Based Camp - The Bible： Marry A Tomboy (Real “Trad” = Tomboy)

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be exploring what

00:00:05.440 the Bible says you should look for in a wife. And surprise, surprise, the Bible being a great

00:00:14.680 and wise book, the wisest of books, says that you should look for a tomboy. Not a woman who 1.00

00:00:21.420 dresses like a guy, but otherwise, most of the traits we today would associate with is a tomboy.

00:00:27.500 And I appreciate that the writers of the Bible were men of culture.

00:00:32.240 Oh my gosh. Okay, great.

00:00:34.700 And this has been hidden a lot from modern readings of the Bible

00:00:39.140 because the word that makes it especially clear

00:00:43.000 has essentially, it was really well translated for most of the Bible's history

00:00:48.760 until we got to pretty modern translations.

00:00:53.960 Okay, like how modern?

00:00:55.440 Like many of the English translations, for example.

00:00:58.600 Okay, so like Elizabethan, like King James,

00:01:00.860 they start messing with it.

00:01:02.020 Okay.

00:01:02.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:03.300 And they started translating a word

00:01:05.580 into virtuous very frequently.

00:01:10.200 But the word is not virtuous.

00:01:12.240 And it's a word that is commonly

00:01:13.480 when it's talking about like what a good woman is

00:01:15.220 in the Old Testament.

00:01:17.380 And can you guess what this word

00:01:19.640 is most commonly used to describe?

00:01:22.580 Like it's common, normal usage.

00:01:24.780 rugged uh it's used to describe the power of an army um like it is a very aggressive word it is a

00:01:35.640 word that we will we will get into um because when you when you understand that and we'll go through

00:01:42.720 it in context we'll go through when it's used to describe the strengths of an army you will see

00:01:47.720 that what it expects of women and then we're going to go through more of what the new testament says

00:01:51.140 about women and longer bits of the old testament and the bible is not shy about this tomboy

00:01:56.820 aesthetic and you will realize simone that you are closer than you would imagine to the true

00:02:03.740 trad wife if you define a trad wife by a biblical wife you really keep trying to make me into a

00:02:09.160 trad wife the true trad wife is the tomboy trad wife you slept in my childhood bedroom for like

00:02:16.360 three months when you were out on the she painted it all pink yeah it was still very very it was

00:02:22.880 very pink like all of your knives you know yes knife collection it was so girly not tomboy

00:02:29.480 obviously she showed it to me on the first date i went to her house she's like look at all my

00:02:34.740 knives they're super cute i should display them around here like a knife wall that would be super

00:02:41.960 cute i they're just right up there in the attic they're like 30 feet from me right now let's do

00:02:46.480 it okay on brand for our culture yeah so there's four instances in which this happens uh the use

00:02:53.780 of this word we've got ruth 3 11 we've got proverbs 12 4 we've got proverbs 31 10 which is the opening

00:03:00.800 of the famous poem that we're going to get read through the whole thing which does a is very

00:03:04.860 explicit on this it's a a mom uh telling her son what he should look for in a wife and bemoaning

00:03:13.260 how hard it is to find these tomboys um where where can i find these women um so the word so

00:03:19.040 nothing has changed because this is what i hear from the young eligible gentleman of base camp

00:03:24.200 yes uh the child um uh obviously i'm pronouncing it wrong uh is a masculine noun whose core

00:03:31.640 meanings are strengths, efficiency, ability, valor, wealth, and or it's often just directly

00:03:40.140 translated as army or host. I mean, that sounds good in any partner. Yes. That seems solid. I

00:03:47.900 would encourage our sons to get that for sure. Strengths, efficiency, and ability. I'm like,

00:03:53.860 yeah, go for that. And a man too. Yeah. I mean, any spouse, you would probably want those things.

00:03:59.100 no one wants an inefficient spouse and it there there are lines that basically say you should not

00:04:05.120 focus on a woman with lots of jewelry you shouldn't focus on a woman which i also think

00:04:10.560 is a great advice isn't that a representation of wealth however over gussies herself up you

00:04:14.980 shouldn't focus on yes so we're going to learn because that's inefficient and that is actually

00:04:19.360 if anything a sign of weakness it is it is used and it's good advice like one thing i'm going to

00:04:23.600 say that i like about this is i actually think if i was going to build like a guide for my own kids

00:04:30.900 on what to look for in a wife it's going to look a lot like what the bible says okay

00:04:34.820 now note this word is used extensively for military forces for mighty men of valor 0.90

00:04:40.500 geberashi shale or something uh when the subject of the woman english bible often softened it to

00:04:46.920 virtuous excellent or noble character okay um where if you look in the jewish tradition it's

00:04:54.240 often translated as a woman of valor or woman of strengths which i still think undersells it

00:04:59.100 all right um now to understand how this word is normally used if you look at something like

00:05:05.460 exodus 14 9 or 14 28 or 15 4 pharaoh's or shut this word army is is what it's described as the

00:05:14.860 oh so that you see the same word explicitly used to describe an army yeah um in judges 6 12 the

00:05:23.440 angel calls gideon a man of mighty valor and that's the same word there um in judges jeff jeffeson

00:05:30.340 uh is introduced as a mighty man of valor and you see this samuel's uh 9 1 you see this kings 5 1

00:05:39.780 it's a common um okay so and you'll see how when you look at these translations if you look at a

00:05:48.020 common english translation it'll say something like thou art a virtuous woman where if you

00:05:52.700 translated it more directly you would say you are a strong woman um or a modern english translation

00:05:58.440 will say a virtuous woman is a crown to her husband whereas a more direct translation would

00:06:03.200 say a courageous wife is a crown to her husband or you will see a virtuous who shall find a virtuous

00:06:10.720 woman and then a better translation is probably who can find a courageous wife uh or we'll say

00:06:16.820 obtain wealth wrought valiantly and then it might otherwise be translated as obtained wealth many

00:06:22.720 did mighty things uh so if you were asking when did it get fully translated if you go to the

00:06:29.840 septuagint which uses greek it was translated as a woman of power and strength um courageous or uh

00:06:37.120 a manly slash a brave wife um a manly wife adera that's pretty tomboy coded yeah so this comes

00:06:46.340 from adera relating to aner or man meaning fortitude so like the early translators knew

00:06:52.540 like you know when the they were originally writing the new testament they would have known

00:06:56.920 that this meant a manly wife like how you want a tough woman here so i double checked this just to

00:07:02.600 make sure i wasn't making any mistakes and yet the uh septuagint was translated in the third to

00:07:08.840 second century bc and it renders the hebrew as the word andrea which means man the root manliness

00:07:19.000 but in ancient greek and in hellenistic periods it was also used to mean courage of fortitude

00:07:24.120 bravery as a result of the strengths of character uh in the armeniac terrorism it's something like

00:07:31.940 a skilled woman in the latin vulgate even going into the latin vulgate uh it continues with the

00:07:37.660 term strong woman um or rus as miliarum virtuous and then in uh proverbs uh in later english

00:07:45.480 translations especially the king james version it was translated to virtuous all right so i will now

00:07:53.500 read you the proverbs 31 where the mom of a king is telling her son what to look like what to look

00:08:02.660 for in a wife okay so she says a wife and then of this word character who can find she is worth

00:08:13.080 far more than rubies so no no going into it right here it's this it's this doting jewish mom like 1.00

00:08:19.840 God, if I could just find you a tomboy wife, that'd be worse more than all the rubies. 1.00

00:08:25.620 Which is true. 0.99

00:08:26.920 Good advice. 1.00

00:08:28.020 Worse more than rubies. 1.00

00:08:29.600 Yeah.

00:08:30.580 Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value.

00:08:35.240 Again, this is when you say that your wife is subordinate to you, when you lack confidence

00:08:43.460 in her or if you choose a woman who you expect to not have confidence in, you have failed. 0.82

00:08:48.620 That is step number one in choosing a wife.

00:08:52.020 Have confidence in this person. 0.69

00:08:53.800 I think that's actually really good.

00:08:55.060 It's not the advice that I would give off the top of my head,

00:08:57.240 but when I think about it, yes, someone who you can have confidence in

00:09:01.520 is probably the first thing you want to check off on your wife search. 0.91

00:09:04.720 Well, especially if they're subordinate to you, 1.00

00:09:06.720 because if they're subordinate to you, you are delegating them tasks,

00:09:10.540 and you can't delegate things to someone in whom you do not have confidence.

00:09:15.100 And what's cool about doing episodes like this,

00:09:18.180 as I think they can be useful even to our atheist followers or followers of other religious

00:09:22.560 traditions, simply because the Bible gives such good advice. We can talk through life advice,

00:09:28.480 like what to look for in a wife by just reading and analyzing what's in the Bible.

00:09:33.760 Yeah. It's like Nux says, he's like, well, I mean, like it's been around for

00:09:37.500 thousands of years. So maybe there's something to it.

