Based Camp - Rethinking Social Contracts For A Post Demographic Collapse World

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to have a conversation

00:00:05.920 that was instigated by something that McKinsey said. This is McKinsey, the consulting firm,

00:00:10.280 the mainstream consulting firm, the very normal, normal, normal people consulting firm.

00:00:13.960 Yeah, the we don't say anything crazy consulting firm.

00:00:16.500 We don't say anything crazy. We're just coming to you as reports. Some people might have been

00:00:21.260 going around saying that the sky was falling, and we're now here to confirm that, yes, the sky is

00:00:26.320 descending at an accelerating pace, and that it might take place to reposition your assets

00:00:32.760 in non-terrestrial positions. You know, that's where we are in terms of, they said, quote,

00:00:38.700 on the call, right? And I mentioned this before, the world as we know it won't work in the new

00:00:43.020 demographic reality. Okay. That's not fun. That is really sweet. Such professional wording

00:00:52.920 for the world's ending as we know it. These prenatalists seem pretty apocalyptic in what 1.00

00:00:58.920 they're saying. It's like, are they really, like, is this really, like, a thing, you know? And people

00:01:04.700 expect them to come back and be like, no, yeah, they're just shock jocks. And they're, like,

00:01:09.140 ruffling the papers. The world will not work in the new demographic reality world as we know it. 0.79

00:01:15.420 And then they started talking about, well, we will need to rethink our social contracts.

00:01:23.700 And when Mackenzie says that, that's like, do we really need to go to Revelation right now?

00:01:31.500 And the consultant is like, I would be investing in personal, you know, like, gun-based assets.

00:01:39.140 Not stocks. I mean, you know, for your children and your wife, you may want to have a few of those

00:01:45.460 around the house in case. But anyway, I got to thinking about this. Like, what does this

00:01:51.580 reconstruction of social contracts look like? What do our existing social contracts look like?

00:01:56.560 Why will they not work anymore? And where do we go as a society? And so for the people who've

00:02:03.060 watched the episode where I talk about us, like, the democracy stops working in an era of

00:02:08.180 demographic collapse, it's, you know, we should go into this a little bit.

00:02:11.960 We're already at, and I didn't know it was this bad. In America, it's 1.8 taxpayers for

00:02:16.500 every one dependent right now. Not good. Not sustainable.

00:02:20.960 This was in 2023. And if you go to 2017, not 17, 2007, it was two taxpayers for every dependent.

00:02:28.580 Like, it's increasing really quickly. And typically systems break down when you get to 1.5

00:02:33.600 per dependent. And keep in mind, a lot of the world is like, we're ahead of us on this

00:02:37.940 particular roller coaster, right? You know, we're just like, tick, tick, tick. But other people,

00:02:42.860 the wah has already started. So, you know, you reach a point where the majority of a population 0.99

00:02:51.760 is recipients of the state. And they are living off of the minority of the population who is

00:02:59.080 essentially living as, I guess, sort of like slaves of the states to pay for the majority. And because

00:03:02.640 the majority won't vote away their own rights or their own money or payment, they just don't turn

00:03:08.320 off these systems. And then currencies collapses and you get revolutions and everything like that,

00:03:12.400 right? Not great.

00:03:13.840 Which basically makes democracies non-functional in the demographic reality in which we were

00:03:20.040 entering. And so I was thinking, okay, with that being the case, how do we rethink all of this

00:03:24.940 in the most ethical format possible? So first, I wanted to look into what is the social contract

00:03:32.380 that we live under in the United States right now? Any thoughts before I go further, Simone?

00:03:37.160 I have things to say as part of this conversation. I don't know if there's like additional framing we

00:03:42.580 need. But I guess I should ask, are we talking about social contracts between people and the

00:03:48.560 government or amongst people or both?

00:03:50.600 Both. Like, what do you have to say before I go further? I'm just going to read out like what

00:03:54.680 AI thinks the social contract we're currently living under is, but I want to hear your thoughts

00:03:58.240 before I go into that.

00:03:59.400 Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the one thing we can look to, to see how things have already

00:04:05.800 played out is what Shinzo Abe did before he was assassinated because he was, I think, the first

00:04:11.820 prime minister to really think through how we're going to have to at least begin to shift the social

00:04:17.500 contract, especially between people in the government in the face of demographic collapse,

00:04:21.680 because it is obvious that Japan is going to see a declining population. And he had to, well,

00:04:28.560 he didn't have to, but he chose to decide to try to navigate the fact that they would not be able

00:04:36.640 to support social security the way that a country with a growing population would, which is something

00:04:44.220 we're going to have to encounter too. Cause I think what, based on current patterns, social

00:04:49.520 security is going to go bankrupt by 2036 or 2037. So this matters. And what he did is not actually

00:04:56.900 what I expected he would do. I thought he would just cut benefits to Indy. That's because you bit 0.95

00:05:04.800 metal. Don't chew on that. She's, she's biting the walls of her crib, but then she's an animal 1.00

00:05:16.080 child, Simone. They are. Yeah. You can get through it with enough time. Her pickle skewers are pretty

00:05:22.840 sharp. So instead of just reducing the generosity benefits for older people, he actually shifted to

00:05:30.860 an all generation social security system. So he redefined the focus of social security to serve

00:05:36.560 not only elderly, but also children and families and the working age population, which I think is

00:05:41.020 really interesting that it's shifting the social contract away from something that to your point,

00:05:47.280 basically only benefits the very old and, or otherwise very dependent. And instead more supports

00:05:54.540 everyone, which I kind of like, cause it motivates the people who are paying for a lot of this.

