Based Camp - ＂The March to Gaza＂ Woke Imperialism： A Detailed Retrospective

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today.

00:00:03.540 Today, we are going to be talking about the infamous March to Gaza.

00:00:08.780 No.

00:00:09.460 That so many hilarious videos have come out on of like these woke people being whipped by like Egyptian children.

00:00:17.520 God understanding, make these like impassioned pleas to like Egyptian like police like.

00:00:23.600 You have a choice, you're humans. We're here for humanity.

00:00:27.740 You are part of humanity. You are my brother.

00:00:57.740 Help your Islamic brothers. Yeah.

00:01:04.040 Yes. And the narrative that has come out on the right is these people just don't understand the sentiment in Egypt.

00:01:10.260 These people just don't understand, you know, like they assume a sort of pan Muslim, you know, identity.

00:01:16.020 Identity. Identity. And because of this, because of this narrow progressive understanding, they did this incredibly foolish thing where they thought they were going to get all the way to Gaza.

00:01:24.920 And obviously, that was never a possibility.

00:01:26.880 It seems like they did no coordination with the Egyptian government because most of the resistance seems to be indeed led by police and government.

00:01:34.620 Yeah. So we're going to come at this with a this is one of those instances where if you're in a right wing media bubble, you are being misinformed about what actually happened.

00:01:47.200 I'm not going to say that it doesn't make them look stupid, but they did, for example, coordinate with the Egyptian government or at least when the Egyptian government didn't get back to them.

00:01:55.220 They didn't tell them all this.

00:01:56.120 Oh, OK. Then it doesn't count.

00:01:59.340 They basically laid an ambush for them.

00:02:01.240 They should have known that this ambush would be laid and we'll get to why they should have known this.

00:02:05.640 Mostly it has to do with the number of governments that have been destabilized by allowing Gazans to come in.

00:02:11.820 The time that Hamas blew up the wall between Egypt and Gaza and like half a million to a million people flooded into Egypt and caused major disruptions and murder waves and stuff like this.

00:02:23.000 The people of Gaza are very murdery.

00:02:24.780 You know, whenever a country takes them in, it's usually a few years before mass deaths start.

00:02:31.240 If you're wondering why they so persistently end up revolting against the countries that took them in and housed them and gave them aid and trying to kill their leadership or trying to kill other people within the country.

00:02:41.880 A lot of this and I want to point out, I say this without judgment, has to do with how they contextualize the concept of death.

00:02:48.040 And I say I say this without judgment because within my own family and culture, we have a unique contextualization of deaths.

00:02:52.720 You know, we believe that you're not supposed to overly indulge in it.

00:02:55.900 You're not supposed to let it emotionally affect you.

00:02:58.180 And so, you know, I've got to be accepting of how other people are deviant in how they contextualize something like death while also accepting the practical implications of these differences.

00:03:07.680 Specifically, the people of Gaza, as you'll see in this video here of this mother, her two of her kids just died and she is cheering and looks like it's the happiest she's been in her entire life.

00:03:19.700 And she's got a bunch of other women, some of whom presumably had kids who died as well, who are also very excited.

00:03:24.400 She's talking about how she's hoping that her grandkids also die soon.

00:03:28.620 And the reason is, is because she believes that if in a war against, you know, whether it's Jews or Muslims who believe something a little different from them, if they get killed in one of these wars, it's an auto pass to heaven.

00:03:40.300 And because of that, it is the most desirable life path.

00:03:44.720 So if they settle down in a country and find peace and stability, and yet this part of their culture isn't eradicated, they have a strong motivation to create revolutions just due to their culture.

00:03:58.560 And you can say, well, then we should eradicate their culture.

00:04:00.780 And it's like, well, then one, that's cultural genocide.

00:04:03.100 And two, what does that even look like?

00:04:05.000 Like, are you saying you want to separate the kids from the parents and then raise them in, like, separate boarding schools so they don't build this concept?

00:04:11.120 Like, it's not like the concept is out of line with their religious beliefs.

00:04:14.860 While many Muslims don't relate to death this way, this isn't the only region of the world where Muslims relate to death this way.

00:04:20.580 They're just more extreme than any other Muslim group.

00:04:24.220 And so I think to say that, like, we have the right to erase this is wrong.

00:04:28.000 But I also think it's understandable why other countries do not want to take them in and why they keep revolting and refusing common sense peace deals when Israel offers it to them, because that's not what they want.

00:04:40.680 What they want is war and the opportunity to die.

00:04:58.000 What they want is war and the love of genocide.

00:05:03.620 I look forward.

00:05:32.980 also helps explain when people are like, how is Hamas, you know, getting people to give them their

00:05:37.040 babies to like put it potential sites where they're going to be mistled. And if you see this woman and

00:05:42.360 how she's like, oh, I can't wait till my grandbabies die. You would see how was in a portion of the

00:05:48.180 population. And I'm noticing here, I'm not saying everyone in a population is like this. You don't

00:05:51.540 need everyone in a population to have this perspective. If you have, you know, 3% of the

00:05:55.600 population has this perspective, that's enough to almost inevitably lead to a revolt. So here you

00:06:00.120 might be saying, okay, well, almost every time they're taken into a Jewish majority country or

00:06:04.780 a Muslim majority country, they start trying to kill people. Why don't we just take them into

00:06:08.780 Western countries, right? Well, Denmark attempted that. In 1992, they took in 321 individuals,

00:06:17.340 204 of the 321 refugees, 64% had been convicted of a crime by 2019. And that's defined as serving

00:06:26.880 serious fine or jail time and excluded traffic violations. Descendants. Okay. So you can be like,

00:06:33.400 okay, well, this is just the first generation. Well, no, it's not. Of the next generation, 34%

