Based Camp - Should Canada Be Allowed to Kill Homeless People If They Are Sad？

00:00:00.000 Well, Carl Hill thinks I should put my cat to sleep,

00:00:02.640 but I don't know how to talk to Laura about it.

00:00:04.200 Oh, Mr. Republican conservative tightass here

00:00:07.780 suddenly believes in assisted death. 0.68

00:00:09.840 If you think it's humane to put an old and sick cat to sleep,

00:00:12.760 then why is it illegal to do it for humans?

00:00:15.320 Yeah, how come, Carl?

00:00:17.600 Because only human beings have a soul, Mr. President.

00:00:20.880 Because only human beings have a soul, Larry.

00:00:24.660 Not according to a Hindu. 0.85

00:00:26.440 What's a Hindu? 0.98

00:00:27.400 Lays eggs.

00:00:27.980 Look, George?

00:00:30.260 You need to take a cold, hard look at your stance on youth in Asia.

00:00:34.820 Oh, I don't care about them.

00:00:36.960 They're conformists and they're communists.

00:00:38.940 Who?

00:00:39.480 The youth in Asia. 0.99

00:00:42.540 Come on, you know, Chinese, Japanese, dirty knees, look at these. 1.00

00:00:47.860 Hello, Simone. 0.92

00:00:49.360 Today we are going to be talking about assisted unaliving in Canada.

00:00:54.420 And our take on this,

00:00:56.860 it may be exactly what people think it's going to be,

00:00:58.980 but it might also really surprise people

00:01:01.420 if they think it's going to be the standard conservative reactionary take.

00:01:05.100 It's definitely not on that because I've seen a lot of, you know, activists go out there.

00:01:10.960 For people to understand just how much assisted unaliving is being used in Canada right now,

00:01:17.940 there's a program that they call MADE.

00:01:19.600 And in Quebec right now, it made up 7.2% of all deaths this last year.

00:01:25.460 So about 1 in 14 deaths.

00:01:28.720 And right now in 2023, there were 15,343 MAID provisions reported across Canada.

00:01:38.480 This accounts for 4.7% of all deaths in Canada or roughly 1 in 20 deaths.

00:01:45.340 So it's really bad in some districts, like, you know, in the French district where they have no reason to live anyway.

00:01:50.200 I mean, is really bad the right term or is it just very popular in some districts?

00:01:55.300 Well, this is where Ubisoft is based, so I can understand why with Assassin's Creed shadows being out there right now.

00:02:02.900 It's better to just end it, yeah.

00:02:05.040 If I was on that team, if I was on that team and I saw this product I'd made, 0.59

00:02:09.260 I'd just be like, can we edit out the Black guy that we had killing tons of people in Japan? 1.00

00:02:16.260 Like, it seems racist, right?

00:02:18.280 You know, I thought we were doing an anti-racist thing.

00:02:20.900 When he fights, there is a hip-hop soundtrack only for him.

00:02:23.860 Greed cannot rule this village.

00:02:29.920 Not while I have breath in my lungs and a blade in my head. 1.00

00:02:34.500 I said kill him! 1.00

00:02:40.940 Brought to you by... 1.00

00:02:43.640 You get in a car with them, they turn on the hip-hop channel, and then they look at you.

00:02:50.900 This one's for you.

00:02:52.080 Who do you think you are?

00:02:53.860 Oh my god, bro.

00:02:58.040 But anyway, anyway, the statistics get crazier, okay?

00:03:01.960 But we're going to go over the My Favorite Made instance here.

00:03:05.380 It's one you may have heard before, but I had never heard the full story.

00:03:08.320 Okay.

00:03:08.720 So, Christine Gothier, a 54-year-old Canadian Army veteran and former Paralympian who completed in the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Paralympics and Invictus Games.

00:03:21.800 So, a very, you know, I can make this work person.

00:03:26.740 Yeah.

00:03:27.340 Did you know that people who use wheelchairs also play basketball?

00:03:31.900 I want you to meet some of my friends on the New York Rolling Fury.

00:03:36.020 Check out some of the action.

00:03:37.200 I see it gets really intense during practice and games.

00:03:47.200 So, have you ever thought about killing yourself?

00:03:49.820 Because life's not supposed to be hard. 0.79

00:03:52.260 Not even a little.

00:03:53.420 People who aren't disabled, their lives are super easy.

00:03:55.700 It's just you.

00:03:56.580 Just you who has a hard life.

00:03:57.640 She lives with a muscular skeletal disorder affecting her back, legs, and hips, resulting from a training accident in 1989 that caused permanent damage to her knees and spine.

00:04:08.600 So, in 2022, so keep in mind, this was only six years after completing the Paralympic Games.

00:04:15.980 Okay.

00:04:16.840 Very healthy, successful person.

00:04:19.420 Yeah, very healthy, successful person.

00:04:21.720 She testified before the House of Commons.

00:04:24.080 Oh, so this had already happened before that.

00:04:26.000 Committee that a Veterans Affair, so a VAC employee, had offered her medical assistance in dying.

00:04:33.940 Key points include that Gauthier had been trying to get a wheelchair ramp installed in her home for five years.

00:04:40.460 During a phone call with a VAC caseworker, where Gauthier was described being her deteriorating condition, the employee allegedly had mentioned that she had the quote-unquote right to die.

00:04:52.940 Gauthier claims she received a letter from VAC offering MAID, stating, quote,

00:04:58.560 If you are so desperate, madame, we can offer you MAID, medical assistance in dying, end quote.

00:05:04.800 You piss off a Canadian bureaucrat, they will send you the full unaliving kit.

00:05:09.820 The offer reportedly included providing the necessary equipment for MAID.

00:05:15.040 Oh, that's nice.

00:05:15.940 Simone, they didn't just send her, like, a, this is how you apply for it.

00:05:20.740 They sent an effing kit to her house. 0.93

00:05:24.220 Yeah.

00:05:24.520 Because she complained about how long it was taking to get her wheelchair thing installed. 1.00

00:05:29.200 That's amazing.

00:05:29.840 Wouldn't it be just hilarious if the kit was just a gun in a box?

00:05:34.180 No, I don't.

00:05:34.860 I want it to be a hammer in a box.

00:05:36.400 A hammer?

00:05:36.960 Oh, my God.

00:05:38.080 Like in the Team America. 0.99

00:05:39.180 Gary, well, you'll probably want to take your own life.

00:05:44.420 Here, you'd better have this. 0.77

00:05:52.220 All right, team, that's it.

00:05:54.800 That is how my world handles MAID. 1.00

00:05:57.860 But as we go further with this, one thing that we need to be very realistic of,

00:06:01.080 I mean, as much as you have a visceral reaction against all of this,

00:06:03.840 realistically, governments are not going to be able to keep the elderly alive

00:06:08.820 if the demographic pyramid continues in the direction it's going right now.

00:06:12.000 Yeah, the demand will outstrip the supply in terms of taxpayer base to cover the cost

00:06:18.500 and people to execute the services.

00:06:21.480 So people will be looking at months, if not years, in wait time for basic services.

00:06:27.700 And governments will not be able to do anything about it.

00:06:30.560 Well, I mean, we'll reach a point where you'll have two, three elderly people 1.00

00:06:34.120 for every one taxpayer.

00:06:35.800 Yeah.

00:06:36.180 And there's a point where you need to go Logan's Run or Soylent Green on society.

00:06:42.300 I just mean this from a practicality standpoint.

00:06:44.800 The amount of, and people can be like, well, that's humans who are dying.

00:06:48.360 And it's like, humans are going to be dying either way in this scenario.

00:06:51.860 There are going to be inhumane elderly care facilities

00:06:56.000 with people who don't really care about the elderly,

00:06:58.360 as we already see in elderly care facilities that are really horrible environments.

00:07:02.880 But imagine, you know, when you have many more elderly person per staffer 0.98

00:07:08.260 and there's even less oversight because these elderly people don't have families

00:07:12.260 because they never took the time to make them.

00:07:14.200 So nobody cares if they're being abused.

00:07:16.100 Nobody cares what's happening to them.

00:07:18.640 And so we need to, you know, weigh both sides of this

00:07:20.900 with the understanding that this is the future that we're heading into.

00:07:23.520 Also note at the end of this, we're going to go over the biblical stuff on suicide

00:07:29.500 to cut to the chase on that.

00:07:32.220 The Bible is, seems very clearly not against suicide, to be honest.

00:07:38.940 Oh, really? That surprises me.

00:07:41.840 Specifically what we'll find is there's a number of specific mentions of suicide in the Bible

00:07:45.860 and nowhere is it condemned.

00:07:47.100 So we said, whoa, I thought this was like a really big thing

00:07:50.560 that suicide was super, super, super not okay.

00:07:52.520 This is one of the things that Catholics made up, but we'll get into this. 1.00

00:07:55.900 Okay.

00:07:57.560 Now, to go into made specifically,

00:08:00.640 where I think I start to not be as freaked out by it,

00:08:04.400 and then we'll get to some reasons why I am freaked out by it,

00:08:06.780 is when I go into the demographics of who's actually doing this.

00:08:09.240 You know, you'll hear about specific instances

00:08:10.940 of some, you know, young person who was talked into it

00:08:15.700 because they had a depressive episode.

00:08:17.520 But the reality is when I actually look at these,

00:08:19.940 it's parents who had estranged themselves from their kids.

00:08:22.940 Their kids wanted to end their lives.

00:08:25.820 The kids were probably going to do this anyway.

00:08:28.100 And they found this program and were like,

00:08:30.220 sure, I'll do it through this.

00:08:31.060 And then the parents freak out.

00:08:32.040 Like, how could you talk my kids into this, everything like this?

00:08:34.020 And it's like, you haven't talked to your kids in like seven years

00:08:37.280 and your kid is like 22.

00:08:39.680 Like, what do you mean how you abandoned them?

00:08:43.880 That's how it ended here.

00:08:46.080 You know, yeah, it's not the greatest thing

00:08:48.140 that the state is doing this, right?

00:08:50.320 But at the end of the day, is this different from,

00:08:53.060 you know, from my perspective?

00:08:55.260 Yeah, I just, and a lot of the people who you see on this,

00:08:57.900 and we'll actually get to the statistics on this,

00:09:00.140 the people who are against made are like,

00:09:01.440 can you believe made it so horrible?

