Based Camp - The Curse of Bisexuality： Worse Than Being Gay Across Stats ... But WHY？？？

00:00:00.000 hello simone today is going to be an interesting episode that is an episode that was spurned from

00:00:05.280 something that happened as we recorded other episodes some of which haven't even gone live yet

00:00:09.460 but basically we occasionally when there's sexual statistics we'll go through them and we'll be like

00:00:14.960 oh what's going on here what's going on here right because people typically break things down by are

00:00:21.140 you gay are you straight are you lesbian or are you bi or are you trans and then yeah and every

00:00:27.800 time we've done this there's been this little phenomenon that i always throw out in the moment

00:00:33.320 right it's always like well you have the straight people who are typically doing pretty well

00:00:39.060 then you have the gay people that are typically doing middling then you have the trans people 1.00

00:00:44.340 which are typically doing pretty bad yeah and then for whatever reason you have the bi people 0.99

00:00:49.360 who are off the charts doing bad yeah which is weird because if i was thinking about it i would

00:00:57.220 think that the the data would typically go straight bi gay trans yeah because especially 1.00

00:01:04.960 like if you're bi it's almost like you get the best of all worlds like if you want to live your

00:01:08.920 best gay life you get to do that if you want to live your straight life and conform with society you 0.92

00:01:13.740 could do that like yeah the last thing i would have expected was straight gay trans bi yeah yeah like 0.99

00:01:23.360 you think that that you you're all terrain you're all terrain sexual well like why is this an all 0.98

00:01:28.240 terrain sexual yes oh so let's dig into this because one when i look into it you find it in any statistic

00:01:36.900 you're looking at that's the thing it always shows up and we always have other things to talk about so

00:01:41.700 we don't dive in but what what is going on all right so let's start with a graph here okay okay so

00:01:48.020 this graph is mental health bisexual orientation okay okay so on the far left you've got hetero 0.51

00:01:55.100 female okay they're doing pretty well they're in the positives here oh and then hetero male oh the

00:01:59.780 only other group in the positives that's nice that's nice for them okay okay so who's got the 0.91

00:02:04.040 next best mental health just a little bit down in mental health okay you're gay males honestly i'd 0.58

00:02:09.460 expect them to do better so this is a little surprising but pretty close to fine okay then who's who's 0.97

00:02:14.920 doing next best okay just a about twice as bad as gay males all right here you've got gay females 1.00

00:02:22.280 okay yeah okay okay let's look at bisexual females because they're the next down oh boy they are doing 1.00

00:02:32.000 about five times worse than gay males oh man significantly worse um okay so but then the farthest down 1.00

00:02:40.340 is bisexual males oh that's which is just off the chart so weird because like we even talked about 0.99

00:02:48.920 like even i was just listening to some as my goal today being like oh man when i was a teen i i wished

00:02:54.400 i were gay because it would just be so much easier i know i actually before i went through puberty i had

00:02:59.180 the thought of like it likes gonna be so much more fun if i'm gay no i think i think a lot of guys have

00:03:05.200 that thought and here's the thing like i think in some ways it can suck to be gay because like let's 0.69

00:03:10.560 say you're religious right and you want to have a family like you want to pursue the sacrament of 0.99

00:03:14.140 having a family but like the idea of banging a woman is super repugnant right so that sucks because 0.81

00:03:20.320 then it would be really hard to have a family either you have but if you're not or i wasn't born in a 0.92

00:03:24.860 religious family you know i didn't have you know but even then like if you want to live a maximally

00:03:29.240 hedonic life then it it helps to be attracted to men because women are a lot harder to access and 1.00

00:03:34.940 gay communities are super fun but like not only that option it's like you'd be way better off 1.00

00:03:40.960 either way you one know what your partner wants and can model that right yeah but then two you you

00:03:48.220 can do things and pleasure max and wait there is nothing i can do with a straight man that's like

00:03:52.520 fire island there's nowhere i can go where there's like a ton of women that want to sleep with me right 1.00

00:03:56.100 like if i'm a hot guy there's literally nowhere on earth i can go that is even remotely like a gay 0.95

00:04:02.240 cruise or fire island or something like the female equivalent well yeah where it's just like everyone 1.00

00:04:08.220 there is a woman who wants to bang me right well i mean there is it's like epstein island except all 1.00

00:04:12.420 the women are miserable and then they write tell all books and talk about how terrible it was and then 1.00

00:04:16.180 you get prince andrewd and your life is awful so yeah no there really isn't like if only you know 0.99

00:04:21.280 prince andrewd was gay this none of this would have happened you know sad i love you so 0.99

00:04:26.040 much you are such a wacko but the point here being is this is confusing to me right because 0.99

00:04:31.000 okay we can talk about where being gay might help you as hidden as a max thing which i think leads 0.99

00:04:35.460 to more mental health problems so i think that could be one of the reasons why there's so much

00:04:39.000 lower it works for some people but but simone what doesn't make sense to me here right like if i'm

00:04:44.700 just looking at this at face value yeah okay gay men are much more mentally healthy than gay women 0.75

00:04:50.960 okay but bisexual women are much more mentally healthy than bisexual males yeah what's up with 1.00

00:05:00.400 that that is that is weird eric and presumably the bisexual like male no actually no no no no i i think

00:05:07.060 i think maybe the issue though is that all women are kind of seen as bi by default anyway you know like

00:05:16.060 there's this whole thing about oh you all go through your lesbian period in college right you

00:05:20.580 think that you think that the bi females are being watered down yeah i think i think it's kind of 0.99

00:05:24.540 tacitly understood that all women are bi anyway because like i said it's a trope to do your lesbian 0.97

00:05:31.000 thing in college and to kiss a girl i kissed a girl and i liked it as a song and like all this stuff

00:05:35.020 is just kind of i think while people still view female sexuality largely on a kinsey scale from like gay to

00:05:41.980 straight it's really not people actually understand intuitively that women really don't care that much 0.99

00:05:47.920 about gender they may not go the the step further required to understand that it really female

00:05:53.080 sexuality more has to do with dominance and submission but they also understand that women just kind of

00:05:57.040 don't care as much about the the gender of the person that they're they're getting intimate with

00:06:03.120 so i think that the problem is that with men there there is typically a much stronger

00:06:09.820 polarization of attraction to primary and secondary sexual characteristics so when men deviate from

00:06:17.100 that and are able to bridge the divide they are seen as more weird unusual like it's one or the other

00:06:25.360 you know you you got to be a magnet you know you're you're a plus or a minus yeah so it's a team

00:06:31.380 but here's the thing that that makes sense and i have a hypothesis here that i didn't have when i was

00:06:37.540 putting all these together but we're gonna get to more stats in just a second okay but like i keep

00:06:41.620 thinking to myself why would bisexual men be like by far the worst off because presumably if they want 1.00

