Based Camp - Secret Civil War on the Left： Gays vs. Muslims vs. Blacks

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone! I am excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be using the split

00:00:05.820 up of the flotilla that Greta Thornburg was involved in and on the board of over a person

00:00:11.700 coming out as gay and then the Muslims on it who were running a lot of stuff was like, well, we 1.00

00:00:16.340 won't be part of it then. And it's still sort of operational, but it's having a lot of issues.

00:00:21.140 We'll be using this as a framing device to talk about what has been happening increasingly over

00:00:27.760 just the last couple months, which is a split up or like a forced sort of reconciling in the left

00:00:35.000 between, and by the way, we found some video of Greta Thornburg's flotilla here.

00:00:57.760 A reconciling of many people thought, and it's sort of like every non-white group largely thought

00:01:10.680 that the left was all about centering them, and they're learning that it's not. And while we will

00:01:16.640 be talking about, one of the things we'll be talking about is the conflict between the black 0.97

00:01:19.800 force part of the left and the Palestine part of the left, which is like way more gruesome than you 1.00

00:01:25.580 would think, specifically because, okay, Simone, are you aware that there are other genocides in

00:01:32.380 the world that are significantly larger than, if you consider Gaza a genocide, than what's going on

00:01:37.360 in Gaza? Are you aware of this? I mean, nothing's coming up in the news. I couldn't- No, no, no, of course

00:01:44.680 nobody's talking about it. None of the leftists are freaking out about it. Greta Thornburg's not doing

00:01:47.900 anything about it. But no, there's significant, multiple larger genocides. But the largest genocide in

00:01:52.380 the world right now is happening in the Sudan. Do you know who is killing who in this genocide?

00:01:58.560 No. Arabs are killing blacks. Oh, no. Oh. And you can say, oh, come on, Malcolm, you must be 1.00

00:02:07.160 misframing it. So this is from an AI here, because I ask, is this actually true? Yes. The ongoing

00:02:11.520 genocide in Sudan, particularly in the Darfur region, largely involves Arab-dominated forces led by the

00:02:16.420 Rapid Support Forces, RSF, and allied Arab militias perpetrating systemic atrocities against non-Arab,

00:02:22.380 often referred to as Black or African ethnic groups, such as the Malsuti, Furr, and Zagazwi.

00:02:27.980 I can't pronounce those. This ethnic dimension is the core driver of the violence. So yeah. 1.00

00:02:33.160 This is- I remember there being Darfur activists in college. Yeah, so it is possible to protest

00:02:40.700 Darfur. We just stopped doing it within the current era of leftist media. Got tired of it?

00:02:46.120 Or like, I don't know. Well, no, we didn't get tired of it. This is a completely new conflict

00:02:48.900 that's happening in the same region. This is a new one. Okay. So this is not the Darfur of like-

00:02:53.360 Well, obviously they're connected, but it's a new genocide. Yes. It is. It is mass murder of

00:02:59.240 children, mass graves, really horrifying stuff. And then people will be like, well, we're not funding

00:03:05.040 this one. And it's like, well, buckle up, buddy, because guess who is funding them? The UAE. And they're

00:03:13.220 doing it to get rid of the blacks in the region so that they can control the ports more easily 1.00

00:03:17.860 and use it to export gold. Because I think they can get like 80% of the gold from the region or 0.97

00:03:21.640 something. We're not going to go too far into that. But throughout this, what you will find,

00:03:26.820 and I think that many people, they see like one dimension here where they're like, they see the

00:03:32.060 Gaza-Palestine thing. And they're like, this is at odds with leftist views around gay rights,

00:03:39.580 which we'll get into. And it is. But I think they miss how sort of unilaterally antithetical

00:03:47.600 to most purported urban monoculture and leftist values. The Arab community, and specifically,

00:03:54.380 obviously, Arab communities are different and there's diversity within the communities.

00:03:57.440 But I'm talking about dominant beliefs in these communities are towards their other agendas,

00:04:02.320 like helping, for example, black people. And I think that we're sort of coming to a head.

00:04:07.000 We're also going to talk about what has recently happened, which is a widespread movement of

00:04:12.000 LGB organizations that are splitting from trans organizations and many activists

00:04:16.340 recently with this idea that they are going to push like a divorce or a forced separating.

00:04:22.460 To go to the gay stuff, because you're like, how, you know, anti-gay is a place like Gaza, okay?

00:04:28.640 So in 2000, there were four Palestinians killed in the Gaza West Bank for just being gay,

00:04:35.520 which led to a lot of gay people in Gaza to flee to Israel where they were accepted for asylum

00:04:40.760 to protect themselves from the Gazans. If the Gazans controlled, like Jerusalem, for example, 0.89

00:04:47.940 the gay people in Jerusalem would be killed. They're able to go there for protection now because 0.98

00:04:52.520 they are killed in Gaza. Now, what's really wild here is we actually have like quite detailed like

00:04:59.120 torture and murder of gay people because of captured records that they have found 0.95

00:05:04.200 of a senior Hamas commander in Gaza who was arrested, beaten, placed in solitary confinement 0.92

00:05:10.580 before being murdered, predominantly because he was found to be gay. Other captured documents

00:05:16.560 revealed that they tortured and killed two other gay members specifically for, and I love this 1.00

00:05:23.020 because this is extensively documented in Hamas's own records.

00:05:26.820 That these two people were killed because they gay-graped some of the Israeli captives, which implies 0.86

00:05:35.780 that regular graping must have been very common if they thought they could get away with gay 1.00

00:05:41.060 graping in an Islamic. Like, I love when people are like, oh, no, no, no, no, even though the 1.00

00:05:45.540 hostages have said, yes, rape is very common among the hostages.

00:05:48.740 Yeah, but they're like, it's fine. Just don't, don't be gay about it. 1.00

00:05:53.140 Don't be gay about it, guys. 0.99

00:05:55.940 Oh, man. Oh, okay. 0.99

00:05:58.700 By the way, for the other of you, if you want to get an idea of like the scale of the various 0.97

00:06:02.440 genocides that we're looking at in the world right now, the one that is Arabs killing blacks in the 1.00

00:06:07.440 Sudan, there have been around 150,000 deaths and around 12 million people are displaced with 11

00:06:15.040 million internal displacement, 3 million refugees. And then if you look at the next biggest, which is

00:06:20.560 again, not the Gaza war, it's the DRC Eastern conflict, it's had around 100,000 casualties,

00:06:26.040 7 million refugees. And then if you look at the Gaza war, if you consider this a genocide,

00:06:32.100 it has just 64,300 casualties, which, which, which would make it about half the size of what's going

00:06:39.960 on in the Sudan right now, but only around 1.9 million people. And keep in mind, like this is,

00:06:44.700 this is still a lot of people. I'm not saying that this is a good thing. Yeah, any death is tragic.

00:06:50.240 But if, if we're talking about effective altruism or tackling the, the biggest,

00:06:56.320 the biggest atrocities in terms of- Would it be much easier to end the Sudan conflict than it would

00:07:01.620 be to end the, the conflict that we're dealing with in Israel and Gaza right now? Like it's a much

00:07:05.200 more realistic thing to do. And this is why when you talk about something like Greta Thornburg,

00:07:08.980 and I, and I think this is really telling, and I want to get into the psychology of this,

00:07:11.820 why does she climate activists decide one day not to address the biggest genocides in the world? 1.00

00:07:17.900 And people will be like, well, just because the genocide's happening in another region,

00:07:21.400 doesn't mean you can't be talking about a genocide in, in this region, right?

