Based Camp - ＂Scientists＂ Say Babies Need Consent For Diaper Changes

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone! Today, we are going to be talking about children and consent, and infants and

00:00:07.640 consent. And we are going to be using, it went viral a while ago, this story where a leftist

00:00:13.420 university, specifically it was the Deakin University in Australia, suggested that you

00:00:18.860 ask your baby consent before changing their diapers. Simone is just sharing a story about 1.00

00:00:23.520 changing Texas diapers, so, you know, on topic here. But it comes off as ridiculous at face value,

00:00:31.220 but I want to look at it from their eyes, not like the other people covering. I want to see how they

00:00:35.580 argue for it, why they think it's important, right? And then I want to go from there to look at other

00:00:42.040 instances in which parents and parental advocates have been advocating for extreme consent searching

00:00:50.060 from children before like punishment and everything like that. And we saw this like in my Stephen

00:00:53.940 Molyneux debate where, you know, like asking for consent for a timeout? Well, they don't do timeouts

00:00:59.500 because the kid wouldn't consent to it, right? You know, it's only gentle parenting, only nice

00:01:03.140 parenting. And so I want to go into this philosophy in its extremes, but I'm also going to be arguing

00:01:08.840 that a lot of people have misunderstood. And I think where the concept of consent creeped into

00:01:14.780 children's literature and the concept of children needing consent is that for whatever reason,

00:01:21.020 the urban monoculture decided to use a lack of consent to argue why, you know, we do not have

00:01:29.220 sex with minor. And I actually think that that's completely stupid. Like that is not why you don't

00:01:35.920 have sex with a minor consent. And I, I, I mean, I've argued this was animals where I point out that,

00:01:41.080 you know, the reason we don't have sex with animals, isn't that the animal can't consent

00:01:44.820 because we eat animals and we like raise them in a state of constant torture. If you're talking

00:01:50.520 about veal or farm chicken or something like that, and people protest that, but you know, they're,

00:01:56.120 they're, they're the same type of like, Oh, consent, consent, consent. You know, it's why we don't

00:01:59.960 do it. It's a disease risk with animals. Yeah. That's why a lot of cultures convergently evolved

00:02:05.440 that particular belief, but with children, I point out here that, okay, like you've got like a 15

00:02:12.600 year old or something like that, right? Like a 15 year old in terms of their cognition is well

00:02:20.100 more advanced than many elderly individuals, many mentally handicapped individuals. Sure.

00:02:27.440 They're actually fairly sharp. They're almost as smart as pigs.

00:02:31.360 As a kid. I'm kidding. Okay. And I think even if you go back of it, I mean, I think even like 13

00:02:38.880 year olds and 12 year olds are fairly smart, like smarter. I I'd say that the average, like 13 year

00:02:43.820 old I talked to, it's smarter and more cognitively there than the average person I'm talking to in a

00:02:48.820 nursing home. Oh no, like 100%. I mean, people in nursing homes on average are dealing with pretty

00:02:54.300 severe cognitive decline. Plus they're also super set in their ways. Whereas people who are teens are in

00:02:59.360 this incredible position, but I mean, you could even argue that an eight year old is there because

00:03:05.940 also the eight year old is unencumbered by all of the hormonal vicissitudes that a teenager has to

00:03:11.640 endure. So the point being is nobody or very few people are arguing that people in nursing home

00:03:18.560 shouldn't be having sex. That's actually, people have like the most sex. Yeah. People are like power to 0.95

00:03:23.440 the people like, yeah, split it up. Like this big thing of like people sleeping around a lot in

00:03:27.980 like, yeah, STDs being a really big issue in nursing homes. Yeah. And nursing homes. But I, I think

00:03:32.780 there's very few people, even a lot of lefties that would argue that like a 13 year old should be

00:03:37.120 sleeping around. And so it's, it's clearly, even for them, they understand intuitively it isn't a

00:03:41.600 consent issue. And this will be a lot of what I'm talking about in this piece. And I've talked about

00:03:47.480 it before, but I think it's very important for people to grok is it's a stage of development

00:03:52.340 issue. It's at that stage of development, are you expected to take, you know, sort of internal

00:04:00.020 responsibility for the way you relate to rules, the way you relate to the world around you? Are you

00:04:04.000 essentially supposed to be living under a guardian or are you not? Like, is that the way your brain

00:04:08.380 is structured? And when you're living under a guardian, obviously the guardian has final say on

00:04:14.400 the things you do and do not do, right? The punishments, et cetera. And, and we'll be arguing that

00:04:19.980 you are cognitively sort of loaded to be living in this environment and to take a younger person

00:04:26.180 out of this environment can actually be very damaging. And not just with a guardian, but I

00:04:31.600 also think, and this is something that we do a lot with our parenting with, with, with fear,

00:04:36.060 with uncertainty, with this was all normal in an ancestral context. And we removed this from

00:04:41.400 people's lives. And I think did a lot of damage. And you can see our video where we point out that

00:04:46.400 you actually see like, you know, when you're looking at some rates of like mental health issues

00:04:49.820 and stuff like that, you see them at higher rates in wealthier young girls than like young girls who

00:04:55.220 live in more urban or, or less wealthy environments. And that is like, it's a suburb girl thing. Right. 0.98

00:05:01.540 And I argue that that's because their brain is, is trying to search for threats. And when you remove

00:05:07.580 all of the threats from their lives, they begin to assign everything a threat. Like, well, Donald Trump is

00:05:11.880 trying to put me in the breeding pens, right? Like everybody, every guy who looks at me wrong wants

00:05:17.920 to grate me. You know, I'm, I'm in a constant threat because somebody said that they disagree

00:05:23.020 with my view of gender, right? Like they're, they're trying to wipe out my people, right? Like 1.00

00:05:27.680 they invent all of these existential threats because their brain is meant to deal with existential

00:05:33.240 threats. And this is part of why we do Krampus and everything like that with our kids and,

00:05:37.680 and when to go and everything. But let's start with nappy changes are not just a chore to rush

00:05:43.920 through. You can use them to teach consent. And this is from the, that's that school in Australia.

00:05:49.180 Okay. This is 2023 paper. There has been a lot of focus on the need to teach older children about

00:05:55.560 consent. And this link that they have here, I think it's very telling to what I'm talking to about

00:05:59.660 here. It's, it's, it's about teaching teenagers about consent as it relates to sex. And I'm like,

00:06:06.120 that is clearly not like what we're talking about with nappies, but you can see that they're

00:06:10.840 literally drawing that, that thread very directly in this sort of. I can see how your average

00:06:15.220 progressive would get there because nappies are an instance in which people are coming into direct

00:06:20.720 content, contact with your no-no zones. So I, it can kind of see it. Yeah. Like it's just saying

00:06:28.780 like when your no-no zone is exposed and people are touching it, you need to have a conversation

00:06:32.740 about consent. Like they're not, they're not trying to say it's the same thing, but they're

00:06:36.460 trying to say in these contexts, you know, like just be conditioned that this is all,

00:06:42.000 this is consent conversation time because my pants are down, that kind of thing.

00:06:46.300 Yeah. Well, and I think that I've always actually found it very weird at doctor's offices where

00:06:51.540 the doctor always is like, you know, telling my kid, well, you know, it's okay that I'm doing this

00:06:56.480 because your dad is here or, you know, like. Wait, they say that? Yeah. You never do doctors

00:07:01.580 with it. So she doesn't. Yeah. So I wouldn't know. That's what? Are you serious? Yeah. But

00:07:06.020 they're like, this is, this is something that normally you shouldn't let somebody do.

00:07:09.500 Do you think they've been told to do that by their law firm? They don't get sued or something?

00:07:16.400 I mean, I don't know. Like for me and for our family, I like, I just do not think a lot about

00:07:22.040 like nudity one way or the other. Like when our kids get up, we change them, whatever.

00:07:27.260 But obviously this- We're not allowed to because our kids just insist on randomly taking off their

00:07:31.680 clothes and nothing we do, including keeping the temperature of the house at 53 degrees

00:07:36.040 seems to stop them from doing it. They just can't stop. Reporters are here or whatever.