00:06:47.480 a hedonism max they can do that right and if they want to live like a monogamous wife and have a family 1.00

00:06:52.340 they can do that as well and isn't that great yeah wouldn't wouldn't most men want the option 1.00

00:06:56.920 right here's could be the answer okay and it's it's the maximally offensive answer

00:07:02.200 wait can you guess what it's gonna be no i really don't know because this doesn't make any sense to

00:07:07.800 me i really don't know my mom used to always tell me what what do you think maybe she told me about

00:07:11.140 bisexual men actually i don't know they don't exist she said bisexual men are predominantly just gay

00:07:21.120 men who are covering for it and that would make sense if bisexual is a self-category for a self-hating 0.99

00:07:29.560 gay then it would make sense that they have so much worse mental health problems because they're just 1.00

00:07:35.600 not there yeah they're like yeah you're not in the closet you're not out of the closet you're 0.99

00:07:41.180 constantly slamming yourself in the closet door yes and there was actually a study done on this at

00:07:46.840 one point and it showed that of men who identify as bisexual i think it was like 75 or it might have

00:07:52.740 been higher than that actually only get aroused by one gender or the other if you do like you can 0.54

00:07:57.480 attach like electrodes to their junk and show them stuff and who consents to that how much do you have

00:08:03.220 to be paid oh yeah so doing a little too much for memory here so let's see what the study actually said

00:08:08.160 so the study i was thinking of was by michael bailey and it was published in 2005 and it was called

00:08:14.020 sexual arousal patterns in bisexual men the way it worked is a mercury and rubber strain gauge a type 0.63

00:08:21.300 of phlegmograph it's like those things that they attach their arms anyway was attached around the 0.89

00:08:25.680 member to detect changes in circumference as an indicator of erection this is the electro to the 0.66

00:08:31.400 junk thing that i mentioned here so the results bisexual men did not show a distinctly bisexual pattern 0.92

00:08:38.540 i.e strong response to both male and female stimuli instead their genital responses were more 0.88

00:08:43.840 monosexual mostly similar to gay men's patterns stronger arousal to male stimuli with some resembling

00:08:50.480 straight male stronger to female stimuli the paper doesn't give an exact percentage breakdown but the

00:08:55.480 ny times coverage on it which was referenced interpreted it at about three quarters 75 percent of

00:09:00.160 the bisexual men having arousal patterns indistinguishable for gay men the remaining 0.94

00:09:04.760 quarter similar to straight men in other words few if any showed substantial genital arousal to both

00:09:10.000 genders equally strongly statistically there was no significant quadratic relationship indicating a

00:09:15.360 unique bisexual gender pattern those i think it's 75 of those were just attracted to men and then

00:09:23.040 like 25 were just attracted to women oh boy that's embarrassing anyway yeah what is this simone you 0.53

00:09:30.960 goof you like looking at the kid funny looks he's just giving me funny looks yeah well you know it's your

00:09:36.540 your biology there so let's look at other things here any mental illness in the past year okay so let's 0.93

00:09:43.760 look at this okay okay okay so bisexual we've got 50 percent lesbian we've got 25 percent 25 percent of 0.66

00:09:53.040 having mental problems or good mental health had a mental health illness so i find this interesting because

00:09:58.160 it shows that gay and lesbian were a bit above heterosexual but around the right range whereas

00:10:04.720 they were half of what bisexuals were if you look at serious mental illness so that was any mental illness 0.99

00:10:09.360 serious mental illness bisexuals it was 19 percent gay or lesbian it was six percent heterosexual was four 0.93

00:10:16.000 or five percent whoa um major depressive episode bisexuals 26 percent gay and lesbian 14 percent

00:10:24.560 heterosexuals 10 percent unaliving attempts 26 to 36 percent by the gay higher one is lesbian 30 0.51

00:10:34.320 so over here i've been reading whichever was higher gay or lesbian and it's been lesbian every time

00:10:40.000 and then less than five percent for straight depression or anxiety risk bisexuals are again 0.99

00:10:46.720 1.5 to 2x higher okay let's go next here's some interesting ones inter partner violence well that's

00:10:53.120 got to be lesbians right very interesting here okay so female to male heterosexual inter partner violence 0.57

00:11:00.640 so and and this is the level to which they're a victim of it okay so women are a victim for men 35 0.98

00:11:07.600 of the time men are a victim for women 29 of the time and that's got to be that's got to be higher

00:11:13.280 because i bet it's really underreported but sure yeah and i've heard ones of those that show that it's

00:11:18.960 actually higher for women to men but you know we'll get because we see it on air like i'm sure macron 0.81

00:11:22.880 wouldn't say that he's a victim of it but he exactly that's the point yeah 0.57

00:11:31.920 okay male to male game remember women it was 35 men it was 29 it's 26 so below and there was a piece

00:11:43.520 recently by emil kirkagard that argued that when you correct for the fact that gays pair up less as

00:11:50.000 getting relationships less it's actually slightly higher like gays will be with another partner 1.00

00:11:54.400 without defining themselves as in a partnership and so you really don't get the very best

00:11:57.520 partnerships claiming they gave me it doesn't matter we're not gonna go into that the point being

00:12:01.040 is that gays are probably at around the rate of heterosexuals or maybe a bit lower

00:12:05.040 lesbian of course really high as you know 43.8 percent oh oh but here's where it gets interesting 1.00

00:12:14.160 bisexual women 61.1 percent what higher than lesbians and and bisexual men are also one of

00:12:22.960 the highest categories 37.3 percent but still less than lesbians wow now let's look at physical violence 0.99

00:12:28.320 rates because this is where it gets really interesting okay women 29.8 percent in heterosexual

00:12:33.840 relationships men 26.3 percent gays again lower 24 lesbians again higher 36.3 but what about

00:12:41.440 bisexuals this is physical violence women 55.1 percent over half over half of women who are bisexuals 0.96

00:12:52.720 have experienced physical violence from their partner and for males it's 27 okay let's go to the

00:12:59.520 next category here severe physical violence what's this going to be women 23.6 women 13.9 gays in

00:13:06.400 between this time 16.4 and lesbians again topping everyone at 29.4 except for and i couldn't find the 1.00

00:13:14.640 numbers for bisexual men here but i found it for women okay women for severe physical violence if they're

00:13:19.440 bisexual 49.3 percent almost half of bisexual women are severely physically abused wow man so like if

00:13:31.200 you have a bisexual friend ask them if they're okay today grape threats i couldn't find it for male to 0.90

00:13:37.680 male or female to female but i could find it for women how frequently they get this from their partners

00:13:42.880 if they're in a heterosexual relationship it's 9.1 bisexual women is 22.1 percent twice the rate 1.00

