In this episode, we talk about the deep state, and the role of the Deep State in obstructing President Trump's agenda, and why it's time to go all in on it. We're joined by journalist and author Malcolm Gladwell to discuss his new book, "At War with Ourselves," and why he thinks there's more to the story than meets the eye.
00:01:14.420oh my god I when you first said hi Simone you sounded kind of sad and I was so worried no no it's not
00:01:29.440like you have to like call people with a smile on your face I was just so worried wow this is great
00:01:33.760news the pregnancy test came back positive but very faint which is exactly what happened the last
00:01:42.320time we lost a pregnancy so so I guess we'll see and in this book H.R. McMaster talks broadly about how
00:01:49.760you know much he respects the office and how much he respected the president and really tried to do a
00:01:54.260good job but at the same time he mentioned stuff that made me really think twice like at one point
00:02:00.260President Trump wanted H.R. McMaster to send off a letter that he'd written to Vladimir Putin and rather
00:02:08.840than follow his request he just sat on it for like two weeks hoping that the president would change his
00:02:15.300mind or something and he did eventually tell President Trump that he hadn't sent it but one like
00:02:20.260if your boss tells you to do a thing you do a thing you know unless it's illegal and two if the
00:02:30.700president of the United States tells you to do a thing you do the thing like that really surprised
00:02:36.140me especially that someone would so openly write about it in a book and be kind of like be proud
00:02:41.800about it and he really was yeah and you mentioned that he did this repeatedly throughout the book he does
00:02:46.020he does this multiple times and it just it made me think okay maybe there's something to this whole
00:02:52.880narrative so then when Cremieux put up a sub stack essay talking about civil service members and
00:03:02.380political appointees I got really intrigued because Cremieux is really good at sharing very quantified very
00:03:10.160sort of evidence-backed information one of the top things that he linked to was an article from 2021
00:03:16.740sort of at the tail end of Trump's reign his first administration talking about just how awful it was
00:03:24.100it's called Tales from the Swamp How Federal Bureaucrats Resisted President Trump by James Shirk and it is
00:03:31.540insane so I thought it might be fun to go through it contrast that with how the Trump administration is
00:03:38.700apparently dealing with things a little bit differently this time around because they've
00:03:42.980learned from all this in terms of things done one there there are sort of general themes of how the
00:03:49.180deep state resists an administration one is through withholding information so at the National Labor
00:03:55.480Relations Board career staff provided legal analysis that only cited precedent supporting their preferred
00:04:01.880outcomes while omitting contrary cases this forced political appointees to conduct their own research to
00:04:08.140evaluate both sides of legal arguments which is just so insidious can you imagine you've been
00:04:13.880appointed you're in office you have this mandate to do something and you don't even realize that
00:04:18.340you're being like given this completely skewed understanding of reality I guess a lot of people
00:04:22.980are going to say well that's not a big deal because this has been how the media has presented
00:04:26.840everything since like I guess 2016. Well in the Trump administration the first one nobody understood
00:04:32.720how truly insidious the system was against them. Yeah like maybe the mainstream media does that but
00:04:38.640like government workers whose job it is to help me like navigate an issue that this is insane.
