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00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today.

00:00:01.920 Today, we are going to be talking about more and more youth joining the youth in Asia.

00:00:09.720 And we have to find creative ways to say this stuff so that we don't get in too much trouble here.

00:00:15.720 You need to take a cold, hard look at your stance on youth in Asia.

00:00:19.840 Oh, I don't care about them. They're conformists and they're communists.

00:00:24.000 Who?

00:00:24.500 The youth in Asia.

00:00:26.180 The people who opt in to the afterlife early.

00:00:30.000 Yes, speed running life.

00:00:32.780 Yes.

00:00:33.200 The speed running generation.

00:00:35.340 So we had done an episode previously on CDC statistics that were so shocking that they showed that 24%,

00:00:45.440 so about one in four young women created a plan to join the youth in Asia,

00:00:52.600 not over the course of their childhood, but in any given 12 month period.

00:00:58.640 This is insane.

00:00:59.320 That's insane.

00:01:00.480 And this is CDC, right?

00:01:02.040 Like they have a reason to underplay this, right?

00:01:04.620 So I did that episode.

00:01:07.520 And when we did that episode, the data that we had access to, that the public had access to, was from 2021.

00:01:14.760 And everyone was like, well, that was during the COVID lockdowns.

00:01:19.920 And being during the COVID lockdowns, I can understand why you might have higher rates, right?

00:01:27.640 So let's go at the later numbers that have been released since then.

00:01:33.840 And the latest we have is 2023 data. 0.99

00:01:35.840 What is the rate for girls now doing that? 0.99

00:01:40.140 Hmm.

00:01:40.700 21%, only a 3% decline and still well over one in five young girls makes a plan to join the youth in Asia every 12 months period.

00:01:55.140 Not over the course of her childhood in any given 12 months period.

00:01:58.720 That actually surprises me.

00:02:00.800 I would have honestly expected that it would be higher because I remember looking at some statistics around the pandemic that showed that people's rates of severe ideation of bad types increased right before school started or like as school started and actually went down over the summer and during breaks.

00:02:20.320 They were like just less stressed and they were like just less stressed and they were not in school.

00:02:23.120 Yeah, the existing school system is a torture chamber for children.

00:02:24.820 Yeah, so I'm actually surprised that now that people are now forcibly back in school at higher rates, that they're actually doing a little better mentally.

00:02:31.700 That's interesting.

00:02:33.360 Yeah.

00:02:33.620 But I think there's also the effect of contagion when it comes to, you know, harmful social behaviors that include various forms of hurting yourself, not just the ultimate form.

00:02:45.240 But I think that that might have been a thing during the pandemic, just because a lot of people were talking about it, that maybe that was what pushed it over the edge and made it higher than normal.

00:02:56.380 Because a lot of people were just being overtly dramatic online because they had nothing else to do.

00:03:00.880 And now people are a little bit more busy doing other things, like actually going to school.

00:03:05.820 Well, we can talk about it.

00:03:06.800 We can look at the differential rates.

00:03:08.560 Okay.

00:03:09.300 Which we will explore.

00:03:10.520 We'll see where there have been actual drops in the data.

00:03:13.580 And I want to talk about all this in the context of, like, do you understand, you know, we have a, you know, people filming about us and reporting crews here all the time.

00:03:26.660 And they're like, why are you guys so weird?

00:03:28.860 Like, why do you do this in a weird way?

00:03:30.620 Why don't you punish your kids the way everyone else is punishing their kids?

00:03:33.620 Why don't you just send your kids to school like everyone else is sending their kids to school?

00:03:37.360 Why do you do X and Y and Z that are all so weird and different?

00:03:42.460 And it's like, if you knew that there was a cultural group and there was a, or, or a type of school system, right?

00:03:54.160 Like around you. 1.00

00:03:55.200 And everyone was like, well, did you know that one in five, more than one in five girls in that school system is making a plan to join the youth in Asia? 1.00

00:04:03.880 Or if they thought it was like a, an online social network or a social club, you know, if someone was like, oh, well, you know, one in five girls who joins the Girl Scouts wants to do this.

00:04:13.280 People would be like, oh my gosh, it's a satanic cult, you know?

00:04:15.920 I think that they say, I'm definitely like above all else, my child is not going into the Girl Scouts.

00:04:21.500 Yeah.

00:04:21.680 Or if it were like a school district, right?

00:04:23.960 They'd be like, oh, I'm moving out of there.

00:04:25.260 Like whatever it takes to save my girl.

00:04:27.300 You know, this is, this is huge.

00:04:29.460 Above all else, if there is a, there is a school around us that when kids go to it, one in five girls wants to end it on any given year, right?

00:04:44.520 That school is every school.

00:04:47.100 That is the culture that we are in right now.

00:04:49.680 That school is called school.

00:04:52.480 School.

00:04:53.000 And I would point out that these rates are higher, see our episode on this, because people can be like, well, you know, this is for poor people or whatever.

00:05:02.000 And it's like, no, actually use in Asia ideation among young girls is higher for young girls who grew up in higher income suburb environments than those who grow up in urban environments.

00:05:14.780 And this isn't just, again, about literally trying to enter the afterlife early.

00:05:19.740 This is also, you see rates of spoonies, which are people who often believe they have very serious medical conditions that they don't actually have, but that ultimately lead them to have very real symptoms that are torturous and awful.

00:05:33.220 Those are, that is very much a new form of affluenza.

00:05:37.040 You don't really see it happening with impoverished young girls that are resource strapped and watching their younger siblings and just trying to get by.

00:05:45.060 You see it in middle class or upper middle class, bougie girls who have too much time on their hands.

00:05:51.540 Yeah.

00:05:51.840 And, and I, I'd go further, you know, somebody who grew up adjacent to like the, you know, sort of elite boarding school scene and everything like that.

00:05:59.100 Oh, those were the girls who, you know, did stuff.

00:06:02.200 And, and, and unalived at, I, I, I bet if you could get the real statistics from a school like Andover or something like that, they'd probably be like twice the rate of your, your local public school.

00:06:15.360 And it's just the culture in these places.

00:06:17.660 Anybody who goes or was in those networks knew you always heard about people unaliving themselves in these rooms of wider elite culture networks.

00:06:26.120 And so when a lot of parents, they think, oh, I'm not, I'm, I'm doing the, the premium version, therefore my kid is safe.

00:06:32.940 And I'm like, you must've not been at the previous premium version when you were a kid.

00:06:38.480 That's where all the cocaine is.

00:06:40.020 Right.

00:06:40.300 You know,

00:06:40.580 Well, I think it's, I think it's really dangerous.

00:06:44.700 I think it's really dangerous.

00:06:45.480 And if one of our kids wants to, you know, try to get a scholarship to go to one of those, I'll be like, you, you, you can try, but.

00:06:49.960 Well, even, even on a more micro level.

00:06:51.860 So in, in the little, the island city where I grew up in the Bay area called Alameda, there were two high schools.

00:06:57.520 There was Entenel high school where I went and there was Alameda high school where the rich kids went.

00:07:01.840 Like there was sort of the richer side of the island and then the not as rich side of the island.

00:07:06.580 And the, the, the joke was that our students sold the drugs to the Alameda high school students.

00:07:13.460 Like we were the drug dealers, they bought the drugs.

00:07:15.500 And the, the like general sentiment was like, they had the, the mental health problems.

00:07:21.620 We also got their old textbooks.

00:07:23.240 This is how poor we were as a high school.

00:07:25.120 We would see like the Alameda high school stamps on the books and they'd be from like 1983.

