That Time Disney “Accidentally” Made a Movie Promoting Prostitution
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In this episode, we talk about a movie about a girl who becomes a giant raccoon when she hits puberty and decides to have sex with her panda. We also talk about why we don t watch Turning Red and why we should.
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It is not vague that this movie is about her sexuality and the panda represents her sexuality.
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So a lot of people got that and they ended how controversial the movie was at that.
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If that's what the movie was about, I would think it was a wholesome, good message.
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And one of the core things in the movie is she is breaking from that because she is accepting her sexuality.
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At the end of the movie, she decides to not seal away her panda.
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She thinks that she needs to embrace her panda and make it a part of her everyday life.
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And this is to represent the traditional Chinese culture's rejection of sexuality and her embracing of sexuality.
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The core conflict of the plot is she wants to go see this boy band with her friends.
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But she cannot afford to see this boy band with her friends.
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So her friends get together and they advertise her panda to her panda to all the other young kids in the school.
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And the young kids pay to interact with her panda.
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There is one boy who is a dick and she doesn't like this boy.
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And so they have this boy pay an exorbitant amount to have the panda be the main attractor at a party that he is hosting.
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So it's saying, one, use this new sexuality you have found to pay for your lifestyle, IG OnlyFans or whatever these days.
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But if they are ping a ton, that's where you really need to go all out with the panda.
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So we are going to do an interesting video today because I really liked our Barbie video.
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Anyone who hasn't seen our video of Barbie being the most based movie ever made?
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Like the point that Ken learned specifically, like, and I think it was an intentionally based movie,
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that Ken specifically learned about the patriarchy from a high school bookstore.
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They chose to make it like what a conservative conspiracy theorist would make it.
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We're going to now talk about another video because people have been like, oh, you should talk about this one.
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That time where Disney accidentally made a movie promoting Epstein-like behavior.
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I'm going to have to keep finding euphemisms for what we're talking about here.
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And a movie that genuinely terrifies our sons when they don't, they don't flinch at Starship Troopers, Jurassic Park.
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Yeah, we were watching it again last night and our son Octavian was like, I can't, I can't watch.
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And he runs out of the room because you know what?
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So before we go further, I need to make a confession.
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Turning Red, if you haven't seen it, if you watched a bunch of people being like, oh, this is a woke movie or whatever.
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And so I don't watch movies because of wokeism.
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And let's just, for those who don't know what's watching it, but maybe still want to watch this.
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The gist of it is it's about a girl who hits puberty and happens to turn into a giant raccoon when she feels sexual urges.
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Well, a red panda, which is technically a raccoon.
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I love that you mentioned the actual species name because a lot of people don't know that red pandas are actually a subspecies of raccoon.
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So basically, whenever she becomes emotionally aroused, but also sexually aroused, she turns into this panda.
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It turns out that it's this hereditary family trait that she sort of, her female ancestral line has supernaturally inherited.
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It has, you know, great power, but with great power comes great responsibility.
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And her traditional Chinese parents, especially her traditional Chinese mother, decides to be very, very protective of this young girl as she hits puberty and becomes a panda.
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But this young girl, with the help of her friends, figures out a way to master it sufficiently to get a little bit more leeway from her mother, continue going to school, do after-school activities.
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We're going to do that in our discussion, okay?
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What I wanted to start with, which I think is really important, is a lot of people have this innate disgust or negative reaction to woke media, where they see woke media and they think, and woke media is toxic messages, and they think nothing good can come from it.
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And I really take a different perspective than this.
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I actually think a lot of woke media can be both fantastic and have good messages.
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Now, Turning Red, I think it's fantastic from an entertainment and setting perspective.
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For example, it takes place in the 90s, like late 90s.
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If you grew up in the late 90s, it was such great nostalgia for me.
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The songs they have from boy bands in it, which are a major focus of the show, are just perfect.
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I almost wish there was a genre of this style of boy band music that I could just go listen to tons and tons of songs of.
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Like another show, for example, was a few others that I absolutely love that are woke.
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Which is funny because this is one of the shows that was constantly complained about by one of my favorite YouTube channels, which is Clownfish TV, which does like takedowns of like woke comic book culture and comic book translations and stuff like that.
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I even love the rework of the character design.
