Based Camp - September 17, 2024


The 2nd Trump Shooter is Weirdly Relatable (Even to Trump Supporters Like Us)


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 1 minute

Words per Minute

178.05309

Word Count

11,033

Sentence Count

846

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

54


Summary

On September 15th, 2024, a gunman opened fire at Donald Trump's golf course in West Palm Beach, Florida, and killed the president. The suspect was identified as Ryan Wesley Ruth, who was a former Marine who served as a member of the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO).


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I wonder, I don't think I'm that much crazy.
00:00:03.160 Like if I had less access to resources than I have
00:00:06.140 or less access to public respect than I have
00:00:08.380 and I needed to get people to pay attention
00:00:11.080 to certain topics,
00:00:12.400 could I be seen as as crazy as this guy
00:00:14.680 in a different timeline?
00:00:15.980 You're probably seen as more crazy than this guy.
00:00:18.040 He did not try to start a religion.
00:00:20.180 Oh, that's true.
00:00:20.860 Yeah.
00:00:21.140 Yeah.
00:00:21.660 I'm definitely more crazy than him.
00:00:23.560 Would you like to know more?
00:00:24.900 Hello, Simone.
00:00:25.800 I'm excited to be talking with you today.
00:00:27.260 We just had a another presidential assassination attempt
00:00:31.100 in the United States.
00:00:33.000 I was wondering whether or not I should cover this
00:00:35.900 and sort of my takeaway has been
00:00:38.060 there just hasn't been a lot of good
00:00:40.340 comprehensive coverage of this.
00:00:42.140 And so whether it's the first debate
00:00:43.880 or the first assassination attempt,
00:00:45.680 I have found in our content,
00:00:47.860 it's usually like the most comprehensive coverage
00:00:50.500 of the subjects that I'm able to find online.
00:00:53.800 And I take a bit of pride in that.
00:00:55.140 So even when I can't be pointlessly controversial,
00:00:58.440 it's worse putting stuff like this together.
00:01:00.740 But I will yet be pointlessly controversial
00:01:04.660 because I'm going to argue,
00:01:06.820 I actually kind of like this guy.
00:01:09.640 Oh, that's nice.
00:01:11.160 I don't think he's a bad guy.
00:01:12.860 I think he's trying to assassinate a president.
00:01:15.540 But I, a conservative, am like,
00:01:18.640 yeah, but change a few priors
00:01:22.300 and what, you know,
00:01:23.660 this is actually a pretty brave thing to do.
00:01:25.600 Now.
00:01:25.920 That's what I've heard.
00:01:27.240 What one free press writer said about him,
00:01:30.340 roughly speaking, I'm paraphrasing here,
00:01:32.560 was that he was crazy,
00:01:35.140 but most people were just kind of like,
00:01:36.860 yeah, I get it.
00:01:37.500 Like good cause.
00:01:38.400 He's crazy, but he's fighting for a good cause.
00:01:40.360 And that he reminded her of a character
00:01:43.720 played by Brad Pitt.
00:01:44.940 She is thinking of the movie Burn After Reading.
00:01:48.140 Brad Pitt played a character
00:01:49.420 who was a personal fitness trainer
00:01:51.260 trying to attack the CIA or something
00:01:53.800 and was kind of clueless.
00:01:55.340 And basically he reminded her of that
00:01:57.740 and she didn't think that he'd do anything crazy like this,
00:01:59.980 but he did.
00:02:00.480 What's she going to do?
00:02:01.540 Well, I mean,
00:02:01.940 and we've seen the rehabilitation
00:02:03.720 of specific crazy people recently as well,
00:02:06.380 like the Unabomber,
00:02:07.880 where this is actually-
00:02:08.620 Oh, now everyone loves the Unabomber.
00:02:11.260 What's up with this?
00:02:11.980 I mean, I disagree with his actions,
00:02:13.660 but the Unabomber's Manifesto,
00:02:15.940 now that's something we need to talk about here.
00:02:17.720 Why is this such a trendy thing now?
00:02:19.660 This is so crazy.
00:02:21.160 No, he's considered,
00:02:22.660 it's weird.
00:02:23.700 He's considered,
00:02:24.640 like I hear about the Unabomber's Manifesto
00:02:26.760 probably as much as I hear about
00:02:27.860 Curtis Yarbin these days.
00:02:29.420 And Nixon.
00:02:30.100 Everyone's in love with Nixon now too.
00:02:32.060 What's up with that?
00:02:33.180 I was always in love with Nixon.
00:02:34.440 He was a genius of his time.
00:02:35.840 Did you know that Nixon was
00:02:36.060 Stephen Colbert's favorite president?
00:02:37.760 No way.
00:02:38.720 Yeah, he was.
00:02:39.700 Nixon was a genuinely good president,
00:02:42.240 just a little crazy.
00:02:43.940 Actually, probably one of the best presidents
00:02:45.980 in American history.
00:02:47.720 Normalizing relations with China
00:02:49.340 for the future of like the next 50 years
00:02:52.520 was nothing but genius.
00:02:54.000 And that is not something
00:02:55.060 that naturally would have happened.
00:02:56.600 Oh yes.
00:02:57.400 Am I outing myself as a Kissinger fan as well?
00:03:00.160 What you need is a second in command
00:03:01.800 who understands the intricacies
00:03:03.360 of organized villainy.
00:03:05.300 Perfect.
00:03:06.040 You're hired.
00:03:07.080 Number.
00:03:08.060 Number Killinger.
00:03:09.600 Dr. Henry Killinger.
00:03:11.100 And this is my magic murder bug.
00:03:13.880 No, you are the magic man.
00:03:16.660 Wow.
00:03:17.220 I suggest you put that
00:03:18.200 into a high yield mutual fund.
00:03:20.240 Now, if you'll excuse me,
00:03:21.720 I have much work to do.
00:03:23.000 Well, let's get back to,
00:03:24.020 let's get back to the assassination.
00:03:25.420 Sunday, September 15th, 2024.
00:03:30.020 Shortly before 2 p.m.,
00:03:31.320 the incidents occurred
00:03:32.300 at Trump's golf course
00:03:33.940 in West Palm Beach, Florida.
00:03:35.620 Trump was out golfing at the time.
00:03:38.520 He was playing hole five.
00:03:41.000 Now, I am going to put on screen
00:03:42.740 a picture of where Trump
00:03:44.960 was on the golf course
00:03:46.180 and where the guy was aiming
00:03:47.740 at him on the golf course.
00:03:49.040 During the incident,
00:03:50.900 Ryan Wesley Ruth
00:03:52.000 was hiding in the bushes
00:03:54.400 in this area
00:03:55.420 I am showing on the map here.
00:03:57.820 Okay.
00:03:58.680 Agents saw his rifle
00:04:01.140 peeking out of the bushes.
00:04:02.940 It was an AK-47 variant
00:04:05.180 and they fired
00:04:06.680 four to five rounds
00:04:08.300 at the suspect.
00:04:09.820 At which point,
00:04:11.120 well, the suspect, Ryan,
00:04:12.600 fired four to five rounds
00:04:13.620 at Ryan,
00:04:14.060 at which point,
00:04:14.640 Ryan began to run.
00:04:16.580 He ran to a car.
00:04:17.780 He had,
00:04:18.760 and I will show you
00:04:19.500 where it is on the map here,
00:04:21.320 right next to where
00:04:22.260 he was hiding,
00:04:23.200 and he was actually
00:04:24.140 able to escape.
00:04:25.820 And we're going to talk about,
00:04:26.840 like,
00:04:27.220 people aren't talking about
00:04:27.980 what a Secret Service failure
00:04:29.080 this was,
00:04:30.120 but it was.
00:04:30.900 When he ran,
00:04:32.140 he dropped a GoPro,
00:04:34.180 the rifle,
00:04:35.440 and his weapon scope.
00:04:38.060 So,
00:04:38.760 the,
00:04:39.360 the,
00:04:39.780 he got really far
00:04:41.880 before they caught him.
00:04:43.700 Nice.
00:04:44.220 Wow.
00:04:44.800 I feel like,
00:04:45.420 nice.
00:04:46.000 Like,
00:04:46.520 I mean,
00:04:47.000 this guy clearly has
00:04:48.560 a very American
00:04:49.980 can-do spirit.
00:04:51.620 So,
00:04:52.160 he,
00:04:52.420 he shot at Trump
00:04:53.480 in Mar-a-Lago.
00:04:54.220 You've been to Miami,
00:04:55.040 right?
00:04:55.360 He made it.
00:04:56.120 Palm Beach.
00:04:57.080 Yeah,
00:04:57.280 yeah,
00:04:57.420 yeah.
00:04:57.560 He made it above,
00:04:59.200 like,
00:04:59.880 Fort Lauderdale
00:05:00.820 before they caught him.
00:05:01.860 I mean,
00:05:02.340 honestly,
00:05:02.880 that's just a Christmas miracle
00:05:04.360 making it through
00:05:05.120 Palm Beach traffic.
00:05:06.320 Palm Beach is a nightmare.
00:05:07.560 Remember when we,
00:05:08.160 that's what I was thinking of.
00:05:09.080 Like,
00:05:09.280 how did he get out of it?
00:05:10.700 when we,
00:05:10.720 when we were driving,
00:05:12.040 because we,
00:05:12.460 we had a rental car,
00:05:13.420 right?
00:05:13.780 When we went to Mar-a-Lago,
00:05:15.040 we had a rental car?
00:05:15.820 Yes,
00:05:16.280 we did.
00:05:17.100 And it took us,
00:05:18.040 like,
00:05:18.320 an hour
00:05:19.380 to get,
00:05:20.560 like,
00:05:21.740 two miles or something.
00:05:23.140 It was ridiculous.
00:05:24.660 Oh,
00:05:24.880 absolutely.
00:05:25.460 I'm,
00:05:25.680 I'm,
00:05:25.960 I'm,
00:05:26.240 I'm kind of amazed
00:05:26.920 that I'm also kind of amazed
00:05:27.680 that the,
00:05:28.080 the Sea Retour didn't get him.
00:05:29.660 So the Secret Service
00:05:30.340 was able to-
00:05:30.980 And all they did was walk
00:05:32.280 and get his,
00:05:33.560 like,
00:05:33.720 stalled car.
00:05:34.700 Yeah,
00:05:34.880 right?
00:05:35.480 No,
00:05:35.720 but no,
00:05:36.020 no,
00:05:36.180 but he had made it out
00:05:37.080 of the Miami traffic zone.
00:05:38.780 Gee,
00:05:39.340 what,
00:05:39.960 what were they doing?
00:05:41.960 Like,
00:05:42.240 they were only able
00:05:45.320 to catch him easily
00:05:46.300 because of a,
00:05:48.360 a picture of his license plate
00:05:50.640 that someone took,
00:05:51.600 right?
00:05:51.980 Captured by a civilian
00:05:54.320 who saw him running away,
00:05:56.520 which also,
00:05:57.200 you've got to keep in mind
00:05:58.020 how,
00:05:58.340 like,
00:05:58.520 weird this is,
00:05:59.440 right?
00:06:00.020 So this was at the,
00:06:01.360 it's not like Trump
00:06:02.140 was giving a speech
00:06:03.160 or something.
00:06:03.900 No,
00:06:04.060 he was just golfing.
00:06:04.960 at the golf course
00:06:06.080 to capture his license plates
00:06:07.900 he would have had to be
00:06:08.860 outside of the golf course.
00:06:10.900 So this is a civilian
00:06:12.000 who heard gunshots
00:06:13.420 in the golf course,
00:06:14.540 was outside of the golf course,
00:06:16.580 and in the presence of mind
00:06:17.900 to take pictures
00:06:18.760 of the plates of this guy.
00:06:21.380 Yeah.
00:06:22.520 That's,
00:06:22.920 that's,
00:06:23.240 that's kind of wild.
00:06:24.440 There's a lot of Karens out there.
00:06:25.940 See a car driving slightly weird
00:06:27.600 and,
00:06:28.200 gotta take a picture
00:06:28.940 of that license plate
00:06:29.860 and send it to the authorities
00:06:30.900 even though the authorities
00:06:31.800 never do anything
00:06:32.720 for our other con.
00:06:33.800 Yeah,
00:06:33.980 so what has this guy
00:06:34.860 been charged with?
00:06:35.720 He's been charged with
00:06:36.420 possession of a firearm
00:06:37.640 as a convicted felon
00:06:38.740 and possession of a firearm
00:06:40.400 with an obliterated serial number.
00:06:42.220 Not potentially trying
00:06:43.600 to shoot the president,
00:06:44.480 which is,
00:06:46.080 That's sweet.
00:06:47.420 Okay,
00:06:47.880 pretty interesting.
00:06:48.900 Well,
00:06:49.120 I mean,
00:06:49.340 all we have is this cartoonish scene
00:06:51.200 where people see
00:06:52.000 the end of a rifle
00:06:53.700 poking out of a bush
00:06:54.920 and then a guy running away.
00:06:56.700 I guess that's not enough.
00:06:57.720 No,
00:06:57.860 what I want to know
00:06:58.400 is how did the,
00:06:59.260 how,
00:06:59.500 how,
00:06:59.860 how?
00:07:01.660 After the last attempt,
00:07:02.940 did the secret service
00:07:04.520 take this guy down?
00:07:05.980 They fired five shots at him.
00:07:07.780 He was 300 feet away.
00:07:08.860 It was through bushes,
00:07:10.200 Malcolm.
00:07:10.700 They're,
00:07:10.960 I'm sure,
00:07:11.400 very dense bushes.
00:07:12.800 The bushes are there
00:07:13.600 for privacy.
00:07:14.340 They are not in bushes.
00:07:15.140 You can see them on video.
00:07:16.520 Oh, really?
00:07:17.060 The fact that,
00:07:17.640 I don't,
00:07:18.080 I don't put the picture
00:07:18.820 on the screen here
00:07:19.420 of where this guy was.
00:07:20.420 The fact that the secret service
00:07:21.960 couldn't shoot him,
00:07:23.080 like the DEI BS
00:07:25.300 of the secret service
00:07:26.080 because now it's like
00:07:26.820 manned by a woman
00:07:27.580 and you know
00:07:28.300 that a woman
00:07:28.960 was not the most qualified person.
00:07:30.560 She hasn't resigned.
00:07:31.460 I figured she would have resigned
00:07:32.480 after the post.
00:07:32.860 Oh,
00:07:33.040 I'll see if she's resigned
00:07:33.880 in post.
00:07:34.300 She did in fact resign,
00:07:36.280 not that it really matters
00:07:37.360 because there hasn't been
00:07:38.820 enough time to
00:07:39.860 put a real person
00:07:41.520 in charge of this
00:07:42.380 and fire all the
00:07:43.400 terrible DEI hires
00:07:44.960 that were made
00:07:45.740 under her command.
00:07:46.740 No,
00:07:47.020 they haven't really
00:07:47.960 increased his details
00:07:48.960 significantly since
00:07:49.740 the last assassination attempt
00:07:50.740 and keep in mind
00:07:51.340 before that assassination attempt
00:07:53.060 the Democrats were trying
00:07:53.960 to even further
00:07:55.040 roll back
00:07:55.700 his secret service details,
00:07:58.060 some senators were,
00:07:59.060 to almost nothing.
