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In this episode, we talk about the alarming rates of youth joining the youth in Asia, and how this could have a major impact on the country's mental health and well-being. We also talk about why it s a good thing that kids are now going to school.
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Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today.
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Today, we are going to be talking about more and more youth joining the youth in Asia.
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And we have to find creative ways to say this stuff so that we don't get in too much trouble here.
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You need to take a cold, hard look at your stance on youth in Asia.
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Oh, I don't care about them. They're conformists and they're communists.
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So we had done an episode previously on CDC statistics that were so shocking that they showed that 24%,
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so about one in four young women created a plan to join the youth in Asia,
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not over the course of their childhood, but in any given 12 month period.
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Like they have a reason to underplay this, right?
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And when we did that episode, the data that we had access to, that the public had access to, was from 2021.
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And everyone was like, well, that was during the COVID lockdowns.
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And being during the COVID lockdowns, I can understand why you might have higher rates, right?
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So let's go at the later numbers that have been released since then.
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What is the rate for girls now doing that?
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21%, only a 3% decline and still well over one in five young girls makes a plan to join the youth in Asia every 12 months period.
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Not over the course of her childhood in any given 12 months period.
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I would have honestly expected that it would be higher because I remember looking at some statistics around the pandemic that showed that people's rates of severe ideation of bad types increased right before school started or like as school started and actually went down over the summer and during breaks.
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They were like just less stressed and they were like just less stressed and they were not in school.
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Yeah, the existing school system is a torture chamber for children.
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Yeah, so I'm actually surprised that now that people are now forcibly back in school at higher rates, that they're actually doing a little better mentally.
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But I think there's also the effect of contagion when it comes to, you know, harmful social behaviors that include various forms of hurting yourself, not just the ultimate form.
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But I think that that might have been a thing during the pandemic, just because a lot of people were talking about it, that maybe that was what pushed it over the edge and made it higher than normal.
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Because a lot of people were just being overtly dramatic online because they had nothing else to do.
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And now people are a little bit more busy doing other things, like actually going to school.
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We'll see where there have been actual drops in the data.
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And I want to talk about all this in the context of, like, do you understand, you know, we have a, you know, people filming about us and reporting crews here all the time.
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Why don't you punish your kids the way everyone else is punishing their kids?
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Why don't you just send your kids to school like everyone else is sending their kids to school?
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Why do you do X and Y and Z that are all so weird and different?
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And it's like, if you knew that there was a cultural group and there was a, or, or a type of school system, right?
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And everyone was like, well, did you know that one in five, more than one in five girls in that school system is making a plan to join the youth in Asia?
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Or if they thought it was like a, an online social network or a social club, you know, if someone was like, oh, well, you know, one in five girls who joins the Girl Scouts wants to do this.
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People would be like, oh my gosh, it's a satanic cult, you know?
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I think that they say, I'm definitely like above all else, my child is not going into the Girl Scouts.
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Above all else, if there is a, there is a school around us that when kids go to it, one in five girls wants to end it on any given year, right?
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And I would point out that these rates are higher, see our episode on this, because people can be like, well, you know, this is for poor people or whatever.
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And it's like, no, actually use in Asia ideation among young girls is higher for young girls who grew up in higher income suburb environments than those who grow up in urban environments.
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And this isn't just, again, about literally trying to enter the afterlife early.
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This is also, you see rates of spoonies, which are people who often believe they have very serious medical conditions that they don't actually have, but that ultimately lead them to have very real symptoms that are torturous and awful.
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Those are, that is very much a new form of affluenza.
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You don't really see it happening with impoverished young girls that are resource strapped and watching their younger siblings and just trying to get by.
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You see it in middle class or upper middle class, bougie girls who have too much time on their hands.
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And, and I, I'd go further, you know, somebody who grew up adjacent to like the, you know, sort of elite boarding school scene and everything like that.
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Oh, those were the girls who, you know, did stuff.
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And, and, and unalived at, I, I, I bet if you could get the real statistics from a school like Andover or something like that, they'd probably be like twice the rate of your, your local public school.
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Anybody who goes or was in those networks knew you always heard about people unaliving themselves in these rooms of wider elite culture networks.