00:09:43.180 Yes. Well, other people would be like, well, that means it's old and outdated. And I'm like,

00:09:46.980 Well, it's remarkably not, which I find quite fun.

00:09:50.780 And I think actually the areas where our society is failing most right now are areas where people have reinterpreted the parts of the Bible, like the kill them all parts, that they felt were outdated or just the way war was fought during that period.

00:10:08.680 And I always point out that God actively chose to punish Saul for not killing them all and tell Saul that's why he's punishing him.

00:10:15.400 you could make up all of the other reasons you could say well Saul was bad in these other ways

00:10:18.680 that's not why God said he's punishing him he says it's because you didn't kill them all

00:10:22.200 like God clearly meant it right um you know God had somebody stoned to death for not doing the

00:10:31.040 right like I guess he was just mistaken back then um you know so I I think uh where we're

00:10:39.980 loosening restrictions uh to try to more modernize and a lot of Christians do this they go is this

00:10:45.260 buddy christ version of christianity where the bible's all you know sunshine and roses um and i

00:10:49.780 think that has made our society very susceptible to groups that want to exploit us and fortunately

00:10:57.600 i feel that we are getting back a a real christianity uh in this generation and i see it

00:11:03.820 from other online speakers and stuff like this this is a a christianity that can fight a crusade

00:11:09.580 or do witch hunts or you know all the fun stuff we used to do um no back back to the text here

00:11:16.680 and then obviously not the bad witch hunts but they're you know i think i think we've we've

00:11:22.120 created a problem where we have like active hordes of swamp hags now see our swamp hag episode

00:11:27.540 actually i should add that to the religious tracks to continue here she brings him good 1.00

00:11:35.300 not harm all the days of her life she selects wool and flax and works with eager hands 1.00

00:11:41.520 she is like the merchant ships bringing her food from afar sorry

00:11:46.080 she gets up while it is still night she provides for her family and persons for her

00:11:54.740 female servants by the way does any of this not describe you so far simone i don't have

00:12:00.080 female servants i don't want to be around people yes you do you literally have a bunch of employees

00:12:06.100 at a company that is mostly female that you oh yeah they don't serve me they give me problems 1.00

00:12:12.120 but yes i guess we we work with that's the way servants always were for for women 0.94

00:12:16.860 come on you you don't read enough historic romance simone to okay great yeah i guess yeah 1.00

00:12:24.400 you know how it is to be a villainous girl boss continue here she considers a female and buys it 1.00

00:12:31.200 out of earnings she plants in a vineyard so what's she doing here this is something that goes is she 1.00

00:12:37.840 buying a slave she no she considers a field and buys it i thought you said she considers a female 0.98

00:12:44.260 and buys it oh my god okay but she's buying she's buying property that is meant to be worked and 1.00

00:12:51.300 provide income for the family yeah this is this is a corporate family girl boss is what it is yeah 0.98

00:12:57.220 the idea that a woman should not work is very directly contradicted here now what you could 0.99

00:13:03.980 say is you might be able to lower it to like she should be a corporate wife but most sorry for

00:13:10.780 people who do not know what a corporate family is that's where the husband and wife work together 0.97

00:13:14.740 on a joint family project like our fab for us we both code for our fab we both code for mud puppy

00:13:20.860 we both code for all of our sites we both do promotion for it we both do promotion on this

00:13:25.540 i might be the leading voice in it i might be the male or the the the dominant voice in these

00:13:31.960 things and i might technically be like the manager of it but simone is still actively working on it

00:13:37.080 and i think that really keeps both the biblical the wife working at home because you can buy 0.92

00:13:43.620 fields while working at home right like that's a work from home kind of a thing and so when so

00:13:49.400 often people look at these trad wives and they go they're earning money that's not what a 1.00

00:13:56.440 traditional woman should do you know with their content for example um well that's not what the 1.00

00:14:03.380 old testament says well and also people well that's because people think that what trad wife

00:14:09.280 means is a woman who only does homemaking which never was the case never never never like a woman 0.99

00:14:19.040 never just cleaned the house took care of the kids educated the kids and cooked she also managed 1.00

00:14:26.640 the family's agricultural businesses did bookkeeping for her husband like did all the others all the 1.00

00:14:31.040 other stuff i mean like you did some other episode like basically women just do the majority of the 0.79

00:14:35.440 work and the husband's high risk high reward like basically venture capital work of the family

00:14:40.460 the sword and shield relationship that was such a good episode i gotta add that to the

00:14:45.440 really so you should you should because this that is what seems to be described here and at first

00:14:52.720 i was like i don't know this just sounds like i don't know get a good wife what are they they're

00:14:58.220 good at stuff but they aren't describing beauty they aren't describing modesty like beauty my

00:15:03.900 picture of a biblical wife was modest veiled like kind of um you know nurturing uh doesn't talk

00:15:13.160 ever you know all of that is an act and it's it's an act that i think often um uh is is indicative 0.96

00:15:22.020 of a woman who is um going to be a pain in the butt to be married to to be frank um because 0.93

00:15:28.900 for women who prefer uh seeing themselves as like this ideal trad woman um they then make 0.91

00:15:36.920 your relationship about seeing themselves that way honoring themselves in that way rather than

00:15:42.300 being a productive and useful partner. And note here, we haven't gotten to anything about that

00:15:48.000 sort of stuff yet. We're all on like, how useful is she to you? Is she buying the right stuff for

00:15:54.260 the family? Is she going out and getting supplies? Is she a good investor? Is she good at work? 0.50

00:16:00.680 Right. And note here, because two things are implied by this. She considers the field and

00:16:05.160 buys it. And out of earnings, she plants a vineyard. And out of her earnings, she plants a vineyard. 0.96

00:16:09.940 um she's earning from this field okay uh it's saying that she's not just like taking a job

00:16:19.340 and making money but she's taking a job making money and then reinvesting that money into things

00:16:25.900 that make more money yeah you're right yeah buying fields then like the purpose of the field is both

00:16:31.640 probably to sustain the family but also make more money so the family has more optionality with

00:16:36.120 other projects. And I will note here, males and females each have their own role within a family.

00:16:42.100 I think there is a high degree of gender dichotomy. I am not saying that a woman should

00:16:45.480 take on a man's role, but I am saying that the role- But the Bible is saying a lot more about

00:16:50.200 a woman's role and range of work than I think what many traditional Christian couples would want

00:16:56.660 to believe. Right, but the point I was going to make is that I wouldn't even say a lot of

00:17:02.460 traditional christians i i think most traditional christians actually grok this stuff okay performative

00:17:08.560 the ones that i see talking online don't seem to yeah yeah um but the uh uh the the point i was

00:17:17.420 going to make is that historically if we're asking what are the roles of a woman one of the roles of

00:17:24.260 a woman historically speaking was often managing investments and the family finances this is true

00:17:31.380 across cultures. It was so true that there was a major like stock market phenomenon called in 0.99

00:17:37.580 Japan by all of the housewives investing on the stock market. Yeah. It's what we do in our family. 0.83

00:17:43.680 In our family, Simone controls all the money. She controls all the investments. She is, she doesn't 1.00

00:17:49.460 have, I have final say on investments, but fundamentally she controls and advises the

00:17:53.360 investments. Right now we're doing a strategy of investment that is based on her investment

00:17:57.500 hypothesis um predominantly and this is because i think of the things that women are good at 1.00

00:18:04.720 one of them surprisingly is investments um and which is weird because all like the investment

00:18:13.000 people online are dudes pretty much well now this might be my experience with you and maybe it's

00:18:20.540 unique, but I think one of the reasons why women, in my experience, are better investors than men

00:18:28.460 for the average family. Now, if you're talking about the very best of the best, it's always

00:18:32.120 going to be men because men are on the outer edge of the curve, right? But I'm talking on average.

00:18:36.680 Like with anything, pretty much, aside from having babies.

