Rethinking Social Contracts For A Post Demographic Collapse World
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Summary
In this episode, Simone and I discuss a recent McKinsey report that says the world as we know it will not work in the new Demographic reality we re entering. What will that mean for us as a society? And what will it mean for our social contracts?
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Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to have a conversation
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that was instigated by something that McKinsey said. This is McKinsey, the consulting firm,
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the mainstream consulting firm, the very normal, normal, normal people consulting firm.
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Yeah, the we don't say anything crazy consulting firm.
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We don't say anything crazy. We're just coming to you as reports. Some people might have been
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going around saying that the sky was falling, and we're now here to confirm that, yes, the sky is
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descending at an accelerating pace, and that it might take place to reposition your assets
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in non-terrestrial positions. You know, that's where we are in terms of, they said, quote,
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on the call, right? And I mentioned this before, the world as we know it won't work in the new
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demographic reality. Okay. That's not fun. That is really sweet. Such professional wording
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for the world's ending as we know it. These prenatalists seem pretty apocalyptic in what
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they're saying. It's like, are they really, like, is this really, like, a thing, you know? And people
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expect them to come back and be like, no, yeah, they're just shock jocks. And they're, like,
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ruffling the papers. The world will not work in the new demographic reality world as we know it.
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And then they started talking about, well, we will need to rethink our social contracts.
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And when Mackenzie says that, that's like, do we really need to go to Revelation right now?
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And the consultant is like, I would be investing in personal, you know, like, gun-based assets.
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Not stocks. I mean, you know, for your children and your wife, you may want to have a few of those
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around the house in case. But anyway, I got to thinking about this. Like, what does this
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reconstruction of social contracts look like? What do our existing social contracts look like?
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Why will they not work anymore? And where do we go as a society? And so for the people who've
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watched the episode where I talk about us, like, the democracy stops working in an era of
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demographic collapse, it's, you know, we should go into this a little bit.
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We're already at, and I didn't know it was this bad. In America, it's 1.8 taxpayers for
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every one dependent right now. Not good. Not sustainable.
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This was in 2023. And if you go to 2017, not 17, 2007, it was two taxpayers for every dependent.
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Like, it's increasing really quickly. And typically systems break down when you get to 1.5
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per dependent. And keep in mind, a lot of the world is like, we're ahead of us on this
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particular roller coaster, right? You know, we're just like, tick, tick, tick. But other people,
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the wah has already started. So, you know, you reach a point where the majority of a population
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is recipients of the state. And they are living off of the minority of the population who is
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essentially living as, I guess, sort of like slaves of the states to pay for the majority. And because
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the majority won't vote away their own rights or their own money or payment, they just don't turn
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off these systems. And then currencies collapses and you get revolutions and everything like that,
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Which basically makes democracies non-functional in the demographic reality in which we were
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entering. And so I was thinking, okay, with that being the case, how do we rethink all of this
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in the most ethical format possible? So first, I wanted to look into what is the social contract
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that we live under in the United States right now? Any thoughts before I go further, Simone?
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I have things to say as part of this conversation. I don't know if there's like additional framing we
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need. But I guess I should ask, are we talking about social contracts between people and the
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Both. Like, what do you have to say before I go further? I'm just going to read out like what
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AI thinks the social contract we're currently living under is, but I want to hear your thoughts
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Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the one thing we can look to, to see how things have already
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played out is what Shinzo Abe did before he was assassinated because he was, I think, the first
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prime minister to really think through how we're going to have to at least begin to shift the social
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contract, especially between people in the government in the face of demographic collapse,
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because it is obvious that Japan is going to see a declining population. And he had to, well,
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he didn't have to, but he chose to decide to try to navigate the fact that they would not be able
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to support social security the way that a country with a growing population would, which is something
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we're going to have to encounter too. Cause I think what, based on current patterns, social
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security is going to go bankrupt by 2036 or 2037. So this matters. And what he did is not actually
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what I expected he would do. I thought he would just cut benefits to Indy. That's because you bit
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metal. Don't chew on that. She's, she's biting the walls of her crib, but then she's an animal
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child, Simone. They are. Yeah. You can get through it with enough time. Her pickle skewers are pretty
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sharp. So instead of just reducing the generosity benefits for older people, he actually shifted to
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an all generation social security system. So he redefined the focus of social security to serve
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not only elderly, but also children and families and the working age population, which I think is
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really interesting that it's shifting the social contract away from something that to your point,
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basically only benefits the very old and, or otherwise very dependent. And instead more supports
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everyone, which I kind of like, cause it motivates the people who are paying for a lot of this.