00:13:50.320 you see what i mean like these numbers are everywhere even where you wouldn't expect them

00:13:55.280 okay let's look at this is from the longitudinal study of adolescent and adult health so we're looking

00:14:02.560 at have they undergone physical violence forced intercourse or threatened violence okay okay so bisexual 0.92

00:14:09.840 males physical violence 11.1 percent threatened 18.5 forced intercourse 17.1 so let's compare that to

00:14:21.600 heterosexual males you get 4.9 way lower 10 10 percent that's for certain violence and then forced 0.92

00:14:31.520 intercourse 4.9 so like dramatically like orders of magnitude lower if we go to bisexual women 1.00

00:14:40.320 this is also gets pretty interesting so forced intercourse only 2.6 remember in bisexual males

00:14:46.400 it was 17.1 yeah and a heterosexual woman is 1.4 only but something like way lower than the bisexual 0.98

00:14:53.040 women i'll leave this on screen here basically you're seeing the same patterns here a the key insights 0.97

00:14:57.840 from the study bisexual males were notably higher rates of forced blank perpetration compared to

00:15:03.920 heterosexual males was odds adjusted five times higher after controlling for demographics and other

00:15:07.840 factors bisexual females showed modestly higher rates of physical violence and threatened violence

00:15:13.280 perpetrated than heterosexual females their differences were not always statistically significant

00:15:18.320 okay so a 2022 systemic review of 78 studies on domestic abuse perpetration among sexual minorities

00:15:27.520 including bisexuals found consistent evidence that bisexual individuals

00:15:32.400 perpetrate ipv at a higher rate than gays and lesbian people of various forms so they aren't just

00:15:40.640 subject to it at higher rates they also do it at higher rates if you have a bisexual partner you

00:15:46.160 are much more likely to be abused by them than you are if you don't have a bisexual i can get like the 0.94

00:15:53.600 like mental health rates and stuff but this this this violence and abuse i don't understand do you have

00:16:00.640 any theories behind it well let's let's go to more let's go more statistics here because as the statistics

00:16:06.080 maybe you'll be able to piece these together and begin to pick out what could be causing this okay okay

00:16:11.680 yeah okay so let's look at dissolution rates for couples okay what's their probability of breaking

00:16:18.000 up okay this is within five to ten years so lesbians it's 12 to 14 that's two to three x the gay rates 0.95

00:16:26.800 and 1.5 to 2x the heterosexual rates gays it's two to 27 so very low over five to ten years right um

00:16:35.440 heterosexual it is baseline eight to 22 but with bisexuals it's 1.5 times higher so you're looking 1.00

00:16:44.560 at slightly higher than gays slightly less than lesbians if you let's look at poverty right oh 0.79

00:16:50.800 this might surprise you yeah because i would expect poverty i'm gonna say poverty is gonna be

00:16:56.640 lower among bisexuals because i would also expect bisexuality to correlate with growing up in a more

00:17:02.720 wealthy environment okay so poverty for gay and lesbians it's 14 is a higher number and this is

00:17:11.440 for lesbians okay for bisexuals it's 30 what why and it's at two for for buys it's at two to four x the

00:17:25.040 hetero rate why that's so weird because i just like i i typically associate poverty with being in like

00:17:32.000 more rural more conservative areas especially in the united states and you're just less likely to

00:17:36.880 see people who are exposed to culture that presents being by as an option you know it's the same with

00:17:43.680 snap assistance you're much more likely to be on snap assistance if you're buying what that's so weird

00:17:49.600 okay you see i told you this this is getting weird right yes it is

00:17:53.200 you don't think this rabbit hole would get this weird but it gets there's something going on with

00:18:00.240 bi people yes all right so let's look at the brfs analysis okay so we've got a sexual orientation here

00:18:10.320 and we are looking at

00:18:15.280 yeah so this is substance abuse okay okay let's look at oh yeah substance abuse disorder or something

00:18:21.920 yeah okay yeah yeah oh substance use disorder sud yeah that makes sense now okay okay so for women 0.91

00:18:29.680 for straight women it's 13.8 for lesbians it's 26.5 for bisexual women it's 32.2 so they'll get men 1.00

00:18:40.480 for straight men it's 20.7 for gay men at 32.2 for bisexual men it's 32.4 not chopping the part chart

00:18:50.320 as much but still chopping the chart across the patterns holding yeah okay let's look at alcohol

00:18:56.080 specifically okay okay is this gonna is this gonna buck our trend here heterosexual women 9.1 0.99

00:19:02.640 lesbians 15.9 bisexual women 17.3 not bucking the trend okay let's go over to men here right

00:19:10.720 heterosexual 13.5 gay men 18.9 so significantly higher in gay men note that bisexuals 15.7 the

00:19:19.200 first one to buck the trend okay bisexuals don't drink as much well finally 1.00

00:19:26.320 let's look at unaliving attempts okay okay so heterosexual males 0.4 percent gay males one percent

00:19:37.360 bisexual males 1.5 percent

00:19:39.600 yeah bisexual women 2.1 percent whoa the worst i would have expected because typically men are more 1.00

00:19:55.760 likely to go for it you know uh that's interesting yeah okay so let's continue here homelessness and

00:20:04.640 housing instability another chart here um lifetime rates for bisexuals it's lifetime instability 32

00:20:13.520 current homelessness in use 36 it was in gays or lesbians it's 26 to 19 again so much higher for

00:20:20.800 buys discrimination now this one was so interesting to me so interesting so what you might say in a

00:20:28.400 hypothesis could be is buys are more discriminated against than gays or lesbians because they are

00:20:34.880 discriminated against within the lgbt community as being infiltrators are not real or not you know

00:20:41.440 yeah their identity is constantly invalidated um and this is true you do see i mean you had me

00:20:46.160 saying maybe buys aren't real yeah totally totally yeah here we are perpetuating the issue explain it

00:20:51.840 right if this follows the same trend we've been seeing okay all right okay so bisexuals let's let's 1.00

00:20:59.120 see their their amount of discrimination all right so social acceptance of lgb right like do they feel

00:21:07.360 that this is within their environments all right for lesbians it's 31 with gays it's 39 with bisexuals 0.90

00:21:14.800 it's 20 what so slightly lower but not as lower as you would expect from these why is none of this

00:21:22.720 going the way i would expect out to important people with lesbians it's 71 what what does basically 1.00

00:21:31.680 it's like are you out about this to your family and friends oh okay okay okay lesbians at 71 gays at 77

00:21:39.920 bisexuals it's only 28 that makes sense well maybe they don't have to be as out 1.00

00:21:44.720 right you know like yeah you can have whatever you want to be because yeah but maybe that caught

00:21:49.840 maybe it's like having to live the lie is the bigger thing here or something okay workplace

00:21:54.880 harassment with with bisexuals it's around 66 and gays it was lower than that but i don't know the

