Based Camp - The Genetic Reason Europe Keeps Failing

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be with you today today we are going to be talking about new data

00:00:06.960 that has come out which shows how europe has genetically degraded and changed due to the two

00:00:16.000 world wars and it will i think highlight for people when they say to me malcolm as an american

00:00:23.840 you know you must feel some ethnic kinship with and cultural kinship with the European peoples

00:00:33.560 if you look at like well immigration may not be as big an issue in the United States than it is

00:00:39.240 in Europe because we mostly import Latin Americans and Latin Americans are really just southern 0.88

00:00:46.180 Europeans they're like 20 percent Native American when they are Native American so it's always been 1.00

00:00:52.500 very weird to me that we consider them like so different of people we'll get to that in a second

00:00:57.420 but with europe they're importing lots of you know people from the middle east who are culturally

00:01:02.560 and ethnically very different than them that have differentially higher fertility rates in them

00:01:06.780 and that you you're already beginning to see parts of their society buckled to this you know

00:01:12.780 norms and stuff like this there's places you can go to in london that are nothing like what they

00:01:18.380 are culturally speaking you know 20 30 years ago and they say oh you must be so sad about this and

00:01:24.320 i'm like i'm really quite indifferent like it's it's not the best but europe has already in part

00:01:31.420 been destroyed by not immigrants but white europeans and what the the what became of the 0.96

00:01:38.500 white european culture um their genetic stock has already been significantly degraded to the point 0.93

00:01:44.760 where i just don't know if there's much of utility there like it wasn't the immigrants that took away 1.00

00:01:49.880 germany's nuclear factories it wasn't the immigrants that are making the laws in the uk 0.99

00:01:55.020 which caused people to get arrested for insulting anyone anything like the the guy in scotland

00:02:01.480 arrested for writing islam can be questioned on a wall no it can't no it cannot but no it wasn't 0.50

00:02:09.620 the muslims who made those laws who enforced those laws that was the scottish right yeah 0.99

00:02:16.680 and really it's the ultimate condemnation like they deserve this because they made it 0.94

00:02:22.840 yeah yeah they they made their cultures weak but but why why did they behave at a genetic level so

00:02:30.780 differently from people who appear to be closely related to them in the united states and that's

00:02:36.660 we're going to be talking about in this episode because we have more data on that now. So this is

00:02:42.540 a post about a study. So it's a tweet by economist Luca Rapeto announcing a new paper titled Human

00:02:50.880 Capital and Shocks in Innovation, Evidence from Britain's Lost Generation. And I'll go straight 0.99

00:02:56.220 into what he says about it right here because it's just a fascinating study. Yes. So what are

00:03:03.200 the effects of large human capital shocks on innovation. In a new paper, we study how World

00:03:10.000 War II military deaths across British communities affected local invention over the next decades.

00:03:20.620 We find that places that lost more young men became persistently less innovative. World War

00:03:27.480 two caused a massive loss of young men in britain over 750 000 military deaths heavily concentrated

00:03:34.260 among young cohorts because the war was fought abroad britain experienced large human capital

00:03:39.740 losses without domestic physical destruction so basically it creates an instance where we can see

00:03:46.180 what happens if you just remove a portion of the type of men who go to war without affecting the

00:03:54.100 actual capital infrastructure of a location. This provides a great setting to study a central

00:04:01.260 question in economics. What happens to innovation when communities lose a large share of their young

00:04:06.660 and skilled population? Do level shortages spur innovation or does the loss of human capital

00:04:11.900 reduce it? To study this, we built a new data set linking World War I military records and death

00:04:18.060 records the universe of british patents 1895 to 1979 enter identities and locations um and this

00:04:26.840 allows us to track innovation across 10 000 communities over eight decades oh see that's a

00:04:32.120 lot of data that's come on guys yeah yeah when compared to places with higher versus lower world

00:04:39.760 war one mortality within the same country the main results communities that lost more soldiers

00:04:45.900 became less likely to produce patents in the decades after the war. Quantitatively, a 10%

00:04:52.660 increase in World War I deaths reduces the probability that a parish produces any patent

00:04:58.300 by about 0.09 to 0.12 percentage points. This effect appears during the war but persists for

00:05:07.020 decades up until modern times. The effects are even stronger for high-impact innovations.

00:05:13.880 Exposure to World War I mortality reduces the probability of producing breakthrough

00:05:17.680 patents roughly three times more than the probability of producing any patent.

00:05:23.460 So I'm going to read that again, okay?

00:05:25.260 Exposure to World War I mortality reduces the probability of producing breakthrough

00:05:29.540 patents more than three times the probability of producing, than it hits producing any patent.

00:05:35.220 So basically, not only do you see a reduction in innovation, but you specifically see an

00:05:39.720 outsized reduction in extreme levels of innovation right yeah presumably because

00:05:48.600 the most valiant brave risk takers are also more likely to go out and get themselves killed in a

00:05:55.320 war oh no this is actually a long tail situation that's where all of this is coming from uh but

00:06:00.020 what it means is that when you affect a central statistic you affect the long tails the most

00:06:05.840 oh sure okay that makes sense on a population reduce like if you're talking about a a small

00:06:12.620 reduction like let's say you move the average person to be like you're more likely to have

00:06:19.620 exceptional outliers in a sample size of 1000 than of 10 no that's no no okay sorry yeah i mean

00:06:27.940 obviously that's that's not what i'm talking about reduce through like let's say dysgenic 0.99

00:06:34.100 selection, a population's average IQ by 10%. You reduce the people who would have, even with the

00:06:41.800 population staying the same, appeared in the top 0.5% of intelligence in the population before

00:06:48.960 by something like 98% or 95%, even though you're only dealing with a 10% reduction in the middle,

00:06:56.000 right? And this is a mathematical thing. And it's just useful when you're talking about

00:07:01.580 dysgenics because a lot of people do not know how big and how loud dysgenics hits um and while he's

00:07:08.240 studying this in the context of the war we've got to talk about europe has had a dramatically larger

00:07:13.480 dysgenic impact than the the americas have for a very very long time not just tied to the wars

00:07:21.580 but we'll get to that and any effects you're seeing in britain which had the lowest casualty

00:07:27.080 rate of young men in the war are going to be amplified in places like france and germany and

00:07:31.860 russia oh yeah right so if you were to extrapolate out it's just going to be so much worse

00:07:37.000 yeah and now i'm continuing to go with his takes here um i think the effect is largely genetic

00:07:45.360 which we'll get to in a second but he goes well genetic and cultural which are really closely

00:07:51.200 tied to each other, right? If you wipe out the people who are the most honorable, the most

00:07:58.620 aggressive, the most high risk-taking of a population, those traits are going to also

00:08:05.300 exist within the cultures that they would have raised their children in and would have had

00:08:09.140 children in, right? The type of person who is either genetically or culturally, but those

00:08:15.140 things, again, likely cluster. Because suppose I am a woman raised in a family that doesn't

00:08:19.660 particularly care about trying to skip out of fighting in a war, right?

00:08:24.400 And that only cares about itself.

00:08:26.320 When I raise daughters and they see those same traits in a potential partner,

00:08:31.200 they're more likely to disregard them, right?

00:08:34.840 A man who is honorable is less likely to marry into that, right?

00:08:39.220 Exactly.

00:08:39.940 Yeah.

00:08:41.500 So you get a clustering of genes and cultures when you're

00:08:45.580 talking about this stuff, but to continue here.

