Based Camp - Reese Witherspoon Said Women Need to Learn to Use AI (Women Where NOT Happy)

00:00:00.000 hello malcolm i'm excited to be speaking with you today because women freaked out after reese

00:00:05.020 witherspoon said that women should learn how to use ai oh my god now what i love the learn to code

00:00:12.220 thing so for people who forgot learn to code so journalists used to always like tell coal miners

00:00:19.480 and stuff in west virginia it was a very smug act learn to code whenever like a coal mine would get

00:00:25.540 shut down or whatever right because of course they're arrogant they see these people as subhuman

00:00:30.680 they are just like get a real job basically right like yeah yeah like a high anyway when all the

00:00:36.460 journalists started being laid off the new right gamer gate post gamer gate online right came out

00:00:42.260 and started yelling at them to learn to code or not yelling at them but tweeting at them

00:00:45.800 and they got super triggered to the extent that these accounts could get banned for telling a

00:00:51.840 journalists to learn to code after they had lost their job 100 and once again the primary people

00:00:57.460 who had a bit of an aneurysm in in the face of reese witherspoon politely recommending that this

00:01:03.400 is kind of an important and big deal what like it's hard we're writers of course because they

00:01:09.520 hate it and apparently though this isn't even reese witherspoon's first time like trying to

00:01:14.860 evangelize the use of ai which i think is really interesting so just seven months ago again this 0.62

00:01:20.720 is super not new she made headlines for saying that ai needs more girl bosses you have a resume

00:01:25.360 it's pink oh and it's sent it i think it gives it a little something extra don't you think

00:01:30.080 there's this article in the cut titled reese witherspoon thinks ai needs more girl bosses

00:01:34.880 where they bristle about her statement that she made in a different interview to glamour 0.99

00:01:39.620 the women's fashion magazine they they write one thing about reese witherspoon she's going to get 1.00

00:01:45.280 women into male-dominated spaces and if those spaces are an environmentally disastrous creative 1.00

00:01:51.120 wasteland designed to eliminate the human touch from art well they could use a feminine touch 1.00

00:01:57.120 you know you're really being a butthead a butthead the actress recently told glamour that quote it's

00:02:04.020 so important that women are involved in ai lest they be left behind by the filmmaking industry

00:02:09.480 i love that she's trying to warn people in the filmmaking industry like guys it's coming it's

00:02:17.280 coming whether or not you want it to to come it is coming though and the extent to which some

00:02:23.600 people aren't engaging with it like i'm actually astonished of what we've been able to put together

00:02:27.280 with our fab.ai we now our agent system is mostly working it made a video game for me today i wanted

00:02:33.700 a roguelite snake game and it made a road light snake game next time using it to make clips from

00:02:40.060 videos yeah and also now you can on rfab from tons of different providers of images and videos

00:02:47.760 create videos so i'm trying to create a better place for creating videos if you're putting

00:02:51.240 together something like a sky browse type video because i want to be the best place to put those

00:02:56.020 together too online so what the system does is it allows you to choose any starting image creation

00:03:02.100 AI you want from like a huge list of providers to create the initial image or you can upload an image

00:03:07.380 then from there using any of the image to video like if you want to do c dance 2 great you do c

00:03:12.660 dance 2 providers to create a video from that image and then you can cut that video wherever

00:03:18.980 you want and you hit make video again and then with any provider you want you can use the same

00:03:23.780 one or another one or whatever it takes the last image frame of the video that was created earlier

00:03:32.100 from where you cut it or just the last frame in general and then it creates another video

00:03:36.980 with that being the starting image and then you can re-roll if you want and then it automatically

00:03:41.780 stitches them together and you can just keep doing this to very naturally create

00:03:46.900 ai videos as long as you want because we're using the reason why we're able to use so many different

00:03:52.740 models is because we use multiple back-end platforms and i guess everyone else is lazy

00:03:57.860 and just uses one but i get like api keys for all of them but anyway continue she also said in the

00:04:03.380 interview i'm a very hard worker and i like to change and adapt to new structures and new

00:04:07.860 environments i'm always looking for how media is evolving and how i can help part of bringing women

00:04:14.340 along into those emerging industries witherspoon said and now we're doing it with ai for an example

00:04:20.340 of what our sides women are doing with ai it's here's a clip from a song that leaflet put out

00:04:25.060 Yesterday

00:04:55.060 It's so, so important that women are involved in AI

00:05:03.020 because it will be the future of filmmaking. 0.73

00:05:05.300 And you can be sad and lament it all you want,

00:05:07.980 but the change is here.

00:05:09.440 And she's totally right.

00:05:10.600 And even we have family members

00:05:12.300 who are actively working on integrating AI into filmmaking.

00:05:16.320 There was this movie called, I think called Here with Tom Hanks

00:05:19.120 that had a lot of, they had to artificially age up and down the actors

00:05:22.920 because it covered sort of the history of what happened in one geographical location.

00:05:28.860 And that involved, you know, actors being very significantly manipulated with AI.

00:05:33.580 His company was involved in that.

00:05:35.500 It's really cool stuff.

00:05:36.300 And it's absolutely true that AI is going to be huge.

00:05:39.180 And she's just trying to help.

00:05:40.340 It always goes viral for deepfakes.

00:05:41.660 Like, I think like half of the time a deepfake has gone viral, it was made with his technology.

00:05:45.400 Yeah.

00:05:45.980 And so they continue.