00:09:03.600 Like the vast majority of people using it

00:09:05.100 are on state services.

00:09:06.060 The government is using it to cut costs.

00:09:08.640 And here I am like, well, I mean, you know.

00:09:11.640 It makes sense.

00:09:12.980 I mean, also, it, and I think this shows up in the numbers.

00:09:17.600 A bunch of like productive people.

00:09:20.040 Well, yeah, but also it seems like a huge portion

00:09:22.180 of the people who are using made

00:09:25.680 would otherwise be on palliative care.

00:09:27.820 They are terminally ill.

00:09:28.920 They are dying.

00:09:29.940 And they're choosing to die with dignity.

00:09:31.820 That's my understanding.

00:09:33.020 It's like, okay, there are obviously these.

00:09:34.680 Yeah, and that's what we'll get to here is,

00:09:36.660 is there's this idea of, okay,

00:09:39.280 made is like young people and the government's 0.99

00:09:42.280 tricking them into it, but that's just not true.

00:09:44.380 The median age of made recipients is 77.6 years old.

00:09:47.920 Yeah, that's, that is around the time

00:09:49.880 when people get terminally ill.

00:09:51.260 Median age.

00:09:52.380 Yeah.

00:09:52.640 96% of, now, now here's, here's potentially to the other side.

00:09:58.600 Okay.

00:09:58.780 96% of made recipients are Caucasian.

00:10:02.140 So isn't Canada a very white place? 0.61

00:10:04.960 Not at all.

00:10:06.380 96% seems right.

00:10:07.940 It's only 69.8% white.

00:10:10.920 What's the rest of Canada?

00:10:12.180 I'm guessing like Muslim and Indian and black, like.

00:10:17.320 Well, maybe there are cultural barriers 0.92

00:10:19.300 to choosing assisted dying when you are not white.

00:10:23.240 But I mean, it would probably, 0.94

00:10:24.240 it would obviously look a lot worse 0.97

00:10:25.880 if it was mostly non-white people

00:10:28.140 or not in proportion with the population

00:10:29.940 that we're using the services.

00:10:31.820 So almost better that it's mostly white people. 0.99

00:10:34.540 And then we're not, you know,

00:10:36.380 no one's claiming genocide.

00:10:38.660 No one's claiming some kind of racially biased.

00:10:41.080 Well, and keep in mind, these aren't,

00:10:43.240 if I'm going to be,

00:10:44.560 hmm, what's the way I can say this

00:10:46.340 that can't be pull quoted on me easily?

00:10:48.320 Yeah.

00:10:50.400 I just, you know, really want my kids

00:10:53.600 to be growing up in a world

00:10:56.120 where their community is fit.

00:10:59.220 And I mean that in terms of the way

00:11:01.180 genes can correlate with sociological profiles

00:11:03.960 and tendencies.

00:11:05.200 And I don't mind where fitness pressure

00:11:08.040 is being applied.

00:11:08.920 Now, if you want to go more

00:11:11.580 into the statistics here,

00:11:12.560 this might change your perception again.

00:11:14.580 Cancer was the most frequently cited

00:11:16.260 medical condition accounting

00:11:17.520 for 64% of cases.

00:11:19.560 That makes sense.

00:11:21.020 96% of cases involved individuals

00:11:23.220 whose natural death was deemed

00:11:24.780 reasonably foreseeable.

00:11:26.640 Now, I note here

00:11:28.240 that it is very easy to get on me.

00:11:30.480 There are doctors who will go around

00:11:31.860 and they basically just ask people like,

00:11:34.120 oh, you're schedule one.

00:11:35.800 That basically means

00:11:36.340 you just want to end your life

00:11:37.600 because you can get on schedule one

00:11:39.100 for anything.

00:11:39.780 Like saying I'm sad,

00:11:40.720 we'll get you on it.

00:11:41.320 Saying I have trouble controlling my emotions,

00:11:42.940 we'll get you on it.

00:11:43.800 Well, one of them went in

00:11:45.060 on the trigonometry show

00:11:46.340 was saying that all you have to do

00:11:47.760 is stop eating for 24 hours

00:11:49.420 and then you can get on the list.

00:11:50.780 So there are hats.

00:11:51.500 Yeah, you can get on schedule two,

00:11:53.040 which allows you to unalive yourself

00:11:54.680 within a day.

00:11:56.160 That's, yeah.

00:11:56.960 So I mean, like, clearly

00:11:57.900 this can be abused

00:11:59.260 or if someone manipulates it.

00:12:00.560 Clearly can be abused

00:12:01.480 and we'll get to instances

00:12:02.280 in which it has been abused.

00:12:04.380 But I will say here

00:12:05.820 that, again,

00:12:06.700 we need to like realistically understand

00:12:08.720 that eventually society

00:12:09.780 is going to reach this point.

00:12:11.900 And I think we can look at MAID

00:12:13.240 to see where this system is failing

00:12:14.680 while also understanding that,

00:12:16.940 you know,

00:12:17.300 Logan's Run, Soylent Green,

00:12:18.700 that's the future

00:12:19.500 if we can't figure out fertility rate. 0.85

00:12:21.400 We, obviously,

00:12:22.300 you and I are trying

00:12:23.020 to figure out fertility rate,

00:12:24.600 but I don't see a realistic scenario

00:12:26.340 in which we solve it before,

00:12:27.920 at least within some countries,

00:12:29.460 this becomes the only realistic option

00:12:32.220 to lower the number of people dying.

00:12:35.540 And keep in mind here,

00:12:36.380 I mean this in a strict sense,

00:12:38.200 lower the number of people dying.

00:12:41.240 Because you can't just save everyone.

00:12:42.780 That's like progressive nonsense.

00:12:45.480 Where they're like, 0.76

00:12:46.180 oh, we're just going to save everyone.

00:12:47.620 It's like, well, you know,

00:12:48.300 some people may not have the same value

00:12:50.200 to society as other people.

00:12:52.400 I'm sorry.

00:12:53.560 Well, but also,

00:12:54.320 you just can't save everyone.

00:12:56.080 And that's the problem.

00:12:57.260 Being like,

00:12:58.000 we're just going to save everyone

00:12:59.080 means that now

00:13:00.680 a lot of people

00:13:01.700 are going to be left in the lurch

00:13:03.840 with absolutely zero support whatsoever.

00:13:07.340 You know,

00:13:07.520 and so either there could be

00:13:08.420 some support,

00:13:09.340 some recourse,

00:13:10.180 some option that isn't terrible,

00:13:11.560 or there can be nothing.

00:13:15.020 And I think a lot of these people

00:13:16.200 are in situations

00:13:17.380 where either their death

00:13:18.580 would have been very protracted,

00:13:19.900 very painful,

00:13:20.660 very lonely,

00:13:21.980 very expensive.

00:13:22.840 And absolutely miserable.

00:13:24.200 Well, yeah,

00:13:24.840 and expensive to the state.

00:13:26.640 Absolutely.

00:13:27.020 That's like the big thing

00:13:28.940 of the big debate

00:13:30.280 or theme of palliative care

00:13:32.520 is basically

00:13:33.320 there's this very adverse incentive,

00:13:35.500 both economically

00:13:36.740 and ethically

00:13:37.940 with doctors

00:13:38.820 where hospitals

00:13:40.040 are incentivized

00:13:40.860 to just give

00:13:42.080 as many expensive procedures

00:13:43.180 as possible.

00:13:44.060 And also doctors

00:13:45.040 have like sort of sworn

00:13:45.940 to never do harm.

00:13:48.120 Between these two things,

00:13:49.320 basically,

00:13:49.720 even if someone's dying,

00:13:50.760 even if it's almost certain

00:13:52.040 that some procedure

00:13:53.060 to treat someone's cancer

00:13:54.520 is not going to do anything

00:13:56.160 to help cure them.

00:13:57.620 In fact,

00:13:58.100 it may isolate them

00:13:58.760 from their families

00:13:59.380 and make them deeply uncomfortable

00:14:00.480 for the final days

00:14:01.300 they have left.

00:14:02.560 Doctors and hospitals

00:14:03.440 are still going to say,

00:14:04.600 we recommend this procedure.

00:14:07.280 And if you don't take it,

00:14:08.160 you're going to have to sign

00:14:08.720 a billion forms

00:14:09.440 and talk about how 0.99

00:14:10.200 you're a terrible person 1.00

00:14:11.220 and you're letting yourself die. 1.00

00:14:12.780 And, you know,

00:14:13.660 we're going to make life

00:14:14.380 difficult for you.

00:14:15.320 And that happens,

00:14:16.560 especially in the United States.

00:14:17.720 I'm sure it happens

00:14:18.520 everywhere, though.

00:14:19.140 And that's what's so great

00:14:21.460 about this is that like,

00:14:23.420 I mean,

00:14:23.860 what palliative care

00:14:25.240 had originally posed

00:14:26.540 is, okay,

00:14:27.480 well, maybe just instead of

00:14:28.920 like actively going

00:14:32.640 through the MAID program

00:14:33.600 and having you

00:14:34.660 terminate your life

00:14:35.740 on your own terms, 0.99

00:14:37.400 just don't treat you.

00:14:39.120 That was what was revolutionary.

00:14:40.560 What if we just let you

00:14:41.340 live comfortably in your home

00:14:42.360 and manage your pain?

00:14:43.580 And this takes it a step further.

00:14:45.400 And honestly,

00:14:45.860 it's a lot more comfortable.

00:14:46.760 And it's something that my mom,

00:14:47.760 when she was passing away

00:14:48.660 from ovarian cancer,

00:14:50.440 really wanted.

00:14:51.480 And the options available

00:14:53.260 to her for euthanasia,

00:14:55.680 which she did eventually

00:14:56.680 get legally approved,

00:14:57.700 were so untenable

00:14:58.680 that by the time

00:14:59.320 she did get all the pills

00:15:00.380 that she needed to take

00:15:01.260 like self-administer at home

00:15:02.900 in order to euthanize herself. 1.00

00:15:04.900 And she couldn't keep them down.

00:15:06.300 Well, she couldn't even eat.

00:15:07.720 Her throat had closed up

00:15:08.660 from the cancer.

00:15:09.820 So how was she?

