Based Camp - The Death of Cringe (LOL Cows are Boomer)

00:00:00.000 cringe is over. Cringe is boomer. Lulcals are boomer. Like cringe is, um, actually it's probably

00:00:07.040 more Gen X, both of them. Yeah. Boomer's just shorthand, I think, for old. You cannot be based

00:00:13.320 without being cringe. Yeah. And by that, what I mean, we're based is defined as without fear of

00:00:19.660 societal expectations, do what you think is right, say what you think is true and interpret reality

00:00:25.600 in a way that is logically consistent within whatever value set you have determined for

00:00:29.980 yourself. I actually think that we saw this reflected in the Trump-Hillary election.

00:00:34.260 Trump was cringe in many ways. It is almost impossible to say Trump isn't cringe, but he

00:00:41.040 passed through the valley of cringe to base where he combined cringe and self-satisfaction,

00:00:46.240 but self-comfort. The comfort was the ways that his value system was different from society's

00:00:51.420 value system. Would you like to know more? Word. Hello, Simone. It is wonderful to be talking to you

00:00:57.200 today. Hi, Malcolm. Today, I am going to be talking about something that one of our fans

00:01:02.960 said in the Discord when I was chatting with them, and it really led me to reflect. I was

00:01:09.520 talking about lolcals and like the joke that, oh yeah, we want to be lolcals. It's the prior

00:01:13.820 thing that we've never had like a Kiwi farm made about us or something like that, given the number

00:01:17.100 of times we've gone viral. We have two Know Your Meme entries about us. But we've never really done

00:01:22.340 anything actually egregious. It's more like we are egregious from an extremist leftist perspective,

00:01:27.320 which just doesn't really make us traditional lolcals anymore than, I don't know, some other

00:01:32.920 individuals like Ben Shapiro could be seen as more lolcally than us, to be honest. But it got them

00:01:38.800 talking about lolcals and they're like, lolcals are so boomer. And then I started thinking about it

00:01:44.640 because I interact with a few different types of communities online. I see the way different people

00:01:50.020 interact online. And I realized I do not see lolcals discussion amongst Gen Alpha, or really

00:01:58.020 amongst younger Gen Z people. And then it got me thinking, wait, why is this? So first, let's talk

00:02:05.340 about what lolcals are. Do you know what lolcals are, Simone? My understanding is a lolcal is an online

00:02:12.680 figure, someone who's public enough online to be fairly well documented, who has done enough

00:02:17.800 cringeworthy or egregious things that the community on Kiwi Farms has decided to begin creating detailed

00:02:25.200 posts, categorizing and cataloging their various embarrassing behaviors and exploits so that

00:02:34.300 everyone can sit and laugh at them. Yes? Yes, it is. So there's a couple of categories. There's lolcals

00:02:41.220 and there's horror cows. Horror cows are like, they're just truly a horrifying human being. And

00:02:47.100 then lolcals are, they are funny. Chris Chan is probably the number one lolcow, although I think he

00:02:53.600 kind of borders on a horror cow now with the, you heard what happened to him, right? No. Oh, so he was

00:03:01.080 in jail for a bit. I think he might be out now. But he was in jail for sleeping with his mother.

00:03:08.680 Oh, no. His dubious consent. It looks like he's very elderly. Yeah. So that's where somebody becomes

00:03:18.660 a horror cow. I think I'm gonna vomit. But anyway. Oh, god. But it also brought me to another topic,

00:03:29.260 which I think. So there's like, why do people engage with these sorts of people? Like, why do

00:03:33.480 they watch them? And it is because they like the emotional subset that these individuals trigger in

00:03:40.120 them. And I think that there's a few, justice that a bad person had bad things happen to them,

00:03:45.320 an opportunity to troll someone that you see as lesser than you, the feeling of cringe at another

00:03:51.600 person, and the feeling of disgust at another person, and also the feeling of learning how fringe

00:03:58.940 psychology individuals work. Which is actually the thing that's most interesting to me. Okay. So

00:04:05.860 I'll explain what I mean by that's interesting to me. I find it very interesting to study how the human

00:04:10.540 mind works when it is breaking. Because through that, like through studying how something like a car

00:04:17.380 breaks, you can understand how the car might be put together. And as a former neuroscientist who

00:04:23.600 specialized in like abnormal psychology and stuff like that, when the evolution of the human cognition,