00:22:02.080 exact numbers that makes sense i actually am in in the middle i just started reading a book called

00:22:07.200 whistleblower which is the the tell-all book because i want a silicon valley tell-all book

00:22:12.160 you love them i'm crazy about them i loved bad blood i loved burned book by kara swisher i i really

00:22:19.600 enjoyed careless people by sarah whatever her name is about facebook and now i'm on whistleblower and

00:22:26.400 this is by a female employee at uber and guess what already like right at the beginning she just drops 1.00

00:22:33.040 it she's bisexual totally not relevant as far as i'm concerned so far i don't know why she had to bring 1.00

00:22:37.920 it up but yeah like she's bisexual and she's all of these whistleblower books are like ultra urban 1.00

00:22:42.400 monoculture people trying to infiltrate organizations that aren't urban monoculture and it's their

00:22:48.000 struggles to force the organization that's what the facebook one was yeah i don't know i i don't

00:22:53.200 i don't think the person who like so far the person who wrote this uber book while bisexual is not coming 0.73

00:23:00.320 across as super urban monocle i mean i guess she is because her entire while she came from a hyper 0.93

00:23:06.560 religious family of five that grew up in a severe poverty her entire aspirational youth like young

00:23:14.320 adulthood was oriented around entering the university system and navigating it so she basically got i guess

00:23:21.600 urban monocultrified within that part of her life arguably but yeah i mean it is notable that she's

00:23:28.640 a harassed whistleblower and also very superfluously or gratuitously bisexual like i don't know like 0.80

00:23:39.440 most people don't like start out books of like you know i i don't i wouldn't start my biography being

00:23:44.800 like you know i this is what it's not even about you being at a company right like you your day job

00:23:52.640 yeah and you started with let me tell you what i do with my vagina well and also but like you you can be 1.00

00:23:58.400 sexually harassed and be gay straight bi lesbian or asexual or trans like it doesn't really matter 0.99

00:24:06.480 you know like it doesn't matter what your orientation is what matters is what other people did to you so 0.84

00:24:10.880 yeah i i did find that notable it's interesting anyway carry on anyway so to continue here let's

00:24:18.240 look at social isolation between these communities oh because you know we were talking about well maybe

00:24:23.200 they're more discriminated against maybe they're more like less out there yeah and so with men for

00:24:28.640 straight 10.2 percent gays 15.4 percent and then bisexual it's 18.7 so slightly higher but not enough 0.97

00:24:39.200 to explain the other results with women for heterosexual it's 12.1 percent for lesbian it's 16.8 percent

00:24:47.280 and for bisexual it's 19.5 percent i don't get it being bisexual is strictly a privilege again you're

00:24:54.400 the altering or socially isolated if you're bisexual yeah you have like you you've double the options of

00:25:00.720 everyone else i don't i'm so confused so confused double the options people i love the way you look at

00:25:09.040 things you have double the options yeah i mean i i i should be the the the most right like if if i grew

00:25:18.480 up as is asexual gay for malcolm like i don't know what what is it supposed to be like heteroromantic i 0.95

00:25:26.080 can't remember what whatever but like you'd think asexuals are they're going to be the most miserable 1.00

00:25:30.800 right because they have the fewest options or something by people this is so confusing no i want answers 0.84

00:25:37.760 malcolm give me what answers well we're going to make it even more confusing here no what is wrong

00:25:42.320 with just if so okay go on go on so again you look at some of this recent data and you might be moving

00:25:49.440 towards the well maybe bisexuals just get it in their head that they're more discriminated right yeah and

00:25:57.440 that leads to all of these downstream effects i mean so many of the mental issues that we've discussed

00:26:02.400 throughout this podcast throughout our relationship throughout whatever yeah really does have to do

00:26:07.200 with contextualization if you see yourself as a victim or if you even even with really harmless

00:26:12.000 non-polarizing things like sleep poor sleep people who believe they've slept poorly experience more

00:26:18.400 symptoms than people who think that they've slept well report having slept well but per a sleep lab

00:26:23.280 analysis sleep poorly so believing you have a problem it can be way worse than actually having a problem

00:26:29.920 even if it's you know something is on yeah mental health so we've got a hypothesis yeah okay now we've got a

00:26:36.640 study here the national probability survey from 2019 of 100 sorry 1617 lgbt adults okay decent sample size

00:26:44.800 okay great yeah okay so microaggressions and offensive comments all right gay men 57 experience it

00:26:54.560 gay women 55 experience it bisexual men 50 experience it bisexual women 48 experience it

00:27:03.760 but so if you're out 68 i can't even think of like a slur or insult or discrimination i've heard

00:27:13.600 against by people well me saying that i don't think they're real is probably one of the most common

00:27:19.200 be like oh you're just in the closet when are you going to come out of the closet that's a common one

00:27:22.720 i don't know is that is that discrimination anyway okay well let's go to slurs okay what's a slur for

00:27:32.640 a bisexual person which is the thing i don't know one this could be it this could be why they don't

00:27:37.280 get into insult as much but for gay men it's 62 percent lesbian women is 58 percent bisexual men is 55

00:27:42.640 bisexual women is 52 i know but i know words that are not nice for gays and lesbians and straight 0.72

00:27:50.480 people but what's a word that's not nice for people a butt trader let's see i'm gonna ask google because 0.98

00:27:57.040 i want to know what are slurs for bisexuals yeah okay me too hit and by slut what i've never heard that 0.98

00:28:06.560 before lesbian forum words unicorns that's considered a it's a compliment yeah by hat by hat oh like 1.00

00:28:21.200 by hat by slut switch hitter acdc straight gay confused sitter in a phase actually gay oh i like i like 0.99

00:28:32.960 actually gay actually gay actually gay yeah other other regional or informal informal slurs or phrases 0.98

00:28:41.600 sometimes language specific such as toothpick oh toothpick in portuguese meaning used by both sides 0.96

00:28:50.160 that's fun it in a phase in a phase he's in a phase no but i think that this shows that a lot of the gay 0.87

00:28:59.200 community doesn't believe that my people are by right by males by yeah okay okay so it's it's only

00:29:04.880 a slur insofar as someone is is questioning the that your commitment or like the legitimacy of your

00:29:14.320 but yeah okay wow but i just i don't know like comparing that to the slurs of other

00:29:19.840 affiliations all right fine guys you guys get really easily offended okay let's go to the

00:29:25.040 the keep in mind that these people are also very mentally frail so i guess let's go to sexual 0.94

00:29:30.320 harassment okay okay gay men 54 gay women 50 by men 48 so lower uh by women 50 so the same as lesbians 0.94

00:29:39.760 transgender 72 i really doubt transgender people are being more sexually harassed i think that they

00:29:45.520 just every time every time you're you're misgendered you're arguably being sexually harassed so

