Based Camp - August 19, 2024


The Jewish IQ Myth： The Truth is Much Weirder

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In The Pragmatist Guide to Crafting Religions, Malcolm Gladwell and his wife, Simone, argue that Jews are not as smart as their peers, and in fact, they are less smart than they were once thought.

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00:00:00.000 Remember the first study I mentioned, where I said Jews were only 1% smarter, right? 1.00
00:00:04.880 On average, when you consider all of the information.
00:00:07.940 So what that meant, if you were going to get a standard deviation higher, that meant on
00:00:11.740 some tests they had to be scoring unusually good, and on some tests they had to be scoring
00:00:15.700 unusually poorly.
00:00:16.960 They were scoring unusually poorly on the nonverbal reasoning test.
00:00:21.400 Yeah, so in other words, Jews appear to be word cells and not shape rotators in internet 1.00
00:00:27.860 parlance.
00:00:28.500 So then this guy comes in, and he's basically like, I can't believe that there are some
00:00:33.820 areas where Jews do uniquely well, and some areas where Jews do uniquely poorly.
00:00:38.220 So how about we just look at the areas where they do well?
00:00:40.680 Yeah, let's redo the battery, but only include the tests where I know from the previous data
00:00:47.160 that they're doing well.
00:00:48.720 Probably solved, Malcolm.
00:00:50.640 Problem solved.
00:00:51.800 I want to be clear.
00:00:53.040 The core guy who did this research that was cherry-picked using only verbal scores, Richard
00:00:58.360 Lynn, in his words, the only representative study ever conducted other than his own was
00:01:06.220 that other study that we were looking at, okay?
00:01:09.100 So it's not that we're cherry-picking.
00:01:11.300 We're using the studies that he is pointing to.
00:01:14.560 The strongest data-backed claim that a person can reasonably make about Jewish IQ differences 0.85
00:01:19.760 is that Ashkenazi Jews have a marginally better verbal IQ and math skills, which is offset by 0.83
00:01:26.400 marginally lower visual-spatial intelligence and reasoning.
00:01:29.620 Would you like to know more?
00:01:30.920 Hello, Simone. 0.69
00:01:31.700 I am excited to be talking to you again today.
00:01:34.520 Today, we are going to go over another topic that is delved into heavily in one of our books,
00:01:39.560 which means we'll be reading some parts of one of our books.
00:01:41.520 Whenever we get to a place where there's a citation, you can just go to the book and find
00:01:45.220 whatever the citation was.
00:01:46.360 It'll be some study or something.
00:01:48.020 As I read, I'll just say citations.
00:01:50.180 Yeah, I don't want to keep interjecting here.
00:01:52.000 But this is one of our biggest surprises when we were writing The Pragmatist Guide to Crafting
00:01:55.180 Religion was that we sort of came to the realization that the Jewish, Ashkenazi Jewish population
00:02:02.800 specifically, does not actually seem to have the IQ advantage that all the gene bros would
00:02:08.940 tell you that they have.
00:02:10.500 And there has been some intentional misrepresentation of data in this area.
00:02:14.460 And from a cultural perspective, that's really interesting because it means that their cultural
00:02:19.640 success has more to do with cultural practices than a natural advantage.
00:02:24.920 But which is much more interesting to talk about because that's the culture is what we
00:02:29.280 have control over.
00:02:30.660 Yeah.
00:02:32.080 All right.
00:02:33.280 Jump into it, Simone.
00:02:35.120 When we started writing this book, we were fairly certain that Jews were smarter than other 1.00
00:02:39.360 groups, either at a cultural or genetic level.
00:02:41.980 Anecdotally, we like to think we associate with disproportionately intelligent people, as
00:02:47.360 gauged by notable professional achievement, and have no reason to mostly be friends with
00:02:52.320 Jews.
00:02:53.160 Yet a huge chunk of our friends are either Orthodox Jews or secular Jews.
00:02:57.780 Objectively, Jews win Nobel Prizes at a rate 100 times higher than would be expected given
00:03:03.560 their population levels.
00:03:05.220 Among the highest ranked chess players, 51% have at least one Jewish parent.
00:03:09.700 This is not something that could be easily explained by nepotism.
00:03:13.480 Jews are represented among the world's richest people at a rate 100,000% higher than would 0.97
00:03:20.720 be expected.
00:03:21.900 They make up 19% of the Forbes 200 richest list and 0.19% of the world population.
00:03:29.540 Citation.
00:03:30.140 Jews are overrepresented in Congress and the Senate at a rate of about 400% higher than
00:03:37.380 one would expect based on their population in the United States.
00:03:40.360 Another citation there.
00:03:42.480 Jewish success is plain for anyone to see.
00:03:45.420 Jews are dotted in positions of power throughout our society at a rate that would not be expected 1.00
00:03:50.100 given that they only make up 2% of the U.S. population.
00:03:53.740 Consider, for example, that as of this book's creation, 41.61% of Joe Rogan's political guests
00:04:00.080 have been Jewish and 20.27% of his science guests have been Jewish.
00:04:06.220 We have a little game that we used to play when we would do parties in New York where
00:04:10.640 we'd be like, okay, how many people here at the party are Jewish?
00:04:14.060 Because we're not inviting people to be Jewish. 1.00
00:04:15.880 Remember, it was always like at least 50% of the people.
00:04:19.040 Sometimes there would only be like two people in the room who weren't Jewish.
00:04:23.900 And we are disproportionately like intentionally associating with Jewish individuals, which
00:04:29.340 to me indicates for whatever reason, cultural affinity, anything like that, when we're trying
00:04:33.360 to select individuals who we have judged because who goes to our parties, like I'm not
00:04:37.820 friends with people to talk to them because we don't like friends.
00:04:40.780 Like I don't want to waste time being friendly with someone, right?
00:04:43.580 I would only invite somebody if I thought that they were either going to be useful to our
00:04:46.640 career, are useful to our mission of changing the world.
00:04:49.420 And so we're looking for-
00:04:50.320 More interesting.
00:04:51.800 Yeah.
00:04:52.060 People who have power or people who are likely to have power in the future.
00:04:56.920 That's what we were optimizing for.
00:04:58.400 And that ended up with a disproportionately Jewish group.
00:05:00.260 Well, I also wonder because at these parties too, especially because they're largely Gen 0.96
00:05:06.640 X, millennial and Gen Z attendees, they're insanely flaky. 1.00
00:05:10.800 And I wonder if Jews have a lower flake rate. 0.98
00:05:15.440 Maybe Jews show up, but maybe that's why Jews have so many positions of power because 1.00
00:05:19.940 they don't flake on life. 0.97
00:05:21.880 That may be it.
00:05:22.480 Anyway, continue reading. 0.94
00:05:24.320 It comes as no surprise that many people have come to the conclusion that Jews must be smarter 1.00
00:05:28.780 than other people on average.
00:05:30.660 That said, after going over the evidence, we have changed our minds on the subject drastically.
00:05:35.320 This was such a jarring change of opinion.
00:05:37.660 We had to make edits throughout the book after it happened.
00:05:39.880 First, let's get the most common myth out of the way that, quote, Jews are smart because 0.99
00:05:45.100 the Holocaust acted as a selection event, eliminating less intelligent Jewish population, 0.98
00:05:50.080 unquote.
