Based Camp - NYT Freak Out： SSRIs Mass Sterilizing the Left

00:00:00.000 Hello, Malcolm. I'm excited to be speaking with you today because we're going to be talking about

00:00:04.720 how leftists are being sterilized by SSRIs. We've already touched on the fact that fertility rates

00:00:10.360 among the people on the left and the right are diverging and more quickly than before,

00:00:15.500 that sort of the left is just tanking. They're circling the drain of society at this point.

00:00:21.640 Faster and faster. Screaming into the void. It's clearly, it's cultural. We've also talked about

00:00:28.000 how maybe it's also a result of infectious disease and parasites disproportionately.

00:00:32.080 I'd also point out that SSRIs more broadly have become known as like really negative. So I decided

00:00:38.300 to run a sentiment analysis on next X of what people are saying about SSRIs. Oh yeah. 80% of

00:00:44.380 the posts right now on X about SSRIs are negative with only 10% being positive and 10% being neutral.

00:00:52.320 Oh, that's very interesting. And we can go into that more later in this, but yeah,

00:00:56.280 basically everyone is now like SSRI. Well, growing up, it felt like there was this campaign

00:01:02.260 to normalize SSRIs really, really strongly. Like everybody needs to be on them. They're this

00:01:08.620 miracle drug. And now I think now that media has sort of decentralized and you can't have these

00:01:14.260 centralized campaigns anymore. People's individual experiences are coming through.

00:01:18.160 Wow. Okay. Yeah. I mean, so that there's that obviously people are becoming increasingly critical

00:01:25.900 of them, but it, it may be that largely left-leaning young people specifically are throwing off their

00:01:34.180 sexual development by taking SSRIs. And the New York times is trying to raise awareness about this,

00:01:40.560 which is huge and really interesting because I didn't think about this element of it. So according

00:01:45.180 to a recent article in New York times magazine, quote, depending on the symptom drug and duration

00:01:51.540 of use between 30 and 80% of adults taking SSRIs live to varying degrees with diminished desire,

00:02:00.280 sensation, and function, according to a 2019 study in the journal of clinical medicine, 30 to 80%

00:02:07.900 of adults. 30 to 80%? And it's not just, I thought like, I mean, in the past I've been vaguely aware

00:02:14.620 of the fact that if you're on an SSRI, like maybe your sex drive is going to be down. But in this article

00:02:21.120 in which the, the author interviews like quite a few people who have experienced issues related to

00:02:29.820 SSRIs that are sexual in nature, like sometimes we're just talking about like numbness of intimate

00:02:35.540 areas, like beyond just diminished sex drive, like actual pretty serious issues. And the problem

00:02:44.180 and what the New York times is really trying to begin to delve into with this article is that when

00:02:50.420 this is, is happening to teens, like it's one thing with adults where this is pervasively understood

00:02:54.960 and people are aware of it and they're just experiencing real and also lasting effects. When this happens to

00:03:02.540 a teen or an adolescent, who's going through sexual development for the first time, this might

00:03:08.360 permanently affect the way that they exist sexually kind of is similar to how, you know, if you take

00:03:15.960 youth gender medicine as, as, as a kid, it's going to permanently affect your sexual development.

00:03:23.200 Maybe SSRIs are doing something similar. It's just that you don't really look at it as youth gender

00:03:27.400 medicine. And, and really the crux of this too, is it not only are, are psychiatrists, right? They're

00:03:36.980 the ones who prescribe medication. Yes. Psychiatrists prescribe. Not only are they loathe to bring up

00:03:41.800 sexual side effects with anyone, but like, if you're about to prescribe an SSRI to, we'll say like a

00:03:48.800 teenage boy or girl and their parents present or present, you're not going to talk with them about

00:03:54.820 sexual side effects because that's a really good point. What, why are you trying to, why are you

00:04:00.160 warning my girl that she's not going to want to have sex? I don't want her to have sex. Like what, 1.00

00:04:04.160 what, you know, like, so this is, it's one of those issues where there's all these adverse incentives

00:04:08.220 at play, but let's get into some of like, just some, I think, illustrative evocative case studies

00:04:14.040 that this, this magazine article began with, because I think it helps to sort of set the scene.

00:04:18.500 Okay. Okay. Okay. Let's go.

00:04:20.260 Daniel Bergner interviewed the, that's the author of the article, more than 20 people with PSSD. That's

00:04:26.720 post SSRI sexual dysfunction for this article titled more teens are taking antidepressants. It

00:04:32.880 could disrupt their sex lives for years. So here's one. I'll just read the quote in which he, he has

00:04:40.360 interviewed Marie. Marie began taking fluoxetine, the generic form of Prozac when she was 15,

00:04:47.800 the drug and SSRI is selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor was part of her treatment in an outpatient

00:04:54.260 program for an eating disorder. It took its toll on her sexuality quote. I was in touch with initial

00:04:59.940 sparks of sexual energy, relatively young end quote. She said, remembering crushes as far back as the

00:05:07.200 ages of six or seven, shortly before starting on the drug, she was dazzled from a distance by a blue

00:05:12.660 eyed hockey player at school, tall and funny and charismatic. She recalled the fluster and fantasies

00:05:18.560 he stirred, but on the medication, she fell infatuation. She felt infatuation vanished swiftly.

00:05:24.280 And then Marie said, I realized, Oh, I'm not developing new crushes. She had no clue that the drug might be

00:05:30.440 the cause. I wasn't informed about sexual side effects. Even at the worst of the eating disorder,

00:05:36.340 as the worst of the eating disorder abated, psychiatrists and family doctors told Marie and her parents

00:05:41.860 that she should stay on the antidepressant. She complied while trying and failing to escape the sexual

00:05:46.960 side effects. She traded fluoxetine for other antidepressants, including Welbutrin, a different

00:05:52.640 class of antidepressant, which sometimes prescribed to combat low libido. She's 38 now. So like our age

00:06:00.400 and been off psychiatric medication for six years, but sexual desire remains absent quote for me,

00:06:08.140 it's just an empty, dark space. She said, there's nothing there. Wow. There's another case that,

00:06:15.480 that actually comes from a parent that this guy interviewed, which is, is kind of dark and sad.

00:06:21.080 And, and keep in mind, this is, we're talking about longitudinal. Actually, before we get to the

00:06:24.980 parent thing, I actually want to take a side note here. I, it is, it is true that SSRIs do,

00:06:30.400 lower sexual libido and everything like that. But one of the things that I've been seeing a lot

00:06:34.700 online is a lot of women identifying as ACE or talking about how they never really felt,

00:06:41.360 you know, attractive, like active arousal towards other people. And Simone is this way too. Like if

00:06:46.620 you diagnose her on a spectrum, you'd be ACE, but for Malcolm, like you, you'd be asexual, 0.61

00:06:52.580 but at least that's what you tell me. I say I'm gay for Malcolm. Yeah. Who's to know if, 0.98

00:06:57.460 if this isn't just something you tell me to, to keep me happy.