00:07:30.340 Like, you know, 2005, it was bad Malcolm, but like, we really didn't have that many serious issues of mental health going around our high school.

00:07:38.360 We didn't have stories of like people going through this or that, or, you know, really crashing out.

00:07:42.900 Whereas that happened a lot at the other high school, which I think is really interesting, you know?

00:07:47.260 So it's not, you're not even safe if you are, oh, just, I'll just keep my kid in public school then.

00:07:53.360 No, there are also just school districts and general schools within the same school district that could be seeing this problem.

00:08:02.320 But where I want to point that out is I get really worried when parents come to me and they're like, I found an out.

00:08:08.940 I found a secret way that I don't need to worry about this.

00:08:12.620 I send my child to a good classical Christian school and therefore everything's going to be okay.

00:08:19.340 And I would bet if you did an analysis on good classical Christian schools and the rates of these things, they're going to be lower, but maybe like 3% lower.

00:08:29.140 No, that's still at horrifying levels.

00:08:32.260 And it's because they fundamentally buy in to the wider cultural framework, which is leading to all of this.

00:08:41.860 And I mean, this is a problem.

00:08:43.740 You can be like, well, they're, they're classical Christian.

00:08:45.800 It's like the teachers, they're still all went to teacher education. 0.99

00:08:49.520 That's like four years of brainwashing.

00:08:51.720 Right.

00:08:51.920 And, and there's been some great whistleblowers on this of like what it's like training to be a teacher today.

00:08:58.580 And they're like, they're like two out of eight classes have something to do with other than like woke propaganda.

00:09:05.260 And this is coming from the wokeness.

00:09:07.060 Remember I said, oh, would you let, before we get into the stats here, your kid join a group that you knew how to, you know, one in five chance of making a plan to join the youth in Asia.

00:09:16.020 Right.

00:09:16.780 And then you look at like the most urban monoculture groups, like the trans community and stuff like that.

00:09:22.440 And it's like for them, it's like 50%, 45%, right?

00:09:26.420 Like a coin flips chance.

00:09:28.580 You know, if that's the case, of course, I don't want my kid joining those communities.

00:09:33.780 Right.

00:09:34.240 Yeah.

00:09:34.360 Seriously, guys.

00:09:35.620 Stay away from these communities.

00:09:37.560 You know, another community that has really high rates.

00:09:41.080 No. 1.00

00:09:42.220 Furries. 1.00

00:09:43.360 They're at around, I think, 35 to 40%. 1.00

00:09:46.660 Furries. 1.00

00:09:48.260 Isn't that worse than the trans community? 1.00

00:09:50.500 No, that's a little bit less than the trans community, but still bad. 1.00

00:09:53.440 That's surprising. 1.00

00:09:55.560 I thought that they were like kind of known for being based and wealthy.

00:10:01.100 I think both communities represent something that is fundamentally unified, which is disliking who you are enough to want to create a separate personality.

00:10:12.700 That you can interact with the world through.

00:10:14.740 Oh, yeah.

00:10:15.560 It's a dissociative coping attempt that may not be as successful as one would hope.

00:10:23.460 Right.

00:10:23.840 Yeah.

00:10:24.380 So like.

00:10:24.800 Like, so maybe the furries who have good furry local friend groups or online friend groups that they're like great and supportive, like they're fine.

00:10:32.300 But then the furries who haven't really been able to tap into that are the ones who end up.

00:10:37.880 No, I think it's okay.

00:10:40.080 Why could I never be a furry?

00:10:43.540 Right.

00:10:43.860 I couldn't be a furry easily, not because I don't think that some anthro is hot.

00:10:49.440 I can't be a furry easily because I never want to cover up my identity.

00:10:52.420 I'm too proud of who I am.

00:10:54.220 And I think that this is important.

00:10:55.900 You know, if you tell a young kid, if you find any anthro character you've ever seen attractive, that you are now a deviant furry and you might as well just join in that community.

00:11:05.320 You know, you're putting your kids at significant risk because the reality is, is even if you, a parent, may have never seen anthro that you found hot or just don't find it hot at all.

00:11:20.040 The reality is, is that statistically a huge chunk of the population, you know, like when like Lunatunes, whatever comes out and they made Lola Bunny.

00:11:29.620 Lunatunes?

00:11:30.940 No, remember they made Lola Bunny less sexy.

00:11:33.100 No, yeah.

00:11:33.400 Lola Bunny was the, that's my first realization moment for so many people.

00:11:38.280 Mainstream, right wing, like Christian influencers were like, how dare you make Lola Bunny less sexy?

00:11:45.900 Now you want to tell me.

00:11:47.000 Everyone loves Lola Bunny.

00:11:48.200 Yeah, come on.

00:11:48.920 Don't come for her.

00:11:50.080 The point I'm making here is you want to tell me that everybody who can recognize that Lola Bunny is sexy and would be concerned about her being less sexy, they're all furries.

00:12:01.860 And so now you're mainstream, you know, right wing influencers who all freaked out when that happened.

00:12:06.720 That's why it's important to differentiate between random arousal pathways and, you know, going into. 0.60

00:12:14.500 Actually acting on it and like identifying with it in a way that that's, that's very interesting.

00:12:18.480 Yeah, well, no, it's, it's, it's, it's worrying because the parents, like, I'm gonna, you know, keep my kids out of the furry communities.

00:12:26.200 I only show them Disney movies from the 1980s.

00:12:29.040 And I'm like, you mean like Robin Hood?

00:12:31.540 I want to tell you how a lot of those furries.

00:12:34.280 No one's safe.

00:12:35.700 Yeah.

00:12:35.880 I owe my life to you, my darling.

00:12:39.360 I couldn't have lived without you, Robin.

00:12:43.240 So, so true.

00:12:44.280 A lot of those furries found out about this.

00:12:46.540 Yeah.

00:12:46.860 Yeah.

00:12:47.740 Yeah.

00:12:48.220 And go back a little, a little earlier to the 1950s, like we talked about in our podcast.

00:12:51.920 And, you know, maybe they had fewer anthro characters, but they were just, you know, doing things just in person with the donkeys, IRL, you know?

00:12:59.560 It was funny, it was made Marianne.

00:13:02.120 It actually offered a perfect conservative, like trad, sexual, like a role was in that original one.

00:13:10.560 Like in all other respects.

00:13:12.260 Yeah.

00:13:12.280 I mean, she was wearing her swaddling hijab for most of that.

00:13:15.260 Wasn't she?

00:13:16.000 Her, what is that?

00:13:17.520 Shearing a veil.

00:13:18.460 I'm just referring to.

00:13:19.740 I think Trump talked about Ilman Omar wearing a swaddling hijab.

00:13:24.900 I just think it's a really funny derogatory way to refer to jobs.

00:13:31.380 Anyway.

00:13:32.100 Anyway, anyway, to get started here.

00:13:34.700 So persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness.

00:13:37.960 Okay.

00:13:38.220 If we're looking at all students, this went from 42% to 40%, barely a drop.

00:13:46.160 For female, 57% to 53%.

00:13:48.220 For male, 28% to 28%. 1.00

00:13:51.600 So no change in males. 1.00

00:13:52.840 Let's see if this pattern persists. 1.00

00:13:54.380 Now for females here, right? 1.00

00:13:57.140 I actually want to focus on this.

00:13:59.300 This means that well over half of girls in school have persistent feelings of sadnessness or hopelessness.

00:14:06.720 Okay.

00:14:07.660 This is not normal.

00:14:09.440 No, Malcolm.

00:14:10.660 Clearly, you've never been a teenage girl.

00:14:12.440 Shime in the comments, girl. 0.99

00:14:14.420 You know, we all just want to die.

