NYT Freak Out： SSRIs Mass Sterilizing the Left
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Summary
A recent article in The New York Times explores the link between SSRIs and sex dysfunction in teens and their ability to have a healthy relationship with the opposite sex. In this episode, we talk about the potential link between antidepressants and reduced sexual development in teens, and how this could have long-lasting effects.
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Hello, Malcolm. I'm excited to be speaking with you today because we're going to be talking about
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how leftists are being sterilized by SSRIs. We've already touched on the fact that fertility rates
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among the people on the left and the right are diverging and more quickly than before,
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that sort of the left is just tanking. They're circling the drain of society at this point.
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Faster and faster. Screaming into the void. It's clearly, it's cultural. We've also talked about
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how maybe it's also a result of infectious disease and parasites disproportionately.
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I'd also point out that SSRIs more broadly have become known as like really negative. So I decided
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to run a sentiment analysis on next X of what people are saying about SSRIs. Oh yeah. 80% of
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the posts right now on X about SSRIs are negative with only 10% being positive and 10% being neutral.
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Oh, that's very interesting. And we can go into that more later in this, but yeah,
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basically everyone is now like SSRI. Well, growing up, it felt like there was this campaign
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to normalize SSRIs really, really strongly. Like everybody needs to be on them. They're this
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miracle drug. And now I think now that media has sort of decentralized and you can't have these
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centralized campaigns anymore. People's individual experiences are coming through.
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Wow. Okay. Yeah. I mean, so that there's that obviously people are becoming increasingly critical
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of them, but it, it may be that largely left-leaning young people specifically are throwing off their
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sexual development by taking SSRIs. And the New York times is trying to raise awareness about this,
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which is huge and really interesting because I didn't think about this element of it. So according
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to a recent article in New York times magazine, quote, depending on the symptom drug and duration
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of use between 30 and 80% of adults taking SSRIs live to varying degrees with diminished desire,
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sensation, and function, according to a 2019 study in the journal of clinical medicine, 30 to 80%
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of adults. 30 to 80%? And it's not just, I thought like, I mean, in the past I've been vaguely aware
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of the fact that if you're on an SSRI, like maybe your sex drive is going to be down. But in this article
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in which the, the author interviews like quite a few people who have experienced issues related to
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SSRIs that are sexual in nature, like sometimes we're just talking about like numbness of intimate
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areas, like beyond just diminished sex drive, like actual pretty serious issues. And the problem
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and what the New York times is really trying to begin to delve into with this article is that when
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this is, is happening to teens, like it's one thing with adults where this is pervasively understood
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and people are aware of it and they're just experiencing real and also lasting effects. When this happens to
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a teen or an adolescent, who's going through sexual development for the first time, this might
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permanently affect the way that they exist sexually kind of is similar to how, you know, if you take
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youth gender medicine as, as, as a kid, it's going to permanently affect your sexual development.
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Maybe SSRIs are doing something similar. It's just that you don't really look at it as youth gender
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medicine. And, and really the crux of this too, is it not only are, are psychiatrists, right? They're
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the ones who prescribe medication. Yes. Psychiatrists prescribe. Not only are they loathe to bring up
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sexual side effects with anyone, but like, if you're about to prescribe an SSRI to, we'll say like a
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teenage boy or girl and their parents present or present, you're not going to talk with them about
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sexual side effects because that's a really good point. What, why are you trying to, why are you
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warning my girl that she's not going to want to have sex? I don't want her to have sex. Like what,
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what, you know, like, so this is, it's one of those issues where there's all these adverse incentives
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at play, but let's get into some of like, just some, I think, illustrative evocative case studies
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that this, this magazine article began with, because I think it helps to sort of set the scene.
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Daniel Bergner interviewed the, that's the author of the article, more than 20 people with PSSD. That's
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post SSRI sexual dysfunction for this article titled more teens are taking antidepressants. It
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could disrupt their sex lives for years. So here's one. I'll just read the quote in which he, he has
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interviewed Marie. Marie began taking fluoxetine, the generic form of Prozac when she was 15,
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the drug and SSRI is selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor was part of her treatment in an outpatient
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program for an eating disorder. It took its toll on her sexuality quote. I was in touch with initial
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sparks of sexual energy, relatively young end quote. She said, remembering crushes as far back as the
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ages of six or seven, shortly before starting on the drug, she was dazzled from a distance by a blue
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eyed hockey player at school, tall and funny and charismatic. She recalled the fluster and fantasies
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he stirred, but on the medication, she fell infatuation. She felt infatuation vanished swiftly.
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And then Marie said, I realized, Oh, I'm not developing new crushes. She had no clue that the drug might be
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the cause. I wasn't informed about sexual side effects. Even at the worst of the eating disorder,
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as the worst of the eating disorder abated, psychiatrists and family doctors told Marie and her parents
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that she should stay on the antidepressant. She complied while trying and failing to escape the sexual
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side effects. She traded fluoxetine for other antidepressants, including Welbutrin, a different
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class of antidepressant, which sometimes prescribed to combat low libido. She's 38 now. So like our age
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and been off psychiatric medication for six years, but sexual desire remains absent quote for me,
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it's just an empty, dark space. She said, there's nothing there. Wow. There's another case that,
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that actually comes from a parent that this guy interviewed, which is, is kind of dark and sad.
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And, and keep in mind, this is, we're talking about longitudinal. Actually, before we get to the
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parent thing, I actually want to take a side note here. I, it is, it is true that SSRIs do,
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lower sexual libido and everything like that. But one of the things that I've been seeing a lot
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online is a lot of women identifying as ACE or talking about how they never really felt,
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you know, attractive, like active arousal towards other people. And Simone is this way too. Like if
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you diagnose her on a spectrum, you'd be ACE, but for Malcolm, like you, you'd be asexual,
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but at least that's what you tell me. I say I'm gay for Malcolm. Yeah. Who's to know if,
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if this isn't just something you tell me to, to keep me happy.