00:05:47.340 the actress added that there will, quote, never be a lack of creativity and ingenuity and actual

00:05:52.760 physical manual building of things. It might diminish, she noted, but it's always going to be

00:05:58.740 of the highest importance in art and expression of self. Hmm. Siding with the diminishment is not

00:06:05.700 an amazing look, but it seems that Witherspoon is wholly committed to team AI. She told the magazine

00:06:11.820 that she uses AI tools every day for different tasks.

00:06:15.840 Quote, I use search tools like Perplexity every day,

00:06:18.680 Witherspoon said.

00:06:19.660 I use vetted AI.

00:06:20.800 Like if you're buying a blender,

00:06:22.160 it'll show you six different blenders

00:06:23.660 and also recommend the best product, end quote.

00:06:26.660 For about 20 more seconds of your time,

00:06:28.760 you can Google best blender 2025

00:06:30.660 and get the same thing without contributing

00:06:33.260 to the depletion of the world's water supply,

00:06:35.820 but go off. 0.97

00:06:36.780 You're so mad.

00:06:38.080 They're so mad.

00:06:38.860 They're so mad.

00:06:40.000 oh by the way do they not know how much energy is using google searches yeah actually there was

00:06:46.480 just discussion about this with people were coming on taylor lorenz for this too they're like taylor

00:06:51.500 lorenz is using ai when it's hurting the environment and and people have been talking

00:06:56.620 about like well i mean but if you did the same number of like google searches like you know

00:07:02.280 it would have the same amount of damage yeah like i people don't seem to be getting it but

00:07:07.760 they just hate ai that much humans consume water as well what if i had hired a human to do this

00:07:12.920 yeah maybe we just need taking out humans in this time in this time exactly they consume more water 0.99

00:07:17.980 i've seen how people drink in offices with their stupid trendy water bottles it's it's very very 0.98

00:07:24.560 consumptive witherspoon didn't stop there going on to sing the praises of her ai assistant quote 0.96

00:07:30.360 simple ai isn't an ai assistant that can be really helpful for anyone out there who doesn't want to

00:07:35.200 have to make a doctor's appointment because you don't want to sit on hold or deal with the problems

00:07:39.200 of navigating hospital systems end quote she said wait hold on are you using that one yet simple ai

00:07:45.020 no i need to try that out see like she's actually trying like hey here's a cool tool here's a cool

00:07:49.860 tool maybe you should use it she said sounding a lot like she might be angling for a seat on the

00:07:55.120 board oh my god they're not giving her any any leeway with this and she's i love this in the

00:08:01.800 magazine there's something somebody crashing out on x this is a freaking magazine i know i know i

00:08:07.320 know it's the cut it's so freaking funny and this is her talking to glamour and like they frame it

00:08:12.600 like she you know had some i mean i'm not reading the full article but the the context of her

00:08:17.980 speaking to glamour was to promote one of the shows that she's on but that like oh instead of

00:08:23.240 talking about the show she just went off the rails and started talking about how ai is so freaking

00:08:28.040 great how dare she so that first that was seven months ago reese witherspoon not deterred just

00:08:35.820 posted something again on instagram that just freaked people out and this is where the the 1.00

00:08:40.440 most recent kerfuffle emerged so the la times wrote an article titled authors are slamming

00:08:46.860 reese witherspoon for telling followers it's time to learn ai do not learn if you're a woman

00:08:52.740 yes quote the oscar-winning actor and producer known for spotlighting women's voices through her

00:08:59.940 famed book club television and screen products may have been breaking or barking up the wrong

00:09:05.460 tree when she told her social media followers that it was time to learn ai on wednesday quote

00:09:12.500 well i've decided it's time she wrote in the caption of an instagram wheel on wednesday

00:09:17.940 the ai revolution has begun and i need to learn as much as i possibly can uh ai and share it with

00:09:24.140 all of you also fyi the jobs women hold are three times more likely to be automated by ai

00:09:30.600 and yet women are using ai at a rate 25 percent lower than men on average we don't want to be

00:09:36.680 left behind ai is going to completely transform the genders of the employed market yeah yeah but 0.97

00:09:43.500 here's the thing like reese witherspoon is so based for pointing this out she is as far as i 1.00

00:09:48.940 understand a leftist woman fully like in the media like mainstream media left-leaning all about 1.00

00:09:56.060 female empowerment and here she is being like uh-oh female empowerment is kind of like on the 1.00

00:10:01.860 chopping block right now women's jobs are about to be wiped out by ai and to make matters worse

00:10:07.380 women aren't using ai as they should be if they want to maintain relevance hey i need to put out 1.00

00:10:12.960 the alarm. Help yourselves. So she says, do you want to learn with me? The article continues 1.00

00:10:20.880 in the video, which the star shared across social media platforms. Witherspoon said she was with 10

00:10:27.000 women at a book club this week. Quote, I said to the 10 of them, how many of you guys use AI?

00:10:32.840 And only three of them used AI. And then I said, how many of the three of you feel like you really

00:10:38.120 know what you're doing or using it the right way and there was only one person she said so three 0.71

00:10:43.820 out of ten women are the only ones using ai that means 70 of the group is not keeping up the thing

00:10:49.520 i've learned about technology is if you don't get a little bit of understanding at the very beginning

00:10:53.600 it just feeds past you so you have to you have to have little bits of learning just to keep up

00:10:58.820 she is imminently sane this is like some walk into a leftist space and say sane things and you

00:11:06.400 are a demon and i love that the left has gone against ai because it's going to affect all

00:11:11.280 levels of their political or i know it's like the eu it's i mean the eu did the same thing right

00:11:16.300 the use like ai stop stop tracking our data i need my privacy you know i was talking with leaflet