00:07:40.880 And Torsten will just take off his pants and run. And I'm like, why? We get, we get schwifty in here.

00:07:47.580 Getting schwifty. Yeah. All the time. Anyway,

00:07:49.680 but parents should not wait until kids are teenagers to talk about appropriate touching

00:07:54.440 or how everyone has the right to say what happens to their body. In fact, the earlier parents talk

00:07:59.800 about this with their kids, the better. And what's very interesting here is you can see how

00:08:03.440 so naturally the idea of gender transitioning children comes from this. If your parents need

00:08:09.660 to ask consent to even touch you as an infant, if your parents need to ask consent to touch you as

00:08:15.380 a preteen. Well, and look at the words here, right? Parents should not wait until kids are

00:08:22.680 teenagers to talk about appropriate touching or how everyone has a right to say what happens to

00:08:27.280 their own body, right? Like it's clearly implying whatever your age, you have a right to say what

00:08:31.980 happens to your body. So you can see like a direct precursor, right? To this philosophy becoming

00:08:37.160 normalized, which is one of the reasons I'm talking about this. This way consent becomes a normal

00:08:42.420 everyday part of life. Importantly, it also helps to keep kids safe from abuse as they learn what is

00:08:48.660 okay and isn't okay when it comes to their bodies. You can start teaching little ones about consent 1.00

00:08:55.080 even before they can talk. Here's how you can do this during everyday care. And I love this,

00:09:02.440 this, their bodies, their bodies. It's like a word I would never use about my children because like,

00:09:08.760 I guess it's a little creepy. It's creepy, right? Like it's an inherently sexualizing term.

00:09:15.180 Try not to rush. Nappy changes can easily be seen by parents as a task to rush through

00:09:20.780 and just quote, get done. It seems like something that has been written by people who do not change

00:09:26.420 diapers. Right? Have you changed a diaper, sir? Oh my God. So, but this can be a time to help

00:09:36.060 children learn about consent and how their bodies work. And here's linking to other articles that

00:09:42.180 we'll go into. Toileting is something young children will take charge of in the future.

00:09:47.920 What happens before learning how to use the toilet should not be a mystery. Be clear about what's going

00:09:54.440 on. At the start of a nappy change, ensure your child knows what is happening. Get down on their

00:10:00.080 level and say, you need a nappy change and then pause so they can take this in.

00:10:06.580 Have you ever done that, Simone? They just need a moment to grieve, don't they?

00:10:12.600 This is so antithetical because I change our kids' diapers all the time. And I'm just like,

00:10:16.880 you pick it up, you sniff, then throw them on the table, throw them on the table,

00:10:22.340 just change it, let them run off again. Right? Like the idea that you would like get down.

00:10:27.200 It's like, it's very similar. If you've seen videos of sheep shearing, I feel it's kind of

00:10:32.220 like that. Like you grab it and you become like fast as you can go. Yeah. And they're acting like

00:10:38.320 a, like a salon or something like that for sheep. Yeah. Yeah. And we're like, ah, and the sheep's

00:10:44.140 like, you know, like whatever, you know, you got to kind of restrain them a little. I don't know,

00:10:48.440 like maybe not everyone has to restrain their kids during diaper changes, but our kids are like,

00:10:52.240 oh, it's wrestling time. Let's go. And that's not great when there's, when there are little turds 0.81

00:10:58.260 flying, not my favorite, but around like 18 months, that's when our kids decide, oh, I control you while

00:11:06.380 doing this. Oh my God. So it gets worse. It gets worse. So that thing I just said, where they said

00:11:13.540 to like, get down on their level and say, you need a nappy change. So I'm on my haunches. I'm looking my

00:11:18.300 kid in the eye and I'm asking them to let it settle in. Yeah. So this is happening before you have

00:11:24.180 taken them to the table. Yeah. What you're supposed to do. Okay. Is you say, do you want to walk slash

00:11:32.960 crawl with me to the change table? Crawl with me? To carry you. Girl, do you have to buy knee pads for 0.97

00:11:40.260 this? What are we doing? Crawl with them to the changing table. I'm not. Oh, no. So you know the age

00:11:49.600 where every time I bend down, I'm like, okay, what else can I do on down here? Like, let's batch it.

00:11:56.400 You know, if I've done this, we got to make the most of it. We're going to be down here for a while

00:12:01.760 now. This is, I'm not. No, no, we're not doing. Oh my God. Can we look, can we figure out if this

00:12:10.780 person is a parent? They must be a parent to one. Maybe I assume somebody on the team is

00:12:17.060 like the kind of person who takes like a year of maternity leave because they're like, yeah, I 0.99

00:12:22.520 really, this honestly sounds to me like somebody who just had a kid and is fantasizing about what

00:12:29.220 it's going to be like to raise them instead of having actually raised a kid. Yeah. Yeah. I

00:12:33.420 think we all have, especially like, no, probably all of us have that friend on social media who

00:12:38.240 hasn't yet had kids, but he's like, and this is how I'm going to be a mother and it's going to be

00:12:42.600 so much better. But the, the point here being is that if the child it's implied here does not

00:12:50.320 walk with you or crawl to the table, they don't want their nappy change. They just get to live with

00:12:55.000 diaper rush. They get to have anal fissures and open lesions. They're into crinkling, Simone. 0.85

00:13:01.460 Lots of furries are into this. We need to be aware of their furry identity. No, I think, I don't,

00:13:06.440 here's the thing is like, I think for like, sorry, adult baby diaper lovers, ABDLs love, love to do it.

00:13:16.080 Like they get off on the rush, maybe making other people smell their, the product of their

00:13:21.580 certification. However, anyone who's actually dealt with poop and diapers, like either because

00:13:29.880 like, I don't know, they're bedridden and they're wearing a diaper and there's poop or like they've

00:13:34.580 had a kid who has gone to a crappy daycare where they don't change their kid's diaper. And their kid

00:13:39.460 ends up with like open wounds in their butt because of their terrible daycare. Thank God, we don't send

00:13:45.060 our kids to daycare anymore. You know, like long-term exposure to, to poop is really bad for this kid.

00:13:53.360 It's really bad. Like, no, I don't think ABDLs are, are crinkling for very long. If anything, it's,

00:14:00.380 it's urine. It's not the other thing. I don't know about that. I mean, I've read, I've, I've watched

00:14:05.920 the Rainforest documentaries on YouTube. Okay, Simone. The, the point I made. Didn't they leave some of

00:14:11.200 their nappies in the elevators though? Like the, the, the diaper has been removed. Hot tubs and

00:14:16.000 stuff. Yeah. So the diaper has been removed. Like they're not walking around with it. Like also our

00:14:21.600 kids sometimes without like informing us before we even smell it, like we'll just go ahead and just

00:14:26.820 take off the diaper. And that's always the scariest when you can smell it. And then your kid walks up to

00:14:32.160 you, your pre-potty trained kid without pants and without their diaper. And you're like, Oh God.

00:14:41.200 That is, that is horrifying. But the point I'm making here is they're basically saying that the

00:14:47.240 kid can consent to do something. And the reason I highlight this is because I think it, it really

00:14:51.420 mirrors youth gender transition where they're doing something that is actively and obviously harmful 0.92

00:14:56.080 to them. And the adult for like a weird sexualized reasons is okay with them doing it right. Like

00:15:02.060 yeah, the adult doesn't know better that the kid needs to change their diapers. Right.

00:15:06.920 Or it's, I mean, this could be, if we're going to be super charitable, part of the other better

00:15:12.000 parenting trend, which is the F around and find out parenting trend, which we 100% ascribe

00:15:16.980 to, which is all right. You want to see how that goes? Let's see how it goes. Except the

00:15:21.920 problem is typically when we're talking about P pre potty trained children, they're not really

00:15:26.680 old enough to understand that cause and effect. So I think it's an unfair and unduly cruel F around

00:15:32.240 and find out parenting hack, if that's what this is. To continue, observe their facial

00:15:38.480 expressions and body language to check if they don't understand what is happening. Aim to be

00:15:44.180 positive, gentle, and responsive to your child. The one thing that your kid has done since the

00:15:49.760 moment they got out of the womb is having people change their diapers. Like next. Well, no, I love

00:15:57.320 this, this, this, like, you got to be positive and gentle all the time. It reminds me of the

00:16:00.900 Harmony hut from like the Adams family. Nemo, all they need are good friends, good fun and

00:16:05.880 a little time in the Harmony hut. Why not? I just wanted to read. Not on my time, four eyes.

