Based Camp - Monster Girls & Evolutionary Biology (Are Gingers Monster Girls？)

00:00:00.000 Hello, gorgeous.

00:00:01.120 Hello, Simone. 0.69

00:00:02.340 So this is the subject that I particularly find interesting.

00:00:05.800 And a lot of people are surprised.

00:00:06.760 They're like, why are you interested in obscure paraphilias, which are more commonly known in the public as fetishes?

00:00:14.160 And the answer is because it tells us a lot about human neurology, human evolutionary conditions, and the way humans think more broadly.

00:00:25.880 And people might be like, wait, wait, what do you mean by that, right?

00:00:30.980 So if you see an impulse that exists across a broad breadth of the human population, but doesn't appear like it would have been selected for in an evolutionary context, like it wouldn't have increased the number of surviving offspring they had, you have found one of two things.

00:00:54.540 Either you have shown that you misunderstand the environmental context that humanity evolved in, and that something that seems like it would have been a maladaptive behavior was actually a positive behavior, which is very interesting if you find that.

00:01:12.280 But then the other thing that you may have found is you have found a way that the brain essentially breaks or a pathway doesn't work correctly, but doesn't work correctly in a way that happens over and over and over again in different humans.

00:01:28.980 Which tells you something about like, if trains keep flying onto a road at a certain point, you can tell broadly at least in one area where a train track is likely supposed to be, and like the speed of trains on that train tracks and where trains are turning on that train track.

00:01:47.920 Now, this becomes especially interesting in the world of fetishes and paraphilias, because this is a very common area where you see something that is very clearly a hard-coded biological instinct in individuals cross-culturally.

00:02:05.820 Would you like to know more?

00:02:07.120 People will say, oh no, well this is all like modern internet stuff that's causing this, and we'll get into that argument in a second.

00:02:13.420 Well, I can get into it right now. It's just very obviously not. If you look in a historic context, most of the paraphilias you see today, like sadism and stuff like that, you're going to see in like the Marquis de Sade, for example, which was definitely in a pre-internet context.

00:02:29.240 Or you see in the British vice, which was a so common fetish among British people, they called it the British vice, which was men who liked being spanked by paddles by women. 0.83

00:02:39.720 Here is James Joyce writing about farts. 0.99

00:02:42.740 Big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks, and a lot of tiny little naughty farties, ending in a large gush from your hole. 0.98

00:02:51.820 I think I could pick hers out in a room full of farting women. 1.00

00:02:55.320 It is a rather girlish noise, not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. 1.00

00:03:01.340 It is sudden and dry and dirty, like a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. 0.95

00:03:07.520 I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also. 1.00

00:03:15.640 So people will be like, oh, weird stuff like farting porn. 0.97

00:03:19.260 That's like from weird Brazilian farting. 1.00

00:03:21.480 No, this was around in the time of James Joyce.

00:03:24.280 So if you see a fetish today that is common, you will almost always see it in a historic context.

00:03:31.080 And today we are going to discuss the concept of monster girls.

00:03:37.200 Because monster girls and monster boys are something that you see pretty frequently in pornography and hentai.

00:03:45.940 However, it is also something that like doesn't really make sense from an evolutionary context.

00:03:52.620 Why would you be attracted to something that's not human and a person can go, oh, come on, this doesn't appear in historic stuff.

00:04:00.300 And I'm like, are you not familiar with your Greek myth?

00:04:03.820 Yeah, seriously.

00:04:04.720 If you talk about like the plurality of sex that happens in Greek myths.

00:04:09.180 The swans, the cows.

00:04:11.300 I would say like a good house or various monstrous creatures.

00:04:15.260 The fight.

00:04:15.660 Yeah, or people are like, well, but it didn't happen in the medieval period.

00:04:20.060 And I'm like, you are clearly not familiar with medieval fairy tales or medieval sort of folk horrors.

00:04:27.880 You know, it was actually.

00:04:29.420 Folk horrors?

00:04:30.680 Folk horrors.

00:04:32.360 Oh.

00:04:33.200 Incubuses, succubuses, stuff like that. 0.99

00:04:35.480 They didn't look like humans.

00:04:36.740 They'd have like various animal body parts and stuff like that.

00:04:40.840 And people will be like, okay, well, how common is this stuff really?

00:04:44.080 So if you look at like.

00:04:45.520 Oh, yeah, like the folklore, like marrying a mermaid and a seal woman or whatever.

00:04:50.420 Yeah, so when we did stats on this, vampires, 21% of females consume erotic content tied to the 7% of males. 0.98

00:04:57.900 Werewolves, 14% of females, 2% of males.

00:05:01.220 An android, 7% of females, 8% of males.