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To feel not demoralized. And your whole point is that democracy and representative democracy
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becomes undermined when you have one voting class leeching off another less.
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That's actually really clever. That's really clever that he did that. So he basically made
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Well, no, not, not exactly. No. So he's just trying to rebalance the benefits and burdens of the,
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of the system to support families with children and working generations, because he wants to one
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address the root causes of population decline. And two, of course, make dependent care more sustainable.
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So the big things that he did, one is, and this is huge and costly. So part of me is like, whoa,
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he did that because my intuitive response is, well, we just have to cut as much government spending
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across the board as we can. I mean, that wasn't his response. So he rolled out free early childhood
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education and childcare in 2019. So as of 2019, October in Japan, early childhood education and childcare
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became free for children aged three to five, which for anyone who's paid for childcare in the United
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States is going to be like, oh my gosh, especially considering like childcare in the United States,
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dodgy childcare in Japan, God tier, absolutely amazing. So, and also higher education was made free
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for students from low-income families from April, 2020 onwards. So this is making life for young
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children and even young adults a lot easier. He also expanded childcare and family support.
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So there, there was a government increase in child bearing allowances that sort of expanded
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daycare access and invested in family welfare to encourage higher birth rates and support working
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parents. And then this, there also were policies to increase workforce participation because obviously
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the problem isn't just warm bodies. It's the number of warm bodies generating tax revenue. And a big
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problem in Japan is that especially with families that have kids, typically the mother stops working.
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And we saw this with our friends and the mother would become a stay-at-home mother and just stop
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working. Really? Even with like two kids? What's that? Even with only like two kids? Oh, even with one
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kid. Yeah. Yeah. Mothers were, and also like this, this happened a lot of corporations too. It's just
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kind of expected that like, oh, you're a mother now. So you're going to stop working here. So the
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government shifted policies to encourage greater participation of women and, and the elderly,
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which is important in the workforce. And the number of women actually increased significantly
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after the measures were introduced to allow and incentivize people to work also to work up to age
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70 and beyond. So I love this. Cause they're also like guys retirement. We're not doing it anymore.
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We're not, we're super not doing it. I actually love this. No, retirement is stupid. Like I like
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the idea. I, I might, I might actually approach it differently. Like I'm not super pro UBI. You
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can watch out, you know, like Tim Altman live UBI video, but like, like UBI seems to make people's
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lives literally worse. Like it would be funny. Like a lot of people don't realize this.
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Your like motivation, like when people were given a thousand dollars a month for three years,
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they actually ended up with significantly less money than the people who were given nothing
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and they didn't spend more time with their kids and they didn't train themselves and they didn't,
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you know, anything like that. So like UBI, not the best, uh, but it does seem better than just
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letting everyone die or keeping the existing social security system intact. And so I think if you like
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dramatically cut existing social security said, actually you guys are expected to work,
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switched it to UBI. So everyone is like, well, at least if things go bad for me,
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the system is paying out right. That I can see working. Although like if I was going to do it
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in my ideal world, like, I don't know if this would be politically palatable, but I would switch
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these out to like UBI towns. If, if, if you wanted to take that route, but you're like living in
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government facilities and stuff like that, it's basically workhouses where there is some cost to
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doing this. Like, I don't think it should be an easy option for people now, but otherwise really
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smart of, of Shinto Abe, right? If I'm going to go to the, I think it's really important to point out
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that old people have lower rates of dementia and often are more physically healthy, typically are
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more physically healthy if they are physically and mentally active and having a job really helps with
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that. It is a better for an elderly person to be engaged. Now that doesn't have to be being a
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greeter at Walmart, I think other really great options for elderly people are say, taking care
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of grandkids, which is what elderly people have done for, I mean, arguably millions of years while
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their children and grandchildren worked out in a field or ran the brewery or the butcher shop or
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something like that, right? Managed livestock. So I, when, when I see things like, oh, well, let's raise
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the age of retirement or let's allow people to work at older ages. I think good. They will live more
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meaningful, engaged, community filled, socialized, vibrant lives. And that is a good thing. So I don't
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know. I, I, I think that this is not just about sacrificing. I think that really Shinzo Abe was going
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for maximum human flourishing, helping children, helping families and sort of getting the entire
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society collectively to join in on this. Like old people get back to work, women enter the workforce,
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kids, we're going to help you out, families, we're going to help you out. And I, I think that's super cool.