00:16:19.260 Oh, what's going on? What is happening to me? No, they know that this has happened at a minimum of

00:16:24.980 every three hours for as long as they can remember. Like, this is not a new and traumatic

00:16:30.380 event. I can't. I think you can make it a traumatic event by like doing all this stuff that this is

00:16:37.740 talking about. Would you, would you like consent for me to change your diaper? Are you okay?

00:16:43.960 Oh my God. You know what, what scares me now is because I'm seeing your face doing that and you're

00:16:48.640 like a beautiful woman. And I'm imagining the people who actually do it look like complete,

00:16:52.440 like gremlins. And now I'm like, Oh God, like that's, that's even more horrifying.

00:16:58.420 I have to send you a YouTube short where someone does a bit on like, you just had a baby and your

00:17:04.160 husband says he has gas and it you'll get it. Or maybe you won't. If you haven't seen me like do

00:17:10.180 all the anti-gas and anti-constipation exercises on our kids. But yeah, no, when, when you actually

00:17:16.060 like think about what babies are experiencing from their point of view, from adults during all of the

00:17:21.800 like baby treatment experiences, I don't know. It's not my thing. It's not my fetish. Okay.

00:17:30.460 I'm glad. I'm glad. Children are often encouraged to be distracted in nappy changes to focus their

00:17:39.400 attention on something else. For example, a well-meaning parent signs a song, sings a song to

00:17:44.720 them or gives them a rattle to hold, but it's important children notice when someone is touching

00:17:49.700 their most intimate parts. It says, don't distract your child. Why is it important that the child

00:17:55.480 noticed when somebody is touching them? Like that again, seems weird. Like why, why do I want my

00:18:01.760 kid? It's like, I really want you to focus on what I'm doing to you right now. Like be completely here

00:18:08.220 in this zone as I change you. Right. And, you know, I wonder how these weird fetishes develop.

00:18:13.340 But now I'm like, maybe this is it. Like parents who ritualize diaper changes.

00:18:19.400 Yeah. Seriously. Even in early infancy, children can respond to consistent verbal cues. So try to

00:18:27.360 use similar language and follow a regular nappy exchange. Oh, so now we're ritualizing it. Now,

00:18:32.860 now it's like a BDSM practice. Yes. It involves children in the conversation. For example,

00:18:38.320 can you please lift up your bottom so I can slide your nappy out? Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, 0.96

00:18:44.880 no. This is sounding like someone with a baby fetish. It does. Right. Oh no. Is that what this

00:18:51.140 is? No. Don't make me listen to this. Oh God. This is university research approved by one of the

00:18:58.280 people. That doesn't mean it's not that. Come on. Come on. No, no, no, no. Oh, okay. Just let's

00:19:03.900 get through it. Let's white knuckle it. No, no. And then they say these habits plant the seed of the

00:19:08.420 idea that a child has a right to say what happens to their body. And, and it's taking us to a blog

00:19:13.760 family, how good diaper changes tells babies about the world. But anyway, before I, I go to that and then

00:19:21.100 of course, what's the next most important thing while you're giving the baby the creepy diaper

00:19:25.420 change? It's be kind to yourself. Of course, some nappy changes that need to be more rushed are in

00:19:33.780 the odd place. Perhaps you are late for work or you need to pull over to the side of the road,

00:19:37.980 road to do so in an urgent position. The habits we outline above may seem to add more work to the

00:19:43.860 already demanding parental load. So try to do them as often as possible and be kind to yourself.

00:19:49.460 If every nappy change isn't perfect for moments of connection, you're a supporting a small child.

00:19:56.340 After all use the proper terms while you're doing the nappy change, use the correct anatomical terms.

00:20:03.300 Oh no, vulva, penis, and anus. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We have euphemisms for

00:20:10.580 that. Like I don't pretend to be the best potty trainer or talk about private parts person with our

00:20:18.080 kids. And I will say that I've recently learned things from other people. Like from our neighbors,

00:20:23.340 we learned about the words Dodie and Fwippy. And I think that's great. 1.00

00:20:29.600 Because Fwippy is for boys and Dodie is for girls. 0.74

00:20:31.460 Yeah. And you know what? That is what we call it.

00:20:33.640 That's great. It's completely non-sexualized. And I think it works better for, you know,

00:20:39.680 the morphological traits that children have as opposed to like adults.

00:20:43.660 Maybe that's a great word for it. Why on earth would you call it anything else?

00:20:47.620 Why would you call it a vulva? Like the-

00:20:49.980 Yeah, Dodie sounds way better. I, yeah. There's honestly like no word for,

00:20:54.780 there's no word for the thing betwixt the ladies and others that I think is fun.

00:21:01.720 But the reason, the reason why I think it's important to do this, to, to have these other

00:21:06.620 words is as adults, sexual organs are inherently sexualized was in our mental context. And they're

00:21:13.740 going to be, yeah. And they're going to be for children as they learn these adult words,

00:21:17.660 right? Because that's the context they're going to learn them in, right? Like that's the context

00:21:21.740 they are spoken of in society. That's the context that they are 99.99999% of the time when somebody

00:21:28.740 is talking about one of them, because people are very sexual beings as adults is going to be in

00:21:32.840 a sexualized context. And so to de-sexualize them in the way that you're interacting with them,

00:21:37.800 because they are not sexual organs for children.

00:21:40.600 They're body parts. Yeah. I mean, well, especially because like you pee out of,

00:21:46.240 I mean for men, you pee out of one, like it doesn't have, like it, you spend the, men's vast 0.83

00:21:51.860 majority of interactions or uses of their whippies is for urination, for eliminating liquid 0.84

00:21:58.640 waste. You know, like it's not, it's so, so, you know, if, if, if 99% of your usage of a body part

00:22:06.560 is, is about elimination, why is your first thing to do to sexualize it? That is so weird.

00:22:13.500 Right. But it makes sense in their world framework. Remember in their world framework,

00:22:17.200 like everything is sexualized to an extent, because that's one of the core things of identity,

00:22:21.340 like what you are turned on by most. Yeah. For example, you know, if it's same sex interactions,

00:22:27.760 if it's, you know, furries, if it's something else, that's like a huge core part of your identity,

00:22:32.620 right? Which we would argue it's a fairly trivial part of your identity. And, and, and I think that

00:22:36.860 that is why they sexualize things so early. And so it goes on to say in regards to that,

00:22:41.000 like it knows the way we're going to react. It says, parents may feel uncomfortable doing this

00:22:45.000 and think more childish names should be used, but this keeps children safe. That means they can inform

00:22:50.220 trusted adults about their experiences with all the people who care for them. That is,

00:22:55.480 if the kids have a word for it, childish or not, they can express it to you, right? They do not need

00:23:02.840 the sexualized term for it. Like it is weird that you are saying that. And that makes you one of the

00:23:08.240 adults. Like if a kid came to me and he immediately knew one of these words, that could be a big red flag

00:23:14.500 to me that somebody was having inappropriate conversations with them. Yeah, we would be worried,

00:23:19.080 wouldn't we? And so it actually gives you additional warning when something bad is happening.

00:23:23.640 And no, we're, we are not like early colonial Quakers where when women would go see doctors,

00:23:32.360 anything that was between like their head and their knees was like my stomach. They, you know,

00:23:37.780 they would never talk about those things. I think that's a problem too. Like you have to be able to

00:23:41.560 talk about body parts and we use euphemisms for them, but like, you know, so we're not saying don't

00:23:47.720 talk about, we're not saying don't pretend it's there. We're not. And it's, we mentioned earlier,

00:23:51.740 like our whole house is like, I mean, we live in a really old house too. So like private bathrooms

00:23:57.220 are exactly a thing. They're just fricking toilets everywhere. Um, so like no one, no one believes in

00:24:02.600 privacy or boundaries or anything. And like, there's no, no concept of like, oh, except no, it's not.