00:05:04.540 An alien, 13% of females, 8% of males. 0.94

00:05:07.760 A dwarf, the fictional race, 8% of females, 7% of males.

00:05:11.900 A dwarf, the fictional race, 2% of females, 8% of males.

00:05:17.500 Goo people, 2% of females, 4% of males. 1.00

00:05:21.080 That's a deep cut.

00:05:22.300 Furries, 5% of each.

00:05:24.680 Half human, half animals, 7% females, 4% males.

00:05:30.120 7%?

00:05:31.340 I mean, wow.

00:05:33.000 Yeah.

00:05:33.580 So.

00:05:33.900 Are we talking half, like a horse, what are they called?

00:05:36.760 Horsemen?

00:05:37.520 Or half of them?

00:05:38.240 Yeah, so if you're like, oh, well, that's a small number.

00:05:41.460 Well, if you contrast those numbers with the numbers who, for example, consume erotic content with two men having sex.

00:05:47.420 Okay.

00:05:47.840 That's 21% of females and 7% of males. 0.99

00:05:50.660 So, it's about as common as watching, for example, gay male porn. 0.98

00:05:57.880 You know, some of this stuff. 0.98

00:05:58.740 Just, I don't know.

00:05:59.660 Like, in this, we should probably someday do a whole deep dive on the genre of yaoi in Japan, too.

00:06:07.880 Yaoi is boy love stuff.

00:06:10.000 Boy on boy, yeah. 0.99

00:06:10.620 Which is, and you can see what I think would surprise people, is the majority of people consuming man-on-man porn are women. 0.90

00:06:18.120 By more than double.

00:06:20.520 This is both straight and lesbian identifying women. 0.70

00:06:23.120 Of course, we argue that women don't really exist on the Kinsey scale. 1.00

00:06:26.980 They exist on a dominant submission scale.

00:06:29.120 But people can look at our book on sexuality if they want to read more on this.

00:06:33.120 But this brings us back to the question of monster women, right? 0.98

00:06:37.900 Okay.

00:06:38.260 What could be causing this?

00:06:40.280 So, you can come up with a few hypotheses.

00:06:42.800 Maybe this was about, and this is sort of how science is done, right?

00:06:48.140 Like, if people are like, how do you do sort of gentleman science in your book?

00:06:50.980 So, you could say, well, maybe it's correlated with, like, a village was raided or something like that.

00:06:58.860 Okay.

00:06:59.100 And so, you would see the raiders as monstrous but need to be attracted to them to be able to survive the raid, right?

00:07:07.600 And it's like, well, if that's the case, then you are likely to see two things.

00:07:13.740 One is a cross-correlation between this and masochism.

00:07:17.420 And this is more prominent dramatically in females than males.

00:07:24.500 But this does not explain, therefore, monster girls.

00:07:27.820 Well, no, it could explain.

00:07:29.260 But the problem is that if monster boys were more common than monster girls, this would explain that.

00:07:34.280 Exactly.

00:07:35.040 The problem is that that's not what you see outside of something like vampires.

00:07:39.760 But vampires don't really look particularly different from humans.

00:07:42.700 And so, they probably falls more into just pure dominant submission stuff.

00:07:47.560 Yeah.

00:07:47.880 Which would fit into this system.

00:07:49.940 But you don't see the cross-correlation between these attractiveness and other attractiveness.

00:07:54.040 So, then you're like, okay, okay, okay, great.

00:07:55.600 Back to the drawing board.

00:07:56.760 Well, let's look at some other things that appear where a human appears to have non-human body proportions.

00:08:05.040 Okay?

00:08:05.380 Oh, like really tiny women and really big women? 0.99

00:08:07.860 Really tiny women. 1.00

00:08:08.540 Or it could be women with giant breasts. 1.00

00:08:11.580 Disproportionate, yeah. 0.98

00:08:12.220 So, let's see if I can find that on the chart here.

00:08:15.860 Okay. 0.99

00:08:16.300 So, a good example here would be a giant penis, longer than two feet, 7% of women, 4% of men. 0.99

00:08:22.800 Giant breasts, larger than a quarter of total body weight, 4% of women, and 17% of men. 1.00

00:08:29.340 Wait.

00:08:29.640 So, normally I'm 125.

00:08:32.660 So, what's it?

00:08:33.880 Jesus.

00:08:35.400 That's a lot.

00:08:36.820 These are like, these are impossible for a normal human to have.

00:08:40.560 Well, no, people have gotten plastic surgery to do it.

00:08:44.020 Surgically implanted.

00:08:44.880 But they don't, when women have that, they do not look human. 1.00

00:08:48.640 They look deformed to a normal person.

