Based Camp - Planned Parenthood is So Far Right Even Republicans Shouldn’t Support It

00:00:00.000 and we should probably go into that. Well, its original mission was to genetically cleanse the 0.66

00:00:03.100 United States of Black people. In 1939, Singer began the Negro Project. The mission of the

00:00:08.440 Negro Project was to put Black doctors and nurses in charge of birth control clinics 1.00

00:00:13.080 to reduce the mistrust that Black individuals had about getting sterilized. So 80% of Planned 0.95

00:00:20.100 Parenthood's abortion facilities are located in minority communities, even still. Yeah,

00:00:24.820 the one that I used to go to was, yeah. And if you look right now, abortion through Planned

00:00:30.160 Parenthood has reduced the Black population in America by 25% since abortion was legalized.

00:00:34.840 They've received $1.78 billion in taxpayer money between 2019 and 2022. Well, you know, I think a

00:00:42.980 lot of the people making these donations, I think they receive a lot of small grassroots donations

00:00:47.280 as well, believe what I believed. Remember, I grew up in these progressive communities. I attended

00:00:52.280 Planned Parenthood. My mother worked at a Planned Parenthood that, you know, I've come from,

00:00:56.760 I come from a long line of Planned Parenthood supporters. And we just thought that they were

00:01:03.180 there to support women, just to help women plan families. Right now, the Democratic National

00:01:08.520 Convention is taking place and Planned Parenthood is present offering abortion pills and vasectomies.

00:01:14.620 No, no, no, not just offering, offering for free. I want like afterwards, a thing where like

00:01:19.440 there's two Planned Parenthood guys, like driving up from the DNC, pull off their masks.

00:01:24.480 And it's like, it's like really Republican superheroes. Like, look, I can't, I know they

00:01:29.180 turn to each other. I cannot believe that just worked. We just drove up to the DNC with a

00:01:34.500 sterilization van. It said, free sterilization. And they marched their youth out there. Bang,

00:01:42.360 bang, bang, bang. 0.89

00:01:43.340 Spayed and neutered. Would you like to know more?

00:01:46.480 Hello, Simone. Today, we are going to be talking about an organization that I imagine your perspective

00:01:53.080 on has changed pretty dramatically over your political evolution. And that organization

00:01:59.260 is Planned Parenthood. And I remember the moment where like you and I had like the biggest realization

00:02:05.380 personally around Planned Parenthood was when we were trying to get pregnant.

00:02:10.720 For the first time, yeah, 2016.

00:02:13.740 You were really struggling with it. I, it was, it was hard, you know, it was like, oh my God,

00:02:18.880 how are we going to make this happen? Right. And so you coming out of Prague culture, you're like, 0.99

00:02:25.380 oh, who helps people get pregnant? Planned Parenthood, right? 0.97

00:02:28.680 Yeah. It's all about planning your parenthood.

00:02:31.320 Yeah. They're all about, you know, when you're going to have kids, when you're not going to have kids,

00:02:35.740 you know, and so we're going to go to Planned Parenthood and they're going to have like services

00:02:39.880 that will help me get pregnant, right? Yeah. Yeah.

00:02:43.720 What'd they tell you when you went to them with this?

00:02:46.320 We don't do that. Yeah. They, they told me they don't do that. They, they only really do

00:02:53.280 the, they're a unidirectional pipeline. And this even was something that was echoed in a recent

00:03:00.980 free press article on Planned Parenthood being the largest provider of testosterone in the United

00:03:07.400 States to trans female to male individuals. Before we, before we go further with this,

00:03:13.180 I want to read a little quote here. So people understand how big it is.

00:03:16.320 It's mind blowing. Here's a quote. Planned Parenthood has in less than a decade become

00:03:23.320 the country's leading provider of gender transition hormones for young adults.

00:03:26.580 According to insurance claim data in 2015, around two dozen of their clinics began offering this

00:03:32.940 service. Now it's available at nearly 450 locations. Insurance claim information provided to the free

00:03:39.140 press by the Manhattan Institute shows that there are at least 40,000 patients who went to Planned

00:03:45.600 Parenthood for this purpose last year alone, a number that has risen 10 fold since 2017 and is

00:03:52.380 continuing to rise. The largest portion, about 40% were 18 to 22 year olds. So when people are like

00:03:59.740 Planned Parenthood is like a small player in this stuff, or not a lot is happening here,

00:04:04.860 just Planned Parenthood does 40,000 gender transitions a year of young, young people, 18 to 22 year olds.

