Based Camp - Our Plausible Cryptid Tier List - Bigfoot, Ghosts, Aliens, and More!

00:00:00.000 The tier list goes Flathead Monster, Mossman, almost certainly not real.

00:00:05.540 Loch Ness Monster, almost certainly not real.

00:00:08.400 Bigfoot, plausible, but probably not real.

00:00:13.260 UFOs, probably real, but not actually aliens.

00:00:17.680 And Crop Circles, probably real, but maybe aliens.

00:00:23.320 And Gerst's, I don't know, but probably carbon monoxide and or weird.

00:00:28.480 Oh, ghost, yes.

00:00:29.960 Yeah.

00:00:30.320 Gerst.

00:00:31.000 Gerst.

00:00:32.260 Ooh, spooky.

00:00:33.300 But now you'll get to see why we think all of this.

00:00:35.480 Yes.

00:00:36.680 Would you like to know more?

00:00:39.540 Okay, okay, before we get into the main topic, this is sort of related.

00:00:44.360 I was walking around our backyard this morning, Malcolm, and I heard the weirdest noise.

00:00:50.500 And I was so confused.

00:00:52.400 And I was by the chicken coop, and I hear what sounds like a goose.

00:00:57.400 It was like, ha, like that, basically.

00:01:00.640 And I was like, is there a goose?

00:01:03.760 Like, you know, but the previous people who owned this house used to have geese in the

00:01:07.040 chicken coop.

00:01:07.620 So I thought like, what?

00:01:08.520 I mean, I don't know, like has a goose broken in to the chicken coop?

00:01:11.580 Has it like assimilated with our flock?

00:01:13.520 But no, turns out that when roosters, we have one male chicken, when they're going through

00:01:21.120 their little puberty, and they start to try to like, they like do it very awkwardly.

00:01:29.500 And it was just him completely failing to like.

00:01:33.220 He's trying to be tough.

00:01:34.400 And he's always trying to be tough to the other.

00:01:36.200 Oh, yeah.

00:01:36.820 The hens.

00:01:37.560 Yeah, he's always like.

00:01:38.220 So he goes around and bosses him about and like.

00:01:41.040 Yeah.

00:01:41.360 And sometimes, because we have big chickens and little chickens, we put them in the big 0.97

00:01:44.260 chicken coop to try to get him to handle the big hens, because they're kind of dumb 0.94

00:01:48.120 and annoying, and they'll end up just bullying him. 0.97

00:01:51.520 And so this is him trying to be cool.

00:01:53.320 Like he's like this teenage.

00:01:55.020 But yeah, it's like his voice cracking.

00:01:57.380 It's about like trying to be masculine and cool and just utterly failing.

00:02:03.280 Yeah.

00:02:03.560 Yeah.

00:02:03.860 Bullying everyone smaller.

00:02:04.920 And then as soon as he gets put with the bigger chickens, he freaks out.

00:02:09.120 It's like, let me move on.

00:02:10.820 He's trying to get back to his coop.

00:02:12.560 So we put him back in the one of the birds to his side.

00:02:14.920 Yeah.

00:02:15.180 We don't want to hurt his feelings or anything, but also like.

00:02:18.400 You've started, you've given him chicken trauma.

00:02:20.840 Yeah.

00:02:21.260 I, you know, I'm so sorry.

00:02:23.220 He's afraid of giant women now. 1.00

00:02:26.180 But you know, this is not, you know, there are many people who experience extraordinary

00:02:30.980 transporting things like this, like mysterious honks.

00:02:34.260 Yeah.

00:02:34.920 So some of our listeners, and by the way, hello, Simone.

00:02:37.980 It is wonderful to be here with you today.

00:02:39.760 Hello, gorgeous husband.

00:02:41.200 So one of our listeners is like, yeah, you've mentioned in other videos that you're like

00:02:44.700 really into cryptid YouTube and like aliens YouTube.

00:02:48.760 And not just that, I've actually spoken on it on another podcast.

00:02:51.680 So there's another podcast that like goes into this stuff.

00:02:53.740 I don't remember the name of it, but it's by like a professor.

00:02:56.380 And I want to say MIT or Yale.

00:02:57.860 So like a educated professor type guy and like the way that he is being secretly under, under

00:03:04.620 the system is he believes in aliens visiting us and was, was talking to me about that.

00:03:09.500 Now, the question here is, as somebody who consumes a ton of content on ghosts and aliens and cryptids

00:03:21.240 and all of that, do I believe any of it's real?

00:03:27.460 If so, which of it do I think is most likely to be real?

00:03:30.600 So I'd say the first, like the most interesting thing about asking me this question is I actually

00:03:39.220 sort of don't, like, I don't really think that any of the stories that I have heard have

00:03:47.500 a high likelihood and yet I keep consuming them.

00:03:50.880 Like I find them just so interesting to investigate.

00:03:53.940 You can't get enough of it.

00:03:55.120 And it's enough.

00:03:55.760 I will have to say to the public that you will watch a lot of them to the point where

00:04:01.140 you will also leave your closet doors wide open at night.

00:04:05.400 Yeah, well, that's because of Mr. Bolin and all the murderers who hide in closets and kill 0.67

00:04:09.840 people.

00:04:10.080 So I also really like through crime.

00:04:12.120 So it might be sort of the same category.

00:04:14.140 It might be two different categories, but I don't think it's impossible.

00:04:17.060 So I think something that's really important, and I think a lot of people have had their eyes

00:04:20.600 open to this a lot sort of in the post-COVID era.

00:04:24.660 Yeah.

00:04:24.840 Both the media and the government are, like, really comfortable lying to people. 0.97

00:04:29.540 And they will lie about, like, stupid stuff that there is obvious evidence is either true 0.99

00:04:35.420 or not true. 0.99

00:04:36.840 Just, like, going to the academic establishment within our society and using what it is saying

00:04:44.200 or the media establishment as true and untrue is sort of useless in terms of determining

00:04:51.180 what's true.

00:04:51.760 So I can't say that because they say that aliens don't exist, they aren't true.

00:04:56.500 I have to sort of logic it, right?

00:04:58.340 Right.