00:07:25.120 Well, isn't she supposed to be the id of the left? I mean-

00:07:28.240 Right. Yeah. Well, she is kind of, but I, but what I want to find here is when a leftist is like,

00:07:32.940 well, you can't complain about the genocide here and then say that like, we shouldn't be talking

00:07:36.960 about the genocide here. And I'm like, I'm not saying that, right? But the problem is,

00:07:40.320 I can go to your tweets. I can look at what your sort of lieutenants are doing,

00:07:44.400 your Greta Thornburgs, and not a one of them. I mean, I would argue that the tweets that the 0.98

00:07:49.560 Sudan conflict is getting, despite being significantly larger, is probably 0.5% of the

00:07:56.460 tweets that Gaza gets from leftist activists. So the question is, is why don't you talk about it

00:08:03.540 when it's Arabs killing blacks? Why do you talk about it when it's Jews killing Arabs? 1.00

00:08:10.760 Like, and, and Arab, and I'll put a clip on the screen here. It's in another language, 0.96

00:08:15.420 but, but for context here, so you, you, you don't actually have to read the full saying,

00:08:20.080 this is the Palestinian analyst, Monar Shakif on Al Jazeera TV. So mainstream TV, you know,

00:08:27.040 in the Middle East, and they're even talking about this there. He, he pointed out that more people

00:08:32.580 have been killed in the Sudan and Gaza in the past two years. But he then goes on to say,

00:08:37.240 but nobody cares about them because the blood of Palestinians is precious. You don't see people 1.00

00:08:42.820 in West Hamages protesting their deaths.

00:08:45.740 They believe that there is a belief. And I'll note this to somebody who, he said,

00:08:51.400 Even the worst of us, our blood is dry.

00:08:54.560 The world is all happy to see Gaza. 1.00

00:08:57.840 I tell you, in Sudan, there was a disaster, 1.00

00:09:01.640 and there was a battle,

00:09:02.760 more than what happened in Palestine,

00:09:04.520 in these years.

00:09:05.640 No, that's right.

00:09:06.320 No one feels like them.

00:09:07.520 No one talks about them.

00:09:08.840 But we are in museums, in the churches.

00:09:12.560 They believe, and there is a belief,

00:09:14.400 and I'll note this as somebody who hangs out

00:09:16.200 with upper-class Arabs and stuff like this.

00:09:19.000 They are the only upper, like, okay,

00:09:20.960 so I lived in Korea for a long time.

00:09:23.360 You lived in Japan for a long time.

00:09:25.320 There is an undercurrent of, like, racism

00:09:27.640 against, like, Black people in those countries.

00:09:29.960 But if you are among, like, upper-class educated people,

00:09:33.200 you would not expect racist jokes.

00:09:35.560 Among upper-class Arabs who I hang out with,

00:09:38.640 racist jokes against Blacks are very common.

00:09:41.040 There's a much more open disdain in those communities 0.92

00:09:43.440 towards Black communities.

00:09:44.680 For those who'd like to group together,

00:09:46.200 free Palestine, free Sudan, free the Congo, 0.91

00:09:49.560 I want you to take a look at this.

00:09:50.720 The young Black boy in that clip, his name is Joshua Malito Malau.

00:09:56.840 He was a Tanzanian student who was in Israel studying agriculture

00:10:14.520 so that he could learn and take it home to his family, help his country.

00:10:18.120 He was brutally murdered by Hamas.

00:10:20.520 They knew he wasn't Jewish, they knew he wasn't Israeli, they didn't care. 1.00

00:10:24.240 They terrorized him, tortured him, killed him, 0.92

00:10:27.680 and then shot him several times in the head after they killed him.

00:10:30.520 This is how Hamas and the broader Islamic Jihadist world feels about Africans, 0.60

00:10:35.240 which is why they enslaved them by the millions across the African continent, 0.86

00:10:39.240 including in places like Sudan.

00:10:41.640 Stop claiming solidarity where there is none.

00:10:45.360 Stop.

00:10:46.360 And people will be like, well, you know, you can't blame a community just for what it's,

00:10:54.920 you know, elites are doing.

00:10:57.200 And we'll get into, well, it's not just the elites.

00:10:59.800 There have been campaigns in some of these countries of going around and lynching people

00:11:03.080 recently and stuff like that.

00:11:04.120 So I guess it's pretty horrifying.

00:11:06.680 And I want to be clear here.

00:11:08.200 If you are thinking to yourself, well, you know, my fellow activists are just unaware 0.99

00:11:13.000 that there is a giant other genocide of Arabs killing black people. 0.96

00:11:18.520 And, and that is why they're not protesting it. 0.97

00:11:21.160 That's why they're not talking about it.

00:11:22.760 And I'd be like, well, somebody in your movement is educated, right?

00:11:25.640 Like there's somebody at the top of your movement.

00:11:28.360 Why is it that the people at the top of your movement in terms of the information

00:11:31.880 they're filtering down to people under them, when it can be used to villainize Jews,

00:11:37.800 they are highlighting that information.

00:11:40.280 When that information could be used to protect black communities,

00:11:43.320 they are hiding that information.

00:11:45.240 You have to ask yourself, what does that show about their actual values?

00:11:51.080 Before I go further, do you want any, any comments here about sort of what's going on

00:11:56.680 in the left?

00:11:57.240 And, and I think that the right did a very good job of sort of forcing the left for a long

00:12:01.320 time, like, look at it, look at what they do to gays, but we haven't done the same with 0.99

00:12:05.880 blacks yet. 0.97

00:12:06.680 And I think we need to do the same with blacks as well. 1.00

00:12:09.000 Look at what they do to blacks. 1.00

00:12:10.680 I think that's fair.

00:12:11.560 I mean, what, what I, I appreciate about the, the way that actually several people,

00:12:15.880 I don't know if this is just a trending idea right now who followed this podcast have

00:12:21.240 spoken with us or, or DM desk or emailed us about this, this reality that they're seeing

00:12:28.600 that basically the only actually woke people who are woke, who identify as woke are, are

00:12:37.800 white because every other group is just an interest group or, or specifically, I should

00:12:43.800 say white, cis, non-disabled people, because everyone else is just a special interest group.

00:12:50.760 And as soon as it comes up in the movement, that it's their interest group versus the

00:12:56.840 priorities of a different interest group.

00:12:58.920 And if those come into conflict in any way, then it just starts to fall apart.

00:13:03.880 And I had never even considered that that could be-

00:13:07.080 Crack maybe one we were dealing with recently, who's like super woke.

00:13:09.960 And the moment like crack came up, she thought she was like the queen of Shiba, like, like

00:13:14.920 Prince Ali walking into a place, getting to shut other people down in the conversation.

00:13:19.560 And just, just look very buffoonish in context.

00:13:22.120 I'm not going to go too into it, but it, it, you see this, right?

00:13:25.320 Yeah.

00:13:25.400 Like that's, that's why they're a part of this because they think that they are afforded special

00:13:29.400 status.

00:13:30.040 Yeah.

00:13:30.360 And in the moment that you're not afforded special status, you try to attack whatever group

00:13:35.080 is, is taking it away.

00:13:36.200 But it just, I don't know.

00:13:37.640 I, I had, I had believed I'd labored under the impression that every member of the woke 0.91

00:13:43.240 contingency contributed equally to the, the game of intersectionality and would defer appropriately

00:13:51.800 to whatever like was considered to be the most worthy cause or subgroup or in need subgroup

00:13:58.200 of the moment.

00:13:58.840 And then all this information has been sent to us on how that is not actually the case and

00:14:04.520 sort of like gay rights or black rights versus Palestine is just one of, it turns out quite 0.98

00:14:12.680 a few examples of this.

00:14:14.200 And I just, it's mind blowing to me because I, I didn't, I really didn't understand that,

00:14:19.960 that this was just a mostly it's, it's a, it's a very varied supremacy culture.

00:14:27.000 Yeah.

