Based Camp - June 08, 2026


Researching A Gang Bang Radicalized My Wife Against Early-Stage Abortion (We Were Wrong)


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9,870

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47

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00:00:00.000 my wife was actually radicalized by somebody who met their husband who they ended up having
00:00:08.220 a child with at a gangbang against early stage abortion yeah and not slightly radicalized i got
00:00:16.440 radicalized after hearing this story traumatized and radicalized and this has a lot of crying
00:00:23.120 it's emotionally of more of a roller coaster than you likely think so buckle in guys 0.98
00:00:28.660 america get your uteruses turp i'm a baby killer baby killer makes me honey
00:00:34.520 would you like to know more hello malcolm i'm excited to be speaking with you today because 0.96
00:00:46.480 romance isn't dead it turns out i didn't know this but one of the fluffers at ayla's birthday
00:00:53.420 gangbang has gone on to date one of the gentlemen attending and participating in the party and they
00:01:01.760 have a kid together now and they're getting married and you know it's so wholesome it's
00:01:07.120 wonderful but wholesome and wonderful no i love all the other conservatives are talking about 1.00
00:01:11.380 there's this like slutty woman who's using her gangbangs to like oh i'm gonna have a gangbang 1.00
00:01:17.140 for like my what was it like her kid's birth or like a birth shower or try to get pregnant 1.00
00:01:23.200 at a gang but you've you've seen this right oh no no no you're you're referring about to bonnie
00:01:27.800 blue her golden baby shower yes golden baby oh god definitely pregnant as a baby turn my baby
00:01:34.460 shower into a golden shower pregnancy is a big dish for a lot of people so i'm gonna make most
00:01:39.520 of it biggest live stream of a birth so gross yeah no we do not bonnie blue and ayla and her
00:01:47.340 circle completely different i can't even they are like i think people respect for bonnie blue
00:01:54.200 and what she does like she is her own extreme sports kind of person but the the ala cinematic
00:02:01.340 universe is one of and i think it's very misunderstood it is one of the most a circle
00:02:07.020 of the most intelligent articulate educated informed and intellectually curious people
00:02:14.840 in the world. They put 99.9% of postgraduate university students to shame. I would say 95%
00:02:24.600 of professors to complete shame. These are some of the most intellectual people that I've ever
00:02:30.600 encountered. They have amazing writing. We'll get into some of that. But what I love most about this
00:02:34.940 though, and this is where the twist comes actually, Malcolm, is not only am I like, this is really
00:02:40.280 sweet right we've gone from like gangbang to marriage and there's something to be said there
00:02:46.420 about kind of the way that life goes and also that you know maybe we we shouldn't fully judge
00:02:52.400 debauched lifestyles of a little bit of fun and hedonism and also that it's a kind of a really
00:02:58.020 common life progression and another reason why many male base campers should not be discounting
00:03:04.060 progressive women and writing them off which we see happening all the time but oh yeah people
00:03:09.920 are like oh you shouldn't date someone to change them or whatever people were so mad at my leaflet 1.00
00:03:13.880 video and i was like no that's like what i'm just saying realistically that is your pool of women
00:03:18.540 these days here's what's really really crazy though is romey holland this woman who went on
00:03:23.860 to get married you know gangbang organizer um barrier intelligent sex positive woman 0.98
00:03:31.560 has completely radicalized me on misoprostone and early term abortion. Like I'm complete, 1.00
00:03:41.540 like sea change for me against it. I used to be like, Hey, basically until you get signs of like,
00:03:48.800 you know, a human life that is capable of experiencing pain in like around like week
00:03:55.580 12 you don't really have like a the beginnings of a brain i guess i'm okay with abortion you know
00:04:03.120 especially you know just taking misoprostone if you need to because you're super super not ready
00:04:08.200 i have changed my view on this and it it wasn't it wasn't our catholic friends it wasn't our
00:04:16.400 our friends at the heritage foundation it wasn't anyone else right radicalized on abortion by a
00:04:23.680 gangbang woman. By, by, yeah, by a, by a fluffer. Well, she did, right. I mean, I was just looking 0.68
00:04:30.240 her up. And the first thing that comes up with her is a bunch of magazine articles saying this
00:04:34.700 heartbreaking, what nobody told me about abortion essay is going viral. It's, I'm going to read some
00:04:38.840 quotes from it. We're going to start with though the romance because romance is dead. I love it so
00:04:43.120 much. I love the story. So for those of you not familiar, who've somehow been living under a rock
00:04:49.100 or i don't know we're in a coma in 2024 ayla who is a sex researcher a friend episodes with us
00:04:56.800 before she's awesome close friends yeah she's one of the only people i've ever like when i
00:05:01.780 talked to them i felt like an immediate and deep connection she's a great person yeah just
00:05:06.320 incredible incredible person she had a birthday party and she was like you know what i would love
00:05:10.980 to have a gangbang for my birthday party so some of her close friends so kindly and generously
00:05:16.400 including romi holland romi helped her organize it and this this was a very complicated thing
00:05:22.560 they decided ultimately on on a a very good number 42 men you know it's perfect sort of
00:05:28.860 nerd reference gangbang number 42 oh my god tiger's guide to the galaxy right there i know 42
00:05:35.600 men we're a conservative podcast by the way right now we are considered radical that's why i have
00:05:39.880 to brief people on this okay just in case they don't know about the birthday gangbang 0.96
00:05:44.000 no i'm just i we have to admit that like we have friends who are whores like we have to admit that 0.93
00:05:51.320 like we're gosh if only we gotta we gotta be more like jesus and just never talk to whores right 0.90
00:05:58.180 like that's clearly the right answer here right no i mean winning people's hearts requires not 0.96
00:06:04.940 reflexively condemning them if they are attempting because i think you see with this person and in
00:06:12.680 her abortion essay and stuff like this this is not a community that's hearts are truly poisoned
00:06:18.500 they just need the truth shown to them in the in the in the right way and then it shocks them out
00:06:24.860 of it and that's what happened with this individual but continue i mean i don't know i just feel like
00:06:29.520 it's an i i went from being an ardent progressive though not exactly sex positive to just being
00:06:35.700 you know now a concern like it's a very natural and common progression but anyway so romey helped
00:06:41.600 to organize this and there was a lot of vetting in this i think i remember looking through the 0.98
00:06:46.540 survey for people applying you know they're obviously going through the kinks of these people
00:06:51.660 in an interview with on slate's podcast death sex and money romey talks about the
00:06:57.020 the the kind of the unique kink criteria they would go for like they didn't want
00:07:02.760 men who needed like a lot of like reinforcement and like oh like you're doing so great well
00:07:07.940 because you know it's a gangbang it's supposed to be like consensual non-consent right so like
00:07:11.500 they can't have men who are super needy who need ayla to like praise them because that's not the
00:07:15.840 look of this event so they you know vet for that they need to vet for a bunch of other things
00:07:19.520 obviously you know if you're a friend or something like you know you're probably in so there's a lot
00:07:24.900 of vetting involved and then of course on the actual day of the party you had to work through
