Based Camp - Peacocking： The History, Science, & Anthropology

00:00:00.000 in the history of peacocking as soon as dishonest signaling has been figured out by a group the

00:00:04.720 honest signalers choose a different signal so in humans honest signaling honest peacocking would

00:00:11.140 be buying a sports car which is hurting lowering your overall fitness the partner who is the

00:00:17.520 gatekeeper is unlikely to attempt to peacock um sales when you are out searching for a long-term

00:00:26.640 partner very rarely peacock even if they are familiar with the concept in fact oh yeah take

00:00:34.880 heed women yeah when males who have lots of wealth date specifically for marriage they attempt to hide

00:00:43.080 how much wealth they have whereas when they date for casual sex they peacock would you like to know

00:00:49.160 more hello malcolm i'm so excited to be speaking with you today because both men and women who

00:00:55.240 choose spouses based on looks are both telling on themselves and implicitly committed to something

00:01:00.940 without realizing it and so we should be really thinking about this and talking about it basically

00:01:06.400 when you're being choosy about who you partner with it's because you implicitly understand and may

00:01:13.180 actually be signaling to other people that you're going to do most of the work and or take on

00:01:17.500 significant risk and i think that that's underrated in discussion wait wait hold on no you got to

00:01:24.500 explain this to me in in simpler terms so we can get the hook out because i want to understand this

00:01:30.560 concept that you're talking about figure let's say your king is con right you don't really care who

00:01:39.200 you are surprise sexing you are just doing it because you're not put at risk by doing that i guess

00:01:45.820 stds weren't very widespread at that point and you're not investing in raising the kids he literally

00:01:50.640 die having sex with someone i mean he what he apparently did put himself at risk it's just like

00:01:56.020 when when when certain what sea turtles or something gets stuck having sex underwater and they're like

00:02:00.740 oh no was that king is con or was that no that was who was the one who went into europe the he led the

00:02:05.820 huns um attila attila died having sex wow i mean again it's risky but no i mean in general right

00:02:15.220 that's that's not the case and so the direction because i had to work this out of her that she 1.00

00:02:22.600 plans to go is this is a really interesting argument she made to me this morning that i hadn't heard

00:02:27.820 before that when you are peacocking is one way to think of it but in women this would be something 1.00

00:02:34.380 like wearing lots of makeup and acting you know really prissy and putting on that that very gendered 0.99

00:02:39.540 right in an attempt to secure a partner you are signaling to the partner that you are going to

00:02:47.300 expect them to do the majority of the labor within the relationship and a lot of people don't realize

00:02:55.840 that this is the signal that they're fundamentally sending and you can be like this is crazy this isn't

00:03:02.540 true at all but actually if you think about it for a few seconds i think it's something that's

00:03:06.800 intuitive to most people when i met simone i specifically preferred to date women who did

00:03:13.800 not wear makeup i actively looked for a partner who didn't wear makeup and didn't put a lot of effort

00:03:21.140 into how they appeared to other people who didn't invest heavily in signaling right because to me that

00:03:28.700 was a signal that they were dedicating more of their daily effort they'd signal that they were the

00:03:36.180 selective ones meaning that they knew that in a relationship they would bring more value than

00:03:41.920 their partner and therefore they were the discerning one and that is a really big tell in a relationship

00:03:49.100 when i want to divide two categories here just before people misunderstand i am not talking about

00:03:54.760 the person who doesn't wear makeup and doesn't because they're a slob because they're a slob or they 0.76

00:04:00.740 don't have their life together i'm talking about the person who as simone very obviously does and

00:04:05.540 did has their life completely together but doesn't need to signal that to potential yeah okay yeah so

00:04:11.740 we need to yeah so this and this should be very easy to understand but it's actually really really

00:04:16.560 important point that you're making which is there's a very big difference between being a healthy

00:04:21.440 specimen and being fit and peacocking in fact sometimes peacocking makes you less fit this is why we use

00:04:28.280 peacocks as the as the example of this behavior a healthy peacock doesn't need those feathers right

00:04:36.840 a healthy peacock is a robust bird of good size and and you know good plumage right but the the fact

00:04:43.240 that a male peacock has these very cumbersome feathers actually puts it at greater risk that is a fascinating

00:04:48.720 point and i want to expand it while also defining peacocking because some of our fans may not be in the

00:04:54.100 manosphere space or the red pill space and oh right because yeah actually this this term which is is i

00:04:59.000 mean historically we have effective altruists who like this show simone i guess they would know what

00:05:02.920 peacocking is every but like it wasn't always a manosphere right you know the way ellie eiser

00:05:09.200 ukowski dresses constantly that's that's peacocking right like that is he obviously read like a book and

00:05:15.740 then decided i'm gonna wear a top hat 24 7 so that i you know have a conversation no but the point that

00:05:21.740 you made here look at the way that jordan peterson dresses that's peacocking right like this is i'm 0.98

00:05:28.020 gonna be the guy that everyone notices in the room right so i think that the really important point

00:05:33.640 that you made here that i had never considered before is in peacocks the feathers are evolutionarily

00:05:41.060 maladaptive and some species can even go extinct through this sort of a famous one is the irish elk

00:05:47.460 which ended up growing horns so long it it killed them it led to their extinction they couldn't i

00:05:54.060 think like their necks would just break all the time obviously it takes an immense amount of fitness

00:06:00.820 to just grow horns that big feathers that big and to survive long enough like if you can literally

00:06:07.320 survive with those feathers with those horns a long enough to reproduce like wow you're in evolutionary

00:06:14.240 biology this is something called honest signaling and this is an important concept for because women 1.00

00:06:20.740 look for honest signaling in men too right so honest signaling and this is my background biology oh we're

00:06:25.900 getting into biology so we get into stuff that malcolm actually isn't making up so honest signaling

00:06:30.500 means that the signal of fitness bears a cost that is equal to the reaction that females have 0.94

00:06:42.480 to or males have in the case that you're you're signaling in that direction to that signal so there are some

00:06:49.180 species that will try to cheat right they will try to develop like a growl that makes them sound

00:06:57.480 bigger and tougher than they are species that develop cheating mechanisms to use within sexual selection

00:07:05.100 typically lose these mechanisms pretty quickly because the females that cannot identify them end up 1.00

00:07:10.860 breeding with lower quality males and their genes do not end up surviving yeah and so women get very good 0.93

00:07:16.940 at detecting dishonest signaling so in humans honest signaling honest peacocking would be buying a sports car

00:07:27.760 which is hurting you right because financially it's lowering your overall fitness even the overall

00:07:34.300 fitness of your family i mean the money you spent on the maserati is money that you didn't spend on food or