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And so when a lot of parents, they think, oh, I'm not, I'm, I'm doing the, the premium version, therefore my kid is safe.
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And I'm like, you must've not been at the previous premium version when you were a kid.
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Well, I think it's, I think it's really dangerous.
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And if one of our kids wants to, you know, try to get a scholarship to go to one of those, I'll be like, you, you, you can try, but.
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So in, in the little, the island city where I grew up in the Bay area called Alameda, there were two high schools.
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There was Entenel high school where I went and there was Alameda high school where the rich kids went.
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Like there was sort of the richer side of the island and then the not as rich side of the island.
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And the, the, the joke was that our students sold the drugs to the Alameda high school students.
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Like we were the drug dealers, they bought the drugs.
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And the, the like general sentiment was like, they had the, the mental health problems.
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We would see like the Alameda high school stamps on the books and they'd be from like 1983.
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Like, you know, 2005, it was bad Malcolm, but like, we really didn't have that many serious issues of mental health going around our high school.
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We didn't have stories of like people going through this or that, or, you know, really crashing out.
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Whereas that happened a lot at the other high school, which I think is really interesting, you know?
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So it's not, you're not even safe if you are, oh, just, I'll just keep my kid in public school then.
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No, there are also just school districts and general schools within the same school district that could be seeing this problem.
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But where I want to point that out is I get really worried when parents come to me and they're like, I found an out.
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I found a secret way that I don't need to worry about this.
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I send my child to a good classical Christian school and therefore everything's going to be okay.
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And I would bet if you did an analysis on good classical Christian schools and the rates of these things, they're going to be lower, but maybe like 3% lower.
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And it's because they fundamentally buy in to the wider cultural framework, which is leading to all of this.
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You can be like, well, they're, they're classical Christian.
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It's like the teachers, they're still all went to teacher education.
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And, and there's been some great whistleblowers on this of like what it's like training to be a teacher today.
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And they're like, they're like two out of eight classes have something to do with other than like woke propaganda.
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Remember I said, oh, would you let, before we get into the stats here, your kid join a group that you knew how to, you know, one in five chance of making a plan to join the youth in Asia.
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And then you look at like the most urban monoculture groups, like the trans community and stuff like that.
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And it's like for them, it's like 50%, 45%, right?
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You know, if that's the case, of course, I don't want my kid joining those communities.
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You know, another community that has really high rates.
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Isn't that worse than the trans community?
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No, that's a little bit less than the trans community, but still bad.
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I thought that they were like kind of known for being based and wealthy.
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I think both communities represent something that is fundamentally unified, which is disliking who you are enough to want to create a separate personality.
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It's a dissociative coping attempt that may not be as successful as one would hope.
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Like, so maybe the furries who have good furry local friend groups or online friend groups that they're like great and supportive, like they're fine.
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But then the furries who haven't really been able to tap into that are the ones who end up.
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I couldn't be a furry easily, not because I don't think that some anthro is hot.
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I can't be a furry easily because I never want to cover up my identity.
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You know, if you tell a young kid, if you find any anthro character you've ever seen attractive, that you are now a deviant furry and you might as well just join in that community.
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You know, you're putting your kids at significant risk because the reality is, is even if you, a parent, may have never seen anthro that you found hot or just don't find it hot at all.
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The reality is, is that statistically a huge chunk of the population, you know, like when like Lunatunes, whatever comes out and they made Lola Bunny.
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Lola Bunny was the, that's my first realization moment for so many people.
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Mainstream, right wing, like Christian influencers were like, how dare you make Lola Bunny less sexy?
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The point I'm making here is you want to tell me that everybody who can recognize that Lola Bunny is sexy and would be concerned about her being less sexy, they're all furries.
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And so now you're mainstream, you know, right wing influencers who all freaked out when that happened.
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That's why it's important to differentiate between random arousal pathways and, you know, going into.
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Actually acting on it and like identifying with it in a way that that's, that's very interesting.
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Yeah, well, no, it's, it's, it's, it's worrying because the parents, like, I'm gonna, you know, keep my kids out of the furry communities.
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And go back a little, a little earlier to the 1950s, like we talked about in our podcast.