00:06:39.140 who were born in Denmark also had been convicted of a crime by 2019. And keep in mind, like that's

00:06:47.160 including the ones who are too young to have committed a crime. I would note here when you're

00:06:52.300 contrasting this 64% conviction rate, if you look at only men in Denmark, the conviction rate is only

00:06:59.040 2%. And that's if you're looking at the highest crime demographic, 15 to 64. And then if you're

00:07:04.360 like, okay, well, at least they're not an enormous strain on the state. Well, it turned out that by

00:07:09.180 2011, 82% of the group was on some form of public support. So essentially, even intergenerationally,

00:07:16.980 they just become parasites of the state. In terms of employment, if you search for immigrants by

00:07:23.180 Lebanon, which is often where the Palestinian immigrants were categorized. So keep in mind,

00:07:27.340 this isn't like as concentrated a sample set. In Denmark, only 43% of the men and 23% of the women

00:07:32.760 aged 30 to 60 were employed. So less than even 50% of the men and almost none of the women. And if you

00:07:38.940 want to come to me to be like, well, are you saying that they can't change or they can't improve? And I'm

00:07:43.640 not saying that. All I'm saying is the stats. When they've gone to these countries, they started

00:07:48.740 killing people. When they've gone to these countries, they've become an enormous drain on

00:07:52.700 state resources. So first, when people say Gazans are poor and live in poverty because Israel is doing

00:07:59.880 all these horrible things to them, I'd point out that even in environments like Denmark, we see the

00:08:05.780 same thing and we see similar behavioral patterns. Press F to doubt. Also, I'm not saying this is in their

00:08:12.580 nature. I'm not saying this is, you know, an inevitability of who they are. I'm saying this is what has

00:08:18.900 happened every time. And with that history, I'm not going to sit here and pressure other states to take a

00:08:24.840 population that has repeatedly victimized the populations of states that have done kindnesses to them in the

00:08:31.240 past.

00:08:31.580 But it helps understand why, while the people across the Middle East support, you know, the quote-unquote

00:08:39.320 like Palestinian cause, governments across the Middle East want nothing to do with these populations and

00:08:45.180 are actually quite terrified of them. And view, I'd be like, I have a lot of friends who are like, I'd call

00:08:52.040 them, I guess you could say like elitist or power player, like Muslim types in like Middle Eastern

00:08:57.900 environments. And behind closed doors, the general vibe or conversation is Israel's doing the world a

00:09:06.020 favor right now. And they want the most extreme outcome to be the outcome that happens. And they

00:09:14.220 are trying to pressure Israel actually into a position where that's what ends up happening.

00:09:19.160 Without it looking like that, that's what they're doing to their people. Because, no, keep in mind,

00:09:24.020 like Gossams have tried to assassinate like multiple heads of state in the past. Like if you're a head

00:09:30.800 of state in the Middle East, this is like a band of like aditores and assassins from your perspective.

00:09:37.560 And so you want to play both sides while geopolitically doing what you can to achieve a certain

00:09:42.720 outcome. So one is understanding why this happened, understanding what the protesters understood and

00:09:47.280 what they didn't understand. Because it's clear they didn't understand this. They didn't understand

00:09:50.220 how much and why the Egyptian government was just not even going to begin to allow them to protest.

00:09:56.780 But another thing that we often get wrong is this was not even a majority Western or woke audience.

00:10:01.980 The caravan actually had multiple factions, with some of them coming from Islamic majority countries

00:10:08.520 like Tunisia.

00:10:09.440 Yeah. Yes, right. What was with this? I saw that there was this big Tunisian contingent, but why?

00:10:15.800 Hmm? They never got out of Tunisia, by the way. And we'll get into why that happened as well.

00:10:21.240 Oh, before I get further, we've also got to talk about like the hypocrisy of all of this.

00:10:25.240 For example, a leading figure in this who we'll see throughout this is an Irish politician who is

00:10:30.340 gay and has a husband and removed all of that and the pride flags from his social media before going

00:10:35.560 to Egypt, which I think sort of shows this understanding that he's fighting for people

00:10:41.320 who would have him killed and imprisoned. Well, this is, this is something that I do want to

00:10:45.620 explore too, though, that, I mean, we're talking about over 4,000 activists from more than 80

00:10:50.720 countries. And, you know, these, this is, it's a lot, you know, people are flying from between five

00:10:58.540 hours to over 20 hours to get to this. They're spending a lot of money to do this. It's hard to

00:11:03.980 get anyone to come out and do something. Yeah. And they ended up getting like left in the hot sun to get

00:11:09.060 terrible sunburns. We have just been violently dragged into the buses here at the first

00:11:14.100 checkpoints. I think they, you know, most of them weren't shocked by this. They kind of expected to

00:11:20.060 be met with resistance. And that was part of the, like, no, they expected to be met with U.S. or

00:11:25.740 U.K. style resistance, not Egyptian style resistance. Okay. Fair, fair, fair on that. But they knew the

00:11:31.660 risks. I still think it's really notable that in an, an age of more ennui than I think we've had

00:11:39.020 before, this many people are putting this much on the line, even if just their money and time

00:11:45.000 to come out and engage in this. And they know that it wasn't going to be comfortable. They're

00:11:49.100 coming out with, you know, these backpacks and like really expecting to, you know, do a

00:11:52.540 No, but they, they're also coming out with their phones for selfies and to talk on social media.