00:04:28.940 this is really interesting to me, because it does help me understand when I see novel conditions,

00:04:34.260 where especially where I see convergent behavior patterns across different locales, I can be like,

00:04:40.200 oh, this is an unusual behavior pattern, but it comes to convergently. So something in our society

00:04:45.140 must be pushing it, or it must be some sort of pre-evolved pathway, or a way that some system can

00:04:49.940 break, which can then give me more insight into myself. But the other subsets, I think,

00:04:55.620 are what drama is people. The cringe and stuff like that. Which I never got. Also, you don't,

00:05:00.640 even if you see cringe comedy, for example, in a TV show, both you and I can't take it. So I think

00:05:06.200 it's something I have a lot of different things to do. I find it very painful to watch. Yeah.

00:05:09.060 And then this brought me to another thing, which is the statement that I was thinking, and I was like,

00:05:14.080 this is true. Cringe is over. Cringe is boomer. Low cows are boomer. Like, cringe is,

00:05:19.680 actually, it's probably more Gen X, both of them. Cringe is Gen X, and cows are Gen X,

00:05:24.800 which are new boomers, right? Yeah, boomers just shorthand, I think, for old.

00:05:30.140 Yeah. But remember when, like, our cringe used to be a thing, and like, things being cringey used to

00:05:36.340 be a thing, and you just wouldn't hear a young person call something cringe anymore? Like,

00:05:41.220 we interact with young people, and they don't use the term that much when they're talking about

00:05:45.080 things. And so I think what we're seeing here is a cultural shift, where when the internet first

00:05:54.880 began to proliferate, and the first generation of genuinely online natives, which was really our

00:06:03.600 generation, we realized, oh my god, you can find people doing crazy, insane things on the internet,

00:06:10.300 and then a culture arose following, mocking, and laughing down at these individuals. For the

00:06:19.480 generation under us, they don't find this to be the novelty that our generation did, and they find

00:06:27.060 the behavior patterns around this to be quite disgusting. Like, you could say, I don't want to

00:06:33.840 say, like, low class, but pathetic. Like, laughing at somebody who barely has their life together and 0.99

00:06:39.300 clearly has major psychiatric conditions, is not cool, though, within Gen Alpha. Ah, yes.

00:06:47.440 To speak like the young people do, because they say things like, cool. I gotta make up terms,

00:06:53.540 because I don't know what they're saying. Yeah, we shouldn't even try. But that makes sense to me

00:06:58.380 when I think about the things that Gen Alpha values. This reactionary, and status hierarchies built around

00:07:04.820 mocking those who are weaker than you, is just like, why would you do that? I think from the

00:07:11.520 perspective of this generation. Yeah. I think part of it's also because poor mental health has

00:07:17.140 proliferated so much that there's this, I'm not okay either. Why would I, I, who identifies as someone

00:07:23.620 who's struggling mentally, take pleasure in seeing the mental languishing of someone else?

00:07:30.300 I think that has something to do with that. Yeah, but you also gotta think about the politicization

00:07:33.880 of the online space into leftist and rightist spaces, which was not as much the case when we

00:07:40.780 were younger. And as the online space has become politicized, most spaces and most status hierarchies

00:07:47.540 within most places identify as either left or right-leaning status hierarchies, which means you're

00:07:53.180 now playing by the moral codes of each of these status hierarchies. And while they are different moral codes,

00:07:59.860 neither of them would elevate targeting an individual who is mentally unhealthy and doing

00:08:06.480 cringy things. On the left, this would be seen as bullying a disabled person, right? You know,

00:08:12.700 why would you do this? Like you're a horrible person and you are like the definition of evil 1.00

00:08:17.220 on, which is often there's lots of performative masculine communities. There's lots of communities 0.97

00:08:21.540 around self-improvement. There's lots of, but if you're in like a self-improvement community,

00:08:25.220 you think that they're going to elevate you for saying that somebody is cringy for anything other

00:08:29.900 than their like political beliefs or failures at self-improvement? No, they're going to look at you

00:08:35.420 like, why would you do that? Like, well, why are you just randomly targeting someone? You should be

00:08:40.900 focused on yourself, which is why I think that you've got the elevation of the haze community. It's 0.98

00:08:48.000 still one of the low-cal communities that it's seen as really acceptable to hate on because it's

00:08:53.480 acceptable to hate on it within this self-improvement niche as they are seen as the