00:14:19.720 It's true.

00:14:20.160 Do you have that these days?

00:14:21.580 Do you have, I mean, in our marriage, persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness?

00:14:25.820 Oh, no.

00:14:26.620 No, not since having kids.

00:14:28.960 No.

00:14:30.820 Puberty is rough, Malcolm.

00:14:32.040 You just don't understand.

00:14:32.900 Like, it's, it's really, it's not, it's not great.

00:14:37.520 And I always approached all my challenges and puberty was like optimism.

00:14:41.200 I was like, yeah.

00:14:41.960 Yeah.

00:14:42.300 Maybe that's because you were being like macro dosed with testosterone and I was being macro

00:14:47.280 dosed with, with estrogen before I figured out the solution, which was just to starve

00:14:52.340 myself so much that my body stopped producing hormones permanently.

00:14:55.940 And I fixed it.

00:14:57.480 I fixed it, Malcolm.

00:14:58.920 I may not be able to have kids natural anymore, but I have the hormonal profile of a prepubesant

00:15:03.060 male.

00:15:03.440 So everything's okay.

00:15:05.500 Maybe that's the only way. 0.66

00:15:06.660 Your psychological condition for a female, which is called sanity. 0.66

00:15:11.960 Well, I mean, that's, I feel like it's, it's one of the best.

00:15:15.200 How do I, what, how do I not use this word?

00:15:17.580 The thing where you don't eat that, that female coping mechanism of youth. 1.00

00:15:21.940 That one is great because while it does cause what I do have osteoporosis, persistent fertility 1.00

00:15:28.300 issues, it does actually address the hormonal issues. 1.00

00:15:31.620 Like it does take it away being a woman. 1.00

00:15:33.740 Yeah. 1.00

00:15:34.360 So it takes the problem away.

00:15:36.240 Whereas like, you know, the other coping mechanisms don't, I guess, gender affirming

00:15:40.860 care, youth, gender transition does kind of handle it, but our daughters are going to 1.00

00:15:44.940 be a nightmare when they go through puberty.

00:15:46.920 This is why we had sons first.

00:15:48.760 Like we intentionally, when you and I were like, oh, well, should we start with sons or

00:15:52.440 daughters?

00:15:53.080 I was like, well, we're starting with sons.

00:15:55.120 Cause I'm not dealing with teenage girls setting the tone in our household.

00:15:58.440 Though I do really feel like a big moderating factor on having very, very rough adolescent

00:16:04.960 years is being in a small household.

00:16:08.260 Every, every family that I know of a lot of children or people I know who, who went through

00:16:14.800 their adolescence in large families came through a lot more mentally healthy.

00:16:19.500 And I think that a lot of the danger, and maybe this is one of those reasons why you see

00:16:23.460 a correlatory issue with like having leisure or wealth or some form of like affluence or

00:16:30.020 abundance in, in youth correlating with these high rates of attempting to join the youth

00:16:35.020 in Asia is when there's no space to get stuck in your head, you're going to be okay.

00:16:42.200 It's the problem is that the demons are all in your head when you're in adolescence. 0.99

00:16:46.580 And if you're allowed to just hang out with the demons, you're, you're screwed. 0.98

00:16:51.400 They're going to take you over. 0.99

00:16:52.700 It's like demonic possession.

00:16:54.160 Whereas if you're constantly being kicked by, you know, your seven-year-old brother and,

00:16:59.600 you know, your other like 13 year old sister constantly steals all your little bras and 1.00

00:17:03.620 stuffing them and taking them to school and you have to fight with her. 1.00

00:17:06.480 And, and, you know, if, if you are, you're also waking up in the middle of the night to

00:17:09.420 help your parents with your parents with an infant, you don't have space to get angsty and,

00:17:16.620 and, and, and think about hurting yourself. 0.95

00:17:19.280 You know, you're too busy trying to kill your siblings out of rage. 0.90

00:17:22.900 The rage takes over and it's a beautiful thing.

00:17:25.900 Yeah.

00:17:26.900 Yeah.

00:17:27.900 All right.

00:17:29.340 Sorry.

00:17:30.280 I think it's true.

00:17:31.460 I think it's true.

00:17:31.980 I think being in a large family, you're not going to be affected one by external culture

00:17:35.500 as much.

00:17:36.520 And it's the forced hardship, which is something we talk about sort of separately about how

00:17:39.980 we think it's just so important to have some version of hardship and youth.

00:17:43.540 And you don't have to manufacture hardship for affluent youth.

00:17:47.660 If you have it built in through the form of a large family, which just creates hardship

00:17:52.660 every single day.

00:17:53.380 We see it with our kids because our kids have to navigate feelings of, of unfairness

00:17:58.220 or violation or having to put others first, which is really hard for kids every single

00:18:03.880 day.

00:18:04.940 So, yeah.

00:18:05.920 And, and here I'm going to note something because I've been looking ahead in the statistics

00:18:11.680 and we're going to need to have a hypothesis around this, which is that from COVID to not

00:18:17.800 COVID lockdown, female rates of unhappiness, joining the euthanasia, everything declines 0.67

00:18:24.460 marginally.

00:18:25.300 Yeah.

00:18:25.620 Whereas in males, it didn't.

00:18:27.720 And so the question is, is why?

00:18:29.460 Why?

00:18:29.660 I think, I think we're going back to my, my original hypothesis, which is this is a social

00:18:34.340 contagion thing.

00:18:35.060 I think that during the pandemic just became vogue to talk about this and that after the

00:18:41.800 pandemic, it was just less cool.

00:18:43.440 And also like girls had more things to gossip and titter about when they were seeing each

00:18:48.900 other in person at school.

00:18:50.200 And so there, there wasn't as much need to get attention and gossip about entering the

00:18:56.940 afterlife. 1.00

00:18:58.380 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:58.940 Um, so seriously thought about joining the euthanasia, um, females, this was 30% in COVID 1.00

00:19:07.500 and then went down to 27%.

00:19:09.280 So it's 3%.

00:19:09.940 27% though.

00:19:11.260 That is still way too high.

00:19:12.820 I don't want to play those odds.

00:19:14.700 I mean, like if we're talking about school shooters, for example, and it's like, well,

00:19:18.740 you know, like you'd be like, oh, I'm getting my kid out of that school.

00:19:21.040 I don't want them to get hurt.

00:19:22.280 Like it's, I don't know why we're so, we talk so much more about our children being at risk

00:19:27.340 of being hurt by other people when like, just like with murder rates, right?

00:19:30.880 Like most murders and kidnappings are performed by like family members or inside the house

00:19:35.220 or people, you know, and the, who do you know, who do you spend the most time with in your

00:19:39.520 entire life?

00:19:40.000 It's you, you are your own worst enemy.

00:19:42.600 You are your own biggest risk.

00:19:44.700 Why are we not more concerned about this?

00:19:47.100 The, you know, the calls coming from inside the house, like the most inside part of it.

00:19:51.580 Ah.

00:19:53.240 Should it continue?

00:19:54.480 Yeah.

00:19:54.860 Come on.

00:19:55.300 And with males, it was 14% in, in, in both periods.

00:19:59.140 Still way too much. 1.00

00:20:00.320 Also keep in mind how low it is for males compared to females, 14 to 27%, right? 1.00

00:20:05.180 Yeah.

00:20:05.440 Girls are significantly more at risk of this.

00:20:07.980 And, you know, everybody knows life is worse for young men these days in terms of the bias

00:20:13.340 they face in from, from teachers, from society.

00:20:16.140 The enemy within is worse for young women.

