Based Camp - Russia Makes Childless Women See a Psychologist (Should We Adopt This System？)

00:00:00.000 hello malcolm i'm excited to be speaking with you today because russia has introduced a new

00:00:04.640 health ministry guideline saying that women who say they don't want children should be referred

00:00:10.400 for psychological counseling and and russian officials present this as a pronatalist measure

00:00:16.360 to address you know and i was like i heard it and generally with some totalitarian things i don't

00:00:21.800 like this much this one i'm like my gut says yes i like this i like framing it as a psychological

00:00:28.300 disorder for a woman to not want children yeah yeah and you you actually like it was fairly late

00:00:34.600 at night you just burst into my room and you're like russia's making like aspirational dinks 0.68

00:00:40.360 go to see therapists we both had a good laugh about it but then i i went and i looked up what

00:00:45.560 the policy actually does so basically during reproductive health assessments doctors have

00:00:51.420 been told that they should ask women how many children they want to have which is a little

00:00:56.700 dystopian and then if a woman says that she does not want to meet children the guideline says it

00:01:03.460 is recommended or advisable to send her to a medical psychologist quote you know from russian

00:01:10.980 quote to form positive attitudes toward childbirth and reports so far describe this as part of

00:01:18.220 clinical guidelines from the health ministry and and not they're not like a formal criminal or

00:01:23.260 administrative mandate with explicit penalties for refusing counseling. So this isn't some

00:01:28.480 dystopian thing. In fact, I think that this is, this is important for us to discuss and interesting

00:01:33.780 because this is just one of many Russian measures that are targeting the one thing we say actually

00:01:40.220 matters when it comes to prenatalist policy, which is culture to your point that you're building

00:01:44.440 this cultural precedent around shifting the way that women contextualize their choices around

00:01:50.740 not having children and i think that's really super interesting by the way men are they're not

00:01:56.460 asked equivalent questions what that's where they're failing but i do also like that they

00:02:01.780 frame this as like an explicit problem for women like woman what is wrong with you that you do not

00:02:07.300 want children all women want children right unless there's something seriously psychologically wrong

00:02:12.300 with you yeah what they're saying it is 100 what they're saying so so what we're going to go over 0.95

00:02:17.500 in this podcast is I'm going to give you a little refresher on Russia's larger landscape

00:02:23.080 of pronatalist culture investment, because while they're doing some of the typical things of like,

00:02:28.720 oh, here's money if you have a child and here's some limitations on abortions. Again, I think

00:02:34.740 they're leading somewhat in the cultural initiative. So we'll do a quick briefing on that

00:02:40.060 because they're actually doing a lot. And we'll discuss whether or not we think this is actually

00:02:43.660 a smart development and then you know can can for example psychologists actually be trusted to help

00:02:49.660 women form positive attitudes toward childbirth and and then kind of look at at how recent actually

00:02:57.020 the concept of not seeing women is crazy for wanting to be childless is because it's actually

00:03:04.380 super like it's a crazy aberration when you look at history so anyway it here's what russia is

00:03:10.300 currently doing culturally aside from the abortion and like money stuff to encourage

00:03:16.640 more children so one the government has revived the symbolic hero mother medals for women which i

00:03:26.040 valiantly attempted to get the trump administration to consider making an executive order around

00:03:31.840 still waiting on that one i'm ready anytime guys hero medals for mother come on

00:03:39.360 six plus kids you get a medal it's it costs basically nothing it can just you don't even

00:03:45.320 it could be a zoom meeting for all the just yes and then all the press would freak out it would

00:03:50.800 be great for the administration because of all the press freaking out about it and people being like

00:03:55.640 it's fascist to want to be a mother wait but so you reward people for being war heroes and for

00:04:06.680 contributions to science and for putting, you know, their lives on hold to move forward the arts

00:04:12.120 or technology or academia, but you don't reward people for setting their, their lives aside to

00:04:20.720 raise productive citizens. Excuse me. It's, it's so anti-feminist, but anyway, anyway, I'm just

00:04:29.280 putting it out there, guys. Any, any moment now can bring back the medal of motherhood,

00:04:34.640 but anyway russia at least is on it but also they've done some more some more extreme and

00:04:41.780 i mean man if you did these in the u.s it would be insane it's it's not it's never going to happen

