Starship Troopers Proves Leftist Ideology is Evil
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In this episode, we take a look at the Star Trek: The Original Series, Starship Troopers. It's a movie that lampoons the ideas that are lampooned by leftist ideology, and yet, people like us see it as a utopia. Is this a good or bad thing?
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for leftists who are in the comments and want to argue against us. I'd really like you to describe
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within the context of the world, one genuinely negative or genuinely fascistic thing about
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the governing structure of the Star Trek movie proof world. And I'm not even burdening you as
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the books. In the movie, as portrayed in the movie, what is evil about it? They have gender equality.
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They have ethnic equality. Anyone can vote. All they ask is that you undergo some sacrifice.
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And you could say like, well, they talk about the failure of democracy. Well, I'm sorry. Just as a
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passionate observer here, I would argue that most leftists would also argue democracy has failed.
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I want you to explain to me what's actually evil about this system. Not just the outfits,
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what's actually wrong with it. That people have pride in their country. And in their case,
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their country is humanity because that's what it represents because it is a one world government.
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The people have pride in humanity. Is that what makes it evil? Like, is it that you need the
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government to actively undermine humanity, to actively be promoting things about how bad
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humans are all the time because you grew up with that and you think that that's what a sane,
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normal government does because that's what your government's been doing since you started the
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school system trying to indoctrinate you into hating your own country, into hating your own people.
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If the far left was telling the truth and gender and ethnic equality was what they were really
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fighting for, the Starship Troopers universe would be a utopia to them. They show in their hatred of
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it that they were never telling the truth, that what they really want is not a world of equality,
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but a world where people like them no longer need to make sacrifices to get things in life or to
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exercise power over others. Would you like to know more?
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Hello, Simone. So every one of our episodes starts with a little sound clip from one of our favorite
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movies, Starship Troopers. And it's a really fascinating movie, especially in terms of how
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they've been talked about in the public discourse today, because people are pointing out that it was
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made to lampoon fascism. And yet the leftists see it as being taken as like the guard, like the honor
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guard, people like us, who they would consider fascists or something like that, actually seeing a lot of
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great lessons from it, seeing a lot of great ideas in it. And they're like, look at how dumb they are
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believing that there are great ideas in a movie that was made to ridicule those ideas.
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And this to me is a great instance of the left telling on itself, because I think that Starship
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Troopers as a movie, and we're going to go into this, is one of the best condemnation of a leftist
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ideology I have ever seen, in that they thought that they were creating a movie that lampooned
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the ideas that were being brought up in it in this movie. It really reminds me of a video we did on
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the Barbie movie being one of the most anti-woke movies I've ever seen, with examples in this being
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that when Ken comes to the human world, he keeps looking for patriarchy and can't find it, like he
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finds women doctors, everything like that. The only place he's able to find evidence of a patriarchy
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is in a high school library, not even a public library. What we are teaching our children is the
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only place the patriarchy exists. And then he enforces that within his world, and we go into
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a bunch of other stuff. But I'm just saying, like, it is so obvious. There is almost no way
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to honestly watch the Barbie movie and take away anything but an incredibly based message.
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I don't know. People take away what they want to take away.
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Well, no, but I mean, honestly, watch it. Honestly, watch the way it's engaging with themes and the
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messages that it's putting across. And I think that this is true with the Starship Troopers movie as
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well. So you have this guy, Van der Hoeven, who started reading the book Starship Troopers,
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which is a great book. It's one of the considered like one of the best books in history for people
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who don't know. It's one of, I think, the only sci-fi book allowed to be read was in US military
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for a while. And it's on alternate governance theory. It's more of a book on governance philosophy,
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which, you know, we're nerds about because we wrote a book on governance philosophy. But he started
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reading it and he didn't like it. He didn't like the ideas put across in it. And he saw them as fascist,
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in his mindset. And so when he was tasked with writing a movie about it, he wanted to lampoon
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these ideas. The problem was, is he also honestly conveyed them well enough that there is actually
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nothing evil about the government system that he portrays in this world. I mean, keep in mind,
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this is an elected government system. Anyone in the Starship Troopers universe can earn the right
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to vote. All you need to do is either engage in government service through, you know, some sort
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of government activity or join the military. There's two pathways. This is made clear in the
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book. And they don't specifically change this in the movie. They don't say that there's not the
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other pathway. So we assume that it still happens because it follows broadly the same beats of the
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book. And if you're like disabled or mentally disabled, they find a way to allow you to still
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earn your vote. You just have to earn it, which is very different from a fascist state.