00:06:00.340 To feel not demoralized. And your whole point is that democracy and representative democracy

00:06:08.740 becomes undermined when you have one voting class leeching off another less.

00:06:15.580 That's actually really clever. That's really clever that he did that. So he basically made

00:06:20.320 social security into a UBI.

00:06:23.060 Well, no, not, not exactly. No. So he's just trying to rebalance the benefits and burdens of the,

00:06:30.660 of the system to support families with children and working generations, because he wants to one 0.98

00:06:35.960 address the root causes of population decline. And two, of course, make dependent care more sustainable.

00:06:43.460 So the big things that he did, one is, and this is huge and costly. So part of me is like, whoa,

00:06:50.420 he did that because my intuitive response is, well, we just have to cut as much government spending

00:06:55.740 across the board as we can. I mean, that wasn't his response. So he rolled out free early childhood

00:07:01.520 education and childcare in 2019. So as of 2019, October in Japan, early childhood education and childcare

00:07:09.360 became free for children aged three to five, which for anyone who's paid for childcare in the United

00:07:15.260 States is going to be like, oh my gosh, especially considering like childcare in the United States,

00:07:19.860 dodgy childcare in Japan, God tier, absolutely amazing. So, and also higher education was made free 0.97

00:07:26.720 for students from low-income families from April, 2020 onwards. So this is making life for young

00:07:32.900 children and even young adults a lot easier. He also expanded childcare and family support.

00:07:39.060 So there, there was a government increase in child bearing allowances that sort of expanded

00:07:46.380 daycare access and invested in family welfare to encourage higher birth rates and support working

00:07:51.160 parents. And then this, there also were policies to increase workforce participation because obviously

00:07:57.680 the problem isn't just warm bodies. It's the number of warm bodies generating tax revenue. And a big

00:08:02.780 problem in Japan is that especially with families that have kids, typically the mother stops working. 0.95

00:08:07.880 And we saw this with our friends and the mother would become a stay-at-home mother and just stop 0.98

00:08:11.580 working. Really? Even with like two kids? What's that? Even with only like two kids? Oh, even with one

00:08:17.500 kid. Yeah. Yeah. Mothers were, and also like this, this happened a lot of corporations too. It's just

00:08:23.480 kind of expected that like, oh, you're a mother now. So you're going to stop working here. So the

00:08:28.040 government shifted policies to encourage greater participation of women and, and the elderly,

00:08:32.880 which is important in the workforce. And the number of women actually increased significantly 1.00

00:08:38.680 after the measures were introduced to allow and incentivize people to work also to work up to age

00:08:44.400 70 and beyond. So I love this. Cause they're also like guys retirement. We're not doing it anymore.

00:08:51.040 We're not, we're super not doing it. I actually love this. No, retirement is stupid. Like I like

00:08:56.200 the idea. I, I might, I might actually approach it differently. Like I'm not super pro UBI. You

00:09:00.680 can watch out, you know, like Tim Altman live UBI video, but like, like UBI seems to make people's

00:09:05.640 lives literally worse. Like it would be funny. Like a lot of people don't realize this.

00:09:09.060 Yeah.

00:09:10.280 Your like motivation, like when people were given a thousand dollars a month for three years,

00:09:14.320 they actually ended up with significantly less money than the people who were given nothing

00:09:18.280 and they didn't spend more time with their kids and they didn't train themselves and they didn't,

00:09:22.740 you know, anything like that. So like UBI, not the best, uh, but it does seem better than just

00:09:29.600 letting everyone die or keeping the existing social security system intact. And so I think if you like

00:09:34.940 dramatically cut existing social security said, actually you guys are expected to work,

00:09:39.200 switched it to UBI. So everyone is like, well, at least if things go bad for me,

00:09:43.320 the system is paying out right. That I can see working. Although like if I was going to do it

00:09:49.620 in my ideal world, like, I don't know if this would be politically palatable, but I would switch

00:09:53.880 these out to like UBI towns. If, if, if you wanted to take that route, but you're like living in

00:09:59.460 government facilities and stuff like that, it's basically workhouses where there is some cost to

00:10:05.140 doing this. Like, I don't think it should be an easy option for people now, but otherwise really

00:10:11.260 smart of, of Shinto Abe, right? If I'm going to go to the, I think it's really important to point out

00:10:16.720 that old people have lower rates of dementia and often are more physically healthy, typically are

00:10:25.380 more physically healthy if they are physically and mentally active and having a job really helps with

