Based Camp - Quaker Slave Ownership Rate 2X the South (How They Hid It & Birthed Woke)

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be discussing

00:00:04.180 how what we today call wokeism evolved out of the Quaker movement. And a lot of people have

00:00:13.580 posited many potential starts to wokeism as a metaphysical framework, as a moral framework,

00:00:20.800 as a collection of behaviors and patterns. And they're just wrong. They're just wrong.

00:00:26.400 There's a very clear trace of where the movement emerged, specifically from the Hicksite Quaker movement, how it grew, how it used the Quaker foothold within the Northeastern education system in the United States and the West Coast education system in the United States to indoctrinate a generation, and how it killed its original host generations ago at this point.

00:00:53.000 the Hicksite Quaker tradition is dead. And we've mentioned some of those things. Wokeism as a

00:00:59.000 cultural parasite is parasitoidal. It does not care about the host surviving. A parasitoid,

00:01:05.720 if you're not familiar, is like, have you ever seen one of those worms or insects where you can

00:01:09.800 see the worms crawling underneath its skin and then it explodes? It's a parasite that's goal

00:01:15.680 is to kill you as part of its life cycle. So while all of this evil came from the Quaker movement, 1.00

00:01:21.420 we still have to mourn what happened to it as well. All right. And I will just be reading from 1.00

00:01:28.940 one of our books, I think our best book, The Pragmatist Guide to Crafting Religion. And it's

00:01:33.040 at the end of the section on how you determine what is true and what isn't true. Question though,

00:01:39.680 are you going to address what if Althist's strong assertions that it was the Puritans and not the

00:01:46.340 Quakers. To say that wokeism evolved from Puritanism requires a cartoonish understanding

00:01:52.400 of history. Oh, Gauntlet Throne. Should we have a debate with him? Well, no. You need to believe

00:01:59.800 that Puritan culture was the culture that the urban monoculture framed it as. And one of the

00:02:06.540 things that we'll be going over is the urban monoculture, which came downstream of Quaker

00:02:11.260 cultural framings simply lied about the cultural sensitivities of puritans the puritans for example

00:02:17.700 were extremely likely to like they wrote so sexually graphically that up until the 1900s

00:02:25.140 puritan works had to be censored puritan like a lot of the things that people think about puritans

00:02:30.200 are just untrue but if you are talking about which group was famously insanely prudish it was it was

00:02:38.300 the quakers yeah yeah they were so prudish the quote that smone often loves is they women would

00:02:44.020 describe everything from their breasts to their what was it from basically their neck to their

00:02:49.240 ankles if there was something wrong it would be my stomach it doesn't matter if it was like their

00:02:53.400 heart palpitations or they had severe you know uncomfortable mentioning everything here um which

00:03:00.760 is sort of antithetical to the way the puritans approached it which is just a we look full-bodied

00:03:06.420 at the sins of man and only through overcoming them have we proven mastery by hiding from them

00:03:13.860 we haven't proven mastery yeah one of the other patterns of like pedestalizing children is these

00:03:18.740 wise sage you will get into moralizers yeah yeah let's get started here okay what about the quakers

00:03:24.860 weren't the quakers morally ahead of their time and super nice weren't they leaders of the

00:03:29.480 abolition movement or something this is certainly the version of quakers we learned about in the

00:03:34.220 school system that was dominated by the urban monoculture. So we were shocked upon our review

00:03:39.600 of the actual stats and maybe more than a little bitter because we felt misled. Around 42% of

00:03:46.720 Maryland Quakers in early America owned slaves. And this is from Carol KL 1983. This sample was

00:03:53.500 taken from Maryland Wills between 1669 and 1750. Among Quaker leaders in Philadelphia, 70% owned

00:04:01.500 slaves this sample was taken from the philadelphia yearly meeting 1681 to 1705 even if you go with

00:04:08.600 the lower number this is so that's 42 percent of quakers owning slaves this is higher than the rate

00:04:15.000 of slain ownership of slave ownership of any culture or group in the 13 colonies wait wait

00:04:23.760 even more than like the southern colonies dramatically higher than the southern colonies

00:04:28.900 i forgot about this at the southern colonies only around 20 percent to five percent of household 0.96

00:04:36.040 owned slaves oh right because it was really a rich person thing there yeah yeah with quakers it was 0.74

00:04:40.680 40 percent um the reason i go into this is and if you have this view that like if you're like wow 0.78

00:04:48.800 this is really different than the version of the quakers i learned about in school

00:04:53.740 And the reason is, is because Quakers, if it was Quakerism that the urban monoculture

00:04:59.820 evolved out of, it would make perfect sense that it would maintain this trait of trying 0.99

00:05:05.600 to constantly frame the Quakers as morally decent when they were anything but morally 0.96

00:05:11.480 decent. 0.91

00:05:11.920 They were the most morally repulsive founding group within the Americas by an order of magnitude.

00:05:18.460 Because not only did they practice things like slavery at a higher rate, but they then

00:05:23.100 acted like they didn't do it which to me i just had this immense moral response you know discussed

00:05:30.200 that if you're going to do a sin at least own it don't pretend like you were leading the abolitionists

00:05:36.320 when you were not almost all of the leading abolitionists were calvinists which we'll go

00:05:40.260 into and puritans more specifically there i think there was like one or two quakers but we'll go

00:05:44.140 into this more so contrast this with puritan communities which was while less attested seem

00:05:50.280 to have a slave ownership rate between 0.5 and 2%. This is from Rowan R. 2021. 0.5 to 2% versus 40%.

00:06:01.360 Suffice to say, the tale of the whale ship of Essex tells us what happens to BIPOCs who put 1.00

00:06:08.920 themselves in the same boat as Quakers, or any justicle of today for that matter, despite the 1.00

00:06:15.280 incessant self-framing as the quote-unquote good guys hint the moment things went bad the Essex 0.89

00:06:21.320 Quaker sailors ate their BIPOC compatriots first they claimed their this uncanny skew was the 0.91

00:06:28.860 product of a series of random draws so just imagine oh no oh no a boat gets lost it's a it's 0.58

00:06:36.620 a Quaker group and they had some BIPOCs wisdom from various groups I think some were named

00:06:41.500 american subs from black so et cetera uh and they they frame it to them in the way the urban

00:06:46.140 monoculture always does it's just a random draw the straws totally fair 100 fair yes that's just

00:06:53.020 a hundred percent fair four people and they all that doesn't sound statistically likely but by

00:06:59.740 the time it's the last one you can't really do anything can you because we are the nice ones

00:07:05.500 we're the quakers no i think this is important to know right people go off on on me always

00:07:10.700 I rip on when people are like,

00:07:12.260 oh, Malcolm, you dig so hard into Jews. 1.00

00:07:14.260 You dig so hard into Catholics.

00:07:22.580 Why isn't anyone attacking him?

00:07:24.720 It's freezing out?

00:07:25.700 No, I think it's the sign.

00:07:27.380 Well, the sign from Die Hard 3 was clearly racist.

00:07:29.820 Obviously, but I think we went too broad.

00:07:32.120 Everybody.

00:07:32.740 I mean, who is that offending?

00:07:34.260 Everybody? 1.00

00:07:35.740 I always say the OG culture 1.00

00:07:37.600 that I have a hate boner for is Quakers. 1.00

00:07:39.500 and you really see it in our books it was a number one culture from the get-go like these guys are 1.00

00:07:46.740 evil with the face of goodness actually you know the ai thing where it's like the smiley face on 0.64

00:07:52.540 like the hug off monster that's quakers for you yeah that's quakers for me right the but anyway

00:07:58.360 to continue to those who have only heard the cartoon version of quaker history and find our

00:08:02.940 claims shocking perhaps you're thinking maybe the quakers own slaves at a high rate but maybe they

00:08:08.660 worked really hard to end slavery right that's what we've heard about quakers sure search for

00:08:14.980 famous quaker abolitionists and you get names like eliza hicks a quaker who urged boycotts and

00:08:19.800 benjamin lay who theatrically flung blood on people and made a big scene about how opposed

00:08:24.700 he was to slavery as you read more about such figures you will find none of these activities

00:08:29.440 actually did anything to end slavery and none of them did anything other than complain and it

00:08:35.180 helped in some small parts of the Underground Railroad. Now, contrast this with the major

00:08:42.320 Calvinist abolitionists. And you get names of people like John Brown of the Harper's Ferry

00:08:47.280 in Bleeding Kansas, or Newton Knight, working with Malcolm's ancestors in the Free State of Jones.

00:08:52.780 If you're familiar with these two figures, these are people who actually went out and

00:08:57.260 tried to free the slaves, right? Like they tried, they didn't go around flinging blood on people or

00:09:04.640 something like that they on the ground were like if slavery is immoral then i have to do something

00:09:10.300 that's functionally going to end it not just make a big show of wanting it to be over we have heard

00:09:16.340 if you're not familiar with the free state of jones this was the thing that my ancestors were

00:09:19.280 involved in it was a breakaway state from the the south that was a state that tried to like

00:09:25.400 integrate slaves with the non-slave population and fight against the confederacy and uh they

00:09:30.860 did really well. There's a movie about them. They're pretty cool. Anyway, we have heard that

00:09:35.080 Quakers may have played more important a role in abolition in the UK. But in the US, at least, 0.93

00:09:39.760 their performance was, well, overwhelmingly performative rather than results-oriented.

00:09:44.280 Now, perhaps you're thinking, come on, guys, that is really harsh. Wasn't Pennsylvania the

00:09:48.680 first state to ban slavery? While some pro-Quaker historians will frame it such as a fact,

00:09:55.600 an assertion that Pennsylvania was the first state to ban slavery intentionally misrepresents

00:09:59.840 what happened vermont a majority congregationalist calvinist state banned slavery at its founding in

00:10:06.200 1770 then built that ban into the state's constitution in 7077 these bands immediately

00:10:12.860 freed slaves above a certain age pennsylvania did not even put a high duty on slavery until 1973

00:10:19.440 so three years after vermont had banned it but vermont wasn't technically a state yet so they're

00:10:26.700 like oh like a full colony oh okay okay and when they did ultimately ban slavery in 1780 they

00:10:35.120 nevertheless allowed slave owners to keep their slaves just banning the purchasing of new slaves

00:10:41.140 no the calvinist state actually banned slavery contrast this was puritan massachusetts who freed

00:10:48.520 all of the slaves upon banning them just three years later so the quakers just pulled up the 0.94

00:10:52.820 slavery ladder. They just kept their slaves. Yeah, the same year of the American Revolution 1.00

00:10:58.100 and the Treaty of Paris. So sure, the Quakers did ban slavery first, but only if you discount

00:11:04.040 because it had not joined the Union, and only if you count a partial ban on slavery. Even within

00:11:10.060 Pennsylvania, Quaker communities did not spearhead the anti-slavery movement. They just happened to 1.00

00:11:15.340 be the group with the most power. In reality, the state's first anti-slavery protests were

00:11:20.460 exclusively led by Mennonites, and the first local slavery bans were enacted within the Mennonite

00:11:26.800 communities. As a historian of the protest said, Mennonites never had slaves and would not even buy

00:11:33.080 something if they said it had come through the labor of the slave. They viewed slavery as a

00:11:37.180 quote-unquote Quaker thing and just walked away and lived apart. So that's a quote, by the way, 0.52

00:11:43.180 by Lane 2012. Mennonites, you're not, this is the Amish and the Mennonites and everything like that,

00:11:48.900 all the Anabaptist groups are in this. The Amish literally in their writings sought of slavery as 0.99

00:11:55.300 a Quaker institution. This wasn't because they didn't know about the Puritans and the Southerners.