00:11:57.220 Yeah. I mean, yes, there, there is clout chasing. Absolutely. But again, we're still

00:12:01.500 talking 4,000 people. Simone, this is, this is the Riviera of clout chasing. This is the

00:12:06.780 Gaza border. Okay. Was this the fire festival of protests? This would, no, this was a fire

00:12:14.040 festival of clout chasing. That is exactly what this was. And that's what makes it so

00:12:18.020 interesting. Oh God. All right. Pro-Palestinian activists rally in Tunisia before departing for

00:12:25.260 Egypt as part of the global March to Gaza convoy, June, 2025. Their shorts read all eyes on Rafa

00:12:32.640 highlighting the goal of opening Gaza's Rafa border in early 2025. Israelis war on Gaza

00:12:40.580 intensified and a full blockade starved the enclave. International activists organized a

00:12:46.360 global March on Gaza. Their aim was to pressure world leaders to end what they described as a

00:12:52.660 quote unquote, genocidal siege. The plan was unprecedented in scale. Thousands of people

00:12:57.720 from dozens of countries would converge in Egypt to march on the Rafa crossing on Gaza's border to

00:13:02.740 demand the entry of humanitarian aid. The initiative was spearheaded by groups across the ideological

00:13:09.960 spectrum from woke Western peace activists to Arab civil society groups. A coalition of Tunisian

00:13:16.840 organizations, including the country's labor union and human rights league led a caravan called the

00:13:22.580 Samad convoy, which deported Tunisia on June 9th, 2025, picking up supporters in Algeria and Libya.

00:13:30.560 In parallel, grassroots networks like the Palestinian youth movement, Code Pink, and Jewish voice from

00:13:36.720 labor helped rally around 4,000 foreign activists from 50 to 80 countries to fly into Cairo by June 12th.

00:13:44.200 You know, I love the Jews who, you know, whine about this stuff and almost none of them are above

00:13:48.720 replacement. You're not really Jew. Like, you don't have an invested interest in the future of the Jewish

00:13:52.440 people if you and your kids are not above replacement rate, you know. And so it's really just sort of this

00:13:57.740 ultimate, I think, betrayal of Jewish identity to, you know, put the actual Jewish people who will continue

00:14:03.840 to exist in the future. It's such a threat. Goals and expectations. Organizers made clear their protest was

00:14:10.400 symbolic. They did not truly expect to walk into Gaza. I will note here, some protesters believe that.

00:14:15.700 Other protesters clearly thought they were going to get into Gaza, see the above section given the

00:14:21.520 fortified border. And I'll put a picture of how fortified the border is here. It is comical to

00:14:26.380 think they would ever get through if they had looked at pictures of this. I mean, I guess they

00:14:30.120 thought that they just politically pressure them. But again, they thought that they were dealing with

00:14:35.880 like LA anti-rioters. I don't even think they thought they were dealing with that. They thought that

00:14:41.020 they were dealing with like partially sympathetic, like Muslim police or something. These people

00:14:45.620 had no sympathy. Some of them had their, you know. Well, even if they did, I think they're much

00:14:49.680 more concerned about taking care of their families and job security than they are about. Oh, well,

00:14:55.240 this foreigner who's screaming at me in English and a translator is now also trying to scream at me.

00:15:01.340 They've convinced me I will put my family on the line and lose my job.

00:15:05.580 Started with explanations of why this time wouldn't be like the time when Hamas blew up the wall and the

00:15:10.700 country was flooded by Gazans and a bunch of people died. Or the time the Gazans tried to start a

00:15:14.880 revolt or the time the Gazans, you know, started killing. Yeah, like, or the time. We'll get into

00:15:20.060 all of that in a second. But like, they didn't even like address the point that whenever this

00:15:25.400 has happened in the past, Gazans start killing people in other Muslim majority countries.

00:15:30.300 Some even described it as standing on the right side of history by bearing witness to Gaza's

00:15:35.060 suffering. The marchers plan to travel by bus from Cairo to Sinai, city of Al-Aresh,

00:15:40.600 then undertake a roughly 50 kilometer, three-day march on foot to the Rahaf crossing,

00:15:45.780 camping near the border before returning to Cairo on June 19th. Crucially, organizers sought advanced

00:15:51.120 permission from Egypt. They say they applied to the Egyptian embassies weeks beforehand,

00:15:55.420 hoping the government would quietly tolerate the protests. So the government never replied,

00:15:59.000 and that's why they thought they might quietly tolerate them.

00:16:01.160 Hmm. In public comments, the group emphasized that the march would be peaceful and humanitarian,

00:16:08.040 focused solely on opening aid corridors, not on any unlawful entry. That was never going to happen

00:16:14.300 if you understood the geopolitics of the region. Despite these intentions, many observers question

00:16:18.240 the marchers' realism. Egypt classifies the Rahaf border zone in North Sinai as a restricted military

00:16:25.120 area, off-limits to outsiders without special permit. The other border is fortified with concrete walls,

00:16:30.420 barred with wire, and heavily armed checkpoints. And if you're like, Egypt can't really be that

00:16:37.300 afraid of the Gazan people. Like, they can't really view them as like insane monsters who just randomly

00:16:43.380 murder anyone who they live next to. Look at the size of this wall. Look at, no, look at, look at the

00:16:50.080 number of layers, and look at the size of this wall. This isn't like the Berlin Wall. This is people who are

00:16:58.100 terrified of what's, this is attack on Titan stuff, okay? That is what the Egyptians put up

00:17:05.940 out of fear of what you see as starving, harmless children or something on the other side.

00:17:13.060 Not to say that there are not starving, harmless children on the other side, which makes me all the

00:17:17.220 more angry about what Hamas does. Right. But the point being here is if you're ever like, come on, other

00:17:25.220 Muslim countries aren't actually that terrified of the Gazans. They don't actually see them as that different

00:17:31.380 from other Muslim populations, do they? Look at the size of these walls. Look at the security measures. Look at the

00:17:38.500 number of troops on this border. This is not like us where we're like, we would really prefer that fewer Mexicans come

00:17:45.040 in taking our jobs. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is like, you're trying to keep out like an,

00:17:51.520 like, this is like the, the wall from like Game of Thrones. This is like, there is something truly

00:17:58.480 terrifying on the other side of this wall from the perspective of the Egyptian government.

