In this episode, host Angela Vellian and co-host Emily Edwards discuss the impact of the Vice Presidential Debates. They discuss why Biden's performance was so bad that even Republicans weren't happy with it, and why we need a new VP candidate.
00:09:59.540And that's why when he came in to execute, he had absolutely nothing to work with.
00:10:04.040And they didn't know what to do because that's who he was surrounded by.
00:10:07.040Now you're totally right that the mix is different.
00:10:09.540It's people who actually execute, people who actually lead.
00:10:12.540I think it's interesting that it took him two cycles to find this crowd.
00:10:15.540I think by the time he was running in the next election cycle, he still wasn't really surrounded by, I guess I called them like elite intellectuals yet.
00:10:25.540He was still more surrounded by, I guess, like the cult of Trump.
00:10:30.540And he did have personality cult at the time.
00:10:33.540And the second time through, I think his perspective was, is the reason things didn't get done the first time is because the people in his administration weren't loyal enough.
00:10:43.540And they weren't loyal enough to his ideas or his vision.
00:10:48.040I can understand why he would have thought that given the betrayals that did happen.
00:10:51.540And of course, they are going to happen if you're selecting for this media bombast community.
00:10:55.540But then when you're optimizing on loyalty, what you find is loyalty is not a good sign of competence or ability to execute or ability to understand what Americans want.
00:11:05.540But in this cycle, he seems much more surrounded by competent individuals, particularly techie competent individuals.
00:11:13.540And I see a lot more of his original New York liberal side coming through in how he's debating and acting.
00:11:22.540Because the other big difference between this election cycle and the last election cycle is the last election cycle, he was still to an extent trying to prove he was a real Republican.
00:11:33.540Because that was, and I think a lot of people forget this, when Trump first was running, everyone was like, bro, this guy's a progressive.
00:11:39.540He's been a New York progressive his entire life.
00:11:42.540Yeah, so just kind of overcorrecting, you think, for that?
00:11:45.540Yeah, I do think that he had genuinely become something like a conservative.
00:11:50.540But he certainly wasn't what the conservative party was before him or used to be.
00:11:57.540And so I think he went overboard with some of his conservative positions.
00:12:01.540And it led to huge miscalculations on his part about how to appeal to Americans.
00:12:08.540Even in the general last time, I think he was going too far to the right to try to prove to conservatives that he was a conservative.
00:12:16.540I think the Trump we're seeing in this election cycle is somebody who is absolutely confident in who he is and that he has the party's backing no matter what.
00:12:27.540And anyone who's out there saying, Trump, you need to move to the right.
00:12:31.540Trump, you're not conservative enough.
00:12:50.540He's talking about the various exceptions, rape, incest and risk of life.
00:12:54.540Yeah, which is what he's going for, which is the actually the normal position among the conservative base.
00:12:59.540But if you are, for example, applying to be a member of Trump's White House on the Heritage Foundation's form, one of the checklists is, do you believe life begins at conception?
00:13:10.540So the people who are, unfortunately, putting together parts of his administration right now are like pretty far right of the policy he actually wants to implement.
00:13:30.540Yeah, it's going to be interesting, but I expect him to be more publicly pro gay this election cycle, like he was a little bit in the first election cycle.
00:13:39.540And at the same time, anti sort of the parts of the trans community that have become very extremist, because it's such an easy win issue for conservatives, like the trans people in sports stuff and stuff like that.
00:13:52.540It's a point that like doesn't really matter society wide, but it is so easy to win because for whatever reason, Democrats won't back down from it, even though like everyone can see that these people have an advantage.
00:14:02.540So now I want to talk about the point you're making about who actually determines how a person acts is the people who are around him.
00:14:08.540I will say I am a little a concern that the Heritage Foundation is doing the staffing, given the the ways that they were filtering people on the staffing application.
00:14:18.540That was like, these are not Trump's views. Why are you filtering based on these views? Oh, it's because they're your views.
00:14:25.540That said, the Heritage Foundation is still mainstream conservative intelligence. Right.
00:14:31.540Right. And they were people who historically would not have engaged to that much with Trump in things like the first election cycle.