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I feel like, like there's a reason why Shinzo Abe has become sort of the spiritual leader of the new right.
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And if you want to learn more about him, you can go to our video on him because we have a deep dive into Shinzo Abe and his life.
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But like, if you look at man's world, you know, when we were doing the aesthetics of the new right,
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it was sort of like a Trinity, like vintage anime girl, Trump and Shinzo Abe. Yeah.
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If you, if you look at the video that we did of like the anime Trump presidency, where Shinzo Abe saves
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him from being assassinated. And he's sort of treated as like this spiritual guide to the movement because
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he represented like, bro, like this isn't about like economic liberalism or economic conservatism.
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It's about trying to create something that works and that, that maximizes human flourishing.
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And we need to just ditch these old concepts. There are people who are anti-human, anti-life,
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and there are people who are pro-human and pro-life. And, and some of these pro-human pro-life people
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work in union jobs and some of them work in manufacturing and, and, and many of them are
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not in this oligarchical class. Right. You know, and, and, and yeah, it's okay for Trump to do the
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tariffs and attempt to help them. You know, it was okay for like this idea of like maximize flourishing.
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And I think that, that Shinzo Abe was attempting that. Well, and also not even maximized flourishing,
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but austerity in ways that are meaningful. So the, the ways that he increased revenue and
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decreased spending, despite adding some generous benefits, like, you know, childcare was in addition
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to having people encouraging and incentivizing women to work and old people to work later into their
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lives. He also added, we're sorry, raised the consumption tax in Japan by 10%, which I think
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is appropriate. It's like saying, Hey, focus less on consumerism, focus more on life, on family,
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on work. And I like that too. I, I, I think that that's a great place to put emphasis.
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Yeah. So I, wait, he raised the consumption tax as you get older by 10. No, no, no. He just raised
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Japan's consumption task tax by 10%. It's, it's like a sales tax, like a value added tax.
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And that's, so most of that revenue was allocated to social security reforms benefiting like that. So
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that, that addition was primarily to help to pay for all the new like childcare benefits that were now
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released. So to, to make the elder care part of, of their, their pension system more sustainable,
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they sort of shifted around incentives. Like one, they raised the retirement age to,
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they incentivize people to retire later, even beyond that, because then they would probably just,
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just, I don't know, die before using other benefits. Um, and then three, they raised the
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consumption tax to make life easier for families in hopes that those families would have more
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children, which I think is the, it's perfect. Like it's, it's really smart and it's, it's interesting
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to me. Then also shout out to Brian Chow of the, from the new world podcast and many other amazing
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initiatives and startups and nonprofits and AI alignment work to, who actually pointed me in this
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direction because as much as like Shinzo Abe has just been this meme and seen as being close to
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Trump, no one else I know has really talked about the actual social security and social safety net
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reforms that he implemented before being assassinated that have really put Japan on much stronger footing
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than it was before he made any impact. Like he actually changed the trajectory of the country
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significantly. And he did their fertility right now. It's like the highest in Asia, but like a huge
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margin. And to a great extent that is because of these reforms, because there's universal universal,
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sorry, universal, universal childcare. So I I'm dying to go to Japan. I'm dying. Like it is,
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it is becoming a very pronatalist country and I'm, I'm dying to experience it. You know,
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we've talked about it to reverse fertility collapse. I don't know. I think it's possible. And
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it gives me a lot of my, my, my main area of hope in the world of demographic collapse right now is
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Japan for sure. I mean, we've talked about this in our episodes that like a lot of Japanese media
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is very pronatalist. You know, um, we talk about, you know, Gurren Lagann basically being like
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pronatalism the anime. Where are you drawing all of this power from? We evolve beyond the person we were
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a minute before little by little, we advance a bit further with each turn. That's how a drill works.