00:04:58.600 So in other words, you're not going to say just on a blanket basis that cryptids and

00:05:03.720 aliens aren't real. 0.99

00:05:05.540 You are going to really question it.

00:05:07.500 So what's your process?

00:05:08.120 A little bit is, like, easier to disprove, right?

00:05:10.340 Okay.

00:05:10.800 All right.

00:05:11.400 You know, so the flat-headed monster, right?

00:05:14.920 I'm not familiar with a flat-headed monster.

00:05:17.440 I mean, Bigfoot, I know.

00:05:19.700 Sorry.

00:05:20.380 Yeah.

00:05:20.740 Okay.

00:05:21.080 Sorry.

00:05:21.360 I might be going deep with cryptids here.

00:05:22.640 Yeah.

00:05:22.900 Maybe you're a little too into this.

00:05:24.260 Is it checking that I'm talking about a real thing?

00:05:28.880 Or just one of your weirder dreams?

00:05:31.980 No, what's it?

00:05:33.920 Oh, flatwoods monster.

00:05:36.120 Okay.

00:05:37.000 Okay.

00:05:37.300 It's what it's called.

00:05:37.920 Sorry.

00:05:37.980 Still haven't heard of it.

00:05:39.200 Well, it's similar to Mothman, Owlman.

00:05:42.160 It might even be the same thing.

00:05:44.100 But this category of stuff, like Mothman, Owlman.

00:05:48.420 We've watched a bunch of videos analyzing them, right?

00:05:50.720 And, like, the conclusion for a logical person is pretty much always the same.

00:05:54.540 And the answer is Owls.

00:05:56.400 It's probably an Owl.

00:05:56.960 It's always Owls.

00:05:57.700 Big glowing red eyes hovering above the ground.

00:06:00.220 One, an Owl would look like that.

00:06:02.440 And two, like, of course, in the wrong context, you would think that was a monster.

00:06:07.560 Yeah.

00:06:07.820 And three, the real reason is that these monsters are typically only spotted

00:06:11.900 for very short periods of time in a location.

00:06:16.740 Now, there's other types of cryptids that are seen, like, a lot longer over a period.

00:06:21.300 Like, something like the Loch Ness monster.

00:06:23.280 But the Loch Ness monster is pretty easy to dismiss, for me at least,

00:06:27.140 just because there's no photographic evidence.

00:06:29.460 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:06:30.640 There's the iconic toy sticking out of the lake photo.

00:06:32.920 I've gone through all of the photo videos.

00:06:34.460 None of them have convinced me.

00:06:36.840 Whereas now, in an age of cell phones literally everywhere on the floor.

00:06:43.020 I know.

00:06:43.200 I know.

00:06:43.800 While the quality of cameras and proliferation of cameras has increased,

00:06:47.880 the number of pictures or plausible pictures has decreased.

00:06:51.380 Which makes me think that a lot of those very large cryptids that live in places where they

00:06:56.860 might regularly contact humans are almost certainly not real.

00:07:01.560 Well, and here's another thing that convinces me that cryptids and aliens are also not real,

00:07:06.980 at least many of the reports, which is that when you look at movie releases

00:07:11.280 and, like, what the scary either aliens or monsters look like,

00:07:15.480 after one of those movie releases for a decent period, a lot of people see that thing.

00:07:20.560 So it's like, I'm actually, I just read because it's...

00:07:23.140 Well, this is not the truth of the Loch Ness monster.

00:07:24.500 The Loch Ness monster in, like...

00:07:26.120 Is independent of that.

00:07:26.820 Yeah, that's its own thing.

00:07:27.720 That's not, like, a movie-inspired thing.

00:07:29.420 No, no, no.

00:07:29.760 The Loch Ness monster, there's...

00:07:34.120 Trey the Explainer does a really good thing on this.

00:07:36.220 Okay.

00:07:36.500 If people are interested.

00:07:37.840 But yeah, if you look at the history of the Loch Ness monster,

00:07:40.200 it's changed what it's looked like to be like local recent movie releases.

00:07:43.860 Oh my gosh, amazing.

00:07:45.260 And it used to look very different than we see it today.

00:07:48.260 Like, now it's just what the diamonds were like.

00:07:50.300 And in original iterations, I believe it looked pretty different from that,

00:07:54.880 but I forget what it looked like.

00:07:56.100 But hold on, I'm not actually going for the I don't think they're real.

00:07:59.100 Now I can get into more plausible cryptids.

00:08:01.120 Okay, yeah, let's go.

00:08:02.000 Yeah, what is real?

00:08:03.200 Well, actually, first I want to ask, like, Bigfoot, real or not?

00:08:06.680 Plausible cryptid.

00:08:07.580 Bigfoot actually falls into the category of plausible cryptid today.

00:08:11.080 Wow.

00:08:11.860 So we'll get into why I think it's a plausible cryptid.

00:08:14.780 Okay.

00:08:15.560 So there's a trooper called Bob Giblin who does a thing,

00:08:18.340 and he presented this theory, and I found it marginally convincing.

00:08:22.820 I still think very likely it doesn't exist, but it's possible it exists.

00:08:27.560 Okay.

00:08:27.920 So here's what it is.

00:08:28.960 If you look at how much humans have changed,

00:08:31.980 so what this would be as a human subspecies, almost obviously if it existed.

00:08:35.460 Sure.

00:08:36.000 It would be a, we know that humans coexisted with many subspecies of humans for a very long time.

00:08:41.960 Like, this is something we know.

00:08:43.300 Yeah, like Neanderthals, right? 0.95

00:08:44.940 Like Neanderthals and stuff like that.

00:08:46.680 So what Bigfoot would be is a human subspecies that evolved a specialization in its sort of mental processing

00:08:57.720 to stay hidden from other human subspecies. 0.98

00:09:02.540 So it would be like, let's say like 10 standard deviations or 20 standard deviations above a normal human in IQ

00:09:11.800 where that IQ is relevant to not being seen or staying out of the sight of human populations.

00:09:21.060 Bigfoot, God of only seek.

00:09:22.340 That is not an impossible thing to have happened.

00:09:24.640 Yeah, yeah, sure is.