00:24:09.420 No, no one, no one's nervous about nudity though. They are concerned about dressing properly around

00:24:13.700 people. Cause at first I was like, oh, like though Torsten always takes off his clothes and all of our

00:24:19.100 kids do at a bird, when we had a birthday party after he went to the bathroom, but his costume

00:24:24.540 wasn't on properly. He was like really self-conscious about that. So I know he knows the difference.

00:24:28.880 Like he wants to be properly dressed. He just doesn't care if people see. So yeah, I don't know.

00:24:33.360 Like, I think this is another, another instance in which the left is way too, or like the urban

00:24:40.500 monoculture, I should say is way too in its head. Like it overthinks.

00:24:44.040 It's not in its head. I mean, I think they're hurting kids. So another thing that they talk about in

00:24:47.120 this article and I won't go into it a lot is in that you shouldn't kiss or hug your kids

00:24:51.780 without consent. And I also think that this is really messed up. If you've actually had a toddler

00:24:56.760 kids, and you've had a lot of them, because not all toddlers are like this. Some of our kids,

00:25:01.100 they don't care about being kissed, but other of our kids, they like to put up a whole fight about

00:25:04.660 being kissed or hugged and they want to be kissed or hugged. It's just a game for them, right? Like

00:25:09.920 people are like this. They, they have fun being playfully bratty in a non-sexual

00:25:16.840 context, right? Like, and yeah, like we have one kid who will literally, even though they want

00:25:23.480 something, I'll be like, do you want a cookie? No. Yes. But everything has to start with no.

00:25:32.380 No. No. Yes.

00:25:35.440 One of my favorites with Swippy that came up with our kids was one of my kids, we moved him to the,

00:25:40.340 the older kid's seat, you know, like the, the booster seat. And I was like, okay, you're,

00:25:44.380 you're in the booster seat now. And he goes, oh, it's because my Swippy's bigger.

00:25:49.460 Are you serious? Oh God. I mean, that's, that is the size of the thing that we, that matters.

00:25:56.640 We got some measurement. Got to get out the, I was going to say calipers, but what would you even

00:26:01.480 use to measure a Swippy? Yeah. So we can go over more of this. We've, we've got one here. This is

00:26:10.040 early childhood at Australia, nappy changes and toilet learning to go into like, just a, a, a

00:26:18.880 medium part of this recontextual, recontextualizing nappy changes and toilet key times as learning

00:26:26.560 requires educators to facilitate opportunities for children to be actively involved. This supports

00:26:32.080 children to learn how to lead their toilet experiences independently in the future.

00:26:37.580 Your toilet experience. It's very weird. Wow. I mean, I think it's a toilet experience when you

00:26:45.240 have one of those really nice Japanese toto toilets and you get to push the buttons and stuff. That is

00:26:50.100 toilet experience. I'll support that. This is, this is very strange language to me here. It's important

00:26:57.920 for toileting to be an autonomous activity led by the child and not a process that families or educators

00:27:05.620 accelerate through training. Bleza et al. 2019. Why? Yeah, that's sus. Because first off,

00:27:14.480 if you are enjoying the process of changing your kids' diapers to the extent where you are not

00:27:19.500 dying to get them potty trained, I'm questioning you. But like our kids were not even close to getting

00:27:26.940 potty trained until we started bribery. And every, like it was both their, their, their,

00:27:32.260 they were in daycare at the time. So their daycare teachers and their ABA therapists,

00:27:36.440 because these were our older already diagnosed with, diagnosed with autism kids. We're like,

00:27:41.640 yeah, bribery, marshmallows, works. Bribery. Yeah. That's what you do. 0.99

00:27:45.240 Bribery. Yep. Or grease payments, if you will.

00:27:49.500 Well, I mean, you're using your power of systemic privilege over the child and power over them

00:27:55.260 to, because they don't have access to resources. This is what's like financial abuse, but

00:27:59.460 nutritional abuse. Systemic privilege of marshmallow. Right? Saying I'll only, I'll only give you access

00:28:03.840 to your allowance if you do X and Y. I'll only give you access to the marshmallow.

00:28:08.140 To the defecation box. Right?

00:28:10.720 We've recently been having a lot of conversations about what we do to things that defecate in the

00:28:15.340 wrong place in our house. Because I've, we live in a very old house and has a lot of holes

00:28:20.100 into the outside and there's a lot of food in our house and also a lot of kids that produce

00:28:23.620 crumbs. So what do we have? Mice, of course. So I've been killing the mice, a lot of mice

00:28:27.780 and the kids like to see the mice. And then we talk about why, because the mice are so cute

00:28:32.360 and fluffy and soft as Octavian likes to point out. He cried yesterday when he saw, he was like,

00:28:36.580 I want to see it. Then he started crying. And I'm like, you asked to see it. He's like,

00:28:40.840 why did it have to die? And I'm like, because it poops, it eats our food and it poops on the table

00:28:46.100 and it poops in our food and it ruins things. He's like, I'll teach it to not poop. I'll teach it to poop

00:28:51.220 in the potty. And he understood because I'm like, well, what happened? This one poops in the wrong

00:28:56.360 place in my house. And he's like, you kill them. And I'm like, that's right, Octavian. 0.99

00:29:02.420 That is how you raise kids.

00:29:04.340 This is how you have potty conversations.

00:29:07.360 Did you say what's going to happen if you poop in the wrong place?

00:29:10.520 That's the implied insinuation. And all of our kids understand it. Torsten gets it.

00:29:14.980 I can't remember. One of our kids, only one of our kids though. No, it was Torsten. We just decided

00:29:20.820 to poop on the floor. I think it was Torsten. One of our kids did it intentionally and like

00:29:25.360 proudly walked into the room and it was like, Oh my God. Here's another line from this one.

00:29:30.080 Okay. Through attuned routine experiences, children feel safe and are encouraged to

00:29:37.240 stay present in the moment. They learn that educators listen carefully to what they say

00:29:45.280 and pay attention to verbal and nonverbal cues.

00:29:48.240 Ew. So it's not even about like that euphoric moment where like you really had to go to the

00:29:52.700 bathroom and you're finally relieving yourself. It's the euphoria in pleasing your superiors.

00:30:01.000 So this was written by Dr. Kathleen Bussey, an infant and toddler specialist academic from New Zealand.

00:30:10.000 What is it with, why, why in Oceania are there all these, these potty perverts? 1.00

00:30:18.000 There's a lot of weird stuff in Australia and New Zealand, if I'm going to be honest,

00:30:21.120 in regards to like just about everything that I've seen.

00:30:23.460 Oh, but work with me here. Right. So like around Utah, there's a lot of interest in like polygamy and

00:30:34.880 like in the Appalachian region, there's like more interest in vore, right? Like the ultimate sport,

00:30:39.480 hunting humans. What if like the unique evolved fetish in Oceania is, is pedal potty stuff?

00:30:49.180 I don't know. Well, they, they, the other thing I've seen uniquely there is furry stuff.

00:30:55.340 There's a lot of correlation. I'm just saying, cause it's a little weird. Isn't it a little

00:31:02.780 convenient that all these. It is a little weird that it's a lot of. But also like we've seen in

00:31:08.000 all these other instances, just like these clusters of sexual proclivities. I'm just,

00:31:12.620 I'm just saying arousal pathways, not even sexual, just like talking about diapers. I love

00:31:21.060 the ritual of talking about the consent of bathrooms. I wonder if you've got another one

00:31:28.380 here in academia, wearing diapers and having someone else change their diapers for science.

