Based Camp - The Data： Was Racism Stoked By Corpos To Distract from Occupy Wall Street？

00:00:00.000 Asmongold presented his conspiracy timeline starting with 2005 racism basically defeated 0.98

00:00:05.320 but what about all these corpos occupy well street then 2014 look at that black person if you look 0.53

00:00:11.620 for example at my god terms like identity politics intersectionality black feminism

00:00:16.020 non-binary lived experience it's like it's like exact it's a little uncanny it's a little weird

00:00:22.300 i made a graph of the southern poverty law center what here we have the hrc funding graph again

00:00:31.520 something you know you you see the normal like oh my god it's so obvious here

00:00:38.100 surely they're not in on the conspiracy surely nothing happens oh my god glad is it what and

00:00:45.980 this is all from their their tax filings this isn't just like conjecture cnt huh others

00:00:51.620 Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, McDonald's, Walmart, Hyundai, UPS, FedEx, Coca-Cola,

00:00:59.960 Eli Lilly, the Ford Foundation, the Kellogg Foundation, the Robert Ward Johnson Foundation.

00:01:07.440 I wonder if it affects the behavior of the children.

00:01:10.240 Hmm, curious.

00:01:11.860 Would you like to know more?

00:01:14.040 Hello, Malcolm.

00:01:15.220 I'm excited to be speaking with you today because I heard a new conspiracy theory that

00:01:19.660 i really like and i wanted to see if there's good evidence behind it so let's go on a youtube clip

00:01:25.720 of asmongold's stream titled i brought this to you by the way i i brought it like i actually

00:01:30.960 think there could be something to this yeah this was again alex jones was right he he asmongold

00:01:38.020 went over the southern poverty law center's support of racist groups and then presented

00:01:42.280 his conspiracy timeline regarding racism in the usa and it basically goes like this he titled it

00:01:48.380 the asmongold american history conspiracy timeline starting with 2005 racism basically defeated

00:01:54.360 everyone is getting along generally then 2011 lives improved but what about all these corpos 0.96

00:02:00.040 occupy well street then 2014 look at that black person they took your future then 2025 omg the 1.00

00:02:07.280 jews and i hadn't heard about it before but it sounds credible like that basically the racism 0.96

00:02:14.480 and identity politics of our recent era are the product of some astroturfed work done by

00:02:21.440 corpos because they don't like the idea of people really being against them yeah so basically and

00:02:27.500 i'll trade a frame it a bit more tightly yeah as my gold thesis is we solved most of the issues of

00:02:34.120 social discord within american society and as a result people then begin to look with suspicion

00:02:41.520 at the corpos. And here I'm not talking about generic capitalism or something like that.

00:02:47.560 I'm talking about the entrenched bureaucratic corporate interests that rigs the system in

00:02:52.920 their favor in a very non-capitalist socialist high barrier to entry way, which is demonstrably

00:02:59.200 a part of American culture at this point. And because the social harmony that we achieved

00:03:05.880 allowed for that these people who had a lot of institutional power and keep in mind the corpos

00:03:11.980 here isn't just wall street it is the deep state that profits from wall right like the deep straight

00:03:19.360 corpo evolving door is very very tight right yeah especially within the democratic party and it used

00:03:27.080 to be within the republican party and so they say uh-oh uh-oh how do we get people to stop looking

00:03:34.440 at us now and they're like what if we invent racism and as we saw with the southern poverty

00:03:41.760 law center because as mogul said this southern poverty law center thing he's like i bet but if

00:03:46.860 you don't know this is the number one anti-racism group in the united states turned out to likely

00:03:51.040 the major the because the amount that they gave out was over three million dollars to the various

00:03:55.520 orgs and it was orgs like the nazi oregon the kkk which are not getting a lot of money from other

00:04:00.020 resources it is hard to stay employed and make millionth of dollars if you're publicly donating

00:04:04.580 to one of these institutions so they they could have been their primary funder with funding and

00:04:09.300 and why do i believe that they were their primary funder potentially if you look at before occupy

00:04:15.380 wall street if you look at videos of clan rallies from that time or neo-nazi rallies in the united

00:04:19.980 states it would be like three sad people walking with a bunch of people yelling at them yeah now

00:04:24.860 you get like full-on tiki torch parades and stuff like that like there there has been a demonstrable

00:04:30.200 change in the size yeah who's gonna pay for the tiki torches who's gonna pay for the the matching

00:04:35.100 khaki pants yeah they're nice the change in the size of these operations since the southern

00:04:42.600 poverty law center started funding them um and so but the question is who else is funding them

00:04:47.420 how much else are they funding them and simone came back to me and she goes malcolm i think i

00:04:52.480 found some smoking guns here so i want you to go further i want you to expand the genius asthma

00:04:58.160 gold theory on all of this oh yeah yeah i i went and i checked to see how the theory tracks with

00:05:04.400 keyword search volume and changes in police training programs and engram word volume in books

00:05:09.380 and reported hate crime data and polling data and fundraising data for the top identity politics

00:05:14.580 or and versus poll or occupy wall street and versus just general like environmental orgs and

00:05:20.260 it is so suspicious okay well most non-profit fundraising curves just to like give a little

00:05:27.040 teaser that i looked at appear to just go up mostly linearly over time like when you look at

00:05:31.680 most of the environmental orgs it goes up linearly that makes sense and then yet fundraising for

00:05:37.160 identity politics orgs like the naacp and the southern poverty law center skyrocketed after

00:05:43.580 occupy wall street like there's a very weird like so it it it's just one of many things

00:05:50.240 so first let's just look at at his his argument point by point and see how well supported each

00:05:56.400 of his arguments are because i don't know like you know my memory my memory is shot i don't know

00:06:01.200 where things actually were so in in again this four-step conspiracy timeline no before you go

00:06:07.020 further when did all of the anti-semitism begin to rise in america the anti-semitism began to rise

00:06:13.060 right as black fatigue was setting in they're like oh we need a new out group

00:06:18.240 yeah yeah well i mean we also have to eventually do a podcast on black americans being supplanted

00:06:26.420 for muslims because that's another interesting like flipperoo that happened around the time of