00:04:45.400The whole thing needs to be burned down and Trump is burning it down as we'll talk about in another
00:04:49.280episode you know he has offered six months it looks like paid leave to anyone who quits right now
00:04:54.080he has moved on more than that basically now through September. Yeah this schedule seven program which
00:05:01.020recategorizes jobs so he can fire them and he is just torching department after department so I love
00:05:07.280he has both given this okay you can get out with this good nest egg if you leave right now and also when
00:05:14.580they said in the same email we can't promise your job will still be here by then. Right and speaking of
00:05:18.980departments that are on the chopping block at least you know according to campaign promises the
00:05:23.960department of education during Trump's first administration saw career staff concealing
00:05:29.120internal documents related to allegations against for-profit colleges claiming they just claimed the
00:05:34.200data was unavailable then the documents were later revealed during litigation showing weak evidence for
00:05:39.700the department's actions under the Obama administration so you know they kind of had it coming you know
00:05:45.760but Trump gave them a chance clearly he was being stonewalled from within the department of education it's
00:05:51.140got to go but also you know I heard the only reason he didn't get rid of it in the first administration
00:05:55.260was because Betsy DeVos wanted a job there and her husband was CEO of BlackRock
00:05:59.380so F Betsy DeVos okay she did like very little actual like she was like the worst person in the
00:06:09.240world to be running that organization I mean you know also the the environmental the environmental
00:06:15.140say that is because she ran one of the largest private colleges in the United States which one
00:06:20.440was it I don't know DeVos I want to say or something Betsy DeVos ran DeVos yeah something
00:06:25.980like that and the goal if any Trump run private you know should be to not just get rid of colleges but
00:06:31.360to first get rid of the private colleges because they are scams that are run on our military mostly
00:06:36.460is what they are yeah yeah they basically extract military subsidized college education yeah that's
00:06:43.800it's bad without getting people jobs so career attorneys at the environmental protection agency
00:06:48.760also failed to inform political appointees about significant litigation or legal positions so the
00:06:54.300appointees literally literally had to monitor public court filings themselves like these so there were
00:07:01.760people there being paid who were actively not doing their jobs and appointees were basically like
00:07:07.480circumventing them and just going on to public records to try to get the information they needed to just do
00:07:13.720their job so I mean wow that just withholding information that's that I would say it's just
00:07:19.920shocking that you can't fire them for doing that like this is what it is it's raw yeah it's bad I would
00:07:26.560still put this withholding of information kind of under the lesser infractions section because
00:07:34.000it gets worse so career officials of the food and drug administration falsely claimed the agency had
00:07:41.300authority over laboratory developed COVID-19 tests delaying expanded testing capacity and subsequent
00:07:47.920analysis revealed the FDA lacked such authority so basically we could have had COVID-19 tests a lot
00:07:53.920earlier during the pandemic if the FDA hadn't lied about its its authority and I and I will note here that
00:08:01.740it appears very clear like if you look at a lot of Democrats a lot of Republicans forget this but a lot of
00:08:07.260Democratic politicians were saying that they wouldn't get the the vaccine if it was when it was looked like
00:08:12.320it was going to come out under Trump and it appears that the FDA specifically held up its release so that it
00:08:18.840would come out under Biden administration so however that turned out for Biden and the Democrats up to you but the
00:08:25.160point being is it was intentionally delayed as bad as the Democrats say that we needed this vaccine yeah yeah and in hard
00:08:32.360evidence of this now it's like undeniable yeah it seems like some of this was out of spite some of this was just like we
00:08:38.600don't want the Trump administration to make progress and and we we want progress yeah like a good example of this actually is with the
00:08:46.840the Department of Labor so career employees at the Department of Labor asserted to appointees that direct final rules
00:08:53.880DFRs could not be issued what happens after Biden enters office oh there's all these direct these direct final rules being issued
00:09:03.960huh so I bet they didn't expect Trump to come back into office did they I mean like seriously I I just can't imagine and I think we've all kind of been
00:09:16.680been in positions where you you go to like a really mean click at school or you're in
00:09:23.720a new department at work you know and and someone's being really unfriendly and you're just trying to get
00:09:29.000something done and they're like oh you can't you you can't file that paper that way or you you're not