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And not just vote, like also the right to have kids, et cetera.
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Well, it gets easier, they say. They say you can still get the right to have kids if you're not
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a citizen, but you have to earn it. And so the point here being is that it is a government that
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asks things of its citizens. And this is seen as holistically evil to the far left. So evil that
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they thought that's all they needed to do to have that. And then the aesthetics of what they see as
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fascism, i.e. like long black coats. And now the government system being depicted in the movie is
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evil. Even though it's diverse, it's competent, it's meritocratic. They appear to have a free press
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system. You see people disagreeing with government tactics within the state media. You see freedom of
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movement. So a really interesting thing is leftists when they watch this, they're like,
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humanity started the war. Do you remember how the war was started, Simone, by the way? Because
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it's conveyed in both the movie and the books. Space Mormons. Space Mormons. But what did they do?
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They settled in a place that was kind of off limits that they should not have been.
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They disagree. But the government was so not fascist, not like evil military fascists,
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that they were able to do this. They were able to have ideas that went against the world government's
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ideas and act on those ideas. The war was started because the world was a world in which freedom
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of speech, freedom of movement, and freedom of religion were allowed. That's why the war was
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started. And the Bugs, having this ultra-communist mindset, couldn't understand that this one faction
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of humanity was acting in a way that the rest of humanity didn't condone of. And I've loved in
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leftists, because the great thing about seeing leftists defend us is they're defending insects
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over humans, saying that these insects are in the right and humans are in the wrong. And they'll do
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things like one video I saw, which was insane, it said that the attack on Buenos Aires was a false flag
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attack. So if you understand what that means, they were arguing that basically it was a fascist
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government. It could only stay and maintain power if they had an enemy to fight. So they attacked
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themselves to blame it on the insects. Except we can see in the movie that very clearly isn't the
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case. Do you remember the scene that proves that that's not the case? No, actually, I don't. Remind
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me. So the big spaceship carrier that the girl is flying in, the part of the plot, you know, the
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people spit up and it's this big spaceship carrier flying very, very far from Earth. In fact, it's so
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far, it's out of contact range once its satellite is knocked off with the other human colonies, gets
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hit by the asteroid on its way to Earth. It scrapes the top, remember, and they have to do the last
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minute maneuver. But this meant that the asteroid was coming from outside of our system. So it
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definitely wasn't sent by the US government. And then people are like, well, then it must have come
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from too far away or something like that. Well, you don't know that the bugs didn't have, you know,
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more close sort of warning systems to attack humanity. And maybe even were preparing for more
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of an assault because they saw also the threat and the Mormon settlement triggered that. Nothing in the
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movie is at all evidence that there was any sort of disingenuousness on part of humanity.
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Simone, do you want your thoughts before I go further with this?
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Another part that I found absolutely hilarious. So Vanderhoeven, the guy who directed this,
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when he was choosing casting for the movie, he wanted it to be very sort of obvious that it was
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supposed to be an evil government and evil people. And so the way that he demonstrated this
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was by choosing beautiful actors, beautiful fit actors. He thought it would be obvious,
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like a Nazi propaganda film, if he chose beautiful actors. And I love the distortion of the leftist
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mindset this shows. And I'm like, it shows how leftists tell themselves, if he thought by choosing,
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like that he equivocates human beauty with evil.