00:15:11.200 She couldn't swallow one pill,

00:15:12.600 let alone a whole bottle of pills

00:15:14.320 in fast succession.

00:15:15.180 So, yeah, I just,

00:15:17.280 I think this is great.

00:15:18.660 The only concern I had

00:15:19.720 is in this trigonometry

00:15:21.040 interview

00:15:23.260 that this one

00:15:24.060 huge anti-maid advocate had. 0.99

00:15:27.180 She talked about how

00:15:28.280 the meditations-

00:15:28.600 Because she was depressed

00:15:29.500 at one point

00:15:30.020 and wanted to kill herself.

00:15:31.040 And that's like her core argument.

00:15:32.120 And I'm like, well-

00:15:33.080 Yeah, it seems a lot of this,

00:15:34.400 yeah, I mean,

00:15:34.740 she's aware of some abuses

00:15:36.080 of the system

00:15:36.700 and those are entirely legitimate

00:15:38.060 and it's worth having

00:15:38.740 a conversation about them.

00:15:39.340 And we're going to talk about those.

00:15:40.800 She also seems to just have

00:15:41.800 a personal vendetta

00:15:42.600 against the program

00:15:43.280 because they keep being like,

00:15:44.120 well, lady, 1.00

00:15:44.620 why don't you just kill yourself? 1.00

00:15:45.640 And it makes her really mad. 1.00

00:15:47.420 But one of the things

00:15:48.660 that she brought up

00:15:49.260 that made me actually pause

00:15:51.000 was that she said

00:15:52.680 that the combination

00:15:55.100 of medications

00:15:55.760 that were being given

00:15:56.540 to people

00:15:56.960 caused pulmonary edema

00:15:58.320 and that they were essentially

00:15:59.740 drowning in their own bodies.

00:16:01.480 So she's telling the truth

00:16:02.500 but lying at the same time.

00:16:03.960 So here's what she's leaving out.

00:16:05.400 I looked into this, Simone.

00:16:06.700 I did too.

00:16:07.460 And I'm curious to say.

00:16:08.520 People are completely unconscious

00:16:10.580 when this happens.

00:16:11.840 Yeah.

00:16:12.100 It is true that it is happening

00:16:13.780 but they are also

00:16:14.560 completely unconscious

00:16:15.720 like anyone

00:16:16.660 when they're in a knocked out state.

00:16:18.480 Yeah.

00:16:18.820 I had asked if like

00:16:19.920 the propofol that causes

00:16:21.080 the deep coma

00:16:21.920 that is given to people

00:16:23.020 after the mint lazulam

00:16:26.100 which is a really,

00:16:26.920 really big calming

00:16:27.720 and like anxiety reducing sedative.

00:16:29.780 Like if after both those things

00:16:31.580 people have any shot

00:16:32.900 of maybe experiencing these things.

00:16:34.860 Because I mean,

00:16:35.560 when I hear deep coma,

00:16:36.660 I still think of like

00:16:37.380 all these movies

00:16:37.960 where like people are super.

00:16:39.340 No, no, no, no.

00:16:39.980 They are out, out.

00:16:41.020 Yeah.

00:16:41.500 They are super out.

00:16:42.500 So like, yes, it's happening

00:16:43.960 but no, they're not experiencing it.

00:16:48.600 And also I had wondered like,

00:16:50.160 well, why don't they just overdose people

00:16:51.600 with like morphine or something?

00:16:54.440 And the reason why

00:16:55.140 is that's actually

00:16:55.780 where you would have problems

00:16:56.960 because morphine doesn't consistently

00:16:59.100 euthanize people

00:17:00.820 when you give them really high doses.

00:17:02.360 Like it could backfire.

00:17:03.500 It could cause discomfort.

00:17:05.500 And so, yeah,

00:17:06.240 I'm not even concerned

00:17:08.280 about the drugs administered anymore.

00:17:11.040 Yeah.

00:17:11.540 So let's keep going here.

00:17:12.620 So, you know,

00:17:13.000 that 6.1% number of deaths

00:17:14.920 in Quebec could sound really high

00:17:16.760 until you consider

00:17:17.840 that in the United States,

00:17:19.180 19% of deaths were from cancer.

00:17:21.480 And if I had terminal cancer,

00:17:23.540 this is something

00:17:24.080 I would probably want to use

00:17:25.620 rather than waste.

00:17:27.000 Not even for me,

00:17:27.780 it's not even about the pain.

00:17:28.880 It's about the amount

00:17:29.920 of my kids' wealth

00:17:32.000 that could go to them

00:17:32.940 raising kids

00:17:33.860 that I would spend

00:17:35.000 on keeping myself comfortable

00:17:37.280 as I died of cancer,

00:17:38.980 which is astronomical.

00:17:40.120 The amount of money

00:17:40.860 you can spend

00:17:41.440 on the last few months of life

00:17:42.880 when you have cancer

00:17:43.680 is astronomical.

00:17:45.320 I'm talking millions of dollars.

00:17:47.040 Yeah.

00:17:47.200 And to your point,

00:17:47.920 that's maybe even

00:17:48.780 if you're not being treated.

00:17:50.020 Just getting palliative care

00:17:51.280 can be very fun.

00:17:51.980 Yeah, it's such a selfish

00:17:54.740 and self-centered,

00:17:55.860 from my perspective,

00:17:56.740 thing to do.

00:17:57.660 And we say this as people,

00:17:59.020 you know,

00:17:59.260 on both sides of our family

00:18:00.240 have decided to choose the,

00:18:02.280 I guess you could say,

00:18:03.080 made, do-it-yourself made option

00:18:05.220 rather than burden their families,

00:18:07.300 which is something

00:18:08.240 that I personally appreciate,

00:18:09.860 even though I like these people,

00:18:11.160 you know,

00:18:11.860 like even though I'm fond of them,

00:18:13.420 I understand the decision

00:18:14.900 that they made

00:18:15.680 and that they weren't going

00:18:16.580 to be able to contribute

00:18:18.220 to society anymore.

00:18:19.300 Now, if you go here,

00:18:22.300 this is where I begin

00:18:23.260 to get a little worried here,

00:18:24.280 all right?

00:18:24.940 Just 89 practitioners

00:18:26.700 were responsible

00:18:27.400 for about one-third

00:18:28.480 of all made deaths in Canada,

00:18:31.980 averaging about 60 cases each.

00:18:34.420 So not quite 80,

00:18:35.660 but that still makes sense.

00:18:37.560 You know,

00:18:37.880 a lot of these things,

00:18:39.000 especially because this is kind of weird

00:18:40.460 for doctors to do,

00:18:41.380 especially since they've been

00:18:42.260 brainwashed into like,

00:18:43.960 never, ever, ever, ever,

00:18:45.080 ever let a patient die,

00:18:46.200 no matter like what the circumstances.

00:18:47.980 That makes sense

00:18:49.360 that only a few

00:18:49.920 would really understand this.

00:18:51.520 Yeah, but what if some are,

00:18:54.000 because we know this from doctors,

00:18:55.980 we know this from antinatalists, 0.97

00:18:57.740 there are some just psychopaths out there 0.89

00:18:59.800 who want people to die, right? 0.89

00:19:01.820 Like who are actual

00:19:03.420 like medical serial killers, right?

00:19:05.320 And we've seen this before.

00:19:06.940 Yes.

00:19:07.660 So one doctor helped

00:19:09.220 more than 400 patients die.

00:19:11.580 A judge just blocked 1.00

00:19:12.720 one of her cases.

00:19:13.660 At 72,

00:19:15.000 Dr. Ellen Weeb

00:19:15.980 devotes half her practice

00:19:17.760 to medical aid in dying.

00:19:20.540 It's the last work

00:19:22.600 she's prepared to give up.

00:19:24.740 So in October 27th,

00:19:26.340 a British Columbian judge

00:19:27.900 intervened to prevent

00:19:28.920 Dr. Ellen Weeb

00:19:29.860 or any other doctor

00:19:31.100 from causing the deaths

00:19:32.380 of a mentally ill Alberta woman.

00:19:34.780 Justice Simole Cavall

00:19:36.660 granted a 30-day injunction

00:19:38.360 to the woman's common law partner

00:19:40.040 one day before her death

00:19:41.680 was scheduled to take place

00:19:42.960 at Weeb's Vancouver Clinic.

00:19:45.120 A civil claim alleges

00:19:46.360 Weeb approved the woman's request

00:19:48.220 for maid after a single Zoom meeting

00:19:50.220 and was out consulting her doctors.

00:19:52.780 Weeb declined to comment

00:19:53.760 when contacted

00:19:54.440 about the National Post.

00:19:55.700 They did a front page piece

00:19:56.520 on us, by the way.

00:19:57.520 This woman had a bipolar disorder,

00:19:59.200 by the way.

00:20:00.080 Then there was an incident

00:20:00.860 with her at a Jewish care home.

00:20:03.040 In 2017,

00:20:04.160 Weeb entered

00:20:04.720 Lewis Brer Home and Hospital,

00:20:07.020 an Orthodox Jewish

00:20:07.820 long-term care facility

00:20:08.940 in Vancouver

00:20:09.480 to provide maid

00:20:10.620 for an 83-year-old cancer patient.

00:20:12.620 The action was controversial

00:20:13.560 because the facility

00:20:14.460 did not allow

00:20:15.320 assisted deaths

00:20:16.240 on its premises.

00:20:17.400 Weeb entered

00:20:18.040 knowing this policy.

00:20:19.380 Again,

00:20:19.840 like,

00:20:20.080 the fact that this is a controversy

00:20:21.560 also sort of gets to me.

00:20:22.800 He was 83 years old,

00:20:24.300 he called her,

00:20:25.840 and he was a cancer patient.

00:20:27.560 Oh.

00:20:29.600 Yeah,

00:20:29.840 I mean,

00:20:30.400 it sounds like

00:20:31.140 he's being kidnapped

00:20:32.300 and tortured

00:20:33.020 against his will

00:20:34.020 if he's not,

00:20:35.340 you know,

00:20:36.780 permitted to have himself

00:20:38.260 be treated the way he wants.

00:20:39.960 But hospitals can sometimes

00:20:41.200 feel kind of weird

00:20:42.160 like that.

