Based Camp - Post-Racism： What Racism Means When Wokes Say Mixed-Race Relationships Are Bad

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be discussing a few topics

00:00:04.620 one is on how the far left have begun to attack and see interracial marriages and interracial

00:00:13.420 humans as an inherently racist concept the far left wait hold on i don't know if you know this

00:00:20.660 simone this happened a few years ago because it's one of the things we're going to be talking about

00:00:23.840 this but did you know that dnd no longer allows characters to create mixed race characters

00:00:30.620 wait so like an elf can't marry an orc or no such thing as half no so you can have a character that 0.84

00:00:35.820 is technically a half elf i.e their mom is an elf but the husband's a human okay but they can only

00:00:41.840 have the traits of either elves or humans they can't have the traits of both so basically you have to

00:00:47.300 choose one of your parents and that's your real ethnicity like this is considered less offensive

00:00:53.040 than being mixed race and we're going to be going over this incident that happened a few years ago

00:00:58.280 because i think it's actually interesting in that it explains the psychology of how they think race

00:01:03.080 mixing is okay and how they think it's not okay and we'll be going into quotes from famous democratic

00:01:07.940 politicians and media figures basically attacking the concept of mixed race marriages what and on top

00:01:15.960 of all that i think this is interesting to discuss not from a haha look at them they're the racist now

00:01:21.960 perspective like anybody who's saying knows that it's more interesting to study from sort of the

00:01:27.420 anthropological perspective of what is racism mean today to stain people what does it mean to democrats

00:01:36.860 where do we go societally and where are they going societally in terms of their understanding of race

00:01:43.140 and it's where i will be laying out a new concept which i would say is what we are which i call post

00:01:50.900 racist or if you want a longer term for it post scientific racist which is to say i think that

00:01:59.020 the way that we should relate to ethnicities and racial groups as a society um is to and this is what i

00:02:06.820 would say is the position of the post racist right uh rather than the anti-racist is to say that you

00:02:13.020 know there are differences between groups what those differences are might be hard to quantify but like

00:02:19.100 you shouldn't like re or freak out just because somebody's like this group is different from this

00:02:23.500 group because when you do you can lead to really systemic damage to some populations like for example

00:02:28.400 a lot of black women are completely unaware that they have i think it's 50 higher rate of pregnancy 0.94

00:02:34.040 complications and early pregnancy terminations than white women do and so they they don't take because 1.00

00:02:38.900 they they've been grown up and told you're biologically exactly like a white woman and so they don't

00:02:43.440 make and take this into account when they're planning their fertility window which is why when you're

00:02:47.540 looking at americans who are over the bottom i want to say like 20 percent of income blacks have the 0.67

00:02:53.540 lowest fertility rate because the the black people who like plan go to school everything like that 1.00

00:02:58.640 they they are unaware that their biology is going to make this harder for them than it is 0.90

00:03:03.980 and they're they're white and asian friends then you've got the the problem of so so we don't do

00:03:10.620 that but we accept our differences and we value our differences like humanity is good because we are

00:03:17.660 diverse and it is through that diversity that we can challenge things and learn from each other right

00:03:22.160 like our first thought both the wokes and the racist do this as we pointed out before is when they see a

00:03:27.560 group out competing them and i laid out this theory before but it's a very important theory to

00:03:31.700 understand when you're talking about differences between groups i.e uh this group has more money

00:03:39.220 or more political power or more success than this group there are only three explanations for that

00:03:44.860 one explanation is cultural differences one explanation is genetic differences and the other

00:03:50.920 explanation is they put some sort of something systemic into practice that basically cheats the system in

00:03:57.280 their favor and the problem is is that when you say that groups are not culturally different

00:04:02.260 and anybody who says that certainly believes groups are genetically different it means you assume all

00:04:07.100 differences are due to somebody cheating and you know this is as true when blm says that they've been

00:04:14.180 cheated by white populations as it is when white supremacists say that the jews cheated them you know

00:04:19.280 it's it's it's a toxic similarity between these two groups for sure the post-racist it says i won't fall 0.97

00:04:27.000 for that i will admit that some groups can create systemic biases in their favor as some of you talked

00:04:32.020 about you know like vietnamese nail salons and stuff like that cartels and that's patel motels etc yeah

00:04:38.200 yeah and that sometimes a society can even through slavery or something you know create dramatic

00:04:44.100 systemic advantages for certain groups but that it is important to focus on cultural differences

00:04:51.800 and eventually when it's within the realm of things we can control genetic differences just as much the

00:04:58.640 reason why we don't focus much on genetic differences right now is it's just not something you can do much

00:05:02.160 about so being aware that it exists is different and note here i have made no claims about differences

00:05:07.980 in say iq between ethnic groups we have never ever said that and we we won't say that but i want to go

00:05:16.500 into the dnd thing because i think it's interesting and then we're going to go into quotes this is so

00:05:19.940 crazy though just like the very premise that you've set out is so blowing my mind because i grew up

00:05:24.380 believing that racism was i hate this group or this group is bad and now i'm realizing that all the

00:05:31.640 racism that people are being accused of like within our social networks is how dare you

00:05:37.180 recognize genetic differences which is insane but then also the only groups i know of that are like

00:05:44.700 this group is evil are the ones saying are you ashamed of your white privilege yeah which is so

00:05:52.360 crazy we had somebody ask us that a couple days ago that's why this is top of mind okay go on though 0.83

00:05:57.780 this is this is just blowing my mind because i i had always thought that like the racism that you know

00:06:03.400 like the definition of racism is always like oh it hasn't changed but like man that it really has

00:06:10.120 changed and i think we need a new definition for whatever wokes are because i think you can just

00:06:14.620 call them racist but they're they're kind of something new that has the qualities that would