00:08:58.520 antithesis of self-improvement. And for people who aren't familiar with the haze community, 0.90

00:09:02.220 it's a healthy at every size community, which promotes the idea that no matter what weight you

00:09:06.780 are, you can be perfectly healthy and that you should do things like intuitive eating, which just

00:09:11.260 means eat whatever you want, whenever you feel like it, and that you will be more healthy if you are

00:09:15.240 doing that because your body knows what it needs. And obviously these things are true and they

00:09:19.520 represent a complete sort of mirroring of what everything you get in within these fitness

00:09:25.300 circles so that they make fun of these communities. But then you also have the masculine, the performative

00:09:29.460 masculinity right-leaning communities. Like they're not going to like laughing at the low-cal, so you're

00:09:34.280 not going to get it there. You're not going to get it in the intellectualist communities because why does

00:09:38.620 that help anyone in that community? They're like, why are you doing this? This is a sociopathic waste of

00:09:44.420 your time. And so I also think, ironically, as the internet sphere has become politicized,

00:09:53.120 there just are not spaces where this is elevated as much except when the lolcows are explicitly

00:10:03.160 political or explicitly high profile. I have a slightly different theory. Can I share it before

00:10:11.620 you go forward? Okay, great. My slightly different take on this is that lolcows or cringe watching

00:10:19.820 has shifted into hate watching. But hate watching and love watching are closely related and often

00:10:27.120 simultaneous. So I don't really hear about people doing much cringe watching anymore. But what I do hear

00:10:33.840 from people again and again as they're commenting on others online is, oh, I follow this person or this

00:10:40.440 group or these types of people online religiously. Like they're always following them on Instagram or

00:10:46.480 YouTube or whatever it may be. And I hate them. But I love watching them. And I also now have this 0.99

00:10:52.620 parasocial relationship with them whereby I care about them. And I think what's going on here is that,

00:10:59.200 yes, we're in this highly politicized world. And yes, we do like to look down on other people or feel

00:11:04.620 superior about ourselves or at least feel like we're reinforcing our own identities and political

00:11:09.260 identities especially. However, there's also this extreme craving online and in the world in general

00:11:17.000 for authenticity. And so these people that you can watch to hate, they are typically very authentic.

00:11:23.680 They're very vehement in their beliefs. And often you watch them because they're vehement in their

00:11:27.400 beliefs, which are in political opposition to your own, right? So they're like the based Mormons and

00:11:32.780 you're the progressive. Historically, we're not about political beliefs. Yeah. They were more just

00:11:38.340 embarrassing people online. And now people are watching, they're hate watching people who are

00:11:42.580 politically very different from them. But this one went to my political theory. So this would argue

00:11:47.920 that it's something different is going on here, which is, and it was this topic, we don't have an

00:11:52.060 answer. Like I'm very open to ideas. Yeah, this is conjecture. Most of what we do is conjecture.

00:11:56.900 We just sometimes feel very confident about it. Yeah. I feel uniquely unconfident about this conjecture,

00:12:01.700 but it was something I wanted to think about and pontificate on with you because this podcast

00:12:04.920 helps me think through things, which was, I think it is political lolcows are seen as okay

00:12:10.400 because they are, you can hate on them within the other political sphere. And we believe that they

00:12:16.380 are not like mentally ill people often. They are just people doing active harm to the world out of 1.00

00:12:22.040 arrogance and not being, and a lack of open-mindedness. And both parties now just think the other party

00:12:28.060 isn't open-minded. The left is, oh, the right isn't open-minded about these topics.

00:12:31.700 And the right's like, no, you're not open-minded about ideological diversity

00:12:34.580 and diversity of cultural spectrums. And so both groups believe the other groups is small-minded

00:12:39.900 and could, if they tried to look outside their bubbles, see the world as it truly is.

00:12:45.440 So not being open-minded. That, and then the other thing is I think that punching up is seen as very

00:12:52.380 okay. So lolcows that are famous in some way are seen as okay to laugh at still and okay to focus on.

00:13:02.840 So a great example of this would be the Shia LaBeouf flag thing when 4chan was chasing around it,

00:13:08.400 the great internet has to worry in on it. Because Shia LaBeouf is technically a famous actor. So we

00:13:14.200 can lolcow him all we want. Or the Johnny Depp divorce thing, right? Like I think people really

00:13:19.500 focus on that because that woman, whatever her name was, was just so hateable. 1.00

00:13:22.860 Yeah. And not only was she hateable, but the form of hate you had for her fell into one of the

00:13:29.560 political niches that was in the online, i.e. was in like red pill communities and stuff like that.