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A lot of people were complaining because some of the artists for the show before it launched were like, oh, we are going to de-sexualize She-Ra.
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We are going to make an iteration of She-Ra that's going to make men mad because it's going to be such an unsexy version of She-Ra.
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And then they have like multiple lesbian makeout scenes throughout the show.
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It is way more sexually charged than the original, as you can see from these images right here, to show you how far the romance goes in the two shows and how sexualized the characters are drawn in the two shows, with the more modern rework being much more sexual.
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Why doesn't the woke stuff get to you when it got to them?
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Because there are woke, terrible shows, like the new Star Wars and stuff like that, where they make it woke and soulless and it just feels corporate.
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Did you hear the interview with the director who was like, I love making men uncomfortable?
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These are people without any talent who are another show that is often considered extremely woke, that I actually think one has good messages.
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Otherwise, a pretty entertaining show, if you take out the filler, is Steven Universe.
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Like anyone who says like the songs in it are great and I'm going to post what I can of songs here.
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But I think you're just mad because you're single.
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Deep down, you know, you weren't built for fighting.
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But that doesn't mean you're not prepared to try.
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You actually started crying the first time I played that song for you.
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Because you felt it was so personally relevant for you.
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When you live for someone, you're prepared to die.
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The Stronger Together song in the show, and we might do another episode on this, they treat this alien species, instead of marrying somebody or having a relationship with somebody, they combine into a single entity.
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And I think that that's very much like the way I think about our relationship, and that they show how you can have toxic iterations of this entity.
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Now you're my prisoner, and I'm never letting you go!
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yikes they are really bad for each other i can't stop thinking about being fused as malachite
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how i used all my strength to hold her down in the ocean how i was always battling against
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jasper to keep her bound to me but it's not like that anymore you don't have to be with jasper
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that's not it i miss her what we refused for so long but she's terrible i'm terrible i did horrible
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things i thought i was a brute but you you're a monster i let's be malachite again
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why would you want that i was terrible to you i liked taking everything out on you
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i needed to i hated you it was bad it'll be better this time i've changed you've changed me
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or you can have some individuals that try to form these really giant entities but it causes some
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problems where like multiple of them combine everything like that is it to me it's a very
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good metaphor for relationships and it does a lot to teach kids about positive and non-positive
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relationships while of course biasing it towards sex relationships because that's what they're
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trying to push but because they're doing it through aliens i don't think they have a real
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same-sex relationship on the show like humans have relationships on the show but none of them are
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same sex so what's funny is because it's aliens and these aliens don't really have gender in the
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way that we have gender they're all females they don't actually promote same-sex relationships and i
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think the way that they think they're promoting that hadn't occurred to me but you're totally right
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that's really weird another thing about the show that's really interesting is a lot of the fans hate
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the show because they don't like the rose reveal users who are watching this aren't gonna care about
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this but it is if you know about the insider politics on this it turns out that one of the
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main characters is basically both manipulating all the characters and to an extent the audience
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through gaslighting them about her being a good person literally she was always basically a selfish
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and manipulative person this is so horrible rose wouldn't have done this you know everything like
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that and i'm like no the show just did such a good job of showing you what a female gaslighting
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you and manipulating you into thinking that she was someone other than what she was was like that when
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the reveal happened you couldn't accept that this is the experience that many men have gone through
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and many women have gone through over and over and over and over and over again throughout human
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history and throughout our society today and so you just chose that it was bad writing when actually
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i think it was very good writing of what a manipulative self-centered narcissistic person is like