00:09:25.840 And it is something that there would have been evolutionary pressure to have happened,

00:09:30.940 and it would explain why we have so little evidence of them, yet we see recurring stories of things like this across sort of regions.

00:09:43.380 The biggest evidence against Bigfoot is their geographic distribution.

00:09:48.040 They just seem to be way too geographically distributed for me.

00:09:52.220 For something that's that rare?

00:09:53.300 Well, they seem to be sort of everywhere in almost every culture.

00:09:58.480 And that leads me to believe that there is some sort of human predilection to see something like this in our environments.

00:10:04.900 But what about also the human predilection for some humans to be crazy Bushmen who decide to live in the forest and who naturally get pretty hairy? 0.50

00:10:14.980 Well, yeah, so this is a phenomenon that could happen across areas and then could lead to recurring Bigfoot sightings.

00:10:22.960 So we know for a fact that there are men in many different national parks who just, like, are known to be, like, that weird guy who now, like, lives off the land in this park.

00:10:33.320 Yeah, now what's interesting is they've done calculations on this, and it couldn't be, because what a lot of people think is, okay, like, are wild men real?

00:10:40.680 Like, populations of wild people who live in our national parks?

00:10:44.080 Oh, like, actually, not just one-offs, but, like, little colleges.

00:10:45.800 Not just one-offs.

00:10:46.560 They, like, differentiated from normal human populations, maybe, like, in the 1800s or something.

00:10:52.160 Like, they broke off and started living alone in the parks and became, like, weird cannibal groups or, in other ways, some sort of weird, you know, inbred offshoot of humanity.

00:11:01.160 Okay.

00:11:02.120 Likely not, because you need about 80 individuals to maintain the genetic health of a population.

00:11:06.740 Yeah.

00:11:07.040 And a population that size living in the national parks...

00:11:11.040 You'd see it.

00:11:11.960 ...would be seen, especially if they had the types of mental deficits you would associate with that kind of...

00:11:17.160 With how much inbreding.

00:11:18.660 Okay.

00:11:19.220 So, I guess, you know, I'm walking through this from less plausible to most plausible.

00:11:24.980 Okay.

00:11:25.260 So, we're going from, first, like, really low down, I think, very unplausible stuff to...

00:11:31.260 Okay.

00:11:31.860 Ghosts, again, I think that it's something that we would see on camera more.

00:11:37.540 Like, this is why I think ghosts, for example, are less plausible than Bigfoot.

00:11:41.360 So, the idea of a human subspecies that was just, like, so much dramatically smarter than a normal human that it could evade them, fine.

00:11:49.300 I get that.

00:11:50.100 Yeah.

00:11:50.680 Spiritual events that could be easily recorded on camera, and yet we're seeing less of these recordings as time goes on, rather than more of these recordings as cameras become more distributed, that strains credulity to me.

00:12:03.260 But aliens are the real outlier here.

00:12:06.600 Okay.

00:12:07.100 All right.

00:12:07.520 So, first, when I say aliens, I'm just going to say UFOs.

00:12:11.760 They're kind of a difference, right?

00:12:13.120 I mean, like, UFOs, just, like, it could be anything.

00:12:14.900 I mean, it could be, like, a spy plane because it's just an idea.

00:12:16.680 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:16.880 Right here, I'm talking about unexplained aerial encounters.

00:12:19.540 Okay.

00:12:20.140 Or, yeah, unexplained aerial encounters or unexplained encounters that are usually attributed to being UFOs.

00:12:27.600 Okay.

00:12:27.800 Now, the number of these hasn't, like, hasn't declined as much as I would expect.

00:12:34.600 Yeah.

00:12:34.800 And other types of things.

00:12:36.560 In fact, it seems like a lot more were released by the U.S. government recently.

00:12:40.220 It has been identified by the U.S. government, and it seems to be something that one of the reasons we don't see it in our everyday is their high-altitude phenomenon frequently.

00:12:48.820 Right.

00:12:49.280 So, where you see this most frequently is high-altitude phenomenon.

00:12:52.160 Now, I'm actually, I'd say 90%, actually, not even 90%, I'd go higher than that, 98%.

00:12:59.540 There are some very strange high-altitude phenomenon we do not have a good explanation for.

00:13:07.240 Okay, sure.

00:13:07.960 I think most people would agree on that.

00:13:10.260 Well, no, because when you hear a lot of the stories, right, people will discount it.

00:13:16.440 They'll be like, oh, that's this phenomenon we have an explanation for already.

00:13:19.900 Like, some form of ball lightning or something like that.

00:13:21.820 And remember, we didn't even figure out what ball lightning was until fairly recently.

00:13:24.920 That's freaking cool.

00:13:26.200 Oh, my gosh.

00:13:26.900 Yeah.

00:13:27.480 Magnets, man.

00:13:28.500 Ball lightning.

00:13:28.820 Hold on.

00:13:29.180 I'm just looking up.

00:13:30.200 Ball lightning.

00:13:31.300 Oh.

00:13:31.520 So, it says it was discovered June 1195.

00:13:36.260 1995?

00:13:37.120 Come on.

00:13:37.480 We were, like, I don't know.

00:13:39.020 1195.

00:13:40.200 1195.

00:13:41.400 Oh, oh, like the year 1195, not 1995.

00:13:48.240 Yes.

00:13:48.680 Sorry.

00:13:49.060 So, that's not useful.

00:13:50.280 But I think, like, heat lightning or ball lightning, like, there was some astrospheric phenomenon

00:13:55.320 that was only discovered recently.

00:13:56.840 And we also need to remember that the giant squid was only discovered recently and would

00:13:59.980 have been considered a cryptid before that as well.

00:14:01.900 Yeah.

00:14:02.380 So, we see some of these phenomenons.

00:14:04.580 Now, with other deep sea stuff, I think there's likely lots of big, creepy stuff we don't know

00:14:08.940 in the deep ocean.

00:14:09.760 Yeah.

00:14:09.960 Because we do know about deep ocean gigantification.

00:14:12.320 So, that's not even, like, a cryptid anymore.

00:14:14.080 I'd say, like, that there are giant monsters living at the bottom of the ocean.

00:14:17.480 Yes.

00:14:18.020 Now, these monsters could be giant crabs or something like that.