00:06:21.080 have been defined as racist in the 90s or whatever but of course they won't accept that label so what can

00:06:27.680 we call them i don't know you can think of some new term for this as we go through this other than just

00:06:32.080 chime in in the comments but wizards of the coast the company that publishes the official materials

00:06:36.740 of the role-playing game dungeons and dragons is planning to eliminate the half elf half orc 0.99

00:06:40.660 races in forthcoming editions they say the half elf construct is inherently racist according to game

00:06:47.600 designers by the way i'm reading from a reason here this is them talking here frankly we are not

00:06:52.000 comfortable and haven't been for years with any of the options that start with half said jeremy

00:06:57.080 crawford a dnd rules designers a at a virtual event last weekend to play dnd it's necessary to design

00:07:03.120 characters with specific race human elf dwarf gnome etc and specific class ranger barbarian cleric etc

00:07:09.660 the official materials offer guidance for doing so the races and classes have specific characteristics

00:07:15.320 elves have long natural lifespans orcs can see in the dark and so on but players can also make a

00:07:22.180 character with mixed racial traits half elves are characters with one human parent and one elf

00:07:27.220 parent half orcs are characters with one human parent and one orc parent while it's possible to

00:07:32.940 design other mixed race characters again official materials make it clear that everyone can do

00:07:38.700 whatever they want these two combinations are specifically listed ones and they have their own

00:07:43.220 traits well not anymore according to several reports from dnd players who witnessed the event

00:07:47.720 the official materials are dropping these classes due to concerns of inherent racism players who want a

00:07:54.620 mixed character will be advised to choose one race from which to draw their traits

00:07:58.720 is this same for like rangers and barbarians no a ranger is a class not a race oh sorry i don't

00:08:07.160 i'm bad at this okay okay okay i don't know nothing about this dean so the game will prompt you to

00:08:17.320 either have elf or human to round out your game related qualities okay and this is what i find so

00:08:23.740 interesting because i really want to dive into this because i think it's fascinating so to go into the

00:08:27.860 mechanics here for gameplay select one species as your quote-unquote primary heritage primary all the

00:08:35.460 traits and features of that sub race lineage options this reminds me so much of how like when when

00:08:41.180 people have mixed race heritage it's super common in modern culture for like let's say you have like

00:08:48.480 obama right white mom black dad he's still like the first black president well so i think that's part of

00:08:56.020 where this comes from so let's let's talk about this um there's the hilarious south park ad that's an ad

00:09:01.460 for 23 and me to find out what percent victim you are um but basically what this is codifying

00:09:10.220 i thought i was just a standard white guy but dna and me showed that i'm actually 4.2 cherokee indian

00:09:17.380 turns out i'm not totally white i'm also part northern asian and even some kurdish i'm a victim of

00:09:24.940 oppression people made fun of me for being french dna and me showed i was eight percent navajo nobody's

00:09:31.460 making fun of me now or my people who are victims i'm 13 percent victim i'm 21 percent victim into dnd

00:09:39.340 is you get to choose any one part of your heritage no matter how small it is and a hundred percent

00:09:47.320 identify as that portion of your heritage that's totally how people do though unless they choose to be

00:09:53.480 you know pocahontas elizabeth warren no no no it's how wokes do it's not how i think productive

00:09:58.720 individuals do yeah i don't think it's how a healthy society works yeah but what's also really

00:10:03.460 fascinating is within a dnd world you know nobody argues that orcs and elves and humans and dwarves

00:10:15.220 do not have different biological features like nobody's gonna argue that an elf has the strength

00:10:23.640 of an orc yeah right nobody's nobody's i think historically a few people would argue that you

00:10:31.160 know a a human has the innate skill for metalworking that a dwarf has and so this is accepted within 0.99

00:10:38.760 any sort of fantasy world right and so they're not denying when they draw the offspring of say you

00:10:46.780 know a human and an orc that that offspring is not going to by any sane measure of the imagination

00:10:54.540 beat any human in an arm wrestle for example yeah but they say that we have to pretend that that's not

00:11:03.020 the case that we have to pretend that they are either just as strong as an orc or just as weak as

00:11:10.940 a human and and so that's how your stats come out if you choose to identify if you're half orc half

00:11:16.800 human and you choose to identify as human does that mean like your stats in the game are or yes your

00:11:22.500 stats are what you identify as i mean i don't know like i feel like when people choose their identities

00:11:28.000 it does affect their outcome even if it's like you know not their chosen identity but it's so it's

00:11:33.920 not just around ethnicity here okay but obviously this has a lot of parallels to the trans community

00:11:39.560 and stuff like that like this idea that you can look at you know strong man from south park and you

00:11:45.320 can be like obviously that sports competition isn't fair like i can see leah thomas right that was the 1.00

00:11:51.180 one who did the competition um the swimmer yeah i can see that she has dramatically more muscle mass 0.99

00:11:59.720 than i have ever seen on a biological woman reading the world the way it's supposed to be which is once 0.93

00:12:04.440 you choose to identify as see in the correct world leah thomas would have begun to suck at swimming 1.00

00:12:10.500 when she transitioned the problem is that reality is just unjust i actually love like i'm imagining like

00:12:17.740 in dnd you know that the half orc like joins the the weightlifting competition and it's like but i 0.98

00:12:23.980 identify with my human parents like yeah what are you talking about it is being like this whole subplot

00:12:29.500 of how like half orcs and half elves are like exploiting human competition realms yeah they're 0.99

00:12:36.580 like everything it's not on my stat block look at my stats no i'm actually imagining here you know

00:12:41.080 there's like there's like isake where you're taken to like a video game world yeah except like woke

00:12:46.060 racists are enforcing this way of doing the rules on everyone and like obviously it's not working

