Social Media Only Hurts Dems Mental Health： Why？
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Summary
In this episode, Simone and I discuss a new piece from the Atlantic on the link between social media use and a person's mental health, and the decline in mental health. It's a fascinating piece, and one that we should all be paying attention to.
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Hello, Simone. Today is going to be an interesting day because we are going to go over so many
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graphs today. I don't even think we're going to get to them all. The first and most critical of
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the graphs is one I am going to put on screen here, and it opens up an explanatory mystery,
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I guess is what I'd call it. And so what you can see in this first chart is liberal and
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conservative depression index scores by social media use category, where red is conservative
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and blue is liberal. And the higher the bar goes, the worse their depression is. And what you see
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in this chart is that if you are a progressive, the more liberal you are, the more using social
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media depresses you. But if you are a conservative, that is not the case. In fact, using social media
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frequently appears to increase your mental health when you're at the high levels of use. Now,
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what's really fascinating, and marginally, you're still better off not using it at all,
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but marginally it increases compared to using it some versus using it an absolute ton,
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at least once a day, specifically here. And then I would point out here that actually the conservatives
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who use social media at least once a day have significantly better mental health than the
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liberals who use it only once or twice a month. That is how bad it is for liberals. Just a
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littlest bit. I mean, have you been on blue sky though? It's, it is depressing. Like that's a big
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thing that I see on blue sky that I don't see on Twitter. Like I tweet about the, the asteroid that
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was going to hit us, but then didn't hit us. And I get normal responses on blue sky. I tweet about
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that. And a bunch of the responses are finally someone to cure the plague of humans upon this earth.
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Here's where it gets really bad. Liberals and conservatives have almost exactly the same
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rates of depression and bad mental health. And we'll see this as we go to other charts when they
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don't use social media at all, which implies that, and we'll, you know, it's broadly known
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liberals have way more mental health problems than conservatives right now. If you look at white
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liberal women, for example, over 50% are dealing with a major mental health issue. But what this appears
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to be saying is this is not like an innate thing about liberals. It's not, and this article will
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argue the opposite, but like the evidence shows otherwise, it's not like, oh, if you are more
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likely to get depressed, then you're more likely to become a liberal. It's something about engaging
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with liberal culture itself. Makes you sad. Is what makes you sad. Oh my. Oh no. And what's
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interesting is we're going to be able to break out the exact parts of liberal culture that do this.
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The amount that it's not being religious, the amount that it's wokeism, the amount that it's
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DEI stuff, the amount that it's fear of like being attacked or something like that. And we often talk
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about the urban monoculture as something of a mimetic virus, which, you know, the iterations of
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it that are better at spreading spread better. And it appears to, as a mimetic virus, first sort of
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lower your mental immune system by destroying your mental health before it begins to eat away
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at your brain. And we're going to see this in the data on this piece. Specifically, what she ends up
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finding out is first the mental health declines, then a person starts identifying as a liberal,
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not first do they identify as a liberal, then the mental health declines.
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Oh, really? I would have guessed the opposite. That's really interesting. Okay.
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So I would have guessed the opposite as well. But what it appears is happening here is that the
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mental health decline is sort of an erosion of self-identity, self-pride, like self-affirmation
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ability that is required before people start like rotely accepting woke ideas.
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Oh, yeah. Like, I guess it's a lot easier to accept super progressive ideology when you have
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an external locus of control, for example, plus a lot of self-hatred. Yes.
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So it builds the self-hatred first. And I think that that's really fascinating. And we can also
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see from this other graph that it's specifically interacting with liberal culture that makes you
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mentally unhealthy, and that interacting with conservative culture frequently actually appears
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to make people a little bit more healthy, mentally speaking.
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This isn't surprising to me at all. Actually, if you look at a lot of the types of conservative
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culture that progressives complain about, and it's like a meme thing where they're like,
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how do you know your son is a conservative? Well, he exercises and he takes care of his appearance
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and he- And he takes personal responsibility for his actions.
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He's not looking at porn as much. You know, it's like, okay, but I can see why maybe these things
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are correlating to higher mental health rates. Okay. But anyway, let's get into this. So now
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we're going to go to the second figure I sent you. And these are all from a study,
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mental health trends and the great awokening. So we're starting right now with figure 27. I'm
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skipping around. I'm not showing the figures in order. I'm showing them to sort of painted
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The effects of frequent social media use on internalizing symptoms by ideology.
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Yes. It illustrates the average score differences on seven item anxiety index and a 20 item depression
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index between self-identified liberals and conservatives. These individuals reported
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using social media for over two hours at a time, at least several times a week, 36% of the sample
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compared to those who rarely do 46% of the sample. Among liberals, those who use social media more
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frequently score 0.33 standard deviation higher on the anxiety index and 0.22 standard deviations higher
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on the depression index compared with those who report never using social media for two hours
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at a time or minimal use. In contrast, these differences among conservatives are negligible.
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0.05 standard deviations and 0.04 standard deviations respectively.
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And this is a different study than the above study. So multiple studies are finding this.
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People just keep going in and finding that social media is, or I guess I should could say conservative
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online content is not bad for your mental health. It is progressive online content that's bad for your
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mental health, which means it's not the online content itself. That's bad for your mental health.
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It's not the fact that you're consuming online content that's bad for your mental health.
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It's the fact that you are conserving this ideological virus that as part of breaking you down and sort of
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turning you into a slave that will go out like an ant infected, like the Corseps virus go out and try
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to infect other ants. It needs to break down your immune system first, your mental immune system.
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What that looks like is hating yourself. Although it uses different and not, keep in mind, this study was
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showing not just depression, it was also anxiety. So in progressives, engaging with their social media
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content increases both anxiety and depression. Although it uses different and arguably more ambiguous
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measures of social media use, the 2022 wave of American national election studies social media study reveals
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similar results. Among liberals, average depression scores increase with greater social media use. For
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example, those who reported daily use of at least one platform, 70% of liberals, 64% of conservatives
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scored significantly higher on a two item depression index compared with those who never used social
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media, 7% of liberals and 8% of conservatives. Conservatives show much smaller and less consistent
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increases in depression across usage levels. Specifically, while liberals who reported daily usage
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score 0.34 standard deviation higher on depression than those who do not use any social media,
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the difference for conservatives is close to zero and not statistically significant.