00:07:00.420 It's time. I'm no, you know, from the anecdotes of me trying to break into your room at night,

00:07:08.840 but you've bolted the door. But the, the, the point I was going to make here is I think that our society,

00:07:18.920 because if you live around the urban monoculture, it tells you that your identity is what arouses you,

00:07:26.120 you know, like that's the most important part of who you are is the things that arouse you.

00:07:30.360 And so, and, and indulging in those things is the best part of life. And I think some people,

00:07:37.120 they grow up and a lot of people that grow up and they're just like, but like those things

00:07:41.300 aren't that powerful or aren't that great. And I think that for, if you are a teenage guy or girl,

00:07:50.740 sexuality might be like a really strong and big part of your life. And in some percent of the

00:07:55.980 population, sexuality stays a really strong and big part of their life is the age. However,

00:08:01.160 I think in, I might even argue the average person, just like when you're a adult sexuality,

00:08:08.760 and I'm talking like thirties here, right. Which this person is, is just not that big a thing. It's,

00:08:14.880 it's like not that big a deal. And I think that many people misdiagnose themselves, especially women

00:08:21.920 as asexual or not having sexual desire, when what they actually have is reactive sexual desire,

00:08:28.280 which over 50% of women have, which means you only get aroused when somebody is actively, 0.93

00:08:33.600 basically like rubbing on you, acting on you, making a move on you, right. Like you don't,

00:08:38.860 you don't just like look at somebody and get turned on in the same way that, that it's being sold

00:08:44.580 to you is going to happen. Ooh, interesting theory, because a really big element in the past

00:08:48.940 associated with courting often had to do with dancing, like ballroom dancing, waltzing,

00:08:53.720 et cetera. I wonder if part of that kind of naturally evolved as a cultural mechanism to

00:09:00.040 ignite reactive desire in women. I think it did. And forcing people to touch each other and dance 0.98

00:09:05.060 around. And in a coordinated fashion also while making eye contact. Yeah. Interesting. But I am going

00:09:11.920 to make an argument a little bit later as to why actually this is pretty damaging when it comes to

00:09:15.760 even we'll say non-sexual relationship formation. So we'll get there, but one more, one more little

00:09:21.140 case study that I was like, Ooh. So reading again from the article, one of the most haunting accounts

00:09:26.120 I heard of PSSD came from a parent. Ruth told me that a couple of decades ago, her daughter was

00:09:32.060 prescribed Zoloft, an SSRI at 11, 11. Sorry. I just think that's crazy. A biopsychiatrist after humiliating

00:09:40.240 incident at school left her feeling out of sorts and anxious. About the prescription, Ruth said,

00:09:46.280 I guess I thought it was a good thing. She spoke of her naivete at the time and the blind trust in

00:09:52.000 psychiatry. Her daughter wound up staying on the drug for a decade until 2011. Only after the past

00:09:58.900 few years has Ruth learned from her daughter about the sexual side effects that she still lives with 0.99

00:10:04.020 and about her grief. Her erogenous zones don't work, Ruth said. It makes me deeply sad because

00:10:10.000 of, because our sexuality, the pleasure we get from our bodies and our intimacy with another person,

00:10:14.900 it's such a beautiful experience. It helps us not feel alone. Thinking back, Ruth said, I have a huge,

00:10:20.800 terrible regret about allowing her child to be medicated. I can't believe I so easily said yes.

00:10:27.740 And I think this is indicative of the broader thing. I'm with you, Malcolm, that like,

00:10:31.700 I don't care that much if people aren't feeling intense hedonic pleasure from sex, but I think

00:10:39.880 it's still notable. So now basically, as the New York Times article is pointing out, there's this

00:10:45.600 slow bubbling rise in discussion about PSSD. More professionals are starting to recognize it. It's

00:10:53.580 being a little bit more recognized in academic literature. So for example, the DSM-5, which is the

00:10:58.820 most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, states that, quote,

00:11:05.040 in most cases, serotonin reuptake inhibitor-induced sexual dysfunction may persist after the agent is

00:11:10.840 discontinued. And this is kind of a big deal because I think most people thought that the side effects

00:11:16.440 only happen while you're taking the thing, and now it's becoming increasingly recognized to have

00:11:20.860 lasting effects. Also from the article, the EU's European Medicines Agency has issued similar words of

00:11:26.660 caution, as have regulators in Canada, Australia, Hong Kong, and the United States. Prozac comes with

00:11:32.200 a warning about the problem, and advocacy groups for consumers are pushing for the Food and Drug

00:11:37.040 Administration to require all SSRIs, the most commonly prescribed class of antidepressants, to

00:11:42.640 carry such warnings. So just a little bigger picture thing, how many people are actually on SSRIs? I mean,

00:11:48.160 as you pointed out, Malcolm, they are becoming less popular, they're becoming more criticized, but still

00:11:52.960 approximately 11% to 13% of American adults report current use of antidepressants with selective

00:12:00.180 serotonin reuptake inhibitors, making up the majority of those prescriptions. So one out of 10 people,

00:12:06.060 at least in the U.S., is on one of these now. And remember that the side effects are lasting.

00:12:11.440 Recent national health surveys. What? Did you take SSRIs? Never. I did. You did? Yeah, I did. I don't

00:12:19.680 know for how long. I do remember taking them, but I don't remember for how long. Well, keep in mind,

00:12:24.140 my family just didn't believe in... It was never something we talked about. My parents were never

00:12:29.820 like, well, we don't believe in taking medicine, but like... Oh yeah, I took SSRIs for only a short

00:12:35.260 period. Yeah. And I took lithium for a much longer period. Yeah, but that was only because like your

00:12:40.660 mom kind of forced you. Yeah, my mom is crazy. And if we'd act up, she'd be like, oh, this must be 0.99

00:12:47.040 because there's something wrong with it. Like basically she went through mood swings all the

00:12:50.000 time and she would assume that it was us going through a mood string rather than her going through

00:12:54.120 a mood swing. Yeah. Because she's like, but you behave so differently between different weeks. And I'm

00:12:58.480 like, it's you, mom. Was lithium the thing that paralyzed you? It might've been. Yeah. Something

00:13:04.160 caused like bad effects. I stopped taking all the medication. Something that your mom had made you

00:13:07.780 take that you were still taking when we met caused you to get like paralyzed sometimes. Yeah. And I

00:13:14.260 stopped taking this. It really freaking freaked me out. I don't... What's funny is the drugs that I

00:13:19.360 would promote for our kids is all of the drugs that other people would freak out the most about.