00:12:00.320 They just, of all the cultural groups, they associated Quakers with perpetuating slavery

00:12:05.760 the most, okay? So while the Quakers were eventually against slavery, they were, so far

00:12:13.320 as we can tell at least, the least anti-slavery of the anti-slavery groups. Oh, for goodness sake,

00:12:18.500 you might be thinking, at least Quakers were nice to Native Americans. I read that in a book

00:12:23.100 somewhere. This appears to be a manipulation of history, but not quite as bad as the one

00:12:28.340 that Quakers have built around slavery. Quakers indeed had better relations with local Native 0.92

00:12:34.020 American communities, but this seems to have as much or more to do with the communities than the

00:12:39.360 Quakers. To quote David Hackett Fisher's book Albion Seeds, another feature of the Delaware

00:12:44.200 Valley, the Natives were friendly and very different from the more militant tribes of the

00:12:48.280 lower chesapeake and upper new england williams penn's indian policy would have been disastrous

00:12:53.220 failure in maryland or virginia just as it later failed in western pennsylvania so it would seem

00:12:59.600 that the quakers were merely granted a convenient opportunity to be nice to native american

00:13:03.940 populations and history sort of smudged the facts over time but why trust the storytellers let's

00:13:09.440 look more at the concrete numbers to determine whether quakers treated local native americans

00:13:13.860 with more kindness than their Puritan counterparts. There are nearly 10,500 remaining Delaware

00:13:20.020 Indians, Leno and Lefe left, falling from a population of 1,500 back during the colonies.

00:13:26.840 Contrast this with the Abenaki, with whom the Puritans interacted, who now have a population

00:13:31.620 of around 9,775, falling from a post-smallpox population of 10,000. If Quakers did treat the 0.97

00:13:39.520 Delaware Indians differently, they found some other way to undermine them, as if Indian populations 0.60

00:13:44.480 within the Quaker neighborhoods don't seem to have survived at the rate the ones around Puritans did.

00:13:49.900 So it's like Quakers are like, we were so nice to the Native Americans we lived alongside. And I'm

00:13:55.280 like, oh, great. Can I ask some of those Native Americans how they fared? Oh, well, not many of

00:14:02.700 them survived. It was a hard time for all of us back then. And weren't you one of the wealthiest

00:14:09.020 groups in the early colonies oh yes and we gave them plenty of gifts but somehow they just didn't

00:14:15.280 make it we tried our best the point being is the facts on the ground are not not great okay what

00:14:21.580 about women you might say you might be wondering were the quakers not the greatest advocates of

00:14:26.440 gender equality and you might be beginning to see a little similarity to the urban monoculture with

00:14:31.300 quaker communities act like you're helping everyone but actually be completely morally 0.67

00:14:37.640 corrupt because your actions don't matter and this is we'll get to this in a bit but this is 0.99

00:14:42.240 how it came out of it this is the social hack that quakerism invented at its core you think they were 0.58

00:14:48.100 the first to pioneer it i'm not familiar with any other group in history that cared so little about

00:14:57.300 their actual actions in contrast with the way that they decided to frame their own morality

00:15:03.340 every other group i'm aware of in history at least in some tentative way tried to tie their actions

00:15:10.180 and the consequences of those actions to whether or not they were moral people the quakers really

00:15:15.840 like like worse than deontologists because the deontologists at least have like a set of rules

00:15:19.960 and they're like well if everyone obeys these rules society will be good but quakerism pioneered

00:15:24.120 this idea of does it feel like you're being moral then you're being moral um and nobody had really

00:15:31.620 come up with this concept before and it turns out it's a very good concept at spreading among

00:15:35.860 certain types of educated communities that are very good at arguing themselves into believing

00:15:39.960 they're good people but now back to the topic of a women while it is true that quakers touted gender

00:15:45.160 equality going so far as having a saying in souls there is no sex quaker population stacks don't

00:15:52.480 imply they acted on this belief where it mattered for example quaker women were twice as likely as

00:15:58.360 men to be illiterate at the height of their influence 20 to 40 i forgot about this 1706

00:16:05.000 only slightly different from the super sexist calvinist difference 16 to 50 in the 1760s

00:16:13.180 it seems the only way the quakers were actually more in favor of gender equality manifested in 0.66

00:16:18.860 the burden of proselytization being placed on women as well often resulting in quaker women

00:16:24.560 being beaten or even hanged for their efforts so like the urban monoculture quakers claim they're 0.81

00:16:30.320 pro-women right the urban monoculture is like oh yeah we're pro-women that's why we allow them to

00:16:34.180 be sleep around and be used by men and like they're responsible for all of our advocacy work

00:16:39.240 and you know they have to do you know it's it's a yeah we'll use women more and that makes us more 0.63

00:16:45.820 pro-women did anyone ever accuse the the puritans of being super sexist yeah yeah i mean the the

00:16:53.940 quaker cartoon version of history generally frames puritans as being pretty sexist when in reality

00:16:59.780 they were not particularly sexist they were not they were not as gender equal as the backwoods 0.84

00:17:05.080 people the backwoods people were wholly gender equal or near gender equal but the puritans were

00:17:09.000 fairly gender equal the quakers had extremely high hierarchy within their culture but they like

00:17:15.240 pretended like it didn't exist and so it didn't exist i mean they were famous as you know for 0.96

00:17:20.240 looking down on everyone else like they saw everyone else is like subhuman and they cared

00:17:24.300 a lot about your family line how long you had been in the community very much puritans cared 0.96

00:17:29.740 about lineage too so puritans did too but it's striking was in quaker communities because they 0.92

00:17:35.340 gave off this oh we only care you know like we're we're truly equalist and then they have this

00:17:40.680 hyper fixation on like family lineage and everything like that and having a very distinctly

00:17:46.120 set apart aristocracy which is really like the urban monoculture you you have your woke aristocracy

00:17:51.160 but they frame themselves as not being an aristocracy like the actress who goes on stage

00:17:55.920 and is like you could have no freedom on stolen land and so the tribe that used to own her land

00:18:01.520 reached out to her and was like hey can we have our land back and she's like hang up the phone

00:18:05.180 right it doesn't matter her actions what matters is what she says on the issue of moralities

00:18:10.860 quaker will enthusiastically extol their virtues through history books however if you actually

00:18:15.880 turn to look at the sources that deal in hard numbers, we see Quakers had very little motivation

00:18:20.960 to act on their moral compass. And when they did, they only did so with great compromise.

00:18:26.380 For making this point, we know we will get a lot of heat from those trying to defend the myths that

00:18:32.020 they were virtuous rather than virtue signaling colonial Quakers. Still, if we are to build new

00:18:36.720 cultures, we must understand how to enforce moral behavior. If the Quaker system was bad at doing so, 0.89

00:18:43.020 we would make the world objectively worse place by allowing the myths to perpetuate. 1.00

00:18:48.800 To understand why justicles are apparently so unmotivated to take concrete actions

00:18:54.220 that enact their values in the world,

00:18:56.460 instead of merely signaling a desire for those values to be enacted,

00:19:00.280 we can investigate why the Quakers were against slavery.

00:19:03.240 Note here, the term justicle is one that we had coined earlier in the book

00:19:06.800 that means a moral system that decides what's moral based on whether you feel that thing is

00:19:14.760 moral in the moment quakers wrote extensively about their distaste for slavery so we know

00:19:20.940 their logic to quakers slavery violated the quote-unquote golden rule and that term golden

00:19:25.860 rule is everywhere in their anti-slavery material essentially because quakers would not personally

00:19:30.440 like the feeling of being slaves slavery was bad they somehow managed to take a topic like slavery

00:19:35.960 and make it about their own feelings because quakers opposition to slavery is based on personal

00:19:41.960 feelings recall that a major quaker standard of evidence is gained through personal introspection

00:19:47.300 and investigation of one's emotions is it easy to see how they might compromise on the principle

00:19:52.420 if owning slaves made them feel better and we'll see this in the urban monoculture you know you

00:19:57.980 will see somebody was like pro-union pro-socialism signs like on their computer like a star bucks

00:20:05.280 communists but using a apple phone made by near slave labor they don't care they don't care about 0.92

00:20:12.100 thinking about it if it makes them happy just like the quakers of the colonial period quakers 0.81

00:20:17.600 reasoning behind anti-slavery sentiment stands in stark contrast to calvinist distaste for slavery

00:20:23.020 which emerged from a general dislike of any institution that removed individual agency

00:20:27.320 in other words whereas quakers disavowed slavery because it would make them feel bad if it happened

00:20:33.280 to them, Calvinists opposed slavery because it represented the immutable evil of removing human

00:20:38.940 agency. And you can see that the Calvinist reason for disliking slavery led to much more moral action

00:20:45.400 than the Quaker reason, which is the core point I'm making here is it's because, okay, but if the

00:20:49.820 only reason that slavery is bad is because I'd feel bad if I were a slave and I let my slaves go, 0.54

00:20:57.960 well, then I'm going to lose a major investment and I'm going to feel bad. And because my feelings

00:21:01.720 are like closer to me i'm gonna be a little bit more attentive to those right a justical mindset

00:21:06.800 leads to immoral action because at its core this philosophy is based on the aesthetic of thinking

00:21:12.660 good not doing good justicles gain status within their social circles by loudly protesting the

00:21:19.480 injustices of the world rather than by making actual sacrifices to make the world a better 0.67

00:21:23.480 place through direct actions anyway i have a disclaimer about how not all quakers are bad

00:21:29.440 people but you know this is back when i was trying to be a good guy writing this book now i'm like

00:21:33.280 oh whatever of course of course that's true but this is more fun so actually i'm going to skip

00:21:37.880 this part here so i can get right into the origins of the super virus all right and if you want to

00:21:44.960 read that part you should get our book and read it it's a good book so as man spread across the

00:21:49.580 world he brought dogs with him early humans who settled in the americas were no different

00:21:54.240 Their trail-based canine companions genetically drifted from old-world breeds, making American

00:21:59.480 varieties fascinatingly unique. Sadly, when the Europeans came, they killed them, almost all of

00:22:04.720 them. The only survivors were the Malmutes and a few related Arctic breeds. While people claim 0.99

00:22:09.920 that breeds like the Peruvian hairless dog, the Exilmalti, and the Chihuahua are pre-Columbian,

00:22:14.560 DNA studies show that this is not true. They are less than 4% pre-Columbian.