00:04:46.420 here we're not even talking about it here but what russia has done is they have anti-dink that's

00:04:51.800 dual income no kids propaganda rules so in november of 2024 then this was their year of the

00:04:56.840 family like they had this big propaganda year of the family where they're like this is all about

00:05:01.540 traditional values they basically tried to reframe russia as like well russians believe

00:05:06.940 in traditional families and traditional values and having children and the rest of the world 0.87

00:05:11.200 is debauched and gross and they actually even got some and we did an episode on this at one point

00:05:16.120 they got some american families to move out to russia to pursue their traditional values because

00:05:22.760 they're like yeah i mean i guess america is not the country of traditional values anymore so russia

00:05:26.260 even managed to convince a bunch of americans that they were not liking it that much

00:05:31.220 i mean to be determined they're what we covered in that episode was one particular like village

00:05:38.520 that was being developed still is being developed if you want to buy a plot of land within my links

00:05:42.360 to their website they'll help you build the house they'll help you with your paperwork i mean it's a

00:05:47.400 full service business you you can live in this little village with other expats and you know

00:05:53.940 there's canadians there's americans it's a it's a whole thing but anyway in in that year of the

00:06:01.060 family. The Duma passed a law banning propaganda of child-free or deliberately childless lifestyles,

00:06:08.660 which covered media, films, and online content. So even if you're like an influencer, you can't be

00:06:13.180 like, I'm proudly child-free. I am a dink. I get to go to bed whenever I want, whatever, you know,

00:06:19.160 and because they're seen as basically discouraging people from having children because they are.

00:06:22.980 The law introduces administrative fines for individuals, officials, and organizations with

00:06:28.520 possible suspension of activities or even deportation for foreign nationals if they're

00:06:33.380 judged to promote a child-free ideology. 0.96

00:06:35.880 So while the traditional family values of foreigners who've moved to Russia to pursue 0.98

00:06:42.300 them, I guess any like dink influencers who are out there living it up or getting deported. 0.98

00:06:48.900 In the media, the state promotes and like actively promotes like an ideal of heterosexual 0.99

00:06:54.700 family with at least two but preferably three children and they use state media and films and

00:07:00.240 education campaigns to normalize this as the approved model which again i can't imagine ever

00:07:06.420 happening in the united states there is also a much more strict and this has been around for much

00:07:10.520 longer than the dink ban an lgbt propaganda ban so russia's lgbt and this there's like several laws

00:07:18.160 It's like a constellation of laws.

00:07:20.160 This is, this is, it's a whole thing.

00:07:22.700 In, in 2013, Russia adopted a law.

00:07:25.620 So this happened, it started so long ago that banned the propaganda of non-traditional

00:07:30.480 sexual relations to minors, adding article 6.21 to the administrative code and framing

00:07:37.060 LGBT content as harmful to children.

00:07:40.540 And it was used to block pride events and shut down LGBT organizations and fine individuals 0.72

00:07:46.560 for public support or visibility even before later expansions. So even in the very early

00:07:51.920 beginnings of this 13 years ago, it was pretty strict. Then in December 2022, Putin signed

00:07:57.600 amendments that expanded the ban from minors to everyone. So now any propaganda of non-traditional

00:08:04.100 sexual relations, information that makes them seem normal or that promotes gender transition

00:08:10.440 is prohibited for all age groups. And that that scope covers the internet and media and films and

00:08:15.700 books and advertising public events or even neutral or factual information about lgbt people

00:08:21.920 counts as propaganda you just cannot talk about gayness being a thing don't say like literal

00:08:29.520 don't say gay people literally don't say gay no no actually in russia just don't say gay okay just

00:08:36.700 just be safe in november of 2023 russia's supreme court labeled the so-called international lgbt

00:08:44.700 movement as an extremist organization which effectively made any organized lgbt activism

00:08:51.820 potentially prosecutable under anti-extremism laws and then a separate 2023 law banned gender

00:08:58.840 affirming medical care and legal gender change and it also i mean what's funny is that in the

00:09:03.880 united states we're probably going there if we look at demographic trends right now and he's

00:09:08.360 having kids in in their politics i would not be surprised if we have laws on the books like this

00:09:14.400 within our lifetime it's so funny because when we started pronatalist.org the website was all like