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It's time. I'm no, you know, from the anecdotes of me trying to break into your room at night,
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but you've bolted the door. But the, the, the point I was going to make here is I think that our society,
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because if you live around the urban monoculture, it tells you that your identity is what arouses you,
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you know, like that's the most important part of who you are is the things that arouse you.
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And so, and, and indulging in those things is the best part of life. And I think some people,
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they grow up and a lot of people that grow up and they're just like, but like those things
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aren't that powerful or aren't that great. And I think that for, if you are a teenage guy or girl,
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sexuality might be like a really strong and big part of your life. And in some percent of the
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population, sexuality stays a really strong and big part of their life is the age. However,
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I think in, I might even argue the average person, just like when you're a adult sexuality,
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and I'm talking like thirties here, right. Which this person is, is just not that big a thing. It's,
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it's like not that big a deal. And I think that many people misdiagnose themselves, especially women
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as asexual or not having sexual desire, when what they actually have is reactive sexual desire,
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which over 50% of women have, which means you only get aroused when somebody is actively,
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basically like rubbing on you, acting on you, making a move on you, right. Like you don't,
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you don't just like look at somebody and get turned on in the same way that, that it's being sold
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to you is going to happen. Ooh, interesting theory, because a really big element in the past
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associated with courting often had to do with dancing, like ballroom dancing, waltzing,
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et cetera. I wonder if part of that kind of naturally evolved as a cultural mechanism to
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ignite reactive desire in women. I think it did. And forcing people to touch each other and dance
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around. And in a coordinated fashion also while making eye contact. Yeah. Interesting. But I am going
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to make an argument a little bit later as to why actually this is pretty damaging when it comes to
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even we'll say non-sexual relationship formation. So we'll get there, but one more, one more little
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case study that I was like, Ooh. So reading again from the article, one of the most haunting accounts
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I heard of PSSD came from a parent. Ruth told me that a couple of decades ago, her daughter was
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prescribed Zoloft, an SSRI at 11, 11. Sorry. I just think that's crazy. A biopsychiatrist after humiliating
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incident at school left her feeling out of sorts and anxious. About the prescription, Ruth said,
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I guess I thought it was a good thing. She spoke of her naivete at the time and the blind trust in
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psychiatry. Her daughter wound up staying on the drug for a decade until 2011. Only after the past
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few years has Ruth learned from her daughter about the sexual side effects that she still lives with
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and about her grief. Her erogenous zones don't work, Ruth said. It makes me deeply sad because
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of, because our sexuality, the pleasure we get from our bodies and our intimacy with another person,
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it's such a beautiful experience. It helps us not feel alone. Thinking back, Ruth said, I have a huge,
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terrible regret about allowing her child to be medicated. I can't believe I so easily said yes.
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And I think this is indicative of the broader thing. I'm with you, Malcolm, that like,
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I don't care that much if people aren't feeling intense hedonic pleasure from sex, but I think
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it's still notable. So now basically, as the New York Times article is pointing out, there's this
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slow bubbling rise in discussion about PSSD. More professionals are starting to recognize it. It's
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being a little bit more recognized in academic literature. So for example, the DSM-5, which is the
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most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, states that, quote,
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in most cases, serotonin reuptake inhibitor-induced sexual dysfunction may persist after the agent is
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discontinued. And this is kind of a big deal because I think most people thought that the side effects
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only happen while you're taking the thing, and now it's becoming increasingly recognized to have
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lasting effects. Also from the article, the EU's European Medicines Agency has issued similar words of
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caution, as have regulators in Canada, Australia, Hong Kong, and the United States. Prozac comes with
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a warning about the problem, and advocacy groups for consumers are pushing for the Food and Drug
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Administration to require all SSRIs, the most commonly prescribed class of antidepressants, to
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carry such warnings. So just a little bigger picture thing, how many people are actually on SSRIs? I mean,
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as you pointed out, Malcolm, they are becoming less popular, they're becoming more criticized, but still
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approximately 11% to 13% of American adults report current use of antidepressants with selective
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serotonin reuptake inhibitors, making up the majority of those prescriptions. So one out of 10 people,
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at least in the U.S., is on one of these now. And remember that the side effects are lasting.
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Recent national health surveys. What? Did you take SSRIs? Never. I did. You did? Yeah, I did. I don't
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know for how long. I do remember taking them, but I don't remember for how long. Well, keep in mind,
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my family just didn't believe in... It was never something we talked about. My parents were never
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like, well, we don't believe in taking medicine, but like... Oh yeah, I took SSRIs for only a short
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period. Yeah. And I took lithium for a much longer period. Yeah, but that was only because like your
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mom kind of forced you. Yeah, my mom is crazy. And if we'd act up, she'd be like, oh, this must be
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because there's something wrong with it. Like basically she went through mood swings all the
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time and she would assume that it was us going through a mood string rather than her going through
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a mood swing. Yeah. Because she's like, but you behave so differently between different weeks. And I'm
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like, it's you, mom. Was lithium the thing that paralyzed you? It might've been. Yeah. Something
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caused like bad effects. I stopped taking all the medication. Something that your mom had made you
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take that you were still taking when we met caused you to get like paralyzed sometimes. Yeah. And I
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stopped taking this. It really freaking freaked me out. I don't... What's funny is the drugs that I
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would promote for our kids is all of the drugs that other people would freak out the most about.
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I think Ritalin is a really useful drug for young people. Just get them on amphetamines.