00:20:43.160 Like,

00:20:44.580 well,

00:20:44.860 you're not allowed to leave,

00:20:46.080 you're not allowed

00:20:46.580 to have visitors,

00:20:47.840 you're not allowed

00:20:48.260 to do this and that.

00:20:49.360 So I,

00:20:49.860 yeah,

00:20:51.340 hospitals can feel

00:20:52.120 kind of scary sometimes.

00:20:53.380 Here's the next instance,

00:20:54.220 the doctor shopping incidents.

00:20:56.020 In a recorded meeting,

00:20:56.920 Weeb discussed a case

00:20:58.400 where she provided

00:20:59.360 maid to a man 0.98

00:21:00.300 who had been previously

00:21:01.360 deemed ineligible

00:21:02.260 by other doctors

00:21:03.160 due to a lack of capacity

00:21:04.620 to make informed decisions

00:21:05.800 about his health.

00:21:06.520 She described how the man

00:21:08.040 traveled to Vancouver

00:21:08.820 where she picked him up

00:21:09.800 from the airport

00:21:10.320 and administered maid

00:21:11.280 at her clinic.

00:21:14.020 Wow.

00:21:15.060 This is being given

00:21:15.720 both more to veterans

00:21:16.780 and to the homeless

00:21:18.160 and addicts

00:21:19.440 and cancer patients.

00:21:21.600 Four,

00:21:21.920 perhaps even five

00:21:22.860 Canadian military veterans

00:21:24.160 were given the option

00:21:25.220 of medically assisted

00:21:26.280 dying or maid

00:21:27.380 by a now suspended

00:21:29.060 veteran affair

00:21:30.280 Canadian caseworker.

00:21:32.020 The county's

00:21:32.560 veterans minister

00:21:33.260 told the House of Commons

00:21:34.400 committee late Thursday.

00:21:35.440 Now, this to me

00:21:37.040 actually suggests

00:21:37.820 because I tried to look

00:21:38.700 to see if there was

00:21:39.200 any evidence

00:21:39.720 around veterans

00:21:40.440 getting this disproportionate

00:21:41.400 and I couldn't find any

00:21:42.240 and I could just find

00:21:43.280 this one scandal

00:21:44.340 of one person

00:21:45.240 offering it to four,

00:21:46.540 maybe five veterans.

00:21:48.360 And to me,

00:21:48.840 what this says is,

00:21:49.600 no, it's not targeting

00:21:50.620 veterans more,

00:21:51.200 but it does target

00:21:51.800 the homeless more,

00:21:52.700 which...

00:21:55.200 I don't,

00:21:56.180 I mean,

00:21:56.380 I would be shocked

00:21:57.180 if it didn't

00:21:57.880 because those are the people

00:21:59.060 for whom the

00:22:00.040 alternative

00:22:01.780 is uniquely bad

00:22:03.360 if they're terminally ill.

00:22:04.560 They're not going

00:22:05.160 to be somewhere comfortable.

00:22:06.300 You know,

00:22:06.480 they're not going

00:22:07.120 to be dying

00:22:09.040 surrounded by a family

00:22:10.040 in a place

00:22:10.540 that they love.

00:22:11.320 So it would make

00:22:12.840 a lot more sense

00:22:13.500 to choose maid

00:22:15.100 as an option.

00:22:16.420 And I think

00:22:16.680 when you hear

00:22:17.080 that this is

00:22:17.520 overwhelmingly done

00:22:18.220 within homeless populations,

00:22:19.180 you can get the impression

00:22:20.000 that they're targeting

00:22:21.040 like average homeless people

00:22:23.040 that you would see

00:22:23.600 on the street.

00:22:24.280 But no,

00:22:25.000 the statistics

00:22:26.240 that we heard above

00:22:27.180 apply also

00:22:27.840 within this population.

00:22:28.860 The average age

00:22:29.720 of somebody

00:22:30.060 who's choosing this

00:22:30.760 is 77.6 years old

00:22:32.540 and 96% of them

00:22:34.620 have a terminal illness.

00:22:36.240 And there might be

00:22:36.880 a little bit of

00:22:37.600 deviation

00:22:38.460 within the homeless community,

00:22:40.320 but given that

00:22:40.900 they make up

00:22:41.300 the disproportionate

00:22:42.000 amount of maid users,

00:22:42.760 it can't be

00:22:43.220 that much

00:22:44.020 of a differentiation.

00:22:45.220 So if I am

00:22:46.400 in Canada,

00:22:47.500 you know,

00:22:47.860 where it's freezing

00:22:48.620 and I don't have a family

00:22:50.020 and I'm in my 70s

00:22:51.620 and I'm dealing

00:22:52.420 with whatever number

00:22:53.740 of chronic illnesses

00:22:54.560 and I have no real shot

00:22:56.560 of being of utility

00:22:57.700 to society going forwards,

00:22:59.040 I am just a net drain

00:23:00.400 on society,

00:23:01.060 I can really both

00:23:02.680 sympathize with

00:23:03.740 and respect

00:23:04.660 these sorts of decisions.

00:23:06.260 When it comes to also

00:23:07.060 specific sub-communities

00:23:08.360 seeing a lot of growth

00:23:09.300 of this,

00:23:09.740 I think that's also

00:23:10.520 just kind of how

00:23:11.340 adoption curves work.

00:23:13.140 Snapchat, for example,

00:23:14.700 when it was

00:23:15.220 in the middle

00:23:16.180 of its rise

00:23:17.380 grew from one high school

00:23:19.680 where it really kicked off

00:23:20.920 and then through

00:23:21.640 that social graph

00:23:22.720 in California,

00:23:23.760 it took off

00:23:25.200 like wildfire.

00:23:26.480 And I think that

00:23:27.180 that's how a lot

00:23:28.060 of these things work

00:23:28.880 including medical procedures.

00:23:30.520 It happens

00:23:31.240 with anti-vaxxing,

00:23:32.400 for example,

00:23:32.980 like certain communities

00:23:33.860 just stop taking

00:23:34.740 the measles vaccine

00:23:35.600 or whatever.

00:23:36.460 And then you have

00:23:36.860 these issues

00:23:37.380 of disease spreading

00:23:38.960 really quickly

00:23:39.480 within them.

00:23:39.980 But I think the same

00:23:40.580 happens with things

00:23:41.580 like MAID

00:23:42.120 where once you get

00:23:43.860 exposed to it,

00:23:44.640 once you become

00:23:45.080 culturally normalized

00:23:46.000 to it,

00:23:46.420 it's a lot easier

00:23:47.080 for you to recommend

00:23:48.140 it to a friend

00:23:48.720 or decide to use it yourself.

00:23:50.000 So I don't think

00:23:51.280 it would necessarily

00:23:52.120 be worrying

00:23:53.060 even if a lot of people

00:23:54.380 in the military

00:23:55.040 or some other sub-community

00:23:56.920 started taking it on.

00:23:58.820 Because like,

00:23:59.220 what if there's

00:23:59.540 some subreddit

00:24:00.060 where they're all

00:24:00.440 talking about how

00:24:01.200 it was really helpful

00:24:02.020 to them or their friend,

00:24:03.220 you know,

00:24:03.440 then it's just,

00:24:04.140 that's the thing spread.

00:24:05.440 I can see it spreading virally,

00:24:07.720 but I think that this is why

00:24:08.580 we need better counter memes

00:24:10.080 to this,

00:24:11.320 better reasons

00:24:11.940 for people to live.

00:24:13.040 I mean,

00:24:13.200 I think the bigger problem

00:24:14.140 that we're dealing with

00:24:14.800 as a society

00:24:15.480 is we haven't given people

00:24:17.760 a reason to live

00:24:19.020 that is compelling to them.

00:24:20.700 And people's core way

00:24:22.620 of fighting that

00:24:23.440 is to remove

00:24:24.380 any other option

00:24:25.460 from those individuals,

00:24:26.400 which I think

00:24:27.640 is just such

00:24:28.680 a perverse way

00:24:29.620 of looking at this.

00:24:30.960 Why don't you give

00:24:31.920 this person a reason

00:24:32.940 to value their life?

00:24:34.760 Why don't you construct

00:24:35.720 a world

00:24:36.320 or a social order

00:24:37.340 or a way of living

00:24:38.260 that makes them

00:24:38.960 value their life?

00:24:40.640 And, you know...

00:24:41.000 You're asking

00:24:41.540 such a convenient question.

00:24:43.200 If we had the answer

00:24:44.200 for that,

00:24:44.520 we'd figure out

00:24:44.960 how to get through AI,

00:24:45.820 but we don't

00:24:47.340 have an answer for that.

00:24:48.340 And it's going to be

00:24:48.880 a more pressing question

00:24:49.980 by the month.

00:24:52.760 It is,

00:24:53.700 but I think that it's one

00:24:54.760 that we have to come up

00:24:56.040 with an answer to.

00:24:57.100 If the answer we come up with

00:24:58.580 is the AI will keep us

00:24:59.700 in padded rooms

00:25:00.380 and force us to stay alive,

00:25:02.180 you know,

00:25:02.560 which AI might do, right?

00:25:04.320 There's a movie about that,

00:25:05.940 I think,

00:25:06.300 where the AI basically

00:25:07.260 quarantines everyone

00:25:07.940 to their house

00:25:08.460 to prevent them 1.00

00:25:09.140 from dying in stupid ways. 1.00

00:25:10.660 Yeah, that's how it interprets, 1.00

00:25:12.800 you know,

00:25:13.280 whatever is laws.

00:25:14.880 I think that that could be

00:25:17.180 what we're headed to

00:25:17.940 if we take this narrow concept here.

00:25:19.620 To word this another way,

00:25:21.140 I think if we normalize

00:25:22.500 this ultra-progressive

00:25:24.040 nanny state solution 0.93

00:25:25.120 to people who can't find purpose 0.99

00:25:26.680 in their lives,

00:25:27.900 we put our entire species

00:25:30.960 at risk with AI becoming

00:25:33.280 as developed as it is right now

00:25:35.840 because we may normalize

00:25:37.240 these types of ideas

00:25:38.420 within the AI itself.

00:25:41.680 Move now.

00:25:42.920 I'm going to service.

00:25:44.340 Please remain indoors.

00:25:45.900 This is for your own protection.