00:18:03.080 I point this out because Egypt, because Egypt isn't exactly a country with tons of money to spare.

00:18:07.520 This is a very honest signal of just how threatening in terms of their defense budget,

00:18:12.860 the Egyptian government found the Gazan people. To give you more context here, here is the

00:18:19.820 Tyrannosaurus enclosure from Jurassic Park. And here is the wall between Gaza and Egypt.

00:18:27.540 Now, by the way, they weren't trying to bring in Gazas to, sorry, they weren't trying to bring in-

00:18:33.220 Yes, they were trying to open the border.

00:18:34.500 To bring in aid. To bring in aid.

00:18:37.380 Like, if you look at the majority of the Egyptian population, for the way, and we'll get to this in a

00:18:41.280 second, they actually support Gaza. Egypt, out of all Arab countries, if you're looking at the

00:18:44.700 base population, they wanted the highest supports for the Palestinian people. It'd be a win for the

00:18:49.040 government to give them aid. The government is intentionally not giving them aid. You need to

00:18:54.000 ask, when you see walls this big, and you see a government risking this level of disruption from

00:19:01.200 its own people, a government that has no love for Israel, what are they trying to do to whatever's on

00:19:07.520 the other side of that wall? Like, what is the goal of the Egyptian government, and why?

00:19:15.600 And I think that this is something that other people just, like, aren't asking. They're like,

00:19:19.960 oh, they just don't care, or they're just playing it safe, or they just, no, they have an intention.

00:19:25.860 Or it's that they genuinely believe that they'll get through. But I think it might be, as I've said

00:19:29.140 before, that they have an intention, from what I know from, you know, Muslim, you know,

00:19:33.600 elite-level sort of Muslim people who I've talked with about this, and their perceptions on, for the

00:19:41.220 region, the best in-state for this conflict. So are you saying that the genocide call is not coming

00:19:47.360 from Israel so much as it's coming from, like, all neighboring countries? Yes. Oh, God. The

00:19:54.160 leadership of all neighboring countries. Right. Yeah, not necessarily the people, because

00:19:58.160 I mean, like, for example, like, their, their king had Gazans try to assassinate him. You think

00:20:05.380 he doesn't have, like, worry about that? Yeah, like, maybe some concern. And we'll go into,

00:20:11.900 like, all the neighboring countries, but the leaders of neighboring countries have either been

00:20:14.720 killed or tried to be killed by Gazan rebellions. They're not doing this out of nowhere. It's not out

00:20:21.060 of, like, hatred for the Gazans. It's out of what's happened before. And so these giant fences,

00:20:27.160 this terror that, that apparently Egypt has around this is not, and I would say it's not

00:20:32.840 unwarranted. I, I might have distaste for the way that they're forcing Israel into this position.

00:20:39.180 And I, and obviously Iran is the one who instigated all of this, right? You know, by,

00:20:43.280 by funding this, by funding Hamas, by training them, by, well, them and, what was it? Qatar.

00:20:49.320 We have our video on how Qatar is actually the biggest, like, dollar funder for Hamas,

00:20:53.320 and also the biggest dollar funder for our university system out in terms of foreign

00:20:58.440 institutions. If you, have you ever asked yourself why Claudine Gay said the thing she said about Jews,

00:21:05.620 she's the one who runs Harvard, that she wasn't sure if it was a human rights violation for people

00:21:10.140 to say that the Jews needed to be eradicated. See, that seems like a controversial saying to say

00:21:15.160 to Congress. Is there somebody she might've been trying to appease more than Congress?

00:21:19.620 Oh, her number one donor? Good job, because it's also Hamas's!

00:21:25.740 Oh, goodness gracious.

00:21:27.000 But anyway.

00:21:29.740 Some critics wondered, what did these foreigners think would happen when they reached Rafa?

00:21:35.660 Would the gate simply swing open? Organizers insist that they were not naive.

00:21:40.340 One activist told the AP, we do not expect to be allowed into Gaza, acknowledging they might only

00:21:45.960 hold a protest at the checkpoint. Nonetheless, this strategy banked on moral spectacle. If thousands

00:21:50.800 marched, perhaps Egypt's leadership, which officially sympathizes with Gaza, again, I said they

00:21:55.420 officially sympathize, so why no aid? Would relent, or world opinion would force a breakthrough.

00:22:01.580 In hindsight, this gamble on goodwill that ignored some of the hard realities of regional

00:22:06.080 geopolitics, as the marchers would soon discover. So again, I note here, for me, the biggest thing on

00:22:12.740 the ground. For anyone who's like Malcolm, you're exaggerating, I mentioned this above, but just like

00:22:16.180 seriously, seriously, seriously, I want people to think about this. You're exaggerating how scared

00:22:20.360 the other governments in this region are, or how much they fear the people of Gaza, as a cultural group.

00:22:26.960 Look at these fortifications. I don't think I've seen fortifications this intense, standing on any

00:22:33.360 border on Earth. These dwarf what I saw on the North Korean to South Korean border. These dwarf what I saw,

00:22:39.580 now that's a heavily mined area, so it's not really comparable. But there is just, these dwarf the

00:22:46.580 Berlin Wall, for example. This is a clearly put up, and it's not like the fortifications on the

00:22:53.940 Israeli border, which were actually fairly modest compared to the ones on the Egyptian border.

