Based Camp - Society Fd Men： Some Men Are Fing Back

00:00:00.000 Hello, Malcolm. I'm excited to be speaking with you today because I've got something for the

00:00:06.200 gentlemen in the audience. You know what? All these people, these women screwing your lives 1.00

00:00:12.340 over, the state screwing your life over, employers passing you over for their diversity and whatnot

00:00:19.780 hires, choosing women over you, even though you show more merit. Well, some men are fighting back.

00:00:26.640 It's more than just MGTOW. I would say it's MGTOW 2.0. They are basically doing what women do, 1.00

00:00:36.580 like welfare queens or explosive divorcee women, but better and more competently because, I don't 0.98

00:00:44.180 know, leave a man to do it and he'll do it better. But what I'm talking about today is two models of

00:00:53.040 men who are opting out of traditional breadwinning roles and instead relying on income from women and

00:00:59.240 the state. That is what we're talking about. We're talking about welfare kings.

00:01:03.160 How is this done? Can I do this?

00:01:05.900 We're going to go into it. Yeah, actually. I mean, yeah, well, I'm actually-

00:01:10.440 Do I need to knock up other women? 1.00

00:01:11.940 What your takeaways are here? Well, there are tactics. There are approaches. There are strategies.

00:01:17.220 You have to do this the right way. Honestly, we've done a number of Latin American episodes

00:01:20.580 right now. I'd say that this is the Latin American male strategy.

00:01:24.460 Oh, no. Actually, no. The two cases I'm going to give actually are Muslim and Black.

00:01:29.620 Oh, the Muslim one is really- 1.00

00:01:30.880 We got to mix it up here.

00:01:32.640 No, but hold on. I want to talk about the Latin American thing because it is actually something

00:01:35.380 you see very frequently. Okay.

00:01:36.660 Something you see very frequently within the Latin American culture is a female breadwinner 0.83

00:01:40.220 and a male sort of lazy stay-at-home.

00:01:43.640 That's true, actually. Yeah, I didn't even think to talk about that. Yeah, that's more like

00:01:48.260 the trad wife model inverted. That is fair. And I would say that could be its own episode. So maybe 0.99

00:01:54.880 comment below if you want us to explore that. But no, we're-

00:01:58.820 I can just quickly explain why that happens, by the way.

00:02:01.600 Okay, go ahead.

00:02:02.820 But it's funny because everybody thinks of like, oh, fiery Latina or something like that. Not,

00:02:06.620 you know, Latina ends up supporting everyone. I think it's because they get so used to supporting 0.98

00:02:10.900 their wider family systems before the husband comes into the picture that they just see it as

00:02:16.160 another person that they're supporting. Oh. This whole just mother hen gone wild. Yeah.

00:02:24.300 It's like, of course I have to take care of you. This exasperated, like, oh, fine.

00:02:28.900 The exasperated Latina should be the actual Latina. 1.00

00:02:32.260 The beleaguered.

00:02:33.200 Oh, fine. Another person supporting.

00:02:35.540 Save you too. I mean, I feel like it's just also broadly female trope in among sort of responsible 0.75

00:02:43.440 parentified women, I guess. I don't know how else to put it. But I mean, I've seen this among other 0.97

00:02:49.540 people, even people that we know closely who are not. Is this why Latin dads don't run away?

00:02:56.440 Why you don't have a bunch of Latin kids being married in single family households? Because 1.00

00:02:59.780 they know they just stay around. Men come into the yard, you know, when you just let them do their 0.74

00:03:03.720 thing. But no, we're going to talk about welfare polygamists and welfare kings, or as some might

00:03:11.620 put it, welfare kings. But I think we should really be looking at this in the broader context

00:03:17.720 of some major themes that I see arising. I mean, obviously, like, one big theme is MGTOW. Like, you

00:03:25.620 know, sort of men who are like, so fed up about the system being rigged against them and women being

00:03:29.620 rigged against them. But I think that what's interesting now is we sort of, there are stages of grief, right?

00:03:35.280 And I think there are stages of MGTOW. You know, there's like, there's the red pill stage of like,

00:03:41.320 oh, well, all right, I'm going to game it. And I'm going to try and like, that's kind of like,

00:03:44.760 you know, still participating in the rat race, right? You know, it's also like, I feel like

00:03:48.880 there's something very capitalistic about like, original pickup artistry and red pillow mindset,

00:03:55.500 you know, it's like, well, I'm going to work and I'm going to be rich. And I'm going to spend plates

00:03:58.420 and I'm going to like, you know, do all this, right. And then then came a MGTOW, which is like, 0.82

00:04:03.660 no, I'm going to fully opt out. And I'm gonna sort of go like full monk mode, I'm going to improve

00:04:10.940 myself. I'm going to like go back to nature, maybe even like homestead or like live abroad in Thailand

00:04:16.240 and just like totally opt out of the system. Right. So it came from like girl boss lean in to 0.74

00:04:21.740 like fully like homestead opt out. And now we have like, you could almost, I would call this dark MGTOW

00:04:29.280 where it's like, no, I'm just going to like, the system has effed me over. Now I'm going to F the

00:04:36.400 system because one I can, and I'm smart enough and I know how to, and two, I, I deserve it. That's kind

00:04:44.100 of like the mindset of like, I hate this system. So of course I'm going to exploit it because almost

00:04:50.400 like, almost morally or ethically, it, they see it as justified. Like they're owed to something by this

00:04:57.260 system that is so terrible. So like, of course they're going to exploit it. Of course they're going

00:05:00.980 to not treat it with respect. And I think that's really interesting, but also I think this is really

00:05:05.700 important to discuss in the context of at the time of this recording, a lot of people are discussing

00:05:10.860 the Somali daycare fraud, but also like Somali autism services, fraud, Somali transportation fraud.