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good grief actually the show has a kind of pronatalist message to it at least in so far as pronatalism
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is defined against life extension as the goal of intergenerational improvement in that this
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narcissistic character is so narcissistic and so self-centered and so completely irredeemable as an
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individual that she can only redeem herself through her death and the creation of a new person who is
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her son who is a redeeming character and and because she's an alien and because they can't reproduce in
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the way that humans reproduce when she reproduces it the human what happens is she ends up reforming
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as herself as a son and just to give you an idea of like how bad of a person she is
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does she for example has a friend who was made to keep her happy who she leaves for millennium
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to rot on a planet because she gets bored of her but lies to her and tells her that they're playing
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like a hide-and-seek game i actually think the reason the fan base took so much umbrage to this
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particular twist and began to sour on the show in general is they misunderstood what the show was
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about one of the core themes of the show which i really liked because i thought it was interesting
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and fresh is what female cruelty looks like so often in shows today the big bad is a male or is cruel in
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a masculine sort of sadistic way instead of in the often the way you are more likely to see in females
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which is the narcissistic self-centered way and the destructive relationship way here in the garden
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in the garden let's play again stand very still this'll be so much fun and then she smiled that's what i'm
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after the smile in her eyes the sound of her laughter standing alone as thousands of years go by
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night night after night is this how it works am i doing it right finally something finally news
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about how the story ends and i'm lovely isn't that cool and isn't that cruel and aren't i a fool to have
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happily listen let's get on to turning red turning red yeah well we gotta fill our runtime you know
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simone anyway turning red fantastic show in terms of just like the plot arc the the animation everything
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like that although it's california bean mouse style if you're familiar with that but anyway i'm going to
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talk about how it actually is this so in the show simone is right they repeatedly set up that her
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turning into a panda is an analogy for her puberty this is very well established in the show and not
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just her puberty but her sexuality so what you learn is that the previous women in her family
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have learned to seal what is the analogy of their sexuality in a pendant right and then become
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good wives or good moms or whatever right like just normal good people female roles in society by
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sealing their sexuality was independent and having it no longer control them sorry but what you also
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learn is that she so so this is the way it starts right you know she's beginning to go through puberty
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and it's very clear that it's a puberty there's a number of period jokes like her mom showing up at
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her school was like a tampon or something and waving it outside the window like obviously mortifying to her
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you know so there's a number of like there this is not vague this is not our interpretation that the
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panda is supposed to represent one her sexuality into puberty and keep in mind sexuality is a very
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important part of this movie in the way the the core way it's represented is their desire to go see
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a boy band that they have regular sexual fantasies about and one of the early scenes is of her like
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drawing this boy band that she has like smooching them and stuff like that like obviously they pg-ify it
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but it is not vague okay his shoulders are kind of nice his eyes are fine
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what triggers her first conversion into giant red raccoon yes it is not vague that this movie is
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about her sexuality and the panda represents her sexuality so a lot of people got that
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and they they ended how controversial the movie was at that can you believe there's a disney movie
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about periods if that's what the movie was about i would think it was a wholesome good message yeah it
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would be kind of boring not what happens in the movie that's not the end of the representation of
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her sexuality no in fact it's it's it's like the i almost find it kind of annoying because i'm like
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you know it would be really nice if there were like a fun playful movie about female puberty but
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this is only about one aspect of puberty female puberty and it's not even like i would say the most
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common aspect so which is loss of emotional control which they haven't talked about but also