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And this is a red and blue graph here on screen. That is absolutely wild how stark that is.
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Any thoughts before I go further, by the way, or theories?
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One thing that stands out to me is I could just keep thinking about both, both super progressive and
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super conservative online spheres can come across as mean, but the mean is very different. There's
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locker room mean. And actually, you know what it's mean girl mean versus locker room mean. So the locker
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room is like calling each other names, pushing each other around, but it's like immediately forgotten and not
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retained and not toxic. And then progressives have this mean girl mean, which is talking about people
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behind their backs and being really catty and organizing lists of like blocking. These people
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have been, yeah, we, we hate these people and these people need to be destroyed and everything is
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retained. Everything is held on to the, the resentment grows and festers. Whereas locker room talk is
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locker room talk. You're just messing around with each other. You know, and honestly that creates
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anti-fragility. So I'm just in my head, my intuition is going to be important for like low anxiety,
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low depression, I think. Yeah. Well, and it's again, building that anti-fragility, you need to be
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insulted. You need to be pushed. And I think the really great thing about locker room talk and that
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kind of masculine bullying and making fun is that often it's really like, it's real, you know,
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people make fun of you being fat as a dude. Cause you're fat. People make fun of you being
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short or bald as a dude. Cause you're short or bald, right? Like, and those things can really hurt,
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but they force you to find ways to deal with that and make up for it. Whereas the kind of mean girl
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talk is very different. It is about systematically destroying and pulling you down as kind of may
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blocking strategy and dominance hierarchy strategy. Yes. And, and, and you do see that these problems are
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worse for women than men when they interact in online environments. Yeah. Yeah. So that's,
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that's what I'm thinking here. These findings suggest that even if girls and liberals and
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boys and conservatives were to spend similar, if not equal amounts of time on social media,
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the former two groups would be worse off in terms of mental wellbeing. Among these groups of liberals,
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especially liberal females may suffer the most. Not only are liberals higher in neuroticism of
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emotional and aesthetic openness, empathetic concern, and justice sensitivity,
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something I hadn't heard about before, but we'll talk about traits they share with women,
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but they also tend to score lower in conscientiousness, which likely puts them at a
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disadvantage in terms of emotional regulation and focus. This further heightens their susceptibility
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to negative rumination and doom scrolling. In fact, the very limited data we have on the
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intersection of ideology and doom scrolling from a small study of online sample 500 of residents of
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OECD countries indicate that liberal and left-in-line individuals score significantly higher,
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just under 0.3 standard deviation on measures of doom scrolling compared to the political right.
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That is fascinating to me. And I think that they are wrong here. What they're seeing is that when
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people start to engage in these things or have these traits like low conscientiousness,
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it makes them more susceptible to the mind virus. Because if you have sort of mental discipline,
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then you're able to, the mind virus hits you and you're like, oh, this is stupid.
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The people who believe this stuff, obviously all are constantly tearing each other down and don't
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see. I think that this is why consistently, even with progressives, when they're high conscientiousness
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individuals who have the sort of ability to go out there, found a company, make something work,
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like a JK Rowling or something like that, they typically don't break and they stay and end up on
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the conservative side. Whereas if they're the type of person who just got their roles through like DEI or
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moving up a bureaucratic ladder, they continue to sort of hide in fear of all this. I'd also point out
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that it shows that our opponents really are not like having a good time. Like if you're a liberal, you are
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a depressed anxiety at all mess. It is not awesome. He's recently to a reporter describing what it's like
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being in the pro natalist movement. And I'm like, it's sort of like the Titanic has sunk and we're in a lifeboat
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and there's somebody in the freezing water. And I say to them, get out of the water or you're going
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to freeze to death here. You know, let me help you. And they'll say, did you hear what he just said?
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He said, if I don't get in the boat, he's going to kill me. No, what? No, I can get in the boat
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or you're going to die. And they're like, ha, he said it again. He said it again. And I'm like, okay,
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okay. So I talked them through that. And then they're like, wait a second. Didn't Hitler have
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a boat? And I'm like, what? That has nothing to do with this situation. Get in the boat. And then
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they're like, wait, are you sure there's not any racists on the boat with you? And I'm like, I don't
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know. I haven't asked these people. Like, ha, I knew it. Only a racist wouldn't ask other people if
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they're not racist. And I'm like, what, what, what does that have to do with anything? They're
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I'm just saving everyone I see right now. And it's very much like when I tell people your culture
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won't exist in the future. You can't motivate above your population fertility rate. And they're
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like, ah, so you're saying you're going to eradicate us if we can't motivate. I'm like,
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no, no, I'm not. Oh, good. Look, your friends are here. Hey, you're supposed to want to have
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children. And this is your ultimate goal in life. It is a very archaic idea and old idea and
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representation of a woman. You're getting people to sign a pledge, basically saying that
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they will not have children until the Canadian government takes serious action on climate change.
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Is that your blood? Well, no, no, it's college kid blood. And how many people have signed on so far?
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1,381 as of right now. I know what this is. This is a suicide pact. Oh my God, that makes so much
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sense. We have got to hide all of the sharp objects. Only I was born with a vagina. Solve that problem.
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Holy mother of God. Some kid, he just hooked himself right into the wood chipper. What? Head first,
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right into the wood chipper. It looked like it might've been one of the college kids. But this
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sort of constant mindset of like needing to vet everyone, having to constantly worry about fears
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of contamination is incredibly unhealthy. It's also a very, being someone who has a lot of
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contamination problems that are not connected to logic. I can tell that there's a mental problem
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there. Takes one to know one. Takes one to know one. All right. However, people's social media
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experiences, particularly the content they encounter, are at least partially influenced by the broader
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media and political context, as Figure 29 illustrates, using the salience of the New York Times since about
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2011, news media attention to societal issues. Societal issues. These are signs of the urban monoculture
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when these words are used often. Like racism, inequality, discrimination, sexism has surged
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to unprecedented levels. Oh, I wonder if it's because they're associated with a memetic virus.