00:05:50.900 The types of evidence cited in this argument, Jews being overrepresented in educated professions
00:05:55.660 and positions of power, can be seen in data before the Holocaust.
00:06:00.000 For example, in pre-Holocaust Germany, Jews were overrepresented in the medical profession
00:06:04.780 at a rate of more than 1,500 percent, with 47 percent of pediatricians being Jewish, even
00:06:12.100 though Jews accounted for only 0.9 percent of the population at the time, citation.
00:06:17.380 Stats like this can be found virtually anywhere you look in reference to pre-Holocaust Jewish
00:06:22.380 populations.
00:06:23.000 It is similarly unlikely that, quote, pogroms made Jews smart, unquote.
00:06:29.640 We say this for two reasons.
00:06:31.220 The first being that other groups plagued by pogroms, like the Romani, aka gypsies, are 1.00
00:06:36.840 not also known for being disproportionately in jobs requiring higher education. 0.97
00:06:42.220 Second, Jews objectively are not particularly smarter than average. 1.00
00:06:45.920 Just as we did when we first dug deeper, you might be thinking, wait, what? 0.88
00:06:51.380 That can't be true.
00:06:52.460 I've read my entire life that Jews are super-duper smart.
00:06:56.240 Aren't there, like, a bunch of scientific studies that showed Jews have higher IQ?
00:07:01.740 While it is true that there are a bunch of studies on this topic, they don't ultimately
00:07:05.720 demonstrate in a robust manner that Jewish people have systematically higher IQs.
00:07:10.520 The most cited and well-conducted study on Jewish IQ differences was published by Margaret
00:07:15.900 Backman in 1972, citation.
00:07:18.700 This study compared 1,236 Jews to 1,051 non-Jewish Caucasians across six different batteries of
00:07:26.600 tests focused on different types of intelligence.
00:07:29.640 It found that Jews had an average score of 51.88 across all test categories, while Caucasians
00:07:35.560 had an average score of 51.22.
00:07:38.540 That's a 1% difference.
00:07:39.860 Note, Backman also did a preliminary study in 1970 that people sometimes cite, but it
00:07:46.160 only looked at 65 Jewish boys, so we are ignoring its citation.
00:07:50.820 You want to comment on that?
00:07:52.320 No, because it gets really interesting in just a second.
00:07:54.760 What is wild is that people will frequently cite Backman's 1972 research as proof that Ashkenazi
00:08:00.900 Jews have a higher-than-average IQ. 0.99
00:08:02.640 They do this by only mentioning the two of those six areas in which Jews outperformed their
00:08:09.560 populations, verbal and math, while ignoring the parts where they underperformed, then generalize
00:08:16.120 that score, creating the illusion of some big intelligence difference.
00:08:19.980 But that is objectively not what the study says.
00:08:23.040 So I love that people will go to this study and they'll be like, ah, this is proof that Jews 1.00
00:08:28.440 are like 30% more intelligent because they did 30% higher on this one test.
00:08:33.940 Yeah, but what the study said is they were 1% more intelligent, not 30% more intelligent.
00:08:39.480 You just left.
00:08:40.500 How did it get to the 1%?
00:08:43.220 It's because the tests were being considered together.
00:08:47.140 Yeah.
00:08:47.800 And you'll see where people start manipulating the data here to trick people.
00:08:52.260 Continue.
00:08:53.420 If it were true that Jews had much higher IQs, Israel, with an 81% Jewish population, wouldn't 0.99
00:08:59.720 have an average national IQ lower than that in the United States, 94 versus 98%.
00:09:06.240 That's shocking, by the way.
00:09:07.680 I know, that is shocking.
00:09:09.180 And there's a citation.
00:09:10.020 We find this nationwide number very compelling as it is much harder to manipulate than individual
00:09:15.940 studies.
00:09:17.620 As Ashkenazi Jews make up almost half, 44.2% of the Jewish population in Israel, it is preposterous 1.00
00:09:24.180 to assert that they sport an average IQ over a standard deviation above what the general
00:09:30.100 population. 1.00
00:09:31.500 Unless one also asserts that non-Ashkenazi Jews are outlandishly stupid, which most supporters 1.00
00:09:37.260 of the Jewish competence theory don't argue, citation. 0.99
00:09:41.740 So before we go further here, I have heard a counter to this point.
00:09:44.880 Okay.
00:09:45.400 School me.
00:09:45.940 Since writing the book.
00:09:47.040 Yeah.
00:09:47.240 What they argued is that a large portion of the group that is identified as Ashkenazi Jews
00:09:52.460 in Israel is actually Russian ethnically and not Ashkenazi Jew at all.
00:09:57.860 But they used claims of a Jewish identity to migrate at various points.
00:10:02.020 Oh, and because a lot of the Jews in Russia are Ashkenazi, they're just like, yeah, I'm 0.99
00:10:05.560 that.
00:10:06.100 Yeah, they get counted as Ashkenazi, even though they're not Ashkenazi.
00:10:09.760 However, I think when taken into account along with the rest of the evidence we're going to
00:10:14.220 discuss in this particular piece, you'll probably come to the point that no, they're just not
00:10:18.280 particularly smarter.
00:10:19.760 And keep in mind what this would mean here.
00:10:21.340 If you have an 81% Jewish population and 44.2% of that population of that 81% is Ashkenazi
00:10:27.700 Jews, right?
00:10:28.780 The rest of the population, and you get this number that people claim, which I often hear
00:10:32.820 Ashkenazi Jews are about one standard deviation higher than the general population.
00:10:37.260 Right.
00:10:37.380 You would need the rest of the population in Israel to be like a standard deviation and 0.99
00:10:42.760 a half dumber than the average American. 1.00
00:10:46.020 They would need to be like insanely dumb. 1.00
00:10:47.620 Sitting on the street drooling. 1.00
00:10:49.100 For that number to come out the way.
00:10:50.300 So it's just not likely.
00:10:53.060 Yeah.
00:10:53.760 Womp womp. 0.99
00:10:54.600 Womp womp. 0.99
00:10:55.500 I shall continue then.
00:10:57.260 In fact, one of the core champions of the Ashkenazi high IQ theory, Miles Dorfer, argued
00:11:02.060 in his book, Intelligence and Giftedness, that Sephardic Jews, who make up most of the other
00:11:07.420 half, 44.9% of the Jewish population in Israel, citation, have an average IQ of 111.
00:11:14.460 If this were true, even if all non-Jews in Israel were mentally handicapped,
00:11:19.500 you still couldn't get an average IQ of 94 for the nation.
00:11:24.680 Well, back when-
00:11:25.260 So hold on.
00:11:25.720 I really want to point out the actual insanity of this.
00:11:29.260 Yeah.
00:11:30.260 Yeah.
00:11:30.980 You could get that.
00:11:32.680 You have a country that is 81% Jews who are supposed to be, you know, about a standard 0.98
00:11:38.340 deviation above the normal IQ, right?
00:11:40.720 Or American IQ, right?
00:11:42.320 And then another group that is an average IQ of 111.
00:11:47.100 And somehow that country has an average IQ of 94.