00:29:50.960 if you're not passing and so many people i feel i would feel sexually harassed if a trans person 0.98

00:29:58.320 took it upon themselves to feel sexually harassed by me for misgendering them well i also so here's

00:30:03.280 the thing like if you're trans too i feel like no matter how either insulting or accommodating someone's

00:30:09.760 trying to be you could arguably be sexually harassed keep in mind like let's say i'm trying to pass as a

00:30:15.680 woman and i'm a trans woman so let's say someone's trying to be really nice oh you look so sexy today 0.96

00:30:21.360 like oh your tits look great right because they're trying to like affirm your transition but then 1.00

00:30:27.040 they're sexually harassing you as a woman but if someone misgenders you like sir would you please 0.99

00:30:32.880 and then then they're harassing you because they're not affirming your gender so no matter what someone

00:30:38.080 always the victim yeah then then you're gonna be sexually harassed so i can understand the trans thing but 0.71

00:30:43.680 bi because also like the number of people who were out as bi is so low how can people even know to

00:30:52.400 insult you i don't know i don't know enough to to make you feel bad even if i wanted to i wouldn't know

00:31:02.480 i'm so stressed violence and threats we get 53 percent for gay men 49 for gay women 47 for bisexual 0.86

00:31:13.440 men 48 for bisexual women 75 for trans so again about the same across the board here okay yeah

00:31:20.000 harassment that's not 28 for gay men 30 for gay women really do that many gay women get bathroom 0.87

00:31:26.960 harassed that doesn't sound like something straight girls would do i think i think we're gay women 0.97

00:31:30.800 feel threatened and stuff is like men gooning you know like i want to watch you bathroom harassment

00:31:38.240 i don't know malcolm then bisexual men is only 25 bisexual women is 27 it's like way lower here

00:31:47.840 and then transgender all is 65 so i'm gonna stop right here for this one so that we have enough 0.90

00:31:52.560 time for dinner because i realized that this is going on a bit longer than i thought because there's

00:31:56.800 so many stats to go over because oh my god what's going on what is going on and you might want to do some

00:32:04.400 extra research yourself if you're coming up with any hypotheses on these in between the filmings yeah

00:32:08.160 i guess yeah so so this is end of part one of this episode at least for our recording we're going to try

00:32:13.840 to figure out some answers and we'll get back to you with a little spider no not spider-man batman

00:32:18.960 interstitial you did yeah did you did you watch the old the live action batman i've like seen clips of

00:32:26.400 it but you need to actually watch the real live action batman it is watching this i don't know

00:32:34.320 where i watched it actually because i watched it when i was a kid like on tv but the dude was a little

00:32:39.920 tubby like it was great because he wasn't actually very toned at all he's just tubby every guy beating

00:32:47.520 up criminals welcome to dunbar's batman and robin what will it be today i am a little hungry of course

00:32:54.640 robin even crime fighters must eat and especially you you're a growing boy and you need your nutrition

00:33:01.680 hamburgers medium rare may i recommend bat burgers bat burgers there's not even a lot of it's just bam 0.97

00:33:11.680 like it's more like the sound effects that that harm the the criminals and stuff but he's like tubby and

00:33:17.760 just wearing slightly stretchy i can only imagine like that slightly tubby he is a little tubby i've seen it

00:33:22.720 and he pulls like a thing off his belt and he throws it at the guy and i can just imagine in

00:33:28.720 real life it just like smacks the guy in the head and they're like ow it's so good it's so good and

00:33:35.600 also like the bat phone has this really distinctive sound that was used in a lot of electronics of the

00:33:40.080 period it sounded exactly like my mom's alarm clock so then after after that like every time my mom tried

00:33:49.840 to wake up i'm like it's the bat phone oh my god so there's just so many things about that show but

00:33:55.440 yeah you are a great wife a great mom i really appreciate it hey i really appreciate you i'm so

00:34:03.840 gay for you or i'm so bi for you i don't know what i am for you but i'm you're pushing the buttons i have 0.85

00:34:10.160 i don't know what they are store today looking for fish sauce and i couldn't find any so what store did 0.99

00:34:17.680 you go to oh you went to redner's yeah because i was picking up beer anyway so it's like i'll check

00:34:22.640 to see if they fish i need to get rice cakes we should we should have asked you but we can what

00:34:26.640 i might do is add a bit of chili oil when you're reheating it no you know i tried a little bit and

00:34:32.160 i thought any more fish sauce would have ruined it so i was glad i was short on it are you sure you

00:34:36.400 could really taste the fish sauce right yeah so when i saute it tonight for your rice i'm gonna put in

00:34:40.880 some chili oil i think that would be great it could use a little more kick but i would not put in more

00:34:45.760 fish sauce if i were you i think it's perfect on the soy sauce i think it's great on everything

00:34:50.000 else it just needs a little kick yeah maybe a bit more pepper is it feels very under spiced for a

00:34:57.280 dish that's supposed to be very spicy i well i think if i saute it in chili oil it'll do the trick

00:35:01.840 they'll do the trick okay and what else would i ask for no nothing else over rice people often

00:35:08.800 eat this with fried egg but that seems like a lot to make no i can do a fried egg for you on top

00:35:13.600 god why not dude nice and like you got the coop i'll give you an egg from stalin in honor of the

00:35:20.320 nick fuentes week we've had yeah okay i cannot believe tucker carlson did not push back when

00:35:26.480 he's like well it was a meaningful day for me because i love stalin so much yeah maybe he said

00:35:31.520 he was going to come back to that but he never did and i'm like come on like you don't you don't let

00:35:36.000 someone get by with like i think he also said he liked hitler and tucker carlson never like pulled on

00:35:40.400 that like i mean everyone acknowledges like the hitler stuff but like stalin i mean because

00:35:48.720 it here's the thing if you're this is what i'm saying tucker carlson's a cia asset i guess if you're

00:35:53.920 a holocaust denier and you don't actually think that like there was a holocaust then maybe hitler

00:35:58.720 wasn't that bad of a guy so like in that universe yeah i i was the one who explained this year i was

00:36:03.760 like yeah it's not so bad if you didn't actually do it if the cookies couldn't have been if that many

00:36:08.960 cookies couldn't have been baked right but but stalin he's not questioning what stalin did and 0.91

00:36:14.640 he just thinks he's great well no here's the thing i don't get it was a pedophile and kind of a pagan 0.89

00:36:21.600 it's like well he was also really cool so you know time to grow up we're not we're not children

00:36:29.360 anymore am i right am i right am i right boys am i right let's go so he thinks hitler is great like

00:36:37.680 there's this one where he goes you know hitler was sort of into like pagany stuff and hitler was

00:36:42.560 sort of into like i think gay stuff or something and then he's like but you know he was still really