00:09:21.060 hey you know we'll help you know gay and lesbian couples you know become parents we really want to

00:09:27.460 make this a very inclusive world because you know if if these groups don't manage to be high

00:09:33.040 fertility we're not going to see it anymore and already like another element of of like the

00:09:38.380 russian law is if you've changed your gender you can't adopt or foster children like yeah i mean

00:09:44.940 exactly what we said basically like if these people don't have kids you're not going to have

00:09:49.620 these values supported you're not going to have this option in the future well i mean sorry the 0.74

00:09:54.400 reason why i think the the trans adoption thing is just really high rates of of a child molestation 0.60

00:09:59.440 in that community yeah it makes a lot of sense to not and and specifically of adopted children

00:10:05.960 historically there's there's been a number of cases of that so yeah no i mean i i get yeah i

00:10:11.480 get that and we can't go there because i'm too triggered by my children being hurt so moving on

00:10:17.980 in terms of just like actually the the health ministry's guidelines i i did have to ask myself

00:10:22.980 like can psychologists actually be trusted to help women form healthy views because the health

00:10:29.500 ministry text simply says women who say they do not want to have children should be referred to

00:10:34.540 a medical psychologist or clinical psychologist to form positive attitudes toward childbirth.

00:10:40.520 And it doesn't prescribe any special training or method for this. And so I checked to see if like

00:10:45.400 Russia has like some sort of different psychology track that might support this. And while they do

00:10:50.460 have perinatal psychology and psychotherapy programs and associations that train specialists

00:10:55.480 in preparing families for pregnancy and birth and dealing with fears, maybe helping people grow

00:11:01.340 in mothers and fathers roles the programs focus on people who are already pregnant or planning

00:11:07.920 children and they use techniques like informational counseling and family therapy and resource-based

00:11:12.440 art therapy to support parenthood but that's that's people who wanted to have kids already

00:11:16.900 so i don't think that like repurposing these types of therapists to change people's attitudes about

00:11:26.040 wanting kids at all no no no if a therapist and therapy culture is one of the triggers in our

00:11:32.480 society of so much of the toxic parts of the urban monoculture to weaponize that very faction 1.00

00:11:39.500 of society even just to normalize with therapists if they are not normalizing the idea that a woman

00:11:46.460 should want children to their patients that their job is at risk that they could lose you know 0.79

00:11:51.960 because this, keep in mind, it doesn't just normalize it with the women, it normalizes it 0.72

00:11:55.640 with the therapist. This is how they have to approach childless women in therapy.

00:12:01.540 Well, no, no, no. It only normalizes it with doctors and it's guidelines, not laws. So this

00:12:05.780 doesn't actually say that therapists have to be the same way. And it's different. And so I could

00:12:10.760 see this shifting where it does shift it, where like you have to go to a government-employed

00:12:16.720 therapist who does have that skew. For example, this is happening with the way that abortions

00:12:21.380 work in Russia. So Russia, one of the ways that they're trying to sort of discourage abortions

00:12:26.220 without like outright banning them is they are forcing the closure of many private abortion

00:12:32.160 clinics and instead directing them to government-based clinics where there are a lot more

00:12:37.480 delays and where you have to listen to a heartbeat and undergo counseling. And so when you have

00:12:42.160 government-controlled systems like that, you have more of that. But right now that's not happening

00:12:45.720 with the psychologists. They're just like, what's really happening is just the doctors are supposed

00:12:51.060 to be like oh you need to get that checked out what's interesting is in russia they decrease

00:12:55.240 abortions by trying to do more taxpayer funded abortions yeah that and that's that's actually

00:13:00.520 quite novel and interesting isn't it yeah it is it is especially coming from america but

00:13:04.700 so there is one thing where i'm like well maybe because basically poor mental health is linked

00:13:14.240 in several studies to lower childbearing intentions or lower fertility like actually

00:13:19.700 both can be affected i would i would argue that seeing a psychologist is is going to be linked

00:13:23.780 with these because it's linked with more and self-perceived lower mental health is going to

00:13:28.420 be linked with seeing a psychologist and that's going to be linked with infection by the urban

00:13:32.620 monoculture i mean i don't know if it's the same in russia though i mean i i wouldn't be surprised