00:13:24.300 I think Ritalin is a really useful drug for young people. Just get them on amphetamines.

00:13:30.220 Um, you know, like you need that to study sometimes, you know, it's hard when it's,

00:13:36.340 you know, two years. Well, yeah. Except here's the thing. I kind of question that we'll need them

00:13:40.240 because yeah, you need them when you're working within a system that's inherently broken, like

00:13:45.100 the school system where you like need to do all these things, but I don't know if our kids are

00:13:50.160 going to be playing. I've used it to get like work projects done. It is useful to get stuff done.

00:13:55.040 You don't use it now. And you get a lot done. You're insanely productive. You go into deep

00:14:00.080 focus all the time. I think also the thing with ADHD and ADD is you focus on stuff, you know,

00:14:06.620 to be important and interesting. Yeah. I, well, I literally haven't taken one in like 10 years.

00:14:10.680 That's because you do work that you find to be meaningful and interesting.

00:14:14.260 Yeah. But as a kid, you'd not, everything you do is going to be meaningful.

00:14:17.020 That's fair. I guess. Yeah. It's a, yeah. When you have to learn stuff that you don't think

00:14:20.680 is useful and that you don't want to learn. And then of course the other one that I always

00:14:24.720 promote on the show and everyone should be on, I think it should just be a mandated drug

00:14:28.700 is naltrexone. It's an opioid agonist that prevents addictive pathways from firing in your brain.

00:14:35.260 And it completely transformed. Like everything I do is my life. Like the way I spend my time online,

00:14:40.820 the way I, you know, like I stopped using social media after it. Like literally I got, I stopped,

00:14:49.840 I go to my Facebook account. It's like cobwebs. It used to be the first thing I would check every

00:14:54.320 morning. I stopped compulsively refreshing newspaper sites. I stopped compulsively refreshing

00:14:59.520 investment tickers. I stopped, you know, like all of the compulsive stuff I would do online.

00:15:05.400 It really was a constant thing for you. Yeah. Yeah. That's all that. I mean,

00:15:09.380 you are pretty hooked on Korean romance manga. So. You know, you know, what's gotten me off of that

00:15:15.500 is, is prepaying for one that I think is like, okay, but pretty boring. So I'm not like drawn to

00:15:21.660 it when other things are happening. Getting stuck in a boring one has been great to break my addiction

00:15:27.440 because I'm like, well, I prepaid for it. I got to read through the whole thing. Yeah. So, okay.

00:15:32.300 About, you know, 10 to 11 to 13% of Americans in general are drinking SSRIs. According to the

00:15:39.500 article, about 2 million 12 to 17 year olds in the United States are on SSRIs. One large 2024 study

00:15:46.800 in the Journal of American Academy of Pediatrics tallied month by month, the percentage of that age

00:15:52.300 group who filled an antidepressant prescription between 2016 and 2022. During that time, the rate

00:15:58.300 climbed by 69% with the COVID pandemic's emotional reverberations, almost surely playing a part.

00:16:04.940 The notable rise was underway before then among college students in 2023 to 24, according to a

00:16:10.860 survey with over 10, 100,000 participants, 22% had taken an antidepressant during the previous year.

00:16:18.540 This was up 8% from 2007. So, so keep in mind, young people are taking them more. And actually this,

00:16:25.660 this, this, this is totally unrelated this morning. I was going through a British psychology digest in

00:16:30.620 my email about there, there used to be this sort of happiness shaped curve with like, sort of how

00:16:36.780 happy you were in life where like people were happier when they were young and then very old.

00:16:40.780 But now it's just kind of going upward. Like you just get happier as you get older because young

00:16:45.580 people are so miserable. So it kind of dovetails with this. Like we, the, the youth mental health crisis

00:16:50.620 is real. And a lot of them are turning to SSRIs. But then, you know, in terms of like how many SSRI

00:16:58.540 users are affected by this, I don't like, it's, it's hard to tell because the reporting is so shoddy

00:17:05.580 in the article that the author writes in one study, ED, I'm not going to say what, you know,

00:17:11.420 the thing where you have trouble getting, you know, affected less than 1% of former SSRI users.

00:17:19.340 While another found that genital numbness impacted at least 13% of those surveyed.

00:17:25.340 Numbness. I never heard about that as a sign of this either. No.

00:17:28.700 Yeah. But either way, PSSD may have urgent implications for young people. So this is,

00:17:34.300 this is where I think you're missing the importance of the effect of this with regard to,

00:17:41.100 we'll say like relationship formation and everything.

00:17:43.580 And it is important to note to what Simone's doing that progressives take

00:17:48.940 psychoactive medications like SSRIs. Well, I'm going to go into the stats on this in a little bit.

00:17:52.940 Yeah. But first I just want to point out why this matters. So it is well known that SSRIs do have

00:17:59.100 a sexual doling effect in general. As the author points out, quote, because of their predictable

00:18:05.820 doling effects, SSRIs have long been used as an off label treatment for premature ejaculation,

00:18:12.300 which also I didn't know, but like they're so well known to cause problems that they're like,

00:18:17.420 oh, you're coming too fast here, take an SSRI. But what's underplayed is how SSRIs will affect what

00:18:24.700 we would argue matters more, which is interest in dating at all. Like high school crushes and

00:18:29.900 infatuation, which is what was pointed to in that first anecdote, which is why I wanted to read it.

00:18:34.700 So serotonin plays a really distinct and evolving role in infatuation and love bonding. Like I'm not

00:18:40.700 even talking about the act of sex or making out or anything physical. I'm talking literally about

00:18:45.820 like this stuff that gets people to date and maybe eventually get married and like be interested in

00:18:50.460 the opposite sex. During early stage infatuation, serotonin levels tend to decrease, which is a

00:18:56.700 change linked to obsessive intrusive thoughts and behaviors frequently described as the hallmark

00:19:01.980 feature of new romantic attraction. But what else? Oh, also like OCD and anxiety, which is what SSRIs

00:19:08.860 are meant to treat. So the problem is if people are taking SSRIs to treat things like obsessive compulsive

00:19:15.660 disorder or, you know, that you're also treating that sort of, I can't stop thinking about you

00:19:22.460 infatuation associated with early love, you're making it impossible for people to experience

00:19:29.020 the thrill of limerence and new relationship energy, which we've had people who listen to this podcast

00:19:35.980 be like, man, like, you know, I have thriving young kids, but they're just not really interested

00:19:40.860 in dating at all. And the thing is like, if you don't feel crushes, if you don't feel that infatuation,

00:19:48.220 why would you bother? Honestly, like, it's just all downside, not upside. I think it's

00:19:52.780 one of the, one of the few things that really gets people. This is so fun that now when somebody tells

00:19:57.820 you like, I'm asexual or aromantic, you can just be like, are you on SSRIs? Just to,

00:20:02.780 because you know, like 80% of the time, the answer is going to be yes. And you're going to be,

00:20:06.460 it's probably the SSRI. Yeah. It's, it's just the SSRI or yeah. Yeah. Or, you know, yeah. Just

00:20:11.500 same with like, I can't imagine how, how, how like blown top a progressive is going to be if you pull

00:20:18.780 out on them. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably the SSRI. Well, and also the, the, it's, it's not just,

00:20:24.940 so I just, I want to point that out though, like in terms of like the larger people aren't getting

00:20:29.900 married problem. I think one of the few things that did get people out and dating when otherwise 0.75

00:20:34.740 it's just so scary is that thrill and the thrill is being robbed of them. The thing is, is they're

00:20:41.520 also like not even that effective. I remember the period I was on SSRIs. I did not feel any different.