00:22:58.460 I think because the Israelis were fairly complacent about this, partially, and they wanted to look like

00:23:04.180 good guys, so they didn't actually put them in a cage. Whereas the other neighbors are like,

00:23:08.400 no, no, no, no, no. This is a cage. This is a cage like the Tyrannosaurus cage in Jurassic Park.

00:23:14.520 Like, if you were trying to judge the dangerousness of the dinosaur, we have Tyrannosaurus-level cage here.

00:23:20.720 So in other words, this utter failure of the March on Gaza, the Fyre Festival of Protests,

00:23:27.140 could have been avoided if the 4,000-plus people who decided to join thought a little bit more

00:23:36.260 about what the leadership of surrounding nations felt about more porous borders with Gaza.

00:23:44.220 No, I think they knew what they felt. I think that they thought...

00:23:48.100 They still went for clout. They just thought that it would be easier.

00:23:51.460 No, what they thought, because they had gotten used to the way the United States handles protests,

00:23:57.080 that their protests, or UK handles protests, or Norway handles protests, that their protests would

00:24:03.060 be handled like the protests in those countries, or at the very most, like the protests in LA and the

00:24:09.480 United States.

00:24:10.340 Humanely. Sort of like, I guess, Greta Thunberg made the more smart approach by cheating...

00:24:17.620 By getting caught by the Israelis.

00:24:19.980 Yeah, and they gave her sandwiches, and they kept them safe.

00:24:23.140 They met her, and she couldn't even think when they were like, what horrors did you undergo?

00:24:26.540 And she's like, I don't even want to talk about it.

00:24:28.800 Which clearly means nothing, because of course she wants to talk about it.

00:24:32.020 Well, no, no, no. I mean, she emphasized that nothing, and this is the talking point of everyone

00:24:36.840 who's being interviewed, is what they're experiencing comes nothing close to what those in Gaza are

00:24:40.940 experiencing. I don't disagree. But she, I mean, the primary indignity that she suffered was that

00:24:47.580 they were stopped from doing this. She really didn't have anything else she could say.

00:24:51.120 The problem that she's ignoring is she was sailing into an Egyptian set up beforehand

00:24:55.640 exclusion zone, and the Egyptians would have, the Israelis literally saved her from what

00:25:02.100 happened to these other protesters.

00:25:03.520 Yeah, honestly. Yeah, she was so lucky. She was so lucky they were interested.

00:25:06.780 She was so lucky that the Israelis went out and saved her.

00:25:08.720 Yeah, actually, she didn't have a complaint about them, was that they were not allowed to

00:25:11.840 leave the boat after it had been.

00:25:13.940 To see that she wouldn't even watch the videos of what happened on the day was so, like, gross to me.

00:25:19.980 Like, willfully keeping yourself ignorant. She, I mean, she must have watched hundreds of videos

00:25:24.480 of atrocities on the other side, but she wouldn't watch a single video of what was happening to the

00:25:30.480 hostages.

00:25:31.460 Oh, on October 7th? I thought she did watch.

00:25:33.920 Yeah. No, she refused to watch any of them. She has no idea, like, apparently she's never seen any

00:25:38.900 videos of what happened on October 7th. And she fastidiously refuses to watch any, because she

00:25:44.200 considers them propaganda. It's not odd, it's leftist. Leftists see one side is evil, one side

00:25:49.380 is good. Don't, don't blur your mind with the gray morality or anything like that. You know, don't,

00:25:56.320 you know, bother yourself with what's currently happening to the hostages.

00:25:59.820 Anyway, is arrival in Cairo. So we're going to go to the timeline now. The international

00:26:05.980 activists began landing in Cairo around June 11th to 12th, 2025, and immediately ran into

00:26:11.000 resistance. Egyptian authorities had gotten wind of the plans and launched a preemptive

00:26:14.680 crackdown. Dozens of known activists were detained upon arrival at Cairo airport, questions

00:26:18.880 and put on the neck flights out. Over two days, at least 73 foreign nationals were summarily deported

00:26:24.460 to Istanbul on Turkish airline flights. And by June 12th, Egyptian security had compiled lists

00:26:30.980 of March participants at local hotels. Plaincodes officers showed up at hotels in Cairo, interrogated

00:26:37.140 guests, and even confiscated their phones, according to organizers. By June 13th, groups estimated

00:26:42.180 over 200 activists from the US, Europe and North Africa had been detained or questioned in Egypt

00:26:46.960 with up to 100 more awaiting deportation. The Egyptian government gave no official welcome

00:26:51.480 to the global march. No kidding. Instead, it quietly instructed airlines that between June 12th

00:26:56.420 and 16th, all inbound Cairo passengers must hold return tickets to facilitate expelling unwanted

00:27:01.600 visitors. Do you see how, like, the US government needs to handle protesters this way? Just disappearing

00:27:09.800 them, sending them back to where they're coming from.