00:14:21.240 Like, we don't know.

00:14:22.340 But they would be called monsters in common parlance.

00:14:24.960 Yeah.

00:14:25.460 Because crabs. 0.66

00:14:26.560 This is something I want to talk about.

00:14:27.840 What do I think is going on here with missing time phenomenon?

00:14:33.640 Even, like, low-to-the-ground atmospheric phenomenon where you see things happening.

00:14:39.180 I think that the very least likely explanation for this is extraterrestrials.

00:14:44.640 Of all the explanations, I think that's the least plausible.

00:14:48.100 And I would say it's dramatically less plausible than them being humans from the future.

00:14:53.740 So, this is where I need to get into why I think it's so less plausible.

00:14:58.040 So, we're talking about the most plausible is that it is an atmospheric phenomenon we don't

00:15:02.020 have an explanation for yet.

00:15:03.260 Okay.

00:15:03.540 Something to do with electricity or gases or something like that.

00:15:08.200 Yeah.

00:15:09.240 Oh, another thing that we need to note, which is just really common for me from a lot of

00:15:13.200 mystery stories, because I really love, like, 411 cases and stuff like that.

00:15:17.260 Yes.

00:15:17.660 Is, I used to be a schizophrenia researcher, and people don't seem to realize how common,

00:15:24.640 like, psychotic episodes are, and that they can happen in somebody who's never had a history

00:15:29.540 of them.

00:15:30.320 Like, a lot of the stuff that you see is just a tragic example of that.

00:15:33.820 Like, there was a recent case of the guy, never done anything wrong, takes his truck into

00:15:38.100 the woods, like a giant, like, 16-wheeler truck into the woods and, like, terrorizes this

00:15:42.360 forest for a while and then is found dead randomly somewhere else in the woods and the truck

00:15:46.760 has found abandoned.

00:15:47.760 Right.

00:15:47.920 And people are like, oh, like, mysterious.

00:15:50.020 Like, no, that's just, like, a pretty obvious psychotic break.

00:15:52.640 Like, somebody saw him in the middle of this cycle, and they were like, he's like, it wasn't

00:15:57.440 me, it wasn't my fault.

00:15:58.520 Like, that's a common thing someone would say during a schizophrenic break.

00:16:01.980 So a lot of this, what you're just seeing is schizophrenia.

00:16:04.200 Or other types.

00:16:05.360 Now, a very common, like, if you have, like, a lower level of schizophrenia, a very common

00:16:08.660 symptom of schizophrenia, where I theorize that all the symptoms of schizophrenia come

00:16:13.180 from, is that you have a lower level threshold for activation of your theory of mind detector.

00:16:20.540 So you're likely to see a theory of mind in things that don't have a theory of mind.

00:16:24.640 So you can see this as, like, store window displays, or you could see it as, I've seen

00:16:29.060 three helicopters today.

00:16:30.080 That must mean that there's a plan, and they're tracking me.

00:16:32.140 And, like, that's applying theory of mind where theory of mind shouldn't exist.

00:16:35.240 Um, and so you'll see this in a lot of, in a lot of psychotic breaks, or sort of low

00:16:39.880 level schizophrenia cases, you know.

00:16:42.220 So anyway, which isn't actually exactly the same thing.

00:16:44.620 It's like schizoaffective disorder, where some people might think it is, but I don't

00:16:47.420 want to get into all that.

00:16:48.720 Because we're talking cryptids and UFOs.

00:16:50.660 Get back to the aliens.

00:16:51.520 Get back to UFOs, okay?

00:16:52.840 Come on, man.

00:16:53.620 So most likely explanation is atmospheric phenomenon we don't have an explanation for yet.

00:16:58.060 Okay.

00:16:58.680 But, but that's not an interesting explanation.

00:17:01.560 So let's go with the more plausible, interesting explanation, and why I think future humans

00:17:06.800 is more plausible than aliens.

00:17:09.740 For one, you have to keep in mind, I'm going to be heavily biased by my own theology.

00:17:14.340 As you know, Simone and I have a theology around future humans influencing humanity to

00:17:20.580 manifest their own creation.

00:17:22.620 Where I think it is almost an inevitability that a million years from now, if humanity or

00:17:28.100 whatever we become is still around, that we, those beings will likely be closer to gods

00:17:33.600 than the way we conceptualize humans today.

00:17:36.540 And they would likely relate to time very differently than we do today.

00:17:40.220 So I'll do a little bit about time right here, because somebody was like, you should talk more

00:17:44.560 about how you conceive time.

00:17:46.140 And we talk about that in two other videos that you should really check out.

00:17:49.560 The free will versus determinism video.

00:17:51.160 It's very important to our understanding of time.

00:17:52.960 And what's behind the fabric of reality video is really important to our understanding of

00:17:56.800 time. But to talk a bit more about this, when we look at the ways that we as humans right

00:18:01.780 now engage with physics, you know, we can engage with like physical matter and move it and stuff

00:18:07.280 like that. And a lot of our physics is around different and unique ways of engaging physical

00:18:11.740 matter, like moving it around this four dimensional plane.

00:18:15.260 The one dimension we don't really engage with is time in any meaningful context right now.

00:18:20.020 And yet we know that you can engage with time.

00:18:23.040 We know from gravity wells and stuff like that.

00:18:24.740 Time is warped. This is like an incontrovertible part of physics right now.

00:18:29.080 Time is malleable.

00:18:31.680 Now, it seems to be with our current understanding of physics, you cannot travel backwards in time.

00:18:38.460 That is true.

00:18:40.600 In our current understanding of physics, it does not appear...

00:18:42.840 Well, okay, lots of caveats here.

00:18:44.500 Like particles might be able to travel backwards in time, but like large intentional macro things

00:18:49.900 can't travel backwards in time. Like very small things or information can't travel backwards in

00:18:54.560 time, depending on which model of physics you're using. But we do know that you can sort of play

00:18:59.200 with time in different ways. It would be interesting and where I think the biggest breakthroughs in

00:19:04.980 physics that we are not anticipating with our current model of physics are going to have to do

00:19:10.760 as relations of time. Like, as I've said, I suspect that future power generation might be through

00:19:17.320 manipulating time. I mean, if you had asked people a couple hundred years ago, did they think that by

00:19:24.120 splitting atoms, like the fundamental building block of matter, that that would be a major way

00:19:30.060 that we could capture power? I think people would be like, no, it's insane. If you ask people today,

00:19:36.040 do you think that by, I wouldn't call it splitting time, I don't know exactly how it's going to work,

00:19:41.240 but in some way, manipulating time would be a major source of power generation? No, I don't think so.