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Um, you know, like you need that to study sometimes, you know, it's hard when it's,
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you know, two years. Well, yeah. Except here's the thing. I kind of question that we'll need them
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because yeah, you need them when you're working within a system that's inherently broken, like
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the school system where you like need to do all these things, but I don't know if our kids are
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going to be playing. I've used it to get like work projects done. It is useful to get stuff done.
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You don't use it now. And you get a lot done. You're insanely productive. You go into deep
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focus all the time. I think also the thing with ADHD and ADD is you focus on stuff, you know,
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to be important and interesting. Yeah. I, well, I literally haven't taken one in like 10 years.
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That's because you do work that you find to be meaningful and interesting.
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Yeah. But as a kid, you'd not, everything you do is going to be meaningful.
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That's fair. I guess. Yeah. It's a, yeah. When you have to learn stuff that you don't think
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is useful and that you don't want to learn. And then of course the other one that I always
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promote on the show and everyone should be on, I think it should just be a mandated drug
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is naltrexone. It's an opioid agonist that prevents addictive pathways from firing in your brain.
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And it completely transformed. Like everything I do is my life. Like the way I spend my time online,
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the way I, you know, like I stopped using social media after it. Like literally I got, I stopped,
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I go to my Facebook account. It's like cobwebs. It used to be the first thing I would check every
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morning. I stopped compulsively refreshing newspaper sites. I stopped compulsively refreshing
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investment tickers. I stopped, you know, like all of the compulsive stuff I would do online.
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It really was a constant thing for you. Yeah. Yeah. That's all that. I mean,
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you are pretty hooked on Korean romance manga. So. You know, you know, what's gotten me off of that
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is, is prepaying for one that I think is like, okay, but pretty boring. So I'm not like drawn to
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it when other things are happening. Getting stuck in a boring one has been great to break my addiction
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because I'm like, well, I prepaid for it. I got to read through the whole thing. Yeah. So, okay.
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About, you know, 10 to 11 to 13% of Americans in general are drinking SSRIs. According to the
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article, about 2 million 12 to 17 year olds in the United States are on SSRIs. One large 2024 study
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in the Journal of American Academy of Pediatrics tallied month by month, the percentage of that age
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group who filled an antidepressant prescription between 2016 and 2022. During that time, the rate
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climbed by 69% with the COVID pandemic's emotional reverberations, almost surely playing a part.
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The notable rise was underway before then among college students in 2023 to 24, according to a
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survey with over 10, 100,000 participants, 22% had taken an antidepressant during the previous year.
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This was up 8% from 2007. So, so keep in mind, young people are taking them more. And actually this,
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this, this, this is totally unrelated this morning. I was going through a British psychology digest in
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my email about there, there used to be this sort of happiness shaped curve with like, sort of how
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happy you were in life where like people were happier when they were young and then very old.
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But now it's just kind of going upward. Like you just get happier as you get older because young
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people are so miserable. So it kind of dovetails with this. Like we, the, the youth mental health crisis
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is real. And a lot of them are turning to SSRIs. But then, you know, in terms of like how many SSRI
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users are affected by this, I don't like, it's, it's hard to tell because the reporting is so shoddy
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in the article that the author writes in one study, ED, I'm not going to say what, you know,
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the thing where you have trouble getting, you know, affected less than 1% of former SSRI users.
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While another found that genital numbness impacted at least 13% of those surveyed.
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Numbness. I never heard about that as a sign of this either. No.
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Yeah. But either way, PSSD may have urgent implications for young people. So this is,
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this is where I think you're missing the importance of the effect of this with regard to,
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we'll say like relationship formation and everything.
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And it is important to note to what Simone's doing that progressives take
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psychoactive medications like SSRIs. Well, I'm going to go into the stats on this in a little bit.
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Yeah. But first I just want to point out why this matters. So it is well known that SSRIs do have
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a sexual doling effect in general. As the author points out, quote, because of their predictable
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doling effects, SSRIs have long been used as an off label treatment for premature ejaculation,
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which also I didn't know, but like they're so well known to cause problems that they're like,
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oh, you're coming too fast here, take an SSRI. But what's underplayed is how SSRIs will affect what
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we would argue matters more, which is interest in dating at all. Like high school crushes and
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infatuation, which is what was pointed to in that first anecdote, which is why I wanted to read it.
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So serotonin plays a really distinct and evolving role in infatuation and love bonding. Like I'm not
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even talking about the act of sex or making out or anything physical. I'm talking literally about
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like this stuff that gets people to date and maybe eventually get married and like be interested in
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the opposite sex. During early stage infatuation, serotonin levels tend to decrease, which is a
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change linked to obsessive intrusive thoughts and behaviors frequently described as the hallmark
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feature of new romantic attraction. But what else? Oh, also like OCD and anxiety, which is what SSRIs
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are meant to treat. So the problem is if people are taking SSRIs to treat things like obsessive compulsive
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disorder or, you know, that you're also treating that sort of, I can't stop thinking about you
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infatuation associated with early love, you're making it impossible for people to experience
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the thrill of limerence and new relationship energy, which we've had people who listen to this podcast
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be like, man, like, you know, I have thriving young kids, but they're just not really interested
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in dating at all. And the thing is like, if you don't feel crushes, if you don't feel that infatuation,
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why would you bother? Honestly, like, it's just all downside, not upside. I think it's
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one of the, one of the few things that really gets people. This is so fun that now when somebody tells
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you like, I'm asexual or aromantic, you can just be like, are you on SSRIs? Just to,
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because you know, like 80% of the time, the answer is going to be yes. And you're going to be,
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it's probably the SSRI. Yeah. It's, it's just the SSRI or yeah. Yeah. Or, you know, yeah. Just
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same with like, I can't imagine how, how, how like blown top a progressive is going to be if you pull
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out on them. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably the SSRI. Well, and also the, the, it's, it's not just,
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so I just, I want to point that out though, like in terms of like the larger people aren't getting
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married problem. I think one of the few things that did get people out and dating when otherwise
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it's just so scary is that thrill and the thrill is being robbed of them. The thing is, is they're
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also like not even that effective. I remember the period I was on SSRIs. I did not feel any different.
