Based Camp - September 30, 2025


Secret Civil War on the Left: Gays vs. Muslims vs. Blacks


Episode Stats

Length

58 minutes

Words per Minute

174.96165

Word Count

10,265

Sentence Count

695

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

100


Summary

Greta Thornburg's decision to leave the Gaza flotilla and join forces with the Islamic extremists on board is the subject of this episode, as well as a discussion about the growing divide between the left and the anti-racist, anti-colonialist wing of the left.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone! I am excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be using the split
00:00:05.820 up of the flotilla that Greta Thornburg was involved in and on the board of over a person
00:00:11.700 coming out as gay and then the Muslims on it who were running a lot of stuff was like, well, we
00:00:16.340 won't be part of it then. And it's still sort of operational, but it's having a lot of issues.
00:00:21.140 We'll be using this as a framing device to talk about what has been happening increasingly over
00:00:27.760 just the last couple months, which is a split up or like a forced sort of reconciling in the left
00:00:35.000 between, and by the way, we found some video of Greta Thornburg's flotilla here.
00:00:57.760 A reconciling of many people thought, and it's sort of like every non-white group largely thought
00:01:10.680 that the left was all about centering them, and they're learning that it's not. And while we will
00:01:16.640 be talking about, one of the things we'll be talking about is the conflict between the black
00:01:19.800 force part of the left and the Palestine part of the left, which is like way more gruesome than you
00:01:25.580 would think, specifically because, okay, Simone, are you aware that there are other genocides in
00:01:32.380 the world that are significantly larger than, if you consider Gaza a genocide, than what's going on
00:01:37.360 in Gaza? Are you aware of this? I mean, nothing's coming up in the news. I couldn't- No, no, no, of course
00:01:44.680 nobody's talking about it. None of the leftists are freaking out about it. Greta Thornburg's not doing
00:01:47.900 anything about it. But no, there's significant, multiple larger genocides. But the largest genocide in
00:01:52.380 the world right now is happening in the Sudan. Do you know who is killing who in this genocide?
00:01:58.560 No. Arabs are killing blacks. Oh, no. Oh. And you can say, oh, come on, Malcolm, you must be
00:02:07.160 misframing it. So this is from an AI here, because I ask, is this actually true? Yes. The ongoing
00:02:11.520 genocide in Sudan, particularly in the Darfur region, largely involves Arab-dominated forces led by the
00:02:16.420 Rapid Support Forces, RSF, and allied Arab militias perpetrating systemic atrocities against non-Arab,
00:02:22.380 often referred to as Black or African ethnic groups, such as the Malsuti, Furr, and Zagazwi.
00:02:27.980 I can't pronounce those. This ethnic dimension is the core driver of the violence. So yeah.
00:02:33.160 This is- I remember there being Darfur activists in college. Yeah, so it is possible to protest
00:02:40.700 Darfur. We just stopped doing it within the current era of leftist media. Got tired of it?
00:02:46.120 Or like, I don't know. Well, no, we didn't get tired of it. This is a completely new conflict
00:02:48.900 that's happening in the same region. This is a new one. Okay. So this is not the Darfur of like-
00:02:53.360 Well, obviously they're connected, but it's a new genocide. Yes. It is. It is mass murder of
00:02:59.240 children, mass graves, really horrifying stuff. And then people will be like, well, we're not funding
00:03:05.040 this one. And it's like, well, buckle up, buddy, because guess who is funding them? The UAE. And they're
00:03:13.220 doing it to get rid of the blacks in the region so that they can control the ports more easily
00:03:17.860 and use it to export gold. Because I think they can get like 80% of the gold from the region or
00:03:21.640 something. We're not going to go too far into that. But throughout this, what you will find,
00:03:26.820 and I think that many people, they see like one dimension here where they're like, they see the
00:03:32.060 Gaza-Palestine thing. And they're like, this is at odds with leftist views around gay rights,
00:03:39.580 which we'll get into. And it is. But I think they miss how sort of unilaterally antithetical
00:03:47.600 to most purported urban monoculture and leftist values. The Arab community, and specifically,
00:03:54.380 obviously, Arab communities are different and there's diversity within the communities.
00:03:57.440 But I'm talking about dominant beliefs in these communities are towards their other agendas,
00:04:02.320 like helping, for example, black people. And I think that we're sort of coming to a head.
00:04:07.000 We're also going to talk about what has recently happened, which is a widespread movement of
00:04:12.000 LGB organizations that are splitting from trans organizations and many activists
00:04:16.340 recently with this idea that they are going to push like a divorce or a forced separating.
00:04:22.460 To go to the gay stuff, because you're like, how, you know, anti-gay is a place like Gaza, okay?
00:04:28.640 So in 2000, there were four Palestinians killed in the Gaza West Bank for just being gay,
00:04:35.520 which led to a lot of gay people in Gaza to flee to Israel where they were accepted for asylum
00:04:40.760 to protect themselves from the Gazans. If the Gazans controlled, like Jerusalem, for example,
00:04:47.940 the gay people in Jerusalem would be killed. They're able to go there for protection now because
00:04:52.520 they are killed in Gaza. Now, what's really wild here is we actually have like quite detailed like
00:04:59.120 torture and murder of gay people because of captured records that they have found
00:05:04.200 of a senior Hamas commander in Gaza who was arrested, beaten, placed in solitary confinement
00:05:10.580 before being murdered, predominantly because he was found to be gay. Other captured documents
00:05:16.560 revealed that they tortured and killed two other gay members specifically for, and I love this
00:05:23.020 because this is extensively documented in Hamas's own records.
00:05:26.820 That these two people were killed because they gay-graped some of the Israeli captives, which implies
00:05:35.780 that regular graping must have been very common if they thought they could get away with gay
00:05:41.060 graping in an Islamic. Like, I love when people are like, oh, no, no, no, no, even though the
00:05:45.540 hostages have said, yes, rape is very common among the hostages.
00:05:48.740 Yeah, but they're like, it's fine. Just don't, don't be gay about it.
00:05:53.140 Don't be gay about it, guys.
00:05:55.940 Oh, man. Oh, okay.
00:05:58.700 By the way, for the other of you, if you want to get an idea of like the scale of the various
00:06:02.440 genocides that we're looking at in the world right now, the one that is Arabs killing blacks in the
00:06:07.440 Sudan, there have been around 150,000 deaths and around 12 million people are displaced with 11
00:06:15.040 million internal displacement, 3 million refugees. And then if you look at the next biggest, which is
00:06:20.560 again, not the Gaza war, it's the DRC Eastern conflict, it's had around 100,000 casualties,
00:06:26.040 7 million refugees. And then if you look at the Gaza war, if you consider this a genocide,
00:06:32.100 it has just 64,300 casualties, which, which, which would make it about half the size of what's going
00:06:39.960 on in the Sudan right now, but only around 1.9 million people. And keep in mind, like this is,
00:06:44.700 this is still a lot of people. I'm not saying that this is a good thing. Yeah, any death is tragic.
00:06:50.240 But if, if we're talking about effective altruism or tackling the, the biggest,
00:06:56.320 the biggest atrocities in terms of- Would it be much easier to end the Sudan conflict than it would
00:07:01.620 be to end the, the conflict that we're dealing with in Israel and Gaza right now? Like it's a much
00:07:05.200 more realistic thing to do. And this is why when you talk about something like Greta Thornburg,
00:07:08.980 and I, and I think this is really telling, and I want to get into the psychology of this,
00:07:11.820 why does she climate activists decide one day not to address the biggest genocides in the world?
