00:14:52.540Yeah, he has a user base of 7,000 paid members.
00:14:57.620That means that his actual like real world watchers
00:15:02.780might be astonishingly small at this point.
00:15:06.320And I've noted this with other people.
00:15:08.260One of the groups that I've noticed0.91
00:15:09.640seem to be like the highest botted of communities.
00:15:12.460is anybody who used to be famous in the conservative space um and then sort of dropped
00:15:17.760off in terms of you hear anybody talk about them with respect anymore the tucker carlson fell
00:15:22.420squarely in that like i used to love tucker carlson my little brother used to love tucker
00:15:25.620carlson like everyone i know in my space whenever tucker carlson would do a video we'd all like
00:15:30.020talk about it like it was like oh god it's the new tucker carlson video right like
00:15:34.800he was known as having like really intellectually deep and provocative takes that's um that track
00:15:42.440with my experience too and then like nobody talks like other than can you believe this crazy thing
00:15:48.480tucker carlson said i haven't heard that much about him and i think it might be because he
00:15:53.500allowed his numbers and keep in mind i'm not talking about botting as a negative thing right
00:15:57.720like for some industries in some platforms you near have to bot like on twitch for example i hear
00:16:04.100like you will not be discovered if you don't bot on twitch yes that is correct yeah you basically
00:16:10.020have to bot on twitch from what i've heard unless you're super famous from other platforms and
00:16:14.380literally you're just sending all your audiences there which is or you built yourself up over
00:16:18.240absolutely ages and you're stubborn like leaflet yeah yeah but uh you know once you establish a
00:16:24.980norm around botting if twitch doesn't stop it then if you want to be discovered then you have
00:16:29.020to do it too right and there becomes a whole ecosystem around this so i'm not saying like
00:16:33.840i'm not dispersing aspersions on their moral character by saying but what i am saying is it
00:16:39.620does mean that third worlders have more of an influence on them so and it seems that tucker
00:16:44.280carlson has been doing more to try to pander to russian and pakistani audiences like in 2025 he
00:16:51.860did this viral interview where he stated that he had more in common with a sincerely religious
00:16:56.740pakistani cab driver than with a secular liberal western elite and this caused this surge of
00:17:02.660popularity among a Pakistani audience. Not just due to that, but also due to his criticism of
00:17:09.100liberal Western culture in general. But here's where I see some tension, because apparently,
00:17:14.740if you look at website traffic, at least as of early 2025 on the Tucker Carlson Network website,
00:17:22.82082% of the traffic is from the US. Yeah, that's actually super suspicious.
00:17:27.120Really? So I'll explain why. And that also makes me think that it leads to botting allegations,
00:17:32.160and further so let's go to our podcast right okay i am probably one of the most openly bigoted
00:17:39.980against non-american youtubers i think that i'm aware of yeah i i can't think of another youtuber
00:17:47.820who i watch who as regularly casts aspersions among non-american groups whether that is catholics or
00:17:58.840whether that is the french always the french the french and don't forget the next episode we were
00:18:04.680hoping to outline was titled don't trust the irish oh yeah the irish i went on a long crash
00:18:09.800out about the irish recently the polish being corrupt the you know so i i go off on other0.88
00:18:16.160countries right like i'm explicitly anti-courting other countries oh my god did you know that0.99
00:18:22.340shoe on head is our fourth most over overlap subscriber channel oh that's a good sign that's
00:18:26.840new i didn't that's that wasn't there before yeah and it's been going up she's up she's well above
00:18:32.040leaflet so it goes asthma gold tim cast lotus eaters shoe on head actual justice warrior
00:18:37.340trigonometry warren smiths tim cast leafless and asari tim pool dad saves america alexander
00:18:43.820grace clownfish tv now we have this implies for going more mainstream slash yeah and metreon yeah
00:18:51.060this is very mainstream all of these people have like millions but hold on i'm trying to find out
00:18:55.300where it shows me our geographic stats okay so our channel our channel has do you can you guess
00:19:02.880what our american audience is uh i think it was like 56 something like that yeah it's gone up a
00:19:08.560bit now it's at 64 well good for us so considering that you have to ask yourself how on earth is a
00:19:16.640podcast as one american focused as ours and two as jingoistic as ours okay coming so much lower0.99
00:19:26.060than tucker carlson which actively is constantly dick-stucking muslims that's huh okay so i'll0.99
00:19:35.620explain to you arousing my suspicions very interesting i'll explain to you how that could0.99
00:19:40.180happen because there is a way that that could happen aside from botting how
00:19:43.580body he explicitly is paying his bots to go through american vpns or american accounts
00:19:50.360that's why it would appear that much basically no other believable explanation i can think of
00:19:55.620yeah that's entirely fair yeah right so by the way people people are wondering like where we
00:20:02.380actually let's see where we actually get audience from you you want to know our male to female
00:20:06.82090 like 90 90 yeah yeah great yeah so we're united states then canada then united kingdom
00:20:17.000then australia then oh good australian audience then germany then brazil then sweden people
00:20:23.800pointed out that we're actually like really disproportionately large in some of these
00:20:26.980countries then poland then netherlands then india then finland then israel then france then
00:20:33.960Norway then South Africa then New Zealand then Japan by the way note I'm going down this list
