Over 5,000 government schools in India have no students, and 70% of them are located in the states of Tanggal and West Bengal. What could be the reason for this? Is it another Somali fraud problem, or something more sinister?
00:30:01.600Well, there's, it's almost like a low-key rum springer, honestly.
00:30:05.640Like, two things to add to what you're saying is, I get the impression from, okay, like, I grew up in a very multicultural school district.
00:30:14.960Yeah, I grew up in a city just outside of San Francisco.
00:30:19.600And I had a pretty, I imagine, like, pretty ethnically and racially diverse school.
00:30:27.980Most of my friends were Asian, not Indian, but, like, Vietnam, China, and South Korea.
00:30:37.900And then, like, a couple white friends and, like, a couple from, like, just random places, like, Oceania.
00:30:47.860But I noticed that, like, my elementary, I had an elementary friend who was, like, from an Indian immigrant family.
00:31:00.000Big difference, the Indians that I've known, like, either dated or known as a kid, their families or they were here for economic opportunity, not for the American experience.
00:31:15.880They were here to basically add fuel to an existing lifestyle that was working really well for them.
00:31:24.700It's just they didn't have the money to fund it or they couldn't live Indian culture or live out their Indian cultural ideals as well in the economy in which they were born, like, in the town or city in which they used to live in India.
00:31:38.580So they came to America to live out the Indian dream, whereas people that I knew who came from Latin America were more like their families were literally coming for more like the American cultural experience, not just the American economic dream.
00:31:56.260And what's interesting is that the immigrant parents or the immigrant families I knew who were Asian, the parents came for the economic opportunity, but the kids came, like, or the kids were all about the American dream.
00:32:10.180Like, they fully integrated into American culture.
00:32:12.240And I think this is largely downstream of how well you sell your own culture to your children.
00:32:16.840Do you make it look fun to be a, for example, Japanese-American adult or Indian-American adult?
00:32:26.860It just doesn't look very fun to be a Chinese-American adult or Japanese-American adult.
00:32:31.740But being an Indian-American adult can seem less nightmarish to a young person who's growing up in a family like that,
00:32:39.200at least in terms of the kids who I know who had parents who were either South Asian or East Asian.
00:33:16.240Okay, so, I mean, I can go into, I think it has to do with how they relate to parents.
00:33:22.160In India, there seems to be more of, like, less of this, I guess I don't know how to put it.
00:33:31.560I haven't seen as much friction between Indian parents and Indian children.
00:33:36.020Well, my Asian, especially those with Chinese parents.
00:33:40.700So, Vietnamese parents, there was a lot more love and care and family connection.
00:33:44.540The ones with Chinese parents either would explicitly say that the parents didn't love them or show through various, like, anecdotes that their parents did not show an ounce of affection.
00:33:53.720And I also, and I noticed this where I was growing up, and I will say on the West Coast of the United States, you will see other Asian groups where the kids can stay in their home culture for intergenerationally.
00:34:05.420Because they've got, you know, Chinese schools to send them to or specific, like, school districts that are just meant for their culture and specific classes and everything.
00:34:15.460Indians, pretty much wherever I've seen them in the United States.
00:34:17.960Whereas, when I see Indians on the East Coast or in the center of the U.S., like in, like, Texas, sorry, not Indians, East Asians, they immediately assimilate.
00:34:32.900Well, yeah, it must be assimilation, because when you look at populations in Europe that are growing after migration, it's because they also correlate highly with the lack of assimilation.
00:34:43.340So they're not picking up these urban monocultural values at the same rate.
00:34:48.560The other thing I was going to note about Indian culture, which is also worth talking about, and this is where I would have, you know, more consternation.
00:34:54.740Like, I would be totally cool with my boys or girls hanging out with Indian boys, but Indian culture, of all the cultures that I have ever hung out a lot around, has the biggest differentiation between males and females in terms of the way that they act and their attitudes.
00:35:12.980So you wouldn't be in favor of them dating, or are boys dating Indian girls?
00:35:18.320They can date Indian girls, and I just think that Indian girls are much more likely to be a bad influence.
00:35:23.860My heart breaks for Octavian's former first grade classmate who threw him a cute little Minecraft sword and colored it.