00:19:47.260 But I think if you just look at our current understanding of physics, it seems like it

00:19:51.080 would be the most sustainable power generator out of all conceivable power generators. Like it wouldn't

00:19:56.880 burn material in the same way that all existing means of power generation burn material, which would

00:20:03.140 allow you to do really interesting things. Another thing to remember is with our current

00:20:07.980 understanding of physics, like it does look like time bubbles are probably possible. And by that,

00:20:12.220 what I mean is you can likely bud off parts of our universe into other universes where time in one

00:20:20.540 universe doesn't interact with time in the other universe anymore. Now, this is far beyond our ability

00:20:25.180 in physics, but it seems consistent with our understanding of even like basic physics today.

00:20:29.440 Okay. So the idea of like isolated time bubbles are not necessarily impossible. And this is why when

00:20:36.700 I look at like a booming AI, how is it going to generate power? I suspect it'll be in ways that are

00:20:43.400 very, very, very difficult for us to conceive today. Now that I think about it, this might actually be

00:20:48.160 the most likely explanation for the Fermi paradox, which is that when an entity, species, whatever reaches a

00:20:56.860 certain level of intelligence or technology, that it begins to be able to generate energy and

00:21:02.820 potentially even matter in a way that is non-destructive. So when we think about energy

00:21:09.300 today, you know, humans assume that there will be a fight or a conflict over future energy. But if

00:21:14.800 energy can be generated from the very nature of reality itself, then there's not as much reason to

00:21:22.000 continue to expand outwards at least. It might also mean that aliens like this when they expand

00:21:28.400 may find it energy cheaper to expand across dimensions than to expand spatially within the

00:21:37.140 existing solar system. So there's all sorts of things like that, where when we look at things

00:21:41.720 from our very, very myopic view right now, in terms of our understanding of physics, we can be like,

00:21:46.680 why aren't there aliens everywhere? And the answer might just be super obvious. Like, well,

00:21:50.400 it's so much cheaper to go across dimensions to your own planet than it is to try to go to a

00:21:56.860 different planet. Or, well, I mean, why would you expand when you can just, you know, generate energy

00:22:03.580 from time or something like that? Keep in mind that AI isn't the only thing that can foom. You know,

00:22:08.520 humans that can begin to edit their own DNA and edit their own brains can also begin to foom. 0.87

00:22:13.460 You can have a biological foom just as much as you can have a synthetic foom.

00:22:16.960 So it's important to remember that there's many ways that our species or whatever we end up

00:22:22.500 becoming ends up fooming. And when those things are fooming, they will relate to time differently.

00:22:28.320 So that's, that's one thing. So I almost think it's an inevitability that a future iteration of

00:22:35.100 humanity would relate to time differently than the way we relate to time. Now the question is,

00:22:38.800 can it go back in time? So let's talk about what we would know about these aliens. Like suppose

00:22:41.580 they're real, suppose they exist. What do we know about them? We know they go to great care,

00:22:47.400 even though they seem to visit us fairly frequently, to not be talked about in like a big way with

00:22:53.900 impressed or acknowledged by mainstream society. Like they appear to care about discretion.

00:23:01.640 They also appear to be astronomically more technologically advanced than us.

00:23:06.680 And they appear to be here in fairly small numbers. By that, what I mean is this is not some

00:23:14.560 big invasion force or something like that. We haven't even had one like planet-sized ship with

00:23:21.140 thousands of aliens trying to integrate with our species. I think that reptilian theories are,

00:23:26.800 to me, fairly easy to disprove.

00:23:29.600 The insider access that Simone and I have to elite corners of society that we would know if these

00:23:37.480 things were happening. So that being the case, okay, so I don't believe in the reptoids and I

00:23:43.700 don't think the, so why don't I think aliens are from another planet? Okay. So a few reasons.

00:23:47.940 These features that sort of unite modern alien sightings would make perfect sense that it was

00:23:52.180 future humans. If it was future humans, they likely wouldn't want to disrupt timelines that much.

00:23:57.140 They might be attempting to disrupt the timeline, but in very specific ways to guide future

00:24:05.540 possibilities to come to exist. But if that's their goal in interacting with the timeline,

00:24:11.520 then they're less likely to like abduct or mess with high profile people. Instead,

00:24:16.340 they would likely use butterfly effect like abductions where they abduct relevant people,

00:24:21.560 mess with them in ways that ends up messing with influential people to do things they need to do.

00:24:26.800 Because if you were, you know, painting reality, you would want to interfere in the minimum way

00:24:34.180 possible while still having the sorts of effects that you're going to have in the future. And that

00:24:39.600 interference could even look like floating bowling balls of light, you know, floating glowing balls

00:24:45.660 of light, you know, flying around a plane or something like that. Like that could have butterfly effects.

00:24:51.340 So it could be that these balls aren't even that sentient or anything like that. They are just being 0.71

00:24:54.820 guided to look that way for the impact that has on the timeline. That would be a very logical thing

00:25:00.280 to do if you were this super intelligent entity.

00:25:02.200 I just love this, this theoretical conversation of like future humans that are godlike in power. And

00:25:07.120 they're like, yeah, I mean, how do we change the entire timeline? It's like actually pretty simple.

00:25:12.360 I mean, just a glowing ball, believe it or not. I don't know. It just works. It's just weird.

00:25:18.320 Yeah. I don't know.