00:07:30.020 all the logistics you know there's queuing and you want to have everyone you know sufficiently hard
00:07:35.300 for the moment of, of, of, of bang. And so then there's a big bowl of Viagra at the door,
00:07:41.920 but then there's also the need for arousal. And that, that is where the fluffy, sorry,
00:07:46.660 where the fluffers come in, including Romy, who very generously offered to participate
00:07:51.260 in a very involved way in the fluffing process, preparing men to deliver their birthday present
00:07:57.440 to Ayla. If you haven't explored the, the lore around the gangbang, you definitely should. There
00:08:03.180 was a a very viral Sankey diagram that Ayla had created because again she is a very intellectual
00:08:09.360 fun playful person I should not have been allowed at the gangbang do you remember why
00:08:13.520 oh yeah because you were something about LEIs you had Kowski so no accelerationist no AI
00:08:20.540 that's right yes it was no yes I remember something I was like oh yeah you definitely
00:08:24.780 would be allowed so Ayla made this this chart that sort of showed what happened to the various
00:08:30.080 participants so she the survey you know the application she released had 1 604 applicants
00:08:36.720 828 failed the auto filter 320 328 failed the manual filter 776 passed the auto filter 448
00:08:45.280 passed the manual fiction filter they contacted 251 men 143 didn't respond 25 are friends 87 of
00:08:52.960 those got invited and also 83 did an interview like it went it went went went and then 42 showed
00:08:57.920 up so they got 42 only 37 penetrated ayla only 17 came inside ayla they were in condoms only well
00:09:06.020 five came inside of fluffer who knows if romey was one of them and then 15 didn't come so 0.97
00:09:10.560 that this is the thing to an orgy and not coming that that sounds like well but malcolm this is a
00:09:17.120 42 person gangbang and it's like the way to be honest it's like the being at the dmv right like
00:09:24.680 you're queuing you're waiting like it's awkward there's other people there you know a lot of them
00:09:29.260 like because a bunch of them were ayla's friends like these are all i mean i guess those people
00:09:32.480 are more accustomed maybe to more group-ish sex environments but anyway it was in this milieu it
00:09:38.680 was in this mix at this lovely party that actually wasn't particularly fun for ayla or romi for their
00:09:44.200 reports that romi locked eyes with a man that she was fluffing she'd known him online a little bit
00:09:53.200 you know seen him post this is what i don't understand why
00:09:56.040 what if it's not fun okay and presumably she's done gangbangs before you don't know i don't
00:10:07.840 think she had that's the thing is i don't think she had and so there's this like well
00:10:11.680 because think think about so to safely do a gangbang if you're actually like vetting it
00:10:16.400 carefully and and doing it right and and keep in mind like again the this this type of sex positive
00:10:22.780 person in the bay area in the aila cinematic universe doesn't just do like consensual non
00:10:29.140 like oh let's just mess around like everyone like jump in the group no no at her consensual
00:10:33.660 non-consent parties you're wearing a lanyard that says what you can do to someone what you can't do
00:10:38.000 there are safe words there are safety talks like this stuff people are vetted there there's the
00:10:44.260 stuff the the places the careful location selection these are incredibly thoughtful
00:10:50.260 event said no i don't think she had done one before from my understanding she hadn't and so
00:10:53.500 like she wanted to try like she's an she's she's she believes in experimentation and so i don't
00:10:59.540 think she knew that she wasn't going to find it particularly enjoyable i think that i should add
00:11:06.580 this to our sins episode trying something only to try something well but she might have liked it and
00:11:13.040 she well you don't need to know everything in the world you might like even if it turned out i loved
00:11:18.580 gangbangers that is a fact i would not want to know about myself well i guess like are you like
00:11:24.280 yeah do you like private jet flights i guess that's that's one of the bigger issues in my view
00:11:31.340 like i could love flying on a private jet but can i afford to fly on a private jet like absolutely
00:11:36.720 not also i don't think i would know because i once had to drop a bunch of people off on a private jet
00:11:42.000 i didn't get to go on but i had to drop people off so freaking loud like we never took you on
00:11:48.680 our private jet no that was i was in the post private jet days when i entered your family 0.90
00:11:54.560 i didn't get to stop using it as much because it's inconvenient but yeah private jets suck
00:11:59.500 yeah they are so loud it's so loud on the tarmac and like the airports for the private jets were
00:12:06.040 like not just that it's like a bus station like a greyhound bus station i'm like what is this
00:12:10.800 this is not what i expected standard private jets like lears and stuff like that right they are
00:12:16.520 significantly smaller than you would expect on the inside especially for like the two rows
00:12:21.460 so like your entire you even see it like when the when the kardashians fly on their private jet like
00:12:26.420 it's a very nicely appointed private jet but it's small it's like it's yeah the entire flight your
00:12:30.860 head is like caught to the side because like against the side okay their private jets are
00:12:34.620 bigger than that and okay i did see the interior of one of the ladies private jets as i was dropping
00:12:39.020 everyone off and hers was very nice but she was also very wealthy so but like it's just I don't
00:12:44.880 know it just seemed uncomfortable and meh but anyway my point here though is what if Ayla 1.00
00:12:51.220 I think it'd be worse if Ayla really enjoyed the gangbang because then like how is like oh great
00:12:57.180 like now I'm never gonna have fun again unless I put out a thousand person survey and have like
00:13:02.980 10 of my friends work carefully around the clock to vet all these people and interview them and
00:13:07.260 organize them and you know of course throughout the entire process because she didn't want to put
00:13:10.640 the onus on the participants to kind of just both like consensually non-consensually penetrate her 0.99
00:13:16.800 she'd have two people with her the whole time like kind of watching her watching the men make 0.74
00:13:21.440 sure like nothing was going wrong making sure that she was fully lubricated handing them in the 0.97
00:13:25.720 sharpie because i think remember they had like a sharpie they were doing ticks on her leg to be
00:13:29.260 like remember this number that i think they even they did all these like really thoughtful things
00:13:32.800 too i think maybe there's a virgin there that one day and they're like same like they did a thing
00:13:36.320 for him or like i can't remember but like this was incredibly thoughtfully executed it's not
00:13:40.180 sustainable so that's my thing is maybe don't try things if if you can't afford to like do them
00:13:45.760 regularly if it's trying this to see if you like it kind of thing like you know do i like luxury
00:13:53.240 cars like i bet i do but i can't afford one so let's not get used to that anyway so they she
00:13:59.960 you know encounters this man like she had seen him posting around online but i think this is
00:14:05.520 also a very common illustration of how people meet now. This is a very techno feudal kind of
00:14:11.160 meet cute where like you see someone posting online, they're in your general online sort of
00:14:16.560 parasocial circles. And then it's some special event. It's some community-based gathering,
00:14:23.240 which this very much was, right? A mixture of sort of the online universe of a person
00:14:27.600 and their offline friends coming together for a special event. You meet someone in that universe.