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Like I certainly wasn't happier. No, really. So wildly, there was actually a study on this,
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a meta-analysis in 2022 in molecular psychiatry, which showed SSRIs outperformed
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placebos by only a very thin margin with an effect size of only 0.3, which is no better
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than exercise or therapy. So they're tanking their sexuality and fertility for nothing,
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for no real benefit. And if you want to come at me and be like, oh no, SSRIs would work so well for me.
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It's like, yeah, placebos are really good. Like placebos actually do work very effectively.
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If you are curious how out of control things have gotten, there was a study called Antidepressant
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Dispensing to Youth, Adolescents, and Young Adults 2016 to 2022 that was looking at how much
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the rate of SSRI prescriptions had increased over that period. So if we go from 2016 to 2022 and we're
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looking at females age 12 to 17, the rate of prescriptions increased 129.6%. If we look at
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females age 18 to 25, it increased 56.5%. If we look at males age 12 to 17, there was not an
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increase. And if we look at males age 18 to 25, there was not an increase, which I think correlates
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strongly with females becoming more progressive here. Because as we've seen in many, many other
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studies, progressives are way lower on happiness ratings in conservatives and haven't been since
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the Pew started recording the data on this. But it's been getting worse over time. And progressive
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both depression and anxiety symptoms are way higher than they are in conservatives. Same
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with females. And this is increasing over time.
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Truth is the enemy of happiness. Have you had your joy, Ollie?
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People in town are unaliving at unprecedented rates and nobody's having kids anymore.
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And they're paint in the streets and rainbows. Have you not noticed?
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Why are you all wearing those ridiculous nails?
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You should get one. They shape your face into a smile. And when you smile, you can't help being
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We have to tell people. They need to know the truth.
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We are practically the only two people in this entire city, not stoned out of our minds on joy.
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The way that one person in the article described it who was taking SSRIs for anxiety or something
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was that it didn't make the anxiety go away. It, like, provided a moat around it. So, like,
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it was there, but it couldn't get to him as easily. Is that kind of how it felt? Because I
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No, literally nothing. Not different in any way.
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Also, no wonder you took it for only such a short period of time. But the New York Times also
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points to other ways SSRIs may be causing sexual dysfunction. So Bergner, the author,
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interviewed Dr. Erwin Goldstein, who's a clinical professor of urology at the University of California,
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San Diego. He's a specialist in sexual medicine who sees about 50 to 75 new patients each year for
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ED. And here's a quote from the article. Dr. Goldstein has been researching the role of SSRIs
00:23:57.260
in his patient's ED problems and noted that SSRIs can cause an overproduction of what
00:24:03.180
are called oxygen radicals, leading to scarring and malfunctioning. The physiological effect of
00:24:10.380
SSRIs within the, can I say, can I say the P word? Within the PP, within the FWIPI, as our children
00:24:16.940
call it. Within the FWIPI, technical term. Scarring in the FWIPI? In the FWIPI. Yes,
00:24:23.180
scarring in the FWIPI looked closely akin to the impact of aging and diseases that are well-established
00:24:29.420
contributors true to ED. So it's scarring your FWIPI. Also, recent studies have linked SSRIs
00:24:37.340
just to lower sexual performance. So Bergner noted in a 2010 study published in Biological Psychiatry,
00:24:44.780
researchers gave male rats a generic Prozac at the age of rat adolescence, allowed sufficient time
00:24:51.420
for the drug to clear from their system. So again, they're not on it anymore, then monitored the male's
00:24:57.100
sexual behavior in adulthood when they went in the presence of a receptive female. Compared with a
00:25:04.380
control group, the previously medicated rats were much slower to mount and took much longer from
00:25:10.380
starting sex to ejaculation. And within any one session, ejaculated much less often. Not all
00:25:17.180
similar experiments have produced data quite so definitive. And results with female subjects have
00:25:22.780
been a bit more blurry, maybe because female rodent sexuality is trickier to measure. But all in all,
00:25:29.500
the rodent research carries cautionary implications. So the SSRIs are scarring the FWIPIs,
00:25:36.860
and they're making the male rats who took it in adolescence mount more slowly, ejaculate less,
00:25:44.540
and ejacuate later. So, ejacuate. It's not good, okay? It just seems like from soup to nuts,
00:25:53.020
almost literally. From soup to nuts, literally. You're kidding. You, Simone. You're welcome.
00:25:59.180
This is how the abuse starts. Bad jokes. I'm a mom. It's a mom joke. It was so funny
00:26:09.340
to watch a fan doing like a reaction to our content because they were like recording like what they
00:26:14.540
thought and just watching somebody watch our content and regularly crack up. I'm like, oh,
00:26:19.660
I didn't realize that people are like actually laughing when we start laughing at things. Well,
00:26:24.700
we have fun. We have fun here. But yeah, so like literally from limerence, from like getting a crush
00:26:30.940
on someone to actually nutting inside them, you're, you're, you're completely getting,
00:26:35.580
getting screwed over by SSRIs. And yes, leftists use more SSRIs. I mean, there's not obviously direct
00:26:42.140
survey data or like prescriptions on like- I want to hear, I want to hear the data here. Come on.
00:26:46.300
Large national surveys consistently show that liberals or Democrats report worse mental health
00:26:51.260
outcomes than conservatives or Republicans. And the gap has widened in recent years.
00:26:55.740
And you know, it's not because they're taking fewer drugs or seeing the psychologist last.