00:14:27.800 With one, like, like with a substrate that is willing to consistently put itself at the

00:14:33.160 bottom.

00:14:33.400 And that is cis, non-disabled white people. 0.52

00:14:37.720 Yeah.

00:14:38.040 So weird.

00:14:38.440 It's so weird.

00:14:39.320 At the bottom.

00:14:39.800 They never do for long.

00:14:41.000 I mean, if they're in it long enough, all of a sudden now they're genderqueer or now they're, 0.99

00:14:45.560 yeah, that's right.

00:14:46.280 They're neurodiverse or now they're, you know, that's, that's the way it works.

00:14:50.840 But I want to go into this, this more like this, this Arab black conflict is part of

00:14:54.840 this because this just getting to this and we'll probably do another episode where we

00:14:57.720 dive deeper into this.

00:14:58.440 I found this really fascinating. 0.95

00:14:59.880 And I personally knew that Arabs are like racist against black people more than other 1.00

00:15:05.240 groups. 0.93

00:15:05.800 But I didn't realize that like generally whenever they get the chance, they start trying to 0.97

00:15:10.680 exterminate any neighboring black population. 1.00

00:15:12.600 Yeah, I didn't. 1.00

00:15:13.400 That's.

00:15:14.120 And I wasn't aware of this.

00:15:15.640 And I think that like, this needs to be part of the discourse more maybe.

00:15:19.480 So if this is actually a thing, I just, no one's ever talked to me about it.

00:15:24.120 This is mind blowing to me.

00:15:25.400 So we talked about this in Sudan during the first and second Sudanese wars.

00:15:28.840 So this is the earlier set of wars, right?

00:15:30.760 That you were talking about the Darfur conflict that you heard about 1955 to 2005.

00:15:35.640 An estimated 2.5 to 3.5 million black indigenous Africans were killed or ethnically cleansed

00:15:41.640 by racially motivated attacks by Arabs.

00:15:44.200 So that was by Arabs too.

00:15:46.280 Yes, that was by Arabs too.

00:15:47.160 Yes.

00:15:47.640 Then in Mauritania, despite slavery's official ban in 1981, codified in 2007.

00:15:53.560 So in Mauritania, slavery wasn't banned until 2007.

00:15:56.840 Okay.

00:15:57.720 Even today, 10 to 20% of the population remains enslaved.

00:16:02.040 And it is almost universally the darker skin Mauritanians or the black Mauritanians.

00:16:09.160 So they still keep slaves.

00:16:10.440 And they were very, very big in the slave trade, obviously, you know, the Barbary Coast and everything

00:16:14.600 like that.

00:16:15.800 Great.

00:16:15.960 So in Egypt, former President Anwar Sadar, a Nubian, so black, faced racial insults for

00:16:23.400 appearing, quote unquote, not Egyptian enough, dubbed Nasser's Black Poodle.

00:16:27.800 Soccer player Sadiqa quit national play as fans chanted racial slurs and displayed a back dog on

00:16:34.920 on his jersey.

00:16:35.960 Sudanese refugees and darker skinned Egyptians report daily bias discrimination and abuse.

00:16:41.160 Libya, 2000, anti-African riots saw black migrants and called them, oh, by the way,

00:16:46.600 I should note in Darfur, when they mass murder people, the general slur that is used by the Arabs 0.94

00:16:53.080 for the blacks that they are killing is slave. 0.99

00:16:55.880 Their job is to kill the slaves. 1.00

00:16:58.760 So that's sort of like in their language, the N-word, but like even more direct. 0.98

00:17:03.480 So you get an idea of what the vibe is here, people.

00:17:06.280 It's really bad.

00:17:09.320 Libya, in 2000, anti-African riots saw black migrants called quote unquote slaves and quote 0.90

00:17:14.920 unquote animals.

00:17:15.960 During the 2011 Civil War, Amnesty International documented massacres of black Libyans and

00:17:20.920 sub-Saharan Africans solely based on skid color. 0.99

00:17:23.960 In Morocco, the Trab-Saharan slave trade's legacy endures with black Moroccans derogatorily 1.00

00:17:29.320 called abda or slave or kanda servant.

00:17:33.240 This is like a regular thing there.

00:17:34.760 This is not like, you know, in the U.S., you don't actually get racial slurings anymore.

00:17:37.880 This is a normal part of daily life of being black in one of these countries.

00:17:42.760 And they still have the segregation on school buses, sub-Saharan migrants and other forms

00:17:47.960 of sort of apartheid.

00:17:50.280 Okay.

00:17:51.960 Wow.

00:17:52.280 By the way, I loved it.

00:17:54.200 Yeah.

00:17:54.360 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:17:55.640 I want to lift this because they keep saying, well, just because there's a genocide in one

00:18:02.600 region doesn't mean I can't talk about a genocide in another region.

00:18:05.880 And you then have to say, well, except this genocide is about twice the size, easier to

00:18:12.600 stop.

00:18:13.000 And you're not talking about it even 1% the amount you're talking about the other region.

00:18:18.040 Like Greta Thornburg effing went, tried to like go to to Gaza, you know, did the whole 1.00

00:18:24.440 thing, was arrested, refused to watch any of the videos of the atrocities that took place

00:18:27.960 that day because I'm just refusing to be educated on the topic, was sent back by Israel, goes 0.83

00:18:33.320 back on another flotilla, goes to Gaza again.

00:18:36.280 I didn't even know.

00:18:37.720 I thought you just stopped.

00:18:38.760 That's crazy.

00:18:39.400 Could she not have done Sudan next? 1.00

00:18:41.800 Could she not have done like, if you're doing this for multiple years, why not do one year

00:18:45.720 for Gaza and one year for Sudan, right?

00:18:48.120 Like, that seems like a thing, right?

00:18:51.080 But to continue here, and the reason I'm pointing all this out is I'm not pointing out that like,

00:18:55.240 Arabs are intrinsically racist or anything like that.

00:18:58.600 You know, this is not the point.

00:19:00.520 But what I am saying is Arabs have a distinct culture that is unique to their regions as

00:19:06.680 distinct as American and Korean and American and Japanese, and you might have disagreements

00:19:12.680 with parts of their culture.

00:19:14.120 But I think everybody has a right to their individual culture.

00:19:18.280 But I think it's also important to recognize when aspects of a culture that are normative

00:19:23.400 within a region are antagonistic to your stated objective.

00:19:27.880 Like when you're like, okay, we'll all get together and we won't fight for a little bit

00:19:32.520 just to get the conflict resolved in this particular region, right?

00:19:37.880 It's important to note if everyone of the group that you're trying to save is like,

00:19:44.040 and once we have our arms freed up again, let's start funding those Sudanese.

00:19:49.960 Right now we're splitting our money, you know, we can expand our influence in Africa as well.

00:19:55.240 So it's important to note this stuff, right?

00:19:57.800 You know, and that I think it's also useful for conservatives who are fooled by the progressive

00:20:06.120 rhetoric and do not understand how much we have in common with, in terms of our goals,

00:20:15.160 with Christian Africans, for sort of the planet, for humanity. 0.96

00:20:20.280 This is a group that is very easy for us to work with.

00:20:24.120 And in many cases, even, even Muslim Africans, I'll point out here that the, 1.00

00:20:28.280 when I, when I talk about Arabs murdering blacks in these regions, 1.00

00:20:31.320 I'm not talking about, while they, while they do happen to be Muslims, it is important to note 0.99

00:20:36.200 that they are murdering the Africans, not because of their religion, 0.99

00:20:39.000 but because of their skin color. They don't really care if they're Muslim or not. 0.99

00:20:42.120 Not that that makes it better, but it is an important note.