00:35:32.200And I want to be clear here, whenever I speak in generalities about a group, I don't mean this about everyone in the group.
00:35:39.040I've met some Indian girls who not only didn't come off as histionic at all, which I think is the better term for the behavior type that I'm describing here, that I use here.
00:35:48.820It's just this broad histionic personality type, but I thought would make good wives for me.
00:35:54.980And I have, since meeting Simone, I have met maybe three or four women in my entire life where I'm like, that woman would have been a really nice person to marry, but one of them was an Indian girl.
00:36:06.120So I want to be clear here that there are some Indian girls that I hold in the highest of esteem in terms of the people I have met.
00:36:13.880I'm just saying that this is a broad and weird trend that I've noticed where the Indian guys that I have met throughout my life and become good friends with have all been on the more stoic side of all humans I've met.
00:36:26.140Whereas the Indian girls that I have met and become friends with have been involved in my socials or girls have been on the more histionic side, which is weird because these are opposite personality types.
00:36:36.120Just in case you're wondering, this Indian girl who I met and I thought would, oh, this would make a great wife.
00:36:40.760She's married, she's having kids, and she's very politically involved.
00:36:45.020So hopefully going to be a big player one day.
00:36:47.280Well, it's not bad for when you're fooling around.
00:36:50.520Like, I mean, no, you don't fool around on a girl.
00:36:54.060What I would say is that I have, in my entire life, I have met multiple kleptomaniacs, like people who, despite being wealthy, like steal stuff.
00:37:04.300From stores or like from other people or both?
00:38:07.460India is a more gender dimorphic culture.
00:38:10.240That's just, like, an objectively true thing, right?
00:38:12.960However, Indian males phenotypically do not look...
00:38:17.400Like, they do not max out on gender dimorphism maleness, right?
00:38:21.140Like, very few people look at an Indian male and think, that guy's a chad or whatever, right?
00:38:25.520And as such, they don't adopt a highly gender dimorphic or toxic masculine identity.
00:38:31.180However, Indian women can appear extremely feminine, right?
00:38:36.500And as such, they are more likely to adopt sort of the toxic feminine archetype and tropes, potentially.
00:38:46.780So, you're saying, basically, because Indian men aren't super, super, super manly phenotypically, that Indian women have to be more feminine just to differentiate?
00:39:02.200No, what I'm saying is Indian men might have a similar problem if Indian men were more muscular and taller than other ethnic groups.
00:39:33.700They're lucky they've got Indian guys, because that's, like, the one ethnic group of guys where I'm like, I can see them being chill enough that this would work.
00:39:39.680But anyway, and maybe other people haven't noticed this trend, and it's just something I've noticed.
00:39:43.780Other people can write back of, like, yeah, I've noticed.
00:39:47.340I will make a secondary note here that the ones, the Indian women I know who act, like, histionic and sort of crazy, all of them fell to the urban monoculture.
00:39:56.760So, they are the ones that have moved furthest from their birth culture.
00:39:59.800And I've even known one who was like this during a phase in her life when she was becoming more urban monoculture.
00:40:09.360Then she decided, actually, my parents weren't such bad people.
00:40:12.760I should go back and take more advice from them.
00:40:14.840And she became, like, way more level-headed and sane and responsible.
00:40:18.480So, I think that it could also be that Indian women are more co-evolved with their culture and really need it and do worse in an urban monocultural environment.
00:40:36.560If I'm going to anticipate anything, I think people are going to be like, you can't even make this many generalizations considering how insanely diverse India is.
00:40:47.400But then I would counter-argue that not really when the types of people from India that are immigrating to the United States that we are meeting are typically actually from a much smaller social set.
00:41:08.000Which is, again, like, that's who you want as an immigrant group so long as they aren't displacing the existing population from companies.
00:41:14.740Which is, like, how would you actually, if you're going to build a policy that could make it possible to have Indians immigrate into the country without it being a net negative?
00:41:24.980I think what you would need to do is acknowledge the in-group preference in hiring that Indians have.
00:42:17.720Let's make it not a problem because, you know, I'm sure you would prefer Indian immigrants to Somalian immigrants, right?
