Based Camp - September 26, 2025
Post-Racism: What Racism Means When Wokes Say Mixed-Race Relationships Are Bad
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss how the far left have attacked interracial marriages and interracial humans as an inherently racist concept. We also discuss the reasons why interracial marriage is considered less offensive than interracial unions.
Transcript
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hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be discussing a few topics
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one is on how the far left have begun to attack and see interracial marriages and interracial
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humans as an inherently racist concept the far left wait hold on i don't know if you know this
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simone this happened a few years ago because it's one of the things we're going to be talking about
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this but did you know that dnd no longer allows characters to create mixed race characters
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wait so like an elf can't marry an orc or no such thing as half no so you can have a character that
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is technically a half elf i.e their mom is an elf but the husband's a human okay but they can only
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have the traits of either elves or humans they can't have the traits of both so basically you have to
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choose one of your parents and that's your real ethnicity like this is considered less offensive
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than being mixed race and we're going to be going over this incident that happened a few years ago
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because i think it's actually interesting in that it explains the psychology of how they think race
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mixing is okay and how they think it's not okay and we'll be going into quotes from famous democratic
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politicians and media figures basically attacking the concept of mixed race marriages what and on top
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of all that i think this is interesting to discuss not from a haha look at them they're the racist now
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perspective like anybody who's saying knows that it's more interesting to study from sort of the
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anthropological perspective of what is racism mean today to stain people what does it mean to democrats
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where do we go societally and where are they going societally in terms of their understanding of race
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and it's where i will be laying out a new concept which i would say is what we are which i call post
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racist or if you want a longer term for it post scientific racist which is to say i think that
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the way that we should relate to ethnicities and racial groups as a society um is to and this is what i
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would say is the position of the post racist right uh rather than the anti-racist is to say that you
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know there are differences between groups what those differences are might be hard to quantify but like
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you shouldn't like re or freak out just because somebody's like this group is different from this
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group because when you do you can lead to really systemic damage to some populations like for example
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a lot of black women are completely unaware that they have i think it's 50 higher rate of pregnancy
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complications and early pregnancy terminations than white women do and so they they don't take because
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they they've been grown up and told you're biologically exactly like a white woman and so they don't
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make and take this into account when they're planning their fertility window which is why when you're
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looking at americans who are over the bottom i want to say like 20 percent of income blacks have the
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lowest fertility rate because the the black people who like plan go to school everything like that
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they they are unaware that their biology is going to make this harder for them than it is
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and they're they're white and asian friends then you've got the the problem of so so we don't do
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that but we accept our differences and we value our differences like humanity is good because we are
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diverse and it is through that diversity that we can challenge things and learn from each other right
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like our first thought both the wokes and the racist do this as we pointed out before is when they see a
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group out competing them and i laid out this theory before but it's a very important theory to
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understand when you're talking about differences between groups i.e uh this group has more money
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or more political power or more success than this group there are only three explanations for that
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one explanation is cultural differences one explanation is genetic differences and the other
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explanation is they put some sort of something systemic into practice that basically cheats the system in
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their favor and the problem is is that when you say that groups are not culturally different
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and anybody who says that certainly believes groups are genetically different it means you assume all
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differences are due to somebody cheating and you know this is as true when blm says that they've been
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cheated by white populations as it is when white supremacists say that the jews cheated them you know
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it's it's it's a toxic similarity between these two groups for sure the post-racist it says i won't fall
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for that i will admit that some groups can create systemic biases in their favor as some of you talked
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about you know like vietnamese nail salons and stuff like that cartels and that's patel motels etc yeah
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yeah and that sometimes a society can even through slavery or something you know create dramatic
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systemic advantages for certain groups but that it is important to focus on cultural differences
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and eventually when it's within the realm of things we can control genetic differences just as much the
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reason why we don't focus much on genetic differences right now is it's just not something you can do much