00:20:45.880 Okay. So you were under the impression that the flotilla thing, because this is what the

00:20:49.960 flotilla is trying to say is, oh, it's not because they're gay. 0.99

00:20:52.920 It's not because we have a bunch of Muslims who refuse to work with gays. 0.99

00:20:56.120 So let's read parts of the- 0.99

00:20:57.640 It's propaganda from the Zionist lobby. 0.72

00:21:00.680 The Zionist lobby. Yes.

00:21:01.880 The Zionist lobby.

00:21:03.320 Can anti-Semitism bring, bring them together?

00:21:08.760 So we'll see.

00:21:09.240 The great uniter. Yes. There we go.

00:21:12.120 Yeah. And if anybody here is listening to this and they're like, why do you need to point out the

00:21:18.040 racism that's normalized within many Arab communities?

00:21:21.320 It's because it is framed today within leftist rhetoric that a white population. 0.97

00:21:27.160 So let's say Northern European populations are racist, vile people, right? 1.00

00:21:34.200 And what I'm pointing out here is, and this is important, that the amount of racism that you 0.87

00:21:41.320 are going to see in any country dominated by a Northern Europeans is absolutely astronomically 1.00

00:21:48.440 minuscule anti-black racism when contrasted with the amount you're going to see in any country

00:21:52.600 dominated by Arabs. And this isn't to say Arabs are worse. 0.99

00:21:55.560 Like people have a right to ethno preferences, but I think that there's this like delusion,

00:22:00.120 right? That these two groups are friends in some way.

00:22:08.040 And I note here, if you're a black person and you're watching this and you believe that Egypt

00:22:13.720 used to be black, it's more complicated than a lot of people make it seem. There were periods

00:22:19.560 where Nubians had control or whatever, but suppose you do believe that Egypt used to be black.

00:22:23.720 You got to ask yourself why it's Arab now then. Why, why do black people who go there, 1.00

00:22:28.760 that would imply that somebody got rid of all the black people who used to live in Egypt. 0.68

00:22:34.040 I, was it, was it Yacoub? What did they call him? Yacouba or whatever? The, the,

00:22:38.600 the one from the. Oh, the evil one. Yeah. Who made white people. Yeah. Who made white people. 0.83

00:22:44.360 What was it him? It was Yacoub, right? Yacoub, Yacoub. Or, or you could say it's the

00:22:50.120 populations that are there right now that got rid of the original population. Now that, that isn't

00:22:54.520 actually what happened. Although there was large and, and violent Arab migrations into

00:22:59.640 Northern Africa, but the populations that were there before are not what many people would

00:23:03.560 have considered black Africa. It doesn't necessarily matter. Anyway, to continue here,

00:23:07.560 GF. I'm just pointing out that even from their own propaganda questions should be coming up.

00:23:14.040 Mike, if North Africa used to be black, why isn't it black now? And the people who are living there 1.00

00:23:21.400 who aren't black probably have something to do with that. Again, that's not exactly what happened.

00:23:26.040 And a lot of this happened a long time ago. And Egypt is one of the, the less racist of the countries

00:23:30.680 that we're talking about. Although a black soccer player quit due to the amount of racism he dealt with

00:23:35.560 in the country. So like it's, it's there. Yeah. GSF co-coordinator Khalid Bajami announced his resignation,

00:23:44.040 in protest at the presence of LGBT activists in the flotilla, including Safi Adi, who identified

00:23:49.480 as a queer activist. He said, quote, we were lied to about the identity of some of the participants

00:23:54.600 in the vanguard of the flotilla. I accused the organizers of having a hidden aspect from us,

00:23:59.480 end quote. He complained in two streams on social media. Other figures, including activist Marin Meftin

00:24:05.800 and presenter Samir Alfei, condemned what they saw as an attempt to impose culturally progressive

00:24:12.200 agenda unrelated to the Palestinian cause, describing it as a, quote, red line crossed,

00:24:17.240 end quote, and an attack on, quote, societal values, end quote. And note, they didn't like

00:24:23.880 try to make this about promoting gay agenda or anything, right? Like they're, they didn't like 1.00

00:24:29.480 confuse gay agenda with the agenda tied to Palestine. Just a person who was on one of the boats 1.00

00:24:36.760 happened to be gay. He wasn't like doing gay stuff. He wasn't like hitting on them or promoting gay

00:24:45.880 stuff while they were doing it. He just existed as a gay person on not their boat, one of the boats. 0.55

00:24:52.840 Well, he didn't hide it. Like his Instagram bio is rainbow communist queer militant based in Tunisia 0.83

00:25:02.280 from the river to the sea. But he did say queer and there was a rainbow. So he wasn't hiding it. 0.77

00:25:08.040 Yeah. Okay. So here's a great quote from one of them who left over this. This is Al-Wafi.

00:25:15.960 Quote, Palestine is first and foremost, the cause of Muslims. It cannot be separated from its spiritual

00:25:20.840 and religious dimensions, with Jerusalem at the heart of its symbols and destiny.

00:25:25.560 So why involve in it dubious activists serving other agendas that do not concern us and have

00:25:32.040 nothing to do with Gaza, such as homosexuality, exclamation, question mark. And, and note here,

00:25:38.440 again, he wasn't like promoting homosexuality. He just existed as a gay person. They're like, 0.55

00:25:43.400 you don't understand how important it is that we kill gay people. 1.00

00:25:48.360 Yeah. His plan wasn't to go and provide aid and then turn Palestine gay or anything. 1.00

00:25:54.760 Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. But there, but I think that this is the thing, 0.87

00:25:58.360 the progressives think that this is what's going to happen and they don't understand that they're

00:26:02.360 not breeding. They're not really relevant. They're sort of idiotic patsies for other people's agenda.

00:26:08.840 And we, those of us who are breeding and think about the future need to be aware of where our potential 0.99

00:26:16.120 allies are and where are the groups that are most likely to ally against us. Even if we are

00:26:22.280 temporarily allied with them for now. And I think conservatives in the United States,

00:26:28.280 my brother in Christ, black Christian Africans are one of our strongest potential allies going into

00:26:32.600 the future. They are a, a high fertility group. They may not be high technology or, or high industry

00:26:38.680 right now, but that doesn't mean that we aren't going to still benefit from having allies in some

00:26:45.000 regions that are very, very populous. And there are also regions that historically like conservative

00:26:51.400 Americans. If you are unaware, Bush, for example, is very, very popular in Africa.

00:26:58.120 George W. Bush?

00:27:00.120 Yeah. W. Bush is extremely popular in Africa. And I will note here, if you're like...

00:27:05.000 Is that because of his work on AIDS?

00:27:06.840 It's because of his work on a lot of things. Yeah. He, he, he dealt with Africa in a way that

00:27:12.040 sort of took them seriously. So if you look at like shutting down USAID and people are like,

00:27:15.960 well, that's going to get Africans to like hate you. And it's like, no, if you actually look at

00:27:18.760 what was happening in these communities where this stuff was being distributed,

00:27:21.400 they thought that they were like being sterilized and stuff. The workers, there's a reason why they 0.70

00:27:26.360 talked about how many USAID workers were killed. You don't kill someone who you think is there to help

00:27:30.520 you. They were forcing their views on them in the same way they forced them on us.

00:27:34.840 They don't like this stuff any more than we do, you know? And, and if you're, I don't,

00:27:40.360 I don't want to go too deep on that, on that stuff. But what I'm pointing out here is, is, is,

00:27:44.040 they don't want or need us to be forcing aid down their streets to throats to build alliances with

00:27:52.040 them. That's not the way the African Christian communities are. I won't go too much, but you see 1.00

00:27:56.760 what I mean?

00:27:57.000 Well, so what happened with the flotilla that, that I read was that this sort of really slowed

00:28:02.920 things down. It, it made them look bad.

00:28:05.160 Well, Gretchenberg resigned from her post.