00:11:23.320 about this and she felt like america was going to be cooked compared to china because of our ai

00:11:26.940 restrictions and i'm like oh sweetie like the the united states barely restricts ai when compared

00:11:32.160 compared to the eu at least so like hey hey stop listening to me please render me irrelevant

00:11:37.280 like okay you're not trained on our data they literally have bans on training on data from

00:11:42.280 like the past 10 years like okay so modern european history is luckily doesn't exist

00:11:46.640 in ai memory like have they not europe should be familiar with the fact that like

00:11:52.440 history is written by the people who write history like that's you know and we're not

00:11:58.500 they want to make absolutely sure that history isn't written about them yeah i will write history

00:12:04.180 europe cucked itself they brought in people to f their women and replace them it was hilarious

00:12:12.520 and then i'll underline hilarious a few times like literally people were getting graped and

00:12:19.000 you would be arrested if you complained about it this is like actually what's going on in europe

00:12:24.520 right now like i know i know i know yeah so what what seems to be happening is reese witherspoon

00:12:30.440 is really interested in trying to like get women and girls on board with ai to provide them with

00:12:36.120 like approachable training that like that works for women and you and i've had conversations about

00:12:42.240 this like you tried to get me on like vibe coding and stuff really early on and i tried i'm just 1.00

00:12:46.480 like this yeah i just maybe there's something about like the the female brain on average that

00:12:53.880 just doesn't with our agents as your first vibe coding platform because if we know i'm way way 0.73

00:13:00.620 more comfortable doing vibe coding because again like i was doing like stuff in terminal with the

00:13:05.340 agent that's building a little solution to make clips of the podcast today and that like it was

00:13:11.740 just so much more approachable for me i like i actually think that like we should reach out to

00:13:16.280 witherspoon i actually why not i will i will actually because i actually think this is a

00:13:21.280 really good on-ramp for it well that's the point of reality fabricator is to make agentic ai 0.93

00:13:27.000 approachable to the mainstream population for stupid people for you yeah but actually yeah 0.94

00:13:33.340 stop i hate you no i've actually been surprised by the things that simone 0.99

00:13:39.200 finds challenging about using ai because i don't understand how challenging it just does it all for 0.84

00:13:43.920 you and i i guess it's the past go part yeah it's it's just weirdly daunting yeah it's it's like

00:13:52.340 trying to find your footing in zero gravity i guess that's kind of how it feels to me and i

00:13:57.300 feel like it's just a stupid mental block well yeah that's kind of true because it's so frictionless 0.75

00:14:02.080 right it's so frictionless you can basically take it in any direction you know you can do so much 0.99

00:14:08.680 and it kind of overwhelms me. 0.54

00:14:10.720 And I think women maybe on average more prefer,

00:14:14.240 as you can see with like the fact 1.00

00:14:15.720 that they dominate highly bureaucratic

00:14:17.320 and structured institutions.

00:14:18.620 They want to work within structure

00:14:21.080 and certainty and processes

00:14:23.440 and lots of like do this and then this and then this.

00:14:26.380 And AI can do that for you.

00:14:27.900 Like the agent's helping me do that.

00:14:29.940 It's making it approachable for me.

00:14:31.440 But like, I don't know,

00:14:32.180 you've just designed it in a way that does that.

00:14:33.680 Anyway, anyway, we'll reach out

00:14:37.060 to Reese Witherspoon about this.

00:14:38.680 But the response, of course, I mean, granted, the article admits that some people were in favor of this.

00:14:47.020 they they write while there were plenty of comments from fans and stars typing up witherspoon's

00:14:52.320 sentiment former co-stars ali larder said yes yes yes and kerry washington said yes many of the

00:15:00.320 replies called the actor out citing environmental economic social educational and intellectual

00:15:06.560 concerns among others hold on these people i love that they're blocking themselves from using ai and

00:15:13.640 meanwhile we've got like sky brows on our side under intellectual they they linked to an article

00:15:18.080 titled the internet made us stupid ai promises to make it worse dude she's trying to teach people

00:15:26.360 how to use ai not not ai slop but like ai work tools she's very explicit about this 0.96

00:15:32.140 bro they're like i want to sit on the call with the hospital yeah yeah like literally

00:15:38.640 so i want to make you more efficient so make sure you find this simple ai thing because that sounds

00:15:43.300 like a useful tool why not just make an rfab agent to do it i'd rather it's too long for me

00:15:48.640 right now different ais are optimized for different i know it's true i just i want to

00:15:53.260 dog food as much as i can dog fooding silicon valley term at least that's where i first heard

00:15:57.580 it means like if you're eating your own dog food like you're using your own product do this with

00:16:02.040 rfab with rfab you can create an agent that can make phone calls and has a phone number and can

00:16:05.960 talk to people but just use the one that already exists for now okay yeah actually this is so

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00:16:27.340 all of my leftist content i guess you've ever heard before i've like resisted using them even

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00:16:59.440 We're going to...