00:27:00.060
I'm, oh no, that has certainly nothing to do with it. I am absolutely confident. There are two great
00:27:05.180
studies you can look to at this. If you want the South, whichever one in the comments is like,
00:27:10.060
where are the links to the articles? Well, if you paid to subscribe on Substack or Patreon,
00:27:15.980
thank you so much to our supporters, by the way. I linked to the studies that we
00:27:22.780
Yeah. Which I put in, I, I, I, I put in the, the Substack and Patreon articles.
00:27:27.980
Nerd. Yeah. So anyway, but for those listening, I'm going to throw you a bone.
00:27:33.420
See distressed Democrats and relaxed Republicans, partisanship and mental health during the COVID-19
00:27:41.660
These people, they lack the ability to Google stuff. I swear. That's the title. That's the
00:27:47.340
title. Google another title, the politics of depression, diverging trends and internalizing
00:27:52.380
symptoms among us adolescents by political beliefs. So the first study I just named,
00:27:57.260
they found that Democrats reported consistently higher levels of mental distress than Republicans
00:28:02.060
during the pandemic, that this, this partisan distress gap predated the pandemic, but was exacerbated
00:28:08.380
by it, especially among white Americans and white Democrats experienced the greatest increase in
00:28:15.180
distress resulting in a widening distress gap between Democrats and white Republicans. Well,
00:28:20.620
both white Democrats and Republicans. And then the second one, the politics of depression one,
00:28:24.780
found that all adolescents show a rising internalizing symptoms, but increases are most pronounced among
00:28:31.420
female liberals. Big surprise, especially those with low parental education, which I hadn't heard
00:28:37.900
before. Female liberal adolescents have the largest increase in highest absolute scores for depressive
00:28:43.580
affect, particularly those from less privileged backgrounds. So trailer trash girls, watch out.
00:28:49.180
And male conservative adolescents had the lowest increases and the best scores across internalizing
00:28:55.100
syndrome scales. So basically. Across people who rate their mental health as poor or who screened
00:29:00.860
positive for depression, a greater proportion identifies liberal than conservative, but also conservatives are
00:29:07.260
less likely to seek mental health treatment or to acknowledge mental health problems, which suggests some
00:29:13.180
of the difference may just reflect reporting bias. But here's the thing is if you don't report it and you don't
00:29:20.140
get treated for it, you're not going on SSRIs. And if you're not going on SSRIs, you're not essentially
00:29:26.060
downstream going to sterilize yourself through all these negative sexual effects.
00:29:29.900
But should we be disrupting the cycle to get rid of the progressives that they're,
00:29:35.420
they're, they're, they're infected with parasites and taking drugs that lower their arousal patterns?
00:29:40.860
They just want to die. They just, they just want to end the cycle, Malcolm. Maybe,
00:29:47.260
maybe we should just, I don't know, let them, let them put themselves out of their misery. But for those
00:29:52.940
who want to see more research on that front, see mental health and mental health care utilization across
00:29:57.900
political affiliation and U.S. adults, all right, for the source people. But anyway,
00:30:01.980
an important side note, doctors, like I was saying at the beginning of this, are largely not telling
00:30:06.700
patients, even adults, about sexual side effects. So from the article, I found this was really
00:30:11.660
interesting. The author writes, Peggy J. Kleinenplatz, a professor of medicine at the University of Ottawa,
00:30:18.300
told me about the moment that shed light on how family physicians and other primary care providers
00:30:23.340
who write the majority of SSRI prescriptions in the United States and Canada, might be thinking
00:30:27.660
about informed consent with patients. In 2019, Kleinenplatz gave a presentation to family physicians
00:30:34.460
at a Canadian medical conference. She asked her audience of some 50 doctors, how many of them
00:30:39.820
were aware of the sexual side effects of SSRIs? 80% raised their hands, she estimated. She asked how
00:30:45.980
many informed their patients about these effects when they prescribed. Just one hand went up. Then
00:30:52.620
she asked why they didn't. They said it's a matter of patient compliance. To inform about potential
00:30:58.540
sexual side effects they worried was to risk the patient not taking the drug the doctor thought
00:31:05.100
necessary. So basically... That's fantastic. That's fantastic. They're not telling their
00:31:10.940
patients. They're like, I think the drug is more important than your sex life. And the patient may
00:31:16.300
disagree. Consider that in an entire room of psychologists and psychiatrists, only one was
00:31:24.380
willing to warn their patients about this. I think that that shows what we often talk about here, which is
00:31:28.540
to say you should be viewing these fields as adversarial to you. They do not care about you
00:31:35.260
in maths. To find a good one is almost impossible. You should be looking for other solutions to these
00:31:42.140
types of problems if you have them. And when we're talking about SSRIs, you can see our other videos
00:31:46.540
on this. Keep in mind this is me who has a degree in neuroscience and a minor in psychology and who worked
00:31:53.740
in the UT Southwestern Translational Neuroscience department. So I worked as a psychologist in like
00:31:59.500
the most difficult capacity you can. And I am saying that the place that these industries have gone
00:32:06.780
is antagonistic to you. And when you look at these really high rates of anxiety that people have,
00:32:13.420
if you look at these really high rates of depression people have today, and we've done other videos on
00:32:17.180
this, you see them more in people that are more privileged, especially in women that are more
00:32:22.700
privileged. And we argue that what is likely causing them is that females are just not meant
00:32:28.860
to be in environments where they have no real threats to them. And so if they are, especially
00:32:33.980
at a young age, they invent threats and their brain basically breaks down.
00:32:39.500
Well, and that, yeah, I think that's just so interesting that like the left is all about
00:32:43.420
hedonistic pleasure and everything, but they're also like, I don't care if this sterilizes you or causes,
00:32:48.860
you know, there's, I think it's very much part of this trust the science or like just trust
00:32:53.900
authorities thing of like, I know better. Yeah. My doctor told me to take it. So I'm doing it.