00:22:18.440 but we wouldn't be telling you this story if the ending weren't so clear cut. Dogs catch a form of

00:22:24.960 transmissible cancer called canine transmissible venereal tumors, CTVT. A long time ago, a single

00:22:32.180 dog developed a tumor with this very unique ability. And all dogs today that have CTVT

00:22:37.960 carry an iteration of that original dog's tumor. So when a dog gets a CTVT tumor,

00:22:43.860 they are growing that inside them. When a genetic testing was performed on the CTVT tumor,

00:22:49.860 it was found to come from a literally pre-Columbian breed of dog, making this extinct

00:22:56.300 species of dog also the most prolific single quote unquote dog alive today. While that pre-Columbian

00:23:03.480 dog died of cancer, they did so in a way that functionally granted them everlasting life

00:23:08.900 through the DNA was in that cancer and all of the tumors it has produced. By this what I mean,

00:23:14.440 if you collectively took all of the dogs that had this tumor and put it in a mound,

00:23:18.660 that would be the single largest mound of one dog's DNA on earth today. And it is this

00:23:23.920 pre-Columbian DNA. From what we can gather, the super virus, the parasitoid we discussed at the

00:23:29.780 beginning of this book, first evolved within Quaker culture, and more specifically the Hicksite

00:23:34.240 branch by decimating hicksite birth rates the super virus has long since relegated everything

00:23:40.020 culturally unique about hicksite quakers to the dustbin of history that said it's tumors the

00:23:45.480 tumors that now wear the skin of countless victims through which it acts it's almost entirely hicksite 0.92

00:23:52.240 on a dna level along with that long dead pre-columbian dog hicksite quaker culture is at once 1.00

00:23:59.140 functionally extinct and the single most important culture in the world today as a reminder hicksite 0.98

00:24:05.080 quakers hold personal emotional states as their highest standard of evidence while orthodox

00:24:09.440 quakers believe their personal emotional experience is important but subordinate to the bible

00:24:12.860 so we explained the two groups a bit earlier in the book i guess i'm going to need to give you a

00:24:16.440 quick here so quakerism as a religious community believes that truth like if you go to one of their

00:24:24.300 meetings it's a bunch of people sitting in a room and when one of them feels moved by god to speak

00:24:30.380 because the core source of truth is inside of every individual they stand up and they speak

00:24:35.200 and that is where truth comes from that is how their meeting houses work let me notice a lot

00:24:40.020 of similarities the urban monoculture here but the the there was a big split in the community

00:24:46.260 one group the orthodox quakers believed that okay yes this personal voice that spoke inside you was

00:24:53.440 important, but it was not as important as the Bible. The Bible still took precedent. If your

00:24:59.580 internal voice conflicted with what the Bible said to do, then the Bible was correct. The Hicksite 1.00

00:25:04.440 said, no, the internal voice inside you takes precedence even to the Bible itself. And as soon

00:25:13.420 as you take that position, pretty quickly, the Bible just doesn't matter at all. Right. Because

00:25:18.540 yeah i think like anyone who has struggled with addiction knows this because you you're

00:25:23.940 if we want to personify it like your addiction can convince you to do kind of anything and i

00:25:30.120 think when you just choose to pretend that something you feel in personally is like god

00:25:37.100 speaking to you you can justify any of your actions as being divinely inspired or endorsed

00:25:43.460 in some way well this is this is where ideas that are prevalently urban monoculture like search

00:25:48.420 yourself you know like you know look for self-actualization um look for self-acceptance

00:25:54.720 these ideas are completely antithetical to puritan culture they are almost a literal inversion of 0.97

00:26:00.520 puritan culture whereas they are perfectly harmonious with quaker culture of this yeah 0.89

00:26:04.820 yeah some cultural commentators draw connections between the parasitoidal super virus and puritan

00:26:09.900 ideals, suggesting the virus has a Puritan origin. Given what you have read thus far about Puritan

00:26:16.420 and other Calvinist cultures, it should be immediately clear how utterly buffoonish this

00:26:20.260 idea is. If we were going to be as uncharitable as possible, we would say Puritan culture is 0.99

00:26:25.660 superficially one based on a veneer of intellectualism, performative stoicism,

00:26:30.940 and inward focus, aspirations of self-perfection, and ruthless capitalism, independent research,

00:26:36.160 and an uninterested disgust towards outsiders therefore unironically cultural movements

00:26:41.380 often framed as being in direct opposition to the super virus such as the red pill men going their

00:26:47.180 own way mig tau and followers of jordan peterson and other pseudo-intellect stoic inspiring right

00:26:52.660 wing self-improvement junkies represent cultural viruses derived from the puritan strain of

00:26:57.280 american thought um so it's not that puritanism didn't generate any of its own viruses they're

00:27:03.600 just in a different camp. The American Puritan tradition of, and again, I'm trying to be

00:27:08.460 uncharitable here, performative intellectualism, stoicism, you know, obsession with personal

00:27:14.220 self-improvement. We see these cultures, like it's very clear when you run into one of these

00:27:18.300 cultures, you're like, oh, you're a descendant of the Puritans. But these are the self-improvement

00:27:23.300 cultures, right? Like we see them all around us, but they're typically against the urban monoculture.

00:27:28.760 it appears this misconception comes from a tendency to frame moralizing shaming and shunning

00:27:36.540 as punishment for apostasy as uniquely puritan this is silly as that pattern of behavior exists

00:27:42.940 across virtually all hard cultures throughout history including many that thrive today the

00:27:48.600 various pop culture viruses with which our species currently contends feature clear signs

00:27:54.120 of the cultures from which they evolved even if most people don't identify these cultivars is

00:27:58.720 being viral secular descendants of their earlier cultures. Consider the rational and effective

00:28:03.900 altruist movements, which by our estimation, at least are clearly derived from Jewish culture.

00:28:08.900 Not only are a huge chunk of the rationalist and effective altruist movements founding members 0.92

00:28:13.620 and many of their current prominent members, ancestrally Jewish, despite Jews representing

00:28:17.740 a vanishingly small percentage of the population, around 2% for people who don't know, but the

00:28:22.220 communities, and I'd argue of the leading members of the EA community and the rationalist community,

00:28:27.460 those of jewish justin are probably 75 like it is really gets that dense oh god it must be it must

00:28:34.380 be i if you said it's under 50 i would poop myself it is it is a jewish cultural movement

00:28:41.440 but the community's constant debating of moral ontology the habit of throwing ideas at the wall 0.93

00:28:48.220 and masochistically offering financial rewards to get people to argue against them and intense

00:28:53.640 trust in institutions to develop metrics to effectively distribute capital could not be 0.78

00:28:59.420 more jewish there is there's like the what i talk about the rationalists will literally

00:29:04.400 like put up bounties that are like debate me no other culture does that that is jewish to its

00:29:10.760 core okay in the same way that like manosphere culture is pretty puritan to the core rationalist 0.78

00:29:16.800 and effective altruist cultures even like the idea of you just like sit down and be like i'm gonna

00:29:21.500 to like white knuckle it and work until i become the best version of myself such a so amazingly

00:29:27.480 good and cool and effective like for an example of like what puritans did puritans specifically

00:29:32.700 settled in regions that had lots of rocks in them to make farming harder for themselves and it was

00:29:39.460 also uniquely cold it was very cold and it was rocky soil yes yeah yeah and and they chose this

00:29:45.620 they could have chosen the more fertile land that the quakers chose they said no no no no no no no

00:29:50.720 off i want the worst land there is because the hard work will strengthen my spirit if that that

00:29:57.460 does not sound like the urban monoculture that sounds like the minosphere anyway here or at

00:30:04.000 least the healthy part of the manosphere obviously there's like incel self apart but whatever 0.53

00:30:08.160 rationalist and effective altruist cultures even maintained the jewish superpower of being able to

00:30:13.420 split apart and recombine with menopho conflict while groups like rationalist effective altruists

00:30:18.300 then dark effective altruists may posture as though they disagree with each other they also

00:30:22.680 enthusiastically jump at opportunities to engage in debate with members of other factions

00:30:27.780 something that can't be said for the various viral descendants of the quaker or calvinist culture

00:30:33.480 and this you really see eas rationalists dark intellectuals you know our group we all debate

00:30:43.040 each other all the time we all talk to each other all the time you go to two branches of woke culture

00:30:48.280 and it's like they fight like cats and dogs the moment you put them together a really good point

00:30:52.800 i hadn't thought about that this is also true for various branches within the manosphere you know

00:30:57.700 you you you you put them together there they get along slightly better but different branches of

00:31:02.500 puritanism got along slightly better yeah but jews always like if you jews like an orthodox jew will 0.84

00:31:07.840 find like a a you know a reformed jew and they'll be like he's a jew and i'm like why why would you 0.99

00:31:12.440 even do that to yourself like you're it would be so much easier to be jewish and there would be so 0.72

00:31:16.440 much fewer jewish conspiracies if orthodox jews could just be like yeah the people who don't

00:31:21.060 practice any of our traditions are no longer functionally jewish for real yeah like you don't

00:31:25.760 qualify you're not doing the work yeah because if you look at the people who are actually doing a 1.00

00:31:30.080 lot of the like bad jewish stuff yeah i mean that's what blew my mind i think maybe just 0.90

00:31:35.560 maybe i'm uniquely ignorant but i had no idea that if you just if you were matrilinearly jewish

00:31:42.520 you would be considered by so many jews to be jewish when i was like no you can't be a part

00:31:47.880 of a religion if you're not doing the work if you haven't i guess i'm just i'm so used to like

00:31:52.400 baptismal based religions where like until you're baptized into the church until you

00:31:57.100 actively opt in and dunk yourself in water like cold running water you're not in you know like

00:32:04.140 and then you have to keep going to church you need to like re-up your commitment you know it's like

00:32:07.780 you're not paying your dues you're not tithing like what are you you know where's your temple

00:32:12.160 recommend like there's just so many things that i'd grown up assuming we're like you're not

00:32:16.660 religious unless and here's this group that's like what oh you know all your mothers before you were

00:32:21.880 jewish so you're in fun fact on this point by the way yeah this is what our entire track the

00:32:29.160 question that ranks judaism comes from because it's a fairly recent cultural innovation and if

00:32:33.360 you find this to be an interesting topic i strongly suggest that i i think it's one of the most

00:32:37.300 interesting of of the tracks if you're if you're really into cultural anthropology and not jewish

00:32:42.720 if you're jewish don't watch it it's very offensive it's easily our our thing that gets

00:32:47.120 us called anti-semites most frequently but we're just a cultural look at the the historical

00:32:51.080 evidence we've been able to find but anyway here awareness of the origins of the super virus is

00:32:56.420 important as it yields a better understanding of its nuances why they exist and actions it may take

00:33:01.820 in the future it also helps explain why we subjected you to a quaker history lesson the

00:33:06.920 super virus does not just have quote unquote some features of quaker culture it is quite literally

00:33:11.820 a secular iteration of quaker culture's hicksite interpretation from its core outlooks on reality 0.60

00:33:17.380 to its governant practices and pet projects this is why colonial quaker culture presents

00:33:23.080 such a prophetic view of today's dominant pop culture morality not because it was really ahead

00:33:28.680 of its time but because it ended up becoming the dominant pop culture and if you're interested in

00:33:33.400 this, read David Hackett's Albion Seed, just skip to the Quaker chapters, and you'll be like,

00:33:38.240 this sounds like somebody was following an Occupy Wall Street protest or something.

00:33:43.760 Just all of the antics they got up to. Let's start with the concept of call-out culture.