00:07:17.900 And people will be like, well, just because the genocide's happening in another region,
00:07:21.400 doesn't mean you can't be talking about a genocide in, in this region, right?
00:07:25.120 Well, isn't she supposed to be the id of the left? I mean-
00:07:28.240 Right. Yeah. Well, she is kind of, but I, but what I want to find here is when a leftist is like,
00:07:32.940 well, you can't complain about the genocide here and then say that like, we shouldn't be talking
00:07:36.960 about the genocide here. And I'm like, I'm not saying that, right? But the problem is,
00:07:40.320 I can go to your tweets. I can look at what your sort of lieutenants are doing,
00:07:44.400 your Greta Thornburgs, and not a one of them. I mean, I would argue that the tweets that the
00:07:49.560 Sudan conflict is getting, despite being significantly larger, is probably 0.5% of the
00:07:56.460 tweets that Gaza gets from leftist activists. So the question is, is why don't you talk about it
00:08:03.540 when it's Arabs killing blacks? Why do you talk about it when it's Jews killing Arabs?
00:08:10.760 Like, and, and Arab, and I'll put a clip on the screen here. It's in another language,
00:08:15.420 but, but for context here, so you, you, you don't actually have to read the full saying,
00:08:20.080 this is the Palestinian analyst, Monar Shakif on Al Jazeera TV. So mainstream TV, you know,
00:08:27.040 in the Middle East, and they're even talking about this there. He, he pointed out that more people
00:08:32.580 have been killed in the Sudan and Gaza in the past two years. But he then goes on to say,
00:08:37.240 but nobody cares about them because the blood of Palestinians is precious. You don't see people
00:08:42.820 in West Hamages protesting their deaths.
00:08:45.740 They believe that there is a belief. And I'll note this to somebody who, he said,
00:08:51.400 Even the worst of us, our blood is dry.
00:08:54.560 The world is all happy to see Gaza.
00:08:57.840 I tell you, in Sudan, there was a disaster,
00:09:01.640 and there was a battle,
00:09:02.760 more than what happened in Palestine,
00:09:04.520 in these years.
00:09:05.640 No, that's right.
00:09:06.320 No one feels like them.
00:09:07.520 No one talks about them.
00:09:08.840 But we are in museums, in the churches.
00:09:12.560 They believe, and there is a belief,
00:09:14.400 and I'll note this as somebody who hangs out
00:09:16.200 with upper-class Arabs and stuff like this.
00:09:19.000 They are the only upper, like, okay,
00:09:20.960 so I lived in Korea for a long time.
00:09:23.360 You lived in Japan for a long time.
00:09:25.320 There is an undercurrent of, like, racism
00:09:27.640 against, like, Black people in those countries.
00:09:29.960 But if you are among, like, upper-class educated people,
00:09:33.200 you would not expect racist jokes.
00:09:35.560 Among upper-class Arabs who I hang out with,
00:09:38.640 racist jokes against Blacks are very common.
00:09:41.040 There's a much more open disdain in those communities
00:09:43.440 towards Black communities.
00:09:44.680 For those who'd like to group together,
00:09:46.200 free Palestine, free Sudan, free the Congo,
00:09:49.560 I want you to take a look at this.
00:09:50.720 The young Black boy in that clip, his name is Joshua Malito Malau.
00:09:56.840 He was a Tanzanian student who was in Israel studying agriculture
00:10:14.520 so that he could learn and take it home to his family, help his country.
00:10:18.120 He was brutally murdered by Hamas.
00:10:20.520 They knew he wasn't Jewish, they knew he wasn't Israeli, they didn't care.
00:10:24.240 They terrorized him, tortured him, killed him,
00:10:27.680 and then shot him several times in the head after they killed him.
00:10:30.520 This is how Hamas and the broader Islamic Jihadist world feels about Africans,
00:10:35.240 which is why they enslaved them by the millions across the African continent,
00:10:39.240 including in places like Sudan.
00:10:41.640 Stop claiming solidarity where there is none.
00:10:45.360 Stop.
00:10:46.360 And people will be like, well, you know, you can't blame a community just for what it's,
00:10:54.920 you know, elites are doing.
00:10:57.200 And we'll get into, well, it's not just the elites.
00:10:59.800 There have been campaigns in some of these countries of going around and lynching people
00:11:03.080 recently and stuff like that.
00:11:04.120 So I guess it's pretty horrifying.
00:11:06.680 And I want to be clear here.
00:11:08.200 If you are thinking to yourself, well, you know, my fellow activists are just unaware
00:11:13.000 that there is a giant other genocide of Arabs killing black people.
00:11:18.520 And, and that is why they're not protesting it.
00:11:21.160 That's why they're not talking about it.
00:11:22.760 And I'd be like, well, somebody in your movement is educated, right?
00:11:25.640 Like there's somebody at the top of your movement.
00:11:28.360 Why is it that the people at the top of your movement in terms of the information
00:11:31.880 they're filtering down to people under them, when it can be used to villainize Jews,
00:11:37.800 they are highlighting that information.
00:11:40.280 When that information could be used to protect black communities,
00:11:43.320 they are hiding that information.
00:11:45.240 You have to ask yourself, what does that show about their actual values?
00:11:51.080 Before I go further, do you want any, any comments here about sort of what's going on
00:11:56.680 in the left?
00:11:57.240 And, and I think that the right did a very good job of sort of forcing the left for a long
00:12:01.320 time, like, look at it, look at what they do to gays, but we haven't done the same with
00:12:05.880 blacks yet.
00:12:06.680 And I think we need to do the same with blacks as well.
00:12:09.000 Look at what they do to blacks.
00:12:10.680 I think that's fair.
00:12:11.560 I mean, what, what I, I appreciate about the, the way that actually several people,
00:12:15.880 I don't know if this is just a trending idea right now who followed this podcast have
00:12:21.240 spoken with us or, or DM desk or emailed us about this, this reality that they're seeing
00:12:28.600 that basically the only actually woke people who are woke, who identify as woke are, are
00:12:37.800 white because every other group is just an interest group or, or specifically, I should
00:12:43.800 say white, cis, non-disabled people, because everyone else is just a special interest group.
00:12:50.760 And as soon as it comes up in the movement, that it's their interest group versus the
00:12:56.840 priorities of a different interest group.
00:12:58.920 And if those come into conflict in any way, then it just starts to fall apart.
00:13:03.880 And I had never even considered that that could be-
00:13:07.080 Crack maybe one we were dealing with recently, who's like super woke.
00:13:09.960 And the moment like crack came up, she thought she was like the queen of Shiba, like, like
00:13:14.920 Prince Ali walking into a place, getting to shut other people down in the conversation.
00:13:19.560 And just, just look very buffoonish in context.
00:13:22.120 I'm not going to go too into it, but it, it, you see this, right?
00:13:25.320 Yeah.
00:13:25.400 Like that's, that's why they're a part of this because they think that they are afforded special
00:13:29.400 status.
00:13:30.040 Yeah.
00:13:30.360 And in the moment that you're not afforded special status, you try to attack whatever group
00:13:35.080 is, is taking it away.
00:13:36.200 But it just, I don't know.
00:13:37.640 I, I had, I had believed I'd labored under the impression that every member of the woke
00:13:43.240 contingency contributed equally to the, the game of intersectionality and would defer appropriately
00:13:51.800 to whatever like was considered to be the most worthy cause or subgroup or in need subgroup
00:13:58.200 of the moment.
00:13:58.840 And then all this information has been sent to us on how that is not actually the case and
00:14:04.520 sort of like gay rights or black rights versus Palestine is just one of, it turns out quite
00:14:12.680 a few examples of this.