00:07:39.720 housing or anything and so the fact that you can survive despite having blown through all that

00:07:45.180 money for something that does no good to you shows that you are extra fit because you've just taken a

00:07:51.980 significant hit as a result and then there's there's dishonest signaling which is buying a fake maserati

00:07:58.140 and females need to be good at determining is this a honest signaling male or is this a dishonest signaling 0.99

00:08:04.840 but in normal peacocking you just dress really crazy right like you just dress in a crazy way that's

00:08:10.020 meant to get a woman's attention start conversations etc but you are actually doing a form of honest

00:08:14.760 signaling when you do that which is to one signal a degree of personal confidence not everyone can just

00:08:21.780 go to a club dress ridiculously no i don't have the balls for it absolutely i used to like develop

00:08:27.840 peacocking before it came up in the red pill i just learned that it worked and i like dressing sort of

00:08:31.460 crazy and you know and i did this in like high school and stuff and two you signal that you are

00:08:37.280 able to be social like they can see often your social status through your friends through etc despite

00:08:44.720 the social cost of the ridiculous outfit yeah we're gonna talk about why why some species peacock because 0.98

00:08:54.760 peacocking as as we've just discussed is actually quite risky it's damaging it's it's not good for you to do

00:09:01.440 right so why do why is it sometimes necessary and then we'll look at sort of a history of male and

00:09:08.240 female peacocking because i think there's this perception that women are are the the ones who 1.00

00:09:13.780 do all the signaling with the makeup and the clothing and oh look at me whereas that's not always been the

00:09:19.440 case there have been fluctuations and i i actually argue that that we are a rare species in which

00:09:25.160 both sexes peacock but in sort of weird lumpy different ways and i i would love to sort of

00:09:31.340 hear your thoughts on why and how that is and i also have some just points that you can use to to as a

00:09:36.720 sounding board for your own thoughts and analysis mel i i by the way i love that you went into this is a

00:09:42.440 very very interesting topic to me and i think it is rife for theory theorizing theory crafting and

00:09:49.520 better understanding human behavior well and also the good strategic peacocking is so contingent on a

00:09:55.940 variety of factors within your unique society economy time technology etc and so really there is

00:10:03.840 no universal rule you have to understand the dynamics and the power of it and so that's why i think this

00:10:09.400 is an important episode why i want to divide this into two categories because i think peacocking

00:10:14.080 doesn't do this well because let's let's let's retie it to the biology honest signaling and dishonest 0.99

00:10:19.600 signaling because if if you if you're like yeah but everything i'm going to be discussing is honest

00:10:25.160 signaling so let's just focus on that what people really want to learn how to do is dishonest signaling

00:10:31.080 but what you want to point out which i think is interesting is when we're going to go through in

00:10:35.540 the history of peacocking how as soon as dishonest signaling has been figured out by a group the

00:10:40.460 honest signalers choose a different signal that that's exactly it okay continue i think that's

00:10:45.460 great it almost doesn't matter i mean unless you you discover what it is and you're the first in

00:10:50.420 until the bubble bursts essentially like you can cheat until everyone realizes there's the cheat code

00:10:56.520 and then it won't work anymore so you just have to understand that it's a limited time opportunity

00:10:59.940 but why okay why do why do species peacock basically peacocking is required when the target market is 0.95

00:11:07.320 selective and this is just obvious like the the only reason why products have brands that are flashy

00:11:12.880 and attractive is because there's a competitive market with choices if there were just bread like we

00:11:18.760 had one option bread like there wouldn't be brands there wouldn't be differentiation and there

00:11:23.640 wouldn't be a reason to show off one brand versus another brand exactly yeah so female peacocking 1.00

00:11:30.020 is necessary only when men get sexually selective and and vice versa there are three reasons why males get

00:11:38.260 sexually selective the first is that males it they they are sexually selective when they invest heavily

00:11:45.540 in parental care so if there's time or energy or risk and they can or they can only mate with a

00:11:51.640 limited number of females suddenly they are selective whereas normally male species male members of any 0.88

00:11:58.620 species it's more spray and pray you know you're just going to have sex with anything that moves 0.84

00:12:03.200 and just hope for the best because there's sort of no risk to you so it is it is relatively unusual

00:12:08.780 and when it does happen suddenly you care about who you're sticking it in so for example male seahorses

00:12:14.800 who carry and nourish the eggs in a brood and and like they have little brood pouches they get like

00:12:19.660 they look preggers it's i think it's one of the few only maybe the only male form of pregnancy

00:12:24.260 they're very very choosy about mates and these days i think men have become more choosy in their mates

00:12:31.980 because they invest more today in child rearing like american men at least than they have before

00:12:37.840 married father's child care time rose from about 2.6 hours per week in 1965 to about 7.2 hours per week

00:12:44.620 in 2011 and then 7.8 to 8 hours per week in 2020 to 2021 so it's only going up and that is going to

00:12:51.920 lead to more selectiveness with the partner choice so that the second reason why there's why a male

00:12:59.440 would be selective is that there's large variation in female quality for example there may be a lot of 1.00

00:13:05.540 variation in the species fecundity among females or size or health which makes some females a lot 1.00

00:13:12.860 more valuable than others so to go back to seal horses uh seal horses seahorses male seahorses

00:13:19.740 preferentially select larger females because they tend to produce more or higher quality eggs which

00:13:25.860 i didn't know but the bigger ones are better with eggs and this leads to obviously better

00:13:30.760 like chubby chasers they are they are they're the og chubby chasers and then they've been they've been

00:13:37.520 observed actively rejecting smaller seahorses just turning them away male seahorses because they have to

00:13:44.660 carry the eggs will reject females because they are the gatekeepers of sexuality in seahorses 1.00

00:13:50.860 exactly and they're like i'm not going to spend my time on on some small seahorse for like just a few

00:13:56.080 eggs like this is i'm going through this i'm going to be careful about it no i i think that you're

00:14:01.420 getting to a point here that i think our audience would like delineated which is in humans females are

00:14:08.580 the gatekeepers for casual sex and males are the gatekeepers for long-term relationships and with

00:14:16.840 that being the case the ways that both parties dress and act when interacting in each of these

00:14:23.340 contexts is going to be different i also think that it's just interesting just an observation i don't know

00:14:30.060 if this is is is is really good as a comparison but i love looking at old archival footage be it

00:14:38.080 recolorized or not a lot of it's resurfacing now because people are using ai to remaster it it just

00:14:42.940 looks amazing to see what the streets were like in some random city and you know a the early 1900s or

00:14:49.840 what have you what i find to be so notable is that everyone looks so neat and tidy you know people look