00:10:32.220 that. It is a better for an elderly person to be engaged. Now that doesn't have to be being a 0.96

00:10:39.300 greeter at Walmart, I think other really great options for elderly people are say, taking care

00:10:44.100 of grandkids, which is what elderly people have done for, I mean, arguably millions of years while

00:10:50.540 their children and grandchildren worked out in a field or ran the brewery or the butcher shop or

00:10:57.680 something like that, right? Managed livestock. So I, when, when I see things like, oh, well, let's raise

00:11:03.520 the age of retirement or let's allow people to work at older ages. I think good. They will live more 0.73

00:11:10.300 meaningful, engaged, community filled, socialized, vibrant lives. And that is a good thing. So I don't

00:11:19.200 know. I, I, I think that this is not just about sacrificing. I think that really Shinzo Abe was going

00:11:27.360 for maximum human flourishing, helping children, helping families and sort of getting the entire

00:11:33.920 society collectively to join in on this. Like old people get back to work, women enter the workforce, 0.86

00:11:40.720 kids, we're going to help you out, families, we're going to help you out. And I, I think that's super cool.

00:11:46.320 I feel like, like there's a reason why Shinzo Abe has become sort of the spiritual leader of the new right.

00:11:51.440 And if you want to learn more about him, you can go to our video on him because we have a deep dive into Shinzo Abe and his life.

00:12:14.720 But like, if you look at man's world, you know, when we were doing the aesthetics of the new right,

00:12:18.800 it was sort of like a Trinity, like vintage anime girl, Trump and Shinzo Abe. Yeah.

00:12:23.440 If you, if you look at the video that we did of like the anime Trump presidency, where Shinzo Abe saves

00:12:28.800 him from being assassinated. And he's sort of treated as like this spiritual guide to the movement because

00:12:33.760 he represented like, bro, like this isn't about like economic liberalism or economic conservatism.

00:12:39.600 It's about trying to create something that works and that, that maximizes human flourishing.

00:12:46.080 And we need to just ditch these old concepts. There are people who are anti-human, anti-life,

00:12:51.520 and there are people who are pro-human and pro-life. And, and some of these pro-human pro-life people

00:12:56.160 work in union jobs and some of them work in manufacturing and, and, and many of them are

00:13:01.280 not in this oligarchical class. Right. You know, and, and, and yeah, it's okay for Trump to do the

00:13:05.840 tariffs and attempt to help them. You know, it was okay for like this idea of like maximize flourishing.

00:13:12.320 And I think that, that Shinzo Abe was attempting that. Well, and also not even maximized flourishing,

00:13:16.960 but austerity in ways that are meaningful. So the, the ways that he increased revenue and

00:13:24.480 decreased spending, despite adding some generous benefits, like, you know, childcare was in addition

00:13:30.560 to having people encouraging and incentivizing women to work and old people to work later into their

00:13:37.520 lives. He also added, we're sorry, raised the consumption tax in Japan by 10%, which I think

00:13:45.280 is appropriate. It's like saying, Hey, focus less on consumerism, focus more on life, on family,

00:13:52.000 on work. And I like that too. I, I, I think that that's a great place to put emphasis.

00:13:58.800 Yeah. So I, wait, he raised the consumption tax as you get older by 10. No, no, no. He just raised

00:14:06.560 Japan's consumption task tax by 10%. It's, it's like a sales tax, like a value added tax.

00:14:16.400 And that's, so most of that revenue was allocated to social security reforms benefiting like that. So

00:14:22.400 that, that addition was primarily to help to pay for all the new like childcare benefits that were now

00:14:29.120 released. So to, to make the elder care part of, of their, their pension system more sustainable,

00:14:37.040 they sort of shifted around incentives. Like one, they raised the retirement age to,

00:14:42.000 they incentivize people to retire later, even beyond that, because then they would probably just,

00:14:46.640 just, I don't know, die before using other benefits. Um, and then three, they raised the

00:14:51.600 consumption tax to make life easier for families in hopes that those families would have more

00:14:56.080 children, which I think is the, it's perfect. Like it's, it's really smart and it's, it's interesting

00:15:01.840 to me. Then also shout out to Brian Chow of the, from the new world podcast and many other amazing

00:15:09.360 initiatives and startups and nonprofits and AI alignment work to, who actually pointed me in this

00:15:14.880 direction because as much as like Shinzo Abe has just been this meme and seen as being close to

00:15:20.160 Trump, no one else I know has really talked about the actual social security and social safety net

00:15:28.240 reforms that he implemented before being assassinated that have really put Japan on much stronger footing

00:15:35.360 than it was before he made any impact. Like he actually changed the trajectory of the country

00:15:41.760 significantly. And he did their fertility right now. It's like the highest in Asia, but like a huge

00:15:46.160 margin. And to a great extent that is because of these reforms, because there's universal universal,

00:15:51.600 sorry, universal, universal childcare. So I I'm dying to go to Japan. I'm dying. Like it is,

00:15:57.280 it is becoming a very pronatalist country and I'm, I'm dying to experience it. You know, 1.00

00:16:03.040 we've talked about it to reverse fertility collapse. I don't know. I think it's possible. And

00:16:08.320 it gives me a lot of my, my, my main area of hope in the world of demographic collapse right now is

00:16:14.480 Japan for sure. I mean, we've talked about this in our episodes that like a lot of Japanese media

00:16:18.480 is very pronatalist. You know, um, we talk about, you know, Gurren Lagann basically being like

00:16:24.960 pronatalism the anime. Where are you drawing all of this power from? We evolve beyond the person we were

00:16:31.920 a minute before little by little, we advance a bit further with each turn. That's how a drill works.

