Based Camp - Nick Fuentes Finally Comes Out as a Democrat (I Called It)

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we get a big heaping helping of

00:00:04.860 I Was Right. I called it. It was the craziest conspiracy theory I had ever launched. So people

00:00:12.700 will know there have been a number of episodes where I predicted that Nick Fuentes would join

00:00:17.080 the Democratic coalition. And there was actually one entire episode that was nothing about but this

00:00:23.720 exact topic, but I never aired that episode because I thought it was just too crazy to air

00:00:28.420 is an independent episode. I thought people would say, Malcolm, you've fallen off. This is crazy.

00:00:33.440 You're going too hard here. He's never actually just going to come out. Like he may act like a

00:00:38.080 Democrat, but he's not just going to join the coalition. And he has. 2026 vote down. I'm a

00:00:44.760 Democrat now. I'm a moderate Democrat in 2026. I don't know about 28 for 2026. I am a non-woke

00:00:51.920 Democrat. Hi, my name's Nick Fuentes. I'm an Afro-Latino, non-woke Democrat. I care about

00:00:59.080 affordability. I care about foreign interventions. I care about the border. I'm a non-woke moderate

00:01:05.560 Democrat. I think the GOP needs to be destroyed. I think the corrupt criminal government of Trump

00:01:09.980 needs to be slowed down. We need to impeach the orange. It's time to put this in a peach.

00:01:15.620 Trump needs to be placed inside of a crystal. He needs to be impeached.

00:01:18.980 this fat orange tiny hands needs to be impeached and then in 28 no vance no rubio we have to burn

00:01:26.960 down the whole party we need to elect a dark horse who's going to put america first i'm not

00:01:31.460 listening to anybody else no vance no rubio america first that's the and that is all that

00:01:38.540 matters anymore that is the only thing that matters not voting for democrat unless they're

00:01:44.980 really, unless it's like me, unless it's a Nick Fuentes Democrat, unless a Nick Fuentes Democrat

00:01:52.180 wins the nomination, I won't vote for a Democrat. I'm never Vance. I'm never Rubio. I'm an America

00:01:57.980 first guy. So Tucker and all the rest of them, they're going to try to shut me down. They're

00:02:02.360 going to try to get Vance in there in 28. And you got to be, you got to wisen up and realize we got

00:02:08.020 to take our own side here. None of this nonsense. And I will note here that I have seen some people

00:02:14.120 coping and saying that these clips are him joking i have watched enough nick fuentes to know the

00:02:20.940 difference between when he is entirely joking and when he is because he does everything in a

00:02:27.240 jocular manner when he's saying the stuff he most sincerely believes more than anything in the world

00:02:31.520 he'll add a joke here or there to it and if you want to say that this is a joke really the only

00:02:36.900 line in here that i think you could use as evidence because everything else is completely

00:02:40.580 in line with everything he said in the past is the i'm an afro latino uh but this only works if

00:02:45.620 you're unfamiliar with the nick went death lore uh nick's grandfather was mexican um he admits

00:02:51.640 this and identifies this way um and in his dna test he is partially african small like one percent

00:02:58.100 but he is an afro latino um and so i think what he's doing here is in everything he says whether

00:03:03.800 it's right wing or left wing in a traditional context he always throws in some spice some

00:03:08.760 stuff to to piss people off um but he's trying to performatively lean into the identity politics

00:03:14.580 i also want to point out here that i do not dislike nick as a person if anything i think

00:03:18.820 that this is a a good development for him because he has been cheerleading democrat causes for a

00:03:24.540 while now um and to just be able to come out and admit like what his political team is i think

00:03:31.840 shows a degree of integrity um instead of larping as somebody who's right wing and there's nothing

00:03:38.280 like okay like i'm against the democrats agenda but he he has explained why he holds these points

00:03:47.460 these points are in line with the democratic agenda and i don't think that he's being

00:03:52.200 necessarily intellectually dishonest in how he has laid these out so i can't hold animosity over that

00:03:58.740 but if you look specifically where i think this is validated because maybe you could say

00:04:03.900 the whole i'm joining the democrats i'm a moderate democrat now a non-woke democrat

00:04:08.640 first that's a weird way to say it if he's joking right the the coming out explicitly as a non-woke

00:04:15.260 democrat is it's the he's he's not putting on like an act like i've become woke or something

00:04:22.760 like that he is he is clarifying his position while in the same speech saying that he still

00:04:29.280 can't quite bring himself to vote for most democrats yet which to me that doesn't that's

00:04:35.300 not a joke like that's him saying yeah if you're a bit he wouldn't be speaking that way and yes

00:04:41.920 and then later in the same speech which we'll get to he explicitly says that we should vote for a

00:04:47.380 democrat over a uh an indian republican uh ramaswamy so what is the alternative

00:04:57.620 well not everybody's going to like this but in november there's going to be two candidates that

00:05:04.900 can win on the ballot in ohio and it is acton on the democrat side and ramaswamy on the republican

00:05:11.600 side if it can't be ramaswamy i think you know what it has to be and so i'm going to be calling

00:05:20.640 on everybody to be going to ohio and we're going to give people a choice you have an option

00:05:25.320 stay home but i think if you really want to make a difference and help we're going to have to hold

00:05:32.580 our noses and we're going to have to vote democrat and i'd point out here how quickly he flipped on

00:05:40.660 this oh i'm a democrat now but i won't vote for democrats to all of my fans need to get out there

00:05:46.340 and vote for a democrat this is why i can only help but roll my eyes when somebody's like well

00:05:49.760 you know he did say that he was never going to tell people to vote for democrats so it shouldn't

00:05:53.940 really be seen immediately afterwards as soon as it's election season like there's a pattern to

00:05:58.400 this guys and again i am not anti nick fuentes content i find it often quite entertaining

00:06:03.280 sometimes insightful but it's important to look at his revealed preferences and his end goals

00:06:09.220 that can be discerned from looking at the revealed preferences what he actually does when it matters

00:06:15.180 when and vivic is awesome man like that is awesome one of my favorite vivic quotes i heard this when

00:06:21.920 was at the libertarian convention and it was the vic versus another one of the leading republican

00:06:28.280 candidates one of the boring ones who i don't like anyway so the other one like wanted everyone to

00:06:32.740 come without their guns to the meeting and you know it's the libertarian so they didn't want to

00:06:36.820 come without guns in new hampshire well because he's like you know i'm a i can understand how he

00:06:43.180 might be scared you know i'm a presidential candidate i get lots of death threats they all

00:06:46.160 get lots of death threats you know we get death threats right anyway but vic then comes and he

00:06:51.160 has no restrictions on it he's like yeah just anybody come and then he gets up on stage and

00:06:57.160 the guy who i who is telling me the story he came with like an open carry like ar-15 you know like

00:07:02.880 a very well like strapped to this event right and he's like he came with a right strapped and not

00:07:09.800 like a handgun like i think it was i think it was a rifle from what i remember the story so he he's

00:07:15.120 giving the speech and he then at one point in the speech is it's like oh yeah and if i ever start

00:07:21.560 doing this stuff because he's like somebody's like you know i can't remember like you know

00:07:25.980 well politicians say x or say y and he goes well if i start doing that you know they've gotten to

00:07:31.160 me and you know what to do and he pointed to this guy with the rifle um oh my god

00:07:38.300 uh and i love that that's it that's how you i mean that is so much more based than anything

00:08:00.500 nick flintes has ever done to point to the guy in the crowd with the rifle and being like if i

00:08:07.500 ever go for this stuff you know what to do and 07 vivek the avatar of destruction we love you