00:20:46.580 Like I certainly wasn't happier. No, really. So wildly, there was actually a study on this,

00:20:51.400 a meta-analysis in 2022 in molecular psychiatry, which showed SSRIs outperformed

00:20:56.900 placebos by only a very thin margin with an effect size of only 0.3, which is no better

00:21:04.800 than exercise or therapy. So they're tanking their sexuality and fertility for nothing, 0.62

00:21:13.660 for no real benefit. And if you want to come at me and be like, oh no, SSRIs would work so well for me.

00:21:19.780 It's like, yeah, placebos are really good. Like placebos actually do work very effectively.

00:21:24.140 If you are curious how out of control things have gotten, there was a study called Antidepressant

00:21:29.860 Dispensing to Youth, Adolescents, and Young Adults 2016 to 2022 that was looking at how much

00:21:36.380 the rate of SSRI prescriptions had increased over that period. So if we go from 2016 to 2022 and we're

00:21:43.440 looking at females age 12 to 17, the rate of prescriptions increased 129.6%. If we look at

00:21:51.840 females age 18 to 25, it increased 56.5%. If we look at males age 12 to 17, there was not an

00:22:01.340 increase. And if we look at males age 18 to 25, there was not an increase, which I think correlates

00:22:07.300 strongly with females becoming more progressive here. Because as we've seen in many, many other

00:22:11.600 studies, progressives are way lower on happiness ratings in conservatives and haven't been since

00:22:16.700 the Pew started recording the data on this. But it's been getting worse over time. And progressive

00:22:21.840 both depression and anxiety symptoms are way higher than they are in conservatives. Same

00:22:27.020 with females. And this is increasing over time.

00:22:29.320 Truth is the enemy of happiness. Have you had your joy, Ollie?

00:22:35.100 People in town are unaliving at unprecedented rates and nobody's having kids anymore.

00:22:40.180 And they're paint in the streets and rainbows. Have you not noticed?

00:22:45.380 Oh, Ollie. 0.99

00:22:47.360 Why are you all wearing those ridiculous nails? 0.99

00:22:50.460 Gender identities. 0.99

00:22:51.720 You should get one. They shape your face into a smile. And when you smile, you can't help being

00:22:58.160 happy.

00:22:59.120 We have to tell people. They need to know the truth.

00:23:04.520 No. It's better not to know.

00:23:07.660 We are practically the only two people in this entire city, not stoned out of our minds on joy.

00:23:12.620 Yeah.

00:23:12.860 The way that one person in the article described it who was taking SSRIs for anxiety or something

00:23:17.580 was that it didn't make the anxiety go away. It, like, provided a moat around it. So, like,

00:23:22.540 it was there, but it couldn't get to him as easily. Is that kind of how it felt? Because I

00:23:25.820 don't, I don't know.

00:23:26.380 No, literally nothing. Not different in any way.

00:23:29.980 Also, no wonder you took it for only such a short period of time. But the New York Times also

00:23:34.380 points to other ways SSRIs may be causing sexual dysfunction. So Bergner, the author,

00:23:39.660 interviewed Dr. Erwin Goldstein, who's a clinical professor of urology at the University of California,

00:23:44.460 San Diego. He's a specialist in sexual medicine who sees about 50 to 75 new patients each year for

00:23:51.180 ED. And here's a quote from the article. Dr. Goldstein has been researching the role of SSRIs

00:23:57.260 in his patient's ED problems and noted that SSRIs can cause an overproduction of what

00:24:03.180 are called oxygen radicals, leading to scarring and malfunctioning. The physiological effect of

00:24:10.380 SSRIs within the, can I say, can I say the P word? Within the PP, within the FWIPI, as our children

00:24:16.940 call it. Within the FWIPI, technical term. Scarring in the FWIPI? In the FWIPI. Yes,

00:24:23.180 scarring in the FWIPI looked closely akin to the impact of aging and diseases that are well-established

00:24:29.420 contributors true to ED. So it's scarring your FWIPI. Also, recent studies have linked SSRIs

00:24:37.340 just to lower sexual performance. So Bergner noted in a 2010 study published in Biological Psychiatry,

00:24:44.780 researchers gave male rats a generic Prozac at the age of rat adolescence, allowed sufficient time

00:24:51.420 for the drug to clear from their system. So again, they're not on it anymore, then monitored the male's

00:24:57.100 sexual behavior in adulthood when they went in the presence of a receptive female. Compared with a

00:25:04.380 control group, the previously medicated rats were much slower to mount and took much longer from 0.68

00:25:10.380 starting sex to ejaculation. And within any one session, ejaculated much less often. Not all

00:25:17.180 similar experiments have produced data quite so definitive. And results with female subjects have

00:25:22.780 been a bit more blurry, maybe because female rodent sexuality is trickier to measure. But all in all,

00:25:29.500 the rodent research carries cautionary implications. So the SSRIs are scarring the FWIPIs,

00:25:36.860 and they're making the male rats who took it in adolescence mount more slowly, ejaculate less,

00:25:44.540 and ejacuate later. So, ejacuate. It's not good, okay? It just seems like from soup to nuts,

00:25:53.020 almost literally. From soup to nuts, literally. You're kidding. You, Simone. You're welcome.

00:25:59.180 This is how the abuse starts. Bad jokes. I'm a mom. It's a mom joke. It was so funny

00:26:09.340 to watch a fan doing like a reaction to our content because they were like recording like what they

00:26:14.540 thought and just watching somebody watch our content and regularly crack up. I'm like, oh,

00:26:19.660 I didn't realize that people are like actually laughing when we start laughing at things. Well,

00:26:24.700 we have fun. We have fun here. But yeah, so like literally from limerence, from like getting a crush

00:26:30.940 on someone to actually nutting inside them, you're, you're, you're completely getting,

00:26:35.580 getting screwed over by SSRIs. And yes, leftists use more SSRIs. I mean, there's not obviously direct

00:26:42.140 survey data or like prescriptions on like- I want to hear, I want to hear the data here. Come on.