00:04:15.920 You know, this is horrifying, horrifying. Well, what's also really horrifying is, as is pointed

00:04:25.480 out at the end of this article, when one of the women being interviewed for this article who did get

00:04:31.140 assistance in transitioning from Planned Parenthood decided that it was actually really bad for her

00:04:37.240 and she wanted to go back to being female and consulted them on, okay, well, this isn't working 0.93

00:04:42.820 out. Like the, the side effects, you know, the symptoms I would, you know, they were only warned

00:04:47.500 about basically two symptoms or something. And in the two hour consultation she got before she was

00:04:52.360 given testosterone to take, which was, you know, obviously profoundly impactful on her body and

00:04:57.240 health. I think vaginal dryness and one other thing she was warned about, obviously tons more

00:05:01.940 things happened. She wanted off. She went back to them and said, Hey, this was a lot more complicated

00:05:06.220 than you said it was going to be. What do I do? They're like, we don't have a protocol for that.

00:05:09.940 I don't know. Planned Parenthood is kind of a lie. Yeah. They do the abortions and they do the 1.00

00:05:18.480 birth control, but they don't do the family planning when you actually want to have kids. 0.99

00:05:23.160 They do the transitioning out of your birth gender, but they don't help you detransition. And that's, 0.99

00:05:30.160 that's where it becomes an inherently and deeply flawed organization. Because if it did what I thought

00:05:38.380 growing up as a normal progressive did, which is aid people with the reproductive health and general

00:05:44.980 women's health, that's fantastic. And sometimes that involves quite frequently that involves birth 0.97

00:05:50.880 control. Absolutely. They helped me, for example, when I was, when I was an adolescent, choose which

00:05:57.540 birth control was going to be most effective also with acne. I loved that. That was so cool, but it was

00:06:02.540 birth control. Right. You know, it wasn't like if there were instead a fertility boosting drug that

00:06:09.120 would also help me with my acne, I doubt that they would have been the ones to help me out,

00:06:12.500 if you know what I mean. And so I mistakenly thought that they were there for general women's

00:06:17.200 health and for my wellbeing when instead they are a unidirectional sterilizing organization.

00:06:22.720 Because of course, what does testosterone do as well? Yeah. Sterilizes women. Yeah. What do the

00:06:28.340 puberty blockers do? They sterilize people. And I should note here, Planned Parenthood allows people 0.99

00:06:33.100 to get on a gender transition pathway at 18 without parental consent. That's why they see the big 1.00

00:06:39.400 flood of people at 18. Well, because in the United States, that is when you reach adulthood and you

00:06:43.920 don't need, you're no longer under the care of a guardian. Do you remember how young 18 was? Do you

00:06:48.740 remember like 18, I believe where I was in the U S that was when you could start smoking. I was like

00:06:53.660 not a fully thinking into. Well, you're not fully myelinated until your mid twenties or so. Right. 0.94

00:07:00.280 No, but I mean the things that mattered to me at that age on my day to day basis. Oh, kid things.

00:07:06.320 Yeah. Gain. Predominantly about fitting in was my peer group. Yeah. And gaining social status was in

00:07:13.160 my peer group and getting ready to get into college. That was it. Like I didn't have like a large

00:07:18.720 world perspective. Oh yeah. You're a kid. That is a very dangerous age to be. Well, and it's

00:07:24.140 wild too, but you can't drink alcohol, but you can fundamentally change your hormonal makeup in a

00:07:30.100 way that's irreversible. Yeah. Interesting as well. Planned Parenthood does not have a minimum age that

00:07:34.720 they start gender transitions. Right. They just give her consent for people under, right? One parent. 1.00

00:07:40.980 And this is really dangerous when you consider the fact that, you know, kids are going through a divorce

00:07:44.820 or something like that. And one parent can come in and then utilize that to gain control of the kid.

00:07:49.920 But I'm not going to, you know, focus too much on the trans stuff in this episode because we do that 1.00

00:07:54.160 in other episodes. I will note though, and this is something worth considering when you consider,

00:07:58.880 okay, some people who aren't really trans get sort of picked up in the trans trawl, but like,

00:08:05.760 it's not that bad. They can always just detransition or they can always just go off hormones or they can

00:08:11.140 always just be like, is it really that bad to accidentally transition someone that, that is

00:08:16.600 confused. Right. And we know now, you know, if you're looking at the 13 to 23 age range, nine out

00:08:22.140 of 10, based on the study that was done, I believe in 2023 of people who are discontent with their gender

00:08:28.020 and don't transition end up more than nine out of 10, end up completely content with their gender by

00:08:32.520 the age of 2023. And we know now that people who adopt this trans identity, depending on the study

00:08:41.100 you're looking at between 40 and 50% of them end up committing unaliving themselves. So it's not like

00:08:46.900 a harmless thing to accidentally push someone into when you look at the rate of self-harm within the

00:08:53.140 community. In fact, I don't think you would consider that like an effective treatment for anything else.