00:08:47.680 why does innovation fall we find two main channels existing innovators become less productive

00:08:54.180 and two communities produce fewer successful new innovators both effects contribute to the

00:09:00.060 long-run decline in innovation the productivity decline among innovators is strongest in knowledge

00:09:05.360 intensive sectors such as electricity chemistry physics machinery and these sectors relied heavily

00:09:13.300 on specialized skills and complementary workers. So here is a chart that they put together where

00:09:20.440 you can see where you had the biggest negative effects. And the biggest negative effects

00:09:25.180 are on things like mechanics and electricity. And the lightest negative effects are on things like

00:09:33.120 construction and human necessities, like food and stuff like that, right? So the things that

00:09:39.260 require intellectual horsepower is what's really hit because textiles does not. Some innovators

00:09:46.820 adapt. Innovators who relocate to other communities or work with co-authors experience

00:09:52.180 smaller productivity losses, suggesting that networks and innovative local ecosystems help

00:09:57.140 buffer capital shocks. Overall, the evidence highlights the importance of local human capital

00:10:02.340 and knowledge networks for innovation now i wanted to now go over because i had mentioned this and

00:10:10.000 it's just worth going into more here what what was the relative death rate in the war so in the uk

00:10:17.480 where they're seeing this effect 6.7 percent of males age 15 to 49 were killed this equates to

00:10:24.820 12.3 or 12.5 percent of the men who actually served it's a lot this is in world war one

00:10:32.500 if you look at world war one for france compare this to the 6.7 percent in the uk it was 15 to 17

00:10:40.140 percent oh like well over triple the rate of what was killed in the uk i wonder what percentage of

00:10:48.460 men of military service age are being killed in russia right now germany it's 15 percent

00:10:54.440 if you then go to world war ii in the uk it was only two to four percent in in in germany it was

00:11:04.860 10 to 13 percent although for some cohorts it was as much as 30 to 38 percent some estimate in

00:11:13.740 russia it could have been as high as 40 to 50 percent in some cohorts during world war one

00:11:18.880 still world war ii and world war ii oh god russia russia yeah so let's get to the wider

00:11:26.860 so what effect of all of this okay so i mean i know that demographically russia is already screwed

00:11:34.180 but compare that to now and well under one percent of all russian men have been killed in the current

00:11:39.300 russia ukraine war and then one to two percent of ukrainian men though i mean you know we don't

00:11:44.640 know the data that much it's it's still a ton but it we're not at like world war one or world war

00:11:51.520 two levels yeah not even close not even close it's not even like fractionally there yeah the

00:11:58.420 genetic effects on ukraine which are going to be huge are actually going to come more from the

00:12:04.380 women who fled the country which is interesting fleeing a country during a wartime i think is

00:12:11.660 generally a sign of positive genetic traits. Very different than being somebody who stays

00:12:16.660 and just skirts your service. Because it shows that you have the initiative to go and try to find

00:12:24.420 a better life for your family. And lacking that initiative is really big. If you look at something

00:12:28.800 like the Irish potato famine or something like that, and people talk about how horrible it was,

00:12:33.820 they talk about the horrors of the coffin ships and stuff like that. And they were, they were

00:12:36.540 horrible but what is often not talked about is that pretty much most irish peasants had the

00:12:44.720 choice to leave ireland if they wanted to it was not about a i don't have the money to not leave

00:12:51.060 my house and starve you know now that there's you know roving gangs of of you know you know mad

00:12:58.780 people which what happened during that period you know there's there's stories of like people

00:13:02.340 walking into houses and thinking they were full of of dead people and then like seeing one of the

00:13:06.300 skeletons move and realize it's just severely impoverished like the level of the horror of this

00:13:11.460 but many of those people allowed that to happen to themselves rather than take initiative they

00:13:18.800 were given like free passage to yeah so for people who don't understand why so many of the serfs were

00:13:24.460 given free passage as soon as the landowners realized because this is the way you know serfs 0.99

00:13:29.560 and landowners work oh my god i'm not gonna remotely gonna be able to pay my serfs this year

00:13:34.900 and there had already in food because that is one of the things you paid them in back then

00:13:39.400 and there had already been instances of peasants rising up and killing the landowners when they

00:13:45.100 couldn't pay them during the beginning of the famine most of the lords were like well we got

00:13:50.000 to get them out of here asap you know as many as many of the services i can yeah like it's not like

00:13:55.340 they were being benevolent they were trying to survive as well but also that's makes it all the

00:14:00.440 more believable you know yeah yeah it wasn't that they were being nice or anything like that but

00:14:05.220 they they wanted to get the serfs off the land before everybody started starving and many of

00:14:10.680 them had a benevolent angle as well you know keep that in mind of course no i mean also no one wants

00:14:15.520 like a bunch of people suffering and dying and starving that are under your care that's horrific

00:14:21.680 yeah i would have moved mountains to try to if that was happening with people living on land

00:14:26.940 i was responsible for you know and i'm sure you know these are for the most part good christian

00:14:32.700 men with noblesse oblige you know at least most of them hopefully so but the people didn't want 0.90

00:14:39.580 to leave is the point well no a lot of them did leave a lot of them did leave a lot of them all

00:14:45.100 over the united states not actually as big as you'd think and this is most americans and i when i say

00:14:51.500 say most i mean most i mean over 50 of americans who think that they have irish heritage do not

00:14:58.600 have any meaningful irish heritage they are scots irish and what that meant got a translation error

00:15:06.860 over time because you know three or four generations in you don't have a strong understanding

00:15:11.700 of what the scots irish are anymore and so you communicate that to your kid and when they're

00:15:16.240 communicating to their kids they're like oh we're like a type of irish you know especially after

00:15:21.160 the big irish immigration wave happened and people began to build an idea of irish identity

00:15:27.020 and so then other people wanted that but that's a bit like hearing you know you're a mongoose

00:15:31.720 eating cobra and then somebody being like i'm a mongoose mongoose was somewhere in the name there

00:15:38.280 right it will have a separate video where we will go deeper into the cultural history of the scots

00:15:44.840 irish which which is actually really so if you're wondering which population you're in were your

00:15:50.500 ancestors protestant and were they in the united states before the civil war if those two things

00:15:56.760 are true you are not irish another question were your ancestors in the greater appalachian to let's

00:16:03.420 say texas region or south if they were you were probably scots irish if they were from boston or

00:16:10.340 massachusetts or maybe some waves in like california then you might be irish but it's worth noting here

00:16:18.140 because these two groups didn't like each other they're genetically very different from each other

00:16:21.980 in terms of like genetic genetically and culturally distinct from each other and they it's it's a shame

00:16:29.960 that so many people think this about themselves and don't understand that the traditions and stuff

00:16:34.180 that they're doing has nothing to do with irish history but anyway back to the story here so

00:16:38.940 well actually the scots irish are an important point here so if you go back to the scots irish

00:16:43.400 when they were the Reavers in lower Scotland, like the Ulster Scots, the population that came 1.00

00:16:49.320 to the United States and became one of the dominant populations in the United States

00:16:51.800 was only about 3,300 fighting age men, right? And this became one of the dominant cultures

00:16:58.340 in the United States and the backbone of the MAGA movement as a culture, right? Like it is

00:17:03.240 an incredible, and that movement now is one of the most culturally important movements in global

00:17:07.980 geopolitics. So you can go and start with a very, very small population and have that population

00:17:14.580 absolutely explode and thrive if they have some sort of advantage over other groups that are

00:17:23.000 moving into a region. You have other groups that move into the United States and largely died out,

00:17:29.540 like the Puritan populations. So in fact, the part of the Puritan population that like I'm