00:05:16.440 So they're just like how there was essentially an ethnic cartel that just how they're like the

00:05:21.580 Patel motels and their Vietnamese nail salons and like their, their ethnic immigrant groups in the 1.00

00:05:26.660 United States and in other countries that tend to build specializations around certain economic

00:05:30.740 models. It just so happens that Somalis in Michigan built economic models, exploiting state benefit 1.00

00:05:37.020 systems. And I think that that's really interesting. And a point that Asmigold has alluded to in his

00:05:43.000 coverage of this, and that we were going to allude to an episode we were going to do on these, but I'm

00:05:46.500 like, so many people have been covering the Somali thing. I just don't want to do it anymore. I'm bored 1.00

00:05:50.160 of it. Is it, this isn't a Somali thing. This is just, I mean, they found the Somali thing. The Somalis are 0.67

00:05:57.380 being highlighted now, but like, this is not, I mean, there, there are, there are groups of all types that are

00:06:03.340 exploiting these systems. And I think we should talk about some other groups and some other ways in which

00:06:08.560 these systems are exploited. And I actually, on a sort of third level of this, I think it's genuinely

00:06:14.160 interesting how people have inventively exploited welfare systems. I think, I think it's just in many ways, I'm

00:06:23.380 like, it's clever. Like you gotta, you gotta respect it. Like, wow. I mean, I, I, I love, I love clever

00:06:29.400 ways to save money. Malcolm knows all too painfully, like how, how much I gloat every single time we do

00:06:36.700 a family shopping thing. And like all the coupons that I've like scraped together show up on our

00:06:42.560 checkout screen. And I'm like dancing and he's like trying to hide, like as people stare at me in the

00:06:49.440 store. So I love savings. Like, so I'm like, wow, this is, how do I get in on this? How does it

00:06:55.300 work? How does it work? Just don't hate the player, hate the game, by the way. So let's, let's start

00:06:59.420 with welfare polygamists. And I, I can't believe why I didn't start to look into this earlier because 1.00

00:07:04.420 in all these different stories related to basically like egregious treatment of women by, by Muslim

00:07:11.460 communities, I heard about women ending up in these polygamous marriages to Islamic men who do take 0.99

00:07:18.040 multiple lives per Islamic law, AKA Mika, but only legally marry one wife and then use their various

00:07:25.280 wives, legal single mother status to get a lot of state assistance. So they might have up to four wives 0.91

00:07:34.180 and then, you know, three of them are getting state assistance. And this is actually pretty clever hack

00:07:41.920 because if you are, and we know this through pronatalist.org, we did this whole research that

00:07:48.020 we, we hired experts in, in like welfare services and, and government assistance services as specifically

00:07:56.140 for families to build guides to each state in the United States on like what programs can parents

00:08:01.960 possibly have access to? And it was a frustrating exercise because I thought maybe states had more

00:08:06.500 resources for all families, but really it's more like only if you are at or near the poverty line,

00:08:11.780 do you get services? But if you are at or near the poverty line in the United States,

00:08:16.280 especially as a woman, and especially as a parent, you actually get a lot. Like your life is super easy.

00:08:23.760 I mean, relatively speaking, I think like if you have friends with that and they live almost the way we

00:08:28.740 live in terms of quality. Oh, like materially, they have more luxuries than we do.

00:08:32.860 They have free healthcare. They have food assistance, both SNAP, which is sort of like a debit card

00:08:42.440 and WIC, which allows you to buy like specific foods on sort of a monthly basis. Then they also

00:08:48.900 get housing choice vouchers and they can even get short-term cash through various programs. And this

00:08:55.600 is huge. Like when our kids were exposed to rabies, we, we did tons of like calling around, how do we get a

00:09:02.020 rabies vaccine to them? Like we don't think they were a bit like, we don't think they were seriously

00:09:05.980 exposed, but we were like, you know, I mean, in a preponderance of caution, it would have been really

00:09:08.980 nice to get them rabies vaccines, but we don't have insurance. It offers really good coverage and

00:09:14.560 we're kind of in between jobs right now. So we were like, okay, how do we like afford this without a

00:09:20.740 $10,000 emergency room fee? And we ultimately just didn't take our kids into the emergency room

00:09:26.160 because that was the only way we could have gotten them rabies vaccines. Meanwhile, if we were on one

00:09:32.020 of these assistance programs, we could have just waltzed into an emergency room, like no problem.

00:09:37.000 And like, we, we know people who are on these programs who were like, I don't know, why don't

00:09:40.840 you just go to the hospital? We're like, we would never financially recover from that. And so the crazy

00:09:45.620 thing is like, if you're just, just an inch above, like you're making a hundred dollars too much,

00:09:50.480 suddenly your life is like actual poverty. Whereas in your, if you're in actual poverty,

00:09:55.580 you're actually living more like a middle-class American, which is crazy. So yeah, there's this

00:10:01.060 really weird thing going on in the United States. And so that's why this is extra clever. I could see,

00:10:07.080 you know, a family being like, oh, wait a second. Like this is, it makes a lot of financial sense

00:10:15.020 for us to do this. But also Malcolm, if I wanted to be evil and exploitative, I could divorce you.

00:10:22.660 I could leave you in our divorce settlement with all the liquid assets in wave alimony,

00:10:28.580 and then claim these benefits. I mean, arguably our kids would be better off that. That would be

00:10:35.660 fraud, Malcolm. That would be welfare fraud. And, but would we get caught if we were not public

00:10:40.900 figures, we probably wouldn't get caught. And that's the thing is if we're really divorced,

00:10:46.580 we're just living together. How is that welfare fraud? Okay. So I decided to look this up because

00:10:52.460 it just doesn't matter why I decided to look this up. So anyway, the way it actually works is it

00:10:57.520 depends on the state, but marital status matters a lot less than whether you're actually living

00:11:04.360 together. So if the wife was living in a separate house, apparently what matters the most is like 0.68

00:11:11.260 how you prepare your meals. If they are preparing meals for the entire family at the same time,

00:11:18.620 then you would still count as married for the, and if they're going out and buying food for everyone

00:11:24.780 at the same time, then you would still count as married. Because it could be argued that you,

00:11:29.840 you, you would be like, this would only happen if I had primary custody in a divorce. And if it was

00:11:34.920 found that like, Oh, but they're living together and he's, you know, like participating in all this

00:11:40.020 now, but keep in mind though. And like, we're public figures, we have documentary teams here. You're

00:11:44.100 like, we can't really hide things like that. But here's the thing. And people discovered this with

00:11:48.740 the, you know, Somali daycare fraud. No one is checking this, you know, states don't have like big 0.99

00:11:53.620 auditing teams to, to make sure like, Oh, you know, is this couple actually not living together?

00:11:59.840 And we know for a fact, actually, I think this should be part of the pronatalist community's way 0.99

00:12:04.080 of life. It's just so unethical, but like, also I get it. The state should be paying for rearing

00:12:09.780 kids. I mean, they should be because they're benefiting from the tax revenue. And that's our

00:12:13.760 whole thing is like, now the state, like the, the state has put the entire financial burden

00:12:18.940 for creating new productive taxpayers on the parents. Like, of course, parents aren't having kids

00:12:24.740 like, cause the parents aren't financially benefiting from the kids. They're

00:12:27.340 thinking about divorcing you right now. I'm so done with you, Simone. You're, and this isn't

00:12:32.760 even fraud. You just really annoyed me lately. So I'm, we need to have a conversation about

00:12:37.960 that.

00:12:38.280 But we know, we actually know a lot of people who are married, but not legally because they

00:12:45.160 do. And, and like, I'm talking like highly educated, rationalist, Silicon Valley people.