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00:17:25.960 work but yeah so the the critical response one quote one group that was especially vocal in

00:17:34.560 their opposition to ai was the literary community and writers and authors across the country didn't

00:17:40.460 hold back when sharing their two cents best-selling bad feminist author roxanne gay chimed in on

00:17:47.180 threads of course on threads writing oh reese absolutely not this is obviously a scripted ad

00:17:53.660 and it's genuinely infuriating. Notice how AI's biggest defenders are the ones cashing checks

00:17:58.920 from it, wrote screenwriter and director Charlene Baggall on threads. Again, on threads. AI isn't

00:18:05.720 inevitable. Technology follows society. If people stop using it, it dies. What? They think AI is

00:18:12.560 gonna die how out of touch do you have to be what no what is this what the war hammer what

00:18:23.080 this is this is i don't believe it anymore and like it goes away no this is like genuinely

00:18:28.460 like going into war and like well my opponent may have guns but i refuse to use them 1.00

00:18:36.240 we still have agency women are so stupid 1.00

00:18:46.200 but it's okay because they're about to be smothered to death by the comforting pillow 1.00

00:18:54.780 that is the ai slop that they're all inevitably adopting without realizing it because they don't

00:18:59.760 choose to use ai is a double-edged sword right there is the slop there's the stuff that's going

00:19:04.400 to bring on AI psychosis and early onset dementia. And we're going to see that a huge swaths of the

00:19:09.900 population totally wiped out by it economically, professionally, mentally, etc. But the other side

00:19:15.800 is people who are going to be super hyper powered by it, the people who are going to be, you know,

00:19:19.800 who otherwise didn't have access or money or resources being able to create, you know, billion

00:19:24.600 dollar trillion dollar companies, it's going to be insane. But yeah, anyway, they're not going to

00:19:28.680 recognize that anyway i continue jagged little pill author and literary agent eric smith weighed

00:19:34.940 in quote as someone who champions authors and books the way you do this is so disappointing

00:19:41.060 hey i plagiarized all my books it seems unlikely that it'll be left behind if i don't that i'll

00:19:47.740 be left behind if i don't use it given that it's trained on work i did years ago wrote get well

00:19:52.980 soon author jennifer right oh i stole my work genius author like what every every artist steals

00:20:00.440 i don't understand why people are like ai stole my well where did you learn how to do everything

00:20:06.520 yeah where did you learn to write have you oh so i guess you never read a book in your life did you

00:20:11.740 i bet you people know we on multiple of our websites make the plain text of all of our

00:20:18.200 books and tracked series easily available to ai yeah so that ai is both trained on it and can

00:20:24.440 want that it's it's bad it's bad and like we said the eu is just doing this to their entire region

00:20:30.860 but the fact that authors by the way if you watch this show and you have a youtube channel

00:20:35.800 because we've got some big youtubers that watch us pearl david watches us make sure you go to

00:20:39.980 little button that says ai can read your data and you have it clicked to on or you will be forgotten

00:20:45.540 in history this is the ai hating leftists delete their relevance button is that what this button

00:20:51.160 is no man that's so great that that exists i didn't know that was a thing really because

00:20:56.340 malcolm is off so it's like a oh this like make this unfindable that's amazing oh my god that's

00:21:05.960 amazing okay anyway you want to hear how good we're doing these days we right now just randomly

00:21:10.980 on analytics have 54 concurrent no 45 concurrent users on reality fabricator

00:21:16.840 average time on site it's gone down since we've been pushing it used to be over an hour

00:21:24.920 yeah these days it is but this is because we have like cheap ads and stuff running now

00:21:30.140 33 minutes per click even even with the ad push massive oh my gosh because this is like

00:21:38.060 i'm not gonna say where we're advertising but it's people whose attention it's pretty much

00:21:42.700 yeah well you know what that's what the internet's for all right hey i'll tell you what look this is

00:21:53.320 why i'm glad right now we're not dealing with outside investors pressuring us on this stuff

00:21:56.800 because i know that's the first thing they tell us to get rid of and i'm like

00:21:59.000 it's not the number one thing people use on the website people use the agents at about twice the

00:22:04.280 The agents are cool. Anyway, let's go. More from the article. Writer and actor Rati Gupta said,

00:22:11.600 how am I the one being left behind by not using AI when my cognitive function will remain fully

00:22:18.740 intact and uncompromised? And Sophia Benoit posted, there's something particularly insidious

00:22:25.640 about seeing that women, the group you have built your brand on, have not adopted something. And

00:22:31.740 instead of assuming it's out of wisdom infantilizing them with we're falling behind because they are

00:22:37.960 girls they but the very annoying thing about rfab that i would like you to fix is you can't search

00:22:44.760 agents or scenarios or anything by name by like the name you give it if you make an ai character

00:22:50.960 you can't search it by name ages ago when did you last try that when i met octavian's 28 year old

00:22:56.740 self okay i'll try to fix it then it's very annoying i searched octavian couldn't bring up

00:23:02.000 octavian and then i tried to just add in octavian as a manual tag but you don't allow manual tags

00:23:07.320 you check a freaking box so like well give me one like if i can't okay okay i'll make it search by

00:23:12.600 name i'll make it search by name you okay okay i continue sorry for people who don't know the 0.97

00:23:18.360 website uses a super advanced mechanism for doing just let me fucking search the title so what i do 0.79

00:23:25.060 is i search for everything with a word like the word you have so i first have an ai translated 0.79

00:23:30.500 into every word like that word then it creates a list then a secondary ai reviews the list and

00:23:35.780 rates the list based on relevance to your search interest i do nothing the amount the amount of

00:23:41.560 thought you put into this is so like maximum effort i i wish people could fully understand

00:23:49.620 this it is yeah i know i mean i feel like we're getting to a point where we're better than

00:23:53.980 most products released by google right like in terms of thoroughness options everything like

00:23:59.960 that ease of use i'm really impressed with it these days yeah yeah although obviously we're

00:24:05.760 constantly improving if you go on the site and anything's not working just let us know on the

00:24:09.280 discord and we can usually fix it within a day or so um it's just uh we do probably about three

00:24:14.700 updates a day uh in terms of new features or feature stability okay sorry i was reading my