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about so being aware that it exists is different and note here i have made no claims about differences
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in say iq between ethnic groups we have never ever said that and we we won't say that but i want to go
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into the dnd thing because i think it's interesting and then we're going to go into quotes this is so
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crazy though just like the very premise that you've set out is so blowing my mind because i grew up
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believing that racism was i hate this group or this group is bad and now i'm realizing that all the
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racism that people are being accused of like within our social networks is how dare you
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recognize genetic differences which is insane but then also the only groups i know of that are like
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this group is evil are the ones saying are you ashamed of your white privilege yeah which is so
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crazy we had somebody ask us that a couple days ago that's why this is top of mind okay go on though
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this is this is just blowing my mind because i i had always thought that like the racism that you know
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like the definition of racism is always like oh it hasn't changed but like man that it really has
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changed and i think we need a new definition for whatever wokes are because i think you can just
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call them racist but they're they're kind of something new that has the qualities that would
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have been defined as racist in the 90s or whatever but of course they won't accept that label so what can
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we call them i don't know you can think of some new term for this as we go through this other than just
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chime in in the comments but wizards of the coast the company that publishes the official materials
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of the role-playing game dungeons and dragons is planning to eliminate the half elf half orc
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races in forthcoming editions they say the half elf construct is inherently racist according to game
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designers by the way i'm reading from a reason here this is them talking here frankly we are not
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comfortable and haven't been for years with any of the options that start with half said jeremy
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crawford a dnd rules designers a at a virtual event last weekend to play dnd it's necessary to design
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characters with specific race human elf dwarf gnome etc and specific class ranger barbarian cleric etc
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the official materials offer guidance for doing so the races and classes have specific characteristics
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elves have long natural lifespans orcs can see in the dark and so on but players can also make a
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character with mixed racial traits half elves are characters with one human parent and one elf
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parent half orcs are characters with one human parent and one orc parent while it's possible to
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design other mixed race characters again official materials make it clear that everyone can do
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whatever they want these two combinations are specifically listed ones and they have their own
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traits well not anymore according to several reports from dnd players who witnessed the event
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the official materials are dropping these classes due to concerns of inherent racism players who want a
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mixed character will be advised to choose one race from which to draw their traits
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is this same for like rangers and barbarians no a ranger is a class not a race oh sorry i don't
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i'm bad at this okay okay okay i don't know nothing about this dean so the game will prompt you to
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either have elf or human to round out your game related qualities okay and this is what i find so
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interesting because i really want to dive into this because i think it's fascinating so to go into the
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mechanics here for gameplay select one species as your quote-unquote primary heritage primary all the
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traits and features of that sub race lineage options this reminds me so much of how like when when
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people have mixed race heritage it's super common in modern culture for like let's say you have like
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obama right white mom black dad he's still like the first black president well so i think that's part of
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where this comes from so let's let's talk about this um there's the hilarious south park ad that's an ad
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for 23 and me to find out what percent victim you are um but basically what this is codifying
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i thought i was just a standard white guy but dna and me showed that i'm actually 4.2 cherokee indian
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turns out i'm not totally white i'm also part northern asian and even some kurdish i'm a victim of
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oppression people made fun of me for being french dna and me showed i was eight percent navajo nobody's
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making fun of me now or my people who are victims i'm 13 percent victim i'm 21 percent victim into dnd
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is you get to choose any one part of your heritage no matter how small it is and a hundred percent
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identify as that portion of your heritage that's totally how people do though unless they choose to be
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you know pocahontas elizabeth warren no no no it's how wokes do it's not how i think productive
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individuals do yeah i don't think it's how a healthy society works yeah but what's also really
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fascinating is within a dnd world you know nobody argues that orcs and elves and humans and dwarves
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do not have different biological features like nobody's gonna argue that an elf has the strength
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of an orc yeah right nobody's nobody's i think historically a few people would argue that you
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know a a human has the innate skill for metalworking that a dwarf has and so this is accepted within
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any sort of fantasy world right and so they're not denying when they draw the offspring of say you