00:12:51.860 Like these are people who, you know, are like, I'm not talking like trailer trash. I'm not talking

00:12:58.100 like weird, you know, Islamic polygamous family, although many of them are polyamorous, but like

00:13:03.520 even just monogamous people are not getting married. So the wives can claim these welfare 0.98

00:13:09.100 benefits because it's just otherwise, like, honestly, it's just not worth it to have a

00:13:14.200 job or make money or anything like that. When, when, you know, like right now healthcare is

00:13:19.060 so expensive in the United States and food is getting more expensive and like, we're feeling

00:13:23.120 the squeeze too. And, and it's, it's all very, and like, this is very exasperating. I think

00:13:27.140 this is why antisemitism as we've discussed is on the rise as people. I mean, we're not,

00:13:31.640 as you pointed out, we're not giving meaningful aid in the larger scheme of things. Like, you know,

00:13:36.080 the number, like out of a hundred tax dollars, we pay the, the number of like cents that were

00:13:40.980 sending to Israel, like nothing, but still people resent seeing this, any, any aid going to, to,

00:13:46.960 to migrants or to foreign countries, because they're sitting here and they're like, I can't 1.00

00:13:51.200 afford anything. And then all these people around them are getting all these benefits. It's just not

00:13:54.800 fair. But anyway, so I just want to be clear that this is something that's been happening for a

00:13:59.380 really long time. And especially with Muslim, um, polygamists, like Islamic marriages. So in the 1.00

00:14:07.480 UK and like way, way back, we're talking like in 2011 investigation by the paragraph detailed how

00:14:13.800 some Muslim men in areas like Blackburn and Dewsbury maintain multiple wives in separate homes with each

00:14:19.760 additional wife registering as a single parent to access benefits. And then a similar report by the

00:14:24.220 spectator described a taxi driver with five wives from different countries, all claiming state

00:14:29.940 support. And they estimated that up to 20,000 such polygamous unions in the country were, were

00:14:36.280 actively taking social benefits under this kind of scheme. And I think this happened, especially,

00:14:41.800 I think this is another one of those kind of like ethnic cartel issues where like, you know,

00:14:46.160 certain communities discovered this, this clever hack. It's like that chase.

00:14:50.640 And I can make it run even better just by taking extra wives. So I mean, it would make sense to 1.00

00:14:56.020 divorce. Oh, here we go again. Oh my God. Why always when I outline episodes, like the conclusion

00:15:02.500 always, always like Malcolm becomes polygamous. You, you made that argument, not me. I made the 0.82

00:15:09.760 counter argument, but now I'm just like, this is great. I want to divorce me. This is, this is just

00:15:15.520 fantastic. Um, Muslim country. They're like, there, there are more options. I haven't even gotten to 1.00

00:15:21.100 the welfare King. So just like, but also like apparently this is, this is also an issue that

00:15:26.600 has been a problem in France since it's like as early as I could find is 2010 when there was this

00:15:32.080 high profile case that involved a Muslim butcher and four companions as, as they framed it charged with

00:15:38.320 welfare fraud after a traffic stop escalated into polygamy allegations. And there was this whole

00:15:44.220 national debate around it. And then a 2015 politifact check debunked a viral video claiming

00:15:49.560 that, um, that Michigan Muslims can list multiple wives for benefits. Like people were just claiming

00:15:53.840 that, but they did acknowledge that basically informal polygamy would enable these claims and it

00:15:58.720 absolutely does. And, and that also like it should be stated that other groups like Orthodox Jewish

00:16:05.280 families in New York or polygamous sex in Utah also do this. This isn't like a Muslim thing. And like I 0.92

00:16:10.500 said, like just, just monogamous couples we know who are highly educated. The first time I actually

00:16:15.480 heard about this, Malcolm was literally at Stanford university. When we spoke at one of the search fund

00:16:21.700 classes. Okay. One of the, one of the young women there was looking to get married and we had just

00:16:27.420 given this whole talk on like working as a married couple. And she's like, yeah, but like, I don't think

00:16:31.660 we're actually going to get legally married and I might just not be on payroll so that I can claim

00:16:36.240 that like unemployment benefits. And I'm like, what? And that was back in, I think like 2017.

00:16:44.740 Yeah. Stanford girl. Yes. She was a Stanford MBA student who was sitting in our class on search

00:16:52.520 funds. It was just like, I'm going to take welfare benefits. Because I mean, it's so normally her

00:16:59.800 community that she sees it as like a mandate that she does. Well, if you're making a cold

00:17:04.020 calculation on maximizing, you know, benefits to you, like, again, don't hate the players,

00:17:11.500 hate the game. Like the system is motivating people to do this, but let's get to the other

00:17:15.080 thing. And this, this actually came from. I want to, before you go to the other thing,

00:17:19.380 there, there is reason to intentionally abuse systems like this. This system shouldn't exist.

00:17:24.540 Yeah. And the more high profile this is, and the more people who do it, the sooner this gets taken

00:17:30.880 away. Like we, yeah, exactly. Cause this makes me so mad. It's a horrible system. It's a horrible

00:17:36.460 system. Yeah. Well, because it encourages people to be free riders and to not develop autonomy and

00:17:40.320 independence. And we're going to get into this in the next, in the next segment I have here,

00:17:45.800 which is inspired by a base camper. So I can't remember if I'm allowed to attribute him. So I'm just

00:17:51.960 going to read the comment without naming him, but he, he wrote my YouTube algorithm queued up the,

00:17:57.740 the linked video for me. It's a conversation between influencer and coach David Cooley and a

00:18:03.640 fellow named Jay Prince, self-proclaimed welfare Kang. Cooley gives Prince the air to explain what

00:18:10.700 this title means. You go work a slave. I get y'all checked. I get y'all raises, right? Y'all don't 0.95

00:18:16.840 got a freezer and freezer. Y'all can't eat multiple ice cream back to back, right? With

00:18:21.740 three kids, right? They care pay for them. Health care pay for them, right? 1.00

00:18:28.080 Prince goes on to describe to Cooley that he had impregnated a single or multiple who weren't

00:18:34.920 interested in raising the resulting children. He impregnated multiple women so that they would 0.98

00:18:39.620 gladly forfeit custody to him and how he sustains himself and his three daughters with government

00:18:44.820 handouts. The tale itself is amazing, but what do you both think of it with appropriate

00:18:50.180 modifications as a strategy for boosting fertility, just as you said, Malcolm. So I'm just going to

00:18:54.820 add to the base camper summary. Basically this, this guy identifies as a welfare King and he

00:19:00.140 deliberately exploits female led social systems and government benefits so that he can work basically 0.91

00:19:05.380 minimally. Like he does work, but like right under the cap. So like, he's like deliberately doing

00:19:10.880 this to like maximize benefits to himself. Like he'll work to get as much cash as he can get

00:19:15.600 through a job, but no more. So he maximizes government benefits. Then he lives cheaply.