00:20:18.620 Yeah.

00:20:18.900 Young men are like, they just really want to bang someone, right?

00:20:21.480 Like this is the worst thing that happens to them in youth, right? 0.99

00:20:24.400 They become a little rebellious and they really need sex. 0.92

00:20:26.820 Girls, it's, man, it's, it's, it's, it's different and it's dark. 0.97

00:20:31.400 Okay.

00:20:32.680 No, no.

00:20:33.340 I mean, it is, it is true what you're saying.

00:20:35.580 They want sex. 0.68

00:20:37.080 That is what men want. 0.99

00:20:39.040 Yeah.

00:20:39.300 If only I were so lucky.

00:20:40.960 If only that were my problem in youth, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't have the bones of an aged woman.

00:20:47.300 And anyway, anyway.

00:20:50.480 So for the, we, where we went over the made a plan.

00:20:56.000 So for women, it went from 24% to 21%. 1.00

00:20:59.120 But with males, it's 12% to 12%. 1.00

00:21:02.360 Still way too high. 1.00

00:21:04.720 Yeah.

00:21:06.120 And I think your enemy within thing is right. 0.94

00:21:07.920 Women are terrible to other women. 0.94

00:21:10.540 And themselves. 1.00

00:21:11.240 And themselves.

00:21:11.680 A lot of it comes from a place of self-hatred.

00:21:14.120 The urban monoculture, which defines your purpose around seeking self-validation and pleasure,

00:21:21.240 is going to spread more within female communities because they are much more interested in conforming 1.00

00:21:28.320 to societal standards, social pressures.

00:21:31.440 And I think they might have even become more conformist to the general social pressure over

00:21:36.500 COVID because now it's not just their friend group that's, that's pressuring them.

00:21:41.640 It's the online juggernaut that's pressuring them.

00:21:44.640 Right.

00:21:46.000 The juggernaut.

00:21:48.080 The juggernaut.

00:21:48.880 And then attempted.

00:21:49.820 Now, this is interesting.

00:21:51.300 Attempted actually didn't go down post COVID for women.

00:21:55.300 13% to 13%.

00:21:56.720 So what it may be is we're actually seeing a decrease in the sort of histionic.

00:22:00.880 I'm going to do it.

00:22:01.780 I'm going to do it behavior and not actual rates.

00:22:04.300 Whereas for men, it went down 1%, which is statistically irrelevant.

00:22:07.140 7% to 6%.

00:22:08.020 Thoughts?

00:22:10.580 Yep.

00:22:11.020 Part of me is like, I trust men when they say it.

00:22:14.140 Also, like when you look at the successful execution of early exit, men follow through.

00:22:20.900 You know, women attempt all the time.

00:22:22.600 Actually, actually.

00:22:22.940 Oh, I tried.

00:22:23.840 Hold on, Simone.

00:22:24.660 You're just statistically wrong here.

00:22:27.600 Really?

00:22:28.200 I thought it was men that just got the job done.

00:22:30.080 No, no.

00:22:30.720 Contrast.

00:22:31.180 No, that is true.

00:22:32.180 When they attempt, they die more often.

00:22:33.960 Yeah.

00:22:34.100 But contrast the male attempt rate, which was 6%, versus the male percent rate that said

00:22:42.460 they seriously considered it, which was 14%. 0.97

00:22:45.400 So, you know, that's like... 0.97

00:22:49.720 And what's the female attempt versus consider?

00:22:52.700 A bit more than double, right?

00:22:54.580 I don't see that as meaningful. 1.00

00:22:56.240 Did they actually succeed? 1.00

00:22:57.820 That's what matters. 1.00

00:22:58.200 No, obviously... 1.00

00:22:59.340 Because a female attempt is not always an actual attempt. 1.00

00:23:03.120 It might just be the communication of the drama, okay?

00:23:06.180 The communication of the drama. 1.00

00:23:07.700 So, you're saying women are histionic drama queens that will attempt to make it look like 1.00

00:23:13.840 they want to end their lives for attention. 1.00

00:23:15.480 You're saying this about young women. 1.00

00:23:17.540 Well, yeah. 0.98

00:23:18.440 I mean, it's... 0.98

00:23:19.060 You're like, well, yeah! 0.98

00:23:21.220 Yeah. 0.98

00:23:21.760 Well, okay. 0.98

00:23:22.240 So, look at it.

00:23:23.120 Look at it from a woman's perspective, right?

00:23:24.800 It's in vogue now.

00:23:25.540 You know, everyone in high school is talking about it.

00:23:29.220 One of them already followed through.

00:23:30.620 You're trying to get attention and love and people to care and worry about you because

00:23:34.680 of this, right?

00:23:35.320 But everyone's talking about it and how depressed and sad they are.

00:23:38.540 So, we have no choice.

00:23:39.580 Very much that's a clever situation.

00:23:40.940 Yeah.

00:23:41.200 Well, no, sort of.

00:23:42.200 You have no choice but to show how you're actually serious when you're competing with

00:23:45.620 everyone for attention on this one trendy issue.

00:23:47.700 Sorry to hear about your friend. 0.98

00:23:50.220 Thought she was your usual airhead. 0.99

00:23:51.880 Guess I was wrong. 0.99

00:23:53.540 We all were.

00:23:57.900 So, the only way that you can demonstrate your seriousness is to actually show an attempt

00:24:03.160 to actually get hospitalized, for example.

00:24:05.360 You know, to actually be taken out of school for several days so that people talk about you

00:24:09.960 in your absence, right?

00:24:11.760 And there are very easy ways to do this where you know it's not really going to...

00:24:15.240 But, you know, you can still work yourself up and, you know, get... 0.99

00:24:17.880 This is very harmful. 0.99

00:24:18.920 I'm not saying that, like, girls who are doing it performatively aren't hurting themselves

00:24:22.640 and also very, very miserable and actually kind of really thinking about it.

00:24:25.580 Because once you get into the...

00:24:26.820 It's method acting to a great extent as well.

00:24:29.340 Like, they're really feeling it.

00:24:31.000 Yeah.

00:24:31.340 I was also just thinking about the movie The Heathers where a major plot theme is that

00:24:35.360 unaliving yourself becomes trendy in school because it's actually a chain of murders.

00:24:40.880 Popular girls don't know that. 1.00

00:24:42.340 It's a perfect crime. 1.00

00:24:43.400 Yeah.

00:24:43.600 But the male character in that had a very similar sort of persona to the one that I had in high

00:24:50.780 school, which is funny in terms of, like, the way he acted and dressed and everything,

00:24:55.440 which is funny.

00:24:57.720 You're just trying to be, like, a little effete while also being very irreverent.

00:25:02.820 Yeah.

00:25:03.240 No, that was very much the arbitrage game that you played in that.

00:25:06.540 And break rules for the sake of breaking rules, you know, whatever.

00:25:09.800 So many rules I broke at that time in my life, like, literally only because I broke rules.

00:25:14.840 I wanted to break rules.

00:25:16.140 I remember, like, back then I used to smoke and then I stopped smoking the minute it was

00:25:22.980 legal for me to smoke.

00:25:24.020 I was just like, this is, this is lame.

00:25:27.520 I'm glad you didn't get addicted.

00:25:28.980 That's interesting.

00:25:30.580 People in my family seem pretty resistant to nicotine addictions.

00:25:34.400 Yeah, that is, that is interesting.

00:25:36.160 People in my family are very susceptible to alcohol addiction.

00:25:38.500 Yeah.

00:25:38.700 Fire water gets you guys, but not the, not the peace pipe.

00:25:42.480 Interesting.