00:06:30.780 the oh yeah the left is really done playing with black people like yeah i'm tired i'm done 0.99

00:06:38.700 toy story where like the drops its toy i forgot you're broken i don't want to play with you 0.98

00:06:48.140 anymore

00:06:48.940 he's got the new the new toy right but hopefully we can use this on the right to unbrainwash some 0.98

00:06:59.940 black people and bring them over to our side which means stop being performatively racist 0.87

00:07:03.940 to be edgy guys that's not it's not useful okay it it it really only hurts us there are obviously 0.98

00:07:11.820 some black immigrant communities that need to that that have externalities associated with them like 0.98

00:07:17.200 the Somalian refugees and stuff like that but don't you know the one thing to be like these 1.00

00:07:23.240 black immigrant populations have negative externalities and we need to find a way to deal 1.00

00:07:27.400 with it than to just be like performatively racist or something like that which is really 0.99

00:07:32.200 only to masturbate your own ego not to help the party because it hurts. Anyway Asmongold describes 0.92

00:07:38.380 the mid-2000s as basically this time when most people of different races got along and pop

00:07:43.280 culture just normalized multiracial friendship and cooperation and he yeah he's just rush hour

00:07:48.400 three with you know jackie chan and it was chris rock right being like oh everyone's like excited

00:07:53.220 to see that and like people joke about people being of different cultural and and ethnic

00:07:59.360 backgrounds but like they were comfortable with it it wasn't this tension it was rush hour three

00:08:03.800 wasn't a story about multiculturalism it was like funny and there would you know people enjoyed that

00:08:09.940 And also society was just getting more progressive each year on race and sexuality. There was growing acceptance of gay people. We elected Barack Obama. Like, it was a thing. And he emphasized that everyday social life did feel edgy, but unserious. That people would say offensive things, like they would use racial slurs in video games, but everyone knew it wasn't real. Like, it was just teasing and trolling and basically locker room talk.

00:08:35.520 and the overall vibe was that people just joked harshly but got along and there's not meaningful

00:08:41.840 ethnic tension outside of ghettos and i really mean this in my school for example like we had

00:08:46.360 kids of different you had kids of different ethnicities in your school did anyone care yeah

00:08:50.000 nobody cared we would talk about stereotypes but that's because they were real so the we had we had

00:08:57.480 a group that we called the korean mafia because there were a bunch of korean kids at our school

00:09:00.980 or a scholarship that let them come and then there was a bunch of Chinese kids who hung out

00:09:05.880 together but other than those two groups and those two groups you know literally came from other

00:09:10.280 countries I literally remember the first time I heard someone say something racist that like

00:09:14.660 surprised me because I just never heard anything racist before and it was I was a friend in school

00:09:19.440 I can't remember what level of school I was in but her name was Yesenia and she came from like

00:09:22.980 a Spanish-speaking household and she was telling me how like her parents were really concerned about

00:09:28.000 brown people and I was just so like I was like what do you mean what is this about but like

00:09:32.640 that I have a memory of someone talking with me about that and like being surprised must show that

00:09:38.040 like we really didn't care at that era you know just didn't matter but yes when you check in on

00:09:43.260 hate crime in 2005 in the U.S. it was one of the lowest points for racism in U.S. history relative

00:09:49.860 to prior eras and lethal racial violence had plummeted from its peak in the late 19th early

00:09:57.280 20th century. Yeah, we had gotten to a point where blacks were mostly just killing other blacks. 0.98

00:10:02.500 Yeah, sorry, I know that's horrible. There is a difference in homicide rates, but 0.98

00:10:06.640 that is true, that blacks mostly kill other blacks while they do have an increased homicide rate. 1.00

00:10:11.880 Yeah. So studies of discrimination trends, which, you know, have been active since we've been, 0.98

00:10:17.800 like, for decades and decades, show persistence. Like, there's still discrimination,

00:10:22.200 but they were overall reductions post 1960s things had only gotten better and in 2005 there

00:10:28.920 were 7163 hate crime offenses and this was noted by the fbi as the lowest total in more than a

00:10:38.760 decade racial bias motivated about 54.7 percent of single bias incidents so this by the way

00:10:46.060 yeah continue continue i'll i want to get to the end of your thought

00:10:49.740 importantly and this is really interesting right so we're looking at at all of this crime i started

00:10:56.540 wondering if perhaps part of what made hate crime levels seem to go up had to do with police training

00:11:03.660 and okay before you get into that i wanted to go into a funny i saw this on asthma gold or

00:11:09.720 and this it looked like official data i'm going to double check because this sounds

00:11:13.760 so crazy if this is actually official data but it was tracking interracial grapes god you mentioned

00:11:21.740 this to me yes and it was black on white was something like 12 000 which i mean if you're

00:11:28.640 considering the whole country isn't a ton but it's still like a lot right like i'm sure that we get

00:11:33.400 way more from immigrants but i i know that that's the particularly prejudiced statement against

00:11:38.000 immigrants but i mean i'm pretty sure i would expect more than 12 000 but the funny number was

00:11:42.500 was white on blacks which was literally over the official data set's entire recording period for

00:11:48.360 that year zero which actually tracks that but like oh that's our video on perceived attractiveness

00:11:57.860 between groups white people uniquely see black people as unattractive and this is actually

00:12:02.520 really hard for oh that's even more insult you're just saying like well they wouldn't 0.96

00:12:06.180 because they don't want to that's well i mean it's when we point out how bad it is for blacks

00:12:13.980 in the united states we have this episode on like it being so hard for black women that if you look

00:12:17.920 at the old okcupid dating stuff that you know how bad it is for white men in online dating

00:12:24.420 it is literally harder for black women and online dating than it is for white men that is how nerfed 0.91

00:12:33.140 the black community is within dating pools in like black pill communities not named for the 0.99

00:12:38.120 black but like they go full like like incel whatever people are like bro like be white be 0.96

00:12:44.720 tall like if you're not those two things you're nerfed right like so do keep in mind that there 0.52

00:12:51.320 are some areas where white men still have privilege when it comes to being thirsted over