00:19:19.940 And then he has as many children whose expenses taxpayers can cover as possible. And here's the

00:19:26.860 really interesting thing. He deliberately chooses to have children with women who would lose a custody 0.70

00:19:32.240 battle, which is like unhinged in, in some ways, like, cause one, like, do you want to have kids

00:19:37.960 who have like personality disorders? Like this is, I don't know, like, this seems like it would make

00:19:41.400 your parenting harder, but maybe that's just women who like, he knows would otherwise probably

00:19:46.560 produce good kids, but like, for whatever reason, like the courts would never give him custody.

00:19:50.780 But yeah, he chooses, he chooses to have his kids with women who are unfit parents. Cause as he points 0.91

00:19:56.840 out, the, the system is, is rigged against men when it comes to custody in most States.

00:20:01.540 And the, the, the, this coach who is interviewing him, like categorically condemns this behavior 0.81

00:20:10.360 for having the mentality of a black woman, he puts it. And then he also points out like the, 0.99

00:20:15.340 the, the action is morally equivalent to embracing failure and then rationalizing it as strategy or

00:20:21.840 justice, which this guy totally does because he's putting the burden of work on other people and

00:20:26.460 avoiding responsibility. And also because the Cooley argues that his ancestors sacrificed so that his

00:20:33.220 descendants could be free and to pursue opportunity, not so their defendant or descendants would, would

00:20:38.540 avoid work and live off handouts. And he also points out that if everyone did this, it, you know,

00:20:45.040 would kill the economy. Like not everyone can do this, so it shouldn't be done. And that government

00:20:50.020 welfare should be a safety net and help people get off their feet. And, but like, the whole point is

00:20:54.660 like this system shouldn't exist in the first place. It does hurt people. It does create cycles

00:20:59.620 of dependency. So to your point, the more people exploit this, the better. But what I think is

00:21:04.440 really interesting is, is, is this guy, this welfare King rejects the idea of building a career in

00:21:12.040 another man's empire. He's basically like, this is a system that is rigged against me. I'm never going

00:21:18.360 to win in this system. There's too much bias against me. I'm dealing with tons of systemic disadvantage.

00:21:24.660 And America fundamentally hates and disrespects blacks, black men. And, and he insists that 0.99

00:21:30.800 education and hard work are just not going to translate into real power for them. And I think

00:21:37.180 this is a message that probably resonates with a lot of men in America, not just black men, but I think

00:21:42.180 like many white men who are hearing increasingly like, we're just not, we're not going to hire white 0.99

00:21:46.540 men anymore. So like, I think men in many different positions are feeling just super fed up. And he

00:21:52.480 frames, this guy frames his lifestyle as a form of, and this is his wording, respirations,

00:21:59.620 which he, he's like, I, he says, I'm going to get my respirations in the ghetto way. He's just like,

00:22:05.680 super unapologetic. He's just like, he knows it's trashy what he's doing, but he describes

00:22:11.040 respirations as like street level reparations for centuries of black slave labor. And he argues that 0.76

00:22:16.960 men deserve a multi-decade break. Like just not, it's not even like, this is a black guy doing 1.00

00:22:23.380 this. Yes, it is a black guy doing this. And he also, he also praises women's entry into the 0.99

00:22:30.280 workforce for lightening standards and creating easy care jobs, like sort of like med tech roles

00:22:36.220 and things like that, which he sees as low effort, female typed work, and it benefits men like him.

00:22:41.160 Cause I think in some cases he's, he even gets alimony. And I think it's really interesting

00:22:45.480 if like men can't get jobs anymore, why not just like lean on like the women who can get the jobs. 1.00

00:22:52.820 And I think this sort of dovetails then with your noticing a Latin American male pattern where often

00:22:58.380 they're depending more consistently that, and they have like less consistent jobs than their wives. 1.00

00:23:04.500 And so they're more likely to depend on them because I mean, modern bureaucracies do favor women 1.00

00:23:09.520 as many of the writers we've referenced and various people that we've talked about point out.

00:23:15.220 So I'm, I'm curious as to what you think about all this. I mean, like I, I, I intuitively find it

00:23:20.540 so dishonorable to do anything but make your own way and support yourself through the provision of

00:23:28.340 meaningfully good products and services that other people and businesses want and need.

00:23:32.600 Like a sex chat bot that we made, rfab.ai.

00:23:36.120 Or our education system for kids, Parazia, or our talking teddy bear system, whistling.ai.

00:23:42.680 We, we, we try, right? And yet a bunch of people around us are living lives materially much more

00:23:50.620 comfortable than ours because they, they are playing the game. I mean, I feel like, again,

00:23:56.980 like dark MGTOW, but we're not even in the era of dark MGTOW. We're in the era of like dark 0.75

00:24:01.900 everything. It is not just men who are opting out. I mean, last week we ran the episode on women who

00:24:08.680 are foregoing marriage and sex. And we're just like, I'm over it. And I don't really know what

00:24:14.000 to make of it. Maybe people are going to coast on government benefits until governments go bankrupt, 0.90

00:24:19.060 but then AGI is going to sweep in and save them anyway. So it kind of doesn't matter.

00:24:23.740 Like, I just kind of wonder what strategically makes sense for people at this point. What,

00:24:28.260 what are your thoughts on all this now that I've kind of given you the ideas?

00:24:32.260 What it means to work is going to transform over the course of our life. And I mean,

00:24:38.880 over the next five to 10 years, I mean, over the next few years, I mean, AI is going to change

00:24:44.160 everything. The idea that you wouldn't live off the state is going to become laughable. I think to our

00:24:49.400 children is if AI does become as economically impactful as I expect it to be, it's, it's just

00:24:55.300 going to, I mean, if human civilization survives, right? Like I, I think that you're thinking too

00:25:01.720 much like the past, because in the past, you know, you, you could always out think everyone

00:25:05.820 else. You could always outwork everyone else. You could always, but if an AI can run at a marginal

00:25:10.820 cost and is smarter than 98% of the population, which is where I think we're going to get pretty

00:25:16.000 soon. Um, like the agent system we've made for our fab AI, which creates continuously thinking

00:25:21.940 agents. And right now we're getting them set up so that they can even work on like GitHub and

00:25:25.700 everything. And then it can take over the programming for me and bug hunting and everything

00:25:29.800 like that for all of the new things I want to build. I want to have it build some billions

00:25:32.600 for me because I have some ideas for them, but I don't want to go through the whole thing.