00:36:48.480 cool and i'm like well here's the thing why do you think hitler was cool if you don't believe the

00:36:53.920 holocaust happens universe though it's like both the holocaust didn't happen and hitler was gay 0.88

00:36:59.520 right i i'm like why why do you think that hitler was cool if the apparent reason for you thinking he

00:37:06.960 was cool i think it's because you think that did happen just on a smaller scale like a couple hundred

00:37:10.720 thousand which for him is at a cool level of genocide yeah it was it's it's small batch processing it's a

00:37:18.000 microbrewery of genocide all right it's still hip you know it's it's the edison bulb artisan

00:37:25.200 you are so going to hell for this i i really am jokes that are inappropriate for our audience 0.94

00:37:32.480 you're artisanal genocide all right i gotta go get the kids and change a really creepy type 0.97

00:37:39.120 i love you so much i'm welcome i might have i might have enjoyed digging into saran mandani more

00:37:44.000 than nick fuentes to be honest yeah that was fascinating because you really want to know

00:37:48.400 more about those bisexuals and what the heck is going on here yeah and i've i've been thinking 0.52

00:37:54.000 about it and i'm no closer to an answer i i really there because there are some conflicting things in

00:37:59.520 here that don't make sense to me so i want to hear some more evidence i want to maybe with more

00:38:05.200 information i'll come to more of a conclusion maybe with more points for triangulation yes we'll find

00:38:11.680 out what is wrong with the bisexuals we must triangulate the the problem but it is it is 1.00

00:38:18.400 it is fascinating so okay so i decided to be like okay like let's look at other things like you know

00:38:24.960 conscientiousness and stuff like that i was like maybe what it is is this is going to correlate with

00:38:30.000 some personality trait and everything's going to make sense right yeah so i decided to go to

00:38:36.320 conscientiousness as a personality trait right so if you look at men heterosexuals they're at 33 to 35 on

00:38:44.960 this if you look at men gay they're at 31 to 33 on this so about the same and if you look at bisexuals

00:38:51.600 they're at 30 to 32 on this so they're a little lower so so basically gay men are a little less

00:38:57.440 conscientious than straight men and bisexual men are a little less conscientious than gay men 0.99

00:39:01.600 you'd be more conscientious i mean think about how much effort they have to put in just to looking

00:39:07.440 good to other men i know right it is interesting right yeah okay so with women we get for straight 1.00

00:39:13.600 women at 34 to 36 for gay women 34 to 36 so exactly the same consciousness levels for bisexual women it's

00:39:21.840 lower 32 to 34. so it is still following this pattern of bisexuals being the outlier but not in like

00:39:30.720 as big a way as you would think right right yeah and also like what if that's just downstream or

00:39:38.720 highly correlated with mental health problems which we've also already right so then there's you know

00:39:45.280 me coming in here and you know my answer is always going to be it must be that they're more urban

00:39:49.760 monoculture infected than other populations because bisexual is an identity that fundamentally you can choose 0.96

00:39:57.280 yeah well gay and maybe lesbian are less choices of identity sometimes because if you are like 0.99

00:40:04.240 genuinely attracted to both genders you can just choose to ignore one right like so i thought well 0.99

00:40:10.320 then maybe that means that these people are more urban monoculture cooked than other populations right

00:40:17.280 that would make sense but but then actually but here's the problem okay um so

00:40:22.160 what would you be a good proxy for that right a good proxy how they vote oh okay so let's hear look

00:40:32.400 at voting patterns right so what percent lean left versus what percent lean right okay straight men 40

00:40:41.120 40 to 45 left leaning 50 to 55 right leaning okay gay men and this must have been for a while ago

00:40:48.080 because i know it's moved pretty big since then but back then and this is around when all of these

00:40:53.040 other data points were collected it was around 70 to 80 percent democrat 15 to 20 republican but if you

00:40:59.280 look at by men they're more republican 60 to 70 percent liberal democrat leaning 25 to 30 percent republican

00:41:07.600 leaning so they seem to be less captured by the urban monoculture than the gay male population

00:41:13.040 let's look at women here with women it's 50 to 55 percent democrat liberal leaning to 40 to 45 percent 1.00

00:41:20.720 right leaning this is of straight women but then when we go to gay women it's 80 to 85 percent

00:41:25.760 democrat 10 to 15 percent republican you go to buy women it's 65 to 75 percent democrat 20 to 25

00:41:33.760 republican so they're more republican by women and men by dramatic margin rising okay 0.99

00:41:43.520 let's go to mental health issues but break it down by type of mental health issue maybe this will have

00:41:49.040 the answer for us right so let's look at just women here to start lifetime mood disorders so for straight 1.00

00:41:57.120 women that's 30.5 percent for lesbians that's 44.4 percent so more in lesbians but then in bi women 1.00

00:42:04.080 it's 58.7 lifetime anxiety disorders straight 31 percent gay 40 percent by 57 so again we're seeing 0.85

00:42:15.440 the same pattern buys off the charts on everything here depression for buys for lesbian and straight 1.00

00:42:21.040 women it's about the same for buys is about 2x the rate unaliving chances three to five percent for 1.00

00:42:26.800 straight women 25 for gay women 40 for bi women 0.54

00:42:33.600 bi women are just off the charts okay substance use 8.5 for straight women 20 for gay women 25 for 1.00

00:42:41.280 bi women psychological distress they found it in it i think it was 72 percent higher it's difficult to

00:42:47.760 tell what study this is from in bi women than straight and gay women and if we're looking at males here

00:42:53.280 here here is where we see a bit different of a pattern than we've seen before okay so yeah

00:42:58.800 mood disorders you see 19.8 in straight men 42.3 percent in gay men so way higher than in gay women 0.96

00:43:05.520 mind you and 36.9 percent in bi men lifetime anxiety disorders 18 in straight men 41 in gay men 38.7

00:43:15.920 and by men so again down in by men and then the substance well that's yeah these studies seem to

00:43:22.720 be less distinct okay so that's where we are that's all the data can you can you piece anything from that

00:43:30.160 i feel like i'm just more confused than i was before and i i do realize that the first one i was

00:43:35.120 looking at here this was neuroticism so what it is is for heterosexual men 15 to 20 on whatever scale

00:43:43.520 they're using for gays 25 to 35 for buys it's 30 to 44 so slightly higher neuroticism yeah for women 0.62

00:43:50.480 it was 18 to 22 there was no significant difference in gay women uh but it was higher slightly for oh 0.96

00:43:57.280 no actually that could be pretty big uh 20 to 40 for bi women so it could be higher neuroticism levels 1.00

00:44:06.080 maybe i mean there there's so many ways in which they're outliers so i don't i i can't chalk it up

00:44:13.440 to neuroticism i mean all these things correlate too like you would expect these things to correlate