00:14:55.040 quite healthy on average probably because a lot of people thought like if you were sick you just

00:15:00.060 you died now there is actually quite a lot of variation in female quality among humans and i think

00:15:09.740 even in recent years this has gotten worse i remember when you and i went to what is it called

00:15:15.140 the spring dip or something at saint andrews which is this event where it dawned a lot of people in this

00:15:21.060 this university in scotland go run into the ocean take off varying degrees of their clothing and run

00:15:27.420 into the ocean and and in winter or early spring so so and we noticed how much more gross looking

00:15:35.000 and not just in terms of obese but like morphologically gross looking the females were 1.00

00:15:39.800 than when i went to school there yeah i was i i was like actually like would not with most of these

00:15:45.720 people and yet i'm like an older guy now whatever and so greater male selectiveness again so i just

00:15:50.940 that that anecdote i also think i want to delineate a point here that i think is guys remember how

00:15:56.960 you made the point that the the partner who is the gatekeeper is unlikely to attempt to peacock

00:16:05.320 um sales when you are out searching for a long-term partner very rarely peacock even if they are

00:16:13.620 familiar with the concept in fact oh yeah take heed women yeah yeah when males who have lots of wealth 1.00

00:16:21.260 date they frequently attempt date specifically for marriage they attempt to hide how much wealth they

00:16:29.140 have whereas when they date for casual sex they boast peacock and flaunt sometimes even wealth they do

00:16:36.620 not have continue that's it yeah and and that was a there was a recent like social media thing that i

00:16:41.560 talked with you about on another podcast where men were posting about hiding their wealth on on initial

00:16:47.080 dates and asking to go dutch with the women they were dating to see if they you know were hoping just

00:16:53.140 to be taken care of or if they were interested in them for being them yeah so there's the other

00:16:58.920 big thing i think when it comes to fertility and and basically the the new version of fecundity for 1.00

00:17:05.000 women which is their willingness at all to have kids but beyond that also the marriage of bait and switch 1.00

00:17:10.700 where there's a lot of women who are like yeah i'll have three kids i'll have four kids and then 1.00

00:17:16.800 they have two kids and they're like i'm done i don't want to do anymore and men are who want to have

00:17:21.000 big families especially i think are very much in a vulnerable position and at risk and they need to

00:17:26.020 be extremely selective about who they marry because even if you find a woman who wants to have kids 0.98

00:17:31.420 and we know from emails and and messages from our fans who are young men looking to get married who

00:17:37.020 want to have families it's really hard to find a young woman who's even willing to think about 1.00

00:17:41.980 family at a young age which is so i mean like let alone at a still fertile age they start to think

00:17:48.160 about family when they hit their third the mid-30s yeah but it's too late then you know yeah yeah but i

00:17:53.840 mean this this isn't you know just a human thing and in many fish and bird species with biparental care

00:17:58.880 when both both members of a of a pairing take care of the young males court inmate preferentially with

00:18:05.920 larger or more fecund females and ignore smaller otherwise low quality looking ones because they're 1.00

00:18:11.460 like i'm i if i have to hitch myself to a wagon i want the wagon that's going to produce a lot of

00:18:15.940 kids and i think men are becoming more selective now because they know they can't necessarily trust

00:18:21.060 every woman whether or not she physically have the capacity to have kids to be actually willing to 1.00

00:18:27.720 have kids so i'm wondering if men will eventually start to look for signals of commitment to larger

00:18:32.920 families like genuine commitment well yeah anyway this is this is fascinating if you think about how

00:18:38.240 culture has shifted in america if you go back to when the purpose of relationships was marriage

00:18:46.160 you know let's say like the 1950s or something like that men peacocked or showed off with their outfits

00:18:52.320 less than women did the woman was the one more likely to show off with the way she dressed and acted 1.00

00:18:58.220 than the man was yeah and that was because the men were the gatekeepers when marriage is the point of

00:19:04.860 a relationship then the the third reason why a male may be the selective one is is when mating itself

00:19:13.340 is very costly to them like there's greater risk of predation or energy loss or disease or increased

00:19:20.080 risk from male-on-male competition you know like well if i try to have sex with this gorilla the alpha male 0.84

00:19:25.380 is going to kill me that kind of thing you know that mating indiscriminately will actually reduce

00:19:30.360 the male's total lifetime reproduction success and i am also thinking oh my god like this is absolutely

00:19:36.900 the case for men because one there's the legal risk this is one major form of modern predation

00:19:42.380 where you know let's say that you marry young and then you think you're going to have kids with

00:19:46.720 this woman but then she divorces you and then it costs you a ton of money and a ton of time 0.99

00:19:51.360 like you're living the lifetime number of kids you're going to have is absolutely reduced so that

00:19:56.760 is huge also financial risk that that's a major form of energy loss if we want to talk about energy

00:20:02.300 loss you know peacocks like you were saying that you know the example of someone getting a really fancy

00:20:06.400 car that's just the new form of of energy you know it's is money and then i also do feel too like

00:20:14.260 there there's we we talked about this in our male-on-male romance obsession that some women have the 0.98

00:20:20.180 yaoi obsession how maybe women are really into male-male romance because men are able to feel

00:20:25.240 some kind of pair bonding or true love that women just don't feel experience and so part of me wonders

00:20:31.400 too if men are actually rendered more vulnerable from marriage than women are and i think both you and i

00:20:39.220 have seen our fathers be more romantically attached to their wives than our mothers were attached

00:20:50.160 to them i yeah i think i think men are generally especially in long-term marriages from what i've

00:20:56.120 seen more romantically attached than women are yeah when women are like oh i'm so lucky i got a romantic 0.99

00:21:01.920 guy and it's like no most guys are romantics that is just the way that they're programmed but the flip

00:21:08.200 side of that is vulnerability and and that's the thing that scared me the most about falling in love

00:21:12.380 with you was like i discovered this whole new way that someone could hurt me i mean i don't really care

00:21:18.200 if someone hurts me but if someone hurts you my god i can't you know like i it's it's scary so i

00:21:24.160 also see that as a another source of of of danger and vulnerability that many men may be instinctually

00:21:30.680 trying to avoid and therefore they're being more selective so again women have to peacock more because 1.00

00:21:36.320 men are like i don't know if i want to commit to you because these days women kind of screw men over 1.00

00:21:41.020 like you're going to break my heart and i don't want to risk that so basically the tldr with with the

00:21:45.760 sort of the the incentives behind peacocking so long as men have choices and are either made more

00:21:53.240 vulnerable by partnering with women or they're more involved in their relationships with women

00:21:58.340 typically through child care they're going to be selective but so long as women are also subject to 0.95