00:26:46.300 Large national surveys consistently show that liberals or Democrats report worse mental health

00:26:51.260 outcomes than conservatives or Republicans. And the gap has widened in recent years.

00:26:55.740 And you know, it's not because they're taking fewer drugs or seeing the psychologist last.

00:27:00.060 I'm, oh no, that has certainly nothing to do with it. I am absolutely confident. There are two great

00:27:05.180 studies you can look to at this. If you want the South, whichever one in the comments is like,

00:27:10.060 where are the links to the articles? Well, if you paid to subscribe on Substack or Patreon,

00:27:15.980 thank you so much to our supporters, by the way. I linked to the studies that we

00:27:20.460 look at in our episode- Wait, you do?

00:27:22.780 Yeah. Which I put in, I, I, I, I put in the, the Substack and Patreon articles.

00:27:27.980 Nerd. Yeah. So anyway, but for those listening, I'm going to throw you a bone.

00:27:33.420 See distressed Democrats and relaxed Republicans, partisanship and mental health during the COVID-19

00:27:39.820 pandemic. That's the title of one study.

00:27:41.660 These people, they lack the ability to Google stuff. I swear. That's the title. That's the

00:27:47.340 title. Google another title, the politics of depression, diverging trends and internalizing

00:27:52.380 symptoms among us adolescents by political beliefs. So the first study I just named,

00:27:57.260 they found that Democrats reported consistently higher levels of mental distress than Republicans

00:28:02.060 during the pandemic, that this, this partisan distress gap predated the pandemic, but was exacerbated

00:28:08.380 by it, especially among white Americans and white Democrats experienced the greatest increase in

00:28:15.180 distress resulting in a widening distress gap between Democrats and white Republicans. Well, 0.63

00:28:20.620 both white Democrats and Republicans. And then the second one, the politics of depression one,

00:28:24.780 found that all adolescents show a rising internalizing symptoms, but increases are most pronounced among

00:28:31.420 female liberals. Big surprise, especially those with low parental education, which I hadn't heard 1.00

00:28:37.900 before. Female liberal adolescents have the largest increase in highest absolute scores for depressive

00:28:43.580 affect, particularly those from less privileged backgrounds. So trailer trash girls, watch out. 1.00

00:28:49.180 And male conservative adolescents had the lowest increases and the best scores across internalizing 0.92

00:28:55.100 syndrome scales. So basically. Across people who rate their mental health as poor or who screened

00:29:00.860 positive for depression, a greater proportion identifies liberal than conservative, but also conservatives are

00:29:07.260 less likely to seek mental health treatment or to acknowledge mental health problems, which suggests some

00:29:13.180 of the difference may just reflect reporting bias. But here's the thing is if you don't report it and you don't

00:29:20.140 get treated for it, you're not going on SSRIs. And if you're not going on SSRIs, you're not essentially

00:29:26.060 downstream going to sterilize yourself through all these negative sexual effects.

00:29:29.900 But should we be disrupting the cycle to get rid of the progressives that they're, 0.98

00:29:35.420 they're, they're, they're infected with parasites and taking drugs that lower their arousal patterns? 1.00

00:29:40.860 They just want to die. They just, they just want to end the cycle, Malcolm. Maybe,

00:29:47.260 maybe we should just, I don't know, let them, let them put themselves out of their misery. But for those

00:29:52.940 who want to see more research on that front, see mental health and mental health care utilization across

00:29:57.900 political affiliation and U.S. adults, all right, for the source people. But anyway,

00:30:01.980 an important side note, doctors, like I was saying at the beginning of this, are largely not telling

00:30:06.700 patients, even adults, about sexual side effects. So from the article, I found this was really

00:30:11.660 interesting. The author writes, Peggy J. Kleinenplatz, a professor of medicine at the University of Ottawa,

00:30:18.300 told me about the moment that shed light on how family physicians and other primary care providers

00:30:23.340 who write the majority of SSRI prescriptions in the United States and Canada, might be thinking

00:30:27.660 about informed consent with patients. In 2019, Kleinenplatz gave a presentation to family physicians

00:30:34.460 at a Canadian medical conference. She asked her audience of some 50 doctors, how many of them

00:30:39.820 were aware of the sexual side effects of SSRIs? 80% raised their hands, she estimated. She asked how

00:30:45.980 many informed their patients about these effects when they prescribed. Just one hand went up. Then

00:30:52.620 she asked why they didn't. They said it's a matter of patient compliance. To inform about potential

00:30:58.540 sexual side effects they worried was to risk the patient not taking the drug the doctor thought

00:31:05.100 necessary. So basically... That's fantastic. That's fantastic. They're not telling their

00:31:10.940 patients. They're like, I think the drug is more important than your sex life. And the patient may

00:31:16.300 disagree. Consider that in an entire room of psychologists and psychiatrists, only one was

00:31:24.380 willing to warn their patients about this. I think that that shows what we often talk about here, which is

00:31:28.540 to say you should be viewing these fields as adversarial to you. They do not care about you

00:31:35.260 in maths. To find a good one is almost impossible. You should be looking for other solutions to these

00:31:42.140 types of problems if you have them. And when we're talking about SSRIs, you can see our other videos

00:31:46.540 on this. Keep in mind this is me who has a degree in neuroscience and a minor in psychology and who worked

00:31:53.740 in the UT Southwestern Translational Neuroscience department. So I worked as a psychologist in like

00:31:59.500 the most difficult capacity you can. And I am saying that the place that these industries have gone

00:32:06.780 is antagonistic to you. And when you look at these really high rates of anxiety that people have,

00:32:13.420 if you look at these really high rates of depression people have today, and we've done other videos on

00:32:17.180 this, you see them more in people that are more privileged, especially in women that are more

00:32:22.700 privileged. And we argue that what is likely causing them is that females are just not meant 1.00

00:32:28.860 to be in environments where they have no real threats to them. And so if they are, especially

00:32:33.980 at a young age, they invent threats and their brain basically breaks down.

00:32:39.500 Well, and that, yeah, I think that's just so interesting that like the left is all about

00:32:43.420 hedonistic pleasure and everything, but they're also like, I don't care if this sterilizes you or causes,

00:32:48.860 you know, there's, I think it's very much part of this trust the science or like just trust

00:32:53.900 authorities thing of like, I know better. Yeah. My doctor told me to take it. So I'm doing it.