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Equivocates human beauty with evil. That he sees beautiful people and he goes, oh,
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that's obviously evil. He sees a government structure in which unlike wish, you know,
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like Disney saying, oh, if a person demands one sacrifice from somebody on the behalf of the
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greater good of society, that that means he's evil. That means that an individual is evil. If
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the smallest amount is asked from anyone, then that is evil. And to sort of worship this
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constant indulgence, this, this ugliness of humanity is so telling of the way that what
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left actually thinks, but created this movie, that's just fun and gets across a lot of interesting
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ideas. Well, one of the things I wanted to do here was read some of like the quotes I've seen
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online about this, because it will give you an idea of just how like crazy people are about this.
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So a person says, I rewatched the classroom scene in Starship Troopers and the teacher literally
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talks about how democracy was a failed experiment and force slash violence is the ultimate means
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of power. Emphasis on force and direct action is one of the features of fascism. I swear people
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simping for the government just shows how effective the film operates as a piece of fascist propaganda.
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And I get it. Fascism does a great job of it appealing to values like strengths, duty, patriotism,
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et cetera. Do people really think fascists saw themselves as evil? Obviously there are reasons
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people get behind these movements. I want to go to the reply because I think it's, it's hilarious
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because it's so true. Yes, all power can be reduced to an expression of force. Acknowledging this
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is just accepting truth. Crowdsourcing the application of violence to a government via quote unquote
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democracy does not dilute this fact. So people who are unfamiliar with governance theory may
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not know this, but it is broadly accepted within governance theory that even democracies, the state
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has a monopoly on violence. The state can commit violence without any real repercussions so long
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as it is within the rules that the state decides. I.e. the state can murder someone, for example.
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The state can come into your home and steal stuff from you. The state can even demand you just give
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it stuff. And so when you are exercising control of how the state exerts its monopoly on violence,
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i.e. voting, you are committing a form of violence within this interpretation of statecraft. And this
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is like normal democratic thinking. This person is just unfamiliar that the person who wrote the initial
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thing saying that the state having monopoly on violence is purely a fascist way of relating to
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government is just a profoundly uneducated person. The difference lies in the field of civic virtue.
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A citizen accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic of which he is a member
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defending it if need be with his life. The civilian does not. They're quoting the movie there.
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You are not acting in violence on part of one, but on the whole. And then quote, whether it's exerted by
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10 or 10 billion, political authority is violence to a degree, the people we call citizens have earned
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the right to wield it. And then the person goes on to say, and you wield it by voting. And this is
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well-known in government theory. Voting is a form of violence, right? And then it's a quote here,
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quote, when you vote, you are exercising political authority. You're using force. And force, my friends,
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is violence, the supreme authority from which all authority derives. This is a quote from the movie,
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end quote. And you can only vote when you commit yourself to service to the federation. I think
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another really interesting point that somebody makes here is, then how is it that even in the
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movie, Johnny Rico's parents are fantastically wealthy while being proudly non-citizens? If this
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were a fascist system, then they wouldn't have had the right to speak negatively about the government,
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nor would they have been allowed to become so wealthy. Fascism is literally the marriage of
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industry and state where nothing is outside the state and everything is for the state.
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The real issue here is so many people refuse to accept the definition of fascism that was created
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by fascism's inventor, Benito Mussolini. Even so-called experts refuse to the true definition
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of words. Mussolini said many times that criticizing the government under fascism is treaty, and nobody
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has the right to vote for or against anything. Yet even in the movie, they often talked about voting
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and criticizing the government and its reporting, none of which would have been allowed under fascism.
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So what's interesting here is this is similar to leftist ideas about racism, where they define
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racism as anything other than a leftist interpretation of race. You know, I'll often point out,
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I'm like, well, I don't look down on black people. I have lots of black friends. And they're like,
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well, that's not, that's not not being a racist. You can still be racist and have those things.