00:12:52.820 and you have like orcs identifying as elves to like go into like elf weightlifting competitions

00:12:58.220 yeah and like elves identifying as orcs to go into their like gymnastics competition but you just know

00:13:03.960 that like in these fantasy worlds and like the racism or i don't know a species of whatever would be

00:13:10.440 like so much stronger than it already is that's what's so okay so this is why i found this so telling

00:13:15.020 before we go into all these instances is you and i are here and we look at something like the trans

00:13:23.380 people in sports or something like that right yeah and we're like i have eyes i is it that these people

00:13:30.140 don't have eyes is it that these people like cannot make a basic biological judgment here right

00:13:37.280 i have a lot of incredible trans friends who are athletes and so we're all inspired this woman's

00:13:42.600 competing uh-huh she's not exactly your average trans athlete well what is an average trans athlete

00:13:49.680 honestly i find that kind of bigoted david okay now that i can compete as female i'm ready to smash the 0.84

00:13:56.500 other girls i'm gonna rule up the other women here and i'm gonna smoke them i am the strongest woman 1.00

00:14:04.600 this state has ever seen but but so i look at that and i'm like surely maybe it's just that we're not

00:14:14.080 dimorphic enough right but what you see within the dnd example which is really really fascinating and

00:14:22.860 helps elucidate the way they actually see ethnic groups you see that no even if it was so patently

00:14:30.600 obvious that no one could conceivably deny it i.e the half orc or something like that right

00:14:38.480 they would still choose to deny it keep in mind this wizard of the coast team it got through like

00:14:45.240 an entire diversity like review board right like tell of course it did but wait hold on is this

00:14:51.840 matter of course it did but to me outside of the woke mob and and and circles and everything like

00:14:59.200 that i hear about this and i'm thinking that's obviously racist right to ban but like no it's

00:15:09.460 just how it's supposed to be it's just how it's supposed to be so they're like it's it's right but

00:15:14.780 it shows the way that they want to apply this within our own reality as well and that it is

00:15:20.860 well enough conceived that this idea of even though they look like a man even though they have the

00:15:27.120 muscle of a man yeah no they're not a man they're not a man and they have the stats of a woman so i

00:15:31.840 think that matters in terms of that way of relating to race right like race is well well it's sort of 0.81

00:15:37.380 being transracial is still something like ration dolezard or whatever who like pretend to be black and

00:15:42.060 had like no black heritage like this is something that's still really looked down upon the idea of

00:15:47.800 pretending or taking ownership of an ethnic group is i think way more flexible in progressive circles

00:15:56.600 than we pretend it is on the right or that they pretend it is a quick logistical question for people

00:16:02.400 like me who are outside that haven't ever played dnd could this have just been a logistical constraint

00:16:08.000 like it's just too hard for dungeon masters to or like for players in general just set up

00:16:12.540 they said why look i i literally read their quotes about this simone i know but maybe they did that for

00:16:18.840 like social points within their leftist circles because this has been dominated by leftist factions

00:16:23.760 but in the end it was just a logistical thing to have more diversity for like min maxing stats and

00:16:28.560 everything okay so this was very explicitly done for for diversity reasons to be on the woke side of

00:16:34.020 history because before you would you could mix them right yes it was so this like it wasn't a

00:16:39.480 problem that was being fixed because at first i was like well five editions it wasn't a problem no

00:16:43.600 okay yeah i was like i don't know maybe you have to like add you know add numbers and then average

00:16:47.480 them out and it just takes too much time and that no no the the set stats for half elves half or

00:16:53.520 tough they're all given like they were just oh god okay so you just look it up this is even

00:16:58.880 something additional they can sell because there's more pages in their book dude you're right okay okay

00:17:03.180 sorry that just that was necessary i didn't know that i now thank you for telling me okay so wait

00:17:08.480 what was the point i was making when you interrupted me i remember the point was very important so i'm

00:17:12.160 glad i didn't forget it the second one is this is this applies even to ethnic group with only one

00:17:17.820 exception among wokes so you're people are like oh you can't just say that you're black was in woke

00:17:23.840 circles right and i'd be like actually you can as long as you can pass as having any meaningful

00:17:30.780 black heritage so if an individual for example was in woke circles was let's say one eighth black or

00:17:37.820 something like that and they said i'm black and you said if you're anything other than like obviously

00:17:43.940 blacker than them no you're not black you don't look back you don't pass as black this would be seen 0.99

00:17:50.300 as an incredibly offensive thing to say was in their circles and i've noticed as well was in woke circles

00:17:56.040 this becomes a particularly easy way to get the bipoc background by claiming native american heritage 0.68

00:18:02.740 because you may not look native american you know and so you can claim it or by claiming next heritage

00:18:09.520 because nobody knows you know latinx white people are latinx right like you're from argentina or

00:18:15.740 whatever right yeah you could be like literally 100 italian and mitt romney is latinx right like yes

00:18:23.160 his parents were mexicans weren't they google it i'm sure they were you know so he's more latinx than

00:18:29.540 most wokies right and if he said i'm latinx and you tried to challenge him on this and you are to the

00:18:34.860 right of him you get immediately dogpiled so i i think this is really important to note that when

00:18:42.800 they say that we haven't entered this sort of i can identify as whatever race i want we actually are

00:18:47.180 already well in the i can identify as whatever race i want with the only caveat that it gets tricky

00:18:54.560 when you're identifying as black and you probably want some small amount of heritage from that group

00:19:00.880 but it's considered very offensive to question individuals because they don't unquote unquote pass

00:19:05.180 which was the point historically the reason why you would sometimes identify somebody as say black

00:19:12.520 even though they would have you know a half white or a white parent right is you'd say well they

00:19:18.080 looked black enough that they experienced all the oppression oh yeah people saw them as black and