00:18:40.520 Women grow less anxious, from what I have seen, than men when number goes down and they get less

00:18:49.080 greedy when number goes up for sure um and uh when you know bitcoin is is down i'm always uh

00:18:55.980 oh we should sell it you know we can't we can't lose more money you know like it could just be

00:19:00.360 like flash sale women love a sale somehow girl math sometimes turns out for investments who knew

00:19:07.960 uh or so i think women are very very good at that and i think that it's good that the bible

00:19:14.000 is pointing this out and then it says she sees her trading is profitable and her lamp does not

00:19:20.580 go out at night um so what what is what is being said here she's profitable and i want a girl who

00:19:27.900 gets up early i want a girl who stays up late i want a girl with uninterrupted prosperity who

00:19:34.060 uses a machete to cut through red tape ah it's biblical that's the biblical wife yes it's him

00:19:42.580 it's a hymn short skirt I heard that song and I was like I want a wife like this and apparently 0.54

00:19:47.080 I heard that song and I was like I want to be that woman yeah that's that's a bible wife right

00:19:51.960 and I know that what is meant here and her lamp does not go out at night this isn't saying

00:19:58.040 this isn't like some random poetry or something during that time period your lamp not going out

00:20:03.960 at night meant you were working after it was dark yeah okay so it's already said that she wakes up

00:20:09.700 early okay yeah and she goes to sleep late all right this mom is maybe not the stepmom you want

00:20:16.720 you know like hey are you working non-stop and making my son money you can tell oh not stepmom 0.60

00:20:25.580 mother-in-law oh yeah mother-in-law yeah yeah you can tell this was a jewish mother-in-law right

00:20:30.140 coming over being like are you making that money for my son yeah oh boy he's gonna say this is

00:20:40.080 coming from the jewish part of the bible so they got some uh you know they got some some good stuff

00:20:43.380 here um in her hand she holds the distaff and grasps the spindle with her fingers so note here

00:20:52.520 this is saying that she is producing clothing what was a distaff yeah i don't know either

00:20:58.440 a traditional hand spinning tool used to hold unspun fibers such as flax wool or cotton yeah

00:21:06.380 they didn't mention flax and wool right yeah so saying that she's making both the stuff that you 0.96

00:21:13.000 use to make clothes and the clothes itself which is you know again if you're like women don't have 1.00

00:21:17.660 jobs or whatever shouldn't have jobs like that's a job that's a job like you can make stuff just 0.88

00:21:22.540 for your family true but in this period what was normal in the corporate family is you would make

00:21:26.820 extra and sell it right like that was uh the way a lot of families operate that was in a way a lot

00:21:32.900 that was the way the normal family would have operated in the role of a normal woman or wife 0.98

00:21:38.000 until very recently in a family yeah she opens her arms to the poor and extends her hands to 1.00

00:21:46.040 the needy and i think that this is a very feminine thing that is good to have in a woman but it is 0.78

00:21:53.420 something that you as a husband will need to fight because i can tell you simone is too far 1.00

00:21:57.780 on this spectrum here also simone you literally repair our kids teddy bears with a needle and 0.65

00:22:05.480 thread you repair our clothing our blankets with a needle not very well i'm just saying so far

00:22:12.080 this is a hundred percent oh god more valuable than rubies simone more valuable than rubies

00:22:18.140 you are rubies aren't worth very much now that they can be lab grown so okay but yeah yeah ruby's

00:22:24.760 not going to lactate a ruby's not going to bring you a child so that's true when it snows she has

00:22:32.280 no fear for her household for all of them are closed in scarlet so this is saying they're all

00:22:36.320 they all have plenty to wear in the winter which you make sure of as well you get very worried

00:22:41.640 about cold children it's a mother thing look you see in a christmas story how the mother

00:22:47.420 dresses up her child so much that he can't put his arms down because it's a mother you're like

00:22:52.080 you can't there's this visceral pain that a mother feels upon all the way back to the

00:22:57.280 Jews of old yes they they they too had these pains yes and they survived okay their children

00:23:04.820 were okay because they didn't freeze in the winter better to be warm than not then she makes

00:23:10.700 coverings for her bed she is closed in fine linen and purple so um not red and purple

00:23:17.780 fancy yes it's very nice uh but uh the the coverings of her bed note here it doesn't say

00:23:25.220 that she makes anyone else's bed it says yeah but they all kind of slept together didn't they

00:23:30.540 kind of snuggle up uh i mean it was for a king so probably not oh well and jewish kings often

00:23:38.700 had lots of wives so you know yeah i guess they can't all fit in one bed like that famous 0.95

00:23:44.020 in bed in england that like everyone wanted to sleep in it fit like people god the animals in

00:23:52.860 that okay then it continues her husband is respected at the city gate where he takes a

00:23:57.480 seat among the elders of the land so note the jews had this court that they would hold at the city

00:24:03.160 gate to do like legal stuff it's talking about this court it's basically saying that the husband

00:24:08.920 is active in civil matters and the wife is um allowing him to be active in civil matters

00:24:17.600 from the income that she's bringing in and oh she subsidizes his public service yeah

00:24:24.800 okay she makes linen garments and sells them note here it's explicitly saying and sells them

00:24:32.100 she's doing work okay and supplies the merchants with sashes uh so she's making garments merchants

00:24:39.860 need their sashes god forbid they go out without a sash on what is also fascinating about this is

00:24:46.320 this is the mother of a future king giving her son the future king advice and i think that this

00:24:54.160 is really important because it's clear that this woman will not need money she's going to be the

00:24:59.540 the king of the jews the queen of the jews okay even not needing money she is still not just 0.91

00:25:07.220 investing like the type of money that can make manifold money and that was listed earlier is

00:25:11.520 even more important but she is sewing and selling the things she sells to local merchants this is a 1.00

00:25:19.140 woman who has above all else a productive asset to the household busy busy again when you say to 1.00

00:25:27.440 somebody you are not a child wife because you're making money um that is wrong that is not that is

00:25:34.840 non-biblical okay she is closed with strengths and dignity she can laugh at the days to come

00:25:42.420 she speaks with wisdom and faithful instruction on her tongue now no here we have still not gotten

00:25:49.520 to anything about acting uh weak or acting you know overtly or performatively humble

00:25:56.580 submissive pretty we haven't gotten to any of that yet anything about prettiness that is not

00:26:01.780 an issue here is apparently jewish moms um but uh the the note also the idea that your wife can be

00:26:12.040 submissive to you and still speak with wisdom with faithful instruction on her tongue like that

00:26:17.260 instruction is clearly meant for the husband right it's is this a woman who is going to give

00:26:22.120 you good instruction and men who think that a woman or their wife should never advise them or 0.82

00:26:28.000 give them instructions are non-biblical men um a woman should not teach a church that does not mean

00:26:36.820 that she should not instruct her husband in morality also uh i do like the uh line she is

00:26:44.120 closed in strengths and dignity strengths and dignity it talks about before these other things

00:26:47.940 and she can laugh at the days to come basically mean like when when life is hard when you need

00:26:55.800 strength and dignity she doesn't allow herself to become emotional but we have also she can find

00:27:01.760 the humor in things and one of my favorite things about life is that we laugh a lot right but i

00:27:06.000 think that this brings us to one of the techno puritan um sort of demands of our religion one

00:27:12.640 of the sins of our religion that a lot of people you know is is an actual biblical sin as we're

00:27:17.320 seeing here is to become like allow the hardships in your life to emotionally affect the way that

00:27:24.960 you appear to your family and those around you because acting sad being sad only hurts your

00:27:30.880 family members um it hurts your kids it hurts the people who rely on you the people who you love

00:27:35.480 most and the people who'd be best able to support you yes and so this is what it's talking about

00:27:40.160 here the acting with strengths and dignity and laughing at the days to come it's saying not just

00:27:44.740 when life is hard do you sit and grin and bear it but you laugh at the days to come because that is

00:27:52.140 something that is within your control how you interpret the world around you is always was

00:27:57.100 in your control how you interpret your challenges is always was in your control and this is what we

00:28:02.020 want from a wife her chill she watches over the affairs of the household and does not eat the 0.87

00:28:09.920 bread of idleness so she's not idle well i mean we already know because apparently she's getting 0.96

00:28:13.760 up early and going to bed late her children arise and call her blessed her husband also and he

00:28:20.600 praises her so again sometimes people are like oh malcolm you gas up simone too much you're supposed

00:28:25.580 to praise your wife that should be normal you should be normal praising your wife um many women

00:28:32.340 do noble things but you surpass them all charm is deceptive and beauty is fleeting wow the first

00:28:42.420 time these things come up which i thought were kind of a thing they're downplayed they are not

00:28:49.660 downplayed scene is actively negative wow beauty is very surprising and charm is deceptive okay 0.52

00:28:58.060 well uh i i would note the beauty is fleeting this is being said by a jewish woman and um of 0.88

00:29:07.940 the people who have women who age early oh my gosh pretty high on that list jewish women look 0.93

00:29:15.400 old at fairly young they you know like there's a joke about the asian women where they like pop 0.99

00:29:20.140 into like a different form like they pupose um jewish women do the same thing they they pupose 0.85

00:29:27.800 into like uh eastern european women do the same thing as well um that's true yeah that's weird 0.60

00:29:34.120 yeah it's like you know really hot young the slavic women or asian women and then it's just

00:29:42.660 like wait and then they look like freaking baba yaga and then yeah well then there's aunties and 0.92

00:29:47.240 grandmas yeah like there's no what happens in between do they just wake up one day i really 0.55

00:29:54.480 don't know well i love that my wife is not of one of the well no she's got a little jew in her so 0.66

00:30:01.980 you know 10 dude yeah you better watch out get ready one day you're gonna wake up 0.97

00:30:09.380 that was from your mom's side and it didn't happen to your mom so i don't expect it to

00:30:13.540 happen to you she aged astoundingly well and remember she had zero work done ever

00:30:18.160 because she seems to have like my same weird genetic instinctual fear of body modification

00:30:23.440 like it feels like stolen valor i feel like i could never even dye my hair because it would be

00:30:28.640 stolen valor i can't pretend to be blonde how dare i i will never deserve to be blonde 0.62

00:30:36.300 charm is deceptive and beauty is fleeting but a woman who fears the lord is to be praised 0.59

00:30:41.880 um which is you you have been the one driving all of the stricter sabbath stuff with us

00:30:47.940 oh and you were the one who called it and i was very grumpy about it so i contest that slightly 0.54

00:30:54.600 But yeah, I guess they're trying to point to priorities, which is a woman prioritizing social manipulation or visual manipulation is not ideal.

