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Starship Troopers Proves Leftist Ideology is Evil

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In this episode, we take a look at the Star Trek: The Original Series, Starship Troopers. It's a movie that lampoons the ideas that are lampooned by leftist ideology, and yet, people like us see it as a utopia. Is this a good or bad thing?

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00:00:00.000 for leftists who are in the comments and want to argue against us. I'd really like you to describe
00:00:06.520 within the context of the world, one genuinely negative or genuinely fascistic thing about
00:00:14.680 the governing structure of the Star Trek movie proof world. And I'm not even burdening you as
00:00:19.740 the books. In the movie, as portrayed in the movie, what is evil about it? They have gender equality.
00:00:25.560 They have ethnic equality. Anyone can vote. All they ask is that you undergo some sacrifice.
00:00:31.220 And you could say like, well, they talk about the failure of democracy. Well, I'm sorry. Just as a
00:00:37.120 passionate observer here, I would argue that most leftists would also argue democracy has failed.
00:00:43.900 I want you to explain to me what's actually evil about this system. Not just the outfits,
00:00:48.080 what's actually wrong with it. That people have pride in their country. And in their case,
00:00:51.660 their country is humanity because that's what it represents because it is a one world government.
00:00:56.520 The people have pride in humanity. Is that what makes it evil? Like, is it that you need the
00:01:01.980 government to actively undermine humanity, to actively be promoting things about how bad
00:01:06.080 humans are all the time because you grew up with that and you think that that's what a sane,
00:01:09.940 normal government does because that's what your government's been doing since you started the
00:01:13.380 school system trying to indoctrinate you into hating your own country, into hating your own people.
00:01:18.460 You define that as good? It's disgusting. 1.00
00:01:23.360 If the far left was telling the truth and gender and ethnic equality was what they were really
00:01:28.200 fighting for, the Starship Troopers universe would be a utopia to them. They show in their hatred of
00:01:34.380 it that they were never telling the truth, that what they really want is not a world of equality,
00:01:39.840 but a world where people like them no longer need to make sacrifices to get things in life or to
00:01:45.560 exercise power over others. Would you like to know more?
00:01:48.760 Hello, Simone. So every one of our episodes starts with a little sound clip from one of our favorite
00:01:55.880 movies, Starship Troopers. And it's a really fascinating movie, especially in terms of how
00:02:01.780 they've been talked about in the public discourse today, because people are pointing out that it was
00:02:07.460 made to lampoon fascism. And yet the leftists see it as being taken as like the guard, like the honor
00:02:16.280 guard, people like us, who they would consider fascists or something like that, actually seeing a lot of
00:02:20.960 great lessons from it, seeing a lot of great ideas in it. And they're like, look at how dumb they are 1.00
00:02:26.640 believing that there are great ideas in a movie that was made to ridicule those ideas. 0.94
00:02:31.160 And this to me is a great instance of the left telling on itself, because I think that Starship
00:02:40.980 Troopers as a movie, and we're going to go into this, is one of the best condemnation of a leftist
00:02:46.320 ideology I have ever seen, in that they thought that they were creating a movie that lampooned
00:02:52.740 the ideas that were being brought up in it in this movie. It really reminds me of a video we did on
00:02:58.920 the Barbie movie being one of the most anti-woke movies I've ever seen, with examples in this being
00:03:07.420 that when Ken comes to the human world, he keeps looking for patriarchy and can't find it, like he
00:03:13.240 finds women doctors, everything like that. The only place he's able to find evidence of a patriarchy
00:03:18.000 is in a high school library, not even a public library. What we are teaching our children is the
00:03:26.220 only place the patriarchy exists. And then he enforces that within his world, and we go into
00:03:30.540 a bunch of other stuff. But I'm just saying, like, it is so obvious. There is almost no way
00:03:34.560 to honestly watch the Barbie movie and take away anything but an incredibly based message.
00:03:40.620 I don't know. People take away what they want to take away.
