Based Camp - Targeted Migration Campaigns： Why They Will Make a Comeback

00:00:00.000 Hello, Malcolm. I'm so glad to be with you today because we are going to talk about something I

00:00:05.040 found quite intriguing the other day. Picture this. What if countries and cities started fighting

00:00:10.520 over you, offering cash, land, and even your own laws just to get you to move there? From Canada

00:00:16.240 and Mexico luring Mennonites with special privileges to Tulsa, Oklahoma, paying remote

00:00:21.360 workers to relocate. Targeted immigration is actually quietly reshaping the world, and it 0.88

00:00:25.860 has been for maybe hundreds of years. Yeah, this is a huge thing. I see many, as fertility collapse

00:00:31.580 is going on, and what a lot of people, you know, misunderstand about fertility collapse is they

00:00:36.620 think it's a problem of warm bodies. It's not a problem of warm bodies. No, this is about getting

00:00:40.440 the people that you want to your country to do certain things. Right. But the whole thing that

00:00:46.280 we need to talk about here is what makes a family or a community so desirable that governments compete

00:00:51.040 to attract them. Like, people don't realize that this isn't just like, oh, we're opening our borders

00:00:55.380 to solve this problem. No, it's, we want Mennonites. We want bougie couples who are dinks. 1.00

00:01:02.220 We want... Let's talk about how this problem 0.99

00:01:04.200 creates itself, okay? So the problem creates itself. It's uniquely bad now because it is the

00:01:10.900 communities that are more economically productive and the groups that are more economically productive

00:01:14.260 that are undergoing fertility rate collapse the fastest. Yeah. But in a historic context,

00:01:18.920 you also had this problem. Luring one immigrant group into your country was not seen as the

00:01:24.820 same as luring another immigrant group into your country. Some immigrant groups were seen as more

00:01:29.320 desirable because they were more desirable. They created more economic prosperity or did more

00:01:34.600 development than other groups. So let's get into which groups are which. Yeah, absolutely. And well,

00:01:40.540 and how in a post-demographic collapse world, you want your family culture to be such that you

00:01:47.420 basically have your pick of the litter in terms of what country or charter city or techno feudalist empire

00:01:54.880 you go to because you want, you want the keys to the kingdom. You don't want to be that deformed 1.00

00:02:01.980 post-apocalyptic family living in the borderlands. Also like this is, I think one thing that's important

00:02:10.560 to talk about before we move forward is we recently had a podcast talking about how Hillary Clinton sort of

00:02:16.700 espoused this idea that, well, it's immigrants who have all the kids and the obvious solution to 1.00

00:02:22.040 demographic collapse is immigration. And isn't it so crazy that the Trump administration is deporting

00:02:27.440 people? And then one of our podcast followers tweeted us a report in 2000 by the UN population

00:02:34.000 division. It was, it was titled replacement migration is, is it a solution to declining and aging

00:02:39.320 populations? And this is definitely one of the most common rebuttals that we get to,

00:02:45.000 oh no population decline. And then the answer from so many, mostly uninformed people is,

00:02:51.680 oh, just solve it with immigration. There are many, many, many issues with that. But I do want

00:02:55.980 to point out that even this 2000 report from the UN, which I would say is one of the more bullish

00:03:01.140 groups on like immigration, solving the problem, plus also demographical options in the problem,

00:03:06.840 it's going down slowly. And then they're always wrong with their projections. But basically that

00:03:10.780 report explored the potential role of international immigration and migration and addressing population

00:03:16.320 decline and aging. And the conclusion actually of the report is that while immigration can help

00:03:21.240 mitigate the effects of the trends, the scale of migration required to significantly alter population

00:03:26.400 size and age structure is likely unrealistic and potentially unsustainable. Now that coming from 0.90

00:03:31.340 the UN is basically them admitting it's not going to work at all. For them being like, well,

00:03:35.580 it might not, it might not be sustainable to like really solve the problem. It means that it really

00:03:40.340 isn't going to work, but that doesn't mean that countries aren't going to try. And also again,

00:03:45.420 just because this is something that countries have turned to for a long time. And this is what I had

00:03:49.140 no idea about was these like niche examples also have targeted migration. So let's talk about

00:03:55.180 Canada and Mennonites. Okay. Cause I just had no idea about this until yesterday when I started digging

00:04:00.580 into it. So in the 1800s, so this is a long time ago, someone in Canada's government was like those

00:04:08.520 dudes, we want the Mennonites. How do we get these Mennonites? And they made this package of, of special

00:04:15.160 privileges just to attract them. So they actively recruited Mennonites in the 1800s, particularly from

00:04:21.860 Russia, interestingly, by offering what they called it a privilegium, a formal agreement, just like,

00:04:28.360 I mean, really targeted for them. It guaranteed exemption from military service, the right to run

00:04:33.280 private schools, religious freedom, and land grants for settlement. And they were designed both to

00:04:38.340 attract hardworking agricultural settlers to develop Canadian West, which makes sense why like targeted

00:04:43.420 Russian Mennonites. Cause they're like, these, these dudes can handle the cold. They'll be okay.

00:04:49.040 I was looking for a group of people to develop like Canadian agricultural land. Yeah. Russian 1.00

00:04:54.260 Mennonites. Yeah. They're like the, the Scottish cows. 0.94

00:04:57.520 Oh, sorry. People don't know what the Mennonites are. It's like a, they're Anabaptist, which means 1.00

00:05:01.940 they're related to the Amish. They're basically Amish. They're, they're slightly less strict than

00:05:06.460 the Amish. So depending on the Mennonite group and a lot of the groups that I've been looking at

00:05:10.760 recently are much more conservative, almost Amish like in, in, in how strict they are, but you're more 0.98

00:05:16.800 likely to see Mennonites owning cars, some select machinery. Like they're, I think they're more 0.96

00:05:21.660 consequentialist than deontological when it comes to Anabaptism where they're like, all right,

00:05:26.780 like this machine actually isn't that worldly. It's just helping me do my job.

00:05:30.780 So I'm going to be okay with it. But anyway, the, the long-term impact and changes of this,

00:05:36.440 it's interesting over time. So a bunch of, a bunch of Mennonites came over to Canada and there

00:05:41.000 still are a lot of Mennonites in Canada. But then over time, Canada started to erode these privileges,

00:05:48.120 like especially concerning private education, which also was a problem with indigenous populations,

00:05:53.280 but no one talks about Canada and their immigrant populations. Those also had some rights to private

00:05:59.340 education eroded. So I think that's also interesting that Canada was equal opportunity and it's taking

00:06:05.140 children and trying to homogenize them. So no, I think they basically betrayed their Mennonite 0.75

00:06:10.140 population. They totally did, which led to significant Mennonite immigration from Canada to Mexico and South 0.98

00:06:15.040 America in the 1920s. Also during World War I, anti-German sentiment led to a temporary ban on

00:06:20.860 Mennonite immigration. So Canada just got like super mean Mennonites, but the original privilegium 0.97

00:06:27.540 that like set of, of that 1873 set of privileges that they used to target Russian Mennonites remained 0.74

00:06:34.760 a touchstone for Mennonite claims to conscientious objector status during both world wars. So they 0.57

00:06:39.940 still got to use parts of it, just not all of it. And this, I just want to highlight for later

00:06:44.600 discussion, as we talk about what you need to be, to be a desirable population and have the keys to the

00:06:49.560 kingdom, is that you also have to be prepared for an erosion of promises made. And this is a thing

00:06:56.100 that's just going to come up again and again. So let's not, but now, okay, it's the 1920s, right?