00:31:07.240 And a woman who prioritizes God, who then clearly has her priorities and values in order and who's going to lean in to good shared family goals, is a better bet, clearly. 0.97

00:31:16.760 I mean, obviously, if you marry a woman who's obsessed with her appearance, especially depending on how you spend family funds, she'll spend tons of money on hair care, on makeup, on procedures. 1.00

00:31:28.580 She will ruin your family. 1.00

00:31:30.560 Yes. 1.00

00:31:30.960 And it's endless money. 0.95

00:31:32.500 Like, the amount of money you can spend on looking good woman things is shocking. 1.00

00:31:39.600 And they don't really do that much. 0.51

00:31:41.600 the way that a techno puritan family manages jewelry um and i actually gave this a jewish

00:31:47.240 guy asked me for advice on getting married um and he's like oh my god we're absolutely doing that

00:31:53.540 after i gave him what what i recommend doing you and your wife sit down so this isn't just about

00:31:59.380 going through and creating the marriage contract which i think is important to understand what's

00:32:03.940 expected of both of you. But you tell her, today, leading up to your wedding, you get

00:32:10.480 to describe every piece of jewelry you ever want to own. In your life, when you are an

00:32:18.260 old woman, what jewels will you need? What necklaces will you need? You can describe

00:32:24.960 what they look like. You can describe their shape. You can describe whatever you want.

00:32:29.660 but you describe everyone you are going to want right now.

00:32:34.380 And I will work to get those for you.

00:32:37.520 But when we have the last of those, no more.

00:32:41.460 That's it.

00:32:42.280 And no, part of what's important about this is you are describing what they look like.

00:32:47.040 You are describing the look.

00:32:49.040 You as a couple are designing this jewelry yourself.

00:32:52.420 You are not basing it on some designer trend,

00:32:55.780 nor are you going to what is popular with some designer.

00:32:58.840 You are building your own ideal of what is good jewelry for you in the future.

00:33:07.860 That's it.

00:33:09.400 Well, yeah, because we have encountered people in our lives who had an endless voracious hunger for not only jewelry, but very expensive jewelry.

00:33:20.480 people who at one point actually did sell literally a condo to buy jewels uh to buy yeah

00:33:30.980 jewelry which is the kind of the opposite of what's being described here so yeah this makes

00:33:37.900 sense yeah yeah um and uh this is um uh and i also note here that so within the technical period

00:33:46.640 women are allowed to want jewels okay um but they are all they have to be practical about it they

00:33:52.180 have to want specific things for specific outfits that they may want one day um and and the reason

00:33:57.220 why i think the wedding day is good is because one it's it creates a aspiration it allows you

00:34:02.160 to surprise her with things in the future you know at one point she wanted um and it also creates

00:34:07.220 the moment where you've gotten her the last thing and also it prevents her from being too greedy you

00:34:12.240 know because she's laying it all out at once it's like why do you need multiple pearl necklaces

00:34:17.240 right like you can create the multiple pearl necklace effect with three pearl necklaces do

00:34:22.500 you really need more than three pearl necklaces why do you need more than one or four rings or

00:34:29.460 something like that right like you you don't are you going to wear them at the same time do you

00:34:34.160 need to change them every day just everyone knows how rich you are for the record they they do and

00:34:38.920 they're bad for doing it i know it doesn't it doesn't look great but it's a look it's a look

00:34:44.260 but anyway i want to go back over some alternate translations for some of these lines that i read

00:34:50.000 here one is she girbs her loins when with strengths and strengthens her arms this is 31 17

00:34:57.880 um so again it's talking about a woman who is strong like physically strong strengthens her 0.97

00:35:04.580 arms it's it's saying a good one that might be the only thing well you hold babies all the time

00:35:09.000 so that's strengthening yeah these noodles have a surprising amount of uh maybe it's all torque

00:35:15.120 who knows and then another uh translation of the other line is charm is deceitful and beauty is

00:35:20.860 vain um i i prefer beauty is fleeting um but yeah yeah yeah i mean i i've heard people on youtube

00:35:29.260 referred to it recently as glamour magic and i kind of love that like it's a witchcraft i'm like

00:35:35.320 no it's but yeah it is i guess yes and no okay so the the last line of the thing here is honor her

00:35:41.100 for all her hands have done and let her works bring her praise at the city gate so this is

00:35:47.880 saying two things about a wife okay one she's doing all this work and you need to honor her

00:35:55.400 for it or you are not and let i guess let other people recognize her work so you're not hiding

00:36:00.220 her work because if she's earning the city gate for it that means other people are like wow your

00:36:04.420 wife makes a good sash the city gate isn't just anything remember the city gate was referenced

00:36:08.760 earlier where it said where the elders where all the civic stuff is happening it's where all the

00:36:12.340 civic elders are so a lot of people out there when they're trying to tell you what a good

00:36:18.400 trad wife should be um they will say that this is not a woman who should be known outside the 0.99

00:36:23.540 household right right right you know okay she can do a lot of work but like the husband is still the

00:36:29.700 only one who gets public credit for the work of the family this says very explicitly that is an 0.75

00:36:34.600 anti-biblical take the that is in fact do you know what culture did that the jews the greek oh oh

00:36:42.880 right sorry greeks and romans were all like no yeah but she's never greeks were very famously

00:36:46.960 that the you shouldn't know you shouldn't know a guy's wife at all you shouldn't know about anything

00:36:51.740 she's done anything she's ever thought yeah the best wife you like don't even know she's there

00:36:55.840 you never see her yeah that is a pagan concept of trap oh that is so interesting you are you

00:37:04.080 called this like a witch because i used to i used to be like look let's just put you as the public

00:37:09.660 face i don't you know we don't need to be a joint face like you're doing all these ideas are yours

00:37:15.260 why would you like diminish your accomplish my accomplishment by like on the books making me a

00:37:22.280 co-author when i just helped to edit them and you insisted so much on having co-billing on all this

00:37:29.900 and i guess on this particular fight you should be known and and and liked by the community right

00:37:35.920 like that's what he's saying yeah i guess you intuitively understood this i i did not because

00:37:40.260 i was being biblical i intuited being biblical you're intuitively big biblical amazing yeah

00:37:46.520 yeah well it's it's it's like with the 10 commandments and stuff like this now that i've

00:37:50.360 started taking them seriously i love so many people don't take them seriously it's like god

00:37:54.300 sent down only 10 rules okay it's like just these 10 rules okay guys can you deal with 10

00:38:02.640 and they're so important you've got to put them in a giant ark and carry them around all the time

00:38:08.740 everyone there could remember 10 rules okay yeah but they just needed to make extra sure that you

00:38:14.340 understood these are extra important rules unfortunately i've intuitively followed most

00:38:21.480 of them like the hardest one for most people is honoring your father and mother um and i've always

00:38:25.780 done that intuitively um i've never had a problem with that uh the ones that i had the big problem

00:38:30.820 was was following the sabbath and the lord's name in vain and i want to study the lord's name in

00:38:34.960 vain more because i don't know if that makes total sense to me the way so some people have

00:38:39.680 have written to us uh or given us some thought on this and it's not necessarily oh my god as

00:38:46.220 being a mistake but maybe using specific biblical names for that are used for for god the the one

00:38:53.980 that starts with why for example yeah invoking the name of god in vain which is to say praying

00:39:02.820 to him or asking god for trivial things or you know i don't think that i i don't think that's

00:39:09.460 it because praying is talked about elsewhere what i think this is as like praying is clearly

00:39:14.520 something that a good person does so clearly i don't i don't know about this because there's the

00:39:18.340 like these these other things i think in leviticus where you know if a if a widow or orphan cries out

00:39:24.760 to god after you wronged them then really bad things happen to you and that kind of sounds to

00:39:29.720 me like invoking god so i got this impression from putting those two things together that there

00:39:35.340 are people who invoke god who cry out to god in distress or in need and if you do so for trivial

00:39:41.000 things that could be blaspheming two notes here one is the widow and orphan thing that just made

00:39:46.260 me realize that might be why god did go with the kill them all strategy in some of these historic