00:08:15.080 uh i do support trump but you're awesome you got to run into one after trump wins you got to run

00:08:21.340 in 28 honestly i'm i'm on board for a vivek 28 i'm on board for a vivek presidency i think the

00:08:26.640 ideal primary in 2028 is kanye west and vivek ramaswamy w america and i want to be clear here

00:08:32.060 because sometimes people be like well asma gold says he agrees with 99 of stuff that nick fuentes

00:08:36.080 have said and there was a time when i felt that way too when i was like hey we got to give this

00:08:39.900 guy some benefit of the doubt he totally dunked on pierce morgan like that was hilarious um you

00:08:45.260 know he says funny stuff on stream and so i would watch individual clips he said like him glazing

00:08:52.060 vivek here and think oh this guy is great i mean other people will say that like here we'll point

00:08:57.640 out where he'll do some anti-ice stuff and then people will say oh yeah but here's him saying some

00:09:02.600 pro-eye stuff and it doesn't matter if with with somebody like this who when it doesn't matter you

00:09:10.440 know when it's not an election cycle uh where vivek is running he will glaze vivek and then

00:09:15.780 the moment it's relevant to our side winning um enacting stricter border policy actually um

00:09:22.680 protecting unborn children um he comes in and he's like no no no no now i'm working against team

00:09:28.020 And so this has significantly soured me on him is I realize that he has this chameleon persona where he will just take on any position that he thinks will grow his base within a right-wing audience when it's not election season.

00:09:43.780 And then the moment it becomes election season and it matters, he goes full on against us.

00:09:50.840 And this is why when some people are like, oh, you know, look at this clip that counters what you just said here.

00:09:57.200 look at this clip it's like well if those came from beforehand then he's longing to grow an

00:10:02.160 audience like the fact that he uh is contradicting himself makes it worse and this is coming from me

00:10:10.540 somebody who prides himself in updating his views if you watch our videos you will see me updating

00:10:15.140 my views but you can see the directionality of those views updating it's not like i'm here uh

00:10:21.640 you know pro this pro this pro this pro this and the moment it matters i turn against it

00:10:25.620 right with me it's more like for a long time i was like well you know maybe the trans community

00:10:32.300 uh some people are legitimately trans and we just need to handle this with kids um and then i

00:10:39.480 got access to more evidence and i was like i was i was wrong about that and i admit that i was wrong

00:10:45.060 about that um and i used to be a democrat too like i was wrong about that um but this is all

00:10:51.360 sort of a directional evolution which is not what we see with fuentes he doesn't really look like an

00:10:57.280 evolution of political beliefs but either somebody who was hiding his original goals um or somebody

00:11:03.840 who has just been captured by anti-indian and anti-jewish hatred to the extent that he is

00:11:09.940 willing to sabotage everything else he has ever said he stood for in favor of that funny i actually

00:11:16.380 when we speak about my evolution i actually if you look at our early videos on nick fuentes they

00:11:20.000 are pretty glowing on Nick Fuentes basically I did there's a funny scene where Nuxinor is like

00:11:26.040 who's this leaflet person and then somebody chat is like people are calling her a Nazi and he goes

00:11:30.120 well I probably like her then let's see what funny jokes she told her no that was there was

00:11:33.940 shoe on head when somebody said somebody said he's a Nazi and she goes oh I wonder what funny jokes

00:11:37.320 she said but like I sort of felt the same way all the regular people who annoy me were attacking Nick

00:11:43.260 and so I'm immediately like okay I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt like let's see what

00:11:46.300 this guy's about and he starts with some fun stuff and then he starts hoping that we lose the war in

00:11:51.740 iran and starts hoping that our side loses elections and all of a sudden i'm like oh god

00:11:57.840 like this guy is very against our best interest quick side note here but like we need to i think

00:12:06.440 as a movement be clear in terms of like we can say that there are differences between ethnic groups

00:12:11.700 we can say that there are differences between cultural groups we can say that anchor babies

00:12:15.660 are a problem in the country we can say the in-group preference among certain ethnicities

00:12:19.700 is a problem within this country but this just totalistic othering of people from different

00:12:28.080 ethnicities that now show ideologically in their actions in what they're doing that they align with

00:12:35.280 an american vision like take leaflet leaflet's i think a second generation japanese she might be

00:12:40.260 further back than that but at least i know she's ethnically japanese in everything that she has

00:12:45.300 ever done she has shown herself to be on team right so what i'm supposed to other her for this

00:12:51.420 sort of like purity aria babu indian who we've talked about who had this wonderful essay on like

00:12:56.760 why witches are evil and why we need to go back to puritanism and clearly on team and i just don't

00:13:02.460 think it's helpful to create gating where people who are clearly and it's not culturally american

00:13:10.500 It's not what the Backwoods people did.

00:13:12.820 It's not what the Puritans did.

00:13:14.400 Maybe the Cavaliers did it, but they were always D-bags.

00:13:17.420 And the Quakers did it, but they're where Woke comes from, so also D-bags.

00:13:21.300 So I don't see the point in this sort of racially pure angle on things

00:13:27.980 when the real challenge, which is a harder challenge,

00:13:30.780 is just to get people to understand that you can't just import anyone

00:13:34.300 and expect them to behave like anyone else.

00:13:36.360 you lose that battle if you decide that you won't cave on the racial purity battle

00:13:42.620 yeah so i was i was telling this story to simone and he's like well because at first before he then

00:13:48.320 just later goes on and is like yeah we should vote for democrats he he starts by saying and i want to

00:13:52.760 get into like the logic of all of this because i think this can confuse some people and it really

00:13:57.860 shouldn't be confusing it's actually the reason why i was able to predict this is it's highly in

00:14:02.840 alignment with everything he's been doing for a long time at this point and the continuing to

00:14:08.120 pretend to be right-leaning i think was the joke right like he's not really right-leaning on any

00:14:14.020 major policy anymore he promotes social wealth redistribution he promotes like no tariffs like

00:14:21.460 sort of globalist market conditions he promotes america not really exercising its its power on

00:14:28.340 the world stage even when it's just like a an easy net benefit to us like in Venezuela like that's

00:14:33.960 not even like a boots on the ground that's just like a oh yeah like but I want to get into the

00:14:38.720 psychology of how he got to this place because I think for some people who believe the leftist

00:14:43.620 vision of Nick Fuentes this can be weird or confusing but like if you've been actually

00:14:48.720 listening to what he's been saying for a while now this is not remotely surprising this is the

00:14:55.000 And and note here, people can say, well, you know, he has so many values that don't align with the values of the rest of the Democratic coalition.

00:15:05.040 And I pointed out that the Democratic coalition is much more based on what they want to destroy than what they want to promote.

00:15:13.600 And by this, what I mean is you are able to have Islamists on the same side as LGBTQ extremists in the in this faction.