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Concurrently, the underlying sentiment reflected in news media has become decidedly more negative
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and pessimistic. Of course, some of this is attributable to the rise of Trump and his
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presidency. Okay, I'm sure. Which serves to intensify these trends and consequently, the alarm
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many liberals felt. So here, if it was because of Trump and his presidency, it would have gone down in the
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Biden presidency and it didn't. And here, just across the board, you see this sharp spike upwards
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in terms of racism, sexism, oppression, privilege, trauma, discrimination, vulnerable, bias,
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patriarchy, injustice, inequality. And what's really interesting is they measured this on Twitter,
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now X, from 2008 to 2023. And what you see is it's going way up like it was with the New York
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Times. And then there's the ELOG acquisition in 2022. And it starts to fall off a cliff with all of
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these same words, which I think is really interesting. And I think a direct relation, I mean, I bet if you
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looked on Blue Sky, the use of these words is just off the chart. Yeah, I don't even, I wouldn't want to
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know. As the tenor and content of social media coverage have become more negative and alarmist,
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so have the perceptions of socio-political issues among young liberal females and males. As shown
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in figure 31, young liberals, especially liberal females, have become much more socially and politically
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conscious over the last 10 years. For instance, and I think this is just the amount of their brain
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that the urban monoculture has eaten. It's like a virus infecting cells, infects more and more nodes of
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their brain until all they ever think about is the urban monoculture and needing to spread it.
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And then eventually they just end up like breaking down and screaming. Like when one of those insects
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is infected by like an insect that controls its mind and like eats it from the inside and they get
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to the stage where they're just bloated and filled with like worms. That's what they are when they're
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like at GC, the game conference this last year, all of the like people was dyed-haired, went outside
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and screamed at the sky. And it was just like a great, to me, example of just like total mental
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breakdown. Nothing is left of the host. All right. I'm not talking to that thing in your head.
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I'm talking to Skara. Nothing of the host survives. Your friend had a feeble mind.
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But nothing of the host survives. And I think that this is true. You know, once you're this eaten
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is very hard to ever come back. And I think that this is why a lot of lefties in the media that
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they produce, like we were talking this morning about how good 30 Rock was when compared to
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Unbreakable to Kimmy Schmidt, even though it had the same team. And I think it was 30 Rock,
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the brainwatt hadn't eaten as much as them. They were able to have like really cool and aspirational
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conservative figures like Jack Donaghy in it or like, you know, the team.
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They made fun of them, but they made fun of everyone. And I think they were still able to
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acknowledge the existence of and have the presence of conservative figures. Whereas it got to this point
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where like the mere presence of a conservative figure, even if they were the source of ridicule,
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was considered untouchable. I mean, you saw the same in Parks and Rec as well, where there was
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Yeah, Ron Swanson. You wouldn't have a Ron Swanson in modern progressive media.
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Yeah. And he was played by a progressive actor.
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Well, remember that progressives can't, and we did an episode on this recently,
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they really struggled to mentally model conservatives.
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Well, and that's, but I feel like there's something that degraded because clearly before
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And yeah, and in addition to being unable to mentally model conservatives, they also,
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in conservatives show a great deal of empathy for liberals, but liberals show very little
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empathy for conservatives. And so I think that it's just sort of as the brain rot eats them more
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and more. I think that this is part of what we're seeing with the Wachowski effect, which I've,
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I've talked about before where you'll have a, like a great game designer or a great writer,
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like the people who did like the matrix, they get trans surgery and then everything they do
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sucks after that. But I think part of it can just be getting more and more into this culture
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that prevents you from mentally modeling others as part of it. The reason why the urban monocultural
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virus has to prevent you from modeling others is that if you could, you would be much more likely
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to leave it. You would see how imperialistic it is. And its goal is that the colonizer's flag,
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this new perverse version of the pride flag is over every country in the world. You know,
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they want one day this to be on top of every mosque and every establishment in Africa. They want a true
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global monoculture as the outcome of this, because that's how the monoculture motivates them to go out
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and convert people because they're not motivating and reproducing. It's a faster way for a culture
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to spread, but obviously it'll eventually burn itself out. I almost think of it as like a wildfire
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that's burning through the human population right now and just extinguishing huge swaths of it.
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Um, sad, but you know, this is where we are. Yeah. As the tenor of content and media coverage have
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become more negative and alarmist, so have the perceptions of sociopolitical issues among young
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liberal females and males as shown in figure 31. Young liberals, especially liberal females, have
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become much more socially and politically conscious in the past few years. For instance, the share of
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liberals who say that they frequently think about the, quote, social problems of the nation and the
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world, end quote. Imagine if somebody said that to you on a date. I think a lot about the social
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problems of the nation and the world. I feel like that's such a red flag. Has reached record highs,
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as has the share who say they are working to, quote, correct social and economic inequalities,
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end quote, is extremely important to them. Concerns about race relations and environment have also surged
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while changing remarkably little among conservatives of both sexes. So that's really fascinating. So if you're
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looking at this on, on screen here, the far left category is the female liberal, where you just see
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it like shooting up during the first Trump presidency. Interesting. Yeah. During the Biden
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presidency, they're like, oh, I don't care anymore. And second Trump presidency, like, ah. Trump
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on a graph. So no, it's just constant, like, freaking out. I bet right now it's off the charts for
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them. And with the male liberals, it goes up a lot here. But with the conservatives, what's interesting
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is there are periods where it has gone up, but it seems to actually be going down a lot on average,
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especially things like I often worry about pollution and climate change. And I've noticed
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this was in our circles. Like, people don't care about the climate as much as they used to.
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Well, I think that after so many, I mean, in our case, decades of being told that the end is nigh.