00:13:34.660 And so this then goes to reinforce the reason why cringe stopped is you needed to be cringing

00:13:41.720 specifically at an otherwise mentally competent person now, because it's just not funny to cringe

00:13:47.480 at the mentally disabled anymore, which like, yeah, sure. Like online culture has grown up.

00:13:51.560 And they need to be in opposition to something one of your community stands for. What do you think?

00:13:58.640 Yeah, that sounds about right. I think now there's also this need to add to what you're saying

00:14:07.460 to virtue signal, in addition to be smug and cringe at someone. Whereas in the past,

00:14:14.300 it was just fun to cringe and laugh at someone who was just incredibly mentally ill. 1.00

00:14:21.560 Or just really stupid, which seemed to be the most common themes. Now it's more appropriate to 1.00

00:14:28.060 cringe or laugh at someone who's just very, we'll say morally inferior per your cultural group, right?

00:14:38.160 Yeah. Yeah. And I also think it's that we have moved away from a society where the lull cows were seen as

00:14:48.440 violating societal norms that everyone agreed to. And that's what made them cringe. It was like this cringe

00:14:54.980 that everyone could agree on. But in the modern context, that's not what we're looking at. We're not looking

00:15:01.980 at it because people no longer believe in like a default set of social values. The social values in

00:15:07.440 the online left and the online right, because they've drifted apart so much are unique and

00:15:11.840 differentiated, which prevents generic violations of social norms as othering somebody from specifically

00:15:19.080 one of those two communities. Where do you think the future is going to go with this stuff?

00:15:22.740 Oh boy, that's a good question. Yeah. Who will we demonize and make fun of in the future? I could see

00:15:31.080 apostates being the next top targets. So both, because what we predict, right, demographically,

00:15:41.420 is that there's going to be this increasing xenophobia in high fertility groups, plus increasing levels of

00:15:50.480 extreme predation from the urban monoculture as it needs to get more converts, which means that

00:15:57.820 there is on both sides, we're going to see more xenophobia. And then on both sides, the ultimate enemy,

00:16:03.960 the people that are the worst are those who detract, those who leave the home culture, 1.00

00:16:08.460 or those who leave progressive culture. So like detransitioners and stuff like that. 1.00

00:16:14.340 Detransitioners, religious people who convert to atheism, that those people will be seen. So right 1.00

00:16:19.440 now, for example, there's a lot of people we follow online on YouTube who are like ex-Mormons, 0.79

00:16:25.740 for example, who do a lot of commentary on Mormon culture. I could see there being this sort of movement

00:16:30.820 of now a bunch of Mormons just really enjoy following those ex-Mormons and seeing how miserable their 0.99

00:16:36.080 lives are and how childless they are and how fat and ugly they've become as soon as they leave the 0.99

00:16:40.480 religion, whatever, right? Like that, I could see them going for those sorts of things. On the other 0.83

00:16:45.600 side, I could see people, and we're already, I think, starting to see the forefront of this,

00:16:51.300 the bellwether of this. I'm starting to see religious people doing things like that. And I'm 0.51

00:16:56.880 also starting to see progressives doing things like that with trad wives, for example. Oh, now she says

00:17:01.020 she's a trad cat. Now she says she's this. And look, she's going to lose all her money, and she's going 1.00

00:17:05.420 to be so miserable, and she acts as though she's so perfect, but she's really not. And I think that

00:17:11.220 we're going to see more of that, and specifically from people who deconvert, and not just from people

00:17:18.120 who happen to be on the other team. We're going to increasingly ignore those people.

00:17:22.860 So I hear you. That might be what I have a different take of what might happen.