00:32:59.100
Well, but also like, I know what's best for them. And I'm just going to go ahead and override what
00:33:03.980
might be a preference in favor of something else because I know best. And so I'm just not going to tell
00:33:08.780
them. But of course this is really exacerbated with teens because even I would be like really hesitant
00:33:15.820
to prescribe a teen boy or girl in SSRI. And even if I told adults about the sexual side effects,
00:33:21.980
like imagine how pissed a mom would be at you as a doctor. If you were like, listen, little Cindy Lou,
00:33:27.500
who like, I don't know if you want to take this. Cause it might mess with your sex drive. And like,
00:33:32.060
you know, here's this mother being like, how dare you? I can just imagine one of those scenes where like,
00:33:35.980
the parent is getting an increasingly horrified face in the background. It's just like boiling
00:33:40.700
with rage. Yes. Yes. It's like, of course. And I think that that probably means, I mean,
00:33:47.260
maybe sentiment, as you've pointed out against SSRI is just plummeting is going to be enough to kind of,
00:33:53.980
I don't know, get people to stop taking them in mass. But in general, the incentives are such that
00:34:00.540
this issue is not going to get resolved. The discussion around PSSD has been going since like
00:34:08.140
2004. Nothing has really changed. And the incentives just aren't there. Like doctors prescribing these
00:34:14.460
SSRIs to kids have no incentive to bring up the sexual side effects. These teens are then going
00:34:20.460
through decades of taking these and dealing with adverse effects for the rest of their lives. But kind
00:34:25.580
of, there's no accountability chain. And it's kind of hard to tell where these problems are coming
00:34:30.540
from. And no one's getting paid to find out the root of the problem. Like no one profits from it.
00:34:35.900
So no one's going to dig deeper. And I do admire and appreciate the New York Times for covering this
00:34:41.100
and pointing this out as an issue to a largely progressive audience, because at least we're giving
00:34:45.180
them the chance to. What if they start breeding again? What if they start dating again?
00:34:49.420
It's too late, Malcolm. There's no changing it. Also, we have to consider all the other factors
00:34:54.700
that are sexually dampening or sterilizing populations, also largely left populations.
00:35:00.380
I mean, arguably parasites and other diseases, as we discussed in our episode.
00:35:06.140
Well, they make them more sexual, but in non-reproductive ways. So those who remain sexual
00:35:10.540
are now like just getting toxoplasmosis and just having like fellatia. Also,
00:35:14.940
keep in mind that the people who with toxoplasmosis had lower sperm motility and lower sperm count.
00:35:20.380
So even when they did actually manage to come inside someone, they were not as likely to lead to,
00:35:27.260
you know, a live birth. Plus, of course, we have the endocrine disruptor issue.
00:35:30.700
We're constantly talking about who we're fighting against, the infected, the swarm.
00:35:35.580
We're constantly talking about the TIDE studies, which, which showed that.
00:35:38.620
Oh yeah, people in that other video had forgotten that we always talk about the TIDE studies.
00:35:42.540
Yeah. Higher levels of endocrine disruptors and first trimester blood work in pregnant women
00:35:47.660
as measured by these studies, the TIDES studies, if you want to look them up again.
00:35:51.500
We provide references to things that you can look up, people.
00:35:54.540
People don't know how to do that. They don't know how to type.
00:36:00.140
Anyway, I need to create an itemized list for our daily videos.
00:36:04.220
Yeah. Well, that's, that's what they're asking for. Like I said, I provide linked outlines and
00:36:10.860
everything, all my notes and everything when I, when we, but on Patreon and Substack. So sorry,
00:36:17.020
Yeah. And why aren't you guys, you know, everyone should be subscribed on Patreon. We do
00:36:20.620
weekend, weekend episodes of other weekend episodes, even all of it. I, we, we, we,
00:36:25.020
they're very different structures in the weekday episodes. They're typically just like an idea we're
00:36:29.500
still trying to think through or like something that I don't see stuff, personal stuff. It's,
00:36:35.020
it's fun. I really like them and our communities.
00:36:37.740
Some of this like really useful, like the one about how you do large batch meals.
00:36:41.980
Yeah. And like our travel tips and stuff like that. Anyway, if there's, there's more, if you
00:36:46.460
want it to subscribe on Patreon, but yeah. So there's endocrine disruptors that are causing
00:36:51.260
even people from like in utero, like men to become less male, their endogenital distance is shorter when
00:36:56.220
they come out, meaning like basically like, again, they're flippy didn't make it all the way up to
00:37:00.540
like the front, you know, it's, it's, it's closer into the, to the, the anus, but also they're expressing
00:37:07.340
less gender dimorphic play. And when they're like eight years old, you know, so people are becoming less
00:37:13.260
male because of endocrine disruptors. Plus, you know, also just in general, endocrine disruptors,
00:37:19.020
which include like BPAs, phthalates, dioxins, polychlorinated biphenyls, pesticides, parabens,
00:37:27.980
some heavy metals, like all of these things are endocrine disruptors. They in women cause lower
00:37:33.820
fertility, menstrual irregularities, polycystic ovary, ovary system syndrome. That's that's PCOS and
00:37:41.180
endometriosis, premature menopause, uterine and ovarian dysfunction, also increased risk of miscarriage
00:37:48.380
and pregnancy complications. And in men, endocrine disruptors can decrease sperm count and quality,
00:37:55.820
they can reduce testosterone, they can cause genital malformations, like I pointed out,
00:38:00.380
and also increase the risk of testicular and prostate cancers. So, I mean, it's like, okay,
00:38:07.020
the SSRIs, they're just, they're just the cherry on top, but they're a cherry on top that
00:38:12.780
disproportionately affects progressives, and especially progressive youth.