00:09:32.680allowed to do that and then you later understand or learn that you can and they were just lying to you to make
00:09:37.800your life hard just like there's this level of catty behavior taking place in the federal government
00:09:44.040is unreal and also the there were some career staff at the national labor relations board which of course
00:09:52.200we should expect to see doing silly things but they provided incorrect dates for reopening union contract
00:09:58.520negotiations so that they could lock political appointees into unfavorable terms which is so screwed up
00:10:05.960but also I would expect absolutely nothing yeah more from labor relations so yeah why is there even a
00:10:12.680labor relations department like that shouldn't well yeah why why are there federal why are there unions
00:10:18.520in the federal government you know that that's another great question wait can Trump make the federal
00:10:23.640government anti-union is that possible can you just say like no Trump was a pro-union candidate
00:10:28.520wasn't he I mean he's he supports oh yeah I mean you you stick with the private sector unions but I'm
00:10:33.080talking about federal government unions yeah that doesn't seem right like when it's taxpayer dollars
00:10:38.920well you're not negotiating against another party you're negotiating against yourself like it makes
00:10:44.360no sense you're you are when I I actually am very supportive of unions when the unions are fighting
00:10:50.760against a private party like a company or even like a board of company you know like a Disney or something
00:10:56.680right yeah but when there's like a teacher's union who are you negotiating against you're negotiating
00:11:02.840against people that you are electing right like if you think you deserve a higher salary then you take
00:11:09.080that to the citizens it's not some big mega bucks guy behind a desk yeah but anyway yeah national labor
00:11:17.000relations board assholes they also some of the lawyers at the national labor relations board refused to draft
00:11:22.120decisions overturning administrative presidents that they supported they basically were like
00:11:27.320i dare you to dismiss these to anyone who was appointed they just refused and that's that's
00:11:32.680another really common theme so like another theme of what was being done by the deep state during
00:11:37.160trump's first administration is just refusing to do work that was considered ideologically disagreeable
00:11:43.240so another example of this is the civil rights division of the department of justice
00:11:48.920had some staff refusing to work on cases involving racial discrimination against asian americans at
00:11:53.320yale university or enforcing conscious conscience protections for nurses objecting to participating
00:11:59.160in abortions they just weren't willing to work on those cases so political appointees had to handle
00:12:04.360those cases themselves which probably is for the best but the appointees are very capable people and
00:12:09.480and did a great job but just like outright refusing well didn't they win that yale case
00:12:14.680i think they did so yeah i guess i guess it's for the best yeah you should have taken that one cronies
00:12:21.320yeah i mean the the worst thing to do and and what i think has happened to us a couple of times
00:12:26.360is when people say oh yeah i'll do that and then they just don't and and here are some examples of
00:12:30.120that happening basically well hold on before we go for i love this this entire deep state is basically
00:12:35.160the bergens but like actively malicious or not the berg what are they called again the ones from uh
00:12:40.200uh hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy yeah the the bureaucrats there we go oh kidnapping the president
00:12:48.280oh no she's not eligible for release at this time okay right look this this is the president oh okay
00:12:56.760see there he says now the whole kidnapping business was just a horrible misunderstanding oh yeah
00:13:03.560she didn't mean anything by he's ordering you to let her go but this isn't a presidential release
00:13:10.040she's a prisoner for those are blue oh i'll stay here okay yeah yeah but it's basically it is
00:13:19.880basically then so yeah the the worst case of that of course is when they just say yeah sure i'll do it
00:13:24.600and they don't and that happened in the dol the department of labor regulatory unit where a team of 10 to
00:13:30.76015 staff delayed drafting a priority regulation for over a year producing work at a pace equally one line
00:13:38.440of text per day so really just like they were not they were not doing it and then the political
00:13:42.920appointees in that unit ultimately wrote the regulation themselves in weeks they just you know
00:13:48.280they just did it themselves but a ton of time was lost because they sat there thinking oh these guys
00:13:53.480are these guys are on it we asked them like they probably had a bunch of check-ins where they're like
00:13:57.400hey you know what's going on like oh well you know it's a very complicated you and i have had this happen to
00:14:02.040us like when we get scammed it's it was well especially when we were younger and earlier in
00:14:07.640our careers we were given the impression and this was a big meme at stanford's business school we're