00:13:39.240 if it wasn't and and you still have the same you know wider global education system wider global

00:13:44.540 urban monoculture of like the educated elite i don't know i mean the education system in russia

00:13:48.340 now is built into their propaganda machine which is very oriented around becoming a parent and

00:13:54.940 they're you know encouraging i would i would go further and you know if somebody's like well i'm

00:13:59.920 already seeing a psychologist you could do something like psychologists if they report that

00:14:06.480 psychologists go on a register for the number of childless people who are seeing them so if they

00:14:12.600 have too many childless people seeing them then they basically get a talking to by the state and

00:14:17.460 some form of repercussions or like your license might be under review if like you have a lot of

00:14:24.020 yeah so basically it forces mainstream psychologists to be more pro guiding women in

00:14:29.520 this direction i could see that but but the point i was also trying to make is that if you resolve 0.57

00:14:34.940 people's depression anxiety etc it can one help their overall fertility because fertility can be

00:14:42.820 depressed by things like stress and also it could increase their intentions of having children in

00:14:48.720 fact when you hear but well even when we look at movements like antinatalism and we talk with

00:14:54.000 people who don't want to have kids it's they're often clearly obviously suffering from clinical

00:15:00.380 depression clinical anxiety like genuine mental health problems and i do wonder if like if we

00:15:06.440 treated those do you think that would go away like do you think they'd actually and i mean many

00:15:10.460 people who don't want to have kids directly cite that they're like well how can i bring children

00:15:15.640 into this world and maybe if they didn't feel that way they'd want to be parents i'm just saying

00:15:21.920 like maybe maybe it could actually help even if it doesn't directly help but but i think the really

00:15:26.560 big thing and you pointed that at the very top you pointed this out at the very top is that the big

00:15:33.100 cultural shift here is not the therapy or the lack of therapy or whether the person actually goes to

00:15:39.260 the referred clinical psychologist. It is that it is being framed as a problem. Like, Hey, I don't

00:15:45.780 want to have children. Wow. You better get that checked out. And that is the important thing is

00:15:49.640 the cultural reframing of not wanting to have kids as like a form of insanity, a kind of disease that

00:15:56.640 might need treatment. Because it's, it's really important to just contextualize this narrative

00:16:02.820 that that not wanting kids is like okay has has only existed in in one has existed like at all

00:16:14.660 as as a as a minority view since the 1960s and in terms of existing is a more broadly acceptable

00:16:23.220 thing really post the 2000s before that basically you were crazy if you did not want to be a mother

00:16:30.920 as a woman so in ancient rome motherhood was seen as like the core sign of respectability

00:16:36.860 marriage and childbearing were just core to what it was to be an honorable woman and then of course

00:16:43.480 also there were things like the the augustinian birth incentive and honors for bearing several

00:16:47.760 children and you can see our episode on levels for motherhood go way back okay this come on

00:16:54.240 trump administration you can do this thanks well you you we did an episode on why roman

00:16:59.680 perinatalism failed so interesting to see if you're interested in that topic but continue

00:17:03.440 yeah then in the christian middle ages motherhood was seen as a a spiritual and religious vocation

00:17:10.180 and really the the only reason why you you might not be a mother in a sort of justifiable

00:17:15.640 religiously or societally acceptable ways if you like chose to be a nun so that was kind of one of

00:17:21.600 the few ways where you could be a full human as a woman and not have children but you were a

00:17:28.020 spiritual mother then and then in the early modern to 19th century a motherhood turned to

00:17:33.300 be something patriotic so enlightenment enlightenment and revolutionary era discourse

00:17:37.700 in places like the united states and france it actually recast women instead of making it like 0.96

00:17:42.680 a religious vocation like you know the cult of the virgin mary and all that they were framed as

00:17:47.620 republican mothers who i like this i like this framing yeah civic duty was to raise and bear

00:17:53.840 virtuous citizens. So motherhood became sort of a patriotic role. And in contrast, women who did 0.98

00:18:00.340 not marry and bear children could be labeled as unfeminine, idle, or unpatriotic. And in some

00:18:06.300 context, their childlessness was treated as some kind of social and societal betrayal, which I dig.

00:18:13.520 I love you. You're fantastic. But no, I agree. In Australia, there was a campaign in the 80s,

00:18:20.540 even, that said one for the dad, one for the mom, and one for the state.