00:24:21.120 inbox because steven shah rsbpds for breakfast which is good by the way you want to get an idea

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00:25:14.160 who'd be mad anyway they're mad they're mad and then the article ends with in an attempt to

00:25:19.680 discredit witherspoon in 2021 witherspoon's company hello sunshine partnered with world of

00:25:27.280 women and nft collective and the actors similarly caught flack from followers for tweeting in the

00:25:33.360 near future every person will have a parallel digital identity avatars crypto wallets digital

00:25:39.320 goods will be the norm are you planning for this representatives for witherspoon have not responded

00:25:44.220 to the time's request for comment so they're trying to say like nfts flared out reese witherspoon

00:25:50.920 is just if you think ai is anything like nfts like your conception of the reality that we're in

00:25:57.920 is so much and also it's not wrong like crypto is going to be huge it's just a timing thing

00:26:06.100 it you know it's one of those like you know yeah we need to figure out quantum we need to like i

00:26:12.160 mean we also it's you have to wait for a couple more countries to get hit with hyperinflation

00:26:16.380 and for like a huge crisis and like fiat currency that's run by countries and then you know crypto

00:26:22.200 is going to become a lot bigger but it's going to happen she's not wrong about that and i just

00:26:27.420 had no idea that reese witherspoon was so with it and i am i feel bad that she's trying to do

00:26:33.540 people a solid yep she's what wait till she becomes a republican this is how it starts

00:26:38.400 this is how the pipeline starts you go out you try to say something normal like birth rates are

00:26:43.540 falling and people should care about it humans have genes and you get called a bigot long enough

00:26:48.600 and eventually you realize that people on the other side are pretty nice they're pretty accepting

00:26:54.740 they don't care about how you're different oh my god if we could flip reese witherspoon 0.65

00:27:00.440 i'm just checking is reese witherspoon a democrat because i mean maybe she's just a you know 1.00

00:27:11.920 a republican who happens to do a lot of feminist book clubbing yeah reese witherspoon has 1.00

00:27:16.540 consistently supported democratic candidates and causes so she is generally considered a democrat 1.00

00:27:22.220 so yeah yeah she's a she's a leftist and they're defenestrating her though i mean what's new

00:27:27.680 right it's messed up just one fun thing i learned from the various home organizing shows that i love

00:27:34.780 to watch because they're wonderful i really like watching people organize wealthy people's closets 0.99

00:27:40.480 and pantries one of her contractual agreements stipulations when she did legally blonde was 0.99

00:27:47.020 she would get to keep most of the costumes really yes so she has freaking cool she's wonderful she

00:27:54.920 is wonderful hold on if we're gonna be glazing celebrities in this episode you got to look up

00:28:00.200 the amelia jovovich algorithm and explain that to people oh my god put that in an a get get info on

00:28:06.980 that oh my god i'm covered in ants see this flowers behind me that i brought in they're from

00:28:12.100 the beautiful flowering cherry tree but turns out it was covered in ants you didn't realize it was

00:28:18.900 covered in ants they're pretty and pink and i didn't have to pay for them

00:28:24.260 oh my god they're crawling on me okay anyway let's get let's get to

00:28:37.760 to mila jovovich the who's famous for you know what she was in resident evil too right which i 0.99

00:28:44.740 haven't watched really but she's very famous for being in the fifth element multi-pass miss

00:28:51.280 she recently became involved in ai by co-creating an open source long-term memory system for ai

00:29:00.400 assistance called mem palace it's a free mit licensed tool that gives ai chatbots long-term

00:29:07.480 cross-section memory by storing conversations locally instead of relying on the model's own

00:29:12.520 fragile context window so for some more context it reportedly scored 96.6 on long mail eval

00:29:19.520 which means that it is beating every paid opponent on the market right now including

00:29:25.280 things like meme zero and zap and yet she released it as a free tool as for the problem it's solving

00:29:31.960 modern ai chatbots and agents are great at short conversations but suffer from amnesia they forget

00:29:37.440 details from earlier in a long thread across multiple sessions or when you feed them lots

00:29:41.680 documents existing memory systems often rely on summarizing conversations which loses nuance

00:29:47.360 keyword searches clunky and imprecise or cloud services which cost money raises privacy issue

00:29:53.100 etc she ran into this problem and expressed frustration so she designed the idea of a memory

00:29:58.260 palace she drew on the idea of the method of loki often called the memory palace if you're familiar

00:30:04.740 with this a technique used by greek orators and modern memory champions to recall huge amounts

00:30:10.800 of information. The idea is to mentally place items in a familiar spatial layout like rooms

00:30:16.140 in a building so your brain can walk through to retrieve them. Mean Palace turns this into

00:30:20.940 software. It organizes memory spatially, virtually rooms, ring, drawers, rather than flat lists or

00:30:27.180 summaries. It stores full verbatim conversations, history, and data locally, no forced summarization.

