meant to remove ai hallucinations so what it does is it runs multiple models that

00:47:09.760 can search the internet starting with grok and you can choose which model it runs and how many

00:47:13.980 checks it does and it reviews the answer and then edits the answer based on with like checks so you

00:47:22.420 can be like this many model runs said this was definitely true and it also adds facts if another

00:47:29.420 model forgot a fact so you can get a really expanded and really well thought through list

00:47:34.980 while knowing what's likely a hallucination and what's not if you want to check out this feature

00:47:40.340 directly you can go to rfab.ai that is rfab.ai backslash super dash search yeah it's it's quite

00:47:49.500 convenient especially if you're trying to do research that you're using for work or school

00:47:55.160 and you're like i really can't afford this to be hallucinated right now because even on perplexity

00:48:00.500 where i feel like it's better sourced and more transparently sourced there have been times where

00:48:04.900 when i click through on the sourced links the source isn't very good or it's harder to see

00:48:10.960 or they're just referencing some weird like roundup article somewhere so i like this yeah

00:48:17.360 i mean i will give you more feedback later when i can try it out more since

00:48:20.680 you're like what made it yesterday and now i'm trying it today so it's all very new

00:48:27.180 things move fast and what else we're also adding i'll see when i get this done it's it's it's not

00:48:32.420 done yet because it's a bit more complicated but 3d image generation from 2d images that we're

00:48:38.320 going to then work to map to meshes to make vtuber models so you'll be able to create full vtuber

00:48:45.280 models with ai is the hope okay okay i get it that's that's super cool yeah i know and we'll

00:48:54.160 also be the first site that does this at least to the degree that we're looking at doing it so

00:48:58.640 i love that well power to the people let's do it power to the people i am excited to be working on

00:49:05.860 things yeah we got we got turned down really quickly from an accelerator we made it really

00:49:08.980 far ways before and i'm so confused because we have like paying users and everything now and

00:49:12.620 we're growing pretty quick but well and they had broadly when we made it to a final round

00:49:17.040 interview the first time we applied been like hey yeah just get back to us when you do a b and c

00:49:22.980 and we did a b and c another like dead in the water with us so do they know something we don't

00:49:29.360 that's what we want to find out my big concern is it could be the not safe for work stuff

00:49:33.500 oh that yeah could just be dead in the water kind of thing but that's what most people use so you

00:49:40.040 know not taking that away i give the internet what it wants i'm not stupid here yes we give

00:49:47.520 the people what they want and what they want is pervy and that's okay that's okay we support it

00:49:54.960 all right i'm gonna get into it and i'm excited for this one okay cool all right yesterday he

00:50:02.040 was like i can't take off my shoes and i'm like oh okay and i like pull them off and then rocks

00:50:07.660 just fly everywhere when i take off his shoe because he's taking to putting rocks in his

00:50:13.040 shoes? So it's, excuse me, there was an explosion in there in 1983 in the night. I didn't expect

00:50:22.920 to see that. Excuse me? Activa, I thought you said that missiles hit the tracks. Oh yes,

00:50:29.060 missiles. Missiles hit the tracks and there was a giant explosion, the worst expression

00:50:36.320 in the world and the firefighters they all came over and helped fast and then they helped a lot

00:50:43.520 of parts okay 400 people are pronounced dead at the hospital but 10 survived and 10 survived

00:50:56.400 and two more somehow survived at the hospital and which were added to the 10 the two people

00:51:04.720 This helicopter right here, Austin, this medical helicopter, Austin, came over from America to Missouri to Dixit.

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＂Men Should Pay For Single Women to Have Kids＂ (We Wish Leftists Never Discovered Pronatalism)

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