Based Camp - Post-Globalization Monarchist Philosophy： With the Aristocratic Utensil

00:00:00.000 hello everyone we're so excited today to be joined by a very special guest spoon the aristocratic

00:00:05.740 utensil on youtube as well as on x although their handle on x is at aris and what i wanted to talk

00:00:12.600 about today was voting and democracy and is it relevant anymore and where how could you construct

00:00:21.460 better systems and i thought that you'd be a great person to have on with this especially talking with

00:00:25.480 us because i know that you had like monarchist leanings people have called our political

00:00:30.900 beliefs plutarchist i'm interested to hear more from you oh basically how did i get to my views

00:00:38.120 yeah did you grow better why you think it's you know a good structure what a perfect country would

00:00:46.240 look like okay so it's kind of weird how i even got into politics in general because if i if i

00:00:53.440 would look at like my 16 year old self and my 35 year old self and go you're going to be on youtube

00:00:58.840 one day talking about politics i would go okay what the hell happened in my life that made me take an

00:01:05.640 interest in politics let alone monarchy how did i get to that that's just bizarre i don't how and it

00:01:14.820 was it was basically because a friend of mine several years ago this was like back in early 2010s i want

00:01:22.100 to say before bernie sarnas really hit the scene but she was also a bernie fan this this will show

00:01:27.540 you how long the culture has shifted for and just a very short amount of time actually is that she was

00:01:32.380 a californian girl who was let's just say she was built in a very feminine way she's from california

00:01:38.260 but lefty perspectives but she control like i'm an absolute arsehole right winger which by today's

00:01:45.900 standards makes no sense an extremely lefty person but they spit right-wing insults yes like she would

00:01:52.000 drop slurs in a way that would get you banned on twitter within 30 seconds which is not a human

00:01:56.300 being that exists today standard and she got me into bernie sarnas as as a political figure and then

00:02:03.780 right about the time he said a couple of things that made me as a south african go

00:02:09.680 that's just factually not true he said white people don't know what it's like to be poor

00:02:15.960 and i went mathematically that doesn't even add up that's just that's just not true and the way he

00:02:23.220 spoke about certain racial policies made me go okay were you a a like bernie supporter at this point

00:02:30.900 like you liked him as a political candidate yes i think okay so i said this in one of my streams and

00:02:36.600 i think this is what makes you go further left-leaning and what makes you right-wing is that

00:02:42.220 from the the old liberal perspectives i do think it is based upon a lot of people can look at the

00:02:49.140 system and go there is a lot of corruption there is a lot of unnecessary government control in places

00:02:55.660 they shouldn't be and they sort of just look at the the current paradigm and go this is not a moral

00:03:01.460 system and the problem is they look at this situation and go there should be state intervention what

00:03:07.900 they're really looking for is morality in the state whereas if you're a right-winger you'll

00:03:14.300 recognize this doesn't work right and so you'll you'll tend to go from more libertarian perspective

00:03:20.620 which is just these institutions are beyond repair because they incentivize a certain behavior that you

00:03:27.280 cannot generate just through powering through the institutions you have to structure them in a way

00:03:33.440 that actually make the political class want to benefit the citizenry and the way that they want

00:03:40.200 the system to work just does not gel with human nature and when you go from that perspective you can

00:03:46.340 go okay now you have to shift libertarian or go completely insane and advocate for monarchy in the

00:03:51.160 21st century that's more the route that i took whereas the opposite end of leftism they are just

00:03:57.960 motivated motivated purely by envy there's just that i cannot compete in this system and so i must

00:04:04.780 smash it to bits in the hopes that whatever comes next will appeal to me and i've seen the people who go

00:04:10.560 for that and i don't want to be disrespectful but there's not a brain cell in those people like

00:04:16.720 really they are completely driven by this fantasy idea of an idealized bureaucracy it's kind of weird

00:04:24.120 this is the way i'm describing these people is whatever i wish to see in a king they wish to

00:04:30.940 see in an entire bureaucracy that abides by their morality that's a great way of putting it yeah

00:04:36.640 because what i feel differently about what you were saying is you were saying that like the sort of the

00:04:41.100 leftist leaning is smash what exists and then rebuild it whereas i think that was how it was for a while

00:04:46.700 and then it turned to just have the government fix it like fix the because they're in power now

00:04:51.360 fix them yeah fix the market failure and then this assumption that the entire government can

00:04:55.540 suddenly do that on a whim yes i really like a point you made here and i'd elevate it as i think

00:05:02.420 that this is distinctly part of what makes the new right quite different from the old right which is

00:05:09.160 the new right isn't particularly sold around one government ideology it's more just that they

00:05:15.840 actually want to fix things and they have multiple hypotheses about how that can be done and there

00:05:22.140 is like active debate and active attempts to implement this we even see was like elon and trump's

00:05:26.860 government right now or jd vance you know talking about like economic issues that would typically be

00:05:31.920 outside the normal right whereas the left just wants to not have to worry about money and that can be

00:05:38.940 achieved through printing money or taking money yeah they're basically materialists i would say

00:05:44.140 the biggest problem that the right has and this is going to sound a bit strange but there is an

00:05:49.760 aspect that the left this makes no sense if i say it out loud so i have to explain this and practice a

00:05:55.020 bit is the left understands humanity and the right does not which i'm aware comes makes yes here's what

00:06:03.060 i mean by that the harry on the lotus eaters pointed this out as well because him and i were having a

00:06:07.220 conversation about this is that the way that the the left operates is they claim the champion

00:06:13.560 egalitarianism and equality equal rights and all this stuff but the way they behave in power is

00:06:19.180 militantly hierarchical yes there's control from the top and anything down below there's no dissent

00:06:25.880 it's one man follow like a general in an army it's why they make such powerful roads because they

00:06:32.100 actually abide by how humans actually function the problem of it is the ideas they implement don't work

00:06:39.260 because they don't abide by human nature what the right doesn't recognize is this is how your

00:06:45.380 opposition plays the game is they will make you abide by their rules and they just hack the system

00:06:50.920 because they know that as long as you play by those rules you will lose and they can do whatever the hell

00:06:55.060 they want that's something that the right needs to learn is that if you wish to get in power

00:07:00.400 is that your opposition just gets power and imposes their will what you have to do is get in power and

00:07:09.700 force your worldview down their throat this is the same way they do to you don't this this thing this

00:07:15.040 this is an idea of no no ideas must be challenged and ideas must be debated like yeah that's a nice

00:07:21.100 ideal if everyone is playing the same game yeah however if you're not playing the same game then it's

00:07:26.620 i have the biggest stick and i'm gonna beat the crap out of you with it and people think this is

00:07:31.000 oppressive but this is how the world works structurally how do you do that like if you

00:07:36.440 were giving advice i mean i feel like right now when i look at what the trump administration is doing

00:07:40.700 this cycle i'm like wow like this is exactly what i've always wanted to see a president do

00:07:45.360 like would you be telling them to do something different or do you think they finally like figured it out

00:07:49.240 i think if you were to just get okay i would think america's biggest problem is separation of church and state

00:07:54.840 is i don't think i don't think that is a good idea i think any sane civilization the church and state

00:08:03.320 must be wielded if it's going to survive oh here's an area where i would disagree really strongly i think

00:08:08.200 combining the church and the state always ends up watering down the church was more progressive or

00:08:13.340 secular ideals as we've seen happen to the church in the uk well but we're moving in in more spoons

00:08:20.100 direction because the domestic policy is part of broader broader efforts to reshape domestic policy

00:08:27.820 including the establishment of the white house faith office which was established via executive

00:08:32.860 order on february 7th and it aims to integrate faith-based perspectives that is pretty badass yes

00:08:38.220 no but hold on hold on hold on because i actually believe this very strongly i think that in the u.s and

00:08:43.300 in the uk some churches have liberalized but within the uk like the church that always ends up liberalizing

00:08:49.940 one of the most is whenever you have at least to my knowledge pretty much in every country where you

00:08:55.140 have a church and state integration and that church and state integration is a christian one rather than

00:08:59.980 a muslim one the state ends up corrupting the church and making it very progressive so if we had a

00:09:05.540 state-based version of christianity in the u.s it would be one of the most progressive versions i was just

00:09:11.660 watching a great video it would be universe unitarian universalist yeah and he was the oldest churches in

00:09:18.840 the u.s are always the most progressive and the newer churches are always the more conservative what

00:09:23.720 are your thoughts on that i wonder if that's more an american phenomenon because i don't i think that

00:09:29.960 scales depending on the culture around them the reason i say this is because i actually think it's it's

00:09:35.980 about the competing sex of christianity because the reason i say this is because i've had conversations

00:09:41.080 with american protestants and the protestants back home and what i find interesting is that

00:09:47.060 south africa's christian sect comes from like the french huguenots that were trying to escape catholic

00:09:54.100 persecution in france and you have germans and you've got dutch mix and there's no other competing

00:09:58.740 sect of christianity it's just protestants so there's no like russian orthodox or i mean there is now i

00:10:05.640 suppose but there's no there's no like mixture of competing ideologies and so there's just the one

00:10:11.480 and i get the feeling that if it's just like this one that everyone relies on then okay yeah it is more

00:10:17.060 i suppose it is easier to change the culture if you happen to permeate the the church and change it from

00:10:22.100 the inside but it is also more protective because everyone knows that yet this is the only entrance you

00:10:26.460 can go to change is through this one institution like there's no other entrances so i'm wondering if

00:10:31.900 the competition of many also makes it easier to spread the ideology in ways like what you just

00:10:38.120 said is like age is a variation that you just brought up i'm not saying this is the case i'm

00:10:42.560 just wondering if that might we actually have talked about this a lot on the show because it's something

00:10:46.260 that we study to try to understand how to like keep cultures protected and a really common phenomenon

00:10:51.000 you see across religions is if a religion is connected to the state like if or even the majority

00:10:57.220 of the population like if a catholic majority population in a country the catholics in that country will be

00:11:01.720 very very loosey-goosey catholics but if they are a minority particularly a oppressed minority then

00:11:07.940 they will be much more conservative and rigid and following their beliefs and i can understand why

00:11:12.680 that would be the case that's probably why it's because if they're if they're minority they feel

00:11:17.860 threatened if they feel threatened they will take whatever is closest as a defensive mechanism and

00:11:21.800 bolster it yeah and once once something becomes more mainstream it becomes more watered down

00:11:28.340 so a question i had for you based on what you were saying earlier is aligning government worker