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horniness but hold on i gotta go no no malcolm sorry it's it's a lot more than that like law like
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for most for many young women okay for me fine but like many young women it is nothing to do with
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discovering sexuality it is everything to do with periods and pain and being gross and having pimples
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all over your face and being depressed and hating your body and like basically the only thing that happens
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to the female lead in this movie is she her body changes yes but in a way that as we will discuss
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further in just a second people actually really find quite appealing so her body's different but
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it's as if she only just like grew giant tits and that's what female puberty is like the south park
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episode the baby's boobs episode but anyway hold on i've got to go further with this because this is
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actually so if you take the plot assumption which is which is very accurate the panda represents her
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sexuality the rest of her family and traditional chinese culture rejects female sexuality and in one
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of the core things in the movie is she is breaking from that because she is accepting her sexuality at
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the end of the movie and this is important to know at the beginning here she decides to not seal away her
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panda she thinks that she needs to embrace her panda and make it a part of her everyday life and this is
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to represent the traditional chinese culture's rejection of sexuality and her embracing of sexuality
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but then when you take this in mind and you look at the other things that happen in the plot
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it gets really really disgusting so let's talk about the plot here so the core conflict of the plot
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is she wants to go see this boy band with her friends
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but she cannot afford to see this boy band with her friends well and this is after she attempted to
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get her parents to convince like well convince her parents that it was okay very professionally and
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very openly and honestly to say hey mom and dad can i go to this concert they first said no so then
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she decided she with her friends was going to defy all their parents and they were going to somehow get
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the money themselves and sneak out and see it yeah so so it starts with i'm going to defy my parents
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and do this thing related to my sexuality that they don't want me to do which is very clearly this boy
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band thing so how do you think she gets the money to do this um so she um first is is she has learned
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that all of the young girls at the school all the young boys at the school through sharing pics of her
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as a panda um pictures of her in panda form i.e her sexuality have a strong desire to engage to rub
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this soft fur to hug to take pictures with to share as a status symbol was in their local high school
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her sexuality so her friends get together and they advertise her panda to her panda to all the other
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young kids in the school and the young kids pay to interact with her panda but it's not that she
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has in no scruples at all there is one boy who is a dick and she doesn't like this boy and so they
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don't let this boy pay to interact with the panda but then they realize that they are short for the money to
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go to go to this concert and so they have this boy pay an exorbitant amount to have the panda be the
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main attractor at a party that he is hosting and he gets special access to this panda so it's saying
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one use this new sexuality you have found to pay for your lifestyle ig only fans or whatever these
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days yes shared through the internet right if somebody is a jerk or you disagree with them
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ideologically restrict their access so long as they're not paying a ton but if they are paying a
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ton ah that's where you really need to go all out with the panda and her parents and her family are
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the core thing that is preventing her from selling herself to this boy right but she sneaks out late at
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night when nobody's paying attention because they all think she is a good girl oh yeah like because
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in in the the after school time that she is doing this activity you know selling pictures and time
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with classmates the panda she tells her parents believe that she and her friends are have formed a
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mathletes club and are doing math so well they have an elaborate system for hiding that she's selling her
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panda which her parents don't think is appropriate for anyone to even see which of course that's the
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point of the analogy but why does she sell it why is that how she makes the money why did disney not
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realize what the image they were pushing with this was why did they not realize that selling panda picks
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is a problem when pandas are a representative of going through for her sexual awakening and her embrace
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of her sexual awakening but it gets worse and all that it is so much worse like every aspect of this