00:08:51.700 But 17% of men are still consuming this content.

00:08:55.240 So, or you could say people who are amputees and stuff like that, or in some other way, don't look like a normal human would look.

00:09:01.980 But around that, didn't you argue in the book that this is more of a super-stimulist thing?

00:09:06.100 We'll get to that concept in a second.

00:09:08.940 I'm just describing hypotheses here.

00:09:10.700 Okay.

00:09:11.020 So, you actually do find a cross-correlation here.

00:09:13.320 And we didn't just find this cross-correlation in our data.

00:09:15.660 When Ayla ran the stats with a completely different data pool, she also found this cross-correlation here.

00:09:24.420 So, this verifies this hypothesis, that there is something where some humans have a looser bound on the human form when they find it attractive.

00:09:35.500 So, let's talk about how this could work and how we can verify if this is the way that it's working.

00:09:40.620 Okay.

00:09:41.140 So, super-stimuli are a very important concept when you are studying sexuality, okay?

00:09:46.600 So, a super-stimuli is like if you have a bird that evolved to sit on blue eggs, but there were never like giant blue rocks around its evolutionary environment.

00:09:57.140 It never had a pressure to not sit on something that was larger than its normal blue eggs or bluer than its normal blue eggs.

00:10:04.260 And so, if you put a giant blue rock next to it, it will always choose the rock over its own eggs.

00:10:08.880 This is just a very common thing you see throughout evolutionary biology.

00:10:13.440 And it makes sense as to why this would be a thing.

00:10:16.320 Yeah.

00:10:16.580 If X is good, X squared is better.

00:10:21.100 X squared is better, yeah.

00:10:22.500 So, with human sexual drives, well, males and females are both, to an extent, attracted to the average.

00:10:29.700 Like, if you were going to, like, pre-code them to breed with a thing that is likely to lead to offspring, you would pre-code them with, look for the things that gender differentiate males and females, and then target individuals who appear to have these traits.

00:10:44.600 These would be secondary sex characteristics.

00:10:47.080 So, with women, these would be breasts, butt, hips. 0.99

00:10:50.280 With men, this would be height, you know, male stature, muscle mass, yeah, et cetera.

00:10:57.460 So, and you do, and a deep voice, and you do see an attraction to these traits.

00:11:02.580 But what is more interesting is we didn't have super stimuli of these traits in our evolutionary environment.

00:11:11.900 We did not have women with supernormally large breasts in our evolutionary environment. 1.00

00:11:17.660 Well, I mean, unless they were, you know, some genetic abnormalities.

00:11:21.840 It's eased in some way or something like that, right.

00:11:24.000 But what I'm saying is it just didn't appear that much.

00:11:26.080 There was not an evolutionary reason for anyone within the population to evolve disgust to that trait.

00:11:36.280 Even though I, and most men, actually do reflexively feel disgust when they see a woman who looks non-human for her gender dimorphic anatomy.

00:11:48.400 Even something as, as I think some people would consider as small as, like, Caitlyn, or what's her name? 0.98

00:11:54.320 The Caitlyn Jenner's family member who has a giant butt? 1.00

00:11:57.480 No, they've reduced that. 0.99

00:11:59.180 Big butts are out. 1.00

00:12:00.540 Heroin chic is back in.

00:12:01.760 But yeah, Kim Kardashian.

00:12:03.600 Kardashian. 0.97

00:12:04.040 Like, I find her quite repulsive. 0.99

00:12:06.760 Like, at a visceral level, I find her repulsive.

00:12:09.660 Don't you think that's cultural? 1.00

00:12:10.960 Because you go to Miami, you see giant asses and women wearing ass-padding underwear to try to create the result of that. 1.00

00:12:16.980 No, this culture affects what you find attractive much less than you would think. 0.97

00:12:20.520 Well, then why is there so much difference between the body type that you see pervasive among higher status women or, we'll say, image-conscious women in Miami versus Los Angeles versus New York?

00:12:30.640 This appears to be an evolutionary thing.

00:12:32.560 Well, okay, so I guess I can get into this because we do go into this in our books.

00:12:36.280 The core thing that differentiates, so with men, you're going to be attracted to, there's sort of two ideal feminine traits that you could be attracted to. 1.00

00:12:45.200 Youth or female dimorphism. 0.93

00:12:46.700 Yes, you could be optimizing for fertility window, or you could be optimizing for, I'm absolutely certain this is a woman.

00:12:55.440 You can never be too careful.

00:12:56.800 Well, these two sets of optimization functions actually require you to optimize around different traits.

00:13:05.340 Yeah. 0.98

00:13:05.640 Because the traits that are associated with youth in women are smaller breasts and a smaller butt. 0.99

00:13:11.400 So you are actually optimizing for almost the exact opposite thing.