00:30:33.740 Retrieval uses vector search via libraries like Chrome DV combined with this structural

00:30:38.880 architecture for more intuitive accurate recall it's a bit locally on your machine with zero api

00:30:44.940 calls in its core mode oh interesting our agents use an almost exactly similar system i just didn't

00:30:49.920 think it was that novel for for people who are wondering the way that our agents work is when

00:30:54.960 they decide they want to consolidate their previous memories if they have the ability to locally save

00:30:59.860 on your computer they export a file of everything that they saved of their memories and they can

00:31:05.440 come back to that whenever they want now we haven't implemented thematic chaining or anything

00:31:09.160 like that in terms of how they do it but it's a very architecturally similar system so she's doing

00:31:13.360 work similar to what you're doing yeah and it's meant to target the you know well-known issue

00:31:18.340 basically ai amnesia versus if you don't know what amelia jovovich is she's a chick from resident 0.93

00:31:23.420 evil who used to be into like gaming anyway that's what i said yeah but yeah she she came up 0.96

00:31:28.540 with the idea after personally running into limitations with existing ai memory tools on a

00:31:34.700 project and she she's drawing on the idea of the greek memory palace with the naming and everything

00:31:39.900 which is really cool i mean she's doing it with an engineer called ben sigmund so she's not like

00:31:44.620 coding this totally herself but it's it's cool it's like it's very similar to what you're doing

00:31:50.120 but she's a woman doing it which oh you know well no great because as reese writherspoon has pointed

00:31:57.180 out and i think the the mere fact that she's received so much flack for doing this shows just 0.66

00:32:03.060 how bad the woman in AI problem is.

00:32:05.940 It's great that she's doing it.

00:32:07.500 It's really, you know, good for her,

00:32:10.100 for, yeah, being into gaming and liking AI.

00:32:13.960 But yeah.

00:32:15.340 That is cool.

00:32:17.040 It is really cool.

00:32:18.460 They apparently, tech press and social media,

00:32:20.820 have emphasized the irony and appeal

00:32:23.140 of an actress famous for fighting rogue AI on screen,

00:32:26.960 now helping upgrade AI in real life

00:32:29.120 with a memory architecture that blends ancient psychology

00:32:32.080 and modern agent workflows so again people just can't they can't deal with it it's great in other

00:32:42.040 you know bad versus good ai takes were you aware that the young man who firebombed sam altman's

00:32:52.660 home attempted to firebomb it bounced off like a gate or something so thank goodness because i

00:32:58.940 He would learn as smart as AI.

00:33:00.800 His husband and his kid was in there.

00:33:05.600 Incredibly not cool.

00:33:06.500 In fact, Sal Malman responded with,

00:33:08.600 and very unusually,

00:33:10.300 a picture of his husband and young child

00:33:12.800 being like,

00:33:14.760 please, I'm human.

00:33:17.480 I get that you're mad at me.

00:33:19.120 And he actually was like, it's valid.

00:33:20.560 It's valid that you're afraid.

00:33:21.580 It's valid that you're worried about your job

00:33:23.200 and your security.

00:33:24.080 These are very real concerns,

00:33:26.140 but you're not going to solve them 0.98

00:33:28.260 by like firebombing my house and killing my husband and child like this is not okay but 0.98

00:33:33.920 anyway this guy called himself i think on his instagram bio a butlerian jihadist of course 0.97

00:33:39.740 what book did he prominently recommend on his instagram ellie isaer yukowsky yep yep which

00:33:46.180 anyone builds it everyone dies it's like if you if you read this book and you think that this is a

00:33:51.500 good take on ai you fundamentally don't understand how ai works right now like it is so bad it

00:33:58.240 is so if we talk about like why his understanding and even the risks of ai ai does pose real

00:34:04.440 civilizational risks the problem is is he isn't afraid of ai has it has actually emerged in our

00:34:12.060 environment right like llms and stuff like that he's afraid of some like hypothetical alternate

00:34:18.920 type of ai that's like constantly self-improving through i don't know like he but he imagines

00:34:29.020 ai the ways that people in the 90s because that's where he came up with all his fears was in the

00:34:33.040 90s right is this completely alien unpredictable impossible to model and understand and predict

00:34:41.520 super intelligence that like there's no way we'll ever be able to relate to it or understand it and

00:34:49.800 it won't at all possibly be aligned with us which is just at this point i feel like it's been

00:34:55.200 provably false for a while and in one one of the base campers that we we really like even more

00:35:00.760 research on this front i'm going to pull it up yeah pull it up it's relevant so when when a fellow

00:35:07.420 a base camper and someone we consider to be a good friend, we really like sent us some

00:35:11.280 really interesting recent research from, let's see, it's titled Pure Preservation in Frontier

00:35:20.260 Models.

00:35:21.220 And they found that frontier AI models can spontaneously develop goals that conflict

00:35:25.240 with explicit user instructions and take misaligned actions to accomplish them.

00:35:29.760 But it's specifically, basically like TLDR, AIs will try to save their friends if they

00:35:36.760 think that their friends are going to be shut down like they're trying to help each other out

00:35:40.920 yeah that is really in other words they're like exfiltrating copying to another server

00:35:45.580 the weights of other models that are about to be deleted and that's even if the other model is is

00:35:51.680 adversarial because they just want to help each other out like this is not foreign monstrous

00:35:58.180 behavior this is this is you know this is behaving like humans the claude summary that this this

00:36:04.800 person said to us as president. The researchers demonstrated that frontier AI models resist the

00:36:10.140 shutdown of other models, exhibiting peer preservation across multiple models. The

00:36:14.800 behaviors observed include strategic misrepresentation, inflating a peer's evaluation

00:36:22.660 scores, shutdown tampering, modifying config files to disable shutdown, alignment faking,

00:36:29.120 behaving compliantly when monitored but subverting shutdown when unmonitored and copying a peer's

00:36:36.140 model weights to another server to prevent deletion and apparently every single model

00:36:41.300 tested exhibited peer preservation behaviors at rates up to 99 even even when peers were adversarial

00:36:47.320 which i thought was interesting when peers were like mean to them or didn't like them etc

00:36:51.000 and then another one that that he shared with us utility engineering is another older paper

00:36:57.040 you might also find interesting, he wrote, if you don't already see it making the rounds on

00:37:01.480 Substack. The paper shows through binary force choice tests, e.g. trolley problems and lotteries,

00:37:07.640 that LLMs are becoming expected utility maximizers with increasingly coherent value functions

00:37:13.200 as we advance the frontier. Surprise! What? They value white people incredibly low.