00:03:43.320 Well, no, but I mean, honestly, watch it. Honestly, watch the way it's engaging with themes and the
00:03:47.820 messages that it's putting across. And I think that this is true with the Starship Troopers movie as
00:03:52.800 well. So you have this guy, Van der Hoeven, who started reading the book Starship Troopers,
00:03:58.560 which is a great book. It's one of the considered like one of the best books in history for people
00:04:02.480 who don't know. It's one of, I think, the only sci-fi book allowed to be read was in US military
00:04:07.700 for a while. And it's on alternate governance theory. It's more of a book on governance philosophy,
00:04:13.020 which, you know, we're nerds about because we wrote a book on governance philosophy. But he started
00:04:16.500 reading it and he didn't like it. He didn't like the ideas put across in it. And he saw them as fascist,
00:04:22.800 in his mindset. And so when he was tasked with writing a movie about it, he wanted to lampoon
00:04:28.460 these ideas. The problem was, is he also honestly conveyed them well enough that there is actually
00:04:36.940 nothing evil about the government system that he portrays in this world. I mean, keep in mind,
00:04:45.720 this is an elected government system. Anyone in the Starship Troopers universe can earn the right
00:04:51.200 to vote. All you need to do is either engage in government service through, you know, some sort
00:04:57.040 of government activity or join the military. There's two pathways. This is made clear in the
00:05:01.080 book. And they don't specifically change this in the movie. They don't say that there's not the
00:05:04.880 other pathway. So we assume that it still happens because it follows broadly the same beats of the
00:05:08.640 book. And if you're like disabled or mentally disabled, they find a way to allow you to still
00:05:14.160 earn your vote. You just have to earn it, which is very different from a fascist state.
00:05:18.620 And not just vote, like also the right to have kids, et cetera.
00:05:23.160 Well, it gets easier, they say. They say you can still get the right to have kids if you're not
00:05:26.440 a citizen, but you have to earn it. And so the point here being is that it is a government that
00:05:31.820 asks things of its citizens. And this is seen as holistically evil to the far left. So evil that
00:05:43.360 they thought that's all they needed to do to have that. And then the aesthetics of what they see as
00:05:49.240 fascism, i.e. like long black coats. And now the government system being depicted in the movie is
00:05:55.260 evil. Even though it's diverse, it's competent, it's meritocratic. They appear to have a free press 0.99
00:06:02.300 system. You see people disagreeing with government tactics within the state media. You see freedom of
00:06:07.880 movement. So a really interesting thing is leftists when they watch this, they're like,
00:06:11.440 humanity started the war. Do you remember how the war was started, Simone, by the way? Because
00:06:16.700 it's conveyed in both the movie and the books. Space Mormons. Space Mormons. But what did they do?
00:06:23.740 They settled in a place that was kind of off limits that they should not have been.
00:06:27.700 They disagree. But the government was so not fascist, not like evil military fascists,
00:06:33.400 that they were able to do this. They were able to have ideas that went against the world government's
00:06:38.080 ideas and act on those ideas. The war was started because the world was a world in which freedom
00:06:46.300 of speech, freedom of movement, and freedom of religion were allowed. That's why the war was 0.92
00:06:54.380 started. And the Bugs, having this ultra-communist mindset, couldn't understand that this one faction
00:07:01.220 of humanity was acting in a way that the rest of humanity didn't condone of. And I've loved in
00:07:08.220 leftists, because the great thing about seeing leftists defend us is they're defending insects
00:07:13.480 over humans, saying that these insects are in the right and humans are in the wrong. And they'll do
00:07:20.260 things like one video I saw, which was insane, it said that the attack on Buenos Aires was a false flag
00:07:26.660 attack. So if you understand what that means, they were arguing that basically it was a fascist
00:07:32.640 government. It could only stay and maintain power if they had an enemy to fight. So they attacked
00:07:37.000 themselves to blame it on the insects. Except we can see in the movie that very clearly isn't the
00:07:43.420 case. Do you remember the scene that proves that that's not the case? No, actually, I don't. Remind
00:07:49.280 me. So the big spaceship carrier that the girl is flying in, the part of the plot, you know, the
00:07:57.460 people spit up and it's this big spaceship carrier flying very, very far from Earth. In fact, it's so
00:08:02.920 far, it's out of contact range once its satellite is knocked off with the other human colonies, gets 0.99
00:08:08.860 hit by the asteroid on its way to Earth. It scrapes the top, remember, and they have to do the last
00:08:14.060 minute maneuver. But this meant that the asteroid was coming from outside of our system. So it
00:08:19.620 definitely wasn't sent by the US government. And then people are like, well, then it must have come
00:08:25.460 from too far away or something like that. Well, you don't know that the bugs didn't have, you know,
00:08:29.940 more close sort of warning systems to attack humanity. And maybe even were preparing for more
00:08:35.160 of an assault because they saw also the threat and the Mormon settlement triggered that. Nothing in the 0.95
00:08:39.680 movie is at all evidence that there was any sort of disingenuousness on part of humanity.
00:08:46.440 Simone, do you want your thoughts before I go further with this?
00:08:49.480 No, no, no. Go ahead.