00:15:23.540 he has more in common with well basically either group than those two groups have with each other

00:15:29.660 but he at a at a fundamental level because we'll talk about like what he says he believes i don't

00:15:37.820 want to get i want to get into the second funny part here because this also surprised simone

00:15:40.980 it's he goes well i'll vote for nick fuentes style democrats and simone was like what does

00:15:45.200 that mean and i go well you know there is the nazi democrat now and she's like wait there's

00:15:49.840 a nazi democrat and i'm like yeah you haven't heard about it so let's get into this this is

00:15:57.320 garen patler he's a democrat senate candidate a of what state at maine okay he's the current

00:16:06.220 front runner and presumptive democratic nominee in 2007 while live while on leave in croatia the

00:16:13.060 young mariner after tours in iraq he got a tattoo now he says he had no idea what it was he's like

00:16:20.200 oh i just got it off the wall in the tattoo shop the problem is it's a death head symbol used by

00:16:25.860 the ss paramilitary force central to the holocaust and other atrocities it's a very central neo it's

00:16:33.700 like much worse than say like a swastika because with a swastika you could say i got it confused

00:16:39.060 for that buddhist symbol or something right uh and he claims he had no idea what this was he had

00:16:45.020 no idea what it was until it picked up but it seems he's an alleged nazi like he denies it

00:16:52.920 he has an ss tattoo i mean look also the two lighting bolts they look awesome like that's

00:17:00.320 the problem you think it's like the harry potter tattoo i go to somebody and i go i got the harry

00:17:04.200 potter tattoo on my forehead two of them and it's the ss right that's uh that's i mean i i could

00:17:10.580 see it i could genuinely see it happening so he's i would put him down as a legend nazi but what's

00:17:16.380 been very fun about this candidate and you can watch a bunch of videos online of people freaking

00:17:20.760 out about this is rightists will try to get leftists to condemn him for being a nazi they're

00:17:26.300 like you will accuse trump of being a nazi over like nothing right this guy's got an ss tattoo

00:17:32.680 oh no i've see now that you mention him i have heard of him and specifically from leftist

00:17:37.900 newscasters or like well news commentators on youtube and they're all like no like it it he

00:17:44.840 it was a mistake this is totally defended on the left yeah they don't care like the left doesn't

00:17:49.920 care because the left doesn't care about like being against nazis as i pointed out like they're

00:17:53.600 they'll be pro-nazi if it's on their side like this is all been informative for them

00:17:58.060 they don't say he's a Nazi

00:17:59.960 so

00:18:01.660 with the recent Nick Fuentes turn

00:18:04.220 I think I should explain

00:18:06.200 to people how he psychologically got here

00:18:08.300 because this is also fairly interesting

00:18:10.500 let me ask a question that I think

00:18:12.300 might be top of mind for a lot of people too

00:18:14.220 is this just about being

00:18:16.520 path dependent

00:18:18.260 on being rebellious

00:18:20.620 and if you are

00:18:21.900 far right the only rebellious thing you can

00:18:24.320 do after a certain point is go left

00:18:26.480 like that's the last thing

00:18:28.060 Because when you saw his coming out as a moderate Democrat, as a non-woke Democrat, and you saw the things that he was rabidly protesting, like the Trump administration locking up everyone in the Trump administration, ending all of their efforts.

00:18:43.540 When you see, I mean, he has streams where he's crashed out about ICE being too aggressive before, right?

00:18:50.340 The other thing I'm really worried about is what's happening at these ICE detention centers where it's happening not far from where I live in Broadview, Illinois, where they set up an ICE detention facility, and the administration is rounding these people up, which I support, but they're doing it in a very provocative way.

00:19:09.780 note here many such quotes from fuentes we've got ones like you can perform brutality without

00:19:16.920 being brutal he called ice performatively cruel and like we know that they're not they're doing

00:19:22.720 what they need to do when i watch these videos of ice i often feel like i see them being nice

00:19:27.280 while people are calling them like the n-word and stuff and just trying their best to get things

00:19:31.140 done often while people are violently resisting and harassing them i can imagine almost no other

00:19:35.860 group as beleaguered and unappreciated for their jobs uh i i feel so sorry for what they go through

00:19:42.440 every day and to see nick piling on with this stuff and people can be like well here's where

00:19:46.960 he's supporting them and here's where he's supporting them or later in that very clip

00:19:50.160 he walks it back and it's like well he never should have said it in the first place these

00:19:53.800 people are working their butts off man he never should have said it in the first place you're not

00:19:59.060 genuinely on team if you're doing that are you serious he's not about yeah yeah he says it looks

00:20:04.800 bad and it's like bad and there's no other way you can do it right like he uh if you follow like

00:20:11.660 the things he's actually complained about and the things he complains about it's sort of ideological

00:20:15.600 points in that stream this follows really directly from that so there's really two things that he

00:20:22.540 wants more than anything he wants the people involved with the trump administration arrested

00:20:26.340 and to face consequences for not going along with his vision of america's future and two he wants

00:20:32.480 is real to suffer. And I note here that it's not just Nick that is making this move that we've

00:20:39.280 seen to the left. David Duke made this move. Richard Spencer made this move. Richard Hanania

00:20:44.480 made this move. A lot of people, and Richard Hanania, like he's been on our show before. I

00:20:49.760 like, I, I, I, you know, pleasant enough guy, but he often talks when he's on left of shows,

00:20:54.660 he goes, yeah, between X and Y years, I was a professional racist, right? Like people who

00:21:00.820 really bit into the racist card have been i think sorely disappointed by how much the right is just

00:21:08.520 not the party of racism anymore and the left is okay with racism still right like they will it's

00:21:15.700 very interesting if you watch leftist interview like richard anania about his time as a racist

00:21:20.600 or about his racist views there really isn't any condemnation for it in a meaningful context

00:21:25.980 it's not even like he needs to apologize for it it's just like yeah but you're voting blue now

00:21:30.380 right and his primary bugaboos right like he doesn't really so so one you've got to look at

00:21:36.620 his behavior pattern for every single election and midterm up until this one he this is when he

00:21:42.120 always turns on the democrat coding right he does this thing where when it's not about to be a

00:21:47.560 voting season he pretends to be a republican and then whenever it's about to be voting season he

00:21:52.380 always argues that either people shouldn't vote for the republican candidates or like in this

00:21:57.840 season well that's true yeah he was not voting for trump in the 2024 because he was very clearly

00:22:04.980 anti-trump in the 2024 political race you remember that right yeah i thought richard hanania and he

00:22:12.500 turned anti-trump but were they just saying that to like rile people up i don't know

00:22:17.960 so it appears that he has held this position really strongly since 2024

00:22:25.640 and that he really starts to flare up in these positions whenever it's an election cycle

00:22:31.900 and then he goes back to pretending to be a republican in between election cycles when it

00:22:35.860 won't matter and i i'd like i want people to because when we've criticized him in the past

00:22:41.000 and i'm like i'm telling you right now he's not anti-trump he's anti-republican right he wants

00:22:47.240 the GOP destroyed he wants our policy positions destroyed he wants the policy positions of the

00:22:53.400 leftists enacted like loose borders and everything like that I mean keep in mind if we have just a

00:22:57.980 few like a decade more of borders as loose as they were under the Biden administration

00:23:02.060 it's going to be very hard for Republicans to ever win elections again right like he's attempting to

00:23:07.960 put things in place that will prevent Republicans from winning in the future wait he wants loose

00:23:13.120 borders well if he is willing to allow democrats to become elected then yes functionally he does

00:23:20.580 because he's a very anti-immigration he's this is the thing and it's important to look at what

00:23:26.760 he says versus what he does if you look at functionally what he does like where he actually

00:23:33.120 cares where he's willing to like throw down a gauntlet right he's never thrown down the gauntlet

00:23:38.700 over the issue of immigration he has repeatedly thrown down the gauntlet over the issue of

00:23:43.420 using israel to help achieve our foreign objectives if it also helped israel's foreign

00:23:48.500 objectives he no we've seen this right never once have i seen him meaningfully throw down

00:23:54.780 the gauntlet on immigration he throw he's attempted to throw it down over like generic racism but that

00:24:00.760 doesn't really matter right because that's obviously not going to win and even where he's

00:24:06.440 engaged with immigration as i've noticed like he's been anti-ice before and stuff like that right