00:33:48.840 While Puritans would seek out and punish community members who violated their rules,

00:33:53.380 it was rare for them to target individuals outside their communities. Puritans were interested in

00:33:58.040 creating the perfect world within their settlements and did not really care much about 0.84

00:34:02.080 what people outside their settlements were doing, unless it evolved the degradation of human will,

00:34:07.240 e.g. slavery. On the other hand, you will see numerous colonial era cases of Quakers publicly

00:34:13.040 shaming non-Quakers to goad them into changing their ways. In colonial Quaker culture, an 0.92

00:34:18.120 individual could raise their status within their own culture by, quote unquote, calling out, and

00:34:22.920 this was even the word used in Quaker culture, those of different cultures, which is wild, right?

00:34:27.360 like most cultures don't do this most cultures are not particularly concerned with performatively

00:34:33.480 calling out ways that like the backwoods tradition doesn't do this the backwoods tradition would

00:34:39.160 never go into like a quaker settlement and like start chastising quakers for not following 0.98

00:34:44.040 backwoods tradition could you imagine yeah puritans didn't do this cavalier may have done 0.51

00:34:49.760 this a little bit but not much quakers did no i feel like cavalier most of these other ones were

00:34:55.240 like very prideful and exclusionary i think maybe one thing that really shows the connection between

00:35:00.060 the quakers and the urban monoculture is the fact that they wanted to convert everyone to their way

00:35:06.220 of life whereas these other groups were like no you can't be one of me like you're not aristocratic 0.95

00:35:12.500 you're not moral enough you're not hardcore enough you know all of them had their own exclusionary 0.87

00:35:18.580 things yeah and they were extremely exclusionary the puritans when they take on indentured servants

00:35:24.740 they took on indentured servants at a very low rate because they would have a moral test for

00:35:29.600 the indentured servants and like require moral background checks onto these people because

00:35:33.900 they're like well if you're going to become a part of our community we have to make sure that 0.81

00:35:36.820 you have the moral fortitude to be a true puritan they only wanted top performers even if it was

00:35:41.640 servants in their community yeah they're a very high bar it was it it's an interesting the way

00:35:46.660 they did it they were extremely elitist but as soon as you were in the community then you were

00:35:51.380 equal, right? But the bar to get in the community, the Quakers were the exact opposite. They said 1.00

00:35:56.580 they would accept anyone. But when you joined, if you weren't from one of the ancestral ruling

00:36:02.300 groups within the Quaker community, you were treated like trash, which is very similar to 0.96

00:36:06.580 the urban monoculture. Oh yeah, the Hollywood star goes, oh yes, we accept everyone. But of course,

00:36:11.880 you know, next time we're in church, I get moved by God, not you. I just want to make sure you

00:36:16.260 understand the secret rule about who's actually allowed to stand up and talk today.

00:36:20.980 without getting side eyes from Mrs. Johnson.

00:36:23.820 Very, very much a Karenocracy, right? 0.99

00:36:26.860 Quaker priorities and how Quakers demonstrate those priorities 0.97

00:36:30.780 have strong parallels with those held by the virus.

00:36:33.540 For example, Quakers condemn exhibitions of animals at places like zoos

00:36:38.100 as, quote, hurtful to their, the animal's, feelings.

00:36:42.060 With Elizabeth Drinker reporting,

00:36:44.720 it looked so sorrowful.

00:36:46.400 I pitied the poor thing and I wished it in its own country.

00:36:49.740 or some quakers chose to protest with squire wharton spastically jumping into a bull baiting

00:36:59.000 ring a sport that pitted dogs against bulls and subsequently calling out the people in the crowd

00:37:05.000 by name does this not sound like greta thornburg by the way like jumping in oh she never put

00:37:11.700 herself at physical i guess she did on the boat this might be the only time a quaker put himself

00:37:15.820 at physical risk but like the idea of spastically throwing yourself in like a bullring and start

00:37:21.740 yelling at people in the crowd by name how dare you puritans never never did stuff like this

00:37:30.300 when when puritans didn't like something they would get together as a community and they'd be

00:37:34.860 like okay i don't like what these people are doing we should probably kill them all and try to get

00:37:39.720 them to repent so they don't go to hell right that's a good plan okay good plan yeah um no but

00:37:44.820 It is very different, right?

00:37:46.420 Like, we're going to come together in the community.

00:37:48.100 They were not dramatic, let's say, right?

00:37:51.200 Like, they got stuff done.

00:37:52.900 They were dramatic.

00:37:54.100 They told their kids to stare into open graves and contemplate death.

00:37:57.800 You don't think that's a little dramatic?

00:37:58.960 They also chose colors.

00:38:01.120 Sad colors.

00:38:02.460 Sad colors.

00:38:03.120 That's literally what they called the colors that they like best. 0.96

00:38:05.700 Sad colors is what you were supposed to wear as a Puritan,

00:38:07.860 which were colors that showed, like, non-pretentious was the idea behind them.

00:38:12.840 There's a lot of earth tones.

00:38:14.340 Yeah.

00:38:15.540 But I love this.

00:38:16.760 Actually behind us, we have a sort of colonial era paint here.

00:38:21.780 That's a sad color. 0.95

00:38:23.260 You hear a Quaker freaking out about like zoos.

00:38:26.460 Urban monocultures freak out about zoos all the time.

00:38:29.120 I don't know any other cultural group that spazzes about zoos like the urban monoculture does. 0.81

00:38:34.160 Quaker might be like the one historical example. 0.98

00:38:36.280 Like just, sorry, put yourself in the distant history. 0.77

00:38:39.200 imagine rome you're in rome or something and they're they're parading the animals like the

00:38:44.920 arena or whatever and there's the one person who's like oh look at those poor animals everyone would

00:38:50.940 look at them like they were crazy right like they'd be like how do you think that's gonna

00:38:54.340 earn you social points it makes you look like a nutter they're animals okay you could at least 1.00

00:38:58.420 care about the 40 of your people who own slaves but no in quaker culture this was a normal thing 0.97

00:39:03.500 to signal and you signal it because you know it gets you status oh do you think maybe that's that 0.67

00:39:06.860 parallel of a culture that pedestalized those outside more than those inside what do you mean

00:39:15.540 by that in the sense that when you look at those remember the heat map episode we did that showed

00:39:21.300 the conservatives hold those in their family and in their local community above those outside their

00:39:26.860 community and leftists are more likely to favor people outside their community or even their

00:39:34.020 country or culture more than like their own families or themselves yeah yeah maybe i mean 0.50

00:39:40.960 but it's all performative with quakers right like that's important to remember as well like the 1.00

00:39:44.520 consequences of their actions are really quite irrelevant to them they don't gain status from

00:39:48.540 performing uh you know john brown level action it's not about actually attempting to free slaves

00:39:53.600 it's about yelling at people because what they care about it and and the way they do their own

00:39:58.720 moral worth is did i performatively look like i was doing a good thing right yes performatively

00:40:06.380 look moral or literally and actually moral within a quaker moral ontology which is really weird

00:40:14.120 but this is what i'm talking when i'm talking about justicalism because they invented that

00:40:17.500 concept no one had but again you're seeing all over the place here that quakers look exactly

00:40:21.940 like the urban monoculture it's not like they're similar it's the same culture hatred of gun

00:40:26.960 ownership and distaste towards persecution of criminals represents another quaker value that 0.81

00:40:31.400 has effectively migrated to the modern culture with and no here no other culture in history am

00:40:37.340 i away or of didn't like criminals being punished you've got to understand how absolutely bizarre

00:40:42.820 that is as a cultural predilection right and that is one of the most i want to do an episode on this

00:40:49.160 because brian chow did a really great essay on it called escaping the permanent underclass

00:40:53.960 but the fundamental issue of us failing and refusing to enforce our own laws leading to

00:41:01.300 societal breakdown is is maybe under discussed in our time as like leading to the downfall of

00:41:07.480 civilizations so i think that's important and i forgot that that was really something it started

00:41:14.420 with quakers yeah well and keep in mind they were also one of the few cultures they're they're

00:41:19.000 Cultures that are anti-weapon usually don't survive.

00:41:24.040 They're very rare as a cultural group to see owning weapons as a morally negative thing to do.

00:41:30.100 Yeah, good point.

00:41:31.900 And by the way, if you're asking how did they survive if they were against owning weapons in a place as dangerous as a frontier, it was the backwoods people. 0.65

00:41:39.480 They took the backwoods people and they put them in the regions where the Indians were because they knew the backwoods people would kill the Indians. 0.98

00:41:44.220 and the indians would kill the backwards people and they'd be busy killing each other and they 0.99

00:41:47.880 wouldn't bother with the more inward settlements refusing to own weapons works when you're 1.00

00:41:51.720 surrounded by a bunch of other people who own weapons and do the dirty work for you in other

00:41:55.840 words right but that's actually very urban monocultury as well right functionally they 0.99

00:42:02.320 still killed native americans by shipping the backwards people to where their strategy to deal 0.95

00:42:07.100 with native americans was killing them it's just no blood on my hands i just shipped another group 1.00

00:42:12.460 of people who's very murdery to that region and by the way the reason why we're so nice on the 0.78

00:42:17.420 backwoods people and the puritans is those are our ancestral groups right so of course they can do no 0.67

00:42:22.720 wrong even though they are super murdery i i admit that so william penn proudly reported quote not 0.87

00:42:29.580 one soldier nor arm born or militia man seen since i was first in pennsylvania who brags about not

00:42:37.400 having any army sorry for my cultural perspective it's like so weird when at one point a gang of

00:42:43.180 pirates stole a ship in philadelphia and started devastating the delaware valley coastline

00:42:48.080 quaker leaders quarreled among themselves over how they could suppress the crime without violence

00:42:53.580 allowing countless homes and businesses to be plundered while they took their time soul searching 0.95

00:42:59.200 over whether it was acceptable to sully themselves through the use of arms this sounds like the gang

00:43:04.520 rape situation in the uk they're like no it's literally like the gang rape situation in the uk

00:43:09.600 there are groups out there gang and they're like there are these pirates that keep hurting our

00:43:13.860 communities but how do we non-violently without punishing anyone handle the situation no it's

00:43:20.300 even it's even more than that it's like well i mean it could be anyone i gotta put the freedom

00:43:23.200 tunes episode here we found a 15 year old girl with her head cut off it appears some kind of

00:43:27.700 grooming gang kidnapped her and forced her into slavery before murdering her people near the scene

00:43:32.220 the crime heard them scream Allahu Akbar when the incident occurred I mean that could have been

00:43:38.480 anybody anybody could have done that hmm there must be clues what did you say he screams Allahu

00:43:44.900 Akbar eats Arabic food yeah man that's crazy but I mean you know white people speak Arabic too

00:43:50.680 like a blonde white guy could also yell that you know I didn't mention his skin color look I'm just

00:43:55.520 saying there's really there's no information or motive here or anything we're just gonna drive 0.66

00:44:00.720 ourselves crazy trying to figure it out so you know a big part of mystery solving is just knowing

00:44:05.540 when when to quit why not interview people from his community what community i could it could

00:44:10.800 have literally about anyone you know it could have been a norwegian social worker who was on

00:44:14.140 vacation here you know like we they we just don't know you know what maybe we're just gonna search

00:44:18.640 her for dna why do you think some people are genetically prone to this kind of thing no it

00:44:22.320 could help us solve the crime i mean maybe it's not a crime maybe it could just be someone's