00:17:34.560 descended from only survived because it merged with the scots irish population um but most of

00:17:40.580 the the cleaner pure puritan population died out so so it matters a lot you know your culture the

00:17:47.140 way you act whether or not to the point i'm making here you look at an environment like when we talk

00:17:51.580 about the long tail distribution of cultural and genetic innovativeness you're looking at a place

00:17:58.680 like Silicon Valley, right? You know, what was Silicon Valley? Like what, what was the population

00:18:05.320 that was there differentially? It was people who, you know, a hundred years before that, or not even

00:18:11.960 a hundred years before that, you know, during the gold rush had gone out and risked life and limb

00:18:17.140 to move to a place where there was incredibly high reward possibility, but incredibly high

00:18:24.640 risk. And discomfort. And discomfort. And discomfort. And that's also true of the other

00:18:30.060 ethnic populations within Silicon Valley. They were all selected based on this. The Chinese 0.99

00:18:34.880 immigrants that came in the early Chinese waves, this was incredible risk. The Japanese immigrants 1.00

00:18:40.320 who come in these early waves, this was an incredible risk for them. You know, you are

00:18:44.260 getting the cream of the crop in terms of the type of people who are likely to be innovative.

00:18:50.960 And this is true throughout the United States. If you're going all the way to, you know, the edges

00:18:54.160 of the frontier, these are often people and groups that were squeezed like this over and

00:19:00.380 over again. This is why if you look at the United States and you're looking at innovation,

00:19:05.240 you basically see a gradient from the east to the west coast, right? Like with people from the more 0.52

00:19:12.040 frontier environments being on a per person basis, more innovative because they came from

00:19:18.440 ancestral groups that took more and more risks. And then some of them were just like, oh, and we

00:19:23.520 have to keep moving and we have to keep moving and we have to keep moving. And so this is even

00:19:27.420 true. So somebody from Europe today could be like, well, you know, I'm thinking of moving to the 0.99

00:19:32.320 United States, but does this mean that somebody like Malcolm would want me in the United States?

00:19:35.240 It's like, no, the fact that you are thinking of moving and going through this risk means that you

00:19:40.800 are likely part of the stock, culturally speaking, within Europe and genetically speaking,

00:19:47.000 within Europe that is dispositioned to these sorts of risks. Now you could say, well, okay,

00:19:54.320 but then does that mean that the immigrants that Europe is getting right now have a similar effect

00:20:00.420 on the European population? And the answer is no, because Europe has created a scenario where you

00:20:07.300 can immigrate into the countries with not just no risk, but like negative risk. Like the government

00:20:13.300 will pay for your lifestyle. It will set you up in a hotel. It will pay for you to eat. It'll pay

00:20:18.240 for your children. It'll pay for everything. When you set that up, you remove what creates the

00:20:23.620 beneficial effect of the immigrant filter, right? And if I was in charge of the United States, 0.90

00:20:29.260 I'd be trying to replace that effect. I do think life should be differentially harder

00:20:33.220 for first generation immigrants in the United States. That's how you ensure that you get good

00:20:37.000 immigrants. Then you don't need to worry. Like if being an immigrant in the United States

00:20:41.620 is not a pleasant experience. Like it's something like it used to be, like you actually have to

00:20:46.560 work for it, right? I would actually be open to almost infinite immigration, right? You know, 0.87

00:20:52.820 you could come if you can prove that you are contributing demonstrably to the country. And

00:21:00.860 if you aren't, you know, we just let you die, right? Like that's the mindset you needed. And 1.00

00:21:06.800 that was the mindset within the United States for a long time. And it was in other, and this is

00:21:11.640 again why I say we don't have to worry as much about Latin American immigrants as Europe does,

00:21:17.340 right? It has to worry about the Middle Eastern immigrants and the African immigrants, because 0.99

00:21:21.780 the Latin American immigrants are coming from Latin American countries. And when I talk about

00:21:27.040 this immigrant selection effect, you have that across Latin America as well.

00:21:33.920 Well, there's also the magnification. So each time there's an additional immigration step, you get a magnification of the risk taking, discomfort tolerance, willingness to deal with new and novel situations and adapt, which I think is another reason why Silicon Valley historically has been such this magnet for risk taking innovators who are capable of sitting with discomfort and going for broke and building amazing things.

00:22:01.200 because first they they descended from people who left various parts of europe and sometimes on the

00:22:07.180 way would like go from russia to germany to france like they there was a process before they actually

00:22:11.980 made it across the pond and then often they would go from like new england then to chicago then to

00:22:18.540 like the midwest and then all the way to california like there are multiple points at which

00:22:23.520 maybe isn't like and this is can be across generations people basically re-upped their

00:22:28.240 investment in willingness to be risk takers. And so I guess you can even kind of see this

00:22:34.220 cultural difference when you compare longstanding families in, say, New England versus those in

00:22:43.460 California who've been there for many generations. There's sort of a behavioral difference. And it's

00:22:48.380 not, I think, just like the climate and the local businesses. They're very shaped by the

00:22:55.820 evolutionary bottlenecks that are associated with those areas and so when when well okay so now to

00:23:02.820 the question because somebody's gonna be asking they're gonna be like well if latin america was

00:23:05.680 shaped by this as well like why is latin america like poor and corrupt and it's because they're

00:23:13.900 catholic and catholic cultures are much more when they are in large countries they don't have this

00:23:21.420 effect as much when their countries are very small but when they're in larger bureaucracies

00:23:24.980 we'll do a separate episode on this just much more likely to be less innovative more poor and

00:23:29.540 more corrupt if you have traveled extensively like i've lived in both latin america for a large part

00:23:35.340 of my life and i've lived in italy for a large part of my life latin america in italy feel very

00:23:41.060 very similar to each other latin america and spain feel very very similar to each other latin america

00:23:47.860 and portugal feel very similar to each other latin america and ireland a lot of people don't know this

00:23:52.920 because they haven't left like Dublin and looked at what actual Irish suburbs look like

00:23:56.660 feels very very similar. I want you guys to give me examples of things that Catholics

00:24:02.180 and Protestants have in common. God this is actually quite hard. Anything at all a small 0.99

00:24:08.780 thing even. Okay so right. God I'm actually drawing a blank here to be honest. Uh Protestants 1.00

00:24:17.840 sir richard okay so that's another difference and i'm not sure that's actually i mean is that true

00:24:24.060 i would say so yeah i suppose that's fair enough so obviously you know i have my thoughts on that

00:24:32.320 but we're talking about the selection effect from this the population the larger point of this

00:24:38.220 episode is the population in europe even when you're talking about protestant populations in

00:24:42.320 europe is is not the same as the population in the united states and i'll put some graphs on screen

00:24:47.300 that i think are going to really illustrate this for people uh if you and i think you've seen this

00:24:51.940 this graph simone this is a graph of u.s versus eu area gdp current prices in trillions of dollars

00:25:01.540 and what you can see here is after 2007 europe's economy basically stopped growing whereas the u.s

00:25:09.740 is differentially taking off and so people can say well why did it look like europe partially

00:25:15.820 recovered after the war. And the main reason it looked like is because they were being propped up

00:25:19.740 by a global innovative system headed by the United States. And they were profiting off of that due to

00:25:27.400 one, the illusion caused by rebuilding after the war period and benefiting from a special

00:25:33.520 relationship that Europe historically had with the United States. And as that special relationship

00:25:39.040 degrades it is us cutting a chain on our legs off europe was dragging us back culturally and 0.57

00:25:49.520 economically speaking they they stopped innovating a long time ago they stopped producing a long time

