Based Camp - New Arguments Against Caring About Fertility Collapse From Philosophy Tube

00:00:00.000 hello simone we are going to talk about a number of things on this podcast one of the first we're

00:00:05.680 going to go into is going to be philosophy tube the famous trans youtuber did a big piece

00:00:12.160 on why falling fertility rates aren't actually an issue at all and watching her felt like being

00:00:20.160 spoken down to by an hour from somebody from the capital and the hunger games

00:00:25.040 like i'm in one of the districts now before we begin we have a very special film brought to you

00:00:31.760 all the way from the capital fewer babies aging populations the strain on the economy as humankind

00:00:40.840 collides with nature it's all overblown a moral panic that was had by previous generations whose

00:00:47.980 mistakes we are repeating the thing is also like in america if you are a teenager and you have

00:00:53.700 republican parents and keep in mind like teenagers are not even that republican you have an 81 chance

00:00:58.900 of being republican yeah if you have democratic parents it's a 89 chance of being democratic

00:01:03.460 well what this means unfortunately for her is she is preaching to her audience to basically sterilize

00:01:11.440 a community that it only benefits us that is being sterilized but another trend we're going to talk

00:01:16.820 about is this difference in in conservative and progressive fertility rates is actually increasing

00:01:22.000 and the speed at which it's increasing is speeding up no really people like her um but as a side note here

00:01:30.720 despite me appreciating what she did i like simone you tried to watch it too right like it was bad

00:01:37.920 what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things i have ever heard

00:01:43.680 at no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered

00:01:52.640 a rational thought everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it may god have mercy on your

00:02:00.880 soul watched the whole thing from start to finish and could not i must had before i met you i would have

00:02:11.040 assumed that it was because i was too dumb and i couldn't follow the argument having now met you

00:02:16.400 and and gained a little bit more self-respect i think a lot of it was broadly incoherent it ends with

00:02:23.120 her a trans woman taking a pregnancy test i mean i think it's all dramatization obviously but like

00:02:30.640 i mean i know it's some kind of in joke too or not in joke but whatever or it might be some sort of

00:02:36.160 like sexualized role play as we mentioned one of the very common things for trans people is to violate

00:02:40.400 other people's consent and bring them into their fetishes no no at the end of it no it's more like

00:02:45.600 a political statement because at the end of it she fakes some kind of emotional distress and then says she

00:02:51.840 needs a tea break but then the camera follows her walking nervously toward a bathroom and then goes into

00:02:57.840 the bathroom on which for the sake of filming this video and dramatization they put a whole lot of like

00:03:03.360 natal females only like women only bathroom not no trans bathroom goes into the bathroom takes a

00:03:09.600 pregnancy test comes out it's a positive pregnancy test next episode has to discuss whether it's worth

00:03:16.320 it to bring a life into this horrible world in the first place you know it's all a plot device but i'm

00:03:20.800 also just like not getting the she wants to have a trans abortion that's fantastic you mean i'll never

00:03:28.480 know what it feels like to have a baby growing inside me and then scramble its brains and vacuum

00:03:32.640 it out that's literally what she said kill that fetus the other get that fetus kill that fetus

00:03:42.240 the other thing that you were telling me which i thought was wild here but it's it's it's that you

00:03:48.880 said that she dressed in drag dressing like a cis male and you were like she was way more attractive

00:03:53.920 and good-looking i'm a traveling petrol salesman i meet all sorts of people and do you know the

00:03:59.440 healthiest and happiest are always the ones with children i remember when my daughter was born

00:04:08.720 it was the happiest day of my life it's hard being a single father especially when you're on the road all

00:04:17.280 the time you're the sort of person who's too intelligent to be taken in by the lying press i

00:04:22.320 mean why do you suppose are they praising this poor confused individual now i know we're not supposed to

00:04:31.040 say that it's not kind is it not orthodox but it's worth asking the question he looked great he looks well

00:04:41.200 yeah i mean it's interesting it is interesting yeah no but the reason why i always mention the

00:04:47.600 trans people often looking like they're from the capital in the hunger games eyes right chins up smiles

00:04:53.600 on is because i think it shows the fundamental truth of the left is that they say they're the third

00:05:00.880 party of the working class and yet they platform these people who dress and act in a way that is clearly

00:05:07.040 designed to specifically insult the the working class right i'm a traveling petrol salesman to show

00:05:14.640 a level of purposeless luxury that you would only engage in if your goal was for everyone around you

00:05:23.760 to know i am not like you i am different than you i am of a separate class than you that deserves

00:05:30.160 different rights and different resources and different statuses in society so the first thing we're

00:05:35.920 going to go over here is grass and the first graph here is one from the financial times and for the

00:05:42.320 love of god i cannot find what article this comes from because the one that i think it would come from

00:05:45.840 it doesn't seem to come from but his birth rates are falling more steeply among progressives and

00:05:50.000 conservatives and what you'll note about these graphs is that the numbers are really high i don't

00:05:54.160 know why the numbers seem high on on both like they would argue that the conservative fertility rate

00:05:59.120 right now in the united states is 2.4 and that the progressive fertility rate is 1.8 and there is

00:06:05.760 no way that that's the case hold on let me look at this graph because i don't think it's that it's

00:06:11.520 because it's calculated for adults 35 plus and maybe looking at like older individuals or something

00:06:16.800 like that i'm not sure exactly but the point being is that what you see is if we project these onto

00:06:23.440 realistic fertility rates i.e progressives are probably like 1.3 1.2 conservatives probably at

00:06:28.640 like 1.8 we're getting closer to conservatives just having double the fertility rate of progressives

00:06:35.200 and one of our fans did a study on this and this isn't just in the us they also show that this is

00:06:39.360 happening on a worldwide level here is that and and what's cool is conservative fertility rates are

00:06:45.680 are sort of they're they go down a bit but they're pretty close to stable if you look sort of post 2000

00:06:51.840 right well it's what you would expect and and again i point out the way a person votes even if

00:06:58.320 we drop all the genetic stuff which is really big is very similar to their parents and we're already

00:07:02.400 seeing and i'll be going over a study that showed that that they were already seeing this in europe was

00:07:08.160 was this leading to a more conservative voting pattern and this is one of the last things or that

00:07:14.880 charlie kirk tweeted was actually this graph the one that i just showed so like and he was like yeah

00:07:19.920 having kids is like a political duty right and i thought that was really interesting as well

00:07:24.240 but also he he said it in like a really nice and uplifting way and i i probably just said it in a

00:07:29.440 non-nice and uplifting way but it was it was this is going around right like conservatives are aware of

00:07:34.480 this and progressives are beginning to like some of them are trying to shout at other progressives hey

00:07:40.320 guys you need to take this seriously yeah and here we are which is so fun about this is i know that i can go

00:07:45.680 to progressives and i know i can preach to progressives and it just won't matter because

00:07:48.960 they so dehumanize you know the the the other side and here i'll play that string that i did from

00:07:54.640 tucker and dale versus forces of evil oh good look your friends are here hey you're supposed to want

00:08:00.080 to have children and this is your ultimate goal in life it is a very archaic idea an old idea and