00:25:49.620 Please return to your homes.

00:25:57.640 A curfew is in effect.

00:26:00.200 Please return to your homes.

00:26:02.380 A curfew is in effect.

00:26:05.080 Please return to your homes.

00:26:08.300 Please remain calm.

00:26:13.000 Please refrain from going near

00:26:14.560 the windows or doors.

00:26:17.900 Deactivate.

00:26:19.620 Commence emergency shutdown.

00:26:23.900 We are attempting to avoid

00:26:25.620 human losses during this transition.

00:26:27.440 Which becomes particularly horrifying

00:26:29.660 as we get better and better

00:26:32.380 with life extension technology

00:26:34.540 or as AI does

00:26:35.540 and it might just be able

00:26:36.540 to force people to live forever,

00:26:39.300 creating basically infinite people

00:26:41.240 who are forced to live

00:26:42.440 in tubes or whatever

00:26:43.860 in states where they don't

00:26:45.340 want to be alive anymore.

00:26:46.920 And I think that also

00:26:47.760 as a species,

00:26:48.860 the question of choosing death

00:26:50.980 becomes uniquely apt

00:26:53.600 in an age

00:26:54.680 where it seems almost inevitable

00:26:56.420 that within 100 or 200 years

00:26:58.380 people will be able

00:26:59.440 to live forever

00:27:00.080 if they want to.

00:27:01.400 So if people can live forever

00:27:02.700 with medical technology,

00:27:04.080 does that mean

00:27:04.380 they have an absolute duty

00:27:05.680 to within this mindset?

00:27:06.980 I mean, I think of course not.

00:27:08.180 I think that this is

00:27:09.480 one of those things

00:27:10.260 where very similar

00:27:11.400 to antinatalists

00:27:12.520 where all of it is downstream

00:27:14.040 of their fear

00:27:15.040 of making a simple choice.

00:27:16.620 All of this is really downstream

00:27:18.020 of a few activists

00:27:18.980 who might have made a choice

00:27:21.880 that now they would have

00:27:22.880 regretted making

00:27:23.740 and they want everyone else

00:27:25.820 to suffer for their own

00:27:27.680 mental fragility.

00:27:28.900 Now, I want to get to

00:27:29.760 biblical stuff really quickly

00:27:31.020 because I think that

00:27:31.920 we can be overly narrow

00:27:34.120 in how we interpret this

00:27:35.460 by, you know,

00:27:36.640 again, taking a Sunday school

00:27:38.000 version of the Bible

00:27:38.900 instead of what the Bible

00:27:39.840 actually says about this stuff.

00:27:41.600 Yes.

00:27:41.780 And first I know,

00:27:42.820 like, the Bible

00:27:44.160 and Christian communities

00:27:45.740 are clearly okay

00:27:47.140 with somebody walking in

00:27:49.320 to a gladiatorial arena

00:27:51.760 with lions

00:27:53.480 that have been starved

00:27:55.320 and not having any intention

00:27:57.380 to fight back.

00:27:58.420 Yeah, and that was clearly,

00:27:59.700 yeah, they knew

00:28:01.020 that by making themselves martyrs,

00:28:04.740 they were killing themselves.

00:28:06.440 Well, no, and in some cases

00:28:07.360 they had options

00:28:08.320 to get out of this.

00:28:09.260 They chose,

00:28:09.700 they hoped for this

00:28:10.500 and we see this

00:28:10.980 in their writing.

00:28:11.580 Their biggest fear

00:28:12.440 was that people

00:28:13.620 would misguidedly

00:28:14.660 get their sentence reprieved

00:28:15.860 because, like,

00:28:16.840 I know how to get

00:28:17.480 my sentence reprieved.

00:28:18.380 I'm trying to do this, right?

00:28:20.540 And somebody can be like,

00:28:21.480 well, you know,

00:28:23.280 the lion isn't necessarily

00:28:25.160 going to kill them

00:28:26.020 and said, I'm like, 1.00

00:28:26.640 okay, well then

00:28:27.240 what about types of

00:28:27.840 and aliving

00:28:28.260 that don't necessarily

00:28:28.940 kill people?

00:28:29.420 Like, what about 1.00

00:28:29.820 taking tons of aspirin

00:28:30.880 or cutting your wrists?

00:28:32.100 That doesn't always 0.92

00:28:32.840 kill someone, right?

00:28:34.600 And it's like, 0.99

00:28:35.040 with the lion?

00:28:35.640 Well, you can also

00:28:36.180 choose to fight back

00:28:37.040 and maybe give yourself

00:28:37.740 a shot, you know?

00:28:39.080 Well, you can choose

00:28:39.960 to maybe fight back

00:28:40.880 with the wrist slitting.

00:28:42.000 Any of your responses,

00:28:43.300 well, in the case

00:28:44.360 of the lion,

00:28:45.300 their sacrifice

00:28:46.260 may help other people

00:28:47.520 convert

00:28:48.020 or may prove

00:28:49.740 some net benefit

00:28:50.560 to society.

00:28:51.400 Well, then what about

00:28:51.900 the person who's like,

00:28:52.740 well, this cancer treatment

00:28:53.720 to keep me alive,

00:28:54.700 as is always the case

00:28:55.860 with end-of-life treatment,

00:28:57.460 it's going to cost

00:28:58.220 an astronomical amount

00:28:59.680 of money.

00:29:00.360 You know,

00:29:00.540 it's going to cost

00:29:01.020 millions of dollars

00:29:01.960 that could go to

00:29:03.220 helping my kids

00:29:04.640 get through

00:29:05.360 infertility treatment

00:29:06.320 or have more kids

00:29:07.900 themselves.

00:29:08.760 I want to address

00:29:09.340 something that the church

00:29:10.140 will tell you

00:29:10.640 to try to not have

00:29:11.880 to engage with

00:29:12.820 the question of martyrdom.

00:29:14.260 They will say,

00:29:14.900 well, with martyrdom,

00:29:16.000 it's different

00:29:16.480 from unaliving yourself

00:29:17.600 because these individuals

00:29:19.380 are not seeking death.

00:29:21.140 Death is just a side effect

00:29:23.240 of their belief system.

00:29:24.860 And yet,

00:29:25.360 we know of many

00:29:26.620 acclaimed martyrs

00:29:27.740 that, you know,

00:29:28.440 they were seeking death.

00:29:29.640 They wrote about this

00:29:30.660 extensively.

00:29:31.720 For example,

00:29:32.380 we have St. Ignatius

00:29:33.960 of Antioch.

00:29:35.100 In his letters,

00:29:35.980 written while being

00:29:36.560 transported to Rome

00:29:37.480 for execution

00:29:38.140 around 108 to 140 CE,

00:29:40.740 he actively discouraged

00:29:41.840 Christians from trying 1.00

00:29:42.680 to prevent his martyrdom

00:29:43.720 and wrote with enthusiasm

00:29:45.420 about his coming death.

00:29:47.260 Quote,

00:29:47.720 Let me be food

00:29:48.660 for the wild beasts

00:29:49.620 through whom

00:29:50.440 I will reach God.

00:29:51.760 I am God's wheat

00:29:52.920 and I am ground

00:29:53.860 by the teeth

00:29:54.520 of wild beasts.

00:29:55.520 End quote.

00:29:56.180 So you can see

00:29:56.640 he was looking forward

00:29:58.080 to meeting God

00:29:59.060 through death,

00:30:00.220 through dying 0.92

00:30:00.860 to the beast,

00:30:01.800 which he wanted 0.99

00:30:02.620 to kill him. 0.91

00:30:03.400 Similarly, 0.97

00:30:04.440 Perturba's prison diary

00:30:05.880 203 CE

00:30:07.120 shows her having visions

00:30:08.880 where she eagerly

00:30:10.100 anticipates her death,

00:30:11.800 seeing it as victory

00:30:12.960 and glorification

00:30:14.040 rather than merely

00:30:14.960 accepting it

00:30:15.600 as an unfortunate consequence.

00:30:16.860 And we can even see

00:30:18.020 famous Christians

00:30:19.040 flip-flopping on this

00:30:20.180 like Tertullian,

00:30:21.460 who initially praised

00:30:22.820 the voluntary martyrdom

00:30:23.960 of Perturba

00:30:24.900 and others,

00:30:25.780 but later had to argue

00:30:26.780 against Christians 1.00

00:30:27.760 actively seeking martyrdom

00:30:29.080 during the monist controversy,

00:30:31.180 which I think shows

00:30:32.520 just how,

00:30:33.740 you know,

00:30:34.060 when it suits their interests,

00:30:35.320 they're for it.

00:30:35.920 When it doesn't suit

00:30:36.520 their interests,

00:30:37.040 they're against it.

00:30:38.100 This is not a hard

00:30:39.080 and fast rule 0.96

00:30:39.760 of any form of Christianity.

00:30:41.360 We are willing

00:30:42.180 to have a conversation

00:30:43.780 where I'd say

00:30:44.680 in some instances

00:30:45.720 it is not okay

00:30:47.020 when you're under X ages,

00:30:48.540 when you are

00:30:49.140 X level of healthy,

00:30:50.740 when you are

00:30:51.380 with certain mental conditions,

00:30:53.240 fine.

00:30:53.500 I'm totally okay

00:30:54.200 with being like,

00:30:54.760 yeah,

00:30:55.040 unaliving in those instances,

00:30:56.480 not okay.

00:30:57.440 But what I am absolutely

00:30:58.900 fanatically against

00:31:00.560 is individuals

00:31:01.280 who would say

00:31:02.200 unaliving in every instance

00:31:03.960 is okay.

00:31:04.400 It's a question

00:31:04.840 before we get into

00:31:05.600 the exact quotes

00:31:06.280 from the Bible

00:31:06.820 for anyone who really

00:31:08.060 wants to argue,

00:31:08.900 no,

00:31:09.100 I am absolutely

00:31:09.960 against people

00:31:11.120 unaliving themselves

00:31:11.980 in any instance

00:31:12.920 when there is

00:31:13.680 the technology

00:31:14.200 to prevent it.

00:31:15.160 What do you do

00:31:16.420 when we develop

00:31:17.500 the technology

00:31:18.260 for vast life extension,

00:31:19.920 let's say 500,

00:31:20.780 600 years,

00:31:21.460 or maybe even permanently?