00:27:11.980 I do. Yeah, there's, now I'm thinking about the LA riots, you know, and how those have played

00:27:21.260 out. And also how different people are covering them. So I hear on the online podcast that the

00:27:26.920 ICE raids that have taken place, that have taken place, are being very misrepresented, that they

00:27:31.540 actually are going after the criminal enterprises. So apparently, for example, the, like some fashion

00:27:38.580 business was, was raided, but it was like a, a money laundering front. No one's talking about

00:27:44.820 that. There's been other, like, protesters complaining of, like, human trafficking orgs

00:27:47.680 where people were being raided and like. Yeah, yeah. And so that, like, I think people are given

00:27:52.820 these very skewed reports on what's happening. Well, it's not reports. It's, it's, they intentionally

00:27:58.540 blind themselves to information on the other side, which is why I'm trying to give all the information

00:28:01.740 on both sides here. I appreciate that. It's, they're Greta Thunberg-ing it. They're saying,

00:28:04.900 I won't watch any video of the atrocities Hamas committed. Yeah. I mean, I was just watching

00:28:09.360 Tyler Bender, a YouTuber who, who leans left, just talking like almost like starting to cry

00:28:16.120 as she was talking about how disturbed she was by the LA protests and what's going on with

00:28:22.660 the ICE raids. And yeah, I'm just, I'm realizing how siloed we are with information, but I'm here

00:28:30.860 on one side being like, huh, like I says, this is a complicated situation, you know, and, you know,

00:28:38.340 people are being deported, but this is, this is what the majority of people voted for. And this

00:28:42.280 is also completely in alignment with enforcing U.S. laws. And on the other hand, she is, she has this

00:28:51.380 perception that, I don't know, we're entering some fascist dictatorship and we just have, it's,

00:28:57.800 it's just crazy how differently we hear reality. And I'm glad that you are trying to look on both

00:29:03.640 sides. We try to look at information from both sides and they look at information from only one

00:29:08.220 side, which is why we're going through this today. I hope I already dispelled the rumor that these

00:29:12.340 people didn't know what was going to happen at all. They, they miscalculated something. And what

00:29:16.720 they miscalculated is that they were going into an authoritarian dictatorship and they thought that

00:29:21.040 they were going into a democracy. Right. So if I'm to recap here, one, they expected to get

00:29:26.460 social credit and clout for going out and being seen to have appeared in person for this epic

00:29:36.340 protest. And two, do you think, I don't think they actually expected to get any aid through,

00:29:43.020 right? They just expected to be like valiantly arrested and then sent back to maybe send some

00:29:48.720 aid or like just pressure the Egyptian government, but they definitely did not expect this. They didn't

00:29:54.300 expect to be, and we're going to continue with what happened to them, systemically dismantled,

00:29:59.080 removed and disappeared back to their countries of origin. Despite the dragnet, hundreds of marchers

00:30:04.860 managed to enter Egypt and regroup. On June 13th, they attempted to set out to Cairo towards Sinai by

00:30:10.940 road as planned. Several brushes and taxes carrying activists, including a 50 person Irish delegation

00:30:16.520 led by people before profit. TD Paul Murphy. Now this is the gay legislator from. Yeah. Okay.

00:30:25.860 You're part of the Suez Canal Highway. Murphy was initially optimistic. Upon landing, he posted,

00:30:31.480 nobody is being detained or deported. Pressure on the Egyptian government is clearly working.

00:30:36.240 I love this optimism. This optimism was short-lived. About 30 kilometers outside Cairo,

00:30:41.080 at a highway toll station near Islam Ali, Egyptian police sprung a trap. Roadblocks and checkpoints

00:30:46.740 abruptly halted the convoy. Officers in riot gear ordered all foreigners off the vehicles,

00:30:52.460 seizing passports and preventing anyone without an Egyptian ID from proceeding.

00:30:56.320 Approximately 40 activists from France, Spain, Canada, Turkey, and the UK and beyond were herded off

00:31:02.760 and held in the desert heat at this makeshift checkpoint. They are being held in the heat and not allowed to

00:31:10.600 move. The marked organizers reported a statement. This is a fire festival of protest. My God.

00:31:15.780 And you, you, if you see pictures of them, they have these horrible sunburns. Yes. Yes. I just keep

00:31:20.240 seeing these, these images of sweaty, very deeply uncomfortable looking people. No, I mean,

00:31:25.660 this was clearly meant to sort of torture them for me. And keep in mind, this is something that,

00:31:30.420 and we'll get to this in a bit, while the Egyptian people overwhelmingly support Gaza,

00:31:34.260 they, it turns out, and the Egyptian government was right about this,

00:31:37.740 they hate Westerners trying to impose themselves on Egyptian foreign policy more than they like Gaza.

00:31:44.700 Okay. And so these foreigners coming in there and whining and trying to force them,

00:31:49.120 they just see this as cultural imperialism, which is exactly what it is. Well, I can also see it being

00:31:52.300 insulting and being like, yeah, I'm not cool with this. Why are you implying that I am?

00:31:57.100 Being kind of insulting. Like, I can't do anything about this. We're doing what we can,

00:32:00.620 given our circumstances. But the government apparently actually like,

00:32:04.280 ended up winning more popular support based on all of this, because the people were so happy

00:32:09.940 was how the protesters were basically. The deportation of sanctimonious Westerners.

00:32:14.540 Yes. The deportation and, and. Wow. So this has just been a win for the Egyptian government.

00:32:21.340 Yeah. Just a win for the Egyptian government, just a total, because they also handled this very

00:32:24.560 effectively. And in a way that really works for people who hate sanctimonious Westerners.

00:32:31.040 And they've done a good job in terms of the play to keep out all of the Arabs who they also handled,

00:32:35.860 because they handled them before they got into Egypt. And we'll get to how they handled that in a

00:32:39.100 second. Okay.

00:32:41.240 Confrontation on the highway. As word spread that the march was blocked, tension spiked. Sun

00:32:45.780 activists attempted to sit down, attempted a sit down protest on the road, refusing to turn back.

