Based Camp - The Jewish Social Technology That (Used To) Mitigate Antisemitism Was Inverted

00:00:00.000 hello simone today is going to be a spicy conversation and it's going to piss off a

00:00:06.140 lot of people but it is one that needs to be had 0.58

00:00:10.540 right now in america we mentioned this on another episode but jews need to be paying attention to 0.57

00:00:17.540 this 24 of young people in america today endorse anti-jewish tropes right like are what you would

00:00:27.000 be seen as anti-Semitic. If you go to people in their 80s, it's around 5%. So it's one in four

00:00:36.840 versus one in 20. This is a massive generational change. And I would point out here that the

00:00:43.700 sentiments against Jews among youth higher than it is against groups like Blacks in the United

00:00:51.120 States now where it is 17% have anti-black resentment in the United States where it's 24% 0.62

00:00:58.360 anti-Jewish resentment that's so funny because I grew up on like 70s 80s and 90s content that 0.78

00:01:06.420 pretty heavily made fun of Jews like I'm thinking about Mel Brooks films the princess bride all 0.99

00:01:13.700 these shows that would have like a ton of like safe because nobody actually when I used to don't

00:01:19.100 believed it no one edgy fake humor like racist humor i would make racist jokes about inuits

00:01:24.520 that was like the core community eskimos you know you know make make fun of their fake kisses they 0.63

00:01:32.340 don't even know how to love you know like everybody thinks eskimo jokes are funny because nobody is

00:01:38.180 aware of eskimo discrimination at least if you're in the united states like it's not something that

00:01:43.540 you are around or you see so it comes across as funny the idea of jews being actually discriminated 0.80

00:01:50.500 against in the 80s and the 90s was actually comical it right so we we could make fun of them

00:01:57.780 because we knew that they were fine and they weren't doing anything it was comical that when 1.00

00:02:03.560 jewish directors and producers were making the star wars prequels they literally made this 0.89

00:02:10.140 character oh god yes no my tricks gonna work gonna make all the money nothing of it yeah all 0.99

00:02:18.700 right they didn't think this could one day be a problem for our community and the the problem 0.76

00:02:24.980 like the thing that makes this entire conversation so dangerous for the jewish community long term 0.96

00:02:31.880 like when i'm projecting what happens long term with judaism is that somebody comes out there and

00:02:37.700 says hey it looks like anti-semitism is exploding right now and then the obvious next question is

00:02:45.620 is why right yeah yes the obvious next question is okay is it entirely due to some sort of external

00:02:54.500 social contagion that has nothing to do with jewish communities which could be possible

00:02:58.120 it could be possible but that's actually much worse for jewish communities if that's true 0.76

00:03:03.640 because it's much harder to change the behavior of people other than yourself than it is yourself. 0.99

00:03:09.680 Yeah, it's preferable. And I'm giving the example because after I brought up a bunch of

00:03:14.180 theories around why there's so much Indian immigrant hate, one person wrote to us, and I'm

00:03:20.320 going to try to put an episode together about it, but they wrote to us and shared fairly abundant

00:03:24.160 evidence indicating that a lot of the Indian immigrant hate is actually astroturfed by

00:03:30.380 muslim indians and pakistanis who just really freaking hate hindi indians and so canadians 0.54

00:03:37.660 that like even like not even so i mean there is some job resentment but like not nearly to the

00:03:45.760 level that you see online yeah yeah but like that's that's an example of something that could

00:03:49.660 be at least in large part external and not caused by internal activity because you know like there's

00:03:55.400 a very large immigrant community here that is indian and there's not there's not a lot of like

00:04:02.900 hate about it there is what i can yeah and i can say this very concretely so we live outside of

00:04:08.400 philadelphia we live in a majority indian neighborhood our neighborhood is 70 indian

00:04:13.800 and i have not seen any anti-indian sentiment amongst any of my neighbors any of the the

00:04:20.420 friends at octavian school well and keep in mind i ran for office in our in our area right i attended

00:04:25.380 a ton of conservative republican events i knocked doors on the houses of hundreds of republicans

00:04:33.080 who lived here only once only once because i will say that there was one time when one person said

00:04:38.340 one thing and they're just like well i don't like all these kids running around in the streets and

00:04:43.480 that was it it was oh god forbid that these people actually are happy and have children that run in

00:04:47.740 the streets like i would want my kids to do and this is like a safe and keep in mind that you

00:04:52.580 might be like well you don't participate with the edgy conservative groups no we participate with

00:04:56.560 the edgy we we're like friends with the people who ran a lot of the trump campaign stuff and as

00:05:02.840 we're known as like right-wing influencers we get an edgy right-wing influencers we get invented to

00:05:07.740 the edgy parties where people make you know racialist jokes and stuff like that even even

00:05:13.720 just to be anyone wanted to say something about resenting indian immigrants in our indian immigrant

00:05:18.880 heavy community they would have told me immediately because all of the like attacks made against me 1.00

00:05:24.300 were like look at this evil racist woman so they would have told me because they would have thought 0.98

00:05:29.040 that like the the rumors were true so i just want to i want to illustrate that anyway so but this

00:05:34.920 does not seem to be something where the jew hate is endogenous or it doesn't but the the side point

00:05:41.260 i wanted to make to the indian comments i do think that there is actual indian resentment

00:05:44.860 in the united states i just don't think it's in our region very much yeah yeah and it's important

00:05:49.760 and especially in canada there are actual communities where it is normal but canada 0.99

00:05:54.200 is getting a completely different type of indian immigrant than we're getting here well and i will

00:05:57.480 add that i think especially among tech workers where they see that like people are actually just

00:06:02.780 hiring indians non like clear yeah they're firing qualified american citizens and hiring

00:06:10.860 honestly less qualified indian immigrants there is obvious resentment yeah we need regulations 0.67

00:06:17.580 around that that's a whole other thing that we can get to in another video where you could go 0.53

00:06:22.040 watch the video where she crashes out about indians because she goes on a 30 minute rant

00:06:25.420 about all of the valid complaints people have about indians but in this episode we're talking

00:06:30.020 about you just to just great yeah just out of the frying pan into the fire let's go

00:06:36.500 if we often talk about the trans community right and i'm like basically in the group that has ended

00:06:45.600 up becoming the new right many of the majority of whom used to be leftist we sort of originally

00:06:51.420 approached the trans thesis with the idea of okay we can give this community some additional rights 0.53

00:06:56.960 So they can do their weird whatever thing that they want to do. 0.87

00:07:00.320 And so long as they don't abuse those additional rights, it's fine, right?

00:07:05.620 And of course, if they did abuse those additional rights, that would be punished within the community first and most aggressively.

00:07:14.580 Right, because that would threaten their sovereignty and rights and acceptance.

00:07:18.520 exactly and when we saw that the opposite was happening that the community kept from the most

00:07:25.720 institutional levels from the highest levels of the community protecting their worst actors

00:07:32.500 and going out of their way to protect their worst actors it then creates a situation where

00:07:39.600 the any any community that's abutting them has to attack the entire community to deal with the

00:07:45.780 negative externality of that community's worst actors. If I'm going to word this a different way,

00:07:52.280 okay, let's suppose we're not talking about trans people or Jewish people here. We're talking about

00:07:57.080 blurbs and turbs, okay? Either two groups. And some blurbs sometimes grape little turbs, okay? 1.00

00:08:05.740 And so a turb mob comes over to the blurbs, right? And they've all got pitchforks. And they say, 0.99

00:08:12.420 that man right there raped one of our children and we can prove it. And then the blurb leader 0.96

00:08:19.000 comes out and says, if you want to pull him out of our community and put him in a prison,

00:08:25.260 you need to go through all of us and put us all in prison. Now, if I'm a blurb who's not that

00:08:31.660 particular elected leader, I'm likely like the evilest person in that room right now,

00:08:39.040 the person i'm most terrified of is that leader right it's not even the mob because that leader

00:08:46.700 is turning me and the entire community into grist over something that obviously if somebody in our

00:08:55.980 community is acting like a bad actor and we're preventing them from being punished

00:08:59.620 we we make our entire community and a negative externality to anyone we're around 1.00

00:09:05.980 and recently on multiple occasions the jewish community has done this in spades and when i say 0.99

00:09:14.920 in spades i mean to an attempt that is so agreed that i would ask and like i i know we have jewish 0.79

00:09:24.200 friends i'm gonna i'm gonna put together a plan to stop this because jews used to have cultural

00:09:29.680 institutions that were entirely designed to stop exactly this phenomenon okay but these cultural 0.68

00:09:37.900 institutions basically failed in the i want to say 1600 or 1700s oh what happened after the 1500s

00:09:45.420 for jews oh is that when pogroms started picking up all i'm saying is there might what existed

00:09:51.540 before then that stopped this what what is this magical dancing there were multiple jewish 0.67

00:09:57.180 institutions that when a Jew would scam or go out of their way to hurt non-Jews that were living

00:10:06.020 alongside the Jewish community, the Jewish community would heavily financially punish them,

00:10:11.220 shun them, and expel them. Wow. And that is a very, very useful thing to do. 1.00

00:10:16.700 To give an idea of how severe these were, we have recordings of Jews for minor. And note, 0.63

00:10:23.700 this wasn't just for major things. It's noted that for even minor scams or misrepresentations

00:10:29.860 to Gentiles, something was applied to them. It's a Jew word. I don't know what it means 0.99

00:10:34.180 exactly. Jews will know it. But it meant that that person's kids were not even considered 1.00

00:10:39.140 marriable. So it didn't just apply to you. It applied to your entire genetic line. So

00:10:43.920 just with some research in front of me here, these institutions were called Kehala and

00:10:51.040 bit din, or in English, communal councils and rabbinic courts. They were specifically active

00:10:57.700 between 1000 and 1750 CE. And if you do an analysis, so you look for pogroms, this is