00:24:11.460 like he he wants to like slow down immigration but not in any way that could like look bad or

00:24:17.720 cause a fuss which is very interesting when you contrast it with his public persona but i think

00:24:22.680 it's important that people understand that his public persona even was in his mind is a bit of

00:24:26.900 an act and not necessarily in line with his real goals for america i do get the impression when

00:24:33.040 watching him then watching a bit of it like a stand-up bit it's almost like he took the concept

00:24:39.220 of the colbert report and he just like did the method acting version of it where he like lived

00:24:45.240 it 24 7 like lived a far right persona yeah i mean you don't know that he's doing this 24 7 or not

00:24:54.340 right like um whenever he's on stream then fine and i i put on a persona on stream too but my

00:25:01.020 persona on stream is largely dude i talk with you all day this is not a persona

00:25:06.800 i don't know welcome nice try i think i'm more provocative on stream

00:25:12.060 no okay maybe i don't i thought i put on persona on stream

00:25:18.720 but but if i don't i'm so well then i'm lying i i don't i apparently i'm just like this 24 7

00:25:28.880 yes you you don't think i state my values more extremely or more you know sometimes i try to be

00:25:37.460 controversial for controversy's sake or you're way more controversial off camera uh-oh what

00:25:44.220 i'm saying off camera now you're getting deep lore here people that's your you're more or less

00:25:49.200 the same but you're less guarded in what you say because you know that you couldn't be demonetized

00:25:54.000 in our normal life oh that's true that is true yeah yeah yeah no i mean i have some spicier takes

00:25:59.980 that i'm like i don't know the world isn't ready for this yet and i think that there are things

00:26:06.000 that people could infer from things i've said on stream like i think i'm significantly more

00:26:11.200 ruthless in less caring about people i see as being damaging to the future of human civilization

00:26:16.460 then then i come off as on screen but anyway i think that

00:26:22.340 go run around and play okay sweetheart you're you're being a loud bugaboo

00:26:28.040 now she's crying about it looking around like she's been rejected

00:26:32.520 you can go play with anything in my room look the whole room is full of treasure

00:26:38.540 just not wiggling on my lap okay

00:26:42.700 but what i find interesting and what i'm really excited to see

00:26:51.900 if if if we can see it happen is is the left going to embrace him like they did richard spencer

00:26:57.640 oh no richard and ania sorry richard and ania that's a very that would be really interesting

00:27:03.860 if suddenly he has his so what where where this last happened actually is the the girlfriend

00:27:10.320 the former girlfriend and baby mama of elon musk ah who went lefty yeah she did her apology

00:27:19.340 sorry and she did fairly well like she was she was accepted but with skepticism like she went on

00:27:28.840 the a bit fruity podcast and they were like we'll hear you out i mean i think i believe you but i'm

00:27:34.440 not 100 sure so i could see him being and i also want to point out something about his recent

00:27:41.980 messaging around this that's different from his historic messaging that i i told people his

00:27:46.820 historic messaging was bs and some of his fans actually believed him and i think that this time

00:27:52.200 hopefully he has said enough that people understand oh malcolm actually understood

00:27:57.140 the situation better than i did which was he would say when he told people to vote democrat

00:28:02.120 he's like this is an accelerationist thing like if you vote democrat things will burn down faster

00:28:07.920 and then we can get the right type of republican party in place then we can get the right type of

00:28:12.620 republican in place i think you're discounting the extent to which this is a subversive thing

00:28:18.880 that one it's strategic on his part he knows that like to keep pushing the extent to which

00:28:25.520 can be subversive he has to know go where no one has gone before democrat but also he'll be able

00:28:32.800 to pick up all the subversive democrats who want to be rebellious in some way or more edgy because

00:28:37.880 there's nothing democrats hate more i do i do not think that at all i think really if you watch the

00:28:45.260 actual clip where he's talking about this stuff he is not in out there nick fuentes voice he is not

00:28:52.400 in hyperbolic nick fuentes voice these appear to be no but to be a moderate democrat is to be

00:28:59.660 subversive but also weirdly apply to subverse no i know but when he's doing his subversive thing

00:29:05.940 if you watch his show he'll have moments where he is subversive to be subversive and he gets all

00:29:12.020 giddy about it and he does this whole act about it this is not him being subversive to be subversive

00:29:18.060 This is his honest opinion. And I think that if you look at it in the context of his previous statements, which is a point I was trying to make, where historically and part of his audience genuinely believed this, that he would tell people to not vote for Trump or tell people to vote Democrat with the understanding that if the Republican coalition became unviable without him and people like him,

00:29:43.860 that eventually a new form of republicanism would grow that was more in line with the values he

00:29:49.400 claimed to espouse this has been his historic talking point this talking point has been dropped

00:29:56.100 okay now he is just i am pro-democrat if the republicans are in line with and allied with

00:30:06.640 groups like interracial oh yeah because he's anti anti-indian why is it so freaking trendy

00:30:13.700 to be anti-indian and well actually this is a wider thing both in the uk and in the united

00:30:19.180 states if you look at the indian political class outside of i mean i guess you could consider

00:30:26.100 kamala harris partially indian but like she doesn't know she leaned into her like i'm yeah

00:30:31.140 but if you look at the indians who are like big in politics both in the uk and in the united

00:30:36.820 states the the the big names are mostly republicans right right wing vivek chamath in jd vance's wife

00:30:44.200 yeah chamath is very right wing are you serious i know but i was i was gonna say he's not like

00:30:49.140 that active as a political but i guess he has one of the most popular podcasts in the country

00:30:54.700 yeah and they get political yeah okay and the there was a leader the last leader of the uk

00:31:01.900 conservative coalition was an indian oh yeah the prime minister yeah so the point i'm making here

00:31:08.780 is that indians as an ethnic group have largely at least in their elite caste aligned with right

00:31:15.380 leaning politics as to why this has been the case if people are wondering like they're like that's

00:31:20.620 odd like why would that make so much sense there's a couple reason why this has happened and and the

00:31:26.380 right has while skeptical of them being like full americans largely embrace them i mean there are

00:31:31.480 issues with indians that need to be addressed like the nepotistic behavior they show in the tech

00:31:35.160 world but in the united states at least they have largely been exempt accepted by the political cast

00:31:41.760 and the reason is a fewfold one is is that they generally hate muslims except for the indian

00:31:47.380 Muslims, but the Indian Muslims typically don't make a lot of money in the United States. They're,

00:31:51.320 they're, you know, poorer immigrants, but the, the wealthy tech mogul Indians are mostly

00:31:56.480 Hindis, Jain, Christian Indian descendants, a few Sikhs, but not many, but, but don't worry.

00:32:02.420 The Sikhs also generally hate Muslims. So there's that. And the second one is, is they're

00:32:06.580 disproportionately wealthy and disproportionately libertarian and sort of their value system.