00:20:39.760so you guys can tell something about this list do you notice something about all of these countries
00:20:44.300so far yeah fair fair point I see I see what you're doing all of these countries so far except
00:20:49.280for Israel oh and India but that's only 0.7 percent of our audience are Christian majority
00:20:54.000countries until Japan yeah then Mexico then Russia then the Philippines then Switzerland
00:21:00.300then romania then ireland then portugal then spain then chechnya first non and this is only
00:21:09.7800.3 of our audience non-christian majority country then argentina then denmark then italy then
00:21:15.320austria then belgian then singapore next i think they're christian non-majority then greece then
00:21:20.460hungary then vietnam then indonesia then thailand then malaysia then serbia bulgaria so you see it
00:21:25.360sort of down the end here and that's interesting because that does not track with the the current
00:21:31.480so i also looked i pulled from wikipedia a list of often states by number of broadband and internet
00:21:36.960subscriptions and then i combined their column for mobile broadband and then also like mobile
00:21:42.660like for fixed and mobile and the top ranked now are china then india then united states indonesia
00:21:51.220brazil russia japan philippines bangladesh pakistan nigeria germany mexico vietnam thailand
00:21:57.820egypt united kingdom italy france iran south africa turkey south korea like so there we really don't
00:22:04.240our audience isn't representative of the world the world it's representative specifically of
00:22:10.540internet users of the world it's representative of a specific memetic set but i'd go further
00:22:17.640it's representative of so to go over just like let's go over the top countries on this list again
00:22:21.620unusually highly educated countries okay so if you go over the top on our list united states
00:22:29.500canada united kingdom australia germany brazil sweden poland netherlands and note here brazil's
00:22:37.840really high on the list we want to talk about brazil because we have a big audience in brazil
00:22:40.800and we work a lot with brilliance like that's bruno who does rfab is is brilliant brazil is
00:22:46.040kind of messed up in these statistics and we're going to do a totally another episode on it
00:22:49.720because brazil has about half if i remember the chart correctly about half of the internet users
00:22:55.940if you look at america as a portion of internet users okay brazil represents about half of the
00:23:01.660internet users america does now this is insane because brazil is not half of america's population
00:23:07.060this does not make sense there's a separate graph that not aldous huxley on x sent to us that i also
00:23:14.420I just resent to you on WhatsApp. Hey, thanks for this, by the way. You inspired this episode.
00:23:19.180This graph shows you that. You can look at it visually and hopefully you can put it up on the
00:23:23.380screen. I sent it to you on WhatsApp. Yeah. And it shows two graphs, total internet users,
00:23:29.9601997 to 2007, and then total internet users, 2018 to 2012, or sorry, probably 2018, 12.
00:23:38.240oh so maybe july 1997 versus december 2018 i'm not sure but anyway we're like around 1997 we're
00:23:46.260around 2018 actually i'm surprised here what brazil doesn't have a smaller population as i thought
00:23:54.080brazil is a huge pup i told you this before you were like it's uninhabitable yes but it has
00:24:02.860insanely densely populated urban areas brazil's massive yeah so let's see what are they they're
00:24:09.86064 of america's population which is about what we see in terms of internet users yeah so they're not
00:24:15.620disproportionately online they're just a bigger country there's just a lot of brazilians which
00:24:19.360is awesome uh and i feel like i feel like to a certain extent until very recently people have
00:24:24.700like discounted brazilians online because of the language barrier with portuguese but as we're now
00:24:30.860seeing for example with japanese twitter a lot of those language barriers with just automatic
00:24:35.680translation are totally disappearing yeah and this is really interesting as well because it's
00:24:41.040shifting leftist discourse online to be more small c conservative in its value set in some ways yeah
00:24:47.660yeah because a lot of the the rest of the world like one they're realizing that nobody's woke
00:24:53.160but them like japanese people are like mortified by them all these anime creators but two if you've0.83
00:24:59.480noticed in top of the line leftist discourse it's become significantly more islamist like hard-coded
00:25:06.360islamist in its framing speaking of people who've actually pivoted so tucker carlson i would say
00:25:13.080it's a cringe pivot his whole i love russia i love you know like pakistan thing it's it feels forced
00:25:19.980to me and it feels cringe and not like he can't really pull it off you know who just like took to
00:25:25.200it like a duck to water and has really nailed it. Hassan? No, Andrew Tate. Oh, Andrew Tate has taken
00:25:32.420to it. Yeah. Yeah. I heard the majority of the people who go to his school, you know, the Tate
00:25:37.040University are Indians. Well, yeah. So I looked at it a little more. Google search interest and
00:25:42.540then also anecdotal reporting and reporting from The Guardian indicate higher per capita interest
00:25:47.600in Muslim majority countries. So parts of the Middle East, Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, as we
00:25:53.380recall big internet populations now more than in the uk and the us but then also popularity is
00:26:00.920noted in india brazil and other global south areas and then tate's 2022 conversion to islam
00:26:07.340remember that totally yes with this and a lot of his international reach comes from0.94
00:26:13.300short-form content which again really caters to these you're talking about the being less
00:26:18.140educated and stuff. I would say if you have a less literate, less educated country, shorts do