00:14:13.400like oh if you throw money at a problem you'll fix it you know just hire the best of the best hire the
00:14:18.040consultant hire the you know yeah and trust them you know trust the expert let the expert work don't get
00:14:23.960in their way let them fix the problem and we hired a couple people to do really important projects on
00:14:29.400those fronts in accounting um and in compliance and some other things and you know we check in
00:14:35.080and be like hey you know i thought this would be done by now what's what's going on oh well you know
00:14:39.720this whole this whole regulatory this is the thing experts are fucking retarded well we were just being
00:14:46.120actively lied to in a couple of instances people just actively lied to us they were not working they
00:14:50.680were charging us tons of money they were not doing anything at all and this is exactly what happened
00:14:54.600in the department of labor regulatory unit also this happened at the u.s department of agriculture
00:14:59.960career staff took over two years to rescind an environmental rule affecting alaska despite
00:15:04.520having issued similar rules quickly under prior administration so they basically just decided to
00:15:09.240not do it it's just so bad and then i mean similarly another theme here is producing unacceptable work
00:15:18.360products with the like title line regulations career staff produced drafts that either diverged from
00:15:25.160policy priorities that were legally indefensible so again the appointees had to do all the work which
00:15:30.120again is for the best probably and then under usda neba rulemaking despite expertise career staff
00:15:37.240produced unusable drafts for an environmental regulatory reform requiring political appointees to rewrite it
00:15:44.760this is where i want to sort of point out how this is going to backfire so freaking bad because one in trump's
00:15:52.760first administration plenty of appointees found out that it was just easier to do everything themselves
00:15:58.840and they did now like as of this week open ai released a government iteration of its ai tools
00:16:08.520that allow for government workers even with security clearances to use offline in an as your environment
00:16:15.480government versions of open ai's best best resources right now i think you know and this is something
00:16:24.600that that we're also you know what happened to us when we discovered that we've been lied to so many
00:16:29.000times by people that we'd hired in to like solve problems and handle really important strategic issues
00:16:34.760we just learned never freaking no more we're not going to hire lawyers we're not going to hire like
00:16:39.720accounting consultants we're not going to hire rfp consultants like no we're just not going to do it
00:16:44.440because every time we do we get disappointed at best they're just not very efficient at worst they're
00:16:49.800actively negligent not doing anything and overcharging us and then producing terrible work
00:16:54.440so what's going to happen is and i think it's already starting those those jobs just won't exist
00:17:02.200anymore those departments just won't exist anymore if you are going to be a hostile deep state
00:17:08.840you're going to be eliminated no well i mean this time they're going in with flame
00:17:12.520through earth and i think that they'll actually at first i didn't i thought the deep state would be
00:17:16.280able to fight back but what i've learned is this strategy that trump is doing this administration
00:17:21.880which is just an everything at once in as as aggressively as you can strategy the forces arrayed
00:17:28.760against trump just didn't like they don't know what the to do like they at first it was like okay rakes
00:17:36.360broke we ran away we reformed and now it's like yeah now they're coming back with the flame thrower and
00:17:41.160they're like i learned i learned and we're gonna burn it all down yeah you know they started with
00:17:46.840drain the swamp and they were like totally willing to like keep the riparian environment you know let's
00:17:53.000try to preserve some of this let's not let's not nuke it now no no no no everything no there will be
00:17:59.880nothing left and it shouldn't it should be this should all be done by appointees only now like if i took
00:18:06.200over a department because it is hard to fire people so the way i probably handle it is i just go to
00:18:10.440everyone in the department and be like i've got great news you all can well i mean obviously anyone
00:18:15.000working from home would be fired but i will immediately fire you if you go work from home
00:18:19.560and we don't need you to do any work anymore and they'd be like what do you mean no work anymore
00:18:23.560i'm gonna be like i'm handling all of it i got a little team of you know guys here you guys just don't
00:18:28.760need to do anything at all anymore and then wait because that will give you all the everything you need to
00:18:35.640fire them you're like why are we still still have this entire department when without them i'm able
00:18:41.080to do my the entire department's job and i can guarantee you one competent like small team like
00:18:46.520you and me could easily handle one of these departments jobs well in many ways it's just a lot
00:18:51.320easier because you don't have these layers of morass i mean i one one of the things that hr