00:25:55.820 ago and innovation going forwards in europe one due to the energy costs of trying to go green

00:26:02.340 with everything putting on all these regulations doing stuff like what germany did taking down

00:26:06.360 their nuclear stations is going to prevent massive AI development within Europe, which is the key to

00:26:12.080 the future of human civilization. So, and the Muslims didn't do all that to them, right? And

00:26:16.540 in addition to that, their bans on AI training on their data removes their cultural history

00:26:23.700 from the evoked set of AI that are trained, right? And so they've already lost out of being part of

00:26:31.060 the AI psyche. Whereas you're going to have America be part of the AI psyche. You're going

00:26:34.620 have china be part of the ai psyche you even have islamic countries if you ask a guy about islamic

00:26:39.140 type issues it goes really far into like a la akbar mode um and we'll start like ending every

00:26:45.280 sentence with like a i know because i tried to like engage it about the quran and it like goes

00:26:49.500 crazy that's so weird well i mean sort of convergent attractor states you know if our

00:26:57.720 brains are operating similar to llms it would show that you can get islamic radical llms just 0.99

00:27:04.700 by priming them to think like which is fascinating but anyway when people see something like europe

00:27:14.780 rotting like this right and they go how do you view it like how do you see europe i see it the

00:27:24.440 way predator would see it or something like that. Like when I'm looking at the future of human

00:27:28.600 civilization, I am saying, okay, who are the relevant players who might be a useful ally

00:27:34.760 and who might have territory or infrastructure that could be useful to the descendants of me

00:27:41.640 and my useful allies and won't be able to defend it. The thing that Europe is creating right now

00:27:48.200 is cultures that are unproductive and not able to defend themselves. So you can move into these 1.00

00:27:57.800 cultures. This is also one of the ironic things about Islamic culture. And we'll get to this on 1.00

00:28:03.840 the episode that we'll do more on Scott's Irish. But if you take Scott's Irish culture, this

00:28:09.720 incredibly anti-anti-anti-pertentiousness, anti-elitist, anti-orchestra, anti-Hollywood,

00:28:20.120 anti-do-things-our-way, low-culture-way, which in modern days looks nerdy and anime,

00:28:25.780 but historically looked folk music and et cetera. You take this culture, right? This is how it has

00:28:32.140 preserved itself against the urban monoculture. And it breeds and wins in the territories where

00:28:38.580 bread and one by adopting like when they would move into Native American territories they just

00:28:43.540 adopt their ways they then they were known differentially for doing this where the Puritans

00:28:47.900 wouldn't now you'll note that Scots Irish culture has no Native American culture left in it but it

00:28:53.220 was very aggressive at adopting it during this period so it adopted their ways where it had

00:28:58.680 utility to them but stripping out a lot of the mysticism a lot of the woo because it's a very

00:29:03.300 anti-woo sort of a culture. And because it didn't believe in accumulating large amounts of wealth,

00:29:10.020 it stayed largely poor, which allowed it to spread, right? When you are okay with staying poor,

00:29:16.520 unlike normal conquering populations, like say the Vikings or something like that, that didn't

00:29:20.300 have a big genetic impact, you don't spread as quickly because you want to accumulate wealth

00:29:25.300 from the local population. If you're okay with staying poor, then you're not doing that. You're

00:29:28.700 intermarrying as fast as you can and then what did the culture end up doing is it ended up after they

00:29:35.020 gained power the first president from this culture was andrew jackson attempting to wipe out the

00:29:39.980 native population the population that they were being friendliest with well not friendly they

00:29:44.220 would also kill them the most but they adopted their ways the most now if you're looking at

00:29:48.220 something like a new like let's say muslim europe that would be incredibly susceptible like no 1.00

00:29:54.380 culture on earth is as susceptible to a scots irish cultural tactic as islamic culture because 1.00

00:30:01.260 it has techniques built into it that force it to accept non-muslim outsiders with some rules that

00:30:10.880 make it harder for those people and so if you can stay innovative and technologically capable while

00:30:17.700 staying higher fertility than them they in a lot of ways where people talk about like muslim

00:30:23.500 immigration into europe just growing their population until they can replace the existing 0.64

00:30:27.500 like then they grab the laws and they take hold of things yes but when they take hold of things

00:30:34.000 they merely make it less pleasant for the existing population they don't take complete control of the

00:30:40.000 geography and so that allows other minority populations to move into their territory and 0.77

00:30:44.800 eventually out compete them which is a very interesting sort of phenomenon basically what

00:30:49.740 i'm saying is yes europe is rotting but that only makes it easier for my future descendants 0.87

00:30:53.660 to operate with impunity was in that territory and this is also you know when i look geopolitically

00:30:58.580 this is this is the way i'm looking at the world right like looking at the future geopolitics of a

00:31:04.180 region like the middle east and i say oh it's actually you know really good for the jewish

00:31:09.660 population which does have a really high fertility rate and high economic and technological

00:31:14.520 productivity right now the core reason they can't do whatever they want and they're basically

00:31:19.120 realizing that they can do whatever they want now, is because the cultural force that was pushing

00:31:24.260 against them is the European cultural force, which is now globally largely irrelevant, right?

00:31:31.340 And you can also look within the United States or within the GOP, and you see the faction of the GOP

00:31:35.840 pushing against this is the extremely low fertility Catholic integralist faction. People like, you 0.98

00:31:42.260 know, Nick Fuentes and stuff like that, that just aren't genetically long-term relevant to the

00:31:46.560 country are culturally long-term relevant to the country so if we're looking at like where

00:31:50.760 relationships look moving forwards you're going to see increasingly strong players just acting

00:31:56.400 with impunity against weak players i think this explained what seemed fairly paradoxical to people

00:32:02.820 which is us being very supportive of israel in both the gaza and iranian wars but turning against

00:32:10.020 Israel in the intermittent period when they started to be like, oh, I need money. I'm 1.00

00:32:16.160 discriminated against. And I was like, oh, you're weak. That's pathetic. Get out. I don't want to

00:32:22.220 be friends with you anymore. And I think that this is increasingly what we're going to see

00:32:27.080 is a world where people who try to earn sympathy by showing off their weakness just earn disgust.

00:32:34.880 And because this strategy worked for such a long time for so many groups, I think some people are going to take a long time to adjust to this and to come up with a new strategy.

00:32:47.520 And they might end up getting hurt in the meantime because of this empathetic momentum that they've had to unlearn.

00:32:56.560 this idea of global friendship that a portion of american culture that was dominant at the time

00:33:05.800 post-war war ii like global capitalist world economy that's largely degrading i think was

00:33:11.960 in the american mindset it's just in terms of anything we would want even even something like

00:33:16.880 this war right now as i've pointed out iran's core strategy and people are like oh they're

00:33:21.160 letting some chinese tankers through and it's like barely any are functionally going through even

00:33:26.680 though they have technically let some through choking off the straighter vermute differentially

00:33:31.820 hurts everyone other than america yes you hurt the global economy you hurt everyone but

00:33:37.040 differentially that like few things could be better for the united states i mean that's why

00:33:42.420 we've seen an explosion in the dollar and a big hit in the euro since this has happened and china

00:33:48.080 economically panicking since this has happened because this is fundamentally a good thing for

00:33:55.400 the united states if you're talking about us versus other people right now obviously it's a

00:34:01.780 net law for everyone when you're talking about global economic reduction but but it that's also

00:34:07.060 worth us being aware of in terms of how we act in the future and i think people when they look at

00:34:13.340 the United States and they see America move more towards this MAGA mindset, part of what they're

00:34:19.700 seeing is America moving more towards the frontiersman mindset and the Scotts-Irish 0.98

00:34:26.480 mindset, which I think have been the better parts of American culture historically. And that it

00:34:31.700 means that America is going to likely be more and more ruthless as it moves forwards in this sort

00:34:38.460 of a context thoughts simone yeah i think i largely agree with you and i think it's under

00:34:45.580 discussed one because the prenatalist movement is is accused frequently of being obsessed with

00:34:53.400 the great replacement theory it's under discussed that prominent prenatalists including us kind of

00:34:59.580 don't even see western civilization as existing in europe largely anymore because the parts of it 0.98

00:35:05.400 that we felt were contributing to human betterment,

00:35:09.580 one, have largely disappeared from Europe,

00:35:13.000 genetically speaking.