00:11:35.040 incentives with sort of like like what is good for the people i've written extensively on this

00:11:43.080 particular subject because i think it's really interesting the way that like i wrote is probably

00:11:47.180 the best you could do that is to separate the different incentives that you would want for a state

00:11:52.460 and then build voting patterns based on each of those incentives i.e like the amount that you're

00:11:57.840 paying in taxes determines your vote was in one branch of the government how many kids you have

00:12:03.500 determines your vote was in another branch of the government i'm wondering how you look to do this

00:12:07.980 within a monarchist system or within any sort of a system that you would think of like how do you

00:12:12.280 align the government bureaucrats incentive with the people i quite like what you just pitched there

00:12:17.860 like almost like a scoring based system for your sway and power yeah that's kind of cool actually

00:12:24.240 but my only okay i can't explain how my government system no no i want to hear his only problem with

00:12:28.580 that okay my only problem that i have with democracy in general and i was reading a short

00:12:34.920 stint by a book by james i think it was james brennan the case against or like against democracy and

00:12:40.400 one of the other things that he points out with is that there is an idea of democracy in a sort of

00:12:46.720 idealistic way is that if you give people information they will vote in a certain direction

00:12:53.520 that is more in line with their interests that makes sense on paper the problem is you can have

00:12:59.580 the smartest people in the world but if everyone you vote for is a corrupt asshole the geniuses of

00:13:04.320 your population goes nowhere i actually asked this on twitter i said if you could have a smart

00:13:09.320 population or moral politicians what would you have like 90 said moral politicians like the

00:13:15.180 intelligence or the population did not matter because they said those who are in the state

00:13:19.160 are the ones who make the policy and those are the people that matter the voice of the people in the

00:13:23.260 grand scheme of things does not matter if everyone that you can vote for is a prick

00:13:26.620 which is like oh god yeah like i was i was listening to some of the people that are like

00:13:34.360 outspoken democrats today yeah i said to a friend of mine you realize the most rational democrat

00:13:39.780 right now is probably john federman honestly yeah i like john federman he's local to us and i'm like

00:13:45.780 if john federman won and then ran in the next election cycle for president i think he'd be a

00:13:50.240 really hard person to beat yep that's the guy with like a literal brain injury is the most functional

00:13:56.740 one that it's like an snl skit yeah yeah well no no we've been on snl skit mode since 2016 this has

00:14:03.560 been great yeah it's yeah it also kind of makes me embarrassed when i just look at human civilization i

00:14:08.760 sort of look at this and go don't you want to be in the interesting timeline i'd rather be in a

00:14:14.360 functional timeline lame i disagree i'm very boring i'm a guy this is where i might disagree the most

00:14:22.300 with you because i love people i was on i don't know one some show on and i don't know fox or

00:14:28.040 something and they were like aren't you tired of being the rebellion and i was like no no being the

00:14:34.140 rebellion's the best this is awesome i am fighting a big bad evil i have my collection of of rudy tootie

00:14:43.540 like in fact in fact i almost think if we won and we began consolidating power i may feel an instinct

00:14:51.880 to switch sides because i feel like am i just like a voice of the state now yeah that is a way to view

00:14:59.580 it but i would say there's a certain kind of monotonous thing about it is that you're just

00:15:05.720 constantly cheering for your side and i i do understand the aspect of it is more fun to be

00:15:11.140 the rebel that punches whereas there is a certain element of okay how can i say this like aristocratic

00:15:18.500 haughty-toitiness of just like oh we're in power now and we can dedicate what we want ma ha ha ha and

00:15:22.900 you come across like an evil villain but then i also look at my opposition and go when you were in

00:15:26.820 power this is what you did to me i'm going to enjoy crushing your soul for the next four years

00:15:31.080 i mean and i will be very villainous about it because i have the accent for it so ha ha

00:15:35.540 you got it flaunt it i worry i mean i see this instinct on part of the right right but they

00:15:43.660 haven't been successful in influencing the the at least the trump administration in the position of

00:15:48.700 power right now and i think that this is enormously good if you look at where the trump

00:15:52.680 administration is actually counting its wins right now and trump has even said this in some

00:15:56.700 of his speeches he focuses only on 90 10 issues and i think that this is really smart because we

00:16:03.420 don't want to have happen to us what happened to the wokes in the culture war which is we let our

00:16:09.400 version of like trans activists that are pushing things that like wouldn't even win was in our own

00:16:14.240 party as our mainstream message and then get the general public to hate us and i think trump has been

00:16:19.740 while he has been like absolutely brutal on the stuff that every american agrees on like doge and

00:16:25.380 usaid and everything like that and the trans people in sports he hasn't pushed over the line

00:16:30.960 and there was actually an issue simone where you wanted him to push over the line and then you were

00:16:34.680 like oh i actually appreciate what was the issue i can't remember you're like why won't he go over

00:16:40.440 on oh no daylight savings yeah daylight saving yeah you wanted him to abolish daylight savings

00:16:45.240 yeah because most rational people do an issue yeah he he pointed out this is a surprisingly popular

00:16:50.560 issue to abolish daylight savings and i don't is there a particular reason why i'm not i've just

00:16:55.960 seen a lot of people do it i'm go why is this like an issue because an hour is stolen from your weekend

00:17:00.900 once every year it is the worst holiday of the year and but simone you the specific argument you

00:17:06.620 laid out for me is it specifically so it has been scientifically shown that on daylight savings day

00:17:11.480 because of the schedule change because not everyone is on board and that organized there

00:17:16.080 is a spike in hospitalizations and heart attacks and and i think strokes as well because of the

00:17:20.920 stress associated with the time change now i would argue that simplifying the tax code with the irs

00:17:26.180 would probably save a lot more lives because i think that causes way more stress than like a

00:17:29.920 like a time change being oh i'm late for work but it's still a fairly i had a horrible donk joke

00:17:38.520 now where that went because that's our audience right here it's like between the male and female

00:17:45.280 my my interaction was my god if daylight savings time causes you heartaches maybe you're supposed to

00:17:50.060 die yes we can just call it gentle purge day happy gentle purge day oh god

00:17:59.320 yeah yeah we talk about this on this channel a lot as like the pro natalist people people are like

00:18:07.060 oh you must want these selfish dink couples having more kids and i'm like no like it is great that

00:18:12.580 they're being removed from the gene pool nature is healing yeah i kind of agree with that i tend to

00:18:18.160 have a more higher genetic variation in the population primarily because i've seen what bad genes do to

00:18:23.920 people and i've seen how people with shitty genes behave like this something i like about the right

00:18:28.960 is it is becoming much more aggressive with the physiognomy checking oh god fantastic yeah it's great

00:18:35.980 because i think aporia just released a long essay on like is physiognomy real like this it's become

00:18:42.720 so trendy yes it's the obvious answer like there's there's certain people i can just look at and go like

00:18:48.460 you're just evil i can just tell like my soul is oh no so bitchy resting face is just

00:18:54.100 you're a bitch face no i mean i can't really say much because i myself look quite evil

00:18:59.760 yes i mean very clever in in putting no it's actually something that we noticed when we were

00:19:06.240 in san francisco last and we were looking at like old protest marches and stuff like that and we're

00:19:11.720 like oh my god these people actually we see this so there's humans in the 60s they look like mutants

00:19:18.160 they they the ones at the protests did not look like humans and when you normally when you look

00:19:24.620 in 60s you're like wow this is before everyone got overweight they look like the background from

00:19:29.980 like rocky horror picture show they look like that yeah they do it was notable yeah you can see this

00:19:34.760 if you go to the harvey milk terminal at sfo they're big like wall-sized pictures and yeah i have

00:19:40.840 seen some pictures of like the rainbow hippie marches and i'm like okay god if you want to flood the

00:19:46.960 world again of these people i would not be opposed just give me a floating raft it'll be good

00:19:51.400 alternate theory it could just be the intense amount of drugs they were all on no no no simone

00:19:55.900 that's true was it a discount ben discount ben love no but where i really saw this loudly was we

00:20:04.040 go to this conference where like the i don't know if you've heard of like the effective altruism

00:20:07.680 movement but like our branch of it the right wing branch of it ends up mixing with the other branch

00:20:11.760 and the right wing branch it's the group that i generally call like the bio bros and everything like that

00:20:16.680 and every single one of them looks like a fraternity guy like i don't know if you've

00:20:20.740 seen like johnny anomaly or like matt archer who runs aporia or we saw cremeu and in person from from

00:20:27.460 x and he looks exactly like a character from like animal house like and it's in and then the other

00:20:32.240 side all actually looks like mutants well or as as the jelly heretic calls them spite what it's spiteful

00:20:40.300 mutants ah yes i should get an interview with him actually he messaged me a while ago oh yeah if you

00:20:46.640 want us to like warm and true you or something just just let us know yeah because i i i do find him

00:20:52.220 interesting and i feel like he can draw out like my spiciest behavior and i can probably say some real

00:20:56.520 yeah yeah i don't have a topic to discuss with him he's more spicy than us i'll tell you that like

00:21:03.200 he is yes yes i've i've i've i have some friends who've met him and he's like he is really really

00:21:08.800 based like i can do that i can i can say i have some horribly spicy opinions that i'm he's a dude

00:21:14.880 and he was filming a documentary at our house and he actually offered he's like i'm gonna cut out some

00:21:21.860 of what you guys said because it was too spicy and i was like what did i say that was so spicy

00:21:26.020 and then i realized what it was i went on a rant against the german people and who i'm glad they're

00:21:30.180 going okay yeah i i would i would take the opposite position because i have some german ancestry it's

00:21:37.600 not like i do too i do too but i mean look at germany right now yeah i i kind of want their their

00:21:44.380 current elite class and return to the kaiser because that that to me was just where it all went really

00:21:49.960 really wrong like even the kaiser said abdication was not a good idea it did not produce what he

00:21:55.520 wanted and that that's that's a whole thing i kind of want to tell to people just be very careful about

00:22:00.020 who you wish to get rid of because i can guarantee you the person that you wish to prop up is not the

00:22:04.360 cure that you think it is yeah you just see the current this is evil and everyone that you like is

00:22:09.000 is good and everyone that you hate is bad and that is very simplistic binary that is not historically

00:22:14.960 speaking accurate by any means at all like take a look at what happened when you knocked off qaddafi

00:22:19.560 or saddam hussein or literally anyone that america's intervened with in the last oh i don't know about

00:22:24.940 125 years since the monroe doctrine so yeah yeah maybe give that a second thought that was actually