00:07:00.240 Canada's being a dick to the Mennonites. Where do they go? Well, Latin America is like, oh, so these 1.00

00:07:05.960 guys develop land and are productive and they, they, you know, produce good agricultural goods. Like

00:07:11.520 I want them. So they started offering privilegium and Mexico was one of the first to really get on the

00:07:16.720 bandwagon. And also like the Mennonites didn't have to go as far to get there. So like Mexico was a 0.79

00:07:21.660 really popular first destination for them and a ton of Mennonites settled there. So Mexico's offer

00:07:26.940 of state finance migration, which was kind of how like some AIs were describing it to me. And I'm

00:07:31.060 like, well, what is state finance migration? The, the offer of state finance migration to Mennonites

00:07:35.860 in the 1920s was not direct financial support in the form of cash payments or government funded travel,

00:07:40.400 but rather a comprehensive package of incentives and privileges designed to attract and facilitate

00:07:44.780 Mennonite settlement. Here's how the Mexican government supported Mennonite migration.

00:07:49.200 So one, they offered land access and sales at very favorable terms. So they're like,

00:07:54.300 you know, here's this big tract of land. Like it's yours. We're going to make it easy. We're not

00:07:58.140 going to, I mean, because buying land in foreign countries can be very difficult. I just want to

00:08:02.660 lay that out there. So the Mexican government agreed to sell large tracts of land to Mennonite

00:08:07.100 settlers at very reasonable prices. And specifically in Northern states of Chihuahua and Durango,

00:08:11.580 which is where you'll still see some of these populations. And that's because these were

00:08:16.040 actually at the time, and we're talking 1920s, suffering from economic and demographic decline.

00:08:23.500 Really? Well, the 1920s did have a major demographic issue that we talked about before that was only

00:08:28.780 really solved by the baby boom, which seems to have mostly been a result of improving medical

00:08:33.420 technology. Yeah. And well, this, this specific one, especially in those regions was resulting from

00:08:36.820 the Mexican revolution, but still like, also this is just to be clear, countries experiencing

00:08:42.040 demographic decline and economic decline in regions or even universally is not a new concept.

00:08:47.740 And immigration is like the first thing where you're like, oh, let's just import the problem. 0.81

00:08:52.360 Like we'll import a solution, but then you just similar. Yeah. Go ahead.

00:08:56.660 Mennonites are an action. If you're going to import a group to like develop a region, 0.99

00:09:00.960 Mennonites are a great group to import because they are pathologically pacifistic. While they 1.00

00:09:07.520 will not acculturate into your culture, they also will not prey on your culture and attempt to take

00:09:12.800 converts. Yeah. They are a group that is pacifist that won't seek converts and will just grow and

00:09:18.300 develop land and contribute economically. I won't seek converts. Yeah. For the most part,

00:09:22.440 we'll get into that. We'll get into one instance in which they did convert.

00:09:25.240 Two. Well, two, two. So yeah, but so Canada, sorry, Mexico, similar to Canada also offered

00:09:31.500 the legal and social privileges that Mennonites really need to be able to settle somewhere. 0.98

00:09:36.060 So through a formal agreement with president Alvaro, sorry, Alvaro Obregon, Mennonites were 1.00

00:09:42.220 granted exemption from military service, very important freedom to operate in their own schools

00:09:46.320 and teach their own language, full religious liberty, the right to dispose of property as they wished

00:09:51.640 and no taxes for 100 years. There's some speculation about it, but that's a freaking huge

00:09:58.920 draw. Wait, no taxes for 100 years for Mennonites? 0.97

00:10:03.840 Yeah. Yeah. And I have three citations on that. I can give them to you if you want. Like this,

00:10:07.620 there's, this is documented. There, there is, there's, this is according to some accounts,

00:10:11.920 but I mean, I bet that, I mean, at least some government officials were like, yeah, don't worry

00:10:15.200 about it. Just don't, don't pay taxes. There's such insular communities that I could see like 1.00

00:10:18.840 them. Yeah. Let me guess. They like immediately went back on that after like a few decades.

00:10:24.280 Maybe. So here's another important thing though, is the government also provided military and police

00:10:29.860 protection for Mennonite colonies when conflicts arose with local populations and bandits. So when

00:10:36.260 they first came over in the 1920s, despite the Mennonites being pacifist, because they were going to

00:10:42.240 fairly like wild west regions, they even got protection from the government. And that's pretty

00:10:47.260 big too. I mean, that's a, that's a wonderful privilege, but we'll see how that, how that ended

00:10:51.080 up. Beyond that though, they had a political. In rural Mexico, not well. I mean, you know,

00:10:57.180 but officials at both the local and federal levels often intervene to resolve land disputes in favor

00:11:01.740 of Mennonites, sometimes using force to remove other claimants from lands that were purchased by

00:11:05.980 Mennonites. So this is like, they were really going above and beyond to be like, nah, man, these dudes are

00:11:11.340 going to like actually do something productive with this land. It's theirs. You are out. And this is their

00:11:16.920 own citizens. So this is this, I think this is a really good illustration of how far a company's

00:11:24.280 or sorry, a country or company that becomes a nation's stakeholder will be a wingman for you.

00:11:29.860 If they think that you are desirable, like screw their citizens, they'll take you. And there's

00:11:35.800 historical precedent for that. And then the government also viewed Mennonite agricultural

00:11:40.020 expertise as a means to boost regional food production and economic stability. So they prioritize

00:11:44.600 their settlement as part of broader national development goals. So that helps to explain why

00:11:49.920 they did that. But so, I mean, as you can imagine, the primary reason why this like kind of unraveled

00:11:56.340 in Mexico was that there's just like this explosion in gang violence in Mexico. So from 2012 to 2017

00:12:05.060 alone, an estimated 30,000 Mexican Mennonites relocated just to Canada. But a bunch of Mennonites 1.00

00:12:11.820 also have emigrated from northern Mexico to safer regions within the country, such as Campeche

00:12:17.140 or abroad to countries like Belize, Paraguay, Argentina and Bolivia. And the reason I fell down

00:12:24.300 this rabbit hole in the first place was I watched this documentary on a Mennonite community that was

00:12:30.160 quite conservative in northern Argentina. And I'm like, how the hell did these low Dutch speaking 1.00

00:12:36.760 Mennonites who are clearly like a Polish origin in northern Argentina? I just like it was so confusing

00:12:46.720 to me. But now it all makes sense. And a bunch of these countries did the same thing in trying to

00:12:53.500 attract Mennonites. So like, oh, those dudes. Hold on, hold on. So now they come over from Canada, 1.00

00:12:59.320 then they go to Mexico, then they go to Argentina. Yeah, yeah. And like, and so like,

00:13:03.340 and again, like, so Argentina, Paraguay, Mexico, Bolivia and Belize, all of them offered land

00:13:08.560 grants. All of them offered military exemption, though in Argentina, that's just informal. All of

00:13:13.280 them offered educational autonomy. And all of them except for Argentina offered formal privilegium.

00:13:19.440 So the same thing that Canada started in the 1870s. So while there's there's no formal deal in

00:13:25.780 Argentina, like basically off the books, they're totally autonomous. In Paraguay, they have more of a

00:13:31.720 kind of sovereign state thing. They have embedded sovereignty, as it's explained.

00:13:38.020 That's fascinating.

00:13:39.120 Yeah. And so they're basically like the

00:13:41.220 They're basically a charter city.

00:13:42.340 The Prospera. Yeah, they're a charter city.

00:13:44.780 Mennonite Prospera.