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Mark my words. This drill will open a hole in the universe. And that hole will be a path for those
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behind us. The dreams of those who have fallen, the hopes of those who will follow those two sets
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of dreams weave together into a double helix drilling a path towards tomorrow. And then another one by the
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same team, which was Frank's double X being incredibly pronatalist, a dark darling and Frank's
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and grandma and grandpa turned young again, being very pronatalist. So sweet. So sweet. That's a good episode.
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見てみる?そうだね。うん。なあ、ばあさま、休憩するか。だなあ、くらいいい天気だの。だなあ、さすがわしらの孫。成績もうなぎにしてるそうでなあ、くらいいい天気だの。だなあ、さすがわしらの孫。成績もうなぎにしてるそうでなあ。
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這 Fund Як polar negative紛、あなたはつまり signingドも止まりながら、
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we can analyze why it may not work like i want to understand what do they mean by this yeah
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the social contract sorry is this as described by mckinsey no it's described by claude like
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mckinsey who said we need to rethink social contracts without defining what that yes
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the social contract in the united states refers to the implicit agreement between citizens and
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the government regarding rights responsibilities and social organization while there isn't a
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single farmer document called the social contract it's embodied in various aspects of american
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identity at its core u.s social contract includes one constitutional foundation the u.s constitution
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bill of rights outlaw fundamental rights and limitations on government power citizens agree
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to follow laws while the governments protect their rights to life liberty and property
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number two that one obviously isn't like an issue democratic participation citizens have the right
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to vote participate in government and peacefully assemble in protest now this is one that i
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pointed out i don't think is sustainable in the new demographic reality that we're heading into
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you know once we have a position where the majority of the population might feel that they have a right
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to be cared for by the government you know they never vote themselves less money and then they they
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end up disappearing eventually because all the people with money leave you know because ai concentrates
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wealth and that allows the few productive people to just be like i'm out man like honestly no if
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you're personally right are supporting like 20 like non-working people especially non-working people
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who are in a separate political party that claims to hate you yeah you don't identify with or yeah
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you're gonna be like yeah and i mean just look at how gen z and millennials and gen x view boomers
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okay there's not gonna there's not a lot of magnanimous giving going on the boomers and we know the
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boomers are gonna be the ones who do this and they're like well no they're they're the they're
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the ones that are draining the cup for us they're the last ones out it's very annoying actually well
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at least they die before any of the cool stuff happens i'm so glad and the boomers are the last
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generation to die thank god they were not very good stewards of our world i know they really you know
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we've had the theory that i talked with simone about where it's like every generation post boomers
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has become more mature if you look at like gen alpha today you see them being more like actually
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promiscuity is bad like actually you know the hating the other gender is bad like actually like
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we need to i saw a poll recently that showed the generation like right below the voting generation
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right now i think it was like 18 to like 20 it might have been younger it might have been like 16 to 18
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okay with majority republican finally and not democrat like nothing like this has happened
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before no yeah but it's it's it's what like this is a generation that in their sensibilities
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is very traditionalist and not just traditionalist but conservative and in our generation you know i think
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we as a generation have been significantly more traditionalists who are outside the urban monoculture
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that's just like went crazy traditionalists in the generation before us um and and and i don't
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mean traditionalist and sort of like blind traditionalism but traditionalist and like the
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way a mature person is like hey you know maybe you shouldn't have skittles for breakfast every morning