00:08:58.540 If there was a psychological treatment where it had a 40% unaliving oneself rate during treatment,

00:09:05.280 people would be like, Oh, we need to be exploring other options to this treatment. And the really

00:09:09.600 sad thing is, and we'll do a full episode on this. There are other options. There was a great study

00:09:13.820 done that shows that actually antipsychotics were extremely effective at lowering gender dysphoria,

00:09:20.080 but you like socially were not allowed to consider and research wise were not allowed to consider

00:09:25.240 options that don't include affirming a trans identity, even though we know that this option

00:09:30.080 has this 40% unaliving oneself rate and the antipsychotics mechanism does not. But that would

00:09:36.520 be, Oh, well, you know, it's like, um, anyway, we won't over-focus on this right now. What I wanted

00:09:42.340 to focus on now is like the other issues was Planned Parenthood, because that's not the only issue.

00:09:48.780 Right. So Planned Parenthood facilities have been accused of financial fraud with taxpayer dollars.

00:09:54.040 What?

00:09:54.400 Planned Parenthood affiliates applied for and received 80 million in coronavirus stimulus funds

00:09:59.460 that they were ineligible for. They stole from the paycheck protection programs that were created

00:10:04.760 to help small businesses survive the pandemic. So they were using the small business paycheck

00:10:08.840 protection programs.

00:10:09.840 Lord almighty.

00:10:10.780 And they have had many lawsuits related to fraudulent Medicare payments. Uh, for example,

00:10:17.260 in one lawsuit in Iowa, uh, from a former Planned Parenthood director who, uh, has evidence of the

00:10:23.160 fraud, they were ordered to pay over a million dollars in restitution to Texas when found guilty

00:10:28.320 of defrauding taxpayers and in California. A 2004 audit showed Planned Parenthood San Diego and

00:10:34.980 Riverside counties received excess payments of various kinds of contraception for 5.2 million.

00:10:41.080 And that's just to name a few.

00:10:42.660 And what's bizarre to me is that they would even need to commit Medicare fraud in the face of having

00:10:47.660 received so many donations. First, when Trump came into office, that was a boon for them. In fact,

00:10:55.300 the free press kind of cites that as one of the major points of their increased radicalization

00:10:59.720 because they received a ton of more donations from people. And with all this additional support,

00:11:04.900 they did a bunch of hiring and they tended to hire politically radical people. So there was kind

00:11:09.680 of the nonprofit version of audience capture in this case, where sort of a Trump derangement

00:11:15.020 syndrome subject audience gave them a lot of money. And then they had to sort of lean into that

00:11:18.780 audience, which of course is getting them to where they are today, where the right now that the

00:11:24.500 Democratic National Convention is taking place as we're recording this episode and Planned

00:11:28.720 Parenthood is present, not offering t-shirts or pins, but birth control and abortion pills and 1.00

00:11:36.380 vasectomies.

00:11:37.360 No, no, no, not just offering, offering for free. I actually love the horror of this. When you go to

00:11:43.840 the DNC National Convention, you can get a free vasectomy. I know, I know. It's insane from a van.

00:11:51.000 Yeah, Tyler Bender was just doing a history on YouTube about the lobotomies, lobotomies,

00:11:57.060 and how like the guy who popularized lobotomies would have these, you just fill theaters full

00:12:01.600 of people who would watch him do like 15 lobotomies back to back on stage to normalize the procedure

00:12:08.880 because he was so bullish on this. And this reminds me so much of that, of just like,

00:12:13.500 bring out the abortion ban. Let's popularize the abortions. And it's also just sort of ironic at the 0.99

00:12:19.220 same time, because there are like literal sterilization vans outside where all of the Democrats and

00:12:24.460 progressives are like convening. What, what is going on here? I'm like, I'm sorry, did we order

00:12:28.500 this to the, did we, like, I know we run the, but you know, we are Republicans. I almost, I almost

00:12:36.600 wanted to turn out that a Republican ordered this. They're like, yeah, we, we, I can't believe that

00:12:41.980 worked. I want like afterwards a thing where like, this would be a great sketch for like the Babylon B

00:12:46.920 where there's two Planned Parenthood guys, like driving out from the DNC, pull off their masks.

00:12:52.580 And it's like, it's like really Republican superheroes. Like, I can't, I know they turn

00:12:57.500 to each other. I cannot believe that just worked. We just drove up to the DNC with a sterilization

00:13:03.400 van, said free sterilization. And they marched their youth out there. Bang, bang, bang, bang.