00:08:50.900 Another part that I found absolutely hilarious. So Vanderhoeven, the guy who directed this,
00:08:55.860 when he was choosing casting for the movie, he wanted it to be very sort of obvious that it was
00:09:01.160 supposed to be an evil government and evil people. And so the way that he demonstrated this
00:09:06.860 was by choosing beautiful actors, beautiful fit actors. He thought it would be obvious,
00:09:16.120 like a Nazi propaganda film, if he chose beautiful actors. And I love the distortion of the leftist
00:09:22.080 mindset this shows. And I'm like, it shows how leftists tell themselves, if he thought by choosing,
00:09:27.520 like that he equivocates human beauty with evil.
00:09:32.300 Equivocates human beauty with evil. That he sees beautiful people and he goes, oh,
00:09:37.640 that's obviously evil. He sees a government structure in which unlike wish, you know,
00:09:42.620 like Disney saying, oh, if a person demands one sacrifice from somebody on the behalf of the
00:09:47.260 greater good of society, that that means he's evil. That means that an individual is evil. If
00:09:51.480 the smallest amount is asked from anyone, then that is evil. And to sort of worship this
00:09:59.240 constant indulgence, this, this ugliness of humanity is so telling of the way that what
00:10:06.200 left actually thinks, but created this movie, that's just fun and gets across a lot of interesting
00:10:11.480 ideas. Well, one of the things I wanted to do here was read some of like the quotes I've seen
00:10:17.440 online about this, because it will give you an idea of just how like crazy people are about this.
00:10:23.460 So a person says, I rewatched the classroom scene in Starship Troopers and the teacher literally
00:10:29.700 talks about how democracy was a failed experiment and force slash violence is the ultimate means
00:10:34.840 of power. Emphasis on force and direct action is one of the features of fascism. I swear people
00:10:41.440 simping for the government just shows how effective the film operates as a piece of fascist propaganda.
00:10:46.640 And I get it. Fascism does a great job of it appealing to values like strengths, duty, patriotism, 0.76
00:10:52.140 et cetera. Do people really think fascists saw themselves as evil? Obviously there are reasons
00:10:56.840 people get behind these movements. I want to go to the reply because I think it's, it's hilarious
00:11:01.240 because it's so true. Yes, all power can be reduced to an expression of force. Acknowledging this
00:11:07.620 is just accepting truth. Crowdsourcing the application of violence to a government via quote unquote
00:11:12.700 democracy does not dilute this fact. So people who are unfamiliar with governance theory may
00:11:19.420 not know this, but it is broadly accepted within governance theory that even democracies, the state
00:11:25.100 has a monopoly on violence. The state can commit violence without any real repercussions so long
00:11:30.580 as it is within the rules that the state decides. I.e. the state can murder someone, for example.
00:11:36.860 The state can come into your home and steal stuff from you. The state can even demand you just give
00:11:41.400 it stuff. And so when you are exercising control of how the state exerts its monopoly on violence,
00:11:48.060 i.e. voting, you are committing a form of violence within this interpretation of statecraft. And this
00:11:56.560 is like normal democratic thinking. This person is just unfamiliar that the person who wrote the initial
00:12:02.820 thing saying that the state having monopoly on violence is purely a fascist way of relating to
00:12:08.680 government is just a profoundly uneducated person. The difference lies in the field of civic virtue.
00:12:15.720 A citizen accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic of which he is a member
00:12:21.120 defending it if need be with his life. The civilian does not. They're quoting the movie there.
00:12:25.460 You are not acting in violence on part of one, but on the whole. And then quote, whether it's exerted by
00:12:33.940 10 or 10 billion, political authority is violence to a degree, the people we call citizens have earned
00:12:39.420 the right to wield it. And then the person goes on to say, and you wield it by voting. And this is
00:12:44.860 well-known in government theory. Voting is a form of violence, right? And then it's a quote here,
00:12:49.460 quote, when you vote, you are exercising political authority. You're using force. And force, my friends,
00:12:54.600 is violence, the supreme authority from which all authority derives. This is a quote from the movie,
00:12:58.320 end quote. And you can only vote when you commit yourself to service to the federation. I think
00:13:03.640 another really interesting point that somebody makes here is, then how is it that even in the
00:13:08.280 movie, Johnny Rico's parents are fantastically wealthy while being proudly non-citizens? If this
00:13:13.300 were a fascist system, then they wouldn't have had the right to speak negatively about the government,
00:13:18.240 nor would they have been allowed to become so wealthy. Fascism is literally the marriage of
00:13:22.640 industry and state where nothing is outside the state and everything is for the state.
00:13:27.040 The real issue here is so many people refuse to accept the definition of fascism that was created
00:13:33.420 by fascism's inventor, Benito Mussolini. Even so-called experts refuse to the true definition
00:13:39.760 of words. Mussolini said many times that criticizing the government under fascism is treaty, and nobody
00:13:46.340 has the right to vote for or against anything. Yet even in the movie, they often talked about voting
00:13:51.640 and criticizing the government and its reporting, none of which would have been allowed under fascism.