00:22:03.840 these same risks and obligations and women are of course rendered vulnerable by having kids and by

00:22:08.840 getting in relationships they'll also be choosy and so what we have is a world and i think a rare

00:22:14.980 biological scenario or like species-based scenario in which both sex is peacock and then who peacocks

00:22:21.740 more is a product of a broad variety of really interesting social and economic factors and the

00:22:29.240 way in which the peacocking is done across genders is also really interesting so i thought we could get

00:22:34.040 into the history a little bit because we're talking about that briefly this morning and it is fun but

00:22:39.200 basically neither men nor women have stopped peacocking it's it's just the means of peacocking

00:22:45.620 for each sex have evolved over time and when you see restrained male dress it's typically attributed

00:22:52.500 to peacocking through cultural signaling not through a lack of peacocking so globally speaking even if we're

00:22:59.120 talking because i'm going to mostly focus in on western and european examples because that's the fashion

00:23:04.340 history i know best but many asian and african traditions start from a baseline where both

00:23:10.340 genders can be very richly dressed or even sort of based in the same general garment like a kimono

00:23:16.100 style garment or a robe style garment and then both would be very richly dressed both both sexes in

00:23:22.860 ritual or elite contexts there wasn't this very strong distinction in ornament and then what is really

00:23:30.600 interesting is different cultural trends across these different geographical regions or ethnicities

00:23:38.340 led to for whatever reason men specifically and i wonder if this is because they're patriarchal societies

00:23:44.900 and men are the ones who are involved in culture and therefore they're subject more to cultural trends

00:23:49.200 i'm just not sure but it is cultural trends that have led them to align male public dress more with

00:23:57.900 restraint and practicality which is really interesting because this is not typically what you see you know

00:24:04.160 with like you know ducks right male ducks are the pretty ducks male peacocks are the pretty ones

00:24:08.000 so specifically in china it was confucian ideology which led to that streamlined look in japan it was

00:24:14.800 the samurai like sort of aesthetic that led to this more simplified disciplined look stoicism or forms of

00:24:22.220 stoicism stoicism i'm going to argue because i mean bo bremmel which i think you mentioned this who you

00:24:29.320 mentioned this morning was a major pioneer in the very streamlined look it didn't actually have to do

00:24:35.440 that much with that he was he was not a stoic he like died a pauper from gambling debts this is not a stoic

00:24:42.160 guy or like someone who held back and we can talk about that but in general it's that or at least it's

00:24:49.720 societal trends that have led men to peacock in a different way but there's more to it than just

00:24:55.400 that but let's talk about europe before the 1800s before there was this renunciation of flamboyance

00:25:00.660 essentially in fashion for men because there's some hilarious examples that i'm sure you'll be very

00:25:05.180 familiar with like of course famously in in tudor england there was the codpiece which was a an

00:25:12.480 exclusively male form of you could argue peacocking which was also like directly tied to male dimorphism

00:25:23.560 but also sexual prowess because a codpiece was for those of you unfamiliar with it a little part that

00:25:29.900 went over your your as our children call them whippies your dongle your of like armor outfits yeah and

00:25:37.940 i think i can't remember what museum it's in it might be it it's it's in one of the famous royal

00:25:44.440 like maybe it's the tower of london you can see the various costume pieces or you know like

00:25:49.780 court dress and also armor of king henry the eighth i think it's his armor and what's really interesting

00:25:55.360 is is they have pieces of his armor from different periods in his life and as he gets older he not

00:26:01.500 only gets fatter but his cod pieces just get larger and larger and you see these like erections that just

00:26:07.160 like i think these men are walking around with these massive basically massive boners

00:26:13.300 metal erections like on their armor i mean this was on their armor but like also just in normal

00:26:19.020 everyday wear they were they were and they you know they were embroidered you know they're very

00:26:23.480 they're very nice you know it's like like men today wear rolexes back then they had very fancy

00:26:30.280 of course rich fabrics but you know these cod pieces so that's that's one example of dishonest

00:26:35.000 signaling by the way very easy to face yeah i mean i don't actually think when i remember when

00:26:41.480 looking at the armor when you were i when you and i were in london looking at that exhibit i was like

00:26:46.540 man he's compensating like but no i actually think it had more to just do with exaggerated fashion and

00:26:52.320 how fashion kind of iterates and becomes more extreme over time i don't think he was actually trying

00:26:57.200 to insinuate that that his dongle had grown that much here's here's what i suspect happened in

00:27:04.560 henry the eighth's cards okay some people started wearing cod pieces that like explicitly looked

00:27:09.940 like members and then imagine you show up at a party and that's now normalized but another guest

00:27:16.280 has one that's larger than yours oh god yeah and yours is small and with like what yeah yeah i guess

00:27:21.500 and now you're like i gotta get a larger one made i can't be the small one at the party

00:27:26.380 because i've explicitly made the reference here right yeah and i'm i'm actually pretty sure you

00:27:32.900 don't want to be the one who accidentally walks in with a larger con piece than king henry the eighth

00:27:38.620 oh yeah i'm sure yeah there must have been whisper networks on like

00:27:41.760 what is the size of of his majesty's con piece we must know but anyway like there there were all

00:27:48.120 it got much more interesting in terms of uniquely male styles that were that were flourishes that

00:27:55.140 were very visually distinct in the baroque and rococo periods in europe this was the era of the

00:28:01.520 sun king this was it was just so fun it was so flamboyant and men were so pretty and we had for

00:28:08.140 example high heels the famous red-soled shoes that were worn in the french court which which now you

00:28:16.260 know been sort of well now the pope wears them right does he well did you know though that actually

00:28:21.920 for roughly two popes ago the first 700 years of high heeled shoes experience they were only for men 0.89

00:28:28.040 and do you know why why think about cowboys writing think about cowboy yes exactly yeah they were they

00:28:36.400 were for warfare and this was specifically that it came from persia modern day iran rest in peace

00:28:45.100 it was it was a functional tool for the persian cavalry who were famous for their skills as horse

00:28:51.060 mounted archers but what do you have to do as a horse mounted archer you have to both ride and not

00:28:57.140 have your hands on the horse so you need feet that can really securely sit in stirrups as you're

00:29:03.480 riding that means you're not just sitting in stirrups you need to have you the ability to stand in stirrups

00:29:08.200 with a lot of control and that is where that the heel allows your foot to lock in to the stirrups

00:29:15.100 and when there was i think there was oh yeah in 1599 the persian shah sent a diplomatic mission to

00:29:22.680 europe in the high heel boots that were worn by the persian soldiers just caused this massive fashion

00:29:28.280 craze like oh these are so cool but why why obviously they they were associated with these