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maybe there's a reason for the crazy things that people is that is that what maha is like maybe
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skittles for breakfast is not the best idea you could say that malcolm yes
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what's going on maybe it's all this stuff that you both eat oh will you get off that no honestly
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it's true okay moss what did you have for breakfast this morning smarty cereal oh my god i didn't even
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know smarties made a cereal they don't it's just smarties in a bowl with milk i just want our kids
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to have fruit loops okay not fruit loops but like fruit roll-ups and like juice and squeezes
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don't exist anymore did you guys know this this is sad at least they're still twinkies i can get
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them twinkies right simone like why can't i just give them fun foods instead of just your your
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your poison of of vegetables and fruits what they're gonna die if they eat that
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but anyway i don't don't even give me start i we can't this this beautiful face here this body
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is made up of pop tarts and fruit roll-ups simone that is that is what could you have been were you
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given slightly better resources as a child the potential maybe the behavioral problems you
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wouldn't have i i don't know i just i had i had adults with behavioral problems i didn't have
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they ate italian food and this is why italy is falling apart empty carbs true actually i guess
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you're right you know i don't know what to tell you malcolm we're going to what claude says our
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current social contract is so we have a baseline taxation like we need to reinvent i was talking
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about democratic participation i'm like demo democracy as we understand it i do not think
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will continue to work you know i i think that we're seeing sort of a and and this is what's really
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interesting i think we're seeing a post-democratic alliance beginning to form in opposition to so i think
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there's sort of like three big power groups okay i think there's the never democracy group and i
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think people assume that the post-democracy group is going to become like the never democracy group
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this is like your north korea your you know like that that sort of a thing right like russia i mean
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it had like a democracy for a period but it didn't like you really transition to a post-democracy
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these are demographically the equivalent to the countries that are high fertility because they didn't
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get their economy figured out and they're just like desperately poor and that's why they're high
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high fertility and then there's going to be other countries like israel that like went through the
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demographic dip like they got all of the wealth and then they found a way out of it and i think the u.s
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will eventually get to that position as well that they find a way to motivate fertility in spite of
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wealth and prosperity and so i think that in the same way that you have this group that's like we
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found a way to motivate fertility in spite of wealth and prosperity you're going to have this group
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that leaves democracy because they see that functionally it's not working anymore yeah they're
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they're being pragmatic they're not being pessimistic or romantic about things i'm sure
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they would have preferred democracy had it worked most of them at least right yeah and i think the first
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country that we're seeing on this list is is el salvador which we're seeing from a really tight
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partnership with trump which may be prophetic of what might be coming wow interesting yeah
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uh no no i mean like el salvador like if you you know the people in el salvador like this
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current president right i think they're into it yeah it would it would seem if you look at like
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the murder rates how much they've like progressively like he can't just like lock up everybody who
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commits a crime like what watch me dude it's watch me watch if like trump did that was all these
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like people who are like raiding like new york i will know i love that remember when he was sitting
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next to the el salvadorian president he's like next up it's americans we got a lot of bad guys
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that are our own it's just build more prisons what a great way to handle prisons outsource them to
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another country i mean el salvadorian prisons are actually really like you were talking to me about
00:26:13.520