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movie is so internally depraved it is a gas at me so simone you're pointing out when they the movie
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happened is she found a way to control the panda right yeah and what's interesting i didn't pick
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this up the first time we watched it was that the way that she controls her panda isn't by like what
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you would normally think of like meditating or thinking about her core values it's it's about
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thinking about her social network and friends which is very well the approach is very actually female
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puberty right because i mean that's that's what you're like hyper driven to focus on when you're a teenager
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is your peers yeah so social approval it's all of her friends saying you are okay the way you are
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and i appreciate that and she lies to her parents about this as well she says to her parents that they
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are what she's using to control these these outbreaks but it's really social approval which again i think
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is actually a pretty good metaphor for puberty but also maybe not a great message for young girls to to
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push that another really interesting thing is overall within this and you you you keep seeing
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this is that women in this movie lack emotional control that is a core aspect of women women are
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one abusive to other women like this is seen through her mother's interaction with her or the fact that
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her friends pimp her out yeah for money well she doesn't pay for her ticket sorry i should make this
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clear it's clear it's not that her friends have some other means of paying for this like their families
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and it's just that her because her family has rejected her needs to pimp her cell to pass to pay for
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her tickets she has to pay for the tickets of every single one of her friends and her friends are
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pressuring her into selling herself so that they can buy tickets to the boy band
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right so her friends are toxic in that way her mother is way overprotective i mean her mother
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arguably is one of the reasons why she's doing all this in the first place when she pitched the
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idea of just going to the boy band concert to her parents originally her father was like why not let
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her go like this seems fine this is a very well-reasoned argument you know it's music whatever and her
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mother was basically abusive to the father like she scolded him she was cruel completely unnecessarily
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the father throughout this is a paragon of what i would say fatherly masculinity is like
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actually a very good masculine role model for people who are in this world of child masculinity
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which is andrew tate masculinity which is not the masculinity of a man who's in a married long-term
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relationship he is the rock of the family which is interesting because if you're not paying attention
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you just assume that he's the hapless father trope of just like well i don't know that i'm just here
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i'm just the dad like don't mind me you know it's like that common trope right where like the dad's
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kind of just like shoved off to the side whereas like in the end he models the most responsible
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empathetic kind and reasonable behavior right well and part of me wonders is why did a progressive
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write a man in this way in a world where like only women matter only women have special abilities this
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is there's actually this scene that like really got me when it was talking about the beginning of how
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the panda came about right and it said that all the men in the local community had died fighting to
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protect the community and after that it was a mom and her daughters and she needed to find out how to
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protect her daughters and so then she started praying and then she got the panda powers and i'm
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like why didn't she get the panda powers before all the men in the community died did every like is that
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how disposable men are in your viewpoint that you just let in this fake story that you made up and you
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could have framed it any way you want she could have saved her entire community she could have had
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male and female children no she only had female children and all the men had already died trying
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to protect her before she decided to pray for these panda powers and then she used them just to protect
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the daughters right like there is a deep level of misandry throughout the entire movie men's lives
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don't matter but even within this level of misandry and i think you see this was in misandry communities
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this man is still something that they dream of and wish existed and pine for and it's really sort of
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sad to see this representation but also see even within their world he is treated with such consistent
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and constant disrespect by his wife the daughter clearly respects him but the wife just has no respect for