00:29:36.480 badass warriors so one it was just very masculine to wear heels but two you got the height that's a 0.89

00:29:44.880 really big thing in fact i'm gonna say you have to look at these there's this whole thing in china

00:29:52.040 where young men wear risers on their really yeah watch these videos don't trust the height of chinese 1.00

00:30:02.120 men because most of them use special tricks to make themselves look taller they use super shoes that

00:30:07.100 can add 20 centimeters to their height because in china short men will difficulty to getting a

00:30:11.140 girlfriend yeah and they can make you significantly tall and they're actually the shoes that these men

00:30:15.960 are designed quite well to obscure just how thick they are and there's this really funny short that

00:30:23.140 shows men waiting in line for a roller coaster or some kind of ride that has a height requirement

00:30:28.780 and sadly the right operators have have grown wise to the fact that risers are endemic and tragically

00:30:36.580 you have these teenage boys who are asked to remove their shoes to get on the ride to to measure

00:30:43.180 many chinese are self-conscious about their height and need high shoes to enter the attraction but at

00:30:50.080 the entrance they are asked to take off their shoes as soon as they do it turns out that their height is

00:30:55.340 significantly reduced because of this complex in china even teenagers often wear platform sneakers to 0.55

00:31:01.840 look taller but these guys couldn't hide their real height and now that everyone could see that they

00:31:06.640 weren't as tall as they seemed they were embarrassed wear new rock boots as a kid and they made me

00:31:12.980 so effing tall compared to other guys and i bet it made you feel good i bet it right goth boots right

00:31:19.020 oh i loved it i love it they were my go-to footwear for the longest time what's so embarrassing for

00:31:24.600 these boys who are going on the roller coaster in china is they're you know with their girlfriends who

00:31:30.160 are laughing their butts off as they take off their shoes and like lo and behold they're like a foot

00:31:35.480 shorter they're like this is like asking a girl before she gets on a ride take out your stuffing 0.97

00:31:39.720 like yeah take off your cut yeah take out your cutlets take out your like oh my god how embarrassing 0.67

00:31:45.480 and it's funny that we are talking about all this while we're redesigning my outfit

00:31:49.660 i'll describe her back from the etsy seller about the because i decided that i should dress in more

00:31:53.760 medieval inspired outfits the same way simone does because it looks weird that only she's doing it now

00:31:58.560 and we pointed out in one of the videos that like it actually while a lot of cultures only have women 1.00

00:32:04.120 dress in a unique fashion it's better when they both do like an orthodox jewish culture yeah so we should 1.00

00:32:09.620 make up like a unique so what do you think of this vest simone is this they they said that they

00:32:14.180 could do it in this this red color or is that not right enough i like it no i like it that's like

00:32:18.860 it's a deep burgundy and it's good it's similar to my stays that i'm wearing it's a little more wine

00:32:23.540 yeah but yeah it's it's good in fact actually can you see the tearing on this

00:32:28.640 oh no not at all okay well this i'm literally wearing this these stays to shreds and this is actually

00:32:35.540 part of a larger historical fashion misknower a lot of people when they go to costumes to

00:32:40.240 institutes and museums and they see historical outfits they think that people in the past were

00:32:46.480 super super small and yeah they were a little bit shorter but there are tons of historical examples of

00:32:52.280 men who are six plus feet you know like people weren't that much tinier there's some malnutrition

00:32:56.860 the reason why people often misattribute historical people to being very small is because the few

00:33:04.840 surviving clothes that existed belonged to children because the children grew out of them before they

00:33:09.600 could be worn to shreds and so the these beautifully preserved costumes and court dress and everything

00:33:14.800 that people have were children's clothes and so people see them and they're like this looks like a

00:33:19.640 child well that's because it is because it was a it was a child's dress it was a little

00:33:23.840 a little boy's outfit you know and they don't realize that they think it belonged to an adult

00:33:28.360 because you know they're very nice or whatever and then they think that people were small

00:33:32.240 and like i'm realizing like with clothes like these they do you do just wear them to shreds because

00:33:36.900 they're good you wear them every day and when you wear them like people historically wore clothes like

00:33:40.440 that they would just even like even if you didn't wear the same style of a dress you would reuse the

00:33:46.380 fabric and so the fabric is is being worn to shreds and being passed down like first the lady of the house 0.99

00:33:51.660 would wear it and once she couldn't reuse the fabric enough like it stopped looking good she'd pass it

00:33:56.660 down to a servant and then the servant wouldn't wear different like threads and then someone below that 0.99

00:34:00.240 and that's why we don't have that many historical adults outfits anymore because it was just

00:34:05.720 devastated anyway also just the impracticality of heels was something that both for men and women

00:34:12.480 eventually became very very useful as a costly signal right like if you can afford to walk around

00:34:18.240 with heels because the heels evolved fashion wise to become to have much finer points there's no way

00:34:24.000 you could walk around on cobblestone streets or muddy streets or on lawns with them so it just meant

00:34:28.100 that you could afford to not walk anywhere and then eventually the red heel of king louis the 14th

00:34:33.220 was one subject to sumptuary laws so literally you couldn't wear that type of shoe unless you were a

00:34:38.940 fancy person so it was a really big deal in that sense there were also powder gray wigs which were

00:34:44.220 were worn both by men and women but men wore them too silk and lace and all the ruffled cravats and

00:34:49.360 stuff there was just very very very expensive to make and men would wear it because it would show 0.99

00:34:53.700 that they had wealth it was just a way to signal wealth which even by that point in history became

00:34:58.920 of course a big proxy for fitness if you could afford to feed your family or give them shelter if

00:35:03.580 you have the money to do all that your kids are more likely to survive and you probably were going

00:35:06.940 to have more on average so around the 1800s in europe is when men's fashion turned towards simplistic

00:35:12.200 and it wasn't just because beau brummel this man who lived in england who was friends with prince

00:35:18.680 regent and therefore very socially influential until he fell out of favor was so famous and and

00:35:25.760 influential as a fashion icon because he was really the one who popularized the fashion that has now

00:35:30.720 evolved into the modern men's suit things went away from these frilly fancy late 1700s costumes which

00:35:38.320 really much more resembled women's dresses just they were slightly you know malified to the modern suit

00:35:45.920 the precursor to the modern suit it wasn't just him it was also the french revolution which really was

00:35:52.860 one of the the an early driver to stealth wealth all all these these like nobles and stuff were getting

00:35:59.480 killed and suddenly it wasn't so cool to flaunt your wealth you were like getting a little nervous just

00:36:04.460 subconsciously of signaling your wealth to peasants and you're like you know what like i'm gonna pare