00:39:51.200 battles is because not killing them all created widows and orphans which caused people who just

00:39:56.400 suffer and slowly die um that may have been part of the intent there um but the uh which would

00:40:03.700 have happened in a historic context uh but the second point here is i think it might actually

00:40:11.700 be referring to trying to use the lord's name now it clearly means the y word right because that was

00:40:17.640 the word that the jews kept considered as super sacred um so much so that we don't even know the

00:40:22.940 correct pronunciation of it anymore it was really yeah it's we guessed it the one that you've heard

00:40:29.100 is i can i'll talk about it in another episode how they came up with it but um we don't know

00:40:33.860 how it was actually pronounced where actually there's so many really interesting details in

00:40:37.860 the bible that i didn't know about in terms of names in general where early biblical authors

00:40:42.560 would for lack of a better term vandalize the names of for example other bad gods so i think

00:40:50.680 even necessarily named but i think what's being talked about here is using god and prayer for

00:40:58.760 spells like attempting to use god's you think that's what blaspheming was yes and i'll tell

00:41:05.860 you why i think that that's what it was about i think it was about that because that's actually

00:41:09.960 an important and useful rule that would be really important to people living good lives

00:41:15.560 and is a temptation that would be normal for Christians and Jews of later periods. 1.00

00:41:22.920 Like kind of like another form of idolatry where you think you can use God to do things for your bidding that are kind of trivial? 0.99

00:41:31.660 Yes. Well, anything you do with a spell is kind of trivial.

00:41:35.620 So it's very different from, it's magic that attempts to use God.

00:41:40.020 That's what I think is being talked about there because that would be a meaningful rule.

00:41:42.980 whereas a not saying a name that nobody even knows i don't think that that's what's meant there

00:41:48.440 it does seem very odd to have off-limits words that does seem so i think it's against i think

00:41:55.860 it's against using the fact that you are using god's name to try to make uh mysticism okay um

00:42:03.380 which a lot of people have done historically they've been like using this isn't witchcraft

00:42:07.920 because i say god first this isn't um you know and there are a lot of christian occultists who

00:42:13.740 try until they finally read the right passage to to justify it is like no this is yeah that's what

00:42:19.320 i think is being talked about there okay oh well yeah where but i could understand how those same

00:42:23.360 people would have thought well i'm not saying oh my god i'm not saying but i've definitely never

00:42:28.940 had that problem i have never uh been tempted to uh use the well just because it's in line with

00:42:35.440 your intuition doesn't mean it's not necessarily the correct interpretation but i do think you're

00:42:39.760 onto something it's not that it's in line with my intuition it's that if it was one of the 10

00:42:44.540 commandments it has to be because the therefore man was made for i'm sorry sabbaths was made for

00:42:51.600 man not man for the sabbaths all of the two commandments are supposed to have a positive

00:42:54.280 effect in your life okay yeah okay so it has to be something that has a significant positive

00:42:58.840 effect oh and how does not saying a word have a positive effect how does not saying a word

00:43:04.280 that nobody knows have a positive effect in your life okay um why is that this big important thing

00:43:11.040 um whereas uh and i don't think god would be so trivial as to care if you use the term god

00:43:17.460 in reference to him or the term jesus in reference to jesus in the wrong way right like i think that

00:43:22.660 would that that would seem like a trivial thing um that's not really gonna have a big negative

00:43:26.240 effect on your life or have a negative effect on your community or but would have an incredibly

00:43:30.260 big negative effect and we've seen it over and over and over again throughout christian history

00:43:33.380 and jewish history is just saying god i'm doing it for god therefore i can do whatever um and then

00:43:39.580 do the occultism then do the tarot card reading then do the you know that would be useful uh a

00:43:46.440 useful and meaningful rule um and so that's why i think that that's that's what's probably being

00:43:50.620 talked about there interesting okay to continue here with other examples from the bible we're

00:43:55.800 not just relying on this one so we've got ruth 311 bows says to ruth of all the people of my

00:44:01.300 town to know that you are a woman of, and then this word, army. You're an army of a woman, right?

00:44:08.700 A robust woman, yes. And then this term is later flipped back around and used for him. So

00:44:15.420 for context here, Ruth is not praised for delicacy or passivity. She is praised in the

00:44:20.700 same category of capability and character that is mostly used for men. In Jewish tradition,

00:44:26.100 The book of Ruth is often read right after Proverbs and is, so the narrative is treated as a living illustration of Proverbs ideals. Okay. So clearly, again, this is the good wife. Proverbs 12, four, a army of a woman is the crown of her husband, but she who brings shame is like rottenness in his bones.

00:44:49.600 So here it's clear that a woman of strengths and capability and respected by the community 0.56

00:44:55.640 is not somebody who brings shame to her husband, but there is a type of woman that would bring 0.70

00:44:59.900 shame to you, and those are bad. 0.77

00:45:02.860 Now, let's go to the New Testament here to be like, okay, is the New Testament saying

00:45:07.800 anything different?

00:45:09.960 Okay, so we've got Titus 2.3 to 5. 1.00

00:45:14.040 older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior not slanderous or slaves too much wine 0.99

00:45:20.400 they are to teach what is good and so to train young women to love their husbands and children 0.97

00:45:25.900 and to have self-control be pure work at home kind and submissive to their husbands that is

00:45:33.420 the word of god and may it not be reviled um now a lot of people take this line to say like well

00:45:39.480 christianity now women have to work from home um i think the working here is the more important part

00:45:45.560 of that line and so i looked up like what the actual translation of this means and it's a

00:45:51.360 better translation probably would have been keeper of the home it's meant to contrast with a woman

00:45:56.140 who is idle at home it in no way means that her only work is inside of the household that is not 0.80

00:46:02.880 that is not a realistic translation of this keep in mind that even the women who were working

00:46:09.240 in the first poem would have been doing it out of their home. They are making clothing and selling

00:46:14.720 it, which is the primary part of that work is done at home. And then they are doing land speculation,

00:46:19.640 which is sort of like being a real estate agent, which again can mostly be done from home. 1.00

00:46:23.400 I am okay with saying that women should have jobs that are where being at home is the dominant 1.00

00:46:28.880 place that that job is done. But then that fits you perfectly and it fits Treadwife influencers 0.98

00:46:33.900 perfectly i suppose yeah timothy 5 9 through 10 let a widow be enrolled if she is not less than

00:46:42.980 60 years of age and having the wife of one husband and having a reputation for good works

00:46:47.700 if she has brought up children and shown hospitality and washed the feet of saints

00:46:51.800 she has cared for the afflictive and she has devoted herself to every good work

00:46:55.660 well that's pretty snobby to wash the feet of only saints uh you know you're gonna pass over

00:47:02.080 most people yeah um but is what is really being talked about here is a woman who is dedicated to

00:47:09.620 the community right that's that's she caring for the afflicted and devoting yourself to good works

00:47:14.740 and showing hospitality um obviously the first work of a woman is to bring up good children but

00:47:19.440 all of these other works are work they're not they're not a woman who is chained up at home

00:47:25.140 a woman who is caring for the afflicted is a woman who so let's consider there's a war or

00:47:31.820 something like this. What is a woman to do if she is a good woman? Is she to stay in the house

00:47:37.260 or is she to go act as a medic, right? This is saying that acting to care for wounded soldiers

00:47:43.780 would be a thing of valor for a woman to do, a Christian woman to do. 0.96

00:47:51.080 Then we have 1 Peter 3, 1 through 6. Likewise, be subject to your husbands. It says that even 0.98

00:47:56.900 if some do not obey the word they may be one without a word by the conduct of their wives

00:48:03.900 when they see your respectful and pure conduct do not let your adorning be external the braiding

00:48:11.300 of hair and the putting on of gold and jewelry or the clothing you wear but let your adorning

00:48:17.220 be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit

00:48:23.240 no we're going to go over different translations for gentle and quiet because this is actually a

00:48:26.540 pretty bad translation here, which in God's sight is very precious. For this is how holy women who

00:48:33.460 helped in God used to adorn themselves by submitting to their husbands as Sarah obeyed

00:48:39.060 Abraham calling to him, Lord, and you are her children. If you do good and do not fear anything

00:48:46.840 that is frightening. So to continue with the gentle mild note here, the word translated here

00:48:55.280 is mild is the word that is translated as meek when jesus says i am gentle and of a lowly heart

00:49:01.840 in matthew 11 29 so that's that's where it's being used here oh or blessed are the me oh so

00:49:06.220 not mild like chill it does not mean like weak or passive but it also is not an aggressive term

00:49:15.400 um it means more like uh not easily provoked having a high amount of self-control so it's

00:49:24.020 saying, and then for the second word here

00:49:26.880 that is translated as quiet, still,

00:49:30.180 tranquil, peaceful, undisturbed,

00:49:32.300 a more accurate translation here would be

00:49:36.240 who has the self-control to not become emotional, 0.87

00:49:40.860 which is a very important trait in woman.