00:16:39.600 Mark my words. This drill will open a hole in the universe. And that hole will be a path for those

00:16:46.720 behind us. The dreams of those who have fallen, the hopes of those who will follow those two sets

00:16:53.040 of dreams weave together into a double helix drilling a path towards tomorrow. And then another one by the

00:16:59.440 same team, which was Frank's double X being incredibly pronatalist, a dark darling and Frank's 1.00

00:17:05.840 and grandma and grandpa turned young again, being very pronatalist. So sweet. So sweet. That's a good episode.

00:17:12.400 正太君、あとは任せたぞ。じゃあ何かあったらよ。

00:17:18.080 見てみる?そうだね。うん。なあ、ばあさま、休憩するか。だなあ、くらいいい天気だの。だなあ、さすがわしらの孫。成績もうなぎにしてるそうでなあ、くらいいい天気だの。だなあ、さすがわしらの孫。成績もうなぎにしてるそうでなあ。

00:17:42.000 その話題では。

00:17:44.000 海並みは違うから。あけみたちが来て。

00:17:46.720 ばあさま、もし願い事が一つかなうとしたら。

00:17:51.440 願い事ならもうかなっとるよ。

00:17:54.240 ばあさま、あすは何を。

00:18:00.960 見たら風邪ひいちゃうよ。

00:18:10.400 もう、そんなところで寝たら風邪ひいちゃうよ。

00:18:20.400 気に入いたフリーのアニメが大寛再把它産占けましたね。

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00:18:26.400 ほん、んwんが私以下です。

00:18:27.840 spiritual記事のゾ McMahonが、非常悪にオ Scottウェイちゃう。

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00:18:43.520 we can analyze why it may not work like i want to understand what do they mean by this yeah

00:18:48.220 the social contract sorry is this as described by mckinsey no it's described by claude like

00:18:54.660 mckinsey who said we need to rethink social contracts without defining what that yes

00:18:58.400 the social contract in the united states refers to the implicit agreement between citizens and

00:19:03.080 the government regarding rights responsibilities and social organization while there isn't a

00:19:07.320 single farmer document called the social contract it's embodied in various aspects of american

00:19:12.260 identity at its core u.s social contract includes one constitutional foundation the u.s constitution

00:19:19.820 bill of rights outlaw fundamental rights and limitations on government power citizens agree

00:19:24.480 to follow laws while the governments protect their rights to life liberty and property

00:19:28.220 number two that one obviously isn't like an issue democratic participation citizens have the right

00:19:34.320 to vote participate in government and peacefully assemble in protest now this is one that i

00:19:39.220 pointed out i don't think is sustainable in the new demographic reality that we're heading into

00:19:45.940 you know once we have a position where the majority of the population might feel that they have a right

00:19:51.760 to be cared for by the government you know they never vote themselves less money and then they they

00:19:56.720 end up disappearing eventually because all the people with money leave you know because ai concentrates

00:20:01.780 wealth and that allows the few productive people to just be like i'm out man like honestly no if

00:20:07.780 you're personally right are supporting like 20 like non-working people especially non-working people

00:20:13.920 who are in a separate political party that claims to hate you yeah you don't identify with or yeah

00:20:19.640 you're gonna be like yeah and i mean just look at how gen z and millennials and gen x view boomers

00:20:26.020 okay there's not gonna there's not a lot of magnanimous giving going on the boomers and we know the 0.73

00:20:32.580 boomers are gonna be the ones who do this and they're like well no they're they're the they're 0.75

00:20:35.680 the ones that are draining the cup for us they're the last ones out it's very annoying actually well

00:20:42.140 at least they die before any of the cool stuff happens i'm so glad and the boomers are the last 1.00

00:20:47.400 generation to die thank god they were not very good stewards of our world i know they really you know 0.98

00:20:54.300 we've had the theory that i talked with simone about where it's like every generation post boomers

00:20:58.360 has become more mature if you look at like gen alpha today you see them being more like actually

00:21:04.560 promiscuity is bad like actually you know the hating the other gender is bad like actually like 0.99

00:21:10.560 we need to i saw a poll recently that showed the generation like right below the voting generation

00:21:16.080 right now i think it was like 18 to like 20 it might have been younger it might have been like 16 to 18

00:21:21.120 okay with majority republican finally and not democrat like nothing like this has happened

00:21:26.960 before no yeah but it's it's it's what like this is a generation that in their sensibilities