00:14:38.540But there's negatives to that because there is this capture of this old guard that does seem to have a little too much influence over Trump now.
00:14:45.540And I hope that he can move to the techie side a bit more. Yeah, I think his VP will show who he's really citing was.
00:14:51.540Either way, it's still we're going to vote for him now with Biden.
00:14:54.540I think almost like intentionally, we don't know who's really operating everything.
00:14:58.540And I think you're right. It is progressive extremists who are running everything in the Biden administration right now.
00:15:04.540Now, fortunately, progressive extremists are also extremist bureaucrats.
00:15:08.540And so they are very bad at getting things done.
00:15:11.540But that doesn't mean that they can't cause damage.
00:15:14.540Oh, I think we've seen what happens. We've seen the damage.
00:15:21.540But I also think it's it's also just like a bizarre phenomenon to be an American right now.
00:15:26.540Like when I talk about this, it feels, oh, like now we all know that the president isn't mentally functioning like it's out on the table.
00:15:34.540It's almost like one of those countries where after Lennon died, they put him in like a glass box and they're like, oh, he technically still rules the country.
00:15:40.540That's what I felt like I was seeing there is somebody rolling out a corpse and then being like a marionetting a corpse, basically.
00:15:47.540And I'm like, OK, who's holding the marionette strings? Because that's what we need to be talking about right now.
00:15:52.540And I don't think that this is something that like we are actively like the immediate takeaway from this shouldn't be, oh, my God, the impact on the election cycle.
00:16:01.540It should be, oh, my God, who's running the country. Right.
00:16:28.540I always think of it as maximum lot, but it's not the election betting odds dot com.
00:16:32.540They have right now Trump at a fifty eight point three percent chance of winning the election and Biden at a twenty two point seven percent chance.
00:17:55.540Everyone honestly didn't know how to salvage the situation.
00:17:59.540And then the following day today when we're recording this, although it's going to come out a little bit later, there are endless editorials.
00:18:07.540Biden, we love you, but you've got to step down.
00:18:11.540It seems like the liberal media as well is trying to come together and present a united front of this cannot happen.
00:18:20.540And we're several weeks away from the point at which we do have to actually select the what is it called?
00:18:29.540The convention, the Democratic National Convention.
00:18:31.540So I think we have plenty of time just in the background, figure out who it is they're going to select and select them. That's it.
00:18:38.540So historically, Democrats were able to do stuff like this.
00:18:41.540You had a group of high power individuals and this happened in one election cycle, for example.
00:18:45.540But yeah, the Democrats switched out who their candidate was last minute and not based on like popular vote or anything like that.
00:19:24.540And that was even in an open election.
00:19:26.540That wasn't like they appointed Hillary without asking for the public's consent or what the Democratic public wanted.
00:19:34.540They were just like, OK, now you go. Right.
00:19:37.540If they just install somebody, it's going to look like a betrayal of the base.
00:19:44.540And the base is going to get very angry about this in this authoritarian, because this is the worst of the image from the perspective of the base, which is we have no control.
00:20:12.540But yeah, from like a vice president is technically the backup, but not palatable to people.
00:20:19.540Not palatable, but a uniquely unpalatable because she is unlikable for the same ways that Hillary Clinton was unlikable, but more.
00:20:28.540And this appointment would be even more ham fisted than the Hillary appointment.
00:20:32.540So when people don't understand what I'm saying here, both Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton are an iteration of progressive.
00:20:41.540That is incredibly fascistic sort of in the way that they think about things.
00:20:46.540I.e., yes, they believe the urban monoculture should control things, but they believe that the urban monoculture should control things using a really strong police force, using basically troopers, using their power of government.
00:21:03.540And the people making all these decisions on behalf of the citizenry should be like an elite bureaucracy, i.e., the people who are at the top of what Trump calls the deep state right now.
00:21:14.540And it's easy to see how they gain these positions.
00:21:16.540These are people who their entire lives have been surrounded by that community, at least for the last 20 or 30 years.
00:21:22.540They don't really know the general public anymore or are able to conceive of them as like thinking people.