00:13:11.240 Spayed and neutered. Well, but here's the thing is, is that this is, it's coming across as part of the

00:13:17.960 whole raw, raw, like putting, like throwing into the vibes funeral pyre of the democratic party right

00:13:23.380 now. But it is also a fundraising push. They are there and they're present because they're saying

00:13:30.080 Dobbs was terrible and you have to protect reproductive rights. We are the reproductive 0.74

00:13:34.240 rights people. Come get your vasectomy and make sure you donate to us because we're the ones fighting 1.00

00:13:38.720 for you. And I think it's really important just to be aware of, of the back to the private,

00:13:44.040 feminist guide to governance, the incentives and how they're aligned here. The Planned Parenthood

00:13:48.380 is now in a position where it is, it is very, it has been pulled very, very far from its original

00:13:55.520 mission, which was dubious to start. And we should probably go into that.

00:13:58.700 Well, its original mission was to genetically cleanse the United States of black people. 1.00

00:14:01.720 Its original mission. Well, it was that and eugenics. It was, it was also like sterilized 0.99

00:14:06.440 the poor and the, you know, less resourced.

00:14:10.400 We can really quickly get to this. Well, yeah, I'll quickly get to this.

00:14:14.060 Let's do it. Yeah.

00:14:14.660 I'm actually reading from a Planned Parenthood website right now. This is what Planned Parenthood

00:14:19.500 says about its own founding.

00:14:21.200 Archival website or current website as published today.

00:14:24.320 Current website as published today. It's in the about our history section.

00:14:27.560 August 2024, ladies and gentlemen.

00:14:30.240 Sanger was so intent on her mission to advocate for birth control that she chose to align herself

00:14:34.860 with ideas and organizations that were ableist and white supremacist. In 1929,

00:14:39.040 she spoke to the woman's auxiliary of the Ku Klux Klan at a rally in New Jersey to promote birth

00:14:45.340 control methods. Sanger endorsed the 1927 Buck v. Bell decision in which the U.S. Supreme Court

00:14:51.820 ruled that states could forcibly sterilize people deemed quote unquote unfit without their consent

00:14:56.940 and sometimes without their knowledge. The acceptance of this decision by Sanger and other

00:15:01.220 thought leaders laid the foundation for tens of thousands of people to be sterilized

00:15:04.860 against their will. As a result of these choices, the reproductive rights movement in many cases 0.98

00:15:11.060 deepened racial injustices in the health care system. The field of modern gynecology was founded 0.88

00:15:16.460 by J. Marin Sims, who in the 1800s repeatedly forcibly performed invasive experiments on enslaved

00:15:24.020 black women without anesthesia. In 1939, Sanger began what was called the quote unquote Negro

00:15:29.640 project alongside black leaders like W.E.B. Du Bois and De Bois.

00:15:35.840 Sorry, can you? No, no, no. Go back to butchering it. I, you know, I love that.

00:15:39.840 You know, I don't, I can't say anything.

00:15:41.240 It's like Gomez speaking in French.

00:15:42.240 I don't like foreign language, especially French polluting my American lips.

00:15:47.840 Imagine you had to kiss lips so they can speak in French. 0.98

00:15:51.340 Okay. And Reverend Adam Clayton Powell and Mary McWesa, the mission of the Negro project

00:16:14.740 was to put black doctors and nurses in charge of birth control clinics to reduce the mistrust that 0.91

00:16:21.340 black individuals had about getting sterilized. And so this is an important thing to remember, 0.99

00:16:27.240 I think, for many black individuals is that they can sometimes think that because the leaders of

00:16:35.740 their communities are endorsing something, that that something is not fundamentally racist

00:16:41.980 and antagonistic to their community's interests. Because there is this like bureaucratic,

00:16:47.440 I call it like, I don't know, union boss class was in black culture that has for a long time 0.91

00:16:54.660 worked with the racists in the Democratic Party. Historically, you know, that's the Klan,

00:16:59.360 but you know, now it's like other groups in order to undermine the actual.

00:17:03.000 Oh yeah. Isn't there like a, I wouldn't say not even a detente, but a kind of mutual understanding

00:17:09.760 between a current white supremacist leader and the nation of Islam leader?