00:14:14.200 And I just, it's mind blowing to me because I, I didn't, I really didn't understand that,
00:14:19.960 that this was just a mostly it's, it's a, it's a very varied supremacy culture.
00:14:27.000 Yeah.
00:14:27.800 With one, like, like with a substrate that is willing to consistently put itself at the
00:14:33.160 bottom.
00:14:33.400 And that is cis, non-disabled white people.
00:14:37.720 Yeah.
00:14:38.040 So weird.
00:14:38.440 It's so weird.
00:14:39.320 At the bottom.
00:14:39.800 They never do for long.
00:14:41.000 I mean, if they're in it long enough, all of a sudden now they're genderqueer or now they're,
00:14:45.560 yeah, that's right.
00:14:46.280 They're neurodiverse or now they're, you know, that's, that's the way it works.
00:14:50.840 But I want to go into this, this more like this, this Arab black conflict is part of
00:14:54.840 this because this just getting to this and we'll probably do another episode where we
00:14:57.720 dive deeper into this.
00:14:58.440 I found this really fascinating.
00:14:59.880 And I personally knew that Arabs are like racist against black people more than other
00:15:05.240 groups.
00:15:05.800 But I didn't realize that like generally whenever they get the chance, they start trying to
00:15:10.680 exterminate any neighboring black population.
00:15:12.600 Yeah, I didn't.
00:15:13.400 That's.
00:15:14.120 And I wasn't aware of this.
00:15:15.640 And I think that like, this needs to be part of the discourse more maybe.
00:15:19.480 So if this is actually a thing, I just, no one's ever talked to me about it.
00:15:24.120 This is mind blowing to me.
00:15:25.400 So we talked about this in Sudan during the first and second Sudanese wars.
00:15:28.840 So this is the earlier set of wars, right?
00:15:30.760 That you were talking about the Darfur conflict that you heard about 1955 to 2005.
00:15:35.640 An estimated 2.5 to 3.5 million black indigenous Africans were killed or ethnically cleansed
00:15:41.640 by racially motivated attacks by Arabs.
00:15:44.200 So that was by Arabs too.
00:15:46.280 Yes, that was by Arabs too.
00:15:47.160 Yes.
00:15:47.640 Then in Mauritania, despite slavery's official ban in 1981, codified in 2007.
00:15:53.560 So in Mauritania, slavery wasn't banned until 2007.
00:15:56.840 Okay.
00:15:57.720 Even today, 10 to 20% of the population remains enslaved.
00:16:02.040 And it is almost universally the darker skin Mauritanians or the black Mauritanians.
00:16:09.160 So they still keep slaves.
00:16:10.440 And they were very, very big in the slave trade, obviously, you know, the Barbary Coast and everything
00:16:14.600 like that.
00:16:15.800 Great.
00:16:15.960 So in Egypt, former President Anwar Sadar, a Nubian, so black, faced racial insults for
00:16:23.400 appearing, quote unquote, not Egyptian enough, dubbed Nasser's Black Poodle.
00:16:27.800 Soccer player Sadiqa quit national play as fans chanted racial slurs and displayed a back dog on
00:16:34.920 on his jersey.
00:16:35.960 Sudanese refugees and darker skinned Egyptians report daily bias discrimination and abuse.
00:16:41.160 Libya, 2000, anti-African riots saw black migrants and called them, oh, by the way,
00:16:46.600 I should note in Darfur, when they mass murder people, the general slur that is used by the Arabs
00:16:53.080 for the blacks that they are killing is slave.
00:16:55.880 Their job is to kill the slaves.
00:16:58.760 So that's sort of like in their language, the N-word, but like even more direct.
00:17:03.480 So you get an idea of what the vibe is here, people.
00:17:06.280 It's really bad.
00:17:09.320 Libya, in 2000, anti-African riots saw black migrants called quote unquote slaves and quote
00:17:14.920 unquote animals.
00:17:15.960 During the 2011 Civil War, Amnesty International documented massacres of black Libyans and
00:17:20.920 sub-Saharan Africans solely based on skid color.
00:17:23.960 In Morocco, the Trab-Saharan slave trade's legacy endures with black Moroccans derogatorily
00:17:29.320 called abda or slave or kanda servant.
00:17:33.240 This is like a regular thing there.
00:17:34.760 This is not like, you know, in the U.S., you don't actually get racial slurings anymore.
00:17:37.880 This is a normal part of daily life of being black in one of these countries.
00:17:42.760 And they still have the segregation on school buses, sub-Saharan migrants and other forms
00:17:47.960 of sort of apartheid.
00:17:50.280 Okay.
00:17:51.960 Wow.
00:17:52.280 By the way, I loved it.
00:17:54.200 Yeah.
00:17:54.360 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:17:55.640 I want to lift this because they keep saying, well, just because there's a genocide in one
00:18:02.600 region doesn't mean I can't talk about a genocide in another region.
00:18:05.880 And you then have to say, well, except this genocide is about twice the size, easier to
00:18:12.600 stop.
00:18:13.000 And you're not talking about it even 1% the amount you're talking about the other region.
00:18:18.040 Like Greta Thornburg effing went, tried to like go to to Gaza, you know, did the whole
00:18:24.440 thing, was arrested, refused to watch any of the videos of the atrocities that took place
00:18:27.960 that day because I'm just refusing to be educated on the topic, was sent back by Israel, goes
00:18:33.320 back on another flotilla, goes to Gaza again.
00:18:36.280 I didn't even know.
00:18:37.720 I thought you just stopped.
00:18:38.760 That's crazy.
00:18:39.400 Could she not have done Sudan next?
00:18:41.800 Could she not have done like, if you're doing this for multiple years, why not do one year
00:18:45.720 for Gaza and one year for Sudan, right?
00:18:48.120 Like, that seems like a thing, right?
00:18:51.080 But to continue here, and the reason I'm pointing all this out is I'm not pointing out that like,
00:18:55.240 Arabs are intrinsically racist or anything like that.
00:18:58.600 You know, this is not the point.
00:19:00.520 But what I am saying is Arabs have a distinct culture that is unique to their regions as
00:19:06.680 distinct as American and Korean and American and Japanese, and you might have disagreements
00:19:12.680 with parts of their culture.
00:19:14.120 But I think everybody has a right to their individual culture.
00:19:18.280 But I think it's also important to recognize when aspects of a culture that are normative
00:19:23.400 within a region are antagonistic to your stated objective.
00:19:27.880 Like when you're like, okay, we'll all get together and we won't fight for a little bit
00:19:32.520 just to get the conflict resolved in this particular region, right?
00:19:37.880 It's important to note if everyone of the group that you're trying to save is like,
00:19:44.040 and once we have our arms freed up again, let's start funding those Sudanese.
00:19:49.960 Right now we're splitting our money, you know, we can expand our influence in Africa as well.
00:19:55.240 So it's important to note this stuff, right?
00:19:57.800 You know, and that I think it's also useful for conservatives who are fooled by the progressive
00:20:06.120 rhetoric and do not understand how much we have in common with, in terms of our goals,
00:20:15.160 with Christian Africans, for sort of the planet, for humanity.
00:20:20.280 This is a group that is very easy for us to work with.
00:20:24.120 And in many cases, even, even Muslim Africans, I'll point out here that the,
00:20:28.280 when I, when I talk about Arabs murdering blacks in these regions,
00:20:31.320 I'm not talking about, while they, while they do happen to be Muslims, it is important to note
00:20:36.200 that they are murdering the Africans, not because of their religion,
00:20:39.000 but because of their skin color. They don't really care if they're Muslim or not.