00:25:18.860 Well, I mean, it would work and it would be the way they would be engaging with us because it would

00:25:23.080 be much harder to predict all of the variable outcomes of wide scale interaction, like interacting

00:25:30.400 with us through a television show or something like that, which is why I would, another part of the

00:25:35.460 theory would be that while aliens are real, the least likely to be real aliens are the ones you see the

00:25:41.120 most media coverage on. So the, the giant eyed, weird looking ones. No, no, no, no, no. The like,

00:25:48.140 so like an incident that gets a lot of coverage, like the Phoenix night, nightlights. Like there

00:25:52.240 was this one instance where it was over a major city and like, oh, and like tons of people filmed

00:25:56.300 it. Okay. This would be a likely to be fake sighting. Whereas random person who says they were

00:26:03.960 abducted with their wife or random pilot who says, I saw lights outside of my, my, my plane.

00:26:11.420 They're most likely to be telling the truth, which is pretty interesting because this future

00:26:15.920 entity would know what ends up getting caught in the media, what ends up being told about in the

00:26:19.900 media, what ends up getting covered in the way it gets covered. Now, why do I not think that they're

00:26:25.280 aliens? Well, there's a few reasons. One is, I just don't think it would be worth it for most 1.00

00:26:30.940 aliens to travel all the way to earth to fuck with us in the way that aliens seem to be fucking 1.00

00:26:36.860 with us. It is very trivial and weird ways to mess with people, to be interacting in the atmosphere 1.00

00:26:44.380 in a way where you're not really communicating with people, but like just flying around in our

00:26:49.420 upper atmosphere. Yeah. To randomly fly over a city and then disappear to, to, to randomly fly and

00:26:57.440 then crash in a way where it can be like recovered by the military. Yeah. It's kind of funny to think

00:27:03.180 that like they would develop the technology to do interplanetary channel, like travel. And then

00:27:08.120 they like get to us and they're like, Oh, I can't drive anymore. Like, I don't know. Just, yeah.

00:27:12.060 Yeah. Well, they see the way of messing with us. It's just fucking with us. It would be like

00:27:15.640 teenage aliens come to earth just to fuck with us. But then also they have the self-control to not be 1.00

00:27:20.660 caught by us. That seems unlikely. I don't know. It kind of reminds me of that Rick and Morty episode

00:27:25.620 with like, show us what you got. Like, you know, we could always end up on some intergalactic game

00:27:31.540 show. Well, also we've got to think about what would be the nature of most alien species. So there's

00:27:37.160 sort of two types of alien species. One is an alien species that's like very thoughtful and expands

00:27:42.440 slowly and is, you know, this is the kind alien species. They run into us and they're not interested

00:27:48.400 in wiping us out. But then you have grabby aliens, which is the other type of alien species,

00:27:51.600 which is just interested in super, super fast expansion. Okay. Did you say grabby?

00:27:56.600 Grabby. It's a technical term. You could look it up. It's used in a lot of math equations on how

00:28:00.760 all aliens would expand in the universe and you should expect to see the first other aliens.

00:28:05.380 Now we might become a grabby alien species if we turn out to be a very expansionist system.

00:28:10.620 Might. Well, and you know that Simone and I, of our faction, of our vision for humanity ends up

00:28:16.300 spreading, we will become a very grabby species. Grabby species, while they may let a species live,

00:28:22.840 they're typically not awesome to have in your neighborhood because they're typically so

00:28:26.700 interested in expansion and they're typically, you know, very technologically advanced compared to

00:28:32.540 native species. These species expand as a civilization almost as fast as they can travel.

00:28:40.080 So if they develop speed of light travel, they are expanding as a civilization, you know, and when

00:28:46.680 I say as soon, I mean, they might go to a new planet set up, get set up for like 100, 500 years.

00:28:51.800 That's not really that long in the scale of the universe. And then immediately be moving to the

00:28:56.400 next planet or planet system. But realistically, they're probably moving like 50, 20 years after

00:29:01.580 they get to a new planet. So they would expand incredibly quickly. And why this is relevant

00:29:07.560 is you're not likely to get multi-hundred year scouting parties on Earth with this type of

00:29:14.360 species. Yeah, because they would just take us out. They would just take us out. Yeah. Or they would 0.97

00:29:19.240 be here and not care because expansion to them is more important than any sort of prime directive

00:29:23.660 or anything like that. Right. Yeah. But why would they do it? Like, what is the prime directive

00:29:28.420 other than like a weird zoo that's like was in your empire, but you don't, what? Like that seems

00:29:34.740 unlikely to me. Okay. So let's recap then. Hold on. Hold on. So we got Bigfoot, maybe other cryptids,

00:29:40.320 mostly not UFOs, probably just future humans doing time travel nonsense and anything else?

00:29:50.620 Hmm. What other aliens? Oh, like most other cryptids, owls, owls, always owls.

00:29:55.740 Most other cryptids, owls. I mean, the joke was cryptids in the cryptid, like skeptic community.

00:30:00.400 It's owls. Owls. It's always owls.

00:30:02.800 Is that what we're doing?

00:30:04.140 Well, you get sad because you run out of cryptids. I always want new cryptids to look at or new cryptids.

00:30:08.300 I love owls. Owls are great.

00:30:10.300 So another thing about ghosts, which I should note from-

00:30:13.000 Oh yeah, ghosts. Probably not.

00:30:15.220 Well, so we have two reasons. I mean, one is personal experience. So I worked at the Smithsonian's

00:30:21.600 anthropology department.

00:30:22.800 Which is famously haunted? What? Like, how is that?

00:30:26.160 Well, so I like working at odd times, as people know. So I regularly get there at two in the

00:30:31.280 morning. I regularly leave at two in the morning. Almost every day I get there around two or three

00:30:34.740 in the morning. I was one of the first people in the Smithsonian. I said, people don't know this

00:30:37.780 about the back roads of the Smithsonian. I'll leave and see if I can find pictures of them.

00:30:40.440 But the department I worked in was floor to ceiling human bones.

00:30:46.140 What the bones are haunted?

00:30:48.100 Well, these aren't just human bones.

00:30:51.520 They're often Native American bones that were taken from their resting sites improperly because

00:30:58.100 the Smithsonian has been around for a long time. And they have tried to return what they

00:31:02.920 can, but their labeling systems aren't always as good as a person would like.

00:31:06.520 I don't think we have empirical evidence to suggest that, like, indigenous bones are more

00:31:11.880 likely to create ghosts.