00:25:35.820 So I'm like, I'll just have you do it. Right. Even just something like that. Right. Like

00:25:39.160 eventually it's not even going to be like human actors running funds. It's going to be AIs that run

00:25:48.600 collections of other AIs, which make and build companies. The question is, is, is, is what

00:25:54.020 happens to the rest of humanity when that happens? Right. Yeah. I, I don't know. I mean, I think

00:26:01.460 it's clever. I mean, I also like, maybe this is just a survival strategy. I will say that

00:26:07.260 like the parents I know who have made big families work. I don't know of any that are like doing

00:26:14.640 committing, committing, cause this is technically welfare fraud. What I'm describing in, in most

00:26:20.660 cases, I don't, I don't actually think what the second dude is doing. I know the guy who's

00:26:25.740 keeping kids. I don't think that's welfare fraud. Especially. Yeah. But like in these other cases

00:26:31.480 of like the, the multiple wives, it's welfare fraud. And if you and I were to like divorce and,

00:26:38.680 and try to get me to like, I think that's welfare fraud. However, I will say that the,

00:26:43.580 the families that have a lot of kids that I know that, that are doing it really well

00:26:47.520 are extremely savvy about government assistance systems and they max out as many benefits as they

00:26:56.060 can get. And it's, it's hard for me to wrap my head around it because like, I grew up with the

00:27:00.760 mindset of like, even at times where I had qualified for like food stamps or something or unemployment,

00:27:07.420 I didn't take it because I knew that I, you know, had enough savings where I could make it buy. Like

00:27:16.040 if I didn't need it, I wasn't going to take it. And now I feel like, am I a chump for not

00:27:22.060 doing that? And like, it, would it not be better if we all just went hard in on this system just to

00:27:28.780 break it? I don't know. I feel like you're going to need systems like this. Like the world of AI is going

00:27:36.540 to change everything about what it means to work, about what it means to expect to earn your own

00:27:41.220 income. I just, I think, and my fans can push back on me on this, but I do not understand how

00:27:47.420 in 20 years from now we have anything like our existing global economy. Now what that looks like

00:27:54.980 in terms of individuals, jobs, everything like that is going to differ a lot between countries,

00:27:58.620 the countries that have AI and the countries that don't get out of the countries that don't,

00:28:01.840 right? Yeah. Get out of Europe, get out of Europe, run, run, run. And yeah. And this,

00:28:10.180 this brings me to, you know, where I, like, if I'm trying to predict the future of the global economy

00:28:14.620 and everything like that and where everything's going. And it's, it's one of these things where

00:28:18.340 even for like us looking for a job, you know, my brother's like, get a normal job. And I'm like,

00:28:23.900 but it'll be gone in like a month. Like everyone I know in normal jobs is afraid of losing them

00:28:27.160 because of AI, right? Like you, you see this in the numbers, right? Like, I don't know. I mean,

00:28:34.280 I, I, I do think that what they did is bad for their generation, but that's the, you know, that,

00:28:39.980 that's the last generation's rules. And if you always, there were so many things that, you know,

00:28:45.280 my parents told me that just didn't work for my generation. And they sounded wildly naive telling

00:28:50.060 me it when they were like, well, just, you know, go to an office and say, you won't leave until they

00:28:53.920 hire you. Right. You know, like that's something that, that parents used to tell kids, like in

00:28:58.640 all seriousness, show them chutzpah, you know, knock on the doors. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and I

00:29:05.400 think you telling a kid, well, you know, you got to go out and get a job, right? Go, go to a top

00:29:10.220 college and get a job. And they'll say, Oh, what is that? Like an Uber thing? Except Uber won't exist

00:29:18.540 because it'll all be self-driving cars, right? Like, is that a, well, now what's so crazy too,

00:29:24.040 and what makes so many younger people incredibly angry is that after the pandemic, something broke,

00:29:30.640 at least in American job markets. And so many of the job postings are not even for real jobs.

00:29:35.380 They're ghost jobs that businesses maintain just to show certain optics, collect data,

00:29:42.820 et cetera. Like, but there's zero intention to hire. So you could spend a lot of time applying

00:29:48.980 for a job and it will go absolutely nowhere, which is also just such a. Well, in a lot of

00:29:56.420 industries, people have just stopped doing their work. As you pointed out, you were pointing this

00:29:59.180 out about like the publishing industry. It almost seems like nobody in it is working anymore. Like

00:30:02.860 they're just not editing. They're not answering their emails. They're not doing their jobs. Yeah.

00:30:08.280 It's like, they, they kind of left the office and maybe they're still receiving a salary, but like

00:30:12.380 low key, they're just not there anymore. But no one, it's one of those things again, we're like,

00:30:17.040 no one's checking. And I think this is one of those things, maybe we're kind of transitioning from a high

00:30:21.480 trust society to a low trust society and people haven't yet uniformly realized that. And so there's

00:30:27.940 a lot of, everyone is expecting that someone has it. Like I thought you had it. No, I thought you had

00:30:34.920 it. Like everyone thinks that someone else is doing their job. Meanwhile, no one is doing their

00:30:40.760 job and things are falling apart, but it actually takes a surprisingly long time for people to figure

00:30:45.960 that out as is indicated by the similarly daycare fraud. Like this has been going on for a very long

00:30:51.080 time, but no one checks these things. Cause everyone's like, I don't know. It's not my job.

00:30:56.520 That's must be someone else's job. My job is to process the application. My job is to see,

00:31:01.620 oh, this checkbox was met. Okay. Go for it. Like I did my job. My job wasn't to drive over there.

00:31:07.920 And like, even if like, you know, you're a government employee and you drive by and this

00:31:13.500 actually came up with the, with the Muslim, like Islamic marriage polygamist issue is in when this

00:31:21.080 started, it has at various times bubbled up on X and people have had discussion of it. And when

00:31:27.200 online discussions of this trend upward, inevitably a bunch of government workers come on and they're

00:31:32.920 like, yep. Like I'm, I knowingly process payments to, or I'm aware of like this and this, in this

00:31:39.440 case where these people are receiving this much in benefits. And I know that they don't need them.

00:31:43.760 Like I've driven by their house and I've liked them, but like they, they don't have the authority

00:31:48.740 or, and there is no pathway for them to effectively report and have these things dealt with because

00:31:54.660 we live in a society and these systems were set up without the expectation of this kind of

00:32:02.480 exploitation. This is why as bad as universal basic income is, and you can see our videos on it in terms

00:32:07.740 of the effects it has on people. I just do not, it's better than this. And I don't see any other

00:32:13.400 pathway. Well, that's, yeah, we were thinking about most fraud gets most money. Yes. Because we,

00:32:19.640 we were thinking about doing a base camp episode on like America where like American socialism sucks 0.87

00:32:27.540 extra hard because it is a socialist country, but like only for people who cheat, like only for people 0.97

00:32:34.740 who are extremely poor and for people who cheat and then everyone else is screwed. And like, it would 0.85

00:32:39.300 be actually so much better in many ways. If just, it was just for everyone because then, then you're not

00:32:45.960 just rewarding this huge swath of bad actors and you know, the money isn't being wasted in the same

00:32:51.380 way and that it is, it is very frustrating. Yeah. I mean, I think it's, it's, it's frustrating as it

00:32:56.460 is. I think these systems just need to be turned off. We just got to, we've got to overhaul around a

00:33:02.100 UBI system. I just don't, don't think that any of these other. Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah. So when you say

00:33:05.760 turned off, you say like replaced with, I don't know, direct cash payments or something like that.