00:44:18.240 so i don't find i don't find it surprising that if they have higher levels of depression that you're

00:44:23.680 going to see higher levels of neuroticism or higher levels of perceived discrimination for

00:44:28.960 example summon ayla to the podcast to answer this question is she going to have an answer of

00:44:34.240 what's wrong with bi women bi men too yeah what's going on yeah maybe maybe i can ask ai to summarize

00:44:45.280 what ayla has said on what makes bi people different yeah because this is i i don't i don't know if she's

00:44:52.640 answered this particular question yet but it is a pernicious question like the for the mystery

00:44:57.440 fertility strip we did an episode on if you haven't seen that episode you should watch it if you like this

00:45:01.200 one it was pretty weird there's like a strip down the center of america that has like stupidly high

00:45:05.200 fertility rates and there's not an obvious reason why yeah overlapping maps with it to try to figure

00:45:11.600 out what map best overlaps to this weird strip in the middle of the united states so according to her

00:45:17.280 writing that is ayla's writing bisexual individuals especially women exhibit distinct patterns of 0.70

00:45:22.960 attraction compared to both straight and exclusively gay individuals she notes that women display a more

00:45:29.680 polarized arousal spectrum with bisexual women often demonstrating upticks at both the lesbian and

00:45:35.920 straight ads suggesting more flexibility or more switchiness in sexual orientation compared to men

00:45:41.520 ayla also highlights attitudes toward bdsm are defining characteristic noting that people with

00:45:47.280 preferences for bdsm sometimes termed bdsm bisexuality or bdsm actuality form a very distinct

00:45:55.920 cluster not always related to trauma but instead corresponding with how arousal intimacy and

00:46:02.480 relationship preferences manifest she suggests that some bisexual or queer individuals

00:46:08.560 report a transformation in their sex drive and enjoyment when engaging in kink relationships which 0.96

00:46:13.600 may not happen with more vanilla sex for these people okay i didn't fully grok what she was saying

00:46:19.280 when simone said this live but it makes sense to me now in editing and it's actually a very insightful

00:46:23.920 point that only ayla would have because she has all the data basically she's saying that bisexuality 1.00

00:46:29.360 has a really high overlap with having an extreme amount of severe kinks that you want to engage in 1.00

00:46:36.080 in real life with other people and that this may lead to well and then obviously i'm saying here ayla

00:46:41.760 isn't saying this here that this may lead to the negative effects of bisexuality on individuals

00:46:46.400 sexual satisfaction appears strongly connected to the mode of sexual expression

00:46:51.200 rather than only the gender of the partner but see that's more just female sexual arousal yeah 0.88

00:46:56.480 this doesn't explain why bisexuals are off the charts and everything here 1.00

00:47:00.960 yeah in in community commentary on her data contributors proposed that birth order and

00:47:06.640 family dynamics may influence homosexuality or homosexual and bisexual development with

00:47:12.000 submissions indicating environmental and genetic factors again that that has nothing to do with this

00:47:17.280 so no ayla doesn't at least according to ai the reason i wanted to call aila in on it is i think

00:47:22.640 she'd find the problem interesting yeah a problem that no one has really tackled like no one has called

00:47:28.480 out some because everybody always is using this data to talk about something else and so the weird bisexual 1.00

00:47:34.720 outlier always gets blown off yeah but i think when you really pull it all together you're like there's

00:47:40.080 something going on with bisexuals there needs to be like an ayla bat phone just like the red phone 1.00

00:47:45.600 an ayla bat phone what's going on with the bisexual ringtone of the ayla bat phone we have to figure that

00:47:51.440 one out but it's it's a fascinating statistical phenomenon yes that my go-to answer it's because

00:47:58.960 they're more politically cooked just doesn't seem to fit the data no so i don't know and also it doesn't

00:48:05.520 you would think theoretically that it would just be a strict benefit perhaps i mean one theory that i i

00:48:12.800 can posit at least in today's day and age because most of these statistics are from fairly recent

00:48:19.360 polling is that we live in an era of choose a camp like you need to be in a category and bisexuality

00:48:28.160 just really hasn't established a very strong identity as a unique identity in the oppression

00:48:36.320 olympics in any sort of realm and maybe that's because among different sexual orientations it

00:48:42.960 actually comes from from a position of technical privilege even if it is not discussed as such

00:48:49.200 because you actually have more optionality than any group even sis i i just had an idea and i'm going

00:48:55.920 to check it i want to see bisexuals are maybe having a are much more promiscuous could be because 1.00

00:49:01.680 this could explain it but but but in general because bisexual people both are actually kind of

00:49:08.320 privileged technically and because they don't really oh we might have found it here wait okay so they're

00:49:14.720 more okay so bisexual men those who have sex with those women have more sexual partners per year than 0.85

00:49:22.160 either gay or straight men suggesting about 2.5 to 3.1 more partners annually whoa compared to gay 0.94

00:49:30.400 men which is 2.6 partners in terms of sexual activities like cyber sex sexting threesomes

00:49:36.160 both bisexual and gay men report higher engagement in those behaviors and straight men bisexuals versus

00:49:41.040 straight lesbian women bisexual women show broader engagement in varied sexual behaviors uh fellow 0.74

00:49:46.000 masturbation cyber sex sexting threesomes compared to heterosexual women and often at similar rates 0.98

00:49:52.560 to lesbian women bisexual women however report a slightly lower rate of orgasms compared to both 0.94

00:49:58.160 straight and lesbian women 58 for bisexuals 61.6 for straights and 74.4 for lesbians in one study

00:50:06.400 isn't that fascinating that they're getting off less than either straight women or lesbians so it's not a 0.99

00:50:11.600 hurting her it's the men problem it's a it's a them problem lesbian women typically report the 1.00

00:50:17.040 most sexual satisfaction however yeah when they do have the highest rates of orgasm the frequency of 0.99

00:50:22.560 partnered sex can be lower for lesbian couples and for straight couples okay blah blah blah blah blah 0.90

00:50:26.800 in the first two years of a relationship 67 of gay male male couples have sex three times a week

00:50:32.960 45 of straight couples do and 33 of lesbian couples do that is fascinating it could be it could be a frequency of

00:50:39.840 sex issue that having more sex leads to all these bad things yeah yeah i could see that

00:50:47.440 especially if this was multiple partners because your body could release like hyper stress responses

00:50:52.800 if you're a woman and you're doing this and if you're a man and you're doing it especially you're

00:50:57.600 doing it in a submissive position which i think is probably more likely for a lot of bisexual men that

00:51:01.520 could also cause weird stress responses well but also to your point like in any culture that maximizes

00:51:07.280 hedonism you're it's almost a guarantee of misery when when you try to pursue that so perhaps

00:51:15.840 this is also correlated or downstream of of hedonism maxing and that ultimately moving people more