00:08:00.180 to basically attempt
00:08:01.580 to get him assassinated
00:08:02.460 and I think that
00:08:03.020 that's basically
00:08:03.660 the zone we're in now
00:08:04.680 where they are trying
00:08:06.680 to get this guy assassinated
00:08:08.220 but,
00:08:09.240 sorry,
00:08:09.900 what are you going to say?
00:08:11.380 How do you suppose
00:08:12.560 this gentleman
00:08:14.120 came to understand
00:08:15.500 that Trump
00:08:16.080 would be golfing
00:08:16.960 at that time?
00:08:18.680 Just he watched
00:08:19.360 motorcades or something?
00:08:20.200 Yeah,
00:08:20.220 he does it every day.
00:08:21.520 Oh.
00:08:23.660 Whoops.
00:08:24.480 Trump apparently
00:08:25.220 has a pretty routine
00:08:27.220 golf habit,
00:08:28.180 so.
00:08:28.620 He's probably autistic,
00:08:30.640 isn't he?
00:08:31.540 Yeah.
00:08:31.840 He's tone deaf enough
00:08:32.760 and routine enough
00:08:33.640 and with his,
00:08:34.300 his,
00:08:34.700 his dietary habits
00:08:35.940 and his golf
00:08:37.360 and his son
00:08:38.120 who is wisely.
00:08:40.640 Well, you know,
00:08:40.800 he eats fast food
00:08:41.180 at McDonald's
00:08:42.020 to not be poisoned
00:08:43.060 and I think a lot of people
00:08:44.180 Right,
00:08:44.340 but also,
00:08:44.980 doesn't he like the,
00:08:46.100 you know,
00:08:47.460 consistency?
00:08:48.580 A lot of people heard that
00:08:49.700 and they're like,
00:08:50.160 that's a crazy thing to do.
00:08:51.340 When you now realize
00:08:52.720 how little the Secret Service
00:08:54.000 actually has his back,
00:08:55.380 I'm like,
00:08:55.760 that's not crazy at all.
00:08:57.340 Like,
00:08:57.840 that's probably the only reason
00:08:59.360 he's alive.
00:09:00.600 Yeah,
00:09:00.840 but also,
00:09:01.440 there's just a lot of things
00:09:02.420 about him that seem autistic to me,
00:09:03.920 like him thinking the White House
00:09:05.280 is a shithole,
00:09:06.140 kind of because it's not
00:09:07.140 his personal space.
00:09:08.700 You know,
00:09:08.820 and it's old
00:09:09.360 and kind of green.
00:09:10.280 What I'm going to do
00:09:10.940 is I'm going to turn
00:09:11.540 the full White House
00:09:12.400 into a museum
00:09:13.320 and I will live
00:09:14.260 in a trailer
00:09:14.900 behind the White House.
00:09:16.600 You would.
00:09:17.260 You totally would.
00:09:18.260 No,
00:09:18.620 I believe that the president
00:09:19.880 needs to show
00:09:20.640 a sign of austerity
00:09:21.780 to the American people
00:09:23.020 and a sign of generosity
00:09:24.440 by giving his house to them
00:09:25.820 and I think that
00:09:26.960 that would be
00:09:27.480 a very positive signal
00:09:29.040 and would keep me focused
00:09:30.740 on the task at hand
00:09:32.680 instead of indulging
00:09:34.520 in this big mansion,
00:09:35.840 which I do not think
00:09:36.600 is befitting
00:09:37.160 of the leader
00:09:37.680 of the free world.
00:09:38.860 I think that the leader
00:09:40.020 of the free world
00:09:40.620 should be living
00:09:41.220 with a degree
00:09:41.860 of elective austerity.
00:09:44.740 Counter argument
00:09:46.080 when dealing
00:09:48.660 with foreign
00:09:51.160 national leaders,
00:09:53.020 it is important
00:09:54.560 that we present
00:09:55.980 a representative
00:09:57.060 of our nation
00:09:57.980 who comes across
00:09:59.000 as formidable
00:10:00.720 and someone who lives
00:10:03.200 and no,
00:10:05.140 I'm not knocking on
00:10:06.360 anyone who lives
00:10:06.940 in a trailer right now,
00:10:07.920 but I just would argue
00:10:10.100 that the trappings
00:10:11.280 of living in a trailer
00:10:13.160 are not as formidable
00:10:14.380 as the trappings
00:10:15.380 of someone living
00:10:16.040 in the White House.
00:10:16.680 I disagree really strongly
00:10:17.760 on this point.
00:10:18.400 I think that even
00:10:19.260 in other countries,
00:10:20.360 they understand
00:10:21.440 the discipline
00:10:22.360 of austerity
00:10:23.180 and they respect it
00:10:24.540 and I think we saw this
00:10:25.740 with the leader.
00:10:26.160 Yeah, but that means
00:10:26.720 you sleep on the floor
00:10:27.620 in the bowling alley.
00:10:29.740 I mean, that's,
00:10:30.740 who was that?
00:10:31.520 Was it Frederick the,
00:10:33.300 it was a Frederick
00:10:34.220 of Prussia, right?
00:10:35.460 Who, sorry about Indy,
00:10:37.120 who like,
00:10:38.960 was very austere.
00:10:40.540 He was a Prussian king,
00:10:41.980 wasn't he?
00:10:42.320 Or was he Russia?
00:10:43.820 I don't remember.
00:10:44.460 You know who I'm
00:10:44.840 talking about.
00:10:45.620 Just incredibly,
00:10:46.460 like, gruel every day,
00:10:49.320 amazing military leader
00:10:50.720 and was just insanely austere,
00:10:53.760 but definitely was a king
00:10:55.660 who did that.
00:10:56.640 In other words,
00:10:57.680 Frederick William
00:10:58.340 projected an air
00:10:59.460 of hyper-masculinity,
00:11:01.020 Calvinist piety,
00:11:02.160 and frugal financial habits.
00:11:04.000 And naturally,
00:11:04.820 he wanted his eldest
00:11:05.820 surviving son,
00:11:06.880 Frederick,
00:11:07.520 nicknamed Fritz,
00:11:08.600 to grow up
00:11:09.220 to be just like him,
00:11:10.480 a hyper-virile
00:11:11.520 religious soldier king
00:11:12.680 to use the great instrument
00:11:14.160 of Prussian military power
00:11:15.620 that he'd created.
00:11:17.200 Now,
00:11:17.540 the first six years
00:11:18.420 of Fritz's life,
00:11:19.420 he'd lived with his mother.
00:11:20.700 And under her care,
00:11:21.760 young Fritz developed
00:11:22.680 what his father considered
00:11:23.920 worrying habits.
00:11:25.480 Fritz loved music
00:11:26.300 and books.
00:11:27.100 He grew incredibly close
00:11:28.400 to his older sister,
00:11:29.600 Wilhelmina,
00:11:30.340 enjoyed poetry,
00:11:31.500 philosophy,
00:11:32.380 opera,
00:11:32.880 and learned to play the flute.
00:11:34.560 Worse than that,
00:11:35.500 it was the transverse flute
00:11:37.100 recently invented
00:11:38.200 in France.
00:11:39.480 Oh,
00:11:39.760 Frederick William
00:11:40.400 hated France
00:11:41.360 and was known
00:11:42.100 to fly into a rage
00:11:43.200 if the country
00:11:43.840 was even mentioned.
00:11:45.220 The French,
00:11:45.740 he said,
00:11:46.340 were decadent
00:11:47.020 and effeminate.
00:11:48.320 So imagine his consternation
00:11:49.880 when Fritz,
00:11:50.800 who was tutored
00:11:51.520 in French and German
00:11:52.700 simultaneously,
00:11:53.900 took to French
00:11:54.640 as his first language
00:11:55.660 and struggled
00:11:56.440 with his native German.
00:11:57.520 But I think part of that
00:11:59.540 was just his badassery
00:12:00.940 and his austerity,
00:12:02.920 but he didn't do stunts.
00:12:05.360 And I think that
00:12:06.040 a trailer stunt
00:12:07.400 would in itself
00:12:08.420 seem indulgent
00:12:10.080 and non-austere.
00:12:12.240 No, because you're doing it
00:12:13.580 with utility.
00:12:14.680 Like, you're arguing
00:12:15.200 there's no utility gain
00:12:16.320 from this.
00:12:16.940 If you were able to turn
00:12:17.960 the full White House
00:12:19.040 into an accessible museum
00:12:20.840 at all times of day,
00:12:22.580 that is a great gift
00:12:23.940 to the American people.
00:12:25.360 You're acting like
00:12:26.320 it's being done
00:12:27.160 with no benefit
00:12:28.200 or just for performative austerity
00:12:30.320 when it's not.
00:12:31.840 This is something
00:12:32.360 the American people
00:12:32.980 should have always
00:12:34.360 had access to
00:12:35.100 and don't have access to.
00:12:37.000 And you could choose
00:12:38.760 the location of it
00:12:39.680 to be something safer
00:12:40.780 than the existing White House.
00:12:42.120 Oh, you're trailing.
00:12:43.020 Down on security details.
00:12:44.860 That the White House
00:12:45.780 is in such an exposed location
00:12:47.440 increases the cost
00:12:49.260 of the security
00:12:50.000 around it dramatically.
00:12:51.300 Or you could do
00:12:52.860 some kind of
00:12:53.760 Elon Musk
00:12:56.320 homeless billionaire thing
00:12:57.620 where you just
00:12:58.300 crash on the couch
00:12:59.460 of a foreign national leader
00:13:01.120 every week.
00:13:02.280 You know, every night
00:13:02.920 you're like,
00:13:03.280 hey, sleep on your couch.
00:13:05.020 And then, you know,
00:13:05.560 it develops
00:13:06.280 international relations.
00:13:07.820 You know,
00:13:07.980 you build some rapport
00:13:08.920 with these people, right?
00:13:11.000 Yeah.
00:13:11.180 Kind of forces it.
00:13:12.700 State congressman's houses.
00:13:14.100 You know, you're really
00:13:14.460 building alliances.
00:13:15.400 Actually, that would be cool
00:13:17.160 is if you couch surfed
00:13:18.920 with your domestic
00:13:21.360 and international
00:13:22.300 liaisons.
00:13:23.320 People would love hosting you.
00:13:24.560 That, see, that I'm for.
00:13:26.100 I'm for couch surfing.
00:13:27.960 I'm not for the trailer.
00:13:30.760 But I am for the couch surfing.
00:13:32.300 I believe in living
00:13:33.780 in solidarity.
00:13:35.060 Well, then couch surf.
00:13:36.520 There's loads of homeless Americans
00:13:38.540 who don't even have a trailer.
00:13:39.580 But anyway, we're going to continue here
00:13:40.320 was what happened to him
00:13:40.980 after this, okay?
00:13:41.680 Fine.
00:13:42.520 How did we get here?
00:13:43.920 Good God.
00:13:45.140 So in his first appearance
00:13:46.460 in a West Palm Beach
00:13:48.100 federal courtroom
00:13:48.760 because he survived.
00:13:50.660 Wow, he's already in court.
00:13:52.320 Jeez, it's been a day.
00:13:54.600 He was wearing a Navy
00:13:55.700 blue prison jumpsuit
00:13:57.040 and shackles.
00:13:58.340 He appeared subdued,
00:13:59.640 respectful,
00:14:00.560 and in good spirits.
00:14:01.840 He could be seen laughing
00:14:02.900 at times
00:14:03.560 with his public defender.
00:14:05.100 Public defender.
00:14:05.820 That's great.
00:14:06.600 Yeah, and we're going to talk about
00:14:07.400 why he has a public defender
00:14:08.480 because that's actually
00:14:08.960 pretty interesting as well.
00:14:10.040 He spent all his money on guns
00:14:11.160 and has passed felony charges.
00:14:13.320 Yeah.
00:14:13.440 He has a felony charge
00:14:14.640 for possessing a weapon
00:14:15.960 of mass destruction.
00:14:17.340 And that's just an automatic rifle,
00:14:18.800 right?
00:14:19.520 Yeah, it was just
00:14:20.180 an automatic rifle.
00:14:21.060 So I'll recount the story here.
00:14:22.240 December 2002,
00:14:24.700 in Greensboro News
00:14:27.860 and Record,
00:14:28.560 recounts an incident
00:14:29.340 in which Rouse was pulled over
00:14:30.800 during a traffic stop
00:14:31.720 on Sunday night.
00:14:33.220 He, quote,
00:14:33.680 put his hand on a firearm,
00:14:35.460 end quote,
00:14:36.100 and drove to his roofing business
00:14:39.040 where he barricaded himself
00:14:40.380 inside for three hours.
00:14:41.480 The weapons of mass destruction charge
00:14:43.460 pertained to a fully automatic machine gun,
00:14:45.400 it reported.
00:14:46.260 It was a fully automatic weapon.
00:14:48.320 He was charged
00:14:49.280 with several misdemeanors
00:14:50.520 and felonies
00:14:51.360 between 2001 and 2010,
00:14:53.340 including a hit-and-run offense,
00:14:55.020 carrying a concealed weapon
00:14:56.560 and possessing stolen goods.
00:14:58.600 Separately,
00:14:59.200 North Carolina judicial records
00:15:00.900 list Rouse as a defendant
00:15:02.180 in over half a dozen court cases
00:15:03.900 between 1991 and 2016,
00:15:06.400 including tax delinquencies
00:15:07.940 and bad checks.
00:15:09.200 So this is just a guy
00:15:10.060 who wasn't making a lot of money.
00:15:11.620 He made mistakes,
00:15:13.680 but, I mean,
00:15:14.460 hit-and-run,
00:15:15.340 you know,
00:15:15.980 this is one of these things
00:15:16.980 where, like,
00:15:17.460 maybe,
00:15:18.160 but maybe not,
00:15:19.440 you know,
00:15:20.100 I don't know.
00:15:21.600 He just seems like
00:15:22.400 a typical guy.
00:15:25.200 This isn't like
00:15:25.920 a driving while intoxicated
00:15:27.420 or something,
00:15:28.160 right?
00:15:28.920 Which, by the way,
00:15:30.040 who has one of those,
00:15:31.720 Kamala Harris's VP,
00:15:33.360 where you could have
00:15:34.040 actually killed someone
00:15:35.300 for, like, nothing.
00:15:36.160 This is, like,
00:15:36.700 a bunch of, like,
00:15:37.360 random drug charges
00:15:39.320 and somebody who's poor
00:15:40.800 struggling to get by
00:15:41.980 type charges, okay?
00:15:43.660 So,
00:15:44.400 Mr. Rouse is particularly
00:15:45.800 well-known
00:15:46.480 for being really,
00:15:47.900 and his main cause
00:15:48.860 and this thing
00:15:49.280 that drove him to this
00:15:50.120 is he is incredibly
00:15:51.940 pro-Ukraine.
00:15:53.420 Mm-hmm.
00:15:55.280 And he is also
00:15:56.980 pro-Palestine,
00:15:58.260 which, you know,
00:15:58.800 ick.
00:15:59.360 Oh, I didn't know.
00:16:00.780 Okay.
00:16:01.180 He's pro-Palestine,
00:16:02.340 he's pro-Taiwan,
00:16:03.420 and he has a bunch
00:16:05.300 of anti-Chinese messages
00:16:07.000 on his profile.
00:16:08.720 He actually accuses
00:16:10.280 China of biological warfare
00:16:12.340 for the COVID-19 virus,
00:16:15.220 which he saw as an attack.