00:13:46.080 Yeah, Mennonite Prospera. And in Mexico, they had all those privileges, which are now eroding,

00:13:51.300 because basically the state can't even take care of its gang problem. But in Bolivia,

00:13:55.200 they have large land holdings. And in Belize, they have lots of formal agreements. But here's what

00:13:59.500 blew my mind. Because I was like, okay, so I guess all the Mennonites now live mostly 1.00

00:14:03.720 in South America. But that's not actually true.

00:14:07.780 No, actually, the two biggest, out of the top three Mennonite countries, two of them are

00:14:13.800 in Africa.

00:14:14.560 Yes, this blew my mind. So for very similar reasons to why South America was like, yeah,

00:14:20.540 move down here. The Democratic Republic of the Congo and Ethiopia were both like, 0.93

00:14:25.460 in response to the interests of some Mennonite missionaries. Like, sure, come here as long as 0.93

00:14:33.160 you develop infrastructure. We could use it. Very Belt and Road. Like, fine, come here. Like,

00:14:37.780 I'm not going to do anything for you. But like, if you're going to build something, fine.

00:14:41.160 What happened, though, was like, among the local population, a version of Anabaptism just kind of

00:14:48.600 took off. And I thought, so I googled, like, Mennonite community, Ethiopia. I was expecting 0.98

00:14:54.160 to see, like, you know, Ethiopian families in straw hats and, you know. Because honestly, 0.98

00:15:00.880 like, the reason I clicked on the Argentinian Mennonite video on YouTube was the hats these

00:15:05.440 girls wear are high fashion. They're couture. They look just so great. Like, white ribbon. 0.96

00:15:10.340 I'm just, it was everything.

00:15:10.980 Okay, hold on. I'll look this up. Argentinian Mennonite.

00:15:13.140 I was, I was here for it. At least in this one documentary. It's just like, this one community

00:15:17.140 really just, like, nailed it. Chef's kiss. Kind of, kind of wear. But yeah, it's, they more just

00:15:23.460 wear, I would say. Oh my god, these hats are awesome. I know, right? I know. I'm like.

00:15:29.560 They're really good at hats. Yeah. They say, they say they are not a proud people. Me think

00:15:36.000 they dress with a little too much pride. Yeah, actually, I was watching another Mennonite 1.00

00:15:40.220 on a YouTube video today talking about like permitted fabrics and clothing, like stuff

00:15:44.860 that her mom would be cool with her getting and stuff that her mom would get mad about 0.76

00:15:47.940 her getting. I love that everything was like filtered, not through like, this is what my

00:15:51.500 culture says. It's like what her mom would have let her buy. But she was, she introduced

00:15:55.080 the concept of something being fancy. And something that was fancy was too worldly. But those hats

00:15:59.960 are fancy. Yeah, they don't, that's far too fancy. Yeah, they're extreme. But oh, they're so

00:16:05.980 good. Anyway, the Ethiopian Mennonite communities and the Democratic Republic of the

00:16:10.200 the Congo, they're they look much more like other Congolese from their country. Yeah, 1.00

00:16:15.520 they just like but but coordinated coordinated Congolese, you know, like coordinated and that

00:16:19.960 like family photo ready, you know, like, so really pretty good. But anyway, yeah, Democratic

00:16:24.920 Republic of the Congo 235,000 Mennonites, Ethiopia 224,000 Mennonites. Now the United States has more

00:16:33.760 with over 390 Mennonites. And then Canada has over 137 because they just screwed the pooch India. And I 1.00

00:16:41.360 haven't looked into this, I need to figure out what's going on here nearly 150. So 150,000. So

00:16:46.240 that's more than Canada. And then in Paraguay, 33k Mexico 32k Bolivia 25k Brazil 12k. So like,

00:16:55.280 it's really not that much in Latin America. But I think that just considering how difficult it is

00:17:00.320 to migrate, like just the incentives, it's pretty impressive. So I just like that actually the

00:17:08.560 Indian Mennonites, the dress like pretty, like traditional Indians, I guess. Oh, do they? 1.00

00:17:13.600 They are Indians. Oh, oh, like, like Ethiopian and whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see the thing is,

00:17:20.300 like, if I was converting to become a Mennonite, like 80% of it would be for the fashion. Yeah,

00:17:25.000 I'd be like, come on, what are you doing? You're not a Mennonite. You'd like you're missing 1.00

00:17:28.480 the point. It's a sartorial choice. Whatever. You do you, I guess, you know. But I guess I can

00:17:35.520 also see, like, the point isn't the particular style of clothing. It's that it is traditional

00:17:40.640 clothing. So I mean, I get it. You know, don't be worldly. And it would be fancy to wear foreign 1.00

00:17:46.960 clothing that is cool. So it is un-anabeptist to do that. And I am just being sacrilegious. And this

00:17:55.040 is why we're techno-puritans. Yeah, we're techno-puritans. We're gonna, our religion's

00:17:59.280 gonna spread. It's gonna be the best. It's the best religion. If you haven't checked it out.

00:18:02.240 It's the best. Everyone knows it. So this, this, this brings an end to our Mennonite

00:18:08.800 soliloquy. We, we are now going to discuss basically places doing this in modern times,

00:18:14.240 aside from just like Argentina and, and, you know, these people trying to siphon off the,

00:18:18.080 the Mexican refugees from, you know, the failure of Mexico to protect their precious Mennonite

00:18:24.080 population. There, there is still lots of targeted immigration happening or like targeted

00:18:30.640 recruiting attempts happening on behalf of, of countries. And the funny thing is Malcolm,

00:18:34.880 you and I have been directly involved with two of them in terms of applying and being interested.

00:18:39.920 Oh, really? Oh yeah. Yeah. We have actually the one in Chile.

00:18:43.120 That's right. Yeah. So Chile startup program, it specifically targets tech entrepreneurs and

00:18:47.840 digital nomads, and it offers startup funding in a streamlined visa process to build the company's

00:18:53.520 reputation as a tech hub. And we actively applied to that. I don't know if we got in,

00:18:57.200 I think we might've gotten in, but I refuse to get it. I refuse to go. Was that it?

00:19:00.800 Well, we got in, but we had gotten some other opportunity and it just wasn't that much money

00:19:05.120 and worth going because we would have to relocate to Chile for a while. And you were like, it's not

00:19:09.520 worth it for the money they're giving us. Yeah. I was like, no Chile, you're not. And then we ended

00:19:13.200 up in Peru. I didn't want to go to South America at all, but like, no, the future police, the agents

00:19:19.760 of Providence wanted me there. You're going to South America, lady. I don't care that you didn't

00:19:23.680 want to take that money. Also, Ireland and England have programs to attract teachers,

00:19:29.280 remote workers, graduates with financial incentives and relocation payments. So they've done it to

00:19:33.600 not as much. I also recall speaking of English people, France really catching a lot of heat from

00:19:40.480 its own citizens for changing its tax law to attract like billionaires from England. Do you remember

00:19:46.000 that? Yeah. They were mad, but absolutely. Like this again is targeted. It's like, what can we

00:19:52.800 shift? What incentive will only draw in the desirable population? And as we saw with Mexico's 0.93

00:19:59.280 alleged promise of no taxes for a hundred years, which I love, that one of the ways is to be like,

00:20:06.400 oh, for this tax bracket, oh, this population, no taxes. So I think that's interesting. And then,

00:20:12.640 so what's the other program that we, the, the other targeted immigration program that we,

00:20:17.840 we flirted with? Oh, it was the Singapore we were recently looking at was a biology company.