00:18:24.620 Oh, I love that.

00:18:25.520 I mean, that's three. 0.96

00:18:27.460 That's the number that Russia is going for. 0.83

00:18:29.320 So yeah, still hanging on to that. 0.78

00:18:31.500 Though in the 20th century, so starting in the 1900s, motherhood shifted from respectability

00:18:37.840 and religious virtue and patriotism to this scientific management.

00:18:45.060 So with the rise of industrialization and urbanization and new professions, there was this like intensive expert driven model of motherhood with scientific childbearing advice and emerging welfare states and everything sort of framed mothers as managers of children's physical and psychological development.

00:19:03.680 You even saw this kind of starting with the Victorian era where like women were in charge of the household and like managing all these things.

00:19:09.460 And this is where you actually get the first cracks, but only starting in the 1960s, where women were starting to critique the concept of compulsory motherhood. And they were like, oh, well, this limits my education and my work and my autonomy. And this is, of course, the result of families starting to atomize everything and no longer look at families as this cohesive unit, but rather look at everyone as individuals. 0.63

00:19:33.600 And when everyone starts leaning out of the family, then it suddenly becomes, well, what about me? What about my education? What about my identity? When really everyone should be leaning into this one thing, which is, you know, this unbroken chain you've been a part of for millions of years. It shouldn't terminate with you, but whatever.

00:19:48.880 and then you finally get the rise of the child free movement only really in the early 21st

00:19:54.340 century so after the year 2000 is when suddenly you start getting things i mean the term dink

00:19:59.460 is super new dual income yeah like that's yeah yeah this concept of like being proud of it and

00:20:05.640 identifying aspirationally child free yeah is really modern it was not true even when i was

00:20:14.040 growing up nobody nobody was aspirationally child-free yeah it was still sad it was like oh

00:20:20.400 you know this is like it was viewed as some form of misfortune or or selfishness or coldness or

00:20:27.620 career obsession and like oh you know she's a little off like it was still she's a little off

00:20:33.580 and then you could brag about it like it's not that nobody bragged about it but they came off 1.00

00:20:38.580 the same way that like a militant lesbian would today or something like that right like 0.94

00:20:42.660 somebody who is incredibly detached from society and its values and is attempting to aggressively 1.00

00:20:48.300 signal to you. Deviation from societal norms and like mainstream respectability and sort of proudly

00:20:55.100 so. But now this concept of childlessness or child family size limitation is something that

00:21:01.400 people even use to virtue signal. Like, you know, Harry and Meghan back before they became disgraced

00:21:05.200 being like, well, we're never going to have more than two children because it's bad for the

00:21:09.100 environment. You know, so even people having children, trying to virtue signal their choice

00:21:15.200 to not have more children. And that is really the tipping point. And so here you see with this

00:21:21.000 policy, Russia trying to subtly change that default of no, this is not virtuous. Something

00:21:28.960 is mentally wrong with you. Go see a shrink, which I think is actually pretty good. I like it.

00:21:35.820 it's a favorable what do you think no i mean i i of all of the strategies i have heard around this

00:21:43.540 i think this is a very good strategy for multiple reasons i think that there are better ways it could

00:21:49.100 be implemented than government shrinks like if you implemented this through mainstream shrinks

00:21:54.440 but you said if x percent of your patients like you know we have a registry right and if somebody's

00:21:59.520 like i'm already seeing a shrink and then you your license was under review um you get enormous

00:22:04.820 pressure as a psychologist to talk your patients in to this particular life path and i think that

00:22:12.020 there are and and to glorify and normalize being a mom like have you thought about it what's holding

00:22:18.500 you up why don't you have a partner yet right so it's like going to your parents house every time

00:22:23.060 you go to a shrink so why don't you have a partner yet did you did you follow through with the things

00:22:27.220 you were going to follow through with and the other things i think it could also be expanded

00:22:32.180 into other environments like high school life counselors even bring back those dating

00:22:39.140 instructional videos yes simone loves those so good but i think yeah and and and i think in

00:22:49.620 posters in advertisements to talk about the disease of childlessness like to frame it as

00:22:59.860 as the way it used to be framed like a barrenness and pitiable you know like having people gossiping