00:13:15.480 So who optimizes within a monogamous culture for fertility windows over ensuring that the person is a woman? 1.00

00:13:22.800 It is somebody with access to high resources.

00:13:25.500 And behold, in our data, we see this.

00:13:28.480 I mean, it's a huge difference.

00:13:29.960 We have a video where we go over this in more detail, but it's like 10-fold or 20-fold increase in liking this, you know, flat justice body type for wealthy men versus the poorest groups have been.

00:13:42.560 But you also see this just, I mean, if you're looking, like, you don't see people like, you know, Elon or Bill Gates or something like that dating these women who look like super, super, super feminine.

00:13:56.480 Instead, the women that you see them dating is, are often very wealthy. 1.00

00:14:01.840 More androgynous looking because they look so young.

00:14:03.700 More androgynous looking, yeah.

00:14:04.540 Whereas when you see wealthy men date these women, they are wealthy men who appear to have an extreme level of status anxiety, which shows that, like, biologically, they don't see themselves as wealthy.

00:14:15.240 Trump would be a good example of this.

00:14:16.720 If you look at the way that he accessorizes in the lifestyle he lives in when he's been to Mar-a-Lago or something like that, there is clearly a fairly large level of status anxiety there, which is likely driving his reproductive choices that make his reproductive choices much more similar to a lower economic status.

00:14:34.620 Which ultimately made him a man of the people.

00:14:36.640 He's a poor man's idea of a rich man, even in his own mind, because of that anxiety.

00:14:40.900 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:41.680 No, absolutely.

00:14:42.180 So that's why you're getting that, okay?

00:14:45.360 But let's go back to, and by the way, you can look at cross-cultural. 0.99

00:14:49.220 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:14:50.020 Okay, so you're saying that big asses are a thing in Miami because they're poor. 1.00

00:14:58.280 Well, because they're poor and there's more status anxiety. 0.99

00:15:00.820 Yeah. 0.73

00:15:01.000 Where do you see these giant butts? 1.00

00:15:02.920 Where do you see them?

00:15:03.640 In the highest status anxiety environments in the world, Miami and LA.

00:15:06.720 That's interesting.

00:15:07.540 And also why I think you see the PDA, you know, the PDA files appear disproportionately was in elite circles.

00:15:16.000 There actually is a higher rate of PDA files in those communities.

00:15:19.880 But now back to Monster Girls. 1.00

00:15:21.720 So humans appear to have a secondary system that overlaps their attraction system that's meant to prevent them from having sex with non-human things that are non-efficacious in terms of sex with them, could lead to diseases, and blah, blah, blah, right?

00:15:41.900 So how do they determine non-human things?

00:15:44.260 It's likely that there is a level of innate disgust that your average programmed human has to things that look sufficiently different from the average human form.

00:15:57.580 And this is why your average human has a level of disgust to things like bestiality, to things like, you know, extreme breast size and stuff like that.

00:16:09.980 However, you could call it deformity, deformity.

00:16:15.360 Well, it appears that certain ways of altering a body do not count or do not trigger this instinct in a large portion of the population.

00:16:27.880 So first, let's talk about the huge chunk of the population, which is a fairly big chunk, that does not appear to have this disgust reaction.

00:16:36.080 The boob guys. 0.99

00:16:36.780 You know, 17% of men who are still into enormously large boobs, or what was it, women, penises over two feet. 0.99

00:16:43.320 That, I don't understand. 0.99

00:16:45.940 Okay, yeah.

00:16:47.040 7% of women, okay. 1.00

00:16:49.060 So if you have 100 women, seven of them will have consumed erotic material that consume this, that portray this.

00:16:56.120 So, what's going on in these individuals?

00:16:58.920 Well, if you have any of these systems, in the same way that our predominant arousal system sometimes breaks, right?

00:17:04.800 Like, sometimes men are predominantly aroused by male characteristics in their partners, i.e., gay people.

00:17:11.540 Sometimes women are aroused by female characteristics in their partners. 1.00

00:17:15.120 Like, clearly, evolution wasn't strongly sorting for this.

00:17:18.560 You know, you're just getting a broken system.

00:17:20.740 Sometimes individuals, you know, you see it get turned on by feces, right?

00:17:25.320 Like, this is clearly something that's meant to create, in an evolutionary context, a disgust reaction.

00:17:31.360 So what it means is there's two ways this disgust system can break.

00:17:34.820 One is it just doesn't activate at all. 0.96

00:17:39.060 These are the individuals who I think are mostly in generally large but not monstrously large breasts or generally large, like, the two-fit penis and stuff like that, right?