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And, you know, maybe they had fewer anthro characters, but they were just, you know, doing things just in person with the donkeys, IRL, you know?
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It actually offered a perfect conservative, like trad, sexual, like a role was in that original one.
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I mean, she was wearing her swaddling hijab for most of that.
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I think Trump talked about Ilman Omar wearing a swaddling hijab.
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I just think it's a really funny derogatory way to refer to jobs.
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So persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness.
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If we're looking at all students, this went from 42% to 40%, barely a drop.
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This means that well over half of girls in school have persistent feelings of sadnessness or hopelessness.
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Do you have, I mean, in our marriage, persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness?
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Like, it's, it's really, it's not, it's not great.
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And I always approached all my challenges and puberty was like optimism.
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Maybe that's because you were being like macro dosed with testosterone and I was being macro
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dosed with, with estrogen before I figured out the solution, which was just to starve
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myself so much that my body stopped producing hormones permanently.
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I may not be able to have kids natural anymore, but I have the hormonal profile of a prepubesant
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Your psychological condition for a female, which is called sanity.
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Well, I mean, that's, I feel like it's, it's one of the best.
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The thing where you don't eat that, that female coping mechanism of youth.
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That one is great because while it does cause what I do have osteoporosis, persistent fertility
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issues, it does actually address the hormonal issues.
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Whereas like, you know, the other coping mechanisms don't, I guess, gender affirming
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care, youth, gender transition does kind of handle it, but our daughters are going to
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Like we intentionally, when you and I were like, oh, well, should we start with sons or
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Cause I'm not dealing with teenage girls setting the tone in our household.
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Though I do really feel like a big moderating factor on having very, very rough adolescent
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Every, every family that I know of a lot of children or people I know who, who went through
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their adolescence in large families came through a lot more mentally healthy.
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And I think that a lot of the danger, and maybe this is one of those reasons why you see
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a correlatory issue with like having leisure or wealth or some form of like affluence or
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abundance in, in youth correlating with these high rates of attempting to join the youth
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in Asia is when there's no space to get stuck in your head, you're going to be okay.
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It's the problem is that the demons are all in your head when you're in adolescence.
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And if you're allowed to just hang out with the demons, you're, you're screwed.
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Whereas if you're constantly being kicked by, you know, your seven-year-old brother and,
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you know, your other like 13 year old sister constantly steals all your little bras and
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stuffing them and taking them to school and you have to fight with her.
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And, and, you know, if, if you are, you're also waking up in the middle of the night to
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help your parents with your parents with an infant, you don't have space to get angsty and,
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and, and, and think about hurting yourself.
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You know, you're too busy trying to kill your siblings out of rage.
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The rage takes over and it's a beautiful thing.
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I think being in a large family, you're not going to be affected one by external culture
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And it's the forced hardship, which is something we talk about sort of separately about how
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we think it's just so important to have some version of hardship and youth.
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And you don't have to manufacture hardship for affluent youth.
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If you have it built in through the form of a large family, which just creates hardship
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We see it with our kids because our kids have to navigate feelings of, of unfairness
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or violation or having to put others first, which is really hard for kids every single
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And, and here I'm going to note something because I've been looking ahead in the statistics
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and we're going to need to have a hypothesis around this, which is that from COVID to not
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COVID lockdown, female rates of unhappiness, joining the euthanasia, everything declines
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I think, I think we're going back to my, my original hypothesis, which is this is a social
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I think that during the pandemic just became vogue to talk about this and that after the
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And also like girls had more things to gossip and titter about when they were seeing each
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And so there, there wasn't as much need to get attention and gossip about entering the
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Um, so seriously thought about joining the euthanasia, um, females, this was 30% in COVID
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I mean, like if we're talking about school shooters, for example, and it's like, well,
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you know, like you'd be like, oh, I'm getting my kid out of that school.
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Like it's, I don't know why we're so, we talk so much more about our children being at risk
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of being hurt by other people when like, just like with murder rates, right?
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Like most murders and kidnappings are performed by like family members or inside the house
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or people, you know, and the, who do you know, who do you spend the most time with in your
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The, you know, the calls coming from inside the house, like the most inside part of it.