00:20:23.360 That's different. That's, that's, I didn't. Yeah. I mean, that, that is, I would say

00:20:27.840 a really good example of, and he's, he's, he's referring to what is it called? Network school

00:20:33.280 or network university? Apologies. We're in the process of applying. I haven't done the test

00:20:37.120 yet. Cause they want me to do it like an IQ test. Yeah. Which I, I'm like, I'm a genius.

00:20:41.440 I don't need to do an IQ test. Just take my word for it. They're going to be like,

00:20:44.320 who is this potato named Simone that is attempted to not? I'm just going to try any math questions.

00:20:49.840 I'm like, come on guys. Just, yeah. I finished one of them. I'm just very like,

00:20:54.160 I'm with a pet. They, they, they don't. Yeah. Anyway, people, people, someone commented on one

00:21:00.240 of our recent videos that I'm very smart. They don't realize they said that they said that Simone's

00:21:05.600 smart. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm sorry to tell you this. My wife is basically retarded. Yeah. 1.00

00:21:10.640 I don't think basically, I think, I think retard is the, this is, this is why it's not even offensive

00:21:17.040 for us to use the term. Yeah. It's, it's okay for me to say it because my wife is a retard. 1.00

00:21:22.320 I am. I'm a retard. It's true. I can't even open doors. Malcolm knows this all too well. 0.99

00:21:29.280 And that is why every morning I wake up and I just look at her and I'm like,

00:21:34.880 and I'm like, get out of bed. You're disgusting retard and, and make me my effing money and then 1.00

00:21:41.920 make me dinner and care for my kids. Cause that's what retards do. This is why she stays married to me 1.00

00:21:50.560 because I've been able to train her into believing she's a retard. It's called, let's see. I just 0.99

00:21:55.520 want to make sure I get the, the name of it. Bology's Island. It's network. My question for you

00:22:02.480 is what's this other one that we applied to? Cause I don't remember. Yeah. Networks anyway,

00:22:05.680 but no, I, I just, I do want to highlight the fact that, that Bology is trying to build this network

00:22:10.720 school on this Island adjacent to Singapore. And what I think is kind of a charter city. I'm not

00:22:16.240 part of the Belt and Road initiative. Is it, but like, it, it feels very much like what I expect

00:22:21.200 this to look like in the future, which is these techno feudal charter cities where you have

00:22:26.320 specifically not like a collection of investors or, or an incorporation even, but like, maybe you have

00:22:32.800 those, but like, they're led by a figurehead like Bology, like a sort of Jesus-like figure.

00:22:37.120 Yeah. I could see Andrew Tate have one. I could see Jordan Peterson have one. I could see Elon

00:22:43.200 Musk have one. I mean, you and I will have one. That'd be pretty cool. We have our Tundra one in

00:22:49.280 the far North or subterranean Tundra charter city. Make it miserable to live in. Just called Frostpunk.

00:22:56.080 We just, yeah, we just don't even get creative with it. But no, so like, I think it's really exciting

00:23:02.320 to see that we're, this is already here. They were already starting to see targeted immigration.

00:23:07.120 And to your point, right. We're just talking about how we applied to network school. And in addition to

00:23:12.000 like submitting a pitch deck related to our startup, what's the other one we applied to?

00:23:16.240 You said we'll tell you after we talk about this. So after, after doing that, the next stage of the

00:23:21.280 application was literally taking an online IQ test with like the shape rotator questions and the

00:23:26.080 vocabulary questions and the math questions. So that is like, this is, they are only targeting

00:23:32.960 top tier intellect that is also entrepreneurial. Like there's a very targeted population here. And if you

00:23:38.960 are mid or a retard, like me, you're going to get kicked out. Like you're not going to be accepted. 1.00

00:23:43.040 And this again, is this very targeted immigration. So tag this in your mind, as you think about how do

00:23:46.960 I cultivate a population that has the keys of the kingdom? Anyway, the final one that you're,

00:23:51.360 you're forgetting about. And I think this is also important because this is an example of

00:23:55.440 a contemporary that has been around for a decent amount of time. Now, private family led

00:24:00.240 targeted immigration program, not to a country, not to a broad region or a state,

00:24:07.360 but literally just to a city. Tell me you're not remembering this.

00:24:10.800 Oh, Tulsa. Yeah, you're right. Tulsa. Yeah. So they have, there's the Tulsa remote program.

00:24:14.720 It offers 10,000 racist. Well, we can talk about that, but they offer 10,000 as a grant to eligible

00:24:21.280 individuals, only targeted people who are willing to relocate to the city and work remotely from there.

00:24:26.480 The program is designed to attract remote workers from outside of Oklahoma and help reverse population

00:24:30.880 decline and brain drain by bringing in talented professionals. So what they're really looking

00:24:34.720 for is like bougie dinks to go and live there. And everything is framed around DEI. Everything 0.97

00:24:40.880 is framed around. That's what really turned us off. Yeah. We're like, wait, so you want us to come

00:24:44.640 here, but then be second class citizens. And like, no, they made it very clear. If you're white in Tulsa,

00:24:50.960 you are a second class citizen. Yeah. That is what like, also they, they did a lot of things

00:24:56.400 that felt very futuristic to attract families. Like you get like free access to this really

00:25:02.240 nice coworking space. There are these like, you know, bougie dink apartments that you can move to.

00:25:08.160 They set us up in this gorgeous, cute boutique hotel that was all automated when we stayed

00:25:12.880 that overlooked this beautiful park. It was right next to this. Oh my God. I was pregnant at the time.

00:25:19.040 So they had this amazing Mexican restaurant and you know how I'm always craving enchiladas. I can't even.

00:25:23.600 Yeah. And they also have the most

00:25:28.000 utopian futuristic over the top park that is like, I've never seen a park like this anywhere

00:25:35.760 in the world. And we've been to a lot of incredible parks, but this park was like,

00:25:39.440 am I in a sci-fi right now? Like what is going on here? And it was all developed by this one really

00:25:43.760 wealthy family that also is behind the Tulsa remote program. That's just like, we're going to make Tulsa

00:25:47.520 great again. And we're going to do this. But again, this is, I think this is very

00:25:51.840 similar to what we're going to see in the future is these powerful families, these powerful people,

00:25:56.640 these groups, these syndicates building city states and saying, this is my land. This is my kingdom.

00:26:02.720 This is my fiefdom. I want, I want the right kind of people. And I'm going to, I'm going to be very

00:26:06.880 generous to them if they come and I'm going to attract them with all sorts of treats.

00:26:10.800 So they will be charter cities. They will be network states. They will maybe like you say,

00:26:16.880 you know, leverage countries programs like belt and road or other like charter city legislation.

00:26:22.640 And there's obviously like plenty of examples of these now, but they're getting off to a rocky

00:26:27.280 start. And that rocky start is really helpful in enabling families to know what they can depend on

00:26:32.480 in the future as an attractive family and where they need to also protect themselves and sort of like

00:26:37.040 always make sure they have their backs on something. So consider for example, Prospera

00:26:41.360 and in Honduras, right? They are a charter city and they have tax autonomy, labor autonomy,

00:26:48.320 legal autonomy, and regulatory autonomy, which is why tons of cool medical experimentation is

00:26:52.640 taking place there. Anything from gene therapy to getting a chip inserted into your wrist that can

00:26:58.560 open up your Tesla. That's just super fun. I just love it. It's so cool. But the problem is that

00:27:04.800 when there was a regime change in Honduras, the next president who was super socialist was like,

00:27:10.720 oh, I want to undo this. And so there's, there's all this, like, who knows if, like,

00:27:15.360 I think now Prospera is suing Honduras for like three times its GDP or like some, some insane amount.