00:17:49.440 Like, these are individuals who are interested in something that is outside the normal bounds but isn't, like, specifically stimulating the system.

00:17:56.220 Then there's another thing that appears to happen in arousal patterns, which is that arousal and disgust get flipped because we argue in great detail in our book that arousal and disgust are actually the same system.

00:18:09.520 When you are aroused by something, your eyes dilate, you breathe in, you look at it longer, you want to get closer to it.

00:18:15.340 When you are disgusted by something, your pupils contrast, you hold your nose or you hold your breath to not smell, and you instinctively look away and try to get away from the thing.

00:18:25.160 It's just the same system with a negative modifier.

00:18:28.200 And anything that causes an innate disgust within some portion of the population will be a fetish for some other percent of the population.

00:18:35.620 And people are like, well, everything's a fetish.

00:18:37.600 No, that is not true.

00:18:38.740 That is just patently wrong.

00:18:40.580 If you take things that don't cause disgust but are tied to other innate human impulses, like a fear of heights or a fear of fire, for example,

00:18:49.500 there is not a community or at least a large community consummate with the, you know, insects or poo or farts tied to something like fire arousal or falling from high locations arousal.

00:19:04.480 So it's not just like all of your systems can break in this way.

00:19:07.300 It is one system.

00:19:09.140 And it's the same with arousal patterns.

00:19:10.720 Anything that can arouse a population is going to disgust a subset of that population.

00:19:15.900 Well, you can also get an inverse system where the thing that's supposed to identify things that look inhuman ends up accidentally arousing a small portion of the population instead of disgusting them.

00:19:28.020 And this is what I think leads to full-on bestiality and stuff like that.

00:19:31.320 But then there's a second category here, which I would call like the cat girl phenomenon.

00:19:36.500 A cat girl, a monster girl in this world? 0.98

00:19:39.360 No, not exactly.

00:19:40.780 I think it's arousing a different system.

00:19:42.740 Because that what I mean is if you look at the popularity of this stuff in anime.

00:19:46.700 So I would categorize there are a few anatomical differences which do not appear to trigger the this is inhuman.

00:19:55.240 I now generate disgust.

00:19:56.860 Fluffy ears are just cute.

00:19:59.060 So, yeah, there's a few that don't appear to broadly generate this.

00:20:03.320 Now, in some humans they do, but broadly.

00:20:05.480 Sharp teeth don't appear to.

00:20:07.760 The vampire thing is really, really big in the population.

00:20:11.040 Especially if it's just the canines.

00:20:13.320 Yes.

00:20:13.840 Different colored eyes, different shaped eyes don't appear to trigger this.

00:20:18.280 Fair.

00:20:18.660 Different colored hair doesn't appear to trigger this.

00:20:21.380 So hair that is like anime hair.

00:20:23.980 Let's go there, okay?

00:20:25.020 Another thing that doesn't appear to trigger it is small cosmetic modifications such as tail, ear differences.

00:20:35.000 Those sorts of things don't seem to broadly trigger this.

00:20:38.240 A great example here would be elf ears slash Vulcan ears on girls. 1.00

00:20:42.900 I have seen so many guys thirst after elf slash Vulcan girls. 0.98

00:20:47.440 And then another one that's really interesting if you're going to stretch is broadly if you're dealing with a biped with breasts or a T-shaped male figure like human, female, male, human secondary sex characteristics for either males or females.

00:21:03.760 For a large but smaller portion of the population, this also doesn't seem to trigger this monster girl.

00:21:09.220 Basically, fursonas.

00:21:11.600 Well, fursonas I think goes a little far.

00:21:14.020 Here I'm thinking more like Lola Bunny, for example.

00:21:17.200 Oh, okay.

00:21:19.640 This is something that I think is broadly like if someone's like, I thought Lola Bunny was hot.

00:21:23.940 Like, you're not going to get a lot of people being like, yeah, Lola Bunny was not hot at all.

00:21:28.100 Yeah.

00:21:28.660 They're like, okay, yeah, that was clearly sexualized and meant or designed to be unarousing characters.

00:21:36.520 So why wasn't it triggering these?

00:21:39.020 Here we're going back to evolution again.

00:21:41.880 Okay.

00:21:43.320 Because we can actually see the genetic results of this arousal pattern being mainstream within specific populations.

00:21:51.000 So if you look at regions of the world where you have a high degree of mate selection, either because there were periods where all the women died pretty frequently, or even more common when all of the men died pretty frequently, but you see this in either area, you begin to get the evolution of monstrous traits.

00:22:14.100 Traits that you do not see in default human populations.

00:22:18.380 Oh, what, just because of inbreeding?