00:38:17.900
Yeah, it most feels like they're meant to sort of like, what's the word of this? Like,
00:38:21.900
numb them to the world, right? Like, to make them less likely to rebel, almost. It's like,
00:38:27.820
it's literally like one of the- The opiate of the masses.
00:38:37.660
Opiate of the masses? No, I didn't hear what you said, yeah. No, I'm thinking more like that scene
00:38:41.500
from Squiders with the pills, where, you know, everyone in society is forced to take these pills to,
00:38:48.780
Imagine a world where the government regulates drugs.
00:39:03.500
You don't know what it's going to do to them, Damon.
00:39:07.260
Oh, yeah. Well, and also like, there's the concept of Soma in Brave New World,
00:39:11.260
a Soma in time saves nine. It's basically like popping a Xanax or something, or you're just like,
00:39:20.540
I love Brave New World. That dystopia is my utopia. Everyone takes perfume showers,
00:39:28.300
they're constantly popping Xanax, and they're just having a great time. I don't see what the
00:39:32.700
problem is. They're cloned, I think, or like genetically designed to be good at their jobs,
00:39:40.380
and born into like their striated portion of society, but really happy to be in it.
00:39:45.260
So like you can be an alpha or a beta or a gamma, and you just grow up being like,
00:39:49.740
man, I'm so glad I'm not a beta, because like you're a gamma or an alpha,
00:39:53.420
and you're just really happy to be what you are. You die before you get old. But also like when
00:39:58.140
you're young, you go to hospitals to watch the people die. So you're like, oh, okay,
00:40:02.460
so this is how it works. And then you get like incinerated in a way that generates energy for the
00:40:07.020
city. So it's all very efficient. I'm like, this is this is perfect. What's wrong with this?
00:40:11.500
Everything's great. Like, sign me up. Where is this world? Everything instead of like cool,
00:40:18.700
their word for cool is pneumatic. Like, oh, it's so pneumatic. Everyone drives around in these cool
00:40:23.980
helicopter things. Like, why do people think I just was so confused when I read this in college
00:40:30.940
and went to my honors class and like trotted up and was like so excited to talk about this world.
00:40:35.260
Like, guys, how do we make this happen? Like, let's do this. Okay. Like, let's go. You do the
00:40:40.860
helicopters. I'll do the Soma. Like, let's regroup. Someone build the conditioning chambers.
00:40:47.820
They had this thing also because this was written by Aldous Huxley right when operant conditioning
00:40:53.500
was considered to be this whole new exciting thing of like, oh my gosh, like you can shape human
00:40:58.460
behavior. So the whole idea was that these casts of society, the alphas and the betas and the gammas,
00:41:04.620
as babies, because they were all like, they were made in artificial wombs and like sort of cloned
00:41:08.780
and like made in a lab. And then they would be raised in big groups by like designated like nanny
00:41:13.500
minders. And the, the way they were conditioned is they'd listen to these sayings over and over and
00:41:19.100
over. Like, I'm so glad I'm not a camera. I'm so glad I'm not a camera. But then like also like,
00:41:24.220
I think electrify the floors or something, or like some, I can't remember exactly what it was, but like
00:41:31.180
they would expose the babies to something that they weren't supposed to like, like a rose or
00:41:35.260
something. So they wouldn't get like overly concerned with like, I don't know if feet
00:41:41.020
aesthetics or something. And then it would, they like, they would electrify the floor and shock all
00:41:45.020
the babies. I'll build a floor shocker, but like, and just, I loved it. I loved it. I would never,
00:41:54.300
I would never believe in shocking babies. So I would change that about brave new world. No,
00:41:58.060
no, no, being mean to the babies, just positive reinforcement, never negative reinforcement.
00:42:01.900
But well, we do a lot of negative reinforcement with our kids, Malcolm. I'm sorry,
00:42:11.020
How many times have our kids said, hit me again, daddy.
00:42:17.980
Yeah, they literally like beg, they beg to be hit. I don't know what to say.
00:42:23.340
They'll run up and then do something like poke me and then run away and be like, come on,
00:42:28.300
I know the first thing that I go downstairs to like help Malcolm dress the kids. The first thing that
00:42:32.940
happens is I get punched in the spine. He's like, come at me, bro. They just want to fight.
00:42:40.220
They love it so much. Yeah. You think it's negative reinforcement? Nice try. I don't, I don't,
00:42:44.620
I don't bop at all. Um, because they had too much fun with it. I just, I just take things away at this
00:42:51.020
point. That's my whole thing is like, okay, you, you wanted to use that as a weapon. You don't have
00:42:55.820
it anymore. Like I, it's just, that's the only thing that's working for me. I don't know what's working
00:42:59.980
for you anyway. Oh my God. I can only imagine if, if somebody who was into like little girl,
00:43:09.260
daddy, Dom play, right. If they said the stuff that our kids say to me on a regular basis,
00:43:15.260
people would be like, that's dark. Like you need to stop. Like, don't be like, hit me, daddy.
00:43:21.580
Oh, and with the worst thing is, is especially now that Alexa devices, Amazon Alexa devices have
00:43:27.500
updated their AI and there's, there's a broadcasting feature. If you have a lot of
00:43:31.820
them in your house, you can use them basically as an intercom system. And it used to just be,
00:43:36.140
and you can do this with a Google home device too. Google home device now still continues to just
00:43:41.020
give a recording of your voice when you use the intercom system. But what Alexa does now is instead
00:43:47.820
broadcast the message in her voice. So now it's just, it makes it sound extra sexual when our
00:43:54.780
children send basic messages. It's Alexa. It's this woman who's like, daddy, daddy.
00:44:12.300
Daddy, I'm thirsty. It's so bad. It sounds so horrible. It's like an adult woman's voice.