00:14:32.860 you have some, some, some in-person chemistry, which you can't necessarily find online. You
00:14:40.080 know, you can't gauge that and it takes off from there. So, you know, it wasn't immediate. It wasn't
00:14:45.140 like, you know, he asked her out mid penetration because she, she was also, I think doing like 0.95
00:14:51.120 full penetrative fluffing, not like, like hand job or blow job fluffing from my understanding. 0.61
00:14:56.560 and anyway they they went later on a date and then they they became like more like a steady 0.71
00:15:04.060 boyfriend and girlfriend and then they had a kid together and now not only are they engaged to be
00:15:09.620 married soon but they're also for the time being at least monogamous and here you see this classic
00:15:17.000 gangbang to monogamy trend well no the thing is like i think people don't realize how common this
00:15:23.860 is like I I am the product of a broken polyamorous marriage I guess it's just like it wasn't really
00:15:31.760 well matched and then my mom was one of like a secondary for my dad but then eventually she was
00:15:39.380 like look this isn't for me like I want to have a kid someday either I'm moving to Colorado
00:15:46.060 or like maybe you decide that you want to be monogamous with me and my dad decided at actually
00:15:52.120 pretty significant social cost like per everything that you know the disruption that that caused
00:15:56.860 to become monogamous with my mother and i'm a result of that but like even back in the 80s this
00:16:02.360 was happening in the bay area so this is a surprisingly trad kind of arc and i'm really
00:16:08.460 happy for romi i'm really happy for her partner i'm really happy for their kid but what i did not
00:16:13.960 expect from this adorable and in my opinion very wholesome story was that she would radicalize me
00:16:20.180 against misoprostone, which I thought was like, now, you know, my stance has been very consistent
00:16:25.980 that like up until 12 weeks, I don't care. Like whatever, you know, if you want to take a pill
00:16:33.020 to end a pregnancy early, like this is not yet a, a, a sentient, like conscious.
00:16:37.480 People who understand why we take this position, if you're confused by this, I, I, I do not think
00:16:42.860 that you can, when there's no neural tissue, like, I don't think I lost part of my soul by
00:16:47.200 losing my finger or something like that right yeah when there's no neural tissue there is nothing
00:16:52.060 that can produce the effects that we in our society call a soul yeah and we we think it's
00:16:57.620 equally sinful as techno puritans to like choose not to have a kid when you could it doesn't matter
00:17:04.180 if that's before you have sex or after you have sex or after conception it's it's it's not that
00:17:10.040 we don't think that it's bad to abort a fetus that has no neural tissue yet but we think it's
00:17:16.420 at the same level of evil as convincing somebody not to get ivf that was going to do ivf because
00:17:24.720 you have prevented a child that was going to exist from existing and all child on that spectrum
00:17:29.760 whenever somebody was like i could have made the child that's why we took that position but
00:17:34.200 then there's there's yeah the sort of additional like layer on top of that for me of like okay
00:17:39.020 well when are you when are you sort of committing murder and causing like suffering to a thing and
00:17:45.400 you know yeah after week 12 you're causing suffering to a thing like
00:17:49.200 so like that that just adds this extra like visceral but now now I'm really questioning
00:17:55.820 this and I want to give you some some quotes from Romy's experience going through this because I
00:18:01.240 think she this is what this is what radicalized me and I think it shows some lies that are told
00:18:07.000 to progressives especially but I think just to mainstream mainstream participants in the urban
00:18:13.160 monoculture more broadly about about basically early term abortions i had no idea i am kind of
00:18:24.360 horrified and i i it shows how we've basically been lied to and that there is a ton of damage
00:18:31.120 that no one talks about and i feel like maybe people feel afraid to talk about so i'll just
00:18:37.320 go ahead and read. No, let's go into it. Yeah. You can also, and I, because it's amazing writing,
00:18:42.260 Romy's very articulate, incredibly intelligent, like beautiful, wonderful person in general.