00:22:20.040 No, because people tend to select for people with extremely novel traits.

00:22:27.760 In a society with no cat girls, this shows that the cat girl might be considered uniquely attractive. 0.99

00:22:33.880 In a society where nobody had like naturally occurring pink eyes or something like that, the one individual with pink eyes or skin or something like that might be considered uniquely attractive.

00:22:43.720 Okay.

00:22:44.100 And you can say, what are you talking about these monstrous traits that appear almost nowhere in human populations except for areas that underwent very strict genetic selection over a long period of time?

00:22:56.740 Well, the reason you don't notice them is the populations that had them have dominated the globe.

00:23:04.460 Oh, like redheads or something? 1.00

00:23:06.400 Redheads exist almost nowhere outside of extremely cold regions. 1.00

00:23:12.320 In fact, not just redheads, any human hair color but black is incredibly rare if you're talking about the broad initial ethno groups that would have existed in the world that would have evolved out of the initial human sample size and you go back a thousand years ago.

00:23:33.600 The populations that had non-black hair only lived really in arctic regions.

00:23:41.820 Yeah, and the world also is a lot colder to your point.

00:23:44.780 Another trait is, and they're like, what are you talking about pink eyes?

00:23:48.860 No one would select that.

00:23:50.320 You are forgetting that all eyes other than brown eyes are actually an incredibly rare trait if you go a thousand years ago.

00:23:58.880 And only really existed in arctic environments where you had extreme levels of mate selection.

00:24:05.640 And then people are like, well, different skin colors.

00:24:08.840 Gingers basically have a unique skin tone with their extreme level of freckling. 0.99

00:24:15.280 This would have been considered if you took one of them and put them in ancient Rome.

00:24:20.400 They would not be particularly dissimilar to an ancient Roman than to us a person with pronounced canines would look or a person with cat ears or a person with a tail would look.

00:24:34.780 In terms of that subtle standing out.

00:24:35.840 Still human but different human.

00:24:37.220 Yeah, a subtle but standing out actually wins the genetic lottery when you are dealing with a really high level of sexual selection, determining which genes win and which genes lose.

00:24:52.860 So we do actually have real monster girls among us. 1.00

00:24:59.260 They are called gingers. 0.98

00:25:01.260 Oh my God.

00:25:03.100 Or women with green eyes or blue eyes or. 1.00

00:25:06.760 Yeah.

00:25:07.220 Possibly blondes too. 1.00

00:25:10.700 Natural blondes. 1.00

00:25:11.260 So what are your thoughts on.

00:25:12.340 So the Dallas blonde, which is classically a woman who's not naturally blonde. 1.00

00:25:18.000 They just dye her. 1.00

00:25:18.940 They dye their hair blonde.

00:25:20.760 Is essentially trying to be a monster girl. 1.00

00:25:24.160 Well, no.

00:25:25.420 I mean, I'd even say more than that.

00:25:26.980 The girl who dyes her hair blue or something like that in order to appear unique and quirky is a modern version of this.

00:25:35.840 And if people are like, come on, sexual selection, selecting for non-human like traits in an individual or slightly non-human like traits.

00:25:44.920 Even in environments where they didn't evolve this, they adopted this culturally.

00:25:50.800 Think about the mini African tribes that adopted rituals, which turned their body into slightly non-human. 1.00

00:25:59.740 Oh, like elongated necks or.

00:26:02.080 Giant loop earrings or giant things in their cheeks.

00:26:05.600 Now, when I see these women, I actually get the same form of disgust that I would get from looking at an actual monster, like something that is genuinely non-human. 0.97

00:26:13.080 So I assume that they likely co-evolved with a damped down form of that repulsion selection in their cultural groups.

00:26:21.380 Which could mean that if you were to do studies on these populations, you would find much more attractive to things like monster girl type pornography.

00:26:32.760 That is fascinating.

00:26:34.880 I really like this hot take.

00:26:36.760 Well, and here it gets more interesting.

00:26:38.640 Okay.

00:26:38.900 So if you look at cultures that deviate from normal human forms, think golden lotuses, for example. 0.99

00:26:48.000 Oh, you mean like Chinese foot binding?

00:26:50.520 Foot binding, yeah.

00:26:51.740 Here, you see this in a culture that valued extreme levels of femininity. 0.96

00:26:55.760 And what you have there is a gender dimorphic trait, foot size, that is being created at an extreme level.

00:27:03.860 Yeah, someone was in a woman having extreme plastic surgery to have large breasts. 1.00

00:27:08.680 Yes.

00:27:09.360 I mean, another version of that.

00:27:11.220 Yeah.

00:27:12.340 From childhood with intense pain.