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know a human and an orc that that offspring is not going to by any sane measure of the imagination
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beat any human in an arm wrestle for example yeah but they say that we have to pretend that that's not
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the case that we have to pretend that they are either just as strong as an orc or just as weak as
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a human and and so that's how your stats come out if you choose to identify if you're half orc half
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human and you choose to identify as human does that mean like your stats in the game are or yes your
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stats are what you identify as i mean i don't know like i feel like when people choose their identities
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it does affect their outcome even if it's like you know not their chosen identity but it's so it's
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not just around ethnicity here okay but obviously this has a lot of parallels to the trans community
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and stuff like that like this idea that you can look at you know strong man from south park and you
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can be like obviously that sports competition isn't fair like i can see leah thomas right that was the
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one who did the competition um the swimmer yeah i can see that she has dramatically more muscle mass
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than i have ever seen on a biological woman reading the world the way it's supposed to be which is once
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you choose to identify as see in the correct world leah thomas would have begun to suck at swimming
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when she transitioned the problem is that reality is just unjust i actually love like i'm imagining like
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in dnd you know that the half orc like joins the the weightlifting competition and it's like but i
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identify with my human parents like yeah what are you talking about it is being like this whole subplot
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of how like half orcs and half elves are like exploiting human competition realms yeah they're
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like everything it's not on my stat block look at my stats no i'm actually imagining here you know
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there's like there's like isake where you're taken to like a video game world yeah except like woke
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racists are enforcing this way of doing the rules on everyone and like obviously it's not working
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and you have like orcs identifying as elves to like go into like elf weightlifting competitions
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yeah and like elves identifying as orcs to go into their like gymnastics competition but you just know
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that like in these fantasy worlds and like the racism or i don't know a species of whatever would be
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like so much stronger than it already is that's what's so okay so this is why i found this so telling
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before we go into all these instances is you and i are here and we look at something like the trans
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people in sports or something like that right yeah and we're like i have eyes i is it that these people
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don't have eyes is it that these people like cannot make a basic biological judgment here right
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i have a lot of incredible trans friends who are athletes and so we're all inspired this woman's
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competing uh-huh she's not exactly your average trans athlete well what is an average trans athlete
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honestly i find that kind of bigoted david okay now that i can compete as female i'm ready to smash the
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other girls i'm gonna rule up the other women here and i'm gonna smoke them i am the strongest woman
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this state has ever seen but but so i look at that and i'm like surely maybe it's just that we're not
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dimorphic enough right but what you see within the dnd example which is really really fascinating and
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helps elucidate the way they actually see ethnic groups you see that no even if it was so patently
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obvious that no one could conceivably deny it i.e the half orc or something like that right
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they would still choose to deny it keep in mind this wizard of the coast team it got through like
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an entire diversity like review board right like tell of course it did but wait hold on is this
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matter of course it did but to me outside of the woke mob and and and circles and everything like
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that i hear about this and i'm thinking that's obviously racist right to ban but like no it's
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just how it's supposed to be it's just how it's supposed to be so they're like it's it's right but
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it shows the way that they want to apply this within our own reality as well and that it is
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well enough conceived that this idea of even though they look like a man even though they have the
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muscle of a man yeah no they're not a man they're not a man and they have the stats of a woman so i
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think that matters in terms of that way of relating to race right like race is well well it's sort of
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being transracial is still something like ration dolezard or whatever who like pretend to be black and
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had like no black heritage like this is something that's still really looked down upon the idea of
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pretending or taking ownership of an ethnic group is i think way more flexible in progressive circles
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than we pretend it is on the right or that they pretend it is a quick logistical question for people
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like me who are outside that haven't ever played dnd could this have just been a logistical constraint
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like it's just too hard for dungeon masters to or like for players in general just set up
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they said why look i i literally read their quotes about this simone i know but maybe they did that for
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like social points within their leftist circles because this has been dominated by leftist factions
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but in the end it was just a logistical thing to have more diversity for like min maxing stats and
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everything okay so this was very explicitly done for for diversity reasons to be on the woke side of