00:51:23.360 quickly toward the realization that they're never going to get the pleasure they seek even though

00:51:26.960 they're seeking it more desperately than others which means the sex doesn't actually give you like

00:51:31.680 any sort of meaningful lasting pleasure correct that's interesting i don't know if i buy that

00:51:39.680 maybe that's just because i'm reading whistleblower right now and the author is by and she's a

00:51:43.120 completely miserable person but she didn't seem to necessarily spend most of of her life she fits the

00:51:50.960 she comes off you were just she's miserable but she's not more promiscuous you had a b session about 0.96

00:51:55.600 her for like 20 minutes this morning my wife doesn't go to an office to complain to me about 1.00

00:52:00.240 other women she reads whistleblower books by progressives about their silicon valley jobs 0.97

00:52:05.200 and then every morning ideal was a session of her being like oh can you believe she did this this and

00:52:11.920 this oh i'm so glad i'm not her oh she complained about her boss being patron the patriarchy i i i love

00:52:20.560 this i love this this is this is me sending you to work so i can have you do i

00:52:28.320 do i do that about anyone i guess ellie icer is the only person who's like oh yeah annoying you do 1.00

00:52:35.760 that you absolutely do that but yeah i mean she isn't necessarily more promiscuous so i'm not 100

00:52:42.080 sure i'm by that but i could i could see that and i find that very but then but then again like

00:52:48.320 you would assume also that increased sluttiness with court would correlate with more political

00:52:54.160 progressiveness and it doesn't um i mean it doesn't have to i mean there's lots of perfectly

00:53:01.680 slutty conservatives by communities i don't know you know whatever but like this is for our one thing

00:53:06.960 that i am thinking about though is remember in the times when we've participated in group events like

00:53:12.400 at vibe camp and at less wrong it when a list did the lineups by body count where she had every

00:53:22.800 member of the audience line themselves up by the number of sexual partners they'd had in their

00:53:26.960 lifetime so you go from people who are virgins like at one end of the line and to people who have

00:53:32.400 the highest body count at the other end invariably you are always at the end of the line i mean not the

00:53:37.440 the final end end but at the end you are the only cis straight dude it was all dudes at the end it was

00:53:44.160 all dudes at the end but most but they were all by why they were no they weren't they weren't gay they 0.85

00:53:49.120 were bikes i talked with them because i'm like why okay so yeah so all these guys who are okay so

00:53:54.880 this requires a bit more explanation so ayla at her events and we've gone to a number of her events she

00:53:59.440 has this shtick she does which i love it it's fun or she lines everybody up by body count 0.98

00:54:04.400 and simone's always at one end because she's only slept with me and i'm always at the other end 0.99

00:54:08.960 because we haven't mentioned this on the show but recently like we did a lot in the early show and

00:54:12.800 people used to comment like malcolm bringing it up again but when i was like a teenager not a teenager 0.99

00:54:18.560 i'm talking like college high school you were a slut you were a slut there's no other way to put it 1.00

00:54:23.680 i was like in the the triple digits like well into the triple digits and what i realized is that my level 0.99

00:54:29.600 of sluttiness is almost unheard of in straight males potentially because it's just so hard to

00:54:36.320 achieve yeah i will say that many women to sleep with you it's not worth it it's not fun you find 0.99

00:54:43.280 nothing at the other end of it you know and it's risky i mean every time you sleep especially today

00:54:50.160 getting somebody pregnant or something which you know

00:54:52.320 yeah very dangerous however yeah i i i would win when going to these events of course i want to like

00:55:02.000 understand what's going on with people who are at these outlier ends and it's easy enough to know

00:55:07.040 what's going on with incels but it is something that you wonder about with the people at the very

00:55:12.560 high body count end and yeah they were i remember them like distinctly because at first i was like well

00:55:17.920 they must be gay dudes no they were bi because i remember that really standing out to me when i

00:55:22.560 when i talked with them and and so that like very much part of like sort of the group sex world of 0.97

00:55:28.960 the bay area if you know what i mean like orgies a good example of this is like destiny

00:55:33.600 destiny seems like he probably sleeps around in time maybe but also like think about this if

00:55:37.600 you regularly go to orgies i think it's really easy to get a high body count especially if you are

00:55:41.920 bi oh true yeah that's gonna mess with your brain as well you know you know no guy wants to see 1.00

00:55:47.920 another girl guy having sex with a girl apparently no not can do you know how big cock porn is it's 1.00

00:55:54.240 huge oh yeah you're right we should do an episode on that by the way yeah we probably should it's just 0.99

00:55:58.800 i don't know it's so dark i don't know it strikes me as very dark i don't know if i want to know more

00:56:02.320 about it but we probably should top search term in japan or something not no dude no like

00:56:08.080 like globally i think it's it's astoundingly popular which really confuses me because it's like

00:56:15.200 the nightmare scenario genetically speaking for men like that's why i don't explain this to you

00:56:20.720 that you've got to keep in mind that cock porn is not just for men who get off oh right it can be for 0.95

00:56:29.040 men who get off on the idea of being the what do they call them the bull the bull yes i was gonna say 0.99

00:56:35.360 stud yeah yeah yeah but anyway yeah so that that i guess the the sluttiness hypothesis of bisexuals 0.99

00:56:44.000 is is gonna be our running theory for now please chime into the comments with your theories you too

00:56:49.600 have listened in to this this this deluge of stats maybe you have a better synthesis than we do yeah i i

00:56:56.880 feel like people and if you come up with a good enough theory we'll do an episode on it

00:56:59.920 oh yeah i like that i'm yeah because i still i don't feel completely satisfied with this but the

00:57:05.760 aila lineup experience does reinforce it so anecdotally i feel like there's some confirmation there

00:57:12.000 all right thanks malcolm this has been elucidating i love you love you too and when i will point out

00:57:17.840 that back when i slept around a lot remember i was in a much worse mental state like i i ground my

00:57:22.560 teeth i had to wear like a night guard every night that's true yeah i was in a lot more daily stress

00:57:29.280 and then when you when you went monogamous you were actually able to get rid of the night guard

00:57:33.760 without completely ruining your teeth yeah no i haven't worn a night guard in years and i would break my

00:57:39.680 teeth if i didn't wear it even one night back then yeah i remember i remember the night guard you had

00:57:44.000 to bring it with you and you slept over at my my little apartment my little so i could be evidence here

00:57:52.960 oh okay well good i'm i feel more sad i was really worried we're going to come out of

00:57:57.440 this episode unsatisfied thank you for that all right love you bye love you too all right i i think i said

00:58:22.560 hello

00:58:40.960 you

Based Camp - November 07, 2025

The Curse of Bisexuality： Worse Than Being Gay Across Stats ... But WHY？？？

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