00:21:33.220 is very traditionalist and not just traditionalist but conservative and in our generation you know i think

00:21:39.880 we as a generation have been significantly more traditionalists who are outside the urban monoculture

00:21:44.160 that's just like went crazy traditionalists in the generation before us um and and and i don't

00:21:50.580 mean traditionalist and sort of like blind traditionalism but traditionalist and like the

00:21:54.720 way a mature person is like hey you know maybe you shouldn't have skittles for breakfast every morning

00:22:00.300 maybe there's a reason for the crazy things that people is that is that what maha is like maybe

00:22:05.420 skittles for breakfast is not the best idea you could say that malcolm yes

00:22:11.160 what's going on maybe it's all this stuff that you both eat oh will you get off that no honestly

00:22:19.320 it's true okay moss what did you have for breakfast this morning smarty cereal oh my god i didn't even

00:22:25.060 know smarties made a cereal they don't it's just smarties in a bowl with milk i just want our kids

00:22:32.100 to have fruit loops okay not fruit loops but like fruit roll-ups and like juice and squeezes

00:22:37.860 don't exist anymore did you guys know this this is sad at least they're still twinkies i can get

00:22:42.720 them twinkies right simone like why can't i just give them fun foods instead of just your your 1.00

00:22:48.720 your poison of of vegetables and fruits what they're gonna die if they eat that

00:23:00.760 but anyway i don't don't even give me start i we can't this this beautiful face here this body

00:23:14.260 is made up of pop tarts and fruit roll-ups simone that is that is what could you have been were you

00:23:21.020 given slightly better resources as a child the potential maybe the behavioral problems you

00:23:29.160 wouldn't have i i don't know i just i had i had adults with behavioral problems i didn't have

00:23:34.740 behavioral problems and what did they eat

00:23:36.880 they ate italian food and this is why italy is falling apart empty carbs true actually i guess

00:23:46.160 you're right you know i don't know what to tell you malcolm we're going to what claude says our

00:23:52.460 current social contract is so we have a baseline taxation like we need to reinvent i was talking

00:23:57.960 about democratic participation i'm like demo democracy as we understand it i do not think

00:24:01.680 will continue to work you know i i think that we're seeing sort of a and and this is what's really

00:24:07.680 interesting i think we're seeing a post-democratic alliance beginning to form in opposition to so i think

00:24:14.420 there's sort of like three big power groups okay i think there's the never democracy group and i

00:24:20.440 think people assume that the post-democracy group is going to become like the never democracy group

00:24:24.960 this is like your north korea your you know like that that sort of a thing right like russia i mean

00:24:31.220 it had like a democracy for a period but it didn't like you really transition to a post-democracy

00:24:35.880 these are demographically the equivalent to the countries that are high fertility because they didn't

00:24:42.020 get their economy figured out and they're just like desperately poor and that's why they're high

00:24:45.740 high fertility and then there's going to be other countries like israel that like went through the

00:24:49.180 demographic dip like they got all of the wealth and then they found a way out of it and i think the u.s

00:24:53.180 will eventually get to that position as well that they find a way to motivate fertility in spite of 0.92

00:24:57.960 wealth and prosperity and so i think that in the same way that you have this group that's like we

00:25:02.180 found a way to motivate fertility in spite of wealth and prosperity you're going to have this group

00:25:06.240 that leaves democracy because they see that functionally it's not working anymore yeah they're

00:25:13.300 they're being pragmatic they're not being pessimistic or romantic about things i'm sure

00:25:17.900 they would have preferred democracy had it worked most of them at least right yeah and i think the first

00:25:22.540 country that we're seeing on this list is is el salvador which we're seeing from a really tight

00:25:26.880 partnership with trump which may be prophetic of what might be coming wow interesting yeah

00:25:32.980 uh no no i mean like el salvador like if you you know the people in el salvador like this

00:25:38.180 current president right i think they're into it yeah it would it would seem if you look at like

00:25:42.460 the murder rates how much they've like progressively like he can't just like lock up everybody who

00:25:47.280 commits a crime like what watch me dude it's watch me watch if like trump did that was all these

00:25:56.060 like people who are like raiding like new york i will know i love that remember when he was sitting

00:26:00.440 next to the el salvadorian president he's like next up it's americans we got a lot of bad guys

00:26:04.920 that are our own it's just build more prisons what a great way to handle prisons outsource them to

00:26:09.300 another country i mean el salvadorian prisons are actually really like you were talking to me about

00:26:13.520 them yeah i mean i guess there are some really bad ones but i saw of of youtubers like it was a long

00:26:20.740 it was like an hour long video where he goes through an el salvadorian prison and he he tours the

00:26:27.900 various classes they're learning how to you know become plumbers and assemble toilets they're doing

00:26:33.520 first aid classes and they're learning basic cpr and and health and first aid they are they're

00:26:39.080 learning how to be service professionals and then he went to their their farm where they make all of

00:26:45.840 the food for the prisons from farm to table they grow the food they have the chickens they have the