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history because before you would you could mix them right yes it was so this like it wasn't a
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problem that was being fixed because at first i was like well five editions it wasn't a problem no
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okay yeah i was like i don't know maybe you have to like add you know add numbers and then average
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them out and it just takes too much time and that no no the the set stats for half elves half or
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tough they're all given like they were just oh god okay so you just look it up this is even
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something additional they can sell because there's more pages in their book dude you're right okay okay
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sorry that just that was necessary i didn't know that i now thank you for telling me okay so wait
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what was the point i was making when you interrupted me i remember the point was very important so i'm
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glad i didn't forget it the second one is this is this applies even to ethnic group with only one
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exception among wokes so you're people are like oh you can't just say that you're black was in woke
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circles right and i'd be like actually you can as long as you can pass as having any meaningful
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black heritage so if an individual for example was in woke circles was let's say one eighth black or
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something like that and they said i'm black and you said if you're anything other than like obviously
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blacker than them no you're not black you don't look back you don't pass as black this would be seen
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as an incredibly offensive thing to say was in their circles and i've noticed as well was in woke circles
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this becomes a particularly easy way to get the bipoc background by claiming native american heritage
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because you may not look native american you know and so you can claim it or by claiming next heritage
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because nobody knows you know latinx white people are latinx right like you're from argentina or
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whatever right yeah you could be like literally 100 italian and mitt romney is latinx right like yes
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his parents were mexicans weren't they google it i'm sure they were you know so he's more latinx than
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most wokies right and if he said i'm latinx and you tried to challenge him on this and you are to the
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right of him you get immediately dogpiled so i i think this is really important to note that when
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they say that we haven't entered this sort of i can identify as whatever race i want we actually are
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already well in the i can identify as whatever race i want with the only caveat that it gets tricky
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when you're identifying as black and you probably want some small amount of heritage from that group
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but it's considered very offensive to question individuals because they don't unquote unquote pass
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which was the point historically the reason why you would sometimes identify somebody as say black
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even though they would have you know a half white or a white parent right is you'd say well they
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looked black enough that they experienced all the oppression oh yeah people saw them as black and
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therefore so this is where this logic started but it's no longer there anymore you can very clearly
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pass as a white european and claim latinx heritage or claim black heritage is what i've seen so we got
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to talk about you know that right like identities are choice now but the second thing is how they
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relate to ethnic heritage which i think is really important because clearly here the reason they're
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uncomfortable with this is in their heads which by the way was not the case for me in my head i never
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understood orcs to be black people okay but in their head if they're like well it's offensive that you
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know half orcs exist then they're saying that these are like ethnic groups and not like species
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right and as such uh they're saying that they always were kind of uncomfortable one with ethnic
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group mixing but two with the idea that you could inherit some traits from one ethnic group and some
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traits from another ethnic group now okay i'm sorry i just need for again for me and all the other
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non-dnd people i know that orcs from the lord of the rings universe are sort of i mean you could
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say genetically modified or are modified through treatments elves so you know genetically okay so
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they're in dnd they're just this separate you have mentioned this a number of times that you think
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is a universal true thing about orcs and it is literally only token like the lord of the rings
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universe is pretty big literally only the lord of the rings universe orcs are are like that that is
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that is never okay maybe people will school me and there'll be like one other mainstream fantasy
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world but it is not a common factor of orcs well thank you i needed to know that because i wasn't
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sure i was like it's it's weird to yeah by far the most common trope of orcs even in the late 80s
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was like noble savages like they were very tribal they were very savage but they you know upheld honor
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and everything like that like the reavers of the fantasy world no i said noble savages
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oh noble oh oh oh so like structured and not crazy yes more they're often structured like
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sort of like native american tribes and stuff like that when they're when they're doing them
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okay so like closer to the earth less less in their high towers and yes okay i gotcha all right
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gotcha gotcha thanks yes and and so this has been a thing for a while but anyway the point here being
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is sorry yes you go on big tangents i need to know i need that how do you watch so little fantasy we