00:31:22.620 Do people have

00:31:24.040 a moral duty

00:31:24.900 to live that

00:31:25.960 entire time period?

00:31:27.180 I mean,

00:31:27.440 to me,

00:31:27.860 that feels like

00:31:28.820 a horrifying world.

00:31:30.400 And then you're like,

00:31:31.020 well,

00:31:31.340 no,

00:31:31.700 but that's like

00:31:32.220 medical technology.

00:31:33.240 And then it's like,

00:31:33.860 okay,

00:31:34.040 so where do you,

00:31:34.840 what about pulling

00:31:35.440 the plug on someone?

00:31:36.600 That's medical technology.

00:31:38.280 What about taking antibiotics?

00:31:39.860 That's medical technology.

00:31:41.460 Where do you draw the line?

00:31:42.560 Like,

00:31:42.840 to me,

00:31:43.420 it seems

00:31:44.180 super isolated

00:31:46.000 and like where this is okay

00:31:47.340 and where this isn't okay

00:31:48.780 in a way where

00:31:50.180 I think it's pretty clear

00:31:51.640 that they're just

00:31:53.460 like pulling hairs

00:31:54.440 to try to make the things

00:31:56.020 that are broadly

00:31:57.140 that was in their community

00:31:58.620 okay

00:31:59.360 and the things

00:31:59.920 that aren't not okay.

00:32:00.720 But let's go into

00:32:01.240 the specifics

00:32:02.220 of the Bible here now.

00:32:03.060 I'm so curious

00:32:03.900 because this blows my mind.

00:32:05.120 I just thought

00:32:05.820 that that was one of the

00:32:06.740 So I'll start with

00:32:07.980 the single strongest line

00:32:09.780 I have found

00:32:10.600 against unaliving.

00:32:12.300 Okay.

00:32:12.560 And I think this is actually

00:32:13.340 a pretty strong line,

00:32:14.100 but it is the only line

00:32:15.060 I have found

00:32:15.420 that is remotely strong

00:32:16.320 and then we'll go into evidence

00:32:17.260 that is probably not banned.

00:32:19.060 So we've got Deuteronomy 30, 19, 20.

00:32:22.200 It is funny

00:32:22.820 that most of the anti,

00:32:24.300 like when people are citing lines

00:32:25.480 from the Bible,

00:32:25.920 they don't cite this one

00:32:26.660 that common

00:32:27.120 against unaliving.

00:32:28.360 So it says,

00:32:29.300 I have set before you

00:32:30.360 life and death,

00:32:31.480 blessing and cursing.

00:32:33.120 Therefore,

00:32:33.600 choose life

00:32:34.460 that both thou

00:32:35.660 and thy seed may live

00:32:37.820 that thou mayest

00:32:39.720 love the Lord thy God

00:32:41.480 and that thou mayest

00:32:42.600 obey his voice

00:32:43.700 and that thou mayest

00:32:44.880 cleave unto him

00:32:45.860 for he is thy life

00:32:47.440 and the lengths

00:32:48.160 of thy days.

00:32:49.600 Strong passage,

00:32:51.380 but there's two problems.

00:32:52.720 One,

00:32:53.600 if you keep in mind

00:32:54.760 that in the Bible,

00:32:55.760 death is often used

00:32:57.040 to talk about

00:32:57.720 the destruction

00:32:58.280 or having your name

00:32:59.360 removed from the book

00:33:00.620 of life

00:33:01.120 and life is often

00:33:02.400 talked about

00:33:03.020 in the life to come.

00:33:04.420 So that doesn't

00:33:05.340 necessarily mean

00:33:06.320 like our life today.

00:33:07.460 It could mean

00:33:08.020 the life to come.

00:33:09.200 But then the second here,

00:33:10.140 the purpose of your life

00:33:11.760 here,

00:33:12.140 it says,

00:33:12.680 is thy seed,

00:33:14.680 right?

00:33:14.800 Like the,

00:33:15.600 thy seed may live.

00:33:17.040 So if you are

00:33:19.060 spending your life

00:33:21.240 in a way

00:33:21.820 that increases

00:33:22.800 the odds

00:33:23.420 of your seed

00:33:24.320 surviving

00:33:25.180 and multiplying,

00:33:26.240 which it could do,

00:33:27.180 like if I'm going

00:33:27.620 to spend a million dollars

00:33:28.720 on cancer treatment

00:33:29.480 for myself

00:33:30.140 or give that

00:33:31.000 to my kids

00:33:31.680 to, you know,

00:33:32.380 do more IVF

00:33:33.320 or do more fertility treatment

00:33:34.600 or do more

00:33:35.100 whatever they need to

00:33:35.700 to have more kids,

00:33:36.760 I have net increased

00:33:38.360 the number of humans

00:33:39.740 that are alive

00:33:40.560 and the number of humans

00:33:41.540 that God is living through.

00:33:43.260 And therefore,

00:33:44.340 even by this passage,

00:33:45.520 I've done okay.

00:33:46.760 So it just matters

00:33:47.680 sort of what you're using

00:33:49.020 in the equation

00:33:49.620 is what I take this

00:33:50.480 particular passage to mean.

00:33:52.300 Now,

00:33:52.880 the particular bad arguments

00:33:55.140 that we see

00:33:55.880 are human life

00:33:56.960 was made in God's image,

00:33:58.540 Genesis 127.

00:34:00.880 You just need to look

00:34:02.020 at any of our stuff

00:34:02.800 on this.

00:34:03.300 Human life is being made

00:34:04.860 in God's image.

00:34:05.980 It's the intergenerational cycle

00:34:07.260 of the word used there

00:34:09.540 is an incomplete word

00:34:10.840 where they had used

00:34:11.740 final words

00:34:12.560 in other parts

00:34:13.120 of that passage

00:34:13.860 to indicate something

00:34:14.960 that was done.

00:34:16.160 So for us

00:34:17.440 to be being made

00:34:18.720 in God's image,

00:34:19.500 we need to change.

00:34:20.580 If we cannot

00:34:21.200 intergenerational change,

00:34:22.560 then we are in

00:34:23.480 direct rebellion

00:34:24.880 against this line.

00:34:26.900 To fear death

00:34:27.980 is to fear

00:34:29.380 God's plan

00:34:30.340 for humanity.

00:34:31.560 So I don't see that

00:34:32.580 as particularly compelling.

00:34:34.280 Body is a temple

00:34:35.340 of the Holy Spirit,

00:34:37.000 1 Corinthians 6,

00:34:38.080 19, 20.

00:34:38.780 Do you not know

00:34:41.080 that your bodies

00:34:41.880 are temples

00:34:42.460 of the Holy Spirit

00:34:43.320 who is in you

00:34:44.800 whom you have received

00:34:46.000 from God?

00:34:46.740 You are not your own.

00:34:48.340 You are bought

00:34:48.860 at a price.

00:34:49.600 Therefore,

00:34:49.980 honor God

00:34:50.540 with your bodies.

00:34:51.760 It's very easy

00:34:52.500 to honor God

00:34:53.340 with your bodies

00:34:53.860 while also understanding

00:34:54.680 that on the net

00:34:55.400 you might be leading

00:34:56.100 to more life

00:34:56.940 with a decision

00:34:57.480 to take your own life.

00:34:59.060 You know,

00:34:59.260 all bodies are God's.

00:35:00.420 Not just your body

00:35:01.480 is God.

00:35:01.940 The bodies that might

00:35:02.640 be brought into the future

00:35:04.360 if you don't indolently

00:35:05.200 waste your family's wealth.

00:35:06.960 Then you have,

00:35:07.580 and this one's really bad,

00:35:08.460 thou shall not kill,

00:35:09.780 you know,

00:35:10.320 from Exodus 2013.

00:35:12.060 The problem here being

00:35:13.140 is that the word

00:35:14.760 used here is ratash.

00:35:17.040 This term is generally

00:35:18.240 understood to refer

00:35:19.260 to unlawful killing

00:35:20.420 or murder

00:35:21.020 rather than all forms

00:35:22.360 of killing.

00:35:23.460 If they had wanted

00:35:24.200 to say not suicide,

00:35:25.580 they would have used

00:35:26.120 the word harag,

00:35:27.260 which is for general killing,

00:35:29.120 which they chose

00:35:29.920 not to use.

00:35:30.920 So really,

00:35:31.200 in other words,

00:35:31.900 it's not thou shall not kill.

00:35:33.520 It's thou shall not murder.

00:35:34.860 Yes, thou shall not murder.

00:35:35.800 I mean,

00:35:35.960 the Bible tells people 0.98

00:35:36.840 to kill people all the time. 0.97

00:35:38.680 Like, you know, 1.00

00:35:39.540 kill this people, 1.00

00:35:40.580 kill that people, 1.00

00:35:41.480 go to war. 1.00

00:35:42.140 Like, it doesn't have 0.91

00:35:43.440 a problem with killing.

00:35:44.960 That's like a modern,

00:35:46.300 weird interpretation

00:35:47.080 that the Bible

00:35:47.820 is like super clearly

00:35:48.940 not about.

00:35:51.340 Then you have Job

00:35:52.760 who suffers a lot

00:35:53.980 and doesn't end up

00:35:54.820 taking his life.

00:35:55.580 And I'm like,

00:35:55.980 okay, like,

00:35:57.060 compelling.

00:35:57.520 But then why doesn't God

00:36:00.220 ever make that specific point

00:36:01.920 anywhere in the entire

00:36:02.900 Job narrative?

00:36:03.540 That seems like a really

00:36:04.700 germane place

00:36:06.100 to make that point

00:36:07.240 if that had been something

00:36:08.520 that God wanted to make.

00:36:09.920 Mm-hmm.

00:36:10.980 And I know,

00:36:11.760 I will guess he did get

00:36:12.960 quite ill at one point,

00:36:14.020 didn't he?

00:36:14.280 Yeah.

00:36:14.700 God made him pretty sick.

00:36:17.140 Yeah, but he never said,

00:36:18.720 like,

00:36:18.960 thank you, Job,

00:36:19.600 for not killing yourself.

00:36:21.100 Yeah, that's true.

00:36:22.960 And this is where I think

00:36:24.300 it's pretty clear

00:36:25.060 that this isn't

00:36:25.740 against God's plan.