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And with males, it was 14% in, in, in both periods.
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Also keep in mind how low it is for males compared to females, 14 to 27%, right?
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And, you know, everybody knows life is worse for young men these days in terms of the bias
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they face in from, from teachers, from society.
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Young men are like, they just really want to bang someone, right?
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Like this is the worst thing that happens to them in youth, right?
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They become a little rebellious and they really need sex.
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Girls, it's, man, it's, it's, it's, it's different and it's dark.
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If only that were my problem in youth, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't have the bones of an aged woman.
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So for the, we, where we went over the made a plan.
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And I think your enemy within thing is right.
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The urban monoculture, which defines your purpose around seeking self-validation and pleasure,
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is going to spread more within female communities because they are much more interested in conforming
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And I think they might have even become more conformist to the general social pressure over
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COVID because now it's not just their friend group that's, that's pressuring them.
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It's the online juggernaut that's pressuring them.
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Attempted actually didn't go down post COVID for women.
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So what it may be is we're actually seeing a decrease in the sort of histionic.
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I'm going to do it behavior and not actual rates.
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Whereas for men, it went down 1%, which is statistically irrelevant.
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Part of me is like, I trust men when they say it.
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Also, like when you look at the successful execution of early exit, men follow through.
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I thought it was men that just got the job done.
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But contrast the male attempt rate, which was 6%, versus the male percent rate that said
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they seriously considered it, which was 14%.
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Because a female attempt is not always an actual attempt.
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It might just be the communication of the drama, okay?
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So, you're saying women are histionic drama queens that will attempt to make it look like
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they want to end their lives for attention.
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You know, everyone in high school is talking about it.
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You're trying to get attention and love and people to care and worry about you because
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But everyone's talking about it and how depressed and sad they are.
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You have no choice but to show how you're actually serious when you're competing with
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everyone for attention on this one trendy issue.
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So, the only way that you can demonstrate your seriousness is to actually show an attempt
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You know, to actually be taken out of school for several days so that people talk about you
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And there are very easy ways to do this where you know it's not really going to...
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But, you know, you can still work yourself up and, you know, get...
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I'm not saying that, like, girls who are doing it performatively aren't hurting themselves
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and also very, very miserable and actually kind of really thinking about it.
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I was also just thinking about the movie The Heathers where a major plot theme is that
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unaliving yourself becomes trendy in school because it's actually a chain of murders.
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But the male character in that had a very similar sort of persona to the one that I had in high
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school, which is funny in terms of, like, the way he acted and dressed and everything,
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You're just trying to be, like, a little effete while also being very irreverent.
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No, that was very much the arbitrage game that you played in that.
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And break rules for the sake of breaking rules, you know, whatever.
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So many rules I broke at that time in my life, like, literally only because I broke rules.
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I remember, like, back then I used to smoke and then I stopped smoking the minute it was
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People in my family seem pretty resistant to nicotine addictions.
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People in my family are very susceptible to alcohol addiction.
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Fire water gets you guys, but not the, not the peace pipe.
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So not that kind of, but, but my mom, if you didn't know, was actually addicted to
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And the only reason I even remember this is because I remember why she stopped, which
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is apparently in like kindergarten when we were supposed to make, you know, like little
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A holder, like a little, you know, and seeing that it like got to her and she's like,
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So she, wait, that implies that she might've smoked through her pregnancies.
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Because a lot of, a lot of women just stop smoking because like, even men, like a lot
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of men, when they do quit smoking, it's because they've been hospitalized for a series of days
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And they're like, well, I guess this is the time I get cold turkey, you know, the first
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So I figured that she would have stayed cold turkey.
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I do not have any explicit memory of her ever smoking in my entire life.
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Maybe she, I honestly imagine that she did it just for the aesthetics.
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I mean, we've, we've talked about this in so many episodes, but you know, just to go
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over, when you define your purpose in life, as is a search for pleasure and self-affirmation,
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you feel and experience everything that is fundamentally good that you are creating in
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this universe from your perspective, because that's how you've defined your own purpose.
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And there just isn't that much positive feeling to life, especially when you're a teenager.
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And here's why I think also you saw more of a spike in this form of ideation during the
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pandemic, especially is because I listen to a lot more leftist content than you do.