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just because i do the work i do the i pay the bills i thank you for that simone i really appreciate it
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but the the point here being is that they think that ethnicity is something that you
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choose and you choose one and you're not really supposed to choose two and this is true with in
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woke circles for mixed race individuals i i i even see and you can sound off in the comments here
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some shaming when people attempt to combine traditions from both of their parents well it is
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the urban monoculture to be fair yeah it's it's it's adopt one identity so i'm not confused about
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your position in our social hierarchy and that identity is sort of like your your personal branding
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or whatever and unrelated to your biological reality which is really interesting and i think
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that that is part of what the modern i guess we'll call it woke racism is instead of the post-racism
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because right now it's dealing with like the the reason we use the term post-racism is because
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usually for people to sort of enter a post-racist mindset and be like it's okay that we're different
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you have to go through learning about those differences accepting those differences and then
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understanding that they're just not that important with the current genetic technology that that we have
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you know coming down the pipeline and and that that this is okay that it is diversity wouldn't
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have value if we weren't actually different right if everyone was interchangeable with everyone else
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there would be no reason to say that diversity is a thing of value be that cultural or genetic diversity
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and so and i think that that is you know as you said about this you're like it's sort of like dune
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you know you the pain box right you must face your racism and let it pass through you
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that is is is where you go to enter a truly non-racist world it is through all of the threats
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that come with traditional racism because if you refuse to engage with those threats you end up in
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this alternate crazy world where every group difference is because somebody's cheating and
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therefore any group that is out competing your group must be destroyed and this always leads to
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things like anti-semitism and stuff like that yeah yeah yeah no i'm not saying that idea is bad
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because it leads to anti-semitism an idea may lead to anti-semitism and be perfectly valid i'm just
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arguing to the wokes who sometimes care about anti-semitism that this mindset is always going to take you
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there or to you know our reformed jew viewers who think that staying on the left side is still a good
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idea it's like no no no no no no no no if you promote this ideology it ends with your group being
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targeted but it leads with any group this this out competing but i i want to now get to do you have
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any thoughts on this before we go further saman no dive deeper this just my mind was already blown
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at the very beginning of this when i realized that you know racism was totally different from what i
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thought it was as a kid so this is representative jasmine crockert a democrat in texas who's talking in
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in 2025 about brian donald's a a black man and she's a member of the squad so you know very prominent
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right and she said that his marriage to a white woman quote-unquote whitewashes him making him less
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authentically black so he feels like a race traitor no she says he's not really black because he married
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a white woman he doesn't get to claim to be black see this is the thing about whoa okay um this is an
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elected politician this year said this not like because he married outside his what that is how
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can she so what's interesting is remember how i said that like they can identify as whatever they
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want like if elizabeth warren wants to identify as native american that's not offensive from a
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democratic perspective right but if you are not a democrat and if you are not within the urban
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monoculture if you challenge it then people within the urban monoculture get to identify what you
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are um and that's what we're seeing here right no no in shared by at rob the builder a self-described
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liberal he warned of and i've seen these in the wild as well warning of fetitization uh when he was
00:26:26.440
talking about how white women in woke circles scrutinize interracial relationships as exploitative
00:26:31.380
he dated a dark-skinned indian woman last summer but she was repeatedly warned by white liberal
00:26:37.720
acquaintances who didn't know him that his interest was likely a racial fetish or tokenization to signal
00:26:44.780
virtue um and he wrote from his on he goes on three separate occasions from three different people
00:26:51.880
she was warned that my attraction to her was likely either a fetish and or tokenization whatever that
00:26:57.840
means that is so weird is this because there are now prominent conservatives who are in mixed race
00:27:05.800
marriages and now a lot of prominent conservatives are in mixed race marriages yeah but keep in mind
00:27:10.220
that this never met it doesn't matter when as the classic you know incredibly anti-white you know
00:27:16.220
black progressive woman marries jewish guy trope yeah and we point out if you look at the conservatives
00:27:21.980
the ones that they're always saying are racist like you know jd vance will be like married to
00:27:25.560
you know a indian woman right indian kids right you see you see this all the time right like
00:27:29.960
they clearly don't mean whatever we used to mean by racist when they're calling him a racist right
00:27:35.420
they're talking about some new distinction and so i'm trying to categorize these two new systems of
00:27:40.940
thought post-racism and woke racism as the diametrically opposed instead of both schools
00:27:48.380
pointing out ways in which each one of them is more like what we historically called racism in the 90s
00:27:54.340
and i will agree that some parts of post-racism are closer to what we call racism in the 90s than
00:28:00.280
woke racism but overall woke racism is way closer i'd say it's like 80 towards woke racism in terms of