00:12:55.620 yeah if you're in the top one percent anyway so things hit this nadir in terms of hate crime and

00:13:03.620 everything in in 2005 and i started to wonder like okay if if this is this conspiracy is real

00:13:09.540 and if interests you know with with deep pockets and we didn't want corporations to be scrutinized

00:13:16.240 wanted to begin to foment this feeling that racism was real and that racial tensions were a big thing

00:13:24.620 in the United States, it had to be addressed and that we have to obsess over that and not look at

00:13:28.420 corporations and rich people that one thing you might do is just train or encourage training in

00:13:34.900 police departments that will lead to a higher rate of reported hate crimes. So then you with

00:13:39.860 some other nonprofit, you could point them to look at the data and report a spike in it. And

00:13:46.440 they'd be like, this is a big problem. Very clever. And it actually does turn out that

00:13:52.160 multiple times after 2012, the FBI crime data collection guidelines and training manual were

00:13:58.920 updated. Starting in December 2012, the tail end of Occupy Wall Street, they merged major guidelines

00:14:05.120 and training guides to include learning modules on bias-motivated crime definitions. There was this

00:14:10.560 two-tier review process, so you respond to officer flags that have, like, for suspected bias, and then

00:14:16.560 who have expert review of whether it actually is biased. The training included case study exercises

00:14:22.360 and model procedures for agencies to build their own training. And it was explicitly intended to

00:14:28.320 help departments establish and refresh hate crime training programs right at the end of Occupy Wall

00:14:33.460 Street. And then in 2015, there were new bias categories. So they added anti-Arab, they expanded

00:14:39.880 religious biases, and they added more training scenarios for those. And then they also updated

00:14:47.420 in 2021-2022 for this full transition to the national incident-based reporting system that

00:14:54.460 removed... I'm not going to get into it, but basically, yeah, they did train differently

00:14:59.900 after Occupy Wall Street in a way that would have led to probably more reporting, even if things

00:15:04.820 remain unchanged otherwise. And then they could utilize the higher reporting to create movements

00:15:09.800 like BLM. Yes. And then also this is, this is just, this is just the FBI. Then there's the,

00:15:15.100 the, the NIBRS, basically the department adjustment, sorry, department of justice

00:15:21.720 and the BJS. What's the BJS? I didn't look that up. Sorry. And the FBI, they provided targeted

00:15:27.540 grants and technical assistance and training to thousands of agencies to properly code

00:15:33.000 and report hate crimes in this database. So they're also like, we'll give you money to make

00:15:39.400 sure that you do this correctly which is notable I don't know where the grants came from but I could

00:15:45.700 totally see like this is a very subtle and hidden way for someone who like for example made a lot

00:15:50.240 of political donations or made sure that an appointee is leading a certain agency to put

00:15:55.720 something like this in without anything like this policy I'm looking you're not going to look bad

00:15:59.780 for doing it you know we need to hate crimes are a big serious issue you know we just need more

00:16:03.460 accurate reporting but you know how measurement works you know like if you encourage and incentivize

00:16:08.160 and give people grant money to measure something,

00:16:10.320 they're going to measure it more, you know?

00:16:12.240 And then there were also very specific targeted grants.

00:16:16.840 Like there's the Matthew Shepard

00:16:18.380 and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes

00:16:20.800 and Training Technical Assistance Program grants.

00:16:24.240 They funded specialized training resource centers

00:16:26.600 and outreach for identifying crimes and bias.

00:16:31.660 So just keep in mind that like

00:16:33.660 even specific people created grants.

00:16:36.140 And it's very interesting that there's a flurry of this right at the end of Occupy Wall Street, because there was not a flurry of attention on interracial violence right at the end of Occupy Wall Street.

00:16:47.400 No, no, no, no, no, no. I think the wheels started turning. The donations started. The training shifted. And also, just to be clear, this is in addition to state level changes. 0.57

00:16:57.840 So, for example, in 2017 onward, so this is a bit after Occupy Wall Street, there was the California Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training releasing a new video called Hate Crimes Identification and Investigation.

00:17:11.000 And then also AB57 required its inclusion in basic academy training, made it available online, mandated periodic in-service training. Other states passed similar mandates. So basically now it's just like propaganda videos. That is another way to put it.

00:17:27.840 being like, here's how to report bias. And then also, I just wanted to check in on polling,

00:17:32.780 right? So because polling is another way for us to see how Americans felt about bias. So when you

00:17:38.880 look at a Gallup satisfaction with race relations question for like, are you very satisfied? Are you

00:17:45.420 somewhat satisfied? In the early 2000s to 2014, people were very satisfied, high, basically 60%

00:17:53.340 plus marked good. And this peaked near 70% to 80% post the Obama election. Then 2015 onward,

00:18:01.600 you know, after the gears had started turning, there was this sharp drop to 30%, marking it as

00:18:07.560 good. Sharp drop. This is the lowest in decades. And this was amid the Ferguson era protests.

00:18:14.320 And then ever since it's hovered from like 22% to 36%, from its high at 60%. So Asbogold is

00:18:21.060 totally right that like people in 2005 were feeling pretty fine about race relations um and

00:18:27.880 now as a well last year as of 2025 50 64 say racism against black people is widespread and

00:18:36.200 this is tied for the highest since 2008 tracking up from 51 in 2009 and civil rights progress views

00:18:43.720 are also down from 89 in 2011 so pre-occupy wall street to lower levels post 2020 then

00:18:50.960 also Pew Research as well. In 2019, 58% called race relations bad and 53% worsening. Post-2020

00:18:59.880 BLM support peaked and then fell and discrimination perceptions peaked around that time too.