00:13:56.060 So what's interesting here is this is similar to leftist ideas about racism, where they define
00:14:02.500 racism as anything other than a leftist interpretation of race. You know, I'll often point out,
00:14:07.260 I'm like, well, I don't look down on black people. I have lots of black friends. And they're like,
00:14:10.480 well, that's not, that's not not being a racist. You can still be racist and have those things.
00:14:14.580 And I'm like, no, what you really just mean is you have defined racism as left-wing ideology.
00:14:19.480 They have defined fascism as anything that looks aesthetically right-leaning to them.
00:14:26.620 And because of that, they cannot see the world of Starship Troopers. It's actually probably one of
00:14:33.960 the best worlds in terms of like quality of life, actual freedom of any of the star worlds I'm familiar
00:14:43.740 with. It's certainly better than life under the Star Wars universe or any of the, even like the
00:14:48.940 good Republic. It had, you know, slavery happening around it and stuff like that. It was not like a
00:14:55.360 great, they had enormous poverty. It had, you know, all sorts of problems. Even, you know, people are
00:15:01.840 like, well, what about the post-scarcity of the Federation? Right. I'm like, okay, the world that you
00:15:06.840 are introduced to on the Federation is mostly the world of military Starships. It's a world where
00:15:14.040 the force of science in that world, like all scientists have effectively been militarized
00:15:20.020 and serve on military Starships and are basically completely brainwashed into the government's way
00:15:26.320 of thinking. Yeah. It's post-scarcity on the Starships of what is, at least from what I can tell,
00:15:32.780 basically an actual fascist government because you're like, well, how do you know it's fascist?
00:15:38.260 You know, they have voting on, on earth and stuff like that. I don't really see anyone ever disagreeing
00:15:43.080 with the government. They may have voting, but it seems to me like they're, maybe they're using an AI
00:15:47.300 lattice to prevent real dissent or something. Um, but yeah, it, it is a much more fascist coded world.
00:15:55.580 So, especially in the way that it, it, yeah. Anyway, I want you to talk a bit to this stuff.
00:16:00.680 Well, you're not really talking about aspects of the movie that like I
00:16:07.200 what appeals to me in the movie is how based it is and, and how realistic it is in some ways too.
00:16:18.540 Like I, I find a lot of what makes me excited about Starship Troopers in that general universe
00:16:25.380 is how much it reminds me of the 1950s Coronet films tutorials that I'm so obsessed with.
00:16:31.020 And that it's like extremely practical. Like people are not delusional about what they can
00:16:35.820 achieve. People are very practical about what they are allowed to access or not. There isn't
00:16:41.640 a lot of entitlement in the world. It's more like, oh, I want to take this path or, and I'm able to
00:16:46.340 take this path and that's what I'm going to do. And I'm going to be proud of it, which I really like.
00:16:50.200 I really like the sort of practicality of it in ways that like, what would leftists find so hateful
00:16:54.740 about the movie? Like another thing they'd probably really hate is the scene where all of their scores
00:17:00.040 are shown against each other. So they know where they rank in the class and that can be like brought
00:17:03.840 up and enlarged. That's a good thing. We should go back to that. But to a leftist, that's a form of
00:17:08.500 violence because you are hurting the people who didn't put in the effort to do as well.
00:17:13.280 Or the leftist is admitting that some people are born smarter than others. And then you get into the
00:17:17.180 whole genetics of that, which is something else they don't admit, you know, so many
00:17:19.780 contradicting views. But no, I think that that's an enormously good way to motivate people to do
00:17:25.820 better. Peer pressure in a high school environment is, is really motivating.
00:17:30.200 Yeah. I've also really liked the way that a lot of things just aren't cared about,
00:17:35.060 that people don't make a big deal out of the fact that grades are publicly posted,
00:17:40.960 that men and women, you know, shower together in locker rooms and it's not a big deal.
00:17:45.340 Oh wait, it's a completely post-gender society. 0.98
00:17:48.940 Which is weird because like a lot of, I would say a lot of progressives are fighting for a
00:17:52.940 post-gender society. They're fighting for gender, gender neutral bathrooms. They're fighting for 0.82
00:17:56.980 gender neutral locker rooms. And I'm like, yeah, and they're here. And this is how they're done
00:18:02.120 right. Which is like, it's not an issue. Well, this is totally post-racial and post-gender. 0.92
00:18:08.120 Women are given no special status in this world to create equality. And it's the same with 1.00
00:18:14.120 different ethnic groups. Everyone is actually treated equally, which to a leftist is racism
00:18:19.440 because they redefine the term racism. To a leftist, that is sexism because they're all just,
00:18:25.660 you know, you wouldn't even have a trans issue here because everyone uses the same bathrooms 1.00
00:18:28.780 and the same showers.