00:27:14.640 I guess also having large breasts is probably intensely painful. 1.00

00:27:18.220 Wow. 0.97

00:27:19.600 Yikes.

00:27:20.520 And so this is all that people are like, why does all of this matter from human?

00:27:25.880 Well, when you understand things like that what arouses you is based on gated metrics with a discussed in arousal system that are likely the same system, which work was in certain windows.

00:27:36.720 One, you can better control your own involuntary arousal pathways by contextualizing them as what they are, random switches in your head at birth.

00:27:49.540 When you contextualize them as like weird addictions and stuff like that due to, you know, things you were exposed to on the internet, then you relate to them as an addiction.

00:28:00.620 And the thing is, is people rarely win against addictions.

00:28:03.900 When you relate to them as just a standard like switch thing that happened at birth, then you can more easily be like, oh yeah, I'm just going to choose to ignore that.

00:28:11.940 Like other things I choose to ignore that I, like, for example, when I am around a friend or something like that, and they have a hot wife, like I am pre-evolved to want to sleep with or hit on their wife, but I choose not to hit on them.

00:28:25.720 I don't view that as like an addiction or something.

00:28:28.460 I'm just like, yeah, I choose not to find that person arousing.

00:28:31.500 I choose not to hit on them.

00:28:33.000 When you understand these systems and contextualize them for what they really are, it's much easier to not have them influence you.

00:28:42.560 And so if you have any paraphilias, which most people have, if people are like, oh, that person has a fetish, how weird.

00:28:50.480 I'm like, actually, if you look at the data, if you have no fetishes, you are the weird one that you are in a vast minority. 0.70

00:28:56.380 I can't remember if it was like 8% of people have like no fetishes at all in our data set.

00:29:00.020 Like you are the weirdo if you have no fetish.

00:29:02.980 It is not the people with a fetish who are weird.

00:29:05.100 Which I just want to clarify, because, you know, anyone looking at Ayla's stats is going to see the vanilla stuff is obviously the most popular. 0.85

00:29:11.820 You very well are probably going to be aroused by most of the vanilla stuff and then also have these fetishes.

00:29:18.600 Yeah, yeah, no specific fetish is weird, but understanding how these work, and we could do other videos.

00:29:25.580 And we've done some videos in our early videos if you've only watched our recent podcast, because, you know, we went over some of our theories from our sexuality book and more recent stuff.

00:29:32.540 I mean, and some of the early stuff that we did.

00:29:34.720 You can get a deeper dive on some of these topics.

00:29:37.260 But knowing about this doesn't just help you, but also being able to teach your kids about how human sexuality actually works prevents them from contextualizing things that they don't have control over.

00:29:51.920 It's either shameful or worse than that, because if it's shameful, then they hide it, overindulge in it.

00:29:58.460 You see this in the statistics.

00:29:59.540 When people think a portion of their sexuality is shameful, they actually indulge in it more than when they don't.

00:30:03.740 Yeah.

00:30:04.860 But worse than that, they think it's something they can't talk to their parents about, so they see themselves as discriminated for it, and then they begin to contextualize it as part of their identity.

00:30:13.880 Yeah.

00:30:14.300 The very most dangerous thing is that your kids grow up not understanding how human sexuality works, and then they begin to categorize some paraphilia that they have as a portion of their identity, and then their core identity becomes something like furry or, you know, whatever, right?

00:30:32.100 Yeah, way worse.

00:30:33.260 I mean, yeah, they're very high-profile examples of religiously very conservative families having certain members do terrible things, probably because they weren't, yeah, given context, given a way to understand what they felt and what they were tempted to do.

00:30:49.520 So they just...

00:30:51.120 Exactly.

00:30:52.000 Oh, boy.

00:30:53.020 Yeah.

00:30:53.320 Well, you know, truth is the purifying light that burns away our genetic scars in pre-programming.

00:31:04.020 When you study this stuff, knowledge burns away temptation and sin more than hiding from something.

00:31:14.360 When you hide from something, when you make it magic or addiction or something like that, you give it power.

00:31:21.440 When you say it just is what it is, a genetic scar, crossed wires, it is much easier to work around than when you don't.

00:31:33.980 And this stuff can become a huge problem if you miscontextualize it and somebody happens to have one of the really damaging one of these.

00:31:39.320 Like the sadists who think that sadism is actually a part of their personality.

00:31:43.880 Or the PDA files who think that that is actually a core aspect of their identity.

00:31:49.400 And that leads to incredibly immoral action.

00:31:52.740 Yeah.

00:31:54.680 Yeah.

00:31:55.420 It's...

00:31:55.880 Yeah.

00:31:56.440 I'm really glad that...