00:25:44.000 No one in my family has died from alcohol.

00:25:46.540 So not that kind of, but, but my mom, if you didn't know, was actually addicted to

00:25:52.580 nicotine for a period.

00:25:53.820 Oh, she was.

00:25:54.720 So she had to actively try to quit smoking.

00:25:57.760 Well, okay.

00:25:59.300 I did not.

00:25:59.580 She said she, she stopped smoking.

00:26:01.240 And the only reason I even remember this is because I remember why she stopped, which 0.99

00:26:04.820 is apparently in like kindergarten when we were supposed to make, you know, like little

00:26:08.760 things for our parents in like art class.

00:26:11.620 Oh no.

00:26:13.140 A holder, like a little, you know, and seeing that it like got to her and she's like,

00:26:19.040 Oh, mommy, I made you an ashtray.

00:26:21.320 So she, wait, that implies that she might've smoked through her pregnancies.

00:26:25.460 No, she didn't. 1.00

00:26:26.700 She stopped. 1.00

00:26:27.400 Because a lot of, a lot of women just stop smoking because like, even men, like a lot

00:26:32.700 of men, when they do quit smoking, it's because they've been hospitalized for a series of days

00:26:36.980 and they haven't been allowed to smoke them.

00:26:38.340 And they're like, well, I guess this is the time I get cold turkey, you know, the first

00:26:41.760 days are the hardest.

00:26:42.900 So I figured that she would have stayed cold turkey.

00:26:46.380 She never did it that much.

00:26:47.460 I do not have any explicit memory of her ever smoking in my entire life.

00:26:52.260 I only have a memory of the ashtray story.

00:26:55.020 Oh, interesting.

00:26:55.940 Yeah.

00:26:56.380 Maybe she, I honestly imagine that she did it just for the aesthetics.

00:26:59.620 I'd be surprised if she struggled to quit.

00:27:03.200 But I don't know.

00:27:03.800 But yeah.

00:27:04.560 So where is this coming from?

00:27:06.880 Yeah.

00:27:07.040 I mean, we've, we've talked about this in so many episodes, but you know, just to go

00:27:11.680 over, when you define your purpose in life, as is a search for pleasure and self-affirmation,

00:27:19.660 you feel and experience everything that is fundamentally good that you are creating in

00:27:28.720 this universe from your perspective, because that's how you've defined your own purpose.

00:27:31.460 And there just isn't that much positive feeling to life, especially when you're a teenager.

00:27:37.120 And so it's a very bad reason to keep going.

00:27:41.180 It's worse than that, though.

00:27:42.380 And here's why I think also you saw more of a spike in this form of ideation during the

00:27:48.500 pandemic, especially is because I listen to a lot more leftist content than you do.

00:27:53.220 A very, very common theme is just like, oh, this world is just so hard to live in.

00:27:59.480 It's just, it's just so dark.

00:28:03.420 And this world is everything possible.

00:28:06.020 I know, I know.

00:28:06.840 I love this timeline.

00:28:07.720 Like, that's the problem is we're having a blast.

00:28:09.680 But it is a very, very, very common message in the mainstream urban monoculture.

00:28:15.540 And for that reason, I think it's even easier to begin thinking along those lines.

00:28:20.460 You see this crop up with antinatalism as well.

00:28:23.100 And people think about bringing a new life into the world.

00:28:25.800 We often hear it, too, of like, oh, how could I bring a life into a world that's so horrible?

00:28:30.920 But this also has to do with people's existing lives and can influence people's tendencies

00:28:35.460 in that direction to end their lives early.

00:28:39.560 Yeah, I think that you're putting on something really important here.

00:28:45.660 And we talked about it in our, you know, the seductiveness of nihilism, right?

00:28:50.140 Like, being the nihilistic person is an easy social hack to look cool within any context,

00:28:55.920 right?

00:28:56.180 You know, everyone else is, oh, you know.

00:28:58.740 If I come into a room and I'm, like, unbridledly enthusiastic about something and somebody else

00:29:01.960 is like, hey, that's lame.

00:29:03.300 You know, they've now scored, like, a social point on me.

00:29:05.520 Unless that's actively punished or I just look at them.

00:29:07.780 And I, by the way, that's one of those, like, moves.

00:29:11.880 I imagine people who enjoy watching sports, like, there are certain moves that they just

00:29:16.000 hate that people do to, like, get a ball from someone or I don't know.

00:29:20.560 But, like, when girls do it for, like, their version of girl nagging, like, a guy being

00:29:25.860 like, oh, like, well, I got us a reservation at this restaurant.

00:29:28.620 Oh, yeah.

00:29:29.560 You know, it's not really good.

00:29:31.360 Or, like, they just act not impressed by everything because they think that makes them

00:29:34.440 look good.

00:29:34.780 But this is another version of that when people are like, oh, the world's just so terrible.

00:29:39.560 Like, no, stop that.

00:29:41.120 It doesn't make you look good.

00:29:43.380 I mean, it just doesn't make you look good to a certain community is the thing.

00:29:48.920 Especially of women, especially of urban monoculture types.

00:29:52.420 This idea of your status in part coming from how distressed you are, how much of a victim

00:29:58.500 you are, your own weakness, as we've pointed out.

00:30:01.600 You know, you can either see the world through strength or you can see it through.

00:30:05.140 Weakness.

00:30:05.820 And the urban monoculture elevates a group or individual based on how disadvantaged they

00:30:12.760 are in the perspective of the urban monoculture.

00:30:14.800 You know, how many disabilities they have, how hard it is for them to get through an average

00:30:19.300 day. 1.00

00:30:20.000 And so, you know, if you're some white middle class chick and you're hearing this, you're 1.00

00:30:23.700 now like, you know, this is where its foodies come from.

00:30:25.420 You're now like, oh, I got to invent all this for myself. 0.98

00:30:27.760 And as, as you and I have pointed out, people like women, young women see our episode. 0.98

00:30:34.300 If you're interested, it's, it's something like they crave the dystopia. 1.00

00:30:38.560 Women are sort of programmed to want to live in a dystopia.

00:30:41.140 And you see this through the literature that they read, like dystopian literature is very,

00:30:46.460 very common for young female audiences.

00:30:48.780 And if you read about the lives of young females, just a couple of generations ago in that episode,

00:30:54.120 we went through Simone's grandmother's war diaries, you know, living in France under occupation.

00:30:59.400 And it was a post-apocalypse.

00:31:03.220 It was a, like, like they were living through and you go back.

00:31:07.540 They're driving out of Paris and the roads are backed up and the, the Nazis are literally dropping bombs on the roads as cars are fleeing.

00:31:16.620 She, at one point, had like a pickup truck flip over her as she was hiding in a ditch by the side of the road.

00:31:22.340 And the only reason she was spared was because she was like inside the indentation of the ditch, like horrible things.

00:31:28.120 And, you know, they wander into abandoned villages and she goes into a, like a restaurant or bar trying to find, you know,

00:31:34.940 someone to like get food from and just finds a dead body there.

00:31:38.400 And like walks back to where her parents were and just doesn't say anything.

00:31:41.200 Like genuine, like scary movie stuff.

00:31:45.040 Not, not even just, ooh, spooky, dystopia, that kind of, you know, just horrible.

00:31:49.140 Yeah.

00:31:49.500 And it was the same way you go back to the Great Depression.

00:31:52.940 It's the same.

00:31:53.440 You go back to the Old West, the same.

00:31:55.760 You go back to Europe during that time period, the same. 1.00

00:31:59.140 Yeah. 1.00

00:31:59.880 Women are genetically optimized to grow up in a dystopia. 1.00

00:32:04.100 And when they do not have an external oppressor, they create a fictionalized oppressive force in their lives.