00:18:30.160 Yeah.
00:18:30.440 But I think there would be fewer trans people in this world because they're just, 1.00
00:18:33.940 there's so little functional difference between the genders. So like, why would you bother? 1.00
00:18:39.160 I mean, like women still look feminine. They have slightly different, I mean, slightly different 1.00
00:18:44.560 uniforms, but it is really impressive how representation in governmental leadership in
00:18:49.520 the military and all factions of the military are very gender equal. And this is not to say that people 1.00
00:18:55.020 don't have romantic relationships or compete, you know, like two men compete against each other for
00:19:00.240 the same moment, for example. But I just, I find that so refreshing and wonderful. And I think this is,
00:19:06.400 I was just listening to an episode of blocked and reported and which is one of my favorite podcasts in
00:19:11.960 which the hosts, Jesse and Katie were discussing how sometimes like raising awareness about an issue
00:19:18.120 can just make it so much worse. And if you just don't make it a big deal, people just let it happen.
00:19:24.680 Whereas if you make a big deal out of it, then it becomes polarized. Then there's baggage. Then there's a
00:19:29.620 war involved. And suddenly the thing becomes non-functional. This happened, for example, they were
00:19:34.260 pointing out. And I thought this was really interesting with the, oh God, what was it called?
00:19:41.040 The, the vaccine that we, that we got for not getting cervical cancer.
00:19:46.020 It doesn't matter. The cervical cancer vaccine.
00:19:48.380 Yeah. But anyway, yeah, I, I love that. And I love that's like, and also the lines in it are so
00:19:55.140 good. And I think it's one of those movies where like, we can see how even someone who hates
00:20:01.300 propaganda and, and hates like national pride in depicting it makes it just so attractive.
00:20:07.940 Like the first movie starts out with like a propaganda video, you know, of like a news
00:20:13.960 bulletin from the government. And it just has so many wonderful, catchy elements. Of course,
00:20:18.200 one of them being our podcast. Do you want to know more? But there's also so many slogans.
00:20:23.080 I want to talk about two things you talked about here. One is, you know, you talk about gender
00:20:27.300 equality. It's shown multiple times. The Sky Marshall of this world is a woman. And I think
00:20:32.960 they're actually replaced, replaced with a black woman, right? Like when they're replacing them 1.00
00:20:36.900 with a more competent one, because they do a bad job, they get replaced. And it was Sky Marshall
00:20:40.740 Tahat Maru. So even a non-Western, you know, this is pretty obviously an African name. So this is a
00:20:46.960 world where-
00:20:47.580 Well, and the main characters in the beginning are not in America. They're in Latin America.
00:20:52.120 Yeah. It's so actually pluralistic that the leftists can't like, when you, where are the,
00:20:59.560 where are all like the Federation capitals? Where are all the Federation scenes? They're
00:21:02.440 like in San Francisco. They're like in New York. It's an incredibly Eurocentric world.
00:21:06.220 Yeah, seriously.
00:21:06.680 Whereas there's a world that they make, and that's where we're attacked. And I'd also hear,
00:21:11.240 note the propaganda films. This is another thing leftists complain about. Like they are annoyed
00:21:16.060 at the scene where you have the government PSYOPs organization, and they're releasing a video
00:21:21.040 about how best to kill arachnids. And then they show them shooting one of the bugs on screen with
00:21:27.280 useful information to people, humans that are putting themselves in harm way, fighting an
00:21:33.200 aggressive species that attacked us. One, what started the war, we settled on lands that they
00:21:38.040 claimed were theirs. Like it wasn't even direct competition. And two, it wasn't even, you know,
00:21:42.920 licensed by the government. So they are completely in the wrong for this. You know, they could have
00:21:47.120 just tried to talk to us. It was shown they had the capacity for this in Starship Trooper 3.
00:21:52.020 And one thing I quite like in Starship Trooper 3 is it also shows how, even when they're trying to
00:21:57.600 act their best, evil the bugs are because of different conceptions about life because they're
00:22:02.520 a hive mind. And so when they're trying to like talk to the humans, finally, in one scene,
00:22:07.820 it's this horrifying scene where it's a bunch of puppeted bodies on like tentacles talking to
00:22:13.800 somebody of like their dead friends. And it's like, well, I thought these would be good things
00:22:17.820 to talk to you with because you were friends with them. And, you know, like your comrades,
00:22:21.700 right? Like it has such a small understanding of humanity that it thinks that that's how you kill
00:22:27.140 a person's friends and then puppet their corpses. Yeah. So they're familiar.