00:31:34.360 So this, this blog called scary mommy, she has last year I was on Facebook and I saw one of my

00:31:39.660 friends talking about an article he had read on teaching babies consent by asking them permission

00:31:44.180 before changing their diaper. And then she goes on my friend, like many others, including myself at

00:31:48.820 first thought this concept was pretty out there to say the least. So yeah, right. Like she understands

00:31:54.460 it's crazy. Then she goes down the rabbit hole. So to skip ahead a bit, she explained that even

00:32:00.220 though babies cannot verbally give consent, she believed it was important to establish a

00:32:04.460 quote unquote culture of consent within the family from birth. Obviously the word consent

00:32:10.140 is used to imply that there is anything. Obviously the word consent is not used to imply that there's

00:32:15.420 anything sexual happening about diaper changes, but the expert points out the importance of using

00:32:20.360 consent language and making eye contact to teach our kids, even from a young page that we are present,

00:32:27.280 that we acknowledge them, that they are included. Are you supposed to make eye contact while changing

00:32:34.040 diapers per their view? That's extra creepy. What? No. Imagine, imagine if someone were changing your

00:32:44.260 diaper and they made eye contact while they did it. But why, why any of these things? Why does the child

00:32:52.180 need to feel your present? Like, actually I'd say a lot of times when I understand. Well, I don't know.

00:32:55.300 So dogs, when they're taking a dump outside, well, if you're right by them, you know, that they're

00:33:01.620 looking at you. They're, they're, you know, they're vulnerable. They want to know you got their back.

00:33:06.580 Right. I don't think that that's what she means. I think she means it in like a hippie way,

00:33:11.040 like being present in yourself and that you acknowledge them. Do you, do you need to acknowledge your kid

00:33:16.820 taking a dump? I don't want to. There's nothing that will make me feel more acknowledged than someone

00:33:21.340 wiping my butt. And I mean, I can say this having been, you know, like every 18 months I get

00:33:29.960 hospitalized and someone puts a catheter in me and then they have to take it out. Like people like

00:33:34.720 I've had, I've had diaper changing equivalent experiences, right? Like, and I'm glad they don't

00:33:39.920 make eye contact. And I'm glad that I'm not in the moment when that happens. They're not like, okay,

00:33:45.240 now I need you to, we need to have this be a joint experience here. Yeah, man. Like I always try to

00:33:50.780 get them to take the catheter out before all the woozy drugs fully wear off. Cause I don't really

00:33:54.800 want to be all there when that happens. Like I just can't. Okay. Hold on. I guess it gets wilder

00:34:00.500 here. In short, the point of having a dialogue with our babies during diaper changes and making

00:34:06.120 eye contact with them is to show them respect and to teach them that they deserve it.

00:34:11.740 No, no, no, no, no, no. For me, this is like, oh, you got to smile, smile. But then like,

00:34:20.280 what, what is it? Gorillas when they like bear their teeth, it's a sign of like aggression.

00:34:24.020 Like that. I feel like making eye contact with someone in that kind of intimate moment,

00:34:28.160 especially, you know, if you are doing this with a squirming child and holding them down,

00:34:32.520 like that is. Okay. Hold on. It gets weird because this one compares it to being old and says,

00:34:39.080 this is the way she'd want to be treated as an old person. Oh, no. Confirmed. ABDL confirmed.

00:34:44.820 ABDL confirmed. She's in it. She's in it. She'd be a crinkler if she's not already. And you know

00:34:49.500 what? There are a lot of very successful furries. Like I, I've, I've been following a lot of furry

00:34:54.500 subreddits recently. Cause like, you know, we want to like advertise to them. Well, I mean,

00:34:58.560 furries are like fine. Like furries. No, the other point, the exact point I'm making is like,

00:35:03.460 there's some of the more popular furry clips that I saw recently, like on, on furry subreddits is people

00:35:08.620 interviewing furries at a furry convention. And they're like, well, what do you do for work?

00:35:13.060 And it's like, oh, I'm an anesthesiologist. I'm a professor. I am like all these things,

00:35:17.700 all these very, like you are an educated, competent person whose financial affairs are in order.

00:35:23.120 Cause they kind of have to be for getting a $16,000 fursuit. Like these are cool based people

00:35:29.140 who understand themselves. I think maybe her problem is she doesn't know she's an ABDL.

00:35:34.520 And I'm not saying all furries are ABDLs. I'll read it and you can tell me your thoughts. Okay.

00:35:40.380 So envision being extremely old, so old that you have become very sick and you have lost your ability

00:35:46.420 to care for yourself or even talk. You completely rely on someone to be your caregiver.

00:35:51.960 No, you're relying on, on a grok robot. 0.99

00:35:55.680 To change your adult diaper. Now, hold on, hold on. I'm not done. Imagine how it would feel to go

00:36:00.720 through all those processes with no dialogue and no information about what was about to happen.

00:36:06.300 None or very little eye contact, but instead of being moved and, or held down like a doll,

00:36:12.180 for me, that personally sounds like a horror movie. I would want to have an idea of what was coming

00:36:17.400 next. So what I love about this is. Tell on yourself without telling on yourself, lady. 1.00

00:36:22.340 Yeah. Just so you know, it sounds like a horror movie to me that I'm like locked in and can't move.

00:36:27.080 And I've got this assistant who like stares at me in the eyes while they're changing my diapers.

00:36:34.220 I'm going to change your diapers now. I'm very present in the moment.

00:36:39.560 And you're very acknowledged. I'm going to begin now. Let's talk about your penis.

00:36:46.780 Oh my God.

00:36:48.700 I'd be like, Oh my God.

00:36:51.720 Yes. Worst nightmare. Worst nightmare.

00:36:54.360 No, I'm like, Oh, that happens to people though. There's real people stuck in situations like

00:37:00.360 that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank goodness that most of them are like, you know, it's an immigrant who 1.00

00:37:05.700 barely speaks English who would never do that to you because they, they understand one, that that

00:37:09.920 would be a miserable experience for everyone involved. They're, they're disassociating in a

00:37:14.420 very proactive and productive way as they're doing it. And so are you. All right. That, that is how it's

00:37:18.460 done. That's how we always do it. That's how we have done it. And that's how we will continue to do it.

00:37:22.580 Yeah. So maybe there's also just a base Chinese model, which is interesting where, and I remember

00:37:27.940 seeing this when I traveled to China, just kids are walking around with nothing. They're just

00:37:32.420 free balling it. Even though it's a little chilly.

00:37:34.280 It's coming to the Bahamas too.

00:37:35.640 Yeah.

00:37:36.000 Where I live down there. It's coming in a lot of places.

00:37:38.000 It just solves the problem. There is no conversation because the kid just, I don't know,

00:37:42.520 like they go somewhere. They got, they like, they potty train really early as a result, but like.

00:37:46.500 I know. I, what I've noticed is a lot of them just go outside. Cause a lot of this is in places

00:37:51.820 where you can.

00:37:52.380 Yeah. Where you'd be just going to wander outside and yeah. Do your thing. Yeah. It works. I mean,

00:37:57.120 so, I mean, if this is really your issue, talk about autonomy, right? Talk about self-empowerment.

00:38:02.720 So here's an article from adult, adult out of the conversation. It's the free bleeding of,

00:38:08.020 of toddler diaper changes.

00:38:09.880 Here's an article from motherly. It's never too early to teach kids about consent. These books

00:38:14.860 can help. And it goes over a bunch of books. And in one part it says, what is body autonomy?

00:38:20.100 Let's talk about boundaries, consent and respect in its simplest form. Consent is giving permission

00:38:25.280 for something to happen. At little feminists, we love the term. My body is mine. We aim to give

00:38:32.100 parents and caregivers the tools to create positive habits around bodily autonomy, not assuming consent

00:38:38.620 from children and teaching that kids have a right to decide what happens to their bodies.

00:38:44.300 Oh, I love this. They talk about raising empathetic body, positive kids. We want our kids to understand

00:38:51.180 that their body is their own and the importance of respecting each other's bodies and boundaries.

00:38:58.300 It literally sounds like Camp Chippewa from the, the, the, um,

00:39:02.900 It does. Oh, you're right.

00:39:04.620 It sounds like Camp Chippewa. It sounds horrifying to me. I have always identified so much with the

00:39:10.540 Addams Family and never more been in this moment in terms of like child rearing. We totally have to

00:39:16.140 do an episode on the Addams Family episode on school. And like, it's just got so many great lines.

00:39:21.580 It's from the original Addams Family.

00:39:23.100 That's so delightful. Did you watch it after I shared some clips with you?

00:39:26.780 No, I haven't.

00:39:27.020 Cool. That's for kids.

00:39:32.700 I'm sure the children are going to be very happy here.