00:11:51.520 Well, what you missed, Malcolm Collins, was that everyone's pet goldfish in Israel is counted
00:11:56.200 as a citizen.
00:11:57.460 You would literally need that to be the case.
00:12:00.560 You really would have to do that.
00:12:01.980 It's like that.
00:12:03.540 Okay.
00:12:04.100 I shall go on.
00:12:05.920 Well, Beckman's 1972 paper is the most cited peer-reviewed article on this topic, being cited
00:12:11.340 252 times at the time of this book's publication.
00:12:15.400 Another well-known researcher in the space is Richard Lynn.
00:12:17.960 He argued that Jews have a higher-than-average IQ in both 2004, citation, with a paper now
00:12:24.680 cited 49 times, and 2008 in co-authorship with Satoshi Kanazawa, with a paper cited 32
00:12:31.860 times.
00:12:33.040 Lynn used the same test in each case. 0.95
00:12:34.880 However, his 2008 work with Kanazawa involved more participants.
00:12:39.920 While these studies yielded results in line with Beckman's research, they only tested verbal
00:12:44.240 IQ, which allowed them to, quote-unquote, prove that Jews have a general IQ advantage 0.99
00:12:49.780 by cherry-picking the type of intelligence measured.
00:12:52.820 We suspect Lynn chose to be intentionally manipulative as he specifically cites Jews getting
00:12:57.880 low nonverbal reasoning scores as motivation for his research.
00:13:02.540 Quote,
00:13:02.800 But these are so variable, and in some instances so low, as to raise doubts about their credibility.
00:13:08.040 It is difficult to credit that Jewish sample could have a nonverbal reasoning IQ of 91.3,
00:13:14.240 and at the same time a mathematical IQ, quantitative reasoning in the McGrew and Flanagan taxonomy,
00:13:19.900 of 109.7.
00:13:21.660 It is also difficult to credit that the Jewish sample could have a verbal IQ of 107.8, while
00:13:27.680 at the same time having a short-term verbal memory of 95.1, verbal memory IQ of 95.1.
00:13:34.520 These results are in need of checking and replication.
00:13:37.400 So I want to take a stance here.
00:13:39.420 So basically, if you're an audience member and you're like intelligent, right, you should
00:13:44.960 immediately know from what he said there that he intentionally is lying using data.
00:13:50.940 You can tell that because remember the first study I mentioned, where I said Jews were only
00:13:55.640 one percent smarter, right, on average when you considered all of the information.
00:14:00.420 So what that meant, if you were going to get like a standard deviation higher, that meant
00:14:04.080 on some tests they had to be scoring unusually good, and on some tests they had to be scoring
00:14:08.180 unusually poorly.
00:14:09.440 They were scoring unusually poorly on the nonverbal reasoning test.
00:14:14.200 Yeah, so in other words, Jews appear to be word cells and not shape rotators in internet 1.00
00:14:20.340 parlance of like three years ago.
00:14:22.160 Um, but anyway, so this guy then comes in, right?
00:14:26.200 It doesn't exactly break down into word cells and shape rotators because, for example, they
00:14:31.400 do better on math, but then they're bad on, so it's a little complicated, Simone.
00:14:36.660 But the point being is that there appears to be some areas in which Jews excel and some
00:14:40.460 areas in which Jews do uniquely poorly.
00:14:42.140 So then this guy comes in and he's basically like, I can't believe that there are some areas 0.68
00:14:47.700 where Jews do uniquely well, in some areas where Jews do uniquely poorly.
00:14:51.760 So how about we just look at the areas where they do well?
00:14:54.220 Yeah, let's do, redo the battery, but only include the test where I know from the previous
00:15:00.240 data that they're doing well.
00:15:02.260 Probably solved, Malcolm.
00:15:04.180 Problem solved.
00:15:05.140 Of course you came up with them appearing about a standard deviation higher.
00:15:09.420 Eureka.
00:15:10.220 So, so that's what he was doing.
00:15:11.740 So for people who haven't fully worked this all out in your head as to how he manipulated
00:15:15.440 the data, and it's, it's like really obvious when you look at it, but we'll get into this
00:15:19.460 more as you keep reading.
00:15:20.840 Right.
00:15:21.640 You, you write in the book, if Lin's goal was to truly prove the claim that Jews do actually
00:15:28.080 have a higher general IQ, he would have focused on the nonverbal reasoning facets of
00:15:32.560 intelligence investigated by Backman in 1972, where Jews were deficient, not where they
00:15:38.200 had an advantage.
00:15:39.440 Imagine your kid took a battery of evaluations.
00:15:41.880 And while they performed wonderfully on the verbal test, their visual spatial test score
00:15:46.700 was wanting.
00:15:47.800 If you wish to prove the results were wrong about their overall performance, you would
00:15:52.400 have the child retake just the visual spatial test, the one on which they performed poorly
00:15:58.120 rather than the verbal evaluation where presumably you have nothing to contest.
00:16:02.560 If instead you just wanted to get your kid into a good college and don't actually care
00:16:06.280 about getting a true measure of their performance, you would find some other test that only had
00:16:10.960 a verbal component and present it as an evaluation representative of your kid's overall performance.
00:16:18.500 Lin tries to argue exactly this quote, the first items of information of particular interest
00:16:23.980 to us are the respondents, religion and ethnic group.
00:16:26.960 An analysis of these enables us to categorize the respondents as Jewish, non-Jewish, white, black and other.
00:16:33.420 The second item of interest is the respondents' score on a 10-word vocabulary test.
00:16:37.820 Vocabulary is a good measure of both general intelligence and verbal intelligence.
00:16:42.480 Two citations there.
00:16:43.800 So hold on, listen to what he said here.
00:16:46.180 He's like, well, we need to test them.
00:16:48.100 So what we're going to do is a vocab test.
00:16:51.060 Because everyone knows vocabulary is how you gauge intelligence.
00:16:54.800 Right, right.
00:16:56.240 So I think when a lot of people look at these tests that Lin did, that they assumed that
00:16:59.660 they were like a general test.
00:17:01.520 No, they were vocab tests.
00:17:05.060 Continue, Simone.
00:17:07.060 Lin's findings around vocabulary are largely in line with the verbal advantage found in
00:17:12.020 Beckman's research, meaning that there is some reason to have confidence in Beckman's
00:17:16.820 other scores as well.
00:17:18.640 You might be wondering...
00:17:19.580 I want to explain what I mean by this if people don't understand the intention here.
00:17:22.280 What I'm saying is his research produced results that were in line with Beckman's research,
00:17:29.820 which shows that Jews did better on these verbal things, and it showed that they did 0.99
00:17:34.100 about as better as Beckman said, which then leads me to more believe the stuff that he
00:17:39.060 didn't want to accidentally replicate, showing Jews did reliably worse in nonverbal things.
00:17:44.940 Anyway, continue.
00:17:45.640 You might be wondering about some other data cited by those who argue Jews are something
00:17:50.900 like a standard deviation smarter than other populations.
00:17:54.560 Outside of Richard Lin's work, this data mostly comes to two studies.