00:22:32.900 this really underrated element when i studied technology policy the whole thing was basically

00:22:38.200 about when and how you should intervene when there's a market failure that the only purpose of

00:22:43.600 the government is to step in and intervene when there's a market failure and then there was this one

00:22:47.980 one day in one class in the entire course where they were like well and i guess we should sometimes

00:22:53.440 question whether or not the government is actually capable of sufficiently resolving market failures

00:23:00.120 like can they actually fix it or do they make things worse when they intervene by the way for people who

00:23:04.680 are wondering where she was studying this and they they brought this just once and it was it was never

00:23:08.580 like oh well here's a statistic and it's just a statistical analysis for statistical analysis of

00:23:14.540 every time there has been an intervention of this type and whether it has worked or not there was

00:23:18.600 there was no like okay well let's try to figure out if it's on average worth it for the government

00:23:23.520 to intervene it was just i mean maybe maybe it doesn't always work when the government intervenes so

00:23:28.880 maybe we should be asking that one lone moment of dissent yes it's like it's like one little like

00:23:34.360 maybe that's the question guys maybe we shouldn't be like yeah why why why why would you expand the

00:23:43.720 bureaucratic state and basically pave the way for the government america's suffering in the now

00:23:49.060 that has a load of gunk that needs to get rid of okay here's my thing though about monarchies right

00:23:55.900 there's a lot of monarchies out there right now of varying degrees of actual monarchiness and varying

00:24:01.200 degrees of like shadow democracy taking place are there any countries or even experimental city

00:24:08.320 states out there where you're like that's a model that i like that it exists today or would you need

00:24:14.160 to or in history or in history okay yeah first today then history see this to me is is always kind

00:24:21.180 of an interesting question to ask because i feel like if you look at historically speaking at monarchies

00:24:26.380 it very much depends on how the people themselves want to be governed rather than the sort of

00:24:33.380 individual kings of the time because you can always look at history and go

00:24:37.580 see when people look at historically they sort of look at the modern perspective of if this person was

00:24:45.080 alive today with my politics how would i rate their reign it's very difficult to sort of look at history

00:24:50.920 and go what does a king in this period of time is considered like a noble or good king because you

00:24:57.960 can look at history and go you're richard you're lionauts you're king alfred you're catherine the great

00:25:02.640 or peter the great of federer the great of prussia and sort of say like well they expanded economic

00:25:07.820 opportunities during this time or your enlightened monarchs or despots you know and i it's always for me the

00:25:14.560 case of if i was going to look at a modern day sort of state the main thing that everyone is concerned

00:25:22.220 with in in modernity is materialistic gain and really not much else huh yeah and so yes there you

00:25:32.140 go is to what end and i've said to people the biggest problem of modernity is not capitalism it's

00:25:37.540 consumerism yeah there's no problem with private property and free markets that's all fine the

00:25:44.600 problem is that if you only live to consume you're just a mammal yeah but how do you how do you think

00:25:53.860 about this i mean so you which is the point you're making is that you would judge the monarch by their

00:25:57.640 ability to increase the material wealth of the people how does that affect your thoughts or do you

00:26:03.020 think that that's a bad way to judge a good monarch i i would say like if if somebody were to ask me

00:26:08.240 like what would a monarch do in today's society i feel like it would be very difficult to answer that

00:26:13.760 question when i look at the problems of our society today like like for i said the separation of church

00:26:18.980 and state is in my head is is a better idea than what we have now because like you you can say that

00:26:25.060 well if you look at you you you consider it the acceleration of progressivism if you were to

00:26:31.340 wedded today based on what you see which is maybe a good case to make but then you might also make the

00:26:37.080 case of well if we tried in the monarchy in today's society might it be different because the structure

00:26:41.840 is different we don't know they can even experiment with that so that's kind of the thing that i would

00:26:46.620 say the main thing that i would like to see a monarch be able to do or just any state in general

00:26:53.020 is just you need to find a way to actually flex power and also do it in a non-democratic way and just

00:27:01.160 say yeah well i'm taking the reins and you can piss off yeah and that's always been such a delicate

00:27:05.800 interplay right because when you look at the most famous monarchs half of their story is them trying

00:27:11.240 to wrest control from the nobility which in turn is trying to undermine them at every turn and maybe

00:27:16.080 subvert and take them over so you're right they don't that you can't think of a monarch out of

00:27:22.300 context they didn't fall out of a coconut tree they exist in the context in which all in which they

00:27:27.420 live and what came before them there's a really great quote i wish i could find a friend of mine

00:27:32.820 posted me this it was from a guy called eric ritter von cornell ladin very long name he's an austrian

00:27:38.580 noble yes he was an austrian nobleman of the of the early 20th century i think he was born the

00:27:43.180 late 19 or late 1800s incredibly bright individual i think he could speak something like nine languages

00:27:49.880 i've called classic european yes yes yeah classic of austrian aristocracy i think he could he actually

00:27:57.320 taught japanese in japan oh yeah very intelligent beautiful yes and he and mentions mole bug i think

00:28:05.820 has read him as well because i know we read him because it was through unqualified reservations that i

00:28:10.000 discovered the name and started reading his books yeah and he makes a case of in the old world

00:28:16.580 the function of the king was to unite with the peasantry against the aristocracy oh that's good

00:28:23.560 yeah and i know mobak also made the point of the three aristotelian forms of government is rule of the

00:28:30.740 many rule of a few rule of one and typically speaking the two out of three can or two uniting can knock out

00:28:38.360 the third so in our timeline it would be the people uniting behind the monarch to get rid of the

00:28:44.380 aristocracy which is basically what you have now is because i was watching msnbc or cnn why was i doing

00:28:51.340 but there's there was a guy on there who basically said that the bureaucracy exists to impede the

00:28:57.940 executive and in my head i'm like you just gave the game away right there you just said the bureaucracy

00:29:03.760 exists to impede the monarch that's what you just said and at no point do these people ever discuss i call

00:29:10.620 it the procedure and what i notice on television all i see is them discussing what should the state

00:29:17.120 be allowed to do not what is good policy not as what is good statecraft just like this person is

00:29:21.460 doing something that is illegal i'm like the reason why politics bores the shit out of me nowadays is

00:29:26.020 because everyone on television just discuss this and nothing else it's the reason why everyone is so

00:29:33.020 dull and boring because they don't know what good statesmanship looks like because it isn't discussed

00:29:37.320 anywhere all they discuss is the legalese but if you want to discuss what's good statecraft you have

00:29:43.140 to go back to previous century because we don't see it in our timeline so the the by the way when he

00:29:48.420 we talked about mulbug he's talking about curtis yarvin who's been on the show before a friend yeah

00:29:52.540 great guy we should have him back on i sent you an email telling you to ask him back on simone yeah

00:29:56.620 i wanted to ask how you prevent like this is my fear around monarchies and why i've generally been

00:30:02.780 more antagonistic to them is you end up like what you had with the roman empire where you can get

00:30:08.600 like truly atrocious monarchs that are purely self-interested when you look at like even i'd

00:30:15.220 say average monarchs of the imperial period of the roman empire what are your thoughts on how you deal

00:30:20.620 with that i don't actually think you can i think that's just a function of history and you just have

00:30:27.020 to weather the storm because like this is someone this is a common question that you always get asked is

00:30:31.260 what do you do when the corruption gets too hot and in our timeline the corruption is not touched

00:30:37.820 through the democratic process it just grows indefinitely behind the scenes you're just changing

00:30:41.780 the management but you're not changing any of the people that pull the strings so you make a surface

00:30:47.520 change but nothing actually changes and so you get to the point where you just invest a whole load of

00:30:54.360 money and time into this thing that inevitably steals and grows from you to the point where

00:30:59.040 we don't know how this ends in our timeline because we're not there yet and i fear the collapse comes

00:31:05.660 it's going to be really really bloody and gory and i eventually imagine bloodshed will arise at some

00:31:11.300 point i don't want it to go that way but i i think that is an inevitability because i don't see the

00:31:18.140 permanent bureaucratic class in our timeline willingly give up power yeah but i don't see them so i'm like

00:31:24.900 my take on this is and this is where i push back against stuff like well i mean there could be a

00:31:29.560 rebellion and i've talked to simone about this where i'm like she's like could there really be a

00:31:32.620 rebellion and we and i'm like well all you need for a real rebellion to happen in this country

00:31:38.360 is for one party to deny the election results of the other party no no no no i disagree point starving

00:31:45.280 people yeah people have to like literally create rebellion venezuelas have starving people for a long

00:31:50.380 time and they didn't get a rebellion things it is not on the ground no i think i think they're fed

00:31:56.880 they may not have electricity for days but they're in fact if you look at the british empire it was the

00:32:01.460 wealthiest parts that rebelled first ah yes jika chess has made that point that the aristocracy is

00:32:08.180 always anarchists they are that they do seem to be the most dangerous ones to be fair because the the

00:32:14.520 anarchists the the aristocratic class they have no interest in good government because they can always

00:32:18.440 believe they have money it's the poorest people that have the most interest in good government

00:32:21.420 because they don't have any other option which is probably why poor people like a strong executive

00:32:27.120 yes oh that's a really strong tie together here okay here's the question i have for you how do you

00:32:34.100 pull all this together so like when you look at like crashing fertility rates and what that's going

00:32:38.420 to do to like the global economic and tax system sort of how do you see what's your path to

00:32:43.020 chart forward into the future what's your hypothesis for your family for example oh good god so how would

00:32:48.940 i institute like basically how would you make traditional values cool i would say you know what

00:32:58.320 i think is honestly missing from not just the the right wing okay i'll use an example and i'm gonna

00:33:04.620 piss off a whole bunch of people saying this because this is sort of where i deviate and annoy a lot of

00:33:08.400 people is is take for example andrew tate okay andrew tate is a contentious figure because of what

00:33:14.880 he's done outside of it now my issue with him is i can listen to him and find him an interesting figure

00:33:20.480 despite what he's done because the way that i look at him is can he say something interesting and

00:33:24.980 thought-provoking and the answer is yes yeah yes and i can look at somebody and ignore the bad things

00:33:30.480 because i'm only looking for the good things like i can separate the art from the artist and this kind of

00:33:34.240 thing and what i what i fucking detest about so many people who claim to be right wing

00:33:40.600 is they look at people like that and they see a face and all they see is the villainous actions

00:33:46.580 and the thing that i want to tell these people do you understand that there's people like me

00:33:53.100 who don't care for the bad things because they're looking at him as a positive role model when all you