00:17:27.100 Tell me. Which is to say, and we've done a tweet to this extent, you cannot be based without being

00:17:35.400 cringe. Yeah. And by that, what I mean, people will be like, what do you mean by that? You cannot

00:17:39.600 be based. Like you cannot, where base is defined as, without fear of societal expectations, do what

00:17:46.280 you think is right, say what you think is true, and interpret reality in a way that is logically

00:17:51.680 consistent within whatever value set you have determined for yourself. So just uninfluenced by

00:17:56.460 society, or a desire to status signal, or what's going on around you, just take a straight narrow

00:18:03.760 path there, that will lead you to make decisions that, it will axiomatically lead you to make

00:18:09.880 decisions that go against mainstream societal values. And where cringe is an individual, quote

00:18:17.380 unquote, not recognizing mainstream societal values, or going against mainstream societal values,

00:18:21.720 you are intrinsically, you must pass through the valley of cringe to get too based. And

00:18:27.400 as such, and I'm going to get, and people might be like, come on, you're not really, you can't be

00:18:33.200 saying that lolcows are the new base. And I'd say, actually, I think so. I think that we live in a

00:18:40.200 society right now that is so starved for vitalism in people that it might admire, or model itself on,

00:18:48.600 that it is looking for these post-cringe individuals who demonstrate having something

00:18:55.980 together in their lives. It's this pall of nihilism that flows over the generations, who are

00:19:00.120 comfortable with who they are, and who they are is not about fitting some social trope around them.

00:19:07.020 And somebody can be like, who are you talking about here? Who would fit this? I'd say the Tiger King is a

00:19:11.980 great example of this. In any previous generation, the Tiger King would have been a lolcow. He is 1.00

00:19:19.480 almost the perfect representation of a lolcow. Look at this cringy, he's a bad person. He's cringy as 1.00

00:19:27.100 hell at everything he does. And yet you watch him, and he is the hero. Very obviously. You can look,

00:19:35.820 and he seems like a genuinely pretty bad person. And yet you find yourself, and I think society found

00:19:41.140 itself, loving him, and then hating the alternative, Carole Baskin, which was somebody who tried to play

00:19:47.340 by all of society's rules. Somebody who tried to fit this default social, like, idea of, I am a good

00:19:56.600 person, please like me. Subset of the Tiger King watchers, though, that was pro-Carole Baskin. I was under

00:20:03.440 that impression. There is a subset. They were like the far progressive ones, because what do

00:20:07.300 she represent? What do progressives represent, but just going along with the dominant cultural

00:20:11.780 group, right? And I think that what they miss is the average person, the average American who isn't

00:20:17.100 one of these progressive intellectual circles, doesn't like people like that. I actually think

00:20:21.860 that we saw this reflected in the Trump-Hillary election. Trump was cringe in many ways. It is almost

00:20:29.800 impossible to say, Trump isn't cringe, but he passed through the Valley of Cringe to base,

00:20:34.280 where he combined cringe and a self-satisfaction with who he has a self-satisfaction, but self-comfort.

00:20:39.960 The comfort was the ways that his value system was different from society's value system.

00:20:45.080 Yeah. And then on the progressive side- You had Clinton, who was just Carole Baskin.

00:20:48.600 No, yeah. Clinton did not pass through the Valley. She was still in the uncanny Valley of not,

00:20:53.080 of cringe. That's what I'm saying.

00:20:54.940 What's his name? Mitten's guy. The guy who sat in the cold and is old.

00:20:59.740 Oh, Bernie Sanders.

00:21:00.920 Bernie Sanders. He is based.

00:21:02.600 No, Bernie Sanders passes through the Valley of Cringe to base with a complete ownership of

00:21:08.740 the ways that he is different from-

00:21:10.400 100%. Yeah.

00:21:11.960 Mainstream culture. And here's where I think you have the new lolcow. The new true lolcow, 0.76

00:21:17.280 the person who everybody agrees that they hate, is somebody who both comes from privilege and

00:21:24.780 structures their entire life around fitting the mainstream societal exception of the idea of

00:21:31.760 this is a good person. And is clearly unhappy at the other end of that. And so I think the ideal,

00:21:39.360 who do you think I'm going to say is the ideal new lolcow? It's a couple. 1.00

00:21:43.260 Okay. So performative virtue signaler, a couple?

00:21:45.540 Comes from a position of power. Everything they do is about just showing the world. You know who

00:21:51.220 they are. No.

00:21:53.740 Harry and Meghan.

00:21:55.300 Oh gosh. Of course. Yeah.

00:21:57.760 I think it's the new perfect lolcow. They are like the Carole Baskin or the Hillary Clinton on

00:22:04.140 crack, where every little thing about their lives is structured to try to earn mainstream societal

00:22:10.360 normie acceptance.