00:18:58.040mcmaster described a little bit in his book was kind of all these like different things that had
00:19:04.680to be done with every piece of presidential communication and every little this and that
00:19:09.000and i'm sure that with the original presidents i mean obviously none of this existed and then over
00:19:13.880time there's just been this bureaucratic creep of like oh well with every letter written we have to
00:19:19.480you know make five copies of it and then run it by these three people and like they don't technically do
00:19:24.440anything but they way slow things down and i'm just wondering like how much of this can just fully be
00:19:29.720evaporated eliminated entirely because it just it just seems so so damaging and wrong and i it's but
00:19:38.280what's so encouraging is it coming into this new administration i feel like we're seeing
00:19:43.000the lessons learned another really common theme in hr mcmaster's book he never described doing it
00:19:48.600himself obviously but he talked about it happening all the time which was leaks just like
00:19:54.120everything that he was doing privately within the administration just seemed to be getting leaked
00:19:58.760i think he thought steve bannon if memory serves was like doing a ton of the leaking just like but a
00:20:03.400bunch of people clearly were and basically nothing was airtight within the administration and the same
00:20:08.600thing happened for example at the general services administration there was one career lawyer who leaked
00:20:13.720a draft executive order on federal building architecture which created a huge media controversy
00:20:19.080that hindered its implementation similar with the the doj civil rights division internal emails
00:20:25.240mischaracterizing political directives were leaked to the press to generate opposition and i i don't
00:20:30.600think you can't even count the number of times things were maliciously linked during the administration
00:20:36.520so well i think everyone is saying and anybody who is looking at this and is like oh this is like
00:20:41.160nor this is not normal this is this is the theme of stealing an election this is the same as it's
00:20:47.000worse i mean i don't know like okay maybe it's not worse but it's pretty damn bad no it is really really
00:20:55.400bad you you cannot like this is the same as ignoring democratic processes this is the same as believing
00:21:03.880that you have a right to and and keep in mind all of this is happening in the in the face of you know
00:21:08.520blinken when trump was elected president throughout different federal offices they were giving psychology
00:21:14.920counseling to people because these people couldn't handle that a a a election the democratic process
00:21:22.600that the will of the people was being served not their will but the people's will but yeah that
00:21:27.640their chosen candidate didn't get elected now i recall there used to be some kind of journalistic
00:21:33.080rule or at least standard whereby if you were a journalist you wouldn't vote
00:21:38.520because like you wanted to show that you respected your career and your office enough
00:21:42.440to not have that kind of bias and to not let it seep into your work you know that's failed if
00:21:48.280literally counseling is needed if someone's preferred candidate isn't being elected in the government
00:21:52.600if journalists have the decency to not vote it seems almost to regard that anyone working for the
00:21:58.200federal government should not be allowed to vote while holding their position so this is what i'm really
00:22:03.880worried about now as we're on hiring freezes for example so in trump's second administration one
00:22:10.280of the first things he did was implement a hiring freeze with of course some like notable exceptions
00:22:14.120around like emergency like national security medical care things like that so during his first
00:22:19.720administration there was a there was a hiring freeze an hhs hiring freeze and yet career staff circumvented that
00:22:26.360by backdating start dates on hiring i work to pre-inauguration date they just sharpie that they
00:22:34.840wait how are they not arrested for that that seems extremely illegal it does seem extremely illegal but
00:22:40.440again who's going to arrest them you know when when everyone kind of agrees on these things yeah
00:22:46.040don't get prosecuted anymore i mean even real legit crimes that everyone can agree are bad like that we've
00:22:51.320you know had committed against our companies don't get prosecuted anymore of course no one's gonna go
00:22:56.760anymore and it hasn't been because of the biden administration yep and then even in the again
00:23:03.080back to the dickish national labor relations regional like the in this case regional staff
00:23:08.920on the national labor relations board manipulated case tracking systems to hide cases from political
00:23:14.440appointees or ignored directives on union election protocols until explicitly ordered otherwise so they
00:23:20.280were basically just like actively actively stonewalling but i am really concerned you know considering
00:23:25.400that hiring freezes were circumvented in the past one thing that the trump administration did this week