00:32:59.100 Well, but also like, I know what's best for them. And I'm just going to go ahead and override what

00:33:03.980 might be a preference in favor of something else because I know best. And so I'm just not going to tell

00:33:08.780 them. But of course this is really exacerbated with teens because even I would be like really hesitant

00:33:15.820 to prescribe a teen boy or girl in SSRI. And even if I told adults about the sexual side effects,

00:33:21.980 like imagine how pissed a mom would be at you as a doctor. If you were like, listen, little Cindy Lou, 1.00

00:33:27.500 who like, I don't know if you want to take this. Cause it might mess with your sex drive. And like, 0.98

00:33:32.060 you know, here's this mother being like, how dare you? I can just imagine one of those scenes where like, 1.00

00:33:35.980 the parent is getting an increasingly horrified face in the background. It's just like boiling

00:33:40.700 with rage. Yes. Yes. It's like, of course. And I think that that probably means, I mean,

00:33:47.260 maybe sentiment, as you've pointed out against SSRI is just plummeting is going to be enough to kind of,

00:33:53.980 I don't know, get people to stop taking them in mass. But in general, the incentives are such that

00:34:00.540 this issue is not going to get resolved. The discussion around PSSD has been going since like

00:34:08.140 2004. Nothing has really changed. And the incentives just aren't there. Like doctors prescribing these

00:34:14.460 SSRIs to kids have no incentive to bring up the sexual side effects. These teens are then going

00:34:20.460 through decades of taking these and dealing with adverse effects for the rest of their lives. But kind

00:34:25.580 of, there's no accountability chain. And it's kind of hard to tell where these problems are coming

00:34:30.540 from. And no one's getting paid to find out the root of the problem. Like no one profits from it.

00:34:35.900 So no one's going to dig deeper. And I do admire and appreciate the New York Times for covering this

00:34:41.100 and pointing this out as an issue to a largely progressive audience, because at least we're giving

00:34:45.180 them the chance to. What if they start breeding again? What if they start dating again? 0.97

00:34:49.420 It's too late, Malcolm. There's no changing it. Also, we have to consider all the other factors

00:34:54.700 that are sexually dampening or sterilizing populations, also largely left populations.

00:35:00.380 I mean, arguably parasites and other diseases, as we discussed in our episode.

00:35:04.060 But those make them more sexual.

00:35:06.140 Well, they make them more sexual, but in non-reproductive ways. So those who remain sexual

00:35:10.540 are now like just getting toxoplasmosis and just having like fellatia. Also,

00:35:14.940 keep in mind that the people who with toxoplasmosis had lower sperm motility and lower sperm count.

00:35:20.380 So even when they did actually manage to come inside someone, they were not as likely to lead to,

00:35:27.260 you know, a live birth. Plus, of course, we have the endocrine disruptor issue.

00:35:30.700 We're constantly talking about who we're fighting against, the infected, the swarm.

00:35:35.580 We're constantly talking about the TIDE studies, which, which showed that.

00:35:38.620 Oh yeah, people in that other video had forgotten that we always talk about the TIDE studies.

00:35:42.540 Yeah. Higher levels of endocrine disruptors and first trimester blood work in pregnant women

00:35:47.660 as measured by these studies, the TIDES studies, if you want to look them up again.

00:35:51.500 We provide references to things that you can look up, people.

00:35:54.540 People don't know how to do that. They don't know how to type.

00:36:00.140 Anyway, I need to create an itemized list for our daily videos.

00:36:04.220 Yeah. Well, that's, that's what they're asking for. Like I said, I provide linked outlines and

00:36:10.860 everything, all my notes and everything when I, when we, but on Patreon and Substack. So sorry,

00:36:14.940 guys, you got to show some support.

00:36:17.020 Yeah. And why aren't you guys, you know, everyone should be subscribed on Patreon. We do

00:36:20.620 weekend, weekend episodes of other weekend episodes, even all of it. I, we, we, we,

00:36:25.020 they're very different structures in the weekday episodes. They're typically just like an idea we're

00:36:29.500 still trying to think through or like something that I don't see stuff, personal stuff. It's,

00:36:35.020 it's fun. I really like them and our communities.

00:36:37.740 Some of this like really useful, like the one about how you do large batch meals.

00:36:41.980 Yeah. And like our travel tips and stuff like that. Anyway, if there's, there's more, if you

00:36:46.460 want it to subscribe on Patreon, but yeah. So there's endocrine disruptors that are causing

00:36:51.260 even people from like in utero, like men to become less male, their endogenital distance is shorter when

00:36:56.220 they come out, meaning like basically like, again, they're flippy didn't make it all the way up to

00:37:00.540 like the front, you know, it's, it's, it's closer into the, to the, the anus, but also they're expressing

00:37:07.340 less gender dimorphic play. And when they're like eight years old, you know, so people are becoming less

00:37:13.260 male because of endocrine disruptors. Plus, you know, also just in general, endocrine disruptors,

00:37:19.020 which include like BPAs, phthalates, dioxins, polychlorinated biphenyls, pesticides, parabens,

00:37:27.980 some heavy metals, like all of these things are endocrine disruptors. They in women cause lower

00:37:33.820 fertility, menstrual irregularities, polycystic ovary, ovary system syndrome. That's that's PCOS and

00:37:41.180 endometriosis, premature menopause, uterine and ovarian dysfunction, also increased risk of miscarriage

00:37:48.380 and pregnancy complications. And in men, endocrine disruptors can decrease sperm count and quality,

00:37:55.820 they can reduce testosterone, they can cause genital malformations, like I pointed out,

00:38:00.380 and also increase the risk of testicular and prostate cancers. So, I mean, it's like, okay,

00:38:07.020 the SSRIs, they're just, they're just the cherry on top, but they're a cherry on top that 0.78

00:38:12.780 disproportionately affects progressives, and especially progressive youth.

00:38:17.900 Yeah, it most feels like they're meant to sort of like, what's the word of this? Like,

00:38:21.900 numb them to the world, right? Like, to make them less likely to rebel, almost. It's like,

00:38:27.820 it's literally like one of the- The opiate of the masses.

00:38:30.300 What is that from a show or something?

00:38:35.580 Are you serious?

00:38:37.660 Opiate of the masses? No, I didn't hear what you said, yeah. No, I'm thinking more like that scene

00:38:41.500 from Squiders with the pills, where, you know, everyone in society is forced to take these pills to,

00:38:47.260 you know- Oh!

00:38:48.780 Imagine a world where the government regulates drugs.

00:38:53.340 What did you give?

00:38:54.460 Trent Paul, a standard mood elevator.

00:38:56.220 By getting everyone hooked on them.

00:39:00.300 Everybody's on something. Everybody but us.

00:39:03.500 You don't know what it's going to do to them, Damon.

00:39:07.260 Oh, yeah. Well, and also like, there's the concept of Soma in Brave New World,

00:39:11.260 a Soma in time saves nine. It's basically like popping a Xanax or something, or you're just like,

00:39:16.300 just chill. A Soma in time saves nine. 0.82

00:39:20.540 I love Brave New World. That dystopia is my utopia. Everyone takes perfume showers,

00:39:28.300 they're constantly popping Xanax, and they're just having a great time. I don't see what the

00:39:32.700 problem is. They're cloned, I think, or like genetically designed to be good at their jobs,

00:39:40.380 and born into like their striated portion of society, but really happy to be in it.