00:32:12.240 Actually, I want to think about this concept more.

00:32:15.420 How can we structurally create something that helps our daughters not do this to themselves?

00:32:22.200 Talk of siblings, a large family, it's built in.

00:32:24.900 I don't think so at all.

00:32:26.740 I think that it is still possible without traditions and contextualizations to intergenerationally prevent this.

00:32:35.440 And the way that I would do it is to frame our family as a discriminated group by the dominant culture and society, the urban monoculture, right?

00:32:46.880 And say that, you know, they will fight against us at every turn.

00:32:51.740 They will make your life harder at every turn because of who you are.

00:32:56.380 There is an active conspiracy against us, which there is.

00:32:59.300 You can just look at the media.

00:33:00.540 There is an active array of forces aligned against us, right?

00:33:06.700 And that we need to fight this.

00:33:10.180 And I think that that can help them.

00:33:11.880 I think another thing is to maybe create a holiday around this, right? 0.89

00:33:18.580 The idea that young women will create fictionalized self-oppression when they do not face it in their life. 0.89

00:33:29.060 And I think that the – how would you structure a holiday to really hammer that home?

00:33:36.380 I don't know.

00:33:37.020 I mean, off the top of my head, I don't know.

00:33:40.200 I want to consult the holidays that other Basecamp community members have shared with us that they've built on their own.

00:33:46.320 Because we're not the only ones who believe in culture crafting, as it just so happens.

00:33:51.000 You know, we're a good company.

00:33:52.660 I think some of them have come up with some interesting rites of passage.

00:33:55.520 So, I don't know.

00:33:57.380 Could consult those for inspiration.

00:33:59.700 Well, somebody had a past day that I really liked.

00:34:02.100 Maybe we could do something where, like, the past day is actually, like, a two-day thing.

00:34:07.280 And you do different eras.

00:34:09.500 So you do – or maybe even for, like, a week.

00:34:11.800 Every week you do a meal from, like, a different period in the past.

00:34:15.220 And you talk about the challenges of living in that period and how horrible it actually was to be alive during that period.

00:34:23.060 And how – and then reflect on how lucky we are for the society and world we live in and think with shame on the people who act differently.

00:34:36.160 What do you think of that? 0.80

00:34:37.620 We can do this over Thanksgiving as an alternative to Thanksgiving because Thanksgiving sucks on the holiday. 0.82

00:34:41.760 Yeah.

00:34:42.160 Yeah.

00:34:42.420 I do like that as a Thanksgiving thing.

00:34:45.220 And then you get a week of unique dishes as well.

00:34:49.820 So you can try –

00:34:50.480 Always.

00:34:50.960 Always the dishes.

00:34:51.860 Yeah.

00:34:52.100 It ain't a holiday if they're in special food decorations.

00:34:54.400 Canned food from the 1950s. 0.95

00:34:56.740 You know, what is that like? 0.95

00:34:57.880 Oh, God. 0.95

00:34:58.180 Make a Jell-O casserole thing. 0.95

00:35:00.340 Blah. 0.95

00:35:02.120 Our kids would probably be into it considering their taste in food.

00:35:06.480 So, yeah.

00:35:06.800 No.

00:35:07.500 Yeah.

00:35:07.900 I hear you.

00:35:08.880 I think the biggest thing is the urban monoculture.

00:35:12.800 The second biggest thing is affluence.

00:35:14.420 You can't really fight the urban monoculture.

00:35:15.960 You can't just say, don't join it.

00:35:18.360 Your kids will still join it.

00:35:19.700 You still end up trapped. 1.00

00:35:21.360 Right? 1.00

00:35:21.600 Like – 1.00

00:35:21.960 Well, and you still actually have a very, very long history of affluent girls living in abundance, 1.00

00:35:28.160 having issues of hurting themselves.

00:35:30.880 And calling it different things, sometimes calling it religious devotion,

00:35:35.280 sometimes calling it the sickness that they just report that isn't real. 1.00

00:35:40.000 So, yeah.

00:35:40.740 I agree with you that it is not exclusively the urban monoculture.

00:35:44.320 I think that the urban monoculture can, however, explain outsized variants

00:35:47.680 and unique differences in some periods of time.

00:35:51.760 But, yeah.

00:35:52.680 You're right.

00:35:54.080 But, yeah.

00:35:54.760 You also –

00:35:55.480 The larger picture is that people need a reason to live.

00:35:58.680 It's not enough to just be like, oh, I'm happy.

00:36:01.840 And, like, I don't know.

00:36:03.620 I don't want to die.

00:36:04.800 You have to –

00:36:06.760 I think a lot of people only understand why they don't want to die

00:36:11.180 when kind of that's not –

00:36:13.660 Living is the default.

00:36:15.820 That's a big factor.

00:36:17.500 When living is not the default or it doesn't feel like the default,

00:36:21.660 they suddenly are really happy about not dying.

00:36:25.100 And I think maybe actually another issue that could be insufficiently discussed,

00:36:29.380 and this can go back to holidays and also making Halloween more about El Dia de los Muertos,

00:36:35.360 is that we don't talk a lot about death.

00:36:38.100 And I think a lot of people don't even really understand the meaning of how short their lives are

00:36:43.760 and how tenuous their lives are and how quickly everything can just end

00:36:48.660 and you can lose a family member at any age.

00:36:50.500 How can we go to show our kids a dead human body?

00:36:53.940 Like, does the morgue let kids in?

00:36:56.000 I used to –

00:36:56.720 I'm sure if you have a lot of, like, if you have good connections, probably.

00:37:01.140 But even just talking with Octavian on Monday, like, when it came up that, like,

00:37:06.320 I'm going to die and he's going to die, and he really started wrapping his head around it,

00:37:10.300 and he was like, oh, God. 1.00

00:37:11.360 Like, ugh. 1.00

00:37:12.840 He definitely came away from the conversation. 1.00

00:37:15.160 The Puritans used to do that.

00:37:16.440 They used to have their kids, like, stand over graves.

00:37:19.120 Yeah.

00:37:19.720 Yeah, and I'm like, look at it.

00:37:21.620 That's going to be you one day.

00:37:23.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:24.480 Yeah, I wonder if that's maybe also one of the reasons why people held open casket funerals.

00:37:29.280 You know, it's not necessarily to just honor the dead or, like, have closure in some way

00:37:36.760 that would really freak me out, but, like, rather to be like, no, look at it.

00:37:41.260 Understand.

00:37:41.700 I think we should make a holiday for our family around showing the kids dead bodies

00:37:45.880 and see if that's-

00:37:47.260 Or we could do the thing that, like, you know, the depressed South Koreans do, 0.70

00:37:50.940 where, you know, we make them, they write their will, and they lie in a casket and think about 0.70

00:37:57.160 the fact.

00:37:57.660 I don't know, though.

00:37:58.320 I wonder if that kind of makes people into it, make them want to go ahead and do it.

00:38:05.180 I don't know.

00:38:06.040 I don't know.

00:38:06.580 We're going to have to think about this.

00:38:07.800 I'd love people's thoughts in the comments.

00:38:10.120 Yeah.

00:38:10.280 Well, that's my thoughts on that, which is to say this is not an artifact caused by COVID.

00:38:17.660 The system really is that bad, and stay the F away.

00:38:22.280 Like, stay the F away.

00:38:25.160 Build something new.

00:38:26.700 You have had kids for nothing if you then throw them in the grinder, right?

00:38:32.560 Like a society, right?

00:38:34.520 If you let them be normal, right?