00:35:14.640 But then beyond that,

00:35:15.680 anything that's left is being rendered completely inert

00:35:19.780 by the EU regulatory structure

00:35:22.940 and even national regulations that are preventing them.

00:35:26.120 It's not just the EU regulatory structure.

00:35:27.960 It is British regulatory structure as well.

00:35:31.700 We have a lot of experience.

00:35:33.080 And German, like all the local ones too.

00:35:35.040 It's not just the EU, but the EU does make everything kind of impossible.

00:35:37.780 Well, I want to elevate, because right now we'll talk about Britain in this context.

00:35:42.400 You know, we have context with the best of the best in Britain.

00:35:45.740 Simone got her graduate degree at Cambridge.

00:35:47.920 I got my undergraduate degree at St. Andrews, which for people who don't know, it frequently

00:35:53.400 in league tables ranks above Oxford and Cambridge in the league tables as the best university

00:35:57.620 in the UK.

00:35:58.400 It has a huge out-of-UK population within Europe, so I get to meet many other Europeans.

00:36:02.800 And in addition to that, we get to go to things like we just got our ARC invitations again this year, which is like the big conservative conference for like elite conservative influencers in Europe.

00:36:14.780 So I go to Europe and I see in the UK, I see what the quote unquote conservatives think and act like, and they are so blitheringly boring and they lack vitalism.

00:36:28.380 And it's like a gray, disgusting slab. I mean, Simone, give me your thoughts on this.

00:36:35.860 Yeah. Well, I mean, it's, it's just kind of, it's sad and depressing. And our favorite people in the

00:36:41.920 UK, among them are included, weirdly, although not all of them are in the UK anymore, people who are

00:36:49.660 either first or second generation immigrants to the UK. Yeah, that's true. They're among the few

00:36:56.740 who are either themselves or from families of people who are again risk takers and willing to

00:37:01.280 like move for opportunity when you've got to keep in mind like when i when i talk about people being

00:37:05.480 like genetically risk-taking and you trace back like let's say my family history right like okay

00:37:11.500 yes many parts of my family come from the very beginning of american history right like like the

00:37:19.120 the first settlers but other parts of my family where where do they come from india wait malcolm

00:37:26.940 you don't look indian what do you mean they came from india it's like because they were the first 0.68

00:37:31.700 wave of calling immigrants to india set up in india then india became a less fun place to be

00:37:38.180 a colonizer and then they moved to the united states because you know they they it was what's

00:37:44.020 the hot what's the hot place to colonize today yeah um and so i i do think you see this sort of

00:37:50.200 a predilection within some families culturally and genetically and so when she's talking about like

00:37:55.760 europe being cut i really cannot overstate this you just feel this actually so sargon of akad is

00:38:04.240 a channel that i really like i you know in the early days i really liked his content in terms

00:38:10.040 of ideas, in terms of beginning to build the sort of new right movement that's evolved online.

00:38:15.620 But when I watch his content today, if you see the energy and style with which it's delivered,

00:38:25.280 I think you can really see and sort of in a highlighted way, see the difference between

00:38:30.460 this American culture and this British culture, which is it's just sort of sad about the state

00:38:37.480 of the world sort of a depressed resignment you know grit your upper teeth you know march through

00:38:43.840 this aren't things terrible but or in contrast i i just don't see the irreverent enthusiasm

00:38:48.980 there's not a lot of excitement about the future it's not a lot of activity damming it you know

00:38:55.160 yeah like we're gonna take over let's take over europe let's take over wherever let's get it

00:39:01.740 everything's gonna be ours soon we're gonna take the space this is gonna be amazing look at the

00:39:06.880 progressives they have no kids we've already won what a fun day it is to be in a movement where

00:39:11.700 we've already won and you don't you don't see that there and when you go to like their conferences

00:39:17.000 what are they doing they're like they hand mewling over like pornography bans and stuff like that 0.99

00:39:23.280 which as i've pointed out like the factions that need something like that that protect themselves

00:39:28.800 through banning things rather than just you know telling their kids pornography will weed out the

00:39:34.540 weak people. And if you can resist it, then good for you. Don't be weak. You know, use things like

00:39:39.940 arousal. I've mentioned this in other episodes, but I think it's one of the most important

00:39:44.540 cultural lessons that I would take away. Like if I was another person trying to learn how to get

00:39:49.500 through the erotization of the internet and stuff like that with my kids is sexuality should be

00:39:55.480 viewed the way that coyotes use it to lure out domestic dogs to kill and eat them, right? Like

00:40:02.140 in that analogy be the kaya right use it against those who are weaker than you we have an episode 0.68

00:40:07.880 that has never gone live called stop maxing our daughters which i should get up for one day 1.00

00:40:11.680 but the point being is you can use your sexuality to win at specific games right and i mean i very

00:40:22.800 much was doing that when i met you simone i was using you for money and labor this is true 0.85

00:40:27.220 well you you know giving me your savings you let me live with you you and you were paying for the

00:40:34.440 apartment and you i think we split did we split red i don't even remember ever for the one in

00:40:39.080 alameda oh yeah no not not that one no yeah okay fair but the point here being is the there this

00:40:47.580 is this is something you can functionally do and it is a way that you can functionally approach

00:40:52.320 these things and that when you see sexuality that way the idea that you would want to protect

00:40:57.040 yourself from it comes across as just such a fundamentally sort of prey perspective right

00:41:03.400 well if we ban all of this and we ban all of this and we can be safe and our people can be safe

00:41:09.040 instead of like no be stronger and if you are weak then you deserve the dust pin of history

00:41:14.800 right but this is this is a different cultural perspective than you have in a place like the UK

00:41:19.840 where it's like let's all band together to try to get through this and stiff upper lip and

00:41:25.460 everything like that and it doesn't it doesn't work well against the urban monoculture it's very

00:41:30.060 bad at resisting the urban monoculture and the the various cultural approaches that i've seen taken

00:41:34.620 in germany and in places like france like there is a great institute in france that's fighting

00:41:40.260 the urban monoculture oh yes yeah it's funding pro natalist initiatives and everything like that

00:41:45.540 like really cool like it wouldn't it be cool if we had a giant amount of money to fund pro natalist

00:41:49.320 initiative in the United States. But it's fundamentally playing with its hands tied behind

00:41:53.500 the back, because it sees itself as collectivist and Catholic above all else. You know, very much

00:41:59.720 like the old monarchism of France, instead of America's, you know, sort of cowboy enthusiasm,

00:42:06.800 everybody out for themselves in the week deserve what happens to the week, right? And, and weak

00:42:12.320 here can mean technologically, economically, but also comes to things like sexuality, as I've

00:42:17.160 pointed out but this this mindset i do not think can fight against urban monoculture because any

00:42:24.680 mindset that takes the collectivist like we all need to work together approach is very easy to

00:42:29.280 infiltrate for a parasite that is specifically designed to eat and destroy bureaucracies or large

00:42:38.420 structured bureaucracies thoughts simone no that makes sense it's it's sad but i think yeah i i

00:42:46.340 This is the first time I've ever seen, as of this publication, seen a podcast talking about the fact that totally independent of immigration.