00:08:06.800 representation of a woman so you you're getting people to sign a pledge basically saying that

00:08:18.960 they will not have children until the canadian government takes serious action on climate change

00:08:24.880 is that your blood well no no it's college kid blood and how many people have signed on so far

00:08:30.800 one thousand three hundred and eighty one as of right now i know what this is this is a suicide

00:08:36.720 pact oh my god that makes so much sense we have got to hide all of the sharp objects only i was born

00:08:42.480 with a vagina amen sister holy mother of god some kid he just hooked himself right into the wood chipper

00:08:55.040 what head first right into the wood chipper it looked like it might have been one of the college kids

00:08:59.760 because i i really do think that it's a good depiction of how like that movie itself of how

00:09:04.320 progressives see conservatives in this country um and even when we're trying to help them but

00:09:09.760 first we're going to go over the study so this is a study called demography leads to more conservative

00:09:15.040 european societies published in peer-reviewed journals from the abstract it says we have found

00:09:19.680 that in most of the countries analyzed right-wing conservative individuals have on average more

00:09:23.360 children and grandchildren than left-wing liberal individuals we also found that the proportion of

00:09:28.000 right-wing individuals increases from generation to generation no he then goes on like it's well

00:09:33.920 known that this stuff is heritable it's well known that people vote like their parents and we're seeing

00:09:39.040 a change i don't really need to go over that because you guys can probably guess that this is something

00:09:42.960 that i was surprised by and i want to dig deeper into but it's for another episode so here's a line

00:09:48.400 from it that might shock you israel differs from all other countries and that there is a pronouncing

00:09:54.720 people who may not be in the loop israel is the only developed country technologically productive

00:09:59.600 country with a really high fertility rate in that there is a pronounced reproductive advantage for

00:10:04.800 left-wing individuals huh and then they go over to say the average number of grandchildren is very high

00:10:12.800 more than 10 grandchildren for left-wing individuals and more than six for right-wing individuals interesting

00:10:19.120 hmm are there a lot of our jewish fans can tell us who live in israel because you got a lot of israeli

00:10:27.040 fans are there a lot of like haraidi like ultra religiously conservative but progressive individuals

00:10:33.280 in in israel i mean we do know that this happens among haraidi factions like mondomini was supported

00:10:39.680 who's like specifically anti-zionist supported the by the haraidi jews in new york right like the hasidic

00:10:47.280 jews in new york so maybe that's what we're seeing there and that's just messing with the data

00:10:51.920 now there were the financial times piece by a guy begging people like philosophy tube lady

00:10:57.680 why progressives should care about falling birth rates by the way if any of our fans want to get mad

00:11:02.880 at us correctly gendering this individual look it's their culture i do not think that this is something

00:11:07.920 that should be forced on people but me i'm not going to cause offense to somebody just for the sake

00:11:12.560 of causing offense and that i mean i just don't think it's nice to be mean for the sake of be mean

00:11:17.920 for their ideas be mean by saying things like i think it's it's really vile that they would

00:11:24.640 dress or act in a way that is sexualized and promote like the idea of this being in women's

00:11:29.680 bathrooms right recently there was this this clip that went viral of a black woman who had a guy which

00:11:34.800 she was naked in a woman's bathroom at a gym sit down next to her one of these people had made no

00:11:40.000 no no effort to transition at all who apparently had broken his wife's jaw

00:11:46.880 it came out from a like a violent guy who was pretending to be trans right today i was naked

00:11:55.280 in the locker room i turned around and there's a man there and boy like boy clothes lip gloss

00:12:02.720 standing there looking at me i'm butt naked so the first thing i think is maybe there's a

00:12:06.160 work doing here maybe i missed the sign i say the word sir to say sir what are you doing in here

00:12:11.200 he goes don't talk to me i'm a woman i have a right to be in here immediately i'm pissed because

00:12:17.120 i'm butt naked i feel violated i feel like weird like and this person is laying cover for people

00:12:23.840 like that in their videos and they should be ashamed and embarrassed that the but they they won't

00:12:28.720 be and they aren't or maybe they are and and a lot of this is coming from that they should be ashamed

00:12:32.880 to embarrass that they are a human darwin award right you know like they have to make all of

00:12:38.080 these ridiculous arguments because they made bad life decisions and now those bad life decisions are

00:12:42.800 coming to haunt them likely but anyway to continue here like those bad life decisions prevent them

00:12:47.520 forever acting in a way that you know now that we're seeing a moral mandate to reproduce among

00:12:53.120 different populations they can't participate in that and so they need to double down but anyway there was

00:12:58.000 an article in the financial times called why progressives should care about falling fertility rates

00:13:01.840 i'm just going to take a few sections from this because i thought it was pretty on cue here but

00:13:06.640 take a closer look at the evidence and it's less clear that the logic holds in fact it's possible

00:13:12.240 that seating the floor to the right on this issue progressives may themselves be ushering in a more

00:13:16.960 conservative less green future let's start with the environmentalist argument that falling birth

00:13:22.080 rates are good for the planet this may appear obviously true but the reality is less clear total

00:13:26.880 emission volumes are a function of two things the number of people emitting and how much each

00:13:31.360 person emits the former may be more palpable but the latter has vastly larger impact technological

00:13:37.360 progress and green policies have dramatically shrunk the average westerners carbon footprint over recent

00:13:42.480 decades meaning countries such as britain france and the u.s have steeply reduced their overall

00:13:48.240 emissions even as populations have climbed in japan however the retreat from clean nuclear energy after

00:13:54.560 the fukuyama disaster saw emissions rise even as birth rates were getting lower and so i'm going to put a

00:13:59.600 graph on screen here and you can you can see this even though the population is increasing in france

00:14:04.240 and germany and the uk during a period where it was increasing carbon emissions is dramatically reducing

00:14:09.440 whereas in japan where the population is going down carbon emissions is going up carbon emissions is

00:14:14.880 first and foremost about the productivity of a nation technological productivity of a nation

00:14:19.520 it is not just that innovation swamps demographics the two are linked countries with older populations are

00:14:25.840 generally less innovative and more conservative both of which can slow down the energy transition

00:14:30.640 and broader greenening of their economies and societies but not only that they will also be

00:14:34.960 more conservative in the future because conservatives have conservative children a striking public study

00:14:39.520 published this year by a group of u.s researchers comes to a similar conclusion at best falling

00:14:44.640 birth rates will have a negligible impact on global temperatures and come far too late to affect climate

00:14:51.040 goals at worst the effect is slow progress putting the planet on a dirtier warmer path this brings me

00:14:57.040 to the second part of the progressive population paradox recent studies find that the and then

00:15:02.080 that was a study we just went over that the less lack of concern over falling birth rates is likely

00:15:07.520 pushing societies in a more conservative direction expanding previous analysis of the interplay between

00:15:13.280 political ideology and family formation i find the assumption that birth rates are falling across

00:15:18.160 societies in general is not really true from the us and europe and beyond people who identify as

00:15:24.160 conservatives are having almost as many children as they did decades ago the decline is overwhelmingly

00:15:29.040 among the progressive left in effect nudging each successive generations politics further and further