00:27:22.880 Cause they're like, you broke your promise, but like, who knows how that's going to go. And that is a

00:27:26.480 problem is you have to feel confident that whatever you're setting up, isn't just going to be like

00:27:36.400 kneecapped by.

00:27:37.040 That's why you should not set it. Like, I would not set this up in Latin America. I would set this up 1.00

00:27:42.160 100% in a Northern European country.

00:27:45.520 Maybe. So I want to hear your thoughts on, on another charter city. We really haven't engaged

00:27:49.360 with much intellectually or logistically. I don't think we know anyone involved.

00:27:52.480 Is there's the Dubai International Financial Center in the UAE. They're a financial free zone.

00:27:57.600 So they have their own commercial law. They have their own courts and their own regulation.

00:28:01.200 It's just sort of like this different kind of thing. What are your, what are your thoughts on

00:28:05.520 like the Middle East or something like this? Do you just think you're too

00:28:08.960 in-group favoring?

00:28:11.360 They are too in-group favoring and I wouldn't want to live there and I wouldn't trust it. Like 0.99

00:28:15.520 if I was going to, the, the place that we looked at doing this, which has been leaked is the Isle of

00:28:20.080 Man. You know, like that's a great place to say they're dealing with a major brain drain.

00:28:24.400 They have a degree of autonomy. They're not in the EU, but they're near all of that.

00:28:28.640 So people could easily migrate.

00:28:30.000 It would be amazing. The Isle of Man would be amazing.

00:28:32.000 Plus it's our kind of weather.

00:28:33.040 Yeah.

00:28:34.000 Kind of cool.

00:28:35.120 And then what's that, that one that Arya Babu wanted to target.

00:28:37.840 That was a small island between the UK and French.

00:28:39.760 Sark.

00:28:40.240 Yeah.

00:28:40.720 Yeah.

00:28:40.880 Sark or the Isle of Man is where I would be.

00:28:42.800 Dreamy. Dreamy.

00:28:43.680 I mean, I would work about like worry about Sark and severe weather.

00:28:46.400 Isle of Man has the same problem, but like, no, totally in favor of those. 0.94

00:28:49.760 I think another good example of like cautionary tales is Hong Kong because they had their own

00:28:54.480 legal and economic and immigration systems, but China's like, yeah, then there's, I think this is

00:29:01.120 a really great example is the, the special economic zone that was shut up, set up, shut up.

00:29:06.640 That was set up in Shenzhen in China that just revolutionized China.

00:29:11.760 And it's, it's, it's hard.

00:29:14.800 So they, they offered regulatory and economic freedoms, but they did things that only China 0.96

00:29:19.280 could do.

00:29:20.640 I'm probably going to flub my attempt to very succinctly summarize this, but it used to be

00:29:26.240 before this zone was set up that people couldn't just up and move from their local villages to work

00:29:31.840 anywhere.

00:29:32.880 And what changed with Shenzhen is it suddenly they were allowed to go work there.

00:29:37.200 And if this enabled this massive floating working population that would sweep into Shenzhen

00:29:43.200 and work and often like live in company towns, but on a sort of migrant labor basis.

00:29:49.360 So their kids would stay at home with their parents and they would just work it to the

00:29:55.280 point of, as we know from like the Foxconn suicide nets and everything, they'd work to the point of

00:30:00.080 like their minds breaking, but make a ton of money that they would never make it home in their local

00:30:04.960 village and go home every year for New Year's.

00:30:08.160 And then eventually just go home to their families and like survive, you know, like go back to life.

00:30:14.640 But it enabled these huge like labor to sort of slosh around and respond to demand. 0.99

00:30:20.320 And I think it's really interesting.

00:30:21.760 It's an example of China using targeted immigration in its own way to sort of get

00:30:26.800 value out of a population that wasn't really valuable to it before, because they were basically

00:30:31.520 taking subsistence farmers and subsistence families and turning them into slaves.

00:30:37.520 Yeah. Like the, the, the force that enabled sort of Apple to, to become Apple, but also Apple

00:30:44.080 to make China into the industrial powerhouse that it became during that period.

00:30:49.280 And if you're interested in this, I think there's this author that wrote about how

00:30:53.200 Apple and China sort of rose together.

00:30:55.840 He recently played the Chinese people.

00:30:58.080 I mean, kind of. Yeah. And then also there's gone from the region, even though they should

00:31:03.360 have a long time ago due to, you know, risks and they're, and they're freaking out over

00:31:07.520 Trump's tariffs and everything. They don't have a plan. And everyone told them, get out of China,

00:31:11.680 get out of China, get out of China, get out of China, get out of China, get out of China. 0.99

00:31:13.840 And they're trying. And, and apparently the, the, the journalist who wrote this book

00:31:17.120 upon interviewing many people actively working at Apple, he thinks they're delusional,

00:31:22.720 but Apple is actively trying to shift a ton of its production now to India.

00:31:26.560 Um, and while he thinks that they're, they are being way overly optimistic about how

00:31:32.480 quickly they can shift over, they are very intent on shifting away.

00:31:39.680 India is our friend. China is not. 1.00

00:31:42.640 I know. And they're trying, I'm just saying they're trying, Malcolm. So give them some credit.

00:31:47.520 Not that we are huge Apple stands. I mean, I freaking love my mouth.

00:31:50.720 Whatever. Let Apple crumble. Right. But no, but I mean, I think America should,

00:31:54.080 it should always try to be growing ties with India and India should work to drop its stupid 1.00

00:31:59.760 neutrality thing. 0.99

00:32:00.880 Neutrality thing.

00:32:02.400 India is obsessed with trying to be neutral in global power. 0.97

00:32:07.520 China's right there. What do you want them to do? 0.95

00:32:11.120 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They, they, they, I mean, they're anti China and neutral.

00:32:15.040 Like for example, they bought a ton of Russian oil during the Ukraine conflict.

00:32:18.560 Right. Like they, they need the oil during the, during the communists versus capitalists

00:32:24.400 saying of the, the, the, the, that period, they never really became a client of the U.S.

00:32:29.280 They always tried to play the U.S. and the USSR off each other. 0.92

00:32:32.400 And while it sounds smart, look at where you are now, India, it clearly hasn't worked out for you. 0.99

00:32:38.160 You know, choose a side America will work with you and China will turn you. 0.92

00:32:44.880 Well, it's not great what China does to the people who tried to befriend China.

00:32:49.840 I mean, yeah.

00:32:52.640 Anyway, these, these are just some of the examples, but I think we're going to see a lot more of this.

00:32:56.720 So as demographic collapse plays out, even though immigration is not the answer,

00:33:02.000 people are totally going to turn to immigration and we should be exploiting that to our advantage. 0.99

00:33:06.800 So how do you become an it girl population? 0.98

00:33:10.480 How do you become an it girl population? 1.00

00:33:12.800 How do you become that girl?

00:33:14.400 Well, I think the big things is create jobs, generate tax revenue by making money,

00:33:20.000 buy from the local economy, build infrastructure and produce useful products like agriculture,

00:33:24.960 like develop the area.

00:33:26.640 And I think, you know, doing things like that would be great.

00:33:29.500 That's why we're so obsessed with building a no holds barred medical research community

00:33:33.700 that brings in medical tourism, that brings in academic researchers, that sort of becomes

00:33:38.100 this essential place for the wealthy and resourced to get experimental medical procedures

00:33:43.780 that they can't get anywhere else that fosters academic research.