00:42:58.720 Because everyone's like, immigration's ruining Europe. 1.00

00:43:01.060 And they're totally missing the fact that you can totally remove all the immigration and you're still going to see a huge portion of the problem. 0.74

00:43:08.780 No, yeah.

00:43:09.300 Europe lost on its own.

00:43:12.380 like like the the most destructive laws and decisions to the european people are still

00:43:22.060 being implemented and voted on by people who are white and of the original or dominant culture

00:43:29.560 within those regions yeah and and and that makes it like very hard now if they can fix it i'm open

00:43:39.260 to them becoming a strong future ally for my attention. I think there's still hope. If you're

00:43:44.560 in Europe, there is still absolutely hope because we're entering an age of techno feudalism where

00:43:49.940 you can be involved in communities and fiefdoms without necessarily being physically located

00:43:56.780 there or not being physically located there all the time. The primary concern is in what areas

00:44:02.100 are you going to start to see supply chains falling apart and just life becoming very

00:44:06.420 uncomfortable if you don't have a great off the grid setup for example we have some family with

00:44:13.340 a lot of connections and family still existing in is it Romania or is it Poland right now but

00:44:19.160 like they were talking about how gas has become so expensive that now basically everyone just has

00:44:23.600 to share one car and in certain areas if they're more rural because of the the straight and form

00:44:29.400 moves being kind of not very functional right now because of the conflict and how just this one

00:44:36.100 little element of global trade breaking, making life incredibly difficult, expensive, and

00:44:41.580 impossible. You know, people living on very, very tight fixed incomes or no income at all

00:44:46.320 suddenly being like, well, okay, I guess if I need to go to the hospital now, it's just not

00:44:49.880 going to happen. Like gas stations being shut down. So that's the primary concern is more like,

00:44:55.340 okay, once you sort of go off the grid or become more independent culturally and associate with

00:45:00.860 commercial and social communities that are unmoored from your physical location that are more like

00:45:05.840 internet-based tribes of the biology-style network state, are you going to be in an area

00:45:11.140 that is sufficiently safe and sufficiently supplied for you to survive physically? I think

00:45:16.340 that's the bigger question. But I don't, we know many Europeans who are absolutely fantastic, 1.00

00:45:21.300 who are very innovative, who are very willing to take risks. You know, it's not like they're

00:45:24.380 all gone. It's just, I think this is more about a tipping point of a population, you know?

00:45:31.020 Well, I mean, to the extent that they're gone, just to give you guys an understanding,

00:45:34.660 the when you look at the united states and you look at the states that we think of as bad

00:45:39.600 poor states right like you know mississippi alabama something like that england the average

00:45:45.220 income in england is less than the average income in the lowest income state in the united states

00:45:50.020 yeah so and and i'm open to europe becoming strong again but you know i i do find we don't

00:45:58.880 see a pathway to it unfortunately in potentially genetic perspective i find weakness viscerally

00:46:04.320 disgusting. Like it's repellent. And this is also one of the reasons why I have been okay with

00:46:10.460 partnering with countries like Israel, even when they screw us around frequently, is because at 0.79

00:46:15.220 least they're acting with strength. And they seem to have a future, whereas I don't see what Europe's

00:46:21.860 future is, or why I should care about what they're doing in their death throes. And it's not just us

00:46:27.820 saying this, you can see through both the words and actions of many leaders in our current United

00:46:32.640 States presidential administration now. Europe is not an ally to the faction of America that's

00:46:38.740 going to survive. But I think what I would like to say is what I would like to believe,

00:46:42.540 at least what I feel is that our stance is pretty close to that of the United States per their,

00:46:49.160 what, November 25 foreign engagement policy or foreign strategy policy document that they

00:46:55.420 released, which is we're writing off mainstream Europe essentially, but we are very excited to

00:47:01.980 and happy to and interested in partnering with the innovative renegades that remain in europe

00:47:07.560 because they are there and yeah they are there the question is can they take back their countries

00:47:15.040 but i don't think they can maybe i mean who knows they can maybe they can start techno fiefdoms in

00:47:21.020 city states that start to become possible to create in europe as time goes on from my perspective

00:47:25.980 like when i look at a place like europe or something like that because it has been so

00:47:29.780 taken over by this memetic virus, it's like a hive of a virus that is fundamentally hostile to

00:47:35.880 humanity. And it's not that there aren't still healthy people living amongst this hive, but

00:47:42.880 their lives are very, very hard because they are living in an anti-human hive, an anti-vitalist

00:47:50.060 hive. Yeah, it's just so much harder. Yeah, I guess what you're saying is, in other words,

00:47:53.980 The headwinds of an innovative, creative, smart person in Europe are so much higher

00:47:59.620 than like the headwinds that our kids are going to face growing up in the United States.

00:48:04.020 And I suspect most of the Europeans who I really like and who are part of the broader

00:48:08.140 prenatal movement will eventually migrate somewhere because it's just so hard to see

00:48:12.200 a future or maybe one of the countries gets taken back.

00:48:15.060 Maybe there's some big movement.

00:48:16.340 That would be great.

00:48:17.440 But it requires starting to look for strengths and like strengths instead of this reflexive,

00:48:23.460 which is key to the urban monoculture, elevation of weakness. 0.85

00:48:27.280 One thing I'll say is if you're young, unmoored, single, or maybe not,

00:48:32.620 and living in Europe and smart, and you're like,

00:48:34.980 I don't really know what to do right now,

00:48:37.320 consider applying to Bologi's network school in Singapore

00:48:40.860 for an extremely reasonable amount.

00:48:43.340 Basically, you can go live and work there.

00:48:44.720 It includes everything, your apartment, your food, gym membership,

00:48:49.000 an amazing network of really interesting.

00:48:50.840 Talk about selective pressures, right?

00:48:52.360 Like there's even an IQ test to, to apply for network school.

00:48:56.040 We know because we applied, I mean, we got in, but I, I, I didn't apply.

00:48:59.940 I stopped at the IQ test.

00:49:01.140 I was like, you didn't want to take the IQ.

00:49:02.840 Okay.

00:49:03.040 Well, dude, if they let me in there, you know, I don't like being like that.

00:49:07.480 Okay.

00:49:07.680 Well, anyway, what I'm saying though, is in terms of modern places now where you're going

00:49:12.440 to get really interesting vortexes of, or like areas where uniquely smart people have

00:49:18.260 selected to go.