00:15:34.240 to the right than it otherwise would have been this may ultimately mean more curtailing of individual

00:15:38.960 freedoms not less and i have here a link like even the ocd now is issuing guidelines about what

00:15:44.480 countries should do to deal with falling fertility rates so even like the ocd the oecd is like oh yeah

00:15:51.120 this is happening and you need to get more representative forms of democracy and stuff like that like

00:15:56.480 nothing to actually address the issue so they're they're they're pretending to prepare people for

00:16:02.800 nations for demographic collapse when really they're they're not addressing dependency ratio cascades at all

00:16:09.280 they're just talking about no they're just they're just like you're gonna have to

00:16:12.720 uh adjust your rates on this if we might do a separate episode on the oecd okay so they are

00:16:16.880 somewhat i mean because that is our fans do you actually want us to do a deep dive on oecd policy

00:16:22.880 on terms of fertility rates as it works cross-country to understand like just how unprepared these people

00:16:28.800 are it could be good but what i'm pointing out here more largely is there are a few progressives

00:16:34.800 who realize this but whenever they point this out at the beginning of philosophy tubes video

00:16:38.640 she actually didn't cover this guy she coverage that weird woman who is like fertility rates are an

00:16:44.720 issue and the the real problem is that we're not aborting enough black children like you know she

00:16:50.640 frames it in terms of black people's access to reproductive rights as she calls it like reproductive

00:16:56.800 yeah and i was like okay buddy but but philosophy tube comes right out the gate attacking a bunch of

00:17:02.800 progressives who want to care about this issue and so you can see as i have predicted you cannot be

00:17:08.800 centrist on this issue you cannot be leftist on this issue the top leftist voices will come at you

00:17:14.480 gunning and promote our larger value system in the process by eradicating leftists from the globe

00:17:20.560 but let's go into her actual arguments because i actually found them so stupid it was almost

00:17:24.800 fascinating i don't know if you felt that way when you were getting through them but the first here

00:17:29.440 argument that she made is the moral panic is historically recurring and overblown and she

00:17:35.040 talks about how in the 1920s and the 1940s we can find evidence of people panicking about this

00:17:40.800 well if you're not completely retarded and you had any historical understanding of fertility rates

00:17:48.720 you would be aware that in the 1920s and the 1940s a number of european countries fell below repopulation

00:17:55.760 rate they were freaking out for good reason then population rates begin to spike why did population

00:18:04.480 rates begin to spike you could go see we have an episode on this we have a couple episodes on this

00:18:08.720 but the the by far the biggest reason is a number of medical technologies came into existence that

00:18:15.280 changed it from about half of babies died before their first year of life to about no babies died in

00:18:21.920 their first year of life and surprise surprise the number of surviving babies about doubled it wasn't

00:18:27.600 that people were getting pregnant a lot more over most of the world now there were a few countries

00:18:32.640 that did have a fertility spike we have a video where we go over this for example you don't see

00:18:36.720 it in communist russia you don't but you do see it in communist china you don't see it in eastern

00:18:41.200 berlin or eastern austria one of our fans got this wrong they saw that austria wasn't split it was split

00:18:46.000 but you did see it in western austria and western you did see it across many of the allied countries

00:18:50.080 but not across the cowardly countries that slipped out of the war like ireland and spain

00:18:55.200 you know so like what what what caused this and a lot of it we argue is futurism and nationalism

00:19:00.320 right if you look at what people were consuming in the 1960s in the 1950s in terms of pop culture

00:19:06.320 it was a lot of sci-fi stuff a lot of like pop sci-fi that was like the main form of of narrative

00:19:11.280 that people loved back then and a lot of actualist stuff look at the american western craze during

00:19:16.640 that period cowboys and indians as you pointed out simone this is the reason why in old movies

00:19:22.400 you see a lot of kids in raccoon hats well i don't know daniel boone was like the the big star

00:19:27.920 of the united states project before sorry davy crockett before elvis and i learned this week and

00:19:34.640 wouldn't shut up about it around malcolm that so many kids wanted to buy a davy crockett style raccoon hat

00:19:41.360 and at the time they actually made them out of real raccoon pelts that they ran out of raccoon

00:19:46.720 pelts to give kids raccoon hats in the united states for a while amazing yep so so it was a real

00:19:54.480 issue during that period it was a real issue that was resolved by more nationalism i presume philosophy

00:20:01.280 tube doesn't want that and a technological advancement because what do they call nationalism they call it

00:20:06.960 fascism right a technological advancement see our video on why nationalism is awesome a techno you

00:20:12.880 should have pride in your nation and who you are right like what's wrong with these people if i went

00:20:17.360 to a mexican and it was like how dare you have pride in your mexican identity like what a horrible thing

00:20:21.840 to do and you're like well that's okay because mexicans aren't white and i'd be like actually that's

00:20:25.520 a super racist thing to say because there's a lot of white mexicans yeah mexican is not an ethnicity

00:20:31.840 it is mexico is just like the united states it's a country with a bunch of nationality yeah what are

00:20:36.880 you even talking about anyway but what i'm pointing out here is it would it really that they just want

00:20:41.440 to shame certain groups and not other groups but but but most of the way that europe got out of this

00:20:46.320 in the past was by the technological advancements that shut down the number of infants that were dying

00:20:51.120 and that is not a trick that we can pull again and i'm glad they did it i'm really really glad they did

00:20:56.560 but yes that's not it's a solution to a very different problem yeah because if we cut the

00:21:01.040 number of infant deaths by like 90 today it would like affect the amount of surviving infants by like

00:21:08.640 one or two percent because so few infants die so it's just not relevant okay next she argues demographic

00:21:16.400 decline is not necessarily economically harmful and then she goes on to saying declining populations

00:21:22.480 like japan's don't automatically lead to economic decline she says for example japan's population

00:21:28.800 has been shrinking for years yet it's the third largest economy and saw a gdp spike after the

00:21:33.520 population decline began and i'd be like whoa oh what like what pills are you taking here yes japan did

00:21:43.280 have a spike but broadly speaking japan has undergone one of the biggest periods of economic decline

00:21:51.120 and stagnation that any developed country has in human history that is correlated with its fertility

00:21:58.880 stagnation and collapse japan is the smoking gun of the horror that the rest of us may have to live

00:22:06.720 with do you know what working life is like in japan these days do you have any idea the existential

00:22:13.680 horror of the education system in japan to get you they've been able to like through their

00:22:19.280 abonomic solution i think we filmed an episode on this that you haven't run yet on how they addressed

00:22:24.960 their issue of out of control interest rates and everything and the the only reason why they've been

00:22:30.240 able to avoid insanely bad economic stagnation is because they have a really high savings rate and

00:22:36.080 it's just extremely disciplined other countries won't even be able to pull off the way japan is not

00:22:42.880 there's very little foreign debt in japan so a lot of people know that japan did a debt jubilee

00:22:47.200 what they don't know they basically just bought their own debt and started basically just bought

00:22:51.840 their own debt because they own their own debt and so they were able to do that other countries can't

00:22:56.240 pull that stupid little trick in the vast majority of countries declining populations mean declining