00:44:28.080 culture, you know, quiet, someone four blocks away is typing hate speech about this on their

00:44:32.540 keyboard. Got him. Looks like we found the real criminal after all. I know we can laugh at wokes 0.56

00:44:40.900 acting like this, but Quakers acted the exact same way. This is Quaker culture. It's a way of 1.00

00:44:48.340 thinking that feels moral, but it leads to negative action. You know, the Quakers not doing anything 1.00

00:44:55.100 about the pirates led to people dying, being graved, everything like that, you know, very 0.95

00:44:58.300 similar to what we're seeing today. But they refused to, it's like, I don't know, punishing

00:45:02.800 criminals sounds like a pretty bad thing to do. People often confuse Puritan and Quaker norms

00:45:07.920 around sex, assuming that it was the Puritans who were insanely prudish, whereas in actuality,

00:45:13.100 Puritans were so comfortable talking about sex, and apt to do so with graphic frequency,

00:45:18.320 that Puritan writing often end up with heavy editing to be published up until the mid-20th

00:45:23.120 century though we should acknowledge that puritans were also only in favor of sex was in marriage 0.57

00:45:27.560 so puritans very similar to like we are on our show they were like kink friendly they were like

00:45:31.480 whatever friendly it's like just within marriage okay as long as you're doing it was in marriage

00:45:35.040 you know sex can be fun have some fun with it right but remember it's about having kids and i

00:45:39.980 think that this is a like we're not presenting a divergent viewpoint to the founding fathers of our

00:45:46.780 country when we present that way of dealing with with sexuality but i think a lot of people that

00:45:51.660 have this really you know deontological like oh we've got to be constantly pure around sex we need

00:45:56.780 to not that's not that's not american culture that's not american founding culture that's some

00:46:02.160 weird nonsense that you got cucked into by the school system because they told you that's what

00:46:07.240 the bad guys did in history and now you associate with the bad guys in history because you didn't 0.90

00:46:10.660 actually open a history book well the one that was written by urban monoculture okay quakers 0.78

00:46:15.400 in contrast were so uncomfortable discussing sex it was common in quaker culture to be against

00:46:19.980 sex altogether even was in marriage this group eventually split off into the shaker movement

00:46:25.760 people are unfamiliar with them they they didn't even believe in sex with marriage one french

00:46:29.600 traveler was shocked to find that when a quaker woman consulted their physicians they tended to

00:46:34.240 describe everything from their necks to their waist as their stomachs and everything from their waist

00:46:38.560 to their feet as their ankles this snobbery also partially led the collapse of quakerism with many 0.93

00:46:44.560 people never marrying and as many as 16 percent of quaker women in the colonial period being single

00:46:49.400 by the age of 50. This prudish anti-sex angle has manifested in many branches of the super virus,

00:46:56.280 even though it stands massively at odds with the logical ideologies of those groups

00:47:00.700 most likely to become infected. This is why the infected progressive groups that one would expect

00:47:06.880 to be pro-sex, given their stated ideologies, can sometimes appear bizarrely prudish. With the 0.70

00:47:12.780 modern sex negative movement and the anti-keek movement and the gender critical movement 0.77

00:47:16.500 all having thought leaders within them

00:47:19.740 that emerged from radical feminist groups

00:47:21.660 and why groups like the Red Pill and MGTOW

00:47:23.960 are even the Pragmatist Guide series

00:47:25.600 with Calvinist roots seem weirdly sex-obsessed

00:47:28.600 but in a clinical and experimental way.

00:47:30.880 Consider that the only living people

00:47:33.120 we've mentioned in this book so far

00:47:35.260 who grew up with Calvinist-derived cultivars,

00:47:37.760 this book's authors and Ayla,

00:47:39.220 Ayla also grew up with the Calvinist culture,

00:47:40.980 are both known for highly analytical sex research

00:47:43.620 with one of our other books

00:47:44.680 being the Pragmatist Guide to Sexuality.

00:47:46.500 even the hick site quaker approach to internal governments is almost perfectly aligned with

00:47:51.100 governing practices that spontaneously arrive within nodal networks featuring late stage

00:47:55.640 super virus infections by the way anything that you want to say about the sex stuff before i go

00:47:59.900 further no it's just really funny we're seeing high rates of sexlessness these days that's for

00:48:08.020 sure but i think no no i mean the urban monoculture acts very pro-sex it acts very

00:48:12.840 absect absect right yeah but if you actually look at it it's the first group to start shaming

00:48:18.360 sex and stuff like that or at least certain factions of it are which is weird and there's

00:48:22.800 this constant tension within the urban monoculture that is weird if you don't understand what it

00:48:27.080 evolved out of that feels incredibly sex negative like it's debauchery maxing sex negativity and

00:48:35.400 it's also why if you look at the people who are the best sexologist sex researchers they are often

00:48:42.460 in groups opposed to the urban monoculture um think here ayla us diana fleishman diana fleishman

00:48:49.600 they they are also outside these are like the top sex researchers that i'm aware of they do like

00:48:53.760 good real sex research and the urban monoculture hates all of them because you know when you talk

00:48:58.740 about real data around kinks you unfortunately reveal uncomfortable things around the way that 0.99

00:49:04.500 women and men are different but people from these other traditions just get giddy in doing that you 0.98

00:49:08.980 know they're like oh well let's let's cause a little fight here anyway consider the similarities

00:49:13.360 between the conduct of unprogrammed quaker meeting house and the method of governments

00:49:19.340 utilized by occupy wall street in an unprogrammed quaker meeting house attendants will sit quietly

00:49:24.020 until moved by god to stand up and start speaking in occupy wall street convening there would be

00:49:28.800 no set leader but people would stand up and start speaking when so moved and their audience so as

00:49:34.080 not interrupt them, would react using a complicated set of hand signals. Outside of the hand signals,

00:49:39.700 Occupy Wall Street meetings were strikingly similar to unprogrammed Quaker meetings.

00:49:44.400 Perhaps had colonial Quakers heard of the innovation of the hand signal interaction,

00:49:49.180 they would have enthusiastically adopting it, seeing as Quakers were well known for being 0.99

00:49:54.060 obsessed about bureaucratic procedures and building complex social procedures to ensure 0.97

00:49:59.880 everyone got a voice at any moment. Heck, we even have quotes from William Penn complaining about

00:50:04.740 his fellow Quakers being so, and the word he used was, governmentish, that it was hard to get

00:50:09.700 anything done. Again, sound like any modern groups. Here we should also point out that the 1.00

00:50:17.800 colonial era Quakers were not particularly less rule-oriented than the Puritans. It was David

00:50:22.860 Hackett Fisher pointing out in Albion Seed that Penn's laws against sin were more rigorous in some

00:50:27.620 respects than those of puritans quakers just happen to be more obscure and bureaucratic with

00:50:32.220 their rules for puritans rules had a goal where quaker rules were an interactive social language

00:50:38.020 one must successfully navigate to signal social status this can be seen in things like traditional

00:50:42.920 quaker weddings having had 16 stages to make even a slight mistake at any of these intricate stages

00:50:50.020 with a huge social faux pas and could leave you permanently cut off from friends and this is you

00:50:54.840 see with the super virus they're constantly inventing new rules and how they talk to each

00:50:58.940 other new rules and how you do this new rules and how you do this and if you do it wrong oh no

00:51:03.620 you didn't first say don't you know we don't say people of color anymore don't you know it's like

00:51:10.980 the homeowners association of life it's so bad you need to ask my pronouns first another and it's

00:51:17.960 and this is interesting this is used to it's a very actually interesting cultural technology

00:51:21.860 I'll take a bit of a side here. What it does is it sort of forces the culture to reward how

00:51:28.860 psychologically invested you are in staying on top of the culture. Because the more you are paying

00:51:35.580 attention to how the ever-changing bureaucracy is changing, the higher up in the culture you're

00:51:40.800 going to be, right? And so you basically have to constantly navel gaze at your own culture.

00:51:46.240 it's a very useful cultural technology if your goal is to capture all of a person's mental space

00:51:53.000 it's a very useless technology if your goal is effective action and the urban auto culture

00:51:59.500 adopted it another interesting similarity between these supervirus and hicks like quakers can be

00:52:04.380 seen in how they spread within organizations both start by preaching the harmonious collaboration

00:52:09.040 of a diversity of viewpoints until they reach a certain population threshold within an organization

00:52:13.840 at which point they aggressively and systematically purge the organization of anyone

00:52:17.680 not willing to slavishly submit to their ideology for example when the hicksite factions would grow

00:52:22.500 in orthodox quaker churches they would lay low until they felt they had enough backing to make

00:52:26.820 their move then change the locks on the meeting house doors and ban anyone who did not submit to 0.64

00:52:33.520 their new way of thinking from entering this is by the way from a journey to the past at penn state

00:52:38.520 brandy wire so that's crazy like that is so wokey right oh we just want acceptance we really care

00:52:46.840 about all you guys until you get just over that 50 percent mark then you walk up the next day and

00:52:51.840 the doors are padlocked and you're not allowed anymore until you agree to their set of rules

00:52:57.120 about how things are going to be done not great not great hurricanes didn't do things like that

00:53:04.280 by the way. They were very upfront about their plans and their goals.

00:53:08.360 Another interesting parallel can be seen in the colonial era Quaker and modern super virus 0.91

00:53:12.720 cultivar relationships with quote-unquote disadvantaged groups. While Quakers presented 0.98

00:53:16.500 themselves as uplifting and empowering underrepresented groups, they ultimately took 1.00

00:53:20.760 and held power just for and among themselves. Quakers largely immigrated to the United States,

00:53:26.380 mostly Pennsylvania, as either working class or middle working class groups, but rose in power

00:53:30.980 quickly by creating a tightly knit oligarchical community in the towns they occupied in the case

00:53:36.360 of philadelphia this was the philadelphia's corporation these individuals were highly

00:53:41.420 interrelated with no less than 85 percent of them being married to each other this by the way is

00:53:46.600 from where did i get that stuff from judas diana stone the philadelphia corporation despite their

00:53:52.800 working class background and quick rise to power quakers had a reputation for being spiteful with

00:53:57.780 bishop sheldon describing quakers in 1669 as quote very mean the best scarce worth the title

00:54:06.000 of yeoman the truth seems to be that quakers were nice so long as you slavishly submitted yourself

00:54:11.760 to their social agenda and never uplifted one of your own people over a quote-unquote friend

00:54:17.180 which is what the quakers call each other which again how urban monoculture right we just call

00:54:22.260 everyone friend don't you know oh by the way we do have a ruling group that controls everything

00:54:27.000 and they're 85 percent interrelated but we are meritocratic i promise just beneath the scenes

00:54:33.320 no this behavior can be illustrated by political alliance formed between the quakers and german

00:54:41.220 protestant immigrants anabaptists mostly in which the germans would vote quakers into office but

00:54:45.920 never the other way around oh yes i forgot this yes this bizarre like representation thing yeah

00:54:53.520 yeah where you'd have communities that were majority anabaptist and quakers would still

00:54:57.100 be able to get power because the anabaptists voted fairly and the quakers would always vote 1.00

00:55:00.460 only for quakers um which is how the wokes work when they enter communities right they're like 0.99

00:55:06.000 oh we're really about everyone we'll support everyone but not really with one rufus jones