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It's not just that, but it's so clear that like, oh, okay, so we panicked about it. And you had
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control of the UN and you had control of the US government, you had control of the World Health
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Organization. And you did the Paris Accords and nothing was achieved, right? Like, apparently,
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it's still a major issue. We shut down everything during COVID. And we didn't, we only incrementally
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met the carbon reduction that's expected every year that one year. Like, obviously, it's not doable.
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And, and, and so I think for a lot of people, they're like, well, what, you just let a large
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number of species die? And I'm like, yeah, sure. Like, it's happened before. We are not the first
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species to cause a, many liberals, it's so weird to me when they were like, well, there's been mass
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extinctions before, but like, no animal has ever caused a mass, I'm like, yes, they have. Like,
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have you not heard of the great oxidation event? Like, are you just like, you're so proudly uneducated.
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It's actually happened in two of the major mass extinctions. It was caused by a life form.
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So yeah, it has happened before. It's the thing that living life does.
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Yeah. Humans will find a way to survive without nature. Humans won't find a way to survive without
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humans, you know? So it's, it's one of these things where I'm like, I'd like nature to be around,
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but it's really more of a aesthetic concern. I'm much more interested in just categorizing its,
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its DNA. So it can be recreated at a future date, you know, see what these dire wolves are creating
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now. You, these science downers and they bum me out so much. Like when they made the dire wolves
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and somebody was like, oh, it's just like putting them in costumes. They only changed like a few of
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the, it's like, come on, man. Like you, this, this is literally. Specifically what they're complaining
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about is that they're not genetically identical. Like they don't have the exact DNA of historical dire
00:23:41.540
wolves because instead what they did was they altered them to phenotypically be what we can
00:23:47.360
guess is the same as dire wolf DNA using. Well, yeah, they use dire wolf DNA to see kind of what
00:23:54.120
was going on, but then used different interventions to adjust it to like 20% bigger, to make them all
00:24:00.120
white, to do a bunch of other things. And they were not. So there's something that some people have
00:24:04.980
tried to do in the past, which is make genetic changes to an animal, not using the original animal's
00:24:10.180
DNA just to make it look more like an ancestral phenotype. So, so maybe trying to breed cows
00:24:15.520
larger because of it's a larger form of cow in the past. This has been done with a few species.
00:24:19.700
That is not what the dire wolf thing was. I misspoke here. This was what the dire wolf thing
00:24:24.180
was still incredibly impressive. Nonetheless. Yeah. This is a bit like somebody coming up to Jurassic Park and
00:24:31.340
Oh, that's just a big chicken. It's just been phenotypically changed to look like a brontosaurus.
00:24:50.180
Like, what are you talking about? Why are you guys so impressed with this? It's like some people have a
00:24:55.640
compulsive need to erase all of the wonder from the world in a human achievement. There was a woman who we
00:25:01.400
had on our show before recently in relation to AI and she had a moment like this where she did an episode
00:25:05.840
saying AI is not conscious and it's never going, we're never going to get AGI. And she used this proof, this
00:25:12.920
study that we might go onto in another episode where it showed that AI didn't know how it came to the
00:25:20.440
decisions that it was coming to. And I was like, I wish you had watched our AI is probably conscious
00:25:25.080
in the same way we are video in that we show that humans work that exact same way. Yeah. Like this is,
00:25:31.640
this is only going to convince us more that AI is human. It's literally not only do humans work in the
00:25:37.460
same way, but if you ask a human, if they work in that way, they'll say, no, I don't work in that way.
00:25:42.320
And they will make up fake memories of how they thought through something, watch our, you know,
00:25:48.040
stop pretending humans are sapient video or LLMs or, or, or, you know, function the same way the
00:25:53.160
human brain does. But anyway, so, so not only that, but like a human, they will make up having how,
00:26:00.680
how they got to their end state. So literally every part of that process is exactly the way that a human
00:26:05.940
brain appears to do it. And then people can be like, well, I remember specific intermediary steps in my
00:26:11.240
thinking. And it's like, well, that's just because we don't have AIs looking at their own ledgers right
00:26:16.080
now, but it's not that we can't, if you've ever used like a deep search on Grok or on Google,
00:26:20.820
you can see where it will output the various parts of it sought. You could have the AI have access to
00:26:26.800
that. We just choose to not give it access to that. That's about how we're handling its memory.
00:26:32.260
We're basically erasing the point where it was making markers of what it was thinking
00:26:37.460
that we would otherwise have in our own heads. So I just find that to be like, some people are just
00:26:42.660
so determined to not see the wonder in the world. It makes me sad. But anyway, back to the topic at
00:26:49.580
hand. Trends in sociopolitical awareness among 12th graders by ideology and sex. So we just went over
00:26:56.320
that. I didn't notice it was 12th graders. That's sad. All right. So despite the significant
00:27:01.500
educational socioeconomic advancements that women have achieved since the 1950s, figure 32 further
00:27:06.980
shows that liberals now perceive greater discrimination against women in various
00:27:10.720
contexts, including in assessing higher education than ever recorded. We've got over this another
00:27:16.540
episode and it's just insane. They think women are more discriminated against now than they were like
00:27:22.100
10 years ago, 20 years ago. Concurrently, the share of female liberals who think their sex will prevent
00:27:28.540
them from obtaining their desired careers, quote unquote, somewhat or quote unquote, a lot shot up by more
00:27:34.720
than 30 points between 2012, 36 percent in 2019. Sixty seven percent.
00:27:44.020
In contrast, if they've changed at all, perceptions of discrimination against women are lower among
00:27:49.700
conservatives of both sexes today than they were in the 1970s, which is accurate. Like the conservatives
00:27:54.760
seem to be broadly accurate here. They think that women are less discriminated against as time goes on,
00:27:58.600
where progressives just have this shoot up out of nowhere in 2020, 2012. That's where this number just
00:28:03.340
like shoots up the female liberal. What's interesting is that the male liberal shoots up and then like
00:28:08.960
goes back down. It's still fairly low. People are conservatives going down every time. But this is...