00:17:59.540 The first, 13 citations, compares wealthy Jewish NYC day school students to a general population,
00:18:06.960 while the second, 331 citations, uses data from kibbutzim whose graduates have historically
00:18:13.320 out-competed other Jews within Israel.
00:18:15.980 While the second study itself is not making an argument about Jewish IQ, Miles Stouffer uses
00:18:21.640 its data to make it the assertion in the aforementioned book, Intelligence and Giftedness.
00:18:28.460 Despite their samples being quite skewed, and even though neither study itself claimed to
00:18:32.820 make assertions about general Jewish IQ, people often cite them when making arguments around
00:18:38.160 the average Jewish IQ.
00:18:39.520 Imagine you wanted to show that British people were smarter than other people. 1.00
00:18:43.860 So you compared the performance of students at elite British private schools or gifted
00:18:47.820 programs to that of students in other nations' general population.
00:18:51.380 Shall I continue?
00:18:52.120 Well, actually, I just want to note here.
00:18:53.640 Like, I hope that people can see that the people who are arguing this are arguing it in bad faith.
00:18:58.800 Like, it's very clear that you cannot get a measure of Jews being smarter than the general population 1.00
00:19:06.920 by looking at elite Jewish private schools in Manhattan or kibbutzims, when we know that 0.99
00:19:12.920 the graduates of kibbutzim score significantly higher than the general Jewish population in Israel.
00:19:18.280 So, like, why would you do this unless you took to start Jews or high IQ? 0.99
00:19:24.360 Right.
00:19:24.580 And you were going to prove that.
00:19:25.880 Yeah.
00:19:26.160 Okay, continue.
00:19:27.820 I continue from the book.
00:19:29.800 If you shared our original assumptions and believed there was an abundance of well-conducted
00:19:35.260 research featuring large sample sizes that clearly demonstrated outsized Jewish intelligence,
00:19:40.780 you would probably think we are cherry-picking.
00:19:42.700 But in the words of Richard Lynn himself, quote,
00:19:46.260 there is only one study of the intelligence of American Jews in the last half century,
00:19:50.980 which appears to be representative and had a reasonable sample size.
00:19:55.500 That is Backman's 1972 analysis of the data in Project Talent,
00:20:00.600 a nationwide American survey of the abilities of 18-year-olds carried out in 1960.
00:20:05.020 That's the very same study that shows only a 1% difference mind-explosions.
00:20:12.140 Mind-explosions.
00:20:12.880 so i want to be clear the core guy who did this research that was cherry-picked using only verbal
00:20:37.080 scores remember that we've been talking about who's intentionally manipulating data and is
00:20:41.680 a core advocate of jews having a higher general iq richard lynn in his words the only representative
00:20:49.540 study ever conducted other than his own was that other study that we were looking at okay so it's
00:20:56.480 not that we're cherry-picking we're using the studies that he is pointing to um so uh do you
00:21:04.580 want me to continue here or i'll go ahead you see similar things wherever you look while jews are not 1.00
00:21:11.420 compared to a caucasian population in a 1965 paper by gerald lesser gordon pfeiffer and donald clark
00:21:18.120 with a whopping 657 citations table 12 indicates that jews only outperformed chinese participants
00:21:25.160 on verbal 90.35 to 71.09 and math 28.50 to 27.79 and skill coming below chinese participants on
00:21:36.740 reasoning 25.21 to 25.94 and visual spatial 39.71 to 42.51 skill hold on i want to take a quick note
00:21:46.560 here so that people get this is why i say don't go for the word cell versus shape rotator thing yeah
00:21:51.020 because of this math is included in shape rotator skill sets and that's not really the way it works
00:21:56.760 jews seem to have uniquely good memories around stuff like vocabulary they seem to be uniquely good at
00:22:03.440 at verbal like sophistry and they seem to be uniquely good at math but uniquely bad at general reasoning and
00:22:10.860 uniquely bad at spatial reasoning so relatable man so it's it's more of like a general reasoning problem
00:22:18.240 and not a i.e they would be very good at convincing someone of something yes very good at doing math and
00:22:25.720 mathematical proofs but they would have a harder time this is on average you know we're just going
00:22:30.880 over the data here i'd say checking if the thing that they're convincing the other person of is actually
00:22:36.820 true um anyway continue greta adeval albert silverman and edward mcgill report in a 1970 research
00:22:46.120 paper which has been cited 22 times that a when jewish college freshmen were given a 10 test battery
00:22:52.160 of perception skills jewish student performance was significantly below that of non-jewish classmates
00:22:57.760 when participants with matching sat scores were compared so this gets really really interesting here
00:23:05.160 so they gave them a battery of perception scores right but they correlated their otherwise iq i.e their
00:23:12.880 their general iq by using the sat scores and found that they had weighed lower on this on this perception
00:23:18.660 score compared to the general population anyway continue probably the most compelling evidence
00:23:23.320 suggesting a higher jewish general intelligence comes from the bell curve which contributes evidence
00:23:28.820 to the nlsy national longitudinal surveys data set to the debate though it does admit that quote
00:23:35.820 we cannot be sure that the 98 jews in the sample are nationally representative unquote and that the
00:23:43.280 quote source of the difference is concentrated in the verbal component unquote here i would note like
00:23:49.160 everywhere you look this isn't like one study or something like this or one person everywhere all of
00:23:55.960 these independently conducted things measured in different ways are showing not a general iq advantage
00:24:02.040 among jews but a verbal iq advantage in a deficit in other areas well which is it's kind of why
00:24:09.840 any sort of we'll say like racism based or group based a bias like this group is worse or better
00:24:16.120 seems so dumb to me because we're different we have we have lumpy skill sets and that's a good thing
00:24:23.240 yeah i i think that this is a huge mistake that individuals make when they're looking at 0.99
00:24:29.940 group differences tied to genetics and they try to be like this is the smart group and this is the dumb
00:24:37.100 group when really it appears to be that some groups have more talent in parts of their brains that are
00:24:45.420 tied to specific outcomes and that that can lead to like i for example i think it would be pretty hard
00:24:54.100 to argue that black americans don't seem to have some sort of cognitive advantage when it comes to
00:25:01.240 music when you look at the number of top selling musical artists in the united states well and like
00:25:08.140 yeah verbal delivery poetry yeah there's a whole bunch of stuff that is where they just seems to be
00:25:14.360 like over representation in those spheres well an over representation which to me belies some form of
00:25:22.840 either cultural or genetic advantage yeah but that that we need to get away from this idea of like
00:25:28.940 genetic intelligence or genetic non-intelligence yeah i think that this helps us do that where we can see
00:25:34.480 that some bad actors because i actually suspect what's happening here is that the human brain likely has to
00:25:41.800 do trade-offs when it's making an average population uniquely specialized in one area that ends up hurting that
00:25:48.740 population on average within other areas specifically otherwise like why wouldn't all humans have that
00:25:54.960 advantage right it's because the easy ways from a biological perspective to gain that advantage likely
00:26:00.640 caused a trade-off historically speaking and different groups and different geographies with different
00:26:06.860 resource and limit and limitations are going to have different selective pressures which will lead to
00:26:11.780 different lumpy skill sets it's exactly that as we can recognize this we can get better at getting away
00:26:19.520 from this racialized idea which is a huge problem where people are like oh you are selecting for certain
00:26:25.680 phenotypes of like in your kids the problem i have with genetic selection is everyone's going to select