00:28:07.160 Yeah. She stepped down from her like board position. She still refers to herself as an active

00:28:13.400 supporter and participant, but not in a leadership capacity. So they sort of lost her

00:28:19.320 leadership endorsement. It's, it's not a good look for them. It's not helping the cause.

00:28:24.600 Well, and for me, it was embarrassing to find out that she's still involved with this. She

00:28:28.760 did her thing with the flotilla. She's not getting them more attention now or anything like that.

00:28:33.400 Is this just because she doesn't have a home or something? And she just lives to be an activist. 1.00

00:28:36.920 And I love what, so, so she goes around and she, in this piece that I didn't quote it, but she was

00:28:42.680 talking about how I'm not doing this for attention. You know, I'm doing this to get aid for the people

00:28:46.920 in Palestine. This flotilla thing has been operational for like 10 years at this point. They have only once

00:28:52.760 early on, and it was only a fairly small amount, gotten any aid through to the people of Palestine.

00:28:58.600 And they've spent many tens of millions of dollars on operating this. The amount of lives in Palestine 0.88

00:29:04.520 they could have saved by actually working to get aid to them instead of playing yacht week with a

00:29:11.880 bunch of other rich kids on, frankly, what looked like pretty expensive boats. You know, I know they're

00:29:17.800 not like super rich people yachts, but they cost a pretty penny when you see these boats and, and

00:29:23.640 getting to do this for years on end, it looks like Greta has. That's a deeply selfish thing to do, 1.00

00:29:31.800 a very deeply selfish thing to do, which directly interferes with what you say your goal is.

00:29:38.040 But I love it when she says, because if she says, I'm not doing this for attention,

00:29:41.000 why don't do aid in a way that actually gets it to people? Why not? That sounds good. Yeah,

00:29:47.160 let's do that. Yeah, let's do that. I don't, I don't like that there are people suffering anywhere.

00:29:53.880 Yeah, I, it bothers me when people contribute to nonprofits that are wasteful or efforts that

00:29:59.720 are wasteful. And that's why we're so against any sort of performative action. Are you going to talk

00:30:04.360 about the, the Palestinians versus black activists during the 2020 election? Yeah, yeah, we were,

00:30:13.480 we were sent a clip by someone and I hadn't heard about this, but there was a very real rift on the

00:30:18.120 US left during the 2024 presidential election that crystallized around Kamala Harris's candidacy, 0.98

00:30:26.040 because pro Palestine activists felt that Harris was too supportive of Israel and not responsive

00:30:31.320 enough to demands for ending US military aid, which one, I just think shows how I don't like 0.99

00:30:39.080 using this word, but how dumb Palestinian activists are. Cause it's like, oh, you think Trump is going 0.99

00:30:42.760 to be nicer? Like, have you not heard of, but that is still what Palestine is. It's like either 100% my 0.97

00:30:48.440 way exactly or no deal. Well, no, but, but you saw this Israel multiple times and we'll do an episode

00:30:55.560 on this eventually. Just we'll take so much research for the people who are going to complain,

00:30:58.520 but they have offered peaceful solutions to end hostilities in the region. Yeah. And they basically

00:31:05.080 keep getting told. So, so actually I can just read a take up of it. They didn't give them full

00:31:11.080 sovereignty, but again, when they have, militias have come up and they've started murdering nearby 0.55

00:31:15.400 Jewish population. So why would you? Yeah. Um, uh, they continue to control the airspace, which, 1.00

00:31:20.760 which they, again, why would you do that when they keep bombing you? Yeah. And they, they wouldn't

00:31:26.440 accept that Jerusalem was going, was not going to be a full Palestinian capital versus

00:31:31.240 Yeah. Their demands are unreasonable. And it was also reflected.

00:31:35.000 Yeah. They said, they said, we need control of Jerusalem, which why would they choose to?

00:31:39.640 They're in the position of power here. People like you don't get it. It's, it's

00:31:45.400 they, they, they, they have demanded every time it's come to push to sub. One of the things that we

00:31:50.520 say is, well, we need a rejection of Israel's existence. Like this was in the Hamas charter until 2017. 0.91

00:31:55.400 The, the, the, there, there was, if you actually study the history of the region,

00:32:00.600 instead of like what the leftists tell you, there have been multiple completely reasonable

00:32:05.560 offers made to the other side. And they've always been said, no, we want everything back.

00:32:11.240 All of you guys get out. And that's just not realistic.

00:32:15.080 It's, it's, it's delusional. And yet here we are again, it's 2024 election.

00:32:19.880 It's not delusional. It's a, it's a religiously motivated demand.

00:32:23.080 Yeah. I guess it's, it's, it's that they really don't actually care that much about

00:32:28.280 any outcome, but the one outcome that they care about. So they're not gonna,

00:32:32.520 but no, I think even if I want it, like, let's say I, I was like, no, my end game is 100% like

00:32:38.120 in, enslave the Jews in Israel and take over Jerusalem and have complete control of the region. 0.94

00:32:44.520 I would still, I would still accept the concessions and creep my way in. 0.91

00:32:51.480 No, no, no, no. Because they, they, they, what they were afraid of is if they accepted the concessions

00:32:55.880 and created a two state solution, then other Arab states would recognize Israel, which would.

00:33:01.640 Oh, what? They'd stop funding them or something?

00:33:03.720 Well, no, they, there would be more of a problem if they attacked Israel with the other Arab countries, 1.00

00:33:08.920 because they look at a lot of these regions, like your day job, your, your funding coming

00:33:14.040 into this country is like, one of the major industries is being basically an anti-Jewish 0.91

00:33:20.120 terrorist. And the money is coming in from that, whether it's from, you know, Qatar or from Iran 0.64

00:33:26.280 or from any of the, any of the competing groups, basically the right now, the way, the way things

00:33:31.720 are. And one of the reasons why they don't actually want a two state solution, even the

00:33:34.920 people on the ground is because it is turned Palestine into, Palestine is such a weird word

00:33:41.800 to even call as a thing because Palestine never existed as a state. It existed as a British,

00:33:47.720 oh God, what is it called again?

00:33:49.160 A Dectorate?

00:33:51.080 Yeah. The British mandate of Palestine was established from 1920 to 1948. So it's only operational

00:33:55.960 for 28 years, was established by the League of Nations after World War I, following the collapse

00:34:00.200 of the Ottoman Empire. No sovereign Palestine state existed during this period. And the British

00:34:06.600 governed the regions. So, so one, even talking about Palestine is weird, but it's basically

00:34:11.320 turned these people who never mattered historically into a central focus of all Arab politics because

00:34:17.800 all of the various Arab factors, whether it's the Qataris or the Iranians or the Saudis or the UAE

00:34:23.160 or Egypt, sort of like change their own social dominance order through the way that they fund

00:34:31.880 the terrorist organizations that are in Palestine right now.

00:34:34.680 Yeah. It's become this really strange proxy thing. Let me just get back to this though,

00:34:37.880 because you're going on a really big tangent.

00:34:39.080 Let me get back to that. The point I was making there is before this, I mean,

00:34:42.280 what was this region? Because, you know, as I established, it was not a Palestinian state. It

00:34:46.280 was a, what was it called? A British mandate, right? And before the British mandate, it was

00:34:53.080 under the Ottoman Empire. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic State of Molochs.

00:34:57.880 Go on, I just need to get a Kleenex.

00:34:59.800 Before the Islamic State of the Molochs of Egypt, there was the Ayyub Arab Kurdish Empire. Before that, 0.80

00:35:06.040 there was the Yabed Empire. There was, before that, the Frankish Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem.