00:28:14.540
And 2012 was Gamergate, right? Like we sort of...
00:28:25.400
14? Anyway. But yeah, this is... Oh, interesting. Okay. So this is... Remember how we had that like
00:28:34.680
Yeah, Gamergate was 2014, by the way. You're right. Yeah.
00:28:36.820
We're seeing the same thing here. It's when they interacted with online culture, this new
00:28:41.200
memetic virus. It's when their perception of reality shot to hell.
00:28:45.920
Hmm. All downstream of Tumblr. Tumblr gets attacked and then everything changed. The Tumblrina's
00:28:55.940
attacked and now everyone thinks they're a dog. I didn't know this, but they're like... I thought
00:29:01.380
like the dog and furry stuff in school was like completely fake, but there was like this great
00:29:05.360
video of kids protesting outside of school because furries were being allowed to like walk around
00:29:10.620
school and like bite the other kids and kids were getting like sent to like detention if
00:29:15.840
they like kicked them away or like they... The kids weren't even allowed to wear costumes on
00:29:20.060
Halloween's, but the furries were allowed to on a daily basis. But it was because the principal's
00:29:23.740
daughter was a furry, apparently. That's why she... Oh, dear. Well, that sounds like one crazy
00:29:28.800
isolated case. Most of the instances of furry fear that I've heard of have ultimately been
00:29:34.680
discounted somewhat or... Yeah, I'm very much like chill out about furries, people.
00:29:40.360
Like... Yeah, like whatever. Kids are weird. Like... And there, you know, I remember there were the
00:29:45.080
kids, at least in my high school, who like... There was one kid who insisted on wearing a vampire cape
00:29:51.060
to school every day. You know, we didn't make a big deal out of it. We didn't give them a litter box
00:29:55.640
or like some blood to suck. We just let them wear a cape. Did you remember the trend where everyone
00:30:00.360
thought they were vampires for a while? Like psychic vampires and stuff like this? No one... No one in my
00:30:05.340
school, I think, actually. No one in my school did, but I saw it online. You guys are missing the best
00:30:10.460
trends from internet history. This was like early internet. There were all these like communities
00:30:14.560
for them and everything, and they're like... Oh, yeah, this is big. I had like friends who
00:30:19.720
practiced what they believed to be Wiccan things. I did, too. I did, too. Yeah. Yeah, but not...
00:30:25.440
I remember one, I was like, okay, watch. I'm gonna make the wind blow. And she's like,
00:30:29.620
we've got to say super sill. And then like a gust would come after like a little bit. She'd be like,
00:30:34.060
see, I did it. I was like, okay, okay, okay. I guess I shouldn't be surprised if these people
00:30:41.920
were more susceptible to mimetic viruses. Yeah. Do you want to see the history of Wiccanism that
00:30:46.380
it was all basically made up in the 1920s? You can go into our video on that. It's pretty
00:30:49.940
interesting, actually. Very entertaining. Other data similarly revealed high degrees of
00:30:55.280
use pessimism about the prospects of success for women and racial minority groups in contemporary
00:31:00.080
American society. For example, a 2023 study released by Skeptic Research Center observed
00:31:05.340
that 49% of female and 34% of male Gen Z correspondents agreed that women in the United
00:31:11.060
States have no hope for success because of sexism. Because of now? 4%? Yeah, in 2023,
00:31:18.940
women make up like the vast... What do they think is happening to women? They make more money than
00:31:25.400
men do at these age ranges. It's worse than regular discrimination because they are doing
00:31:33.160
it while being ungrateful. Yeah, it's just the worst. That is really bad.
00:31:38.940
Hey, at least they're going extinct and hate themselves. They could be doing this and having
00:31:44.040
a grand time of it, right? You know? While the rates of agreement were comparable among millennials,
00:31:50.740
44.5% and 36.8%, they dropped substantially for Gen X, female, male, 23.9% and Boomer, 25.9%,
00:31:59.260
15.6% correspondents. Further, as in the MTF data, they also show a marked political divide with 51.8%
00:32:08.180
of very liberal correspondents agreeing with the statement and 23.2% of very conservative
00:32:12.420
correspondents. Not. So, even within very conservative correspondents, 23.2% in 2023
00:32:19.160
agreed with the statement that women in the United States have no hope of success because of sexism.
00:32:25.360
Ha ha ha. Oh. Is this just rover stuff? I don't know. I don't know. These people are mentally,
00:32:35.980
as we know now, like this isn't tied to reality. Now we're going to get to where we break this out
00:32:40.880
because this chart I found to be the most interesting. Okay. I can figure 33 here, okay?
00:32:45.460
Okay. If media-driven increases in the adoption of woke bias-centered narratives of inequality have
00:32:52.400
contributed to liberal conservative differences in mental health, such differences can shrink
00:32:56.100
considerably when woke beliefs were held constant. Supporting this hypothesis, figure 33, which uses
00:33:01.860
data from the 2022 cooperative election study, shows that a force item index of racial wokeness
00:33:08.040
alone accounts for more than nearly half, 0.5 SD, conservative liberal difference in self-related
00:33:15.340
mental health. Okay. What am I looking at here? I'll explain after I get to the end of this because
00:33:20.800
it's a little hard to interpret. Okay. Yeah. So, reflective religiosity alone accounts for just under
00:33:24.840
a third of this gap. So, half of the gap is accounted for by wokeness, but a third is accounted for by
00:33:31.760
a lack of religion. So, wokeness is more damaging to an individual than not having religion. Racial
00:33:38.440
wokeness is more mentally damaging than not having religion, but only by a degree, not like dramatically
00:33:45.120
more damaging. That's interesting because, yeah, I think a lot of people turn, of course, to progressive
00:33:51.900
mainstream urban monoculture culture because they have abandoned their inherited cultures, but you have
00:33:58.540
to fill that void to make do with the complexities of modern society, and yet this is making things
00:34:06.180
worse. Yeah. So, what you see here, which is absolutely fascinating, is if you, and so every
00:34:12.620
line here that you're seeing, like every set of graphs, is how much of a difference this makes with
00:34:18.780
the far on the left one, conservative versus liberal, the middle one being female conservative
00:34:23.700
versus female liberal, and the far right one being male conservative versus male liberal. But you can see
00:34:28.100
there's really not that much of a difference in here. It affects them all about equally. But what
00:34:32.240
you see here is if you adjust for, one, religiosity I find really interesting because it appears that
00:34:39.540
religiosity has more, or not having it, is more damaging to females than it is to males. Which makes
00:34:47.500
sense because females often go to like crazy other things when they're not religious, like Wiccan and
00:34:51.960
like crystals and stuff like that. Whereas males typically go to atheism or agnosticism, which is a
00:34:57.200
much more mentally healthy way to deal with reality. Maybe women are more consensus building and like
00:35:04.300
community oriented, it would seem. So, the lack of community that comes with strong culture
00:35:10.400
would be felt more by someone who is more inclined to community, no?