00:33:47.540 But I mean, there are lots of different specialties you can have that do that.

00:33:50.820 And also just becoming entrepreneurial and knowing how to generate tax revenue and both contribute

00:33:56.740 to and hire from the local economy.

00:33:58.500 I mean, like, obviously, one way to generate tax revenue is to make money yourself.

00:34:02.660 But another way to generate tax revenue is to bring jobs to a population, you know, sort

00:34:07.940 of have this like, if you build your fiefdom, and then there's these villages around you that

00:34:11.860 are that are selling to you and buying from you, then, you know, the country benefits even

00:34:16.180 more or the larger area that's attracting you benefits you even more.

00:34:20.180 So I think that's a really big thing.

00:34:21.940 But it's not just about being attractive.

00:34:24.020 And I think this is an equally important part of this equation that people need to be looking

00:34:27.540 at and talking about that they're not talking about, which is, what do you do when there's

00:34:32.980 a regime change?

00:34:34.180 What do you do about your personal safety?

00:34:36.420 And what do you do when these countries can no longer handle basic things like not only

00:34:40.580 security, but also maintaining infrastructure?

00:34:42.980 Well, I mean, look at what's happening in Peru right now.

00:34:45.540 People are like Amish and Mennonites are destroying the Peruvian Amazon and stuff like that, right? 1.00

00:34:50.180 Like the deforestation claims and stuff, right?

00:34:55.860 Like, yeah, if you let the wokes get too much power, you got to run again.

00:35:00.260 Yeah, it's yeah.

00:35:01.380 And you see, you want to you want to choose.

00:35:04.020 So I don't know how much you can choose or predict the continued friendliness of an area.

00:35:11.700 Probably the the more isolated you are in an area and the less desirable that area is going to

00:35:16.660 be like we've always had this theory that if we were going to build a fiefdom or a city

00:35:22.340 state or a charter city, it would be somewhere that's not desirable, that isn't going to be

00:35:28.020 where suddenly people like, OK, now it's mine.

00:35:29.860 You've developed it.

00:35:30.660 Now I'm going to take it.

00:35:31.460 I mean, that's why you're looking at Sark in the Isle of Man.

00:35:34.260 These are areas where you can actually do a degree of farming, but it requires technological

00:35:39.540 intervention.

00:35:40.100 Yeah.

00:35:40.420 And they're not like oil rich.

00:35:41.620 They're not they're not, you know, they're there are not huge reasons why people are

00:35:45.460 going to want to go there for natural resources.

00:35:48.020 So that's I think that's also really important.

00:35:50.020 I'm surrounded by unstable governments that are going to change their mind in a day.

00:35:53.300 They're also more defensible.

00:35:54.340 You're less likely to have like roving gangs because they are literal islands.

00:35:58.660 So the island part is good, though.

00:36:00.340 I think I like even more.

00:36:02.820 I mean, Canada's is attractive in so far as aside from maybe interest in oil or logging,

00:36:10.260 like there's just not that much.

00:36:13.620 You know, desire to to settle there, I think, but I think a lot of it is if you can control

00:36:21.060 your own energy production and defense, you are in a much better position than just a

00:36:27.140 group that happens to be very economically productive.

00:36:29.780 Does that make sense?

00:36:30.900 Oh, no, no, I completely agree.

00:36:32.180 You've got to eventually get to energy production and defense.

00:36:35.780 Well, and I'm hoping that small scale nuclear just becomes a thing.

00:36:38.820 And so just, you know, well, your compound is going to have its little

00:36:42.660 reactor and you're fine.

00:36:44.420 You don't need to depend on.

00:36:47.780 Yeah, I agree.

00:36:48.500 And I think when we look someday, we will turn our eyes again to investing in companies and

00:36:53.540 technologies that enable sovereignty from a technological standpoint.

00:36:57.860 So like AI systems or other systems that enable any independent group that decides to organize

00:37:04.020 and settle land to like with a lot of help, like maybe with the help of drones and a couple of

00:37:10.020 types of robots and a bunch of AI, like sort of preloaded to help to set this up like a kit to set up

00:37:16.340 small scale nuclear septic systems, like a well insulated settlements, maybe connected by tunnels

00:37:23.540 of things like that, that like just will work pretty much anywhere.

00:37:27.060 And then some permaculture that works with the local environment.

00:37:29.940 Like I really want to invest in technologies like this because as much as I appreciate what AI

00:37:35.940 doomers are attempting to do to like prevent things from happening.

00:37:39.460 Like the more we can enable people to live off the grid successfully in communities and be

00:37:45.700 independent and take care of each other, the more I think humanitarian crisis.

00:37:50.180 We're going to be able to build in safety.

00:37:51.220 Yeah.

00:37:51.620 Yeah.

00:37:52.020 So I think that's really important.

00:37:53.860 I'm so excited you brought this to everyone's attention, Simone.

00:37:56.740 This is a fascinating topic because it did you read about where this was happening in Korea,

00:38:02.180 by the way, because I had mentioned that in Korea, they're doing this a lot more.

00:38:05.140 Where?

00:38:06.180 Oh, no.

00:38:06.580 So one of the phenomenons in Korea is they keep doing these programs to try to get people

00:38:11.460 to new regions because obviously they have this massive depopulation.

00:38:14.020 Oh, no, yeah.

00:38:14.900 No, no.

00:38:15.140 This is also happening in Italy, Greece, Switzerland, but this is for like internal citizens. 1.00

00:38:20.020 So it's less interesting to me.

00:38:21.940 Yeah.

00:38:22.260 Yeah.

00:38:22.500 Where they'll change what they're offering people to get them to move to a new part of

00:38:26.020 Korea and then everybody moves there and then they'll change what they're offering again.

00:38:30.020 And then all the people who just moved to the new region moved to wherever the best.

00:38:32.820 Oh, so it's, it's, it's as if we, as a couple had like done startup Chile, but then we moved

00:38:38.740 to Tulsa, Oklahoma, but then stayed there for the requisite year and then moved to like somewhere.

00:38:43.940 Yeah.

00:38:44.180 Just wherever else.

00:38:44.980 Just being whoever is offering the best benefits.

00:38:47.140 Just incentive chasers.

00:38:48.260 Yeah.

00:38:48.660 And I, but I bet there will be those like just sort of, you could call them like mercenary

00:38:53.780 it girl populations that just like go to the highest bidder at any given time. 1.00

00:38:58.260 Yeah.

00:38:58.580 And they're just like, Oh, it'll be high population.

00:39:00.420 Well, you know, we'll have a ton of kids and we'll just go to whoever is giving us the

00:39:03.780 best benefits at the time.

00:39:04.820 And that's, that's what we're seeing in Korea right now.

00:39:06.820 I just wonder if you could kind of think of Jews as that kind of population that like

00:39:11.460 a lot of countries had. 0.99

00:39:13.140 If by best benefits, you mean least killing them, I guess. 0.95

00:39:16.420 Yeah. 0.99

00:39:16.900 Yeah.

00:39:17.220 Kind of.

00:39:17.940 I mean, there are various ways to look at this, Malcolm.

00:39:21.220 I mean, also like maybe the best benefit we're going to get from various city states is like

00:39:27.140 we won't.

00:39:27.620 And we won't even kill you. 0.92

00:39:29.300 I know.

00:39:29.860 But like, I don't know that there's the fun timeline and there's the dark timeline.

00:39:34.260 Not, not to be.

00:39:35.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:36.420 No, I, I absolutely hear you.

00:39:37.860 So yeah.