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A very, very common theme is just like, oh, this world is just so hard to live in.
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Like, that's the problem is we're having a blast.
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But it is a very, very, very common message in the mainstream urban monoculture.
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And for that reason, I think it's even easier to begin thinking along those lines.
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You see this crop up with antinatalism as well.
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And people think about bringing a new life into the world.
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We often hear it, too, of like, oh, how could I bring a life into a world that's so horrible?
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But this also has to do with people's existing lives and can influence people's tendencies
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Yeah, I think that you're putting on something really important here.
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And we talked about it in our, you know, the seductiveness of nihilism, right?
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Like, being the nihilistic person is an easy social hack to look cool within any context,
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If I come into a room and I'm, like, unbridledly enthusiastic about something and somebody else
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You know, they've now scored, like, a social point on me.
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Unless that's actively punished or I just look at them.
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And I, by the way, that's one of those, like, moves.
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I imagine people who enjoy watching sports, like, there are certain moves that they just
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hate that people do to, like, get a ball from someone or I don't know.
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But, like, when girls do it for, like, their version of girl nagging, like, a guy being
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like, oh, like, well, I got us a reservation at this restaurant.
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Or, like, they just act not impressed by everything because they think that makes them
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But this is another version of that when people are like, oh, the world's just so terrible.
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I mean, it just doesn't make you look good to a certain community is the thing.
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Especially of women, especially of urban monoculture types.
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This idea of your status in part coming from how distressed you are, how much of a victim
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you are, your own weakness, as we've pointed out.
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You know, you can either see the world through strength or you can see it through.
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And the urban monoculture elevates a group or individual based on how disadvantaged they
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are in the perspective of the urban monoculture.
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You know, how many disabilities they have, how hard it is for them to get through an average
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And so, you know, if you're some white middle class chick and you're hearing this, you're
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now like, you know, this is where its foodies come from.
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You're now like, oh, I got to invent all this for myself.
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And as, as you and I have pointed out, people like women, young women see our episode.
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If you're interested, it's, it's something like they crave the dystopia.
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Women are sort of programmed to want to live in a dystopia.
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And you see this through the literature that they read, like dystopian literature is very,
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And if you read about the lives of young females, just a couple of generations ago in that episode,
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we went through Simone's grandmother's war diaries, you know, living in France under occupation.
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It was a, like, like they were living through and you go back.
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They're driving out of Paris and the roads are backed up and the, the Nazis are literally dropping bombs on the roads as cars are fleeing.
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She, at one point, had like a pickup truck flip over her as she was hiding in a ditch by the side of the road.
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And the only reason she was spared was because she was like inside the indentation of the ditch, like horrible things.
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And, you know, they wander into abandoned villages and she goes into a, like a restaurant or bar trying to find, you know,
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someone to like get food from and just finds a dead body there.
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And like walks back to where her parents were and just doesn't say anything.
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Not, not even just, ooh, spooky, dystopia, that kind of, you know, just horrible.
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And it was the same way you go back to the Great Depression.
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You go back to Europe during that time period, the same.
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Women are genetically optimized to grow up in a dystopia.
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And when they do not have an external oppressor, they create a fictionalized oppressive force in their lives.
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Actually, I want to think about this concept more.
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How can we structurally create something that helps our daughters not do this to themselves?
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Talk of siblings, a large family, it's built in.
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I think that it is still possible without traditions and contextualizations to intergenerationally prevent this.
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And the way that I would do it is to frame our family as a discriminated group by the dominant culture and society, the urban monoculture, right?
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And say that, you know, they will fight against us at every turn.
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They will make your life harder at every turn because of who you are.
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There is an active conspiracy against us, which there is.
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There is an active array of forces aligned against us, right?
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I think another thing is to maybe create a holiday around this, right?
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The idea that young women will create fictionalized self-oppression when they do not face it in their life.
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And I think that the – how would you structure a holiday to really hammer that home?
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I want to consult the holidays that other Basecamp community members have shared with us that they've built on their own.
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Because we're not the only ones who believe in culture crafting, as it just so happens.
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I think some of them have come up with some interesting rites of passage.