00:35:16.000
Yeah. So, if you, if you adjust for all covariates though, and this is really interesting. So,
00:35:23.100
specifically here this is adjusting for racial wokeness, religiosity, and self-rated physical
00:35:29.200
health demographic socioeconomic indicators. You get between conservatives and liberals almost the same
00:35:36.160
rate to the mental health. So, it really is entirely explained by racial wokeness and religion.
00:35:44.000
Wow. That's, that's almost all of it. Because that's the pink graph here. It's only a little
00:35:48.320
bit higher than, than putting in everything. That's crazy.
00:35:56.160
The relationship between attitudinal wokeness and poor mental health outcomes has also been found
00:36:01.760
outside the US with a recent Finnish study showing that agreement with the statement, quote, if white
00:36:07.360
people have on average higher income than black people, it's because of racism, has the strongest
00:36:12.320
correlation with anxiety, depression, and general unhappiness. Oh.
00:36:17.680
One that's like, obviously a wrong statement. Like, there's a bunch of other things that could
00:36:21.360
cause that. But people who are in the urban monoculture, one of the beliefs of the urban
00:36:25.200
monoculture is that people aren't different. No one else believes that people aren't different.
00:36:28.000
Everyone else is like, yeah, there's like cultural differences between people at the very least.
00:36:33.280
And it could be something in black culture that's causing this, this disparity. But they cannot say
00:36:38.000
that within the urban monoculture. In the urban monoculture, everyone is exactly the same,
00:36:41.840
which is ironic because then they're like, diversity has value. And it's like, why does
00:36:44.720
the diversity have value if everyone's exactly the same? Like, we're not having different perspectives
00:36:48.960
and proficiencies to the table in predilections. Why, why do I need an equal number of men and women
00:36:54.800
in my company? Why not just have all men? Presumably it's exactly the same as having an equal number
00:36:58.160
of men and women. Presumably it's exactly the same. Like having, having only white people is
00:37:02.240
presumably exactly the same as having some black people. So there's no benefit to it. Like, why would I do that?
00:37:06.240
And I found that really interesting. That is really interesting.
00:37:11.040
All right. Now we're going to go back to some other parts of the study. So we're getting out
00:37:15.200
of the area that I found the most interesting in the study. Importantly, as depicted in figure 19 below,
00:37:21.040
sourced from three large and recent studies of US adults, some of the same personality facets that
00:37:26.640
distinguish girls and boys similarly distinguish liberals from conservatives. This is likely why we're
00:37:32.080
seeing them split into two different camps. Yeah. Those deviating political divides.
00:37:36.720
Yeah. Women are more voting progressive and men are more voting conservative. Similar to the pattern
00:37:40.720
observed in sex differences, we see the withdrawal aspect of neuroticism, encompassing depression and
00:37:47.520
anxiety facets, the openness aspect of openness slash intellect, encompassing aesthetic sensitivity and
00:37:53.680
emotionality, and the compassion aspect of agreeableness, encompassing facets like fear,
00:37:58.720
mindedness and empathetic concern are all positively linked with a liberal left wing political orientation.
00:38:04.720
Conversely, the facets of conscientiousness and certain facets of extroversion, such as assertiveness,
00:38:11.280
are associated with conservative right wing political orientation. And you have a graph here showing that
00:38:16.560
because girls and liberals tend to score higher than boys and conservatives on key factors of
00:38:20.560
neuroticism, openness and agreeableness, all of which are positively associated with justice sensitivity.
00:38:24.880
It follows that girls and liberals would also likely score higher on justice sensitivity. Data presented
00:38:31.120
in figure 20, drawn from separate studies of US adults, supports this expectation. Across studies on
00:38:37.440
most, if not all four aspects of justice sensitivity, observer, beneficiary, perpetrator, victim,
00:38:42.960
women score significantly higher than men, and liberals score significantly higher than conservatives.
00:38:48.080
The bottom row of figure 20 additionally shows these ideological differences
00:38:52.400
hold within each sex was female liberals outscoring female conservatives and male liberals outscoring
00:38:58.240
male conservatives. That is really fascinating because this, actually I want to go down and take
00:39:05.680
like what is justice sensitivity. Taken together, the data shows that girls and liberals tend to score
00:39:11.200
significantly higher than boys and conservatives on personality traits associated with mental health
00:39:14.720
challenges and significantly lower on those associated with psychological resilience and stability.
00:39:20.080
Oh really? This is a funny thing. Like I, as a guy can be like, girl, be crazy. And they'll be like,
00:39:26.480
and I'd get canceled for that. I'd be like, no, like biologically girls are like kind of crazy.
00:39:31.600
Okay. And, and here, this is a research paper saying this data shows that girls tend to score
00:39:37.680
significantly higher than boys on personality traits associated with mental health challenges and
00:39:43.200
significantly lower on those associated with psychological resilience and stability.
00:39:46.720
So unfortunately they are less continuous and more neurotic.