00:33:09.920 Yeah. Direct replaced with direct cash payments. Just put money in the accounts. I mean, the one

00:33:14.280 thing I worry about then is what I, for example, I alluded to earlier, the WIC program that's women, 1.00

00:33:20.340 infants and children. It's, it's a program for that. Again, like if you're a single mother,

00:33:24.320 who's at or near the poverty level or who qualifies through other means, it's a really

00:33:27.840 effective program. And I like it specifically because unlike with Snap, where you can actually see

00:33:32.780 like, you know, all these TikTok shorts of mothers getting all this like horrible junk food for their 0.99

00:33:37.720 kids. WIC only allows you to buy extremely specific food. I don't like those programs.

00:33:44.320 Let the parents get bad food for their kids. Let their kids die. I don't care. I do. Not our kids. 1.00

00:33:49.720 I do. I do. But WIC is like, you can only buy like two loaves of bread this month and they must be

00:33:56.700 whole grain. They have to be whole grain and you can only buy. It doesn't even understand real health

00:34:01.980 stuff. Like it doesn't, it doesn't get the health stuff right. It's, it's like, it's like you have to,

00:34:07.720 have 1% milk for kids. Like what? No kids should be drinking. Well, but I mean, I think like maybe

00:34:13.060 there's, keep in mind, there's a correlation between poverty and obesity. So they don't want

00:34:17.420 to allow parents to buy whole milk because it burns my brain. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. These

00:34:28.780 programs are ridiculous. And the way you make this work with children is you just make it based on the 0.99

00:34:33.800 number of people. Right. And your UBI goes to whoever is caring for you up to a certain age.

00:34:39.480 And that way you do still get the assistance if you have kids.

00:34:47.080 Yeah. I, yeah, I don't know. Or like if, if there's a, like some kind of like refugee program

00:34:54.060 where like kids can run away to like a safe house if their parents suck. The problem is, and, and 0.91

00:34:59.640 like, I don't know. I'd like, I, we we've alluded to this in past, like, oh, well, what if the state

00:35:04.460 raises children? And then people clap back at us and they're like, well, look at Romanian 0.85

00:35:09.040 orphanages and like China had orphanages and they were terrible. But like, this was all for like 1.00

00:35:13.900 unwanted, abandoned children. These were underfunded programs. What if the state actually like did

00:35:19.300 an exceptionally good program, you know, where like it actually got a lot of investment and it was

00:35:24.580 good and decent. I mean, but then like all the child parents coming in and like, no, a child has

00:35:29.840 to be raised by a mother and a father who are emotionally invested in it. And if you aren't

00:35:34.580 emotionally invested in a child, you won't do a good idea. But I feel like maybe I, I disagree with

00:35:38.580 that. I strongly disagree with that. This is this whole thing of kids. I didn't live with my family

00:35:44.900 after the age of 13 and I did not care. It is when people live without parental love and it ends up

00:35:52.000 messing them up. It's because they are weak, frankly, and they're looking to blame things.

00:35:57.320 I know lots of messed up people who had parents and lots of non messed up people who didn't have

00:36:01.620 parents. I'm just saying I want, I want children to have an option in a UBI world where like mommy buys 0.57

00:36:10.200 meth with all of her money. You know what I mean? And they get, they give the kid to somebody else. 0.57

00:36:18.020 Well, think about it this way. No. And the kid has, can run to somewhere else or get saved. I

00:36:22.240 don't know. I, I just like, I, you know, I can't deal with these stories of kids getting hurt. And

00:36:28.520 like, I, I literally had to, I mean, I should have done it anyway, but I've quit scrolling like

00:36:34.920 passive scrolling on any platform because too many times now, like I scroll and it's like, oh,

00:36:40.400 like infant killed, like two-year-old found dead. And, and, and I'm like, I can't like,

00:36:44.520 then like the next two days I'm up crying all night. Cause I can't deal. Like I, I literally

00:36:48.900 can't deal. So I need like a solution that ends this no more hurting children, no more hurting

00:36:55.760 children. No, no. So fix it, fix it guys. Civilization, fix it. You guys in the comments

00:37:08.500 can let us know what you think the solution is to all this. You know, you know, me, I want to get

00:37:13.220 the extra wives. I I'll be able to breed faster, Simone. We need it. This is how we get more kids 0.99

00:37:18.600 in the house. Kid, kid, kid, kid, kid. You'll have so many kids. I'm actually outlining an episode

00:37:26.140 on the men spamming kids, people who donate sperm or people like Pavel Durov who have offered free IVF

00:37:34.580 to women who want to use his genetic material. And I am going to be making an argument against, 0.71

00:37:42.660 against that particular tactic. Like not. Well, it's not a heavy, but it's not, it's not a bad

00:37:48.200 thing. Like I offer, you know, if somebody wants to use my genetic material, I offer that, right?

00:37:53.500 Like, no, I mean, I think donating to someone who asks you or who's like, Hey, I'd, I'd appreciate

00:37:59.240 that. Like, I think that makes sense. Instead of building a family and legacy is in usually not.

00:38:07.000 I think men who are just, well, no, I think it is absolutely fantastic to donate an egg or sperm 0.99

00:38:14.100 or embryos to people who, who want them from you. But men who think it's a massive win to just spam

00:38:24.000 children. I mean, I'm going to like, I I'm going to give a good effort to try to convince myself

00:38:28.740 that I'm wrong and to steal me on this, but I cannot think of a single great historical figure

00:38:35.400 or impactful historical figure who came from a harem, who came from a man who spammed children.

00:38:41.100 I just don't think that you're, you're doing your own genetics. There's a big difference between

00:38:51.200 families and, you know, yeah, no, I like, I'm all for like having 14 kids, whatever, but like

00:38:56.560 in your household with your culture, raise them, invest in them. Right. But like when, when you are

00:39:02.880 just flying around the world to donate sperm to girls online who are like, yeah, that sounds good. 0.98

00:39:10.680 Like, I don't, I don't think that's the win that people think it is. Or when you're like paying to

00:39:17.320 have a bunch of babies born and then having just staff raise them. I, I, again, don't think that's

00:39:23.860 the same. So I, but anyway, we'll discuss that in the other episode. I need to, it's just taken me a

00:39:29.320 while to get to it because archive.is is not loading the wall street journal articles that I really want

00:39:35.500 to include in my research. So I can't read the articles and I'm really angry about that.