00:17:15.300 Yeah, but that's different. I think that they, in that one instance, they actually are on the same

00:17:20.320 side. These are people who are, you know, manipulating black communities into sterilizing 1.00

00:17:25.480 themselves for the best interests of people who are trying to-

00:17:28.160 Yeah, different groups versus groups that are in favor of apartheid, in which case they're like, 1.00

00:17:31.960 yeah, let's just, just fuck off, you know? 1.00

00:17:35.000 Yeah, I'll look up for edit if Planned Parenthood does still disproportionately sterilize black 1.00

00:17:39.740 communities, but I'm pretty sure they do in terms of abortions as well. 0.88

00:17:43.340 Well, you know, with all this transitioning, I imagine it's a lot of white girls. So we're 0.99

00:17:48.620 trying, they're trying to be a little more racially equal here.

00:17:52.280 Oh, actually, no, hold on. It's actually pretty blatant. So 80% of Planned Parenthood's abortion

00:17:57.000 facilities are located in minority communities, even still.

00:18:00.800 Yeah, the one that I used to go to was, yeah.

00:18:03.000 And if you look right now,

00:18:05.000 abortion through Planned Parenthood has reduced the black population in America by 25% since

00:18:10.120 abortion was legalized in 1922.

00:18:11.720 Oh, Lord. That is, oh my gosh. Wait, so I think, what, 8% of the United States population

00:18:19.400 is black right now, right? So it would be maybe closer to-

00:18:23.400 Well, at least according to this. But whether it's 6% or 8%,

00:18:27.440 Could have been 8%.

00:18:28.780 You know the percent of American abortions that are black? 34%. 0.58

00:18:33.500 Oh, wow.

00:18:35.820 And remember you were talking about money and everything like that. So in regards to how much

00:18:41.140 Planned Parenthood gets from the federal government, they've received $1.78 billion in taxpayer money

00:18:47.720 between 2019 and 2022.

00:18:50.220 That makes sense because of Medicaid, because they're providing a lot of primary care adjacent

00:18:54.560 services to people who are on Medicaid, because they're in these neighborhoods, these underserved

00:18:59.560 neighborhoods. And so that makes a lot of sense.

00:19:01.920 This is what I think we need to do if we get involved in a Trump administration. I want to

00:19:06.820 create a plan that takes Planned Parenthood, says that they have not followed their mission as they

00:19:14.240 present it to the public.

00:19:15.020 I don't know. They think they kind of followed their eugenics mission.

00:19:18.380 Okay, okay.

00:19:19.280 They didn't follow the mission that I believe they had when I was a kid.

00:19:21.560 They are about, one, helping parents, right? Planned Parenthood is supposed to be about planning

00:19:28.620 parenthood, right? And then even in addition to that, actually helping trans people. That means

00:19:33.080 both people who want to transition and people who want to detransition at safe ages by the modern

00:19:38.020 research.

00:19:38.400 I say, we say, we agree with both of those things, but clearly the current board and leadership isn't

00:19:43.540 doing a job. So what we need to do is either by executive order or by lawsuit, replace the existing

00:19:49.920 board.

00:19:50.320 The new board is Buck Angel and Kevin Dolan.

00:19:55.260 Yeah. You know, people who want to have it fit this actual mission. And the reason I want to do this

00:20:00.860 is I think so often conservatives end up relating to bureaucracies that get captured like this to be

00:20:07.320 used for nefarious purposes by just retreating, backing out, starting something new that's not

00:20:12.960 corrupted. And then when it becomes successful, it becomes corrupted. Why not just take over one of

00:20:17.460 these existing organizations? And also just the feasing that would happen from the individuals who

00:20:24.440 had made all these giant donations to them that now they're being used to help families and minority

00:20:29.860 families. And they'd be like, no, I wanted them sterilized.

00:20:35.320 Well, you know, I think a lot of the people making these donations, because I think they receive a lot

00:20:39.220 of small grassroots donations as well, believe what I believed. Remember, I grew up in these

00:20:44.220 progressive communities. I attended Planned Parenthood. My mother worked at a Planned Parenthood.

00:20:48.960 You know, I've come from a long line of Planned Parenthood supporters. And we just thought that they were

00:20:56.460 there to support women, just to help women plan families. My mom wanted to have a kid. 1.00

00:21:01.460 Um, you know, ironically, I think one of the reasons why she was infertile, doctors had told her she 1.00

00:21:07.360 couldn't have kids. And I was kind of a surprise was, I think, because of birth control that she had 0.69

00:21:12.860 that had caused a lot of scar tissue in her fallopian tubes, birth control. I don't know.

00:21:17.560 She hasn't gone into that. I don't know if it was like, abortion's gone wrong or something like that.