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Well, somebody had a past day that I really liked.
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Maybe we could do something where, like, the past day is actually, like, a two-day thing.
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Every week you do a meal from, like, a different period in the past.
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And you talk about the challenges of living in that period and how horrible it actually was to be alive during that period.
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And how – and then reflect on how lucky we are for the society and world we live in and think with shame on the people who act differently.
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We can do this over Thanksgiving as an alternative to Thanksgiving because Thanksgiving sucks on the holiday.
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And then you get a week of unique dishes as well.
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It ain't a holiday if they're in special food decorations.
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Our kids would probably be into it considering their taste in food.
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I think the biggest thing is the urban monoculture.
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Well, and you still actually have a very, very long history of affluent girls living in abundance,
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And calling it different things, sometimes calling it religious devotion,
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sometimes calling it the sickness that they just report that isn't real.
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I agree with you that it is not exclusively the urban monoculture.
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I think that the urban monoculture can, however, explain outsized variants
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and unique differences in some periods of time.
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The larger picture is that people need a reason to live.
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It's not enough to just be like, oh, I'm happy.
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I think a lot of people only understand why they don't want to die
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When living is not the default or it doesn't feel like the default,
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they suddenly are really happy about not dying.
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And I think maybe actually another issue that could be insufficiently discussed,
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and this can go back to holidays and also making Halloween more about El Dia de los Muertos,
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And I think a lot of people don't even really understand the meaning of how short their lives are
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and how tenuous their lives are and how quickly everything can just end
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How can we go to show our kids a dead human body?
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I'm sure if you have a lot of, like, if you have good connections, probably.
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But even just talking with Octavian on Monday, like, when it came up that, like,
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I'm going to die and he's going to die, and he really started wrapping his head around it,
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He definitely came away from the conversation.
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They used to have their kids, like, stand over graves.
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Yeah, I wonder if that's maybe also one of the reasons why people held open casket funerals.
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You know, it's not necessarily to just honor the dead or, like, have closure in some way
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that would really freak me out, but, like, rather to be like, no, look at it.
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I think we should make a holiday for our family around showing the kids dead bodies
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Or we could do the thing that, like, you know, the depressed South Koreans do,
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where, you know, we make them, they write their will, and they lie in a casket and think about
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I wonder if that kind of makes people into it, make them want to go ahead and do it.
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Well, that's my thoughts on that, which is to say this is not an artifact caused by COVID.
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The system really is that bad, and stay the F away.
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You have had kids for nothing if you then throw them in the grinder, right?
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These days, Malcolm has given you one slice of what normal means.
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And given those rates of interest and departing from the world so prematurely, normal's not good.
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Anything that's not freakishly weird now is very worrisome.
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I have the other half of the bulldog, but I know this was with the larger- I don't know how to pronounce the noodle things.
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I was like, what is- I think it's because we- you asked me in subsequent batches to make- to chop the medicinal pieces.
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I mean, it doesn't have any chicken in it, for one.
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It, I think, was the one that we made that wasn't actually bulldog, but it was meant to be made by itself without cheese.
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Do you want me to toss the rest of it, or do you want me to prepare it differently?
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I think you just don't want- you don't- dude, if it doesn't work-
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Prepare it without cheese, or a little bit of cheddar, and cook it longer.
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It was, like, really mushy when it needs to be a little bit hard.
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Okay, so you want to dry it out, and then- so I'll dry it out, and it, like, in the air fryer, like, sort of bake it for a while, and then at the very end, I'll melt cheese- cheddar cheese on top.
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It's fine to eat, by the way, because, yeah, well, it's not as tasty, because it doesn't have chicken or the mushrooms.
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And if you have cheese, you have a little more protein.
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I was just learning recently about someone who died at age, like, 32 of a sudden aneurysm left kids behind and stuff.
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So now I'm like, oh, God, I got to get you healthy.
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Got to get your blood pressure perfect and keep you alive forever.
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And are you, like, taking all your vitamins every day?
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Mm, I have not refilled our two-week little flipper thing for you in more than two weeks now, so.
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I shouldn't have to do every- I can't, like, throw pills into your mouth.
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If his way of saying I love you is, I love you and I don't want you to die.