00:11:07.540 mass Jewish killings, pre-1750, you do have some, and some that were very large, like the

00:11:15.340 Cominscally uprising. If you just on average look at pogroms per year and how severe those

00:11:21.660 pogroms were during that period, and then contrast it with the period after these institutions

00:11:27.900 had collapsed, you see enormously more. Like it's an order of magnitude more in terms of violence

00:11:36.040 and frequency that you had pogroms after these institutions had collapsed. So just an AI's

00:11:42.700 thoughts on this. Pre-1750, violence was often tied to existential crises, plagues, crusades,

00:11:47.880 uprising, with fewer but sometimes larger single events, e.g. Kaminsky's rivaled or exceeded many

00:11:54.840 later waves in raw death toll. Post-1750 saw more frequent, repeated waves of pogroms,

00:12:01.260 hundreds per wave, and this, you know, culminating with the Holocaust, right? So these institutions 0.92

00:12:06.900 actually appeared to serve their role they appeared to significantly reduce anti-semitism

00:12:14.160 and the jewish community has ever since they collapsed been demonstrably i think weakened

00:12:21.860 in their ability to operate and the reason i put so much emphasis on you used to have this technology

00:12:27.880 is judaism as a religion if they want to adopt something they can't just go up and be like i

00:12:31.280 have a new idea about how we should do something if they can say here's how we used to do it

00:12:35.600 look at the pogroms per year when we did this look at the pogroms per year after we did this

00:12:40.720 that can be pretty persuasive because you have both a mathematical a historic and a religious

00:12:46.400 argument for reinstituting these but today you have an instance where the two of the big instances

00:12:52.720 that we're going to go over that are really emblematic of this is major youtube streamer

00:12:57.140 ends up covering a community of orthodox jews living i think somewhere in new york city

00:13:03.960 yes Tyler Olivier's like what this guy goes along goes to various groups that are doing

00:13:10.960 bad things immigration fraud throwing poo at each other in India which is just like a cultural

00:13:15.480 and even just general crime in New York that is not specific to a group right but the point is

00:13:21.820 is that he has targeted other specific sub-ethnic groups in the past four things that are a group

00:13:27.760 doing a local traditional festival around like feces throwing is far more racially inflammatory

00:13:34.520 because that's a just a traditional festival that's really only hurting that community

00:13:38.160 potentially then it's documented their immune system it looked fine yeah welfare fraud by 0.76

00:13:45.560 orthodox jewish communities in new jersey right like this the the fraud that he was pointing out

00:13:52.060 has been historically documented it's been documented in multiple orthodox jewish communities

00:13:58.100 it is even in this case extremely well documented like this is not a going out there and promoting 0.95

00:14:06.240 some sort of stereotype or something like this this community is acting as genuine bad actors

00:14:13.120 in a way that is hurting the quality of life like our economic system the people around them are

00:14:19.400 suffering because of the way that this community is abusing the u.s tax system and welfare system

00:14:26.180 and we'll go into other instances of this but in this instance what was so wild about this is the 0.84

00:14:31.540 adl you do not get more mainstream of a jewish organization than the adl now this was nice to

00:14:39.840 me i didn't think the anti-defamation league was jewish per se i thought they were just

00:14:45.600 broadly progressive or not i've always thought of them as a predominantly jewish organization

00:14:52.120 really let's see what's the other jewish organization let's see if they also went

00:14:56.180 out against him i don't know i don't know of any big jewish non-profits aside from i don't know

00:15:02.100 whoever whatever foundation made the holocaust museums possible or whatever foundations i didn't

00:15:08.540 think there were like jewish-led charities that had big leading names it's the adl really it's

00:15:17.340 just known for being jewish the mainstream jewish quote-unquote protection non-profit is the anti

00:15:22.260 defamation league the adl okay so that's like the main organization famous for fighting anti-semitism

00:15:28.780 explicitly yes the mission the official mission of the adl is to stop the defamation of jewish

00:15:34.000 people is a cure justice and fair treatment for all oh okay i didn't know sorry so the adl comes

00:15:42.640 out okay attacks him and he is immediately de-platformed from from platforms like patreon

00:15:53.800 after having this done yeah he's posted things that are inflammatory so it's not like

00:15:58.240 this was just too spicy for people wow no it was it was that the jewish community when he spotted 0.53

00:16:05.860 real fraud went out and and and this is now if you're a jewish person the jews at the adl that 0.66

00:16:14.680 did this they are an existential threat to the jewish community because what they have now said 0.74

00:16:21.700 is as long as jews have cultural and political power in the united states we will not allow you

00:16:27.420 to punish or even notice or talk about bad actors within our community but this wasn't the only 0.63

00:16:35.940 instance recently another egregious instance is there was 33 million dollars of health care fraud 0.98

00:16:42.580 by an orthodox jewish individual obviously like we freak out when the somalians do this 0.90

00:16:47.880 like trump and the administration should be freaking out when an orthodox jew does this

00:16:52.760 It doesn't matter who you are. Any form of, especially fraud using people's taxpayer money. 1.00

00:16:57.940 This fraud was killing people. Old people were dying because of this fraud. This is like on

00:17:03.780 record, okay? This guy was a monster. And that is not disputed even by the organizations that 0.98

00:17:12.220 attempted to defend him. But a large organization that we'll be going into.

00:17:16.100 note not a fringe or extremist jewish organization either this is the mainstream

00:17:21.920 habad jewish organization for protecting jewish prisoners that entire purpose is to fight for

00:17:29.860 freedom for orthodox jewish individuals convinced the trump administration to give this person

00:17:35.700 a pardon not because they do not think that his actions led to people's deaths not because they 0.69

00:17:42.840 do not think that he stole from the american taxpayer through fraud but because he's an orthodox 0.62

00:17:48.960 jew wow this is really existentially bad for the jewish community that is bad i had no idea 0.99

00:17:59.620 that's terrible that is really bad that's terrible if you are wondering how they could

00:18:07.360 conceivably signal that this was an okay thing to do the core argument that the administration made

00:18:13.780 when releasing him is that he didn't personally financially benefit from his fraud that it was

00:18:19.960 mostly to keep a failing business alive which is factually untrue he stole we know he stole at least

00:18:26.860 five million dollars personally as a ghost salary i think the argument is that he had to pay it back

00:18:32.620 in fines or something after he was caught but it's like yeah but he intended to steal it right

00:18:37.500 and there's still people fighting for money from this so no it's not that everyone has been

00:18:41.240 reimbursed or anything like that uh but that most of the fraud was done to try to protect a failing

00:18:46.220 business that had overextended but that doesn't if you have a failing business especially a hospital

00:18:51.680 that's caring for elderly and infirmed individuals and you because of the way that you are conducting

00:18:57.340 fraud to try to keep that alive are leading to people's deaths and for people suffering

00:19:03.860 at a large scale, you need to let that fail.

00:19:07.440 Like not being able to let your business fail in committing fraud at this scale is not an

00:19:12.800 ethical thing to do, especially while stealing to the tune of $5 million from the failing

00:19:20.340 company, exacerbating the problems like this, this picture of somebody who just let things

00:19:26.120 get a bit out of hands doesn't work when you consider the five million that he stole during

00:19:30.680 this process that's on record and people are like oh he had a external accounting group that was

00:19:36.280 handling the fraud on his behalf i mean it's shown in court records he knew and he pleaded guilty to

00:19:42.020 knowing the fraud was happening but in addition to that like i i'm actually okay like if if somebody

00:19:47.200 was like look employees were doing this he just then wanted to protect their jobs okay fine i have

00:19:53.580 helped cover for my own employees moral lapses in the past as a boss it's something that just

00:19:58.840 happens and comes up and if that was what he was going through then i would understand but that

00:20:05.820 doesn't explain the five million dollars that he took out in ghost salaries and that's what we know

00:20:11.360 of that's the fraud we were able to prove five million dollars that requires active action on

00:20:18.120 his behalf not an external accounting firm or anything like that like i'm trying here okay but

00:20:24.200 this was just a bad actor who didn't care about the lives that he destroyed and people are like

00:20:30.220 well he's old he would have died in prison good good this is why we have a prison system right i 0.98

00:20:36.260 want the somalians who do this stuff going to prison i want jews who do this stuff to go out 0.96

00:20:40.320 of prison i i it shouldn't matter what community someone is from and the simple effing optics of 0.91

00:20:45.860 this that habad an organization that is staffed by otherwise sane intelligent people knowing the

00:20:52.760 sentiment in america right now against the jewish people growing in negativity knowing what a hot

00:20:59.300 button issue because of the simolean fraud stuff that we're dealing with because of nick shirley's 0.75

00:21:03.540 reporting fraud of exactly this type is that they would go out of their way to almost pathologically

00:21:10.540 attempt to free an obvious bad actor and do it successfully did no one in the organization stop

00:21:17.900 to ask what are the optics of this and i think that well apparently not and that was because

00:21:26.520 there was no institution for causing or creating any sort of reward mechanism for asking that

00:21:32.280 because it doesn't matter to them if they do an action that on the whole hurts the jewish people

00:21:39.000 if it helps their status within their circles of Jewish society, which this did.

00:21:45.520 And reinstating these old courts would allow that.

00:21:49.040 And I think that this is really important for individuals, 1.00

00:21:51.660 like the Jews who are hearing this and want to yell at me for this. 0.95

00:21:54.080 Right now, these individuals did not ask,

00:21:58.060 how is this action going to reflect on the way that broader Jews are treated within society,

00:22:06.440 anti-Semitism more broadly,

00:22:08.020 the question in their head is how does this affect my standing within my circle of jewish society

00:22:15.840 and that's really bad that that's the case but it can be fixed also another externality that jews

00:22:23.680 should think of when they're thinking about the importance of building a system to address these

00:22:28.060 issues is how something like this affects non-jews who defend the jewish community when we saw charlie

00:22:36.500 kirk near the end say something like i'm thinking about turning against the jewish community or

00:22:42.000 having candace owens gone on because i am sick of after i do x y or z to defend them then this

00:22:49.540 comes out after me then i get accused of x y or z i i think that like there isn't an internal

00:22:55.760 thinking of we have people we jews have people outside the jewish community like simone and i

00:23:02.100 They're often accused of being overly pro-Jewish.