00:38:39.340 Because-

00:38:39.940 These days, Malcolm has given you one slice of what normal means.

00:38:45.000 And given those rates of interest and departing from the world so prematurely, normal's not good.

00:38:51.720 Normal's a dangerous cult.

00:38:53.620 You want freakishly weird.

00:38:54.860 Anything that's not freakishly weird now is very worrisome.

00:38:59.520 So get rid of that desire to be- to fit in.

00:39:03.420 Not good.

00:39:04.620 Not good.

00:39:04.960 All right.

00:39:05.560 I love you so much.

00:39:09.120 I have the other half of the bulldog, but I know this was with the larger- I don't know how to pronounce the noodle things.

00:39:16.300 T-O-B-O-K-E.

00:39:17.060 Something's wrong with this bulldog. 0.59

00:39:19.920 It didn't look right.

00:39:20.840 Yeah.

00:39:21.120 I was like, what is- I think it's because we- you asked me in subsequent batches to make- to chop the medicinal pieces.

00:39:28.500 No, no, no.

00:39:29.120 No.

00:39:29.560 I mean, it doesn't have any chicken in it, for one.

00:39:31.620 It doesn't have any mushrooms in it.

00:39:33.440 It, I think, was the one that we made that wasn't actually bulldog, but it was meant to be made by itself without cheese.

00:39:41.700 It's a different dish entirely.

00:39:43.520 Do you want me to toss the rest of it, or do you want me to prepare it differently?

00:39:50.100 I think you just don't want- you don't- dude, if it doesn't work-

00:39:52.920 Prepare it differently.

00:39:53.920 Prepare it without cheese, or a little bit of cheddar, and cook it longer.

00:39:58.580 It was, like, really mushy when it needs to be a little bit hard.

00:40:01.520 Okay, so you want to dry it out, and then- so I'll dry it out, and it, like, in the air fryer, like, sort of bake it for a while, and then at the very end, I'll melt cheese- cheddar cheese on top.

00:40:10.800 Yeah?

00:40:11.140 That's a good idea.

00:40:12.000 Yeah.

00:40:12.160 Okay, we'll try that.

00:40:12.900 And if you don't like it, I can make you-

00:40:15.760 It's fine to eat, by the way, because, yeah, well, it's not as tasty, because it doesn't have chicken or the mushrooms.

00:40:20.300 It has nothing that can go wrong with it.

00:40:22.580 Oh, well, there's that.

00:40:23.720 Yeah.

00:40:24.080 And if you have cheese, you have a little more protein.

00:40:26.520 I'm trying to keep it balanced.

00:40:28.300 I was just learning recently about someone who died at age, like, 32 of a sudden aneurysm left kids behind and stuff.

00:40:35.400 Made me really sad.

00:40:36.300 So now I'm like, oh, God, I got to get you healthy.

00:40:39.260 Got to get your blood pressure perfect and keep you alive forever.

00:40:43.020 And you need to sleep more.

00:40:44.420 Okay?

00:40:45.360 I slept a lot today.

00:40:47.120 Yeah, but more.

00:40:50.280 Okay?

00:40:50.660 Just more.

00:40:51.340 And are you, like, taking all your vitamins every day?

00:40:53.760 Are we doing?

00:40:54.920 A lot, sometimes.

00:40:56.480 Mm, I have not refilled our two-week little flipper thing for you in more than two weeks now, so.

00:41:04.180 All right, God.

00:41:05.420 I shouldn't have to do every- I can't, like, throw pills into your mouth. 0.99

00:41:09.680 Take your freaking pills. 1.00

00:41:11.020 You're an adult, man. 1.00

00:41:12.940 I don't want you to die. 0.92

00:41:15.860 I feel like Toasty understands his mortality.

00:41:18.160 If his way of saying I love you is, I love you and I don't want you to die.

00:41:21.060 But I think this is also because I constantly am like, Torsten, don't jump off the bed like that.

00:41:25.260 I don't want you to die.

00:41:26.180 And he just assumes that it's, like, this platitude of, like, oh, yes, and a good day to you, too.

00:41:30.400 Day to you, too, sir.

00:41:31.540 I love you and I don't want you to die.

00:41:33.400 Yeah, I just think it's a thing you say sometimes.

00:41:36.960 No, Toasty, you're dangerous.

00:41:39.860 Stop doing things.

00:41:41.300 Anyway.

00:41:41.560 I love you, Simone.

00:41:42.500 That works for me for tonight.

00:41:44.020 Also reheating.

00:41:45.640 You could even throw in some peppers or something to mix it up a bit.

00:41:48.780 And shishito peppers, so saute those.

00:41:51.000 Yeah, because we got to use.

00:41:52.340 Actually, why don't you just try sauteing it with shishito peppers?

00:41:57.100 Okay, and then I guess at the very end, I can throw it in the air fryer and then.

00:42:00.420 Or just not.

00:42:01.700 Just no cheese, no air fryer.

00:42:03.580 I can also sprinkle shredded, very finely shredded cheddar cheese on after plating it.

00:42:08.840 Yeah.

00:42:09.600 Okay, I'll do that.

00:42:10.700 Yeah, that spares me cleaning the air fryer.

00:42:13.240 Thank you, and I love you, and goodbye, and don't die.

00:42:15.860 Amazing woman, I love you dearly.

00:42:19.800 Thank you for this great wife and not wanting to die all the time, because that would be really sad. 0.74

00:42:25.880 Yeah, being around a bummer.

00:42:28.000 Depression is contagious.

00:42:29.120 Okay, by the way, did you get to RFAB's deck in counter reviewing that?

00:42:33.160 No, I need to get to that, but I will.

00:42:35.800 I will.

00:42:36.200 Okay, I gotta get that.

00:42:37.680 Love you, bye.

00:42:38.860 Bye.

00:42:39.260 Bye.

00:42:39.320 Bye.

00:42:40.660 Bye.

00:42:41.060 Bye.

00:42:41.220 Bye.

00:42:41.260 Bye.

00:42:41.320 Bye.

00:42:41.360 Bye.

00:42:42.260 Bye.

00:42:42.280 Bye.

00:42:42.320 Bye.

00:42:42.380 Bye.

00:42:45.860 Nice.

00:43:01.400 Okay.

00:43:03.520 All right.

00:43:03.920 Before we, you know, start, because you don't want to trigger too many content filters.

00:43:09.600 What are we going to call this?

00:43:10.540 What?

00:43:10.720 The youth in Asia?

00:43:12.200 Are we going to call it success rates?

00:43:13.800 The youth in Asia, yeah.

00:43:17.140 What are, what are, how's this going to go?

00:43:20.000 The, well, I think, I think self-euthanizing.

00:43:23.040 Termination rates?

00:43:25.280 Termination rates, unaliving is the word most people use.

00:43:28.200 Ew, yeah. 0.75

00:43:28.740 But except if I were an obvious not retard at Google, I would include unaliving as one of 0.75

00:43:37.100 my content filters. 1.00

00:43:38.640 It's so stupid. 0.99

00:43:39.680 You can't use the term that everyone uses, you know, that, that's, what did they call 1.00

00:43:44.640 it?

00:43:44.760 The, the euphemism treadmill, treadmill, that's not, no, no, we had to rise above.

00:43:49.660 Google seems okay with the euphemism treadmill.

00:43:51.420 Well, I, I, I like your euthanasia thing, so we'll just call them the euthanasia, okay?

00:43:56.060 If we knew that they'd be joining the euthanasia.

00:43:58.360 The rate of youths, yeah.