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But I think this is also because I constantly am like, Torsten, don't jump off the bed like that.
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And he just assumes that it's, like, this platitude of, like, oh, yes, and a good day to you, too.
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Yeah, I just think it's a thing you say sometimes.
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You could even throw in some peppers or something to mix it up a bit.
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Actually, why don't you just try sauteing it with shishito peppers?
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Okay, and then I guess at the very end, I can throw it in the air fryer and then.
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I can also sprinkle shredded, very finely shredded cheddar cheese on after plating it.
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Thank you, and I love you, and goodbye, and don't die.
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Thank you for this great wife and not wanting to die all the time, because that would be really sad.
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Okay, by the way, did you get to RFAB's deck in counter reviewing that?
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Before we, you know, start, because you don't want to trigger too many content filters.
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Termination rates, unaliving is the word most people use.
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But except if I were an obvious not retard at Google, I would include unaliving as one of
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You can't use the term that everyone uses, you know, that, that's, what did they call
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The, the euphemism treadmill, treadmill, that's not, no, no, we had to rise above.
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Google seems okay with the euphemism treadmill.
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Well, I, I, I like your euthanasia thing, so we'll just call them the euthanasia, okay?
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If we knew that they'd be joining the euthanasia.
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I just saw a thing, you know, Cobicular, he has a scale at his house for when women come
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in, uh, and if you don't have a hundred body bags and necks, you get kicked out, you'd
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That is exactly where you could be if you want to have an athlete's body, but also carefully
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and like successfully healthily carry pregnancies.
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I, I, I had a DEXA scan to actually check because I was like, I want to be an exact minimum
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of body weight that I can have while I was being pregnant.
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But I like that about you because I am disgusted by fat.
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No, I have a, a, a pretty strong natural aversion to it.
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It's just like some people are turned off by, you know, big butts.
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Some people are turned off by small butts.
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Some people are turned on by excess body fat, as we know, because the entire Hays movement,
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the body positivity for women wasn't invented by women trying to look good.
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So that's one of the things you actually pointed out in your book, the pragmatist guide
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to sexuality, that people under index on just appealing to the people who find you
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attractive, um, that, that we just need to, like, if you are, for example, rotund, look
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If you are a bony hag, like, filter out dudes who are into that by being like, I'm just a
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I also, you know, cause I sent you that clip of the, the mom and her daughter looking at
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filter, like Instagram filters of them that turn them into men.
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And I realized, and I texted you this on what's up this morning, but I was like, oh my God,
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like before any woman is allowed to date, she should look at a filter of her as a man.
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I'm like, this is the level of, of man you could get because in, in the clip that I sent
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you, it showed like, you know, a woman who was like, I don't know what an eight or something
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And like, as a man, she looked really good.
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And then the camera pans over to her mom, who's not an eight and she saw what she looked
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And I think she would be the type of woman who would expect an eight plus, you know, who
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would expect a man who's really attractive and she would never give a second glance to
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a man who looked like she did under that filter.
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And I think that was part of what led her to start screaming expletives, et cetera, because
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like she had, would have deep disrespect for a man who looked, Oh my God, Christina, you
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And then that's how AI is going to help the dating game.
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You know, like, yeah, dating app that before you sign up, you have to see.
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A dating app that only allowed you to see the gender bent version of them.
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And they're like, well, I guess if they look kind of like me, then all women are beautiful.
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Every time I look in a mirror, our girls are gorgeous.
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It's great that my like body dysmorphia doesn't pass on to them because I know some others really
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take it out on their, you know, girls are like, oh, you have to look beautiful.
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Because, because they themselves feel ugly.
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Whereas like, no, I'm like, damn, like you're beautiful.
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That's like a microscopic shock absorber, forcing any crack to zigzag.
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Every time Fiona went to a different room, a strange lady was there waiting.
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Because her bones are white, but her bones are teeth.
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Below the manger, the engineering spaces feel like they're different.
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They may have different tissues that originate from the etuderm, the otteros embryonic germ layer.
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While both contain mineralized tissues, it comes from the mesodermal germ layer.
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It's like bone, which is found from the mesodermal germ layer.
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They look a lot like bones because they're enamelized.