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him and they see this as just or act i i don't know but it is it is weird that they think that
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they are portraying a message where women are good if anything for a man watching this this is why you
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should never get into a relationship women won't view your lives as mattering they won't care that you
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died protecting the family and that if you're a man you'll just constantly be berated by your wife
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for being reasonable and trying to do what is in every instance the best thing for his daughter
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well so maybe the film creators were just giving fair warning you know just nipping into the bud you
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will not be respected in your relationship don't bother yeah actually now that i think about it steven
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universe is the same way greg universe steven's dad in the show is by far the most mentally stable and
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responsible human being who in the in the entire show which is really shocking and in in what he has put
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through by all of the women in the show is really interesting as well he for example is made to be
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a single father he is forced to it's implied heavily or maybe outright stated that he has to pay for the
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living arrangements and all of the stuff that all of the crystal gems are using so he has to get a job
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they live separately from him with his son and he has to pay for their lifestyle and this entire time
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he is nothing but just a great and decent human being but just throughout it it's an interesting
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and twisted message sell your body you know of course right like that's how you should lie to your
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parents sell your body all social validation comes from your your network and if you are selling your
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body just make sure to not sell it for cheap if you're selling it to someone you hate or ideologically
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disagree with that's where you really need to get those big bucks make it rain i had to do a little
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video scene in the song where they have the girl making it rain and if you are lying to your parents
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the best way to do it is to pretend like you're doing something like math leads or something like
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that the way she gets her parents on board with the math leads is saying that she doesn't have a
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diverse enough yeah but just getting into college on academics will not get her in she needs to have
00:31:20.800
extracurriculars as well to be rounded out be manipulative be a snake yeah and it's it's not for
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a good thing it's not like she's trying to save a family member she's trying to see a boy man that she's
00:31:34.720
horny for yeah as one review said it's one of the horniest movements i've ever seen i i won't say it's as
00:31:42.320
horny as baldur's gate three you know i said baldur's gate three was good i actually take that
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back baldur's gate three when i was playing it it was just too aggressively horny which is why i love
00:31:51.680
rogue trader so much the the warhammer 40k uh game that i've been playing more now but i i stopped
00:31:57.680
recently because it gets kind of bad after act three too bad sorry i i am a video game anime
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everything like that nerd what are other woke shows that are actually surprisingly good
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the the reboot of voltron is fantastic for people who haven't seen that it's on netflix it's great it's
00:32:20.640
woke somebody's like gay in it somebody's a girl and he's not in the original it is great um
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what other woke things any other oppressively woke things that we really like
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i totally forgot owl house which is fantastic sometimes someone gets so brainwashed they think
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the reason people hate woke media is they hate the groups that woke media uses to deliver its
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indoctrination this would be like if a wife found a bunch of lesbian porn on her husband's computer
00:32:51.280
and got mad at him for it and his takeaway was wow my wife really hates lesbians no she does not
00:32:57.280
hate lesbians she hates the way you chose to use lesbians people who say they hate the woke media
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really have a problem with just the quote-unquote woke media not race swaps overwhelming minority
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casting or even underage lesbian relationships with the three examples i am thinking of here that i have
00:33:14.800
never seen chastise within my online circles being into the spider versus miles morales black panther
00:33:21.120
or owl house now you might say no i can find an example of someone complaining about it
00:33:26.720
and like sure it's the internet of course you can i hang out in these types of online spaces where
00:33:32.160
people complain about woke shows and i can guarantee you that if somebody started bitching about into the
00:33:37.200
spider-verse they're going to get their ass handed to them by the majority of the community side note
00:33:41.440
before we go further owl house is an amazing show yes it has an underage lesbian relationship in
00:33:47.200
it as a major plot point but that is not in some effort to include seditious agenda it is just
00:33:52.960
because the individuals creating the show are so immersed in that culture i do not think they
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could authentically write anything else which is a shame because to my understanding the studio
00:34:00.720
disney ended up shutting down the show early as a result even though i saw no significant
00:34:04.960
blowback against it online when contrasted with things like the castle and kennedy projects
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which are the bad soulless advertisements for the urban monoculture kind of woke that people