00:35:12.600 There was, before that, the Umayyad of Fatinid Empires. And then there was, before that, you had 0.98

00:35:19.160 the Byzantine Empire. Before that, you had the Sassanids. Before that, you had the Byzantines again. 0.70

00:35:26.120 Or some would argue that point, it might have been a separate state. Before that,

00:35:30.520 you had the Hasmoneans. Before that, you had the Seleucid Empire. Before that, you had 0.89

00:35:34.920 Alexander the Great. The big point here is you could go back to the Persians, the Babylonians, etc.

00:35:39.480 But there, there was never a meaningful Palestinian state for this sort of population. They were 1.00

00:35:46.840 always irrelevant in the wider power struggles. And now they are centered so long as a two-state

00:35:55.000 solution isn't achieved and the fighting doesn't stop. Like I said, they're delusional. But the,

00:36:00.120 the point of what happened here was they, the Palestinian activists basically said, 0.99

00:36:04.760 we need to boycott Kamala Harris, which is again, so stupid because she was going to be way more 1.00

00:36:12.520 pro-Palestine than Trump would be. And they were like, let's just force Trump to win because that's 0.99

00:36:17.480 going to be great. And then, but they, I loved his Riviera of the Middle East. 0.64

00:36:23.160 We're going to make the Gaza, the Riviera of the Middle East. Can't we though? 1.00

00:36:38.520 Golf courses stretching far and wide. Trump's dreamland by the seaside.

00:36:48.120 A five-star hotel where camels roam. With golden chandeliers in every home.

00:36:56.120 Peace talks on the 18th hole. Diplomacy with a golfing star.

00:37:06.520 Gaza's the new Riviera. Oh, what a sight. Gold towers shining day and night. 0.86

00:37:15.720 Golf courses stretching far and wide. Trump's dreamland by the seaside.

00:37:25.720 And naturally, a lot of black people on the left were like, hold on, this, this disrespects

00:37:33.240 the historic significance of the first black woman president. And it underplays black American 0.96

00:37:38.520 priorities. And suddenly they found this, this themselves in this position of like, wait,

00:37:43.080 I thought I'm, I'm a black leftist. Like, oh, she's a black woman. Is she at the top of the 0.82

00:37:50.440 priority? Yeah. Like, no, I, I, I meant the top of the priority. And then the Palestinians were like, 1.00

00:37:55.080 no, I'm at the, the, the top of it. So basically this, this pro Palestinian group, especially though,

00:38:01.720 a bunch of them did this, but the biggest one was called uncommitted movement, notably refused

00:38:06.520 to endorse Harris. It cited her unwillingness to change, to, to change military support for 0.88

00:38:10.760 Israel or clearly commit to more forceful pro Palestinian stances. And they, they, they argued

00:38:16.520 that supporting Harris amounted to complicity in Palestinian suffering. So many of the more radical

00:38:22.040 and younger followers posted stuff on social media saying that they weren't going to vote

00:38:27.000 for Kamala Harris, or they were going to vote for third party candidates. And then black activists

00:38:31.560 and voters who of course were, you know, critical of, of us policy in Gaza, because they're on the left.

00:38:40.120 They, they pushed back because they're like, wait, these are coercive attempts by pro

00:38:43.800 Palestinian movements to make Palestine the litmus test for voting. Sometimes they accuse

00:38:49.080 these activists ignoring or minimizing the unique historical struggles of black Americans, which

00:38:54.520 one are real, but two, it's sort of showing of like, well, hold on. I'm used to me being the priority

00:38:59.880 here. What's going on here. Um, and some, some got really frustrated about this.

00:39:04.520 Because we get a lot of people when they watch this and they'll be like, oh, you know, you're

00:39:09.160 overstating Arab views on black people and stuff like this. I literally played for you a clip of

00:39:14.440 Al Jazeera, like a mainstream Arab station with a mainstream Palestinian activist, literally saying

00:39:21.160 black lives don't matter. Yeah. You know, in the US, like when conservatives, when BLM was happening, 1.00

00:39:27.160 people were like, well, you know, all lives matter. When people are like black lives matter, 1.00

00:39:31.080 the response was no, all human lives matter in, in, in, in this region. It's no, they don't matter.

00:39:39.160 I'm sorry. They certainly don't matter as much as Palestinian lives. 1.00

00:39:42.280 Yeah. And it's interesting that in this online debate that, that really didn't come up. What

00:39:45.800 it was really more about was that just really high profile influencers on social media got into these

00:39:52.200 feuds where there were like Arab American and pro Palestinian people criticizing black Americans

00:39:57.880 for continuing to support Harris. Like, how dare you support Kamala Harris, Palestine, Palestine.

00:40:04.280 And then the prominent black influencers pushed back and they're like, you know, it's supporting 0.99

00:40:09.160 Harris isn't about ignoring Palestine, but we need to protect our own community safety and our hard

00:40:14.440 won progress at home. And Trump is going to take that all away. And it, it things like black voters 0.94

00:40:20.920 were accused of abandoning Palestinians and then pro Palestinian. And I think it's important to

00:40:26.280 remember, you know, we've got Palestinian friends. We've had Palestinians on the show,

00:40:29.400 Richard and Nadia. But the, the, there is not a single Arab majority country that is taking refugees

00:40:37.640 from Gaza right now. Like, like a large scale of refugees was, was, was out the plan of sending them 1.00

00:40:42.440 back and people need to ask like, why? Right. And it's because the people who have worked with this

00:40:47.400 community for longer understand the degree to which they are uncompromising and will hijack your

00:40:55.000 movement. And I think the left is beginning to maybe see that, but I don't know, right? Like, I, I

00:41:01.800 think that you will be surprised within leftist circles, how much they just completely taken over

00:41:06.920 by the pro Palestine stuff within a few years, if there isn't some sort of revolt against this.

00:41:12.440 Well, I don't care. I'm not trying to ditch you. I'm letting you know that I did not know you existed.

00:41:18.360 Yeah, I did. In recent days, American Palestinian content creators started an online attack against

00:41:24.200 the black community for their stance on domestic issues and for voting for Kamala Harris. Black

00:41:29.480 people also wear a uniform and get on a plane and come to our countries and kill us. 1.00

00:41:35.000 You vote that signed papers to kill us. I don't want to hear it anymore. What have you done 0.98

00:41:40.360 done to change your government? I don't think crying on your phone is an example.

00:41:45.320 What narrative are you pushing by showing black soldiers in the Middle East being told that we

00:41:50.360 should put our issues and lives and rights behind everybody else's, including Palestinians? 1.00

00:41:57.240 I don't want to hear y'all tell us to put ourselves last. I'm sick of it.

00:42:00.120 The way you all switched up 180 on Palestinians and people who are Palestinian activists, 1.00

00:42:06.200 the second we have a black woman, black woman run for office is disgusting. 1.00

00:42:11.320 Keep Palestinians names out of your mouth when you're trying to defend your decision for voting for 1.00

00:42:16.200 Kamala. I'm starting to see a lot of these videos coming out and I feel like someone really,

00:42:20.520 really has to speak on it. So I'm going to. The genocide in Congo has made eight millions of victims.

00:42:26.200 When he's saying Palestinians and he just doesn't listen.

00:42:31.480 This video coupled with all of the other Palestinians and their disrespectful and denigrating videos 1.00

00:42:36.440 towards people like me, I'm done. So the money that was coming out of my bank account every month

00:42:42.440 to help Palestinians over in Gaza, yeah, that's going to stop. And I'm going to redirect those funds

00:42:48.280 to help the people over in Congo. If I bring up like a black issue and someone's like, oh, 1.00

00:42:53.320 people of color, I said black, black, black, black, because other people of color don't even like us. 1.00

00:42:58.840 You guys keep bashing white people for slavery, but why don't we ever talk about the Arab slave 0.99

00:43:05.000 trade and keep in mind that the Arabs have enslaved more black people than the Europeans combined. 0.88

00:43:10.680 When it comes to the people who we are supposed to be defending over in Palestine, 0.69

00:43:16.040 guess what? Those same communities treat us with voracious racism. And you're asking us,

00:43:23.000 don't look at them. Don't look at our racism. Don't look at our past history and how we've treated your

00:43:28.600 communities. Help us, save us, be there for us. But guess what? When we need you guys,

00:43:34.760 no one's standing up for us. When we have gone through this oppression for the past 400 years,

00:43:40.040 years, why didn't any of you come racing on boats to come and help and save us?