00:33:59.180 see is the bad you can't go to somebody else who sees the good and go stop listening to this people

00:34:05.680 because you are looking at the bad and you're trying to impose the bad on them and ignore the

00:34:10.020 good that he's done all you see is a face of evil because that's your morality and you can't just impose

00:34:16.760 that on somebody and shred the good that he's done because they're looking at you like why are you

00:34:21.360 imposing your evilness on me i've like this person did something good for me and you're chastising him

00:34:26.740 and making me feel like an asshole for it that doesn't work so what you need to do is you need

00:34:31.460 to prop up andrew wilson said this it's not enough to destroy somebody's worldview you have to replace

00:34:35.600 it with something yes absolutely right way the right wing does not have an answer to andrew tate's

00:34:40.960 popularity because andrew tate is a popular person for the material world and you and if you're trying

00:34:47.360 to impose traditional values you don't have you're trying to use a currency that is not currently in

00:34:53.880 circulation but we have to get people off that currency it's such a talk and the right wing

00:34:59.740 doesn't know how yeah yeah that's the biggest problem i think you point to something really

00:35:07.080 important here that i've seen really positive moves on which is the idea of cancellation prevents like

00:35:14.180 the sort of intellectual diversity you see with someone like andrew tate and jd vance has been the

00:35:18.820 biggest hero on this was big balls saying stuff you know racist against indians like within a year

00:35:24.980 right and and consider you know jd vance is married to an indian and has indian kids and jd vance was

00:35:30.120 like fuck off like rehired this guy like why why did you let him quit just because it came out that he

00:35:34.440 was a racist and i think that i remember that yeah that was based that was so base we need like as this

00:35:41.060 continues and i saw that as like a uh we had one of our fans reach out to us recently when they're like

00:35:46.360 actually like i had been like had trouble getting jobs in the corporate world for a long time and me

00:35:51.120 and my partner applied to jobs and like we were hired this year and like we were shocked and like

00:35:56.000 the the partner is working at like a university now and he's like like vulnerable young minds are

00:36:01.800 seeing his potentially conservative worldview and i think that that we're beginning to see a sea change

00:36:07.000 on this but we have to be really fastidious around like personally not allowing like cancellations

00:36:12.200 to prevent us from you know having people on and stuff like that i'm i'm not kind of surprised by

00:36:18.020 his his choice of of ladies because one thing that you kind of joke about all white supremacists don't

00:36:23.520 ask them the race of their girlfriends yeah yeah which is good because and people have asked me like

00:36:28.940 why is that a thing i said it was very simple because if you're the if you're the colonial empire

00:36:32.600 you colonize oh lord women no it's hold on this is the problem for black supremacists as well

00:36:38.700 go to the far left like look at any far lefty like racisty the politician like aoc or something like

00:36:46.240 that they all have white men yeah yeah well usually jewish white men too yes but like that's where the

00:36:52.340 power is and women are attracted to power like that's just like the one thing that annoys the crap

00:36:56.780 about modernity is there's so many things that is natural that we just ignore like yes there's there's

00:37:01.620 those that will go with the aryan princess and reproduce their children and then those are like

00:37:04.940 your genes are shit you must mate with better genes that's how they're wired people think that's like

00:37:09.380 a controversial thing to say but that is how they actually look at the world yeah whether you like

00:37:13.020 it or not you can say it's mimetic because it's it is funny but that's legitimately how they see things

00:37:17.360 we've we've created fucking insane ideas of what a racist is people will be like if you recognize

00:37:23.720 that there may be any sort of a difference between populations that have been genetically separated

00:37:30.400 for potentially thousands of years that makes you a racist and therefore a lot of people who are

00:37:37.200 quote-unquote like johnny anomaly who we really like you know he's married to like a south american

00:37:41.620 woman or or you know jd vance is married to an india these people don't have fucking problems with

00:37:46.580 different races like that's not the thing they're reading with them that's that's kind of a good

00:37:50.800 indication they're not yeah i thought there was the one thing where where the the left got mad at this

00:37:56.020 guy who had like black kids and like called him racist and he's like what are you talking about

00:38:00.520 yeah that's happened quite a few times that is a very common i will say i can kill the accusation

00:38:06.580 of racism and like a civilizational state in two paragraphs and just with like two questions the one

00:38:13.020 that i always like to go to is how is segregation and nation-state borders not the same thing if not scale

00:38:18.640 segregation and nation-state borders yeah i i guess i don't understand what do you mean by this

00:38:27.600 like yeah explain this in more detail i don't get it well let's see if you're segregating you're

00:38:32.460 suggesting that only a certain amount of people should enter a given territory the nation-state is

00:38:36.960 exactly the same thing it's just the the legal bounds to enter is different oh i see oh but i don't

00:38:42.920 know like i i always thought segregation was about only allowing a certain criteria people certain

00:38:48.100 criteria yes yes yeah exactly but it's still the use of force like you're born with your national

00:38:53.920 identity because of where you happen to be born it's complete chance simone yeah yes and it's

00:38:59.320 complete chance what like ethnic group you're born into okay that's okay that makes sense but you are

00:39:04.400 still prohibiting the entry into a certain territory through the use of force yeah which is what you do

00:39:09.580 in segregation as well and as far as that is concerned i would just say to say that to anybody because i know

00:39:15.140 i've noticed leftism loves blood and soil when it's native population except when it's europeans

00:39:19.320 then everyone else must be allowed to enter european territory it's funny how that one works yeah there's

00:39:23.000 no indigenous people's day in the united kingdom no no hold on hold on it's europeans or where they

00:39:28.800 really hate it if it's blood and soil jews i'm like one population in this world where they were

00:39:35.420 displaced by an imperial group they then took back their native land and are fighting to defend it

00:39:42.440 and you guys want them erased but i i would say say that i conquered a territory like any tribe or

00:39:50.740 whatever and somebody comes to me not of that tribe and says give me access to your land your people

00:39:58.220 your capital and its markets or else i will call you insert label x why should i listen to that person

00:40:04.640 and capitulate to their demands and grant them everything that's a a great point yeah no because it is

00:40:12.080 a lot of a capitulation and i think that the way this works within leftism is the intuitive belief

00:40:20.680 in the superiority of their culture by this what i mean is leftists believe they're like oh yes well

00:40:27.300 like these muslims may come to our country today and say that they want you know gay people should be

00:40:32.320 illegal and everything like that but eventually our cultural values will erase their own and what we have

00:40:38.340 seen is this belief in their superiority is as delusional as anything else they believe

00:40:45.880 anything else they believe but also you know a lot of the historic racists you know it's one of the

00:40:52.180 things i always joke is is you know you'll see in in certain populations where they'll be like oh

00:40:58.480 this is where you get like delusional racism when you start claiming like every historical figure was

00:41:02.640 actually part of your ethnic group like oh yeah the greeks were actually northern europeans

00:41:08.300 yeah i do like that it always makes me laugh because they also claim my history is evil

00:41:13.700 but you're also like one white people yes and it's like i so want to make fun of you all the day long

00:41:22.020 because there's just no consistency at all it's good stuff all right all right well i've had oh yeah

00:41:29.460 any path through this any path through this that you see for yourself uh you mentioned elevating

00:41:34.360 people like tate but like how do you how do you make this this cool ballerina farms is that it

00:41:40.540 oh dear god no i i would say it's one thing i don't like about like the christian worldview

00:41:47.260 is it's very specifically the protestant wing is it's very focused on forgiveness because that whole

00:41:54.560 like equality doctrine is very based on a sort of perverted christian perception of almost like the

00:42:01.580 white man's burden in a sense and i that just ignores all of reality i've heard a lot of people

00:42:07.660 just say oh look like it's our job to like civilize the world i'm like okay well you do realize

00:42:11.400 that okay that's kind of imperial which is kind of based i'm not gonna lie but you you also you also

00:42:19.160 want to tell people they should behave like you but you don't have any reason other than you're

00:42:24.460 telling them this is how they should behave and that's not how human beings work people don't like

00:42:27.780 it when other people tell them how to behave with no reason other than i told you so yeah when there's

00:42:32.040 no hold on they give them lots of money look at usa that's what it was all about yeah and considering

00:42:38.340 usa was given to my country and it hasn't made a dent in making people say and i'm not really a believer

00:42:42.960 in that money theory exactly though yeah so yeah it tends it what was it someone said recently

00:42:48.560 international aid is taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in

00:42:53.960 poor or giving it to rich people in poor countries that is so freaking accurate oh my gosh oh yeah

00:43:01.540 i actually had a conversation with a girl earlier today and she seemed to be more lefty-leaning i found

00:43:07.160 her like in a very right-wing so like you're an unusual person in a very right-wing place i i she

00:43:12.580 she's not stupid definitely not but she's she hasn't really examined her perceptions of the

00:43:17.540 world she was very adamant and researching to how she sees the world but i tried to tell her

00:43:22.180 this is a nice ideal but you have to look at the world for what it is not how you wish it to be

00:43:28.420 especially when it comes to people and that is something that i've noticed a lot of particularly

00:43:33.460 american right-wingers cling to with like immense fervor especially when it comes to the constitution

00:43:40.420 and there's a really good clip by you know judge andrew napolitano the name's familiar but we know

00:43:45.880 you guys should check him out so he had on lionel mation both sort of you know legal experts and he

00:43:52.100 lionel asked him is the the u.s constitution still valid and he gives a very interesting answer he says

00:43:57.580 it depends on how you look at it formally and functionally oh my gosh yeah he says formally it

00:44:03.040 still establishes you know three branches of government that is the law of the land you know

00:44:06.980 three branches of government the separation of powers yada yada but he says functionally it has

00:44:11.740 been an abysmal abysmal failure it has failed to restrain powers it has failed to balance like the

00:44:19.840 checks and balances don't work congress just passes whatever the hell they want they tax something and

00:44:24.260 he said the best way to sort of rewrite the ship is to appoint governments or appoint judges that will

00:44:31.020 chain the government down and at the end lionel says so the problem is isn't the constitution but

00:44:36.580 the constitution still works the problem is that isn't being followed and i thought it's kind of

00:44:41.980 weird to me that you suggest the way to fix this is to apply the constitution but also people don't

00:44:47.980 listen to it like that makes no sense to me people aren't listening to it now why would they listen to

00:44:53.200 it then right yes so i just like okay so you are admitting the document has failed because michael malice had a

00:44:59.500 good court he said if you think anyone in government now is going to listen to the whims of dead men from

00:45:03.900 250 years ago that is more utopian than communism like damn malice has a way of just like cutting