00:23:03.120 economies how a person so could be so absolutely brain dead to one not look into the specific case of

00:23:09.920 japan their case study which actually sort of proves a point but then to not be able to make the

00:23:17.040 simple understanding that if you have fewer people paying taxes and she could be like well what if what

00:23:22.160 if as fertility rates go down we become a more prosperous country right like i'd be like yeah that would be

00:23:28.720 good if the probability of like the amount that somebody pays in taxes is highly correlated with the

00:23:34.720 amount that their parents paid in taxes because it's highly correlated with the amount that they make

00:23:38.640 and nothing like literally nothing is more correlatory with the amount that you make as an adult

00:23:44.960 with the amount that your parents made as adults and the amount that you make is inversely correlated

00:23:50.720 at least in the united states with the amount of kids that you have okay you crazy crazy bastard

00:23:59.520 uh like it is all the evidence seems to indicate that not only will the economic productivity was in

00:24:09.280 most of the developed world decline but it will decline even faster than the population rate because

00:24:13.200 the population rate is crashing fastest within the economically productive sub factions of the

00:24:17.440 population oh my god okay next sorry any thoughts you have here simone by the way

00:24:23.680 i mean i would also point out though that i mean one of the reasons why the boomer generation was so

00:24:28.480 prosperous was because the economy was growing so much when we don't have that economic growth anymore

00:24:34.240 yeah and your generational wealth is is going to be i mean we're already seeing it now right with with

00:24:40.640 generations raised by boomers knowing that they're never going to see the level of prosperity or financial

00:24:46.080 security that their boomer parents had because the economy is in a very different position yeah all right so

00:24:52.320 to continue here the old age dependency ratio is an incomplete metric basically focusing on the old

00:25:00.320 age dependency ratio to predict collapse is misleading because this ratio ignores both like children who

00:25:07.600 are unproductive the disabled the unemployed and non-working groups this to me reminds me of when fat

00:25:14.160 people are like bmi is bad don't you know that like this bodybuilder would look obese by a bmi scale

00:25:22.320 and i'm like yeah but everybody knows that the bodybuilder is covered in muscle like yeah you

00:25:28.480 think that the people complaining about demographically led popular like like collapses in economic structures

00:25:35.040 are not aware that like the children also are a drain on the tax system and that the poor are also a drain

00:25:42.080 on the tax system i have pointed out you could solve the negatives from fertility collapse simply by

00:25:47.760 for example sterilizing everybody who makes a poverty level wage just because of the correlation

00:25:53.680 of their children with the parents and if you dramatically decrease the number of people who

00:25:57.680 required welfare you could redirect that money to the number of people who are old now that is a very

00:26:03.760 immoral solution i wouldn't promote it but that appears to be what she's promoting here saying that

00:26:08.960 there are other ways to fix this people over 65 she says often contribute productively through

00:26:14.560 caregiving volunteering and community involvement i just disagree this is a trend that's been going

00:26:19.520 down dramatically this used to be true that old people contributed to their local economies local

00:26:26.240 they helped with local child care they helped us but if you look at any current statistic on this

00:26:30.800 this has been declining over time not increasing over time and any sane person who is like broadly aware

00:26:36.720 of what our generation goes through in terms of child rearing knows that boomers are lazy terrible people

00:26:42.480 um it's just a common trope now that that boomer grandparents don't contribute obviously there are

00:26:50.560 notable exceptions and we have plenty of millennial friends that have moved just to be closer to

00:26:54.560 their parents because their parents are helping however it used to be very normative and now it's not

00:26:59.760 yeah so this is just like a comical thing to argue this i i genuinely can't believe that somebody like

00:27:06.400 wrote this into a script went on air and gave this to people and wasn't like wow i'm gonna look really

00:27:13.760 foolish well i think you know okay there are people who comment regularly on our videos and

00:27:18.480 who are like their journalism is shoddy they just ask ai a bunch of questions and i mean keep in mind

00:27:24.560 guys like one we're not journalists too this is you're basically watching like conversations between

00:27:29.760 a husband and wife about stuff they're reading online that they've chosen to make public like we never

00:27:34.240 pretended to be journalists and three we're publishing a video every day of the week now

00:27:39.200 okay like we don't have time weekends for our paid subscribers yeah that's what i mean every day of the

00:27:43.600 week philosophy tube has time to do the research philosophy tube does a video what like every three

00:27:50.960 months every two months or something yeah and and philosophy tube is is filming in a set which you see

00:27:57.200 in the video being felt like they're going to a a and we have two other jobs guys we have two other

00:28:04.720 jobs yeah this is this is what we do for fun you're watching our conversations as a husband and wife

00:28:09.120 again about stuff we read online and that we want to share with each other because we're nerds

00:28:13.040 we are not journalists and we never pretended to me so i just i want because people are going to be

00:28:17.520 like well okay that's hypocrisy i actually push back for very strong on you okay we are journalists we

00:28:24.320 are what the modern field of journalism has become um we do do things regularly journalists make mistakes

00:28:30.640 as well we do use a lot of ai for fact checking but the degree to which we use the ai for fact

00:28:36.720 checking depends on how much i care whether what i'm saying is actually true so if i for example am

00:28:42.320 making a comment about somebody's religion like this is what jews believe or this is what's in the bible

00:28:47.280 or this is what catholics believe i'm gonna be like really strict in my fact that's true and it's

00:28:51.600 about religion you're really really careful yeah someone recently cited where they're like

00:28:56.560 well he was saying james lindsey who everyone knows is not trustworthy and like we don't even

00:29:00.960 know who james lindsey is i know who james lindsey is we met him multiple times simon i don't even know

00:29:04.640 what you're going on about he's super famous anyway so i was here saying that that a and and james lindsey

00:29:11.120 has some very interesting takes he's kind of crazy but he has some interesting takes but anyway the

00:29:15.600 point here being is when it's something that i know doesn't actually matter to people's lives like

00:29:20.400 i'm talking about like the way hassan piker grew up or something i'm more likely to just trust the

00:29:25.040 first thing i get from ai but the the the larger point here being is i like the the amount i use ai

00:29:33.920 in something depends on how much of me getting that wrong is going to disparage a group or is going to

00:29:39.680 mess up your life so that's that's sort of our philosophy on that but what i wanted to point out here

00:29:45.680 is i even with that being the case would never present an argument this poorly thought through

00:29:51.200 this is just like at surface level stupid like okay we'll go to the next one here which i think

00:29:55.920 is incredibly stupid stereotypes of older people as a burden is harmful and false where she is trying

00:30:03.440 to be like you know elderly people still work they still contribute to the economy when it's a stereotype

00:30:10.240 to say that they don't and people are healthier longer now and i'm like that is really stupid like

00:30:17.520 older people are less productive than younger people like are you denying that are you like

00:30:25.840 i'm i'm actually confused i'm actually because i've said that there is there are like good arguments

00:30:31.440 about caring about prenatalism like if she came out the gate with ai right and ai will automate people

00:30:37.440 that wasn't even one of her arguments or or even just a logically consistent anti-natalist argument