00:43:45.960 Yeah. Yeah. I just, it's not just about blacks versus pro-Palestine people in America. It's also

00:43:55.560 about black versus Latino and Hispanic leftist groups because you have black and Latino activists

00:44:02.840 disagreeing around criminal justice reform and immigration with some black activists feeling like

00:44:08.760 progressive activists focus on immigration reform and the needs of undocumented, undocumented

00:44:16.120 immigrants is, is overshadowing the, the push for police accountability when it comes to anti-black

00:44:22.280 discrimination. And then Latino organizers are arguing that the struggles for citizenship that

00:44:27.400 many Latinos go through doesn't receive enough attention compared to criminal justice issues. And then,

00:44:32.440 of course, you have the LGBTQ plus movement clashing with racial justice movements where, you know,

00:44:39.080 they, they don't like where funding is going over legislation focus is going. And then there's,

00:44:44.840 of course, the, the Asian American concerns over affirmative action, right? Where their, their concerns

00:44:50.120 about stereotyping and model minority narratives are used to minimize and, and pit them against black and

00:44:55.400 Latino communities, which, which causes a lot of trouble. 1.00

00:44:58.440 What we're getting to see is progresses. And there's been some very interesting conversation

00:45:02.280 about this recently in sort of the intellectual spheres for a long time. They're sort of motivated

00:45:05.960 by this idea that economic concerns, we're going to be able to use that to, to create sort of this

00:45:12.280 revolutionary class of human. That's going to want to completely transform society. And that just,

00:45:19.080 every time it did manifest that way, they, they ended up with like mass murder and everything like

00:45:22.600 that. And if you look at like poor Americans, for example, they're much more likely to vote right-wing,

00:45:26.840 right? So that clearly didn't go their way. Like, as I point out, like the, the, the far left these

00:45:31.960 days looks like they're literally dressed up like they're from the capital from the hunger games.

00:45:36.760 So it didn't work. So how do you get your foot soldiers? Well, you go to every group that you can

00:45:43.560 convince to have sort of intra group solidarity and see society as attacking them and try to build a

00:45:50.040 narrative where you exist to protect them. But the problem is, is that it's sort of come due

00:45:57.080 and they haven't actually helped any of those groups. The statistic that I would like to point

00:46:01.000 out. It was, it was all a lie. They came to them and they were like, you are the chosen one. You get

00:46:07.400 special treatment. And they were love bombed. It's very culty, right? Like, oh, we're going to...

00:46:11.000 If you look at income differences between blacks and Hispanics and whites in various regions of the

00:46:15.000 U.S., they are smaller in more Republican districts, bigger in more Democratic districts.

00:46:19.480 Like, it, it, it, they did not deliver. You know, we've pointed out that in the last 10 years,

00:46:25.400 there have been more anti-black hate crime killings than there have been more documented

00:46:31.400 in the 1950s. You know, it is, it is not awesome. They, they, they did not deliver. You look at the

00:46:36.360 rise in white income since the 1950s versus the rise in black income. It's like staggeringly different.

00:46:41.960 They, they did not deliver. They do not care. It is time for people to understand that nobody's

00:46:48.520 going to care about your interests if you're seen as a monolithic voting block, which is in part,

00:46:52.280 I think why progressives have done so little towards black interests recently when contrasted

00:46:57.000 with like other groups, because they're like the, the Palestinians actually didn't vote. If you look

00:47:01.640 in the United States, there was a huge swing. I think in, in many regions, the Arab vote actually

00:47:05.960 went to Trump. Um, and the left like freaked out about this. They were very confused by this.

00:47:13.240 And, and, and that's why people are listening to them now. So they did actually, I also wanted to

00:47:19.720 talk about the LGBTQ shift we've seen recently. So the, there was a movement that crystallized

00:47:24.200 September 20th, 2025 with the launch of LGB International, a new global coalition, which issued a quote,

00:47:30.200 declaration of independence, explicitly cutting ties with trans non-binary queer intersex and TQI plus

00:47:36.760 element of the LGBTQ plus umbrella. The group's manifesto widely shared on X features spokespeople

00:47:43.160 from multiple countries stating LGBT rights, focus on same sex attraction and biological sex

00:47:48.200 are being eroded by an over-intensis on gender identity and legacy organizations. And I think that like

00:47:54.600 they're in 18 countries with 17 plus organizations, and they've gotten a lot of online buzz for this and

00:47:59.880 been covered by a lot of media, you know, like Yahoo news and the telegraph, but the mainstream orgs

00:48:04.840 that still have all the money are, are still a little pissed that this is happening. But I think that

00:48:08.520 we're seeing this in the background that, that people are understanding that this alliance isn't

00:48:13.880 working anymore. Yeah. And that a new alliance is going to need to be had on the left. And I think that

00:48:21.640 the alliance historically was gone into very willfully blindly, like this group thinks gays need to be,

00:48:31.400 you know, if you look at the laws in Gaza, for example, it's, it's a 10 year prison sentence for

00:48:36.200 being gay. Right. Like 10 years. Yeah. 10 years. But then like, after you're out, you're still gay. 0.97

00:48:42.440 So do you get another 10 years? Well, no, you're not allowed to be gay. Like, 1.00

00:48:46.440 you're not allowed to identify that. That doesn't exist in their country. Right. Like they're the

00:48:50.680 crime isn't being gay. It's just identifying as it. And then every time you identify, you get another 0.99

00:48:56.520 10 years. Well, so within Muslim law, it's actually having sex with men. Okay. If you look at Sharia law, 0.98

00:49:03.160 you need to have four people attest to it. So within normal Sharia law, it is rare for gay to be killed, 0.91

00:49:07.960 but like hypothetically they're, they're supposed to be. And so they often are, you know, local

00:49:13.560 justice and stuff like this. The idea that like, well, because it's not technically Sharia law and

00:49:18.120 you didn't have four people see it at the time. Four people are like, yeah, I'm pretty sure you're

00:49:22.200 going to get murdered. And, and we see this across the Islamic world. Like, I'm not like making something 1.00

00:49:27.080 up. It's like, everybody knows that this is the thing that happens. And I think they, they went into

00:49:33.080 it being like, well, we'll just pretend that this group, if it ends up proliferating within

00:49:38.600 our communities, puts us at existential risk because of vibes, like it would be cool if they

00:49:44.920 didn't or something. I mean, I think that they're just so interested in tearing down the West right

00:49:49.480 now that there is, and, and so certain that their faction is going to dominate after the West falls,

00:49:55.560 that there is a willing blindness to that. And the other thing I'm trying to, to, to highlight here

00:50:01.000 is, and no, there's a lot of Muslims in Africa. So I'm not talking like Islam is not inherently

00:50:06.520 anti-African, but I will note that there is going to be much more ability if you're talking

00:50:12.360 about Arab Muslims in terms of building coalitions with African communities than I think many American,

00:50:19.400 African and, and European African organizers are aware of or fully grown, which is going to cause issues.