00:43:59.740 The red youths, okay. 1.00

00:44:00.580 Who've entered Asia. 1.00

00:44:01.980 I just saw a thing, you know, Cobicular, he has a scale at his house for when women come 1.00

00:44:07.840 in, uh, and if you don't have a hundred body bags and necks, you get kicked out, you'd

00:44:12.660 make it through, that's for sure.

00:44:14.160 Adorable.

00:44:14.860 Yeah.

00:44:15.220 I'm 20% body fat.

00:44:16.760 That is exactly where you could be if you want to have an athlete's body, but also carefully

00:44:20.460 and like successfully healthily carry pregnancies.

00:44:23.800 I, I, I had a DEXA scan to actually check because I was like, I want to be an exact minimum

00:44:29.920 of body weight that I can have while I was being pregnant.

00:44:33.100 I want to be the very best.

00:44:36.020 Body matching day.

00:44:37.760 Oh yeah. 0.99

00:44:39.220 Oh my gosh. 0.99

00:44:40.200 To be thin is my greatest quest. 0.99

00:44:43.660 Yeah. 0.99

00:44:44.140 Anyway. 0.99

00:44:44.980 But I like that about you because I am disgusted by fat. 0.99

00:44:48.120 Rotundity. 0.96

00:44:49.100 You are disinclined to.

00:44:50.940 No, I have a, a, a pretty strong natural aversion to it.

00:44:54.540 Yeah. 0.91

00:44:54.780 It's just like some people are turned off by, you know, big butts. 0.97

00:44:59.900 Some people are turned off by small butts. 0.87

00:45:01.420 You're turned off by excess body fat.

00:45:03.500 Some people are turned on by excess body fat, as we know, because the entire Hays movement,

00:45:07.520 the body positivity for women wasn't invented by women trying to look good. 0.99

00:45:11.120 It was invented by chubby chasers. 0.79

00:45:12.820 Okay.

00:45:13.080 Like they're out there.

00:45:14.180 So that's one of the things you actually pointed out in your book, the pragmatist guide

00:45:17.480 to sexuality, that people under index on just appealing to the people who find you

00:45:23.220 attractive, um, that, that we just need to, like, if you are, for example, rotund, look

00:45:28.620 for dudes who are into that. 1.00

00:45:30.220 If you are a bony hag, like, filter out dudes who are into that by being like, I'm just a 1.00

00:45:36.280 fetish to you. 0.99

00:45:37.260 I know that.

00:45:37.860 No, no, that's, this is your opportunity.

00:45:40.120 Go for it, girl.

00:45:41.120 Live your dreams.

00:45:42.860 I also, you know, cause I sent you that clip of the, the mom and her daughter looking at

00:45:47.700 filter, like Instagram filters of them that turn them into men. 0.51

00:45:50.400 And I realized, and I texted you this on what's up this morning, but I was like, oh my God, 1.00

00:45:54.420 like before any woman is allowed to date, she should look at a filter of her as a man.

00:45:59.680 I'm like, this is the level of, of man you could get because in, in the clip that I sent

00:46:03.800 you, it showed like, you know, a woman who was like, I don't know what an eight or something

00:46:07.640 or above. 1.00

00:46:08.260 Like she was a hot, sexy woman. 1.00

00:46:09.900 And like, as a man, she looked really good. 1.00

00:46:11.580 And then the camera pans over to her mom, who's not an eight and she saw what she looked 1.00

00:46:17.700 like as a man. 1.00

00:46:18.420 And I think she would be the type of woman who would expect an eight plus, you know, who 1.00

00:46:23.000 would expect a man who's really attractive and she would never give a second glance to

00:46:27.660 a man who looked like she did under that filter.

00:46:30.360 And I think that was part of what led her to start screaming expletives, et cetera, because

00:46:35.620 like she had, would have deep disrespect for a man who looked, Oh my God, Christina, you

00:46:42.360 are one hot looking man.

00:46:44.980 Oh my God. 0.94

00:46:45.960 Are you fricking kidding me right now? 0.94

00:46:48.800 That's awesome. 0.94

00:46:50.060 What? 0.94

00:46:51.240 Get that. 0.94

00:46:51.980 Are you fricking kidding me right now? 0.99

00:46:53.760 Get that off. 0.99

00:46:54.580 That's disgusting. 0.99

00:46:55.520 The way she looks as a man. 0.99

00:46:57.900 Yeah. 0.99

00:46:58.200 And then that's how AI is going to help the dating game. 0.99

00:47:01.220 Yes.

00:47:01.660 No, this is it.

00:47:02.460 You know, like, yeah, dating app that before you sign up, you have to see.

00:47:06.320 The filter of you. 0.73

00:47:08.060 Oh my God. 0.73

00:47:09.000 A dating app that only allowed you to see the gender bent version of them. 0.73

00:47:14.580 And they're like, well, I guess if they look kind of like me, then all women are beautiful. 0.76

00:47:19.260 Don't you know, Simone? 1.00

00:47:20.680 God, no. 1.00

00:47:22.120 All women. 1.00

00:47:24.060 I know the case. 1.00

00:47:25.720 Every time I look in a mirror, our girls are gorgeous.

00:47:29.180 It's great.

00:47:29.800 It's great that my like body dysmorphia doesn't pass on to them because I know some others really

00:47:35.140 take it out on their, you know, girls are like, oh, you have to look beautiful. 1.00

00:47:38.520 You're ugly. 0.92

00:47:39.640 Because, because they themselves feel ugly. 1.00

00:47:41.660 Whereas like, no, I'm like, damn, like you're beautiful. 0.99

00:47:45.300 They are. 0.99

00:47:45.920 They are.

00:47:47.260 Okay.

00:47:50.580 That's like a microscopic shock absorber, forcing any crack to zigzag.

00:47:55.120 A woman wore a long, old-fashioned dress.

00:47:57.580 Nobody seems to know or talk to her.

00:47:59.900 Every time Fiona went to a different room, a strange lady was there waiting.

00:48:04.260 She couldn't stop staring at Fiona.

00:48:06.900 Is this pasta with sprinkles?

00:48:10.480 Did you learn about this from Elf?

00:48:24.540 What?

00:48:25.540 Why does our teeth have to be white?

00:48:32.740 Because her bones are white, but her bones are teeth. 1.00

00:48:36.220 And did you know our teeth are bones?

00:48:39.060 I didn't know.

00:48:40.400 Yeah, they're bones you can see.

00:48:42.800 That is a spooky lady. 1.00

00:48:44.340 Let's see what she's up to.

00:48:45.180 Is that true?

00:48:47.540 Yeah.

00:48:48.860 A bag.

00:48:49.760 Right?

00:48:50.360 I don't know if so.

00:48:51.540 It's enamel-covered.

00:48:53.400 Below the manger, the engineering spaces feel like they're different.

00:48:56.700 Yeah, I think they're a different structure.

00:48:58.500 They could be.

00:48:59.260 I don't know.

00:49:00.020 Alexa, are teeth considered bone?

00:49:01.840 It's pushing 105.

00:49:04.120 Yeah.

00:49:04.380 Teeth aren't actually bones.

00:49:06.040 They may have different tissues that originate from the etuderm, the otteros embryonic germ layer.

00:49:11.080 While both contain mineralized tissues, it comes from the mesodermal germ layer.

00:49:13.400 There's bones inside!

00:49:15.460 It's like bone, which is found from the mesodermal germ layer.

00:49:18.980 Okay, they're not bones.

00:49:20.060 I'm sorry, I was wrong.

00:49:21.200 This is why I speak to Eskalexa, right?

00:49:24.160 They look a lot like bones because they're enamelized.

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