00:16:17.140 And so,
00:16:18.140 this guy,
00:16:19.200 he went to Ukraine
00:16:21.340 to try to help them
00:16:23.680 in the war,
00:16:24.400 and I'll read some quotes
00:16:25.400 about this.
00:16:26.380 Mm-hmm.
00:16:26.880 So,
00:16:27.600 Mr. Rouse,
00:16:28.060 who had no military experience,
00:16:29.300 told the New York Times
00:16:29.900 in 2023
00:16:30.440 that he had traveled
00:16:31.260 to Ukraine
00:16:31.780 immediately after Russia's
00:16:33.100 invasion in 2022
00:16:34.520 to find military recruits
00:16:36.180 among Afghan soldiers
00:16:37.440 who had fled the Taliban.
00:16:39.200 He seems to be involved
00:16:40.320 in recruitment efforts
00:16:41.380 as recently as this summer,
00:16:42.540 writing on his Facebook
00:16:43.220 in July,
00:16:44.300 quote,
00:16:44.620 soldiers,
00:16:45.140 please do not call me.
00:16:46.040 We are still trying
00:16:46.640 to get Ukraine
00:16:47.180 to accept Afghan soldiers
00:16:48.480 and hope to have some answers
00:16:50.420 in the coming months,
00:16:51.520 dot, dot, dot.
00:16:52.440 Please have patience,
00:16:53.700 end quote.
00:16:54.740 And he was never,
00:16:55.780 what ended up being
00:16:56.940 the primary stumbling block
00:16:58.520 for him
00:16:58.980 is he had this plan
00:17:00.620 to take people
00:17:02.200 from struggling nations
00:17:03.580 like Afghanistan
00:17:04.400 where, like,
00:17:05.040 you know,
00:17:05.620 you have corrupt governments
00:17:06.620 and it's really bad
00:17:07.320 to live there
00:17:07.940 and get them visas
00:17:09.200 to live in Ukraine,
00:17:09.980 which could be
00:17:10.520 a marginally better country
00:17:11.860 in exchange for
00:17:13.780 them fighting
00:17:15.040 military service
00:17:16.320 or
00:17:16.820 and pay around that,
00:17:18.700 which,
00:17:19.400 honestly,
00:17:20.060 like,
00:17:20.940 if you believe
00:17:23.320 in the Ukrainian cause,
00:17:24.720 which I do,
00:17:26.080 right,
00:17:26.340 that's not
00:17:28.120 stupid.
00:17:31.040 Yeah,
00:17:31.520 but what I had thought
00:17:32.880 he was doing,
00:17:33.480 which I thought
00:17:33.880 would be a little bit
00:17:34.680 smarter,
00:17:35.420 is to create
00:17:37.060 a band of mercenary
00:17:38.380 Americans
00:17:39.860 who just want to go fight,
00:17:41.580 who bring their own guns.
00:17:42.880 That's why I thought
00:17:43.440 he had an automatic
00:17:44.500 firearm
00:17:45.600 on an almost,
00:17:47.560 like,
00:17:47.900 war tourism basis
00:17:49.000 because I,
00:17:50.760 No, no, no.
00:17:51.260 His plan,
00:17:51.740 no, I mean,
00:17:52.140 it's a good,
00:17:52.860 it's a better plan
00:17:53.760 than the plan
00:17:54.180 you just outlined.
00:17:54.840 Yeah,
00:17:55.080 that is a more,
00:17:56.340 yeah,
00:17:56.640 like an actual,
00:17:57.500 like,
00:17:57.740 policy-based
00:17:58.760 plan.
00:17:59.680 To take a country
00:18:01.160 that is worse off
00:18:02.640 than Ukraine today
00:18:03.800 and where a lot of people
00:18:05.400 have military experience
00:18:06.780 and move them to Ukraine
00:18:08.460 and keep in mind,
00:18:09.620 this was not his first plan.
00:18:11.480 His first plan
00:18:12.800 was to join
00:18:13.540 the Ukrainian military himself.
00:18:15.200 Yeah.
00:18:15.500 They wouldn't allow him
00:18:16.720 when he arrived in Kiev
00:18:17.780 because he was,
00:18:20.160 one, old
00:18:20.660 and, two,
00:18:21.280 didn't have military experience.
00:18:23.100 And so then he tried
00:18:23.940 the next best thing.
00:18:25.380 So if you want to understand,
00:18:26.180 like,
00:18:26.440 why I respect this individual
00:18:27.940 in a way,
00:18:28.860 he's literally trying
00:18:30.360 a bunch of logical things
00:18:31.940 to achieve an objective
00:18:33.140 he sees as morally right.
00:18:35.160 Well,
00:18:35.380 and he's putting his money
00:18:36.260 where his mouth is.
00:18:37.400 Well,
00:18:37.580 he's putting his life
00:18:38.380 where his mouth is.
00:18:39.160 He's really,
00:18:40.180 when he sees a problem,
00:18:41.420 he personally appears
00:18:42.740 to do everything
00:18:43.480 that he can to solve it
00:18:44.580 despite being a man
00:18:45.680 of clearly limited means.
00:18:47.480 Yeah,
00:18:47.680 and despite everyone
00:18:49.000 working against him,
00:18:49.920 he went to Ukraine,
00:18:51.300 they told him no.
00:18:52.140 He's like,
00:18:52.480 what?
00:18:53.000 Okay,
00:18:53.340 you need people
00:18:53.920 with military experience,
00:18:54.940 I'll find them for you
00:18:55.800 in other countries
00:18:56.320 and I'll bring them here.
00:18:57.580 And then they said-
00:18:57.960 Now that doesn't make it okay
00:18:58.940 to attempt to shoot
00:18:59.920 a former president.
00:19:01.400 Well,
00:19:02.400 consider it from his perspective,
00:19:04.380 okay?
00:19:05.280 I used to be,
00:19:07.060 you know,
00:19:07.540 up until now,
00:19:08.260 I've been fairly pro-Ukraine.
00:19:09.680 I say this is the cheapest war
00:19:10.940 America's ever caught.
00:19:11.620 I'm not pro-Ukraine
00:19:12.260 because I give shit
00:19:13.880 about Ukrainians,
00:19:14.940 okay?
00:19:15.620 Like,
00:19:16.020 Ukrainians,
00:19:16.720 fine.
00:19:17.280 Like,
00:19:17.760 okay,
00:19:18.300 but I don't think
00:19:18.920 it's America's job
00:19:19.700 to interfere with foreign countries
00:19:21.140 and stuff like that.
00:19:22.040 But Russia has been
00:19:23.260 a persistent enemy
00:19:24.520 to the United States
00:19:25.540 for about a century now.
00:19:27.900 And they have not signaled
00:19:29.900 any willingness
00:19:30.780 to abate
00:19:31.660 that persistent threat status.
00:19:33.860 And what did our parents
00:19:36.820 go to Vietnam for?
00:19:38.640 What did they go to Korea for
00:19:40.800 but to attempt
00:19:42.360 to defang Russia
00:19:45.680 on the international stage?
00:19:48.580 Ukraine costs less
00:19:50.200 for us in those wars
00:19:51.460 and we're not even
00:19:52.340 sending our own people.
00:19:54.200 The reason why
00:19:55.000 my stance is flipped
00:19:55.940 on Ukraine
00:19:56.620 was I was actually convinced
00:19:57.860 by J.D. Vance on this.
00:19:59.220 He basically takes a stance
00:20:00.780 of,
00:20:01.080 look,
00:20:01.260 we bled Russia enough.
00:20:03.080 With their current
00:20:03.760 fertility rates,
00:20:04.800 they will never be a threat
00:20:06.460 to anyone again.
00:20:07.740 Can we just end the killing?
00:20:10.620 Okay?
00:20:10.940 Can we just end the killing now?
00:20:12.860 And that's when I'm like,
00:20:13.780 you know what?
00:20:14.260 You're right.
00:20:14.740 The incremental loss of life.
00:20:16.460 Like if this war goes on
00:20:17.460 for another five years,
00:20:19.140 realistically,
00:20:20.580 where is it going to end
00:20:21.400 in five years?
00:20:22.720 Just a lot more people
00:20:23.800 will be dead.
00:20:24.540 Yeah.
00:20:24.800 Just a lot more people
00:20:25.600 will be dead
00:20:26.260 and maybe one side
00:20:28.040 will have 20% more land
00:20:29.460 than they have today.
00:20:30.440 I do not think
00:20:31.860 that's a good equation.
00:20:32.900 Well,
00:20:33.200 and also it's unclear
00:20:33.980 which side too.
00:20:35.260 Yeah.
00:20:37.300 Just end it.
00:20:38.600 End the killing.
00:20:39.500 Okay?
00:20:40.060 But he doesn't see that way.
00:20:41.320 He believed,
00:20:42.500 and I can see
00:20:44.340 the logic behind this,
00:20:46.020 if we allow a country
00:20:47.680 to unjustly invade
00:20:49.260 another country,
00:20:50.440 right,
00:20:50.980 and take their land,
00:20:53.080 can they just keep going?
00:20:54.920 Right?
00:20:55.080 Like if their fear
00:20:57.400 is quote-unquote NATO,
00:20:58.960 well,
00:20:59.320 now they have justification
00:21:00.200 to attack all sorts
00:21:01.260 of other countries,
00:21:02.040 right?
00:21:02.320 Like Transistria,
00:21:03.840 definitely.
00:21:05.020 You know,
00:21:05.420 there's a lot of...
00:21:06.880 Wait,
00:21:07.200 Transistria?
00:21:08.720 I'm sorry.
00:21:09.340 ...the name of it,
00:21:09.860 right?
00:21:10.120 That's the region
00:21:10.760 next to Ukraine
00:21:11.680 that they would move to next
00:21:12.820 since they already have
00:21:13.480 a Russian public government
00:21:14.460 operational.
00:21:15.360 I see.
00:21:15.760 I'm not familiar with that.
00:21:16.000 They actually leaked
00:21:16.920 plans accidentally
00:21:18.000 that they did plan
00:21:18.900 to invade it
00:21:19.540 after Ukraine.
00:21:20.640 So,
00:21:21.220 yeah,
00:21:21.560 I mean,
00:21:21.880 we're just dealing
00:21:22.720 with one country
00:21:23.480 after another
00:21:24.320 if Russia feels
00:21:26.840 like they won this war.
00:21:27.960 The problem is
00:21:29.060 is they've depleted
00:21:30.660 their military capacity
00:21:32.240 in terms of humans
00:21:33.180 and they're not
00:21:34.340 producing more.
00:21:35.940 Russian women
00:21:36.540 aren't having kids.
00:21:37.760 They have an incredibly
00:21:39.160 low fertility rate.
00:21:40.520 They can't replace
00:21:41.660 the soldiers
00:21:42.200 that they've lost.
00:21:43.400 They've lost a generation.
00:21:45.740 Okay?
00:21:46.020 There's not gonna be
00:21:47.640 another war with Russia.
00:21:49.120 They don't have the tech
00:21:50.860 to fight anyone else.
00:21:52.260 They are dealing
00:21:53.020 with children's level
00:21:54.300 technology at this point.
00:21:56.180 Okay?
00:21:56.440 It's a bunch of
00:21:57.280 Soviet nonsense
00:21:58.720 that they're slightly
00:21:59.760 upgrading.
00:22:00.860 Their fleet
00:22:01.540 is basically
00:22:02.440 non-operational.
00:22:04.100 They can't operate.
00:22:05.940 I mean,
00:22:06.320 Ukrainians can basically
00:22:07.140 just put explosives
00:22:08.380 on an AI-operated
00:22:09.860 jet ski
00:22:10.560 and take out
00:22:11.220 anything now.
00:22:12.420 Like,
00:22:12.880 the nature of war
00:22:14.200 has changed.
00:22:14.800 All of their
00:22:15.480 star piles
00:22:16.380 are useless.
00:22:17.600 They don't matter anymore.
00:22:19.340 Do we need
00:22:19.720 to keep this going?
00:22:20.360 But I understand
00:22:21.400 his respect.
00:22:22.280 If you're approaching
00:22:23.100 this with his respect,
00:22:24.120 assassinating Trump
00:22:24.940 is probably
00:22:25.300 the single
00:22:25.980 number one thing
00:22:26.900 you could do
00:22:27.580 to move the needle
00:22:28.360 because Trump
00:22:29.000 is going to pull
00:22:30.080 the police.
00:22:31.440 He's gonna push
00:22:32.140 for an end
00:22:33.320 of the killing.
00:22:34.300 Right.
00:22:34.640 So this guy
00:22:35.340 sees Trump
00:22:36.120 say things like,
00:22:37.520 if I'm elected,
00:22:39.040 I'm just gonna
00:22:39.540 make a few calls
00:22:40.360 and even before
00:22:41.020 I'm in office,
00:22:41.620 I'm gonna end this war
00:22:42.460 and he thinks,
00:22:43.260 oh, great,
00:22:43.780 he's gonna get
00:22:44.400 some kind of
00:22:44.940 major concession
00:22:45.700 of land.
00:22:47.380 That's not cool.
00:22:48.840 Ukraine all the way.
00:22:50.060 And I have
00:22:51.180 to end this guy.
00:22:52.800 And he did,
00:22:53.480 by the way,
00:22:54.080 if I understand
00:22:54.700 correctly,
00:22:55.900 claim to have
00:22:56.540 voted for Trump
00:22:57.300 at one point,
00:22:58.540 but then come
00:22:59.080 to regret it.
00:22:59.980 Is that correct?
00:23:00.700 Yeah, well,
00:23:00.860 I mean,
00:23:01.160 this guy,
00:23:01.820 and people use this
00:23:02.720 to say that he's
00:23:03.620 like pro-Trump.
00:23:04.300 He voted for Trump
00:23:05.060 two election cycles ago.
00:23:06.740 In 2016.
00:23:08.040 Okay, so he did not
00:23:08.880 vote for Trump
00:23:09.440 in 2020.
00:23:10.520 No, no,
00:23:10.920 he is an absolutely
00:23:12.720 dyed-in-the-wool Democrat,
00:23:14.340 what we call
00:23:15.020 Democrat these days,
00:23:15.900 i.e.
00:23:16.260 pro-urban monoculture
00:23:17.400 individual.
00:23:17.760 Pro-Palestine, yeah.
00:23:19.080 Yeah, he's pro-Palestine,
00:23:20.760 he's pro-Ukraine,
00:23:21.720 he's not like
00:23:22.300 based where he has
00:23:23.780 like conflicting opinions.
00:23:24.820 He's just in line
00:23:25.960 with the urban monoculture
00:23:26.960 on every single step.
00:23:28.960 Well, and the blue hair.
00:23:30.000 The blue hair
00:23:30.620 is the rallying cry
00:23:33.120 stylistically
00:23:34.320 of far-left
00:23:36.460 membership.
00:23:37.400 I didn't see the blue hair
00:23:38.280 in recent pictures.
00:23:39.320 Did you see this?
00:23:40.080 And I was looking
00:23:40.760 and I tried to look for it.
00:23:42.280 Are you serious?
00:23:43.520 The picture of him wearing...
00:23:44.200 I think it's called
00:23:46.740 a flak jacket
00:23:47.700 and a little bandana
00:23:49.920 and half of his hair
00:23:51.600 is white
00:23:52.040 and then roughly
00:23:53.840 25 to 28% of it
00:23:56.180 is blue.
00:23:57.940 Yeah, by the way,
00:23:58.640 fans of our show today,
00:24:00.280 and I hope to become
00:24:01.100 more famous
00:24:01.600 as time goes on,
00:24:02.600 you'll get to say
00:24:03.360 you started following me
00:24:04.220 before my hair turned white.