00:30:45.680 yeah that would have been fine for me too an anti-natalist argument like a negative utilitarian

00:30:50.480 argument i'd be like i disagree there's logical consistency yeah we we yeah or one saying ai will

00:30:56.800 replace so many people like we don't even need to be thinking about this we need to be that's totally

00:31:01.040 good as well um or ai safety is just such a bigger risk that's fine as well i disagree but like it's

00:31:06.800 insane these are just like dumb and that's what gets me because there are smart things she could

00:31:11.920 have said right but like how dare you be bigoted against the elderly and say that they're not as

00:31:16.720 productive and don't pay as many taxes as younger people and it's like but they aren't like and and

00:31:24.480 is your plan actually to like remove the concept of retirement from our society so that your communist

00:31:30.400 utopia can work people to the day they're dead so it can continue to support itself like is that

00:31:35.840 actually the world we're going into it's just so cruel if you actually think about the long-term

00:31:40.640 implications about what she's trying to normalize here so the next argument economic systems can

00:31:48.400 adapt and thrive despite demographic changes by the way if you're wondering like the way i'm going

00:31:52.640 over these this is again me using ai to summarize all of her points because she was very long and

00:31:56.960 verbose and so i put a transcript into ai and i'm like that's fine to do you don't actually want me to

00:32:02.560 go over literally everything she's saying because it was really long and did not respect the audience's

00:32:09.440 time and it really annoyed me because i want i want fast answers i want lots of information i want grass

00:32:14.000 you know i'm not getting that i'm getting skits about a trans woman pissing on a pregnancy test

00:32:20.560 literally yeah well okay anyway economic systems can adapt and thrive despite demographic changes

00:32:26.800 specifically here she's like pension systems rely on future economic output not just current

00:32:32.160 contributors public pensions depend on taxation private pensions on investment quality both of

00:32:37.280 which are going to be hurt by falling fertility rates as we pointed out agent populations also reflect

00:32:43.280 successes like low infant mortality better public health and more women in the education workforce and

00:32:49.200 it's like first of all they don't as we pointed out a a graph of india where you can see the

00:32:54.880 participation in the workforce by gender of women and men during the 90s when fertility collapsed for

00:33:01.120 india it is not because women participate in the workforce that fertility rates are collapsing it is

00:33:05.440 it is actually seems to be almost irrelevant to falling fertility rates exactly yeah so you see similar

00:33:11.280 stuff from iran like when when iran started to curtail female access to education earth rate kept

00:33:17.840 falling you know all these things that you would assume would happen if the issue was women being

00:33:22.880 in the workforce or women being educated no that's that's not that's not it guys yeah we're thinking

00:33:29.600 about doing a whole episode on how feminism and female workforce participation is not responsible

00:33:36.080 for demographic collapse but we have not gotten around to it well it's just if you look at a graph

00:33:40.400 and one of my favorite graphs and i'm not gonna remember put a graph here in editing is if you look at

00:33:44.240 falling fertility rates over time in the united states and in europe when here we have england

00:33:48.640 france and the united states you can see that the vast majority of fertility collapse happened from like

00:33:53.680 1830s to like let's say like 1900 like well below before the feminist movement right the feminist movement

00:34:02.560 actually came onto the stage well after the vast majority of fertility collapse had already happened

00:34:07.920 right it is relevant to fertility collapse and it's something we need to address as we address

00:34:12.160 fertility collapse but it is not like just just show she's never really engaged with any of the

00:34:17.760 arguments on the other side now she goes on here to say the birth rape phantasm masks ideological agendas

00:34:23.360 and everyone's heard this i mean people have multiple agendas this is like saying environmentalism

00:34:29.440 mass ideological agendas it can mask ideological agendas i care about fertility rates but i also care

00:34:38.240 more about fertility rates among people who are culturally similar to me because this is my

00:34:42.960 culture like obviously i have pride in my own culture as i said everyone should right so like

00:34:47.520 i am going to be concerned about falling fertility rates within the united states more than i'm going

00:34:53.760 to be concerned about falling fertility rates in europe which we've seen less of within the united

00:34:56.800 states which as i've said you know the future world if fertility rates stay the same as they are now is

00:35:01.200 going to be dominated by the united states and israel just because we're the countries that have been the

00:35:04.720 most resistant to this that are economically prosperous and i've also pointed out here in

00:35:07.920 other videos we've done recently latin american fertility rates are absolutely in the gutter

00:35:11.920 you know even if you look in the united states like mexico fell below us tfr last year financial

00:35:16.800 times did a piece on this obviously there's different measures of this but by the ones i consider most

00:35:21.040 most trustworthy it appears to latin america collectively may have fallen below the us fertility

00:35:25.040 rate the lowest fertility state in the united states is puerto rico well state or territory the latin

00:35:30.080 american state the only place where latin americans have decent fertility rates is when they are

00:35:34.080 minority populations among other populations the black fertility rate in the united states fell

00:35:38.400 below the right fertility rate this year so like that's not a thing so even if you claim even like

00:35:43.280 so but well before that at higher levels of income black fertility rate was was basically consistently

00:35:48.800 trounced by white fertility rates like whenever anyone's thriving still like we'd be more concerned

00:35:53.520 about black populations in the u.s and that's a big problem so because poverty is always going to

00:35:58.480 predict well not always but like consistently poverty is predicted high fertility so that doesn't count

00:36:04.000 but like obviously my my agendas wrap up here like i want society to move away from the clutch of the

00:36:10.480 urban monoculture the mind virus and and now from yesterday's episode we learned people with literal

00:36:16.000 parasites that are changing their behavior that have convergently evolved with the mind virus to help

00:36:21.280 infect more people through things like literally a mind virus it's it's literally a memetic virus combined

00:36:29.120 with a collection of pathogens which are symbiotic and help each other spread and turn women into cat

00:36:36.160 ladies so that they can help spread more of this pathogen and that this is what we're fighting against

00:36:41.840 and you help because your message is going to be disproportionately appealing to people with these

00:36:46.960 sorts of mind viruses who have lower threat detection because we know that these people vote democrat more

00:36:51.280 and and that's been heavily attested in toxoplasmic gondii infected individuals and so you know you do

00:36:57.840 help serve our agenda by going out there and convincing witless followers that this is a good idea

00:37:04.720 right and i will note i was actually surprised by the number of downvotes that her video got our videos

00:37:08.960 rarely get many downvotes we're typically at like two percent downvotes or something on a video unless

00:37:13.360 we're like attacking a religion and then it gets higher but she had like 1.1k downvotes good heavens

00:37:19.600 really 20 20k upvotes or something like that so yeah that's a surprise i mean you have to really

00:37:27.360 dislike something to downvote it so maybe even her own fans were like this is this is dumb i don't know

00:37:32.560 there's been a pretty big tipping point against like trans anything so i could just see a lot of people

00:37:38.480 who don't follow philosophy oh my god it's so big now like you know the olympics is looking to ban

00:37:44.800 trans women from participating not looking to i think they just announced oh yeah they did in the

00:37:49.280 igc shocking discovery without a report saying that that they're gonna as they all should have done

00:37:55.440 a long time ago everyone who was saying knew this was a bad idea and i'm sure you can watch philosophy