00:31:14.400 Well, it's not just indigenous bones. The point being is they have bones from many periods taken

00:31:19.960 likely and properly from almost every culture in the world at a density that is likely unmatched

00:31:26.660 anywhere in the world. And I was there at all the spooky times working with lots and lots of human

00:31:33.300 bones.

00:31:33.940 You were nervous at all. You were not nervous at all?

00:31:36.180 At all. It actually felt very comfy and safe to me. And the reason it felt comfy and safe

00:31:41.580 to me is, so I actually worked in the department where bones was supposed to be filmed at one

00:31:45.820 point. So bones, so this is something that the Smithsonian does and people have seen the

00:31:50.840 show bones and you actually act a lot like temperance Brennan, which I, which I absolutely 0.92

00:31:54.480 love that I saw this show and I met like a real temperance Brennan, but anyway, so the show

00:31:58.280 bones takes place where there's this crime detective unit at the Smithsonian that like looks at

00:32:02.420 corpses that are too decomposed. This is a real thing. They actually would take bones to my

00:32:07.780 department at the Smithsonian if they were too decomposed. And it was a department that at one

00:32:11.580 point I actually ran, not because I technically ran it, but because everyone else went on a dig in

00:32:16.620 Africa. And I was like, look, I've done field work for the last five summers in a row. I want to just

00:32:21.160 sit here and work.

00:32:22.200 So you're just the one who was left.

00:32:24.480 But they went fine. So I was the only person in the department, not because of like, I was

00:32:29.100 technically actually writing anything. I was just writing it because I was-

00:32:31.260 Or the intern who was left behind.

00:32:33.160 I was the intern who was left behind. But they only get like one case a year or something like

00:32:37.580 that.

00:32:38.240 And they also don't have a beautiful like glass office, multi-store.

00:32:42.080 Oh no, no, no. It was really small. Yeah. So the point I was going to get to is the reason I

00:32:44.980 always felt so safe there is the hallways are so cramped and the rooms are so cramped that somebody

00:32:51.360 like me who always likes to, who really feels safe in environments with a lot of clutter and a lot,

00:32:57.540 but like organized clutter and sort of a musky smell. And like your, your back is always to a

00:33:03.860 corner. Like I felt really safe in this environment. Now a corner filled with bones, but-

00:33:08.660 Well, you can always use the bones to impale someone who attacked you.

00:33:12.120 Yeah. Bones to fight the ghosts.

00:33:13.720 Weapons everywhere. Weapons everywhere. Yeah.

00:33:15.300 But then the other environment, it's like, okay, well, so it could turn out that ghosts aren't tied to

00:33:19.120 bones, but they're sort of like imprints left by humans on specific locations.

00:33:23.740 Yes. No, you, you yourself have admitted that sometimes we get into houses and it's like,

00:33:28.620 Oh, well, what's interesting is our house is from the 1700s.

00:33:32.680 Yeah.

00:33:33.020 Many people have lived and died in this house.

00:33:35.780 Tons in this very room, probably at least like five people have died.

00:33:39.480 That's the master bedroom. At least five people have died.

00:33:41.720 At least five people. It's the nicest room.

00:33:43.520 Astral phenomenon. Although you could say, everybody says the house feels like uniquely wholesome,

00:33:48.980 like more wholesome than it should feel. And so it may have like a positive haunting where

00:33:55.640 it's just nice ghosts.

00:33:56.920 Yeah. Well, and we've also been in other historical houses where it's like, I do not want to be

00:34:01.040 here right now. And I would not be okay.

00:34:02.660 Yeah. I definitely feel that. Like bad vibe houses.

00:34:04.560 So like, what's that? What do you think that is? You know, that, that's a cryptid thing.

00:34:08.480 What's your theory?

00:34:10.540 You think it's carbon monoxide?

00:34:12.600 No.

00:34:12.780 The houses are structured in a way that feels very undefensible to a modern way. Like it feels

00:34:18.460 off and very big spaces. The houses that I feel really scared in are usually the most mansiony

00:34:25.480 houses, whether they're old or new. And they are the ones with the biggest spaces and the emptiest

00:34:30.920 spaces. So in our house, every space is sort of utilized for something. Like I'm in a bedroom right

00:34:37.580 here and you can see the kids like bunk beds being built into the walls next to an old fireplace and

00:34:41.940 everything like that. Every room has a purpose. And I think it's purposeless rooms that create

00:34:47.740 that feeling of dread, but it could be the only time I've like literally a phenomenon. Yeah.

00:34:53.960 At one point before I met you, I was in a hotel in New York, really tiny, tiny room. Cause I was

00:34:58.900 on a college budget, but like I had an experience in the early morning where I like could like packed

00:35:05.660 up right away and left. I do think that there are some spaces. I don't know. Like I do not

00:35:11.680 believe in ghosts, but like, I believe in. There might be emotional imprints on the fabric

00:35:17.680 of reality, but if that's true, that means emotions interact with the fabric of reality

00:35:21.900 in a way that modern physics doesn't capture, which.

00:35:24.020 Well, and like also doesn't work at all with our metaphysical model because we just see

00:35:28.000 emotions as signals. Like I don't think it's that. I think it's probably, so, you know,

00:35:32.540 there's Skinwalker Ranch, right? That's another really interesting.

00:35:35.320 Yeah. But that's very, very likely to be. Yeah. So, so wait for background, for those

00:35:41.240 who don't know about Skinwalker Ranch, it is a ranch that has been investigated for like

00:35:45.780 maybe over 20 years now for strange phenomena that take place. Like cows are found, like

00:35:51.320 gutted out with people there, like see things and freak out and get really paranoid and start

00:35:56.880 like bolting doors and covering windows with nonsense and just completely losing it. And it seems

00:36:03.080 really clear that there may be some kind of not yet understood fungus. It's like coming

00:36:08.420 out from the ground. Yeah. My read is it's probably like a, a, a time related fungus thing,

00:36:14.000 or it might be like a mountain range in a unique spot where you would expect atmospheric phenomenon

00:36:20.940 if they were like clustering in an area. Yeah. It could be one of those things, but here's

00:36:25.120 the other option. Okay. Suppose it was future humans. A lot of these phenomenon that we see

00:36:28.900 like mutilated cows and stuff like that. Well, that would, why would, why would humans from the 0.99

00:36:33.280 future go to Skinwalker Ranch and mutilate cows? Well, they would likely have locations that they

00:36:37.720 would return to regularly that there are. Oh, like they have a portal there or something?