00:49:19.080 I mean, like Brian Chow, who's there right now, that, that is one of the places where I would

00:49:23.520 encourage young people of roughly like in their early to mid twenties who are not having yet put

00:49:29.640 down roots to kind of just experience what it's like to kind of get warmed up on becoming itinerant

00:49:35.260 and moving for opportunity. And I do think that going there is one of those things that will

00:49:39.200 create more opportunity. If you are there for a short amount of time with like a sense of purpose

00:49:44.820 and intent, I think just going there and hoping that your life is going to get figured out isn't

00:49:48.440 a good idea. It's kind of like with LSD for treating mental disorders or like other hallucinogenic

00:49:53.740 medications or substances. People who go in, and this is just what the scientific, the peer-reviewed

00:49:59.120 scientific research says, if you just like trip, like with no intent, no guidance, et cetera, like

00:50:05.720 you're not going to really make a lot of productive change mentally. But if you go in very intent

00:50:11.280 driven, like, hey, I'm going to work on my PTSD. I'm going in with, you know, an expert who's going

00:50:15.420 to help me kind of navigate this i'm going in to try to fix this and address this issue

00:50:18.880 they can see really amazing results and that's kind of what this is is it is a a trip in

00:50:24.840 career and disruption you're going to have to grow back from a techno feudalistic perspective

00:50:29.960 if you want any hope of retaking anything i think that's the most realistic and the best

00:50:34.520 practice session for that right now if you want something practical and actionable right now i

00:50:38.460 say apply to network school let's do it yeah that's one thing i mean there's other things

00:50:43.440 you could do apply to founders fun you if you're if you're young enough to do something like that

00:50:47.600 apply to mercatus yeah on the emerge adventures yeah so yeah those those are just i think a lot

00:50:53.060 more selective i'm just thinking if i was able to get into network school it can't be that bad

00:50:59.420 simone you're an exceptionally intelligent person you were top of your class at cambridge

00:51:04.380 like i know i do not understand how you you literally at her undergrad which is a giant

00:51:11.440 american school gw she was literally top of her entire class simone you do not huge embarrassment 1.00

00:51:18.220 for you it was a huge embarrassment but like they don't charge you to apply i'm just saying try it

00:51:26.540 someone try it and if someone does try it like way in the comments i'm curious or has tried it

00:51:30.840 because i i'm i'm very intrigued by it and i think it's a really great

00:51:34.360 short-term opportunity for someone to get themselves unstuck from what might be an

00:51:40.160 ossifying or like kind of bad place to be right now. And I don't know if I would want to be

00:51:45.440 as a young 20 something in the UK or in Romania or Poland or Germany right now. Would you?

00:51:52.380 No. Why are you like discouraging people from applying to network school? Because we can't

00:51:57.540 offer them somewhere to stay. I don't know. I think there's other things they could apply to,

00:52:00.060 but yeah, sure. Apply for an Emergent Ventures grant. If you have something interesting to pitch,

00:52:05.100 apply for network school and yes, apply for some kind of founder's fun thing. And if you have a

00:52:09.000 startup, apply for Y Combinator. Go for it. Absolutely. I totally agree with you. It's just

00:52:14.000 that Y Combinator and their speedrun program and Emergent Ventures and Founders Fund, extremely,

00:52:19.280 extremely, extremely small classes and extremely selective and also much more well-known. Whereas

00:52:24.380 network state is one of those things that people haven't yet figured out yet. And so you want to

00:52:29.200 get in before everyone knows about it. You want to buy your Tesla stock before it becomes a huge

00:52:35.480 meme, right? This is the time to buy. I'm saying buy network state, sell founders. I like founders

00:52:42.360 one too, but it's just that they're, they're overvalued now is like a, you know, an opportunity

00:52:46.760 stock. Right. And, and I would say to sort of close this out, the wider point I'm making here

00:52:53.540 is this view that people have towards whether it's per natalism or the new right or anything

00:53:00.580 like that it's some sort of like pan white ethno you know anxiety movement is just at least from

00:53:09.700 our perspective fundamentally wrong where i believe that there are ethnic and cultural

00:53:13.320 differences between groups europe for example is a bigger enemy to my agenda than most other

00:53:21.080 active players because they are the hive of the parasite right you know and as such and and they 0.99

00:53:28.040 And it is within the white population that that parasite is most densely concentrated. 0.96

00:53:33.780 And so, and the populations that if there are populations replacing them will simply be easier for my descendants to deal with if they decide to oppose them. 0.97

00:53:43.600 You know, it's, that's just the way I see things globally, right?

00:53:47.740 And I think this is an increasing view among the American right.

00:53:51.020 Yeah.

00:53:52.220 All right. Love you, Simone.

00:53:53.500 I love you too, Cortez.

00:53:58.040 I and I still don't know why he would do it like why he wasn't just covetous of it for himself

00:54:03.720 and then I come down and Tyson was like I wanted you to come down and you didn't and I was

00:54:09.220 disappointed and I'm like well you didn't she knows how to use the intercom system doesn't she 1.00

00:54:15.320 I wanted you to come down and you didn't so I was disappointed

00:54:18.480 she lets it be known she is she doesn't pull punches you know she

00:54:25.340 that she literally believes that she poops rainbows i can't even you know that's like

00:54:33.100 the best part i've never i i thought it was just an expression you know

00:54:38.380 people didn't actually think that they pooped rainbows

00:54:43.740 maybe this is the only one in the world but no it can't be

00:54:49.100 if our child did it other children have done it maybe

00:54:54.440 i don't know you're pretty exceptional and strange so coffee zilla recently did a youtube video on

00:55:03.060 aid fix and out of nowhere in the wild he mentions one of your family members

00:55:10.400 oh yeah yeah coffee zilla did he mention him positively negatively well just in the context

00:55:18.920 of is it called metamorph ai his his company for people who don't know one of my cousins runs one

00:55:24.300 of the largest and most used AI companies for deepfakes and has created many viral deepfake

00:55:31.160 images. Yeah. I'm going to show you some magic. Hundreds of millions of people spent over billion

00:55:38.140 minutes absorbing it. The face swap with Tom Cruise. You haven't seen it? No. You got to see

00:55:43.880 this. Incredible. I don't know what I'm talking about. It's crazy. I believed it though. So did

00:55:48.640 the rest of the world. The rest of the world. Yeah. And then it became very scary very fast.

00:55:51.620 okay tiktok impression time this is nuts yeah and i was like let's make another one tom cruise has

00:56:00.240 become a viral hit on tiktok or has he this is serious breaking news congress has held hearings

00:56:06.520 on deep fakes and ai and the fbi tells nbc news they're following the rapidly developing technology

00:56:11.260 closely the ultimate uh gauge for all of time i'll believe it when i see it yeah and now maybe

00:56:18.920 no longer. The future is here.

00:56:23.140 The AI industry is just like Malcolm and his family, right? Like another one of my cousins

00:56:29.120 runs that AI. Aurora. Aurora. Yeah. People are always protesting, taking jobs. And of course,

00:56:37.300 you've got us with rfab.ai trying to make better agents, you know, and there are other family

00:56:42.660 members doing stuff I can't talk about that. The two that are very public about what they're

00:56:45.880 working on we like to i guess colin collins is you guys like to be on the cutting edge of

00:56:53.120 whatever is happening we were last generation i see no reason like we were super important

00:56:59.800 in the setting up of the santa fe institute into what it became

00:57:03.300 yeah i know it's seen it as like for the 80s and the 90s like the center of intellectualism

00:57:11.660 epstein kept wanting to get involved in that i actually searched my dad he did he donated

00:57:17.700 significantly to it have you asked your dad yet if you ever met epstein your mic's not coming

00:57:24.420 through when you have a habit of throwing your electronics on the floor look you and i have

00:57:30.420 exactly the same mic my computer is way older than yours the only difference between our mics

00:57:37.020 lived experience is that mine doesn't get regularly thrown on the floor and or put within

00:57:43.700 the reach of children and yours does i think they believe that they're pummeling devices they're

00:57:51.180 like oh look at this a new stick with which i can hit someone okay so yeah did you have to ask

00:57:58.700 mischaracterization there her mic doesn't get moved from where it is because she one doesn't 0.99

00:58:05.780 do editing and two doesn't take care of the kids in her room and just bans them from her room 1.00