00:32:11.260 Now, if you look at the overall Indian voting block, yes, they vote less. I'm just talking

00:32:14.780 about the political class here and obviously this infuriates people like nick fuentes right who

00:32:22.080 had this like as i've described by nick fuentes in the past if you want to understand his ideology

00:32:29.460 he's somebody who's driven much more by seeing the things he hates destroyed than seeing the

00:32:36.560 things he cares about succeed and so long as he can make political decisions that increase the

00:32:42.500 probability the things that annoy him or would not kowtow to his vision it's not even like

00:32:47.840 broadly like as i pointed out he's super against vance he's had long rants against vance vance is

00:32:55.240 the most anti-war mainstream republican candidate out there right now he is well and he's catholic

00:33:02.600 and he's catholic right like the idea that he would be anti-vance shows that it is not about

00:33:09.860 being anti-war for him it's about seeing israel suffer with it's not really about being pro-democrat

00:33:16.800 it's about seeing the republicans suffer and if you look at his value set like if he actually

00:33:21.380 believes that life began at conception or if he was actually concerned about the population being

00:33:26.560 replaced or if he was one he'd be having kids i mean i've pointed this out before he could

00:33:31.220 trivially easily get a wife at this point i've always pointed out to me that's always been the

00:33:34.760 smoking gun you don't know he could have a secret wife for all we know he doesn't have a secret wife

00:33:42.520 and i always this one when people are like oh no listen to his requirements for a wife you'll

00:33:48.000 understand why he doesn't have a wife and i'm like bro don't be so brain cocked on this if you listen

00:33:54.420 to his requirements for a wife they are obviously intentionally designed to be something that he

00:34:00.100 will never meet they are preferences he can make what's the word i'm looking here for concessions

00:34:06.220 on you know he's like i want to meet a wife who's permanently offline and whatever like well if do

00:34:12.000 not step on that if that series of requirements prevents him from finding a woman and yet he

00:34:18.840 believes like the white race is being eradicated and being replaced presumably preserving the right

00:34:26.120 white race if you believe his world perspective is more important than him finding a wife who

00:34:33.700 makes all of these very particular peculiarities that he's looking for if he actually believed all

00:34:40.000 that now again i think he does actually believe it i just think he's far more motivated by the

00:34:45.220 things he hates and the things he cares about and so that he can functionally understand that if we

00:34:50.540 get democrats in power again they're likely going to change elected they're going to stuff the

00:34:54.460 Supreme Court they're going to let in tons of illegal immigrants we're going to end up in a

00:34:58.780 situation where we may not be able to win again but we're going to be like if Kamala Harrison

00:35:03.300 won do you think our channel would still be on the air right now like very obviously not

00:35:08.880 that's dark well I mean it's true they were they were they have been increasingly tightening the

00:35:14.600 bolts on social media and and but that does help channels like his one of the other things people

00:35:21.120 noted that was a huge red flag for a lot of people is he was very prominently at the jan 6

00:35:26.840 riots yet was never arrested for it and so a lot of people are like why right and people will know

00:35:34.060 well he didn't participate in x part of the riot or y part of the riot or he was true i mean to be

00:35:39.400 arrested you have to be convicted of actually breaking the law like not true were as tangentially

00:35:47.380 connected as he was but they weren't like actively vandalizing something and they still

00:35:51.600 arrested yeah i gotta look into them so for context here we had nick fuentes who was at

00:36:02.180 the rally to save america performatively speaking there through a bullhorn yelling things like keep

00:36:09.040 moving towards the capital it appears we are taking the capital back and break down the

00:36:13.940 barriers and disregard the police and celebrating was rioters over lines like we have taken back

00:36:19.760 the capitol building and if you look at other individuals who have been charged they did

00:36:24.320 demonstrably less than this individuals like ray epps who was given a year probation for encouraging

00:36:31.220 the crowd which is and he never you know went into the buildings or anything like that coy

00:36:36.860 griffin also never went into the buildings and so it's almost sort of ghoulish how nick led

00:36:43.360 his followers like how did he know not to go into the buildings how did he know to tell everyone

00:36:48.480 else to go into the buildings but he didn't go into the buildings himself it wasn't obvious to

00:36:52.480 a lot of people that that was against the rules so why didn't he do it was he setting people up

00:36:58.160 was he part of the setup because it looks a lot like as an outsider why did some people who

00:37:03.500 encourage the crowd get in trouble and why did he not get in trouble how did he know the imaginary

00:37:10.180 lines not to cross when he was telling other people in no uncertain terms to cross those lines

00:37:16.620 like does that not seem curious to anyone and and it's so ghoulish that he led his followers

00:37:23.180 into this and we know that this was in part now because of leaks a setup right like we know that

00:37:30.080 there were cia agents among the crowd and that in part this was done to try to paint the right

00:37:36.620 in a bad light has that not been nick's career since then like you just need to paste a few

00:37:42.620 things together to see what's really going on here yeah no people were who were doing the same type

00:37:48.740 of things that he has well done given how fastidiously they searched out and went after

00:37:53.120 everyone affiliated was at why not him and this brings me to i guess the larger point here which

00:37:58.760 is what are the chances that he's actually a plant my odds are very low i think around three percent

00:38:05.940 because i also understand it i just think that he's being botted by people i think he's being

00:38:11.940 protected there's a difference between being artificially monetized or propped up but not

00:38:18.580 knowing it and being actively like supported and be knowing about it just like mormon influencers

00:38:25.380 you pointed out and other people have like elissa grenfell that mormon influencers don't

00:38:31.660 mormon influencers are making more money and posting more content because they're able to

00:38:38.060 make so much money from their content because the lds church pays more money for ads on lds content

00:38:44.880 yeah we have a whole episode on that which is why why do mormons want to be called les where we go

00:38:50.260 no why do mormons call themselves mormons why don't mormons call themselves mormons very detailed

00:38:55.120 we go into the math on that by the way people are wondering why people are saying he's bought it now

00:38:58.880 so on x his tweets they have like a farm of reposters around them and when and they're so

00:39:06.040 aggressive that they often beat elon's tweets in terms of the amount of tweets sorry no yes

00:39:13.660 nick foot's tweets in terms of immediate reposts beat elon tweets despite his much smaller following

00:39:19.920 well it's weird but you could have thought it was organic until x did that thing where they

00:39:26.280 showed the country of origin of all those accounts and they were all like nigeria and pakistan and

00:39:31.820 india and so immediately everyone's like oh so this is and i don't think he's fully aware of

00:39:38.560 of why forces are are doing this when he's no reason to look into it why would you you know

00:39:44.040 well i think that he is audience captured by a fake audience like we see it in our posts as well

00:39:52.080 where if you look at the places where people post fake things we will see like really aggressive

00:39:59.020 for example anti-israel posting like on our youtube or in like random ads at x if we look

00:40:06.800 at places where like i know there's a real persistent audience like discord we don't see

00:40:11.980 any of that it's also true like if i'm doing a stream because i i do streaming and this is

00:40:17.320 something i really notice you can judge authentic engagement because bots do not appear to engage

00:40:23.040 with like mid-tier streams a lot and now that i've done leaflets stream a number of times

00:40:27.220 i'm able to sort of gauge when like israel comes up or the war in iran comes up or even nick

00:40:33.080 fuentes comes up how many people like start shilling him versus how many people attack him

00:40:38.360 and and so far like when nick fontes has come up on the leaflet stream i haven't seen a single

00:40:43.420 comment defending him or confused as to why we would bring this up whereas on our youtube comments

00:40:51.420 oh my god yeah we'll see what the comments are of this video today yeah and so what does this

00:40:58.040 and that what are they going to say call it what do you think they're going to say well they're

00:41:03.160 going to say it's a joke or that this is in line with his previous accelerationist agenda but he's

00:41:09.220 not framing this in accelerationist terms anymore don't do that what was what was that jelly beans

00:41:18.980 she's just going around destroying stuff now

00:41:23.700 don't do that

00:41:28.860 she looks really sad right now

00:41:34.360 yeah don't do it

00:41:39.900 you can cry if you want to

00:41:42.180 but don't do it

00:41:43.020 you are too sweet to these kids

00:41:49.600 okay I'll give her a hug

00:41:52.300 you can come here and get a hug but stop it

00:41:54.000 okay come here I'll give you a hug

00:41:55.800 I'll even give you a kiss

00:41:56.760 come here come here

00:42:03.280 okay are you going to tell the fans that you're not going to do that again