00:23:06.140 about somebody being childless or something right you know like oh do you think you know

00:23:09.780 and that would do a lot to here's my thing though is i kind of i feel like a lot of these cultural

00:23:17.220 efforts when you look for example at what russia has done it and when you see china too like

00:23:22.260 china's statues of one child family suddenly turning into three child families and stuff

00:23:27.560 I feel that that has a very distinct dystopian ring to it and as much as I love motherhood medals

00:23:34.280 because of that because it causes the extra buzz but then causes people to be like well but yeah

00:23:38.860 actually what's wrong with rewarding people who sacrifice their lives to raise good citizens I

00:23:43.640 I don't know like tell me if I'm crazy here I just feel like over time intuitively I know it

00:23:50.660 will never happen and this is why I still lean on culture most as the most feasible intervention

00:23:55.420 but if i were empress of the world the one and only thing i would do add it to the dsm

00:24:03.440 no i would just for the period when parents are raising children so they have children

00:24:12.180 in their households that are under 18 years no income tax yeah i think the we should do that

00:24:20.260 the reason why it would never pass like that is you would need to say no income tax until you get

00:24:27.940 to a certain level because that's fine actually no that's not exactly because the because then

00:24:34.200 people keep in line malcolm the wealthiest people don't have income no true it's all it's all

00:24:40.720 investments and stuff so i even i am like i'm fine with capping it at like you know up to whatever

00:24:46.440 like five hundred thousand dollars or two hundred like i don't care like 200 like whatever i don't

00:24:51.160 like but here's the thing is middle class families are the ones that are hit hardest by the costs of

00:24:56.520 raising children but they're also the ones that are producing the highest tax-paying children and

00:25:01.000 citizens who are going to prop up the social right well okay this is the way i would handle this if

00:25:04.540 i was going to do it it would be a progressive thing where you need to have five kids to have

00:25:11.780 no income tax and you get a one-fifth of that with every kid that you have potentially scaling

00:25:18.380 so like not i just i think that people should be rewarded by it more as they make more income and

00:25:25.860 this is like income generated by work done you know not investment income because you're not doing

00:25:30.180 work to oh people would freak out so much at that would people freak out about having to pay into a

00:25:36.500 tax system that supports other people's kids like already it just happens to be children

00:25:42.060 of people who are not generating any tax and we can fix this by shutting down public schools

00:25:45.880 yeah that's never gonna happen but anyway yeah i mean i don't bring it up a lot because it's

00:25:52.900 never gonna happen and i don't like talking about should haves because that's just it's

00:25:57.020 pointless there's no pragmatism to it well i mean public schools do need to be shut down though like

00:26:01.340 i i feel very strongly that they are one of the biggest forces of social negative disruption at

00:26:07.440 this point and that they are basically torture for children and that with ai they become increasingly

00:26:14.300 less relevant it kind of always happened though like even when you look back at actually i think

00:26:20.280 one of the bronte sisters died after attending a girl's school like ever since external schools

00:26:27.660 existed. They've been brutal and terrible. In general, what I've learned from the people in 1.00

00:26:33.780 the base camp network, who are better at this than I am, more informed about all these things,

00:26:38.640 and they've introduced me to all of this stuff. Basically, when kids start being raised by people

00:26:43.980 who are not related to them by blood, stuff goes wrong. They're not as invested. And when you go

00:26:49.600 back to the very earliest schools, as we understand them, sort of this industrial schooling model,

00:26:53.720 it's just not good and you know you have these dickensian schools they're just horrible you've

00:26:59.400 got dotheby's or aka do the boys school in nicholas nickleby just horrible places i mean

00:27:06.520 they always have been terrible and now they're they're still terrible but things are so complicated

00:27:11.740 you can't really shut them down because they're also a means of distributing a form of child care

00:27:17.060 in the United States where you're going to get arrested if your kid isn't being minded. So a lot

00:27:24.340 of parents can't function without the public school system because also they're going to like

00:27:28.600 well I mean we need an alternative to it somewhere where kids can go and learn by themselves during

00:27:32.820 the day. I know that's that was the whole model we were developing with the Collins Institute. It's

00:27:37.300 just that you can't get support for anything that's not like some kind of underprivileged

00:27:46.360 child with hepatitis program or you know some form of i don't know like if you want to try out