00:23:06.300 I mean, the reason we're pro-Jewish is because we're pro-strengths and Jews are out-competing other groups in many fields, right?

00:23:12.120 Like, we like groups that do well and are technologically and economically productive, especially high-fertility groups. 0.60

00:23:18.340 Like, there is an existential reason we are pro-Jewish, which is very instrumental. 0.91

00:23:23.620 If they weren't those things, then we would be anti-Jewish.

00:23:27.280 It's not like for some biblical reason or something like that.

00:23:30.020 or even because I like individual Jewish people.

00:23:33.440 There's a lot of groups where I have a lot of friends from that group, 1.00

00:23:36.420 but I still think in aggregate that group is an economic and technological drain on the global world.

00:23:43.920 But the point I'm making here is take somebody like Simone and I, who get flack.

00:23:48.860 You know, we do burn some of our credibility when we are seen as defending Jewish interests.

00:23:54.660 And then we see something like this happen.

00:23:58.380 mainstream organizations like the ADL and Chabad going out of their way to protect bad actors

00:24:06.140 within Jewish communities instead of working to address them themselves. Because then people who 0.97

00:24:11.300 have heard me defend Jewish things in the past, they come to, they go, Malcolm, you see, this is

00:24:15.020 proof that you're wrong about helping the Jews, defending the Jews, seeing the Jews as a group

00:24:20.260 that we can have as good actors in American society. And it makes me look stupid. And it 1.00

00:24:27.640 makes me and all of the other non-Jewish people who defend the Jewish community less likely to

00:24:34.540 do it in the future. The externalities from actions like this are manifold. And for those

00:24:40.300 viewers on the other side who hold a more anti-Semitic sentiment and are upset at us for

00:24:46.060 always coming off as overly filio-Semitic, keep in mind we are willing to criticize. We have a

00:24:53.520 number of episodes that are quite critical of jewish community and history our support for the

00:24:59.580 jewish community as we have said is instrumental to my goals for civilization and if actions of

00:25:06.680 that community make it look like that is no longer the case then my opinion changes if portions of

00:25:13.880 that community grow fast because there are definitely portions of the jewish community 0.93

00:25:17.940 that are extremely low technology extremely hostile to outsiders and very high fertility 0.98

00:25:23.620 if those portions end up becoming the dominant jewish population or controlling jewish institutions 0.68

00:25:31.060 then obviously i would not continue to take actions that are as supportive to the wider

00:25:37.540 jewish people i'm not like a you know whatever who was it ted cruz or whatever who's like oh

00:25:42.920 yeah i'll support israel whatever because the bible told me to i'm like no it's useful for my

00:25:48.600 goals as things are right now but if things change then it may no longer be useful to my goals

00:25:54.960 and so many jews are going to go because every time we do a video like this they come into the 0.99

00:25:59.300 comments and they say something like because they feel like this is a normal thing to say when

00:26:04.380 somebody says something like this or brings up topics like this that i am being anti-semitic by

00:26:09.140 saying this stuff. You are the problem. You are the reason why now 25% of young people have decided 0.97

00:26:15.960 that they are antisemitic. Okay. Because the dominant culture, like different cultures react

00:26:21.400 to injustices in different ways, but the dominant culture, especially within the right in the United

00:26:27.540 States, when they see somebody calling out genuine bad action, and then another person attempting

00:26:33.860 them to attempt to silence them by saying something like you're being racist or you're 0.77

00:26:38.680 being transphobic or you're being homophobic or you're being anti-semitic because wokes used that 0.63

00:26:42.700 for so long so we developed cultural technologies against that right like this is one of the core 0.93

00:26:47.940 things that has changed within you right is people can no longer go to us and say oh you like anime

00:26:51.820 that's nerdy i'm like suck it or you that's degenerate or that's against uh like people

00:26:56.700 like oh how do you police behavior without being able to shame people for this this or that it's 0.98

00:27:01.460 like we do not allow that at always in our communities anymore because wokes then grabbed 0.99

00:27:07.580 that social technology and realize they could use it right they could reclassify what these 0.98

00:27:11.920 categories were and they could use it and that a better way to promote good actions is through

00:27:16.820 modeling it right like in the way i treat my wife in the way i live in the way i'm having kids in

00:27:23.380 the way i try to interact with others i try to model good behavior and that is how we because

00:27:27.740 you're like oh how could you ever have good behavior unless you shame degeneracy and it's 0.53

00:27:32.020 like look i understand that that used to work when we were more culturally uniform but wokes figured

00:27:36.440 out how to use that. And so we haven't been using that as a cultural technology for a while. In fact,

00:27:40.060 we've been reflexively being like, ew, what a loser. Like anybody who attempts to shame people 0.97

00:27:44.300 along these categories. Jews are, because it worked for them for a long time, still reflexively

00:27:51.460 attempting to use this social technology. And what they do not see is it is isolating them

00:27:57.020 from the one group and from the wider, like of the groups in the United States, the group that is

00:28:04.920 most open to one allying with israel and helping jews within the united states is the new right 0.97

00:28:12.240 just like without like wokes when you see jewish students running from people on campus and locking

00:28:17.900 themselves in a library because they're afraid of being beaten up these are leftists who are doing

00:28:21.800 this you you are aware of this like the leftists regularly host rallies in the united states where

00:28:28.040 they say from the river to the sea they they want you exterminated right like this is not

00:28:33.540 you have one group you can go to right that you can form an alliance with and is open to that 0.98

00:28:39.800 alliance right and that group is the wider new right coalition but we're also not effing stupid 0.98

00:28:46.920 one you come to us with this oh you're being anti-semitic when clearly what i'm saying is 0.96

00:28:50.960 not anti-semitic this is factual evidence or clearly you know what tyler olivier was saying

00:28:56.800 when he made his video is not anti-Semitic, right?

00:28:59.540 This was like clear evidence, right, of this stuff. 0.89

00:29:03.700 And Jews know this stuff is happening. 1.00

00:29:05.660 They're not being stupid. 1.00

00:29:07.360 Jews know about the fraud in Orthodox Jewish communities, right? 1.00

00:29:13.800 And you could be like, well, we have trauma because of a genocide. 0.70

00:29:17.280 It's like a lot of groups have had genocides against them, okay?

00:29:20.200 None of those groups come to me and attack us for saying,

00:29:24.260 you're anti-argo because we attack all the groups on this this we have anti-quaker videos we have

00:29:30.460 anti-chatholic videos and the only group that regularly reflexively freaks out and it is this

00:29:36.400 reflexive freak out yeah that is causing the drift even within the right and if you look at the

00:29:42.880 political breakdown you can see the anti-semitic sentiment is growing in the right at the same rate

00:29:48.320 it's growing in the left right but ideologically we're not marching in the street saying from the 1.00

00:29:53.400 river to the seas yet right is to be aware where we are with you i think jews because they are used 0.98

00:30:00.340 to perceiving themselves as having an alliance with the left which is just not going to work 0.90

00:30:03.940 going into the future they listen to leftist criticism about stuff like gaza about stuff 0.97

00:30:10.860 like the war in iran when i don't care about this stuff you're helping us with this fucking good 0.97

00:30:15.160 like i kill him whatever right like yeah i feel like the woman from south park really that's great 1.00

00:30:22.360 you mean you don't mind no i hate gaza you go right ahead and blow down this whole fucking 0.99

00:30:27.900 thing that's swell that's the way i feel about all of that but when you set up communities 0.99

00:30:34.140 in the united states and actively scam our tax system and kill our elderly people and then when

00:30:42.460 our justice system attempts to do it things or when our citizen reporters attempt to do the

00:30:47.080 the just thing and attack them then how how can i say that this is tolerant this is no longer

00:30:55.380 a minority jewish position this is not a minority like the people on the right will sometimes be 0.84

00:31:00.820 like oh they randomly bombed some old church in whatever country it's like yeah i was in a freaking

00:31:04.860 muslim majority country there are like no christians there anymore whatever right like 0.94

00:31:08.160 i do not care about that that population had already wiped out the christian population there 1.00

00:31:12.980 so i'm wondering where all the christians went over the past 20 years maybe i'm okay with them 0.98

00:31:17.440 being bombed a little bit or they'll be like oh look at this video of jews spitting on christians 0.91

00:31:21.360 it's like and i can find videos of christians spitting on jews right like there's plenty of 0.89

00:31:24.720 who hate jews that doesn't mean that our two people cannot be allied with each other but the

00:31:29.980 very centers of jewish power acting in this way that does prevent a meaningful alliance as well

00:31:39.080 as jews in stuff like the comments under this video saying this is anti-semitic to say that 0.69

00:31:45.180 does prevent a durable alliance and don't give me oh this is a woke jews problem we are discussing

00:31:51.200 two organizations that have done this recently one of them is the adl okay maybe the adl but the 0.94

00:31:57.800 other is a chabad charity okay if you are unfamiliar with who the chabad are they are an

00:32:04.340 Orthodox Jewish group, okay?

00:32:07.420 They are, I think, the most mainstream,

00:32:10.500 sort of accepted by wider society,

00:32:13.040 Orthodox Jewish group. 1.00

00:32:16.560 Because the first people who should be going after 1.00

00:32:18.760 the people who go into the comments

00:32:20.100 and be like, this is anti-Semitic, 1.00

00:32:21.460 should be other Jews, right?

00:32:24.360 Because that hurts the Jewish community.