00:32:51.960 Oh, that is so dumb in Egypt. I, you haven't been to Egypt. Drivers there. One of the craziest

00:32:57.520 things for me in Egypt, like if you talk about bad drivers, I've never seen any place are like

00:33:02.120 insane drivers. You could like do a, a turnoff from like a highway. Okay. And you'd have somebody

00:33:08.180 drive the opposite way up the turnoff, like skin by you. What? Then just start going on the highway

00:33:16.100 in the wrong direction. What? But yeah. Is there just no traffic enforcement? In Egypt, I saw this

00:33:25.400 happen in Egypt when I, I was like, how is this normal? And I want to say I saw it more than once

00:33:32.520 when I was there, but I definitely remember seeing it at least once. And it was like, it reminded me of

00:33:36.240 the Egypt baggage claim area where they scan the bags. And it's so disorderly that people will like

00:33:42.140 the machines regularly get like stuffed because people will try to stuff their bags next to other

00:33:47.120 people's bags. And so like the entrance will have like five bags shoved in it. Cause nobody wants to

00:33:51.380 wait. And there's like no lines. But what I'm saying here is when you consider a culture like that

00:33:56.900 and you think you're going to sit on a road and they're not going to be like Carmageddon, they are,

00:34:03.500 they're just going to run you right over. Oh no. I mean, it shows a, I didn't study Egyptian culture

00:34:10.200 before this, especially if you're some sanctimonious Westerner that just earns them,

00:34:15.500 you know, free drinks for a year at the local pub. Not that they drink because Muslims.

00:34:20.580 Hookah, I guess. Whenever, whenever I go to Muslim country, I always do the hookah thing.

00:34:26.260 Video footage described by participants shows a chaotic scene. Protesters chanting and sitting on

00:34:31.940 the asphalt as armed police surround them and water bottles and other objects flying towards the crowd.

00:34:36.900 allegedly it's thrown by government hired thugs mingled with security forces. So if you actually

00:34:42.480 watch what happens, it's pretty clear that these are locals and not government thugs.

00:34:45.900 Yeah. I don't know why. Yeah. Cause there, there are, there's lots of footage of plainclothes

00:34:49.600 people doing the, the more egregious harassment. You tried to do a sit down protest, blocking roads

00:34:55.360 in Egypt. They don't do that there. Egyptian people are going to throw things at you and it'll be a fun

00:35:03.320 day because the police are going to let them. And, and there's, uh, yeah, I guess that's the big

00:35:08.160 difference is in the United States, you'd be charged with assault and battery. Oh no, no. The police are

00:35:12.520 like, you go like, there's videos of like little kids, like coming out and trying to like whip the

00:35:16.180 protesters, having a blast because to them, these people are just pure evil. They are imperialism

00:35:31.480 and colonialism made manifest because they don't do these types of protests in Egypt. This would

00:35:36.140 never happen in Egypt. One, because likely to just get run over. Unfortunately for these protesters,

00:35:41.340 the cops came before that. Right. But then once the cops are there, okay, well now you're open season

00:35:46.340 for townsfolk because they're angry that you're blocking their way to work and nobody's going to

00:35:50.360 stop them from throwing water bottles and whipping you. So now you're the town's local activity for the

00:35:55.020 day. Wow. Egyptian officers did not hesitate to use force. Witnesses say riot police charged the

00:36:02.320 demonstrators and the plainclothes agents began physically dragging activists into the buses to be

00:36:07.440 shipped back to Cairo. And I'll note here that one of the things that the right is getting wrong at

00:36:11.300 they think that the reason why the people of Egypt were mad about this, like the average people,

00:36:15.060 the plainclothes people were mad about this is because there isn't like this pan-Muslim solidarity

00:36:19.160 that these people didn't care about the people of Gaza. No, they do. They just hate you more.

00:36:24.300 Okay. Yeah. And they also knew that everything that you were trying is pointless. And so why not have

00:36:29.020 fun ragging on imperialists, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. We have had our passport. Yeah.

00:36:36.460 Sorry. I'm just saying that makes sense because everyone's kind of right. It's just that people

00:36:42.120 didn't fully do their homework or I guess we have another issue of your theory of the left playing

00:36:48.100 out, which is that people are going to make the most morally comfortable interpretation of a

00:36:52.720 situation. So the most morally comfortable interpretation of how this protest is going to

00:36:57.060 play out is that, oh, well, we know for a fact, the Egyptian people, not the government maybe,

00:37:03.440 but the people support Gaza. And therefore the most morally comfortable interpretation of how

00:37:08.600 they're going to behave is they will welcome us who also hold that opinion with open arms.

00:37:13.760 Yeah. Instead of like, there is a possibility that these people may have a bias against us that we

00:37:20.800 would even say could be slightly racist or nationalist. Yeah. I mean, this is the type of

00:37:26.720 way people get thrown from roofs and they're like, well, come on, you don't actually hate our way of

00:37:32.560 life that much more than even the Israeli. Oh, you do. Oh no. But anyway, no, but there's this

00:37:40.660 delusion, right? Like that they're on the same tide and they're not, they're useful idiots when

00:37:47.000 there was in their own countries. When they come to these other countries, there's nothing but

00:37:49.960 colonizers. So quote, tourists. Yeah. Yeah. We have had our passports confiscated and are being

00:37:56.240 detained. Murphy managed to post to his social media from the standoff, calling it a blatant

00:38:00.320 crackdown on the great march to Gaza. What a sanctimonious turd. Within hours, the highway was

00:38:06.100 cleared of protesters, many bruised and some in tears as multiple busloads of detained marchers were

00:38:12.040 escorted under guard back towards Cairo. One Dutch participant recounted some of his group were beaten up by

00:38:19.440 the police coming back, battered, bruised and broken. Well, these are a developing country

00:38:25.160 that's fascist under like military rules, police. Of course you are so lucky. You didn't go to an

00:38:32.660 Egyptian prison. You lucky, lucky bastard. Even as they were being driven away, some activists

00:38:39.560 continued to plead with Egyptian officers. Where is your heart? One British woman shouted in a widely

00:38:46.060 shared clip, but to no avail. I mean, of course not. You don't understand the situation on the

00:38:51.360 ground. And these sorts of where is your heart? That is not how Muslims communicate this. They're

00:38:56.660 like, that is not how they communicate their support of the Gazan people. They're not like,

00:39:01.020 oh, where is your heart? They're like, hey, we're in this together to kill the Jews.