00:19:05.780 It's bad. Basically, Pew Research reports now that people also see racism as a very,

00:19:10.320 very bad issue in the United States. So let's go back to what Asmongold observed about the

00:19:15.640 2011 to 2012 Occupy Wall Street conflict. He said the real break came with OWS when people started

00:19:24.400 focusing on economic power rather than identity. And they were wondering whether their problems

00:19:29.460 came from the ultra rich and this corporate leadership class. Because I think a lot of the

00:19:34.580 sentiment back then, I'm very like, it seems like a lifetime ago. It seems so long ago. But people

00:19:40.120 felt like after the 2008 crash, when a lot of really wealthy people got bailed out, wages never

00:19:46.740 really seemed to recover from that. Yeah. Yeah. Like the rich just kept getting richer, but no

00:19:53.480 one else like really saw the same level of steady improvement that they were used to. And he argued

00:19:59.380 that Asmongold argues that this is, this is the point at which the elite get terrified. So what

00:20:04.620 i wanted to know is how american sentiment changed about wealth disparity and class conflict

00:20:10.240 when the occupy wall street movement gained momentum in the usa and this one pew survey of

00:20:17.920 2048 adults done in 20 end of 2011 so occupy wall street was like this is picking up now

00:20:25.560 66 percent of americans said they were very strong or strong conflicts between rich and poor people

00:20:31.880 an increase of 19 percentage points from 47% in a 2009 survey, right after the 2008 financial

00:20:40.220 crisis. The shares saying very strong conflicts doubled from 15 to 30%, the highest level since

00:20:47.260 Pew first asked the question in 1987. So this was a definitely this flashpoint peak. He's absolutely

00:20:54.480 right that people saw it. Class conflict was now seen as a bigger source of tension

00:20:58.160 than conflicts between immigrants and the native born blacks and whites or young and old for pew 0.98

00:21:04.220 polling so he's spot on with this also views on economic fairness and power were were totally

00:21:11.420 also off in a separate 20 2011 poll 77 percent argued there was too much power in the hands of

00:21:19.020 the a few rich people and large corporations 77 percent of people i mean i i could see large

00:21:25.920 corporations and really wealthy people kind of being like hey guys we should probably divert

00:21:30.400 their attention yeah we need to get people pissed at something else and this is you know i'm gonna

00:21:36.460 be honest like on the ground when i learned about the that the 2008 financial crisis like

00:21:43.020 poverty law center had been funding the kkk and the neo-nazis yeah and that nick fuentes was

00:21:48.020 heavily astroturfed i sort of had this moment of like pulling back and i think a lot of influencers

00:21:53.420 on the right have been trying to cater to both sides to some extent to try to be like yeah well

00:21:59.340 i don't want to isolate that audience by being like yes unmitigatedly obviously this war is a

00:22:05.540 good thing for america's line-term interests and stuff like that and i've sort of come to this

00:22:10.180 realization of oh the people who i thought i was arguing with may just not even really exist in

00:22:18.620 meaningful numbers they're just sort of shell accounts online and a heavy sort of force that

00:22:25.960 have been converted for by those shell accounts but they're not like a meaningful contingent of

00:22:31.240 the conservative movement um and it's changed the way that i address them where i just don't

00:22:37.860 one i don't care about them as much as as like players to like ideologically take seriously

00:22:43.720 but two i see them as more of a threat than i did historically as well it's to say that a lot of

00:22:50.220 this stuff could just be funded by bad actors right and and like the pro-russia part of the

00:22:55.520 right which is just comical because we pointed out that russia is what was behind blm if you

00:23:00.460 go to our episode on that we go with plenty receipts showing that if you were ever worried

00:23:05.080 about russia interfering with the election on behalf of trump at a nine to one level so they

00:23:10.380 literally nine times more than that they spent on trying to make blm a thing they are the source of

00:23:16.860 blm in america it's clearly it wasn't only plausibly conspiratorially allegedly corporations

00:23:25.620 and wealthy americans you know it was russian well i mean i think these groups work together

00:23:28.980 well i don't think they coordinated i just think that when you get you know enough people with

00:23:32.620 aligned incentives doing the same thing it's going to be more effective no no i think they

00:23:36.780 literally work together so by this what i mean is if you this was the period where a portion of

00:23:41.980 the american right began to act like russia was our friend oh my god that's right yeah like well

00:23:47.380 russia is actually you know a worthy very good right wing country and i remember when i first

00:23:53.420 started seeing this and i was like i'm sorry i'm sorry the right wing hates russia like we have 0.85

00:23:58.860 always hated russia they are a communist country who transformed into a kleptocracy like this is

00:24:04.360 antagonistic oh god this was yeah this was even like when on the left people had a lot of memes 0.74

00:24:09.300 about like putin being sexy yes less putin yes i think i think oh what was that song i mean

00:24:17.940 obviously it was a rasputin song but like yeah that's when the rasputin song got popular and

00:24:22.060 everything like that there was a push during a certain time period on both the left and the right

00:24:27.060 to make the extreme and captured parts of them the parts that seemed disingenuous

00:24:32.040 more pro-Russia. Well, look, okay, I just want to emphasize that the wealthy corpos had a reason

00:24:39.240 why. Like another stat, 61% of Americans said the economic system unfairly favors the wealthy.

00:24:45.700 And this was up from earlier baselines in related polling. And only 36% called it generally fair.

00:24:52.600 And it should also be noted, though, that Occupy Wall Street presented this threat. And there was

00:24:58.700 also this actual increase in disparity at play i think we have moved into the united states it's

00:25:06.360 having a system we talk about this in our video of economically who is actually more communist

00:25:11.920 the united states or the ccp in china and the answer is the united states by three folds

00:25:18.000 significantly more communist yeah and if you look at the structure of the government of the united

00:25:25.540 States, which you might even go so far as to argue, is this is as much to distract us from

00:25:32.720 the communist capitalist battle as it is, because what has functionally happened is

00:25:37.980 the communists of Russia had a plan to take over the American governing system, and potentially

00:25:43.380 they have. They took over our academic institutions. They just called themselves something else. They 0.86

00:25:49.060 called themselves socialists, and wokes, and SJWs, and then they used that to take over our

00:25:54.520 companies and they use that to create an alliance with these and if somebody's like oh malcolm how 0.88

00:26:01.460 can you think that like sjwism is aligned with russia when you know the putin hates like the 0.91

00:26:07.460 gays or whatever it's like anybody who understands sjwism really is understands it's a disease that 0.88