00:19:24.440 therefore so this is where this logic started but it's no longer there anymore you can very clearly

00:19:30.160 pass as a white european and claim latinx heritage or claim black heritage is what i've seen so we got

00:19:38.600 to talk about you know that right like identities are choice now but the second thing is how they

00:19:43.620 relate to ethnic heritage which i think is really important because clearly here the reason they're

00:19:49.420 uncomfortable with this is in their heads which by the way was not the case for me in my head i never

00:19:55.780 understood orcs to be black people okay but in their head if they're like well it's offensive that you

00:20:03.700 know half orcs exist then they're saying that these are like ethnic groups and not like species

00:20:10.440 right and as such uh they're saying that they always were kind of uncomfortable one with ethnic

00:20:17.900 group mixing but two with the idea that you could inherit some traits from one ethnic group and some

00:20:23.140 traits from another ethnic group now okay i'm sorry i just need for again for me and all the other

00:20:28.260 non-dnd people i know that orcs from the lord of the rings universe are sort of i mean you could

00:20:34.880 say genetically modified or are modified through treatments elves so you know genetically okay so

00:20:42.740 they're in dnd they're just this separate you have mentioned this a number of times that you think

00:20:46.480 is a universal true thing about orcs and it is literally only token like the lord of the rings

00:20:51.060 universe is pretty big literally only the lord of the rings universe orcs are are like that that is

00:20:57.580 that is never okay maybe people will school me and there'll be like one other mainstream fantasy

00:21:02.820 world but it is not a common factor of orcs well thank you i needed to know that because i wasn't

00:21:08.220 sure i was like it's it's weird to yeah by far the most common trope of orcs even in the late 80s

00:21:15.400 was like noble savages like they were very tribal they were very savage but they you know upheld honor

00:21:22.380 and everything like that like the reavers of the fantasy world no i said noble savages

00:21:27.340 oh noble oh oh oh so like structured and not crazy yes more they're often structured like

00:21:34.500 sort of like native american tribes and stuff like that when they're when they're doing them

00:21:38.060 okay so like closer to the earth less less in their high towers and yes okay i gotcha all right

00:21:44.960 gotcha gotcha thanks yes and and so this has been a thing for a while but anyway the point here being

00:21:50.480 is sorry yes you go on big tangents i need to know i need that how do you watch so little fantasy we

00:22:00.300 just because i do the work i do the i pay the bills i thank you for that simone i really appreciate it

00:22:07.060 but the the point here being is that they think that ethnicity is something that you

00:22:16.080 choose and you choose one and you're not really supposed to choose two and this is true with in

00:22:24.380 woke circles for mixed race individuals i i i even see and you can sound off in the comments here

00:22:29.980 some shaming when people attempt to combine traditions from both of their parents well it is

00:22:36.000 the urban monoculture to be fair yeah it's it's it's adopt one identity so i'm not confused about

00:22:43.360 your position in our social hierarchy and that identity is sort of like your your personal branding

00:22:49.800 or whatever and unrelated to your biological reality which is really interesting and i think

00:22:55.020 that that is part of what the modern i guess we'll call it woke racism is instead of the post-racism

00:23:01.600 because right now it's dealing with like the the reason we use the term post-racism is because

00:23:05.640 usually for people to sort of enter a post-racist mindset and be like it's okay that we're different

00:23:13.720 you have to go through learning about those differences accepting those differences and then

00:23:21.540 understanding that they're just not that important with the current genetic technology that that we have

00:23:26.280 you know coming down the pipeline and and that that this is okay that it is diversity wouldn't 0.51

00:23:32.560 have value if we weren't actually different right if everyone was interchangeable with everyone else

00:23:37.180 there would be no reason to say that diversity is a thing of value be that cultural or genetic diversity

00:23:42.540 and so and i think that that is you know as you said about this you're like it's sort of like dune

00:23:48.420 you know you the pain box right you must face your racism and let it pass through you

00:23:52.860 that is is is where you go to enter a truly non-racist world it is through all of the threats

00:24:02.140 that come with traditional racism because if you refuse to engage with those threats you end up in

00:24:09.180 this alternate crazy world where every group difference is because somebody's cheating and

00:24:16.060 therefore any group that is out competing your group must be destroyed and this always leads to

00:24:20.060 things like anti-semitism and stuff like that yeah yeah yeah no i'm not saying that idea is bad

00:24:25.460 because it leads to anti-semitism an idea may lead to anti-semitism and be perfectly valid i'm just

00:24:30.140 arguing to the wokes who sometimes care about anti-semitism that this mindset is always going to take you 0.94

00:24:36.480 there or to you know our reformed jew viewers who think that staying on the left side is still a good

00:24:42.420 idea it's like no no no no no no no no if you promote this ideology it ends with your group being

00:24:48.100 targeted but it leads with any group this this out competing but i i want to now get to do you have

00:24:53.260 any thoughts on this before we go further saman no dive deeper this just my mind was already blown

00:24:59.200 at the very beginning of this when i realized that you know racism was totally different from what i

00:25:03.620 thought it was as a kid so this is representative jasmine crockert a democrat in texas who's talking in

00:25:11.620 in 2025 about brian donald's a a black man and she's a member of the squad so you know very prominent

00:25:19.680 right and she said that his marriage to a white woman quote-unquote whitewashes him making him less

00:25:27.940 authentically black so he feels like a race traitor no she says he's not really black because he married 0.94

00:25:35.640 a white woman he doesn't get to claim to be black see this is the thing about whoa okay um this is an 1.00

00:25:42.740 elected politician this year said this not like because he married outside his what that is how 0.86

00:25:50.800 can she so what's interesting is remember how i said that like they can identify as whatever they

00:25:55.300 want like if elizabeth warren wants to identify as native american that's not offensive from a 0.99