00:22:31.240 Like I love that. But that also shows why they didn't understand what was happening with the
00:22:35.840 Mormons and stuff like that. But it is because they are a lesser form of life than the pluralistic 1.00
00:22:40.700 humanity. They are the hive mind that the ultra progressive pines for. But in this scene where
00:22:47.100 he's shooting it, I'm like, I see literally within the ethics of the universe. No problem with that.
00:22:51.480 This is an aggressive species. It's pretty obvious that individually, the type of arachnid that he was
00:22:57.100 killing is not a sentient entity, that only as a hive mind are they sentient entities. This is shown
00:23:01.480 from the perception of the arachnids. Maybe a brain bug is a sentient entity because the psychics were able
00:23:06.300 to talk to them, but they're not able to talk to or read the other insects that's shown when they
00:23:11.100 can even communicate with things like ferrets easily. So if they're able to easily communicate
00:23:15.920 with a ferret, that means that this arachnid was less intelligent than a ferret. And then they're
00:23:19.860 like, well, they're stomping bugs on screen. It's like, okay, like actual cockroaches, like human
00:23:24.300 world cockroaches, I guess call PETA, you know? And even like looking down on your enemy at something 0.95
00:23:31.220 that isn't elevated in the show, there's a dissection scene where one of the girls is talking 1.00
00:23:35.040 down on insects. And the biology teacher who is working for the government is saying that you
00:23:40.260 shouldn't look down on insects. They can be just as complicated and sophisticated as humanity.
00:23:45.320 And- I know, but one of my favorite, you know, like propaganda lines is still, the only good bug is a
00:23:50.280 dead bug. Dead bug. All right. I love, we're in this for the species, boys and girls. And I always say
00:23:56.120 that to like you, like when we're, it's simple numbers, they have more. You know, when we're out there
00:24:01.300 fighting for the future of humanity, you know, this genuinely pluralistic, ordered and functioning
00:24:07.580 society with freedom of speech, freedom of movement, some form of sacrifice to vote, all of this seems
00:24:13.220 very utopian to me when contrasted with other societies we've seen where there is no more
00:24:18.620 elevation of one ethnic group or one gender or one way of life over others. So long as you are shown 0.98
00:24:26.020 to care about your fellow man and be willing to make sacrifices to improve the quality of life,
00:24:31.140 because that's what the government's trying to do, either through protecting your fellow man
00:24:34.080 or through performing other forms of government service, protecting your fellow man.
00:24:38.180 And so I look at the scene where he shoots the thing and he's providing a valuable public service.
00:24:41.920 There really wasn't another way to easily show the easiest way to kill them, at least not vividly in
00:24:46.860 the way that a human would remember. It was a completely justified thing in context. And in the third one,
00:24:52.860 it has some of my favorite lines as well, because in the third one, the major plot theme of it is that
00:24:58.880 they realize that the insects have something like a religion and then they're like, oh, we should,
00:25:04.040 because it's implied that the government, while it had allowed some freedom of religion, religion was
00:25:08.300 really discouraged on earth. And then the government begins to embrace religion because it realizes
00:25:12.720 it's a useful tool for a well-functioning society. And they begin to really start to believe it as
00:25:18.240 they embrace it with great lines like... Across the federation, federal experts agree that
00:25:24.120 A, God exists after all. B, he's on our side. And C, he wants us to win.
00:25:30.900 And there's even more good news, believers, because it's official. God's back. And he's a citizen too.
00:25:39.200 And then it goes to this hanging of, it's like, and while religion is good, peace is not.
00:25:47.520 Bowing to a rising popularity all across the federation, Sky Marshal Fidd declares that
00:25:51.920 while religion is acceptable, peace is not.
00:25:56.120 And then it takes this peace protester for a mass hanging, who's like super coded lefty,
00:26:01.060 like he's in a wheelchair and he's like, you know, yelling and, you know, what would be called
00:26:05.280 one of those spiteful mutants, you know, these people who are by somebody like the Jolly Heretic. 0.91
00:26:09.540 In related news, peace terrorist Elmo Ganef and 51 of his closest friends were hung this morning
00:26:16.100 in what many believe to be the all-time record for executions in a single day since the 21st century.
00:26:23.720 And it's, it's, it's, and everyone's laughing at the hanging, you know, they think this is a,
00:26:28.120 is a delightful time.
00:26:29.740 But they can't silence you! 1.00
00:26:31.680 F*** the federation and f*** all of you! 1.00
00:26:33.660 You will not take my voice! 1.00
00:26:35.600 You will not take me!