00:32:26.100 That is the person who says,

00:32:27.620 when you come after bad actors and obvious bad actors,

00:32:30.960 documented bad actors, I'm going to defend them.

00:32:34.340 well so if i my impression of when i i think about comments i've heard from jewish friends

00:32:42.340 about groups like these is they're like oh that's this subgroup you know they're not mine and i

00:32:49.760 think there is this problem of jewish communities being very sort of disconnected and balkanized to

00:32:56.780 a certain extent and not centrally governed of course so it's not like there's some vatican that

00:33:01.540 could be like we disavow this this is wrong it's more like well there's this they're this sect

00:33:06.000 that's entirely sovereign and we have no control over them i mean i guess what you're saying is

00:33:11.920 this is you you know how you deal with that there there so there's really a few solutions to this

00:33:19.420 from the perspective of jewish populations okay solution number one it's create genuine group

00:33:25.380 differentiation if somebody was to go to me because i regularly do this on air criticize

00:33:31.760 the vatican and they were to say well you're a christian like how do you criticize the vatican

00:33:36.380 or how do you criticize like this protestant sect or that protestant sect it's like i'm not that

00:33:41.460 sect i don't like that sect i think that sect is an act like and and people do not confuse me with

00:33:48.560 do you not think that jewish friends of ours have done that to be like that's absolutely not 0.92

00:33:53.820 absolutely not yeah this is a huge problem that jews have and there is a way around it but it is

00:34:00.180 a huge problem when in like suppose a unitarian universalist a branch of christianity acts as 0.96

00:34:08.180 some super bad actor as they often do pushes some woke nonsense right and nobody would think

00:34:14.380 of comparing us techno puritans or like evangelical protestants yeah because we would say

00:34:21.240 that group is heretical that group is not like us that group is not one of us and it wouldn't 0.99

00:34:28.800 make sense to compare us right whereas jews they fastidiously do not do this they say hey even if 0.82

00:34:38.000 you don't follow the practices of judaism anymore even if you left even if you blah blah blah you're 0.56

00:34:42.800 still jewish if you are matrilineally jewish this creates a major major problem and even worse if 0.96

00:34:49.100 like to a jew right like an orthodox jew right like a a reformed jew is still a jew right to an 0.98

00:34:57.040 evangelical protestant a unitarian universalist is not a christian and this is why they don't get

00:35:02.960 blamed as much because the jewish community themselves like the people who are in this video

00:35:08.540 who are going to be claiming oh malcolm you're being anti-semitic the vast majority of them

00:35:13.740 are probably going to be reformed jews because those are the people who react this way the most

00:35:18.020 yet they are protecting an orthodox jewish community these two communities are not the

00:35:23.660 same community it is the active lack of being willing to split and internally criticize that

00:35:31.780 is is causing ultra orthodox jews to be blamed for what woke jews are doing in hollywood that

00:35:40.560 have like culturally very few similarities to them and it's what's causing woke jews in hollywood to

00:35:45.600 be blamed what ultra orthodox jews are doing in israel right like but i actually would not advise

00:35:51.160 the jewish community to remove this tendency was in judaism it has a number of positive

00:35:56.800 externalities for the jewish community basically making it very hard for them to permanently split 0.95

00:36:01.180 and allowing them to recombine whenever they want you can look our video on why don't jews have

00:36:06.020 guns it goes really deep into jewish culture and why it is particularly resilient and this is this 0.92

00:36:12.240 is one of its big superpowers and you couldn't even do it if you were a Jew like even if you

00:36:16.280 were a Jew and you and you tried to create like a splinter group of Judaism it's just so embedded 0.92

00:36:19.820 in the Jewish mindset that all Jews are Jews that it would eventually recombine and in the mind of

00:36:26.160 the general public it wouldn't happen there's the second cultural strategy how do most groups

00:36:33.340 prevent this how did Jews prevent this historically speaking right well they have either cultural 0.87

00:36:41.560 traditions or legislative bodies for punishing people within their communities so that they can 0.75

00:36:50.560 like if within the jewish community there was some sort of a council or something like that

00:36:55.520 that could pass judgment on high-profile individuals like individuals within the

00:36:59.880 adl offer some kind of ex-communication or financial fines or some other punishment that

00:37:08.160 shows we the jewish community do not approve of this behavior we do not approve of defending

00:37:13.480 these individuals or what the ultra orthodox communities are doing and keep in mind how did

00:37:19.820 my cultural tradition handle this historically because it's actually well documented how did

00:37:23.860 backwoods people handle historically when somebody in our culture was making themselves a pest to

00:37:30.380 people of surrounding cultures they typically tortured and killed them and left their body

00:37:34.240 somewhere public god wait what is it the backwoods people in america did this oh yeah they would i

00:37:42.200 mean this is what like the regulators were right like regulators is this some formal societal term

00:37:47.900 yeah they would have basically groups of young men would get together if somebody had gone out

00:37:54.740 and like graped a girl or something like that and they would torture them and and kill them and leave

00:38:00.820 them hanging from a tree that everyone would see and everyone would be like i guess i'm not gonna

00:38:05.160 do that again and i think this is one of those places where you can see my cultural biases where

00:38:10.020 they may clash with some other cultural groups we have in the right-wing coalition show like when

00:38:15.900 the united healthcare ceo was killed my first reaction was oh well that's good right like the

00:38:22.480 legal system didn't work so you know now we do step two i'd also note here that this idea of

00:38:28.980 communities policing themselves is actually very normative. Most communities do the exact opposite

00:38:36.280 of this. Instead of attempting to protect their own bad actors, they make a point of going out

00:38:43.040 of their way to punish their own bad actors. So take, rather than a cultural community, let's

00:38:49.100 talk about like the wider YouTube streamer community, right? We have a bad actor like

00:38:54.380 Johnny Somalia. And Johnny Somalia is going to high trust countries and going around and effing 0.99

00:39:00.240 with people. And pretty much the entire streamer community has been on board with doing everything

00:39:06.300 that we in the wider community could to get this guy locked up. Okay. When he was arrested in Korea,

00:39:14.620 the community donated a legal fund for his prosecution. All right. Sent people over there

00:39:22.420 to help with that fund to help make sure he saw jail time right this is what jews should be doing 0.95

00:39:28.900 when a jew acts like a bad actor not the exact opposite now i'm not saying that this that jews 0.82

00:39:39.420 need to go as hard jews didn't do that historically they did the jewish version of that which is 0.63

00:39:44.480 taking away someone's money which i'm sorry i have to wait but actually i actually yes that

00:39:52.640 is historically how these jewish cohorts worked no you're just you must be describing though

00:39:57.340 jewish communities who are living in close proximity you know like a an insular jewish 0.84

00:40:02.620 community and that that is still what exists now i think the problem is that an entire jewish

00:40:10.500 community is being criticized for for exploiting the u.s government essentially no no no for 0.87

00:40:19.280 leveraging is rampant among ultra-orthodox jews in the united states both welfare and housing fraud 0.86

00:40:27.180 is is very widely reported is very rampant bad okay can i can i steal man this can i steal man 0.97

00:40:32.780 this okay go like they're only having the most jewish response right what is judaism but like

00:40:38.940 okay here's the law right and then like great okay how am I going to work around this oh I'll 0.52

00:40:45.240 just put like a piece of metal thread around things or golden thread or I will you know

00:40:49.820 switch around this this lampshade to work this way or oh I'm not allowed to let my hair show

00:40:56.580 well then I'll just wear a wig over my hair and then that's going to be fine understand what

00:41:00.220 you're saying and so what they're doing with the welfare fraud here is they're like oh so the

00:41:03.780 government has these rules okay so the government's giving this money to these organizations well then

00:41:08.580 i will run the organization and you will buy from it and then we were all and i'm from it like

00:41:13.360 they're just leveraging laws and they just need to close these loopholes because the whole reason

00:41:17.860 they exist is they're they're i know you you're saying this but you're not thinking in the wider

00:41:21.640 cultural context i even promoted the idea of i'm okay if you can screw over the system and get away

00:41:28.040 with screwing over the system that is completely fine like yeah shame on the system shame on the

00:41:33.640 system but if you get caught or shamed for exploiting the system and then because this is 0.62

00:41:41.620 this is the system working as it's supposed to the guy who got arrested the jewish guy who got

00:41:46.260 arrested that was the system working as intended the guy the the community that was being shamed

00:41:51.500 by the youtuber that was the system working as expected yeah but then when your community says

00:41:56.540 oh we got caught the system tried to prevent our fraud and then you attack the agents of the system

00:42:05.400 that tried to shut you down now you make it the entire community an existentially damaging thing

00:42:13.460 to have operating within that system that's true it's a bad strategic move yeah it's it's not a 0.99

00:42:18.480 bad it's a it's a move that they can get around so judaism has like high councils of rabbis and

00:42:23.680 stuff like that that they still that exist between yes among sects yes and i didn't know that what's

00:42:33.600 even more important is that these high rabbi councils and everything like that the people 0.99

00:42:39.340 who are going to listen to them the most are the ultra orthodox jews who have the biggest problem 0.51

00:42:46.340 with these sorts of frauds so if they said look anti-semitism is exploding right now and where 0.84

00:42:54.600 anti-semitism matters most is in the right because the right is the community that is looking like

00:42:58.540 it's allying with israel over europe it looks like it's the long-term natural ally for the 0.95

00:43:04.560 jewish people if it's exploding within our community because of like an existential thing 0.99

00:43:10.440 that there just doesn't like Jews what would you do if there was a subpopulation living within 1.00

00:43:16.520 Jewish communities regularly screwing you over and when you tried to do anything about it they 1.00

00:43:21.180 rounded the doors and tried to prevent you from doing anything about it it's like yeah I'm pretty 1.00

00:43:25.860 sure we know what you would do right because we've seen it before yeah you deal with it and I respect