00:45:10.280 through the grain and just like hurting your soul like that's good that is very accurate and i've

00:45:15.280 noticed some of the americans that i've spoken to that i can sort of break free from this sort of spell

00:45:21.320 of constitutionalism is my god they start hating their own countrymen because they once they realize that oh

00:45:29.040 oh i can't unsee this and they come to me and go i can't speak to anybody else about this because

00:45:34.160 they all look at me like i'm insane like yeah if you can tell me how you fix that please tell me

00:45:38.560 because i don't know how to i don't know how to answer that question because i also look at these

00:45:42.460 people and go i'm gonna get hated for exposing the truth and then like the few that agree with me

00:45:47.060 going like yeah welcome to the club thanks for ruining us like i'm sorry about that not much i can do

00:45:52.040 that oh yeah not a nice perspective to tell people horrible truths about reality as both people

00:45:59.280 especially when it's i don't know like i think if you told that to young people who were just learning

00:46:04.400 about the formation of the united states they'd be like oh yeah this was it was always early draft

00:46:11.780 mode this was not no do you know what's really interesting about that now you mentioned that

00:46:15.420 because aiden is also american she's a monarchist and we were looking at perceptions of monarchy

00:46:20.220 across the demographics and it's really weird when you look at them across the united states and the

00:46:24.720 uk oh in the in the uk the younger people hate the monarchy but the older people have reverence for

00:46:30.620 which is understandable i mean they grew up in the elizabethan era so that's yeah whereas in the us

00:46:35.440 up to like 25 percent of gen z favor monarchy that makes sense really yeah that makes sense yes

00:46:42.980 like they there's like and it's the reverse for the older age obviously it's like the older people

00:46:47.820 like abhor monarchy because well you know they're older they're boomers whereas the younger generation

00:46:51.780 sort of look at the current i think it's because they just look at like their chances of actually

00:46:55.400 getting like a house is basically impossible for them so they look at well smaller government i i

00:47:01.580 i see the people like this this is the pitch i always tell americans do it and they always think

00:47:05.600 like huh i say to them think of trump if you gave trump complete control of the government

00:47:11.800 okay but say 90 of government is removed how much damage could he actually do when most of the

00:47:20.320 bureaucracy is gone and there's no taxes to pay for the shit yeah and they go huh i get to pay

00:47:25.740 significantly less tax and i can see the one person doing everything they're like that doesn't sound

00:47:31.260 so bad like yeah i can maybe get on board with that because the moment you appeal to their pocketbook

00:47:35.720 and like there's one person but they can't do much because the bureaucracy is gone yeah suddenly they

00:47:40.600 look at it like oh now my materialism is i pay less tax well it's kind of been like this since

00:47:45.100 the beginning too i mean even after we voted in our first president there was this huge struggle to

00:47:49.520 you know not have him you know your ancestors you're you're come on man just just just be the king can't

00:47:57.020 you just talk i've heard some people just say that you're like oh just washington why didn't you

00:48:02.060 just take the crown we can be done with this they were so ready for it they were like okay by the way

00:48:07.160 you are the descendant of one of george washington's siblings and yeah he's a great great great great

00:48:11.860 who would be of the monarchy family right now if it existed i would be in america dynasty yes or

00:48:19.080 duchess or something i would have married into a oh see yeah oh well what a what a jack ass he was

00:48:25.700 for not accepting it yeah it is it is really curious to me that there was 12 years when they had the

00:48:32.500 article of confederation and that's been totally airbrushed out of history right and nobody knows

00:48:37.940 much about america's first government like if you ask americans who was the first king they'd all say

00:48:41.300 oh george washington like no that wasn't the first king or the first the first president yeah it was

00:48:47.220 i can't remember his name now it was i think it was don't yeah it was that's because it's airbrushed

00:48:53.340 out of history like you've literally been brainwashed to not know this yeah and it was the president of

00:48:59.200 congress yeah i think he was the first one that was appointed and i think there was problem with

00:49:05.360 with with currency regulation was like one of the biggest ones about they just realized that okay this

00:49:09.880 this doesn't actually work there's too many com competitions around and you need the central figure

00:49:16.540 i remember them saying like yeah like oh but if we give birth to an executive this is going to be

00:49:21.120 like the fertile grounds of monarchy like oh yeah if only we can hope because you need the central

00:49:26.400 you need the sovereign you need the one person when everyone is fighting i remember i spoke to

00:49:31.060 this one girl and she's like very quite lefty leaning and she was in favor of co-ops and one day

00:49:36.860 she came to me and she said i'm kind of reconsidering your position and i said why is that and she said to me

00:49:42.800 well we have a bunch of people but they're all fighting like we just need one person to tell everyone

00:49:47.880 to shut up and what to do like yeah i wonder why that is yeah daddy needs to stand up and just be like

00:49:53.400 shut up we're doing this now like the amount of people who look at trump as like a father figure

00:49:58.660 when they're just like the meme was like oh look daddy's home and now you all have to behave like

00:50:03.940 do you realize all of you look at trump like he is a monarchical figure you look at him like the great

00:50:10.600 man and it's very different in the way milo used to call him daddy yes but it's it is curious to me that

00:50:18.440 if you ask most americans who's your local representative they have no idea yeah but if

00:50:24.320 you ask him who's in the white house everyone knows because the perception even with americans

00:50:29.060 is that that guy is actually in charge and he's the one that can like do anything through executive

00:50:33.880 orders and there's a service and he can but the the problem with that is is that congress is like

00:50:39.700 congress is a long-term fix for short-term problems and executive orders is supposed to be a long-term

00:50:47.120 fix for like really short-term gain yeah and that's you need to that needs to be in reverse but to get

00:50:54.040 people in congress to do things in the long term especially when they're there for yes yeah because

00:50:58.880 they're not interested in governing the nation through long terms because there's no benefit to

00:51:03.420 them when they leave office like they're there for short-term stints to basically loot the place and

00:51:08.440 then get the hell out exactly people you have to think of voting as garbage collection day

00:51:14.940 as in while they're in office they can pile on as much corruption as humanly possible and the

00:51:19.880 little speech is like oh look we can just short-term and the garbage goes out disappears supposedly but

00:51:25.620 it goes into a landfill and then just the whole process starts all over again and this this this

00:51:29.900 little button reset button that basically stops you from killing politicians there's no physical

00:51:34.020 repercussions like you don't hold the politicians to account ever and that's how the bureaucracy goes

00:51:39.260 i'm like do you realize voting benefits the elites more than it benefits you you get the veneer of

00:51:45.180 being in control while somebody else props them on the ballot and which is what they're beholden to

00:51:48.360 and you don't actually your process is just like yay or nay and that's really it yeah well and i mean not

00:51:54.080 not to mention even that in the united states it was never supposed to be direct as it is now

00:51:59.320 that this thing was a huge mistake your founding fathers were violently opposed to democracy for

00:52:04.500 of these reasons they were they were yeah for very good reasons i mean first they were like

00:52:08.000 hamilton is like crazy when it comes to democracy like jeez hamilton yeah no it's we like him he's a

00:52:13.640 he's i remember bolbach said like he was america's first monarch because he's the one who really

00:52:17.900 run the treasury and ran it like a proper executive like washington is the face but like the brains of

00:52:23.680 the operations like hamilton is really running the show oh interesting yeah the original elon

00:52:29.660 the original yeah yeah sort of in a sense and and but you know all of these people have kind of

00:52:34.740 shady ass backgrounds especially like especially when it comes to sex like my god like blackmail

00:52:39.940 in the government i imagine i think it was someone had said like the way that china's bureaucracy gets

00:52:45.660 any rank is they need to do some shady shit to like advance which is why they're all like ruthlessly

00:52:50.300 they have dirt on each other yeah so basically the reason why it's all like militantly organized is

00:52:55.060 because they can't step out of bounds because they know they'll get screwed if they try where we

00:53:00.220 explore how you know pdf files ever became like this is one of the crazy things when we talk about

00:53:06.280 like conspiracies in the u.s there was a conspiracy that there was a cabal of pda files who controlled

00:53:14.740 reins of power within our country or had a great deal of power within our country and then we found out

00:53:19.220 that was real with epstein and now everyone is like well we got rid of epstein so it must be gone

00:53:25.820 now like that's a done thing yeah that's that's sort of like oh look we can just depose the head

00:53:31.220 of the mob and like no he's got like capos and a whole bunch of henchmen underneath him like the way

00:53:36.040 to topple the hierarchy is to start from the freaking bottom until he's alone it's it's not by just

00:53:41.040 capping off the head of the hydra because then the hydra grows another head so what someone on my podcast

00:53:45.600 suggested something interesting they said that the reason they're not releasing epstein files is

00:53:49.120 because the people in government trump can use them to leverage them and get what he wants

00:53:53.300 oh that's a fun take i don't think trump's doing that i just figured he was based enough to actually

00:53:59.000 do that but i don't think it's within him to be that kind of cutthroat yeah honestly he's a nice

00:54:03.360 person like he doesn't he he wants to he doesn't want people to hurt or suffer he that's that's one

00:54:09.760 thing that's his kind of detriment is that i think trump is actually too nice too i don't think he is

00:54:15.320 this like ruthless cut road asshole that everyone thinks like i've something i thought was very

00:54:20.080 interesting is i've seen like the left try to mean trump and they always make him sound way more

00:54:25.680 dangerously based than he actually is i'm like can you just give me the trump that the leftists think

00:54:30.540 he is it would be fantastic it should be more but i said to a friend of mine there is a there is a reason

00:54:37.380 why they're like that why they look at him as this great evil it's because it triggers a response

00:54:43.020 mechanism if he is not this horrible evil person then it induces complacency

00:54:47.480 they need to him to be this radical figure because if they realize oh my god he's not actually gonna

00:54:54.200 like take away my right to kill my own child and this kind of crazy shit he's just like a regular

00:54:58.600 the 1990s american democratic dude because if they realize that then they might not radicalize and

00:55:05.140 they might actually become right-wing and therefore that would thin their ranks

00:55:08.400 so there's functionality in their absurdity 100 all right all right well we can't have the episode

00:55:16.880 go on forever so we gotta stop we will let you go also it's so late so thank you so much for coming

00:55:21.040 on it's actually only 7 30 here that's you don't understand that's like when we're asleep

00:55:26.460 oh do you are you like really early bird rises yeah we are i try to wake up at around two every day

00:55:32.480 yeah so how do you how do you function wait are you in the uk right now yes how you are in the uk