00:34:14.240
actually hate which keep getting greenlit if you think the majority of people who complain about
00:34:19.840
wokeness in media actually have any animosity towards minorities or the lgbt community you have
00:34:25.200
either been manipulated or simply refuse to actually engage with these groups as human beings there is
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a reason the urban monoculture makes a point of shunning anyone who is caught publicly talking to the
00:34:34.640
quote-unquote enemy because if they did people might actually realize the groups that they are dehumanizing
00:34:41.200
as deplorable rednecks are real humans whose base is often more socially and economically vulnerable
00:34:47.680
than the other base and who have real grievances and most importantly whose actual demands are
00:34:54.000
sensible and measured they hide this from you by only showing you the most egregious of what that
00:34:58.640
group is saying and then shunning anyone who is seen talking to that group so long as they can find
00:35:03.600
one extra naughty tweet the person made which of course you're going to find was pretty much anyone in
00:35:07.760
this group because they do not engage online like they have gestapo thought police living over their
00:35:14.240
shoulders to use an analogy we've used before to think of those complaining about wokeness being
00:35:19.520
inserted into media to spread the urban monoculture as having an actual beef with minorities or the lgbt
00:35:25.200
community it's a bit like a gauzen thinking israelis have an actual beef with people in hospitals
00:35:30.480
if you don't get what i mean here think about the quote tied to the new star wars being produced
00:35:35.280
i love to make men uncomfortable with my work now this shows that she wants to make the work actively
00:35:41.040
antagonistic to quote unquote men by which of course she means men who have a right-leaning perspective
00:35:46.960
now if she decides to put a chicken in and make her name a gay
00:35:50.400
any diverse woman in it make his head but mrs kennedy bambi's a baby deer
00:35:57.920
fuck baby deer put a chicken in and make her gay linguine and clam sauce
00:36:02.800
uh excuse me i believe i asked you to put a chicken in this and make her gay
00:36:06.960
uh yes the chef was a little confused what you meant by that it means put a chicken in the linguine
00:36:12.960
and make her fucking gay and i want it lame men within that demographic group are going to come
00:36:20.960
off as sounding like they are mad at gay people when nothing of the sort is true they are mad that
00:36:26.880
somebody used gay people in an attempt to hurt them through meddling was a work that they personally
00:36:34.400
identified with and that meant a lot to their personal self-narrative maybe because it was
00:36:39.200
important to them growing up or something like that i mean i think a lot of media has become
00:36:43.520
woke and depending on what it is like just woke in terms of like how it's cast and and the types of
00:36:49.280
roles and is gravity falls woke i don't think so but like i think how how we define woke is it like
00:36:54.880
sort of becomes overtly like it it breaks the the fourth wall enough where you like lose your
00:37:01.040
suspension of disbelief because the the woke is being shoved so vigorously down your throat that you're
00:37:06.640
like wait i mean this has ruined some recent project a great example of this is one of my
00:37:11.120
friends aaron estevez anyway so he uh was the showrunner the guy who created avatar the last
00:37:15.840
airbender great guy really interesting he was in the initial class when i was accepted into stanford
00:37:20.400
but i delayed my acceptance for a few years but i hung out with him and then i went to see him at riot
00:37:24.880
because he went to work for them for a while for clarification i haven't talked to him in years
00:37:29.520
especially since i started doing anything that was remotely controversial so don't anyone like
00:37:33.680
like try to pull that connection there um yeah really great guy anyway so he he then created a
00:37:41.600
new show that just absolutely destroyed me i hated it you watched it with me it was terrible it was this
00:37:47.520
world was like magic and dragons and stuff like that but the thing that killed it is they did what i call
00:37:52.400
race explosion which is they had like these mystical worlds right but like people of different ethnic
00:37:59.680
groups were like exploded throughout them so you would have like a medieval kingdom where like
00:38:04.880
you'd have white people and black people and asian people and i was like oh how how did this happen
00:38:10.800
how are they still distinct ethnicities if they don't have racism and they're all living amongst each
00:38:16.320
other this constant questioning was going in my mind right okay here's how you solve it you could say
00:38:22.640
that because the world is magic people are regardless of their parents ethnicity born into one
00:38:29.280
of a fruit few predefined ethnic groups the problem with this is then their ethnicity doesn't have any
00:38:36.480
real value within the world and you are essentially erasing minority groups yeah so it's not a great
00:38:42.960
answer but it could at least plausibly allow this to happen also you would have to arbitrarily choose
00:38:48.320
which ethnic groups people can be born with it i guess they would be born at a rate that mirrors
00:38:53.440
the rate of that ethnicity within a city like san francisco so this would allow for mixed race
00:38:59.280
people to also be born in this world i don't know clearly i'm overthinking it but i'm trying to figure
00:39:04.560
out how you could have a world that for thousands of years could have no racism and different races
00:39:10.000
living alongside each other and yet still have a bunch of unique ethnic groups that mirror those of
00:39:15.760
a major u.s city right now whereas i think his first work avatar the last airbender did this
00:39:21.440
really really effectively yeah where yeah there are different ethnic groups and even ethnic groups
00:39:27.280
that are not often addressed in our society today like you know inuit people and stuff like that are
00:39:32.800
really prominently featured in it um then you have the chinese group and you have the japanese group
00:39:37.280
and you have the tibetan group like those are the three groups tibetan japanese chinese anyway so you
00:39:41.520
know not at all like a white supporting show or anything like that fantastic because these groups
00:39:46.880
are separate they have unique cultures i learned to understand them and where these groups do mix i
00:39:52.400
understand how they've mixed and how they've mixed intergenerationally and it creates this extended
00:39:57.440
lore that is interesting to me this is the way you be woke efficaciously you focus on ethnic groups
00:40:03.200
that people haven't spent a lot of time focusing on and you explain how a world where they are the