00:20:42.120 Not that that makes it better, but it is an important note.
00:20:45.880 Okay. So you were under the impression that the flotilla thing, because this is what the
00:20:49.960 flotilla is trying to say is, oh, it's not because they're gay.
00:20:52.920 It's not because we have a bunch of Muslims who refuse to work with gays.
00:20:56.120 So let's read parts of the-
00:20:57.640 It's propaganda from the Zionist lobby.
00:21:00.680 The Zionist lobby. Yes.
00:21:01.880 The Zionist lobby.
00:21:03.320 Can anti-Semitism bring, bring them together?
00:21:08.760 So we'll see.
00:21:09.240 The great uniter. Yes. There we go.
00:21:12.120 Yeah. And if anybody here is listening to this and they're like, why do you need to point out the
00:21:18.040 racism that's normalized within many Arab communities?
00:21:21.320 It's because it is framed today within leftist rhetoric that a white population.
00:21:27.160 So let's say Northern European populations are racist, vile people, right?
00:21:34.200 And what I'm pointing out here is, and this is important, that the amount of racism that you
00:21:41.320 are going to see in any country dominated by a Northern Europeans is absolutely astronomically
00:21:48.440 minuscule anti-black racism when contrasted with the amount you're going to see in any country
00:21:52.600 dominated by Arabs. And this isn't to say Arabs are worse.
00:21:55.560 Like people have a right to ethno preferences, but I think that there's this like delusion,
00:22:00.120 right? That these two groups are friends in some way.
00:22:08.040 And I note here, if you're a black person and you're watching this and you believe that Egypt
00:22:13.720 used to be black, it's more complicated than a lot of people make it seem. There were periods
00:22:19.560 where Nubians had control or whatever, but suppose you do believe that Egypt used to be black.
00:22:23.720 You got to ask yourself why it's Arab now then. Why, why do black people who go there,
00:22:28.760 that would imply that somebody got rid of all the black people who used to live in Egypt.
00:22:34.040 I, was it, was it Yacoub? What did they call him? Yacouba or whatever? The, the,
00:22:38.600 the one from the. Oh, the evil one. Yeah. Who made white people. Yeah. Who made white people.
00:22:44.360 What was it him? It was Yacoub, right? Yacoub, Yacoub. Or, or you could say it's the
00:22:50.120 populations that are there right now that got rid of the original population. Now that, that isn't
00:22:54.520 actually what happened. Although there was large and, and violent Arab migrations into
00:22:59.640 Northern Africa, but the populations that were there before are not what many people would
00:23:03.560 have considered black Africa. It doesn't necessarily matter. Anyway, to continue here,
00:23:07.560 GF. I'm just pointing out that even from their own propaganda questions should be coming up.
00:23:14.040 Mike, if North Africa used to be black, why isn't it black now? And the people who are living there
00:23:21.400 who aren't black probably have something to do with that. Again, that's not exactly what happened.
00:23:26.040 And a lot of this happened a long time ago. And Egypt is one of the, the less racist of the countries
00:23:30.680 that we're talking about. Although a black soccer player quit due to the amount of racism he dealt with
00:23:35.560 in the country. So like it's, it's there. Yeah. GSF co-coordinator Khalid Bajami announced his resignation,
00:23:44.040 in protest at the presence of LGBT activists in the flotilla, including Safi Adi, who identified
00:23:49.480 as a queer activist. He said, quote, we were lied to about the identity of some of the participants
00:23:54.600 in the vanguard of the flotilla. I accused the organizers of having a hidden aspect from us,
00:23:59.480 end quote. He complained in two streams on social media. Other figures, including activist Marin Meftin
00:24:05.800 and presenter Samir Alfei, condemned what they saw as an attempt to impose culturally progressive
00:24:12.200 agenda unrelated to the Palestinian cause, describing it as a, quote, red line crossed,
00:24:17.240 end quote, and an attack on, quote, societal values, end quote. And note, they didn't like
00:24:23.880 try to make this about promoting gay agenda or anything, right? Like they're, they didn't like
00:24:29.480 confuse gay agenda with the agenda tied to Palestine. Just a person who was on one of the boats
00:24:36.760 happened to be gay. He wasn't like doing gay stuff. He wasn't like hitting on them or promoting gay
00:24:45.880 stuff while they were doing it. He just existed as a gay person on not their boat, one of the boats.
00:24:52.840 Well, he didn't hide it. Like his Instagram bio is rainbow communist queer militant based in Tunisia
00:25:02.280 from the river to the sea. But he did say queer and there was a rainbow. So he wasn't hiding it.
00:25:08.040 Yeah. Okay. So here's a great quote from one of them who left over this. This is Al-Wafi.
00:25:15.960 Quote, Palestine is first and foremost, the cause of Muslims. It cannot be separated from its spiritual
00:25:20.840 and religious dimensions, with Jerusalem at the heart of its symbols and destiny.
00:25:25.560 So why involve in it dubious activists serving other agendas that do not concern us and have
00:25:32.040 nothing to do with Gaza, such as homosexuality, exclamation, question mark. And, and note here,
00:25:38.440 again, he wasn't like promoting homosexuality. He just existed as a gay person. They're like,
00:25:43.400 you don't understand how important it is that we kill gay people.
00:25:48.360 Yeah. His plan wasn't to go and provide aid and then turn Palestine gay or anything.
00:25:54.760 Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. But there, but I think that this is the thing,
00:25:58.360 the progressives think that this is what's going to happen and they don't understand that they're
00:26:02.360 not breeding. They're not really relevant. They're sort of idiotic patsies for other people's agenda.
00:26:08.840 And we, those of us who are breeding and think about the future need to be aware of where our potential
00:26:16.120 allies are and where are the groups that are most likely to ally against us. Even if we are
00:26:22.280 temporarily allied with them for now. And I think conservatives in the United States,
00:26:28.280 my brother in Christ, black Christian Africans are one of our strongest potential allies going into
00:26:32.600 the future. They are a, a high fertility group. They may not be high technology or, or high industry
00:26:38.680 right now, but that doesn't mean that we aren't going to still benefit from having allies in some
00:26:45.000 regions that are very, very populous. And there are also regions that historically like conservative
00:26:51.400 Americans. If you are unaware, Bush, for example, is very, very popular in Africa.
00:26:58.120 George W. Bush?
00:27:00.120 Yeah. W. Bush is extremely popular in Africa. And I will note here, if you're like...
00:27:05.000 Is that because of his work on AIDS?
00:27:06.840 It's because of his work on a lot of things. Yeah. He, he, he dealt with Africa in a way that
00:27:12.040 sort of took them seriously. So if you look at like shutting down USAID and people are like,
00:27:15.960 well, that's going to get Africans to like hate you. And it's like, no, if you actually look at
00:27:18.760 what was happening in these communities where this stuff was being distributed,
00:27:21.400 they thought that they were like being sterilized and stuff. The workers, there's a reason why they
00:27:26.360 talked about how many USAID workers were killed. You don't kill someone who you think is there to help
00:27:30.520 you. They were forcing their views on them in the same way they forced them on us.
00:27:34.840 They don't like this stuff any more than we do, you know? And, and if you're, I don't,
00:27:40.360 I don't want to go too deep on that, on that stuff. But what I'm pointing out here is, is, is,
00:27:44.040 they don't want or need us to be forcing aid down their streets to throats to build alliances with
00:27:52.040 them. That's not the way the African Christian communities are. I won't go too much, but you see
00:27:56.760 what I mean?
00:27:57.000 Well, so what happened with the flotilla that, that I read was that this sort of really slowed
00:28:02.920 things down. It, it made them look bad.