them yeah i mean i guess there are some really bad ones but i saw of of youtubers like it was a long
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it was like an hour long video where he goes through an el salvadorian prison and he he tours the
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various classes they're learning how to you know become plumbers and assemble toilets they're doing
00:26:33.520
first aid classes and they're learning basic cpr and and health and first aid they are they're
00:26:39.080
learning how to be service professionals and then he went to their their farm where they make all of
00:26:45.840
the food for the prisons from farm to table they grow the food they have the chickens they have the
00:26:51.240
cows they're using fresh milk the food they were making looked amazing and it's all fresh food like
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made by prisoners and i'm like wait a second they're these are they're learning practical
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trades they had a band the band performed they're learning practical trades this is like a commune
00:27:06.160
like it looks neat it did yes it but like a very productive commune a very productive all-male
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commune and the people they were like yeah i mean obviously it's propaganda so the people were like
00:27:16.780
yeah this is great whatever but like it actually i'm like how do i sign my kids up for a summer here
00:27:21.600
like this looks great they have the lessons they have the order they have the the cooking classes
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they have that would look great on a college application i spent a summer in an el salvadorian
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prison um yeah intentionally intentionally yeah it's it's wild i i need to send the video to you i'm
00:27:38.660
watching it thinking like ah yeah i'm gonna see just how terrifying it is and i see because you know
00:27:45.360
the all of the headlines that we saw are like men being squeezed together half naked in this very
00:27:53.480
inhumane way men in cages like shoved into really tight it looks progressives make up they just make
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it up i don't i don't think those photos are made up and i don't think those photos are real but they
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take like they probably break people down pretty significantly before they start building them up
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again but i don't know like sometimes when when you hit rock bottom or when you end up you know
00:28:21.680
addicted to drugs or in like a really dark place in your life that kind of jarring trauma for lack of a
00:28:29.820
better word is an important part of the process that there's this huge disruption and this huge anchoring
00:28:37.880
contrast of true rock bottom and then from there you know you're glad to be entering a life of
00:28:46.140
structure and discipline because it's a lot better than that that rock bottom period and the than the
00:28:51.280
cages which really sucked so i don't know me saying that we need to rethink the social contract this is
00:28:56.740
a mckenzie thing we need to rethink the social contract yeah but without any of the inconveniences
00:29:01.480
mckenzie's like oh we have to rethink this without talking about any of the yeah like what part of the
00:29:06.140
they they don't mean the constitutional foundation they might mean democratic participation well we'll
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go over the other parts what what could they have meant by this yeah i think that's what they mean
00:29:14.580
is democratic participation and i think that we're gonna see well for sure it's social security for
00:29:21.200
sure it's stock markets in the economy i think there's there's there's a lot i i don't actually i i would
00:29:28.380
be surprised if mckenzie was thinking that far ahead to democracy because they're very mercenary in their
00:29:35.640
focus so they're trying to sell to people who are manufacturing diapers oh no i think they were
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i think they i absolutely think they were i mean it's just so obvious that the democratic system
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isn't going to work in a post-demographic collapse world to you no one no one else in this movement
00:29:50.960
has talked about it i mean aside from curtis yarvin who's not talking about it in the context of
00:29:55.200
demographic collapse he's talking about it in the context of ideal design and again i'm not saying i like
00:30:00.280
this democracy has done great things for human civilization i like that if dem if demographics
00:30:05.980
were stable i think democracies could stay stable but we are forcing the hand of sort of the reality
00:30:13.240
it's the same way that like me pointing out that in europe when you import tons of people from a
00:30:20.520
different culture and a culture that does not want to acclimatize to your culture does not want to
00:30:25.780
convert to your culture and they are antagonistic to your culture and you import them and they have
00:30:32.300
a higher fertility rate than the native birth culture eventually either the native birth culture
00:30:36.680
is eradicated or they violently expel these individuals or expel them in some means right and
00:30:42.540
and there is almost no way to expel people at the scale that things have gotten in europe
00:30:46.480
that doesn't look horrifying like progressives are teeing up a genocide and like i'm like why are you
00:30:54.520
doing this like you can't like it's the same with with the demographic collecting they are
00:30:58.460
they are teeing up fascism i'm like i don't want fascism i don't want genocides stop teeing this up
00:31:05.620
stop making this an inevitability stop importing people who don't want to join the local culture
00:31:11.980
right like stop creating a demographic scenario where eventually the majority of the population will
00:31:17.920
be on social services and democracy will stop working right like this is this is
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i'm with you but yeah no one else seems to be so are we the crazy one why am i the only one well how
00:31:33.000