00:37:59.280 tube videos saying that it's not a bad idea and the arguments are probably gonna be just as bad

00:38:02.560 because of the wachowski effect you can look it up see our video on it why does iq drop so much

00:38:07.440 in trans individuals and why can you not know that this is happening we go over the video there's a bunch

00:38:12.400 of studies that were done in pretty much up to the 90s that showed this with a very big effect

00:38:16.400 potentially one standard deviation we have large amounts of information in this in animal models

00:38:20.320 because we needed to know this for like farming and and stuff like that because often use you

00:38:23.920 sterilize animals and the evidence that shows that it doesn't like the big study that they always say

00:38:29.600 shows that it doesn't it turns out it was conducted by the head of the w path files so not very

00:38:34.800 believable because everybody involved in that study made their living off of transit people so just

00:38:40.400 worth noting because philosophy tube didn't i you know if you look at their stuff because they've

00:38:43.520 been doing this since before they transitioned it wasn't quite this brain dead so but the wachowski

00:38:48.320 effect talks about a whole different thing that is a leads to the lower perception of iq was in

00:38:54.560 transitioning individuals which is just that they're operating with a different gender's brain that

00:38:57.680 they didn't grow up learning to use it's like they grew up learning to use a guitar and somebody

00:39:01.120 handled them a mandolin and it's like play it the way you used to play your guitar and they can and

00:39:04.720 it comes out sounding dumb but hey they can get an audience because of differential treatment right

00:39:10.080 yeah but that's the whole thing there's like the trans bread tuber community right where you just

00:39:14.080 have tons of famous trans bread tubers because there was a period when the left would disproportionately

00:39:18.320 listen to trans people anyway to continue here real birth rate problems are about reproductive rights

00:39:22.880 and socioeconomic support many people have fewer children than they want to because they lack of

00:39:27.200 support not moral decline ufpn shows the sources key barriers financial course job security housing

00:39:33.280 course unequal domestic layer let me point out here that housing costs are way higher in israel

00:39:37.520 like like multiples higher in israel you can go to dedicated videos we have on this topic it is not

00:39:42.400 housing costs housing costs do change fertility but like 20 or something like that you they're also

00:39:47.840 much denser than in the united states so it's not levels of denseness and in the united states less

00:39:52.080 money you have the more kids you have so it's also not not that people don't have enough money this is

00:39:56.400 just like bad when you look at the facts political and media exploitation of demography fuels distracting

00:40:02.160 phantasms she basically is like that this is being used in stroking anxiety and blah blah blah push

00:40:08.800 harmful pro policy like perpetuation and cuts and just hippie nonsense here it's not really an argument

00:40:16.000 it's just i don't like that this if if we recognize that this is a real issue that it could be used to

00:40:21.840 promote political goals that are harmful to mine which it it does and apocalyptic demographic right

00:40:27.360 readily supports reactionary social agendas again i don't like that this can be used like if this is

00:40:33.120 real then people might have a reason to care about immigration if they feel that their population could

00:40:39.120 go extinct even though immigration presumably can't actually be that effectively used to result demographic

00:40:44.800 collapse but even if it could people probably wouldn't want it because they don't want to erase

00:40:48.000 their local cultures and ethnic groups which why should they right like for example as we pointed out like

00:40:53.440 even if you're talking about local black americans they might have a fertility right now it looks like

00:40:56.960 around 1.3 and the imported blacks have a way higher fertility rate well what is this great

00:41:01.840 replacement of local blacks do local blacks don't have a reason to care that they are being replaced

00:41:05.840 yeah it's very they doff protest too much yeah and the reason i talk about it in context of blacks is

00:41:12.480 because that that removes her ability to be like well this is white white people

00:41:18.320 shut up okay she says

00:41:20.080 the real fertility crisis is a crisis of choice and support not numbers fertility problems are about

00:41:30.000 people lacking the choice and capability to have desired children she points out that people want

00:41:33.600 to have more kids than they do have but again they just she's she's talking about the stephen shaw

00:41:38.960 argument and i mean it's it's true that this is broadly a product of the big trend that everyone's

00:41:45.440 seeing with demographic collapse which is that people still want kids they're just having kids a

00:41:50.160 lot later and that means that they're not able to have the number of kids they want they're getting

00:41:53.600 married later they're not able to have the number of kids they want it's a problem why do they have

00:41:57.760 more kids when they have less money then because they get married younger and or they just have kids

00:42:02.640 out of wedlock really young the larger point being is that it's not i mean this this is clearly not the

00:42:08.320 issue it is an issue she's just not really discussing it in in depth you can always make

00:42:16.080 choices to live there are people who have less money than you pretty much whatever income level

00:42:20.560 you are as a fan of this show i doubt we have many people who are at the bottom of the barrel of

00:42:24.480 society given the way we structure our content giving the demographics of our fans which might

00:42:28.480 mean that you may earn you know an average american wage which is hard to live on but there are

00:42:32.880 you know a quarter of americans living on half of that you know you can find ways to make things work

00:42:37.680 right i think that that that this is there's there's always a way to make things work because

00:42:43.600 it's just that you don't want to make the sacrifices around this the best solutions are

00:42:47.440 social investment not panic solutions for population birth rates are practical policy

00:42:52.240 based and progressive like higher wages secure jobs housing health and social issues comprehensive

00:42:59.440 sexual education child care scraping of child benefits you know etc and it's like paternity leave

00:43:05.280 and we're like we've shown that none of these things really help fertility rates like if you

00:43:08.320 had actually done any research on this you would know that there are plenty of countries that have

00:43:12.800 tried this stuff and it doesn't work we have a way higher fertility rate than northern europe like

00:43:17.840 you're aware of like broadly you're aware of that right where they have all of this stuff that

00:43:22.880 you say is going to help we have a way higher fertility rate than canada like you're aware of that

00:43:27.840 right i'm i'm very confused like does she just live in an alternate timeline like i feel like she came

00:43:35.040 from like a sliders world right you know and and she came here and she's like debating based on facts

00:43:40.880 that are just not at all i i it was almost weird to watch because i'm almost sort of wondering i i do not

00:43:47.920 think that and you can tell me if i'm wrong here i do not think that there was any interest in actually

00:43:55.520 engaging with this topic right like there there this was not an honest intellectual engagement with

00:44:00.720 the topic it was because it was clear that she hadn't thought what are the counterpoints to the

00:44:07.200 things i'm saying which is always one of the things that i try to think first in fact this is one of the

00:44:12.080 number one ways we use ai when doing episodes is typically before any episode goes live i will take

00:44:17.360 the script and i will give it to an ai and i will say what are the best counterpoints to what i'm saying

00:44:22.480 here right because i do not want to go on air and look foolish right the impression i got was that

00:44:29.200 philosophy tube saw demographic collapse is a big and trending issue and therefore this would be a good

00:44:35.520 topic to cover in the future episodes possibly also they received a lot of requests around it you know

00:44:42.880 because it is trending and they would like to see the views of a trans a progressive trans woman in the uk

00:44:49.680 on the subject because philosophy tube is in an interesting area for it you know i mean there's