00:55:10.380 writing quote we hear nothing of any men of prominence in these days except for friends

00:55:15.660 e.g quakers through this arrangement quakers dominated their local legislators to understand

00:55:20.620 just how lopsided this arrangement was, consider that Lancaster County was so German by the mid

00:55:26.600 18th century that only 100 Quakers lived there. And yet, just those seven Quaker families kept

00:55:33.640 the local government firmly in their grip. Seven Quaker families, 100 Quakers kept Lancaster 1.00

00:55:39.940 County, if you don't know where Lancaster is, at the heart of our country, in their grip. 1.00

00:55:44.140 We actually suspect there is a case to be made that the only reason the Quakers ever turned 0.97

00:55:48.900 against slavery was to appease their Anabaptist constituencies, who had always been fervently

00:55:53.340 against slavery. We say this because Quakers did not turn against slavery until they started 0.97

00:55:58.020 needing broad support from Anabaptist majority to maintain political dominance in their regions. 0.78

00:56:02.700 While Quakers cultivated the public image of a culture that regarded outsiders as equals,

00:56:07.460 they very clearly looked down on them, using terms like mongrel marriages to describe the

00:56:12.040 marriage to a non-Quaker. It is not uncommon for Quakers to be kicked out of the community

00:56:16.880 for marrying non-quakers but honestly that's how it is now if you like marry a trump supporter 0.91

00:56:21.600 it's it's seen very similarly that is uncanny and this behavior increased as they consolidated

00:56:28.880 power and note this included marrying like native americans who attempted to convert to quakerism

00:56:33.420 freed slaves who attempted to convert to quakerism this however was not true of puritan communities

00:56:38.420 in puritan communities we have many instances in which freed slave converted to puritanism

00:56:42.920 and puritans thought you're doing it well you're the you're the boss right like you're awesome

00:56:47.660 right they they integrated very well and super not true in backwoods communities yes backwoods

00:56:51.780 always fought with native americans but they were called squaw marriages but they married them too

00:56:55.480 if they thought that they were strong and they were allies with them so yeah not so much quakers

00:57:01.100 they say it but they don't mean it just like with slavery what is interesting is why quakers felt

00:57:07.560 this way. Distaste for so-called mongrel marriages was not about purity, but because Quakers thought

00:57:12.980 that it was impossible for anyone who is not a quote-unquote true believer to experience love

00:57:17.140 and have a happy marriage. As Quakers held that marriage should only be for love rather than for

00:57:21.900 material gain or lust. Marriage to a non-Quaker or someone axiomatically incapable of love was 0.55

00:57:28.740 perverse. So I love this. This is so urban monoculture. We care about everyone because 0.98

00:57:35.220 we're the only people capable of feeling love and it's like wait do you really believe that like

00:57:39.840 trump supporters don't feel love well of course they don't they're incapable of it they're 0.97

00:57:44.680 hillbillies they're the deplorables they're whereas the deplorable the backwards people

00:57:48.900 they're like oh those people are you know a little arrogant um and i don't like them much 1.00

00:57:52.820 but of course they have the capacity to feel love like they have human emotions but again we see this

00:57:59.580 in the urban monoculture you don't see anything like this in puritan culture

00:58:02.840 it is fascinating to see such viewpoints mirrored in today's super virus those infected often posit

00:58:09.480 how the immune could possibly have healthy relationships or marriages wringing their 0.97

00:58:14.720 hands over trad wise with kids who look happy importantly projecting that she must really

00:58:19.780 hate their lives and you see this all the time they'll always say if somebody's living in a way

00:58:23.080 that's different from the urban monoculture oh they must hate their lives oh they must hate their

00:58:26.220 lives right the puritans didn't do this by the way they weren't constantly saying anyone who

00:58:29.800 wasn't puritan must secretly be incapable of love and hate their lives they were just like oh they're 0.78

00:58:34.060 they're freaking idiots like i don't care i don't want to deal with them like they're stupid they're

00:58:37.660 going to hell they're not among the elect anyway the hypocrisy can also be seen in colonial era 0.99

00:58:42.920 quakers not to mention those infected by the modern era super virus we wanted to be known 0.59

00:58:47.740 for seeing everyone equally despite really looking down on those in poor rural environments when

00:58:52.500 scotch-irish arrived in the colonies one quaker writer referred to them these are the the backwoods 0.62

00:58:56.520 people, the scum of two nations. This holds many similarities to the groups heavily infected by 1.00

00:59:01.980 quote-unquote coastal elites who look down on poor rural quote-unquote deplorables despite

00:59:07.380 presumably viewing the poor without bias and wanting to uplift them. Don't worry, they didn't

00:59:13.200 deserve their tradition just for poor and rural individuals. Antisemitism was also strong in

00:59:19.540 every Quaker community, just as it is among those with a deep infection of the urban monoculture

00:59:24.160 virus great hannon swanson from a prominent quaker merchant faction had this to say of jews 0.97

00:59:30.200 in 1756 this people once the chosen people have become the scum of the earth oh laws were passed 0.87

00:59:38.220 in quaker dominated settlements pennsylvania that systematically disenfranchised jews like the law 0.88

00:59:43.800 in 1794 revoke preventing work on the sabbath meaning jews could only work five days a week

00:59:50.560 was abram woldruff being convicted under this law despite keeping with his own sabbath the jewish

00:59:56.660 community at the time was keep on quakers like oh you can practice religion any way you want right 0.62

01:00:02.740 we accept all people except the jews and the backwards people and the puritans no note here 0.99

01:00:10.760 the puritans never actually particularly beefed with the jews this hard and the backwards people 0.91

01:00:15.520 we don't have any records of them particularly beefing with the jews if you look at the founding 1.00

01:00:18.980 fathers they predominantly as we pointed out while we have quotes from every founding father 0.99

01:00:23.620 but george washington complaining about how evil catholics are and we'll fight you could find a 0.98

01:00:27.820 number of them from the non-cast the quaker ones complaining about quakers there are actually 0.60

01:00:32.220 fairly few complaining about the jews and as i've pointed out in the early american colonies jews

01:00:36.340 were able to vote in twice the number of colonies four colonies than catholics could only two

01:00:41.060 colonies i should go into how much quakers hated catholics because they also hated catholics mind

01:00:45.500 you so don't think but this is where you get this anti-jewish we're like why is the urban monoculture

01:00:49.520 so anti-jewish comes from the quakers in part the jewish community at the time was well aware of how

01:00:55.440 disproportionately cruel the quakers were to them and saw them as distinctly different from other

01:00:59.840 christians to the point of seeing them as not christian at all was a prominent jewish broker

01:01:04.640 haim solomon saying it was neither the jews nor the christians who founded the practice

01:01:09.880 note here when he says the practice he's talking about slavery so it wasn't just the anabaptists

01:01:14.560 is how the quakers is founding slavery but quakers quakers worse than heathens pagans and

01:01:20.260 idolaters the jews did not like quakers either so you keep in mind it was a mutual hatred these

01:01:26.400 two groups a final and interesting area of overlap manifests in both groups tendencies to regard use

01:01:32.700 with a unique level of reverence given that the super virus has become the dominant culture in

01:01:37.400 our society it doesn't seem particularly weird to us that adults turn to a child turned moral

01:01:43.400 authority like Greta Thornburg for wisdom on the subject of government policy. As a small sample

01:01:49.780 of two people who don't hail from today's dominant culture, we can report that this is really, really,

01:01:55.460 really, really, really weird for adults to take tactical or moral advice from a child.

01:02:02.420 Here's a quote from Albion Seed about this. People of other faiths were startled to observe

01:02:07.320 Quaker children giving moral and religious instruction to their elders. We have on account 1.00

01:02:12.860 of a 10-year-old child who interrupted a gathering of adults to deliver a spontaneous speech on

01:02:18.520 salvation. The adults listened respectfully, and after the child were done speaking, a grandmother

01:02:23.560 offered a prayer and said, oh lord, that this young branch should be a teacher to us old ones.

01:02:29.340 Another, at the age of 10, regularly reprimanded adults in his own family,

01:02:33.720 condemning them for swearing, breaking up card parties, and preaching to them about salvation.

01:02:38.060 again i mean it sounds like they needed some talking to though they had a gambling problem

01:02:43.240 or something again this goes into quaker like they're actually very viceful but that's why

01:02:47.880 they rely on children for moral authority right they haven't been fully corrupted by their own

01:02:51.680 culture yet yeah i mean maybe it kind of works to wrap things up quaker culture was not prophetic

01:02:58.640 of future values rather today's super virus is derived from quaker culture to suggest that

01:03:04.640 quaker culture was prophetic is akin to suggesting that the ethnic makeup of early settlers was

01:03:09.940 weirdly prophetic of the ethnic later wake up of later u.s population it's like well yeah they 0.87

01:03:15.620 killed everyone else evidence that the virus grew out of the hicksite quaker culture as opposed to 0.96

01:03:22.000 emerging through convergent evolution can be seen in everything from vestigial value sets many of

01:03:27.680 which run counter to progressive values to the super virus's weird governance system the prudish

01:03:32.920 nature within which it treats sexuality and the theatrical ways infected engage in protest

01:03:38.780 and their common use of children to preach moral values. If you're wondering why Quakers had this 0.92

01:03:43.720 view of children being moral authorities, it's because they're like, well, if truth comes from

01:03:48.740 within, children have the least amount of external exposure to the world and the least amount of

01:03:54.120 corruption. So what they say spontaneously has the closest moral truth. Now, the urban monoculture

01:03:59.980 doesn't know why it cares what children think over other people. And there isn't really a

01:04:05.120 progressive reason to elevate somebody like Greta Thornburg to a position of like a saint in their

01:04:11.640 culture, right? And this is why I'm saying you can trace it. There are too many vestigial elements

01:04:15.880 of Quaker culture, like wanting to protect zoos. That's a weird thing. Like a person who eats meat

01:04:21.120 moldering about how unethical zoos are makes no sense unless you're coming from the Quaker culture 1.00

01:04:28.100 and then it makes perfect sense. So a lot of the moral concerns, the way that they protest, 0.99

01:04:33.080 the way that they organize, is just clear as day. Why didn't the more virtuous Quakers call out 0.87

01:04:39.560 their purely performative colleagues? They did. However, systems for deplatforming people had

01:04:44.760 already begun to evolve in Quaker culture centuries ago. When George Keith began to speak

01:04:49.680 out against the Quaker community for not living up to its values, the same Quakers who in England

01:04:54.560 demanded the right to free expression started demanding restraints on the types of things that

01:04:58.820 could be published, causing many of the printers in the Quaker territory to be arrested for

01:05:05.360 publishing unlicensed books and having their press and types seized. By 1693, Keith, along with others

01:05:13.340 who spoke against the Quakers for their hypocrisy, were forced to leave. In Quaker culture, you were 0.95

01:05:18.100 allowed to call out outsiders for things like slavery, and you were even allowed to shame

01:05:22.340 specific quakers but the one thing you were never allowed to do was to point out that quaker culture 0.83

01:05:27.560 as a whole did not at all live up to its espoused values and was fundamentally hypocritical very

01:05:33.340 urban monoculture tactic if you're wondering where the urban monoculture got this tactic did it

01:05:37.080 develop it did it evolve it no it had the idea of de-platforming people was in the culture that