00:39:39.860 Well, in Korea, a lot of people know that we, we did an episode on this when I first

00:39:43.460 saw this number.

00:39:43.860 I was like, this is wild.

00:39:44.980 One in four men in rural Korea has married a, a non-Korean woman in foreign

00:39:50.580 for white.

00:39:50.980 Who's married.

00:39:52.820 Is there, is there a big gender differential or is it just that like all the women are choosing 1.00

00:39:57.380 to be single and women are choosing to be single and, and, and overly picky in Korea

00:40:02.100 and men are just like, okay, I'll marry a foreigner. 0.84

00:40:04.500 And that is how the Korean population is replacing. 0.99

00:40:06.660 I mean, okay.

00:40:07.060 Maybe you're not giving women the benefit of the doubt though, because one of the big 1.00

00:40:10.180 issues in Korea and in other countries that have developed more quickly than Western companies. 0.57

00:40:14.580 These men are more misogynist.

00:40:17.300 More, yeah. 0.93

00:40:17.940 More misogynistic in that they have sort of double standards for women.

00:40:22.020 Like, yeah, we're going to be a dual income household, but also you're going to do all the

00:40:24.980 child rearing.

00:40:25.540 Right.

00:40:26.340 Yeah.

00:40:26.580 Which is, is not, you know, so, I mean, of course they're going to go to women who are willing to do 1.00

00:40:30.740 that, but those women who are doing that also aren't going to be as educated and aren't going 1.00

00:40:35.140 to make that money.

00:40:37.140 I guess that makes sense.

00:40:37.940 Yeah.

00:40:38.420 Yeah.

00:40:38.580 I mean, I, it's not all on the men it's, it's on everyone.

00:40:41.700 It's, it's on.

00:40:42.420 You're, you're so kind and magnanimous, Simone.

00:40:47.940 Magnanimous.

00:40:48.340 It's a good word.

00:40:48.900 So what are we doing tonight?

00:40:49.860 Warmed up Penang?

00:40:50.900 You made a great pineapple this time.

00:40:53.940 Oh, go heavy on the pineapple, but cut it smaller than the way you normally cut it.

00:40:58.100 So we can get.

00:40:58.660 Do you want it confetti small, or do you want it like.

00:41:02.100 Not confetti small, just like a quarter of the size of those giant chunks.

00:41:06.340 Okay.

00:41:06.500 Okay.

00:41:07.460 And what would I want for, I definitely do not want that rice again.

00:41:10.580 Whatever that rice was.

00:41:11.300 No, because I froze a bunch of it.

00:41:12.820 I know.

00:41:13.140 I just, I, you kept talking to the journalist and I just kept slicing and zesting lemons

00:41:18.980 and it just kept going into the rice cooker.

00:41:21.300 It just didn't stop.

00:41:22.580 It wasn't that bad.

00:41:23.860 I tried some.

00:41:24.660 It's fine.

00:41:25.220 No, it is that bad.

00:41:26.420 If you want to eat it, you can eat it.

00:41:28.020 If you want me to eat something, I could just eat the Penang directly, or we could try dumplings.

00:41:32.340 I have rice.

00:41:33.060 I guess I just have to throw away.

00:41:35.620 It's sad.

00:41:37.300 Give me other rice.

00:41:38.180 Okay.

00:41:38.500 Or, or maybe it will taste good with something other than Penang.

00:41:41.540 But right now it just tastes like ultra lemony.

00:41:44.180 Yeah.

00:41:44.580 It's good for you, Malcolm.

00:41:46.580 But we could try like dumplings or something with Penang, I think would work really well.

00:41:50.980 I have rice.

00:41:51.860 I have other rice.

00:41:53.300 Okay.

00:41:53.780 Plain rice.

00:41:54.500 That works.

00:41:55.220 Okay.

00:41:56.340 All right.

00:41:56.420 You made great Penang, by the way.

00:41:58.180 And when you reheat it, also put in a bit more spice.

00:42:01.220 Obviously we were trying to make it bland for the journalists.

00:42:04.980 I mean, Germany's not known for.

00:42:06.820 We told him that we're glad the German people are going extinct, so. 1.00

00:42:11.220 Although he, I think he maybe identifies more as Swiss, because he talked about growing

00:42:15.860 up in Switzerland, but also like Swiss food.

00:42:17.620 Do you remember Swiss food?

00:42:18.420 It was like, what flavor of bland do you want?

00:42:21.220 Do you want fish flavor bland, or do you want like beef flavor?

00:42:23.860 Yeah.

00:42:24.660 Oh my God.

00:42:25.300 Yeah.

00:42:25.940 That was, that was a thing.

00:42:27.380 The bland police.

00:42:29.620 Well, yeah.

00:42:30.420 Don't be too loud.

00:42:31.140 And don't you dare.

00:42:31.940 We got in trouble so many times.

00:42:33.780 Think about doing your laundry on a Sunday.

00:42:35.620 No, no.

00:42:36.180 Do you remember we kept having people call like on me for laughing too loud?

00:42:40.260 Like in my room.

00:42:41.620 Someone just knocked on our hotel room because they were like, you should.

00:42:44.660 They called the management.

00:42:45.620 They're like, stop laughing.

00:42:47.060 You're, you're laughing too loud. 0.83

00:42:49.540 And I was like, what the heck? 0.98

00:42:51.700 Are you the saddest country on earth? 0.99

00:42:54.180 Yeah.

00:42:54.420 No, don't, don't laugh.

00:42:55.860 Don't do laundry on Sundays.

00:42:57.460 Don't like, but I think this shows like who we are as a family.

00:43:00.660 It's not like you're beating your wife too much.

00:43:02.820 You're laughing.

00:43:03.700 Like what kind of delicate snowflake do you cut?

00:43:05.940 Do you have to be to not handle noise?

00:43:09.860 Like, are these just all extremely like sensory sensitive autists? 0.95

00:43:15.620 I, I, it's, I really struggle.

00:43:16.900 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:43:17.700 I don't say, I think it's that they, they hate other people being happy.

00:43:20.340 I do not think it's a noise thing.

00:43:23.460 Weigh in in the comments.

00:43:24.660 If you understand why it is that Swiss people hate fun. 1.00

00:43:28.980 Why do they hate?

00:43:29.780 Why do they hate the fact that, that Malcolm,

00:43:31.860 poor little Malcolm here just laughs and laughs.

00:43:34.420 And they say, you can't laugh like that.

00:43:36.500 You laugh too loud. 1.00

00:43:38.180 You stupid American. 1.00

00:43:39.940 And I say, well, you're stupid because I'm having fun and you're going to die alone and sad. 1.00

00:43:46.260 Sorry. 1.00

00:43:46.740 Maybe that's a, I mean, whatever.

00:43:49.700 All right.

00:43:50.180 I'm going to make their watches.

00:43:51.220 By the way, just in terms of good food, you need to know this.

00:43:53.860 Although you'll, you'll never watch it.

00:43:55.380 There is literally a genre on Instagram.

00:43:58.020 Like there are multiple accounts that have a lot of likes, like a lot.

00:44:02.100 Like one post will get 320,000 likes.

00:44:04.980 Who knows how many views are getting.

00:44:06.420 It only shows people going around to buffets and often like office buffets,

00:44:12.580 but also random buffets,

00:44:14.580 wedding buffets in South Korea and just filling their plate.

00:44:18.420 Buffets in South Korea.

00:44:19.860 Yeah.

00:44:20.100 Hold on.

00:44:20.500 That's different.

00:44:20.900 I've had wedding buffets in South Korea.