00:44:18.780
And it's just this, yeah, because like they're, they're trying to make like this maximally
00:44:23.500
like appealing, kind of, kind of cheerful, kind of alluring female voice,
00:44:28.620
except it's our children saying, daddy, comma, stop. Like, daddy, come down for dinner.
00:44:34.620
Daddy, I'm thirsty. And it's just, it's no, no, I guess we're too perverted.
00:44:39.500
Daddy, I'm thirsty. Daddy, I'm tired of waiting. Come downstairs.
00:44:43.660
You know, it's so bad. It's so, I think maybe we're too degen for it. Like normal,
00:44:49.420
normal people would not. Normal people don't hear a woman's voice. Come on.
00:44:53.740
Cause I don't hear daddy from adult women that much. Like, no, no, because the only context in
00:44:58.940
which adult women say that actually, you know what? No, no. So like, I know that for a fact,
00:45:04.460
since the like fifties and sixties, this has been an issue because it recall in gentlemen,
00:45:09.900
prefer blondes, what Marilyn Monroe's character refers to her partner as his daddy in a very
00:45:17.260
sexual way. Hmm. Do you not remember? I do. So, I mean, but it was still sexual.
00:45:24.780
It's yeah, it's extremely sexual. So, so it's not us being degens. It's just Alexa being,
00:45:40.140
Oh, they always, they love going, because they think that it's like a bad thing to do. So they
00:45:44.460
love saying it into Alexa. Yeah. And so they'll be like, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, pee,
00:45:49.900
poop. And it's just Alexa, a grown woman in my room going like, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop.
00:45:56.700
Daddy, poop, poop, poop, daddy, poop. And then, because we can see on the cameras what they're
00:46:02.460
doing, they turn to each other and they're so excited. I just said poop on the thing. I just
00:46:06.940
did it. Can you believe I did it? And it was like, oh, and the other one's like, oh, anyway,
00:46:12.540
I'll let you go. We are just going to do. So watch the video I sent you for food tonight
00:46:17.020
on how to do the marinade marinade of the Mongolian. It has very explicit instructions on how to handle it.
00:46:23.900
And then how we cook it tomorrow. In terms of what I'm eating tonight. I'm going to do a little
00:46:27.820
bit tonight. So of the marinade that's mostly for overnight, I'm going to marinate some of it
00:46:32.300
for 30 minutes so that we can make the rest of the noodles for you tonight, right? To do that.
00:46:37.260
Okay. That works for me. Yeah. You just throw it in with a lot of chives.
00:46:39.660
Unless there's something else you wanted tonight.
00:46:44.300
I have noodles. Well, that's the whole thing is I pre-did some of those egg noodles to have
00:46:49.100
them sit in the fridge and dry out essentially. Cause you really want them to, you personally
00:46:53.020
wanted them dry. Well, I mean, I want them to fry on the pan, you know? Yeah. So that's why I was
00:46:57.500
like, well, what happens if I refrigerate them for one or two days and then we fry them up?
00:47:01.740
Will they be better? So I either have to use them or get rid of them.
00:47:09.500
We've got a lot of chives left. We got new chives coming in.
00:47:11.820
And extra peppers. Do you want me to also just do some of those new peppers that you got?
00:47:15.900
Mix them in with. Oh, absolutely. But you need to cook those for a little bit. Like those actually
00:47:19.740
do need to be cooked a bit. Okay. So you just slice them.
00:47:23.260
I might actually do those in like a separate pan, like saute them in a separate pan that doesn't
00:47:27.420
produce that much smoke. Cause you know how we like. Oh yeah. How we overcook the house.
00:47:32.060
When we do anything in the wok, cause we have no, we cook in a very old kitchen that was built
00:47:37.900
like at the, like 200 years ago. There is no ventilation. So when I cook on the wok,
00:47:44.860
our whole house is full of smoke. It smells good though.
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I love you. You are amazing. And thank you for being a part of my life.
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It's an interesting one. Yeah. Okay. Off I go. I love you.
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Okay. Oh, trivia. What was Walt Disney's favorite food?
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Hot dogs. That's a good old American food there.
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When he was building Disneyland, when it was under construction, he insisted on calling all
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the attractions, weenies. So he's like, we got a weenie here. We got a weenie there. I think he
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just referred to them as weenies. He was a strange man.
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His obsession with trains actually predated the creation of Disneyland. He had a
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a train, a giant train set in his his backyard. I mean, it was it was big, like it was enough
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where you could ride in it. He actually shut it down after some party at his house where it like
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someone was driving it too fast and it derailed and the girl got hurt. I mean, she was okay,
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but she was burned by the steam. So, but yeah, he was a train obsessive.
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No, he liked, he liked old, loud, clanky trains. In fact, that train that goes around Disneyland
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and Anaheim, you know, the original Disneyland, when he went on the first test drive of it,
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he was irate with the team that built it. Do you know why?
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Yes, it was too quiet. And they had to explain to him, they're like, well, it's a it's a new
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well-built train. And he's like, make it louder. And they had to literally take the engine apart
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No, it's true. Like he really understood. The word that came to mind was mouthfeel.
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He really understood like the mouthfeel of Disney, the patina that you need to have that experience
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of, of this authentic American thing. Yeah. Like a train that wasn't loud and clinky and noisy
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wouldn't feel authentic in the same way. So I just love that. Oh, weenies.
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I'm drawing my Christmas tree while it's Among Us presents.
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Yeah, I want Among Us plus presents for Christmas.
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What about you, Indy? You got anything you're up to?
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Octavian, earlier this morning, you said the mice are retreating. Can you tell me about that?
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Why are they? How do you know they're retreating?
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Because they're dying from the mouth trap. The men don't die from the mouth trap.
00:51:02.300
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We're going to be in the video because you gave us comments about we, you really, really,
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