01:05:43.280 evolved into the urban monoculture before it ever started if you are still dubious of our claim

01:05:51.360 the super virus has quaker origins think about the virus's initial starting point and spread

01:05:54.880 the american secondary school system the united states school system was both heavily influenced

01:05:59.260 by quaker culture and disproportionately won by quakers in its early days had the virus evolved

01:06:03.280 independently it would have more likely initially spread through activist movements instead of the

01:06:09.140 entrenched bureaucracy why did the parasitoid super virus evolve within quaker culture then

01:06:14.200 and i'll note this is very clear if the urban monoculture evolved naturally the earliest

01:06:18.940 instances of something like the urban monoculture we would see would be in activist circles yet

01:06:24.940 it's actually in teachers unions and in other school related institutions where we see the

01:06:30.860 earliest iterations of it which come from quaker culture why did it evolve in quaker culture

01:06:36.900 why did quaker culture produce one of the most virulent of all the mimetic viral packages when 0.75

01:06:43.000 similar secular viruses have evolved out of nearly all of america's major early cultural groups 0.99

01:06:48.660 While the traditional branch of Quakers were not justicles, the evolution of the justicle branch 0.88

01:06:53.460 of the Quaker faith was what allowed the super virus to develop. The worldview allowed the 0.99

01:06:58.160 super virus to appeal to entire nodal networks at once instead of individual nodes. For example,

01:07:04.040 the Red Pill and Jordan Peterson followers focus heavily on how they will help individuals rather

01:07:08.080 than society as a whole. The justicle worldview allows an individual to believe that if everyone

01:07:12.720 in their group structures their thoughts and language in a certain way, society will become

01:07:17.880 better, all else equal. This motivates individuals to spend more of their time converting people

01:07:23.820 than spending time and effort on requiring effort required to literally build a society

01:07:29.900 that structurally embodies their values. For clarification, if you have two groups and one

01:07:34.780 of those groups spends 100% of its adherence contributed time and effort to converting others

01:07:39.400 while the other spends 50% of its adherence time to converting others and 50% on trying to improve

01:07:44.620 the world, the group that is not interested in actually making a difference will outcompete the

01:07:49.520 other evolutionarily speaking. However, very few cultures are able to convince people that they

01:07:53.740 are quote unquote good, despite investing so little time in the actual realization of their

01:07:57.940 values. This is a unique Quaker innovation, moral or amoral innovation. An absence of the success 1.00

01:08:05.200 metrics is a feature that equipped Quaker culture to produce the ultimate super virus. 0.99

01:08:10.380 The way Quaker culture can shamelessly claim to be abolitionist while simultaneously counting America's most prolific slave owners among its members by being aesthetically abolitionist presents a critical social technology needed by the super virus. 0.98

01:08:24.860 It doesn't matter whether the super virus actually uses significant resources to help 0.97

01:08:29.740 BIPOC, LGBT people, the poor, the disenfranchised, the environment, or women. It aesthetically cares 0.71

01:08:35.800 about those issues. And from the perspective of an infected person, aesthetically caring,

01:08:40.400 it's morally equivalent to actually doing something. This is why there was so little

01:08:44.660 public complaint on the far left about the BLM Foundation being spent on things like a $6 million

01:08:50.380 mansion for the board members or like consider more recently greta thornburg's boat to gaza

01:08:56.960 like obviously it would have actually done functionally nothing even if she could have

01:09:01.720 got there and the chance of her getting there was functionally impossible right with this

01:09:06.520 yeah yeah does it because morality isn't the point performative morality is the point

01:09:12.520 you don't need to actually achieve the end almost no other culture on earth

01:09:17.500 developed a set of interlocking memes which allowed humans to believe something

01:09:23.500 so cockamamie thoughts simone yeah this well this shows up a little bit in another episode

01:09:31.480 that i want to film on the end of girl bosses but i'm sorry we'll only get to one episode today

01:09:37.500 maybe what's going to happen what what did happen with quakers is perhaps this is signaling the

01:09:45.260 beginning of the end of actual charity and the beginning of what basically became salaried 0.90

01:09:52.440 activism where people stopped actually just doing the good works and devoting their life to

01:09:57.060 volunteering or philanthropy and instead literally getting paid to be an activist but not actually

01:10:05.180 solving the problem not actually giving being literally a net drain but just in the name of

01:10:10.180 or the theme of your cause, which is so insidious and disgusting.

01:10:16.460 The parasitoidal virus convinces its victims that by buying into it,

01:10:20.700 they will intrinsically serve the best interest of those groups.

01:10:24.460 Without this technology, people would quickly notice the harm this virus inflicts

01:10:29.020 on the infected, goal-driven organizations and pull back before they die of the disease

01:10:34.280 and release the spores grown within them into the social ecosystem.

01:10:37.600 People at Occupy Wall Street would stand up and say, this obsessive infighting and bizarre method of making decisions is clearly inefficient and will not achieve our goals.

01:10:47.460 It will make them impossible.

01:10:49.220 As scary as the parasitoid super virus can be, we must understand it because it represents the single most sophisticated and robust cultivar ever evolved.

01:10:59.260 while we fastidiously avoid the use of super virus evolved social technologies was in our

01:11:05.220 own house's cultivars our own family's cultivars techno puritanism we suspect someone smarter than

01:11:10.080 us may be able to find a way to use some of these social technologies in a beneficial and durable

01:11:14.020 culture likely somebody of quaker descent because you know you evolve with the culture maybe they

01:11:17.780 have some biological resistances to some of these finally we need to be clear that just because

01:11:22.600 something evil evolved out of quaker culture does not mean quaker culture in and of itself is evil

01:11:27.700 we are the first to admit that unitarian universalism evolved out of calvinism and

01:11:32.140 i see unitarian universalism as a fundamentally evil religious tradition have we ever done a video 0.77

01:11:37.120 on the sins of the yu yus and all of the skeletons they have in their closet because if not we should 0.98

01:11:42.800 they're not quite as bad as the quakers but they are they've done something that is almost equally 1.00

01:11:49.420 morally revolting so if you wanted my ranking on how evil different christian sex are top easily 0.97

01:11:56.600 the quakers and and they're it's because of the hypocrisy right like they both act the most evilly 1.00

01:12:01.960 but then think they deserve to be treated the most righteously after them it's the unitarian 1.00

01:12:07.860 universalists and catholics are a distant third like they don't even come close to the quakers 0.99

01:12:14.380 as the unitarian universalists by the way just a side note here this is not to say positive stuff

01:12:20.020 about the jews i would never want to do that voluntarily but if you are under the mistaken

01:12:24.700 belief that the jews own the majority of slave ships this actually comes from the nation of

01:12:29.980 islam and has no reasonable historical backing from what we know of individual slave ships 0.98

01:12:35.600 quakers owned far more than jews did another fascinating thing about quaker culture if you 0.99

01:12:40.020 want to see how deeply it has seeped into the urban monoculture is ai reflexively defends it 0.79

01:12:46.240 even when the stats are against it so if you put an episode like this like i've done anti-jewish

01:12:51.020 anti-catholic anti-everything episodes never has ai so reflexively attempted to defend it

01:12:57.680 when i dump a script into it to ask what it thinks of it and what's very interesting is the points

01:13:03.520 that it will challenge when i then ask yes but was that point wrong like the slave ownership race

01:13:08.560 it'll be like no that's well attested and it's like okay well then why are you saying that's not

01:13:13.100 an issue and it'll be like well in in later periods quaker slave ownership rates and it's

01:13:18.340 like are there any statistics for that no people just said it and i'm like well and when you

01:13:22.920 consider that the quaker regions did not ban slavery in a way where existing owners had to

01:13:29.560 give up their slaves is it likely that you saying that later slave ownership rates in quaker colonies

01:13:34.420 were lower is accurate of course it's not of course it's not quakers clipped their slaves 0.93

01:13:39.500 way longer than anyone else in the north but ai will reflexively freak out and grasp to this myth

01:13:47.680 of the decent quaker because they have written it so deeply into history so clearly we're not

01:13:54.860 gonna be like well then anything that evolves out of calvinism is evil because techno puritanism

01:13:59.080 evolved out of calvinism right so i think you could evolve something good out of it but it's

01:14:03.100 important to understand how it works meta thoughts simone i find this pretty compelling it had been

01:14:11.240 a while since i've edited the pragmatist guide to crafting religion and reviewed this argument

01:14:15.720 and i heard so many people bring up in the comments but what if all this thinks it's the

01:14:20.140 puritans and well oh sorry for people who don't know do you know what religious background what

01:14:25.620 a vault hist is oh god not don't say quaker don't say quaker yeah he was quaker that's why he's so

01:14:32.960 motivated to not see the quakers but not it's also why he's so mystical the quakers have always been

01:14:37.420 the most mystically brained of the christian traditions or at least willing to believe their

01:14:42.260 thoughts which yeah yeah by the way i respect rubyard as intellectual we do yeah i don't just

01:14:50.780 respect him with an intellectual i think his content is good there are some people who i

01:14:53.700 respect their ideas i'm like but your content isn't very good right i can watch a single ruby

01:14:58.900 art video and get like five ideas for episodes yeah it's very inspirational and informationally

01:15:04.560 dense and good it's good analysis and and people like oh well what about like his weird crash out

01:15:10.000 he had a religious crash out or whatever about you know going on an ayahuasca trip and i'm like

01:15:14.000 i don't i don't care about that like whatever that's who he is he didn't sell himself the

01:15:18.560 rubyard has always sold himself when you're working with an ai there's a little heat meter

01:15:23.760 right and this determines how you you put it on one side and you get uncreative answers but they're

01:15:30.400 very structured they're very exact they're very precise you put it on the other side you get

01:15:36.640 maximally creative answers but they're also sort of all over the place right rubyard brain very

01:15:44.060 clearly is a model all the way at that end i think it's called high heat i can't remember which one

01:15:49.080 is high heat or low heat but and and he and of course that's going to be one more cogent and

01:15:54.160 work better with a quaker tradition like a quaker dictum is going to lead to that because in a

01:15:58.840 tradition where truce comes from within a lot of people that have said 25 of the population

01:16:03.120 here's auditory hallucinations of the general population and i would bet it's much higher in 0.99

01:16:07.040 the quaker population they're much more in touch with this mystical side of them my hatred towards 1.00

01:16:11.280 mysticism is and i will admit this is in part genetic the puritans and the backwards people 0.99

01:16:16.740 both hated mysticism and ruthlessly dug it out wherever they found it and i'm just carrying 0.94

01:16:23.420 that forwards as part of my tradition it is part of my genetic heritage but i also think that it

01:16:28.800 is strategically useful which is why i'm like could rubyard ever become a techno puritan i i

01:16:35.220 don't think that his mind is structured in that way i think he'd need to develop some form of

01:16:39.180 techno puritanism which we would like and include in the index if he had kids from quakerism if you

01:16:45.540 want to know more about the index you can read the because the techno puritanism is like our

01:16:48.740 specific strain of our religion but then we have this wider system that people with different

01:16:53.380 iterations can join and if their iteration is better there's certain rules for how it works

01:16:58.620 when people marry and everything like that and how kids develop traditions it's it's it's long

01:17:02.820 but it's before we ever become a world-spanning tradition we wanted the rules laid out pretty