00:44:56.000 a lot of tension around immigration my fertility in the uk just didn't want to care like it was it was

00:45:04.560 coming into this from the perspective of this cannot be a real existential issue because if it is then i am in

00:45:12.160 the wrong and i made bad decisions in my life that lead me to be an immoral person so i am going to

00:45:19.200 approach this trying to come up with every lazy and they were very lazy arguments as i said there are

00:45:25.520 good arguments you can come at this well i think that the thing is that philosophy tube is probably

00:45:30.320 intuitively antinatalist but hasn't thought through it enough to actually realize that they are

00:45:34.160 antinatalist and therefore this would have been better argued from the perspective of a philosophically

00:45:41.440 actualized antinatalist but here we just basically had someone who doesn't put much thought into the

00:45:45.440 matter as you say yeah that makes sense sad well i love you simone i but for yesterday's episode the

00:45:54.960 one on the the parasites and stuff like that if somebody knows like asthma gold or one of the big

00:45:59.600 like the streamers who like watch other things i want somebody bigger than us to do that because that

00:46:03.840 information needs to be out there like the right needs to be having a discussion that we are actually

00:46:09.200 dealing with like an invasion of the body stature situation what's so funny is that as a lot of

00:46:13.200 people pointed out in the comments like fortune has already been on this a bunch of other people

00:46:17.040 have already been on this like but they've all been considered fringe crazies and no there's actual

00:46:21.760 real research that shows this to be a real thing which is just so crazy so do we do should we be

00:46:28.480 saying this to reporters are we going to get in trouble if we're like well i mean also the parasites

00:46:32.400 that control their brains or we're not going to be taken seriously by reporters if we say it

00:46:39.920 that is i i i look at their lived experiences the people who've taken in vermicron right you

00:46:45.120 you dismiss them they say they were aroused by you know same-sex individuals and all of a sudden

00:46:50.400 they're not like i want to i want to do more research into the various ways ivermectin has been

00:46:56.640 used and if anyone has systematically reviewed various use cases i mean keep in mind glp1 inhibitors

00:47:02.880 like ozembic were used for diabetes you know and then suddenly way after they were used for that

00:47:10.320 they were discovered to be a wonder drug for obesity so who knows what ivermectin turns out to be

00:47:15.520 used for eventually you know but we'll see maybe there's an episode in there we'll take a look

00:47:21.200 yeah yeah well this has been fun to talk about with you i mean i feel we need to respond to i i'd

00:47:25.920 really like us a smarter version of her to do this because i'd love a smart progressive to talk about

00:47:33.760 this points i love contra points is much smarter than her yeah and more entertaining too this is what

00:47:40.000 i'm talking about all these that's one thing i don't care about smart i care about entertaining

00:47:43.440 contra points entertains me i love i love contra points video i almost wonder if philosophy tube

00:47:50.160 got popular just because people saw her videos and couldn't tell her apart from contra points

00:47:53.840 and then i just wanted i got i i will the reason i've tried every time i've tried to watch a philosophy

00:47:59.040 tube episode it doesn't work for me but the reason i tried in the first place was because of contra

00:48:05.520 points and i was like i need more contra points because there aren't enough you know i've gone

00:48:10.320 through the entire backlog you know is she the store brand contra points where it's like yeah

00:48:16.960 she's she's the i was gonna say kirkland but kirkland's really good good great value no like

00:48:22.400 walmart's generics are also fantastic yeah yeah i don't know generics are really good so we can't

00:48:27.520 even say that you know like a bad knockoff okay by by like one of those yeah she's she's she's the

00:48:33.040 la foo foo of contra points the la foo foo of contra points there are expensive la booboos are

00:48:39.360 the real ones la foo foos are the fake ones oh okay okay okay um really out of the loop i'm so sorry

00:48:46.160 sorry i know nothing about la booboos or let's keep it that way god bless we should maybe do an episode

00:48:51.680 where we're like you the things you're out of the know about like like the six nine seven six seven

00:48:57.360 thing well clearly you're still out of the loop on those then i don't know i don't know these things

00:49:03.600 i mean the biggest thing with our kids is is is still among us he he wanted to name we asked what

00:49:09.280 we want to name the next kid and he said among us hey simone do you want to go oh we'll do this in

00:49:14.080 the next episode it's intro love you simone and you are amazing bye i love you too which one are

00:49:21.040 i going to next lying no your one oh my one okay you seemed excited about it i mean yeah i

00:49:31.280 you're never gonna view ivermectin the same way again are you how am i looking you're looking good

00:49:40.960 all right so funny i always thought that that jacket was some weird thrift store find

00:49:48.160 oh yeah you didn't realize it was ralph lauren when ralph lauren went through a goth phase yes

00:49:53.920 people don't remember this who didn't shop at ralph lauren during ralph lauren's goth phase

00:49:59.520 ralph lauren absolutely like the best goth clothes i have ever gotten i got so weird i mean great it's

00:50:08.640 sad that their goth phase was t-shirts that were really gothy looking like elegant understated the way

00:50:14.480 that i like to dress goth you know i don't i want to be too in your face about it right uh-huh

00:50:21.040 um yeah there's different types of there's like where's an invader zim shirt from hot topic goth

00:50:27.280 and then there's goth goth i don't know well no if you want to do it right like you gotta there's

00:50:33.920 there's there's mall goth which is like gross right yeah then there's like a take on victorian goth

00:50:40.960 that's great yeah it's great but it's a little over the top in fey a little much there's also

00:50:47.440 steampunk goth which is which i think looks ridiculous it's like glue a gear on it it's

00:50:52.480 a little too much yeah yeah what i went for which is i guess today i'd call it preppy goth

00:50:58.720 preppy goth i'm ready for that and nobody knew that preppy goth was an option until they saw

00:51:05.040 malcolm collins and then they're like or until anyone i guess yeah i guess this segment of people

00:51:12.080 who are both goth but could afford ralph lauren clothes like from the store directly oh my god they

00:51:17.840 were not the only of the big stores that had goth clothes another one that had gothy clothes was i

00:51:23.440 want to say burgdorff what's the one that was in that door yeah burgdorff where they have like

00:51:28.000 different fashions on that's a department store yeah it went out of business yeah burgdorff no

00:51:32.640 burgdorff is still fine i think are you thinking barney's oh i know i may be thinking the one that's

00:51:37.440 on on sax at fifth avenue oh that's that's again just a high-end department store so it just has

00:51:43.200 different brands within it you just might be different designer brands this is just because

00:51:47.840 yeah when you were a teen you had your mother insisting that you you could never buy like thrifted

00:51:52.080 clothes you had to buy but most of what i wore was thrifted well yeah when you were out of the

00:51:58.720 house and then i'd like sew up my clothes and everything to be really cool i was a cool guy

00:52:03.760 i'll tell you what no i want to hear i think i heard somewhere that jinko jeans have made a comeback

00:52:09.360 they have i had one pair of jinko jeans but that was when i was so young and they were a lot of money

00:52:16.400 i could see new rock boots making a comeback you i found cool your new rock boots are sitting in the