00:39:45.260 So like you can be an alpha or a beta or a gamma, and you just grow up being like,

00:39:49.740 man, I'm so glad I'm not a beta, because like you're a gamma or an alpha,

00:39:53.420 and you're just really happy to be what you are. You die before you get old. But also like when 0.97

00:39:58.140 you're young, you go to hospitals to watch the people die. So you're like, oh, okay,

00:40:02.460 so this is how it works. And then you get like incinerated in a way that generates energy for the

00:40:07.020 city. So it's all very efficient. I'm like, this is this is perfect. What's wrong with this?

00:40:11.500 Everything's great. Like, sign me up. Where is this world? Everything instead of like cool,

00:40:18.700 their word for cool is pneumatic. Like, oh, it's so pneumatic. Everyone drives around in these cool

00:40:23.980 helicopter things. Like, why do people think I just was so confused when I read this in college

00:40:30.940 and went to my honors class and like trotted up and was like so excited to talk about this world.

00:40:35.260 Like, guys, how do we make this happen? Like, let's do this. Okay. Like, let's go. You do the

00:40:40.860 helicopters. I'll do the Soma. Like, let's regroup. Someone build the conditioning chambers.

00:40:47.820 They had this thing also because this was written by Aldous Huxley right when operant conditioning

00:40:53.500 was considered to be this whole new exciting thing of like, oh my gosh, like you can shape human

00:40:58.460 behavior. So the whole idea was that these casts of society, the alphas and the betas and the gammas,

00:41:04.620 as babies, because they were all like, they were made in artificial wombs and like sort of cloned 1.00

00:41:08.780 and like made in a lab. And then they would be raised in big groups by like designated like nanny

00:41:13.500 minders. And the, the way they were conditioned is they'd listen to these sayings over and over and

00:41:19.100 over. Like, I'm so glad I'm not a camera. I'm so glad I'm not a camera. But then like also like,

00:41:24.220 I think electrify the floors or something, or like some, I can't remember exactly what it was, but like

00:41:31.180 they would expose the babies to something that they weren't supposed to like, like a rose or

00:41:35.260 something. So they wouldn't get like overly concerned with like, I don't know if feet

00:41:41.020 aesthetics or something. And then it would, they like, they would electrify the floor and shock all

00:41:45.020 the babies. I'll build a floor shocker, but like, and just, I loved it. I loved it. I would never,

00:41:54.300 I would never believe in shocking babies. So I would change that about brave new world. No,

00:41:58.060 no, no, being mean to the babies, just positive reinforcement, never negative reinforcement.

00:42:01.900 But well, we do a lot of negative reinforcement with our kids, Malcolm. I'm sorry,

00:42:09.020 but it's positive reinforcement.

00:42:11.020 How many times have our kids said, hit me again, daddy.

00:42:14.060 No, I hear some worrying things for my kids.

00:42:17.980 Yeah, they literally like beg, they beg to be hit. I don't know what to say.

00:42:23.340 They'll run up and then do something like poke me and then run away and be like, come on, 0.81

00:42:27.580 hit me, daddy.

00:42:28.300 I know the first thing that I go downstairs to like help Malcolm dress the kids. The first thing that

00:42:32.940 happens is I get punched in the spine. He's like, come at me, bro. They just want to fight. 0.89

00:42:40.220 They love it so much. Yeah. You think it's negative reinforcement? Nice try. I don't, I don't,

00:42:44.620 I don't bop at all. Um, because they had too much fun with it. I just, I just take things away at this

00:42:51.020 point. That's my whole thing is like, okay, you, you wanted to use that as a weapon. You don't have

00:42:55.820 it anymore. Like I, it's just, that's the only thing that's working for me. I don't know what's working

00:42:59.980 for you anyway. Oh my God. I can only imagine if, if somebody who was into like little girl,

00:43:09.260 daddy, Dom play, right. If they said the stuff that our kids say to me on a regular basis,

00:43:15.260 people would be like, that's dark. Like you need to stop. Like, don't be like, hit me, daddy.

00:43:21.580 Oh, and with the worst thing is, is especially now that Alexa devices, Amazon Alexa devices have

00:43:27.500 updated their AI and there's, there's a broadcasting feature. If you have a lot of

00:43:31.820 them in your house, you can use them basically as an intercom system. And it used to just be,

00:43:36.140 and you can do this with a Google home device too. Google home device now still continues to just

00:43:41.020 give a recording of your voice when you use the intercom system. But what Alexa does now is instead 0.99

00:43:47.820 broadcast the message in her voice. So now it's just, it makes it sound extra sexual when our

00:43:54.780 children send basic messages. It's Alexa. It's this woman who's like, daddy, daddy.

00:44:12.300 Daddy, I'm thirsty. It's so bad. It sounds so horrible. It's like an adult woman's voice. 1.00

00:44:18.780 And it's just this, yeah, because like they're, they're trying to make like this maximally

00:44:23.500 like appealing, kind of, kind of cheerful, kind of alluring female voice,

00:44:28.620 except it's our children saying, daddy, comma, stop. Like, daddy, come down for dinner.

00:44:34.620 Daddy, I'm thirsty. And it's just, it's no, no, I guess we're too perverted.

00:44:39.500 Daddy, I'm thirsty. Daddy, I'm tired of waiting. Come downstairs.

00:44:43.660 You know, it's so bad. It's so, I think maybe we're too degen for it. Like normal, 1.00

00:44:49.420 normal people would not. Normal people don't hear a woman's voice. Come on. 1.00

00:44:53.740 Cause I don't hear daddy from adult women that much. Like, no, no, because the only context in

00:44:58.940 which adult women say that actually, you know what? No, no. So like, I know that for a fact, 0.99

00:45:04.460 since the like fifties and sixties, this has been an issue because it recall in gentlemen,

00:45:09.900 prefer blondes, what Marilyn Monroe's character refers to her partner as his daddy in a very 1.00

00:45:17.260 sexual way. Hmm. Do you not remember? I do. So, I mean, but it was still sexual.

00:45:24.780 It's yeah, it's extremely sexual. So, so it's not us being degens. It's just Alexa being,

00:45:30.300 making everything funny, especially

00:45:36.940 when our children decide to use poop jokes.