00:55:41.040 yes yes i mean yeah i'm in greenish i am i i am are you thinking about a movie like most of the

00:55:48.660 people i know in the uk are looking at getting out at this point well my family wants to go back to

00:55:53.100 south africa and that's probably not fun no well they said to me like do you want to go home and i

00:55:59.540 looked at them like well i don't have any other family here and if i go back home they said to me

00:56:05.340 well you can stay like here close to us because basically my my aunt and uncle are rather well off

00:56:10.540 and they have like a guest house and they said well you can stay there and i saw the guest house

00:56:14.800 because i hadn't it's kind of weird the last time they showed it it was like 2010 google and it wasn't

00:56:20.540 completed yet it's still in process mode and i saw it recently because it got updated we're like

00:56:25.460 that's where you want me to stay and it's like a stone's away from a beach oh and probably like

00:56:30.480 more safer area when i i don't actually oppose this look you can back up generators in the uk right

00:56:37.280 now like one of the lotus eaters right they got pulled over by like the passport control or

00:56:41.080 something right yeah calendared for terrorist activities which is like oh good heavens

00:56:47.360 were you an ark by the way not as far as i'm aware no okay there's a recent conference they

00:56:56.120 had there that a lot of the lotus eaters guys were at but anyway yeah so they i was so afraid of being

00:57:00.120 like passport pulled over like i'm like the uk is getting scary man yeah i would rather be in

00:57:05.580 africa than the uk that's saving a lot that's that's okay i don't know if you heard but trump's

00:57:12.820 administration is like letting people in for visas from south africa as like i will i will say because

00:57:19.920 i i sort of see a lot of crazy shit in south africa from like my twitter feed and a lot of it involves

00:57:26.240 julius malema and to the people who have this perspective can i just say this julius malema in

00:57:32.220 south africa's politics is like aoc to you oh he has no institutional power okay and he never will

00:57:38.560 he's he's the crazy person that says insane shit to be relevant to be fair like our only experience

00:57:45.420 of south africa was like just going through the townships outside of johannesburg so we probably

00:57:50.240 don't have oh okay okay yeah so you saw like the roughest of it yeah yeah yeah like my shit let's

00:57:56.740 go yeah yeah there's a thing of like basically the whiter the air the safer it is which is reality

00:58:03.280 yeah no no like what we use to just what when we try to explain to people how demographic collapse

00:58:08.760 is going to play out we're like just look at south africa like yes they're they're they're going

00:58:12.880 to be walled gardens that are incredibly nice and that's where all the wealthy people with resources

00:58:17.300 are going to go and then there's going to be the townships and that's where everyone who is not

00:58:21.800 wealthy and resource is going to be you're going to have brownouts you're going to have blackouts

00:58:25.000 you're going to have crime you're going to have grapes and that's what it's going to be i will say

00:58:28.900 it's it's it's so that it's kind of a weird place because we essentially have three capital cities

00:58:33.640 which is quite strange that like have uh as far as i'm aware like keep in mind i left south africa

00:58:39.340 as a child when i was about just on the verge of 11 years old okay so like my if i were to go home now

00:58:48.140 and describe politics like it's very difficult for me and we also have a rule don't discuss politics

00:58:52.860 with people who are not south african because they don't understand the reality of demographics and like

00:58:58.080 like everything is like what what do you think like an actual south african thing is like yeah

00:59:02.000 all of that and way more based than any americans that's what we gathered when we were there we're

00:59:07.800 like okay yeah things in south africa is it a lot of people are like oh it's like white people versus

00:59:12.960 black people and it's like that's not really the way south africa is each other and the tribes will

00:59:18.600 fuck each other even before they care about if you get one one tribe elected to power like okay let's

00:59:24.240 loot from all the other tribes yeah that's that's it's like how any civilization works so africa is

00:59:29.860 not unique it's just unique in our timeline but if you look at it from like historical perspective

00:59:34.880 like if i tell people this if you look at how south africa's demographics came about

00:59:39.800 the south africans the africaners who are native of that land they've been there since 1652

00:59:45.680 it predates the american state wow i didn't realize it was 1600s that is yes it's really really old

00:59:53.380 to put that in context you know how now we're all oh my gosh i can't believe the jews would

00:59:59.340 displace the historic muslims who lived in israel well israel only became the place we call israel

01:00:06.120 today muslim majority in the 12th century so not that much earlier than this group moved to africa

01:00:13.560 we do have to this is long at this point so i'm sorry i'm sorry it's but it's so fun talking with

01:00:19.740 the spoon thank you so much for coming on great how did you guys actually discover my channel

01:00:24.620 i watched aiden's channel first i i then watched some of your content with her i then watched some

01:00:30.360 of your content okay i'm gonna say i'll go for me oh my goodness yeah youtube is actually quite nice

01:00:35.740 to me which is bizarre because i've been told like you say a lot of spicy things but youtube tends to

01:00:39.840 recommend me for some i think it just it just assumes you know it hears your it you know it must it must

01:00:44.500 process your accent and be like oh yes i noticed you notice that youtube has started suppressing i

01:00:50.340 we recently did in an episode and there were two lowest episodes and i think youtube is suppressing

01:00:54.540 both topics yeah you might want to rephrase it yeah okay i won't say anti i'd say an issue related

01:01:03.240 to the gender people contemplating the rainbow hippies yes the rainbow hippies yeah actually i i have a

01:01:11.360 question for you because it's pretty interesting when i look at you you are really much in like

01:01:16.860 the social circle of i think like the old youtube conservative group or or like like questioning woke

01:01:25.040 group do you know when we talk about things like aporia or johnny anomaly or commute you know who any of

01:01:30.920 these people are yeah some of the names do do surface okay so you do know you're on you're on x way more

01:01:36.900 than we are i think uh yeah i i'm mainly i'm gonna use x the shit post i've i've i've had some people

01:01:43.960 like come to me especially women and say to me like you're very aggressive with how you are with women

01:01:49.580 and my immediate response is have you seen my content like yes i i am very much against like any

01:01:57.000 people voting and i don't think women should have a say in politics i'm very vocal about that i will

01:02:00.660 openly say that i don't care who gets offended the thing of it is that i find very fascinating about that

01:02:04.860 is the women who are traditional are more traditional than the men oh yeah people don't

01:02:12.900 know this but during suffrage in the united states the primary anti-suffrage group was women yeah dude

01:02:20.080 yeah yeah and i i said to them as well like if you look at my audience and my timeline i always tell

01:02:28.100 people what irks me it's not just like i hate women today and then just like ramble like no no i will

01:02:33.620 give you an example of this thing that is currently pissing me off and when it comes to like women it

01:02:37.480 was probably a woman who dm to me in the first place right because they come to me and go spoon

01:02:41.940 look at the stupid shit that my sex is doing yell at them yeah they're they're the police they're the

01:02:47.860 yeah yeah because i i tell guys i tell guys this like be the guy that can openly talk about women in

01:02:55.480 like in a bashfully well in modern day sexist kind of ways because women cannot talk about other

01:03:01.640 women to women because it just escalates into a fight so they will go to a guy and say this is

01:03:07.160 this stupid shit my sex is doing i know this annoys you as well it's one of the one of the few times

01:03:10.760 because i know women has this tendency of don't actually solve my problem just listen oh no no yeah

01:03:17.140 but there's a bigger problem of like the guys who are feminists are always the worst guys to women

01:03:23.220 recently you know like ubisoft that put out like you know this one where they they have the johnny

01:03:29.500 somalia simulator where you go around as a black guy and kill a random phrase by the way

01:03:33.620 you know great i heard that as soon as i heard johnny somali simulator i was like that's brilliant

01:03:38.780 actually that's what this game is but anyway so they're now in a lawsuit in france and the things

01:03:45.040 that their executives were doing to employees are horrifying yeah play porn so loud everyone in the

01:03:52.560 office could hear it and he made a woman do a handstand so he could see her skirt in front of the

01:03:57.720 entire office and then at another time he had other employees hold down a woman so we could kiss

01:04:03.320 her at a party like when somebody's doing feminist shit this is the shit they're doing behind closed

01:04:08.800 doors that sounds about right yeah well malcolm you found the solution you you you didn't marry a woman

01:04:14.160 you married an autist and that is the only safe way yeah but the the point i was trying to make is that

01:04:19.980 this is one of the few times where you can actually listen to a woman explain her problems because the

01:04:24.080 issue that is is not one that can be solved the issue is just like her own annoyance at her own sex

01:04:28.140 yeah so that's one of the things that you can listen to and like sympathize with because i can

01:04:32.480 guarantee you what annoys her also annoys you and you'll become friends because the one thing is mutual

01:04:36.940 hatred yeah and there's nothing nothing that can be done about it so yes there's no solution that

01:04:42.100 you're like dying to present yes but they just want you to say can like can just that must be so

01:04:48.000 frustrating i'm so sorry tell me more how did that make you feel yeah yes i have i have one female

01:04:54.400 friend when she streams with other streamers like when they're women she just like messaged me like

01:04:58.500 oh my god these women are annoying the crap out of me and then she comes and streams with me

01:05:01.800 streaming is a woman right yes i know and i also have another girl that i stream with on rumble

01:05:08.260 vex electronica it's a bit of a different stream with aiden because aiden is very prim and proper and she

01:05:13.540 like organizes everything ruthlessly and vex just messaged me and goes i'm annoyed let's stream

01:05:17.940 and then we just make five hours disappear with no prep at all yeah so it's just like a rambling

01:05:23.280 and we yes yeah because we get to say gamer words and just like this is the dumb shit that is currently

01:05:27.180 wrong with the world especially culturally because we are there's a lot of sort of like cultural anti-woke

01:05:32.060 people that we don't like because they're they're just liberals yeah they're just disgruntled with

01:05:37.100 liberals that went too far in the slippery slope and they don't know how to pull it back other than

01:05:40.140 just yelling interesting but i'm trying to do a better job like myself because earlier asking like how

01:05:44.920 we found you if connecting with other conservative streamers one of the things we've been looking at

01:05:49.520 doing forever we've talked with the heritage foundation about doing this when we get together

01:05:52.540 we should talk about putting the first steps into the simone is putting together a conference to

01:05:57.320 connect conservative influencers with conservative policymakers yeah yes i think the problem though is

01:06:03.260 is again dispoons repeated references what would ever incentivize a conservative lawmaker

01:06:10.120 to do anything it isn't in their immediate best finance the heritage foundation are good guys who