00:36:09.180 this down maybe i don't want to make them so mad because i thought i could just do this and make

00:36:13.740 everyone jealous and nothing would happen and i guess maybe maybe that's not how it works anymore so

00:36:19.860 let's just be a little more careful so that was a genuine factor another big factor was just industrial

00:36:25.480 capitalism shifting and men especially in this focus more toward actual like productivity and

00:36:31.980 competence and utility suddenly we were able to do things at scale there's this whole new world of

00:36:37.560 productivity that's opened up by technology and automation and industrialization there's also the

00:36:42.340 rise of the enlightenment which really made it cooler to be rational and useful rather than decorative

00:36:47.860 yeah and then we're the ones involved in that primarily and so they also got caught up in that

00:36:52.920 and then there was furthermore and this is very important back to your point of false signals

00:36:57.360 the democratization by the industrial revolution largely of textiles such that fancy textiles just

00:37:03.360 weren't the expensive thing they used to be and so you you didn't really you know a rich brocade it

00:37:11.120 wasn't the same anymore lace could be more automatically made so we didn't need to wear the frilly lace stuff

00:37:17.120 and we didn't need to wear all this no like suddenly it was you had to see you had to find new ways to

00:37:23.120 signal wealth and a bunch of poor people were now wearing the fancy looking stuff so you don't want to

00:37:26.860 wear that because that's poor person stuff no and so that that was a big thing though brummel really

00:37:31.520 actually didn't very much represent this what was the word like oh stoic approach well it was a very

00:37:39.900 streamlined look literally he would have people watch him get dressed regularly and it would take

00:37:46.280 him like two hours of multiple hours maybe more than two hours just to freaking get dressed and he

00:37:51.480 would just fuss with his cravat and it was impossible to perfectly tie your cravat and all these things

00:37:56.500 so no it really wasn't it wasn't a disciplined efficient man's way of getting dressed he was

00:38:03.940 very much a dandy even though he didn't dress like dandies and and and macaronis as as they were known

00:38:10.260 in various periods so basically like he he followed this period in which there were well he was a dandy

00:38:17.040 I guess in which the the the fancy fashion men dressed really insanely like very over the top in in terms

00:38:25.160 of their ornamentation and that's where the song yankee doodle comes from which is kind of making

00:38:30.220 fun of the concept of the dandy yankee went to town put a feather in his cap and called it macaroni

00:38:35.640 they're just making fun of this man who's like well there's a style of macaroni which is a style of the

00:38:42.760 period that was very effeminate and very like over the top yeah but it's it's just quaint that a man

00:38:47.100 would think that he could just put a feather in his cap and yeah but but basically the idea was

00:38:50.600 anything slightly over the top was being macaroni so yeah so the thing is I actually feel like maybe

00:38:57.480 things are changing now in terms of men trying to signal through their utility and logic because

00:39:05.120 there are several male trends focused around costly signals that are are notable and very noticeable

00:39:14.880 and they're doing this more so than I think women are at this point we've sort of gone past 0.97

00:39:20.060 sort of peak women insanity in terms of investing in looks the fillers are over the bbls are over 1.00

00:39:26.020 there's there's less signaling and now we're seeing more at least in terms of media coverage and social

00:39:31.300 media trending stuff that that's in favor of men so what we have looks maxing I mean you talk about

00:39:36.620 like cutlets you know like women taking fillers out of their bras we have clavicular who's probably right 1.00

00:39:45.720 now the public face of looks maxing online famously slapping those very same cutlets that women use 1.00

00:39:52.100 in their bras on his shoulders to give that more muscular look um interesting yeah so we have yeah

00:40:00.340 clavicular is most famous I mean among other things like just literally using meth to like focus or

00:40:09.860 something like extreme dieting a lot of cosmetic procedures but also most famously just for hammering

00:40:15.960 his face just hammering his face because why not to do that and and ironically it's so funny he just

00:40:21.520 ends up looking a lot like and he I think he looks pretty good he looks weirdly like a family member of

00:40:26.860 Falcum's but then there's not just this it's uncanny there's not just this we do have the similar

00:40:33.820 morphologies which is funny because she means like if you go around my family they all sort of look

00:40:38.880 like this so there's this look when I pass somebody I'm like are we related yeah it's funny if it's

00:40:45.520 worked for him though no it worked no if you look at before and afters he looks good now no no but I

00:40:51.740 mean like is he is he married no no but he's like a kid oh it's like 23 years old or something like he

00:40:58.900 doesn't know anything he's and also I mean like but I I don't imagine his regimen is really helping

00:41:04.400 him think straight yeah he's only 20 years old yeah so let's see he he's very young give him time

00:41:10.200 okay that is that is shockingly young yeah yeah yeah so I mean good for him you know in terms of

00:41:15.560 what he's done so far and then maybe he'll oh my god I look at the old pictures of him I can see why

00:41:19.820 he may have hit his face with a hammer right I mean listen I actually I have an immense amount of

00:41:26.100 respect for looks maxers so there's there's both like very public I would say we'll say this the 0.97

00:41:31.180 the public social media influencer autist looks maxer who's just very open about it and happy to

00:41:36.980 talk about it and it's a game for them you know it's it's not it's not dysphoria about the way they

00:41:41.600 look it's euphoria in the excitement of knowing that by mewling and and hammering your face and

00:41:47.560 doing all these different procedures and and using all these different supplements you can shape your

00:41:52.300 body you can take ownership of your appearance there's also the more stealth ones and one example

00:41:58.540 in this that you can see is in in the height surgery is is trending upward I'm going to send

00:42:04.720 you oh my god whenever I see height surgery I just think of gadiga and I'm like no no no his profile says

00:42:11.420 he's 6'1 so I can wear lifts even with lifts you're not that tall

00:42:19.340 Jerome never questioned my commitment again huh because the height surgery in gadiga where he has

00:42:28.660 to get a few inches at it and you they've got to break your your bones to oh he doesn't I forgot that

00:42:34.660 it's just such a depressing movie it's it's just like and and he's obviously I've talked about this

00:42:42.020 in other episodes he's obviously the villain of the movie like the main character if we had an

00:42:47.580 astronaut who on like a multi-billion and I think the move trillion dollar mission yeah about their

00:42:52.980 health their heart health like a fake heart meter crucial mission to space yeah we'd be like wait so

00:43:00.300 he puts everyone else on the mission's life at risk over a real heart condition yeah he actually

00:43:06.700 has out of this weird like genes aren't real even though we know that that's why he has the heart

00:43:12.920 condition yeah but anyway this I just sent you the google trends for the that that leg lengthening 0.96

00:43:19.880 surgery which is what when people are looking up height surgery it is absolutely trending up in fact in a