00:39:36.140 If we wanted them to be happy, we'd have let them stay home.

00:39:41.180 Oh dear. I'm going to miss the pattern of their little feet sneaking up behind me.

00:39:47.580 That settles it. No more school.

00:39:49.660 Good thinking, sir.

00:39:52.380 That's all right for our children. But what about all the others?

00:39:55.900 I suppose you're right. We should do something just as ordinary citizens.

00:39:59.980 I haven't seen the whole thing yet. So it's, it's so fun.

00:40:03.020 And I saw the one that you sent me where they were like, well, you know,

00:40:08.620 your kids were going through all this at school and like, it may not be right for, for your kids,

00:40:13.500 but like, what about all the other kids? And then he's like, what about all the other kids?

00:40:17.020 He decides he needs to rescue all the kids from school.

00:40:20.860 Yeah. Yeah.

00:40:25.660 Oh my gosh. Oh my God. Here's a weird one. It's an article.

00:40:29.660 Why I don't make my kids apologize by motherly.

00:40:32.860 What?

00:40:35.020 I mean, I kind of get it because actions speak louder than words.

00:40:38.460 Well, hold on. No, no, no, no, no. It's worse than that. So it starts.

00:40:42.300 Do my children have to share? No.

00:40:44.540 No. Do my children have to apologize? Nope.

00:40:48.300 Do I suggest that they say the quote unquote magic word again? No.

00:40:54.460 Just if you want it, take it. If they can give it to you, punch them. This woman. 1.00

00:41:00.300 This is, she's raising like actual monsters. And what I love is there were other parents and I was

00:41:09.100 going to go into this in more detail where there was some moms that tried to raise their kids this 1.00

00:41:13.900 way and they realized it was a horrible thing. So here's a post for one of them. I validated every

00:41:20.460 emotion, processed every feeling extensively, explained every boundary, compromised on things,

00:41:26.060 avoided harsh punishments. I thought I was doing it right. Then my kids got older and I started seeing

00:41:31.100 the results in real time. One kid became anxious about everything, even choosing a snack, insecure

00:41:38.060 in their abilities, entitled, everything's up for debate, emotionally dysregulated, outbursts constantly.

00:41:45.900 The other kid became too easy, people-pleasing, suppressed real feelings, absorbed everyone's

00:41:53.180 emotions, withdrawn. I thought I was just quote unquote being a teenager. It wasn't, or I thought

00:41:59.660 it was just, I cried a lot. I had tried so hard to do everything right, to do things different from

00:42:06.300 what I had growing up. Here's what I realized. This is like how they, they, they screwed up their kids.

00:42:11.660 Right. Right. But she's talking, you can see also, I mean, not to bring in the whole nature versus

00:42:16.540 nurture thing, but like, she's clearly a person who has anxiety or like depression issues, emotional

00:42:22.380 regulation problems. Yeah. Was it any surprise that, I mean, probably regardless of any approach

00:42:28.380 she would have taken, her kids would have been emotionally dysregulated because it's fairly clear

00:42:33.100 from even this short excerpt that she herself is emotionally dysregulated.

00:42:37.340 She, she said she shifted to authoritative parenting with high structure. 0.93

00:42:42.540 It's probably not going to change anything because her kids are genetically wired that way. I don't

00:42:45.980 know how to say. Hold on, hold on. So she shifted to authoritative parenting. Okay.

00:42:49.660 Clear boundaries, consistent limits and natural consequences, which is what we do. Right. Yeah.

00:42:54.380 And she said the shift happened faster than she expected. She saw less anxiety over decisions,

00:43:01.180 more confidence to try new things, less negotiating and entitlement and better regulation.

00:43:06.380 Well, that's great. Now she just needs to do that for herself, but that would involve

00:43:11.340 leaving whatever progressive academic circle she works in.

00:43:14.940 Well, no, this, this woman is just like a mom. And she, she now says that she can spot within five 0.99

00:43:20.300 minutes when kids were raised by gentle parents. She says, these kids are anxious about everything,

00:43:25.420 making simple choices, saying how they really feel, handling any disappointment,

00:43:29.980 setting their own boundaries. And that's because parents emotionally charge

00:43:35.820 individual, like mistakes, the kids make and everything like that. Like everything is overly

00:43:40.700 emotional when you remove all of the, you know, just slap him, knock it off. You little, you know,

00:43:47.100 I'm going to go do my own thing. That's what I was called growing up a little shit. I don't even know

00:43:50.140 if you're allowed to do that anymore. That is by the way, an Appalachian name, even in the, the,

00:43:54.140 from the greater Appalachian tradition of what they called kids historically integrated. Yeah.

00:43:59.340 I think, I think it was innovated in the American colonies by the, the Appalachian,

00:44:05.180 the greater Appalachian diaspora. Yeah. And I, I'm afraid to call my kids

00:44:08.700 little shits cause I'm afraid of like a news team hearing it, but it is. Well, and we're just,

00:44:12.460 we're trying not to use bad words around them just in general, but it, it's, it's a bummer. Cause it's,

00:44:20.140 it's, you know, it's part of your, the point being is what's going through my head emotionally,

00:44:23.740 just like knock it off, you little shit, you know, like, and, and with them, they're, 0.67

00:44:28.060 they're validating the emotions. They're validating even the bad behavior by getting,

00:44:32.220 you know, all up about it. Right. And it leads to the kids over emotionalizing everything.

00:44:38.300 And our kids just like, do not do that at all. Like we have autistic kids, but we do not have 1.00

00:44:43.420 anxious kids. And I think our kids would be hyper prone to this sort of behavior if it was validated.

00:44:48.620 Josh. Yeah. It didn't occur to me just how lucky we are that our kids aren't anxious.

00:44:55.980 They really don't seem to dread anything. No, they love playing. They love pushing

00:45:00.780 each other around. They love doing dangerous things. Too much, too much. I did it to the kid.

00:45:08.220 I jumped off the, the, the third story. I know like in the end, as much as like,

00:45:12.780 I complained about our kids risky behavior, you were 10 times worse. So it's fine.

00:45:20.140 I mean, I, I do get worried about them sometimes accidentally doing some of the things that I did.

00:45:24.140 Like, okay, here's an example. You, you should, you should warn your kids against this. The,

00:45:28.060 the mattress on the stairwell goes way faster than you would think it goes.

00:45:33.100 Did you ever try a mattress on a stairwell?

00:45:35.020 No, I did a sleeping bag and you know, that allows your butt to fall on each step.

00:45:39.820 It hurts a lot, but you know, you do go down fairly fast and it's fun.

00:45:43.260 The mattress.

00:45:44.380 Woof.

00:45:46.380 When did you do that?

00:45:47.980 See, we got to warn our kids about that. Cause that's, that one's coming up.

00:45:53.420 But she says when she talks about what digital parents actually do is they say they turn

00:45:56.940 validation into over-processing, share adult problems their kids can't handle, avoid conflict

00:46:01.980 instead of teaching resilience, make children responsible for family emotions. The result,

00:46:06.300 anxious people, pleasing kids who monitor your feelings instead of expressing their own.

00:46:11.180 Well, to be fair, I didn't expect it to go in that direction.

00:46:14.780 That they are like obsessed with what you think.

00:46:18.300 No, because that's what you're doing. You're heightening your own, you're, you're telling the

00:46:22.140 kids that they should be monitoring your emotional state. You're being like, look at how,

00:46:25.340 what you're doing is making me feel right. Like child play behavior where they're playing like a

00:46:31.820 little pack of wolves, right? They're playing like a sanitized, whatever.

00:46:38.380 Yeah. They're in some terrifying social experiment.

00:46:43.500 Anyway.

00:46:47.100 Thank you for being a low stress based parent. It's great parenting.

00:46:53.100 You are higher stress than I am. And I have to tell you, knock it off sometimes.

00:46:56.380 But I just think that there's something instinctual about mothers. And it really hit me when I watched

00:47:01.500 around this, this past holiday home alone, where like the rest of the family,

00:47:06.780 Kevin McAllister, well, again, the eight year old kid or something is left home alone. His family goes

00:47:10.780 to Paris without him. And they realize they have to go back and get him because they left him home.