00:26:36.820 You will not take away our power! 1.00
00:26:38.720 F*** you all! 1.00
00:26:39.760 F*** you! 1.00
00:26:40.600 F*** you all! 1.00
00:26:42.020 F*** this federation! 1.00
00:26:43.420 And you might be like, oh, look at how horrible this government is. 1.00
00:26:45.320 They call him a peace.
00:26:46.420 Well, what does peace mean to them?
00:26:47.580 It's not peace between man and man.
00:26:50.160 It's, it's...
00:26:50.620 It's human extinction.
00:26:51.700 It's human extinction.
00:26:52.740 That's what he's arguing for.
00:26:54.060 And you can be like, no one would argue for that.
00:26:56.080 Go online and look at the leftists talking about Starship Troopers today.
00:26:59.880 Yeah, they would.
00:27:00.880 And they're already at that mentality.
00:27:03.400 They're already at this literal bugman mentality where they prefer insects to man because they 0.54
00:27:10.140 want this world of no diversity, unity, of purpose and ideology and everything.
00:27:17.180 Their goal is the genocide of human cultural diversity and all that makes us different. 0.99
00:27:22.340 But I think that at the end of the day, in human beauty and so many of the things that
00:27:27.080 they thought that they were coding as evil in this movie.
00:27:30.060 And I even love the fashion, right?
00:27:32.460 The fashion looks great in the movie.
00:27:34.100 I love the outfits.
00:27:35.660 And aesthetic isn't intrinsically evil or good.
00:27:38.680 And the aesthetic that they chose was a pretty dope aesthetic.
00:27:42.520 Yeah, sorry.
00:27:43.300 But yeah, fashion puts the fashion fascism.
00:27:46.020 It's just too consistent.
00:27:48.560 Obviously, there's one line that is my favorite above all lines in the movie that I will always
00:27:54.600 quote.
00:27:54.900 And I think it's sort of almost sort of like religiously ingrained in us because I just
00:27:58.880 think it's such a true thing, which is to say the difference between a citizen and a
00:28:03.720 civilian is a citizen has the courage to make the safety of the human race their personal
00:28:09.220 responsibility.
00:28:09.800 And I think that when we decide who we want to engage with as human beings, what we care
00:28:16.180 about and what our real mission is, it is wrapped up in that word, making the safety of the
00:28:22.260 human race our personal responsibility in everything that we approach things.
00:28:26.480 It's not just about our group.
00:28:28.040 It's not just about people like us.
00:28:30.160 The systems that are being pushed by leftists now do not take the human race into account.
00:28:35.700 And we are trying to create an ideology and way of engaging with the world that does take
00:28:42.160 the human race first.
00:28:45.940 And I hope that this is, you know, that the leftists out themselves to people who are on
00:28:51.160 the edge about like how evil are they really or how long has this rot been going on that
00:28:56.240 a genuine leftist could have made a movie that and this is what I didn't with for leftists
00:29:01.360 who are in the comments and want to argue against us.
00:29:05.380 I'd really like you to describe within the context of the world, one genuinely negative
00:29:11.360 or genuinely fascistic thing about the governing structure of the Star Trek movie world.
00:29:18.260 And I'm not even burdening you as the books in the movie as portrayed in the movie.
00:29:23.020 What is evil about it?
00:29:24.720 They have gender equality.
00:29:26.240 They have ethnic equality.
00:29:28.160 Anyone can vote.
00:29:29.060 All they ask is that you undergo some sacrifice and you could say like, well, they talk about
00:29:33.160 the failure of democracy.
00:29:34.640 Well, I'm sorry.
00:29:36.580 Just as a passionate observer here, I would argue that most leftists would also argue
00:29:42.960 democracy has failed.
00:29:44.520 And I think most rightists think democracy is in the process of failing now.
00:29:48.380 And I don't think that that's a particularly controversial statement.
00:29:52.480 And that if we were going to come up with a plausible alternative system, one in which people
00:29:57.000 had to sacrifice in order to vote, yeah, that's one that I would consider really realistic
00:30:02.140 to me.
00:30:02.860 So I want you to explain to me what's actually evil about this system.
00:30:06.120 Not just the outfits, not just that beautiful people live in it.
00:30:09.260 What's actually wrong with it?
00:30:10.860 That people have pride in their country.
00:30:12.400 And in their case, their country is humanity because that's what it represents because it
00:30:16.180 is a one world government.
00:30:17.800 The people have pride in humanity.
00:30:19.840 Is that what makes it evil?
00:30:20.940 Is the fact that there's a hierarchy in this world what makes it evil?
00:30:26.520 Is the fact that they post scores to the screen and they're doing what's effective and it
00:30:31.200 doesn't care about individual feelings?
00:30:33.140 Is that what makes it evil?