00:45:40.140 Oh, they always, they love going, because they think that it's like a bad thing to do. So they

00:45:44.460 love saying it into Alexa. Yeah. And so they'll be like, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, pee,

00:45:49.900 poop. And it's just Alexa, a grown woman in my room going like, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop. 1.00

00:45:56.700 Daddy, poop, poop, poop, daddy, poop. And then, because we can see on the cameras what they're

00:46:02.460 doing, they turn to each other and they're so excited. I just said poop on the thing. I just

00:46:06.940 did it. Can you believe I did it? And it was like, oh, and the other one's like, oh, anyway,

00:46:12.540 I'll let you go. We are just going to do. So watch the video I sent you for food tonight

00:46:17.020 on how to do the marinade marinade of the Mongolian. It has very explicit instructions on how to handle it.

00:46:23.900 And then how we cook it tomorrow. In terms of what I'm eating tonight. I'm going to do a little

00:46:27.820 bit tonight. So of the marinade that's mostly for overnight, I'm going to marinate some of it

00:46:32.300 for 30 minutes so that we can make the rest of the noodles for you tonight, right? To do that.

00:46:37.260 Okay. That works for me. Yeah. You just throw it in with a lot of chives.

00:46:39.660 Unless there's something else you wanted tonight.

00:46:42.380 No. Do we have more noodles to cook or cook?

00:46:44.300 I have noodles. Well, that's the whole thing is I pre-did some of those egg noodles to have

00:46:49.100 them sit in the fridge and dry out essentially. Cause you really want them to, you personally

00:46:53.020 wanted them dry. Well, I mean, I want them to fry on the pan, you know? Yeah. So that's why I was

00:46:57.500 like, well, what happens if I refrigerate them for one or two days and then we fry them up?

00:47:01.740 Will they be better? So I either have to use them or get rid of them.

00:47:05.260 No, let's go for it. Okay. All right.

00:47:09.500 We've got a lot of chives left. We got new chives coming in.

00:47:11.820 And extra peppers. Do you want me to also just do some of those new peppers that you got?

00:47:15.900 Mix them in with. Oh, absolutely. But you need to cook those for a little bit. Like those actually

00:47:19.740 do need to be cooked a bit. Okay. So you just slice them.

00:47:23.260 I might actually do those in like a separate pan, like saute them in a separate pan that doesn't

00:47:27.420 produce that much smoke. Cause you know how we like. Oh yeah. How we overcook the house.

00:47:32.060 When we do anything in the wok, cause we have no, we cook in a very old kitchen that was built

00:47:37.900 like at the, like 200 years ago. There is no ventilation. So when I cook on the wok,

00:47:44.860 our whole house is full of smoke. It smells good though.

00:47:49.500 I love you. You are amazing. And thank you for being a part of my life.

00:47:55.020 Thank you.

00:47:58.060 Good episode, by the way. I love the topic.

00:48:00.620 It's an interesting one. Yeah. Okay. Off I go. I love you.

00:48:04.380 I love you too.

00:48:05.340 Okay. Oh, trivia. What was Walt Disney's favorite food?

00:48:13.020 What was Walt Disney's favorite food?

00:48:15.980 Hot dogs.

00:48:17.260 Hot dogs. That's a good old American food there.

00:48:20.220 When he was building Disneyland, when it was under construction, he insisted on calling all

00:48:24.860 the attractions, weenies. So he's like, we got a weenie here. We got a weenie there. I think he

00:48:29.020 just referred to them as weenies. He was a strange man.

00:48:32.140 His obsession with trains actually predated the creation of Disneyland. He had a

00:48:37.740 a train, a giant train set in his his backyard. I mean, it was it was big, like it was enough

00:48:43.580 where you could ride in it. He actually shut it down after some party at his house where it like

00:48:51.900 someone was driving it too fast and it derailed and the girl got hurt. I mean, she was okay,

00:48:55.820 but she was burned by the steam. So, but yeah, he was a train obsessive.

00:49:00.060 It was his steam engine too?

00:49:01.660 Yeah, no, it was his steam engine.

00:49:03.100 No, he liked, he liked old, loud, clanky trains. In fact, that train that goes around Disneyland

00:49:08.620 and Anaheim, you know, the original Disneyland, when he went on the first test drive of it,

00:49:13.580 he was irate with the team that built it. Do you know why?

00:49:17.340 It's too quiet?

00:49:18.300 Yes, it was too quiet. And they had to explain to him, they're like, well, it's a it's a new

00:49:24.300 well-built train. And he's like, make it louder. And they had to literally take the engine apart

00:49:30.700 and put it together shoddily.

00:49:33.420 But he's right. That's the real experience.

00:49:39.340 No, it's true. Like he really understood. The word that came to mind was mouthfeel.

00:49:45.580 He really understood like the mouthfeel of Disney, the patina that you need to have that experience

00:49:52.460 of, of this authentic American thing. Yeah. Like a train that wasn't loud and clinky and noisy

00:49:59.820 wouldn't feel authentic in the same way. So I just love that. Oh, weenies.

00:50:10.780 Okay. What are you guys working on?

00:50:14.140 What is this that you're drawing?

00:50:15.180 I'm drawing my Christmas tree while it's Among Us presents.

00:50:24.860 Oh, so you want Among Us presents?

00:50:26.300 Yeah, I want Among Us plus presents for Christmas.

00:50:30.700 What about you, Indy? You got anything you're up to?

00:50:34.620 Yep.

00:50:35.020 Torsen? Torsen?

00:50:40.140 Octavian, earlier this morning, you said the mice are retreating. Can you tell me about that?

00:50:43.420 Yeah, the mice are retreating.

00:50:45.580 Why are they? How do you know they're retreating?

00:50:46.940 Because they're dying from the mouth trap. The men don't die from the mouth trap.

00:50:56.140 That makes sense. So I got a question for you.

00:51:02.300 Can you tell people to like and subscribe? What will they get if they like and subscribe?

00:51:05.340 Um, we are going to make, um, if you like and subscribe, then we are going to actually make

00:51:13.420 another like cube with a new person.

00:51:17.500 Oh, it's me.

00:51:21.340 Yeah.

00:51:21.660 So you're going to come to their house in a cube?

00:51:23.660 No.

00:51:24.860 Like there's going to be another like wine box.

00:51:28.380 Um, uh, and I'm going to be in the video.

00:51:32.300 We're going to be in the video because you gave us comments about we, you really, really,

00:51:39.100 really making me in the video. So in fact, if you put us, if we put you in the video, then

00:51:47.420 we will get, then you will get a double subscriber and I'll also bring the like and subscribe button

00:51:55.100 if we get it on one video.

00:51:57.900 That makes a lot of sense, Octavian.

00:51:59.340 Yeah, yeah. So if you like and subscribe, you're getting that video.

00:52:04.940 Well, the ticket, we need a ticket and the ticket is if you actually did like and subscribe.

00:52:13.020 Like and subscribe and tell me in the comment below and actually send me for real life.

Based Camp - November 17, 2025

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