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And I'm like, no, what you really just mean is you have defined racism as left-wing ideology.
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They have defined fascism as anything that looks aesthetically right-leaning to them.
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And because of that, they cannot see the world of Starship Troopers. It's actually probably one of
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the best worlds in terms of like quality of life, actual freedom of any of the star worlds I'm familiar
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with. It's certainly better than life under the Star Wars universe or any of the, even like the
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good Republic. It had, you know, slavery happening around it and stuff like that. It was not like a
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great, they had enormous poverty. It had, you know, all sorts of problems. Even, you know, people are
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like, well, what about the post-scarcity of the Federation? Right. I'm like, okay, the world that you
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are introduced to on the Federation is mostly the world of military Starships. It's a world where
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the force of science in that world, like all scientists have effectively been militarized
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and serve on military Starships and are basically completely brainwashed into the government's way
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of thinking. Yeah. It's post-scarcity on the Starships of what is, at least from what I can tell,
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basically an actual fascist government because you're like, well, how do you know it's fascist?
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You know, they have voting on, on earth and stuff like that. I don't really see anyone ever disagreeing
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with the government. They may have voting, but it seems to me like they're, maybe they're using an AI
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lattice to prevent real dissent or something. Um, but yeah, it, it is a much more fascist coded world.
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So, especially in the way that it, it, yeah. Anyway, I want you to talk a bit to this stuff.
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Well, you're not really talking about aspects of the movie that like I
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what appeals to me in the movie is how based it is and, and how realistic it is in some ways too.
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Like I, I find a lot of what makes me excited about Starship Troopers in that general universe
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is how much it reminds me of the 1950s Coronet films tutorials that I'm so obsessed with.
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And that it's like extremely practical. Like people are not delusional about what they can
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achieve. People are very practical about what they are allowed to access or not. There isn't
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a lot of entitlement in the world. It's more like, oh, I want to take this path or, and I'm able to
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take this path and that's what I'm going to do. And I'm going to be proud of it, which I really like.
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I really like the sort of practicality of it in ways that like, what would leftists find so hateful
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about the movie? Like another thing they'd probably really hate is the scene where all of their scores
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are shown against each other. So they know where they rank in the class and that can be like brought
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up and enlarged. That's a good thing. We should go back to that. But to a leftist, that's a form of
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violence because you are hurting the people who didn't put in the effort to do as well.
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Or the leftist is admitting that some people are born smarter than others. And then you get into the
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whole genetics of that, which is something else they don't admit, you know, so many
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contradicting views. But no, I think that that's an enormously good way to motivate people to do
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better. Peer pressure in a high school environment is, is really motivating.
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Yeah. I've also really liked the way that a lot of things just aren't cared about,
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that people don't make a big deal out of the fact that grades are publicly posted,
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that men and women, you know, shower together in locker rooms and it's not a big deal.
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Oh wait, it's a completely post-gender society.
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Which is weird because like a lot of, I would say a lot of progressives are fighting for a
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post-gender society. They're fighting for gender, gender neutral bathrooms. They're fighting for
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gender neutral locker rooms. And I'm like, yeah, and they're here. And this is how they're done
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right. Which is like, it's not an issue. Well, this is totally post-racial and post-gender.
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Women are given no special status in this world to create equality. And it's the same with
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different ethnic groups. Everyone is actually treated equally, which to a leftist is racism
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because they redefine the term racism. To a leftist, that is sexism because they're all just,
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you know, you wouldn't even have a trans issue here because everyone uses the same bathrooms
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But I think there would be fewer trans people in this world because they're just,
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there's so little functional difference between the genders. So like, why would you bother?
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I mean, like women still look feminine. They have slightly different, I mean, slightly different
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uniforms, but it is really impressive how representation in governmental leadership in
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the military and all factions of the military are very gender equal. And this is not to say that people
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don't have romantic relationships or compete, you know, like two men compete against each other for
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the same moment, for example. But I just, I find that so refreshing and wonderful. And I think this is,
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I was just listening to an episode of blocked and reported and which is one of my favorite podcasts in
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which the hosts, Jesse and Katie were discussing how sometimes like raising awareness about an issue
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can just make it so much worse. And if you just don't make it a big deal, people just let it happen.