00:28:05.160 Well, Gretchenberg resigned from her post.
00:28:07.160 Yeah. She stepped down from her like board position. She still refers to herself as an active
00:28:13.400 supporter and participant, but not in a leadership capacity. So they sort of lost her
00:28:19.320 leadership endorsement. It's, it's not a good look for them. It's not helping the cause.
00:28:24.600 Well, and for me, it was embarrassing to find out that she's still involved with this. She
00:28:28.760 did her thing with the flotilla. She's not getting them more attention now or anything like that.
00:28:33.400 Is this just because she doesn't have a home or something? And she just lives to be an activist.
00:28:36.920 And I love what, so, so she goes around and she, in this piece that I didn't quote it, but she was
00:28:42.680 talking about how I'm not doing this for attention. You know, I'm doing this to get aid for the people
00:28:46.920 in Palestine. This flotilla thing has been operational for like 10 years at this point. They have only once
00:28:52.760 early on, and it was only a fairly small amount, gotten any aid through to the people of Palestine.
00:28:58.600 And they've spent many tens of millions of dollars on operating this. The amount of lives in Palestine
00:29:04.520 they could have saved by actually working to get aid to them instead of playing yacht week with a
00:29:11.880 bunch of other rich kids on, frankly, what looked like pretty expensive boats. You know, I know they're
00:29:17.800 not like super rich people yachts, but they cost a pretty penny when you see these boats and, and
00:29:23.640 getting to do this for years on end, it looks like Greta has. That's a deeply selfish thing to do,
00:29:31.800 a very deeply selfish thing to do, which directly interferes with what you say your goal is.
00:29:38.040 But I love it when she says, because if she says, I'm not doing this for attention,
00:29:41.000 why don't do aid in a way that actually gets it to people? Why not? That sounds good. Yeah,
00:29:47.160 let's do that. Yeah, let's do that. I don't, I don't like that there are people suffering anywhere.
00:29:53.880 Yeah, I, it bothers me when people contribute to nonprofits that are wasteful or efforts that
00:29:59.720 are wasteful. And that's why we're so against any sort of performative action. Are you going to talk
00:30:04.360 about the, the Palestinians versus black activists during the 2020 election? Yeah, yeah, we were,
00:30:13.480 we were sent a clip by someone and I hadn't heard about this, but there was a very real rift on the
00:30:18.120 US left during the 2024 presidential election that crystallized around Kamala Harris's candidacy,
00:30:26.040 because pro Palestine activists felt that Harris was too supportive of Israel and not responsive
00:30:31.320 enough to demands for ending US military aid, which one, I just think shows how I don't like
00:30:39.080 using this word, but how dumb Palestinian activists are. Cause it's like, oh, you think Trump is going
00:30:42.760 to be nicer? Like, have you not heard of, but that is still what Palestine is. It's like either 100% my
00:30:48.440 way exactly or no deal. Well, no, but, but you saw this Israel multiple times and we'll do an episode
00:30:55.560 on this eventually. Just we'll take so much research for the people who are going to complain,
00:30:58.520 but they have offered peaceful solutions to end hostilities in the region. Yeah. And they basically
00:31:05.080 keep getting told. So, so actually I can just read a take up of it. They didn't give them full
00:31:11.080 sovereignty, but again, when they have, militias have come up and they've started murdering nearby
00:31:15.400 Jewish population. So why would you? Yeah. Um, uh, they continue to control the airspace, which,
00:31:20.760 which they, again, why would you do that when they keep bombing you? Yeah. And they, they wouldn't
00:31:26.440 accept that Jerusalem was going, was not going to be a full Palestinian capital versus
00:31:31.240 Yeah. Their demands are unreasonable. And it was also reflected.
00:31:35.000 Yeah. They said, they said, we need control of Jerusalem, which why would they choose to?
00:31:39.640 They're in the position of power here. People like you don't get it. It's, it's
00:31:45.400 they, they, they, they have demanded every time it's come to push to sub. One of the things that we
00:31:50.520 say is, well, we need a rejection of Israel's existence. Like this was in the Hamas charter until 2017.
00:31:55.400 The, the, the, there, there was, if you actually study the history of the region,
00:32:00.600 instead of like what the leftists tell you, there have been multiple completely reasonable
00:32:05.560 offers made to the other side. And they've always been said, no, we want everything back.
00:32:11.240 All of you guys get out. And that's just not realistic.
00:32:15.080 It's, it's, it's delusional. And yet here we are again, it's 2024 election.
00:32:19.880 It's not delusional. It's a, it's a religiously motivated demand.
00:32:23.080 Yeah. I guess it's, it's, it's that they really don't actually care that much about
00:32:28.280 any outcome, but the one outcome that they care about. So they're not gonna,
00:32:32.520 but no, I think even if I want it, like, let's say I, I was like, no, my end game is 100% like
00:32:38.120 in, enslave the Jews in Israel and take over Jerusalem and have complete control of the region.
00:32:44.520 I would still, I would still accept the concessions and creep my way in.
00:32:51.480 No, no, no, no. Because they, they, they, what they were afraid of is if they accepted the concessions
00:32:55.880 and created a two state solution, then other Arab states would recognize Israel, which would.
00:33:01.640 Oh, what? They'd stop funding them or something?
00:33:03.720 Well, no, they, there would be more of a problem if they attacked Israel with the other Arab countries,
00:33:08.920 because they look at a lot of these regions, like your day job, your, your funding coming
00:33:14.040 into this country is like, one of the major industries is being basically an anti-Jewish
00:33:20.120 terrorist. And the money is coming in from that, whether it's from, you know, Qatar or from Iran
00:33:26.280 or from any of the, any of the competing groups, basically the right now, the way, the way things
00:33:31.720 are. And one of the reasons why they don't actually want a two state solution, even the
00:33:34.920 people on the ground is because it is turned Palestine into, Palestine is such a weird word
00:33:41.800 to even call as a thing because Palestine never existed as a state. It existed as a British,
00:33:47.720 oh God, what is it called again?
00:33:49.160 A Dectorate?
00:33:51.080 Yeah. The British mandate of Palestine was established from 1920 to 1948. So it's only operational
00:33:55.960 for 28 years, was established by the League of Nations after World War I, following the collapse
00:34:00.200 of the Ottoman Empire. No sovereign Palestine state existed during this period. And the British
00:34:06.600 governed the regions. So, so one, even talking about Palestine is weird, but it's basically
00:34:11.320 turned these people who never mattered historically into a central focus of all Arab politics because
00:34:17.800 all of the various Arab factors, whether it's the Qataris or the Iranians or the Saudis or the UAE
00:34:23.160 or Egypt, sort of like change their own social dominance order through the way that they fund
00:34:31.880 the terrorist organizations that are in Palestine right now.
00:34:34.680 Yeah. It's become this really strange proxy thing. Let me just get back to this though,
00:34:37.880 because you're going on a really big tangent.
00:34:39.080 Let me get back to that. The point I was making there is before this, I mean,
00:34:42.280 what was this region? Because, you know, as I established, it was not a Palestinian state. It
00:34:46.280 was a, what was it called? A British mandate, right? And before the British mandate, it was
00:34:53.080 under the Ottoman Empire. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic State of Molochs.
00:34:57.880 Go on, I just need to get a Kleenex.
00:34:59.800 Before the Islamic State of the Molochs of Egypt, there was the Ayyub Arab Kurdish Empire. Before that,
00:35:06.040 there was the Yabed Empire. There was, before that, the Frankish Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem.