00:18:47.220 So I recommend you read the full thing. It's titled, it's her only sub-stack article too,
00:18:51.200 What Nobody Told Me About Abortion, and it describes her harrowing experience. So basically
00:18:56.140 she had sex with her boyfriend and got pregnant. She wrote, on the sort of afternoon of full ripe 0.78
00:19:02.860 summer fruit my new boyfriend and i still flush with sweat and limerence after some midday sex
00:19:09.160 started an ovulation test strip and realized we'd misread an earlier test uh-oh i said lightly amused
00:19:15.620 at a thousand rom-com moments flashed through my mind cue the clueless horror movie protagonist
00:19:21.840 who fails to notice the axe murderer behind the bedroom door mistaken about the genre of the story
00:19:27.840 unfolding we listened to music and i swiveled back and forth in an office chair while narrating
00:19:33.240 chat gpt's damning answers to my questions about fertile windows and test strip blind darkness
00:19:38.620 my boyfriend kissed me on the cheek each time he walked past we riffed about games we could play
00:19:44.600 at our abortion party our decision calculus was numerical emotions our abortion party this and
00:19:51.760 this goes to show like she's showing how radically her mind shifted like the flippant jokiness that
00:19:57.820 no that like the urban monoculture san francisco bay area people are raised with around the idea
00:20:03.100 of abortions and why people are so like pro-abortion it's like really like it goes back
00:20:08.300 to that bojack horseman aquafina like get that fetus kill that fetus america get your uteruses 0.99
00:20:13.600 turp i'm a baby killer baby killing makes me horny get that fetus kill that fetus 1.00
00:20:18.860 As the concept of women having choices gone too far. 1.00
00:20:41.620 like this like euphoric cultural like this is a sacred cow kind of attitude around abortion
00:20:49.800 and it's euphoric this idea that i have this choice and like we're going to exercise this
00:20:54.040 choice and it's going to be funny and cool trans woman to have a successful uterus transplant
00:21:00.020 ovaries and eggs included and i want to be the first trans woman to have an abortion
00:21:08.460 Mr. Garrison. Mrs. Garrison. You can't have an abortion. Don't you tell me what I can and can't 0.98
00:21:15.600 do with my body. A woman has a right to choose. You can't get pregnant. But I missed my period. 1.00
00:21:22.160 You can't have periods either. You mean I'll never know what it feels like to have a baby
00:21:27.960 growing inside me and then scramble its brains and vacuum it out. This would mean I'm not really
00:21:32.640 a woman it's i'm just a i'm just a guy with a mutilated penis basically yes oh boy do i feel 0.99
00:21:41.060 like a jackass i'll continue reading our decision calculus was numerical emotions and afterthought 0.98
00:21:46.560 there's a one in four chance of conception each month so deciding not to take plan b would result 0.97
00:21:51.800 in a 25 risk of needing an abortion plan b costs 50 and an abortion costs 500 but only with a 25
00:22:00.620 percent chance of conception, the expected value of that option is $125. Plan B and early stage
00:22:08.120 abortion seemed physically pretty similar, nothing to consider there. If you get pregnant, we'd both 0.93
00:22:14.080 know we're fertile, my boyfriend pointed out. True, why would anyone pay for fertility testing
00:22:19.260 with such thrilling alternative available, I quipped back. In the end, my sense that failing
00:22:26.660 to take plan b seemed plainly stupid led us to swing by cbs on our way to an under the sea themed
00:22:33.340 party in san francisco i was wearing a black and gold ball gown he a shimmery jacket that made him 0.69
00:22:39.580 look like an undiscovered mayor culture dredged up from the fluorescently lit family planning aisle
00:22:45.980 later at the party i recounted our ill-fated afternoon with punchlines as i pried open the
00:22:52.880 clamshell package and unceremoniously swallowed the plan b in my friend's cozy kitchen so she
00:22:59.700 you know is very like casual about the sex about the you know i'll just take plan b right you know
00:23:06.780 this is a very like expected experience for someone in the like this culture then she describes how
00:23:12.620 it goes south so basically she got a positive pregnancy test nine days later and she just like
00:23:18.180 from the beginning it was like obvious she would not be having a baby like there was no question
00:23:22.060 that like, well, obviously, like we're not, we're not even going to consider carrying this.
00:23:27.060 She, she wrote, ignoring the mounting hum of my instinctual self, I walked across Berkeley on a
00:23:32.120 chilly August evening to pick up abortion pills from the sort of friend who people think of when
00:23:37.480 they say they know a guy. She continued a little bit later. I'm skipping through the article. You
00:23:41.940 really should read the whole thing. Nobody talks about the hell that is misoprostol, the abortion 0.78
00:23:46.920 pill. I suspect that in its politicization, no one wants to mention that the drug in question
00:23:52.660 is a sledgehammer. On its quest to destroy the fetus, it obliterates the mother as well.
00:23:58.200 On Thursday afternoon, I unceremoniously took the first of three doses. Four little white pills
00:24:03.020 shoved into my vagina as far up as I could wedge them. Tiny bombs placed quietly beside the cradle 0.99
00:24:08.120 where my unsuspecting baby slept. I waited, fever rising, for the bleeding that should have started
00:24:14.020 after an hour or two. The second dose came and went. By dose three, I could barely move.
00:24:20.500 I took the stairs one at a time, weakly gripping the railing, my joints inking with each step,
00:24:25.700 the inside of my mouth painfully raw. Curled in bed, I whispered for more and more blankets,
00:24:31.680 shivering and only dimly aware of my boyfriend there beside me, searching the internet for
00:24:36.640 answers about my racing heart and shallow, rapid breathing. In the morning, I felt drained,
00:24:41.680 but the fever and pain were gone. The large maxi pad, which the internet warned I may soak as often
00:24:47.860 as once per hour was entirely dry. So she goes on to observe that quote, misoprostol as an abortion
00:24:54.940 protocol is 85% effective as a 24 hour time point neared. And I felt not even the slightest
00:25:01.280 cramping. It became clear that I was among the unlucky 15% of women for whom a second attempt
00:25:06.900 would be necessary and she also writes in in taking the first dose of pills i'd started down
00:25:11.700 an inescapable path and had no choice but to march to its end as a friend would later say
00:25:16.960 the correct number of abortions is either zero or as many as it takes and this is malcolm for me like
00:25:23.100 reading about this is so scary because one of my i've never told you this but one of my recurring
00:25:27.440 like nightmares that I've had since childhood is like finding some innocent
00:25:36.020 injured animal that's in pain and then attempting to kill it to put it out of its pain and failing
00:25:43.740 every time and making it worse every time like this is one of my like deepest set fears like
00:25:49.760 funny I have such different deep set fears than you yeah I don't know if I ever told you this
00:25:54.540 one of my recurring nightmares up until i met you i haven't had this dream since i met you
00:25:58.500 but it used to be a big recurring nightmare for me was that i had accidentally killed someone and
00:26:03.500 i needed to figure out what to do next and i was just like we gotta hide the body we gotta like
00:26:08.800 yeah we have different nightmares but like this is my worst nightmare and i was like if i had
00:26:16.460 gone through this and i felt like i had only partially killed this fledgling life is it for
00:26:22.880 you and you're like oh my god this is my baby what was i doing why did i treat this so flippantly
00:26:27.620 yeah you you're yeah just just wait so she she ultimately had to do four rounds she went to
00:26:34.480 planned parenthood in san francisco she wrote desperation weld inside me i wanted to grip her
00:26:39.460 oh so basically also a protester confronted her and was like you know don't kill your baby
00:26:44.340 about that she wrote desperation weld inside of me i wanted to grip her bony shoulders to look her in 0.66
00:26:49.440 the eye and ask her what she would have me do with this broken beautiful thing inside me that
00:26:55.000 had survived six doses of poison and now failed to die this is my worst nightmare you can tell
00:27:01.000 i'm like so scared more abortion pills more waiting more shivering in a ball of feverish
00:27:06.000 torment still no blood then she continued because she had to ultimately get a dnc my memories of
00:27:12.140 the surgical dnc procedure four days later come to mean fragments that feel sharp in my chest
00:27:17.380 I remember a cold wand pushed inside me searching for a smudge of evidence of the baby, and
00:27:22.900 then a room with a chair and an iPad video that soothingly warned of hysterectomy risk.