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Whereas if you make a big deal out of it, then it becomes polarized. Then there's baggage. Then there's a
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war involved. And suddenly the thing becomes non-functional. This happened, for example, they were
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pointing out. And I thought this was really interesting with the, oh God, what was it called?
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The, the vaccine that we, that we got for not getting cervical cancer.
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It doesn't matter. The cervical cancer vaccine.
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Yeah. But anyway, yeah, I, I love that. And I love that's like, and also the lines in it are so
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good. And I think it's one of those movies where like, we can see how even someone who hates
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propaganda and, and hates like national pride in depicting it makes it just so attractive.
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Like the first movie starts out with like a propaganda video, you know, of like a news
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bulletin from the government. And it just has so many wonderful, catchy elements. Of course,
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one of them being our podcast. Do you want to know more? But there's also so many slogans.
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I want to talk about two things you talked about here. One is, you know, you talk about gender
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equality. It's shown multiple times. The Sky Marshall of this world is a woman. And I think
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they're actually replaced, replaced with a black woman, right? Like when they're replacing them
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with a more competent one, because they do a bad job, they get replaced. And it was Sky Marshall
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Tahat Maru. So even a non-Western, you know, this is pretty obviously an African name. So this is a
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Well, and the main characters in the beginning are not in America. They're in Latin America.
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Yeah. It's so actually pluralistic that the leftists can't like, when you, where are the,
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where are all like the Federation capitals? Where are all the Federation scenes? They're
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like in San Francisco. They're like in New York. It's an incredibly Eurocentric world.
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Whereas there's a world that they make, and that's where we're attacked. And I'd also hear,
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note the propaganda films. This is another thing leftists complain about. Like they are annoyed
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at the scene where you have the government PSYOPs organization, and they're releasing a video
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about how best to kill arachnids. And then they show them shooting one of the bugs on screen with
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useful information to people, humans that are putting themselves in harm way, fighting an
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aggressive species that attacked us. One, what started the war, we settled on lands that they
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claimed were theirs. Like it wasn't even direct competition. And two, it wasn't even, you know,
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licensed by the government. So they are completely in the wrong for this. You know, they could have
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just tried to talk to us. It was shown they had the capacity for this in Starship Trooper 3.
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And one thing I quite like in Starship Trooper 3 is it also shows how, even when they're trying to
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act their best, evil the bugs are because of different conceptions about life because they're
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a hive mind. And so when they're trying to like talk to the humans, finally, in one scene,
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it's this horrifying scene where it's a bunch of puppeted bodies on like tentacles talking to
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somebody of like their dead friends. And it's like, well, I thought these would be good things
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to talk to you with because you were friends with them. And, you know, like your comrades,
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right? Like it has such a small understanding of humanity that it thinks that that's how you kill
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a person's friends and then puppet their corpses. Yeah. So they're familiar.
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Like I love that. But that also shows why they didn't understand what was happening with the
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Mormons and stuff like that. But it is because they are a lesser form of life than the pluralistic
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humanity. They are the hive mind that the ultra progressive pines for. But in this scene where
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he's shooting it, I'm like, I see literally within the ethics of the universe. No problem with that.
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This is an aggressive species. It's pretty obvious that individually, the type of arachnid that he was
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killing is not a sentient entity, that only as a hive mind are they sentient entities. This is shown
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from the perception of the arachnids. Maybe a brain bug is a sentient entity because the psychics were able
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to talk to them, but they're not able to talk to or read the other insects that's shown when they
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can even communicate with things like ferrets easily. So if they're able to easily communicate
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with a ferret, that means that this arachnid was less intelligent than a ferret. And then they're
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like, well, they're stomping bugs on screen. It's like, okay, like actual cockroaches, like human
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world cockroaches, I guess call PETA, you know? And even like looking down on your enemy at something
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that isn't elevated in the show, there's a dissection scene where one of the girls is talking
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down on insects. And the biology teacher who is working for the government is saying that you
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shouldn't look down on insects. They can be just as complicated and sophisticated as humanity.