00:21:21.800 But yeah, it had to do with her, some stuff that had happened. Yeah. So I don't know. But like,

00:21:28.460 anyway, yeah, I just, I think most, most numerically of the people who donate to Planned

00:21:36.960 Parenthood don't understand both its original origins and its current activities. And that's 0.57

00:21:43.100 so boring. So when I think about what an ideal Planned Parenthood would be, though, I also have to

00:21:48.060 think about modern pronatalism. And one of the big shifts that has happened with pronatalism or

00:21:52.900 demographic collapse in general that we see is largely positive. And that is related to this

00:21:56.880 is the fact that one of the key drivers of a drop in fertility is when women in nations that are 0.58

00:22:04.400 developing, stop having unwanted teen pregnancies. We're seeing this happening really rapidly, for

00:22:09.360 example, in Latin America. It's not that the intended number of children that women have is lower.

00:22:13.620 It's that fewer unmarried teens who in many ways aren't ready financially or mentally to have

00:22:20.320 children are not having children. And to a great extent, that's good. You know, we, as perinatalists,

00:22:25.640 as people who love children, do not want children to be born to families who are not equipped or ready

00:22:31.480 to take care of them, especially when these families are, are families that would love to have

00:22:35.760 children and that want to have children and, and plan to have the same number and possibly even more

00:22:41.660 children, you know, once they're well-resourced enough. So in my world, an ideal Planned Parenthood,

00:22:46.400 yes, absolutely helps with birth control and emergency contraception and, and even abortions

00:22:52.620 through, you know, week 10 to 12 or so, right? Like totally no questions asked. Absolutely. You know,

00:22:58.440 you should only have a baby when you're really well, really, really welcome, ready to welcome someone

00:23:02.920 into this world. And then after that, Planned Parenthood should be also a key deliverer of OBGYN care,

00:23:09.840 of, of helping women through their pregnancies. It would be a great place for there to be IVF

00:23:15.180 provided. Imagine, you know, when, when demographic collapse gets far along and honestly, it'd be

00:23:20.300 better if the United States planned for this proactively and turned Planned Parenthood into

00:23:24.340 a key source of government funded IVF, which includes PGTP, that is to say, pre-implantation genetic

00:23:31.780 testing of embryos that allows families to prioritize embryos based on health scores, things like cancer risk,

00:23:38.520 things like diabetes, enormous benefit for the U S healthcare. Yeah. Even, yeah. Even risk of things

00:23:43.020 like obesity. Think about what the American healthcare system pays. No, people both pay 0.91

00:23:47.440 privately for things like cancer treatment, you know, through the nose, the amount of medical debt

00:23:51.760 that Americans are in right now is insane. Right. So that, that could be reduced. And, you know,

00:23:57.100 we live in a socialist country. Like we were just alluding to in many other podcasts, people,

00:24:02.100 a huge number of people living out or near the poverty line, you have most of their healthcare paid for

00:24:06.040 by the U S government. And the U S government could save a ton of money by proactively investing

00:24:11.960 in families, being able to select for genetically better rolls of the dice among their own genetics.

00:24:18.140 So in a way, this is almost kind of true to the original eugenicist vision of Planned Parenthood of

00:24:24.020 like, we want, we want healthy, you know, Americans to be born and we don't want-

00:24:28.680 Instead of sterilizing-

00:24:30.380 Instead of taking people out of the gene pool, you help uplift them into the general population.

00:24:36.300 The best roll of the dice. Yeah. So it's not saying you don't get to roll. You're out of the game.

00:24:39.900 It's saying, you know what, we're going to load the dice for you, you know, because you didn't have a

00:24:43.660 good, your odds weren't great coming in and that's great. Imagine that world. So, okay. So we're

00:24:49.500 switching from a Planned Parenthood that's systematically-

00:24:52.220 Wait, Planned Parenthood.

00:24:54.060 Yet.

00:24:55.500 But anyway, hold on, hold on. I, I, uh, I also think that like people forget

00:25:01.580 how horrific Planned Parenthood got during its, its, its, you know, like-

00:25:05.340 Oh, it's early years?

00:25:06.940 Yeah. When one in four pregnancies in the United States ended in an abortion where it was treated

00:25:12.700 as like a regular part of, and this would have been around your mom's period, right? So she might

00:25:17.580 have seen it this way as a regular form of birth control equivalent to other forms of birth control.

00:25:22.780 I love it when you call it birth control.

00:25:24.140 It really shouldn't be seen that way. I mean, it should be treated with quite a lot of weight.

00:25:28.380 See our abortion episode, which I don't know if it's gone live yet. I don't think it has.

00:25:31.500 It has. It's gone live. Yeah.

00:25:33.500 Oh, okay.

00:25:33.980 Last week. Yeah.

00:25:34.700 Time for that.