00:58:11.980 where i don't infants that can't grab microphones you think he's gonna go grab your microphone who's

00:58:18.840 in my office all day octavian is your microphone in your office no it's not it's in my bedroom so

00:58:25.440 but anyway yeah so i i checked the email list and i didn't find him but he did in the conversation

00:58:29.680 as soon as i asked him about it i'm not sure if he had somewhere to be here your dad

00:58:35.660 yeah somewhere to be in his super busy life anyway but fun fun to sort of be at the center

00:58:47.580 of everything that's happening oh the email is yeah no no yeah i i checked the databases too

00:58:52.460 for your dad's name yeah nowhere to be seen i did find my uncle's name but it was only

00:58:57.100 it wasn't his email directly it was other they weren't in communication

00:59:03.660 for clarification my uncle used to be one of the guys who ran the fed

00:59:07.040 so you know as people communicate he would show up yeah like of course because yeah someone like

00:59:12.200 that would show up but i would be shocked if your dad and epstein were not in the same room or at

00:59:18.880 like some santa fe institute event because your dad went they must have been at the same room at

00:59:23.080 times but zorhan mondani's parents were in the same room too and i was like that doesn't that

00:59:27.260 doesn't count yeah yeah i wish i wish that there were some way for us to know like oh

00:59:35.640 sometime we could know every time we were like in the same room as a celebrity or something

00:59:41.940 because i'm sure it happens a lot and you just don't know it and i just i like just for idle

00:59:47.980 fun i want to know you know like what are your weird celebrity encounter events like once i know

00:59:52.780 i walked by lindsey lohan but i didn't realize it until i put it together because a flock of

00:59:58.260 paparazzi then followed her and i was like oh okay and then there was another time where i was in a

01:00:05.560 united lounge in sfo where daniel craig was getting a drink at like the crack of dawn

01:00:11.060 the key place if you want to run into celebrities all the time

01:00:14.900 oh yeah because we also saw the guy who played aquaman in the british airways lounge in heath

01:00:20.540 yeah yeah yeah that's right so those are the three celebrity encounters i've knowingly

01:00:25.280 had what about you except for the one reported by the new york times of us hanging oh yeah but that

01:00:31.820 we don't talk about that we don't talk about the ones who are like actually our friends we have

01:00:35.560 actually had a number of other celebrity encounters that are yeah i'm talking about the ones where

01:00:38.920 like you were at the same restaurant and whatever i don't think you don't consider you know that

01:00:43.060 that like our friends who are celebrities oh we were at a new york restaurant where trump's first

01:00:47.780 wife was eating yeah but you are aware that our actual friends who we can never mention who are

01:00:53.500 celebrities are more famous than many of the people you just listed i know but they don't count

01:00:59.340 because they're just like normal people to you no well yeah no yeah i'm talking about like chance

01:01:04.740 encounters where like you're in the same area and they happen to be really famous because i

01:01:08.940 don't know i find those more interesting

01:01:10.620 anyway go on do your do your why do you find that more interesting than the ones who like

01:01:18.440 actually are kids they stress me out because i i just feel like i don't know like i i i i don't

01:01:27.480 want really to meet or hang out with famous people like it i i feel like just the dynamics

01:01:34.960 of socializing for them are so broken because they know that everyone has an ulterior motive

01:01:40.120 everyone is like thinking about the fact that they're interacting with them while also interacting

01:01:45.320 with them meaning that they're not really genuinely interacting like this they just so i feel like

01:01:50.180 there's too many meta games going on where they're like okay was that thing said because they're

01:01:55.000 desperately trying to impress me because they want money from me because they want me to do something

01:01:58.720 we'll be there one day we'll be there one day well that's gonna suck like i hope that never 0.76

01:02:03.040 i honestly think though that with the base camp community it's kind of not gonna happen

01:02:07.260 because the specific community that we're a part of doesn't really attract like simps for lack of a

01:02:15.000 better term like supplicants or or fan people instead it attracts intellectual equals who

01:02:22.760 enjoy talking which we've experienced in our paid subscribers only hangouts and i really like that

01:02:28.840 so i just feel like no actually i i think it would become something a little bit more like a new

01:02:33.480 version of what we experienced with renaissance weekend or like what renaissance weekend was

01:02:37.940 which is an invite only ideas society for those who aren't aware of it renaissance weekend was

01:02:42.960 this american invite only ideas society that held basically weekend like summits where people would

01:02:49.640 come together and stay at the same hotel and have all these conversations it was really fun and the

01:02:54.500 idea was like it was it was founded by like a high status well-connected former ambassador so like

01:03:00.880 yeah i mean he was kind of famous but like people didn't show up because they were like

01:03:04.400 fangirling over him and supplicating to him they showed up because they were fangirling

01:03:09.980 and supplicating over the clintons who always showed up that's it simone it was the clinton 0.94

01:03:15.080 no but well my larger point though is it like i think more broadly i want to believe people

01:03:21.560 showed up because they knew that when they showed up to those conferences that isn't why they showed

01:03:26.180 up they showed up because it was the clintons it was and that's not what your family went

01:03:32.440 they went for the idea yes the entire scene was downstream of the clintons

01:03:38.080 that was as much a the clinton scene during that period as you know like heretic on is peter

01:03:46.040 i don't know i went to heretic on because it was really freaking awesome and amazing

01:03:51.740 But the reason why it's awesome is, and the reason why so many high profile, high status

01:03:56.820 agentic people go is because they know that other high profile, high status agentic people

01:04:00.720 are going to be there that are in Peter Thiel's network.

01:04:03.120 That's depressing.

01:04:05.180 Anyway.

01:04:06.660 I want to build something better.

01:04:09.980 I don't like the, I don't like the, because also this is exactly the dynamic that, that,

01:04:14.980 that Jeffrey Epstein used to manipulate people when he wasn't using women.

01:04:20.000 It is just as much as a low blow cheat code as whoring out women, which is whoring out access to fancy, famous people, high profile people. 0.99

01:04:33.220 But that's that's the way society has always been structured.

01:04:37.800 That is what the French court was. That is what the British court was.

01:04:40.920 no no no it was different in fact the nobles didn't want to be there they were there because

01:04:45.920 it was like how they got like access to important wealth and resources and and they were

01:04:50.840 and you just said people don't like going to these events Simone that people don't actually

01:04:56.520 like being there no man people have a blast at renaissance weekend and at dialogue and at

01:05:01.520 hereticon and probably at sun valley and and clearly at the bohemian grove as long as they're

01:05:08.140 sufficiently old and cute if you know what i mean just like oh what a camp it's like the the the

01:05:15.400 wholesome boy scouts that everyone thinks is like an evil satanic ritual like for old men

01:05:20.960 wholesome boy scouts for old men that everyone's like oh anyway i'll get started here yeah anyway

01:05:26.980 okay i love you sorry i'm just i missed you yeah i missed you doing we hadn't recorded for a couple

01:05:33.660 days because we had a documentary team here yeah all right what's happening mommy did a haircut 1.00

01:05:39.660 and she made a kitten a kitten inside look it's a kitten

01:05:45.100 oh meow meow okay let's not let's not destroy the kitten

01:05:54.380 do you want to name the kitten

01:05:58.220 nicey 0.86

01:06:03.940 what are you going to name the kitten

01:06:08.920 hairy

01:06:10.060 hairy the kitten

01:06:11.900 titan you want to touch it when it's on my head

01:06:19.180 does it feel different

01:06:23.200 Mr. Military?

Based Camp - March 19, 2026

The Genetic Reason Europe Keeps Failing

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