00:25:59.380 democratic perspective right but if you are not a democrat and if you are not within the urban

00:26:04.220 monoculture if you challenge it then people within the urban monoculture get to identify what you

00:26:09.180 are um and that's what we're seeing here right no no in shared by at rob the builder a self-described

00:26:17.960 liberal he warned of and i've seen these in the wild as well warning of fetitization uh when he was

00:26:26.440 talking about how white women in woke circles scrutinize interracial relationships as exploitative

00:26:31.380 he dated a dark-skinned indian woman last summer but she was repeatedly warned by white liberal

00:26:37.720 acquaintances who didn't know him that his interest was likely a racial fetish or tokenization to signal

00:26:44.780 virtue um and he wrote from his on he goes on three separate occasions from three different people

00:26:51.880 she was warned that my attraction to her was likely either a fetish and or tokenization whatever that

00:26:57.840 means that is so weird is this because there are now prominent conservatives who are in mixed race

00:27:05.800 marriages and now a lot of prominent conservatives are in mixed race marriages yeah but keep in mind

00:27:10.220 that this never met it doesn't matter when as the classic you know incredibly anti-white you know

00:27:16.220 black progressive woman marries jewish guy trope yeah and we point out if you look at the conservatives

00:27:21.980 the ones that they're always saying are racist like you know jd vance will be like married to

00:27:25.560 you know a indian woman right indian kids right you see you see this all the time right like

00:27:29.960 they clearly don't mean whatever we used to mean by racist when they're calling him a racist right

00:27:35.420 they're talking about some new distinction and so i'm trying to categorize these two new systems of

00:27:40.940 thought post-racism and woke racism as the diametrically opposed instead of both schools

00:27:48.380 pointing out ways in which each one of them is more like what we historically called racism in the 90s

00:27:54.340 and i will agree that some parts of post-racism are closer to what we call racism in the 90s than

00:28:00.280 woke racism but overall woke racism is way closer i'd say it's like 80 towards woke racism in terms of

00:28:07.160 whatever we call racism in the 90s because my memory of 90s racism was totally okay with accepting

00:28:15.400 genetic differences in fact there was a celebration of the variety of humans and it was like we're different

00:28:21.660 and isn't that cool and isn't it cool that this person isn't like you and has different culture

00:28:26.560 and heritage and our strength is in that variety that wait wait so where so let's keep going here okay

00:28:35.360 okay in a paper titled the marriage fundamentalist guide to the end of the world occidental college

00:28:42.820 sociology professor lisa wade a prominent voice in gender and racial studies often cited in progressive

00:28:48.340 academia argue that marriage itself reinforces quote white heteropatriarchal supremacy end quote oh

00:28:55.120 that's why she calls it a marriage fundamentalist wow yeah representatives brian donald highlighted in

00:29:03.260 his response tying it to criticism of his own interracial marriage as left-leaning commentators

00:29:08.860 used it to question the legitimacy of his mixed race unions under systemic racism and then quote here

00:29:14.700 marriage fundamentalism like structural racism is a key in structuring element of white heteropatriarchal

00:29:23.200 supremacy in quote heteropatriarchal supremacy now in a widely discussed essay journalist paul kicks

00:29:33.320 in an interracial marriage was a black woman described a shift in liberal attitudes post 2020 so i don't

00:29:40.240 hear this has also been recent which is pretty interesting at a neighborhood gathering a white

00:29:44.560 progressive mother questioned his fitness to raise their biracial children reflecting water woke

00:29:50.960 weariness about white partners in mixed race families and they heightened some focus on racial

00:29:56.920 supremacy of color he said quote i don't know how you can raise black children right now in quote and

00:30:03.340 this was in the essay the free press essay liberals once embraced intermacial marriages like mine what

00:30:08.800 changed we might do a separate episode or we just go over this essay because i think that sounds pretty

00:30:12.420 interesting um but i think that this is true like if you believe in racial supremacy right like it black 1.00

00:30:20.620 people are genuinely superior or or more fragile or more like like somehow needing of a different class 0.86

00:30:27.620 of parents like you would look at the white person raising them and be like how can you be good

00:30:31.880 enough to be the parent to these yeah but if if it's a mixed race that that means that that person's

00:30:38.800 genetics is also in their kid and that's what's really fascinating right that's where the gnt thing

00:30:45.440 comes in these children are only black in these people's minds and not only that but these children

00:30:50.880 would have the right to or and are expected to the reason why they're like the father should be ashamed 0.53

00:30:56.700 and not the mother is because they expect the kids to choose their black identity and not their white

00:31:01.220 identity this is shockingly regressive i cannot believe it's not good like we are fighting against

00:31:07.940 true evil here like i want to be clear right these are not like there's some good to it and there's some

00:31:14.140 bad to it but i think that there is good in trying to delineate what they believe and better understand

00:31:20.220 what they believe about what race really is and how your race is really determined

00:31:25.540 i suppose okay matt young goes three a verified x user in queer and leftist communities critiqued

00:31:36.020 the framing of interracial relationships often white plus non-white as progressive symbols they

00:31:42.600 argued these dynamics historically benefited white men and aren't truly emancipatory so here's the quote

00:31:49.140 one interracial relationships are not inherently progressive two miscegenation laws were historically

00:31:56.220 introduced by white men ending them has was done primarily to benefit white men three interracial

00:32:03.200 is almost synonymous with white plus other no it's not but this is what they think this is not

00:32:10.580 something that he gets pushed back on you know this is yeah it's just stated without okay

00:32:15.680 communities and stuff like that right and i think that this is why we also need something other than

00:32:20.980 scientific racism which i'm quite against scientific racism is to say you know racial groups are

00:32:28.960 genetically quite distinct from each other and this significantly matters to the way we structure