00:26:13.400 you unleash on your enemy it's the infected it's the zombies for sure yeah like do you think 0.99

00:26:18.680 putinism agrees with black lives matter no then why is he funding it so much because he understands 0.98

00:26:24.020 how to promote the disease. And people who are infected with the disease don't really care where 1.00

00:26:28.440 they get money. Yeah, well, few people care where they get money. But so back to Asmongold's core

00:26:34.260 claim, it's that in response to these growing concerns, big institutions cultivated a new wave

00:26:41.500 of identity politics as a wedge issue to keep people fighting each other instead of looking up

00:26:46.300 the class ladder. And then in MS Paint or whatever it is he uses, and he's such a fast drawer, what

00:26:51.140 is up with that it's inhuman this this is the phase he sort of was describing where the rich 0.78

00:26:55.940 guy takes nine slices of a 10 piece pie and then cuts the last slice in half and says that black

00:27:01.780 guy got your half redirecting resentment toward the other ordinary people instead of the elite

00:27:06.060 and he he does agree with some and i want to point out that these people like we need to

00:27:11.360 like be clear about who the bad actors are in this right yeah corporals are not industrialists and

00:27:18.380 they're not capitalists. Industrialists and capitalists is what make America a wealthy and

00:27:22.980 successful country. These are people like Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg. These are

00:27:30.340 people who build things that make money. Corpos are very different. These are people who use

00:27:36.540 institutional bureaucracies and legal structures to make money in ways that the average person

00:27:42.520 can't. These are the people who run Enron. These are the people who run ExxonMobil. These are the

00:27:48.600 people who run the major weapons manufacturers. These are the people who run Lockheed Boeing.

00:27:55.040 These are the people who run the types of institutions that do not succeed. And these

00:27:59.880 make up a huge chunk of the American economy because they're draining a huge chunk of the

00:28:03.560 American economy. They are in an endless cycle to siphon tax dollars from the average citizen in

00:28:10.260 America and the industrialists in America. And I think that what we need to do is build a better

00:28:15.840 system for a shared class identity for true Americans, which is the industrialists and the 0.51

00:28:24.200 middle class against the parasites, who is the corpos and the people who live off of the system. 0.76

00:28:32.500 Well, and I think we need to recognize the wedge effectiveness for Asmongold's point of identity 0.98

00:28:39.100 politics which absolutely did spike after around 2016 and certainly after occupy wall street so i

00:28:45.780 just sent you google trends and google ngram viewer screenshots and i'm going to link to all this in

00:28:51.260 the show notes if you look for example at my god terms like identity politics intersectionality

00:28:56.740 black feminism non-binary lived experience from 2000 to present in google ngram viewer it's like

00:29:03.440 it's like exact it's a little uncanny it's a little weird and also if you look at okay

00:29:08.940 a plausible. I know. I'm getting more. No, there's more. There's more. Don't, you know,

00:29:14.540 let me keep going. Also, New York Times word frequency analysis of woke adjacent terminology,

00:29:20.060 including identity focused language showed also rapid rises, but not starting in 2016. We're

00:29:26.000 talking starting in 2013, 2014. So, you know, this it's, yeah, it's, it's real. And then,

00:29:32.760 And so keep in mind that next in his argument, Asmongold layers in.

00:29:37.920 Don't forget to send me that graph that way, the New York Times one.

00:29:41.120 Oh, I don't have a graph for that one.

00:29:42.660 That was just research done.

00:29:44.260 Oh, okay.

00:29:45.100 Yeah.

00:29:45.540 But I will send you all the graphs that I have.

00:29:47.340 And I will, again, put everything in the show notes and links and everything.

00:29:51.100 Asmongold then layers in how you get this SPLC involvement, right?

00:29:57.000 And all these anti-hate nonprofits suddenly getting super active.

00:30:00.840 well the quangos as leaflet calls them yes like an ethnic slur so she used the term quangos which

00:30:08.700 means like quasi-autonomous non-government entities i think or something like that yeah

00:30:12.660 yeah and then basically at that point the identity politics run their course and elites fall back on

00:30:18.620 basically like the oldest scapegoating pattern just overt anti-semitism and conspiracy about

00:30:23.920 the jews and and the master explanation which he characterizes as old reliable it just absorbs and

00:30:30.540 redirects all the frustration from the structural issues that they were like somebody's like

00:30:34.500 people are getting over black people they're just done with them at this point right like

00:30:39.560 we sort of exhausted them as a resource but there's the there's old faithful you know like 0.97

00:30:44.120 who's next jews looking brilliant right like yeah so how do we convince people to hate the jews 0.70

00:30:53.560 well well i mean if it looks like it looks like you just bought the accounts of people who are

00:30:58.420 already anti-Semitic to try to but here's the really crazy thing this is what really started

00:31:03.440 changing my mind look at the fundraising over time I made a graph of the southern poverty law

00:31:09.520 center what it actually seemed to go down a little bit after occupy wall street and then it

00:31:14.200 went down during occupy wall street so this is this is the period during occupy wall street

00:31:19.060 2015 it explodes to like five times the rate it used to be yeah because so from like 2000 to 2015

00:31:26.600 it made between $30 million and $55 million. And then in 2016, 2017, especially by the time

00:31:36.240 Momentum was built, it was making $136 million, $132 million. Then 2018 to 2024, it peaked at

00:31:44.840 $170 million in 2023. And this is just around the time that they're doing things like donating

00:31:50.840 three million to their sources, right? Their sources. And then I was like, also like, okay,

00:31:56.500 well then who are the donors to these organizations? You know, like the donors

00:32:02.320 would be uniquely uncomfortable with Occupy Wall Street related sentiments. So who are some high

00:32:07.740 profile Southern poverty law center donors? Well, there's George Clooney and Amal Clooney via the

00:32:13.540 Clooney Foundation for Justice. They donated a million in 2017. There's George Soros via the

00:32:19.440 open society foundation tim cook then apple ceo on behalf of apple pledged a million jp morgan

00:32:27.480 chase a large american bank open ai has also donated to splc chick-fil-a by the way do not

00:32:37.440 use opening eye models like if they're donating to organizations like this one they're not very good

00:32:42.320 and two evil evil evil evil you know what i might even charge a premium well hold on we had somebody

00:32:48.020 who's going to give us OpenAI tokens to test.