00:24:05.440 We recently get a haircut
00:24:06.720 and I noticed
00:24:07.800 just how much of my hair...
00:24:09.180 I've been getting,
00:24:10.060 you know,
00:24:10.660 white hairs
00:24:11.260 for a while now.
00:24:12.780 Oh, no,
00:24:13.160 but this latest
00:24:13.940 backyard cheer
00:24:14.920 definitely nailed it.
00:24:15.700 It was like
00:24:16.400 getting close
00:24:17.240 to like 20%.
00:24:18.140 I know you can't see it
00:24:19.160 in my actual hair
00:24:20.100 because the rest of my hair
00:24:21.040 is so, well, colored,
00:24:22.780 but people in my family
00:24:24.040 generally get
00:24:25.640 pure white hair
00:24:26.680 at a fairly young age.
00:24:28.500 We never have
00:24:29.080 like hair recession
00:24:30.060 or the amount of hair
00:24:31.120 we have doesn't go down,
00:24:32.180 but we get pure white hair.
00:24:33.740 You like it, though.
00:24:34.680 You've seen like my dad.
00:24:35.640 He's got like a big
00:24:36.660 full head of white hair.
00:24:37.840 I just know
00:24:38.500 even fictional characters
00:24:40.300 with white hair.
00:24:41.560 It just gets me.
00:24:43.720 I'm very excited for this.
00:24:45.340 I'm so jealous
00:24:46.140 because my hair
00:24:46.820 will never be white.
00:24:47.780 It will be brown forever
00:24:49.560 and then ever so slightly gray.
00:24:51.920 I don't think I have
00:24:52.700 more than eight years
00:24:54.220 before I go full white.
00:24:55.360 I know.
00:24:56.240 I'm so excited.
00:24:57.280 So I'll be looking young
00:24:58.560 and just have jet white hair,
00:25:00.240 which I'm excited about.
00:25:01.160 This is why you're not allowed
00:25:01.740 to get assassinated.
00:25:02.940 Where will I get
00:25:04.020 white-haired Malcolm?
00:25:05.640 If you somehow
00:25:06.560 get assassinated,
00:25:07.620 don't do it.
00:25:08.560 Okay.
00:25:09.120 So when questioned
00:25:10.260 by the judge,
00:25:11.140 he said he had
00:25:12.560 quote unquote
00:25:13.880 zero funds
00:25:14.840 in his bank account.
00:25:16.080 He was living off
00:25:17.340 of a monthly income
00:25:18.360 of $3,000.
00:25:19.900 His only assets,
00:25:21.180 he told the court,
00:25:22.060 were two trucks
00:25:22.760 in Hawaii
00:25:23.240 that were worth
00:25:23.840 about $1,000 each.
00:25:26.300 So the $3,000,
00:25:27.700 nobody has any idea
00:25:28.680 where it's come from yet.
00:25:29.860 So I'm just going
00:25:30.520 to make a note of that.
00:25:31.940 His recent address
00:25:33.060 is listed in Hawaii,
00:25:34.480 but he spent most
00:25:35.060 of his time
00:25:35.380 in North Carolina,
00:25:36.580 according to property records.
00:25:38.100 Roos owned
00:25:38.740 a camp box Honolulu,
00:25:41.180 a shed building company.
00:25:42.240 It also built tiny homes,
00:25:43.740 according to a LinkedIn profile.
00:25:45.400 And he studied
00:25:46.480 at the North Carolina
00:25:48.500 Agricultural
00:25:49.180 and Technical State University,
00:25:50.980 which he graduated
00:25:51.760 in 1998.
00:25:53.980 He's...
00:25:54.540 Sorry, I'm just...
00:25:55.240 By the way,
00:25:55.680 I'm sending you
00:25:56.260 on WhatsApp
00:25:56.640 the picture of him
00:25:57.800 with partially blue hair
00:26:00.520 just so you know
00:26:01.440 I'm not crazy.
00:26:04.100 Because he totally...
00:26:05.940 And, by the way,
00:26:07.500 he referenced...
00:26:08.520 You're talking about him
00:26:09.580 in relation to
00:26:10.220 other assassinations.
00:26:11.600 So it's clear
00:26:12.240 that he planned
00:26:12.900 this assassination attempt
00:26:13.920 to make sure
00:26:14.760 that there couldn't be
00:26:15.640 any bystanders
00:26:16.620 who were killed.
00:26:18.000 In reference
00:26:19.300 to the last
00:26:20.060 assassination attempt,
00:26:22.220 he asked Kamala
00:26:25.080 and Biden
00:26:26.520 to go
00:26:27.680 and go to
00:26:29.020 the people
00:26:31.040 who were killed
00:26:31.620 families' funerals
00:26:32.540 and to see
00:26:33.500 if there was anything
00:26:34.020 they could do for them
00:26:34.820 because he didn't think
00:26:35.860 that Trump would do
00:26:36.460 anything for them.
00:26:37.600 And so, like,
00:26:38.360 clearly he saw that.
00:26:39.520 Now, I don't know
00:26:39.960 if he would have done that
00:26:40.740 had that not happened
00:26:41.600 with the other
00:26:42.060 assassination attempt.
00:26:43.380 But I think he saw it
00:26:44.240 and he was like,
00:26:44.860 I don't want to go out
00:26:46.540 doing something like that.
00:26:48.740 Okay.
00:26:49.540 And from what we know now,
00:26:51.760 the other assassin
00:26:52.500 was a clout chaser
00:26:53.420 and that was
00:26:54.500 the primary motivator.
00:26:55.920 When he went,
00:26:56.600 when Russia invaded
00:26:57.700 Ukraine in 2022,
00:26:59.080 here's a quote from him.
00:27:00.460 I'm coming to Ukraine
00:27:01.300 from Hawaii
00:27:01.940 to fight for your kids
00:27:03.600 and families
00:27:04.300 and democracy.
00:27:05.420 I will come and die
00:27:06.240 for you,
00:27:06.820 end quote.
00:27:07.660 So he,
00:27:08.700 and he shared a photo
00:27:09.460 of himself in Kiev,
00:27:10.540 Ukraine's capital.
00:27:11.200 You know,
00:27:11.360 it's quite hard
00:27:12.040 for men of fighting age
00:27:12.900 to leave Ukraine.
00:27:13.720 So, like,
00:27:14.400 going into this,
00:27:15.200 he is fully committed.
00:27:16.980 And he says then later,
00:27:18.060 quote,
00:27:18.300 my initial goal
00:27:18.980 was to fight,
00:27:19.880 but I'm 56.
00:27:21.260 So initially,
00:27:21.840 they were like,
00:27:22.560 I have no military experience.
00:27:24.180 So they were like,
00:27:25.220 you're not an ideal candidate.
00:27:26.820 So they said,
00:27:27.620 you're not right this minute.
00:27:28.880 So plan B
00:27:29.580 was to come here to Kiev
00:27:30.760 and promote getting more people here,
00:27:32.400 end quote.
00:27:33.220 Quote,
00:27:33.580 this is about good versus evil,
00:27:35.880 end quote.
00:27:36.760 And so he urged people,
00:27:38.060 even those who didn't have military skills,
00:27:39.460 to take up arms for Ukraine.
00:27:40.680 He offered to help connect them
00:27:41.640 with military units.
00:27:42.720 He was interviewed
00:27:43.220 by several news organizations,
00:27:44.500 including the New York Times
00:27:45.480 and Semford in 2023.
00:27:47.140 He told Semford
00:27:48.120 that he had not been able
00:27:49.700 to convince him.
00:27:50.320 Isn't that pronounced semaphore?
00:27:52.600 Semaphore,
00:27:53.100 I don't know.
00:27:54.200 Quote,
00:27:54.820 to issue one single visa,
00:27:56.660 end quote,
00:27:57.060 for soldiers.
00:27:57.900 It is not clear
00:27:58.720 whether he actually ever
00:28:00.000 had contact with the ministry.
00:28:01.920 Now,
00:28:02.400 the ministry said
00:28:03.020 he has no contact with the unit,
00:28:04.140 but they actually go
00:28:04.820 more into detail on this
00:28:05.800 in just a second.
00:28:09.240 CBS News foreign correspondent
00:28:11.000 Holly Williams
00:28:11.680 immediately recognized
00:28:12.620 Ross' name
00:28:13.200 when she woke up
00:28:14.440 in London on Monday
00:28:15.580 to the news of his arrest.
00:28:17.480 She'd been in contact
00:28:18.320 with him for more than a year
00:28:19.620 in the early stages
00:28:21.020 of the war in the Ukraine,
00:28:22.020 which she covered extensively.
00:28:23.600 It was one of the flyers
00:28:25.480 he had posted around Kiev
00:28:27.460 offering to help
00:28:28.560 other foreigners
00:28:29.240 get deployed
00:28:29.860 with Ukrainian battalions
00:28:31.060 that initially caught
00:28:32.280 William's eye
00:28:33.100 and prompted her
00:28:34.080 to get in touch with him.
00:28:35.320 They spoke at least once
00:28:36.340 on the phone
00:28:36.680 and texted frequently.
00:28:38.040 Ross put William in touch
00:28:38.900 with several foreign fighters
00:28:39.960 and she said
00:28:41.560 he seemed very genuine
00:28:43.080 and passionate
00:28:43.640 about supporting Ukraine
00:28:44.640 in his battle
00:28:45.060 to find off Russia's evasion.
00:28:46.660 But,
00:28:47.000 William said,
00:28:47.400 Ross at times
00:28:48.360 seemed fairly naive,
00:28:50.020 including when he spoke
00:28:50.880 of his ambition
00:28:51.400 to help bring thousands
00:28:52.440 of Afghan and Syrian
00:28:53.520 refugee fighters
00:28:54.640 to the Ukrainian war effort.
00:28:56.860 Ross told the New York Times
00:28:58.100 in 2023
00:28:59.000 that he was seeking recruits
00:29:00.960 among Afghan soldiers
00:29:01.960 who fled the Taliban,
00:29:03.440 aiming to purchase passports
00:29:04.900 through Pakistan
00:29:05.680 since it's such a corrupt country
00:29:07.300 and moved them
00:29:08.160 in some cases illegally
00:29:09.340 into Ukraine
00:29:10.440 from Pakistan and Iran.
00:29:12.080 The Times described Ross
00:29:13.060 as a, quote,
00:29:14.240 former construction worker
00:29:15.260 from Greensboro, North Carolina,
00:29:16.820 who spent several months
00:29:18.020 in Ukraine last year,
00:29:19.040 end quote.
00:29:20.520 The same months
00:29:21.500 he complained
00:29:22.060 to Sima Ford,
00:29:22.920 however it's pronounced,
00:29:24.520 about the Ukrainian government's
00:29:25.520 lack of support,
00:29:26.420 saying that they're being
00:29:27.100 overly rigid
00:29:27.760 about admitting foreign soldiers,
00:29:29.060 especially from Afghan,
00:29:30.060 over concerns
00:29:30.780 that they might be Russian spies.
00:29:32.940 Quote,
00:29:33.200 I have had partners
00:29:35.140 meeting with Ukraine
00:29:35.860 military's defense
00:29:36.740 every week
00:29:37.320 and still not been able
00:29:38.320 to get them to agree
00:29:39.100 to one single visa.
00:29:40.600 But unfortunately,
00:29:41.880 a representative
00:29:42.460 from Ukraine's foreign legion
00:29:43.820 told CNN
00:29:44.440 that he had reached out
00:29:45.700 to them several times online,
00:29:47.280 but, quote,
00:29:48.420 was never a part of the legion
00:29:49.800 and didn't cooperate
00:29:50.460 in any way,
00:29:51.000 end quote,
00:29:51.480 end quote.
00:29:52.120 The best way I can describe
00:29:53.400 his message is
00:29:54.440 delusional ideas,
00:29:56.220 end quote.
00:29:57.140 So,
00:29:58.080 and then, quote,
00:29:58.840 he was offering us
00:30:00.520 large numbers of recruits
00:30:01.860 from different countries,
00:30:02.980 but it was obvious to us
00:30:04.020 that his offers
00:30:04.560 were not realistic.
00:30:05.960 He didn't,
00:30:06.520 we didn't answer
00:30:07.600 and there was nothing
00:30:08.260 to answer to,
00:30:09.180 end quote.
00:30:11.380 Yeah,
00:30:11.920 this is a very,
00:30:12.960 it seems like,
00:30:14.820 upstart,
00:30:15.980 optimistic,
00:30:17.000 values-driven person
00:30:18.380 repeatedly
00:30:19.580 rubbing up against
00:30:22.000 the
00:30:22.800 logistical corruption
00:30:25.200 of bureaucracies,
00:30:26.260 which could
00:30:26.740 probably utilize
00:30:28.420 his help
00:30:29.080 if they weren't
00:30:29.580 so rigid
00:30:30.000 in the way
00:30:30.320 they operated.
00:30:31.440 Absolutely,
00:30:32.160 yeah,
00:30:32.340 his plan
00:30:33.000 was not stupid,
00:30:34.680 but he wasn't
00:30:35.640 able to
00:30:36.580 implement it
00:30:37.580 and, like,
00:30:38.660 if they're worried
00:30:39.320 about Russian spies,
00:30:40.540 then create
00:30:41.540 specific battalions
00:30:42.920 was the units
00:30:43.460 he's bringing over
00:30:44.060 from Afghanistan.
00:30:45.200 There are
00:30:45.940 genuinely people
00:30:46.960 after the Taliban
00:30:47.640 who took over
00:30:48.240 of military experience
00:30:49.520 trained by the U.S.
00:30:50.400 military in Afghanistan
00:30:51.580 who would be useful
00:30:53.220 in a situation like this.
00:30:54.760 Like,
00:30:55.700 the pure reason
00:30:57.420 they were turning
00:30:57.960 his nose at this
00:30:58.940 was bureaucratic
00:30:59.980 uncreativity
00:31:02.080 in terms of
00:31:03.160 handling this.
00:31:04.160 Yeah.
00:31:04.680 Well,
00:31:04.880 that's a frustrating
00:31:05.600 thing about
00:31:06.340 many bureaucracies
00:31:08.360 is that
00:31:09.120 even if you want
00:31:10.180 to help,
00:31:11.260 if you cannot help
00:31:12.720 through the specific
00:31:14.300 and correct channel
00:31:15.220 with the correct
00:31:16.180 certifications
00:31:17.840 and paperwork,
00:31:19.360 then you simply
00:31:20.300 cannot participate,
00:31:22.060 which is
00:31:22.780 a huge loss
00:31:24.700 to human productivity
00:31:25.960 and development.
00:31:27.540 Yeah,
00:31:27.880 I don't think,
00:31:29.440 like,
00:31:29.900 I wonder,
00:31:30.320 I don't think
00:31:30.760 I'm that much
00:31:31.620 crazy,
00:31:33.040 like,
00:31:33.280 if I had less
00:31:34.220 access to resources
00:31:35.420 than I have
00:31:36.040 or less access
00:31:36.660 to public respect
00:31:37.560 than I have
00:31:38.300 and I needed
00:31:39.380 to get people
00:31:40.340 to pay attention
00:31:40.980 to certain topics,
00:31:42.300 could I be seen
00:31:43.320 as as crazy
00:31:43.980 as this guy
00:31:44.580 in a different timeline?