00:47:15.660 And the mother goes through the most painful process of going home, bribing people, spending tons of 1.00

00:47:22.140 money, begging, riding in a road trip with some kind of polka band. And she gets home ultimately

00:47:30.860 like five minutes before the rest of the family that just took the next available flight that was

00:47:35.820 direct.

00:47:36.300 And that's, you, you, you overwork for every part of parenting and it gets to five minutes 1.00

00:47:41.420 earlier.

00:47:42.140 Like she added like 10 years to her life in that experiment and experience and everyone else just

00:47:47.260 did the normal reasonable thing. But I feel like that, that was in the movie and it was meaningful

00:47:52.620 because it really, it encapsulates the plight of the mother where the mother without consent or

00:48:01.660 willingness feels this level of burden and concern and inability to restrain herself and going above

00:48:11.580 and beyond for her kids. Even when it, she logically understands that it doesn't help, but I would say

00:48:18.300 it's a double-edged sword as much as like the weird hormonal shift that makes me love our kids.

00:48:23.660 And that makes me do insane things that aren't actually helpful, but like, I just feel like I have

00:48:28.620 to do them for our kids is, can be damaging. Like Tex just had the worst diaper blowout of his life so

00:48:36.140 far and there was poop everywhere and the, the whole room still smells intensely of it, but you know

00:48:41.420 what it smells like to me? It smells like buttered popcorn. It smells really, because your brain is

00:48:49.580 love the smell of my child's poop. It smells great. It's wonderful. I'm like,

00:48:55.020 it doesn't smell that way to be by the way, but male brains do not rewire.

00:48:58.700 No, but then that's the, that's the point I'm making is it's a double-edged sword. Like the same

00:49:03.260 weird hormonal brainwashing that has taken me over, which we didn't like, I thought I wasn't

00:49:08.620 going to love our kids, right? Like I had no maternal instincts. The same thing that makes me do all this

00:49:13.180 stupid stuff where I fuss over them and I have to braid our girl's hair and you're like, don't do it.

00:49:17.180 It's a waste of time. And I'm like, I have to, I have to get their hair, their clothes just so,

00:49:21.180 and I want them all bundled up and warm and all these things, right? You're like, they don't need

00:49:24.220 it. It's fine. And I have to do it. You're like, you're like, why isn't anyone wearing pants?

00:49:28.460 But you, you can't tolerate the smell of their, their poops. And for some reason,

00:49:34.060 and this doesn't happen to everyone, but it does happen to some people.

00:49:37.980 Like, and they, especially younger kids' poops smell fantastic.

00:49:43.180 Well, no, I've heard, and, and, and, and children's heads, like women really like the smell. 1.00

00:49:46.860 No, you, you can smell baby's heads. I actually can't smell that one. And I, I'm very, I bet

00:49:52.860 there's some kind of gene, like, you know how there's like a gene where like, you won't taste

00:49:56.300 the bitterness in broccoli and you can see this new 23andMe and stuff like, oh, you don't taste

00:50:00.620 bitterness. And this is why you can eat pig slop and things like that. Right. But, and, and you,

00:50:05.660 you actually, I think you have the gene and I don't, which is maybe one reason why I eat the slop

00:50:09.580 I eat and you don't and why I like unsweetened chocolate and all these other things. Cause I literally

00:50:13.660 don't taste some element of bitter that you do, but I do think that there's some gene

00:50:19.500 that, that has to do with like being able to smell some kind of pheromone or chemical that infants

00:50:26.300 release from their head. I wouldn't be surprised at all. Yeah. Because you smell it right. And your

00:50:32.620 mom smelled it. I smell it. I'm not like intensely drawn to it, but it's definitely a different and

00:50:37.180 pleasant smell. That's weird. I, I, and I mean, I would tell you, right, if I'm telling you

00:50:42.540 the embarrassing details of it smells like talcum powder is what it smells like. What?

00:50:49.900 Well, I'm glad I smell the poop instead because one, there's a lot more poop.

00:50:53.260 Well, I guess you're always around the babies, but I like, I really like butter popcorn. So it works

00:50:57.580 out. Well, yeah. There's other smells that like smell fantastic. And you're supposed to like gasoline

00:51:02.380 smells fantastic. Oh yes. And everyone pretends like it's this horrible smell. And I'm like,

00:51:07.340 no, no, no. I bet people made gasoline scented candles, which are probably really bad for you,

00:51:15.180 but I hope they've nailed it. That would be fun. Yeah. Yeah. Gasoline.

00:51:20.940 Better than having gasoline. So you can get them in Marvel. They have like a turn-based game that you

00:51:28.940 can get it as a gift, like diesel candles, jet fuel candles was another one, you know, like really?

00:51:35.020 Yeah. So I thought, you know, that it must exist somewhere if it exists in video games, right?

00:51:40.140 That's great. Well, I didn't expect to be talking about this, but I love our conversation so much.

00:51:48.300 And speaking of buttered popcorn, what would you like for dinner? Bulldog?

00:51:53.100 No, I'm, I'm, I'm not feeling well at all. I want something really easy on the stomach.

00:51:57.660 In soup? Do we have pesto? No.

00:52:03.340 How did we go through it so fast? I thought we got some more and we had it one night.

00:52:07.020 So I made from Thai basil, like I have, I have cubes of minced Thai basil and olive oil that I can

00:52:14.540 thaw and saute with noodles. So we have elbows that I, that I made last night. So we have noodles and I

00:52:20.060 can saute noodles and pesto for you if you want. Oh, wow. That could be pretty good actually.

00:52:25.420 I'll, I'll thaw out one of the cubes of the potato basil.

00:52:28.700 Hold on. I'm, I'm, I'm thinking here. Is this going to be, is this going to be like,

00:52:31.660 do I want it with like- Or would you prefer,

00:52:33.180 because you can also have pumpkin soup with Hawaiian bun and American cheese,

00:52:37.180 like you've been eating recently.

00:52:41.180 Yeah. You know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go for more pumpkin soup, especially if you can get another

00:52:45.820 one of the chicken ones. I think we have some more of those. Yeah. So chicken pumpkin

00:52:49.820 soup, Hawaiian bun with cheese or not? Without cheese, open face, toasted.

00:52:54.300 Oh, you just want a plain Hawaiian bun. Yeah. And then I'll scoop it in the soup

00:52:57.660 and it'll taste really good. Ah, scooper super. Yeah. Fine. All right.

00:53:01.900 The pizza you made yesterday was a little undercooked. It wasn't very crispy. So just

00:53:05.020 keep in mind whatever you can do to. Oh, okay. Yeah. I, yeah.

00:53:11.260 It's difficult because I keep giving feedback while I am doing the kids' baths and then like the timing,

00:53:18.220 you know, it's either burnt or it's not cooked well enough because I'm like in between telling

00:53:22.300 the kids often. You okay? Do you want me to, I can just bring dinner to your room so you can just

00:53:27.900 relax. No, no, no, no. Why? Like, is it actually doing you any favors? Yeah. I get to spend time

00:53:35.260 with you and the kids. I can send one of the kids up to hang out with you after. That's a good idea,

00:53:39.660 actually. Yeah. But do you feel worse when I don't spend the night with you?

00:53:42.860 Not if I think you're uncomfortable. So I just want you to be comfortable. So shall I do that?

00:53:50.060 And then I can send any kid if you're, whichever kid is being the nicest, whichever kid consents,

00:53:57.660 we'll send to hang out with you and watch anime. Does that sound good? Yeah. Yeah. What episode

00:54:03.740 do you want to run tomorrow? This one or the other one? I could go with either.

00:54:07.740 What good was yours? I thought yours was really fascinating. I'm so glad because at first I thought

00:54:13.500 it was going to be one of those where like, no one wants to hear this, blah, blah, blah. No,

00:54:16.460 what you want to make the title card is my wife is dissociating. My wife is in a state of perpetual 0.94

00:54:24.620 dissociation. And then you're going to be like, I'm not here. I'm not dealing with this.