00:21:28.540And the problem is that the democratic base isn't like that.
00:21:31.540The democratic base is much more like Marxist, but not Marxist from a, like the way Marxism actually ends up implementing itself often, which is more fascistic.
00:21:43.540But really, everyone should have total control over their lives.
00:23:51.540Because I don't think that represents the base.
00:23:53.540But I do see at least Trump hasn't been ideologically captured by this group.
00:23:57.540He still seems to be doing his own thing.
00:24:00.540And even more so than he did historically.
00:24:03.540I think that through that, it's gonna be hard to compete against a Trump that is actually honest about Trump views.
00:24:10.540And not just that, at least, for example, a lot of the people that we know and work with, who have startups, who have businesses, who care about science and tech and advancement, are actually genuinely excited about Trump because of the appointments he has lined up.
00:24:25.540That just from a policy and governance perspective, Trump winning would be really exciting.
00:24:47.540This could be a watershed moment for Democrats who haven't yet been fully aware of this yet, and even for some Republicans, of just how much the Democrat establishment and the media has been willing to lie about the President of the United States and his present mental state and fitness.
00:25:12.540And that it was plausibly easy to shrunk off his various gaffes and the moments when he would freeze and everything else as an exaggeration or fake or as the now is trying to be spun by the President's administration.
00:25:33.540I think he's calling them, they're calling them cheap fakes.
00:25:36.540I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
00:25:37.540I guess it's just their way of trying to make it sound like it's not real, but it's real.
00:25:43.540This was, now, after being told again and again by these groups, Biden is fine, Biden is sharp, he's firing on all cylinders, now they're seeing for themselves over the period of this debate, this guy cannot hold a cohesive thought for a long period of time.
00:25:59.540He's not able to memorize and spit that facts.
00:26:01.540He sounds, just even when he had good singers that he was getting in, he sounded very old and feeble.
00:26:07.540And keep in mind that voters vote for people who look powerful and presidential.
00:26:12.540That this is not even about what people are saying verbally and how strong and logically consistent their arguments are or even how grammatically correct their sentences may be.
00:26:22.540It is about how electable and presidential they look and seem.
00:26:30.540I think more than that, I was also talking about Trump's more moderated energy in this debate.
00:26:36.540Part of it might actually be that this is what Trump looks like when he's becoming enfeebled, is he just doesn't have the energy to be old Trump anymore.
00:26:54.540And I would say that something that I think a lot of people are going to come away from this thinking, because, you know, I watched like the Jon Stewart coverage on this and he's like, Trump is just lying about all of these things.
00:27:06.540And he didn't point out, which every sane American is thinking, yeah, but like the entire media establishment and Biden's entire team apparently has been lying to us about his missile state.
00:27:18.540What do you mean Trump, even if Trump is lying, which, yeah.
00:28:20.540But what I think a lot of people didn't know is that the entire presidential administration was capable of systemically lying to them about something that every one of them knew.
00:28:28.540And most of the media elites probably knew as well.
00:28:41.540Top of ticket is mostly going to determine if she wins.
00:28:44.540She's convinced she has no shot right now.
00:28:46.540That's because the district in which I'm running is, it is, has more registered Democrats than Republicans.
00:28:51.540And in past elections, the unaffiliated independent and libertarian voters have voted Democrat.
00:28:57.540Plus now they have an imperative to vote Democrat because of Roe versus Wade being reversed, meaning that states have to decide whether or not there's reproductive choice.
00:29:06.540So most of these groups, because most Americans support reproductive choice, if they're willing to make votes based on that, they have to vote Democrat.
00:29:15.540Even most Republicans do, which I think a lot of people do.
00:29:18.540And that's, yeah, that's, and that is actually why, and I've seen this door knocking and talking with people in our district.
00:29:23.540That is why many Republicans are now voting Democrat.
00:29:45.540And then of course, abortions pass that in the case of these extreme situations.
00:29:48.540For example, the mother is at risk or even personally for me, not to shoot myself in the foot by being clear about this.
00:29:54.540But if, if you have to choose between terminating a pregnancy as early as you learn that any baby that is born is going to suffer and die horribly.