00:31:45.860 You're probably
00:31:46.360 seen as more crazy
00:31:47.240 than this guy
00:31:47.840 who did not try
00:31:48.480 to start a religion.
00:31:50.080 Oh,
00:31:50.260 that's true,
00:31:50.760 yeah.
00:31:51.040 Yeah.
00:31:51.560 I'm definitely
00:31:52.180 more crazy than him.
00:31:53.580 So,
00:31:53.820 like,
00:31:54.060 I'm like,
00:31:56.600 I look at him
00:31:58.340 and I'm just like,
00:31:59.180 he was trying
00:32:00.200 his best
00:32:01.200 to live out
00:32:01.860 his moral thesis.
00:32:04.160 I believe
00:32:04.980 that he became
00:32:05.780 overly attached
00:32:06.660 to this Ukraine idea
00:32:07.880 and just kept
00:32:08.420 looking for solutions
00:32:09.480 instead of seeing
00:32:10.660 that they fought
00:32:12.180 for long enough.
00:32:12.940 The purpose
00:32:13.460 of them resisting
00:32:14.340 is over now
00:32:15.220 when fertility rates
00:32:16.700 are considered.
00:32:17.740 I do think,
00:32:18.520 though,
00:32:18.760 that his act
00:32:19.620 and the act
00:32:20.180 of the other assassin,
00:32:21.320 attempted assassin,
00:32:22.100 would-be assassin
00:32:22.920 of former President
00:32:24.340 Donald Trump
00:32:24.920 is that
00:32:25.460 this indicates
00:32:26.820 an Overton window
00:32:28.600 shift in
00:32:29.640 the way that
00:32:31.120 people view
00:32:32.140 acceptable actions
00:32:34.580 of protest.
00:32:36.540 I think that we,
00:32:37.560 and you see this also
00:32:38.540 in crime,
00:32:39.440 which we discussed
00:32:40.000 in another recent episode,
00:32:41.500 we've entered an age
00:32:43.140 in which it is seen
00:32:44.220 as appropriate
00:32:45.380 to take violent
00:32:46.780 and drastic action
00:32:47.880 if you believe
00:32:48.580 that you are morally
00:32:49.680 justified in doing so.
00:32:50.980 that it is okay
00:32:52.040 to steal,
00:32:52.800 that it is okay
00:32:53.360 to attempt to kill,
00:32:54.320 that it is okay
00:32:54.880 to engage
00:32:56.600 in election wiggles
00:32:57.520 if you believe
00:32:59.120 the cause is just.
00:33:00.960 And it scares me
00:33:02.400 because in the past
00:33:03.800 there was a lot
00:33:04.620 more respect
00:33:05.520 for civil society
00:33:07.180 and for rules
00:33:09.360 and institutions.
00:33:10.760 I don't blame people,
00:33:12.440 though,
00:33:13.360 for kind of
00:33:15.140 declaring bankruptcy
00:33:16.160 on institutions now
00:33:17.520 and saying
00:33:17.940 we have to take matters
00:33:18.940 into our own hands
00:33:19.860 because they've become
00:33:21.360 corrupted
00:33:21.820 in a meaningful way.
00:33:23.920 So people trusted
00:33:24.700 institutions more
00:33:25.440 in the past
00:33:25.800 because institutions worked
00:33:27.080 and they're not
00:33:27.920 working anymore
00:33:28.560 so people are taking
00:33:29.440 matters into their
00:33:30.180 own hands.
00:33:31.000 But it's still scary
00:33:32.840 that we live
00:33:33.340 in a society
00:33:33.860 in which that is happening.
00:33:35.840 I'm going to try
00:33:36.440 to get the clip now
00:33:37.300 because one of our fans
00:33:38.200 got it for us
00:33:39.160 of a popular show
00:33:40.360 where Democrats
00:33:41.120 basically say,
00:33:41.700 yeah,
00:33:41.800 it's okay to create
00:33:42.660 erection fraud.
00:33:43.980 Three weeks ago,
00:33:45.900 Henry Roberts raised
00:33:47.020 six million dollars
00:33:48.860 in dark money
00:33:49.820 to fund an off-the-books
00:33:51.500 guerrilla oppo operation.
00:33:54.780 He asked me to run it.
00:33:56.480 Nobody seems to be willing
00:33:57.460 to do what is necessary.
00:33:59.280 And what's that?
00:34:00.560 Whatever it takes.
00:34:02.600 Democrats act like
00:34:03.680 this is the 90s
00:34:04.940 and they're working
00:34:05.600 under the old rules.
00:34:07.180 The new rules are these.
00:34:09.680 Attack.
00:34:10.940 Lie.
00:34:11.600 Don't get caught.
00:34:12.600 And Machiavelli
00:34:13.480 wrote the prince
00:34:14.340 for the rulers.
00:34:15.780 Well,
00:34:16.840 we're rewriting it for us.
00:34:18.580 We need to have
00:34:19.760 more problems
00:34:20.360 with our erections
00:34:21.120 because they're just not,
00:34:23.040 you know,
00:34:23.540 we can't trust Republicans
00:34:24.640 so we have to do it
00:34:25.560 preemptively.
00:34:26.700 Now,
00:34:27.180 here's another interesting thing.
00:34:28.300 This guy had two kids
00:34:29.100 and so his kids
00:34:30.260 have spoken on this afterwards.
00:34:31.660 Holy, wait.
00:34:32.400 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:34:33.060 Sorry,
00:34:33.440 that's just sinking in.
00:34:34.380 He has children.
00:34:35.320 How old are they?
00:34:35.960 They must be grown.
00:34:37.040 They're grown, yeah.
00:34:38.420 Or at least,
00:34:39.000 I mean,
00:34:39.220 I don't know.
00:34:39.660 Someone in their 50s
00:34:40.520 probably is
00:34:41.260 20-somethings.
00:34:42.960 They don't seem grown
00:34:44.100 but they seem honestly
00:34:45.520 like super respectable people.
00:34:49.060 So Oren,
00:34:49.820 one of his sons,
00:34:50.780 told CNN,
00:34:51.740 quote,
00:34:52.800 it's not like his father
00:34:53.720 to do anything crazy
00:34:55.320 much less violent,
00:34:56.360 end quote,
00:34:56.900 end quote,
00:34:58.100 I don't have any comment
00:34:59.160 beyond a character profile
00:35:00.380 of him as a loving
00:35:01.460 and caring father
00:35:02.300 and honest,
00:35:03.480 hardworking man,
00:35:04.380 end quote.
00:35:05.300 And he told the Daily Mail
00:35:07.180 that his dad hates Trump
00:35:08.620 but stressed that he
00:35:10.040 is not a violent person
00:35:11.580 and said he's never
00:35:12.680 known him to own a gun,
00:35:14.060 following up later in text.
00:35:16.380 Quote,
00:35:17.060 I hate this game
00:35:18.140 every four years
00:35:19.040 and think that we all do.
00:35:21.320 And if my father
00:35:22.480 wants to be a martyr
00:35:23.540 to how broken
00:35:25.200 and disassociated
00:35:26.520 the process has become
00:35:27.740 from the real problems
00:35:29.100 and practical solution,
00:35:30.820 that's his choice,
00:35:32.320 end quote.
00:35:33.740 What a bro son.
00:35:35.300 I love that.
00:35:36.660 That's a bro done.
00:35:37.840 Yeah, man.
00:35:39.180 And keep in mind,
00:35:40.020 you're from us
00:35:41.000 Trump supporters.
00:35:42.420 This guy was a cliche Democrat
00:35:44.640 but at least he really valued
00:35:46.440 the things he said he valued.
00:35:48.020 Yeah.
00:35:48.300 I have heard so many Democrats
00:35:49.820 these days
00:35:50.600 where they're like,
00:35:51.540 I value X
00:35:52.400 and I value Y
00:35:53.660 and X and I want
00:35:55.080 are like crazy,
00:35:56.600 delusional nonsense.
00:35:59.040 This guy was like,
00:35:59.920 I don't want a country
00:36:01.320 to just be able to invade
00:36:02.680 like a peaceful neighbor
00:36:03.940 and try to take them over.
00:36:05.640 Like,
00:36:06.440 that's a cause
00:36:07.620 that I can understand
00:36:09.980 his mental calculations.
00:36:11.000 Okay,
00:36:11.420 but he also supports Palestine.
00:36:13.700 He also supports Palestine,
00:36:15.520 which,
00:36:16.480 okay.
00:36:17.220 But he also supports Taiwan.
00:36:18.980 So,
00:36:19.260 I don't know.
00:36:20.160 I mean,
00:36:20.800 whatever.
00:36:21.100 He seems like
00:36:22.220 a very well-made guy.
00:36:22.660 Watch our episode
00:36:23.480 as to the sexification of evil.
00:36:27.000 Like,
00:36:27.320 when and why
00:36:28.600 did we start to sexualize evil
00:36:30.340 in our society?
00:36:31.220 And I do think
00:36:31.920 within this urban monoculture
00:36:33.260 moral framework,
00:36:34.100 the more
00:36:34.640 low power a group is,
00:36:36.960 the more
00:36:37.540 high
00:36:38.300 morality they are.
00:36:40.400 Yeah,
00:36:40.840 yeah,
00:36:41.240 yeah,
00:36:41.480 yeah.
00:36:41.820 It is not really possible.
00:36:43.580 And you can see this
00:36:44.280 in every one of these conflicts.
00:36:45.440 He's supporting the weaker party,
00:36:46.660 not the more just party,
00:36:48.060 the weaker party.
00:36:49.680 Yeah,
00:36:50.080 okay.
00:36:50.900 Which is a,
00:36:51.580 yeah,
00:36:51.840 it's a very progressive
00:36:53.040 leftist view,
00:36:54.120 which
00:36:54.360 I get,
00:36:55.780 it's also
00:36:56.140 depending on which
00:36:57.480 faction,
00:36:58.360 the many,
00:36:58.640 many Christian factions
00:36:59.640 kind of also hold that,
00:37:00.700 you know.
00:37:00.800 Actually,
00:37:01.180 this is sort of the way
00:37:02.340 I see things,
00:37:04.120 right?
00:37:04.340 Like,
00:37:04.820 where do people break down
00:37:06.900 on which side they support?
00:37:09.020 He,
00:37:09.660 in every one of these instances,
00:37:10.780 supports the weaker party.
00:37:12.360 In some instances,
00:37:13.440 I see individuals
00:37:14.380 who always support
00:37:15.520 the stronger party
00:37:16.860 in every one of these
00:37:17.740 three potential conflicts.
00:37:19.300 And then,
00:37:19.980 in some instances,
00:37:21.380 I see people,
00:37:22.400 and this is where we fall,
00:37:23.400 do you support
00:37:23.920 the more civilized party
00:37:25.140 or do you support
00:37:25.740 the less civilized party?
00:37:27.200 Where if you support
00:37:27.880 the more civilized party,
00:37:28.940 than it's,
00:37:29.440 you know,
00:37:29.920 Ukraine and Israel?
00:37:30.580 Hold on.
00:37:31.060 No, no, no.
00:37:32.440 Universally progressive C.
00:37:34.640 And in this same show,
00:37:36.000 The Good Fight
00:37:36.480 that you were referring to earlier,
00:37:37.740 where they were like,
00:37:38.320 oh, it's justified
00:37:39.060 to have election wiggles
00:37:40.320 because,
00:37:41.020 you know,
00:37:41.900 the other side
00:37:42.440 is just that bad.
00:37:43.500 Republicans are seen
00:37:44.560 as the inherently uncivilized
00:37:46.060 and very stupid
00:37:47.100 and uneducated party.
00:37:48.700 In fact,
00:37:48.960 another common theme
00:37:49.920 of that show
00:37:50.640 is just how dumb
00:37:52.320 anyone who supports Trump,
00:37:54.040 with the exception
00:37:54.680 of one character,
00:37:56.280 is.
00:37:56.600 So all Trump-appointed judges,
00:37:59.220 the plot line
00:37:59.980 with all their court cases
00:38:01.060 is pretty much just like,
00:38:03.040 how do we dumb this down for them?
00:38:04.500 Let's make a cartoon
00:38:05.460 for our plea.
00:38:07.240 Let's hire actors
00:38:09.300 to react to them
00:38:10.580 in a way that manipulates them.
00:38:12.000 Let's do all sorts
00:38:13.200 of things like that.
00:38:14.200 So I don't think
00:38:16.460 your argument about
00:38:17.220 the cultured
00:38:18.180 or the civilized party works.
00:38:20.520 I think it is very common
00:38:22.120 for any group
00:38:22.900 to dehumanize the other side.
00:38:24.440 And they see us equally.
00:38:27.160 No,
00:38:27.740 I think you're wrong
00:38:28.600 about this.
00:38:29.380 I think that they,
00:38:31.320 when they are looking
00:38:32.260 at foreign powers,
00:38:34.100 they think that
00:38:34.940 the lack of civilized,
00:38:37.260 like being un...
00:38:39.540 Well,
00:38:39.900 we can talk about it,
00:38:40.940 but I've definitely seen
00:38:42.280 along Marxist lines,
00:38:44.300 individuals who both support,
00:38:45.900 like the tankies,
00:38:47.060 they both support Russia
00:38:48.420 and Palestine.
00:38:50.340 Oh.
00:38:51.220 This is definitely
00:38:52.200 a faction that exists.
00:38:54.260 Yeah.
00:38:54.640 Well,
00:38:54.880 you can get a faction
00:38:56.240 that supports
00:38:56.780 pretty much any permutation.
00:38:58.500 Now,
00:38:58.800 what I'm curious is
00:38:59.540 if you think this will affect
00:39:00.860 the 2024 U.S. presidential election
00:39:03.480 or not.
00:39:04.340 In the betting odds,
00:39:05.200 we've seen basically
00:39:06.020 zero change
00:39:06.720 or 1% change,
00:39:08.260 whereas with the first
00:39:09.200 assassination attempt,
00:39:10.300 we saw roughly
00:39:11.020 11% change.
00:39:13.020 So,
00:39:14.000 I don't know,
00:39:14.520 we've normalized to it.
00:39:16.000 This is the new school shooting,
00:39:17.480 you know,
00:39:17.880 just another one.
00:39:19.520 Take a shot.
00:39:20.300 Baby,
00:39:21.160 you're okay.
00:39:22.380 Hey, Mom.
00:39:24.260 It's all right, Stanley.
00:39:25.480 We will get through this
00:39:26.980 as a family.
00:39:28.240 Stanley,
00:39:29.200 well,
00:39:30.140 do you want to tell your father
00:39:31.380 about what happened
00:39:32.040 at school today?
00:39:33.020 Um,
00:39:33.940 oh,
00:39:34.260 I flunked my math quiz.
00:39:36.440 No,
00:39:37.040 the other thing.
00:39:39.100 Oh,
00:39:39.640 the school shooting?
00:39:40.920 Yes,
00:39:41.500 the school shooting.
00:39:43.260 Oh,
00:39:43.560 yeah,
00:39:43.720 some kid shot up the school.
00:39:45.060 Who shot up the school?
00:39:46.260 Was it you?
00:39:47.700 No.
00:39:48.300 Did you get shot?
00:39:49.840 No.
00:39:50.720 Oh,
00:39:51.700 well,
00:39:52.020 what's this about
00:39:52.660 failing a math quiz?
00:39:53.880 Well,
00:39:54.240 okay,
00:39:54.420 so I also want to note here
00:39:55.740 that this guy's book,
00:39:56.880 which was a 291-page
00:39:58.400 self-published book.