00:27:28.100 I didn't also, I didn't know that.
00:27:29.540 Finally, a room that smelled of chemicals where I sat on a crisp paper and stared at
00:27:33.920 a tray strewn with ominous medical instruments' panic.
00:27:36.920 Through this, I did not move.
00:27:38.540 Tears gathered in my eyes at the inevitability of the situation, my overwhelming helplessness.
00:27:43.920 i presented my arm to the pretty young nurse who administer the fentanyl and sedatives i laid down
00:27:49.820 and spread my legs for the kind practitioner to vacuum out my stubborn baby what's a mother to 1.00
00:27:54.740 do in a moment like this but carry her child gently to the executioner's arms and then she 1.00
00:28:00.000 she asked if she could you know like take the thing you know the baby that they removed and
00:28:04.120 like bury it in her backyard or something they're like no we're forced by california law to take
00:28:08.260 them all to funeral homes i don't know what they do with them there that's i don't get that but
00:28:12.700 anyway she met after this process happened other people who like when she mentioned it to them
00:28:18.700 were like oh yeah I have also had a traumatic experience with this and I think this is one
00:28:24.020 of those other things where because in progressive circles you're supposed to be euphoric about it
00:28:29.400 it's yeah like you can't it's yeah it's it's verboten to say that you had a bad experience
00:28:34.420 with misoprostol you can't say it but then she said she wrote I recently had coffee with a friend
00:28:40.840 who became very still when I mentioned my abortion, tears sprang to her eyes as she told me
00:28:46.920 that once she'd had an abortion too, and although it was seven years ago, and although she never
00:28:52.360 wanted the baby, never even wanted to be a mother, it still makes her cry every time she remembers
00:28:58.080 it. She'd taken the abortion pills and two days later in a grungy dive bar bathroom with music
00:29:04.440 thrumming through the door she'd found her clot of a baby in her bloody pad this is i'm sorry like
00:29:11.880 i guess trigger warning a while ago stop trigger warning a while ago no but this is how no no no
00:29:17.480 no no no wait where the man was the gangbang story i know traumatized but i cry as i talk 1.00
00:29:23.060 about abortions what on earth but anyway this radicalized woman crying talking about abortions 0.99
00:29:29.600 to other to try to get women to like i'm not trying to do this this really radicalized me
00:29:34.820 and her writing is really good anyway so this woman just told her you know she found the bloody
00:29:40.340 clot in this dive bar in her pad she says i knew i had to eat it she told me and then as though
00:29:47.180 suddenly realizing that this might sound absurd she tried to explain i mean i couldn't just leave
00:29:52.180 it in that dirty bathroom it was my baby what was i going to do throw it in the trash i stopped her
00:29:57.120 shaking my head no no it makes perfect sense to me it really does of course you had to eat it it
00:30:02.000 was your baby the maternal logic of this was unassailable anyone who's been a mother for any
00:30:07.420 stretch of time would not question such a primordial urge the animal mother knows what
00:30:12.380 to do and your judgments are not what carried evolution billions of oh and your judgments are
00:30:17.440 not what carried evolution billions of years to this moment so what did you do i asked her i ate
00:30:23.200 it she said wide-eyed and like malcolm this sounds so insane but i completely understand what they're
00:30:30.220 talking and it makes me think of like the hamsters that go crazy and eat their babies there's
00:30:34.880 something that yeah it's really like mentally unstable about pregnancy and and i didn't realize 0.95
00:30:41.060 that messing with it in this way like this early in pregnancies could mess women up so much because
00:30:46.980 it gets worse if you can believe it oh my god did we lure them in with hey guys i'm so hey guys
00:30:54.880 gangbang ha ha ha so funny so after this she she basically had a psychotic episode she she wrote
00:31:01.960 and again i'm skipping around read the whole thing i was not permitted to eat my baby nor bring it
00:31:06.460 home in a little vial to bury it or put it on the mantle or inspect it under a microscope for a tail
00:31:11.940 perhaps if i'd been the cataclysmic crash of hormones that awaited me would have taken a
00:31:17.180 gentler shape instead in the days that followed i began to experience borderline psychotic episodes
00:31:23.740 these hours long periods would begin with a vague sense of unease and build
00:31:28.400 and build until the world around me became twisted and surreal like a haunted house
00:31:34.760 sometimes anger at my boyfriend went inexplicably slow swell inside me sharp and alienating
00:31:40.300 distancing me from the one person who might understand my pain. Often I was consumed with
00:31:45.160 an urgent need to go find my missing baby. My thoughts would enter obsessive frenzied spirals
00:31:52.300 about the desire running through the sequence of events that had led to my baby's departure from
00:31:56.940 my womb, where it clearly belonged. My memories of the DNC churned with an ominous bent. The
00:32:02.860 kindness of the nurses suddenly felt coercive, like they had conspired to place me under a spell
00:32:07.900 so that they could use the strange and powerful devices
00:32:10.320 to remove a precious integral part of me.
00:32:13.240 And then so she goes to Burning Man,
00:32:15.920 which happens like on late Memorial Day weekend
00:32:18.820 in like the beginning of September
00:32:20.640 because this is all end of summer.