00:39:53.120
In other words, some of the traits that help explain the poor mental health outcomes of girls
00:39:57.280
relative to boys may also be relevant to explaining the poor mental health outcomes of liberals relative
00:40:02.000
to conservatives. In fact, this vulnerability in girls may be tied at least in part to their
00:40:05.760
disproportionate alignment with liberal left-wing ideological orientations. And here, what you can see
00:40:11.280
interesting is digital connectivity among adults, 18 to 29, this is for 12th graders, a comparison of
00:40:16.480
internet usage with political orientation and sex. And what you see here is liberals just use this stuff a
00:40:25.200
lot more than conservatives. Here, I'm going to think it's because of lower conscientiousness, they are
00:40:30.240
more susceptible to addiction. So they start using this stuff and they can't turn it off as easy.
00:40:35.760
Yeah. Well, and I mean, I think any sort of approach to addictive stimuli is going to be
00:40:46.720
people are less likely to recover from it if they are progressive because there's this progressive
00:40:51.360
attitude against removing in the moment pain. And the only way that you're going to get through
00:40:56.720
addiction is to remove in the moment pain, or I mean, is to endure in favor of long-term benefit,
00:41:03.520
right? And here, I'll put up two more graphs, which show the same thing. I'm not going to say it
00:41:07.360
again, but it just shows liberals using this much, much more than conservatives. Now, this was really
00:41:13.680
interesting. Differences in emotional responses to social media content and interactions, as well as
00:41:19.280
attention to certain types of content may be equal, if not more relevant to understanding the sex and
00:41:24.240
ideological gaps in mental health. First, higher average levels of neuroticism, empathetic concern,
00:41:29.600
and justice sensitivity among girls and liberals would likely make them more sensitive to negative
00:41:33.360
social evaluations, aesthetic, moral, intellectual, when interacting with others on social media.
00:41:38.880
While this proposition cannot be directly tested, figure 24 present suggestive evidence drawn from
00:41:45.040
MTF survey on 12th graders. Specifically, girls, irrespective of political orientation and liberals,
00:41:51.360
regardless of sex, reported significantly higher levels of concern about how they were perceived by
00:41:56.160
others. Interestingly, during a 2017 to 2022, the share reporting concern has grown 13 to 17 points
00:42:04.080
among the liberals and 12th graders of both sexes, and 12 points among conservative females. In stark
00:42:10.400
contrast, no net change is observed among conservative males, who, as we've seen, tend to be fair comparatively
00:42:17.040
better on base indicators of mental health and report the lowest rates of frequent social media use.
00:42:22.640
So this is a grade of within 12th graders. I often worry about how other people react to me. And what
00:42:27.680
you're seeing here is liberals just being way more concerned about this and also women being way more
00:42:33.840
concerned about this. But interestingly, that concern has gone up over time. That makes sense. Again, the
00:42:40.720
progressive subculture in general is much more focused on conformity, consensus building, etc. Whereas the
00:42:48.800
renegade sovereignty, libertarian-leaning culture is now the conservative culture.
00:42:54.480
Well, I actually would think it might be something else. It might be even a desire to want to confirm makes it
00:43:00.640
easier to force you to be a liberal. Because liberalism today, being the culture of the urban monoculture, the
00:43:05.280
dominant cultural group, is going to be much more conformist. You're going to be afraid to stand up
00:43:11.280
against that. And so if you have this deep desire to confirm and be approved by other people, that's
00:43:17.680
going to happen to you. It's the core thing that it uses. If you look at the urban monoculture,
00:43:23.760
it gets you to fall in line by screaming racist or something like that, or trans foe,
00:43:30.000
whenever you say something that is dangerous to the urban monoculture's proliferation.
00:43:38.000
To continue here, recall that neuroticism, openness and agreeableness are all predictive
00:43:43.040
and conscientiousness negatively predictive of the reported frequency of encountering social media and
00:43:48.400
content that triggers feelings of depression and loneliness. So all of these negative traits are
00:43:52.640
predictive of how effective the social media things are going to be at hurting you. And liberals go into
00:43:59.120
spaces where the content that hurts them is more frequent, which is really interesting. And we saw
00:44:03.680
like they do scroll more. And we just know this from from liberal spaces. Conservatives actually seem
00:44:08.560
to like in terms of the content, they like content that affirms their pre-existing beliefs a lot more
00:44:13.360
instead of just being more than conservatives. I just feel like that's a human thing.
00:44:16.640
With conservatives, it's affirms their existing beliefs and look at the other side getting their
00:44:21.680
comeuppance. Like videos of leftists crying after an election or leftist women who left guys, you know,
00:44:28.240
ending up sad as adults or, you know, I always tell some progressives like that too. I've been seeing
00:44:34.000
because, you know, I follow both a lot more than you do. I think you're like, like, oh,
00:44:38.240
not my face. Like a leopard wouldn't eat my face or something.
00:44:40.800
Well, no, now they're like MAGA people are now regretting their choice to vote for Trump because
00:44:49.280
What MAGA people is this? Like, I actually, I don't know. I haven't watched the videos,
00:44:52.800
but I've seen the title cards and they're, they're trying to make this argument. And I think
00:44:56.880
maybe the same thing, the same reaction would be had by a progressive when they're like,
00:45:01.200
what single cat lady is crying because she's all alone. She's happy, you know? So
00:45:07.440
I don't know. I don't see that as plausible as I love it. I also see progressives like freaking out,
00:45:14.080
like Trump's putting in tariffs. Trump's firing woke, like, like people who are involved in DEI. I'm
00:45:18.960
like, yeah, he told us he was going to do all of that when he was campaigning out of the blue.
00:45:23.600
This isn't like a surprise. This is, this is what he was running on. If he didn't do it,
00:45:29.120
it would be a sign of a lack of integrity. Anyway, this is the plan. Given these relationships
00:45:34.480
and the sex and ideological differences in personality traits, we would expect women and
00:45:38.240
liberals to report encountering such content at significantly higher frequency than men and
00:45:43.520
conservatives data graph and figure 25 confirms that they do. So I'll just go straight to
00:45:48.800
the graph here and we can talk through it. Sex and ideological differences in reported frequency
00:45:54.800
encountering social media content that triggers negative internalizing emotions, men versus women
00:46:00.400
and liberals versus conservatives. Again, you just see that they're encountering this stuff at way higher
00:46:04.720
rates. And I think again, they do seem to seek it out a bit more. The, the conservatives are winning
00:46:10.560
and look at how bad they're doing is like a common liberal thing. So, and then here we have a graph.