00:39:59.600 Oh,
00:39:59.840 it's out there.
00:40:00.800 Yeah.
00:40:01.020 It's titled
00:40:02.160 Ukraine's Unwinnable War,
00:40:04.260 The Fatal Flaw of Democracy,
00:40:06.380 World Abandonment,
00:40:07.820 and the Global Citizen Taiwan,
00:40:10.200 Afghan,
00:40:11.180 North Korea,
00:40:12.300 and the End of Humanity
00:40:13.520 is what the book is titled.
00:40:15.240 Okay,
00:40:16.140 that's a title.
00:40:17.420 That's a mouthful.
00:40:19.880 One thing I found interesting
00:40:21.460 in the comments
00:40:22.080 that was suggested,
00:40:23.400 and I don't know
00:40:23.960 if this works for presidents
00:40:24.800 because you have a need
00:40:25.480 to make,
00:40:25.900 you know,
00:40:26.400 international things,
00:40:27.580 but I actually quite like
00:40:28.360 this idea
00:40:28.860 for local politicians.
00:40:30.240 is they said
00:40:31.460 that the way
00:40:31.960 that you could end
00:40:32.560 a lot of the corruption
00:40:33.300 that we're seeing
00:40:33.820 in terms of like
00:40:34.400 actually trying to clean up
00:40:35.240 cities
00:40:36.020 is you make a law
00:40:37.400 that mayors
00:40:38.200 cannot have protection details
00:40:40.800 when they're walking
00:40:41.420 around their cities.
00:40:42.520 Well,
00:40:42.640 then they would just stop
00:40:43.440 walking around their cities.
00:40:44.960 Well,
00:40:45.220 their cities need to be safe.
00:40:46.860 They barely walk around
00:40:47.780 their cities as it is.
00:40:48.860 I don't think that
00:40:49.520 would be very effective.
00:40:51.640 If you want to stop
00:40:52.380 corruption in politics,
00:40:53.520 no longer allow
00:40:54.220 for any political
00:40:54.980 denominations,
00:40:56.360 like,
00:40:57.080 aside from
00:40:58.580 citizen donations
00:40:59.560 under $50.
00:41:00.240 was,
00:41:01.460 and I don't know
00:41:01.780 if I told you about this,
00:41:02.860 was the idea
00:41:04.900 that whenever a president
00:41:06.240 leaves his second term
00:41:07.220 in office,
00:41:07.620 he's executed.
00:41:10.560 Only people
00:41:11.300 who are willing
00:41:11.700 to give their lives
00:41:12.880 to the role
00:41:13.380 are willing
00:41:13.700 to take the role.
00:41:14.580 So,
00:41:15.180 if you are running
00:41:16.120 for president,
00:41:16.900 you know,
00:41:17.140 you're not running
00:41:17.880 for potential benefits
00:41:19.840 afterwards.
00:41:20.500 You're not running
00:41:20.900 for a long-term ego.
00:41:21.920 It's only if
00:41:22.840 you are literally
00:41:23.960 willing to give
00:41:24.660 your life for this position
00:41:25.820 because I think
00:41:26.780 that that would lead
00:41:27.320 to much higher action.
00:41:29.060 Now,
00:41:29.620 I don't know
00:41:30.080 if that's as realistic,
00:41:30.980 but I have some
00:41:32.100 government plans
00:41:32.940 drawn out
00:41:33.480 and we'll see
00:41:33.940 how those work.
00:41:38.380 It's so funny.
00:41:39.280 Our other friends
00:41:40.280 who have dreams
00:41:41.780 of running
00:41:42.300 for president
00:41:43.000 that they consider
00:41:45.440 extreme and crazy
00:41:46.780 are like,
00:41:47.300 well,
00:41:47.460 I would run
00:41:47.940 on one platform issue
00:41:49.440 and that is
00:41:49.880 to turn
00:41:50.380 all tax returns
00:41:51.740 into a one-page return,
00:41:53.540 which is dreamy,
00:41:54.520 but also like,
00:41:55.700 you know,
00:41:56.060 pretty violent
00:41:56.860 considering how
00:41:57.680 corrupt the tax life
00:42:00.100 is.
00:42:00.360 Well, you know,
00:42:00.860 you know who's
00:42:01.020 going to hate that.
00:42:01.800 What's that?
00:42:02.120 What's the tax pro
00:42:03.660 or whatever,
00:42:04.240 that app
00:42:04.700 that literally
00:42:05.220 has a contract?
00:42:06.200 TurboTax.
00:42:07.100 TurboTax has a contract
00:42:08.700 with the U.S. government?
00:42:09.560 No, no, no.
00:42:10.000 You don't understand
00:42:11.040 how corrupt
00:42:11.580 the U.S. tax system is.
00:42:13.120 Literally,
00:42:14.120 there are parts,
00:42:15.160 there are certain,
00:42:15.920 for example,
00:42:16.480 non-profit tax filings.
00:42:17.800 We had to make
00:42:18.220 a different type
00:42:19.240 of non-profit tax filing
00:42:20.280 for the Pregnantist Foundation
00:42:21.400 after we received
00:42:22.420 that larger grant
00:42:24.180 from the Survival
00:42:24.900 and Flourishing Fund
00:42:25.720 and we had to fill out
00:42:27.780 a more detailed one.
00:42:29.480 I tried to,
00:42:30.160 I downloaded the form
00:42:31.360 and I completed it.
00:42:32.600 I did all the things
00:42:33.520 and then I needed
00:42:34.620 to file it.
00:42:35.920 Well,
00:42:36.840 there was no place
00:42:37.640 for me to file it.
00:42:38.600 There was no place
00:42:39.260 I could mail it
00:42:40.020 and so I contacted
00:42:41.300 the IRS,
00:42:42.480 which is our tax body
00:42:44.060 in the United States
00:42:44.760 and I said,
00:42:45.220 well,
00:42:45.400 where do I send the form?
00:42:46.400 I downloaded it,
00:42:47.020 I completed it.
00:42:47.700 They're like,
00:42:47.960 oh,
00:42:48.100 you can only submit it online.
00:42:50.280 I'm like,
00:42:50.740 okay,
00:42:50.900 great,
00:42:51.160 where's the website?
00:42:51.860 They're like,
00:42:52.100 no,
00:42:52.280 no,
00:42:52.360 no,
00:42:52.480 you have to submit it
00:42:53.560 through an authorized
00:42:55.080 tax filer
00:42:56.600 and I say,
00:42:58.060 oh,
00:42:58.360 okay,
00:42:58.660 so I have to go
00:42:59.300 to a company
00:42:59.980 that is authorized
00:43:01.600 to work with me.
00:43:02.320 It would be like $500
00:43:02.840 that we were going
00:43:03.620 to submit it.
00:43:04.400 And not only that,
00:43:05.520 I was like,
00:43:05.960 okay,
00:43:06.160 fine,
00:43:06.420 you know,
00:43:06.560 I'll pay someone
00:43:07.200 a token amount
00:43:07.960 to submit
00:43:08.420 the already completed form.
00:43:09.620 Maybe I can get
00:43:10.060 a discount
00:43:10.440 from their support team
00:43:11.400 or something.
00:43:11.860 I was willing
00:43:12.320 to play the game.
00:43:15.120 No,
00:43:15.920 that was not an option.
00:43:17.020 I had to completely
00:43:18.380 go through
00:43:18.840 their entire software
00:43:20.220 and do the entire thing
00:43:22.000 over again
00:43:22.640 and then submit it.
00:43:24.860 And this is the,
00:43:25.960 so I have to pay
00:43:27.280 a private organization
00:43:28.740 that is obviously
00:43:29.460 like lobbied the government
00:43:30.640 and filled out
00:43:31.300 a bunch of paperwork
00:43:31.940 and filled their own
00:43:32.860 like filing forms
00:43:33.760 and paid all this stuff
00:43:34.580 to like get in
00:43:35.440 in with the government
00:43:36.260 to pay the government
00:43:38.400 money.
00:43:39.360 Well,
00:43:39.480 as a nonprofit,
00:43:40.140 I'm not even
00:43:40.620 paying the government
00:43:41.300 money.
00:43:41.720 So maybe that's,
00:43:42.320 that's what's going on
00:43:42.960 is I'm not paying them enough,
00:43:44.000 but it just,
00:43:44.820 it's amazing how corrupt
00:43:45.820 our system is.
00:43:46.440 It isn't just TurboTax,
00:43:47.360 but this is why
00:43:47.900 this could never happen.
00:43:49.000 We can't engage
00:43:49.780 in tax reform.
00:43:50.720 Like as a company,
00:43:52.380 like I was,
00:43:53.220 I was running
00:43:53.760 for federal office.
00:43:54.860 TurboTax is,
00:43:55.400 is,
00:43:55.700 is,
00:43:55.880 yeah.
00:43:56.620 Yeah.
00:43:56.980 Because for those
00:43:58.140 who are not
00:43:58.620 in the United States,
00:43:59.540 TurboTax is a,
00:44:00.740 a private organization
00:44:02.040 that is an intense
00:44:04.140 lobbyist
00:44:04.900 to the United States
00:44:05.780 government
00:44:06.140 that sort of has
00:44:07.380 cornered a large
00:44:08.480 proportion
00:44:09.240 of the tax filing
00:44:10.940 market in the United States.
00:44:12.300 They've intentionally
00:44:13.040 made tax filing
00:44:13.900 more complicated
00:44:14.820 so that you cannot
00:44:15.620 file it without
00:44:16.180 their product.
00:44:17.000 Right.
00:44:17.580 And then there's
00:44:18.060 a lot of other
00:44:18.940 private interests
00:44:20.660 that have lobbied
00:44:21.500 for all sorts
00:44:22.140 of unique tax loopholes
00:44:23.580 so that,
00:44:24.520 that,
00:44:24.820 that even further
00:44:25.540 complicates U.S. tax code.
00:44:27.240 There are all these
00:44:27.640 weird deductions
00:44:28.400 and rules
00:44:29.200 and loopholes.
00:44:30.640 And so basically
00:44:31.500 people with money
00:44:32.260 and resources
00:44:32.920 and organizations
00:44:34.160 that make money
00:44:34.920 from people
00:44:35.360 who are forced
00:44:35.920 to navigate
00:44:36.380 this incredibly
00:44:36.920 complex system
00:44:37.800 have made it such
00:44:39.140 that there is
00:44:39.760 no hope
00:44:40.460 of reforming
00:44:41.240 or simplifying
00:44:41.860 U.S. tax code,
00:44:43.560 which is...
00:44:44.060 Well,
00:44:44.320 remember the 999 plan?
00:44:46.480 I love that,
00:44:47.460 that politician.
00:44:48.240 I don't remember
00:44:48.920 the 999.
00:44:49.720 So it was a black
00:44:50.740 politician in the original...
00:44:52.300 The rent is too damn
00:44:53.120 high guy?
00:44:54.260 Yeah,
00:44:54.660 no,
00:44:54.960 no,
00:44:55.460 no,
00:44:55.600 no.
00:44:55.940 This was like
00:44:56.680 the legit guy
00:44:57.460 who was actually
00:44:58.160 top of Republican
00:44:59.060 polling for a pretty
00:45:00.120 long period.
00:45:00.800 I think this was
00:45:01.220 in the initial
00:45:01.800 Trump election.
00:45:03.200 He ran like
00:45:03.920 Papa John's pieces.
00:45:05.700 Cool.
00:45:06.280 I'll add it in post.
00:45:07.180 Herman Cain
00:45:08.100 is the candidate
00:45:08.720 I was thinking of.
00:45:09.980 He was,
00:45:10.960 I think,
00:45:11.620 in an alternate timeline
00:45:12.680 as crazy and amazing
00:45:14.020 a president
00:45:14.460 as Trump was.
00:45:15.540 He was,
00:45:16.260 I loved him
00:45:16.940 so effing much.
00:45:18.700 He was like
00:45:19.180 my guy as a candidate.
00:45:20.600 So he wanted
00:45:21.240 9% income tax,
00:45:23.340 9% tails tax,
00:45:25.180 and 9% business tax
00:45:27.280 across everything,
00:45:29.140 flat tax,
00:45:30.420 and he,
00:45:31.720 one of my favorite
00:45:32.500 things about him
00:45:33.080 is he goes,
00:45:33.600 and to quote
00:45:34.120 a famous poet,
00:45:34.840 and then he
00:45:36.040 went through
00:45:36.560 the lyrics
00:45:37.040 of a song
00:45:37.660 from the Pokemon
00:45:38.340 movie.
00:45:41.760 And it appears
00:45:42.780 that he might
00:45:43.340 not have known
00:45:44.020 he was doing this.
00:45:45.760 I believe these words
00:45:47.300 came from
00:45:49.300 the Pokemon movie.
00:45:53.300 The media
00:45:54.140 pointed that out.
00:45:56.760 I'm not sure
00:45:57.900 who the original
00:45:59.000 author is,
00:45:59.960 so don't go
00:46:01.640 write an article
00:46:02.360 about
00:46:02.880 the poem.
00:46:05.900 But it says
00:46:07.180 a lot
00:46:07.780 about where
00:46:09.540 I am,
00:46:11.040 where I am
00:46:12.020 with my wife
00:46:12.720 and my family,
00:46:13.420 and where we are
00:46:14.240 as a nation.
00:46:18.300 Life
00:46:18.860 can be a challenge.
00:46:22.960 Life can seem
00:46:24.580 impossible.
00:46:26.160 It's never
00:46:28.960 easy
00:46:29.600 when there's
00:46:31.960 so much
00:46:33.140 on the line.
00:46:36.840 But you
00:46:37.760 and I
00:46:38.880 can make
00:46:40.180 a difference.
00:46:42.940 No!
00:46:43.960 That's so good!
00:46:44.720 This guy
00:46:45.580 is my
00:46:46.860 f***ing hero.
00:46:48.380 Why did he not,
00:46:49.620 oh,
00:46:50.080 this makes me
00:46:50.780 so sad.
00:46:51.800 I thought we lived
00:46:52.420 in the best
00:46:53.360 possible timeline.
00:46:53.640 The craziest timeline?
00:46:54.940 No, no, no, no.
00:46:55.320 We don't live
00:46:55.860 in the best possible timeline.
00:46:56.720 Crazier timeline,
00:46:56.940 this guy ended up winning,
00:46:57.960 and I love him.
00:46:59.380 Oh, man.
00:47:00.020 But anyway,
00:47:00.780 that's,
00:47:01.740 but you're never
00:47:03.880 going to,
00:47:04.160 I mean,
00:47:04.360 like 999 is,
00:47:05.580 you know,
00:47:05.880 like German.
00:47:06.640 No, no, no.
00:47:07.600 I always make
00:47:08.380 my phone extensions
00:47:09.220 when I can choose
00:47:10.040 them,
00:47:10.620 999,
00:47:11.240 because I just want
00:47:11.820 like no, no, no calls.
00:47:13.420 But,
00:47:14.440 I don't know.
00:47:15.100 The word needs
00:47:16.520 some,
00:47:17.180 some,
00:47:18.400 I need some more.
00:47:19.780 Simone,
00:47:20.360 you too frequently
00:47:22.560 use the term
00:47:23.660 live and schram.
00:47:24.640 Yeah.
00:47:25.420 For my liking,
00:47:27.040 you're always like,
00:47:27.720 well,
00:47:27.860 we need more live and schram.