00:35:12.600 There was, before that, the Umayyad of Fatinid Empires. And then there was, before that, you had
00:35:19.160 the Byzantine Empire. Before that, you had the Sassanids. Before that, you had the Byzantines again.
00:35:26.120 Or some would argue that point, it might have been a separate state. Before that,
00:35:30.520 you had the Hasmoneans. Before that, you had the Seleucid Empire. Before that, you had
00:35:34.920 Alexander the Great. The big point here is you could go back to the Persians, the Babylonians, etc.
00:35:39.480 But there, there was never a meaningful Palestinian state for this sort of population. They were
00:35:46.840 always irrelevant in the wider power struggles. And now they are centered so long as a two-state
00:35:55.000 solution isn't achieved and the fighting doesn't stop. Like I said, they're delusional. But the,
00:36:00.120 the point of what happened here was they, the Palestinian activists basically said,
00:36:04.760 we need to boycott Kamala Harris, which is again, so stupid because she was going to be way more
00:36:12.520 pro-Palestine than Trump would be. And they were like, let's just force Trump to win because that's
00:36:17.480 going to be great. And then, but they, I loved his Riviera of the Middle East.
00:36:23.160 We're going to make the Gaza, the Riviera of the Middle East. Can't we though?
00:36:38.520 Golf courses stretching far and wide. Trump's dreamland by the seaside.
00:36:48.120 A five-star hotel where camels roam. With golden chandeliers in every home.
00:36:56.120 Peace talks on the 18th hole. Diplomacy with a golfing star.
00:37:06.520 Gaza's the new Riviera. Oh, what a sight. Gold towers shining day and night.
00:37:15.720 Golf courses stretching far and wide. Trump's dreamland by the seaside.
00:37:25.720 And naturally, a lot of black people on the left were like, hold on, this, this disrespects
00:37:33.240 the historic significance of the first black woman president. And it underplays black American
00:37:38.520 priorities. And suddenly they found this, this themselves in this position of like, wait,
00:37:43.080 I thought I'm, I'm a black leftist. Like, oh, she's a black woman. Is she at the top of the
00:37:50.440 priority? Yeah. Like, no, I, I, I meant the top of the priority. And then the Palestinians were like,
00:37:55.080 no, I'm at the, the, the top of it. So basically this, this pro Palestinian group, especially though,
00:38:01.720 a bunch of them did this, but the biggest one was called uncommitted movement, notably refused
00:38:06.520 to endorse Harris. It cited her unwillingness to change, to, to change military support for
00:38:10.760 Israel or clearly commit to more forceful pro Palestinian stances. And they, they, they argued
00:38:16.520 that supporting Harris amounted to complicity in Palestinian suffering. So many of the more radical
00:38:22.040 and younger followers posted stuff on social media saying that they weren't going to vote
00:38:27.000 for Kamala Harris, or they were going to vote for third party candidates. And then black activists
00:38:31.560 and voters who of course were, you know, critical of, of us policy in Gaza, because they're on the left.
00:38:40.120 They, they pushed back because they're like, wait, these are coercive attempts by pro
00:38:43.800 Palestinian movements to make Palestine the litmus test for voting. Sometimes they accuse
00:38:49.080 these activists ignoring or minimizing the unique historical struggles of black Americans, which
00:38:54.520 one are real, but two, it's sort of showing of like, well, hold on. I'm used to me being the priority
00:38:59.880 here. What's going on here. Um, and some, some got really frustrated about this.
00:39:04.520 Because we get a lot of people when they watch this and they'll be like, oh, you know, you're
00:39:09.160 overstating Arab views on black people and stuff like this. I literally played for you a clip of
00:39:14.440 Al Jazeera, like a mainstream Arab station with a mainstream Palestinian activist, literally saying
00:39:21.160 black lives don't matter. Yeah. You know, in the US, like when conservatives, when BLM was happening,
00:39:27.160 people were like, well, you know, all lives matter. When people are like black lives matter,
00:39:31.080 the response was no, all human lives matter in, in, in, in this region. It's no, they don't matter.
00:39:39.160 I'm sorry. They certainly don't matter as much as Palestinian lives.
00:39:42.280 Yeah. And it's interesting that in this online debate that, that really didn't come up. What
00:39:45.800 it was really more about was that just really high profile influencers on social media got into these
00:39:52.200 feuds where there were like Arab American and pro Palestinian people criticizing black Americans
00:39:57.880 for continuing to support Harris. Like, how dare you support Kamala Harris, Palestine, Palestine.
00:40:04.280 And then the prominent black influencers pushed back and they're like, you know, it's supporting
00:40:09.160 Harris isn't about ignoring Palestine, but we need to protect our own community safety and our hard
00:40:14.440 won progress at home. And Trump is going to take that all away. And it, it things like black voters
00:40:20.920 were accused of abandoning Palestinians and then pro Palestinian. And I think it's important to
00:40:26.280 remember, you know, we've got Palestinian friends. We've had Palestinians on the show,
00:40:29.400 Richard and Nadia. But the, the, there is not a single Arab majority country that is taking refugees
00:40:37.640 from Gaza right now. Like, like a large scale of refugees was, was, was out the plan of sending them
00:40:42.440 back and people need to ask like, why? Right. And it's because the people who have worked with this
00:40:47.400 community for longer understand the degree to which they are uncompromising and will hijack your
00:40:55.000 movement. And I think the left is beginning to maybe see that, but I don't know, right? Like, I, I
00:41:01.800 think that you will be surprised within leftist circles, how much they just completely taken over
00:41:06.920 by the pro Palestine stuff within a few years, if there isn't some sort of revolt against this.
00:41:12.440 Well, I don't care. I'm not trying to ditch you. I'm letting you know that I did not know you existed.
00:41:18.360 Yeah, I did. In recent days, American Palestinian content creators started an online attack against
00:41:24.200 the black community for their stance on domestic issues and for voting for Kamala Harris. Black
00:41:29.480 people also wear a uniform and get on a plane and come to our countries and kill us.
00:41:35.000 You vote that signed papers to kill us. I don't want to hear it anymore. What have you done
00:41:40.360 done to change your government? I don't think crying on your phone is an example.
00:41:45.320 What narrative are you pushing by showing black soldiers in the Middle East being told that we
00:41:50.360 should put our issues and lives and rights behind everybody else's, including Palestinians?
00:41:57.240 I don't want to hear y'all tell us to put ourselves last. I'm sick of it.
00:42:00.120 The way you all switched up 180 on Palestinians and people who are Palestinian activists,
00:42:06.200 the second we have a black woman, black woman run for office is disgusting.
00:42:11.320 Keep Palestinians names out of your mouth when you're trying to defend your decision for voting for
00:42:16.200 Kamala. I'm starting to see a lot of these videos coming out and I feel like someone really,
00:42:20.520 really has to speak on it. So I'm going to. The genocide in Congo has made eight millions of victims.
00:42:26.200 When he's saying Palestinians and he just doesn't listen.
00:42:31.480 This video coupled with all of the other Palestinians and their disrespectful and denigrating videos
00:42:36.440 towards people like me, I'm done. So the money that was coming out of my bank account every month
00:42:42.440 to help Palestinians over in Gaza, yeah, that's going to stop. And I'm going to redirect those funds
00:42:48.280 to help the people over in Congo. If I bring up like a black issue and someone's like, oh,
00:42:53.320 people of color, I said black, black, black, black, because other people of color don't even like us.
00:42:58.840 You guys keep bashing white people for slavery, but why don't we ever talk about the Arab slave
00:43:05.000 trade and keep in mind that the Arabs have enslaved more black people than the Europeans combined.