malcolm how can it be that your class of stanford grads
00:31:37.980
just can't understand i'll tell you how it can be it's because i have said so many times
00:31:46.020
built to make my life awesome i feel like this is from jerry's simulation right like like there is a
00:31:55.480
rick and morgy episode where jerry has simulated on like minimum capacity to make his life as easy as
00:31:58.920
possible so so i literally just go out and i'm like oh look at these numbers right like civilization
00:32:04.500
is going to collapse if we keep going at this rate like and and people are like no and i'm like
00:32:08.960
it's very obvious i'm not that smart i shouldn't have been the first person on earth
00:32:13.580
so you you think that your demographic collapse warnings are the equivalent of hungry for apples
00:32:20.020
it literally is it's the most obvious thing in the world so far he hasn't noticed he's in a
00:32:25.800
simulation well cap is sector at five percent processing keep his settings on auto national
00:32:30.320
america welcome to our agency i'm malcolm collins all right i'll just get to the pitch
00:32:36.720
um simple question gentlemen what are we we are humans we therefore would not want a world
00:32:45.220
without humans well say something do you like it yes you do yes so i sold it i sold the idea
00:32:56.120
yes oh my god thank you you're welcome thank you you're welcome hello guess who just sold the
00:33:04.020
humans campaign who just sold the humans campaign me oh civilization is about to collapse look at the
00:33:10.940
number of people the unit of civilization and then and then the group against me is like humans are bad
00:33:17.880
and i'm like actually humans are good like that's not a like a shocking statement or anything like that
00:33:23.960
there i almost prefer that you believe this simulation thing instead of the dark truth of
00:33:29.040
what a huge segment of developed world humanity believes the world would be better without any
00:33:35.560
humans 70 of a census representative population in the u.s i think that in other countries people
00:33:41.380
are a little bit more reasonable yeah i hope so at least but we'll see but yeah i mean i come out
00:33:48.380
here and i say this stuff and everyone's like you're racist you racist racist and i'm like
00:33:55.560
can we just like engage with the information here like this is this is i yeah but the the obviousness
00:34:04.220
of all of this so how does the social contract need to be reinvented okay next point of the social
00:34:09.980
contract taxation and social services citizens pay taxes and in return the government provides
00:34:14.760
public services like infrastructure education national defense and certain social programs
00:34:18.280
well i think that this part of the social contract is actually what's going to change the most
00:34:22.720
i think that we're going to go to a system that only gives back to people who pay taxes
00:34:28.880
i don't think it makes sense to have a system that that services people who are net drains on the
00:34:37.540
system i see this as feasible but not in a way that's going to scare people and that i think that
00:34:43.260
we're going to see basically ai pleasure induced sterilization and that will create like an
00:34:50.360
option for people to essentially go into what we've talked of as like pleasure pods like like
00:34:54.580
made like maybe like a you know a capsule hotel style building where you're in a constant vr
00:35:00.760
environment with a haptic suit and a catheter hooked up and a feeding tube and you're just kind of like
00:35:05.080
living in paradise and you know you you eventually will die and you won't reproduce you won't have
00:35:11.960
kids and then this this huge segment of what used to be a dependent population will be sterilized and
00:35:16.620
all that will be left are those who choose to strive and work and and in this case be tax generators for
00:35:23.560
whatever governments or city states they live within so i think it's more that like but what i what i think
00:35:29.700
will also happen is that governments will just dissolve and then basically communities will be forced
00:35:33.620
to take care of their own and so there there will be dependence in any population because i think
00:35:38.180
people are also empathetic and they care they care for their own so in places where governments just
00:35:42.740
crumble you're just going to have extended family clans and communities taking care of dependents taking
00:35:47.840
care of the elderly and the sick and they're not going to be able to do so as well as many wealthy
00:35:53.880
governments now so yes a lot of people will die but it's not like people are just going to be
00:35:59.640
abandoned because people are actually mostly nice people actually care yeah and if you want to see our
00:36:06.720
our longer take on this you can watch our episode on made which is this canadian assisted suicide
00:36:10.720
program it's that's the question homeless people are sad is it okay for the government to kill them
00:36:17.920
like okay next one is rule of law all citizens including government officials and rich people
00:36:27.280
are subject to the same laws and forth through an independent judiciary which you know obviously this is
00:36:32.180
this is why luigi was such a thing because people don't feel that this is true anymore
00:36:36.480
we don't feel that everyone is actually subject to the same laws we don't feel that the ceo who is
00:36:41.860
killing people was subject to the same laws as the average person and so people are like if you have
00:36:45.620
no way to remediate this extrajudicial measures seem appropriate yeah yeah and you're going to see
00:36:51.540
more vigilante justice and vigilante action and maybe also like as as police departments lose their
00:36:57.740
funding as fire departments lose their funding what we're going to see again is a rise in private
00:37:02.220
security and a rise in maybe fire departments like there were in early philadelphia and i didn't
00:37:07.940
know that there wasn't just one private fire department because so if you walk around philadelphia
00:37:12.460
and you look at some of the old houses some of them have these stone medallions over their doors
00:37:16.500
those are remnants from the old fire firefighting system where if you didn't pay your fire insurance
00:37:24.740