00:43:31.540 you for dealing with it but know that I hold myself to those same standards right and you 1.00

00:43:37.580 would want allies that held themselves to those same standards and this isn't again jews used to 0.99

00:43:43.100 do this which we're going to go over in a second this isn't even like like you as a jew could say 0.91

00:43:47.600 let's go to one of these councils and promote the creation of some jewish body meant for handling

00:43:54.240 exactly this kind of thing and i'm going to note this is actually existential for jewityism to

00:44:00.120 survive and people say it's it's i totally get what you're saying i just don't really know how

00:44:05.620 to navigate around it if for example so here's this community like what i guess what you want 0.96

00:44:11.340 the rest of of all the jewish communities to do is be like we're not with them we condemn their 0.96

00:44:17.260 actions they should not do this it's wrong and of course certainly not censor anyone who's bringing 0.99

00:44:23.320 to light what they're doing what they need to do is they need to be punishing and have a system for

00:44:30.720 punishing but also just in their own lives socially punish the individuals who attempt to

00:44:37.200 use the anti-semitism card when something is clearly not anti-semitism okay that's fair i

00:44:43.020 because i was like i don't know how you think this this community for example that was you know the

00:44:48.220 bigger problem than this community than the fraud of this community is the individuals who are

00:44:54.300 trying to stop the system from working as it's supposed to yeah they are people who got

00:45:00.380 spent millions of dollars getting trump to pardon a guy who had killed people right they are the

00:45:07.860 people for a type of fraud that everyone on the right is pissed off about right now you can't

00:45:12.880 just let a guy sit in jail for doing fraud like why why is that such a problem right like they're

00:45:18.480 not even denying that he did it yeah and let's go over because i want to go over like what the

00:45:23.600 ADL is saying here. The point I'm making is the bigger problem isn't the individual bad actors.

00:45:28.820 It's the larger community level organizations like the ADL attempting to protect the bad actors

00:45:35.560 from the system working as intended. Right. And honestly, it goes against at least my like

00:45:41.400 stereotypical outsider take of Jewish law. Like if the game is work within the rules to your

00:45:47.560 best advantage, you know, make the rules work for you. But then, you know, you get caught,

00:45:53.060 then you you lost the game you need to be better at playing the system they weren't good enough

00:45:58.780 so like my bad i'm gonna have to try again and and the the reaction isn't oh no definitely don't

00:46:06.780 catch me like that's not how it works you have to follow the rules that's the whole point you

00:46:10.840 follow the rules and the thing is and the reason i keep pointing out is that judaism used to have

00:46:15.520 systems for dealing with this is this is the law of judaism it just these institutions collapsed a

00:46:21.540 few centuries ago, right? Like that doesn't mean that they are not historically accurate Judaism,

00:46:29.640 right? And because of that, if you are a stickler Orthodox Jew, and we have a lot of Orthodox Jewish

00:46:35.820 fans of this, you can work your way up. And we have a number of Orthodox fans who are Jewish

00:46:41.020 Orthodox Jews who are in positions of authority within these communities. Do something about this,

00:46:46.780 like advocate for recreating one of these institutions because if you don't and the

00:46:52.220 reason I said that this is so existential for Judaism is it's not just existential for Judaism

00:46:57.060 working alongside right-wing culture in the United States it is existential for Judaism

00:47:04.280 because we are your best long-term ally right like we created the state of Israel basically

00:47:10.460 and we funded it up until this point and we regularly help you guys out right like it is 0.99

00:47:14.900 really stupid to piss us off. But in addition to all of that, if you cannot deal with this,

00:47:21.860 Israel itself is going to collapse. Because right now, ultra-Orthodox communities in Israel 1.00

00:47:29.820 scam the state of Israel, right? Oh yeah, and that is a huge problem within the state of Israel 1.00

00:47:37.160 itself, for sure. And they are using that to outbreed their more economically and technologically 0.97

00:47:43.840 productive really i didn't even think about that yeah that's like an already known and existing 0.99

00:47:48.500 and very serious problem that does eventually need to be dealt with within the own jewish 0.98

00:47:52.920 community that's that oh huh and and worse than that not only are they economically and 1.00

00:47:58.600 technologically unproductive but they don't even fight in your wars they say you're economically

00:48:04.840 and technologically productive people to die to defend your land they are scamming you that is

00:48:11.380 in any other country we would call that a scam okay now you can say well you know it's not

00:48:16.860 technically a scam because they're following all the rules that thinking like simone said like it

00:48:22.100 you like follow in any other system we'd be calling a group that was doing that scamming the

00:48:27.760 system we'd be like this seems like a problem they're a negative externality on society they

00:48:33.060 disproportionately are involved in scams and welfare and living off the state and they don't

00:48:38.400 even fight in wars for us? Like, what are we even doing here, right? That community, because of their

00:48:45.580 birth rates, is eventually going to make Israel irrelevant, right? Like, Israel with its bright 1.00

00:48:51.360 futures, Jews with their bright futures because of this homeland of Israel that they've been able

00:48:55.520 to sort of create as a fortress nation, it has that bright future because of its technologically

00:49:00.340 and economically productive high fertility population. But if that population is drowned

00:49:04.240 out in a democracy, because it is a democracy in Israel, by a population that doesn't share

00:49:08.860 their values, that's existentially threatening. 0.97

00:49:12.060 And note here, I'm not talking about all Horeiti Jews, all ultra Orthodox Jews. 1.00

00:49:15.500 Many are sane and understand the problem, but it is a good chunk of them. 0.93

00:49:20.940 And if you could create a religious institution that was designed with exactly these two issues 0.89

00:49:27.380 in mind, how do we prevent this one population in Israel from eventually tanking the state 0.73

00:49:33.800 with the understanding that it's in that population's best interest as well. 0.99

00:49:37.540 Like, I've even talked to Jews in this population just about the math 0.99

00:49:41.460 that they are well aware of of how effed they are 1.00

00:49:44.600 when they become the majority of Jews in Israel, right? 1.00

00:49:47.960 Like, they're like, oh, well, it's good for this reason and good for this reason. 1.00

00:49:50.400 But obviously, we're going to have major military problems when that happens.

00:49:54.060 We're going to have major economic problems when that happens.

00:49:56.900 And they're like, and then we will reform parts of the system. 0.98

00:50:00.960 But they're not stupid. 0.99

00:50:03.800 Okay. Looking ahead and being like, okay, maybe it worked. Like, even if I'm only thinking from 0.97

00:50:10.860 a pro-Jewish perspective, I literally don't care about how I F over outsiders or anything like

00:50:15.620 that. Even if I only think from pro-Jewish perspective, even if I'm only thinking from

00:50:19.660 a pro-Jewish perspective from one of these ultra-Orthodox communities that is living off 0.99

00:50:24.360 of welfare, right? I still care about the future of the Jewish people.

00:50:29.440 So is this an issue of anti-Semitism in youth? This is a f***ing problem, right? Especially among your best and longest term allies. 0.92

00:50:40.660 Well, so could this be then that the ADL isn't actually trying to advocate for or fight for Jewish safety or protection, but rather they're experiencing mission creep and they're just blindly and without any bigger picture, just reflexively going after anyone who say Jew bad.

00:51:01.720 and then they just like well if that is the case that there needs to be some institutional jewish 0.63

00:51:07.320 system to punish them as people not even as an organization as individuals like all the donors 0.62

00:51:12.640 to the adl who are jewish need to say hey knock it off this is no no no no that's too hard to do 0.98

00:51:20.400 what you need is an external jewish legal body jews love legal bodies that is meant to hunt down

00:51:27.400 these types of anti-Jewish crimes, e.g. crimes that lead to the Jewish community being less 0.54

00:51:33.440 secure, that are being performed by individuals at organizations like the ADL, and publicly be

00:51:40.040 able to say, this individual is committing these acts, which are demonstrably dangerous to the

00:51:45.840 Jewish community at large. And that they should have faced X, Y, and Z punishment for it to be

00:51:51.860 on good terms with the Jewish community going forwards. Likely fines or something like that. 0.98

00:51:57.000 so let's go over like what the adl said just so you understand how they tried to frame this

00:52:01.360 yeah they framed they said it was anti-semitic to frame some orthodox jewish communities as 0.86

00:52:07.640 welfare addicted addicted welfare addicted but they are like it seems like there are it's well

00:52:13.920 known that many many orthodox jewish communities are kind of like literally built around leveraging

00:52:21.660 welfare systems because they can not i don't blame anyone for like to a certain extent if

00:52:29.160 if the system is that broken where you can exploit it that much then it's yeah i mean

00:52:34.240 jews still pay more into the tax system than they disproportionately take out because there's so 0.95

00:52:39.360 many rich jews so like they're still useful to have around um and they then said that oh using

00:52:45.680 tropes about jewish insularity greed slash money or dual loyalty like go back to israel comments 0.56

00:52:51.180 in the video is but they are they were demonstrably exhibiting greed and dual loyalty in the video

00:52:59.200 and these orthodox jewish communities going back to israel and committing fraud against other jews

00:53:04.140 would demonstrably fix the problem in the united states of this being a legitimate grievance

00:53:10.160 right like these are not that's one of the coolest things about israel you know jews have a place 0.94

00:53:15.120 they can go if they're being a problem now right other jews even have a way to be like okay if this

00:53:19.320 community is becoming too much of a problem in the united states and causing too many issues and we 1.00

00:53:22.680 can relocate them back to israel where at least they're only causing these negative externalities 1.00

00:53:28.000 among other jews if people are wondering why i am so existentially interested and that's what this 0.99

00:53:32.520 video is is me trying my best to come up with a solution to prevent what i see as extreme rates

00:53:39.060 of anti-semitism yeah and i want to highlight just what you pointed out at the very beginning

00:53:42.520 just the proportion of young people today who actively harbor anti-Semitic views because of

00:53:50.820 this stuff that is happening now. And it's only going to get worse. And definitely this is the

00:53:55.920 sign to take action. I get that. By the way, you're looking for other instances. If you're

00:53:59.380 like, well, this is just one case, there's a crazy case. Have you heard about the East Rampo

00:54:03.280 Central School District in Rockland County, New York? That's the one that he, that guy went to

00:54:08.340 is it isn't it this wasn't the one that he got in trouble for this was the one where an ultra

00:54:13.720 orthodox population grew rapidly due to high birth rates and their synagogue had them all vote in the

00:54:20.120 local elections and they ended up even though they were a minority population having control of the

00:54:26.480 local school board and when i say they were a minority the the local school district was 91 to

00:54:31.760 95% Black or Latino and served 9,000 students. They then began to cut all of the extracurricular

00:54:39.300 and athletic activities. They then reduced kindergarten from full day to half day,

00:54:44.520 ended summer school, cut business electives and professional development by 75%.