00:50:29.160 Well, this just changed the way I looked at the left. Cause I, I don't know. I thought that

00:50:36.920 the intersectional subgroups of the progressive movement bought into intersectionality and I didn't

00:50:43.000 realize that they would kind of bulk when asked to bow down to the priorities of the, the, the subgroup

00:50:53.000 du jour. So very interesting stuff. I'm glad you decided to do this episode. Cause one, I just

00:50:58.600 totally thought Greta Thunberg had dropped the flotilla thing. She hasn't. That's crazy.

00:51:04.440 There's better things to do. She just lives on a yacht these days. Greta. 1.00

00:51:07.800 They're not, they're not in these boats. I don't know. Like boats are so freaking expensive.

00:51:13.000 They're just money holes, but also like it's not, it's not glamorous.

00:51:20.120 No, I've, I've lived on boats before. It is not fun. Even, even if they're fairly nice yacht.

00:51:24.280 Yeah. Even if they're very expensive, nice yachts, it's not nice.

00:51:28.280 Like I just imagine her miserable life living with a bunch of like Islamists like activists and, and, 1.00

00:51:34.120 and having to, I'm sure they have fun, but I just, I don't know. I mean, I don't know how much they're

00:51:39.960 going to care when she starts bringing up her environmentalist rhetoric or her, you know,

00:51:44.440 like how this is all really about the environment and beating colonialism is about the, I don't

00:51:50.120 understand what that's about. Like that seems like, so like delusional schizo posting when 0.95

00:51:56.200 people are like, Oh, fighting colonialism is like pro it's like, bro. But the colonialist power,

00:52:01.160 the power is you deem as colonialists are the ones that do the most to fight global warming,

00:52:05.720 right? Like presumably you want them to have more colonial power, right?

00:52:10.520 Well, I mean, we call it, we call the progress pride flag. Thanks to whoever it was who follows

00:52:15.160 this podcast. You called it that.

00:52:16.280 You called it the colonizer's flag. No, no, no, I agree, but I mean, even if they don't buy into

00:52:20.680 that, how can Greta Thornburg say colonialism is the problem when the colonizer regions are the ones 0.99

00:52:27.960 that are the most green and if they still had their colonies, presumably they would make them

00:52:33.880 green as well. It's not supposed to make sense, but here's what does make sense. I love you. You're

00:52:40.600 great. I love you too. And have a spectacular day, Simone. And two AIs going over this or whatever.

00:52:49.560 Just watch it because you're going to be like, well, you know, he's overly generalizing. I'm not

00:52:53.400 overly generalizing. I'm talking about cultural trends and regions have a right to be culturally

00:52:59.160 different when you deny that you are dehumanizing those regions. And the thing I want to note about

00:53:04.280 all of this, especially like the Gaza thing that always gets me and everything like that 1.00

00:53:08.040 is these views that like normal Muslims have, and I think they're entitled to their views

00:53:13.240 are generally to the right culturally of the very views that got Charlie Kirk shot,

00:53:21.080 right? And, and they will cheer him being shot and then freak out about people dying in Gaza

00:53:26.440 who hold the exact same views, but like five times more extreme. I don't like the deluleness.

00:53:34.200 And as you've pointed out, the core reason is, is they don't see these people as human.

00:53:37.720 They do not believe that they are responsible for their beliefs, but Christians are. That's, 0.99

00:53:41.880 that's basically the gist of it. And, and that's why I think they see them like,

00:53:45.720 like animals that they are going to, or, or like savages, which they're going to civilize, 0.57

00:53:50.040 which has long been this, this sort of uneducated colon, colonizers. People always saw the regions

00:53:58.040 they were colonizing. Yeah. But so it goes. Love you. Love you too. All right. I sent you

00:54:04.440 the other link already. So I just hop over there. When I called and they were like,

00:54:08.200 what appointment? And then, then he called me back and this is for her C-section,

00:54:11.880 by the way, that's happening in like three days. Yeah. That, yeah. I mean, getting the surgeon that

00:54:20.760 I have booked was like impossible. And then I thought that they actually didn't have it booked

00:54:27.320 and that I wouldn't have her. I was so scared, Malcolm. That would be so bad. You don't understand.

00:54:35.400 You don't understand. Oh God. I still can't believe what you said about cashews. Well, I mean,

00:54:44.520 what I learned about cashews. I love it. She had no idea. They come in these giant fruits that are

00:54:51.240 like the size of an apple. And I was like, and they're poisonous. And they have to go through all

00:54:54.840 this, this processing. She just had no idea. And I, she's like, they're so expensive. Why are they

00:54:59.160 so expensive? And I was like, why aren't they more expensive? The labor that has to go into them.

00:55:11.240 I mean, I guess we're, we're also discounting the cost of a bunch of other things, which you're

00:55:18.760 discounting to produce, but because they're heavier, they have a lot of water in them. The

00:55:23.960 shipping costs so much. So I didn't expect me making sure that my hospital admission was

00:55:31.560 queued up would end up being this huge delay.

00:55:37.160 See this camera so much better. Someone was saying, by the way, they're like,

00:55:39.880 well, can't you just invest in like 1080p cameras and we have 4k cameras, but I think yours is just

00:55:48.360 not coming through 4k. Can you check your camera settings?

00:55:51.000 It seems like it's coming through great right now. Is it coming through fuzzy on your end?

00:55:54.440 I think other people think your camera... No, my camera in some days has been coming

00:55:58.840 through bad. I'm saying today, right now, is it coming through bad to you?

00:56:02.920 Today it looks okay. Yeah. I don't know why sometimes it looks good and sometimes it looks

00:56:07.640 bad. We have invested like a lot in good cameras. Yeah. And everyone's like, why are you shooting using

00:56:13.000 a potato? And it's like, I don't know. Like expensive cameras are weird because sometimes

00:56:20.040 they just shoot potato quality for no reason that I understand. And I will try to use the podcast,

00:56:26.760 you know, normal ones. I try to use the professional stuff. It's not better. I can pay literally like

00:56:33.080 once I go over a hundred dollars for a camera, it seems no matter how much I pay, I get the exact,

00:56:38.280 it's completely random quality. I can pay $300 and get terrible quality. Yeah. So like we're trying

00:56:43.720 here, people. I just am not good with sound and video effects. That's not my expertise. Although I

00:56:51.000 do edit all of our videos. So, you know, but that's was the help of AI. So, you know, God bless AI. All right,

00:56:57.960 let's do it. Poop, Octavian. You need to make a poo shape. Like a poo energy, like this. Okay, 1.00

00:57:07.080 tell me about what you're working on, Octavian. Yeah, what are you doing, buddy? I'm making this

00:57:10.440 concrete. Let me show you something. Oh, wow. It looks like this. It looks like this. It's like the poop.

00:57:16.920 Yeah, it looks like a poop. Let's make a big turd. Ready? Circle. Circle. Circle. How did it turn that color? 0.98

00:57:24.360 Circle. Oh, well, because we mixed them together. Cut. Oh, did you know it would turn this color?

00:57:30.920 Yeah, sure. It did, huh? Did Mommy tell you not to mix them all together?

00:57:36.920 One egg dinner. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

00:57:40.920 It's so poop. Whoa. It's so face poop. 0.70

00:57:45.560 Titan, I don't think you eat that. No, no, no.

00:57:47.880 It's so slimey. It's sticky. It's like it's gonna cut. Whoa, look at the watermelon slice in there.

00:57:55.080 Oh, you cut it. You made it big and you blew the scissors. Wait. What is this? Oh, I did that.

00:58:00.120 Thank God they didn't stick with the scissors.

00:58:02.760 Ouch. Not for a second there.

00:58:08.760 What do you think, Octavian? What are you making now?

00:58:10.920 It looks pretty good. It looks pretty good.

00:58:14.440 Thanks.

00:58:30.120 You're coming.

00:58:35.400 You're coming.

Based Camp - September 30, 2025

Secret Civil War on the Left： Gays vs. Muslims vs. Blacks

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