00:54:30.060 I have to see if like any of the title card photos I've taken of myself could like work for this,

00:54:35.100 would just be being like, oh, so no. And then you could, you could just around yourself with kids,

00:54:40.300 like have all the pictures of the kids. Being crazy. Yeah. Or maybe I can just include like

00:54:49.340 another image of me. So it looks like I'm seeing myself from a distance. I'm not sure. Well,

00:54:54.460 I'll figure it out in my morning days. Like I always do. Sorry. I do have a sore throat or something.

00:55:01.020 So that's also why I'm like, Hey, maybe I shouldn't go down with her. Just, just relax.

00:55:05.100 Just relax in your room. I will bring you a toasted Hawaiian bun. One or two.

00:55:09.260 Two. Do you think it's like maybe really dry and that's why I have it? And I'm not actually like,

00:55:14.380 I can put a humidifier in your room, scented or not. Would you like scents?

00:55:17.900 Yes. I'd like a scented humidifier. That is the level of luxury.

00:55:21.260 You're making me feel so luxurious. A scented humidifier. And I'll work on clearing out all the cardboard.

00:55:27.180 That would be nice. No, what we're going to do is on tomorrow. Oh, but the first of,

00:55:33.820 I have to figure out when trash pickup is, but we'll do it together right now. So I was just going

00:55:38.700 to be taking out trash. Oh, I should clean up my room a bit. I thought you were going to rest.

00:55:45.020 Well, yeah, but because I got the time to rest now, I've also got the time to clean up.

00:55:49.660 Okay. Well, if you're going to clean up, would you mind then ferrying the kids to the kitchen?

00:55:53.340 So I don't have to go out. Oh yeah, sure. Where, when, when do I pick them up? Where do I get them?

00:55:57.020 Anytime now I'm ready to take them. All right. So what, what do I do? Like I call them and I say,

00:56:02.220 yeah, just call, call Stacy and say, you're ready to come pick up the kids and they can start getting

00:56:06.700 like their shoes on and send them down. And then. Okay. They'll make their way over. 0.76

00:56:13.500 Are you sure though? Because trash day is not, is, is kind of messed up, I think because of the holiday.

00:56:19.900 And I'm sure if it makes your life easier because you're making my life easier,

00:56:26.220 I have to do it. I mean, it's windy. So I'm a little worried that it's just going to be like

00:56:30.540 blown all over the. It's fine. Put them in the bin. Okay. Okay.

00:56:37.100 What would mean a lot to me is if you ferried the kids to the, to the kitchen for dinner. And also,

00:56:44.060 if you could see, I'm checking right now to see if the console has been, they have a package. Yes.

00:56:49.660 There is a package outside our fence that I'd really love for you to bring in. And then

00:56:54.540 I will bring your dinner to you and you can relax and do nothing after that. If that works for you,

00:56:58.700 we have a deal. We have a deal, a deal, a deal. Our kids love making deals. This is how I forced my

00:57:06.220 wife into these horrible, degrading conditions she lives in. What? By like handling trash and subzero 1.00

00:57:14.940 conditions. But you're letting me do it. Oh, I'm letting you. What a privilege.

00:57:23.100 I'll be reading my Korea romance manga. So like, you don't even need to worry.

00:57:27.500 You must see what the sociopathic empress does next. Who will she feed to the dogs? 1.00

00:57:32.780 I love it. I want more evil. I do not like the, the ones where they turn good. I like them to stay

00:57:40.380 a bit evil. This is, this is what I'm here for. The vengeance. Not, not even evil because she's not 0.75

00:57:46.700 like, she's just really cruel to people who were cruel to her before the timeline.

00:57:50.940 She's just effective. Okay. She just makes it right. She, she's the finisher. I like it.

00:57:56.140 A finisher. Yeah. Yeah. She like mildly regrets in the last life that she had one of her 0.98

00:58:02.540 friends' tongues ripped out. And I was like, you are intense that you're just like, yeah,

00:58:07.100 that was probably not my best move. Yeah. Thanks. They're much better things to remove.

00:58:12.540 Have a good one, Simone. Love you, Malcolm. Love you too.

00:58:17.900 Are you reading Korean manga? Of course. It's important that I understand. It's your stories.

00:58:25.100 You need villainous. Yeah. This is so, this is a good one. This is one where the main character is

00:58:31.420 truly sociopathic. And I love those. Yeah. They're really a villainous. She, um. 0.98

00:58:37.100 Actually villainous. Not just a victim.

00:58:40.060 Well, one of, one of the maids who she said she'd, she'd protect if they betrayed someone,

00:58:44.300 she fed to dogs. And the other maid thought she was so nice because they thought that she had helped 1.00

00:58:48.940 the maid escape rather than pointlessly after her story was basically done. Well,

00:58:53.500 fed her to wolves. Okay. And I'm like, yeah, that's what I'm looking for in a villainous.

00:58:58.540 I want a wife who does not let stuff slide. You know, you gotta, you gotta tie up all the loose 1.00

00:59:05.580 ends. I really, I really see her perspective on things. Professor, we'd have to like cook the human meat. 1.00

00:59:12.860 Would not. Yeah. Horrible. Yeah. But cause I, you know, like there've been some, some nights where

00:59:20.300 I'm like, oh, this is an amazing cut of meat. Like it's really like, like you can even eat it as

00:59:24.860 we were recently gifted, like incredibly high quality meat that we could have probably eaten

00:59:29.740 raw certain cuts of it. And I shared one with her and she was like, what is this? Like, why is this not

00:59:35.260 sauteed in butter? Excuse me. She's so funny. And then I went to take it away. She's like, no,

00:59:41.180 no, no, no, it's fine. It's fine. You are the wackiest. But this is so thematic, Malcolm.

00:59:49.100 And I'm like, so relieved because for the past four days, Tex has been super constipated. Like

00:59:54.260 to the point where he, he hasn't been eating because there's no room. And then he'll like

00:59:58.340 get really irritable every two hours. And I'm like getting up all night to, cause normally he'd be

01:00:03.100 kind of sleeping through the night at this point. But yeah, I just, then this morning there were tiny

01:00:07.900 little tiny little poops. And I was like, Oh, this is like right before Mount Vesuvius came,

01:00:12.380 you know, like it blew up at like little earthquakes and stuff. And it was like, what's going on?

01:00:16.860 Huh? And then it happened. The big one, it hit, it was all the way up his back, but almost to his neck,

01:00:23.900 almost to his neck. Yeah. It blew. He blew, but now he will hopefully be able to sleep at night and eat

01:00:31.900 again. And he's less, I was doing all the things I was doing the stomach massages, the leg, the leg

01:00:37.020 thingies and the, you know, but it wasn't, it wasn't.

01:00:41.260 You know, what's up? You're such a good mother. Well, look at him. He's still alive. I'm, I'm shocked.

01:00:46.860 He's been, yeah, it was touch and go there in the early days.

01:00:50.300 Yeah. Well, he still has a big divot in his chest from where the tube was in.

01:00:55.660 It makes me so sad. Every time it makes me so sad. Sure. But I didn't ask for your consent.

01:01:02.380 I just did it. She just saved your life. So that's horrible. Yeah.

01:01:05.980 No, to change his typer just now, since that's what we're talking about. Right.

01:01:10.300 What are we talking about? Yeah. Bring it, bring it home.

01:01:12.940 A fan who lived in our area actually dropped these off at our house.

01:01:16.380 Think so. Okay, guys, let's find out what it was.

01:01:19.420 I want, I want to eat. What do you mean? Yeah. What is it, you guys?

01:01:26.380 Baby! I, I, see, I saw something. I saw something that is fun.

01:01:31.980 I don't know. Hey, I'm gonna take it out. There's, there's no books. What books?

01:01:42.060 Oh, tasty.

01:01:43.020 I want to have it. Oh my gosh, look at how shiny it is. What?

01:01:49.980 There's a point of dinosaurs for you. Dinosaurs? Dinosaurs? Oh my gosh, you guys.

01:02:01.900 What? Show me. Oh my gosh, these are such cool books. Look at these books.

01:02:08.940 What books? I want to have it. Yes? I want to have it. Wow. Let me see.

01:02:19.180 Wow.

Based Camp - January 23, 2026

＂Scientists＂ Say Babies Need Consent For Diaper Changes

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