00:39:40.180 I'm sorry, Simone. You need to know more about welfare fraud.

00:39:43.540 You mean about circumventing paywalls?

00:39:50.200 Oh no. I mean, that's what the articles were. I mean, circumventing paywalls.

00:39:53.780 No, the articles are about the men spamming kids.

00:39:56.080 Oh, just use AI to do that.

00:39:58.180 To ask what the articles are about?

00:40:00.320 Yeah.

00:40:01.860 I always worry that they're, they're going to hallucinate. I want to see the articles.

00:40:04.980 Just say, don't hallucinate. Can you give me the full text of this article?

00:40:08.400 Oh, oh. They do that?

00:40:11.700 And sometimes they can. Yeah.

00:40:13.900 Okay. Well then I will try that. Thank you. And thank you for sharing that tip with our audience.

00:40:18.700 Mmm. I love you, Simone. You are a great wife, but what are we doing for dinner tonight?

00:40:23.260 So I can do more Burmese mint chicken pasta bolognese. Well, I mean, not bolognese,

00:40:28.380 but like pesto pasta with Burmese mint chicken meat sauce, essentially.

00:40:32.780 Did we have that left? Like it's going to be less.

00:40:35.260 No. So, I mean, I'm, I would do a whole new batch. So we have enough pesto left to do that.

00:40:41.420 I have the pasta from yesterday. Oh, then I want, I want a steak.

00:40:45.900 Okay. Instead you want steak with chives and...

00:40:48.140 A double order of steak with lots of chives and peppers.

00:40:51.980 Okay. Okay.

00:40:53.420 And let me know when we're, we're frying it up. Cause I'll throw in some miso paste and stuff

00:40:57.900 like that to make the sauce interesting. Oh, you want to make the sauce.

00:41:01.740 Yeah. Well, I'll just, I'll just make a twist on like a Mongolian sauce or something,

00:41:05.580 but you'll, you'll make the sauce yourself. So all I have to do is prep the veg.

00:41:09.100 Well, I mean, prep a base sauce. Cause I don't know how to do that.

00:41:13.820 I don't either. Just ask perplexity, but sure. I'll do that. And then you'll add to it.

00:41:21.820 I'm not unreasonable. I'm a very, very easy husband to be married to.

00:41:28.860 Just make me gourmet restaurant meals each night while the children are

00:41:33.260 attacking and while bathing the children and changing the diapers. And no, I love you. You're

00:41:38.060 amazing. You always go above and beyond. The kids always get so sad when they discover it's not

00:41:43.100 a day when they spend the whole day afternoon with you while you work climbing over you while

00:41:47.500 you attempt to vibe code. Well, I mean, not attempt successfully vibe code.

00:41:50.940 He jumps on me. He doesn't climb over me. He does the hot jump.

00:41:55.180 So Indy climbs over you. Torsten and Octavian jump on you.

00:42:00.140 The Titan especially likes jumping on me.

00:42:03.340 Well, it's her thing. She's a Titan. She's a shark princess. 0.97

00:42:08.540 What does a shark princess do, but jump on people? 1.00

00:42:11.260 One day she'll be a shark. That's what she said. 0.94

00:42:13.100 Yeah. And then, and then I will eat you mommy. Do not eat me Titan. Okay. I won't mommy.

00:42:20.620 Oh my God. The clip that I used at the end of the episode that I ran today, Titan was so sweet.

00:42:26.780 Oh, talking about creaky man. Yeah. Who says, you go, who says darn? She goes, 0.97

00:42:32.620 Titan says, darn it. 0.99

00:42:36.380 Oh, dang it. Dang it. Dang it. Dang it. And then she goes, and the creaky man, 1.00

00:42:42.220 and the creaky man lives in a cave. That's a blue and pink because those are Titans.

00:42:47.580 No, pink and purple, which are Titan's favorite colors. Maybe a little blue.

00:42:53.180 Maybe a little blue. Her monsters have to live in caves that are her favorite colors.

00:42:57.820 Very spooky, but it's pink and purple.

00:42:59.740 But creaky man is good because it sounds like a real monster.

00:43:02.620 Creaky man totally sounds like the new Siren Head.

00:43:05.660 I would say he's a real monster. Maybe she saw it somewhere.

00:43:08.540 Well, people on X pointed out that helicopter helicopter came from this like obscure clip of

00:43:15.500 what I think was, what was that thing where you would like get randomly matched with people

00:43:20.140 and it's Kermit the frog. Yeah. It's, it's a thing. I think helicopter is a reference to

00:43:27.900 Kermit helicoptering something at the end of the clip. If you want it, if you know what I mean.

00:43:31.420 Helicopter! Helicopter! Helicopter!

00:43:33.420 Got it. And that's what our kids see.

00:43:36.140 So that is the catchphrase of our household and it is in reference to Kermit the frog in a random channel.

00:43:44.300 Yeah. I think that's just too perfect. It's too perfect.

00:43:47.820 I'm proud if that is actually where helicopter helicopter came from.

00:43:53.820 Hey, none of our kids have gotten in sex scandals yet. That's going to be hard.

00:43:57.260 All the, the families that do the things and then their kids get into sex scandals.

00:44:02.860 Yeah. I wonder. Yeah, actually a lot of people like on, on X were also like, don't,

00:44:08.300 don't include your photos in your, or sorry, your, your kids in your videos. Like this never goes well.

00:44:13.660 Every time there's a kid influencer. And I'm like, okay, sorry. Who is the hero of the hour?

00:44:19.500 Who is getting nothing but love? Who is getting nothing but adoration right now?

00:44:25.580 I have no idea.

00:44:26.380 The kid doing the Somali daycare fraud videos. 0.91

00:44:29.340 Oh yeah. He's cool.

00:44:30.380 Who does the filming, Malcolm?

00:44:33.820 His mom.

00:44:34.620 Really? His mom?

00:44:36.220 Yes. Yes. And of course, people are concerned trolling him too. Like, oh, just wait. Oh,

00:44:42.060 I'm like, the sex scandal is going to come out. And he's like, literally there was this interview

00:44:45.740 clip of him and he's like, I don't like, they're up for disappointment. I'm Mormon. I don't drink.

00:44:51.420 I'm a virgin. Like, I don't know what you expect you're going to find. Like, this is going to be

00:44:57.020 hard. And like, all of these people just want to believe that young people involved in content

00:45:03.660 creation are somehow going to be ruined for life. And of course, like, it's because they're weird

00:45:09.020 pearl clutchers. There are tons of kids who are making very good money, making just cute little

00:45:14.460 play videos. Like what's his like, whatever's world. I mean, maybe it's like, no, no, no.