00:36:42.300 The thing with Skinwalker Ranch is it's so well covered. I doubt it would be an area that they

00:36:46.060 would return. Yeah. They might have a facility that like, maybe you need to build facilities to do

00:36:49.940 this, but then, you know, if you're going back in time, Earth is in a completely different

00:36:53.620 location vis-a-vis the world. Well, maybe it's kind of like, what is it? A transporter from Star Trek,

00:36:58.120 but like, if you do it wrong, like the guts come out the wrong side, like it could be a side effect

00:37:01.900 of time travel where like, oops, like the organs of this mammal. Well, so there's two options here.

00:37:07.660 Cows could be people experimenting with early time travel. That would be interesting. Now, another

00:37:13.460 thing is, is if you wanted to influence human populations, like suppose you wanted to influence

00:37:17.920 the evolution of human populations, would want to influence us through our food supply and studying

00:37:24.440 cows would likely be very important. Like if you were trying to manifest a certain evolutionary pathway

00:37:30.760 for humanity, yeah, you'd want to be messing with crops and animals. People in society today,

00:37:36.260 we look at crops and animals as being ancillary or backwards or irrelevant. But if you are a future

00:37:42.520 human trying to influence the genetic direction of the species, crops and livestock actually become

00:37:48.880 pretty interesting, likely more interesting than urban populations. Oh, so are we getting to crop

00:37:54.840 circles now? It's just like botched attempts to like bioengineer crop and like accidentally the 0.80

00:38:00.780 application method, like looks like a weird circly thing. Well, so a lot of crop circles, if you go

00:38:06.820 really deep on crop circles, it's actually pretty interesting. Okay. People came out and crop

00:38:12.400 circles, I actually think are a very high likelihood to be a real phenomenon. What? No, there's like all

00:38:16.920 these stories of people making them. Yes. But those people also seem to be tied to CIA and stuff like

00:38:23.780 that. So we do know that a lot of people faked crop circles. Oh, to like make other like, so to cover

00:38:28.660 up the ones that are not explained. Yeah. There's very good evidence that the people faking crop circles

00:38:33.400 were, some were just jokers. CIA plants. Okay. So some jokers, some CIA plants, you're saying,

00:38:41.040 and then some real. There is such a confluence of evidence that I would say was a 95% certainty

00:38:48.240 that at least one intelligence agency was paying people to make crop circles. Okay. And didn't say

00:38:54.480 that I fake made crop circles. Now, the question is, why would they do this? Yeah. This is actually a

00:39:00.420 very interesting question. And the answer is, well, because crop circles are real. You wouldn't

00:39:06.280 do this if crop circles weren't real. You wouldn't have an interest in convincing. I don't know. It

00:39:11.100 could be that like, you need a new cycle that you know is going to be likely to get eaten up by some

00:39:17.580 subject you need to not have surface. It could have been distracting from something else. But if you look

00:39:21.460 at some instances of crop circles, there are some instances of crop circles that are very hard

00:39:26.080 to explain through other means. This is to me, ultimate skeptic, ultimate skeptic. I'm pretty

00:39:34.520 fucking skeptical. So, but let's look at crop circles from a non, like what could crop circles 0.72

00:39:40.260 be? Right. Okay. Crop circles seem to me to be either an atmospheric phenomenon or a genuine

00:39:49.020 attempt at communication. If it's a genuine attempt at communication, well, this, I do not think it's like

00:39:54.960 a spaceship landing. Okay. I think it's much more likely somebody on a planet very, very, very, very

00:40:02.880 far from us trying to write something as small as they can. Well, no, think about it. So you're on a

00:40:09.300 planet very far from earth and you're trying to communicate with us and you need to write on

00:40:13.620 something, right? Yeah. Okay. Crops would likely look like a very good medium. Well, yeah. Cause you

00:40:18.680 know, the humans are using it. So that's there and they're nice and uniform. So that helps, but why

00:40:25.340 wouldn't you just do it on a parking lot? Well, I doubt it would. I doubt it would. So suppose-

00:40:31.880 It would be noticed much more early. What? A singed parking lot with like little doodles on it. Totally.

00:40:37.600 People would notice that. Maybe, but you're also much more likely to actually incinerate someone.

00:40:42.860 Oh, that's sweet. Oh, so they're being careful. Well, we know that no crop circles have killed

00:40:48.060 someone yet, as far as we know. As far as we know. Well, I mean, that's an important thing. You

00:40:53.080 know, what they're doing seems like it would, if a human was in the area at the time, kill them. 0.97

00:40:58.100 Yeah. If crop circles are real. Right. So that's interesting. So yeah. One theme that I really

00:41:05.540 like throughout this, this, this conversation is the role that a person's metaphysical framework

00:41:11.140 or religious framework plays and how they interpret cryptids. Like I, you know, you're

00:41:15.440 like, well, you know, it's, it's obviously future humans. Cause that's, that's, you know,

00:41:18.940 those are our gods and that is our metaphysical belief. Like I, I could totally see other people

00:41:23.020 being like, so obviously it's angels or, you know, obviously it's aliens could also be future

00:41:28.880 humans. It would be a nice way to influence people that would have less extraneous variables

00:41:34.320 attached to it. Yeah. Or it could be like a timestamp that they used. I mean, you know,

00:41:40.820 no, no, I, I, I agree with, with all of this. Yeah. So that's our sort of tier list for cryptids

00:41:48.020 and aliens and phenomenon. Okay. In the comments, can people please share their like real life ghost

00:41:54.340 stories with us? Cause I really like those. They have to be true. Don't give me fake creepy pasta

00:42:00.160 stories. I want your real encounters with plausible big feet, ghosts, goblins, whatever nonsense. 0.85

00:42:07.420 Love you too, mom. Love you too, Malcolm.

Based Camp - October 02, 2023

Our Plausible Cryptid Tier List - Bigfoot, Ghosts, Aliens, and More!

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