00:49:42.980 So if we're going to then reread this 0.50

00:49:45.640 in terms of like, should you date women 0.97

00:49:47.460 who like dress up in a lot of fancy clothes

00:49:49.660 and everything like this? 1.00

00:49:50.800 Should this be something that you as a woman aspire to? 0.95

00:49:53.100 do not let your adorning be external the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry 0.78

00:49:57.780 or the clothing you wear but let your adorning be hidden person of the heart with the imperishable

00:50:05.700 beauty of a woman who has self-control and does not become emotional what great advice is that

00:50:12.220 when you when you translate it out of of i think the the mistranslated meek that implies passive

00:50:20.380 and stuff like this and i also think for jesus you know when jesus says you know talks about the

00:50:25.400 he's talking about people with self-controlled not the the weak people right like that's not

00:50:31.300 what he's implying there right i actually think a lot many many parts of the bible are talking about

00:50:38.020 uplifting or looking positively on people with self-control or self-control being what's expected

00:50:44.320 of us. And these are the parts that are most aggressively rewritten or written over or

00:50:50.160 translated in ways to mean other things. The Bible is really a book about how much better

00:50:55.600 your life is going to be if you have personal self-control. I mean, there's obviously other

00:51:01.180 things to it, but having personal self-control is one of the largest underlying themes. When you

00:51:07.160 look up alternate translations to words that don't seem to make sense where they're put.

00:51:12.800 then timothy 2 9 through 10 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable

00:51:17.940 apparel with modesty and self-control not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire

00:51:23.680 what are you supposed to do with your hair with what is proper for women who profess godliness

00:51:29.920 with good works um simone i don't think having your hair up is a problem i do think berating it

00:51:37.700 as a problem and i think that i know you love braiding our daughter's hair um and you can braid

00:51:43.380 our daughter's hair so they look like cute little daughters look if you don't if one i'm sure they 0.98

00:51:49.280 didn't mean let your hair down um because at least historically a woman's hair worn down was 0.99

00:51:55.100 considered her most alluring and um sexually explicit characteristics yeah the jews would 0.82

00:52:02.800 take out the woman's hair this is why jews cover their hair because they'd like reveal a woman's 0.80

00:52:08.480 hair if she was suspected of adultery so hair is not clearly not to be worn down probably veiled

00:52:13.560 or covered otherwise well i think what you're missing is the context of this so this is you

00:52:19.500 know in in a a greek world how did women braid their hair in the greek world in roman right i

00:52:24.520 mean there were there were such elaborate braids so maybe what they mean by braiding is like the

00:52:29.220 stuff that you need an assistant to do i think it means elaborate hairstyles so within a modern

00:52:34.560 context this would say that as a christian woman you should not go to salons um you should not

00:52:40.520 do uh you know like no no hair just like get your hair out of the way get your hair out of the way

00:52:46.900 and get ready to work because that's your role in life yeah um and then secondarily i mean we see

00:52:53.560 this in two places that women should not wear jewelry i'm i'm okay with saying i'm not gonna

00:52:58.780 have another hard rule was in techno puritanism that women can't have jewelry but i think that

00:53:02.780 you should as a woman aspire to be the type of woman that doesn't need jewelry well once you

00:53:09.560 become a parent if you're an active parent of young children you are not going to wear much

00:53:17.000 and i will note here that it doesn't ban all jewelry in both of these places it's

00:53:22.320 it's explicitly about a pointlessly expensive jewelry and in both oh you know pearls back then

00:53:28.720 were like gold jewelry and pearls gold jewelry twice and then pearls so i think extremely you

00:53:36.500 know it's not it's it's the girl with the pearl earring not the girl with the pearl earrings

00:53:40.980 let's not get too okay here's what i'm okay with making an explicit ban on okay is designer jewelry

00:53:47.580 this is jewelry that because of a brand name is expensive um unless it's a family heirloom

00:53:54.900 then i'd make an exception i think family heirlooms are great well also family heirloom

00:53:59.780 is jewelry that you didn't pay for yes my favorite outside of family heirlooms i do i do think that

00:54:05.220 you you cannot really sit right with what's being taught to us in the bible and have the modern

00:54:10.460 version of gold slash pearls which is to say that gold and pearls would actually be okay

00:54:14.640 if you go and you get a gold ring made for you just like a generic gold ring or you get a pearl

00:54:21.120 necklace made for you that's okay because those things are actually like fairly modest and cheap

00:54:26.040 and a woman and a woman can still feel like she has jewelry from a societal perspective

00:54:31.040 specifically here this is about reading what's intended by a bible verse rather than being

00:54:36.240 overly strict like imagine you read this verse and you're just like okay no gold jewelry and

00:54:41.180 no pearls but i can have five hundred thousand dollar whatever you know million dollar designer

00:54:48.940 or whatever. Clearly the intention here is to not waste your money on things that adorn you.

00:54:54.520 Now that the civilizational context has changed and gold isn't that particularly expensive,

00:55:00.760 a gold ring isn't that expensive. If a gold ring became expensive again, then of course this would

00:55:04.300 reapply. This is what we talk about was like literalism while not being an idiot about it, 0.98

00:55:10.840 right? And of course you can tell this is where techno-puritanism becomes a high demand religion 0.99

00:55:15.740 or a cult clearly because I'm making requirements of people that they not waste their money on

00:55:21.040 designer jewelry. But no, I think that it's really important that we read what's intended here to not

00:55:30.160 waste money or time on adorning yourselves or on what you look like. In fact, I would say more than

00:55:36.540 an attack on, in a modern context, a gold ring. This is an attack on transness, for example, 0.99

00:55:44.280 like spending a ton of time and money on attempting to look a different way. It's an 0.95

00:55:50.120 attack on anything that is that particularly indolent, where you are saying, I am going to

00:55:55.240 spend a huge amount of my time, not necessarily even just money, thinking about how I appear to

00:56:01.800 other people. I would also say that this could be seen as a prohibition on extreme forms of

00:56:09.340 subculture you know like tons of piercings tons of tattoos anything like that it's it's saying

00:56:15.780 you should not be focused on that and i think it's a good warning and a good advice for life

00:56:20.340 to not be focused on that type of thing but anything is that valuable like who for whom

00:56:26.340 is this jewelry like i can't even wear the jewelry that i wanted and wore daily before i had kids

00:56:32.500 because now if i wore it today i'm saying aspirationally a techno puritan woman would

00:56:36.260 want no jewelry at all yeah yeah okay but i mean even you're wearing pearls right now yeah i really

00:56:42.460 like them i can see them in shot but i i think if you if you want to make like an easy hard

00:56:48.840 absolutely never go there it's buying designer jewelry and i think this is an easy thing to come 0.57

00:56:53.880 with your wife and just be like well also it's so stupid to do it because you're paying a huge 0.91

00:56:58.540 markup for a brand that is not worth it like the wedding the engagement ring that you had made for 0.99

00:57:08.500 me was made by a man who used to design jewelry for tiffany's and then just left and we could

00:57:14.440 just buy designs from him and his whole team like and you got it at a fraction of the price and the

00:57:20.140 same ring if we had bought it from tiffany's would be twice as much actually i'll make an easier like

00:57:26.680 broader uh just rule here that i think is useful if you already own it or you inherited it it's

00:57:32.600 fine yeah designer clothing and things more generally i i would ban like brand branded

00:57:39.700 yeah instead of just like i need a well-made shirt i need a well-made socks you're not gonna

00:57:46.160 like i'm gonna go get whatever this the sock of the day is i don't know what the sock of the day

00:57:53.360 anything i think that that's the intention of these and i think that's a very good intention

00:57:58.140 okay do not buy designer anything uh going forwards it is there there is always a cheaper

00:58:05.360 alternative you are paying for a name and you are paying to try to alter people's opinion of you so

00:58:11.560 that you appear more something and it's something that that uh in there's really no context where

00:58:18.360 you shouldn't feel okay being a little bit embarrassed being the one person who's not in

00:58:22.240 a designer something um well i think there's something to dressing respectfully for

00:58:29.260 right but you can always dress respectfully without designer stuff um yeah you like yeah

00:58:35.200 there's no instance in which you you can show up like not showing up without jewelry will signal a

00:58:42.820 lack of respect for the event black tie all the way down white tie all the way down you can show

00:58:49.520 up to an event and be respectful without jewelry this is true for both men and women yeah this is

00:58:56.020 true that's weird that's interesting um well and you can show up to any event with a non-designer

00:59:03.140 and still look good oh 100 percent obviously a non-designer tux you can get a non-designer

00:59:07.480 you know or you can have something made for you if you have to right go to etsy uh yeah create

00:59:12.900 a distinct style for techno puritans which is something you're supporting individual people 0.99

00:59:16.940 as long as you avoid the Chinese resellers. 1.00

00:59:19.740 And then the final bit I'm going to talk about here 0.99

00:59:21.540 is how women should dress. 0.99

00:59:25.200 Corinthians 11, 5 through 15. 1.00

00:59:28.600 But every woman who prays or prophesies 0.99

00:59:30.600 with her head uncovered dishonors her head. 0.94

00:59:33.200 It is the same as having her head shaved. 1.00

00:59:36.280 For if a woman does not cover her head, 1.00

00:59:38.480 she might as well have her hair cut off. 1.00

00:59:42.340 But it is a disgrace for a woman 1.00

00:59:44.540 to have her hair cut off her head shaved. 1.00

00:59:46.940 then she could cover her head.