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And- I know, but one of my favorite, you know, like propaganda lines is still, the only good bug is a
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dead bug. Dead bug. All right. I love, we're in this for the species, boys and girls. And I always say
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that to like you, like when we're, it's simple numbers, they have more. You know, when we're out there
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fighting for the future of humanity, you know, this genuinely pluralistic, ordered and functioning
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society with freedom of speech, freedom of movement, some form of sacrifice to vote, all of this seems
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very utopian to me when contrasted with other societies we've seen where there is no more
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elevation of one ethnic group or one gender or one way of life over others. So long as you are shown
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to care about your fellow man and be willing to make sacrifices to improve the quality of life,
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because that's what the government's trying to do, either through protecting your fellow man
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or through performing other forms of government service, protecting your fellow man.
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And so I look at the scene where he shoots the thing and he's providing a valuable public service.
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There really wasn't another way to easily show the easiest way to kill them, at least not vividly in
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the way that a human would remember. It was a completely justified thing in context. And in the third one,
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it has some of my favorite lines as well, because in the third one, the major plot theme of it is that
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they realize that the insects have something like a religion and then they're like, oh, we should,
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because it's implied that the government, while it had allowed some freedom of religion, religion was
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really discouraged on earth. And then the government begins to embrace religion because it realizes
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it's a useful tool for a well-functioning society. And they begin to really start to believe it as
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they embrace it with great lines like... Across the federation, federal experts agree that
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A, God exists after all. B, he's on our side. And C, he wants us to win.
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And there's even more good news, believers, because it's official. God's back. And he's a citizen too.
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And then it goes to this hanging of, it's like, and while religion is good, peace is not.
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Bowing to a rising popularity all across the federation, Sky Marshal Fidd declares that
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And then it takes this peace protester for a mass hanging, who's like super coded lefty,
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like he's in a wheelchair and he's like, you know, yelling and, you know, what would be called
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one of those spiteful mutants, you know, these people who are by somebody like the Jolly Heretic.
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In related news, peace terrorist Elmo Ganef and 51 of his closest friends were hung this morning
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in what many believe to be the all-time record for executions in a single day since the 21st century.
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And it's, it's, it's, and everyone's laughing at the hanging, you know, they think this is a,
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And you might be like, oh, look at how horrible this government is.
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And you can be like, no one would argue for that.
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Go online and look at the leftists talking about Starship Troopers today.
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They're already at this literal bugman mentality where they prefer insects to man because they
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want this world of no diversity, unity, of purpose and ideology and everything.
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Their goal is the genocide of human cultural diversity and all that makes us different.
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But I think that at the end of the day, in human beauty and so many of the things that
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they thought that they were coding as evil in this movie.
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And aesthetic isn't intrinsically evil or good.
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And the aesthetic that they chose was a pretty dope aesthetic.
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Obviously, there's one line that is my favorite above all lines in the movie that I will always
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And I think it's sort of almost sort of like religiously ingrained in us because I just
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think it's such a true thing, which is to say the difference between a citizen and a
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civilian is a citizen has the courage to make the safety of the human race their personal
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And I think that when we decide who we want to engage with as human beings, what we care
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about and what our real mission is, it is wrapped up in that word, making the safety of the
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human race our personal responsibility in everything that we approach things.
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The systems that are being pushed by leftists now do not take the human race into account.
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And we are trying to create an ideology and way of engaging with the world that does take
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And I hope that this is, you know, that the leftists out themselves to people who are on
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the edge about like how evil are they really or how long has this rot been going on that
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a genuine leftist could have made a movie that and this is what I didn't with for leftists
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who are in the comments and want to argue against us.