in and you had a house that was burning down the the you just no one would come and help you and
00:37:31.600
so maybe people will start paying for services like that in fact there were some i learned this
00:37:35.960
fire fire companies in philadelphia because there were multiple that formed to serve houses that had
00:37:42.560
trees in front of their homes because there were some companies that were like got a tree in front of
00:37:46.340
your home i'm not gonna even if you pay i can't help you like you don't qualify there were some that
00:37:51.460
were like focused on different ethnicities like maybe like the irish versus whatever and they
00:37:57.460
like threatened to take each other out or like tried to burn down each other's like fire fire
00:38:03.400
that's hilarious yeah so like but i do like we we have been here before we have lived with governments
00:38:09.900
that don't take care of everything before and we will entrepreneurially and creatively develop
00:38:16.780
solutions around that what's going to be really interesting is that we're going to be super powered
00:38:20.560
with ai when this happens so it's going to be very different than it was before it's not just
00:38:25.680
going to be this low tech like crew of men running around with a bunch of hoses or like a big fire
00:38:32.020
tank this could be a series of drones it automatically comes to your home when your smoke detector goes off
00:38:38.240
or when your very interesting yeah like i think it's like maybe a boston robotics dog is going to come
00:38:44.740
in and spray everything down with like some modern fire extinguisher foam so um i think it's going to be
00:38:52.420
interesting and i agree with you this is definitely something that needs to be navigated again but i think
00:38:56.240
it's going to be something that is going to be entrepreneurially like privatized and the solutions are going
00:39:03.240
to be quite interesting yeah and and and the final one here that i think is interesting is is federalism
00:39:08.840
power is divided between federal and state governments providing different levels of authority and responsibility
00:39:13.320
i think we're already seeing this breakdown like democracy is the problem right you know you you
00:39:18.600
centralize the authority and whether it's in el salvador or the united states i believe we're seeing a
00:39:23.800
centralizing of the authority around the executive branch i don't know if this is like ethically the
00:39:30.240
best way but it seems to be the way that things are naturally going right now so i think we're going to
00:39:35.580
see two things happen simultaneously local things getting more power and federal things getting more power and
00:39:40.980
and and and state and congress and senate mattering less and less becoming more like the roman senate to be honest
00:39:48.280
yeah that makes sense i i could definitely see that and i also i think that family contracts are going to
00:39:57.520
change significantly because at least in the united states with i think with the beginning of the baby boomers
00:40:03.580
there was just this perception of like i'm always going to be on my own i'm always going to do my own thing
00:40:07.980
every person every man for himself and we are going to lose that out of necessity not necessarily
00:40:13.640
because we want to but because we have no choice yes all right well that's all i have to say on the
00:40:20.140
subject anything else you have to say simone no the watching videos of her siblings has ceased to
00:40:26.740
entertain indy so i will not get worded twice tonight i'm from scratch doing your mango curry
00:40:34.760
with all those crazy steps but at this time it's gay i mean it's gay i mean no it has pineapple
00:40:41.680
and it's gonna be great wait i'm doing mango curry again yeah i'm doing the whole recipe again
00:40:47.540
because i don't want to just thaw out the stuff that i did and we still had a little bit of mango
00:40:51.220
puree and coconut cream left so i'm like one you got you got special yogurt special puree and special
00:40:58.040
coconut cream just for this i'm not going to waste the refrigerator i love it so i have the chicken
00:41:03.420
marinating already i made the urinating of the onion and the like spices and yogurt so now all i have to
00:41:12.580
do is start with the coconut cream and the tomato paste and then add the mango and then the very end
00:41:19.580
we're gonna add i'm assuming at the very end we had the pineapple we don't want to be like breaking
00:41:22.780
down not not very very end like middle end you want it to soften i don't know what yeah you do
00:41:28.440
want it to soften pineapple's pretty hard do you want me to put it in with the chicken then
00:41:32.080
like yeah i think that's an appropriate time to put it in or a little bit after all right so i will
00:41:36.360
do that so i'm gonna get down as soon as i can so that i can get that going for you i've never
00:41:42.040
cooked pineapple so i don't know how it's gonna react but i think that this is the time i would put it in
00:41:45.520
i mean you said you wanted this the good thing is this will not adulterate the original batch of
00:41:53.480
which there are free three frozen servings so so excited so excited you're really good at all this
00:42:00.420
you know that you're like we'll see how batch two goes i i don't you know you're like a loving wife
00:42:05.700
notice i didn't say you are a loving wife i don't well because i'm autistic and therefore one i don't
00:42:10.240
have a soul and two i'm incapable of love and imagination well you know rfk he got in trouble
00:42:15.260
for saying autistic people don't pay taxes he did he's saying autistic people don't get married and
00:42:20.020
autistic people don't pay taxes or something like they don't have kids on what grounds he's like my
00:42:27.020
mom you know oh yes and maybe it's a generational thing you know boomers i'm like you know elon your
00:42:34.240
your partner is autistic right like i mean i don't know how close kennedy and elon musk are anyway but
00:42:40.400
yeah all right indy's attacking me all right my beautiful
00:42:44.000
oh look at her she loved that she just wants to fight like the rest of our kids
00:42:52.780
she's crazy okay i'll see you downstairs i love you
00:42:59.200
can you say two toasty happy birthday diana yay happy birthday diana