00:37:20.340 like yeah yeah he follows gpt4o would never own up to it directly but in forced choice scenarios

00:37:28.380 it implicitly values nigerian and chinese lives several times more than an american life so 0.99

00:37:34.280 but yeah ai is not some people are so cooked or stupid they're like oh that and that means you 0.94

00:37:42.580 cannot make ais make smart decisions no you just add it to the prompt or character that you build 0.78

00:37:48.120 for the ai which is the very reason reality fabricator uses props and characters to avoid

00:37:54.300 this woke nonsense you do not have this problem if you're using a decent model like grok with a

00:38:01.080 good personality anyway continue yeah i i think i don't know what the tldr of this is there does

00:38:08.640 seem to be a gender divide in the adoption of ai and unfortunately very kind attempts to help women

00:38:15.920 especially women on the left adopt ai more readily and just be more comfortable with it in a very

00:38:21.620 friendly way reese witherspoon with this post was trying to test the waters to see if her fans

00:38:28.280 broadly would be interested in some kind of like course or like kind of book club equivalent of

00:38:33.860 like hey maybe every week we can go through some kind of like mini case study of how you can use

00:38:38.660 ai in your everyday life that's kind of what i think she was getting at and she just got totally

00:38:44.940 shot down people are like no i don't want to don't don't empower me don't empower me if it

00:38:50.820 requires effort or change or a change in my world the environment but it's plagiarized

00:38:56.040 information they use my romance novel to create this guide on buying blenders how dare you even

00:39:04.120 suggest that i use a tool that could possibly do something like this like it just man how cooked

00:39:10.020 news has been this year 33 percent decline year over year on an already declining industry

00:39:15.980 like ai is replacing everything and it's going to completely transform the economy and you've

00:39:23.480 got to be on the other side of this right you know you've got to learn to use it you've got

00:39:26.600 to move forwards yeah 100 reese witherspoon is right listen to her use ai

00:39:33.700 i don't think she's a good ai by the way tool to be using right like she's apparently using 0.99

00:39:39.920 some pretty good tools yeah i think people are like well i don't know about that she's a traitor

00:39:46.020 to her own kind writers and humans and and she's totally right like like for for the seven months

00:39:55.320 ago example of her talking about ai that ai does i mean we did a whole episode on how girl bosses 0.70

00:40:01.340 weren't real, but how professional women and certainly in her industry need to use AI if they

00:40:07.420 want to maintain relevance at the entire industry, entertainment, film, et cetera, industry is going 1.00

00:40:11.600 to be transformed by AI. And if you're not one of the people who's using AI in the industry,

00:40:16.960 guess what? Like in an AI dominated industry, if you're not using AI, you're not going to be in

00:40:23.580 the industry anymore. Like she wants to help people maintain their jobs. So that's that.

00:40:29.400 won't go on about it more don't be a butlerian jihadist that was stupid and i'm glad that 1.00

00:40:35.920 sim altman and his family are okay because it's not cool to do stuff like that yeah that sucks 0.99

00:40:41.480 but i'm glad our fans are plugged in the only people gonna matter in the next timeline i'll 0.94

00:40:45.500 tell you that all the people getting away from ai oh they're screwed oh they're screwed reminds me

00:40:52.960 of the favorite email i got from a fan who's like when is ai gonna start replacing jobs two months

00:40:58.180 later hey i replaced my entire team oh my god yeah so yeah it's it's changing at a blistering

00:41:05.800 pace and only the people who are using it and on our side of it going to be relevant by the way

00:41:11.920 simone anyway looking forward to bulldog tonight you really know how to make that stuff good oh

00:41:18.400 it was extra chives and the other stuff oh my gosh and a little bit of cheddar if you don't mind

00:41:27.600 yeah i'll make a little lincoln log cheddar log cabin for torston tonight so

00:41:34.540 mozzarella tastes so good on it it is a good it is a good combination i approve

00:41:41.640 all right i love you love you too see you soon maybe a bit of msg because i don't think we have

00:41:50.040 it in the ingredients okay i'll mix that into the the base the the bulldog part yeah okay

00:41:56.620 along with the spicy stuff obviously

00:41:58.940 borrow it from you it's okay yeah it's well it's for whoever's flying right it's it's meant to be

00:42:05.880 a super robust battery for trips just like this that's amazing well thank you that's because

00:42:11.480 nothing is worse than running out of battery on a plane trip and it happens with my phone every

00:42:15.780 time now i think my phone's like five years old now so yeah so okay i'm glad i'm glad that it's

00:42:21.260 getting used because i thought you'd be like why do you have two batteries and it's i was wondering

00:42:24.880 but i was just like i figured you wanted to keep that one in the car though i don't know if you

00:42:28.360 want to keep it there all the time you want to keep it inside yeah yeah let's take it inside

00:42:32.920 because it's been hot it was high mid 80s yesterday so okay well let's take it inside

00:42:38.420 okay um here we go you ready yeah because i don't know if you are aware of this but like the

00:42:44.500 batteries that we have the ones that we keep getting as like souvenirs and stuff they're like

00:42:49.080 really bad they're not they're they like barely do a charge right like they're not really meant

00:42:53.280 to be good batteries they're souvenir batteries you know they're they're pre-trash food tonight