00:32:22.340 And she basically tried to deal with this
00:32:25.540 by sort of like through the Bay Area equivalent
00:32:28.960 of like a grieving ceremony.
00:32:31.160 At Burning Man, there's like the big man that they burn,
00:32:33.480 but there's also this place called the temple
00:32:35.140 where you can like, and I've been to Burning Man once.
00:32:37.640 I remember going to it it's this like beautiful structure but it's where you kind of like
00:32:41.200 you will have I'm vaguely remembering this like traumatic things like you'll burn the things that
00:32:47.060 that bother you and so she she tries to staple the one thing she had left of this baby which
00:32:52.660 was her positive pregnancy test strip to the temple and then it you know like having it burn
00:32:57.100 like and hopefully that like will get rid of her trauma one one thing she wrote also that stood out
00:33:01.520 to me she wrote before I was a mother I was a woman who belonged entirely to herself I finally
00:33:06.180 understood then that my baby was gone and that I was once again alone oh my gosh what sorry
00:33:12.580 can you see that this stuff messes women up your babies is people who have babies the moment you
00:33:19.740 get radicalized by babies you're just like I need maximum number of babies no see I didn't know that
00:33:25.900 you could get radicalized before the baby came out because I didn't I didn't know but something 1.00
00:33:31.340 really messes with women and this this article shows that it turns out that while full-blown
00:33:36.540 postpartum it's like here i'm reading from her writing again it turns out that while full-blown
00:33:40.880 postpartum psychosis is rare subclinical psychotic thoughts are common affecting 15 to 30 percent of
00:33:48.060 women who give birth and less commonly following abortion and miscarriage critically people
00:33:53.560 experiencing these thoughts retain insight into the fact that their thoughts are distorted though
00:33:58.540 such knowledge does not immunize them to suffering it's strange to me that given the prevalence of
00:34:04.400 postpartum depression and abortion i haven't heard anyone talk openly about either my concept of
00:34:10.080 abortion was shaped instead through divisive political narratives which leave me feeling
00:34:14.860 trapped between absolutes and how i'm allowed to talk about it forced to hedge every statement
00:34:20.060 i mean she still supports the the right to choose and there's all these complications but she's
00:34:24.460 trying to introduce nuance to the conversation and like even to the to the day that she wrote
00:34:29.460 this article she still is dealing with the grief of this abortion she wrote oh sister she wrote
00:34:36.280 this is a good article to and i'm going to do this for our kids yeah i think around the time
00:34:42.080 they go through puberty i think this article they need to read this of sex education and having to
00:34:46.380 write an essay on this 100 percent and i would introduce this i think at around the age of let's
00:34:52.800 say 14 no when you have your period that's when you should be reading it i'll just leave with what
00:34:59.420 a great thing just to make part and i and i actually i like this so much i'm gonna say like
00:35:04.320 if you're a religious person or whatever like that and you have like a religious school or
00:35:08.860 something like that can we advocate for making this a major part of the just yeah because again 0.76
00:35:15.720 it's not it's not all the no no catholic or protestant or jew has ever convinced me
00:35:21.560 despite like presenting many like cohesive arguments uh like this this made me cry you 0.69
00:35:29.400 saw i can't help but cry and this isn't my first time reading it you know this isn't like the
00:35:34.160 initial shock this is just me like and it probably something to do with the fact that like
00:35:40.720 i have been radicalized by pregnancy as well but like just the impact this has had on her
00:35:47.360 she writes my grief has settled in to a shape small enough to carry around the world it goes
00:35:53.120 with me to dinner and seems to like it when we take evening walks around the neighborhood sometimes
00:35:58.580 when i know it won't cause too much trouble i take it out and marvel at it it's heavier than
00:36:03.340 it looks the weight of it on my chest enough to knock the breath out of me if i'm not prepared
00:36:08.180 many nights my grief unfurls and wraps with its long tendrils around me i wake sweating and tangled
00:36:14.480 in my blankets planets still bright in the sky soon enough it will learn to sleep through the
00:36:19.700 night like she's still suffering from it and i think she oh okay okay are you thirsty sorry one
00:36:30.540 moment here your bottle has disappeared she i think her story also adds weight to the techno
00:36:40.520 puritan sense that damage lies in like action-based inflection points unless it like some definition
00:36:47.760 of where life begins or where suffering begins and this is where i i'm also like moderating my
00:36:53.800 views of like where the sin lies and where the damage is done she wrote i never quite understood
00:36:58.740 regret should the butterfly regret a flap of its wings upon learning of the resulting tornado still
00:37:05.260 as the shadow of loss looms over my days i've started to think i probably would have been
00:37:10.940 happier in this alternate lifeline life timeline in which my grief would be balanced by purpose
00:37:17.260 whether this will feel true five years from now is harder to say perhaps one should wait to see
00:37:22.120 what is built from the tornado's wreckage before declaring regret i find myself trying to calculate
00:37:28.360 this likelihood, but quickly stop. I know now that some arithmetic belongs to older gods and reason.