00:26:31.260 for the same stuff and it's like that's objectively not true especially because you're making trade-offs
00:26:37.680 so one population might be selecting for certain types of verbal intelligence and one population
00:26:43.180 might be selecting for specific types of spatial intelligence and it might turn out that selecting
00:26:48.240 for one directly negatively affects the other which is what i think we're seeing in the data here
00:26:53.220 totally continue after conducting an extensive search the only other research we found that supports the
00:27:00.140 jewish competency hypothesis with iq data are two papers both published in 1976 what's with this
00:27:07.660 subject in the 1970s right one by julius romanoff who has only been cited by five five other times
00:27:15.600 suggests an average jewish iq of 115 the other cited 42 times by victor cicerelli compared jewish
00:27:24.740 sixth grade students to those representing the general population and found the jewish participants to have
00:27:31.000 a seven point iq advantage a final source of evidence we have yet to address but which may prove us wrong
00:27:37.640 relates to the high iq correlated polygenic risk scores being higher in jewish populations while we
00:27:44.720 find this evidence uniquely compelling we hesitate to update our beliefs based on this finding alone
00:27:49.740 after seeing so many people misquote and misinterpret research we also wonder if these polygenic risk
00:27:55.860 scores are picking up iq correlated traits that grant jews a verbal advantage more acutely than others
00:28:02.440 in short outside a few highly ideologically motivated studies the strongest data-backed claim that a
00:28:08.220 person can reasonably make about jewish iq differences is that ashkenazi jews have a marginally
00:28:14.380 better verbal iq and math skills which is offset by marginally lower visual spatial intelligence and
00:28:20.720 reasoning like five to ten percent in both directions it is really weird that people always mention ashkenazi jews
00:28:28.040 higher verbal and math scores but almost never bring up their equally lower non-verbal reasoning scores
00:28:33.520 which is what leads to the neutral effect on iq overall if you are like us you're probably now
00:28:39.960 thinking that there must be other studies out there but richard lynn is right margaret backman
00:28:45.860 really published quote the only one study of the intelligence of american jews in the last half century
00:28:52.160 which appears to be representative and had a reasonable sample size unquote
00:28:56.140 we went over a number of meta studies and they mostly pulled from the above-sided papers
00:29:01.700 there are three alternate hypotheses we have seen thrown around
00:29:05.980 one that jews have a non-standard curve in their iq 0.96
00:29:09.900 i.e. there are more jews at the extreme high and low end of the curve
00:29:14.200 however we've not seen data to back this up
00:29:16.960 two the jewish exceptionalism actually comes from some mental health conditions occurring at higher
00:29:23.100 rates in the jewish community but again the evidence is fairly weak see the article on the
00:29:28.840 footnote for a detailed exploration of this hypothesis citation
00:29:32.000 basically it says like autism and stuff like that is higher in the jewish population and that explains 0.86
00:29:36.760 the jewish success rate
00:29:38.280 and three marginally higher verbal and math iq alone explains all jewish success
00:29:45.060 this theory seems possible to us though the world would be a much less interesting place if it is
00:29:51.260 more on this later
00:29:52.240 readers who spend a lot of time online might vaguely remember that some youtuber post an argument along
00:29:59.380 these lines only to be debunked
00:30:01.340 the youtuber who scratched the surface of this argument motivating us to dig deeper
00:30:06.340 was leather apron club citation
00:30:08.860 who's biased against jews citation led to motivated reasoning as can be demonstrated by
00:30:15.480 his choice to cite backman's 1972 data when talking about
00:30:19.320 lynn's 2004 research and leaving out some studies we do address here
00:30:24.600 uber soy on youtube quote-unquote debunked his argument
00:30:28.660 though his rebuttal fails to address the problem that there is no large well-conducted study demonstrating
00:30:34.520 that jews have dramatically higher general intelligence neglects to mention that the
00:30:39.060 largest most respected study in the space only showed a one percent difference in iq
00:30:44.300 and doesn't acknowledge that researchers have manipulatively measured only verbal iq
00:30:49.500 while implying that their findings are representative of general iq citation
00:30:54.460 so here i know if people don't know the leather apron club channel i actually think it's a pretty
00:30:58.900 good channel in regards to the way he delivers arguments and stuff like that so basically the
00:31:04.740 point i'm making here is i think leather apron club was actually right even though he sort of
00:31:11.440 manipulated the way he was presenting the data to convince his audience of what he wanted them to
00:31:16.140 believe which is that they're you know jews do not have an iq advantage and i don't have any 0.96
00:31:21.020 animosity to him i mean he's he's targeting a audience that's far to the right of our audience
00:31:26.040 and so he is basically i mean his channel is about in an intelligent way telling super super
00:31:32.520 far right-leaning people what they want to believe is true you you get a feel of you watch
00:31:36.320 his channel but you can still learn stuff from his channel you know even if you agree with somebody
00:31:39.960 it was his channel was the first where i had ever seen somebody really be like no there isn't a
00:31:45.220 high jewish genetic iq advantage you know no one has ever been asking those questions yeah like
00:31:52.220 why does nobody ask this this is also just so to me classic in terms of how many memes spread
00:31:58.220 where people think there's like this super robustly understood concept and yet it turns out that one
00:32:04.960 person said something once and then just people kept citing them and citing them and citing them
00:32:09.440 and you see this happen on wikipedia a lot too where trusted or reliable sources are cited from multiple
00:32:15.280 different angles confirming a quote-unquote fact when it turns out that just one quote of like a
00:32:21.940 supposedly reliable source actually posted something fake and then a bunch of other people and other
00:32:28.140 quote-unquote reliable sources as as deemed reliable by wikipedia standards and and voting and whatnot
00:32:33.760 then just cite that original yeah i think you get this problem so much worse when it's plausible
00:32:40.700 like the outside jewish success yeah um it just makes sense if you're like oh they're probably 0.99
00:32:49.200 smarter and we're not allowed to talk about that as a society yeah you know you're not allowed to
00:32:53.580 talk about like maybe some groups could be smarter than other groups and so what i think most other
00:32:58.380 intelligent people think is they're like yeah i mean that checks out yeah they're probably smarter
00:33:02.700 instead of instead of is it so there's not really a motivation like for me to challenge this assumption
00:33:08.660 of jews are smarter because it it would make a lot of weird things in our society otherwise make a lot 0.99
00:33:15.860 of sense and then you don't need to ask questions around them but we live in a more interesting world
00:33:20.560 if that's not the explanation for outside jewish success which we'll get into in a bit but continue
00:33:24.620 reading we suspect that ubersoy simply got so caught up in creating a strong counter argument that he
00:33:32.020 allowed himself to get taken in by the shell game lynn and others play with verbal iq there is
00:33:38.580 real reason to be skeptical that a markedly higher ashkenazi average iq is a genuine phenomenon
00:33:44.240 this is a great example of why an intellectually diverse cultural ecosystem is valuable leather
00:33:50.520 apron club's hatred of the jewish people caused him to question something we would have never thought
00:33:55.380 to question on our own that jews are smarter than the general population and that this intelligence 0.99
00:34:00.360 largely explains their disproportionate success ironically his catching the street hustlers in their