00:28:07.160
whatever we call racism in the 90s because my memory of 90s racism was totally okay with accepting
00:28:15.400
genetic differences in fact there was a celebration of the variety of humans and it was like we're different
00:28:21.660
and isn't that cool and isn't it cool that this person isn't like you and has different culture
00:28:26.560
and heritage and our strength is in that variety that wait wait so where so let's keep going here okay
00:28:35.360
okay in a paper titled the marriage fundamentalist guide to the end of the world occidental college
00:28:42.820
sociology professor lisa wade a prominent voice in gender and racial studies often cited in progressive
00:28:48.340
academia argue that marriage itself reinforces quote white heteropatriarchal supremacy end quote oh
00:28:55.120
that's why she calls it a marriage fundamentalist wow yeah representatives brian donald highlighted in
00:29:03.260
his response tying it to criticism of his own interracial marriage as left-leaning commentators
00:29:08.860
used it to question the legitimacy of his mixed race unions under systemic racism and then quote here
00:29:14.700
marriage fundamentalism like structural racism is a key in structuring element of white heteropatriarchal
00:29:23.200
supremacy in quote heteropatriarchal supremacy now in a widely discussed essay journalist paul kicks
00:29:33.320
in an interracial marriage was a black woman described a shift in liberal attitudes post 2020 so i don't
00:29:40.240
hear this has also been recent which is pretty interesting at a neighborhood gathering a white
00:29:44.560
progressive mother questioned his fitness to raise their biracial children reflecting water woke
00:29:50.960
weariness about white partners in mixed race families and they heightened some focus on racial
00:29:56.920
supremacy of color he said quote i don't know how you can raise black children right now in quote and
00:30:03.340
this was in the essay the free press essay liberals once embraced intermacial marriages like mine what
00:30:08.800
changed we might do a separate episode or we just go over this essay because i think that sounds pretty
00:30:12.420
interesting um but i think that this is true like if you believe in racial supremacy right like it black
00:30:20.620
people are genuinely superior or or more fragile or more like like somehow needing of a different class
00:30:27.620
of parents like you would look at the white person raising them and be like how can you be good
00:30:31.880
enough to be the parent to these yeah but if if it's a mixed race that that means that that person's
00:30:38.800
genetics is also in their kid and that's what's really fascinating right that's where the gnt thing
00:30:45.440
comes in these children are only black in these people's minds and not only that but these children
00:30:50.880
would have the right to or and are expected to the reason why they're like the father should be ashamed
00:30:56.700
and not the mother is because they expect the kids to choose their black identity and not their white
00:31:01.220
identity this is shockingly regressive i cannot believe it's not good like we are fighting against
00:31:07.940
true evil here like i want to be clear right these are not like there's some good to it and there's some
00:31:14.140
bad to it but i think that there is good in trying to delineate what they believe and better understand
00:31:20.220
what they believe about what race really is and how your race is really determined
00:31:25.540
i suppose okay matt young goes three a verified x user in queer and leftist communities critiqued
00:31:36.020
the framing of interracial relationships often white plus non-white as progressive symbols they
00:31:42.600
argued these dynamics historically benefited white men and aren't truly emancipatory so here's the quote
00:31:49.140
one interracial relationships are not inherently progressive two miscegenation laws were historically
00:31:56.220
introduced by white men ending them has was done primarily to benefit white men three interracial
00:32:03.200
is almost synonymous with white plus other no it's not but this is what they think this is not
00:32:10.580
something that he gets pushed back on you know this is yeah it's just stated without okay
00:32:15.680
communities and stuff like that right and i think that this is why we also need something other than
00:32:20.980
scientific racism which i'm quite against scientific racism is to say you know racial groups are
00:32:28.960
genetically quite distinct from each other and this significantly matters to the way we structure
00:32:34.120
society and that it is important to understand often you know as a sidebar to this which groups are the
00:32:40.720
good ones and which ones are the bad ones and and you know some scientific racists will be like i don't do
00:32:45.140
that third thing and it's like you know a lot of people in the community do right like you you know
00:32:50.140
they do right and i think that that's not a healthy way and that's why i i opted to this post-racist
00:32:55.480
category where you have gone through that understanding and you've come out at a more logical end point
00:33:02.980
than a racial obsession either in the form of scientific racism or in the form of leftism modern woke racism
00:33:12.400
so if we're going to find some other fun ones here oh yes let's do robin d'angelo
00:33:21.900
what did she have to say she's still doing stuff time for a long time
00:33:28.240
yeah so she said and then i'm a big believer in affinity space and affinity work and i think people
00:33:36.580
of color need to get away from white people and have some community with each other bring back
00:33:41.640
segregation bring back segregation yes uh ya zhang pong and anti-racist narratives in interracial
00:33:49.380
marriages this was august 2022 and this is discussed a lot that year so in psychology today a mainstream
00:33:55.280
progressive leaning psychology outlet this phd an academic and an interracial couple herself
00:34:00.780
highlights how post-2020 anti-racist activism frames white partners as inherent oppressors
00:34:06.900
this narrative drawn from figures like abram x kennedy and robin d'angelo questions the authenticity of
00:34:13.760
mixed race unions and so she said why would oppressed persons want to marry their oppressors
00:34:19.280
and if these activists are right wouldn't we have to conclude that no authentic relationship could
00:34:24.700
exist between white and non-white people maybe because these aren't oppressed people marrying
00:34:30.820
their oppressors because slavery was abolished a while ago maybe i know that people would be like
00:34:38.980
well it hasn't been enough time for them to catch up and i'm like well then why do why do japanese
00:34:42.500
americans out earn white americans like yeah despite internment much more recently and you can be like
00:34:47.420
well that wasn't as long and i'm like well it's still re-zeroed them you know so so and then people
00:34:51.460
can be like well well see the thing is is you're not taking into account the cultural effects of x
00:34:57.380
many years of slavery and he goes ah right there the cultural effects so that means that it can be
00:35:02.620
addressed intra-community not it doesn't need to be enforced from the outside if anything watch the
00:35:08.540
other episode we're gonna have releasing around this if you do handouts whether it's dei or whether
00:35:14.540
it is in terms of cash handouts you usually hurt the community in question and there was a great study
00:35:19.560
on this that showed that if you're looking at and note here i'm not saying for genetic reasons it's
00:35:24.900
just everybody knows well not everybody knows but like if you're aware of like the research into
00:35:29.180
discrimination and everything like that black students in america uh score lower than white
00:35:34.060
students and earn less than than white individuals this is also true for latin american americans and if
00:35:40.240
you're like okay where are these differences the smallest and where are they the biggest biggest in