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I'd really like you to describe within the context of the world, one genuinely negative
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or genuinely fascistic thing about the governing structure of the Star Trek movie world.
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And I'm not even burdening you as the books in the movie as portrayed in the movie.
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All they ask is that you undergo some sacrifice and you could say like, well, they talk about
00:29:36.580
Just as a passionate observer here, I would argue that most leftists would also argue
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And I think most rightists think democracy is in the process of failing now.
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And I don't think that that's a particularly controversial statement.
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And that if we were going to come up with a plausible alternative system, one in which people
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had to sacrifice in order to vote, yeah, that's one that I would consider really realistic
00:30:02.860
So I want you to explain to me what's actually evil about this system.
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Not just the outfits, not just that beautiful people live in it.
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And in their case, their country is humanity because that's what it represents because it
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Is the fact that there's a hierarchy in this world what makes it evil?
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Is the fact that they post scores to the screen and they're doing what's effective and it
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Is it the fact that the government sponsors educational videos that are aligned with the
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governance and humanity's interests at the moment?
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Like, is it that you need the government to actively undermine humanity, to actively be
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promoting things about how bad humans are all the time because you grew up with that
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and you think that that's what a sane, normal government does?
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Because that's what your government's been doing since you started the school system,
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trying to indoctrinate you into hating your own country, into hating your own people.
00:31:10.140
It's disgusting that anyone could look at this movie and see any evil in it because I see
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I think what you're missing is that some people hold a fundamentally very different value system
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where any form of violence or not privileging all lives equally, be they human or not,
00:31:31.000
is seen totally differently than how you see it.
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So the fact that even that there's an army that puts people in harm's way, where people
00:31:41.040
die and they even show people dying in the news, you know, like that is unthinkable, I think,
00:31:49.040
Despite the fact that, like, in the past, like, I think that in World War I, there were, like,
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literal ads in the UK saying, like, don't join for the wrong reason.
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It was meant to be fascist propaganda and that's why it's only showing the good things.
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The movie shows people, due to government blunders, dying horribly in huge, huge numbers.
00:32:21.020
You're totally missing the fact that, like, people, many people don't, don't give a shit
00:32:26.120
about whether or not the government changes or whether or not the government is transparent
00:32:31.240
about what's actually happening and mistakes being made.
00:32:34.560
What is not okay with many people, especially today, even though this is, I would say, very
00:32:40.940
unusual in human history, is the fact that people are fighting in wars and in harm's way
00:32:46.980
The fact that people who are protesting are being executed at all.
00:32:54.720
The fact that scores are published in high school where those who are low performers are
00:33:04.840
It's pretty implied that these are violent protests, i.e.
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It's not like protesting, protesting, because it's shown that you can disagree with the government
00:33:12.460
without being even jailed or you can disagree with the government on air.
00:33:18.680
Yeah, but you have to keep in mind a lot of people fighting for some forms of very progressive
00:33:22.980
judicial reform now are asking for murderers to be let out of jail who are then going out
00:33:27.940
Like, I'm just saying, like, a very common and predominant view today, which we see to
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be delusional because it definitely seems delusional and also very unusual for human behavior throughout
00:33:40.740
So if you, you know, ask viewers to say, like, point out one thing that's wrong with
00:33:47.160
this government or one thing that's fascist, I mean, what they say is fascist is like, you
00:33:52.900
know, all of these things that we see is entirely innocuous or even right wing coded.
00:33:59.280
If there's national pride, I think even even national pride is seen as, quote unquote, problematic
00:34:04.580
by many progressive groups because national pride implies that you think that your nation
00:34:14.620
Well, keep in mind, national pride is pride in humanity because it's a one nation.
00:34:20.620
Like, I'm just saying, like, I don't think you really, I know you know, you realize how
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They really do think more like the bugs than humanity.