00:34:06.120 verbal iq shell game serves to undermine his larger agenda among people like us who don't think jewish
00:34:12.080 success can be explained by nepotism or an evil jewish cabal as it indicates there is something 1.00
00:34:18.000 genuinely valuable about jewish culture itself rather than just jewish genetics more on these points
00:34:23.840 shortly if jewish people did have significantly higher iqs elements of jewish cultural success would be very 0.73
00:34:31.120 hard if not impossible to replicate through the intentional creation of a family culture if however
00:34:36.880 most jewish success comes from a purely cultural edge and the network that culture provides elements
00:34:43.120 of jewish success can theoretically be replicated all this assumes that jewish success is not just a
00:34:49.200 product of slightly higher verbal and mathematical iq which appears to be robustly attested we aren't
00:34:55.040 dwelling on that possibility because it is probably not the case and boring if true fun side note there
00:35:01.920 is an entire niche industry focused around trying to copy jewish culture in china with books and titles
00:35:07.120 like become rich like a jew citation to make money with the jews and jewish people and business the bible 0.90
00:35:15.360 of how to live their lives citation you can never get away with this in the u.s make money like jew yeah 0.98
00:35:22.960 oh beautiful finally some portion of readers will see jews not being particularly smarter than everyone
00:35:32.240 else yet still ending up in their positions of power as definitive proof that something nefarious is
00:35:38.240 afoot the jews are somehow conspiring to control our democracy first let us emphatically guarantee you 1.00
00:35:45.120 that there is no intentional jewish conspiracy there are enough stupid jews with low self-control 1.00
00:35:51.040 as there are with any large enough population that the mechanisms of this system would be revealed 1.00
00:35:56.880 if it did exist jews find it just as confusing that they outcompete other groups as outsiders do 1.00
00:36:03.440 there's no shadowy group advancing their careers any more than there is a shadowy group of catholics 0.85
00:36:09.120 slotting church members disproportionately into positions on the supreme court if you are wondering
00:36:14.640 on what authority we can state so emphatically that there is no secret society of jews controlling 0.81
00:36:19.760 the world read quote the jewish cabal theory unquote in uh in the appendix um again buy our
00:36:26.640 book the pragmatist guide to crafting religion i've got a note here on the the supreme court thing because
00:36:32.400 people might not know this and we talked about this earlier in the book 20 of americans are catholic
00:36:37.040 but in the last supreme court cycle when we wrote the book 80 of the supreme court was raised in the
00:36:41.520 catholic house so do we take that to mean that there's a shadowy group of catholics controlling
00:36:45.680 our society like no i just think that something about catholic culture which we talk about what
00:36:51.120 in catholic culture in the episode about the great replacement that already happened or what what how
00:36:57.520 catholics changed america i think is what we call the the episode yeah it goes into why catholics do so 0.99
00:37:02.160 much better in the legal profession due to cultural and not genetic reasons anyway continue
00:37:08.000 while jews do benefit from nepotism they don't benefit more from it than other groups that share
00:37:14.240 a strong sense of cultural identity like mormons and catholics we would even go so far as to argue
00:37:20.320 the jewish networks are less nepotistic and supportive than those belonging to jehovah's 1.00
00:37:25.600 witnesses and scientologists anyone living in the u.s has access to these kinds of nepotistic
00:37:31.760 networks through various groups they can choose to join heck these days the effective altruist
00:37:36.480 community's nepotistic network will help people more than the jewish network and it is open to all
00:37:43.120 seriously like people are like oh jews are nepotistic yeah jews are nepotistic catholics
00:37:48.720 are nepotistic the scientologists are nepotistic sororities and fraternities are nepotistic that's
00:37:53.600 why people join them for the quote-unquote career advancement they are jews are not super nepotistic
00:37:58.800 by that i mean they don't have some disproportionate ability to be nepotistic or i i i and again as
00:38:06.240 people who associate with lots of jews i have not seen them be more nepotistic than i have seen other 1.00
00:38:13.840 groups be if anything i've actually seen them be a little less nepotistic because the way that jewish 1.00
00:38:20.800 nepotism works in my experience actually is more of cultural fit nepotism so mo and i often get
00:38:29.200 benefits from jewish individuals in terms of like hiring us and stuff like that because we like vibe with jews
00:38:34.880 jews um it also just seems to be more meritocratic so those who within jewish networks broadly are able
00:38:42.080 to meritocratically show themselves to be the most expert or capable tend to rise so assuming that you
00:38:49.200 are within that and you're the best then you rise but like it's not your inherent jewishness that gets 0.97
00:38:54.880 you there it's it's i guess it's we'll say playing by the jewish value system or cultural system and being
00:39:00.400 within the broader network that seems to be the biggest thing whereas in the lds church you need
00:39:05.680 temple recommends in the ea community you have to say exactly the right things and champion exactly
00:39:11.840 the right causes and invest a lot of time like everyone has their separate rule set they're all
00:39:15.920 slightly different sports but yeah it is a pretty open sport if jewish people aren't somehow 1.00
00:39:22.640 cheating to get ahead in society how are they doing it well we don't have a strong answer we suspect our
00:39:27.600 private dinner parties at which we host people we think might change the course of world history
00:39:32.240 grant some insight around two percent of the u.s population is jewish and yet somehow when we
00:39:37.840 select high potential for impact guests at what to us feels like random around 50 or more end up jewish
00:39:45.680 how is this random selection method for people we think have a high likelihood of changing the world
00:39:50.640 pulling up mostly jews when inviting people to these dinners we often send out cold invitations to 0.67
00:39:56.480 people who recently wrote something online that we found intellectually stimulating or controversial
00:40:01.440 in a way that engages us it seems if you send cold invitations to creators of intellectually engaging
00:40:06.640 blogs podcasts and sub stacks a huge portion of them will be jewish why jewish culture encourages
00:40:12.560 adherence to invest time in the types of public discourse that can feel pointless even socially
00:40:18.000 dangerous to members of most other cultures this higher likelihood to speak publicly when others would
00:40:24.400 feel social pressure to stay quiet may also explain at least in part the preponderance of jewish 1.00
00:40:29.360 comedians something we discussed in detail in the chapter relation to pleasure in the arts on
00:40:36.080 so if you go to the the proportion of jewish comedians is insanely high i remember it was like one was looking
00:40:42.720 it was like 92 percent of like new york comedians in the 70s or something were jewish it was insanely high 0.98
00:40:48.560 and so when you look at this you're like okay so there's something pushing jewish people 0.98
00:40:52.960 to outcomes that lead them to be more visible for their controversial ideas and here you could say
00:41:00.080 okay because i think when people are contrasting jews to the general population
00:41:04.720 they the the mistake is is you shouldn't think of this as how are jews different from the general
00:41:09.920 population it's how are jews different from specific other populations that aren't getting these benefits
00:41:16.080 so let's contrast jews here with wasps that's white anglo-saxon protestants in america in wasp culture 0.77
00:41:22.560 which i'm sure many of our audience are familiar with would it be seen as high status to have
00:41:28.320 published a controversial like op-ed or sub stack post no you go to your family meeting and you'd be
00:41:35.040 shamed people would be like why are you doing all that weird stuff out there right you know stop