00:35:46.580
democratic areas and they are the smallest in republican areas so that means that when you
00:35:50.020
have intergenerational republican leadership you you get less distance between ethnic groups meaning
00:35:56.520
meaning more equality but that's because you're getting less dei and less handouts which increase
00:36:01.120
these things see our dei videos on this anyway so to continue here sociologist serisha solvon
00:36:10.040
cold research published by rice university progressive academic institution argues that mixed race marriages
00:36:15.240
don't inherently challenge racism and can even reinforce it through colorblind assumptions progressive
00:36:21.760
media outlets like the garland guardian amplified this in 2023 to 2024 when they were getting called
00:36:26.280
mad at us and caution viewing interracial unions as a solution to systemic issues potentially
00:36:32.220
stigmatizing them as performative yeah i performatively got married and had kids with somebody for my entire
00:36:38.240
life i mean i'm not going to argue it never happens but like i don't think that like jd vans like the
00:36:44.560
political lesbians of race warriors so as a quote here interracial couples often serve as proof that
00:36:52.960
we are indeed making positive liberal advancements particularly when they have children but this
00:36:57.880
presumption can undermine the racism of the extended family members who encounter the couple
00:37:03.720
what are they even asserting that i mean first when you actually look at the data mixed race marriages are at a
00:37:13.360
higher rate in the united states at least today than they ever have been historically they're becoming
00:37:18.760
increasingly common and the other really important piece of data here too which i think is just so important
00:37:24.540
and so telling is that say what you will about gold diggers it's actually very unusual for people to marry
00:37:30.720
outside their educational wealth or whatever status class so the fact that there are more mixed race
00:37:36.980
marriages to me says that there is less of a functionally perceived and felt barrier between
00:37:44.960
people of different racial backgrounds that they are seeing themselves as in the same class because we are
00:37:50.880
really entering a post race world and i just that they're trying to go back well i think simone
00:38:00.560
it's important to remember that in a modern context white supremacy has a big over diversity
00:38:07.780
problem it's just too diverse a movement the white supremacist movement we need to there's too many
00:38:14.480
black and indians in it and it needs a cleaning because i have seen you know leftists complain about
00:38:20.720
this a lot recently is is is the problem with all the diversity in the white supremacist movement
00:38:25.200
but it's a joke because the people who the left frame as white supremacists who are not white
00:38:29.880
supremacists they're just not woke racists that they and and again the reason i make up this post
00:38:34.920
racist label is it is a very different view about race than the race realists have and it's a very
00:38:41.440
different view about race than being against racism what is in the 90s because i think in the 90s
00:38:46.240
there was still this sort of underlying fear of being like it's okay to admit that people are different
00:38:56.220
from each other yeah well and that that our differences are our strengths they're good things
00:39:02.220
that diversity would have no value if no human group was actually different from any other human
00:39:10.660
group we would be interchangeable there wouldn't be a reason to think of groups differently um
00:39:17.300
there'd be no reason to say oh we need x many of x type of person in this office for maximum it's like
00:39:24.300
well apparently all men and women are completely interchangeable you know except they aren't and
00:39:29.760
stay in your lane and don't ever pretend to yeah well i mean i think it's about accepting reality and
00:39:35.700
what they're doing which is really interesting and i think we see from the dnd is that race has become
00:39:40.400
an optional identity in the same way that they've kind of done this with sexuality where really anyone
00:39:45.320
on the left can identify with well pretty much any sexuality they want yeah they get to you can be
00:39:51.500
like well they can't identify as gay and it's like well they can identify as a woman and now they're
00:39:54.720
gay you know yeah oh that's true yeah you can yeah there you go so sexuality doesn't matter anymore
00:40:04.120
you know arousal patterns don't matter anymore what you're actually born doesn't matter anymore it's all
00:40:09.680
a choice and what's what's interesting is that this whole mindset around this all being a choice
00:40:14.720
is downstream of an imperialist and european descended culture which is one of the things i always point out
00:40:20.860
about and by that what i mean is when you point out they're like well i love muslims and i go well
00:40:25.360
you know muslims in pakistan have a lot of views that you're going to disagree with and they're like
00:40:28.480
well one day they'll agree with all my views because we will eradicate what makes their culture distinct
00:40:32.860
yeah you know so i i think that that's always really hilarious to me but anyway any any thoughts
00:40:38.780
simone before we close out here just horrified i i just i i can't but i mean it is so mainstream
00:40:45.780
this is dnd now this is wizard of the coast this is the world we live in now
00:40:51.940
it doesn't it it only makes the game more boring you've just taken out nobody got fired over this
00:41:03.280
but i mean you had more choices in the past that
00:41:08.180
yes you did have more choices society was more interesting i mean it's also like outside of dnd it's
00:41:17.620
it's it's unproductive it's stupid unproductive and it is sort of anti-reality and it shocks me even
00:41:27.920
more though is like bro you know i've said i suspect there to be as people begin to realize
00:41:33.560
that the mainstream right now is like i might be naming post-racism or other people might have
00:41:39.100
named it already but or post-scientific racism i think it's a sort of good full term for it
00:41:46.060
but it is the normative position within the online right right now it is the normative position among
00:41:53.480
youth these days if you talk to them who are not woke brainwashed it is not like our position that
00:42:00.180
we're trying to convince you of i'm sure the vast majority of our listeners when i hear this term
00:42:03.900
they're like oh yeah that describes my view of this concept and it's a view that's just sort of like
00:42:11.160
believe the evidence but don't be a spaz about it and start like overly building your life around it
00:42:21.300
basically yeah in the same way that you know when people are like well you know if x group was really
00:42:29.720
better at x or y would that not change your daily decisions it's like anybody who's done like a 23 and
00:42:35.100
me or like a genetics poll because that poll said that you were supposed to be good at something did
00:42:40.660
you decide to like change your life based on that were you like oh this poll says i'm gonna be really
00:42:45.720
good at coding i guess i'm gonna leave my job and become a coder even though i don't like coding no
00:42:50.000
you still do what you want to do like it matters so little and this is where i always talk about
00:42:55.020
when people are like oh well you know if you knew that you had x predilection like that would be
00:43:00.040
really dangerous people ask us about us with our kids you know because we get them genetically
00:43:03.200
sequenced and i'm like you never freaked out about people's horoscopes and and these people believe
00:43:07.920
this so how would this be different anyway i know i love that like far woke women they will be like
00:43:18.040
there is no difference between these two you know very distinct cultural and ethnic groups and then
00:43:24.240