00:30:34.860 Because I don't get it.
00:30:35.860 I don't see it.
00:30:36.940 Is it the fact that the government sponsors educational videos that are aligned with the
00:30:43.220 governance and humanity's interests at the moment?
00:30:45.200 Is that what makes it equal?
00:30:46.680 Evil?
00:30:46.920 Like, is it that you need the government to actively undermine humanity, to actively be
00:30:51.520 promoting things about how bad humans are all the time because you grew up with that
00:30:55.360 and you think that that's what a sane, normal government does?
00:30:57.860 Because that's what your government's been doing since you started the school system,
00:31:00.740 trying to indoctrinate you into hating your own country, into hating your own people.
00:31:05.940 You define that as good? 1.00
00:31:09.000 It's disgusting. 0.56
00:31:10.140 It's disgusting that anyone could look at this movie and see any evil in it because I see 0.92
00:31:14.880 none.
00:31:15.380 I think what you're missing is that some people hold a fundamentally very different value system
00:31:21.780 where any form of violence or not privileging all lives equally, be they human or not,
00:31:31.000 is seen totally differently than how you see it.
00:31:34.960 So the fact that even that there's an army that puts people in harm's way, where people
00:31:41.040 die and they even show people dying in the news, you know, like that is unthinkable, I think,
00:31:46.580 to a very large swath of people today.
00:31:49.040 Despite the fact that, like, in the past, like, I think that in World War I, there were, like,
00:31:53.160 literal ads in the UK saying, like, don't join for the wrong reason.
00:31:57.940 It was meant to be fascist propaganda and that's why it's only showing the good things.
00:32:01.480 The movie shows people, due to government blunders, dying horribly in huge, huge numbers.
00:32:08.940 It is clearly not just propagandistic.
00:32:11.760 It shows the flaws in its governing system.
00:32:14.460 But then we see the consequence of that.
00:32:16.160 The governing gets changed.
00:32:18.120 If only the US could do similar things. 0.99
00:32:21.020 You're totally missing the fact that, like, people, many people don't, don't give a shit 0.96
00:32:26.120 about whether or not the government changes or whether or not the government is transparent 0.96
00:32:31.240 about what's actually happening and mistakes being made.
00:32:34.560 What is not okay with many people, especially today, even though this is, I would say, very
00:32:40.940 unusual in human history, is the fact that people are fighting in wars and in harm's way
00:32:46.420 at all.
00:32:46.980 The fact that people who are protesting are being executed at all.
00:32:52.480 There are so many things with this movie.
00:32:54.720 The fact that scores are published in high school where those who are low performers are
00:33:00.100 made fun of is, you know, like, unthinkable.
00:33:03.760 I know we should clarify.
00:33:04.840 It's pretty implied that these are violent protests, i.e.
00:33:07.480 killing people. 0.87
00:33:08.140 It's not like protesting, protesting, because it's shown that you can disagree with the government
00:33:12.460 without being even jailed or you can disagree with the government on air.
00:33:16.980 Which is not something you see.
00:33:18.680 Yeah, but you have to keep in mind a lot of people fighting for some forms of very progressive
00:33:22.980 judicial reform now are asking for murderers to be let out of jail who are then going out
00:33:27.080 and murder again.
00:33:27.940 Like, I'm just saying, like, a very common and predominant view today, which we see to
00:33:32.480 be delusional because it definitely seems delusional and also very unusual for human behavior throughout
00:33:38.240 history, is still very commonly held.
00:33:40.740 So if you, you know, ask viewers to say, like, point out one thing that's wrong with
00:33:47.160 this government or one thing that's fascist, I mean, what they say is fascist is like, you
00:33:52.900 know, all of these things that we see is entirely innocuous or even right wing coded.
00:33:58.160 That's what they mean.
00:33:58.980 Well, yeah.
00:33:59.280 If there's national pride, I think even even national pride is seen as, quote unquote, problematic
00:34:04.580 by many progressive groups because national pride implies that you think that your nation
00:34:13.000 is better than another nation.
00:34:14.620 Well, keep in mind, national pride is pride in humanity because it's a one nation.
00:34:17.200 Well, and that's humanist or whatever.
00:34:20.140 It's yeah.
00:34:20.620 Like, I'm just saying, like, I don't think you really, I know you know, you realize how
00:34:25.120 pervasive this is.
00:34:25.700 They really do think more like the bugs than humanity.
00:34:30.300 And that's why they side with them.
00:34:32.500 But anyway, I love you to death, Simone.
00:34:34.340 And this has been a productive conversation.
00:34:36.680 I love you too, gorgeous.
00:34:38.620 And I appreciate that you are doing your part.
00:34:42.240 I'm doing my part.