00:40:07.440
dominant groups interacts with each other like it's almost sort of sci-fi right like it's taking a
00:40:11.520
hypothesis what if the world was divided into chinese japanese inuit and tibetan and these different
00:40:18.720
groups had different powers that were associated with them and they had to learn how to engage with
00:40:24.240
each other and accurately racially i would almost say the japanese turned out to be the genocidal maniacs
00:40:30.400
and they tried to take over the world no really what happens when the japanese attack their country
00:40:38.080
even looks like japan i can't get over this right but but but then in this other world it's like
00:40:43.920
racial explosion it's like that's boring and you see this recently and this is another thing i want
00:40:48.800
to rail against is the random ethnic casting in historical dramas that people think is okay i don't like
00:40:55.120
and i think it lowers ethnic contributions to historical context a great example of catherine
00:41:02.480
the great great show it's on hulu where they do like a modern funny rendition of catherine the great
00:41:08.320
but they do like a multi-ethnic casting because they're like well we'll be you know we'll have a
00:41:13.360
random like indian and african cast in this historic context where they wouldn't have been but here's
00:41:20.160
where it really i think undermines the role of different ethnic groups is catherine the great
00:41:26.240
actually interacted with real indians real africans real people so you have you have trouble when like
00:41:34.640
it's a it's based in a real historical period where the nature of different racial and ethnic groups
00:41:40.720
interacting was meaningful and very interesting and yeah they had meaningful scenes where an indian person
00:41:48.800
comes to court and they are engaging with this or an african person comes to court which really
00:41:54.560
happened during catherine's reign and this is actually something where they would have these
00:41:59.280
individuals come on to stage in the show like an indian person or somebody of one of these far
00:42:04.640
russian ethnic groups that is really quite distinct from the russian main ethnic group
00:42:09.360
but i wasn't able to tell that these characters were meaningful or that their culture was meaningful
00:42:14.640
because they had shotgunned random ethnicities into the core of her court and so they were not able to
00:42:21.360
i highlight how these these these ethnic interactions were actually interesting and meaningful and highlight
00:42:28.800
people who if i was an indian and i was watching this i would have been like oh this is how indians
00:42:35.520
engaged with and interacted with the the the cast from the great court but instead i'm seeing an indian
00:42:40.480
actor and i'm like obviously this person historically was an indian well i don't know that really bothers
00:42:46.400
me i just ignore it and i i mean if like the that show was meant to be a comedy so i watched it for
00:42:53.520
comedy and costumes and same with shows like bridgerton that have this like really really diverse cast
00:42:59.520
i'm just like whatever like this is this is about romance in the case of bridgerton this is about comedy
00:43:04.480
in the case of it's called the great right so like yeah whatever i'm just not i'm not gonna worry about
00:43:09.440
it but yeah i do i do think that the takeaway though with this as the erasure of these actual
00:43:15.120
communities yeah but that's what the urban monoculture is all about the urban monoculture
00:43:20.720
wants as you say diversity in victims but not in in culture so that that would even erases diversity
00:43:28.560
of victims it erases the indian minorities that were within the russian empire and needed to petition to
00:43:35.760
the russian government right no but that they don't care about historicity they care
00:43:42.240
about a humorous show they're trying to highlight that oh fancy people can be of all backgrounds
00:43:48.720
because that's how we work in our society now and that's it like they're they're not thinking about
00:43:53.680
historical accuracy and the move that the show wasn't historically accurate it wasn't supposed to
00:43:58.560
be historically accurate it was supposed to be funny and it had some genuinely very funny moments
00:44:03.280
a little too cringe for us but like genuinely funny so i thought it was genuinely funny i wouldn't even
00:44:08.880
say cringe it was good the great is great yeah so there you go there you go but when this was a
00:44:14.320
movie that she made that was a full movie that was also pretty good oh no you're thinking about the
00:44:21.360
no you're it's it's not obviously about catherine the great it's about one of the not catherine the
00:44:25.840
gate the person who made catherine the great she also made a movie that was a historic movie and
00:44:30.000
when i introduced catherine the great to you i was like you should check out this show that's like
00:44:34.000
this movie you watched that i think was about like queen elizabeth and like a gay lover or something
00:44:38.400
or i haven't seen it but we have to wrap up so any final thoughts on turning red just a great
00:44:45.920
show from an entertainment perspective not necessarily something i would show my kids all
00:44:50.000
the way through because i think it has a bad message for young women and it's interesting to me
00:44:55.360
where like people end up inserting messages into shows like that this could have gotten greenlit that
00:45:01.280
nobody said wait is the plot here that they're selling their bodies for sex like is is that actually
00:45:08.800
the plot like did nobody that nobody thought through they were so impressed that it was a plot that
00:45:15.680
included female coming of age and puberty and periods that they didn't think to question the implications of
00:45:23.520
the rest of the plot yeah which is amazing or maybe there is just some subtle campaign to get
00:45:31.280
girls on only fans earlier and earlier and earlier so they can make money and become empowered don't
00:45:36.480
you understand right so that they can pay for concert tickets yeah obviously obviously anyway malcolm
00:45:43.440
i love you so much yeah i love you too i'm sorry i'll go with you let's go down together you're so
00:45:52.000
lovely we'll walk through the snow hand in hand oh no i'm looking forward to it let's do it
00:46:01.360
malcolm is the best and i love him malcolm is so pretty and so cool malcolm makes every moment special
00:46:12.400
and we all love him don't be cruel don't you understand that malcolm's the best why don't you
00:46:20.400
all watch his youtube channel don't be a loser and hit subscribe because malcolm is really really great
00:46:29.760
i need to put that at the end don't i i need to have a video of you singing for the air can you do one
00:46:35.360
of your songs no we're gonna go back to where we were so they eviscerated she-ra