00:23:32.520was put a freeze on grant spending to make sure that the the grant programs receiving money weren't
00:23:39.640involved in you know gender ideology or a bunch of other things the trump administration says you know we have no
00:23:46.120place spending federal tax dollars on which i agree with what i'm concerned about is a similar kind
00:23:51.160of behavior is like even if for example it is full you know just seeped with gender ideology whoever's
00:23:58.120reporting is going to just fill out some form or write a cover letter and be like no there is no gender yeah
00:24:03.960but well how are they going to get around that i mean like well this time i think we need to we need to rely
00:24:08.360a lot on inside whistleblowers so people who are sick of this like letting people know and i think
00:24:13.960you know all this needs to be taken into context within like the aoc speech recently of like this
00:24:18.520is a nation of laws that remains that is the law that is the constitution and and he just tried to
00:24:25.720sign a piece of paper saying trying to say no we don't have to listen to him it's illegal we don't
00:24:33.320have to treat this seriously it's a joke and that's not to say that what they're trying to do
00:24:39.320isn't serious it is serious and it's like the laws never apply when it's your side you don't
00:24:45.800it's it's laws when you can use them to subjugate people who you disagree with or dehumanize but the
00:24:52.920laws are irrelevant when you are in power and i think that we need to remember always remember that
00:24:58.760that that's the way that they treat the concept of the nation of laws is that the laws don't apply
00:25:04.840to them and so long as that's the case uh and and we try to play by their rules of laws and everything
00:25:12.200like that then then it's just never going to work out you you have to be as aggressive as possible
00:25:17.800as what you're talking about we've already seen this we've already seen people trying to
00:25:21.800re-categorize what dei is we've seen people try to just change the names of departments change the
00:25:27.800names of people's positions and i think that you know there's an army of youtubers out there there's
00:25:32.920an army of really pissed off citizens and they need to have some sort of like a department where
00:25:39.560we can drop this information for them and then maybe ai vet it or something to get this so they
00:25:45.720can't easily be flooded and then you could also have a system where people who have repeatedly dropped
00:25:51.080good tips their accounts get flagged so their tips go to the top to make them more trustworthy
00:25:57.080well no it makes it very hard for the left to just you know flood it with bad information yeah and if
00:26:03.080you do that then you've got a system pretty quickly where it's like oh yeah just get this to like the
00:26:07.160libs of tiptock account and it will immediately head to the federal government that's the way i would
00:26:12.360handle this i could see that yeah yeah no this is this is really important and it's not just about
00:26:20.920the trump administration's agenda being stymied or slowed down what creme points out in his substack
00:26:28.200article after also summarizing some of the points made in the swamp article is that it literally costs all
00:26:36.360taxpayers more when a government is misaligned he actually points out how misaligned civil servants
00:26:42.840increase procurement costs by about one percent of initial contract value contributing six percent of
00:26:48.280the average total cost overruns he he points out how there's a correlation between misalignment and
00:26:53.160delays in contract completion and how the legal and operational misdirection also costs a lot of
00:26:59.400money i mean even just thinking about the people who were paid to write register legislation who wrote
00:27:05.480like about one line a week you know like this is just it's a ton of wasted money and he also points
00:27:13.480out that misalignment agencies like the sec results in politically motivated investigations and penalties
00:27:18.200against firms that are misaligned with the administration so just like everyone hurts you
00:27:23.880know this is this is a really big problem and what we need to keep an eye on i guess as all of this goes
00:27:28.280forward at least according to creme when he when he wrote this article is schedule f so
00:27:34.440there was an executive order issued by donald trump in 2020 in october which is re-issued by the way
00:27:42.760yeah yes um yes because it was rescinded by the biden administration which creates a new category of
00:27:48.840federal civil servant position known as schedule f which basically redefines federal workers as at will
00:27:57.240employees which is the norm in the united states at will basically means you can be fired at any point
00:28:03.720for any reason just immediately you know i i could call anyone who's an at will employee and be like
00:28:10.280you're fired and they're gone and this would do the same to federal workers who cannot do that which is
00:28:16.200also insane to me the the frustrating thing about the first iteration of schedule f was that no employees
00:28:21.880were officially moved into the schedule before president biden refoked the order on january 22nd