00:22:12.100 Normie points.

00:22:12.680 They don't realize that the normies don't exist anymore. They are yelling into a cloud that

00:22:19.060 does it to a void. And everybody thinks everything they do is truly detestable because it is so

00:22:27.100 focused and so manicured to not be cringe.

00:22:31.720 Yeah, I think that's a really good point. I think it's so interesting and I think intuitively confusing

00:22:37.680 to people. And I can't really understand it myself because they do represent some fairly average and

00:22:44.720 mainstream views. And they're always trying to jump on things that the mainstream has already jumped on.

00:22:49.140 So that's where it's weird. Why would we find that so cringe? And yet we do. I wonder what's going on

00:22:55.520 there. Why it would be so rejected because intuitively it seems like it shouldn't be that if they just glom on

00:23:00.920 whatever the current thing is that they should be celebrated for that. And yet they are not. Why do you think that only people

00:23:07.520 because I think that the dominant cultural group in our society has been so aggressive and so abusive to its

00:23:17.700 neighboring groups that the only people who really follow it anymore are the ultra elite, i.e. people who own media

00:23:25.720 companies, people who control our school systems, professors, stuff like that. And everyone else basically sees it as

00:23:32.260 this stupid culty religion. And so if you're like Harry and Meghan, all of your friends are in this cult. So you don't 1.00

00:23:37.680 understand that the general public basically sees it as a joke now. Even at the age of Trump, when he was first running,

00:23:45.280 we had already, I think, begun to enter that where everyone was just like, yeah, at least he's not doing what everyone

00:23:50.680 else is doing. And I think with Bernie, you catch on to the same thing here. People want something different.

00:23:57.520 Yeah, it could be. Yeah. The biggest thing is a dissatisfaction with everything

00:24:03.820 and an understanding that our current stances don't equal a solution. And maybe, yeah, it's part

00:24:09.100 of a flailing for hope. That's interesting. I guess we'll see how it plays out, who the future targets

00:24:15.060 of ridicule will be. Yeah, I'm very interested to watch this play out. And I think it's a positive

00:24:20.300 societal shift. And I think that there is a hole within the current memetic landscape

00:24:26.680 for individuals who are happy with who they are, who show a sense of vitalism and optimism for the

00:24:35.920 future, and who are cringe in that they differentiate from mainstream social expectations,

00:24:43.840 but take complete ownership of that. And I think that this is best represented in the traditional

00:24:48.020 Addams family, like the 90s Addams family, where I always say that the monsters were monstrous

00:24:52.740 because they were monsters trying to live within the dominant social culture, where the Addams 0.58

00:25:01.080 family were monstrous because they were normal humans who differentiated from the mainstream

00:25:04.860 societal culture so much that it made them more culturally similar to monsters than the society

00:25:10.740 around them, with the joke constant throughout the old Addams family being that despite that,

00:25:17.200 they were happy and satisfied and had healthy relationships that no one else was able to

00:25:22.820 capture in their society by following the rules. And in a society that is so nihilistic today,

00:25:30.280 in a society that is so clearly failed people and with social expectations that so clearly do not work

00:25:35.580 within this new economic and social context that we're in, people want a real Addams family.

00:25:41.880 They want a real family who your average boomer is like, oh, they're weird and cringe, but then why are

00:25:49.460 they happy? And that reflects on the real boomer that maybe they're right and you're wrong and everything

00:25:58.620 that you are teaching as a society right now is a necrotic rot of the human soul. And that when you look at

00:26:06.380 something and you react, ew, that's so silly, you are merely showing that you don't understand how to

00:26:14.700 achieve happiness and you genuinely, or satisfaction or a healthy relationship, and you have no future 0.95

00:26:21.380 plan for where we are going as a species that breeds optimism anymore while these weirdos do. And that

00:26:28.420 humor, I think, and that contrast, I think, is what we hope to drive with the community that we build and

00:26:34.700 why I think that it isn't just random cringe alternative. And I love you for creating this

00:26:42.260 with me, Simone. Thank you for not caring what others think. Oh, gosh. I'm very happy with what

00:26:47.920 we've done. And I really don't care what other people think, but that's probably the autism.

00:26:53.880 But I care what you think. Yeah. All right. Have a good one, Simone. You too, gorgeous.

Based Camp - May 29, 2024

The Death of Cringe (LOL Cows are Boomer)

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