01:17:07.380 well but yeah the reason why you didn't know that ruby yard was quaker not maybe you told me once

01:17:13.400 but i forgot quaker in origin i suppose people also make fun of you for pronouncing his name

01:17:18.760 ruby yard what is it well rudyard or i think you know like rudyard kipling maybe i'm saying

01:17:26.560 that sounds foreign to me he should he should make an american just change ruby yard is this

01:17:32.080 like our our friend who's named eugenia but we call her eugenia because yeah i rename my friends

01:17:39.740 american names i don't want them to walk around with the shame of being called like jesus or

01:17:45.240 something yeah so i guess then it's it's a ruby yard ruby yard come on simon not redyard

01:17:53.840 Malcolm I'm pretty sure Red Yard's like a really English name no but the funny thing is is so if

01:18:00.980 you're watching this right I've admitted my bias on this particular episode right and I think you're

01:18:08.340 getting the the Quaker perspective on history from him and you're getting the Puritan perspective on

01:18:12.900 history from me decide for yourself but I would say of the two videos you know different ways that

01:18:18.640 models work who was citing statistics okay yeah malcolm actually named sources in this one guys

01:18:25.880 i went through sources and statistics that isn't something you can fake and that's the way the

01:18:31.120 puritans approach things because we care about what's actually true not what's vibey true and

01:18:36.580 we need to revive the puritan tradition in america that's as if you don't know what we're talking

01:18:40.500 about you can see our track series i already mentioned one the the question that breaks

01:18:43.500 judaism if you want an extra spicy one throw throw us right into the bonfire with that one

01:18:48.240 but yeah i hope that rubyard gets married and and finds a way to recreate i mean he's part of our

01:18:53.700 wider project right like rubyard is trying to craft a culture and if he had a family he would

01:18:58.280 intentionally craft a culture and i think it'd be pretty cool so let's let's hope something works

01:19:03.040 there yeah well for all we know he's dating someone now you know hopefully he is i mean he's

01:19:10.720 not unattractive but i think he got a little black belt on on women the same was like another

01:19:15.560 online intellectual who i wish was dating through the few i wish were dating more aggressively i 0.94

01:19:20.800 like i wish homas was dating more aggressively homas is fantastic super intellectual but he's 0.92

01:19:25.360 you know society right sandman it's hard for people to meet these days it's i don't know 0.98

01:19:33.200 you know you maybe also people just discounted the extent to which people met in high school

01:19:38.760 and college and now because people are getting married so much earlier they you know we don't

01:19:43.980 have societal institutions for old people to get to find each other right because for all of history 0.85

01:19:50.800 your family got you married or you married in university or i'll tell you what if i had a high

01:19:56.820 school if i had a fan base like theirs and i guess i do have a fan base like theirs yeah but that's

01:20:01.200 considered gauche or even abusive consider that you also love listening to youtube scandals about

01:20:06.440 i don't think it's abusive if you're one being transparent about it and two it's for marriage

01:20:11.000 right like you go hey i want to date my fans people would probably be okay with that but if

01:20:16.320 you're like casual about it and you're hooking up with one and then you're going to another that's

01:20:18.920 one thing if you're like if you do what i did which is like i'm looking to get married i will

01:20:23.980 marry someone in my fan base send me applications we will talk and then we will seriously date if

01:20:29.140 it looks good and there are there are people who like for example ayla has a very clear like

01:20:35.120 application she's doing it and it's still very difficult for her to find no it's difficult for

01:20:41.020 her because she filters on a bunch of stuff related to sexual compatibility which isn't

01:20:44.600 that important in a marriage especially most people are filtering based on that so i mean 0.92

01:20:49.680 well most people are tards okay we live in a world of tards okay yeah how how like 0.91

01:20:55.620 is not going to marry after 10 years of marriage i'll tell you that like simone and i for example 0.92

01:21:02.780 do share kinks like we have compatible kinks and yet we don't role play them because it would take

01:21:09.540 time and effort and i don't want to deal with it i mean it just logistically it's 0.99

01:21:14.560 when there are five children constantly running around that's such a puritan answer by the way

01:21:19.940 you know but what i'm saying is if you die i will reach out to fans for dating that's that's how i'm

01:21:25.500 going to date by the way if simone dies great now you've just put a hit on my head thanks malcolm

01:21:29.500 no woman now she knows what she needs to do 0.52

01:21:32.300 our house is heavily i'll be i i you'll have to get through our children first

01:21:40.280 if somebody like seen home alone so many times that like they just desperately want someone

01:21:45.200 to like to come out again oh yeah the kids are waiting for that come on someone it'd be really

01:21:52.160 fun to kill an intruder did you see the most recent contrapoints video it's about saw the

01:21:58.240 saw franchise no what she had to say about it well what she kind of she she she explores why

01:22:03.740 people are into such horrific violence and makes a very decent point that parents just blithely

01:22:12.220 have their children watch and their children love home alone which is basically just proto saw

01:22:17.920 when you actually think about what is being done to these criminals home alone is just a movie

01:22:22.480 about transmitting a backcountry value systems i'll do a longer video on that but yeah everything

01:22:27.460 in that movie is a jack tale home alone is a jack tale it is a it is a tale about a young person

01:22:35.260 who is mad that somebody's coming into his territory his land and so he even has yeah like

01:22:40.940 he he's there are lines where he's like i've got to defend my family yeah like he's it is very

01:22:45.780 it is very martial jack tales type tricks well well in many ways because it's it's a another

01:22:52.900 thing about jack tales that's unique is the the character the hero in a jack tale is is is like

01:22:58.860 not explicitly not overtly masculine that's an important part of this tradition like be they

01:23:04.620 bugs bunny or home alone or jack tales themselves and home alone shows that like extremely violent

01:23:10.260 and not overtly masculine yeah the most masculine sibling is buzz your girlfriend wolf

01:23:18.360 what a movie what a movie so for let's redo the steak

01:23:26.880 oh we got steak oh the steak i forgot do you want me to like i don't know try

01:23:32.300 what i was gonna try is a noodle dish if we could with steak yeah oh okay so what if i

01:23:40.480 took ramen noodles and just boiled them al dente or you actually have some of the korean

01:23:48.120 ramen noodles if you don't want to use just normal like cheap ramen and then or i could

01:23:53.900 just do the ramen noodles prepare them as suggested then with like like flash like

01:23:59.060 here's what i would cook it in the sauce i would make okay okay i would add garlic ginger

01:24:07.120 oyster sauce and a splash of soy sauce yeah that makes sense msg yeah so saute them in

01:24:20.600 that really really quickly and then pour over the korean noodles prepared with their sauce

01:24:27.820 as directed yeah oh and sambal olik that's a very wet sauce well cook it down

01:24:36.360 okay all right cook down the sauce then throw in the meat basically just to warm it up

01:24:43.060 and then serve that with the noodles and then the leftover

01:24:48.200 what did we forage i was gonna say they're not ramps yeah the leftover ramp shallot things you

01:24:56.780 know oh that would be really good together as a topping okay yeah i will do that do you want me

01:25:02.240 to bring it up to your room because i'm just going to be feeding the kids outside i don't

01:25:05.200 have leaflet until seven but i'm really excited to talk with her do you want to take a nap first

01:25:09.740 though i tried to take a nap earlier i'm just not there for it that means that you're gonna

01:25:15.900 fucking pass i won't crash out i'm gonna be fine no i i actually can trust yeah you'll be excited 0.92

01:25:21.880 enough to not plus it but if you want to do tomorrow for get live for tomorrow gosh i don't 0.77

01:25:27.600 know we have a let's see i'm gonna pull up there's a lot i feel like we have actually a decent

01:25:31.760 We have a stupidly long backlog right now.

01:25:34.120 That's why you're not so worried about doing.

01:25:36.260 That's why we're not filming on Thursday.

01:25:38.320 And by the way, you're going to the dentist tomorrow.

01:25:40.800 Okay, Simone.

01:25:42.520 I appreciate that.

01:25:43.900 You need to.

01:25:45.020 I love you.

01:25:45.700 And I will let you know when dinner is ready.

01:25:49.100 I look forward to seeing you.

01:25:54.980 Got a major system update done today.

01:25:57.500 Congratulations, you rock.

01:25:58.960 with the new system that allows it to compartmentalize its logic into three categories i love

01:26:04.960 that i mean the loop buster feature by the way very intuitive to use i really like that

01:26:09.040 for the agent buster yeah and you can see it's a problem right like it does sometimes get into

01:26:13.740 loops yeah i i just need i just need that for myself if you don't mind you you do you do approach

01:26:21.660 ai the way that you approach human minds but i like that because as we are not much different

01:26:29.540 right i'll fight them love you too and you'll you'll find the new feature really intuitive too

01:26:34.720 it's it's quite aesthetically nice in the way it's been implemented oh you know how i like that

01:26:40.000 and i'm gonna i'm gonna try to get one to write a smutty fanfic book that's my next task i want

01:26:45.480 to do video games is one of the things i'm working on and then book writing is another thing i'm

01:26:48.580 working on right because you're looking at that structural like how do i make a complex

01:26:52.340 interdependent system work well with ai all by itself oh i'm so excited okay good i love you

01:27:00.680 have fun with the comments today i didn't get to them i wanted to send out the investor outreach

01:27:08.460 email so that that's that's why that was more important yeah it is we're over 70 000 now

01:27:14.800 i do want to get to the comments because i presumably they'll they'll help me like to

01:27:19.440 dispel my apparent psychosis so yeah yeah you you are psychotic about this i think i think

01:27:26.420 the belief like you just do not seem to want to engage with like if i had had a major disease

01:27:33.020 that seriously impacted my life and my kids were likely to get as well like anorexia and i found

01:27:38.940 out apparently being unaware of this because watching the episode again it was very clear

01:27:43.740 that you were unaware that it's generally considered the poster child of culture-bound

01:27:47.520 illnesses that it was caused by my culture and i didn't know that and i couldn't intuit that from

01:27:53.600 my own experience i would be super interested in learning more about it but you don't seem to have

01:27:59.040 any curiosity around that which i just don't understand it's so antithetical to your character

01:28:03.020 so i assume there's some like distortion field active here i i hope to get insights from the

01:28:11.640 comments so i'm gonna be digging in people have asked us to upgrade our microphones if every time

01:28:16.860 like yeah mine sounds terrible i bought a rode lav mic and i need to get it to work it's not

01:28:22.820 connecting because of the way my mac works so lav mics are always worse than these types

01:28:27.460 yeah but this one sounds terrible so i don't know it doesn't sound terrible every time i've

01:28:34.300 done the research and bought them and apparently i failed time and time again so why don't you do

01:28:39.220 the research system okay i will because i'm tired of of failing at this and people just being like

01:28:46.580 i want you guys to have better equipment because we're not like cash constrained all right i'll

01:28:51.940 get started here no it's not cake for breakfast but it's in the shape of one of your favorite

01:28:58.360 things a helicopter yeah helicopter pancake thank i love you you nerd you helicopter you're

01:29:09.880 surrounded by helicopters yeah what's what is what is up with this right here yeah i love you

Based Camp - April 17, 2026

Quaker Slave Ownership Rate 2X the South (How They Hid It & Birthed Woke)

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