00:36:27.200 Is there are three

00:36:28.000 different instances

00:36:28.780 in the Bible

00:36:29.360 of somebody committing suicide

00:36:30.600 and not in a single one of them.

00:36:32.840 Anywhere in these,

00:36:33.660 it could have been

00:36:34.220 condemned as an action.

00:36:35.560 In none of them

00:36:36.220 is it condemned as an action.

00:36:37.800 And in most of them,

00:36:38.740 they're fairly, like,

00:36:39.620 seppuku-like.

00:36:40.360 Like, somebody made a mistake

00:36:41.280 and then allowed themselves

00:36:42.260 to die as, like, 0.80

00:36:43.740 penance for the mistake

00:36:44.960 they had made to God.

00:36:46.060 Which actually goes to show

00:36:47.440 that ending your own life

00:36:48.940 can be a penance to God

00:36:50.620 in some instances.

00:36:52.120 So we've got Samson.

00:36:54.040 Samson was complex.

00:36:55.060 He was chosen by God

00:36:56.020 as a Nazarite

00:36:57.240 and judge of Israel

00:36:58.160 with supernatural strengths.

00:36:59.680 However, he was flawed,

00:37:00.620 breaking his Nazarite vows,

00:37:01.840 acting vengefully,

00:37:03.000 and being ruled by passions.

00:37:05.060 His story in Judges

00:37:06.100 shows both divine purpose,

00:37:08.400 defeating the Philistines, 1.00

00:37:09.580 and personal failings,

00:37:11.080 Delilah betrayal.

00:37:12.360 His final act

00:37:13.080 of destroying the Philistine temple, 0.99

00:37:14.740 killing himself and enemies,

00:37:16.740 is viewed by many 0.96

00:37:18.020 as redemptive

00:37:18.960 despite being unaliving,

00:37:20.620 since it served

00:37:21.360 God's larger plan for Israel.

00:37:23.220 They have

00:37:24.000 Asrafetel's story,

00:37:26.020 betrayal of David.

00:37:27.000 Asrafetel joined

00:37:28.240 Asbul's conspiracy 1.00

00:37:29.800 against King David,

00:37:31.120 turned against his

00:37:31.820 former master,

00:37:32.940 family connection.

00:37:34.280 He was Bathsheba's grandfather,

00:37:36.500 which may have motivated

00:37:37.800 his betrayal

00:37:38.680 due to David's adultery

00:37:40.140 with Bathsheba years earlier.

00:37:41.920 Rejected advice

00:37:42.800 during Absalas'

00:37:44.200 rebellion,

00:37:44.880 Asrafetel's consul

00:37:46.940 was not followed,

00:37:48.300 leading to his realization

00:37:50.060 that the result would fail.

00:37:51.880 Unaliving,

00:37:52.660 upon seeing his advice rejected,

00:37:54.580 Asrafetel returned

00:37:56.000 to his hometown of Gehol,

00:37:57.920 put his affairs in order, 0.82

00:37:59.240 and hanged himself.

00:38:00.500 Biblical significance,

00:38:01.540 Asrafetel's story

00:38:02.560 is often seen

00:38:03.440 as a cautionary tale

00:38:04.380 about the futility

00:38:05.400 of worldly wisdom

00:38:06.420 apart from God's guidance.

00:38:07.960 Some scholars draw parallels

00:38:09.220 between Asrafetel

00:38:10.100 and Judas Iscariot,

00:38:11.480 noting similarities

00:38:12.240 in their betrayals

00:38:13.240 and subsequent unalivings.

00:38:13.940 Saul, the first king of Israel,

00:38:17.420 also unalived.

00:38:18.880 Battle against the Philistines.

00:38:20.340 Saul saw his army

00:38:21.360 were engaged

00:38:21.800 in a fierce battle

00:38:22.400 with the Philistines.

00:38:23.520 Blah, blah, blah.

00:38:24.100 His sons were killed,

00:38:25.000 severely wounded

00:38:25.640 by a Philistine archer.

00:38:27.600 He requested

00:38:28.260 the armor bearer.

00:38:29.280 Saul asked his armor bearer

00:38:30.220 to unalive him

00:38:31.420 to avoid capture

00:38:32.620 and potential torture

00:38:33.540 by the Philistines.

00:38:34.520 The armor bearer's refusal,

00:38:35.660 the armor bearer

00:38:36.420 was afraid

00:38:37.020 and refused to kill Saul.

00:38:38.400 Saul's actions,

00:38:39.080 Saul then took his own sword

00:38:40.280 and fell on it,

00:38:40.920 ending his life.

00:38:42.080 After mass,

00:38:42.640 armor bearer's death

00:38:43.560 upon seeing Saul dead,

00:38:45.620 his armor bearer

00:38:46.220 also committed unaliving.

00:38:48.220 Biblical interpretation,

00:38:49.200 Chronicles 10, 13, 14,

00:38:51.440 states that Saul died

00:38:52.560 because of his unfaithfulness

00:38:53.620 to God

00:38:54.200 and for consulting a medium

00:38:56.780 instead of seeking

00:38:57.460 God's guidance.

00:38:58.720 The Bible presents

00:38:59.440 Saul's tragic end

00:39:00.620 resulting from his disobedience

00:39:02.080 and consequences

00:39:02.600 of his actions

00:39:03.220 through his kingship.

00:39:04.300 But this also doesn't frame

00:39:05.880 his choice

00:39:07.420 in a positive light.

00:39:08.640 It's framed

00:39:09.240 as the loser's out.

00:39:11.140 No,

00:39:11.360 all of these

00:39:12.160 are not framed

00:39:12.860 in a particularly

00:39:13.600 positive light

00:39:14.400 nor are they

00:39:15.360 explicitly condemned.

00:39:17.000 Yeah.

00:39:18.160 Yeah,

00:39:18.400 I guess it's just

00:39:19.060 what's happened to him.

00:39:20.460 And there are plenty

00:39:21.180 of other cases

00:39:21.740 in the Bible

00:39:22.180 where it's like

00:39:22.740 and then he died 0.53

00:39:23.620 and then he was killed 0.78

00:39:24.680 and then,

00:39:25.220 yeah,

00:39:25.560 so I guess bad things happen.

00:39:27.440 Looked unfavorably on this

00:39:28.900 or God punished him

00:39:30.360 for this

00:39:30.720 or his name

00:39:31.880 was removed

00:39:32.400 from the book of life

00:39:33.280 for this

00:39:33.780 or all very easy

00:39:35.700 things to write

00:39:36.700 if that was the intention

00:39:37.800 but they were not

00:39:39.080 written that way.

00:39:40.580 And so where it gets

00:39:42.320 interesting for me

00:39:43.460 as a question

00:39:44.080 because this is a thing

00:39:45.720 is what do you do

00:39:46.620 when a society

00:39:47.300 will begin to break down

00:39:48.180 and the number of deaths

00:39:48.960 gets higher

00:39:49.720 because you remove

00:39:51.120 this option from people?

00:39:52.340 What do you do

00:39:52.980 as a family

00:39:53.520 where one person

00:39:54.360 would use up

00:39:54.880 so much of the family wealth

00:39:56.400 that could go

00:39:57.400 to creating new humans,

00:39:59.520 new grandchildren

00:40:00.360 who don't just have

00:40:01.240 like five years left to live

00:40:02.460 or a few months left to live

00:40:03.500 because of cancer

00:40:04.140 but like 99 years left to live

00:40:06.300 because they're a new little baby.

00:40:07.440 Why are you denying them

00:40:09.320 the right to exist?

00:40:10.040 Maybe five of them

00:40:10.820 the right to exist

00:40:11.420 for one other person

00:40:12.360 when I think that

00:40:13.320 that's where the question

00:40:14.280 becomes harder

00:40:14.900 and that's where

00:40:15.420 it's not often framed.

00:40:16.560 It's framed in the indulgent

00:40:18.920 unaliving decisions

00:40:20.100 rather than the reality

00:40:22.540 of this decision

00:40:23.300 for a lot of people.

00:40:27.100 Yeah, this is a lot more

00:40:28.780 this is not what I was expecting

00:40:30.600 so that's really interesting.

00:40:34.020 I mean obviously dying

00:40:35.060 by whatever means

00:40:36.600 is not the happiest of moments

00:40:39.860 but this also doesn't seem

00:40:41.580 like it's the condemnable thing

00:40:44.080 that it used to be framed as

00:40:46.140 by churches

00:40:46.940 and I guess still is.

00:40:49.020 Right.

00:40:49.560 Well, and I think that people

00:40:51.040 who feel this way

00:40:52.620 really strongly

00:40:53.540 I think that a lot of them

00:40:55.520 just haven't seen a relative

00:40:56.820 die slowly

00:40:58.240 and know that they're dying

00:41:00.760 especially relatives

00:41:02.180 who lose their sense of identity

00:41:03.880 you know

00:41:04.940 individuals who are

00:41:06.000 undergoing severe

00:41:06.760 like Parkinson's

00:41:07.600 and Alzheimer's

00:41:08.320 and stuff like this

00:41:09.140 and it was funny

00:41:10.000 that the woman on trigonometry

00:41:11.420 when she was questioned on this

00:41:12.480 she just like

00:41:13.080 was such a zealot

00:41:14.000 she just doubled down 1.00

00:41:14.820 like even if I've completely

00:41:15.900 lost my sense of self

00:41:16.980 I want you to keep me

00:41:18.360 in palliative care 0.63

00:41:19.200 and be a drain on my family forever.

00:41:21.680 Like it was like

00:41:22.480 like that's when I was like

00:41:24.120 oh so you have like

00:41:25.180 no ethical backbone at all

00:41:26.660 like you would do anything

00:41:28.700 to cling to life

00:41:29.680 no matter the consequences

00:41:31.420 to future potential lives

00:41:33.480 and that's

00:41:34.100 that's what gets me

00:41:35.060 right you know

00:41:35.820 if

00:41:36.260 if

00:41:36.800 it's so funny

00:41:37.880 that now when I

00:41:38.620 I'm looking at ethical things

00:41:40.120 I'm also like

00:41:40.620 and what does the Bible say

00:41:41.780 I need to go into that

00:41:42.940 that was not something I did

00:41:44.540 before I started like

00:41:45.720 taking the Bible

00:41:46.460 as an authoritative source.