00:54:49.720 They then tried to sell a school building to a Jewish yeshiva at under the cost of that building.

00:54:56.880 No, that's terrible. That's not a good look. That's not going to make you friends. That's

00:55:02.240 really not going to make you friends. Oh my gosh. This is one of the things where we need to be

00:55:06.940 able to talk about this. Like they're playing within the rules of the system, but part of the

00:55:12.560 way the system works is when somebody is playing within the rules, but being a bad actor, that they

00:55:18.580 are able to be called out by citizen journalists. If elements of the Jewish community attempt to 0.66

00:55:23.620 stop citizen journalism that's happening by the rules yeah existentially bad because now that

00:55:30.260 person is saying to target these individuals you have to go through all of us and all of us means

00:55:37.420 a lot of jews that want nothing to do with this and for those jews the bad actor that they need

00:55:43.360 to target and this is very important and very difficult in the way jews typically react to this

00:55:47.380 is not like the worst actor here the person who is most dangerous to the overall jewish community

00:55:53.220 is not the people doing this fraud it is not the people taking control of the school districts it

00:56:00.440 is not the people selling the school buildings to yeshivas it is the people trying to shut down

00:56:06.700 the system from operating as it's intended to it's the adl the adl is at a a level of magnitude 1.00

00:56:13.380 existentially worse for the jewish community because they are the ones who make this a problem 1.00

00:56:18.540 for every Jew instead of just these Jews. Okay. The case I was talking about earlier of the front 1.00

00:56:26.600 was the case of Philip Eshermorphs, a Miami beach nursing home who did $33 million in fraud.

00:56:35.420 Oh yeah. Really bad. That's impressive. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Okay. How in what? Sorry. Keep going.

00:56:47.100 well i mean if you want to go into it what he did and no trump didn't fully pardon him but he

00:56:52.440 shouldn't have done anything for this guy it's good for the jewish community that this guy faced

00:56:57.160 punishment right um that this guy faced punishment before the somalians did jews could go like look

00:57:03.140 our community isn't receiving special treatment yeah don't then advocate explicitly for special

00:57:08.900 treatment yeah right prosecutors described him as driven by almost unbounded greed so what really

00:57:17.660 got me more than him because again i don't really care what he did he did something bad the citizen 0.74

00:57:22.480 the system caught him like somalians do something bad the system catches him it's when they then try 0.88

00:57:28.200 to say and now you have to arrest every somalian if you want to arrest these somalians that it 0.88

00:57:33.040 becomes existentially unworkable right an alliance with the group becomes existentially unworkable 0.86

00:57:38.200 So specifically what happened is the organization is the Alphen Institute, a Chabad Levitic affiliated 501c3 nonprofit founded in 1981 by Rabbi Shalom Lipsker at the direct action of Lebav Rebbe.

00:57:54.200 Its core mission is to provide religious, spiritual, educational, and advocacy for support for Jewish inmates in the United States, of which there are roughly 85,000.

00:58:04.540 this is really really really bad right if you're an organization that is doing something like this

00:58:11.580 you need to be asking their motto is no one alone no one forgotten right like we don't leave our

00:58:17.860 troops behind we don't let our people face jail time you need to be asking as an organization

00:58:22.380 like before you go after and try to free a guy like this you need to be saying okay but did he

00:58:29.420 actually hurt people did he actually do something bad because if he actually did and i now say 0.73

00:58:36.260 you can't jail any jew unless you jail all jews you now are a much bigger threat to the 0.83

00:58:45.320 wider jewish community than this guy was and again this is about thinking and jews can be like oh 0.99

00:58:52.140 because of our traumas we reflexively attempt to do x y and z i understand that okay 0.94

00:58:59.400 but the problem is is this pattern of behavior and other groups don't do this catholics don't

00:59:07.380 try to get people out of prison just because they're catholics okay i thought when when

00:59:13.960 you described the organization i figured it was like well we'll you know provide you with visitors

00:59:19.860 while you're in jail serving time you know like build community for you or maybe like go in and

00:59:26.060 provide education to people in jail and just do good pr for jews in jail but not like get you out 0.90

00:59:35.460 that that surprises me that that's yeah the core reason that this group did this right or they say 0.68

00:59:41.280 they did this is his father morris esimus an orthodox rabbi and northing home magnate donated

00:59:47.600 $65,000 to Alfay over several years, starting after his indictment, by the way, so only

00:59:55.260 to work on his case. But the family has long supported Chabad causes. And Jared Kushner,

01:00:01.340 who oversaw much of the clemency, has longstanding personal ties within these Chabad networks.

01:00:07.640 Now, Chabad people who I have met have generally been pretty smart and forward thinking. They

01:00:13.800 should have known how this was going to look given how mad the right is right now over somali stuff 1.00

01:00:20.040 they are anyone involved in this an existential threat to the jewish community

01:00:25.560 that they weren't able to think for two seconds how mad is the american right right now about

01:00:31.880 the somali case how are they going to feel about this case 0.77

01:00:37.960 right and they didn't feel that way they didn't have a fear about this because there's no jewish

01:00:42.840 institutional organization or anything that could have come out and been like hey guys

01:00:48.000 do not do this right now this is going to cause real damage to the jewish community

01:00:53.580 what if jewish organizations never felt like they had the to to go into the final thing here which

01:01:00.900 is how jews historically handled this stuff how they should handle this stuff in the future

01:01:05.700 though i do want to ask what if what if jewish organizations like these never thought they had

01:01:12.920 allies on the right a note here when i'm like when i was talking about like jews being like 0.60

01:01:17.520 oh well you know historically we had this stuff and we just don't have it anymore and and you

01:01:25.740 know do trauma sorry would you say stuff like oh trauma in our community like we can't not do it

01:01:31.760 blah blah blah i'm like look i understand it's hard to to create institutions to change your 0.92

01:01:36.920 culture but jews have done it before you can do it again and if you look at the rise and the speed 0.84

01:01:42.960 of the rise of anti-semitism it is existential that you find a way to do it this is not me

01:01:48.300 ragging on the jewish community this is me saying jews are useful allies for many reasons to me and

01:01:53.920 my personal agenda but you're also from the position of populations like this fertility

01:02:00.480 rate was in israel and this phenomenon in the united states and the rise of anti-semitism in

01:02:05.260 the u.s at an existential risk right now if this continues a 25 anti-semitism rate that could be

01:02:14.520 50 60 percent oh yeah and if it continues to rise at this rate in like 20 years like you don't have

01:02:21.000 time to deal with this okay yeah you have people marching through american streets saying from the

01:02:26.240 river to the sea. You need the other side that doesn't mind that stuff still in your camp, okay?

01:02:34.180 Yeah. Now, to note here, you had organizations like the Keliot, organized Jewish councils, 0.79

01:02:40.640 and rabbinical courts, Bit Din, which actively provided and policed economic crimes against 0.68

01:02:46.680 Gentiles. The motivation was practical self-preservation. If you committed fraud against

01:02:51.700 Christians or a Christian government, obviously that could trigger pogroms or expulsions or

01:02:56.220 even collective punishments examples includes so this is how they did it fines or sherman and 0.59

01:03:02.360 shaming repeated or notorious fraud dishonest business practices and counterfeiting or

01:03:06.700 overcharging non-jews could result in monetary fines paid to the victim or the community public 0.99

01:03:12.400 shaming or full sherem a social and religious ban that was devastating no one could do business with

01:03:18.040 you marry your kids etc jewish legal codes and communal records from the period show that this

01:03:23.700 was done precisely to deter action against their group and tell me in medieval enforcement the

01:03:30.080 tel food and later codes e.g maimonides and shall arch record bit din handled cases of theft and

01:03:36.940 fraud from gentiles stealing even trivial amounts from non-jews as a torah level theft in practice

01:03:45.880 communities would impose severely strict penalties on jews who performed even trivial 0.64

01:03:54.520 fraud or misrepresentation against gentiles and they did this not because they wanted to protect 0.64

01:04:01.420 gentiles but because they wanted to protect jews well yeah because i think even at that point did

01:04:07.680 a lot of why malcolm can you not hear me to break down a large part of this had to do with the the

01:04:14.420 jewish shabbatai levy thing and he basically destroyed the jewish community for like a

01:04:19.640 century if you're not in the jewish like judaism almost died like at the end of this period and

01:04:24.700 the rabbinic circles sort of lost a lot of their institutional power and things begin to fall

01:04:29.440 apart and a number of these organizations essentially weren't even able to pay the

01:04:35.040 taxes that they owed to like the government because the government was supposed to be

01:04:38.400 handling stuff from them and so they essentially fell apart and that's that's bad when you still 0.98

01:04:45.600 have jewish organizations who attempt to protect every jew any final thoughts simone i don't think 0.81

01:04:51.080 you can hear me you're muted by the way i'm not muted that's you're muted still i know i'm not

01:04:56.280 muted i'm actually i can't hear anything can't hear anything i know i know anything i think it's