00:25:35.820 I mean, I think that as the Pernatalist movement grows, one of the things that we're going to have 1.00

00:25:41.580 to become adept at doing, and I really want to focus on this as a movement because I

00:25:46.460 haven't seen other movements do this well, which is using legal systems and government

00:25:53.660 plays to take over institutions that were created or were being used for other means,

00:26:01.100 but would work for a pronatalist means instead of-

00:26:04.620 Yeah. No, Planned Parenthood would be an amazing deliverer of IVF care. Oh my gosh.

00:26:09.260 And of prenatal care and of-

00:26:11.100 Yes.

00:26:11.180 Perfect institution to do something like this.

00:26:13.580 But also still birth control abortions. Again, I'm not against that. And I want to point out

00:26:18.060 that a world in which abortions were banned, where people did underground abortions,

00:26:22.940 it was a horrific world. This was not... In the end, I care about if we have to kill babies,

00:26:32.780 let us kill them with dignity and with pain management and in the way that you would euthanize 0.99

00:26:38.060 any human very, very seriously and carefully, right? If you have a non-viable pregnancy. 0.99

00:26:44.940 So what she's referring to here is if you get a surgery on the baby and you're like a normal

00:26:53.020 mother and you're trying to keep the baby alive, after 12 weeks, they use anesthesia on the fetus

00:27:00.060 because it would be considered inhumane not to. But when they do abortions after that, 0.99

00:27:04.060 they do not use anesthesia.

00:27:05.420 It's not standard practice to use anesthesia.

00:27:07.260 And of course, if you're doing an illegal abortion, there's not even anesthesia for the

00:27:10.940 mother. It's just whatever goes. I mean, maybe it's well done, maybe it's not. So the thing is,

00:27:15.900 I think we need to also kind of look at the government like parents look at kids, which is

00:27:21.340 if you ban something outright, like you say, hey, never do drug or never drink alcohol,

00:27:25.980 your kid's going to go out. You don't know where they're going to drink. You know, you don't know

00:27:28.700 who they're going to drink with. It could go pretty bad. If you're more open about that stuff

00:27:32.620 and you're like, yeah, listen, you want a glass of wine, have a glass of wine, whatever. Like,

00:27:35.660 try it here. You're able to do it in a more safe environment where there's less damage done.

00:27:39.820 But the point I'm making is it's not just Planned Parenthood. In most countries,

00:27:44.300 there is some sort of family planning organization, like within the US government. Like if you wanted to

00:27:49.340 create a pronatalist branch of the US government, there is already a department for family planning.

00:27:53.980 Yeah. And it is, it would just make a natural sense.

00:27:58.460 The infrastructure is there.

00:28:01.180 Not just the infrastructure, but the slush funds have already been created.

00:28:05.420 So taking control of that infrastructure and taking control of those slush funds are absolutely

00:28:11.660 critical for quickly achieving pronatalist aims. I love that. I love that. It's like,

00:28:17.180 okay, so you want to make America more pronatalist. What do you do? And we're like two words,

00:28:22.140 planned parenthood. It's so subversive, but it makes so much sense. 0.99

00:28:27.500 But it's not just things like that. You also see this was in the UN, right? So

00:28:31.820 the antinatalists have done this historically. So things like the UN populations division are really

00:28:37.900 heavily infested with antinatalists and people who want to do planned rapid reductions of the human 0.99

00:28:44.780 population. You can see our video on the UN conspiracy to lower the global population.

00:28:50.460 But just as those organizations and nefarious individuals have infiltrated those organizations,

00:28:57.340 if for example, somebody in our podcast is a big wig at the UN or something like that, 0.99

00:29:02.540 inserting people like us or people who we can send you who might have less public baggage than us,

00:29:07.260 but our rabid pronatalists. For example, you want a qualified woman of color who's a rabid 1.00

00:29:15.020 pronatalist and has no negative baggage tied to us. We can serve you one on a silver platter.

00:29:20.140 You just let us know what you need and we can give you the next head of the UN global population

00:29:24.700 division that is not going to keep fudging the data. I'm going to put a graph on screen here right

00:29:29.420 now because it horrified me when I saw it and it came from the UN population division or from

00:29:34.380 it was extrapolated from their stuff. And it shows global fertility rates going up and then going

00:29:41.180 down and then just like stopping, just stop, stop going down. And they just get normal. Yeah.

00:29:46.860 Wait, wait, wait, wait. Why do you think that's going to happen?