01:06:15.620 want to make the world a better place the heritage yeah heritage but they are not themselves the

01:06:19.060 policymakers they have to find ways to connect the short-term and often financial incentives of

01:06:24.280 the policymakers the policy long-term best interest affect elections the democrats have been using the

01:06:30.480 influencer class to affect elections for ages without any reciprocation at the very least we can try to

01:06:37.240 create some reciprocation where the influencers can affect policy yeah i i would say the sort the sort

01:06:43.840 of the real problem with appealing to a right-wing base is that is it's it's very cruel like right-wing

01:06:53.040 politics like left-wing politics is very fairytale and idealistic and that's why it appeals to women

01:06:57.140 whereas the right-wing sort of chad aggressiveness really appeals to men but like that worldview is very

01:07:05.180 difficult to sell to men right now because it is more than just materialism i'm gonna disagree here

01:07:10.240 every right-wing conference and you know i go to a lot of right-wing events and one of the funny

01:07:14.360 things is whenever i meet somebody who used to go to left-wing events and now they go to right-wing

01:07:17.900 conferences and they're like oh my god everyone is so nice and accepting at right-wing yes that's true

01:07:21.880 and everyone at the left-wing conferences was so judgy and hateful i didn't know there's a spectrum

01:07:27.580 so the the old guard conservative right-wing conferences feels very clicky and very like

01:07:33.940 yes not quite right um and then the like farthest farthest farthest left american ones are like

01:07:41.080 hey come here i need to tell you my conspiracy theory i i'm a sovereign citizen and here's how

01:07:45.440 it works and you should never pay your taxes i'm like these aren't the lefty right-wing conferences

01:07:49.220 these are the more right-wing the more right-wing it is like the more open it is yeah the more

01:07:53.640 welcoming it is yeah yeah and it's so funny these people i'm talking about who are like lefties

01:07:57.260 i don't mean like normal lefties i mean like obvious trans people they'll be like oh yeah

01:08:01.660 the right-wing conferences have been so much nicer than the left-wing yeah but they they i think yeah

01:08:06.120 i think they enjoy hanging out at the the right there was a there was a point that i saw someone say

01:08:11.040 that it was interesting they said like the right wing is full of gay is straight people they're

01:08:16.580 actually gay whereas the left-wing people are all straight people pretending to be gay it's funny

01:08:23.040 that is so freaking accurate like holy shit i know so many people who fit this paradigm like

01:08:28.120 it's not even funny copulation that's a strategy in animals where you pretend to be the other gender

01:08:32.800 to force but it disturbs me like why is that a thing with the right because i've noticed there's a lot

01:08:38.900 of like there is there is sexual degeneracy in the right wing it's like when i look at some of the

01:08:44.600 people because i know some of them behind the scenes no it's only degeneracy because it's on the

01:08:47.940 right wing it would just be normalcy if it were on the left wing yeah ooh okay i never grew up on

01:08:55.300 the hard left so i know this so so i recently was at a heritage foundation conference and this was on

01:09:00.380 like gender being realistic about gender issues and it was so funny the conference was like i'd say

01:09:07.860 25 lesbians and people at this is the heritage foundation and lesbians at the conference

01:09:15.340 joked that this was the main lesbian dating event of the year because it was the only place they

01:09:22.840 could go where it was still all real women oh no can i read something interesting this is a

01:09:29.140 i actually because a while ago grok 3 came out on twitter it's so good it's amazing yes and yet it

01:09:36.260 said it had some better views so i threw it a curveball i said to them can you give a cultural

01:09:40.960 critique that you would employ to persuade women to give up the right to vote okay and its answer

01:09:48.000 was really really good okay it said it said okay let's dive into this with a thought experiment i'm

01:09:54.800 assuming you're looking for provocative cultural critique and not literal policy proposal i'll

01:09:59.760 channel a mix of historical perspective social theory and a dash of contrarian flair to craft an

01:10:04.060 argument sounds like me actually here's how it might go imagine a cultural critique rooted in the

01:10:09.500 idea of modern democracy with its obsession and over individual rights has eroded something deeper

01:10:15.360 communal harmony and natural division of labor that once held societies together you could argue that

01:10:21.060 voting as a symbol of atomized power pulls women away from a more primal influential role the stewards

01:10:27.520 of family and culture the pitch might lean on a romanticized pass think pre-industrial tribes or even

01:10:33.600 victorian ideals where women's authority wasn't diluted by a ballot box but concentrated in the home

01:10:39.560 shaping the next generation's values directly the critique would borrow from thinkers like rousseau who

01:10:44.920 saw excessive individualism as a societal rot and twisted women's suffrage while solace empowerment

01:10:50.660 actually traps them in a masculine game of power struggles and abstract debates disconnecting them from

01:10:57.100 their supposed true strength nurturing intuition and moral grounding at a modern swipe the chaos

01:11:02.760 expose and 24 7 news cycles shows how voting fuels division not unity and women as the civilizing force

01:11:09.480 might reclaim their influence by rejecting the circus altogether to persuade you'd frame it as liberation not

01:11:16.580 loss ditching the vote isn't subjugation but a bold opt-out from a broken system a return to a sphere

01:11:22.900 where influence isn't diluted by partisan noise it's a hard sell obviously but i would lean heavily on

01:11:28.920 nostalgia and gender essentialism which plenty would call out as bunk but that is the cultural angle

01:11:34.020 dialed up to 11. okay i love it no no no no it's it's there that's it i mean between the four b's

01:11:41.400 movement and trad wives and stay-at-home girlfriends this is very much something that appeals to all ends of

01:11:48.020 the political spectrum but hold on i want to read something that was posted in our discord in relation

01:11:53.860 to this topic that i found really compelling and i'm just doing the discord by the way because modern

01:11:58.740 feminism is a movement that serves the male sexual imperative it tells women that we should accept a

01:12:04.620 man fornicating with us with no commitment if we say no he will go watch porn of women being beaten

01:12:10.800 and trafficked and demeaned if we say yes he will demand that we mess up our body and hormone cycle

01:12:16.620 with a pill if the pill doesn't work he won't support us and authority figures will encourage an abortion

01:12:22.760 no wonder so many women are rabidly abortionists when the alternative is grim for them which will

01:12:28.080 traumatize you if we date he will eventually have you move in and perform domestic labor while having

01:12:34.180 you pay rent and not giving you the benefits of marriage and if you marry you will bear children

01:12:39.640 while working full-time and doing most of the housework basically the feminist movements are

01:12:44.940 huge simps for chad and then wind up unhappy and miserable if they have children at all

01:12:50.160 i mean i don't agree with all that but that's compelling i don't think any of that is true

01:12:56.700 you don't know about feminists oh okay it's okay whenever i hear feminist in the word marriage it's

01:13:05.140 it doesn't make any sense to me it's like beer and ice and i'm going to get it i am a feminist right

01:13:11.360 and and because i'm a feminist while my wife does the housework she also makes the family's money

01:13:17.860 it's empowering it's empowering i'm a feminist yes right but like they they i kind of want to say

01:13:27.340 to them like what do you to those women what do they think their role in society actually is because

01:13:31.980 a friend of mine said something horribly said to me like women's only value is basically sex if

01:13:36.280 you strip that away like everything else can be done better by men well making babies it's not sex

01:13:41.900 it's it's childbearing yes but that is directly related to sex i mean i'm not necessarily there

01:13:48.960 are ways i would say but that but that is that is their role in basically human civilization is to

01:13:55.800 reproduce nice offspring yeah no no we we are the we are the agar we are the stable substrate of

01:14:01.500 civilization and men are the high risk high reward disposable propagators of good software updates

01:14:08.360 yeah thank you for causing us disposable that's very kind of you welcome yeah yeah thank you yeah

01:14:13.660 i called me a stable agar all right it's it's fine but there's there's utility and stability so that's

01:14:19.360 kind of thing where it's like there's utility in pushing a software update okay it's just that only

01:14:23.260 the good software updates get pushed i wouldn't i would say it's only compatible hardware that can

01:14:28.540 receive the good software that's kind of my comeback shot you really don't need to write your

01:14:37.160 stuff man it's it's there this is this is a good intro okay anyway i have i have used that argument

01:14:44.780 for a lot of the things that i think is i think it's because book writes like everything is a computer

01:14:50.200 program and because i'm a guy and i also have this like input process output function whenever i

01:14:55.860 analyze things i kind of like that so i said to people the way that the globalists look at human

01:15:01.760 beings they look at them like they're pieces of software that just or a hardware that can be

01:15:05.600 updated i'm like sure that's not how humans work they're not just hey look here's just a hardware

01:15:10.860 that can be updated like if you ever work with an actual computer you can't just upload any software

01:15:14.440 to the hardware especially if it's old this is true with a computer you can throw it away you can

01:15:18.060 upgrade the hardware but not all hardware upgrades are compatible and that's where you're running

01:15:23.040 the freaking problems like hey look we're gonna make it like a freaking pentium 2 run windows 11

01:15:27.400 like no you're not that's that's not gonna work so good luck with that i actually wrote a bit about

01:15:35.380 free speech using that and i'm curious how it's gonna go because i i said a horrible thing with

01:15:41.960 regards to free speech that is gonna make free speech has explode i tried to frame it as an argument

01:15:46.640 that free speech is not just like speech it's actually like a consumable oh yeah that's interesting

01:15:55.120 that's fair yes in the sense of in the real world if you look at something like drugs and alcohol that

01:16:00.420 is regulated because it can alter behavior yeah sure and i said speech has the same effect it can also

01:16:07.160 radically alter people's behavior and make them believe insane things like trans people are real which is

01:16:12.060 not fucking true and the other argument that i have is that speech is not information in isolation

01:16:19.620 it needs a base where those ideas will actually gel and the argument from free speech absolutist is that

01:16:28.400 the way to beat bad speech is more speech and i fundamentally disagree with that because it's not true

01:16:36.760 in fact the way that i characterized it and i will i will basically power through this because i think

01:16:42.680 this is probably the smartest thing that i've ever said is that the idea that the best way to

01:16:48.760 compare bad speech is with better speech is like saying the antidote to fat people is better food

01:16:52.640 you have to understand why they eat the bad food it's not better food doesn't exist it is that they

01:17:00.880 want the bad food because it makes them feel better it is not an issue being factually correct it

01:17:06.660 is about an emotional appeal that makes sense yeah that is a difficult thing to sell to people that

01:17:14.180 is like hey look you can have like on the one end you can have broccoli and steak or whatever and