00:32:34.120 society and that it is important to understand often you know as a sidebar to this which groups are the

00:32:40.720 good ones and which ones are the bad ones and and you know some scientific racists will be like i don't do

00:32:45.140 that third thing and it's like you know a lot of people in the community do right like you you know

00:32:50.140 they do right and i think that that's not a healthy way and that's why i i opted to this post-racist

00:32:55.480 category where you have gone through that understanding and you've come out at a more logical end point

00:33:02.980 than a racial obsession either in the form of scientific racism or in the form of leftism modern woke racism

00:33:12.400 so if we're going to find some other fun ones here oh yes let's do robin d'angelo

00:33:21.900 what did she have to say she's still doing stuff time for a long time

00:33:28.240 yeah so she said and then i'm a big believer in affinity space and affinity work and i think people

00:33:36.580 of color need to get away from white people and have some community with each other bring back 1.00

00:33:41.640 segregation bring back segregation yes uh ya zhang pong and anti-racist narratives in interracial

00:33:49.380 marriages this was august 2022 and this is discussed a lot that year so in psychology today a mainstream

00:33:55.280 progressive leaning psychology outlet this phd an academic and an interracial couple herself

00:34:00.780 highlights how post-2020 anti-racist activism frames white partners as inherent oppressors

00:34:06.900 this narrative drawn from figures like abram x kennedy and robin d'angelo questions the authenticity of

00:34:13.760 mixed race unions and so she said why would oppressed persons want to marry their oppressors

00:34:19.280 and if these activists are right wouldn't we have to conclude that no authentic relationship could

00:34:24.700 exist between white and non-white people maybe because these aren't oppressed people marrying

00:34:30.820 their oppressors because slavery was abolished a while ago maybe i know that people would be like

00:34:38.980 well it hasn't been enough time for them to catch up and i'm like well then why do why do japanese

00:34:42.500 americans out earn white americans like yeah despite internment much more recently and you can be like

00:34:47.420 well that wasn't as long and i'm like well it's still re-zeroed them you know so so and then people

00:34:51.460 can be like well well see the thing is is you're not taking into account the cultural effects of x

00:34:57.380 many years of slavery and he goes ah right there the cultural effects so that means that it can be

00:35:02.620 addressed intra-community not it doesn't need to be enforced from the outside if anything watch the

00:35:08.540 other episode we're gonna have releasing around this if you do handouts whether it's dei or whether

00:35:14.540 it is in terms of cash handouts you usually hurt the community in question and there was a great study

00:35:19.560 on this that showed that if you're looking at and note here i'm not saying for genetic reasons it's

00:35:24.900 just everybody knows well not everybody knows but like if you're aware of like the research into

00:35:29.180 discrimination and everything like that black students in america uh score lower than white 0.84

00:35:34.060 students and earn less than than white individuals this is also true for latin american americans and if

00:35:40.240 you're like okay where are these differences the smallest and where are they the biggest biggest in

00:35:46.580 democratic areas and they are the smallest in republican areas so that means that when you

00:35:50.020 have intergenerational republican leadership you you get less distance between ethnic groups meaning

00:35:56.520 meaning more equality but that's because you're getting less dei and less handouts which increase

00:36:01.120 these things see our dei videos on this anyway so to continue here sociologist serisha solvon

00:36:10.040 cold research published by rice university progressive academic institution argues that mixed race marriages

00:36:15.240 don't inherently challenge racism and can even reinforce it through colorblind assumptions progressive

00:36:21.760 media outlets like the garland guardian amplified this in 2023 to 2024 when they were getting called

00:36:26.280 mad at us and caution viewing interracial unions as a solution to systemic issues potentially

00:36:32.220 stigmatizing them as performative yeah i performatively got married and had kids with somebody for my entire

00:36:38.240 life i mean i'm not going to argue it never happens but like i don't think that like jd vans like the

00:36:44.560 political lesbians of race warriors so as a quote here interracial couples often serve as proof that 1.00

00:36:52.960 we are indeed making positive liberal advancements particularly when they have children but this

00:36:57.880 presumption can undermine the racism of the extended family members who encounter the couple

00:37:03.720 what are they even asserting that i mean first when you actually look at the data mixed race marriages are at a

00:37:13.360 higher rate in the united states at least today than they ever have been historically they're becoming

00:37:18.760 increasingly common and the other really important piece of data here too which i think is just so important

00:37:24.540 and so telling is that say what you will about gold diggers it's actually very unusual for people to marry

00:37:30.720 outside their educational wealth or whatever status class so the fact that there are more mixed race

00:37:36.980 marriages to me says that there is less of a functionally perceived and felt barrier between

00:37:44.960 people of different racial backgrounds that they are seeing themselves as in the same class because we are

00:37:50.880 really entering a post race world and i just that they're trying to go back well i think simone

00:38:00.560 it's important to remember that in a modern context white supremacy has a big over diversity

00:38:07.780 problem it's just too diverse a movement the white supremacist movement we need to there's too many

00:38:14.480 black and indians in it and it needs a cleaning because i have seen you know leftists complain about

00:38:20.720 this a lot recently is is is the problem with all the diversity in the white supremacist movement 0.95

00:38:25.200 but it's a joke because the people who the left frame as white supremacists who are not white

00:38:29.880 supremacists they're just not woke racists that they and and again the reason i make up this post

00:38:34.920 racist label is it is a very different view about race than the race realists have and it's a very

00:38:41.440 different view about race than being against racism what is in the 90s because i think in the 90s

00:38:46.240 there was still this sort of underlying fear of being like it's okay to admit that people are different

00:38:56.220 from each other yeah well and that that our differences are our strengths they're good things

00:39:02.220 that diversity would have no value if no human group was actually different from any other human