00:43:10.680 When it comes to the people who we are supposed to be defending over in Palestine,
00:43:16.040 guess what? Those same communities treat us with voracious racism. And you're asking us,
00:43:23.000 don't look at them. Don't look at our racism. Don't look at our past history and how we've treated your
00:43:28.600 communities. Help us, save us, be there for us. But guess what? When we need you guys,
00:43:34.760 no one's standing up for us. When we have gone through this oppression for the past 400 years,
00:43:40.040 years, why didn't any of you come racing on boats to come and help and save us?
00:43:45.960 Yeah. Yeah. I just, it's not just about blacks versus pro-Palestine people in America. It's also
00:43:55.560 about black versus Latino and Hispanic leftist groups because you have black and Latino activists
00:44:02.840 disagreeing around criminal justice reform and immigration with some black activists feeling like
00:44:08.760 progressive activists focus on immigration reform and the needs of undocumented, undocumented
00:44:16.120 immigrants is, is overshadowing the, the push for police accountability when it comes to anti-black
00:44:22.280 discrimination. And then Latino organizers are arguing that the struggles for citizenship that
00:44:27.400 many Latinos go through doesn't receive enough attention compared to criminal justice issues. And then,
00:44:32.440 of course, you have the LGBTQ plus movement clashing with racial justice movements where, you know,
00:44:39.080 they, they don't like where funding is going over legislation focus is going. And then there's,
00:44:44.840 of course, the, the Asian American concerns over affirmative action, right? Where their, their concerns
00:44:50.120 about stereotyping and model minority narratives are used to minimize and, and pit them against black and
00:44:55.400 Latino communities, which, which causes a lot of trouble.
00:44:58.440 What we're getting to see is progresses. And there's been some very interesting conversation
00:45:02.280 about this recently in sort of the intellectual spheres for a long time. They're sort of motivated
00:45:05.960 by this idea that economic concerns, we're going to be able to use that to, to create sort of this
00:45:12.280 revolutionary class of human. That's going to want to completely transform society. And that just,
00:45:19.080 every time it did manifest that way, they, they ended up with like mass murder and everything like
00:45:22.600 that. And if you look at like poor Americans, for example, they're much more likely to vote right-wing,
00:45:26.840 right? So that clearly didn't go their way. Like, as I point out, like the, the, the far left these
00:45:31.960 days looks like they're literally dressed up like they're from the capital from the hunger games.
00:45:36.760 So it didn't work. So how do you get your foot soldiers? Well, you go to every group that you can
00:45:43.560 convince to have sort of intra group solidarity and see society as attacking them and try to build a
00:45:50.040 narrative where you exist to protect them. But the problem is, is that it's sort of come due
00:45:57.080 and they haven't actually helped any of those groups. The statistic that I would like to point
00:46:01.000 out. It was, it was all a lie. They came to them and they were like, you are the chosen one. You get
00:46:07.400 special treatment. And they were love bombed. It's very culty, right? Like, oh, we're going to...
00:46:11.000 If you look at income differences between blacks and Hispanics and whites in various regions of the
00:46:15.000 U.S., they are smaller in more Republican districts, bigger in more Democratic districts.
00:46:19.480 Like, it, it, it, they did not deliver. You know, we've pointed out that in the last 10 years,
00:46:25.400 there have been more anti-black hate crime killings than there have been more documented
00:46:31.400 in the 1950s. You know, it is, it is not awesome. They, they, they did not deliver. You look at the
00:46:36.360 rise in white income since the 1950s versus the rise in black income. It's like staggeringly different.
00:46:41.960 They, they did not deliver. They do not care. It is time for people to understand that nobody's
00:46:48.520 going to care about your interests if you're seen as a monolithic voting block, which is in part,
00:46:52.280 I think why progressives have done so little towards black interests recently when contrasted
00:46:57.000 with like other groups, because they're like the, the Palestinians actually didn't vote. If you look
00:47:01.640 in the United States, there was a huge swing. I think in, in many regions, the Arab vote actually
00:47:05.960 went to Trump. Um, and the left like freaked out about this. They were very confused by this.
00:47:13.240 And, and, and that's why people are listening to them now. So they did actually, I also wanted to
00:47:19.720 talk about the LGBTQ shift we've seen recently. So the, there was a movement that crystallized
00:47:24.200 September 20th, 2025 with the launch of LGB International, a new global coalition, which issued a quote,
00:47:30.200 declaration of independence, explicitly cutting ties with trans non-binary queer intersex and TQI plus
00:47:36.760 element of the LGBTQ plus umbrella. The group's manifesto widely shared on X features spokespeople
00:47:43.160 from multiple countries stating LGBT rights, focus on same sex attraction and biological sex
00:47:48.200 are being eroded by an over-intensis on gender identity and legacy organizations. And I think that like
00:47:54.600 they're in 18 countries with 17 plus organizations, and they've gotten a lot of online buzz for this and
00:47:59.880 been covered by a lot of media, you know, like Yahoo news and the telegraph, but the mainstream orgs
00:48:04.840 that still have all the money are, are still a little pissed that this is happening. But I think that
00:48:08.520 we're seeing this in the background that, that people are understanding that this alliance isn't
00:48:13.880 working anymore. Yeah. And that a new alliance is going to need to be had on the left. And I think that
00:48:21.640 the alliance historically was gone into very willfully blindly, like this group thinks gays need to be,
00:48:31.400 you know, if you look at the laws in Gaza, for example, it's, it's a 10 year prison sentence for
00:48:36.200 being gay. Right. Like 10 years. Yeah. 10 years. But then like, after you're out, you're still gay.
00:48:42.440 So do you get another 10 years? Well, no, you're not allowed to be gay. Like,
00:48:46.440 you're not allowed to identify that. That doesn't exist in their country. Right. Like they're the
00:48:50.680 crime isn't being gay. It's just identifying as it. And then every time you identify, you get another
00:48:56.520 10 years. Well, so within Muslim law, it's actually having sex with men. Okay. If you look at Sharia law,
00:49:03.160 you need to have four people attest to it. So within normal Sharia law, it is rare for gay to be killed,
00:49:07.960 but like hypothetically they're, they're supposed to be. And so they often are, you know, local
00:49:13.560 justice and stuff like this. The idea that like, well, because it's not technically Sharia law and
00:49:18.120 you didn't have four people see it at the time. Four people are like, yeah, I'm pretty sure you're
00:49:22.200 going to get murdered. And, and we see this across the Islamic world. Like, I'm not like making something
00:49:27.080 up. It's like, everybody knows that this is the thing that happens. And I think they, they went into
00:49:33.080 it being like, well, we'll just pretend that this group, if it ends up proliferating within
00:49:38.600 our communities, puts us at existential risk because of vibes, like it would be cool if they
00:49:44.920 didn't or something. I mean, I think that they're just so interested in tearing down the West right
00:49:49.480 now that there is, and, and so certain that their faction is going to dominate after the West falls,
00:49:55.560 that there is a willing blindness to that. And the other thing I'm trying to, to, to highlight here
00:50:01.000 is, and no, there's a lot of Muslims in Africa. So I'm not talking like Islam is not inherently
00:50:06.520 anti-African, but I will note that there is going to be much more ability if you're talking
00:50:12.360 about Arab Muslims in terms of building coalitions with African communities than I think many American,
00:50:19.400 African and, and European African organizers are aware of or fully grown, which is going to cause issues.