00:52:21.680 attic they're still here as an adult yeah but they're kind of falling apart i'm actually thinking

00:52:26.240 maybe i should get new new rocks like huge yeah and they make me taller like why not like i dress

00:52:32.480 fancy like why not just incorporate new rocks into my outfit i need to wear yellow boots i'm sure new

00:52:37.040 rock has some great yellow boots so i can match the rest of the family let's see new rock

00:52:41.920 boots yellow oh not really no really oh that's such a disappointment yeah oh nope sorry it auto

00:52:56.080 corrected to new york oh you see well i'm on their page now so let's see yellow what comes up i know

00:53:03.200 they have at least yellow women's boots the question is do they have yellow i'm seeing it gross camo

00:53:07.440 platform shoes and that's it that have yellow soles but camo uppers you don't want that

00:53:15.360 no i'd probably just go for like the classic one yeah yeah just a classic new rock boots

00:53:21.680 you're gonna get chingo jeans too yeah well i gotta i gotta go unfortunately with all yellow so

00:53:27.040 you know yellow trumps the the fancy boots yeah which we do to match the kids so how do people like

00:53:34.800 the i was surprised it only did four out of ten i think it's like maybe one of the best episodes

00:53:38.880 we've ever done yeah but we could arguably be spreading medical misinformation which makes

00:53:47.200 the algorithm hate us so oh this this is the you think that's what was going on it possibly

00:53:54.400 there was it was also constantly like commenting on everyone else's comments saying like

00:54:00.720 this is not it's not statistically relevant what was that like i actually know why a person had a

00:54:09.360 freak out so this is the episode where we discussed that there actually is a significant

00:54:13.760 amount of evidence today that certain species of both parasites and some funguses and potentially

00:54:20.800 some bacteria have evolved to modify human arousal pathways to make them prefer certain things that

00:54:28.720 that lead them to you know from a or more gay sex or the other one that was really crazy is lead to

00:54:37.280 lower threat detection yeah evolving was the urban monoculture is like a set and this is just amazing

00:54:45.120 to me that this is the case and one person is probably aware because one of the ones we talked

00:54:49.680 about was toxoplasmas gandhi toxoplasmosis and there's a big scare about toxoplasmosis when we were

00:54:55.280 kids right and so everybody learned about it back then and then there were some studies that came

00:54:59.280 out that showed that that scare may have been unwarranted and then everybody you know whenever

00:55:04.640 like there's a viral thing and then there it can be like a viral against the viral thing and then

00:55:09.520 everybody set to that and they were apparently unaware that yet a new big string of studies had come out

00:55:15.840 showing that it appears to have now evolved to only spread within human populations without cats and

00:55:22.880 specifically specialize in modifying human arousal behavior and other sorts of behavioral to

00:55:27.920 increase and i think that they were just unaware of this later string of evidence but also keep in

00:55:31.840 mind how hurtful this is if it is true to a large segment of the population that decided to identify

00:55:39.440 with their arousal patterns and now it's just like oh that was a parasite by the way control your identity

00:55:46.080 was a parasite yeah your your identity wasn't you it was a parasite i don't know they're building

00:55:54.000 identities around diseases they don't even have so you know i mean it's more humiliating to be used as

00:56:01.280 just part of the reproductive process of a parasite but i mean think about it like when you talk about

00:56:07.440 lower threat detection and stuff like that that there's this girl who you know wanted to do a march

00:56:12.240 through europe in the middle east to prove that you know everybody yeah everybody is equal and kind

00:56:18.720 and you know very low protection on this one she gets within a mile of a border of an arab majority

00:56:23.600 country and is found murdered and graved right like that if you're just like actually she did that in the

00:56:29.680 same way like an ant that's been infected with like fungus spores crawls to the top of a a leaf that

00:56:35.760 his head can explode and the spores can come out to infect other ants like that her life literally

00:56:41.200 was just a vehicle for the reproduction of pathogens it's a it's a hurtful thing to internalize but

00:56:47.280 what's wild is there were so many comments in our discord and on the main channel being like oh my god

00:56:52.880 yeah i was aroused by men or i was by and then i went on a regimen of anti antibiotics or i took in

00:57:02.240 vermectin was a really common one and all of a sudden those feelings went away and this is apparently like

00:57:07.520 a really common story that people have in our fan base and i actually want to double down and

00:57:13.520 try to look because it makes sense and it makes sense that the public wouldn't want you to know

00:57:17.600 about this and it makes sense that the urban monoculture may have some kind of immune reaction

00:57:21.760 when invermectin started to get become popular because a lot of people in our fan base because

00:57:26.320 you know we're a fairly right white leaning show was like yeah i was super left-leaning and then i took

00:57:30.800 invermectin and it's like oh my god like is is this weird like not thinking about the future

00:57:37.600 mindset because that seems to be really core to modern progressive thinking is complete blindness

00:57:43.120 to future events by this what i mean it's it's this we even had a reporter who was like super

00:57:47.520 progressive and i'm like do you just like actually not care that like social security is going to

00:57:52.160 collapse because of the things you're doing and and and medicaid is going to collapse and welfare is

00:57:56.720 going to collapse in the future like do you not care about those future people she goes you know

00:57:59.920 when i think about it i really don't at all and i think this requires like something lesioning your

00:58:04.800 brain to like not think about future events that is not normal human behavior and that's what we

00:58:10.160 might actually be seeing here so anyway really cool stuff yeah i'm doing the final step i think the

00:58:18.880 algorithm just doesn't like people talking about well then you gotta share you gotta share the info guys

00:58:24.160 we never ask you guys to share but this is actually info that i want to become popular

00:58:28.960 like i'm not even saying like if you know like a big right-wing podcaster or something like that

00:58:32.640 i want them covering this info i want this info you know everywhere right i don't know i mean joe rogan

00:58:37.520 was the big ivermectin advocate right but this is different from that this is this is is pointing

00:58:45.120 out that there is a collection of pathogens and parasites that are convergently evolving to be

00:58:50.880 symbiotic with the urban monoculture and the urban monoculture is evolving to protect them

00:58:58.240 anyway i will get started here simone

00:59:04.800 i'm excited for this one i'm curious to see where you take it

00:59:08.880 look at this look at this what are you doing

00:59:13.360 this is my beef lo mein that my wife made look at this could you imagine if you had this every night

00:59:17.760 oh my god could you imagine it's so tender you guys have no idea what are you working on what are

00:59:34.720 you doing titan it's okay professor's safe come on you don't want to be afraid of dogs

00:59:48.560 you got to calm down around dogs come on sweetheart come on let's go

01:00:00.160 you'll learn

01:00:08.560 take down

01:00:11.200 go

01:00:15.760 good boy

01:00:17.120 good boy

01:00:19.920 good boy

01:00:22.160 good boy

01:00:23.280 good boy

01:00:24.960 Let's go in there.

01:00:30.960 Hey, I need to take a picture.

01:00:33.960 Let's go up there, buddy.

01:00:39.960 Let's go up.

01:00:41.960 Let's go up there, buddy.

Based Camp - November 12, 2025

New Arguments Against Caring About Fertility Collapse From Philosophy Tube

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