00:31:58.080 I mean, we've already ruined sex for our kids, thank goodness, you know, because we talk about it way too openly and they're going to hate that.

00:32:04.440 And so they're probably going to be virgins until their mid-20s, but I'm glad...

00:32:09.440 I'm glad they're virgins their whole life if they want to be, so long as they have kids that are genetically theirs. 0.99

00:32:13.980 Yeah.

00:32:17.220 For non-sex negative people, we're so surprisingly not...

00:32:21.440 We're pretty sex negative.

00:32:23.680 We are sex... 0.99

00:32:25.580 We are open to sexual investigation, but I would think most people reading our book would say, you know, I say objectively, human sexuality is pretty disgusting. 0.98

00:32:32.740 Yeah. 0.94

00:32:32.960 Even vanilla straight sexuality, people are like, no, in a loving marriage, it's like, no, it's gross. 0.97

00:32:38.260 Just the sounds of sex.

00:32:41.720 If you removed your pre-coded addiction to, like, pre-coded predilection for these behaviors, and you think about them like you think about anything else...

00:32:51.200 In isolation, yeah, then it's like...

00:32:53.320 These are like oozing organs, like, you know...

00:32:56.340 But I mean, also when you think about other very basic human functions like eating, and, you know, you think about...

00:33:01.960 And you contextualize it in that context, it also helps you understand that, you know, this is just sort of a pre-coded thing into you, but it doesn't define who you are.

00:33:11.520 It's an accident in your evolution.

00:33:12.780 Well, and similar to eating, right?

00:33:13.940 You know, it's...

00:33:14.660 We have a language and we have a means of explaining to people that you may really like this one type of food, but it's not good for you, and that doesn't define you.

00:33:23.940 You know, you're not a whatever type of food person, whereas with sexuality, unfortunately, it has been turned into this identity thing, which seems to be even worse now.

00:33:33.660 So, I don't know.

00:33:36.260 This was fascinating, Malcolm.

00:33:37.540 I'm so glad we...

00:33:38.160 Because I didn't know what we were getting into with this.

00:33:39.780 I was like, Monster Girls, where are we going to go here?

00:33:43.180 But man, we went down a lot of...

00:33:44.720 I was listening to the Monster Girl rap, which I'll play after this, and you should go check out the guy who makes the videos.

00:33:49.980 Because we added one after the Tomboy Apocalypse video, one of his songs, which is also fun.

00:33:54.740 But yeah, I absolutely love you, Simone, and I am so honored to be married to you, because you are my fetish. 0.95

00:34:04.940 I'm gay for you, Malcolm. 0.62

00:34:06.460 I don't know why it is that I find you sexy and nothing else, but I'm glad we found each other.

00:34:12.340 We're weirdly compatible.

00:34:15.380 Oh, it's great.

00:34:17.400 All right.

00:34:17.740 All right, guys.

00:34:18.440 Have a wonderful day.

00:34:19.560 And remember, the things that arouse you and your gender are not your identity.

00:34:25.140 They are accidents of evolution.

00:34:28.060 Over-focusing on them in terms of your identity will lead to immoral behavior.

00:34:32.380 And if you end up over-focusing on them with your children, it makes them very susceptible to gender and sexuality cults.

00:34:40.900 And a lot of cults use sexuality, even sexual shame.

00:34:42.860 I mean, this is how the eight-passenger situation started, really, was this woman who started it, who roped in the mom, 0.95

00:34:48.500 that had a thing where, basically, she kept trying to brainwash people by convincing them they had porn addictions. 1.00

00:34:53.360 Yeah, and by porn addiction, it was like, you've looked at porn.

00:34:56.880 You've looked at porn, yeah.

00:34:59.120 Which, welcome to humanity.

00:35:00.980 I don't know what kind of world she came from, but... 1.00

00:35:04.300 Well, I think that she learned that she could use that on any man, because she was from Mormon culture.

00:35:09.560 And so when she was trying to get something over on them, she could broadly assume that any man, 0.68

00:35:13.520 even if they're Mormon, has consumed some amount of porn. 0.99

00:35:15.840 And then just say, I know you're a sinner, even if you don't know you're a sinner. 1.00

00:35:19.080 And all your behavior comes from porn. 0.98

00:35:21.840 And therefore, you know, then use that to build a knowledge hierarchy over them.

00:35:28.560 Well, and a wedge, specifically, between them and their wives, which is terrifying.

00:35:36.520 All right.

00:35:37.120 Love you, Simone.

00:35:37.980 I love you, too.

00:35:38.740 I love you, too.

Based Camp - June 10, 2024

Monster Girls & Evolutionary Biology (Are Gingers Monster Girls？)

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