00:43:25.680 recent much discussed movie called the materialists that came out which is about a new york-based female

00:43:31.580 matchmaker one of her two main love interests in the movie himself got um leg lengthening surgery 0.98

00:43:39.260 and was very wealthy this cost between 75 and 250 thousand dollars it's very expensive you have to be

00:43:44.960 wealthy to do it so again even in that it's a costly signal but then it's a costly signal to do the signal

00:43:50.240 of looking tall which is also a false signal which I think is very interesting it's this very confusing

00:43:54.600 kind of what what is it it's both a a false signal and a costly signal so I guess it balances out

00:43:59.600 but there's a scene in the movie it's just a false signal I mean it's costly in that it costs a lot

00:44:03.840 of money yeah but if you can afford to do it doesn't that kind of balance out yeah I guess and be bedridden

00:44:08.700 for the period and blah blah blah if you can afford to do it then they're clearly you've some

00:44:13.980 advantage you're a privileged person either shoe inserts man like come on well but what about when

00:44:20.940 you are on a roller coaster growing you're not wearing any clothes when you take someone home

00:44:27.400 notices then I'm just saying the global market was valued of leg lengthening surgery valued at one

00:44:36.000 four point one to four point one eight billion from 21 to 23 and then it's projected to reach

00:44:42.080 eight point three to eight point six billion by the 2030s like or 2030 2031 so this is a growing it like

00:44:49.120 if you want to invest in a surgical center jesus invest in this very painful very yeah excruciating

00:44:57.180 recovery process this is body dysmorphia right here come on well yeah or I mean I there there

00:45:04.920 are there we know people who plan on if they if they can afford to get this procedure and I I say

00:45:10.440 power to the people I mean I guess I can't understand right like I wasn't yeah you're born sufficiently

00:45:15.960 like taller than average so whatever you know don't do it like you have some privilege right

00:45:22.520 genetic legacy right then right I mean you you use naltruxone to experience a state that I experience

00:45:28.320 every day I don't like act like oh you shouldn't take naltruxone like no you should do it because you

00:45:33.920 can be more efficient that way anyway I I do think and and there's this scene in the movie where the

00:45:39.980 there are two matchmakers who are like yeah that's absolutely a worthwhile surgery because women just 1.00

00:45:46.240 won't consider men under a certain height like it's a logical choice to make yeah can we please not

00:45:51.560 worry about a couple inches right now because you're about to die alone there's a surgery for

00:45:56.740 that you break your legs and extend it it's definitely worth the investment and you can get

00:46:05.880 around this when a kid's growing if you give it to them at the right time human growth hormone and

00:46:09.780 then of course you have to consider that in in Asia ton of men have pretty elaborate beauty routines

00:46:15.120 makeup routines if not cosmetic surgery procedures that are super common and then on the other side of

00:46:20.980 it like you could say that oh well this is all very effete but then you have to look at the like

00:46:25.240 bronze age mindset slash man's world bodybuilder aesthetic thing that's going on right but that's

00:46:32.140 intersexual signaling women don't actually want that no they don't but it it is still I feel like 0.99

00:46:38.900 the instinct to signal comes from something like a feel that you need to be chosen among a choosy

00:46:45.500 populace and and and I think that it's misguided but I do think a lot of men that get into

00:46:50.040 bodybuilding think that women are gonna like it I think a lot of women who are really into makeup 0.99

00:46:55.700 think that it actually attracts men even though they're they're using literally makeup application

00:47:02.620 methods that were pioneered by drag queens so whatever but I just I think it's very interesting and I think

00:47:14.360 we just have to remember when we engage in these these acts of signaling that one this this is you

00:47:22.400 acknowledging that when you're the choosy one it's because you are the one bringing the value to the table

00:47:32.000 when you're signaling you're trying to attract someone who you're going to use um and we should just be

00:47:39.440 aware of that that's the dance and if you are choosing to date someone who is clearly signaling

00:47:45.980 the tacit understanding between you needs to be that they're going to use you if you're and this

00:47:54.080 is the back this is why I I mean I think sane guys understand this is why sane guys when they're

00:47:59.240 looking for a wife they do not date girls who wear lots of makeup they do not date girls who wear 0.99

00:48:03.040 expensive clothing because when I see that I'm like oh this is no she's telling me she expects

00:48:09.360 me to buy this stuff for her yeah and and yeah that that's going to be the expectation that the

00:48:15.840 expectation is that you're going to be a provider and that she has you know a ton of choices and if

00:48:19.800 you won't be the provider she'll probably leave you and that you are made vulnerable by this choice

00:48:23.440 and and and also if you see that you're at a point in some society or in some subculture because

00:48:29.040 this is going to be different across all societies and there are various periods about history and if

00:48:32.860 you alluded to this like in the 1950s where it appears to be that one sex is signaling more

00:48:37.360 than another you need to be aware of what side of the equation you're on and the social contract

00:48:42.820 you're getting into as a result that oh if you appear to to if everyone's trying to market to you

00:48:49.120 you need to be a lot more careful about your choices because they're they're after something that

00:48:56.860 you have and you're committing to maybe more than you you might expect and here's the final point I

00:49:03.740 wanted to make because guys can be like well even with all of this you know you say that I the male

00:49:07.920 am the chooser in the long-term relationship marketplace so why aren't I finding options on

00:49:14.560 this marketplace and the answer is that many modern women modern audience modern women have decided to not

00:49:22.220 even play in a marketplace where they don't have a structural advantage and so they don't even enter

00:49:29.860 the long-term relationship marketplace meaning there's such a dearth of women within it at least in terms 1.00

00:49:36.580 of of getting the type of partner they have come to believe they think they deserve because of the

00:49:41.420 advantage they've had on the sexual marketplace not realizing that all they've really done is burn part of

00:49:46.600 their own value on the marriage marketplace you're even engaging in the sexual marketplace

00:49:50.400 absolutely yeah yeah all right well I love you Simone I love you too you are a spectacular wife

00:49:58.760 that's a really clever episode I like that well thanks for helping me explaining the context

00:50:04.400 good concept because I just it's it's it's complicated and and it's it's extra complicated today

00:50:10.620 and with humans because I couldn't find examples of other species where both are engaging in in costly

00:50:18.940 signaling in forms of peacocking normally it's just one it's just one and just one more reason why

00:50:26.700 we're so boned is usually a species it's either like monogamous or you know sleeps around a lot you

00:50:34.580 don't often get bimodal relationship strategies within one species or or the females are owned by 1.00

00:50:42.420 one male you know you'll you'll see those in like chimps or something like this and we can go over 0.97