00:42:09.980 and you're not going to make a lot of noises

00:42:11.420 do you want a kiss

00:42:13.620 do you want a kiss

00:42:16.200 do you feel better now

00:42:20.480 yeah you're okay Andy

00:42:24.740 let's try to model what they're gonna say about this they're gonna say it's a joke

00:42:33.480 and they're gonna say the evidence of the joke is he says he's an afro latino in it like that's

00:42:38.600 the one part of it that could be a signal of a joke the problem with that one statement in it

00:42:43.520 is everything else in it is in line with everything he's ever said a b he is partially

00:42:49.780 latino as far as i know or at least i've heard that as an accusation of him from outsiders well

00:42:55.040 his last name is fuentes yeah so he's at least southern european which is the same essec group

00:43:01.260 as is latino so like it makes he's getting this accusation or that he would make that claim he's

00:43:09.380 like well now that i'm joining the left i can use my latino heritage right like i can use a latino

00:43:14.480 identity oh i like that that's fun but yeah i actually i'm going to be more clear i think the

00:43:20.660 afrid latino thing was a joke sprinkled in was a bunch of stuff that wasn't a joke because he will

00:43:26.420 often even when he's saying what when he used to say right-wing things he would sprinkle in jokes

00:43:30.860 here and there right like that's his style of communication but everything else the trump

00:43:36.700 administration destroyed and dismantled that's in line was the stuff he's been saying on his show

00:43:41.660 when he's pretending to be right wing right like this is just his value set right yeah so i think

00:43:48.540 that that i mean that's the harder thing like if you have actually and i think that this is the

00:43:53.860 thing if you have actually been watching the protest for a while and are open to changing

00:43:58.920 your mind on him when you see this recent like i'm a moderate democrat rant you can really consider

00:44:05.520 it in the context of everything else he's saying in the rant and just ask does this sound like a

00:44:10.640 joker doesn't align with the other stuff that he's been complaining about recently and to me

00:44:15.800 if you if you take his agenda to be see the jews suffer see the trump administration suffer see the

00:44:22.880 gop suffer above all other things above saving unborn lives above the immigration crisis above

00:44:28.720 saving western civilization he actually disaligns with the modern left on very few issues right like

00:44:36.260 every one of those key points that he has is just a leftist issue aside from immigration i think

00:44:44.040 that's the really key thing well hold on he has never really thrown down the gauntlet on immigration

00:44:51.560 he has been anti-ice before what i mean is he's never said i'm turning away from the republicans

00:44:56.800 because they're not strict enough on immigration he has complained about ice being too ruthless

00:45:01.500 in the past he is not as anti-immigration as people make him out to be he will take

00:45:06.940 anti-immigration stances but when push comes to shove and we need to like round the wheels

00:45:12.160 on stuff like people complaining about ice he will circle the wagons circle the wagons he'll

00:45:18.180 completely back away and retreat and i think that this is indicative of the fact that he was

00:45:27.500 performatively anti because like if you're anti if you're actually like

00:45:31.500 anti if you're like i want to preserve the white race i want to preserve white people as an ethnic

00:45:36.700 group you would have kids right like it's it's a trivially well not trivially easy thing to do

00:45:42.860 but for someone like him he could do it he just needs to make a few compromises right

00:45:46.860 which apparently given he says that this is existential for him so we know he's not telling

00:45:51.680 the truth about that this is called rhetoric versus revealed preference for people who are

00:45:56.900 not aware of it and it's something you should really look at in terms of the figures you are

00:46:00.600 looking at for sort of ideological framing, ideological advice, because they will show you

00:46:05.340 whether they really believe what they're telling you through their own actions in life. And I think

00:46:10.600 through our actions in life, people can see that we are 100 percent serious in belief what we're

00:46:15.340 saying. Whereas I think the reveal preferences, Nick, is he does not believe what he's saying

00:46:20.520 or he would make compromises around finding a wife. In addition to that, the fact that he is

00:46:26.220 so willing to go with the democrats during a time period where they could use immigration to shift

00:46:33.400 voting blocks in a way that we will never be able to recover from i think also shows he's interested

00:46:40.220 in being performatively anti-immigration but the performative anti-immigration stuff i think is more

00:46:45.880 in in in line with achieving his wider agenda like if you look at him recently like on his show

00:46:54.400 if you look at the immigrant groups that are actually causing problems in america right like

00:46:58.840 like at a major level right you've got somalians muslims and to a lesser extent hispanics uh

00:47:07.180 i sent you the welfare statistics on hispanic immigrants up to the third generation right

00:47:11.620 told you yeah no that's been trending yeah yeah so i i'm actually walking back my position on

00:47:17.880 hispanic immigrants a bit i'm like they're a bigger problem than i thought look again like

00:47:21.880 immigration is not a problem if you shift the way that you offer social services i agree but you

00:47:28.440 know we haven't yet so we need to deal with immigration so if we look at the groups that

00:47:34.420 are actually like damaging ethnic groups to the country like an existential level

00:47:38.200 and you contrast the amount he complained about those groups with the amount he complained about

00:47:43.200 indians and jews it's like not even comparable and i think that like do jews like run

00:47:51.700 scams. Yes, you can see our episodes where we complain about the Orthodox Jewish scams,

00:47:56.900 rounding the wagon on that. It's our episode called Speed Running a Progrom. Obviously very

00:48:01.620 spicy, right? But Jews are still net tax contributors to the United States. But Indians,

00:48:08.060 do Indians disproportionately take jobs? Yes, they absolutely do. I find that incredibly infuriating.

00:48:14.300 Do Indians also start successful tax companies and are they next tax contributors? Yes,

00:48:18.400 are obviously next tax contributors so when i'm dealing with groups like that while i may have

00:48:23.000 animosity it's like and i may say there's things that we need to do there's conversations that

00:48:29.520 need to be had if you're mentioning those groups at like 10x the rate of groups that are like

00:48:34.600 actively on a daily basis causing harm that's a that's an issue for me right and note here about

00:48:41.200 other people who we have said have gone crazy recently we had the episode where we're like

00:48:45.800 tucker because i talk about my masad poisoning conspiracy that they poison people who start to

00:48:50.580 go lefty and they start going crazy they start to go anti-israel i start to question israel and you

00:48:55.320 know we have nick colpentes tucker carlson and candace owens here and some people when i said

00:48:59.960 that were like oh come on malcolm tucker carlson is really on point he's super based and i'm like

00:49:05.420 bro like i wonder do these people like step back and be like maybe malcolm is seeing things that

00:49:10.600 i'm not or predicting things that i'm not when it turns out that now tucker carlson says tuck

00:49:15.700 like trump is casting spells on his cabinet members

00:49:19.800 i don't know if you guys have seen this interview it's epic like everyone has seen

00:49:26.340 this interview he's actually lost his mind this isn't normal stuff well and that he's

00:49:33.680 like outright denying that he ever implied that trump was the antichrist

00:49:37.200 there's i mean a lot of people say people are anti-crisis anti-christ that like that's that's

00:49:44.740 less to me than him saying that he was and based on his own subjective experience under a spell

00:49:52.500 when he was around trump and there is a kind of quality that he has that's spellbinding and i

00:49:58.740 think it probably literally is a spell uh and the effect is to weaken people around him and make

00:50:05.620 them more compliant and more confused and i've experienced this myself you spend a day with trump

00:50:10.020 and sort of like you're in this kind of dreamland it's like smoking hash or something it's interesting

00:50:14.740 very interesting. And there may be a supernatural component to it. I'm not a theologian, but it's

00:50:19.200 real. And anyone who's been around him can tell you it's real. You've been talking on your show

00:50:22.400 about whether Trump is the Antichrist. I have not said that. On your show, the day after Easter,

00:50:27.620 you noted he did not put his hand on the Bible during his swearing and ceremony as president.