00:59:49.500 A man ought to not cover his head

00:59:51.960 since he is the image and glory of God. 1.00

00:59:54.580 But a woman- 1.00

00:59:55.100 Oh, so is this where the whole Jew wig thing started? 1.00

00:59:58.840 No, this is Christian. 0.83

01:00:00.400 This is a Christian. 1.00

01:00:01.520 Sorry, this is- 0.81

01:00:02.560 Oh, you said Corinthians.

01:00:03.880 Is that what you said? 1.00

01:00:04.040 Yeah, this is why Catholics often wear veils in church. 1.00

01:00:07.780 Only in church?

01:00:08.920 Is this saying in church or is this saying always?

01:00:11.160 Yes, it explicitly says

01:00:12.300 every woman who prays or prophesies

01:00:14.640 with her head uncovered.

01:00:15.560 um and it's because the woman is supposed to be a glory to her husband you put on your 0.68

01:00:21.900 praying cat praying hat yeah now you could go further with this and say that a woman's head

01:00:29.180 needs to be covered at all times some groups have gone further with it but i i think that this is

01:00:34.440 just talking about prayer and then to continue here it says for man did not come from woman

01:00:38.880 but woman for man neither was man created for woman but woman for man it is for this reason

01:00:45.000 that a woman ought to have authority over her own head because of the angels. Nevertheless,

01:00:51.320 in the Lord, woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came

01:00:58.360 from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God. Judge for yourselves.

01:01:04.600 Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not the very nature of things 0.99

01:01:10.480 teach you that if a man has long hair it is a disgrace to him but that if a woman has long

01:01:16.360 hair it is her glory for long hair is given to her as a covering wait did wait is corinthians

01:01:22.060 dunking on jesus hair uh yeah jesus definitely did not have long hair just as a christian man

01:01:28.720 you are not supposed to have long hair like this is clear what a lot of a mistake like every

01:01:35.300 mormon household with like the jesus mormon oh mind blown well we often don't think about it this 0.97

01:01:41.800 way i think someone makes a point here which is that even mormons are super super prone to

01:01:45.900 idolatry a mistake that a lot of christians make is they are aware of samson and samson

01:01:54.640 got power from long hair what wait in rapunzel was he the og rapunzel what is what is happening

01:02:03.140 he was a nazirite and this is the part that everybody gets wrong okay nazirites were a

01:02:10.560 collection of vows that you would undertake as a jew in a traditional context okay and the long

01:02:18.460 hair wasn't so much one of those vows i mean it was and that was important the don't let a blade

01:02:24.420 touch your skin to cut your hair yeah anywhere on your body but it was the sign that you were

01:02:30.060 doing the vows and the other vows were more important the other vows were uh you don't touch

01:02:35.740 dead uh bodies or animals and you don't drink alcohol um and the reason why you would grow out

01:02:43.340 the long hair uh what why are you posting this everybody knows that i'm just like getting a

01:02:49.600 closer look at it i this is this is all wrong then yes okay so to be a nazirite you're saying

01:02:56.180 or a what you had to have so if you were a nazirite if you take the nazirite vows okay

01:03:01.600 it meant that you were doing a number of things and part of the purpose of growing out your hair

01:03:07.440 during the nazirite vows is so that other people would know that you were doing them

01:03:12.700 and so that they can be like bro why are you drinking with us you you can't do that you're

01:03:18.200 okay okay so it was like um yeah like gosh what's a like wearing a wedding ring and people being 0.75

01:03:27.540 like i'm not gonna date you you're married or there is absolutely no way jesus was doing nazarite

01:03:33.220 vows because jesus drank regularly right oh my goodness gracious what so okay he definitely did

01:03:41.060 not have uh not have long hair so uh yeah jesus uh did and and the other thing that we know it's

01:03:48.320 gonna bother me so much going forward even if he was doing a nazirite thing or had a very unusual

01:03:53.960 haircut um by the way you should ask google when they started doing that and why so we got an answer

01:03:59.300 for people um if if you look at the scene when they're asking uh him to point out jesus using a

01:04:06.540 kiss so that they know who jesus is oh okay what what this is when the roman soldiers are going to

01:04:12.520 arrest jesus okay and they tell judas you need to tell us which is the right guy uh by kissing him

01:04:18.580 yes on the sorry i'm still in the old testament okay i'm rusty yes so he he gives him he would

01:04:26.060 only need to do that if jesus looked like a normal person during that period oh right yeah

01:04:31.180 they couldn't be like the guy with the long hair if he had long hair he could have said the guy

01:04:36.380 was the long hair because that was not normal during that period especially if he wasn't like

01:04:40.840 a normal nazirite and he had like a normal facial beard otherwise um so no you i'm okay with a

01:04:47.160 christian if they're actually going to take the nazirite vows doing the nazirite vows i don't

01:04:50.660 think that's a problem biblically speaking but like it's i think it's pretty clear here that

01:04:54.420 you're not supposed to have long hair okay so jesus began to be depicted with long hair around

01:04:58.540 ad 300 in the late third or early fourth century but it was a gradual change not a sudden replacement

01:05:04.940 of short-haired images the familiar long-haired bearded appearance became established in eastern

01:05:10.780 christianity by the sixth century while western artists continued using multiple appearances for

01:05:17.580 centuries so from when you look at surviving images of jesus from the third century a.d like

01:05:24.040 so in the 200s they show a youthful short-haired beardless jesus this is completely opposite from

01:05:31.000 the jesus i've been showing all my life an early example is the painting of jesus healing a

01:05:36.180 paralytic at dura aeropos dated to about 80 235 um sorry i know we're supposed to be talking about

01:05:45.220 tom girls tom boys tom girls tom boys tom boys however this is so interesting you can't like

01:05:52.800 see him super well but there's a guy he's got short hair and no beard and i don't know what's

01:05:58.580 going on with this paralytic it it looks like the woman on the on the college campus is carrying

01:06:03.200 around her mattress but yeah it shows um a jesus he's wearing you know he's wearing jesus style

01:06:08.980 robes so that is that has remained consistent but it's clearly a dude with short hair and no beard

01:06:13.720 i am mind blown here well i think this is one of the dangers of icons it's a misrepresent

01:06:19.360 reality and they can cause you to imagine um a world and and compete in your mind with what is

01:06:27.300 biblical yeah wow but anyway why did artists give him long hair they say across the board

01:06:33.640 the changes appear to have been about conveying jesus's identity and authority rather than

01:06:39.060 preserving information about his haircut artists drew on existing greco-roman visual traditions

01:06:43.560 long-haired bearded gods such as zeus and jupiter images of philosophers and the enthroned ruler

01:06:50.640 these offered ways to portray jesus's divine wise and sovereign scholars they're like well

01:06:55.700 i don't know if i can respect him let's make him look more like pagan gods what are you doing

01:07:01.480 oh my god it's it's the the amount of paganism that has seeped in to the iterations of christianity 0.66

01:07:09.080 that uh i think just like larp is trad it's it's gross i i personally find it gross everybody knows

01:07:14.240 i find it gross um it's not it's not school well right like like christmas being on a holiday in

01:07:23.200 december 25th it was like devoted to multiple other gods at various points and uh that's messed

01:07:28.620 up jesus being styled like zeus oh my goodness people know the the christmas one i'm sorry we

01:07:34.220 don't we have a whole episode on this that's just an urban legend really episode on it christmas

01:07:39.440 well but we don't know when jesus was born why was it chosen we don't overlap with a bunch of

01:07:43.400 christmas was not a repurposed pagan holiday what about saturnalia it was go to our episode on it

01:07:51.900 We talk about this for literally like an hour and a half.

01:07:54.220 We go over tons of receipts.

01:07:56.500 No memory.

01:07:58.460 December 17th to December 23rd.

01:08:00.860 What you will learn if you watch the episode is that the earliest evidence we have of Christians celebrating on this date predates the earliest evidence we have of a Sol Invictus holiday on this date.

01:08:13.060 And the earliest evidence we have of a Sol Invictus holiday on this date comes from Christian communities.

01:08:19.400 As for Saturnalia, which she's talking about here, it never included December 25th in anything that we're aware of.