00:44:22.260 Bread buffets, wedding buffets, work office buffets.

00:44:24.660 Oh yeah.

00:44:25.300 And it just, it just goes from like tray to tray.

00:44:28.020 And then you just see a hand loading up a plate and you were just like,

00:44:31.140 it is, it is a good genre.

00:44:32.900 Like of all the random, you know, there's the restock.

00:44:35.860 There's the.

00:44:36.580 Have like a huge problem when you're in Korea, which is that they over. 1.00

00:44:40.580 So the Korean people are a thrifty bunch. 1.00

00:44:43.220 Okay.

00:44:43.940 And so what this means is that when they go to all you can eat buffets,

00:44:47.940 there are specific meals that they know costs more to make.

00:44:51.300 And so buffets will always load up on these.

00:44:54.020 And a lot of these are like big crab meals.

00:44:56.660 So it's like everything at the buffet is ignored.

00:44:58.820 But this one thing that like all the Koreans recognize is the best cost to 1.00

00:45:02.740 stomach space ratio at the buffet.

00:45:04.900 And everyone is just getting that.

00:45:06.660 And I'm like, come on guys.

00:45:08.020 It's like defeats the purpose of a buffet.

00:45:10.580 Well, the, the Instagram genre, I assure you,

00:45:14.020 they just go to every single tray and load up a little bit.

00:45:18.100 So you get to see everything.

00:45:19.540 They label everything.

00:45:20.660 It all looks amazing.

00:45:23.060 You are an absolute princess.

00:45:24.740 And by the way, if you were wondering,

00:45:25.620 I was cleaning out the cracks on my mouse.

00:45:27.540 It was my little thing here for, for, for, is that,

00:45:31.140 is that really what the people need to see Malcolm?

00:45:33.380 Well, that's why I was looking down.

00:45:34.660 They're probably wondering why is he looking down and my mouse was getting

00:45:37.140 dirty.

00:45:37.460 So I wanted to clean it.

00:45:40.180 I mean, I'm in favor of a clean mouth.

00:45:42.180 I love that our kids are hooked on toothbrushes right now.

00:45:45.300 Cause I never want that to be a fight.

00:45:46.820 Yeah.

00:45:47.060 Anyway.

00:45:47.380 Okay.

00:45:47.620 I love you.

00:45:48.660 Yes.

00:45:48.740 Goodbye.

00:45:49.700 You are amazing.

00:45:50.980 Bye.

00:45:51.540 Good day.

00:45:52.900 Good day.

00:45:53.380 Good day. 1.00

00:45:53.940 You retard. 1.00

00:45:57.380 Okay. 1.00

00:45:57.860 Let's news for me.

00:46:00.500 Oh yeah.

00:46:00.900 It's just that.

00:46:01.300 Well, vibe camp is four weeks away.

00:46:04.180 And we wanted to, if I wanted to drive down to Maryland again,

00:46:07.300 Are we driving up to Maryland?

00:46:10.740 Maryland is below us.

00:46:12.100 Sweetheart.

00:46:12.500 Maryland's right next to DC.

00:46:14.580 Yeah.

00:46:14.900 New York's above us.

00:46:15.940 Geography.

00:46:18.180 You can too.

00:46:20.100 On the longest day of the year.

00:46:21.700 That sounds great.

00:46:22.580 You can't.

00:46:23.380 It's most evil day to us with our reverse seasonal affective disorder.

00:46:26.900 Always for me, summer solstice.

00:46:28.580 I'm like, this is the evil day winter solstice.

00:46:31.140 I'm like, no, it's only going to get longer from here,

00:46:33.620 but it's a beautiful, blessed day.

00:46:35.620 They jump into solstice rituals, musical battles,

00:46:39.780 impromptu debates on AI philosophy, folk dance,

00:46:43.220 handicrafts, and mind-expanding quests.

00:46:46.100 Sounds like my childhood.

00:46:46.660 All of it oriented around connecting with others,

00:46:49.140 wandering around strange paths of the soul.

00:46:52.420 Meme and myth collide, and something new and magical will be bored.

00:46:57.860 Oh, and there's also recreational waterboarding.

00:47:01.060 Oh, I bet Ayla will be doing that. 1.00

00:47:02.660 Do you think so?

00:47:04.340 Oh, I don't know.

00:47:05.540 She's going to be in vibe camp because I thought,

00:47:07.300 I mean, she's going to be in less online. 0.99

00:47:08.740 She went to vibe camp last year, but I didn't like talk to her much

00:47:11.380 because it felt like trying to walk up to like the main celebrity of the event.

00:47:14.580 Yeah.

00:47:14.900 No, she's busy and important. 1.00

00:47:16.900 Oh, no, very busy and important.

00:47:18.820 No, she's always like open with us, but she is, you know, a lot of people have demands on her time.

00:47:23.060 Oh, and who else did I meet the last time I went is I ended up playing board games.

00:47:27.140 A tabletop game with Robin Hanson and friends and company.

00:47:30.900 But that was two years ago, Malcolm.

00:47:32.580 I don't think you went last year.

00:47:34.020 Yeah, I'm not even...

00:47:35.220 That involves crowds of people and being outside.

00:47:38.740 What if somebody talks to me or touches me?

00:47:41.700 Like, I definitely don't want to risk making a friend, you know?

00:47:44.340 It would be unfavorable.

00:47:45.060 And there is a lot of touching at vibe camp.

00:47:46.580 There's a lot of like, do you remember?

00:47:48.420 Like there's like stretching, sparring.

00:47:51.380 Yeah, a lot of, just a lot of touchy, touchy feeling, mystical kind of stuff.

00:47:58.260 Yeah, no, these are people very into indulging in alternative outlets for their sexual desires

00:48:05.620 that they contextualize as non-sexual or adjacent to sexual, but not passing sexual norms within

00:48:12.740 the community.

00:48:13.380 And I've always found that to be super gross.

00:48:15.700 And there's somebody like, well, you know, it's just a cuddle party or something. 0.97

00:48:20.260 It's like, how is that not infinitely worse than just having sex?

00:48:27.300 Well, imagine though, and just how toxic it was for me to be raised in an environment like that,

00:48:31.860 where I was, well, I was like raised in an environment where cuddling and all of this

00:48:37.860 was like really normalized.

00:48:39.300 And I was fully convinced that none of it had any sexual insinuations, that nudity, cuddling,

00:48:45.620 all of that was like 100% just natural and that it wouldn't confuse people.

00:48:54.020 Wait, so did you ever go to like a cuddle party?

00:48:57.780 Would you ever have indulged in that?

00:49:00.500 There were instances in groups of people where like everyone was cuddling and I'm like,

00:49:04.820 I guess I have to like snuggle in, you know, or like, yeah.

00:49:08.820 And, and, and then, and then this led to people getting the wrong idea about me.

00:49:12.580 And like, it just, yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't produce good results.

00:49:16.340 I don't like it.

00:49:17.140 Also, I don't like touching people.

00:49:18.420 So like, these are very, you're glad that you get to live with me.

00:49:22.260 Who's like, not my bag.

00:49:24.180 Yeah.

00:49:25.620 All right.

00:49:26.020 Shall we?

00:49:26.740 All right.

00:49:27.220 Now, what is the interesting thing you're going to say?

00:49:29.540 I read you the hook and you were like, that sounds good.

00:49:31.620 Okay, great.

00:49:32.340 So, all right.

00:49:38.100 What are you doing?

Based Camp - June 03, 2025

Targeted Migration Campaigns： Why They Will Make a Comeback

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