00:39:10.660 group we would be interchangeable there wouldn't be a reason to think of groups differently um

00:39:17.300 there'd be no reason to say oh we need x many of x type of person in this office for maximum it's like

00:39:24.300 well apparently all men and women are completely interchangeable you know except they aren't and

00:39:29.760 stay in your lane and don't ever pretend to yeah well i mean i think it's about accepting reality and

00:39:35.700 what they're doing which is really interesting and i think we see from the dnd is that race has become 0.69

00:39:40.400 an optional identity in the same way that they've kind of done this with sexuality where really anyone

00:39:45.320 on the left can identify with well pretty much any sexuality they want yeah they get to you can be

00:39:51.500 like well they can't identify as gay and it's like well they can identify as a woman and now they're

00:39:54.720 gay you know yeah oh that's true yeah you can yeah there you go so sexuality doesn't matter anymore 0.98

00:40:04.120 you know arousal patterns don't matter anymore what you're actually born doesn't matter anymore it's all

00:40:09.680 a choice and what's what's interesting is that this whole mindset around this all being a choice

00:40:14.720 is downstream of an imperialist and european descended culture which is one of the things i always point out

00:40:20.860 about and by that what i mean is when you point out they're like well i love muslims and i go well

00:40:25.360 you know muslims in pakistan have a lot of views that you're going to disagree with and they're like 0.93

00:40:28.480 well one day they'll agree with all my views because we will eradicate what makes their culture distinct 0.99

00:40:32.860 yeah you know so i i think that that's always really hilarious to me but anyway any any thoughts

00:40:38.780 simone before we close out here just horrified i i just i i can't but i mean it is so mainstream

00:40:45.780 this is dnd now this is wizard of the coast this is the world we live in now

00:40:51.940 it doesn't it it only makes the game more boring you've just taken out nobody got fired over this

00:41:00.500 no big uprising happened just

00:41:03.280 but i mean you had more choices in the past that

00:41:08.180 yes you did have more choices society was more interesting i mean it's also like outside of dnd it's 1.00

00:41:15.200 it's not just stupid it's it's 1.00

00:41:17.620 it's it's unproductive it's stupid unproductive and it is sort of anti-reality and it shocks me even 1.00

00:41:27.920 more though is like bro you know i've said i suspect there to be as people begin to realize 0.98

00:41:33.560 that the mainstream right now is like i might be naming post-racism or other people might have

00:41:39.100 named it already but or post-scientific racism i think it's a sort of good full term for it

00:41:46.060 but it is the normative position within the online right right now it is the normative position among

00:41:53.480 youth these days if you talk to them who are not woke brainwashed it is not like our position that

00:42:00.180 we're trying to convince you of i'm sure the vast majority of our listeners when i hear this term

00:42:03.900 they're like oh yeah that describes my view of this concept and it's a view that's just sort of like

00:42:11.160 believe the evidence but don't be a spaz about it and start like overly building your life around it

00:42:21.300 basically yeah in the same way that you know when people are like well you know if x group was really

00:42:29.720 better at x or y would that not change your daily decisions it's like anybody who's done like a 23 and

00:42:35.100 me or like a genetics poll because that poll said that you were supposed to be good at something did

00:42:40.660 you decide to like change your life based on that were you like oh this poll says i'm gonna be really

00:42:45.720 good at coding i guess i'm gonna leave my job and become a coder even though i don't like coding no

00:42:50.000 you still do what you want to do like it matters so little and this is where i always talk about

00:42:55.020 when people are like oh well you know if you knew that you had x predilection like that would be

00:43:00.040 really dangerous people ask us about us with our kids you know because we get them genetically

00:43:03.200 sequenced and i'm like you never freaked out about people's horoscopes and and these people believe

00:43:07.920 this so how would this be different anyway i know i love that like far woke women they will be like 1.00

00:43:18.040 there is no difference between these two you know very distinct cultural and ethnic groups and then

00:43:24.240 i'm like well you know i was born on x months and they're like oh you're a scorpio well i need to look

00:43:29.320 i need to oh that this relationship will never work like it's so weird actually like i just want to be

00:43:34.980 like it's so weird that we are like discriminating on race people will freak the f out but if you

00:43:44.400 discriminate based on people are like that's totally normal like oh i won't date aries obviously 1.00

00:43:53.820 how is that better

00:43:56.840 yeah it's not have you ever recognized that before yeah but it's it's just it's it's acceptable

00:44:03.560 because it's not race it's uh it's the month in which you were born which you also have no control

00:44:08.940 over but fortunately we now can discriminate on race it's it's been said they laid it out there's

00:44:13.580 just some rules for how to do it yeah rule number one to not be white no you can be white as long as

00:44:20.500 you're a democrat still have to be ashamed of your white privilege oh yeah you just have to say i'm 0.98

00:44:26.320 ashamed of it and but but you're and then find something else to you know you're like your pots and 0.99

00:44:33.320 you're trans and or non-binary and or suffering from severe mental disorders etc etc spoonie something 0.99

00:44:42.600 anyway i'm gonna go get the kids i'm gonna make your bulldog for dinner did you look at the video on 0.99

00:44:48.180 how they're cooked i'm gonna look at it right before i cook them but i'm gonna cook them before

00:44:52.660 i start the cooking sauteing the rice cake so they're totally cooked and then i'll reintegrate

00:44:56.660 them when i start simmering everything i can go in with the chicken okay when i put in the chicken

00:45:03.380 yeah i will do that or maybe like just after the chicken yeah that's the plan all right i love

00:45:10.240 you so much and thanks for horrifying me just when i think things can't get any crazier you blow my 0.85

00:45:15.820 mind so thanks for that world we're in so it goes she's so pretty so for dinner tonight are we doing