00:32:50.300 So if they give us OpenAI tokens,

00:32:51.940 I won't charge a premium on OpenAI.

00:32:53.320 Okay, people should have freedom to use AI as they want.

00:32:55.820 But look at the next graph

00:32:56.800 because it isn't just the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:33:00.200 This next one is the NAACP.

00:33:02.840 What? Oh my God.

00:33:05.440 Simone, you blew this thing.

00:33:06.300 They also saw a massive, massive spike.

00:33:09.820 And this is all from their tax filings.

00:33:12.460 This isn't just like conjecture.

00:33:14.820 Nonprofits in the United States

00:33:16.120 have to make pretty public disclosures of the amount of money that they got. Also, who's donating

00:33:22.520 to the NAACP? Wells Fargo, $50 million grant in 2023. AT&T, large corporation. Others, Bank of

00:33:32.420 America, JPMorgan Chase, McDonald's, Walmart, Hyundai, UPS, FedEx, Coca-Cola, Eli Lilly,

00:33:40.640 the Ford Foundation, the Kellogg Foundation, the Robert Ward Johnson Foundation,

00:33:47.240 the Open Society Foundation. That's George Soros again.

00:33:50.020 The companies should buy from, oh no, did Coca-Cola donate to them?

00:33:54.160 Yeah. Sorry, Malcolm.

00:33:55.520 Oh no. Oh no.

00:33:56.660 Sorry, Malcolm. All right, let's go to another identity politics nonprofit. Here we have

00:34:01.800 the HRC funding graph. Again, something, you know, you see the normal like steady.

00:34:08.960 my god it's so obvious here it just it just spikes up you want to see another one what's

00:34:15.420 what's another one glad how about glad you want to look at glad let's look yeah what happens

00:34:20.060 surely they're not in on the conspiracy surely nothing happens oh my god glad is it what yeah

00:34:26.800 yeah so you know they were they were they were so they were so modest you know 2015 5.1 million

00:34:32.220 2016 5.4 2017 7.7 2018 19 million 2020 20 million 24 million 2022 oh it's just like it's it's insane

00:34:44.560 it's insane let's look at let's look at occupy wall street okay that's one of the funders of

00:34:48.580 the kkk as well i wouldn't be surprised well i mean it wouldn't hurt so just so you know

00:34:53.540 occupy wall street it didn't survive beyond 2012 they were evicted like you remember they just took

00:34:59.640 out the camp the trackable fundraising data for occupy wall street effectively ends in 2012 as

00:35:06.100 the movement's organizational structure fragmented when the encampment got removed and infiltrated by

00:35:11.680 socialists by the way yeah so let's let's just take a look at their their fundraising surely

00:35:17.200 you know some huge you know commie interests were involved but no it peaked out at 800k

00:35:24.460 800k 800k and okay well maybe companies don't want occupy wall street because they took over

00:35:32.240 our institutions yeah they took over our large yeah yeah they were too busy taking over and also

00:35:38.340 i was like well maybe maybe it was going too far with being like oh all these banks and like rich

00:35:43.660 people donating to like the southern poverty law center and the naacp like maybe that's just kind

00:35:49.060 of how it is right you know rich people donate to things because it's like a some kind of tax thing

00:35:53.400 and they have to, you know, donate a certain amount of their trusts, otherwise they can't

00:35:57.960 maintain trust status or something, right? Like, I know there's all these weird tax rules, so they

00:36:01.400 have to make donations. Maybe they donated to Occupy Wall Street too. But the people who donated,

00:36:08.040 and there were very few, obviously, because they like raised nothing. The most prominent

00:36:12.320 corporate founders are the most anti-corporate corporate founders you could possibly imagine.

00:36:18.360 Ben and Jerry, of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream, they-

00:36:21.460 donators occupy wall street yeah yeah they they wanted to be super supportive and then there's

00:36:27.360 also just like danny goldberg a former nirvana manager and music executive norman leader a

00:36:33.500 television producer like no no one we would know aside from ben and jerry oh wait actually no

00:36:38.940 susan sarandon and kanye west michael moore russell simmons cornell west p seager and others

00:36:44.420 brad pitt commented positively he didn't donate money commented well wishes i love that that

00:36:50.440 counts as a donation these days people are like oh elon he must have donated to your pro natalist

00:36:54.840 movement i'm like no he's like oh commented positively so he gets yeah yeah thoughts and

00:37:00.160 prayers i thought maybe like there was just some weird spike and and there kind of was with some

00:37:06.280 organizations i used and i'll have all the numbers in the show notes a bunch of environmental

00:37:12.360 non-profits as my control to kind of see like well is this just something that happened like

00:37:17.900 after 2016, like when Trump got elected, people just like put all of their Trump

00:37:23.220 derangement syndrome into donations. And there were modest spikes, but nothing like with these

00:37:29.780 really big spikes with the identity politics related organizations. And what's notable to me

00:37:38.260 is when you look at the amounts of money that the environmental nonprofits have raised,

00:37:45.060 it's just orders of magnitude more and this is actually what makes me the most suspicious so

00:37:50.240 the nature conservancy just just insane to me they're raising like 400 million 500 million

00:37:56.800 in the early 2000s already in the early 2000s yeah like keep keep in mind that the southern

00:38:03.580 poverty law center do you remember how much they were raising in the early 2000s 11 million right

00:38:08.620 it was like 35 million so we're just talking huge orders of magnitude more for environmental

00:38:13.720 nonprofits. And that makes me feel like a small number of wealthy people throwing a little bit

00:38:19.040 of money toward those organizations and encouraging outsized like sort of propagandic results is

00:38:24.720 something that just, I don't know, it gives me pause. That basically just environmental

00:38:28.860 nonprofits had slightly more steady increases, more what I would expect from a nonprofit. And

00:38:34.540 also they just, they clearly had much more broad-based support, whereas these more niche,

00:38:40.760 more out there more radicalized identity politics based on profits just kind of got