00:28:27.000in 2021 oh so it's going to be implemented this time yeah now i was coming in on top of this and so
00:28:35.480we'll see these guys are getting super scy on trump this time let last time they got untransformed they
00:28:42.120don't know what they don't know what's gonna hit them and i'm excited for this yeah i mean they clearly
00:28:46.040didn't expect trump to win again so i would say one whether or not you even like trump's agenda
00:28:51.800you should care about this because it costs you more it causes damage it's a huge waste
00:28:56.920and also you know when your person is in office someday you don't want them to necessarily have
00:29:02.920their mandate completely stymied by democrats never have a problem with this Simone as we've seen
00:29:09.800this is a hundred percent a republican thing because the deep state is well yeah except i think a lot
00:29:14.680of people who identify as democrats probably also don't love the idea of asians being discriminated
00:29:19.880against as college applicants that was the deep state is democrat in the same way the democratic
00:29:25.560party now is a party of the cult there are people who identify if you identify as like a normal democrat
00:29:31.560you're a republican now you're just stupid i'm just saying like you're just stupid you're unaware of
00:29:36.040like what's actually happening you're unaware of like i think a lot of people are i wasn't aware
00:29:42.520of where the democrat party had had gone when i first met you and i was still a democrat i just
00:29:47.800had no idea yeah well yeah and it depends on where you're getting your news and stuff like that like
00:29:51.960if your head's in the sand you're just not gonna know that like yeah because you just assume i'm gay
00:29:58.120yeah like well i believe in you know human dignity and flourishing so obviously i'm a democrat like
00:30:03.880that's that is what i grew up with malcolm i had no idea like what the fuck way is trump's administration
00:30:08.520anti-gay and you're like well the i'm sure there's something here here i i've got a book i'm sure
00:30:13.560that they'll tell me and it's like no no i'm asking you not for you to ask other people to tell you
00:30:19.400because most of those are lies you know and i think with a lot of this it's just that people believe the
00:30:23.960lies you know yeah but yeah so between schedule f and also just not hiring people as they leave the
00:30:33.400government making the government increasingly uncomfortable for them and using ai to fill in the
00:30:39.240gaps where already competent humans couldn't necessarily completely handle everything i think
00:30:45.800could get us through this and make the government a lot more efficient a lot more effective and a lot
00:30:50.120less subject to political bias either way because i believe i think most voters do that if a politician
00:30:56.760gets voted into office with a mandate he should or she should be able to execute on that so yeah
00:31:02.120we'll see all right love you too i have to explain to the audience why we got a call from the school
00:31:11.480today our son octavian is making too many books and also finger guns so finger guns they got mad at him
00:31:23.480for finger guns for finger not even children objects or up in the air well i don't know maybe he's aiming
00:31:31.320it at fellow students they would have told you if he was they want to make this seem as bad as possible
00:31:39.080they also got mad at him for militarized phraseology which it turns out was the term
00:31:44.040fire in the hole they are they and and then they said he tells food poop jokes as a five-year-old i'm
00:31:49.800like what kind of child abuse is this where a five-year-old cannot tell poop jokes what kind of
00:31:57.080child abuse is this we're a five-year-old can't make finger guns i think every every human has to
00:32:03.720learn how to behave with a certain level of decorum in certain environments and that is what separates
00:32:11.640people who are worthy of respect and high office from people who can't stay out of jail
00:32:19.240come on i'll give you i'll let you in on something he's five well i know but i'll also like as i was
00:32:25.720saying that i was thinking about how congress changed its dress code so that yeah for fetterman
00:32:31.000right what do you even wear hoodies and shorts into and and i'd also point out in regards to all of this
00:32:37.080that if the teacher had called me as someone is totally so terrified she might have i would have been
00:32:43.560like oh i see where the confusion is let me explain to you how a gun works and why finger guns are not
00:32:49.800dangerous oh my god welcome he wanted to go he wanted to go to mainstream school in kindergarten
00:32:57.800he needs to learn how to play by those rules and he will get kicked out if we can't teach him how to
00:33:03.880play the rules he'd say like oh he's making poop jokes i mean what kind of jokes should a five-year-old
00:33:09.400be making ma'am do you do you are you going to teach him the finer etiquette of like advanced
00:33:14.680jokeology yeah let's let's teach him dirty lyrics that's far more he's not even making like anti-women
00:33:21.400jokes or cootie jokes or something it's poop jokes they're like it's so inoffensive i don't know what
00:33:27.400to say okay well i do and it's that you guys are a bunch of disgusting hippies