00:50:32.620 You said, and I'm quoting, maybe he didn't put his hand on the Bible because he affirmatively

00:50:36.340 rejects what's inside that book. And then on a recent show, you went further saying,

00:50:40.560 here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them.

00:50:46.220 Could this be the Antichrist?

00:50:48.440 I actually did not say, could this be the Antichrist?

00:50:51.420 Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them.

00:51:00.180 Could this be the Antichrist?

00:51:03.000 Well, who knows?

00:51:05.340 I don't know where that comes from, but I know that those words never left my lips.

00:51:08.880 That's like Wiccan's casting spells on Charlie Kirk level stuff, right?

00:51:13.240 It actually feeds into our theory with Tucker Carlson.

00:51:17.160 And our theory with him is that he tends to spend time with people

00:51:21.400 and just try to be very agreeable around them.

00:51:24.540 And like go with the flow and he becomes very convinced by them.

00:51:28.360 And so it doesn't matter if he's with like the Qataris or the Russians

00:51:32.280 or with President Trump.

00:51:33.940 Yeah, but he didn't say this about anyone else.

00:51:35.700 He said it about Trump.

00:51:36.680 oh yes but he could have said it about anyone but he but he didn't he said it i just think

00:51:44.240 it's kind of a thing he does though he's a very agreeable person just to be clear the leader of

00:51:49.060 the gop faction right like that's who he said it about i know i just want to like be clear that

00:51:55.040 we're on the same page with this he was he was talking with a fairly leftist journalist about

00:52:01.240 this so he was being agreeable to her i i agree but he didn't complain about that he didn't say

00:52:09.700 a journalist put me under a spell he didn't know he was on he was under the spell of the journalist

00:52:16.060 when he said that about trump what i'm trying to say is tucker carlson i mean so he may he may feel

00:52:24.760 like he's under a spell but that's because he by by personality is i love your pathologically

00:52:31.500 charitable framing of people i mean to me he just came off like a crazy person i i i like

00:52:36.800 when i say a crazy person i mean if an employee said this i would fire them the next day

00:52:41.800 not because it was offensive but because it shows that they are mentally unstable

00:52:45.860 and potentially dangerous to other people in the office well there's yeah i mean we've we've

00:52:51.900 disgust it would pick it would anger too many of the people in our audience because they seem to be

00:52:56.620 there are a lot of tucker and candace stands in our audience but both of them seem to have like

00:53:02.440 really recently gone off the rails in terms of their mysticism going too far

00:53:07.440 yeah i sometimes wonder was like tucker and nick stands like when is it too far

00:53:13.700 like when do they need to just be like take off the mask and be like i'm a wolf i've been a wolf

00:53:19.220 all along like can you see the whiskers can you see and people are like that was a joke that was

00:53:26.200 a prank bro that was a prank but i think that this is incredibly healthy for the long-term

00:53:34.700 right so in the other video where i was discussing this i was like what does this mean for the future

00:53:39.040 of the right-wing party if the deontological faction uh or at least the extremist parts of it

00:53:44.720 end up circling the the the sort of drain and move into the democratic coalition along with

00:53:51.020 the islamists right and the answer is just a way healthier republican party going forward

00:53:56.920 if you look at the people who are still around i think what we're increasingly seeing is as

00:54:03.900 there's a part of the deontological faction that's just going nick fuentes direction right

00:54:09.100 okay there's a part of the deontological faction that keeps getting caught cheating on their

00:54:14.380 spouses or beating their spouse or yelling at staffers or like i don't know what's up with

00:54:20.880 these people and anger issues right but you know whatever and then there's the like nerd faction

00:54:26.160 and as leaflet said it's the nerd faction that's really been having the rights back like they don't

00:54:30.980 make drama about things they generally go along with what the administration is doing

00:54:34.780 they don't really have internal drama very much or at all that i'm aware of i'm aware of no

00:54:40.420 meaningful internal drama in the nerd faction they just get out and they just get out there

00:54:45.880 and do stuff right like and and i'm excited that this faction is in it continuing to grow and the

00:54:52.680 final point i'd make and i made this one a lot stronger in the episode where i talked about the

00:54:58.280 future of the right but if you go to cpac or something like that like you go to these institutions

00:55:03.440 where like the cronies that used to control the white house before they were all founder fund

00:55:08.120 members in this administration they because we've gone to these events in the past this is where

00:55:13.900 nick fuente's fan base hangs out like the the people who have taken over right-wing institutions

00:55:20.040 and have something of a romanist agenda right these individuals i remember i got in a fight

00:55:26.680 with them and this was and i can say it like i don't care like the claremont group pretends to

00:55:31.300 be like a mainstream right-wing organization even within the maga faction and i was talking as

00:55:37.200 members at it and they were clearly of like this this orientation like they were not aligned with

00:55:42.220 us they were aligned with the the deontological faction right and they were talking about all

00:55:47.860 these fantasies of laws they wanted to enact and i was like bro like that's not aligned with

00:55:53.340 maga's values or what the base wants and what they said was f the base like very aggressively

00:56:02.860 like they were like f the base like why would we care what the base wants like we decide where the

00:56:08.180 Republican Party goes the base will vote for us whatever right and I realized that if you look at

00:56:13.740 the first Trump administration and a lot of Republicans up until recently they've been

00:56:18.000 heavily controlled by this faction and I think that going forwards to our fans who get in

00:56:25.660 administrations and stuff like that do not hire from the think tanks the think tanks are lousy

00:56:31.820 with these people and they are very dangerous to our goals because they do not have aligned goals

00:56:36.160 and at cpac there are a number of these people who are interviewed and they said stuff like

00:56:40.700 maga is over and what they really meant by that is our ability to control maga is over

00:56:46.340 we have lost our ability to call the shots and that's why maga had value to people like

00:56:54.460 nick fuentes to people like the think tank deep state on the right is because they thought they

00:57:00.540 could manipulate it to achieve their ends rather than the ends that the base actually wanted again

00:57:07.000 look at things like the support among maga for the iran war right now the base is not with these

00:57:12.740 people it's a 90 10 issue among maga but they to them it's over because they thought it was a tool

00:57:18.600 they could use and they're like well this tool is boring to me now because it completely see

00:57:22.460 through my bs and now maga is acting on its own and i am furious about that because i cannot

00:57:29.240 control it anymore for my personal agenda and i think that that's where nick has finally gone

00:57:35.700 it's he's like i cannot control this therefore i don't want to be a part of it well so what are

00:57:40.300 your predictions for nick's next move well next move is i think that he's going to go back to

00:57:47.100 pretending to be a republican he's going to go back to pretending this was a joke after the

00:57:50.320 midterms perhaps even before the midterm the pushback is is is loud enough from this and he's

00:57:57.000 still going to tell people never vote for republicans no matter what for at least like the

00:58:00.400 next eight years of elections or who knows 15 years of elections right he's already signaling

00:58:06.860 this right so like he's not a useful part of the coalition so you really don't think there's a world

00:58:11.740 in which he like leans into the democrat thing the moderate democrat thing he might if he gets

00:58:17.740 on some podcasts if he gets some interviews out of it i can totally see that because i think he