00:27:54.560 the collins institute it's operational you can try it at paresia.ai or collinsinstitute.org

00:27:58.540 it is inexpensive and it is a great ai educational thing for slightly older kids like once they can

00:28:04.280 read fluently then if you want to try out our project right now rfab.ai which is ai like

00:28:10.680 adventure chatbots companion chatbots and agentic models which we are constantly

00:28:15.480 anyway i thought this was a interesting one simone fascinating too i love the trump

00:28:24.120 administration even just amusing this like the next time we do things to the administration

00:28:28.340 i would 100 like if i could go back in and do those pitches to the administration

00:28:33.820 i would include this because obviously the administration's not the health health guidelines

00:28:40.600 encouraging encouraging single women women without children to see a therapist about being childless

00:28:49.300 because the media would freak out i like the metal hood mother sorry the metal hood the

00:28:56.980 motherhood metal more it's because it's more positive and cool i agree but it's less funny

00:29:03.200 i mean they did go completely apoplectic about that they were just like apoplectic whatever

00:29:09.180 the apple word they went apples they went apples and they said oh no it's proof we finally found

00:29:18.260 the proof that they're nazis oh my god they got the nazi medal they're already now they love they

00:29:25.760 just loved that when we submitted that executive order well thank you i love our public profile

00:29:33.580 it's dead it's great it's i'm i'm i'm scooting on it i love it i'm having fun with it more of

00:29:40.940 that more of that always all right and for dinner tonight we are doing

00:29:46.900 rendang yes rendang very excited for that oh and you can even mix in some peppers if they're still

00:29:54.780 good yeah i'll check okay okay love you love you and a great episode simone thank you so much

00:30:04.180 do you want to do another or do you want to what do you want for dinner i'm making octavian

00:30:09.060 and titan giant pancakes because they've demanded giant pound cakes pancakes yeah so this one day

00:30:18.060 i made like normal size pancakes and then i made one super giant one and octavian just thought it

00:30:23.380 is the best thing in the world and like like a perfectly round japanese looking one you know like

00:30:29.300 the you don't watch i'll have rendang and rice on instagram so i guess you would never know

00:30:35.400 you're pan frying stuff so i'll have rendang and rice and the the rendang cooked with coconut oil

00:30:42.980 to coconut milk coconut milk yeah whatever to make it a bit less thick do you want me to add

00:30:51.700 of hoisin sauce or some sambalak?

00:30:54.520 For rendang?

00:30:55.720 Yeah, I think rendang could deal with some hoisin sauce

00:30:59.620 and a bit of sambalak, actually, yeah.

00:31:02.900 Not as much as normal, 0.91

00:31:04.120 but I think that that'll add a bit of a kick to it.

00:31:06.280 All right, we're on.

00:31:09.080 Okay, okay, let me get my...

00:31:14.140 Right, okay.

00:31:15.680 You found flower petals?

00:31:17.480 Oh my God, are they coming from the tree?

00:31:19.960 They come from all these flowers.

00:31:23.120 Wow, you ever seen anything like that before?

00:31:25.800 Yeah, but what day is it?

00:31:28.260 Well, it's spring.

00:31:29.680 That's why there's flower petals everywhere.

00:31:32.400 Yeah.

00:31:33.640 Do you like spring?

00:31:35.520 Yeah, because I get to see all the flowers.

00:31:40.060 I like it in the flowers.

00:31:41.960 I see flower petals, right?

00:31:44.160 Okay, I'm going.

00:31:46.040 More flower petals. 0.79

00:31:49.380 Wow, that's a lot of flower petals.

00:31:59.660 I've never seen anything like this.

00:32:01.300 This is crazy.

00:32:07.340 Flower petals?

00:32:08.260 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:32:19.360 flower petal fight?

00:32:21.360 Yeah. 0.99

00:32:23.360 Flower petal fight! 0.99

00:32:27.360 Flower petal fight! 0.53

00:32:31.360 Flower petal fight!

00:32:35.360 Fights!

00:32:37.360 Can I just stay here?

00:32:41.360 It's going to stay here.

00:32:43.360 It's going to be like this way.

Based Camp - April 22, 2026

Russia Makes Childless Women See a Psychologist (Should We Adopt This System？)

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