00:37:36.260 She's a really good writer. She has a kid now, right? When did she give birth? I don't know the
00:37:41.260 exact date, but yeah, she has a kid. She has a kid now. She's a kid now. She's going to get married. 0.68
00:37:44.420 She's monogamous. This is a happy ending. Everything's okay. You're like, oh my God. 0.78
00:37:49.460 I know, man. But it's important to remember that sex can lead to kids. Gang bangs can lead to kids,
00:37:56.260 right like everything that she's participating in around something like this can lead to a woman 1.00
00:38:00.520 getting pregnant and then having to well either carry the kid to term or make a horrifying choice
00:38:07.480 that could lead to this and progressives aren't really told and i wasn't really told when i was 0.51
00:38:14.280 a kid because i'm gonna be honest christians are terrible at terrifying kids out of abortions 0.87
00:38:21.380 they're just like you're murdering a human and i'm like it doesn't have neurons like that is so 0.91
00:38:27.280 uncompelling yeah i think that that's a really a big thing for me too is yeah like they keep being
00:38:32.160 like it's a human it's a human it's a human and i'm like well not like actually no like it's it
00:38:37.680 doesn't have a brain yet you know like it's it's like like yeah i am my thoughts right like
00:38:45.300 fundamentally i'm not really my body i could lose any part of my body and i'm still 100% me
00:38:49.740 if I lost a part of my brain I would be fractally me I wouldn't be fully me anymore if my brain
00:38:55.800 significantly changed I would be a different version of myself like it is our neurons at
00:39:01.620 least this is to me a regular person the reason why I'm laying this out is when you go to your
00:39:06.800 kids many of your kids are going to think this way and you go to your kids and you just say
00:39:11.000 abortion is bad and again even the lines they use don't really work for them I knew you before you
00:39:18.180 were in your mother's womb well that that doesn't imply that life begins immediately at conception
00:39:22.240 that actually implies something quite different that either souls exist in heaven before insolvent
00:39:27.640 or god can see into the future both of which do not imply that life begins at conception right you
00:39:33.560 know so they would they would imply other things right and then then the question becomes when
00:39:38.200 does insolvent happen and everything like that what this has radicalized me on is it's there
00:39:44.240 are still instances in which and keep in mind this is the vast minority of abortion when people
00:39:50.560 are like abortion because of rape or something like that is less than one percent of abortion
00:39:55.180 cases that is not what people are fighting for but i think it works to just take that off the
00:40:00.620 table just say okay let's not say okay in the case of rape or a non-viable or non-viable i think so
00:40:08.960 so we have to and and like things need to be parsed out right like there's there's yeah some
00:40:15.080 of these really extreme cases there's also like cases in which what we're really discussing is
00:40:20.680 euthanasia of a terminally ill human it doesn't matter like and this is where i'm like i'm i'm
00:40:26.360 standing out oh no simone loves euthanasia and like i know a lot of you guys really hate the
00:40:30.260 idea of euthanasia but i truly loving human life human flourishing and especially innocent babies
00:40:36.980 personally would want the right to spare one of my children intense suffering and pain and a short
00:40:45.500 life you know if like you know hours of intense suffering and then death after carrying a
00:40:50.620 pregnancy to term like i would rather euthanize that baby of ours like i would say this has
00:40:58.800 radicalized me on general use yeah no no yeah no like before i was like whatever it's a pill like
00:41:06.160 take the pill it's that's not no man like i had no i had no idea and people had told us they're
00:41:12.220 like oh well you know meatsoprostone is actually like a really intense medication and i'm like
00:41:16.380 i don't like yeah but like i know people who are like oh i took antibiotics my tummy hurts like
00:41:21.460 people like overreact this is what i think it's not just on this is radicalizing against recreational
00:41:27.480 sex because this is what recreational sex leads to right i i think like i said we think that
00:41:33.480 non-procreative sex is a sin and this is why like well many reasons but this is another reason why
00:41:38.900 yeah note here i'm not talking about anything that couldn't get you pregnant for example 0.98
00:41:45.580 oral sex or kinky sex where it's just like leaning into the kink and i think for that reason i'm more 0.99
00:41:55.360 pro that stuff than i was historically and more anti-general vanilla more boring sex i see that 0.99
00:42:03.080 is dramatically more immoral than the kinkiest of kinky stuff because the kinkiest of kinky stuff 0.94
00:42:09.180 is just to get you off whereas vanilla sex could accidentally get somebody pregnant and i'd even 0.95
00:42:14.140 lay this down to the religious thing from our perspective the techno puritan perspective for 0.96
00:42:18.200 those who actually follow our religion lean in to the kinky stuff lean in to the erotic stuff 0.67
00:42:25.100 lean out of the generic boring sex stuff because that's the stuff that can lead to you accidentally 0.96
00:42:31.800 having to being in a position where it might make sense for somebody to think about murdering a
00:42:37.960 human being it is really first recreational sex doesn't even feel that good it's like this is one
00:42:43.960 of the biggest myths i want to blow out of the table look this is apparently my failure it can 0.82
00:42:48.140 feel very good i guess i'm not doing my job i have had sex with and again like my backstory is i used 0.95
00:42:55.080 to sleep around all the time i've had sex with well over 100 women probably around 160 if i like
00:43:01.020 try to get it up i think it i mean i remember i stopped counting and i think it was like 120 was
00:43:09.940 the last time i did a full count and i slept with quite a few people after that so it must be quite
00:43:14.920 a bit more than that did any of them ever get pregnant if they did they never told but like
00:43:20.120 i didn't understand the i just thought sex is sex so again this is not a simone is bad thing it's
00:43:26.080 that when you actually do it enough or you go around and sleep around enough this isn't a simone
00:43:30.340 when i mentioned this on the leaflet stream everyone was like in the comments they were like
00:43:34.020 yeah he's right it's just like not differentially that much better than masturbation you know it's
00:43:41.360 it's it's fine it's it's maybe 250 better than masturbation but like when you consider
00:43:49.720 analysis though and that's what's so crazy is like there's that one section of her her post
00:43:54.940 where they're like, well, you know, if we do like a weighted cost of plan B versus like
00:43:59.500 misoprostone or like an abortion, like $200 versus $50, but weighted for the odds, like
00:44:04.720 they're doing most of the calculation. They're just not taking it the rest of the way there
00:44:08.760 of like, here's the downside cost of having recreational sex versus, you know, like the
00:44:14.640 benefit of it. Contrast that to the downside cost of just masturbating. Yeah. Yeah. This is why I'm 0.99
00:44:21.700 like, this is why I'm so against people who push against masturbation. If a masturbation prevents 0.90
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00:45:58.780 us to be like wow you guys are always talking about this rfab thing so i finally decided to
00:46:02.540 try it and then they were like oh and i ended up spending all day on it it was a lot of fun
00:46:07.960 and they then said it was too easy like the games the game worlds always sort of worked for them so
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00:46:19.860 engine i don't like it because i like cheating i like the narrative going in the direction i choose