00:26:24.200incredibly well versus long form like podcasts and videos and stuff, because also people are
00:26:30.040talking or looking at the internet, mostly through mobile devices on the go. It's, you don't really
00:26:34.780have people like playing stuff on larger TV screens or other computer monitors. So shorts
00:26:39.580make a lot of sense. And that is like Tate's native format. Keep in mind, Tucker Carlson is
00:26:43.720all about this old legacy Fox News style TV format, even though he's like totally digitally
00:26:49.400native now. So Tate really did the short form content in addition to converting to Islam,
00:26:54.800in addition to really appealing to this like sort of young radicalized minority male population
00:27:00.260diaspora throughout the entire world. And then audience composition, when people look at it,
00:27:05.420it not just highlights all these people in developing countries, but highlights young
00:27:10.840men from ethnic minority backgrounds in the west so even within his like market penetration into
00:27:17.740the west he is reaching like young disaffected immigrant men and and also aspiring youth in
00:27:25.860developing countries that are really into his whole self-made wealth discipline and anti-matrix0.81
00:27:31.740messaging well it's these rapist migrants like super appeals to that no but like think of like0.92
00:27:37.900who has most capitalized on this like growth of of of dislocated unemployed migrant male youth0.96
00:27:46.200that's somewhat misogynistic like andrew tate is nailing the change in internet composition
00:27:51.560i've noticed now that you you you talk about this i even think that this is a full sort of pipeline
00:27:57.120whether it's tucker carlson or andrew tate or nick fuentes where you get popular in the american
00:28:02.820online right and this affirms you for these sorts of um it's kind of like an endorsement yeah like
00:28:09.780the right likes him so he's also like fancier for that but then i i really do think that tucker
00:28:15.500carlson fell into this through a form of audience capture and reinforcement and possibly some
00:28:20.320botting whereas andrew tate like he was who's born in it like he really came out of it and
00:28:26.340also you have to keep in mind with hustler university there are some articles that are
00:28:31.260claiming that it really helps young Indians specifically navigate industry and job challenges
00:28:39.880that they uniquely face. And then a lot of Indian students apparently talk about how applicable it
00:28:45.660is with freelancing and various LinkedIn profiles and reviews of Hustle University as like a
00:28:51.400platform, like, should you pay for it? Is it worth it? Show that Indian participants really,
00:28:56.500really like it especially and affiliate promotion and clip sharing by creators in india have really0.74
00:29:03.580contributed to its virality so like even india specifically is this like big hustler university
00:29:09.220thing whether you're like it's actually good for them yeah yeah like hustler university is for0.77
00:29:14.220someone it's good for indians like so if you're in some country where you're making like you know0.97
00:29:18.900sense on the hour it's it's great can you explain what you mean how it's uniquely applicable to them
00:29:24.040like so hustler university is all about like a weird combination of freelance work and like
00:29:32.220white label shipping things drop shipping things like very internet native somewhat ephemeral jobs
00:29:38.320that are not more to a specific location and if you speak english fluently and are kind of have
00:29:43.900a shady background and are willing to play with different arbitrage games and not necessarily do0.97
00:29:49.680stuff that's prestigious or aspirational indians are scammers and that that's why a university is1.00
00:29:56.920good for them i didn't say that i'm i'm just saying it and i don't even know if this was1.00
00:30:01.600intentional on andrew tate's part because i think andrew tate was mostly trying to just
00:30:05.340show various ways that he has found to make money and like here's how to do it at scale
00:30:10.480but it just happens to work really really well a lot of it is is about a game of arbitrage and
00:30:15.540And this is something that came up in our episode on clip farming and botting as well, that a lot of clip farm workers, for example, are in Bangladesh or they're in India or they're in Pakistan because for them, the unit economics work.
00:30:31.420They sit in these Discord servers and they're creating numerous clips for Caleb Hammer, for Clavicular, and spamming the internet with them because the compensation they're getting for it is worth it for them.
00:30:46.200No Western country, developed country kid out doing this is going to find a benefit from doing that.
00:30:53.200Yet they might be sort of tricked into signing up for something like Hustler University or like these Discord servers that like, oh, let's make clips that go viral because they see a lot of people talking about it.
00:31:04.200And I think that's one of the core themes of this episode is that many of us will see people being really excited about a certain business model or like get rich quick scheme or whatever.
00:31:14.980And guess what? If you're like in a slum in Pakistan or India, it is your get rich quick scheme. Like it's actually going to mean something to you. But if you live in Chicago, it's really not. And we don't realize it because everyone's speaking English and we have a basic tendency to assume that like this other dude that we see on the internet is like at least another American.0.97
00:31:37.380but this also explains the ephemeral legacy conservative influencer where andrew tate
00:31:44.780sort of perfectly falls into this at like a later stage more than like a tucker carlson or something
00:31:48.680like this where andrew tate is somebody who i'm like aware that people still follow him
00:31:54.640i used to watch some of his i was never like a fan of his but like i he could say entertaining