00:38:47.120 very significant changes in donation patterns after a very specific event asmongold also

00:38:54.700 argued that covid and the internet were this perfect storm accelerating the

00:39:00.560 the identity politic i can't use bad words oh yeah perfect storm not an engineered storm 0.98

00:39:07.960 it's not like it's not like uh pointed out though like it forced every idiot online all day which 0.98

00:39:14.840 massively amplified outrage dynamics and fringe narratives because just people were just sitting

00:39:19.840 online so much better covid has been like a turning point in my existence where the world

00:39:25.540 i really reminds me of this anime zom 100 where the world is overrun by zombies and he's like

00:39:32.680 loving it he's like this is so much better than having a day job and post covid so many people

00:39:39.000 that come to me they go everything's been terrible since covid

00:39:41.480 starting today i don't have to go to work anymore

00:39:49.000 i'm

00:39:52.840 i'm free 0.92

00:39:57.220 REEEE train her office

00:40:21.640 Until yesterday I saw the world in monochrome

00:40:24.360 Shrouded in a black vow of despair and hopelessness

00:40:27.220 blue skies green trees bright red blood i've been zoned out for so long i've forgotten the

00:40:36.960 world was so beautiful full of so many beautiful colors who cares if there's zombies chasing me

00:40:44.000 like now trump's in power and look at all the crazy stuff that's happening in politics and

00:40:49.340 look at all the and i'm like bro it has just been a blast for me yeah i that that one song

00:40:55.460 that we kept listening to during the pandemic with the like i'm just gonna be the gamer song

00:41:00.260 like yeah that just like captured everything that i felt i do want to point out though and i'm going

00:41:05.560 to bring back the same graph that i showed for my argument about male female speciation i don't

00:41:11.260 know that episode may not have run yet but that the the male female political divide which is

00:41:17.760 very much associated with this identity politics insanity really does that it all started with

00:41:24.160 tinder it started with tinder but it accelerated after covid and i think that really feeds it plays

00:41:30.960 into asmund gold's argument that covid was an accelerant for extremism by forcing all these

00:41:36.340 people online there plus covid is what but okay like i i've presented all of this right so we had

00:41:44.340 differences and like changes in the way that police were trained there was a very clear and

00:41:49.240 measured nadir in hate crime and in perceptions of racism before occupy wall street and then

00:41:57.140 suddenly somehow inexplicably and for no apparent reason it started to get bad and and i really

00:42:04.660 can't understand a side like i don't have any alternate here's here's my three theories as to

00:42:11.200 what this could have been if it wasn't the corpus saying oh my gosh we have to engineer

00:42:16.080 provision that's not concerned about us one is it could just be the urban monoculture reaching

00:42:23.120 critical mass and the urban monoculture is more predisposed toward identity politics so this was

00:42:28.860 just a separate cultural mimetic virus running out of control and of course all these things

00:42:34.660 could be happening at the same time two it could be just trump derangement syndrome because funding

00:42:41.000 for many of these identity politics orgs and some of the environmental non-profits as well

00:42:45.300 spiked after Trump's election. It was 2016 that was one of the periods. Now, this doesn't explain,

00:42:51.800 for example, the shift in the New York Times language toward woke stuff well before Trump

00:42:58.380 was elected. But the Southern Poverty Law Center's funding did skyrocket with Trump's election.

00:43:04.860 Now, that could just be when their team really got product market fit and found out how to tap

00:43:09.720 into really good veins because of that. And they had already picked up momentum before, but still.

00:43:14.020 i have another thesis is that you're looking at it wrong okay it was explicitly the death

00:43:23.040 of occupy wall street that caused the explosion in identity politics let me explain okay in our

00:43:30.120 book the pragmatist guide to crafting religion i actually explicitly go over this i say 0.85

00:43:33.420 that the urban monoculture is not a parasite it's this parasitoid it has to kill it most

00:43:39.280 The way that it spreads is that it takes control of a company or a movement, and it then begins to look for any node within the movement or company that is uninfected, and it attempts to flip them or infect them.

00:43:54.920 And if they appear to be uninfectable or immune to it, it then expels them so that it's easy to affect the nodes that are affectable, just harder to affect, right?

00:44:03.780 and so it goes throughout an organizational movement until it can capture as many nodes

00:44:08.800 as possible the problem with this and how does it do this it does this with hr training it does

00:44:15.160 this with you know group struggle sessions it does this with you know the few woke people they

00:44:19.900 they use words that they know that you don't know and then you've got to learn more and more of

00:44:24.080 their lingo to not accidentally offend them and then you get kicked out right like that's how

00:44:27.700 they maintain the purity but once an organization is fully infected there's a problem from the

00:44:32.820 perspective of the memetic evolution of the urban monoculture. All of the infected nodes are stuck

00:44:38.920 inside the infected organization. And they have to disperse. And it has to disperse. That is part of

00:44:45.320 its life cycle. And so it has to kill the host through angry infighting is what it typically 0.92

00:44:51.440 looks like for the captured nodes to be released into the atmosphere and begin to infect new

00:44:59.200 companies what we might have seen with occupy wall street is the first large infected entity dying

00:45:06.780 and spreading all of the infected nodes to the wind where they infected tons of bureaucratic

00:45:12.740 positions within companies oh because they they were extremely woke like i remember i remember

00:45:21.220 thinking of them as being pretty freaking intolerable and it's not because like i i don't

00:45:26.880 think that there are really serious things to question about like the bailouts that took place

00:45:31.740 after well and especially the lack of justice after the 2008 financial crisis a belief that

00:45:38.140 this is what's happening if you look at a lot of your graphs the funding to this stuff started about

00:45:43.340 two and a half years after occupy wall street that's true there was a pause things were cool

00:45:47.880 for a while just enough time for them to begin to build influence within other companies but this

00:45:53.080 is also just enough time for theoretically you know wealthy people's donations to start kicking

00:45:59.040 in to for the change to start enacting for the trainings to start leading to different numbers

00:46:03.480 for the reporting to come through all of this stuff takes time to build true and again all