00:45:22.080 the the massive because she's about to give birth right and so she'll be out for a while and so she

00:45:27.340 wants to make like all of my favorite dishes in mass so they can be frozen and then easily preheat

00:45:33.080 like reheated so i want malcolm to still eat delicious homemade food like the what was it burmese

00:45:43.180 mint chicken that i made in this case i'm making bulldog fire chicken korean fire chicken but i just

00:45:49.760 i won't have i won't have the bandwidth to prepare it so we're gonna make it ahead of time and it's

00:45:56.500 gonna be perfect it's gonna be great yeah except here's actually malcolm's trick to bulldog which i

00:46:01.760 think is very interesting he basically wants to eat it like pizza without any carbs because as much

00:46:07.740 does he performatively as someone who has terrible health he actually like eats like has an intermittent

00:46:13.400 fasting mostly keto diet it's so weird this is pomegranate juice by the way yeah no you're like

00:46:20.300 you would you would never admit it but you actually like but the bulldog it's supposed to be in that way

00:46:25.980 bulldog is not eating with rice it's not eating with rice it has those korean like starchy rice

00:46:31.740 chunks in it but the way that malcolm likes it is normally bulldog is like kind of layered like in a

00:46:38.000 you know a dish like it's a little deep you spoon into it or well no chopstick into it but what malcolm

00:46:44.180 wants it to do is like basically when i when i prepare it like just spread it out very thinly

00:46:49.720 in like a a pie dish or on a baking sheet and then layer mozzarella cheese on top of it like a pizza

00:46:57.780 which is this is how it is traditionally not typically does have a top layer of mozzarella

00:47:01.000 cheese and then he eats it like that basically like a a crustless chicken and gochujang sauce like

00:47:09.100 cheese pizza which is really interesting and i get it like it maximizes the sort of pizza flavor

00:47:16.100 without the empty carbs because honestly yeah i mean i i freaking love deep dish pizza crust i love the

00:47:23.540 flakiness also like spicier and sweeter than a pizza and the car there is sugar in it or honey

00:47:29.480 or better because there's less diversity in them like with a pizza you've got to get the crust just

00:47:34.540 right and everything that's true and who wants the crust even when they fill the crust with cheese in

00:47:38.720 an attempt to redeem it which i appreciate it's still just it's still crust it's still crust but you

00:47:46.280 know what i actually appreciate that even koreans kind of inherently and intuitively understand this

00:47:50.160 because all of their pizzas are like don't worry we've put hot dogs in the crust don't worry we've

00:47:55.200 put like their crusts are disgusting but in theory and in theory they look amazing yeah they look

00:48:02.900 awesome like those little pointed like sausage infused cheese crusts it you'd think they'd be

00:48:10.140 great i never tried a pizza when we were in seoul because you were like they taste so terrible

00:48:14.460 at least we had that well no you know how terrible they taste did you try one of those like

00:48:19.340 a hot dog or corn dog things in seoul that look really good yes okay pizza is like if you had that

00:48:25.800 kind of bread and meat but it was an entire pizza you you know like when you taste it you're like this

00:48:31.860 is surprisingly disgusting like how it is it looks amazing like you see it like their little glazed

00:48:39.220 hot dog things yeah they have like corn dogs but the problem is is they're not corn dogs they're made

00:48:44.420 what with what i can only guess is is rice flour and it's just utterly flavorless and textureless

00:48:50.940 like just starchy just just dodgy and then you have the hot dog inside but it's just like this

00:48:56.600 why would you wrap i guess a hot dog bun but it's it's not but it's not soft and fluffy like a hot dog

00:49:02.820 barely flavorless compared to like a normal hot dog yeah it's just like the whole thing looks so freaking

00:49:08.140 good and it was so disappointing and i'm obsessed with corn dogs it's like one of my top pregnancy

00:49:13.340 cravings and how do you butcher that it's gotta imagine being in korea and not being able to get

00:49:18.860 a good corn dog seriously they have great what do i want to call them like croquettes like buns and

00:49:24.860 stuff i know yeah you just go to uh what's that called i was gonna say obon pan but no it's that's

00:49:30.460 that french parisian yeah it's it's the french they have it in the us too and i think people think

00:49:35.340 that they're actually french but they're no it's korean no what's it damn it what's it called

00:49:39.580 connection or the french i don't know something the place we were thinking of is paris baguette

00:49:45.260 and i'm always you know i i look at these in american cities like in manhattan or san francisco

00:49:49.580 and i'm like i wonder how many people who go here realize that this is extremely korean all the food here

00:49:55.260 is korean and this is a well-known korean chain that just didn't change its name to something like

00:50:00.540 korean baguette when it moved to america no but it's oh i love those yeah so at least they yeah

00:50:05.980 no they're they're like they can get it right so i don't know how they can get it so wrong with pizza

00:50:10.060 and corn dogs well or rice stock whatever they call them yeah and if you're not watching this because

00:50:17.420 i would have put some korea pizzas on on screen here uh you should google korean pizzas because

00:50:23.020 yeah just no for real yeah they're expensive too though they're pricey

00:50:32.220 when i die and i'm a dog then i'm gonna take care of the whole world and

00:50:41.340 oh do you mean you get all my stuff when i die yeah who told you about that 0.87

00:50:46.380 nobody i just failed it you just figured it out yourself yeah 0.99

00:50:50.300 wait so then are you going to try to kill me till you get my stuff 1.00

00:50:57.820 no you're going to die yourself 1.00

00:51:01.260 okay that makes sense i'm i'm done with that you make me a grandpa 0.97

00:51:04.300 and you get all my stuff okay deal

Based Camp - September 26, 2025

Post-Racism： What Racism Means When Wokes Say Mixed-Race Relationships Are Bad

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