i'm like well you know i was born on x months and they're like oh you're a scorpio well i need to look
00:43:29.320
i need to oh that this relationship will never work like it's so weird actually like i just want to be
00:43:34.980
like it's so weird that we are like discriminating on race people will freak the f out but if you
00:43:44.400
discriminate based on people are like that's totally normal like oh i won't date aries obviously
00:43:56.840
yeah it's not have you ever recognized that before yeah but it's it's just it's it's acceptable
00:44:03.560
because it's not race it's uh it's the month in which you were born which you also have no control
00:44:08.940
over but fortunately we now can discriminate on race it's it's been said they laid it out there's
00:44:13.580
just some rules for how to do it yeah rule number one to not be white no you can be white as long as
00:44:20.500
you're a democrat still have to be ashamed of your white privilege oh yeah you just have to say i'm
00:44:26.320
ashamed of it and but but you're and then find something else to you know you're like your pots and
00:44:33.320
you're trans and or non-binary and or suffering from severe mental disorders etc etc spoonie something
00:44:42.600
anyway i'm gonna go get the kids i'm gonna make your bulldog for dinner did you look at the video on
00:44:48.180
how they're cooked i'm gonna look at it right before i cook them but i'm gonna cook them before
00:44:52.660
i start the cooking sauteing the rice cake so they're totally cooked and then i'll reintegrate
00:44:56.660
them when i start simmering everything i can go in with the chicken okay when i put in the chicken
00:45:03.380
yeah i will do that or maybe like just after the chicken yeah that's the plan all right i love
00:45:10.240
you so much and thanks for horrifying me just when i think things can't get any crazier you blow my
00:45:15.820
mind so thanks for that world we're in so it goes she's so pretty so for dinner tonight are we doing
00:45:22.080
the the massive because she's about to give birth right and so she'll be out for a while and so she
00:45:27.340
wants to make like all of my favorite dishes in mass so they can be frozen and then easily preheat
00:45:33.080
like reheated so i want malcolm to still eat delicious homemade food like the what was it burmese
00:45:43.180
mint chicken that i made in this case i'm making bulldog fire chicken korean fire chicken but i just
00:45:49.760
i won't have i won't have the bandwidth to prepare it so we're gonna make it ahead of time and it's
00:45:56.500
gonna be perfect it's gonna be great yeah except here's actually malcolm's trick to bulldog which i
00:46:01.760
think is very interesting he basically wants to eat it like pizza without any carbs because as much
00:46:07.740
does he performatively as someone who has terrible health he actually like eats like has an intermittent
00:46:13.400
fasting mostly keto diet it's so weird this is pomegranate juice by the way yeah no you're like
00:46:20.300
you would you would never admit it but you actually like but the bulldog it's supposed to be in that way
00:46:25.980
bulldog is not eating with rice it's not eating with rice it has those korean like starchy rice
00:46:31.740
chunks in it but the way that malcolm likes it is normally bulldog is like kind of layered like in a
00:46:38.000
you know a dish like it's a little deep you spoon into it or well no chopstick into it but what malcolm
00:46:44.180
wants it to do is like basically when i when i prepare it like just spread it out very thinly
00:46:49.720
in like a a pie dish or on a baking sheet and then layer mozzarella cheese on top of it like a pizza
00:46:57.780
which is this is how it is traditionally not typically does have a top layer of mozzarella
00:47:01.000
cheese and then he eats it like that basically like a a crustless chicken and gochujang sauce like
00:47:09.100
cheese pizza which is really interesting and i get it like it maximizes the sort of pizza flavor
00:47:16.100
without the empty carbs because honestly yeah i mean i i freaking love deep dish pizza crust i love the
00:47:23.540
flakiness also like spicier and sweeter than a pizza and the car there is sugar in it or honey
00:47:29.480
or better because there's less diversity in them like with a pizza you've got to get the crust just
00:47:34.540
right and everything that's true and who wants the crust even when they fill the crust with cheese in
00:47:38.720
an attempt to redeem it which i appreciate it's still just it's still crust it's still crust but you
00:47:46.280
know what i actually appreciate that even koreans kind of inherently and intuitively understand this
00:47:50.160
because all of their pizzas are like don't worry we've put hot dogs in the crust don't worry we've
00:47:55.200
put like their crusts are disgusting but in theory and in theory they look amazing yeah they look
00:48:02.900
awesome like those little pointed like sausage infused cheese crusts it you'd think they'd be
00:48:10.140
great i never tried a pizza when we were in seoul because you were like they taste so terrible
00:48:14.460
at least we had that well no you know how terrible they taste did you try one of those like
00:48:19.340
a hot dog or corn dog things in seoul that look really good yes okay pizza is like if you had that
00:48:25.800
kind of bread and meat but it was an entire pizza you you know like when you taste it you're like this
00:48:31.860
is surprisingly disgusting like how it is it looks amazing like you see it like their little glazed
00:48:39.220
hot dog things yeah they have like corn dogs but the problem is is they're not corn dogs they're made
00:48:44.420
what with what i can only guess is is rice flour and it's just utterly flavorless and textureless
00:48:50.940
like just starchy just just dodgy and then you have the hot dog inside but it's just like this
00:48:56.600
why would you wrap i guess a hot dog bun but it's it's not but it's not soft and fluffy like a hot dog
00:49:02.820
barely flavorless compared to like a normal hot dog yeah it's just like the whole thing looks so freaking
00:49:08.140
good and it was so disappointing and i'm obsessed with corn dogs it's like one of my top pregnancy
00:49:13.340
cravings and how do you butcher that it's gotta imagine being in korea and not being able to get
00:49:18.860
a good corn dog seriously they have great what do i want to call them like croquettes like buns and
00:49:24.860
stuff i know yeah you just go to uh what's that called i was gonna say obon pan but no it's that's
00:49:30.460
that french parisian yeah it's it's the french they have it in the us too and i think people think
00:49:35.340
that they're actually french but they're no it's korean no what's it damn it what's it called
00:49:39.580
connection or the french i don't know something the place we were thinking of is paris baguette
00:49:45.260
and i'm always you know i i look at these in american cities like in manhattan or san francisco
00:49:49.580
and i'm like i wonder how many people who go here realize that this is extremely korean all the food here
00:49:55.260
is korean and this is a well-known korean chain that just didn't change its name to something like
00:50:00.540
korean baguette when it moved to america no but it's oh i love those yeah so at least they yeah
00:50:05.980
no they're they're like they can get it right so i don't know how they can get it so wrong with pizza
00:50:10.060
and corn dogs well or rice stock whatever they call them yeah and if you're not watching this because
00:50:17.420
i would have put some korea pizzas on on screen here uh you should google korean pizzas because
00:50:23.020
yeah just no for real yeah they're expensive too though they're pricey
00:50:32.220
when i die and i'm a dog then i'm gonna take care of the whole world and
00:50:41.340
oh do you mean you get all my stuff when i die yeah who told you about that
00:50:46.380
nobody i just failed it you just figured it out yourself yeah
00:50:50.300
wait so then are you going to try to kill me till you get my stuff
00:51:01.260
okay that makes sense i'm i'm done with that you make me a grandpa