00:29:51.260 This is so common in any form of modeling though. And I had this moment in 2016 when I first started

00:29:57.420 making financial models and I asked a bunch of professors and other professionals and academics like,

00:30:02.620 okay, so how are these models made? Because I always used to look at models and really take

00:30:06.060 them seriously and take them like for granted, you know, take them at face value. And then I discovered

00:30:12.300 like all the formulas, everything that's going on here is just, you know, someone's just fudging it.

00:30:19.980 Like there's just a cell. There's a place where it was like, I don't know, it's going to increase by,

00:30:23.100 I don't know, like 3%. I was actually listening about the, when, when the gold standard was dropped in,

00:30:29.180 around the, the 1930s, how Franklin Delano Roosevelt would have these breakfast meetings

00:30:35.740 and just be like, let's set the exchange rate to, you know, like let's set the, the, the value at,

00:30:40.940 you know, $21. Cause you know, 21, seven times three, and it's like, it's a nice number.

00:30:46.060 And they would present it to the American people. Like, you know, 21.32 cents, you know,

00:30:53.980 like it's just like really specific numbers. Now determining most prudent move for insurance company.

00:31:16.700 Fail out. Everyone's like, wow. You know, top men are on this. This is top men.

00:31:21.580 We have top men working on it right now.

00:31:28.140 And we, we, we're being taken care of here. We may be off the gold standard, but everything's

00:31:32.300 going to be okay, ladies and gentlemen. And meanwhile, due to bureaucrats in a room. 1.00

00:31:38.300 Nice. Yeah. And that's just how it is. And that's, that's the problem with modeling and all these

00:31:43.020 projections is they are bullshit in the end and people can be informed, but there's, I think there's 0.51

00:31:48.460 also the issue of the more academics often know about things. Um, sometimes and not always, 0.87

00:31:55.180 it depends on the field. It seems like the less they are able to predict and model things because

00:32:00.060 they know too much. They're overthinking things and you're better off studies that looked at this.

00:32:05.260 She's not giving her own conjecture. Yeah. I'm not giving my own conjecture. Um,

00:32:08.780 you can see this a little bit in prediction models. There are some exceptions where sometimes large

00:32:13.580 groups of non-experts make better predictions than, um, moderate groups of experts, for example.

00:32:20.940 Now that's not always true. Sometimes experts do make better predictions because they know things

00:32:24.220 that depend on the field, but still, I just feel like with most projections, I now have zero faith

00:32:29.100 and there's a reason why. And yeah, I agree with everything you're seeing. It's something I've seen.

00:32:33.740 I think this is one of the things in society where the higher you rise, you realize a lot of times where

00:32:38.060 you thought that like competent people who knew what they were doing were doing something and they just

00:32:41.820 weren't. It was just somebody being like, well, that would be inconvenient if the fertility rate 1.00

00:32:45.900 keeps falling given our objective to, or they just can't fathom how it would like, they're just like,

00:32:51.100 you know what? I think that what makes the most sense is I bet people just start having two kids

00:32:55.580 each. Yeah. But why? Like you're like, but why would you think that when all leading indicators?

00:33:00.140 I don't know. It's what I want. It's what most of my friends want. Like that again,

00:33:03.740 it's just kind of fudging intuition and sometimes it works. Oh my God. We absolutely forgotten.

00:33:09.260 And we have to do an episode on that article that you read where the girl was like, oh, well, 1.00

00:33:13.500 all of my friends in the city want two kids and we're old. Oh, Reagan's article. Yeah. Yeah.

00:33:21.420 Because there's this article and we'll do a separate episode. That might actually work

00:33:25.420 really well with the Israel discussion that we are about to have. All right, let's do it.

00:33:29.740 I love you to death, Simone. It is so wonderful that you are the type of woman who is able to update

00:33:35.500 your views when you realize that the people you thought were good guys are horrifying baby

00:33:39.980 murderers. Well, I love that. I have the type of husband who is out of the box and creative enough 0.90

00:33:45.420 to look at an organization like Planned Parenthood and say, you know what? That's the answer to our

00:33:50.060 prayers. Let's use that to save pronatalism. If any of our followers have institutional buy-in or

00:33:57.420 power at any institution where you're like, you know what? We could actually slot you guys into a

00:34:01.260 position like this or somebody who you recommended to us, let us know and we will give you the people.

00:34:06.540 Because we're always a heartbeat away from being fired from our only paying day job.

00:34:11.980 Absolutely. I love you to death. I love you too. Oh, it is sad. I know.

00:34:18.140 And we thought we were going to charge for the Collins Institute and now we plan to launch it for free.

00:34:21.740 Yeah. Thanks, Malcolm. But you're right to do it. I love you. Love you too.

Based Camp - August 27, 2024

Planned Parenthood is So Far Right Even Republicans Shouldn’t Support It

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