00:26:51.240 cows they're using fresh milk the food they were making looked amazing and it's all fresh food like

00:26:57.200 made by prisoners and i'm like wait a second they're these are they're learning practical

00:27:01.000 trades they had a band the band performed they're learning practical trades this is like a commune

00:27:06.160 like it looks neat it did yes it but like a very productive commune a very productive all-male

00:27:12.360 commune and the people they were like yeah i mean obviously it's propaganda so the people were like

00:27:16.780 yeah this is great whatever but like it actually i'm like how do i sign my kids up for a summer here

00:27:21.600 like this looks great they have the lessons they have the order they have the the cooking classes

00:27:26.840 they have that would look great on a college application i spent a summer in an el salvadorian

00:27:30.940 prison um yeah intentionally intentionally yeah it's it's wild i i need to send the video to you i'm

00:27:38.660 watching it thinking like ah yeah i'm gonna see just how terrifying it is and i see because you know

00:27:45.360 the all of the headlines that we saw are like men being squeezed together half naked in this very

00:27:53.480 inhumane way men in cages like shoved into really tight it looks progressives make up they just make

00:28:03.000 it up i don't i don't think those photos are made up and i don't think those photos are real but they

00:28:07.720 take like they probably break people down pretty significantly before they start building them up

00:28:12.340 again but i don't know like sometimes when when you hit rock bottom or when you end up you know

00:28:21.680 addicted to drugs or in like a really dark place in your life that kind of jarring trauma for lack of a

00:28:29.820 better word is an important part of the process that there's this huge disruption and this huge anchoring

00:28:37.880 contrast of true rock bottom and then from there you know you're glad to be entering a life of

00:28:46.140 structure and discipline because it's a lot better than that that rock bottom period and the than the

00:28:51.280 cages which really sucked so i don't know me saying that we need to rethink the social contract this is

00:28:56.740 a mckenzie thing we need to rethink the social contract yeah but without any of the inconveniences

00:29:01.480 mckenzie's like oh we have to rethink this without talking about any of the yeah like what part of the

00:29:06.140 they they don't mean the constitutional foundation they might mean democratic participation well we'll

00:29:10.600 go over the other parts what what could they have meant by this yeah i think that's what they mean

00:29:14.580 is democratic participation and i think that we're gonna see well for sure it's social security for

00:29:21.200 sure it's stock markets in the economy i think there's there's there's a lot i i don't actually i i would

00:29:28.380 be surprised if mckenzie was thinking that far ahead to democracy because they're very mercenary in their 0.95

00:29:35.640 focus so they're trying to sell to people who are manufacturing diapers oh no i think they were

00:29:41.460 i think they i absolutely think they were i mean it's just so obvious that the democratic system

00:29:45.320 isn't going to work in a post-demographic collapse world to you no one no one else in this movement

00:29:50.960 has talked about it i mean aside from curtis yarvin who's not talking about it in the context of

00:29:55.200 demographic collapse he's talking about it in the context of ideal design and again i'm not saying i like

00:30:00.280 this democracy has done great things for human civilization i like that if dem if demographics

00:30:05.980 were stable i think democracies could stay stable but we are forcing the hand of sort of the reality

00:30:13.240 it's the same way that like me pointing out that in europe when you import tons of people from a

00:30:20.520 different culture and a culture that does not want to acclimatize to your culture does not want to 1.00

00:30:25.780 convert to your culture and they are antagonistic to your culture and you import them and they have 1.00

00:30:32.300 a higher fertility rate than the native birth culture eventually either the native birth culture

00:30:36.680 is eradicated or they violently expel these individuals or expel them in some means right and

00:30:42.540 and there is almost no way to expel people at the scale that things have gotten in europe

00:30:46.480 that doesn't look horrifying like progressives are teeing up a genocide and like i'm like why are you

00:30:54.520 doing this like you can't like it's the same with with the demographic collecting they are

00:30:58.460 they are teeing up fascism i'm like i don't want fascism i don't want genocides stop teeing this up

00:31:05.620 stop making this an inevitability stop importing people who don't want to join the local culture 0.61

00:31:11.980 right like stop creating a demographic scenario where eventually the majority of the population will

00:31:17.920 be on social services and democracy will stop working right like this is this is

00:31:22.680 i'm with you but yeah no one else seems to be so are we the crazy one why am i the only one well how

00:31:33.000 malcolm how can it be that your class of stanford grads

00:31:37.980 just can't understand i'll tell you how it can be it's because i have said so many times

00:31:46.020 built to make my life awesome i feel like this is from jerry's simulation right like like there is a

00:31:55.480 rick and morgy episode where jerry has simulated on like minimum capacity to make his life as easy as

00:31:58.920 possible so so i literally just go out and i'm like oh look at these numbers right like civilization

00:32:04.500 is going to collapse if we keep going at this rate like and and people are like no and i'm like

00:32:08.960 it's very obvious i'm not that smart i shouldn't have been the first person on earth

00:32:13.580 so you you think that your demographic collapse warnings are the equivalent of hungry for apples