00:42:23.980But, yeah, and I think here some leftist is watching this and horrified that I'm saying that we need to acknowledge that these groups are culturally different from each other at the very least.
00:42:35.400And that cultural differentiation leads to different behavioral patterns and economic engagement.
00:42:42.480And some of that forms of economic engagement, like the Somalian immigrants scam, can be culturally damaging to the host country.
00:42:52.400I will also note that one thing that I see a lot of pushback on in the right, and I think it's right to push back on, is Vivek in his speech.
00:43:02.040But he tried to do a speech like attacking Nick Fuentes at the recent, like, Turning Point whatever conference, which we should start going to that, by the way.
00:43:08.260But anyway, so he tries to do a speech.
00:43:25.680Like, America was explicitly founded as an anti-Catholic country.
00:43:28.700Again, watch our – if you're not familiar with this, we point out that Catholics could only vote in two of the 13 colonies.
00:43:33.960And almost all of the founding fathers were extremely anti-Catholic, except for George Washington, as far as I'm aware of.
00:43:41.220But the point I'm making here is, you know, he comes from a fairly recent immigrant family as well.
00:43:46.000But I do think that he has a point here, which is this anyone being able to go up and say, I'm just as American as anyone else, people are getting a little sick of that.
00:43:55.660But to be clear, I think it is more disgusting for somebody like Nick Fuentes, who is a Catholic, to say this about somebody else without any appreciation than it is for some random person to assume an American identity.
00:44:13.340For him to gatekeep an identity, which is specifically, he is just as much a guest as this Indian, is quite repulsive.
00:44:22.740Instead of, I am really grateful that this country is hosting me, despite me not having, and my ancestors not have played a part in building this country into what it is today.
00:44:34.820You know, I am, I am grateful for being hosted here, is, that sounds very ungrateful.
00:44:42.540And I do not think, I think that in the 90s, you could say that, and that was like a trope and stuff like this.
00:44:47.100And now we're moving to a no, what you actually say is, I'm grateful to be here, and grateful that you're willing to let me represent this movement.
00:44:55.500And I will try to stand for what the people who, you know, built this country were standing for.
00:45:02.440And I've also heard it pointed out, and I think this is very true, that the Founding Fathers, this idea of like anyone who comes to America is American as anyone else.
00:45:10.000That was certainly not what the Founding Fathers believed.
00:45:12.700They were quite big believers in differences in groups.
00:45:18.060And so when did that become a core to the American identity?
00:45:21.440We can actually probably do a separate episode on that.
00:45:23.380When did the idea that anyone who comes to America is American as anyone else, when did that become popular?
00:46:03.640Where it likely started, like I'm actually thinking through my history, is it started with the normalization of Catholic immigrants as being as American as non-Catholic immigrants.
00:46:12.360And this was, for people who don't know, a huge issue in America.
00:46:16.020Because the Catholic immigrant ways, whether it was the mafia or the mob, they always brought tons of organized crime.
00:46:21.660Like, they were seen as very non-American.
00:46:23.640And being seen as non-American, there was these huge campaigns, like the Columbus Day campaign and everything like that, to try to make it seem like, well, Columbus, the very person who found America, was a Catholic, right?
00:46:40.140Like, therefore, being a Catholic or an Italian or whatever, like, this is fine, right?
00:46:44.880And if you today have normalized to, like, well, Italians are as white and American as anyone else, and yet you are grinding your teeth about Latin American immigrants, I'm like, you understand that that's basically the exact same ethnic group, right?
00:47:01.580Like, it is a Catholic-majority Southern European ethnic group.
00:47:06.360Majority Southern European ethnic group.
00:47:08.040Like, they, if you think that they were unjustified or this was some wrong kind of prejudice, yet you have prejudice against Latin American immigrants, that makes no sense to me.
00:47:18.960Like, Latin American immigrants are more American than the Italian immigrants, specifically because the cultures that they come from, if you're talking about cultural distance, at least were also immigrant countries.
00:47:30.040And their ancestors often chose to come over in immigrant ways, making them closer to our ancestors than the Irish or Catholic immigrants.