00:46:08.520 these things can be true at the same time like absolutely it could be that you know the occupy

00:46:13.800 wall street movement then exploded into these other things so my question is to the comments

00:46:17.940 whose theory is right malcolm seary or asmogold theory who's the more clever cultural commentator

00:46:24.700 on this particular issue i like asmogold theory i like it because the narrative that it paints

00:46:31.120 is occupy wall street was actually noticing a real problem and attempting to solve it in a

00:46:35.980 meaningful way and that that makes it seem like oh and then they crushed it and then turned us

00:46:41.400 against each other my theory is more just like a cultural evolution theory like well you had

00:46:46.280 occupied wall street died and then you have all these infected nodes that had you know come out

00:46:50.200 of college recently because that's who a lot of occupied wall street was filtering into major

00:46:54.860 companies in college campuses but taking over the hr departments once you take over the hr department

00:47:01.020 it's very easy to decide who gets hired next and this was the problem that a lot of these companies 1.00

00:47:04.440 had that we've talked about before is they were like oh god we've got to hire like minorities 0.99

00:47:09.160 like trans gay black people okay well we don't want to risk that on like our engineering team 0.98

00:47:16.080 right because we need them to actually be competent so i guess put them in hr right like 1.00

00:47:20.780 no that's not going to hurt anything but now they're in control of who's hired yeah for real

00:47:26.600 oh mr woke up yeah i mean i think maybe the other issue is that the growing class divide and all

00:47:33.800 these just like the the lack of accountability that that various people who caused the 2008 crash

00:47:39.800 had and on the bailout and everything like this is just stuff that like individual people maybe

00:47:45.700 just couldn't feel like they could do anything about whereas there were many different there

00:47:51.040 were many easier ways to virtue signal identity politics related things like putting your

00:47:57.580 pronouns in your bio and all these also could be here's the final hypothesis yeah is a lot of this

00:48:05.660 is in opposition to the new right beginning to gain more power and the left not knowing how to

00:48:15.280 react hmm really didn't come until after yeah i suppose you're right yeah they came later

00:48:22.080 all right could it could it all be downstream of tumblr did tumblr destroy society i think

00:48:26.720 that could be a fun video i mean kind of society anyway i love you simone um for tonight i want

00:48:37.080 something easy okay so what's easy mac and cheese i guess

00:48:41.040 probably pizza if you're doing pizza yeah okay i'll do either pizza or mac and cheese or

00:48:50.020 grilled cheeses i guess any one of those works for you yeah the grilled cheeses you make are

00:48:54.520 fantastic i'll see what the kids support but the mac and cheese is really good too and i learned

00:48:59.920 about black pepper and mac and cheese but the pieces you make allow me to put indian spice on

00:49:04.320 top which has a little put put some razzle dazzle some razzle dazzle that's what i'm all about

00:49:13.340 simone the razzle dazzle yeah honestly this week's videos are just like a string of absolute bangers

00:49:20.500 in terms of like unique research i cannot believe that you took this theory that asthma gold had

00:49:29.260 that all of the sort of anger that we're seeing over increased racial anxiety in the United States

00:49:35.780 I just didn't know like I wanted to gaslight myself like oh no like racism was it can't have 0.68

00:49:41.600 been like everything was fine then right like and then Occupy Wall Street happened the corpos freaked

00:49:46.900 out and advocate posts this theory and then Simone here the theorist comes in with like a hundred

00:49:53.240 graphs and funding charts and being like no no no no no you don't understand like every one of

00:50:00.500 these orgs funding increased like 13 fold near the end of occupy wall street and we know who the

00:50:07.380 donors were and it was all the corpos and we can also see how they change training and police

00:50:12.680 stations of the result that caused a spike in the number of and i was like whoa simone too much

00:50:19.220 too much cook in there a lot interesting stuff going on but yeah i love i love getting a good

00:50:25.080 conspiracy theory that i haven't heard before may we get many more in the days to come i mean

00:50:30.820 mine with the crash out that the assassin had about this i cannot that that is so hilarious

00:50:37.520 it's i just i love that we live in a timeline where like you know assassins after they manifest

00:50:42.900 just have like p.s oh my god the security this is terrible here it's just like it's like a comic

00:50:49.020 book joke you know like of like also kind of it's like the thing that they put in to like lampshade

00:50:54.820 the fact that like clearly no president would have such bad you know so we'll just we'll just

00:51:00.560 lampshade by having the villain talk about how ridiculously bad it is and then that will kind

00:51:04.760 of hand wave you might as well edit a p.s you should really probably go ahead with that new

00:51:09.260 ballroom i know you really should have yeah people gotta get better with their their manifesto

00:51:15.340 trolling but right right good stuff i love it anyway i love you too simone have a spectacular

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00:52:01.260 have you used it yeah and it called me and i was like oh that's really crazy whitelist the phone

00:52:07.260 number by the way you have to go you have to click have it call you while you're looking at

00:52:10.940 your phone whitelisted i did long government reason as to why this is the case that i can't

00:52:15.660 do anything about without having you pay like a hundred dollars for a phone number i love you

00:52:19.960 simone you are amazing i think that you are beautiful and i am really glad we're gonna be

00:52:26.700 dc for most of this week doing meetings so we're but we have a good backlog so don't worry about

00:52:32.260 it guys love you all right

00:52:38.920 you gotta you gotta wear this on the channel more often

00:52:46.380 you look adorkable and i love it this is this is what our fans are in this for

00:52:56.520 Toasty, you are going to get wet.

00:53:03.240 What are you doing, girl? 0.94

00:53:11.280 She just saw somebody to hug.

00:53:13.500 Yeah, I just attack dogs all the time.

00:53:19.120 Oh, my God.

00:53:20.160 No, I'm good.

00:53:24.000 Are you building a bridge, Toasty?

00:53:25.840 Can you check out, can you fill the fridge?

00:53:28.840 I mean, can you have that? I want to show the fridge what it's like under there.

00:53:32.840 What it's like under there?

00:53:33.840 Yeah.

Based Camp - April 30, 2026

The Data： Was Racism Stoked By Corpos To Distract from Occupy Wall Street？

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