01:05:02.660 unable to unmute it's okay if there's sun in the look i you did i'm not okay still can't hear you

01:05:08.660 it's it's a it's a mic do you think you're unmuted can you hear me i know i can hear you yeah okay

01:05:14.500 come in here and give your final thoughts well i think actually i can be heard i have no idea

01:05:19.860 what you're saying you are completely muted my mic is being picked up in the recording

01:05:34.420 you just can't hear me for whatever reason from your computer so okay i'll just let you talk then

01:05:39.040 yeah i agree with you that this is really important to address and i really hope that

01:05:47.060 something can be done but i feel like maybe things have gotten balkanized to the point where 0.67

01:05:51.620 jewish communities feel like they can't actually control this maybe i'm wrong i think you're wrong 0.74

01:05:59.560 i think from what i've seen jewish communities can adapt they're not stupid they at least realize 0.90

01:06:05.800 the problem of growing anti-semitism and jewish communities cannot control or they can try to but 0.50

01:06:12.660 it's increasingly not working because unfortunately they're using the tools that the wokes adopted and 0.81

01:06:16.900 now the woke tools work in reverse, they cannot control the actions of people outside their 0.77

01:06:23.280 community, especially when they are genuinely becoming a threat to those external communities. 0.77

01:06:28.580 So basically, if a critical mass of influential Jewish leaders recognize that this is an 0.67

01:06:36.380 existential threat to all Jewish communities, and that every time something like this gets 0.81

01:06:41.780 planned threatened whatever pulled that immediately they all collectively descend 0.93

01:06:48.000 upon this person and are like this is not cool undo right now we're gonna cut you some form of

01:06:53.040 actual punishment that is agreed upon wide scale through like inter-rabbinic courts that the and

01:07:00.580 and again the core thing that needs to be punished is not the fraud itself it's the defense of the

01:07:06.320 fraud yeah no i i agree with you and it's it's really bizarre again why was this why was this

01:07:14.700 terminated why did it ever end the court people just got disorganized no no but basically they

01:07:20.360 were too organized to the extent that they were in charge of like tax collection from the jewish

01:07:25.300 people on behalf of the governments that they were part of and some of them got like shut down when

01:07:30.060 they can no longer had the authority to collect those taxes anymore so they basically became

01:07:34.260 too bureaucratic and they broke down okay so yeah basically a new practice has to be getting it and

01:07:41.760 a new precedent and it would be better if it was a lightweight reflexive reaction to defensive bad

01:07:49.160 actors instead of some complicated larger governing body for my for my view then okay wow i mean i

01:07:57.460 didn't know how egregious some of those cases were and i fully welcome anyone i mean i think

01:08:04.020 that many cases of welfare fraud could be construed as like white cat hacking they're

01:08:09.340 hacking the system they're showing vulnerability and the key thing to make it white hat is when

01:08:15.220 the vulnerability is exposed the vulnerability gets fixed you caught me we're good cat and mouse

01:08:21.100 game continues but like the whole point of a cat and mouse game is it when the cat finds a mouse

01:08:26.180 cat eats mouse mouse yeah yeah you don't then say as the mouse you have to eat all the mice

01:08:31.520 if you want to eat this one mouse because now you are a problem for all mice

01:08:35.920 well i feel like the metaphor falls falls apart at that point i i see what you're saying

01:08:42.500 yeah yeah i i think that maybe you know as much as we didn't really talk about it

01:08:48.300 this issue also extends to the somali community i think that for example ilman ohar i'm sorry

01:08:53.560 ilman ilhan omar yeah it was a huge problem for the somali community but i don't because like

01:08:58.800 they need to be like we we disavow this this is disgusting but like i think this this but your

01:09:04.520 advice applies to all communities you know any community that's like yeah i mean obviously it 0.77

01:09:09.780 is a somali community that the the somalians who defend the obvious somalian fraudsters

01:09:15.040 need to be punished more like as a cultural strategy for survival more than the fraudsters 0.73

01:09:21.300 themselves that yeah because the monsters it's easy to like write off anyone who did bad thing

01:09:26.880 and and be rid of them but the ones who tried to defend that are the ones that put everyone at risk

01:09:32.000 yeah yes i guess it's not too dissimilar from the covenant of the sons of men the ai alignment

01:09:38.800 proposition you present which is basically we attack anything that becomes an existential threat

01:09:43.860 to all of our ability to be free to exist and this is a micro version of it when you see someone is

01:09:52.420 posing an existential threat all bets are off we drop what we're doing we stop them and then we can

01:09:58.520 move forward once that threat has been dealt with and that's what you're seeing here and that's why

01:10:02.880 you pay so much attention to it because you are uniquely attuned to existential threats arising

01:10:08.640 and now you see it arising like you didn't care about it when it was Somalians because what 0.95

01:10:12.460 investment do we have in that community but when you see this happening with i don't care what 0.92

01:10:16.180 happens to the simoleons like simoleons we don't have an association we have no investment we have

01:10:20.320 no like interest we don't feel like they're going to take to the stars and and you know whatever

01:10:25.920 they don't seem to be very involved with anyone who's not their own community they're not culturally

01:10:31.760 aligned with me i have no cultural similarities to them i have a lot of cultural similarities to

01:10:35.880 jews like obviously i and and jews produce a lot of technology and economic benefits for the united

01:10:41.680 states and have a lot of military strengths which is useful for our future plans if we stay allies 0.98

01:10:45.900 yeah i get it but the so like obviously i care what happens to the jews somalians are doing this 0.98

01:10:51.940 too but like i just said i'm like okay well then get rid of all the somalians right like if they're 0.84

01:10:56.520 if they're going to defend this like and and at the rates that they're doing it at like this but 0.67

01:11:02.180 it's a little different from the smallest there's the somalians it looks like within some somalian

01:11:05.980 communities it is the majority of the somalian it was something like 65 were on welfare or something

01:11:11.420 like that within jewish communities it is actually an extreme minority that are these

01:11:17.080 types of i disagree i disagree because they're like some cities where the entire way of life

01:11:21.980 is built upon this kind of economic system so you're wrong about that i think it may be even

01:11:28.620 worse in some of these in some of these cities where because like literally the entire economy

01:11:33.200 runs off of those dynamics which is why i was like maybe this is an issue like we can't you

01:11:40.220 can't be like well knock it off guys because it's literally like like what what do you want them to

01:11:45.660 do like they literally will do this to the death i guess because like they have no other way of

01:11:50.900 making money now they all have like nine kids what are you gonna do like right but i mean we we we've

01:11:58.020 we've and i and i point out here when a jews who's watching this is like what do you mean your people 0.68

01:12:02.960 just go out and shoot someone when they're one of your own people and they're screwing people over

01:12:07.040 what about the healthcare CEO? That was a white guy, right? Like he, he, the guy who shot him 1.00

01:12:12.000 was a white guy. That's the American way, right? Like the people know in our video, I was not 0.97

01:12:16.540 against that. I was like, yeah, you, this guy's applying. Yeah. I guess that's, that's a very

01:12:21.600 salient example of that form of justice. Yeah. That was at least, I don't know. It was an,

01:12:29.880 an Italian right kid. And then, uh, I don't know what the United healthcare adopted American 0.93

01:12:35.960 culture right you know i think that this this the the when somebody from our community is effing over

01:12:43.380 our community and outsiders deal with it i guess we could say that that their shared culture was

01:12:51.800 relatively affluent educated american yeah the guy who did it was a affluent educated wealthy like

01:12:59.720 kid who went to like boarding school and stuff like that as far as i remember

01:13:03.460 like same basic cultural group but it was that group policing itself

01:13:09.060 well and the future is going to be self-policing because government-based policing is not going to

01:13:15.920 well and yeah and and because groups that don't police themselves everyone is going to hate them

01:13:20.220 right like as people begin to see people more as groups right like as your individual identity of

01:13:27.200 your community gets larger people are going to like i will say right now within the techno puritan

01:13:32.860 community that is how we should police as extremely aggressively as possible and it's not just about

01:13:38.200 policing it's also about your reputation as a culture and as we'll say possibly even like a

01:13:44.720 techno fiefdom right like in the future let's say if many mainstream governments fall apart

01:13:49.440 different contingents and groups are going to like venetian city-states trade with each other

01:13:55.460 engage in business with each other or not like isolate each other from each other and if your

01:14:00.240 community builds a reputation for exploitation um you will not be able to do trade like everyone's 0.84

01:14:07.640 going to want to work with the mormons everyone dunks on the mormons but they're all going to 0.94

01:14:10.500 want to work with them yeah that's a good point and i think the problem with building reputations

01:14:16.600 like these is people are in the future when everyone just runs off of cultural stereotypes 0.57

01:14:22.360 and reputations be like well i'm not going to work with the jews whereas in the past when you 0.89

01:14:25.840 there was this policing system that you described it was like well sure i go to the jews to get 0.97

01:14:29.740 like money lending services and these other things, because they're trustworthy for that.

01:14:34.460 They self-police, like I can, I can predict that they will provide the service as, as expected.