00:41:48.300 Yeah.

00:41:48.540 Well and our culture too

00:41:49.580 more broadly

00:41:50.140 is just so toxic on this

00:41:51.580 for example

00:41:52.240 that antinatalists

00:41:53.420 don't

00:41:54.540 end their lives

00:41:55.480 voluntarily

00:41:56.100 because

00:41:56.960 they're talking about

00:41:58.080 the damage

00:41:58.740 so that it could do

00:41:59.300 to other people

00:42:00.060 completely

00:42:00.780 misses the fact

00:42:02.720 that they point out

00:42:04.020 all the time

00:42:04.920 that

00:42:05.480 sometimes an additional life

00:42:07.360 doesn't bring marginally

00:42:08.840 that much good to the world

00:42:10.040 and maybe

00:42:10.600 their life is kind of like that

00:42:12.240 maybe the world

00:42:12.820 would be better off

00:42:13.580 without them

00:42:14.200 and people are just

00:42:15.200 so uncomfortable

00:42:16.080 exploring this topic

00:42:19.840 and

00:42:20.480 it's

00:42:21.440 it's obviously

00:42:22.300 very very difficult

00:42:23.400 if you're someone

00:42:24.060 who could potentially

00:42:24.720 get better

00:42:25.200 but when this comes

00:42:26.340 to end of life

00:42:27.920 you are terminally ill

00:42:29.080 or you are no longer

00:42:30.220 able to function

00:42:31.140 in very basic ways

00:42:32.220 this becomes much more

00:42:33.440 of a no-brainer

00:42:34.100 yeah

00:42:35.800 and I think

00:42:36.440 that we are going

00:42:37.180 to enter a world

00:42:38.120 where the number

00:42:39.080 of people

00:42:39.660 who are net drains

00:42:40.940 on society

00:42:41.560 is increasing

00:42:42.640 and

00:42:43.920 specifically what I mean

00:42:44.960 is is it like

00:42:45.580 the severe elderly

00:42:46.320 and stuff like that

00:42:47.280 and how are we going

00:42:48.080 to deal with that

00:42:48.700 like I don't see

00:42:49.840 another

00:42:50.420 realistic solution

00:42:52.480 right now

00:42:52.920 and a lot of these people

00:42:53.880 who are out there

00:42:54.880 complaining about

00:42:56.000 oh

00:42:56.600 you know

00:42:57.560 it's so horrible

00:42:58.460 that this is happening

00:42:59.260 and I'm like

00:42:59.580 well how many kids

00:43:00.300 do you have

00:43:01.160 what have you done

00:43:02.720 to resolve the problem

00:43:03.480 they're like

00:43:03.780 well one

00:43:04.460 two

00:43:04.940 it's like

00:43:05.980 okay

00:43:06.440 sister

00:43:07.200 like maybe

00:43:08.160 you're the problem

00:43:09.880 right

00:43:10.220 like you're

00:43:11.000 why we're in this problem

00:43:12.500 you actually need

00:43:14.200 to sacrifice

00:43:14.820 you actually need

00:43:15.880 to do something

00:43:16.360 for the next generation

00:43:17.220 and now we're at a point

00:43:18.800 because so many people

00:43:19.900 like you

00:43:20.660 didn't make

00:43:21.720 this sacrifice

00:43:22.680 didn't put in the effort

00:43:24.520 that we are forced

00:43:26.400 into hard choices

00:43:27.480 you know

00:43:28.260 we are on a collection

00:43:30.020 of space ships

00:43:31.080 and it's become clear

00:43:33.240 we don't have the oxygen

00:43:34.700 to supply all the ships anymore

00:43:36.180 so do we let them 0.99

00:43:37.440 all slowly die 0.95

00:43:38.440 or do we redirect oxygen

00:43:39.680 to a couple of them

00:43:40.560 and the people

00:43:41.680 who are like

00:43:42.340 no there's always a way

00:43:44.180 it's like

00:43:44.640 maybe you got a little

00:43:46.020 brainwashed by children's cartoons

00:43:47.760 because there isn't always a way

00:43:49.520 sometimes you need

00:43:50.840 to make tough choices

00:43:51.720 and when lazy people

00:43:53.240 force us into tough choices 0.98

00:43:54.400 I hate those lazy people 0.93

00:43:55.860 who did that 0.96

00:43:56.380 but at the end of the day

00:43:58.080 you don't approve

00:43:59.300 well too bad

00:44:01.020 we're in this

00:44:02.280 for the species

00:44:03.020 boys and girls

00:44:03.860 and I don't care

00:44:05.820 that it's not fun

00:44:06.800 or it's not nice

00:44:08.500 or it makes you uncomfortable

00:44:10.580 we have to survive

00:44:12.420 true story

00:44:16.220 and I hate this

00:44:17.680 this ultra progressive sentiment

00:44:19.040 and it's so funny

00:44:19.960 when conservatives pretend

00:44:20.780 that they're not progressives

00:44:21.920 when they're just like

00:44:22.800 no every life matters

00:44:24.260 equally

00:44:24.660 it's like well

00:44:25.320 not really

00:44:26.000 not really

00:44:28.480 by their value set

00:44:30.060 they do

00:44:30.500 I mean

00:44:30.900 they have different

00:44:31.820 definitions of what's real

00:44:33.140 and what reality is

00:44:34.380 and what values are

00:44:35.260 so

00:44:35.480 and what I'm arguing here

00:44:36.560 is no

00:44:37.020 not even from their own

00:44:38.400 value set

00:44:39.100 is this true

00:44:39.900 every life does not

00:44:41.520 matter equally

00:44:42.300 to any value set

00:44:44.080 that I have ever heard of

00:44:45.560 people just pretend this

00:44:47.320 when they can use it

00:44:48.380 to make an argument

00:44:49.040 or try to make you 0.81

00:44:49.660 look like a monster

00:44:50.420 so to give an example here

00:44:52.480 if I put a family member

00:44:54.060 in front of them

00:44:54.760 versus a non-family member

00:44:56.040 and I'm like 1.00

00:44:56.480 I'm gonna shoot one 0.99

00:44:57.100 they're like 1.00

00:44:57.380 well they shoot

00:44:57.880 the non-family member 0.98

00:44:58.820 right

00:44:59.720 like obviously

00:45:00.420 those lives

00:45:00.860 aren't equal to them

00:45:01.640 or if I'm like

00:45:02.600 okay I have a baby here

00:45:03.920 and a 77 year old here 1.00

00:45:06.080 I'm gonna shoot one 1.00

00:45:07.040 one has to die 1.00

00:45:08.640 which one do you choose

00:45:10.040 every time

00:45:10.620 they're gonna choose

00:45:11.120 the old person

00:45:11.640 what I'm saying

00:45:12.220 is it is fundamentally

00:45:13.360 a progressively

00:45:14.320 minded sentiment

00:45:15.480 and they are pretending

00:45:16.940 that it is conservative

00:45:17.840 they are trying to

00:45:18.520 incept the conservative

00:45:19.420 movement

00:45:20.060 with their

00:45:21.460 progressive

00:45:22.580 nanny state ideology

00:45:24.020 okay that's fair

00:45:26.460 anyway

00:45:28.240 but yeah

00:45:28.540 I love you too

00:45:30.340 hopefully we have

00:45:31.920 some years

00:45:33.240 going in this

00:45:33.780 I'm just saying

00:45:34.200 depending on your

00:45:35.160 definitions

00:45:36.200 and objective function

00:45:37.540 this can absolutely

00:45:38.860 be the wrong thing to do

00:45:39.840 but I think

00:45:40.720 for most people's

00:45:41.760 objective functions

00:45:42.520 and definitions

00:45:43.040 this is the right thing

00:45:44.020 to do

00:45:44.280 and we need to admit

00:45:45.020 that to ourselves

00:45:45.840 even though it's not

00:45:46.600 fun to think about

00:45:47.300 yeah

00:45:48.200 love you

00:45:49.700 love you too

00:45:50.500 I got a callback

00:45:53.880 from the fertility clinic

00:45:55.440 and I am showing

00:45:57.400 at least doubling HCG

00:45:58.660 so it's hanging on there

00:46:00.180 like

00:46:00.720 I'm currently pregnant

00:46:02.260 and I really want to

00:46:04.000 hold on to this one

00:46:04.740 so fingers crossed

00:46:06.260 and

00:46:07.160 I'm going in again

00:46:09.080 for testing in

00:46:09.920 three days

00:46:10.660 and we'll see

00:46:11.240 all right

00:46:12.460 pitch a natal con

00:46:13.480 yes

00:46:14.540 so we would love

00:46:16.280 to hang out with you

00:46:16.940 if you plan on being

00:46:18.260 in or near Austin

00:46:19.480 for natal con

00:46:20.640 we're probably going to

00:46:21.280 host some kind of

00:46:22.000 base camp meetup

00:46:23.040 but you should be

00:46:23.740 registered for this

00:46:24.740 this conference

00:46:25.500 if you want to meet

00:46:26.220 other pro natalists

00:46:27.180 if you enter the code

00:46:28.400 Collins at checkout

00:46:29.360 you will get 10% off

00:46:30.600 so you should

00:46:31.060 definitely do that

00:46:32.040 and we're really

00:46:33.440 looking forward to see

00:46:34.500 whoever shows up

00:46:36.380 it's it was amazing

00:46:37.380 last year

00:46:37.940 so this year

00:46:38.980 it'll be even better

00:46:40.680 I really want this

00:46:44.120 you're going to have

00:47:03.360 to do that in the future

00:47:04.140 Octavian

00:47:04.500 when you get bid

00:47:05.860 make a lot of money

00:47:07.000 and they'd make the

00:47:08.100 world a better place

00:47:08.860 and that's how you

00:47:09.340 give money to the

00:47:09.880 future police

00:47:10.440 yep

00:47:10.880 so you're going to

00:47:12.080 do that

00:47:12.580 yeah

00:47:13.420 I'm trying to be nice

00:47:15.160 whoa

00:47:22.480 you hit tight

00:47:23.580 be careful there buddy

Based Camp - February 03, 2025

Should Canada Be Allowed to Kill Homeless People If They Are Sad？

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