00:46:18.640
That shows trends in relation between daily screen time and negative mental health outcomes
00:46:24.000
among high school students by sex. And it's looking at unaliving ideation, all three tapes combined,
00:46:31.120
mental depressive episodes, suicide plans. And you see just this stuff going up slightly, but not that
00:46:38.080
much. Um, and so what I would actually take away from this is, and I seem to remember looking at the
00:46:43.520
debt on this and said it was nearly statistically not relevant. So it is not the internet that's causing
00:46:49.200
the rise in unaliving rates. It is progressivism or some, some mean that's in the environment that
00:46:56.800
people who are LGBT are more exposed to and women are more exposed to and progressives are more exposed
00:47:05.520
You know, if it's everybody who walked in that particular room, like fell out sad, like,
00:47:19.760
no, I will note here, this is where you get the, the, the trends of young adult mental health and
00:47:25.600
smartphone, social media use, and you see it all going up. And so you get this perception of,
00:47:31.040
oh, it's, it's smartphone stuff. But what we're seeing in the other data is no,
00:47:35.440
it's progressive stuff, which is being transmitted through smartphones. If you're a conservative and
00:47:39.440
you have one as this, you're just not getting as big a negative effect or potentially any negative
00:47:42.960
effect at all. Here, I note a graph that says trends in religious importance and attendance among
00:47:50.880
12th graders by political ideology and sex. Now, this is interesting because what we're seeing here is
00:47:59.200
female and male liberals. It's going like way down, but generally speaking, female conservatives are
00:48:06.720
much more religious than male conservatives. The orange line is female conservatives and the red line
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is male conservatives. So that's fascinating. Whereas it's actually true with liberals as well. Male
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liberals are less religious than female liberals. The blue line is male liberals. The purple line is
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female liberals. That's, that's really interesting. Anyway, Simone, we are going to head off this and
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oh, I guess I can do the last graph here. And these are the effects of the big five personality domains
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on the frequency of encountering social media content that triggers negative positive emotions.
00:48:39.440
Oh, wow. Who knew that'd be a correlation? That's interesting. Yeah. So extroversion is like
00:48:44.640
middling. You get a openness and intellect causes seeing negative things more. Neuroticism is very
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big in terms of seeing negative things. I guess that's not surprising. Agreeableness, slightly big,
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but not that much. And really negative in seeing these things is conscientiousness. So conscientiousness
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is just really protective. Neuroticism, really bad. But neuroticism is higher in women. I'm sorry.
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I think it's so canceled for that because I've read a graph.
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I think we all know it. Like, yeah, women's odds of depression, adolescents are higher. It's just,
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yeah, this is, it's known. I'm not using gamer words anymore on the show, so I can just say bees be
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crazy. Yes. Because I'm so responsible now. Women have a different constitution. They're inclined to
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rotundities. Hysteria. You know, it turned out that that whole needing to like masturbate women
00:49:40.880
thing to get rid of hysteria turned out to be like a thing that was made up by like one person.
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You mean it wasn't a widespread treatment? No. It was like one historian lady who was
00:49:54.000
like a feminist wanted to like get one over on her boss and like made it up. Like the eating spiders
00:49:59.760
meme? That's hilarious. Yes, it was a number of spiders. Wow. Let's, there you go.
00:50:07.360
I can see why it's spread. It's very catchy. It's hilarious. Yeah. But wow, that's, that's
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incredible. All right. Love you to Desimone. I love you too, Malcolm. Let's not go crazy. Okay.
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I'm worried about, you're the one who's going to go crazy. We've seen the data.
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I've already gone crazy. So we don't have to worry about me. Yeah. You can't doubt. Oh,
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you could go double crazy. I can. Oh, we're going to be talking about a lot of grass.
00:50:33.600
Yeah. The new, the new Twitter thread I sent you was about a psychologist, a researcher who wanted to
00:50:39.360
test the ability of psychologists to diagnose conditions. It's, it's quite, it's quite interesting
00:50:47.120
because he's a famous case study, Simone. I'm very familiar with it. Okay. So you know about that one
00:50:50.560
where he like sent in normal professionals, like a painter and other stuff too.
00:50:54.240
Yeah. People haven't covered it enough recently. So like, I'm totally okay with
00:51:03.680
Thank you for the graphs you're sending. I love me some graphs. Actually, I don't, I think that
00:51:10.160
I'm not really able to read graphs. Well, as you can tell, you may have noticed a pattern
00:51:16.160
where I try to show you a graph and you're like,
00:51:17.840
And I'm like the graph, there are lines trending.
00:51:21.520
And after this point, I'll just maybe describe the graphs to you.
00:51:26.320
Cause I won't understand them anyway. It's because I'm a woman, Malcolm. Why are you trying?
00:51:33.120
Well, I could probably find some graphs about that.
00:51:40.480
They're all your favorite car? Yeah. Wow. And look at this, Toasty. When I turn it over,
00:51:48.000
there's a bunch of blank spaces for more cars. You can keep your car safe in here.
00:51:52.480
Put it up. Put it up, Mom. Okay. Well, open it up. Look. One, two.
00:52:01.280
We open it because it was upside down in there. And now they're all cute.
00:52:13.840
This one's sweet and this one's blue and that one's red. See, this one's red.
00:52:19.840
See, this one's red. Wow. And this one's red. And this one is green.
00:52:26.800
And this one is green. This one, that's like Stacy's gray car.
00:52:40.880
Yeah, now you have the coolest car container to keep your car safe.
00:52:45.680
Yeah, this is the truck to hold all of the cars. This is the truck to hold all of my cars so they can be safe.