00:47:30.180 Well, no,
00:47:30.700 it's when our kids
00:47:31.220 are in my face,
00:47:31.960 I'm like,
00:47:32.320 get out of my face,
00:47:33.180 I need more live and schram.
00:47:34.340 I like,
00:47:34.980 well,
00:47:35.100 if people are going
00:47:35.820 to call us Nazis,
00:47:36.640 I just want to keep
00:47:37.400 using like Nazi references,
00:47:39.700 but then you always
00:47:40.360 point out that someone's
00:47:41.320 going to misconstrue it,
00:47:42.540 you know,
00:47:42.940 and like,
00:47:43.520 they are,
00:47:44.600 you know,
00:47:44.980 I'm like walking
00:47:45.640 around our house
00:47:46.480 and I'm like,
00:47:47.220 man,
00:47:47.580 like this,
00:47:48.180 you know,
00:47:48.320 our garbage bag storage
00:47:49.540 bin is just getting
00:47:50.300 too messy.
00:47:50.920 I need a solution,
00:47:52.140 a final solution.
00:47:53.560 And it just,
00:47:54.580 Simone,
00:47:55.320 you are going to get us
00:47:56.320 so in trouble one day.
00:47:57.820 There is one famous person
00:47:59.100 we've met though,
00:48:00.160 where I made like
00:48:01.300 a Nazi reference
00:48:02.060 and he,
00:48:02.720 he got that
00:48:04.100 I was making a joke
00:48:05.180 and it made me feel
00:48:05.800 so validated and okay
00:48:06.960 because at least
00:48:07.980 who was it?
00:48:09.960 The one person.
00:48:10.940 Okay,
00:48:11.360 that guy?
00:48:11.920 Okay,
00:48:12.200 yeah,
00:48:12.540 we can't say.
00:48:14.460 But yeah,
00:48:15.080 when I was asleep?
00:48:16.380 Yes,
00:48:16.740 it was when you were asleep.
00:48:18.260 Oh,
00:48:18.500 you're so sweet.
00:48:19.400 I really appreciate you.
00:48:20.840 I'm sorry.
00:48:21.800 That is one of the biggest
00:48:22.720 mistakes in my life.
00:48:24.440 No,
00:48:24.920 because you would have
00:48:25.520 passed out anyway.
00:48:26.520 It was too late.
00:48:27.840 But yeah,
00:48:28.180 no,
00:48:28.400 no,
00:48:28.620 I hate that I can't
00:48:29.680 make Nazi jokes
00:48:30.700 because the one thing
00:48:31.900 that Jews always do,
00:48:33.280 at least they did
00:48:34.120 in the days
00:48:34.600 of Mel Brooks movies,
00:48:35.820 was make Nazi jokes.
00:48:37.160 It's springtime
00:48:39.540 for Hitler
00:48:40.880 and Germany.
00:48:45.360 We're marching
00:48:47.020 to a faster pace.
00:48:52.160 Look out,
00:48:53.720 here comes
00:48:54.960 the master race.
00:48:58.320 Like,
00:48:58.960 I don't get,
00:49:00.400 and I'm,
00:49:00.840 I'm probably Jewish.
00:49:02.040 Jewish.
00:49:03.020 So,
00:49:04.000 like,
00:49:04.440 technically.
00:49:05.700 She means
00:49:06.260 metrilineally Jewish.
00:49:07.600 We've been
00:49:08.000 looking at getting it
00:49:09.300 approved with the Jewish state,
00:49:10.500 but I just realized,
00:49:11.340 like,
00:49:11.480 we actually don't have,
00:49:13.140 like,
00:49:14.180 I don't have time
00:49:16.000 to go through.
00:49:16.920 Records is mine.
00:49:18.180 We could do it
00:49:18.920 if we really had time,
00:49:20.060 but I just don't care.
00:49:22.380 Like,
00:49:22.860 I care a little bit,
00:49:24.200 but not enough
00:49:24.880 to spend,
00:49:25.560 like,
00:49:26.000 multiple,
00:49:27.080 full days on this.
00:49:27.360 It seems so tedious
00:49:28.220 going through all this.
00:49:28.980 And now we're at a state
00:49:30.060 where it's pretty clear to us
00:49:31.260 that's what it's going to come to.
00:49:32.560 Well,
00:49:32.760 and who cares
00:49:33.840 if I'm actually Jewish or not?
00:49:35.320 We love Jews
00:49:36.300 and we love Jewish.
00:49:37.720 Yeah,
00:49:38.000 but I've also realized
00:49:38.780 I'm not going to let my kids,
00:49:39.980 like,
00:49:40.300 earlier we did a video
00:49:41.160 where we were raising our kids
00:49:42.260 with,
00:49:42.440 like,
00:49:42.660 Jewish religion
00:49:43.300 alongside.
00:49:43.640 Oh,
00:49:43.960 yeah.
00:49:44.800 And we've moved further
00:49:45.920 and further away from that
00:49:46.860 as time has gone.
00:49:47.400 I don't know.
00:49:48.060 I mean,
00:49:48.320 I'm still bullish on them
00:49:49.380 doing some Jewish holidays.
00:49:51.580 Some,
00:49:52.120 but here's the problem.
00:49:53.320 Judaism has been
00:49:54.240 far,
00:49:54.880 far,
00:49:55.180 far too conquered
00:49:56.200 by its mystical side
00:49:58.080 and,
00:49:59.140 like,
00:50:00.280 I just don't know
00:50:00.760 how much actual Judaism
00:50:01.900 is left.
00:50:02.780 Well,
00:50:03.120 you know,
00:50:03.460 if your stance
00:50:04.140 on mysticism is,
00:50:06.600 it holds,
00:50:07.360 if your theories
00:50:07.980 around mysticism hold,
00:50:09.900 the mystic side
00:50:10.920 will not flourish
00:50:12.460 over the long term
00:50:13.500 and in the end.
00:50:14.260 Right,
00:50:14.720 but if you allow it
00:50:16.060 to conquer,
00:50:16.620 it can destroy
00:50:17.180 an entire culture
00:50:18.120 like it did with Islam
00:50:19.160 in the system.
00:50:20.000 Oh,
00:50:20.600 I think that there will
00:50:21.740 always be a faction
00:50:22.800 of non-mystic Jews
00:50:23.840 or mystic Jews
00:50:25.520 who turn non-mystic
00:50:26.600 when they discover
00:50:27.300 that mysticism
00:50:28.080 is not good for them
00:50:29.620 or not working out
00:50:30.880 that will.
00:50:32.120 Yeah,
00:50:32.340 so when people
00:50:33.600 understand what I mean here,
00:50:34.460 look,
00:50:34.760 it was Christianity,
00:50:35.900 right?
00:50:36.700 Christianity was Judaism
00:50:37.660 and then we added,
00:50:38.740 you know,
00:50:39.380 some additional texts
00:50:41.020 and it becomes
00:50:41.540 a new religion.
00:50:42.120 You add the New Testament,
00:50:42.860 it becomes a new religion.
00:50:44.180 And then,
00:50:44.540 you know,
00:50:44.840 with Islam,
00:50:46.020 then you add,
00:50:47.080 you know,
00:50:47.380 the Koran
00:50:48.460 and it becomes
00:50:49.000 a new religion.
00:50:49.640 And then Judaism,
00:50:51.000 you know,
00:50:51.320 what was it,
00:50:52.060 a thousand years ago,
00:50:53.160 500 years ago,
00:50:53.980 they added a new text
00:50:55.480 long after the other religions,
00:50:57.580 the Kabbalah literature.
00:50:59.720 And it doesn't become
00:51:01.120 a new religion.
00:51:01.880 Why?
00:51:02.720 So when people hear me
00:51:03.900 like a stall Judaism,
00:51:05.440 I am a stalling
00:51:06.820 the pre and non-mystical Judaism.
00:51:10.800 Yes,
00:51:11.280 the iterations of Judaism
00:51:13.700 that are antagonistic
00:51:16.660 to Kabbalistic tradition.
00:51:17.740 You've made it clear
00:51:18.720 that pretty much
00:51:19.300 every major religion
00:51:20.240 has factions
00:51:21.140 that you admire
00:51:21.900 and factions
00:51:22.420 that you don't
00:51:22.980 and that's fine.
00:51:24.620 But I don't want to,
00:51:25.520 I mean,
00:51:25.720 we do have to have people
00:51:26.400 that are like,
00:51:26.740 oh,
00:51:26.860 why do you spend
00:51:27.320 so much time
00:51:27.800 in some tracks
00:51:28.360 like arguing
00:51:29.680 that you're not
00:51:30.320 explicitly anti-Semitic?
00:51:31.700 And it's like,
00:51:32.180 well,
00:51:33.680 it's because
00:51:34.460 a lot of people
00:51:35.920 are going to try
00:51:36.320 to paint us that way.
00:51:37.820 I don't know,
00:51:38.300 don't people see us
00:51:39.020 as overly...
00:51:41.060 Well,
00:51:41.980 yeah,
00:51:42.180 some people see us
00:51:42.780 as overly
00:51:43.400 filio-Semitic,
00:51:44.700 which I guess we are.
00:51:46.420 I would say we are.
00:51:48.300 When you look at our friends,
00:51:49.620 when you look at
00:51:50.380 the religious histories
00:51:53.920 that we find
00:51:54.700 most fascinating,
00:51:55.820 religious groups
00:51:56.420 that we think are flourishing,
00:51:58.220 that we think
00:51:59.020 everyone can learn
00:52:00.020 a lot from,
00:52:01.820 groups that we generally
00:52:02.860 respect a lot
00:52:03.780 for their achievements
00:52:04.700 broadly,
00:52:05.600 come on.
00:52:06.780 But whatever.
00:52:07.380 I think that there's
00:52:10.120 a long history
00:52:10.940 of great Jewish comedians
00:52:12.480 and one of the things
00:52:13.600 that comedians
00:52:14.340 turn to a lot
00:52:15.060 is super controversial
00:52:16.060 and not okay subjects,
00:52:17.260 including anti-Semitism.
00:52:18.860 And maybe one of the issues
00:52:20.040 with anti-Semitism
00:52:20.840 these days
00:52:21.560 is that Jews
00:52:22.340 stop joking about it
00:52:23.500 and suddenly everyone's
00:52:24.260 getting all anti-Semitic
00:52:25.280 and we can't make fun
00:52:26.000 of them anymore.
00:52:26.600 So what's going on, guys?
00:52:27.620 I don't know.
00:52:29.200 Again,
00:52:29.700 we need a solution
00:52:30.540 to this problem.
00:52:32.160 Are you a final solution?
00:52:34.160 Yes, Malcolm.
00:52:35.380 You are the worst, Simone.
00:52:36.540 I love you.
00:52:37.700 I love you, too.
00:52:38.600 Have a wonderful day.
00:52:40.760 You, too.
00:52:42.800 All right.
00:52:43.400 So for dinner tonight,
00:52:44.860 do we have leftovers
00:52:45.540 from yesterday
00:52:46.140 for the meats?
00:52:47.340 Okay, so it appears
00:52:48.820 we have leftovers
00:52:49.360 of rice as well.
00:52:51.280 A little bit of meat
00:52:51.920 and a little bit of fried rice.
00:52:52.800 I figure it's just
00:52:53.380 the perfect one portion serving.
00:52:55.540 Maybe with some steamed buns?
00:52:57.500 No.
00:52:58.380 If you're adding anything to it,
00:52:59.740 I got some potatoes today.
00:53:01.800 You got potatoes?
00:53:03.580 Either the potatoes
00:53:04.440 or the...
00:53:05.560 You got potatoes
00:53:06.360 at Trader Joe's?
00:53:07.820 Yes.
00:53:09.420 It's a mix
00:53:10.300 of cut potatoes
00:53:11.660 with, like,
00:53:12.520 some, like,
00:53:13.260 French, like,
00:53:13.980 mushrooms
00:53:14.480 and, like,
00:53:15.280 some other things.
00:53:15.660 Oh, oh,
00:53:16.280 one of the frozen bags.
00:53:17.940 One of the frozen bags.
00:53:19.460 So you cook
00:53:20.120 a little bit of that.
00:53:21.060 I think that would go
00:53:21.660 really well
00:53:22.380 with what I'm eating today.
00:53:24.860 Okay.
00:53:26.000 So is it okay?
00:53:27.080 Do you want me
00:53:27.500 to stir fry
00:53:27.960 everything together?
00:53:29.060 Is that okay?
00:53:30.400 Or do I have to do
00:53:31.060 everything separately?
00:53:31.680 Because I'm just thinking,
00:53:32.940 like,
00:53:33.100 three pans
00:53:33.800 versus one pan
00:53:34.560 for me in terms
00:53:35.100 of cleanup.
00:53:35.520 That works.
00:53:36.100 That works.
00:53:36.540 Whatever you think
00:53:36.980 is best.
00:53:37.340 Start with the frozen
00:53:38.060 thing and then add
00:53:38.800 the other stuff
00:53:39.360 in later.
00:53:40.380 Hi.
00:53:41.040 Okay.
00:53:41.460 I will do that.
00:53:42.380 I love you.
00:53:43.840 I love you too.
00:53:46.740 God.
00:53:48.000 You need to stop
00:53:48.660 being so gay,
00:53:49.480 okay?
00:53:50.100 Because you're
00:53:50.440 being pretty gay
00:53:51.200 right now.
00:53:51.460 I will always be gay
00:53:52.260 for you, Malcolm.
00:53:53.640 And nobody else.
00:53:55.960 God, I love you.
00:53:56.860 I really like our chats,
00:53:58.000 so thanks for this.
00:53:59.580 All right.
00:53:59.860 I'm coming down.
00:54:00.780 How do we keep it fresh?
00:54:02.040 Some people said
00:54:02.520 they don't like
00:54:02.900 our new stuff,
00:54:03.420 by the way.
00:54:05.520 They say we're becoming
00:54:06.360 too algorithm-driven
00:54:07.240 and like,
00:54:07.800 yeah,
00:54:08.220 but I'm winning
00:54:08.980 at the algorithm
00:54:09.540 right now,
00:54:10.140 so fuck off.
00:54:11.600 Well, yeah,
00:54:12.100 if they want to send
00:54:14.280 droves of people
00:54:15.080 to us.
00:54:16.420 Yeah.
00:54:18.500 We got 5,000 subscribers
00:54:20.240 in the last month alone.
00:54:21.640 Like, yeah,
00:54:22.160 I'm algorithm-driven now.
00:54:23.320 I figured it out.
00:54:24.360 Well, yeah,
00:54:24.860 maybe the opinion
00:54:25.640 of those 5,000 people
00:54:27.020 matters a little bit
00:54:28.020 more than the opinion
00:54:28.840 of that one complainer,
00:54:30.380 but also keep in mind,
00:54:31.680 like,
00:54:31.860 when it comes to user studies
00:54:33.000 of any change
00:54:33.740 of any product online,
00:54:34.940 for example,
00:54:36.700 any change
00:54:37.260 is seen antagonistically.
00:54:40.260 Would you like to know more
00:54:41.560 to a theme song intro?
00:54:43.660 But then they will always start
00:54:44.940 with would you like to know more
00:54:46.180 and move into the theme song,
00:54:47.360 right?
00:54:48.160 Maybe.
00:54:48.960 It should.
00:54:50.980 It should.
00:54:52.060 Okay.
00:54:53.120 I really need to get up.