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00:46:30.420 people who don't like to impose that the exotop engine narrative engine is the right one oh and
00:46:35.220 the recipe generator is really cool now the super search feature is really cool there's just so many
00:46:40.100 fun things you can try on the website but the wider point here being is i'm not anti-eroticism
00:46:47.900 we are not anti-eroticism we are not anti-kink we are not anti you know getting your freak on 0.62
00:46:54.700 what we are anti is the type of sex that can lead to an abortion this is evil and i think that by
00:47:03.240 drawing this distinction as a society it is easier to convince kids that we are not telling
00:47:10.280 them this because we are being fuddy-duddies but we are telling them it because it is something 0.87
00:47:15.140 that is true you can be as dirty as you want but sex is sinful or what a guy's one a scenario where 0.99
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00:47:41.880 no but like this hasn't radicalized me into all of the conservative positions but certainly against
00:47:47.280 this and i think with a lot of this stuff it's like she didn't even like the gangbang right like
00:47:54.100 ayla didn't even like well but no no no no i mean ultimately the gangbang i would say has has led to
00:48:00.640 the production of at least one human life um and a marriage and to you know a happy couple like what
00:48:08.740 what what better gift would you want from a gangbang it's it's beautiful you should you
00:48:13.180 should reach out to her to be like in our network she sounds sane and intelligent and like i think
00:48:19.780 our communities could be a good place for her because i bet she's still completely surrounded
00:48:24.580 by progressives right she doesn't feel she lives in berkeley yeah i mean having the thoughts that
00:48:29.500 she has you know be like look there's a lot of a sister like join our community not not not for
00:48:36.220 the sad part but for the euphoric part of building civilization right well you don't know she's not
00:48:43.160 she follows us on x so maybe she already oh yeah maybe she's already in our community i mean i've
00:48:48.760 met other women see our ea to sex worker pipeline where i felt so bad for some of the women in the 0.86
00:48:52.840 ea space that just had their life ruined by this because they're just like i thought that this is 0.97
00:48:56.520 how you were cool as a woman is recreational sex i thought that this was cool when i was in those
00:49:01.580 communities and they didn't realize how much it impacted the types of men who had settled down
00:49:06.720 with it right and i think also seeing her conversion out of this i think shows that
00:49:14.280 for a lot of these people it's our failure the conservative movement's failure to communicate
00:49:21.920 to them it is our failure like a lot of it's the the radicalization of it the one of the reasons
00:49:28.000 why people aren't discussing the the downside risk of taking this pathway is that it is so
00:49:36.140 politicized you don't want to give fodder to like i guess rightist extremists who are going to be
00:49:41.540 exactly that's why you can't have like abortions you know they're going to be intolerable if someone
00:49:46.480 admits this it's a very third rail thing but no i don't think she's conservative like now suddenly
00:49:52.060 because of this the way that the right communicates with people is just wrong it's bad it's bad at
00:50:00.160 communication it's bad at communicating why abortion is bad the the the words and logic
00:50:08.100 that's used fails at step one for a woman like this and it is our responsibility ultimately
00:50:16.260 and people can say like why are we responsible and she's not responsible we are responsible and
00:50:20.640 she's not responsible because i can't control somebody else's actions but i can control my
00:50:25.320 actions so it's always useful for me to take personal responsibility and i can influence a
00:50:29.660 movement's actions i'm not influencing leftists i'm influencing rightists so i'm saying you into
00:50:34.420 larger right-wing space that we influence we do a bad job at communicating why these things are
00:50:42.600 moral negatives and it's good for us to look at a story like this and be like imagine if it doesn't
00:50:51.480 work because there's an x percent chance that it doesn't work how are you going to feel right and
00:50:57.400 then you have to go through with it because you've already ruined that child's life well i mean you
00:51:03.500 might decide that you don't and that's a whole other scenario but you have ruined the child's
00:51:07.380 life and you're gonna have to live with that for the rest of your life that's also horrifying but
00:51:11.480 like the moment you take this like actually think through what this means and more so do that for
00:51:20.580 casual sex more broadly think through the actual benefits you get out of it and the actual negatives
00:51:27.500 that could come downstream of this and are you willing to take on this moral responsibility
00:51:33.020 and it is wild to me that all these quote-unquote effective altruists are doing these orgies and
00:51:37.580 everything like that without fully considering what this could mean for them as individuals
00:51:42.800 and i think we just failed to communicate to them and i'm going to do better to do that in the
00:51:49.140 future i'm trying to think like what's the way to like sum this up yeah i think the way to sum
00:51:54.140 this up is the way that i'll be addressing abortion in the future is what if you take the
00:51:58.920 pill and it doesn't work like talk me through how that feels and then you get a crying baby 0.99
00:52:07.360 like this little bastard look he's not even happy with his little toy he's trying to eat it 0.99
00:52:11.160 monster yeah he's i i need to his his bottle rolled up what's he upset about i think he well 0.99
00:52:21.560 he he woke up hangry and i his bottle fell and i can't access it because i'm stuck to the microphone
00:52:28.320 you did a spectacular job with this episode it's one of my favorites that we've done
00:52:31.560 it's one of my it's all thanks to romey i just like i well i mean you know we really like
00:52:36.760 we appreciate when our minds are changed when we get better information and as much as it hurt for
00:52:42.000 me to like read this terrible experience i really really appreciate getting information that gives
00:52:46.940 me that make that moves me in the slightly less wrong direction in life love you malcolm i love
00:52:54.100 you too i'm so glad that tech survived he was yet really touch and go there and almost died in the
00:52:59.360 hospital too yeah does he still have the big scar from where they put the thing in to help his lungs
00:53:06.660 yeah you could yeah it's i wonder if he's just always gonna have that i mean even if he does
00:53:12.940 you know quite a yeah it makes you look kind of kind of tough like modern medicine save me you
00:53:18.720 know this is a world that we're in let's let's try to save it okay all of you guys let's try to save
00:53:25.260 it let's see our best yeah and this also just makes me reflect a lot more on communication
00:53:33.960 we've got to get better at communication and delivering these messages to the right people
00:53:39.740 at the right stages of their life not just to be a community afterwards so let's think about how we
00:53:44.440 do that better sounds good to me all right I'll go start now all right love you Simone
00:53:50.600 love you too you gotta sneak up on him can you be sneaky you can do it just be sneaky
00:53:59.160 impatient okay maybe I can help you we'll see oh thanks for asking them nicely let's see what I can
00:54:07.620 do to help they do I'm gonna see if I can hang it up because now it's just
00:54:24.480 sitting on the ground so like Tex brought this string that he's been
00:54:28.440 holding on to and we're gonna try to use that to tie it up for them what do you
00:54:33.180 think. Yeah? Yeah, thanks, Indy. You can help me string it up, yeah? Okay. Exactly.