00:50:45.580 cross but but but we there's like multiple relationship and sexual strategies being implemented 0.98

00:50:51.240 within humanity at the same time but one of those strategies which is going to be bred out of the

00:50:55.620 population is purely masturbatory the one that is downstream of arousal because these women rarely end up 1.00

00:51:00.960 actually conceiving and carrying your child right so the the whole thing is just masturbation with 0.67

00:51:06.140 another person right uh and you know more moral downsides yeah it's you know I I think for this

00:51:12.980 younger generation it's easier to understand why that's a bad thing if you frame it as being what it

00:51:17.940 actually is yeah uh and I think that you see you know this wider thing that you're talking about

00:51:24.040 you see for example in context where people know that the relationship that they are dating for

00:51:30.700 is gated by the males um like they because it will almost certainly you know you are dating for a

00:51:38.000 long-term relationship an example of this would be mormon dating for example yeah yeah yeah you know

00:51:44.000 everyone knows the goal is marriage yeah the women peacock more than the men in those scenarios they 1.00

00:51:50.880 they spend a lot more time oh yeah dressing up getting themselves looking nice everything like that

00:51:55.360 than the males do in those contexts yeah and this is why mormon women look so dressed up whereas I was 1.00

00:52:01.520 literally searching for somebody who wasn't doing that and I suspect a lot of women and men are doing

00:52:05.520 the same but this is because I'm coming from a different cultural context where I value you know work

00:52:10.280 ethic above all else and I didn't want to see an austerity above all else so you were literally

00:52:15.700 peacocking your austerity to me in the way that you presented yourself by the way if we have thoughts on the

00:52:22.620 medieval wear that I should get I've already ordered a number of them I think I need to do

00:52:26.680 measurements tonight because I want to send it to the companies just to make sure we get it right

00:52:29.480 I'll help you yeah I'll get my measuring tape out I used it on sea turtles when I was 13

00:52:33.680 no I'll use it on you I'll measure you like a sea turtle yeah and so we'll send them my measurements

00:52:40.120 just to make sure we get it right and I have my cool medieval wear and then people can say like

00:52:43.700 Malcolm you look ridiculous on stream but that's so many big streamers like dress like clowns and stuff

00:52:48.220 or like gothy or like I know you gotta have a lot of makeup it's distinctive we need a thing

00:52:52.900 we're techno puritans so we gotta do right I gotta I gotta have more of a distinctive look than I do

00:52:58.380 and right now it's just nerdy lesbian right and you know well you're my nerdy lesbian okay would 0.99

00:53:05.680 you mind grabbing the kids and then I'll handle I would find nothing less I'm very excited and I

00:53:10.700 love you a lot Simone you are a great partner and a very deep intellectual thinker yeah so I love you

00:53:18.580 all right bye bye bye bye bye bye bye oh okay now I have to find where to put the outline

00:53:27.300 peacock

00:53:30.340 hello Simone what are we doing for dinner tonight

00:53:39.100 because I don't know what we have I think we're going through also I'd be up for curry tonight if

00:53:44.320 we have some old curry to go through yeah I would love to make more curry for you I don't have new

00:53:49.680 I used up all the peppers we have so it would just be I can try to find mango curry though which

00:53:56.520 I think would be fine on its own or I actually you know what I have I think I have a bunch of

00:54:02.480 rendang would you like some rendang or would you like me to try to find a mango curry

00:54:06.120 what do I want let's try

00:54:10.080 let's try

00:54:10.560 ren mango

00:54:14.400 you decide

00:54:18.540 okay if you do the mango curry remember to mix in some of the

00:54:24.440 sambal olik

00:54:26.400 sambal olik and a

00:54:28.400 yeah just sambal olik for mango curry

00:54:30.400 mango curry yeah no hoisin you don't want to because the mango curry has that like rounder warm you don't want that

00:54:35.860 yeah

00:54:36.360 yeah I don't know how to I don't know how to word that but

00:54:39.840 yeah you know what I'm talking about

00:54:42.360 what

00:54:43.360 hoisin's got a little bit of a

00:54:44.360 yeah that

00:54:46.360 yeah okay

00:54:47.360 all right here we go

00:54:48.360 this clip needs a little context the kids decided they were going to try to distract me or lure me

00:54:54.320 using things like teddy bears on strings so that they could run around and steal the chips I was eating

00:55:00.320 what are you doing

00:55:24.280 what are you doing

00:55:26.280 what are you doing

00:55:30.240 what are you doing

00:55:32.240 ow

00:55:33.240 ow

00:55:34.240 ow

00:55:38.240 are you stealing

00:55:40.240 no

00:55:41.240 no

00:55:42.240 no

00:55:43.240 no

00:55:44.240 no

00:55:45.240 stop

00:55:46.240 yes

00:55:47.240 I am

00:55:48.240 stop

00:55:50.240 get out of here

00:55:56.200 get out of here

00:55:58.200 get out of here

00:56:00.200 no

00:56:01.200 me too

00:56:02.200 I'm me to serve my queen

00:56:05.200 who is your queen 0.99

00:56:07.200 Torsen

00:56:08.200 Torsen

00:56:09.200 Torsen

00:56:10.200 I'm me to serve him chips

00:56:12.200 ah

00:56:13.200 I don't think Torsen's a man what are men Octavian

00:56:16.200 are they queens

00:56:18.200 no

00:56:20.160 they're kings

00:56:21.160 so Titan is a queen

00:56:22.160 Torsen is a king

00:56:24.160 I'm me to serve the king

00:56:26.160 ah

00:56:30.160 give me a triple please

00:56:32.160 well you did ask nicely

00:56:36.160 will you please give me a triple

00:56:38.160 get out of here

00:56:39.160 will you please give me a triple

00:56:41.160 do you want me to feed you to the wendigos 1.00

00:56:44.160 the wendigos 1.00

00:56:56.120 get out of here

00:56:57.120 okay

00:56:58.120 oh no

00:57:00.120 never

00:57:01.120 never

00:57:02.120 daddy

00:57:04.080 did I miss him with you

00:57:09.080 yeah

00:57:10.080 I think the audience now knows

00:57:12.080 you need more bops

00:57:13.080 you need more bops right

00:57:15.080 you wouldn't do this if I bopped you more 0.94

00:57:17.080 or harder

00:57:18.080 yeah

00:57:19.080 so how hard do you want me to bop you

00:57:21.080 um

00:57:22.080 really hard

00:57:24.080 yeah

00:57:25.080 yeah because I was just gonna hide from you

00:57:28.080 okay get it get out

00:57:30.080 get out

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Based Camp - February 02, 2026

Peacocking： The History, Science, & Anthropology

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