00:41:39.280 saying that weird stuff it's making everyone look at us like we're weird but within the jewish circles
00:41:45.360 people you go you know you go back to your family and they're like oh that was really cool how
00:41:49.040 you did that thing that no one else had thought before and so why are jews being socially rewarded 0.99
00:41:55.040 for this is interesting so keep going across all layers of jewish culture from rituals shavrusa
00:42:02.880 i know i butchered that to internal hierarchy the rabbinic system debate skill is both practiced
00:42:08.480 and rewarded at an unparalleled level vis-a-vis other cultures those who grew up in jewish culture
00:42:14.000 will therefore more enthusiastically call bullshit on society because their cultural framing trained 0.98
00:42:18.720 them to emotionally reward themselves for doing so it's not that jews are smarter than other people 1.00
00:42:24.880 are on average it's that when individual jews are smarter they're more likely to speak up in ways
00:42:29.840 to get them noticed essentially when not using pre-existing accreditation networks like the
00:42:34.880 universities guilds or secret societies individuals looking for the smartest people in society to hire and
00:42:40.800 befriend are going to search for people writing or saying engaging stuff in a public context and
00:42:46.160 those people are disproportionately jewish this gives jews a little used side path to power jews access 0.82
00:42:53.280 this side path not because they're smarter but because they have a cultural compulsion to share
00:42:57.920 engaging ideas publicly at higher rates take the top 10 controversial online intellectuals you like to
00:43:03.840 follow focus on those you believe you chose without any outside influence small blogs undiscovered
00:43:09.520 podcasts and the like and try to determine whether they have jewish ancestry we think you will be
00:43:15.280 surprised and if our theory is accurate it means jewish over-representation in positions of power 0.96
00:43:21.040 will increase with the sustained rise in internet culture this theory does not explain why among the
00:43:26.400 highest ranked chess players 51 have at least one jewish parent when deciding whether or not valid keep that
00:43:32.480 in mind and it doesn't explain something else and it gets something wrong there in my little prediction is the
00:43:40.240 rapid crash of jewish exceptionalism look at iq it was what is it like nobel prize winners over time the percent 0.71
00:43:50.480 that are jewish has been dropping dramatically over the past 20 years or so and you actually see this in other areas of
00:43:56.480 jewish exceptionalism was the rate dropping dramatically as to why the rate of jewish exceptionalism is
00:44:01.840 dropping dramatically i suspect it actually has a lot to do with in for example the noel prize
00:44:08.080 asian competition it's that over that period asian countries that got higher access to nutrition
00:44:15.040 ended up reaching their iq potentiality their cultural iq potentiality which allowed them to compete
00:44:20.400 in these marketplaces but i also think that when you look at like the nuance of the subject and you
00:44:24.800 actually dig into it you try to find out what's actually going on you see why the focus on racializing
00:44:31.280 iq is often so wrong-headed and gets you to really wrong-headed interpretations which can cause you to
00:44:38.640 make decisions that are very bad or develop world schema that are very bad that leads you to for example
00:44:46.160 perceive like what why does it matter you know that you don't come into these schemas well it matters
00:44:52.160 because then you might end up perceiving jews as maybe having some sort of like cabal or nepotistic
00:44:57.760 framework and and that's why they're getting ahead and so then maybe you are like well i can't have too
00:45:03.120 many jews working in my company or they'll build this nepotistic network and now your company has lost 0.99
00:45:08.000 access to like really high quality talent or you waste time fighting a group that really you have no
00:45:14.080 beef with you know you look at like a leather apron club and it's like well many of the best people at
00:45:18.960 pushing right leaning politics in the united states like ben shapiro and stuff like that are jewish like 0.99
00:45:24.640 you you you can't yeah that's my take there this piece actually then goes much further talking about
00:45:32.800 jews and communism which is to say that g's are not actually actually we have time to read this because
00:45:37.680 you got 10 minutes and then you're cutting off right so why don't you read this section okay it's
00:45:42.080 pretty interesting in researching this subject we came across an interesting and widely believed conspiracy
00:45:47.920 theory that jews were overrepresented among the bolshevik communists who took over russia we say
00:45:54.400 this is interesting as digging into the stats actually presents the opposite question why were
00:45:59.440 so few jews represented among the bolsheviks jews only made up around three percent of highly ranked
00:46:05.760 bolsheviks well this is an over representation of jews it is dramatically below what one would expect 0.91
00:46:11.760 given jewish over representation in other areas of power for a deeper well-sourced discussion of this
00:46:17.520 check out the wikipedia article citation in short it looks like there were far far fewer jews in the
00:46:23.440 upper level of the communist party than one would expect anecdotally simone's jewish side of the
00:46:28.800 family had to leave russia because they were white russians people who fought for the support of the
00:46:33.760 czar we suppose the lack of jewish support for bolsheviks shouldn't be surprising based on the fact that
00:46:39.760 the communist government of russia later specifically targeted jews to be eliminated as a cultural group
00:46:45.440 citation this should not be surprising given that karl marx was wildly anti-semitic quote what is the
00:46:52.560 worldly religion of the jew huckstering what is his worldly god money an organization of society which 0.98
00:47:00.160 would abolish the preconditions of huckstering and therefore the possibility of huckstering would make
00:47:06.000 the jew impossible unquote marx furthermore complained that jews were quote reproducing like
00:47:12.480 lice unquote while some claim marx made statements like these in an attempt to hide his pro-jewish
00:47:18.800 inclinations as he had some jewish ancestry citation the fact that marx's goal was the systematic
00:47:25.520 elimination of judaism as a cultural identity would make such obfuscation conspiratorial in the extreme
00:47:32.240 citation there but yeah um it's just insane like yeah like his first book or something i think it
00:47:41.440 was his first because one of his books karl marx's was like the jewish problem um like communism is not
00:47:47.360 an ideology that is friendly to jewish individuals um or the jewish cultural group and it has not had a
00:47:54.320 historically like if you look at our own government if you look at the disproportional representation of
00:47:58.720 like jews in congress and stuff like that way way way way above what you had with the bolsheviks so 0.94
00:48:05.200 it's like it's just not true there isn't a connection there do you want to keep you have
00:48:10.960 time to read the this last outro here yeah generally generally we would shy away from conversations that
00:48:19.760 attempt to tie an iq trend to a specific ethnic group but this particular instance warrants discussion
00:48:25.520 because people use the myth of jews higher iq to dismiss the role jewish culture plays in their
00:48:30.960 success obviously given the topic of this book the pragmatist guide to religion from which we're
00:48:35.600 reading just a reminder you should check it out and give it a five-star review on amazon this myth is
00:48:41.440 very important for us to dispel we shy away from the top of kick from the topic of iq trends as they
00:48:47.680 broadly relate to ethnic groups for two reasons first as you can see from the case of claims around jewish
00:48:53.600 iq data used to prove this stuff is often far more shaky than those who would authoritatively
00:48:59.840 share it may imply second note here because because society says you will be shamed and you will be
00:49:08.480 attacked if you publicly mention that there might be as you know iq differences between ethnic or cultural