00:32:20.020 it literally is it's the most obvious thing in the world so far he hasn't noticed he's in a

00:32:25.800 simulation well cap is sector at five percent processing keep his settings on auto national

00:32:30.320 america welcome to our agency i'm malcolm collins all right i'll just get to the pitch

00:32:36.720 um simple question gentlemen what are we we are humans we therefore would not want a world

00:32:45.220 without humans well say something do you like it yes you do yes so i sold it i sold the idea

00:32:56.120 yes oh my god thank you you're welcome thank you you're welcome hello guess who just sold the

00:33:04.020 humans campaign who just sold the humans campaign me oh civilization is about to collapse look at the

00:33:10.940 number of people the unit of civilization and then and then the group against me is like humans are bad

00:33:17.880 and i'm like actually humans are good like that's not a like a shocking statement or anything like that

00:33:23.960 there i almost prefer that you believe this simulation thing instead of the dark truth of

00:33:29.040 what a huge segment of developed world humanity believes the world would be better without any

00:33:35.560 humans 70 of a census representative population in the u.s i think that in other countries people

00:33:41.380 are a little bit more reasonable yeah i hope so at least but we'll see but yeah i mean i come out 0.93

00:33:48.380 here and i say this stuff and everyone's like you're racist you racist racist and i'm like 0.70

00:33:55.560 can we just like engage with the information here like this is this is i yeah but the the obviousness 0.79

00:34:04.220 of all of this so how does the social contract need to be reinvented okay next point of the social

00:34:09.980 contract taxation and social services citizens pay taxes and in return the government provides

00:34:14.760 public services like infrastructure education national defense and certain social programs

00:34:18.280 well i think that this part of the social contract is actually what's going to change the most

00:34:22.720 i think that we're going to go to a system that only gives back to people who pay taxes

00:34:28.880 i don't think it makes sense to have a system that that services people who are net drains on the

00:34:37.540 system i see this as feasible but not in a way that's going to scare people and that i think that

00:34:43.260 we're going to see basically ai pleasure induced sterilization and that will create like an

00:34:50.360 option for people to essentially go into what we've talked of as like pleasure pods like like

00:34:54.580 made like maybe like a you know a capsule hotel style building where you're in a constant vr

00:35:00.760 environment with a haptic suit and a catheter hooked up and a feeding tube and you're just kind of like

00:35:05.080 living in paradise and you know you you eventually will die and you won't reproduce you won't have 1.00

00:35:11.960 kids and then this this huge segment of what used to be a dependent population will be sterilized and

00:35:16.620 all that will be left are those who choose to strive and work and and in this case be tax generators for

00:35:23.560 whatever governments or city states they live within so i think it's more that like but what i what i think

00:35:29.700 will also happen is that governments will just dissolve and then basically communities will be forced

00:35:33.620 to take care of their own and so there there will be dependence in any population because i think

00:35:38.180 people are also empathetic and they care they care for their own so in places where governments just

00:35:42.740 crumble you're just going to have extended family clans and communities taking care of dependents taking

00:35:47.840 care of the elderly and the sick and they're not going to be able to do so as well as many wealthy

00:35:53.880 governments now so yes a lot of people will die but it's not like people are just going to be

00:35:59.640 abandoned because people are actually mostly nice people actually care yeah and if you want to see our

00:36:06.720 our longer take on this you can watch our episode on made which is this canadian assisted suicide

00:36:10.720 program it's that's the question homeless people are sad is it okay for the government to kill them

00:36:17.920 like okay next one is rule of law all citizens including government officials and rich people

00:36:27.280 are subject to the same laws and forth through an independent judiciary which you know obviously this is

00:36:32.180 this is why luigi was such a thing because people don't feel that this is true anymore

00:36:36.480 we don't feel that everyone is actually subject to the same laws we don't feel that the ceo who is

00:36:41.860 killing people was subject to the same laws as the average person and so people are like if you have

00:36:45.620 no way to remediate this extrajudicial measures seem appropriate yeah yeah and you're going to see

00:36:51.540 more vigilante justice and vigilante action and maybe also like as as police departments lose their

00:36:57.740 funding as fire departments lose their funding what we're going to see again is a rise in private

00:37:02.220 security and a rise in maybe fire departments like there were in early philadelphia and i didn't

00:37:07.940 know that there wasn't just one private fire department because so if you walk around philadelphia

00:37:12.460 and you look at some of the old houses some of them have these stone medallions over their doors

00:37:16.500 those are remnants from the old fire firefighting system where if you didn't pay your fire insurance

00:37:24.740 in and you had a house that was burning down the the you just no one would come and help you and

00:37:31.600 so maybe people will start paying for services like that in fact there were some i learned this

00:37:35.960 fire fire companies in philadelphia because there were multiple that formed to serve houses that had

00:37:42.560 trees in front of their homes because there were some companies that were like got a tree in front of

00:37:46.340 your home i'm not gonna even if you pay i can't help you like you don't qualify there were some that

00:37:51.460 were like focused on different ethnicities like maybe like the irish versus whatever and they