00:50:29.160 Well, this just changed the way I looked at the left. Cause I, I don't know. I thought that
00:50:36.920 the intersectional subgroups of the progressive movement bought into intersectionality and I didn't
00:50:43.000 realize that they would kind of bulk when asked to bow down to the priorities of the, the, the subgroup
00:50:53.000 du jour. So very interesting stuff. I'm glad you decided to do this episode. Cause one, I just
00:50:58.600 totally thought Greta Thunberg had dropped the flotilla thing. She hasn't. That's crazy.
00:51:04.440 There's better things to do. She just lives on a yacht these days. Greta.
00:51:07.800 They're not, they're not in these boats. I don't know. Like boats are so freaking expensive.
00:51:13.000 They're just money holes, but also like it's not, it's not glamorous.
00:51:20.120 No, I've, I've lived on boats before. It is not fun. Even, even if they're fairly nice yacht.
00:51:24.280 Yeah. Even if they're very expensive, nice yachts, it's not nice.
00:51:28.280 Like I just imagine her miserable life living with a bunch of like Islamists like activists and, and,
00:51:34.120 and having to, I'm sure they have fun, but I just, I don't know. I mean, I don't know how much they're
00:51:39.960 going to care when she starts bringing up her environmentalist rhetoric or her, you know,
00:51:44.440 like how this is all really about the environment and beating colonialism is about the, I don't
00:51:50.120 understand what that's about. Like that seems like, so like delusional schizo posting when
00:51:56.200 people are like, Oh, fighting colonialism is like pro it's like, bro. But the colonialist power,
00:52:01.160 the power is you deem as colonialists are the ones that do the most to fight global warming,
00:52:05.720 right? Like presumably you want them to have more colonial power, right?
00:52:10.520 Well, I mean, we call it, we call the progress pride flag. Thanks to whoever it was who follows
00:52:15.160 this podcast. You called it that.
00:52:16.280 You called it the colonizer's flag. No, no, no, I agree, but I mean, even if they don't buy into
00:52:20.680 that, how can Greta Thornburg say colonialism is the problem when the colonizer regions are the ones
00:52:27.960 that are the most green and if they still had their colonies, presumably they would make them
00:52:33.880 green as well. It's not supposed to make sense, but here's what does make sense. I love you. You're
00:52:40.600 great. I love you too. And have a spectacular day, Simone. And two AIs going over this or whatever.
00:52:49.560 Just watch it because you're going to be like, well, you know, he's overly generalizing. I'm not
00:52:53.400 overly generalizing. I'm talking about cultural trends and regions have a right to be culturally
00:52:59.160 different when you deny that you are dehumanizing those regions. And the thing I want to note about
00:53:04.280 all of this, especially like the Gaza thing that always gets me and everything like that
00:53:08.040 is these views that like normal Muslims have, and I think they're entitled to their views
00:53:13.240 are generally to the right culturally of the very views that got Charlie Kirk shot,
00:53:21.080 right? And, and they will cheer him being shot and then freak out about people dying in Gaza
00:53:26.440 who hold the exact same views, but like five times more extreme. I don't like the deluleness.
00:53:34.200 And as you've pointed out, the core reason is, is they don't see these people as human.
00:53:37.720 They do not believe that they are responsible for their beliefs, but Christians are. That's,
00:53:41.880 that's basically the gist of it. And, and that's why I think they see them like,
00:53:45.720 like animals that they are going to, or, or like savages, which they're going to civilize,
00:53:50.040 which has long been this, this sort of uneducated colon, colonizers. People always saw the regions
00:53:58.040 they were colonizing. Yeah. But so it goes. Love you. Love you too. All right. I sent you
00:54:04.440 the other link already. So I just hop over there. When I called and they were like,
00:54:08.200 what appointment? And then, then he called me back and this is for her C-section,
00:54:11.880 by the way, that's happening in like three days. Yeah. That, yeah. I mean, getting the surgeon that
00:54:20.760 I have booked was like impossible. And then I thought that they actually didn't have it booked
00:54:27.320 and that I wouldn't have her. I was so scared, Malcolm. That would be so bad. You don't understand.
00:54:35.400 You don't understand. Oh God. I still can't believe what you said about cashews. Well, I mean,
00:54:44.520 what I learned about cashews. I love it. She had no idea. They come in these giant fruits that are
00:54:51.240 like the size of an apple. And I was like, and they're poisonous. And they have to go through all
00:54:54.840 this, this processing. She just had no idea. And I, she's like, they're so expensive. Why are they
00:54:59.160 so expensive? And I was like, why aren't they more expensive? The labor that has to go into them.
00:55:11.240 I mean, I guess we're, we're also discounting the cost of a bunch of other things, which you're
00:55:18.760 discounting to produce, but because they're heavier, they have a lot of water in them. The
00:55:23.960 shipping costs so much. So I didn't expect me making sure that my hospital admission was
00:55:31.560 queued up would end up being this huge delay.
00:55:37.160 See this camera so much better. Someone was saying, by the way, they're like,
00:55:39.880 well, can't you just invest in like 1080p cameras and we have 4k cameras, but I think yours is just
00:55:48.360 not coming through 4k. Can you check your camera settings?
00:55:51.000 It seems like it's coming through great right now. Is it coming through fuzzy on your end?
00:55:54.440 I think other people think your camera... No, my camera in some days has been coming
00:55:58.840 through bad. I'm saying today, right now, is it coming through bad to you?
00:56:02.920 Today it looks okay. Yeah. I don't know why sometimes it looks good and sometimes it looks
00:56:07.640 bad. We have invested like a lot in good cameras. Yeah. And everyone's like, why are you shooting using
00:56:13.000 a potato? And it's like, I don't know. Like expensive cameras are weird because sometimes
00:56:20.040 they just shoot potato quality for no reason that I understand. And I will try to use the podcast,
00:56:26.760 you know, normal ones. I try to use the professional stuff. It's not better. I can pay literally like
00:56:33.080 once I go over a hundred dollars for a camera, it seems no matter how much I pay, I get the exact,
00:56:38.280 it's completely random quality. I can pay $300 and get terrible quality. Yeah. So like we're trying
00:56:43.720 here, people. I just am not good with sound and video effects. That's not my expertise. Although I
00:56:51.000 do edit all of our videos. So, you know, but that's was the help of AI. So, you know, God bless AI. All right,
00:56:57.960 let's do it. Poop, Octavian. You need to make a poo shape. Like a poo energy, like this. Okay,
00:57:07.080 tell me about what you're working on, Octavian. Yeah, what are you doing, buddy? I'm making this
00:57:10.440 concrete. Let me show you something. Oh, wow. It looks like this. It looks like this. It's like the poop.
00:57:16.920 Yeah, it looks like a poop. Let's make a big turd. Ready? Circle. Circle. Circle. How did it turn that color?
00:57:24.360 Circle. Oh, well, because we mixed them together. Cut. Oh, did you know it would turn this color?
00:57:30.920 Yeah, sure. It did, huh? Did Mommy tell you not to mix them all together?
00:57:36.920 One egg dinner. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
00:57:40.920 It's so poop. Whoa. It's so face poop.
00:57:45.560 Titan, I don't think you eat that. No, no, no.
00:57:47.880 It's so slimey. It's sticky. It's like it's gonna cut. Whoa, look at the watermelon slice in there.
00:57:55.080 Oh, you cut it. You made it big and you blew the scissors. Wait. What is this? Oh, I did that.
00:58:00.120 Thank God they didn't stick with the scissors.
00:58:02.760 Ouch. Not for a second there.
00:58:08.760 What do you think, Octavian? What are you making now?
00:58:10.920 It looks pretty good. It looks pretty good.
00:58:14.440 Thanks.
00:58:30.120 You're coming.
00:58:35.400 You're coming.