00:45:19.580 The thing is, is that these people are weird pearl clutchers who complain about everything. 0.99

00:45:24.140 And it's just who they are.

00:45:25.820 I'm sorry if you're also a base camper and you like our podcast, we just disagree with you on this,

00:45:29.500 but that's the thing is base campers disagree. No, I think it's so lame. It's so like,

00:45:33.820 every kid wants to be an influencer these days. Like what are like, or almost every kid does,

00:45:39.180 right? Like a screwed up family. Like I, I, most of the cases of influencer, like kid influencers 0.90

00:45:45.820 who are screwed up, the screwed up element of them is because they have like a narcissistic parent or

00:45:50.700 like they're like, whether or not there was going to be YouTube involved, they were going to have a 0.99

00:45:55.660 screwed up life. Like, yeah. So I think that there's, there's two things where you can have

00:45:59.740 problems with this. If the, the kids are the core of the content, right? Because then you need the

00:46:06.700 kids to behave in specific ways and do certain things. And you're creating a weird relationship

00:46:11.260 between you and your kids. Cause the kids are the content itself.

00:46:14.460 I think that's where parenting is the core of the content. Cause that's when you have the parents

00:46:19.340 like making a video about like, well, our daughter just had her first period and I'm going to the

00:46:23.420 store to buy her tampons. Yeah. Like that, that can cause problems for kids. 1.00

00:46:27.340 Yeah. Like that's yeah. I, I tell you, yeah. Just putting kids on Instagram. That's not,

00:46:31.820 you know, and the other one where it can cause a problem is when it's specifically because you're

00:46:37.100 trying to do something that is inappropriate with like, obviously there was the case recently

00:46:40.940 of what's her face who came of age. All y'all broke haters. Y'all ain't doing it like Lil Tay.

00:46:46.460 This is why all y'all here is hate me. This cost me 200,000.

00:46:51.660 They're rapping.

00:46:52.380 Okay.

00:46:53.420 Money went.

00:46:54.380 Had a like sold out for her 18th birthday.

00:46:57.100 The only fans thing.

00:46:58.380 With the, the girl who was like younger and it's like, I'm all about the money.

00:47:01.580 And yeah, the Asian girl.

00:47:03.340 Yeah. Whatever her name is. 0.60

00:47:05.340 No, there, there are absolutely bad instances. And there, there are certain, like,

00:47:10.860 for example, like we know from experience that like, just, just having a certain number of

00:47:15.660 subscribers or views, isn't going to translate immediately to money, but translates to money,

00:47:19.820 certain types of contents, which makes like, for example, the like Sephora influencer kids.

00:47:24.540 I understand why their parents got them into that because that's where the sponsorships are

00:47:29.340 like these makeup companies reaching out to them because they make a lot of money from,

00:47:33.340 you know, other kids who are intent driven consumers watching that content and wanting to

00:47:38.460 buy something. So that leads to lucrative sponsorships. And then, you know, it ends up,

00:47:42.540 you end up with these kids who are now like screwed up with, you know, body image issues or whatever.

00:47:47.420 Although I feel like that can be easily, like, I don't, I don't know how much body image issues

00:47:51.260 necessarily even correlate with bad outcomes in life. Like I'm watching a documentary,

00:47:55.500 the old documentary gossip on Rupert Murdoch and his publications and page six. And this one

00:48:01.100 gossip columnist named Cindy and her mother, like she was born in 1935. She was 90 when the documentary

00:48:07.420 was made and her mother was like screwed up. Like she gave her, her, her teenage daughter a nose job 1.00

00:48:14.700 in like the, the, the forties, right? Like this is before like nose jobs were highly sophisticated.

00:48:21.100 She had her hairline raised because she didn't like, yeah. And she like sent her to dance classes, 1.00

00:48:26.700 like whatever. Cause she thought she was an ugly girl and she just wanted her to be beautiful. And like, 1.00

00:48:30.540 she like was very controlling, but this woman ended up becoming like one of the most prolific 1.00

00:48:37.980 and successful gossip columnists. Can you tell when a nose is attractive or unattractive? 0.98

00:48:43.180 I literally can't tell. No. Well, you and I are both broadly face blind and people thought I was

00:48:48.060 like trying to do this, but like a mean or troll in that episode where you were like, which group of

00:48:52.540 women is more attractive? And I'm like, I don't know, which is the more like, because you're like, 1.00

00:48:56.060 you can tell which is the more, and I couldn't tell which is more. No, a lot of people love that you

00:48:59.580 couldn't tell because they go, they're all ugly to me too, because I don't know. There's

00:49:02.780 this internet thing where guys think they look really cool by pretending normal looking women

00:49:07.020 are unattractive. And it's, it's, it's not a flex. It's weird. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean,

00:49:14.380 I don't know. Like I, I, I can, I can, I think I can try to like look for facial symmetry and signs

00:49:20.060 of health. That, that is what attractiveness is. Right. I think, yeah. Well, for me, it's mostly just

00:49:26.380 being appropriately the appropriate weight. Like that's a 95% of attractiveness for guys.

00:49:32.860 It's just, I think. No, no, no, no. Fundamentally, what you blew my mind about was, especially for,

00:49:38.060 for women, young, young, young, young, young, young. That's like the only thing that matters 1.00

00:49:44.940 is like how young you look. Well, I mean, that's your fertility window, right? Yeah. No,

00:49:51.420 it makes, it makes evolutionary sense. Anyway, I am going to get dinner started. I love you very much.

00:49:57.820 And life is good. Have a good one. You too.

00:50:06.460 Wait, what happened Octavian? What, what is up there?

00:50:08.860 My, our, our Christmas, our, our Christmas llama. Christmas llama. He will, mom put him right there.

00:50:17.900 And now he moves. Do you want to put him? Yeah. I want to put him. So you get to choose a special treat

00:50:25.180 because you put, you found the Christmas llama. I can't, I can't believe I found the Christmas llama.

00:50:32.060 It's so magical. He watches you, you know. Oh yeah. He sees when you do naughty things.

00:50:40.940 Yeah, I put it in some of my things. Oh, he's going to hide again. Yeah.

00:50:44.700 He's going to hide again. And then you'll find him. Octavian, you get a special treat.

00:50:48.380 Can I eat it now? Yeah, you can. Yes.

00:50:52.060 Mama. I want to eat.

00:50:54.540 I can do it after when we eat. This is so fun. It actually is magical. It actually is? Yeah.

00:51:04.140 How can you tell? Because he moved up there. With this kind of ass? I mean, come on man.

00:51:10.460 Oh no. I didn't know he moved. I love, I love this. This is like a very sad. How do our kids not curse?

00:51:16.540 I want to get, get, I gotta get the scarf out. Let's get the presents out.

Based Camp - January 07, 2026

Society Fd Men： Some Men Are Fing Back

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