00:37:57.460 like threatened to take each other out or like tried to burn down each other's like fire fire

00:38:03.400 that's hilarious yeah so like but i do like we we have been here before we have lived with governments

00:38:09.900 that don't take care of everything before and we will entrepreneurially and creatively develop

00:38:16.780 solutions around that what's going to be really interesting is that we're going to be super powered

00:38:20.560 with ai when this happens so it's going to be very different than it was before it's not just

00:38:25.680 going to be this low tech like crew of men running around with a bunch of hoses or like a big fire

00:38:32.020 tank this could be a series of drones it automatically comes to your home when your smoke detector goes off

00:38:38.240 or when your very interesting yeah like i think it's like maybe a boston robotics dog is going to come

00:38:44.740 in and spray everything down with like some modern fire extinguisher foam so um i think it's going to be

00:38:52.420 interesting and i agree with you this is definitely something that needs to be navigated again but i think

00:38:56.240 it's going to be something that is going to be entrepreneurially like privatized and the solutions are going

00:39:03.240 to be quite interesting yeah and and and the final one here that i think is interesting is is federalism

00:39:08.840 power is divided between federal and state governments providing different levels of authority and responsibility

00:39:13.320 i think we're already seeing this breakdown like democracy is the problem right you know you you

00:39:18.600 centralize the authority and whether it's in el salvador or the united states i believe we're seeing a

00:39:23.800 centralizing of the authority around the executive branch i don't know if this is like ethically the

00:39:30.240 best way but it seems to be the way that things are naturally going right now so i think we're going to

00:39:35.580 see two things happen simultaneously local things getting more power and federal things getting more power and

00:39:40.980 and and and state and congress and senate mattering less and less becoming more like the roman senate to be honest

00:39:47.180 during the imperial era

00:39:48.280 yeah that makes sense i i could definitely see that and i also i think that family contracts are going to

00:39:57.520 change significantly because at least in the united states with i think with the beginning of the baby boomers

00:40:03.580 there was just this perception of like i'm always going to be on my own i'm always going to do my own thing

00:40:07.980 every person every man for himself and we are going to lose that out of necessity not necessarily

00:40:13.640 because we want to but because we have no choice yes all right well that's all i have to say on the

00:40:20.140 subject anything else you have to say simone no the watching videos of her siblings has ceased to

00:40:26.740 entertain indy so i will not get worded twice tonight i'm from scratch doing your mango curry 0.91

00:40:34.760 with all those crazy steps but at this time it's gay i mean it's gay i mean no it has pineapple 0.75

00:40:41.680 and it's gonna be great wait i'm doing mango curry again yeah i'm doing the whole recipe again 0.78

00:40:47.540 because i don't want to just thaw out the stuff that i did and we still had a little bit of mango

00:40:51.220 puree and coconut cream left so i'm like one you got you got special yogurt special puree and special

00:40:58.040 coconut cream just for this i'm not going to waste the refrigerator i love it so i have the chicken

00:41:03.420 marinating already i made the urinating of the onion and the like spices and yogurt so now all i have to

00:41:12.580 do is start with the coconut cream and the tomato paste and then add the mango and then the very end

00:41:19.580 we're gonna add i'm assuming at the very end we had the pineapple we don't want to be like breaking

00:41:22.780 down not not very very end like middle end you want it to soften i don't know what yeah you do

00:41:28.440 want it to soften pineapple's pretty hard do you want me to put it in with the chicken then

00:41:32.080 like yeah i think that's an appropriate time to put it in or a little bit after all right so i will

00:41:36.360 do that so i'm gonna get down as soon as i can so that i can get that going for you i've never

00:41:42.040 cooked pineapple so i don't know how it's gonna react but i think that this is the time i would put it in

00:41:45.520 i mean you said you wanted this the good thing is this will not adulterate the original batch of

00:41:53.480 which there are free three frozen servings so so excited so excited you're really good at all this

00:42:00.420 you know that you're like we'll see how batch two goes i i don't you know you're like a loving wife

00:42:05.700 notice i didn't say you are a loving wife i don't well because i'm autistic and therefore one i don't

00:42:10.240 have a soul and two i'm incapable of love and imagination well you know rfk he got in trouble

00:42:15.260 for saying autistic people don't pay taxes he did he's saying autistic people don't get married and

00:42:20.020 autistic people don't pay taxes or something like they don't have kids on what grounds he's like my

00:42:27.020 mom you know oh yes and maybe it's a generational thing you know boomers i'm like you know elon your

00:42:34.240 your partner is autistic right like i mean i don't know how close kennedy and elon musk are anyway but

00:42:40.400 yeah all right indy's attacking me all right my beautiful 1.00

00:42:44.000 oh look at her she loved that she just wants to fight like the rest of our kids 1.00

00:42:52.780 she's crazy okay i'll see you downstairs i love you

00:42:59.200 can you say two toasty happy birthday diana yay happy birthday diana

Based Camp - May 13, 2025

Rethinking Social Contracts For A Post Demographic Collapse World

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