00:58:23.300 can only go so much farther on the current wave he's writing i think that his switching to the

00:58:29.620 democrat party could get him a ton of additional media coverage and followers yeah i mean he

00:58:36.760 doesn't appeal very well to like the new right audience yeah so from a strategic standpoint

00:58:42.380 that's what i'm saying is i feel like it's a savvy move i don't know what he would mean into

00:58:47.420 it more what i mean by that is while the new like new right audience would appreciate his vitalism

00:58:53.280 part of the thematic problem he has reaching them is if you look at the figures that get really big

00:58:59.280 on the new right figures like you know asthma gold leaflet etc they're they're typically sort

00:59:05.020 of pathologically kind and and and pathologically compassionate like asthma gold like literally

00:59:11.760 catching the cockroach and letting it free outside right like he's also put him in a box

00:59:18.040 school so right no but i mean their their true core is pathologically kind you know hassan is

00:59:25.500 stop killing people in gaza while i shock my dog right like that's true yeah yeah you know if you

00:59:30.660 if you look at or or leaflet where like she's basically the god of her fantasy world that

00:59:35.540 hundreds of people will play every day and she refuses to move above level one or being the

00:59:42.000 guild receptionist in it even her avatar for people who don't know she didn't even create it

00:59:46.900 it's the child of two people from one dnd session she ran that is pathologically trying not to

00:59:54.060 center yourself now do how do we fall into this i don't know i mean i'm i'm narcissistic as heck

01:00:00.480 but i think i at least come across as authentic so i do okay there you're the if you're narcissistic

01:00:08.880 though like one thing that you're really weird about is you feel incredibly concerned about

01:00:14.400 never doing wrong by anyone who put their faith in you that's not really what a narcissist does

01:00:19.960 yeah yeah like if i had taken nick's position and gone to the jan 6 riots and told people

01:00:29.080 go through like enter the building keep moving and i hadn't done it myself and my followers were

01:00:34.720 punished for believing in me and that no one ever came after me my god i don't think i'd be able to

01:00:41.640 live with myself like the existential horror of not leading by example around something like that

01:00:49.420 is uh just so antithetical to anything i could ever imagine doing i like literally if i had

01:00:56.220 somehow even by accident not been able to go in yet i had told people to and they suffered

01:01:00.720 lifelong consequences for it that would be the top of my mind every day going forward

01:01:07.240 so i mean i guess for me important with this podcast when people are like oh you're a same

01:01:13.820 hard but you're not a narcissist yeah base camp had this really out there take on this or that

01:01:19.760 or x or y or z uh i mean i try to do that occasionally just to make sure that we're

01:01:25.040 not having just mainstream takes because there's there's no better way to know that somebody is

01:01:29.440 lying to you than if they only have normie takes for for your position right like if everyone's

01:01:35.160 saying the same thing about x or y or z then you know they're probably this is what we saw as a

01:01:41.000 girl who was cheating on her husband who'd like poked wedding and everything like that

01:01:44.400 every one of her conservative takes was just the most normie conservative opinion possible

01:01:48.940 because she didn't actually hold these positions you know she was just saying what she thought she

01:01:53.260 needed to say to appeal to an audience others yeah anyway i i my prediction is at least if he

01:02:01.560 knows what's good for him commercially, that he will lean into the Democrat thing,

01:02:05.860 go on a Democrat press tour, pick up a bunch of, what's the word, rebellious youth on the

01:02:13.160 Democrat side, and then sort of circle around to like, we need to create a new party or something

01:02:18.560 like that. Yeah, I can see that. I mean, I hope he does. If he creates a new party,

01:02:24.460 that'd be fun. It would be fun. Mostly because he's not useful in the conservative faction.

01:02:29.220 he doesn't get people to vote for right-leaning candidates he always goes against them at the

01:02:32.740 last minute so and like we've been able to win elections without him so i just i don't think

01:02:38.000 that he's helpful i think he turns more people against us than he brings in for us and if the

01:02:43.700 left loses their ability to paint the entire right with stuff that nick fuentes did which

01:02:49.060 they constantly do right so it ends up hurting all of us in our in our wider agenda that's that's

01:02:55.080 useful as well right yeah so let's hope i love you simone this was a wild thing that this happened

01:03:03.260 and i love that it happened i love that we're in this timeline and yeah i'm very interested to see

01:03:09.400 what the stands say in the comments yeah let's see what the either stands i know here if you're

01:03:14.920 like a stan and you're like well you know i do agree with him that the most important thing that

01:03:20.020 america needs to do is screw over israel then uh and don't get us wrong like we're against

01:03:25.440 continuing payments to israel everything like that but you're like no we need to actively

01:03:29.700 screw them over if something helps us but also helps israel we need to not do it the democrats

01:03:34.520 are that party right now like if that's your main issue the democrats are not conflicted about this

01:03:39.980 point yeah so just be a democrat like i i don't under there isn't this could be a very interesting

01:03:48.140 political shift maybe this is how both the democrat and republican party get their proof

01:03:53.980 that they have this like major exchange of prisoners essentially yeah it could be i don't

01:04:00.920 know it could be the great reset i'm excited anyway sorry to everyone for my channeling rfk

01:04:09.720 today and i should be back to normal soon it's because you ate too many balloons or something

01:04:15.800 yeah

01:04:17.280 went too many

01:04:19.120 oh Indy do you want to say goodbye to the fans

01:04:21.400 yeah

01:04:22.540 oh this is how I lose things right Indy

01:04:25.260 oh come on

01:04:26.380 all right so what do we say we say bye like this

01:04:31.260 we go bye bye bye

01:04:33.080 doing bye bye fans

01:04:34.680 doing bye bye songs

01:04:37.020 singing bye bye fans

01:04:38.840 I say goodbye

01:04:40.660 then I dance goodbye

01:04:42.260 dancing and dancing

01:04:44.760 in the house

01:04:46.620 in the sky

01:04:47.960 dancing in the sky

01:04:49.800 I got a rhyme

01:04:52.020 you want me to do it again?

01:04:53.820 bye bye bye

01:04:55.200 say goodbye

01:04:56.680 and say goodbye

01:04:59.120 every single day

01:05:00.940 and say goodbye

01:05:03.180 every single way

01:05:05.020 bye bye bye

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01:05:20.820 soon VTube model making. I'll let you guys

01:05:23.280 know when I'm done with that. That's been harder

01:05:25.060 than I expected.

01:05:29.260 Lo-main tonight, right?

01:05:31.840 If you can make it, yeah.

01:05:34.720 Beef lo-main.

01:05:36.140 Lo-main.

01:05:36.840 I love you, Malcolm.

01:05:39.020 Love you too. You know how to say goodbye.

01:05:42.540 Bye-bye.

01:05:43.260 Can you say bye-bye?

01:05:44.760 What is going on in here?

01:05:47.660 We are jumping on my teddy bear.

01:05:50.860 We are going to jump on my teddy bear.

01:05:52.800 Where's Indy?

01:05:54.200 Oh, Indy's right there.

01:05:57.260 We are going to jump on my teddy bear.

01:05:59.820 Let's see how we go.

01:06:01.860 With these pillow signs, what do you see?

01:06:04.900 Okay?

01:06:08.480 Are you up there, Titan?

01:06:14.760 We're Titan.

01:06:18.740 Titan.

01:06:21.940 Do you want me to put that in your bed?

01:06:24.300 No.

01:06:27.260 I thought it was a little for this one.

01:06:29.440 Down here, right?

01:06:30.160 No.

Based Camp - May 08, 2026

Nick Fuentes Finally Comes Out as a Democrat (I Called It)

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