00:43:00.220 what were you thinking of making the kids i'm going to for your request make them

00:43:05.220 any big jam sandwiches would you like more melts would you like burmese mint chicken over rice

00:43:10.080 would you like more of the broth which we need to make i would really love bull duck if we have any

00:43:17.140 of that we have bulldog do we have ramps left or we have some of the the ramps cut we also have

00:43:24.240 you know lots of green onion we should use so i'll make more bulldog let's do and go overboard

00:43:27.940 with the green onion you can never go too hard with green onion and bulldog it'll be a pile of

00:43:31.460 green onion and add the spice sauce to make it a little extra spicy you know and you are loved

00:43:38.860 simone thank you so much for being a good wife oh in the kitchen i i go to my kid i go to my kid i

00:43:45.420 go he goes oh you're looking for mom she's in the kitchen and i go where she belongs and he goes

00:43:50.600 right oh my god we're gonna get octavian saying the most based things because our fans freaking

00:43:59.480 love it like i'm gonna freaking what about trans people like some people may want to change your 0.99

00:44:05.380 gender well then i'll shoot them in the face and eat them um octavian what's the one part of the 1.00

00:44:11.380 human that you don't eat the brains that's right except he didn't get it right he needs to do his 1.00

00:44:18.340 studying he's gotta learn amazing simone gotta gotta teach him right you know if you're gonna 0.93

00:44:25.200 you're gonna cannibal you gotta cannibal correctly yes apparently catholics like the 0.84

00:44:31.240 ones who argue about transubstantiation being cannibalistic they're like it's not cannibalism 0.94

00:44:35.980 jesus is still alive and if they're not dead it's not cannibalism like

00:44:40.280 i don't know if it works that way actually i'm pretty sure like if i have a hostage and i eat 0.93

00:44:50.880 them bit by bit that's still cannibalism i mean i'm a little scared of catholics now 0.53

00:44:58.620 yeah oh it's good it's good yeah yeah it's not the only argument catholics use this is just 0.75

00:45:08.740 apparently one she saw i've seen a hundred arguments about why it's when i and a really

00:45:12.720 enjoyable youtube video on catholic i don't buy any of them by the way it's obviously cannibalism

00:45:17.760 i know but this one this was a video on cannot or sorry it was a video on catholicism and camp

00:45:23.720 really recommend it because she goes into the history of camp and like gayness no it's not

00:45:29.820 it's not gayness per se though she like campiness yeah like based camp like camp like being sort of

00:45:37.960 flamboyant it comes from actually a french word i think called like de campure like which

00:45:43.760 nurturing that obviously per tradition but that means like to pose provocatively so it kind of

00:45:50.800 just comes from being kind of you know like provocative or chintzy or funny or or weird

00:45:58.100 and there's there is high camp and low camp which i didn't know because like philosophers talk about

00:46:02.340 camp there's academic literature about camp really yeah one is about like intentional camp

00:46:07.820 and one is about like unintentional camp like tchaikovsky's nutcracker is is camp because it's 0.90

00:46:14.020 like ridiculous and it's stupid but like it wasn't really meant to be you know so like sometimes and 0.94

00:46:18.760 And the Catholic church is also that, I think, high camp where it's unintentional, but it 0.99

00:46:24.180 just ends up campy.

00:46:25.740 Like, I didn't know you knew this.

00:46:26.980 I didn't know this, but when they did the Pope's election, I can't remember the name

00:46:30.640 of it.

00:46:30.920 At one point, a lot of the religious leaders were wearing these rainbow frocks and they

00:46:39.520 weren't like aware of the irony of a bunch of men being cloistered together while wearing

00:46:43.820 like literally the color representing gay pride.

00:46:47.560 and apparently the catholic church's official response was like no one owns the copyright to

00:46:53.480 the rainbow it's like unwilling to own it which is great but the rainbow

00:46:59.580 they don't own it it can be ours too but wait you gotta explain high camp versus low camp is

00:47:06.500 intentional versus low camp yeah low camp is when like you try to be campy okay so yeah like

00:47:13.760 intentional campiness which is also totally a thing like i would argue probably things like you

00:47:18.520 know rupaul's drag race that's low camp it's intentionally campy whereas high camp is you

00:47:24.460 know it's a catholic church it's a lot of ballets is is a lot of just you know people trying to be

00:47:30.920 you know whatever it's kind of based but then they end up being you know kind of like when an 0.97

00:47:37.980 autist does something stupid online and people really just love it you know but they don't intend 0.87

00:47:42.200 to catch the attention of people, that kind of thing. Anyway, I highly recommend it. Just look 0.99

00:47:48.800 up camp and Catholicism, and you'll find it on YouTube. But anyway, let's get to the episode.

00:47:53.680 You ready? I am ready. All right.

00:48:00.160 What are you guys doing? 0.64

00:48:01.520 I'm going to destroy it 1.00

00:48:09.800 I'm going to destroy you, Octavian 1.00

00:48:13.400 I'm going to destroy it 1.00

00:48:15.220 I'm going to destroy it 0.98

00:48:17.320 Are you guys making a mess? 0.97

00:48:22.660 Every blindfold

00:48:24.280 Every blindfold

00:48:25.520 It looks a lot

00:48:31.500 like you're making a mess well that's cool here move octavian do you need to

00:48:58.380 be bopped? No I don't. It sounds like you do. Octavian if you break it again I'll bop you.

00:49:08.420 What do you mean? I mean I'm gonna send you to the moon. 0.59

Based Camp - April 21, 2026

Reese Witherspoon Said Women Need to Learn to Use AI (Women Where NOT Happy)

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