01:17:18.180 that's really good but other than that is pizza and pizza is a hell of a lot better than the former

01:17:21.700 unless you're me who eats it every damn day pizza literally every single day oh what are we having

01:17:31.020 it has all the food groups i've got a surprise for you actually tonight let's just say it has

01:17:36.840 something to do with my dubious heritage your devious is it my dubious heritage yeah no jewish

01:17:42.900 you'll find out uh don't look all right all right we'll see it's good to have you on and have a

01:17:49.580 spectacular day yes this was a pleasure you are so clever so fun and everyone definitely make sure

01:17:56.140 what are you doing okay sorry okay bye bye bye i'm hitting in recording i'm hitting record now and

01:18:05.180 we can throw this at the end but yeah i know i'm sorry i have to talk what what are they thinking like

01:18:09.800 why intentionally be an asshole when you're trying to get support we were talking about the ddos attack

01:18:15.460 by ukraine on on x well allegedly you know still not confirmed oh yeah the left is pretending like

01:18:21.980 that's that's what elon musk said is is it appears to be ukraine related so yeah no he's got some good

01:18:29.820 social capital to believe i suppose i imagine his information sources are pretty good so yes

01:18:36.120 considering he is working with this the state so yeah yeah and elon musk allegedly is a lot more value

01:18:43.580 you see trump is buying a tesla tomorrow and is telling all his supporters to buy them to support

01:18:48.540 elon a cyber truck that's so sweet oh i hope it's a gold cyber truck because otherwise

01:18:55.440 oh wow i thought that was really sweet of trump to do for elon you know it shows a lot of support from

01:19:00.760 him yeah and i think one of the benefits of this like recent slew of elon attacks has been that it has

01:19:08.280 made specifically trump incredibly sympathetic to elon and i think a lot of trump's inner circle who maybe

01:19:15.400 previously would have been more cold on elon better understand you know just how much he's taking for

01:19:21.860 this um which further embeds him within the administration sort of loyalty department

01:19:30.720 yeah and there was the what i think you know we're also beginning to see sort of who the slimy

01:19:40.560 guys are like it was mark rubio who elon was dressing down and mark rubio was just being

01:19:45.400 completely like an a-hole elon was like you literally have fired no one and mark rubio apparently

01:19:51.320 reported you know shot back oh what about all those people that accepted layaways like those

01:19:56.380 thousand five hundred people like does that not count for the love and it's like obviously that

01:20:01.400 doesn't count you you what are you talking about that is what elon did that is what happened

01:20:05.940 automatically you were supposed to be doing something to make your own apartment more efficient

01:20:10.560 as well like everyone else yeah as if he was like exempt from it for literally the lowest effort

01:20:18.120 option meant that he did anything so well yeah that he didn't actively fight other people helping him

01:20:25.840 you know my little brother is on doge now so that's really cool so he's hopefully going to go in

01:20:32.020 fix all of this but it i think showed that that rubio has no future in the republican party where

01:20:39.140 it's going that he would resist the efforts of doge is just you know this is something that's like not

01:20:45.860 just a republican winner but has like 70 percent like broad approval among americans like it shows a

01:20:51.060 complete alliance with deep state slime over you know the american people which i guess i should have

01:20:58.980 guessed like mark rubio does have a face that sort of looks like deep state ally type do you get that

01:21:06.820 impression when you look at him like if i went to like a bureaucrat party i'd expect him to be like

01:21:12.500 king bureaucrat yeah yeah i wonder what i come off as to people because people say like i code

01:21:21.700 specific ways i don't think it's as a generic lefty but certainly not conservative like they see it

01:21:27.620 they say you code like a dominatrix librarian yeah which i mean we we typically hear soy boy with you

01:21:37.380 but which is like that's the most common word that is a common word and it's it's like obviously

01:21:43.540 non-descriptive because i have you know fairly defined cheekbones jaw everything like that so i don't

01:21:49.380 know i don't i think soy is is not a physiology thing exclusively it's i really don't know i really

01:21:59.540 don't know maybe it has to do with your voice too because you don't have a deep booming voice

01:22:05.700 kind of how with the animatronic abraham lincoln that well they made his voice deeper they intentionally

01:22:12.020 changed his voice they had a historically inaccurate voice because lincoln too did not have a low booming

01:22:17.860 voice and therefore oh by the way on the on the episode on gay conversion stuff i don't know if

01:22:23.300 you saw the title i came up with i love your title and i am excited which is just electrocuting gay

01:22:28.500 people turn them straight we have to at least try this is gonna be the episode's actually pretty good

01:22:34.900 prepped because i went into it like ai was like really resistant to say that any of it might work and

01:22:41.700 so and obviously like i'm not gonna trust if there's like a bunch of studies saying it doesn't work

01:22:45.300 because you know you'd lose your job if you said it didn't work so i decided to try to understand

01:22:51.300 better when the specific types of treatment that they're using within conversion therapy were used

01:22:58.020 in other aspects of psychology like um for phobias and stuff like that did they work and the answer is

01:23:04.260 broadly no like most of the stuff used in conversion therapy does not appear to work it's not that there

01:23:09.460 are like nothing would work i i suspect some medication stuff aimed at reducing libido would

01:23:16.340 be fairly effective but you cannot create arousal where previously none existed for sure all of our

01:23:22.900 understanding of sexuality yeah so yeah like you can't give someone a foot fetish yeah you can't give

01:23:29.380 someone who doesn't have a foot fetish a foot fetish it's not contagious you can't catch gay you can't

01:23:34.820 catch straight doesn't work that way although i don't know though so here's where i'm like not so

01:23:40.740 sure because this whole issue when i worked at hub pages was what the moderation team referred to as

01:23:48.340 anti-porn like auntie like someone's aunt oh yeah yeah you mean the indian thing yeah it was like

01:23:55.460 normal indian women and i i mean normal because normally when you see a picture of an indian woman she is

01:24:01.300 a 10 out of 10 gorgeous woman this was like sixes fives right so so not an online like even mid person

01:24:10.260 yeah and it was things like armpits and that i was extremely culturally specific well i i i think

01:24:21.700 you know different cultures but there may be ethnically linked fetishes or ways of looking at things like if

01:24:28.740 if you're talking about people who present phenotypically so you just you think it's

01:24:33.780 genetic that just happens to be yeah for example does does japan have a higher prevalence of that

01:24:38.740 than other regions i would guess it probably does in terms of no no like you don't think that they

01:24:46.580 have a high really that would astonish me we've we've seen so much hentai at this point and also like

01:24:55.220 when i was in japan i collected as a teen i would collect all the little sex worker cards they had

01:25:00.820 like little sticky notes that they would put all over like rails of bridges and stuff so that like

01:25:04.980 you'd call them like you pick up it's like a business card but also sticky right but and like

01:25:09.460 none of them emphasized armpits and pictures that was not a silly thing how are you confused i said

01:25:14.980 phenotypically young i am trying not to say a word that gets this demonetized that no no obviously okay

01:25:21.220 okay okay so that that is a a greater tendency i don't know though in in japanese look it would be

01:25:28.020 weird if arousal patterns did not code into ethnic and regional groups that would be no i agree with

01:25:34.180 you on that but i think that being into really responding to youth sexually is a pretty universal

01:25:40.740 super stimuli that people okay but this indian thing i do not think is cultural i think it's genetic

01:25:47.380 you just think it's genetic so there is variation but you just don't think it's cultural yeah i don't

01:25:51.700 think it's cultural i could see that well i mean okay so what would be the argument here like let's

01:25:57.060 think through this okay okay if it was cultural yeah you wouldn't expect so many cross-cultural and

01:26:04.740 cross timelines wise unusual fetishes as i've pointed out typically if you can find an unusual fetish

01:26:11.620 today you can find it mentioned somewhere in a history book as well which we've gone into on on

01:26:16.340 some episodes there are except for ones that they maybe lacked the technology to create in the past

01:26:21.940 or something like that but generally speaking which implies to me that this is not a cultural phenomenon

01:26:28.420 even though people believed it to be the one like for example the one instance where there was a belief

01:26:33.220 that i'm thinking of even historically in cultural fetishes was the english vice was the idea that english

01:26:39.940 liked being spanked because they were exposed to it like in their school system and so you know

01:26:46.820 getting spanked with a paddle was like more common that i wouldn't say is cultural that i would say is

01:26:52.660 exposure potentially alerting them of a fetish they may have that other people don't have but i i i

01:26:59.220 so i think that you know you have some cultural like exposure like i you know but i'm exposed to normal

01:27:04.820 looking women in like armpits and like navel i would know that was arousing to me well i don't think

01:27:11.460 i've never seen belly buttons actually so but changing what arouses you i just think is incredibly

01:27:18.260 difficult or or making a new thing arouse you that doesn't previously arouse no i agree i agree in fact

01:27:26.420 i've never heard of somebody being like really grossed out by something and then later it becoming one of

01:27:32.740 their fetishes um like a sign flip like a sign flip in like adult life i've never heard of that

01:27:40.500 i haven't either though i do wonder if the sexual proclivities of the guy who had a rod shot through

01:27:49.140 his head like phineas gage yeah because phineas gage had a lot of personality shifts i wonder if his

01:27:55.380 sexuality was also apparently he became much more sexually aggressive after that yeah but that's that

01:28:00.500 could just be grouped with overall aggression you know like maybe the the sexual urges or worse

01:28:06.340 um inhibition centers exactly yes i don't i don't see that as as compelling

01:28:12.900 but i don't know phineas gage what a name too it sounds like a very steampunk name if you had to just

01:28:21.540 think of a steampunk name you'd be like off of phineas gage i like that too yeah yeah just have to choose

01:28:28.020 it not even knowing who he was goodness gracious what else did you learn anything today what have i

01:28:36.900 learned oh i've been working with emma waters on finding points of contact to reach out to

01:28:47.060 i will give you email drafts to review tomorrow morning for five people or so asking for 30 minutes

01:28:54.500 no one wrote some executive orders for the trump administration and we're trying to find people

01:28:57.620 to give them to well pronatalist org did i'm i'm pronatalist org did through you it's not like they

01:29:04.180 paid you no so you did i wish they did we don't accept money from our foundations right now we're like

01:29:10.740 super lean which you know whatever maybe maybe we won't be super lean forever but right now you know

01:29:16.740 it's a it's a one directional cash flow into the orgs we we give it money and work but yeah so i will

01:29:24.340 send you those email drafts to see if we can

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Post-Globalization Monarchist Philosophy： With the Aristocratic Utensil

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