00:54:54.740 I'm just...
00:54:56.120 Having a baby on your lap
00:54:57.280 is like having a cat
00:54:58.140 on your lap.
00:54:59.000 I don't think you...
00:54:59.940 Have you ever had a cat
00:55:01.080 on your lap in your life?
00:55:03.440 Were they...
00:55:03.940 Yeah.
00:55:04.620 I used to have a cat.
00:55:05.040 Where they fall asleep
00:55:05.860 and then you just...
00:55:07.300 You can't get up
00:55:08.140 because they're on your lap.
00:55:08.720 Oh, my cats weren't
00:55:09.380 like loving cats.
00:55:10.580 Oh.
00:55:11.580 They were...
00:55:12.580 Meow.
00:55:14.020 Murdery cats.
00:55:14.920 Murdery cats.
00:55:16.000 You sure you didn't
00:55:16.640 accidentally adopt
00:55:17.980 a possum or something?
00:55:19.200 So my mom
00:55:20.040 wanted to be
00:55:20.680 as posh as possible,
00:55:21.700 so she got something
00:55:22.260 called Bengal cats,
00:55:23.440 which are...
00:55:23.620 Oh, Bengal cats
00:55:24.540 are famously friendly.
00:55:26.540 No.
00:55:27.380 Ours were not
00:55:28.220 famously friendly.
00:55:29.560 They were...
00:55:29.980 They were little...
00:55:30.760 So they were like
00:55:31.400 a breed
00:55:32.500 where its bred
00:55:33.460 was like wild cats
00:55:34.920 of some kind.
00:55:36.360 I think some form
00:55:37.420 of a wild cat
00:55:38.660 from Africa.
00:55:39.360 I don't know.
00:55:39.560 Not like a panther
00:55:40.420 or something,
00:55:40.840 but something like that,
00:55:41.780 right?
00:55:41.980 Like a bobcat?
00:55:43.700 Something like
00:55:44.560 an African variety
00:55:45.640 of bobcat.
00:55:46.420 Yeah.
00:55:47.140 From Bengal.
00:55:47.840 Yeah.
00:55:48.220 It's...
00:55:48.840 And so they're
00:55:49.260 very hunting focused.
00:55:51.260 I remember one year
00:55:52.240 we got really punished
00:55:53.140 because all the
00:55:54.000 Christmas presents
00:55:54.720 were like torn in
00:55:56.660 too early
00:55:57.140 and it turned out
00:55:57.900 that it was our cats
00:55:58.660 and our parents
00:55:59.520 recognized us
00:56:00.220 after punishing us.
00:56:03.220 I mean,
00:56:03.840 considering your track record
00:56:04.960 then probably
00:56:05.620 every other thing
00:56:06.600 was your fault.
00:56:07.720 Like I could see...
00:56:08.300 Well, I was like
00:56:08.740 I would have been
00:56:09.460 more tactful about it.
00:56:10.640 I wouldn't have
00:56:11.020 ripped the packaging.
00:56:12.520 This is why
00:56:13.380 you had so many problems
00:56:14.660 as a kid.
00:56:15.320 Every time someone
00:56:16.020 blamed you for something
00:56:16.800 you're like,
00:56:17.240 well, if I really
00:56:17.840 wanted to do it
00:56:18.540 I would do this.
00:56:19.260 And then suddenly
00:56:19.780 you get expelled.
00:56:20.760 This genuinely
00:56:21.640 got me in trouble
00:56:22.180 so many times.
00:56:23.080 I'd get accused
00:56:23.760 of like doing X
00:56:25.240 and I'd be like,
00:56:25.800 no, if I was going
00:56:26.520 to do X
00:56:26.980 I'd do it this way.
00:56:28.180 It was always
00:56:29.200 so much more
00:56:29.900 like this
00:56:31.260 is one of the things
00:56:32.660 when I kicked out
00:56:33.400 of the first school
00:56:33.920 I got kicked out of.
00:56:35.260 They were like,
00:56:36.080 oh, we think
00:56:37.380 that you would do
00:56:38.560 like X
00:56:39.240 to harm other students.
00:56:41.180 And I was like
00:56:42.060 offended
00:56:42.940 because like Columbine
00:56:44.180 had just happened
00:56:44.800 and they were like
00:56:46.160 just looking
00:56:46.640 for any weird kid.
00:56:47.800 And I was like,
00:56:49.600 excuse me.
00:56:51.340 Excuse me, sir.
00:56:53.260 Here are ways
00:56:54.200 I could kill
00:56:54.820 everyone in this school
00:56:56.160 without anyone
00:56:57.860 being able to respond.
00:56:59.460 Those kids
00:57:00.260 were idiots.
00:57:01.300 You couldn't get
00:57:02.240 a damn bomb
00:57:03.460 to work?
00:57:04.260 A pipe bomb?
00:57:05.620 That's not difficult.
00:57:07.400 And I started
00:57:07.840 going through
00:57:08.460 like sketching
00:57:09.080 through how that
00:57:09.820 could work,
00:57:10.460 how you could
00:57:10.940 create gases
00:57:12.100 by mixing,
00:57:13.260 you know,
00:57:13.800 various cleaning
00:57:14.760 fluids
00:57:15.240 that could pretty
00:57:16.500 easily gas a room
00:57:17.720 before people noticed.
00:57:19.340 Very good point though.
00:57:20.580 Oh God, no.
00:57:21.640 Yeah, that's
00:57:22.200 yeah, I was like
00:57:22.960 how to do that.
00:57:23.760 But yeah,
00:57:24.020 that's very easy to do.
00:57:25.100 But you don't
00:57:25.920 insult my intelligence,
00:57:27.620 okay?
00:57:28.180 You don't say
00:57:29.260 that I'm some savage
00:57:30.540 who's just going to
00:57:31.440 go out there
00:57:32.360 shooting people.
00:57:33.540 This is what we have
00:57:34.360 to look forward to
00:57:35.000 with our children.
00:57:35.740 Our children are already
00:57:36.640 showing karma
00:57:37.480 with being such
00:57:38.180 picky eaters
00:57:38.760 and I was a famously
00:57:39.520 picky eater.
00:57:40.220 They're going to be
00:57:40.800 just as
00:57:41.660 anti-authoritarian
00:57:43.060 and difficult
00:57:43.600 in larger biographies
00:57:45.560 as you are.
00:57:46.620 I love you.
00:57:47.700 I love you too.
00:57:48.700 Bye Malcolm.
00:57:49.620 Have a good one.
00:57:52.780 Karate chop.
00:57:53.700 Oh no,
00:57:56.120 are you teaching
00:57:56.600 her karate moves?
00:57:57.960 Teaching her how
00:57:58.720 to be part
00:57:59.520 of our secret service.
00:58:01.600 So she,
00:58:02.020 yeah.
00:58:04.260 But she will make sure
00:58:06.220 that when someone
00:58:07.460 shoots at you,
00:58:08.640 they still shoot
00:58:09.480 and they just
00:58:10.060 tastefully nick you
00:58:11.520 right here.
00:58:12.600 You know,
00:58:12.760 you got to have that
00:58:13.460 I love it.
00:58:14.840 That perfect scar.
00:58:16.360 He got nicked
00:58:17.100 in the ear on the first one.
00:58:17.900 No, but he didn't know
00:58:18.840 everyone wants
00:58:19.720 like that
00:58:20.340 that face scar
00:58:21.740 that makes you
00:58:22.300 look badass.
00:58:22.820 Oh yeah, I want that too.
00:58:23.620 But it needs to be
00:58:24.380 in just the right place.
00:58:26.340 So the perfect
00:58:27.280 secret service person,
00:58:29.060 yes,
00:58:29.640 lets them shoot,
00:58:31.300 makes sure that they
00:58:32.200 shoot in exactly
00:58:33.060 the right angle
00:58:33.780 that gives you
00:58:34.280 the badass scar
00:58:35.240 and then gives you
00:58:36.280 enough time to do
00:58:37.180 what they did with Trump
00:58:37.980 where he did his little
00:58:38.820 like,
00:58:39.860 fight, fight, fight.
00:58:43.240 Yeah, they got to
00:58:43.920 let me up for the
00:58:44.500 fight, fight, fight.
00:58:45.620 Or while they're
00:58:47.040 holding me down,
00:58:47.700 they shoot me
00:58:48.280 just in case it misses.
00:58:49.920 Oh yeah, just
00:58:50.500 didn't, yeah, yeah.
00:58:52.820 You couldn't really tell.
00:58:54.380 There's all the crossfire,
00:58:55.880 you know,
00:58:56.240 people shooting back
00:58:57.220 at the attempting
00:58:58.160 assassin.
00:58:59.160 So who would know?
00:59:00.860 Who would know?
00:59:02.040 You know,
00:59:02.340 they could just argue
00:59:03.020 and then, yeah.
00:59:03.980 They're like,
00:59:04.560 oh, it's not a bullet wound.
00:59:05.580 It's shrapnel.
00:59:06.380 Well, yeah,
00:59:07.380 because that would,
00:59:08.380 it's, yeah,
00:59:08.720 shrapnel's so much
00:59:09.740 less badass.
00:59:10.700 Although it's way
00:59:11.460 more damaging
00:59:12.100 in many cases.
00:59:13.060 I mean,
00:59:13.280 I think most people
00:59:14.000 who have shrapnel wounds
00:59:15.060 wish that they were
00:59:16.180 shot with bullets.
00:59:16.800 Oh, it's like,
00:59:17.200 oh, the president
00:59:17.940 didn't,
00:59:18.820 he wasn't assassinated.
00:59:20.000 The shrapnel killed him.
00:59:21.320 Oh yeah,
00:59:21.820 well, yeah.
00:59:23.400 Shrapnel never hurt anyone.
00:59:25.160 I mean.
00:59:25.440 Oh my gosh.
00:59:26.420 Yeah.
00:59:27.360 What do they think it is?
00:59:28.360 Like,
00:59:28.680 like foam balls
00:59:29.720 being thrown at you?
00:59:31.160 Like.
00:59:31.240 Oh,
00:59:31.940 well,
00:59:32.260 come on.
00:59:32.900 Everyone even knows
00:59:33.680 that shrapnel's a big deal
00:59:34.840 because of Iron Man.
00:59:36.940 Still makes you look.
00:59:38.020 Oh yeah,
00:59:38.320 because it's hard,
00:59:39.080 right?
00:59:39.360 That was the whole point.
00:59:40.360 The whole point.
00:59:41.360 The shrapnel.
00:59:43.040 The shrapnel.
00:59:43.500 I want like a progressive
00:59:46.320 who's constantly
00:59:47.280 whenever Iron Man
00:59:48.160 is like,
00:59:48.540 well,
00:59:48.640 and I have this situation
00:59:49.740 with my heart
00:59:50.280 and they're like,
00:59:50.700 it's only shrapnel.
00:59:54.260 Oh boy.
00:59:55.220 Well,
00:59:55.460 I mean,
00:59:55.720 Kamala Harris
00:59:56.400 is so prepared
00:59:57.640 as a candidate.
00:59:58.980 You know,
00:59:59.120 everything is boxed.
01:00:00.160 Everything's written for her.
01:00:01.220 I hope that her team
01:00:02.360 has prepared her
01:00:03.240 with what she would do
01:00:04.720 to look badass
01:00:05.360 if someone attempted
01:00:06.500 to assassinate her.
01:00:08.060 I mean,
01:00:08.200 no doubt she has received
01:00:09.120 plenty of death threats
01:00:10.040 as well.
01:00:10.600 So hopefully she has her
01:00:12.400 rehearsal.
01:00:13.500 I feel like
01:00:15.460 I am the type of person
01:00:16.440 when running for president
01:00:17.380 that I'm going to get
01:00:18.200 a tasteful assassination attempt
01:00:20.480 for one of our supporters.
01:00:23.480 There you go,
01:00:25.080 sir.
01:00:25.680 Give me a good visible
01:00:28.020 nick here
01:00:28.840 or something like that
01:00:29.860 so I can,
01:00:30.580 you know.
01:00:31.180 This is how you get
01:00:32.200 your jaw shot off
01:00:33.180 by mistake,
01:00:33.880 Malcolm.
01:00:34.800 Don't.
01:00:35.840 Don't.
01:00:36.640 No,
01:00:36.860 no,
01:00:37.000 that's that.
01:00:38.160 Whatever,
01:00:38.780 whatever happens,
01:00:39.960 you know,
01:00:40.160 I'm going to look great
01:00:40.900 coming out of this.
01:00:41.640 You have no idea.
01:00:42.120 No,
01:00:42.360 for the record,
01:00:43.220 do not,
01:00:43.740 do not.
01:00:44.400 No,
01:00:44.920 no,
01:00:45.820 no.
01:00:47.500 And Malcolm,
01:00:48.520 no,
01:00:50.100 no.
01:00:50.900 We get enough
01:00:52.240 death threats already.
01:00:54.900 Yeah,
01:00:55.340 but they're all going to
01:00:56.080 hit you with a baseball bat.
01:00:57.500 That's the,
01:00:58.020 that's a go-to.
01:00:59.420 Oh,
01:00:59.620 that's what they say?
01:01:00.740 Well,
01:01:01.260 because progressives
01:01:02.380 don't own guns.
01:01:04.360 I mean,
01:01:04.620 the core thing
01:01:05.280 that obviously
01:01:05.800 they're going to try
01:01:06.300 to do is turn
01:01:06.820 our kids against us.
01:01:07.660 Like,
01:01:07.800 that's what they keep
01:01:08.420 saying.
01:01:09.380 That's the core fantasy.
01:01:10.960 Joke's on them.
01:01:11.760 They're already
01:01:12.320 turned against us.
01:01:13.500 They constantly rebel.
01:01:16.080 Yeah,
01:01:16.300 I don't think
01:01:17.220 they know
01:01:17.720 what they're getting
01:01:18.600 their hands on.
01:01:19.780 I know the moment
01:01:20.740 one of our kids,
01:01:21.520 they'll,
01:01:21.840 they'll be like,
01:01:22.400 okay,
01:01:23.020 we'll bring you in
01:01:23.900 and we'll turn you
01:01:24.420 against your parents
01:01:25.100 and then the kids
01:01:25.640 running the group
01:01:26.440 was in like a month
01:01:27.440 and doing some crazy
01:01:28.580 thing with it.
01:01:29.420 It would backfire.
01:01:30.640 The problem is
01:01:31.520 if,
01:01:32.040 if they tried
01:01:33.100 to get them
01:01:33.920 to do anything,
01:01:34.940 the kids would
01:01:35.680 subvert it somehow
01:01:36.620 because that's what
01:01:37.360 they do with any
01:01:38.340 attempt that we ever
01:01:39.180 make.
01:01:40.120 Yeah,
01:01:40.600 so the data
01:01:41.720 that we've,
01:01:42.320 we've,
01:01:42.680 we've worked on the
01:01:44.280 counter brainwashing
01:01:45.520 already,
01:01:45.920 guys.
01:01:46.300 You got,
01:01:46.600 you got nothing here.
01:01:47.360 Okay,
01:01:47.820 so I'll get started.
01:01:48.760 All right,
01:01:48.960 Simone?
01:01:49.840 Let's do it.
01:01:50.540 I love her idly
01:01:51.300 playing with your thing,
01:01:52.440 looking at your face.
01:01:54.160 She's figuring out stuff.
01:01:55.980 She is.
01:01:56.640 She's coming online.
01:01:57.680 Right.