01:08:27.580 It originally was on December 17th, and it ran through December 23rd, but never in any record that we're aware of included December 25th.

01:08:37.560 My life has been a lie. God is dead. The government's lame. Thanksgiving is about killing Indians.

01:08:42.820 Jesus wasn't born on Christmas. They moved the data with a pagan holiday. 0.97

01:08:46.020 That's pretty close, Malcolm. 0.85

01:08:47.680 Look up our episode on this.

01:08:49.260 Okay, Simone?

01:08:50.320 That is for you right now if you're interested. 1.00

01:08:53.620 Go watch that episode.

01:08:55.140 We go over it in detail.

01:08:56.220 People hated that episode.

01:08:56.600 People got so mad at us bursting that urban legend.

01:09:00.340 People got so mad at us bursting that urban legend.

01:09:02.860 Then why did they arbitrarily choose that time of year of all times?

01:09:06.540 Look at our episode.

01:09:07.760 Do you want to ask people what we said?

01:09:09.740 We went over it for an hour.

01:09:10.660 I don't remember.

01:09:12.420 It's been a long time.

01:09:13.800 we recorded the episode like a year and a half ago all i remember is that the evidence was

01:09:18.380 overwhelming that it was not uh based on saturnalia um that it was not based on any

01:09:26.280 pagan tradition that all of the the vast majority of the links that people try to use to link it to

01:09:31.880 pagan traditions uh came about in like the 1850s yeah um and have nothing to do like the christmas

01:09:38.540 tree and the yule log and the all of those things i ain't i am letting go of that that nonsense

01:09:44.580 whatever it is very little to do with anything that could be linked to pagan traditions yeah

01:09:48.840 okay fair love you simone uh and if you're watching this and if there's something you're

01:09:53.200 curious about i will try to remember to make it one of the recommended videos for you

01:09:56.900 but if not you have hands and you know how to use google check it out so you can get angry at us

01:10:02.860 for breaking your childhood myth that you were celebrating a pagan holiday for christmas well

01:10:10.580 the other one is uh easter easter is also not in any way pagan that's the other one where people

01:10:16.480 get very confused i've learned nothing learned nothing i'm gonna forget that god told us to

01:10:24.060 marry tomboins as well obviously the number of especially christians who crashed out learning

01:10:29.120 that it wasn't pagan in origin was really funny um i think you'd like buy into these but with a

01:10:34.500 lot of this stuff with the hair and stuff like this i think it's very important to not buy into

01:10:37.820 the urban legends to not buy into the the typical descriptions and to uh you know really earnestly

01:10:43.680 search for what is existentially true um all these people cosplaying as jesus we're cosplaying as

01:10:49.520 zeus we're just i know isn't that super offensive when you think about it it's it's deeply offensive

01:10:55.560 imagine imagine right imagine you are you know the historical jesus and you know you you die on

01:11:01.460 the cross you sins etc and then you come back it's the year 2026 and on every mormon household

01:11:11.280 wall there's there's you go into a a uh you know an orthodox church and it's like that scene before

01:11:17.200 Come and go, Mr. Ventura.

01:11:19.200 There's something you might enjoy.

01:11:41.200 Something wrong, Mr. Ventura?

01:11:47.200 of course not this is a lovely room of death take care now bye bye then

01:11:52.760 and you're like who who's why why are the why the pagan worship why the why do you have pagan

01:11:59.940 pictures why did you put what did that zeus on the cross where i why do you have pagan pictures

01:12:06.280 everywhere yeah what's going on with this didn't we're pretty clear about the no icon thing and

01:12:11.520 if you're like well no it says no idols not no icons it's like well i mean they sound like the

01:12:16.660 same thing to me and this is what we're talking about when we're talking about what i think the

01:12:21.000 blasphemy line is actually about we're just because you put the word god in front of uh you know

01:12:26.420 witchcraft or a spell or a icon or an idol it doesn't make it okay right like you you can't

01:12:33.680 just say well i'm doing x bad thing for god therefore it's good anyway the whole thing

01:12:41.980 jesus on the cross and all these churches i've never been okay with that i've never been and

01:12:47.840 like why are they i know okay because because of his sacrifice we have to remember it but like

01:12:53.580 i don't know just if i if i don't think that he would be super stoked about that it wasn't his

01:13:00.060 favorite moment i mean especially given you know my god my god why have you forsaken me yeah he

01:13:04.880 wasn't he wasn't thinking i'm chatting it up right now yeah like this is the snapshot yeah this is

01:13:10.080 when you know for the history books this is the look i want right here to be half naked and nailed 0.99

01:13:16.860 to a pole yeah and like you know what when i want a woman to show her devotion to me i want her to 1.00

01:13:21.820 wear a necklace of the thing that hurt a lot uh all the time and again she loves me so she'll wear 0.70

01:13:27.840 the torture device it was used on me important he also noted make sure i'm always depicted half

01:13:32.760 naked half naked and dying great great well more than half naked i would say he was like 89

01:13:39.660 percent naked naked in most of the depictions yeah i don't yeah that's not awesome anyway

01:13:45.180 and why'd they have to go with naked that was a weird that was a with a very bad actually didn't

01:13:50.380 have him wear red robes or something when he was being crucified because uh they were mocking him

01:13:56.540 as like a whole like fake king thing so depending on the gospel you're reading he was put in red or

01:14:03.020 purple robes but these were taken by the guards before crucifying him so he actually likely would

01:14:09.180 would have been entirely naked with crucified this was meant to humiliate the crucifixion

01:14:14.720 victims when they were being crucified but again probably not the look you'd want on you know

01:14:20.160 the my scene moment of your life oh oh my goodness i love you i love you too bye it's so it's like

01:14:28.800 having a genie that's what vibe coding is it's like hey genie i wish except that there's i mean

01:14:34.360 The wishes are only limited to how much money you can spend, I guess.

01:14:38.640 Jeannie for pay, Jeannie for hire.

01:14:40.340 It's so amazing.

01:14:42.620 You don't know this, but with this tablet thing that you've set up on Mud Puppy for kids,

01:14:49.920 you've basically created a young lady's illustrated primer, this amazing device described in

01:14:57.400 Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age.

01:14:59.780 You just don't know it because you've never read that book.

01:15:01.840 But, like, it's the pivot point of this book where this techno-feudal element of society called, like, I think they're, like, called the Neo-Victorians.

01:15:13.200 One Neo-Victorian man commissions the ultimate reading, sorry, the ultimate educational device for his daughter or something.

01:15:22.740 and a man makes it and then goes through very illegal lengths to try to copy it just so that

01:15:28.460 his daughter can have access to the most privileged education of all time and it's it's basic it's a

01:15:36.720 it looks like a book but it's it's just adapted to sort of educate your kid uh along with you

01:15:43.960 know with them and in a way that's very customized to them and that is what you are building and it's

01:15:47.680 insane to me you're building young ladies illustrated primer works now it works and our

01:15:53.800 kids are able to do it and the ai companion feature is so fucking cool we've got to teach

01:15:58.220 the kids about it because they've got to sort of understand they can push that button and have it

01:16:01.720 talk about whatever they're working on well it only just appeared today i was play testing other

01:16:05.980 elements of them of it with them just now but they really like the they really like the games

01:16:11.680 for people who don't know if you want to download this it's free to use except for like when they're

01:16:16.700 using things that cost us money in which point we charge a 50 margin and it is the uh and a very

01:16:23.840 little on this actually like costs us money so most of it's going to be free for you um you take 0.59

01:16:30.300 any old android device you have and uh you know i'll make an easier way to get to the mud puppy

01:16:35.880 app what do you want to call the mud puppy app or the mud puppy system the tablet os mud puppy os

01:16:43.820 mudpuppyos

01:16:45.440 okay

01:16:46.800 I'm going to do this right now to make it easier

01:16:49.840 to reach so you can go to mudpuppy.ai

01:16:51.480 backslash os

01:16:52.420 okay

01:16:53.460 just throwing some stuff in there

01:16:55.960 it is just like a genie

01:16:58.060 like you said it's just like magic

01:16:59.280 so much more powerful than magic

01:17:01.860 hey could we have that

01:17:03.040 yeah could my kids

01:17:04.940 I've always wanted my kids to have a tablet

01:17:06.600 where they can watch shows and earn points

01:17:09.400 and watch other shows

01:17:10.640 we went through today

01:17:13.700 And we found out that the AI had accidentally added some woke stuff.

01:17:16.320 So we're going through and we're cleaning out all the wokeness from the system.

01:17:22.000 Oh, also decided to track what shows parents like to add or remove.

01:17:25.300 So we know we can make the defaults better.

01:17:27.160 Hmm.

01:17:43.700 You ran into me, sorry.

Based Camp - October 16, 2026

The Bible： Marry A Tomboy (Real “Trad” = Tomboy)

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