00:49:14.160 groups it leads people to be like well i know that if jews had a much higher iq than other groups
00:49:21.520 people wouldn't be allowed to say that you know like people in universities and people in positions
00:49:25.680 of power in our society wouldn't be allowed to say that without risk of being fired so when i hear
00:49:30.320 some random person online to say it was authority it must be true because i know that i wouldn't get
00:49:37.200 it from positions of power right but this is the problem you get across sort of this research around
00:49:43.200 race and iq and stuff like that is because everybody knows that the mainstream power players can't say
00:49:52.000 this stuff when they see minor people say this stuff they're like oh it must be true because so so
00:50:00.240 basically the urban monoculture in shaming talk of this makes the sources that do try to elevate it
00:50:06.960 feel much more believable to your average well-intentioned person they're just like oh well they must
00:50:12.400 have a higher iq it's just we can't talk about it or act as if they do because that could lead to
00:50:17.040 racism or whatever when the actual truth of all this is much more interesting totally
00:50:23.680 second even if iq does vary across ethnic groups such variation is largely irrelevant as of our
00:50:30.400 generation and any variation would be totally irrelevant going forward in our species the idea of one
00:50:37.120 ethnicity being superior to another along any number of measures is nonsensical in a world in 0.93
00:50:42.800 which families can create their own vision of the ubermensch in just a few generations through the
00:50:48.160 use of ivg and polygenic risk score selection objectively the more cultural and genetic diversity
00:50:54.000 there is in the genetic pools that uplift themselves through technology the more robust and safe the future
00:50:59.920 of our species will be when performing intentional genetic selection at the level of individual genes
00:51:05.760 rather than ethnic groups the more colors of paint on the palette the better whenever we hear someone 0.95
00:51:11.760 talking about ethnic iq differences we feel like we just broke into the big bad's lair at the end of 0.99
00:51:18.240 an action movie to find him monologuing about the sharpness of the masterfully honed samurai sword
00:51:23.840 he used to win many impressive historic battles waving it around like a goofus bro we have guns
00:51:30.480 fully automatic guns no one cares about your samurai sword 0.99
00:51:36.480 that's great well i have on this top nobody is that way you know it is it's so dumb it's so dumb 0.99
00:51:49.440 but that that's what's so satisfying about racism in general is that it is like 0.98
00:51:53.600 it's dumber when you consider that in the developed world yeah rapidly rapidly fast 0.69
00:52:01.520 iq is falling we all have another podcast in the developed world it looks like we're gonna have a 0.82
00:52:05.360 one standard deviation decline in iq within the next 75 years that is stunning but it also means that if
00:52:12.560 you're like oh this group has like i don't know one quarter of a standard deviation higher iq than this
00:52:18.640 group it's like well that won't be relevant within literally one to two generations of today like so
00:52:25.680 why are we talking about this the thing that matters is the people who do polygenic selection
00:52:30.960 versus the people who don't do polygenic selection or the people who do genetic modification versus
00:52:35.760 people who don't do genetic modification it's not an ethno group thing or at least some form of like
00:52:41.680 how a group is choosing its mates is gonna matter a lot right so i just yeah it's it's it's sad
00:52:48.560 and pathetic when i see people try to make fights about this given that it's just not relevant
00:52:53.840 anymore if you are a forward thinking instead of backwards thinking person it it really matters but i i
00:52:59.680 would say in the same vein we also need to be honest here that while there aren't like meaningful
00:53:06.160 iq differences between ethnic groups that are going to be persistent there are between individuals
00:53:11.760 and that's one thing that our society really needs to get over is people who had huge advantages
00:53:18.240 in their lives because you know that's who we're usually talking to like i'll be talking to a
00:53:21.520 friend at like stanford business school and they'll be like everyone's born exactly genetically the same
00:53:27.440 everyone had the same shot at getting into stanford business school as i had you know and i'm like
00:53:32.320 that is just not true you had a huge amount of systemic privilege over other people yeah you're
00:53:38.160 likely born smarter than your peer group and this it's really bad in the pull yourself up by your own
00:53:44.560 bootstraps crew where they didn't come from wealthy families so they don't know to have any level of
00:53:49.440 humility around why they were able to achieve things and their peer group wasn't they're just 0.97
00:53:53.440 like well my peer group is lazy and pathetic and terrible you know the bill cosby effect i guess i'd call 0.88
00:53:59.040 and it's like no you likely had a genetic advantage that other specific individuals in that group didn't 0.97
00:54:04.720 have and that should give you more compassion for their situation but it also matters when you look at
00:54:10.560 society more broadly and is this effect going to increase i mean obviously this is the other thing
00:54:15.280 when i say to people like as soon as you realize that there's a genetic correlate to iq it's like
00:54:19.920 and you can see that's being really heavily selected against right like the beginning of idiocracy
00:54:24.800 ain't a joke as the 21st century began human evolution was at a turning point natural selection
00:54:33.920 began to favor different traits with no natural predators within the herd it began to reward those
00:54:40.720 who reproduce the most having kids is such an important decision we're just waiting for the 0.98
00:54:46.800 right time it's not something you want to rush into obviously oh shit i'm pregnant again 0.98
00:54:53.680 i got too many damn kids there's no way we could have a child now not with the market the way it is 0.99
00:54:59.360 no come on over here he don't care about you well we finally decided to have children 0.99
00:55:07.120 and i'm not pointing fingers but it's not going well
00:55:10.160 and so it went for generations although few if any seem to notice like that's obviously happening
00:55:31.280 like obviously obviously happening if you look at the data or if you just anecdotally look around you
00:55:36.960 in the world and this is something that we need to take seriously because a lot of people are going
00:55:41.360 to suffer and die if we don't yeah uh okay i'm gonna hop on my call do you want lasagna or do you
00:55:52.640 want reheated indian food because i have lasagna in the fridge now reheated indian food and then we'll do
00:55:58.400 a lasagna tomorrow tomorrow all right is and it's just all in the fridge yeah it's a it's a full thing
00:56:03.680 of mango chicken because i want me to pan pan fry it and then steam some rice uh pan fry it but put
00:56:10.080 in a little bit of coconut milk so that you can cut off if you have you don't have any open coconut
00:56:15.760 milk right if i don't then open a can you don't want whole milk instead as a base no okay coconut
00:56:22.080 milk i love you i love you too hmm your mom continues to impact me and i think of her phrases all the
00:56:31.600 time still which was like well we were just you know based on our conversation right now i just keep
00:56:36.480 thinking and i titled our our stream yard thing intelligent j-o-o's and it was your mom that got me started on that
00:56:44.480 she's like oh i used to do that i got her no no yeah she got me started on that it was from south
00:56:49.600 park originally yeah but it was originally from south park all right look i didn't want to have
00:56:52.960 to say this but i think maybe we're not seeing heaven because one of us doesn't believe in it enough
00:56:57.600 huh heaven could be like the pixie fairies of bubble yum forest you only see them if you really believe 0.78
00:57:01.920 in them what you know maybe we're not seeing heaven because one of us is a j-o-o but your mom
00:57:08.000 popularized it within our family because she's so hip to everything 0.90