01:14:39.660 And I think that that's the thing is you have to think about what cultural stereotypes you are

01:14:44.320 going to cultivate for your group in a post world police environment, because that's what we're

01:14:51.520 entering with demographic collapse, right? Exactly. And it can be done. That's, that's the

01:14:56.580 other thing just throwing up your hands and being like no jews could never fix this problem you used 1.00

01:15:01.560 to self-police you used to have institutional solutions well and and they this was when they 0.88

01:15:07.040 operated in a system of no world yeah different groups needing to interact with each other and

01:15:15.400 trade with each other and and and yeah interact in a low trust environment we're entering a very

01:15:20.400 low trust future meaning that you need to cultivate high trust and if you defend bad actors that's

01:15:26.540 destroying it so i now i get the bigger picture even more and i appreciate you covering this even

01:15:31.280 though we're totally getting in trouble for this yeah well because it's it there there are the bad

01:15:38.180 actors out there and they are pervasive within jewish communities but we are signaling this 0.87

01:15:43.720 not because we want to hurt these communities but because we're trying to shock them into like you

01:15:50.400 you actually if somebody as filio-semitic as me is like this is actually a problem guys

01:15:56.860 then it's actually a problem yeah and and it's not like a problem that like you can scratch

01:16:02.680 your chin about and be like that's a very interesting problem it's like if you care

01:16:06.760 about the future of the jewish people you care about finding a solution to this problem yeah 0.97

01:16:10.700 well i'm gonna go get the kids and make dinner and what am i doing if we were made your burmese 0.99

01:16:17.600 mint chicken um burmese mint chicken if ever we were criticized for being the weird husband and

01:16:24.500 wife who speak to each other in different rooms it's just highlighted now by the fact that we're

01:16:28.620 like i'm talking on a phone hello oh my god i don't work out your mic because it's not a my

01:16:39.140 mic problem it's clearly a streamyard problem because streamyard's picking up my mic fine

01:16:42.580 i see that streamyard's picking up your mic and do you see that it's picking up my mic

01:16:47.180 because it is no the green dots be moving we'll figure out i love you so much simone i love you 1.00

01:16:54.520 you're amazing and i actually would not at all be surprised given the number of chabad because that 1.00

01:17:01.460 seems to be the organization that would be best able to fix this jews that watch our show that 1.00

01:17:06.820 one of them is going to be like yeah reviving one of those institutions is probably a pretty good 1.00

01:17:11.380 idea like let's get on that because you know if you if you bring that idea to the right people

01:17:17.460 with the right packaging and you're able to set something like that up that's also a path to power

01:17:23.380 for you an institutional power for you right like it's it's not a bad play it's not like a cross

01:17:29.320 that you have to die on it's a very useful thing to set up i know it's just you know politicking

01:17:36.500 be politic-y it's not that easy but this is an existential threat to your point so i get it

01:17:42.160 yeah the kids are being all right love you suspiciously quiet so all right bye

01:17:47.640 i cannot i still don't i can't get over torsten seeing wannabe by the spice girls a music video

01:18:02.520 of it like you know the og music video and then coming up to me and being like mommy this is a

01:18:08.040 song about friendship he said that yeah this is a song about friendship about friendship if you

01:18:15.420 want to be my lover you gotta get with my friends yeah which is also like it really is a song about

01:18:20.620 friendship it's true it is a song about friendship yeah no one is gonna meet that that's that

01:18:26.920 specification for what's funny is is that it is still true for like progressive culture like you 0.96

01:18:34.360 want to have sex with someone you got to have sex with their friends like that's the way 0.98

01:18:37.200 those communities work these days oh god yeah if you get the poly read of wannabe they're all 0.99

01:18:42.600 they're all poly if you want to be no that's like that's like the dallas poly community that we knew 1.00

01:18:49.280 where it's just like matriarchy where they would switch out studs she's talking about this was

01:18:54.060 really interesting so like as simone and i had mentioned like earlier when we were more progressive

01:18:59.400 we were like technically open to sleeping with other people we just didn't really indulge in it

01:19:03.860 but we like hung out with these communities and so we were very familiar with the various poly

01:19:08.520 communities in the areas where we lived some of those fun people like typically if you meet

01:19:13.780 someone who's poly they're probably also pretty smart and doing some interesting work i don't know

01:19:20.160 I mean, this is the ones who we met who were like that. Keep in mind that we sort of filter who we meet and it depends on the area. The poly people I've met in like San Francisco and like Portland and stuff, they've all like total burnouts, a lot of them.

01:19:33.180 I don't know. As far as I know, the people I know in the Bay Area who are poly are some of the smartest and highest achieving people.

01:19:40.020 so so i also know some smart ones and stuff like that but they're not on the typical poly dating

01:19:44.880 scene whereas the poly dating scene in dallas was actually more like smart high agency people

01:19:49.960 with really good jobs yeah but it was incredibly interesting because it was basically run by a 1.00

01:19:56.080 cabal of very attractive women who just controlled who was invited to the parties who got to do what 1.00

01:20:03.420 who you know and they would just like and and i think that that's one of the reason why so high 1.00

01:20:10.160 high status because these women they approached it very much with sort of like a backwoods because 1.00

01:20:16.200 you know texas is part of specifically dallas is often seen as the capital of the greater 0.97

01:20:20.200 appalachian region even though it's not in the appalachians because it's the largest city and

01:20:24.080 economic hub that's in that cultural region and they approached it very sort of ruthlessly and 0.82

01:20:30.420 economically which is really interesting where they're like well we're hot women we can control 1.00

01:20:36.240 access to sex if other hot women decide to become poly in the dallas area they basically join our 1.00

01:20:41.720 cabal and we will use this cabal to ensure that only really competent successful and attractive 0.68

01:20:48.320 guys are sleeping with anyone in the poly space well actually that's that's a really good point

01:20:53.640 is all the guys we met that were in that space were very pro-social whereas you often get a lot

01:20:59.280 of bad actor dudes not not universally obviously but there are more bad actor dudes in other poly

01:21:05.580 circles who are just exploitative and messed up and like manipulative and these guys were just like

01:21:10.520 just kind because the dynamics are entirely different you look at the poly scene in in

01:21:15.380 san francisco and it's like super toxic because it's basically a bunch of like effective altruists

01:21:20.860 watch our episode on the ea to whore pipeline who attempt to groom young women who first enter the

01:21:26.960 movement was like logic like well if it gives me pleasure and it gives you pleasure how could it be

01:21:32.040 wrong right and it begins to look cool to these young women and they get into it and then older 0.94

01:21:37.520 women in the space come up to them and they're like hey i think this guy is using you and then

01:21:42.140 they're like oh this older woman's just trying to make guard you know like and because that's what 0.93

01:21:46.220 the guys will say or something they won't listen yeah even when they try to protect each other the

01:21:50.420 guys have moved up in this community through some other means like they've gotten high level

01:21:55.160 positions and like that's some effective altruist org so it's hard to kick them out or something

01:21:58.340 like that and so it creates this dynamic where you get bad actors all over the place and because

01:22:03.300 the community isn't ruthless about expelling people in the dallas scene if a guy tried to

01:22:09.960 say because most of the guys in the dallas scene are like finance bros and stuff like that tried

01:22:14.340 to say something like oh well she's just mate guarding this you know attractive woman who's 1.00

01:22:20.680 higher status than you in the community telling you not to get with me that woman would then be

01:22:24.580 like okay now you guy who just said that like it goes through the whisper network really fast

01:22:28.900 you're not invited it was kind of like the bachelor you know you get handed or something

01:22:33.220 yeah and everyone knows not to engage with you so it's weird but in this one scenario like

01:22:37.720 matriarchy seems to keep the entire system stable yeah that was so cool it was so weird

01:22:42.560 in hypergamy keeping a system stable in a non-traditional structure okay whatever yeah

01:22:49.240 that was fascinating i wonder if it's still stable or if it's basically collapsed at this

01:22:52.900 point I know I know well some of the people in it that that I we had known had moved away you know

01:22:59.080 moved to other cities gone on to become parents and stuff so I doubt that they're still that

01:23:04.980 involved in it but yeah I don't know and I think I got the impression when we were hanging in that

01:23:11.800 circle too that there were a lot of really new entrants who were just young and kind of having

01:23:15.620 that experience for a while and you kind of get through it like maybe for some people being poly

01:23:22.060 is this postgraduate equivalent

01:23:23.920 of being briefly lesbian in college

01:23:26.300 you know and then you kind of

01:23:28.020 get it out of your system and move on

01:23:30.280 and enter committed relationships

01:23:32.460 I don't know

01:23:33.680 hold on I need to ask a question

01:23:36.420 you can keep talking

01:23:37.940 I also

01:23:40.420 love watching our kids dance

01:23:42.240 to Gangnam Style

01:23:43.460 that is just god tier

01:23:46.300 entertainment

01:23:47.060 so good

01:23:48.740 but yeah

01:23:50.980 trying to think if there's anything that i haven't told you yet about my

01:23:56.680 trip to austin i do have to say i really like the network of people there you know like i wish i

01:24:05.200 could just tap into that social network all the time that and like hang around light haven in

01:24:14.120 berkeley i think it would be lovely but i don't want to fly out to these places and i don't want

01:24:20.360 to live in either of those places so this is the price we pay it's just us and the chickens over

01:24:26.120 here and that's okay all right we're just about to head back from austin where we filmed a round

01:24:35.200 table uh with chris williamson and two other demographers limestone and well documentarian

01:24:42.440 stephen shaw and i can't wait to get back and get home to the kids it was good to be in austin

01:24:49.960 but I really like our home in Valley Forge it's pretty great there and travel

01:24:58.840 just isn't as fun as it used to be I don't know the appeal has worn off so I'm

01:25:05.560 glad I was able to make it out I'm glad I was able to do it all for one

01:25:08.200 backpack for the the two of us because you've got a lot of stuff all the

01:25:14.620 formula all the diapers there's a lot there um and the elevator in our hotel broke this morning

01:25:21.920 so there was hauling this car seat down 11 floors which was not my favorite moment

01:25:29.580 yeah it was not the best but that's over and the round table which was supposed to go

01:25:39.780 for two hours I think went for four so hopefully that means it went well who knows but uh it was

01:25:49.660 really really fun to have that conversation um and I love that we get to do work that has us

01:25:54.260 talking with really interesting fun people and that yields opportunities like these um because

01:26:00.060 it's uh it's a perk it's it's not comfortable but it's interesting

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Based Camp - April 27, 2026

The Jewish Social Technology That (Used To) Mitigate Antisemitism Was Inverted

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