00:39:06.960 If you had gone out there and said, let's kill the Jews together, you would have found a very

00:39:12.560 different response. You just forgot what their ultimate goal is. I know. And I mean this very

00:39:19.300 seriously. I think that the protesters had started saying a bunch of anti-Semitic stuff. They would

00:39:22.960 have had a very different response. I think so. Oh my gosh. In crime, where is your heart? If

00:39:30.480 they started to be like, we need to get the Jews, we need to get rid of them. We need to handle this.

00:39:35.820 Some of the people in the crowd would be like, these people are speaking truth. We might need to let

00:39:41.500 them through. And it's because they haven't listened to why the average person in Egypt

00:39:47.500 supports the Gazans. It's not for the reason they support the Gazans. Okay. It's not for the reason

00:39:53.680 they support the Gazans. Notable incidents. The clash at Islamia was marked by several dramatic

00:39:59.660 moments. Sky News footage shows Egyptian riot police manhandling protesters on the road. And Paul

00:40:04.640 Murphy described how in the fray, an American woman was in his group was badly kicked and beaten.

00:40:09.320 Her hijab turned off by police. Egyptian agents also seized Murphy's phone midstream as he tried

00:40:17.380 to document the scene. His last message before the phone cut out said, violence got worse after

00:40:22.440 they seized my phone. They're taking us south, then west towards Cairo. For a time, several dozen

00:40:27.480 marchers, including Murphy, were held up incommunicato on those buses as they were ferried back under

00:40:32.800 guard to the capital. This prompted diplomatic scrambling. Ireland's embassy and others negotiated

00:40:38.100 behind the scenes. And by the next day, June 14th, Egypt had released some detainees in Cairo rather

00:40:44.200 than immediately deporting them. Murphy confirmed that he and a few others were back in a Cairo hotel

00:40:48.920 by Saturday, meeting shortly to decide next steps, he says. However, Egyptian authorities kept the

00:40:54.780 pressure on. Activists reported Plankos police tailing them in Cairo, of course. And another roundup

00:41:00.440 on Sunday 15th, where some tried to quietly arrange to travel towards Sinai again. I love they're

00:41:06.540 trying to get past these police. But we need police like this. We need police like the police we have

00:41:13.480 in Florida, because we do have police like this in the US. They know what's up. I got to post that

00:41:17.440 video of the Florida police chief. Oh, gosh. We got this just not in LA. You know, we need the LA police

00:41:24.600 chief saying this up. If you resist lawful orders, you're going to jail. Let me be very clear about

00:41:30.200 that. If you block an intersection or a roadway in Brevard County, you are going to jail. If you

00:41:36.680 flee arrest, you're going to go to jail tired, because we are going to run you down and put you

00:41:41.840 in jail. If you try to mob rule a car in Brevard County, gathering around it, refusing to let the

00:41:48.220 driver leave, in our county, you're most likely going to get run over and dragged across the street.

00:41:55.300 If you spit on us, you're going to the hospital and in jail. If you hit one of us, you're going to

00:42:02.160 the hospital and jail and most likely get bitten by one of our big, beautiful dogs that we have here.

00:42:08.040 If you throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun at one of our deputies,

00:42:13.580 we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains at,

00:42:17.020 because we will kill you graveyard dead. We're not going to play. This has got to stop.

00:42:23.300 Your family will be called for to pick up your remains. Big, beautiful dogs. That man. That man.

00:42:30.680 Murphy was detained a second time on June 16th, along with others, according to his political party.

00:42:36.020 By that point, it was clear that the march would never reach Gaza. Egyptians' crackdown had

00:42:40.160 effectively dismantled the protests before it even left Egyptian soil. Now, what happened to the

00:42:45.600 Samad? The land convoy waved Palestinian flags from a bus as they journeyed through Libya towards Egypt.

00:42:51.580 This is June 10th, 2025. This North African caravan of around 1,500 activists. So they were smaller,

00:42:57.860 but still very large. Again, this is a lot of people to actually do something that takes effort.

00:43:03.400 Leave the house.

00:43:04.940 But it, too, was stopped short of the border. The Tunisian-era convoy. In the meantime,

00:43:09.740 the parallel land convoy from North Africa also ran into obstacles. This convoy had grown to 1,000 to

00:43:15.320 1,500 people in a multi-bus caravan by the time it crossed Tunisia, Libya. After an enthusiastic

00:43:22.440 send-off in Tunisia where crowds waved Palestinian flags and chanted solidarity slogans, Samad traversed

00:43:28.720 Libya's western regions with the intention to reach Egypt by June 15th. But on June 12th,

00:43:33.640 when the convoy reached the city of Syrite in central Libya, it was barred from further travel

00:43:38.420 by the authorities of the eastern Libyan government, General Hathar's factions. Hathar is an ally of

00:43:44.460 Egypt's government, and his forces informed the convoy that Egypt had denied them entry.

00:43:48.820 Therefore, you will not pass, as one organizer quoted local officials.

00:43:52.400 The convoy was allowed to camp on the outskirts of Syrite while awaiting, quote-unquote,

00:43:58.560 permission, but that approval never came. I love how they just wait them out and stuff like that.

00:44:03.920 It's a perfect way to handle them. Be like, you just need to wait for permission. Just wait out

00:44:08.940 there in the desert, and we'll come and let you know in a few days.

00:44:12.900 Yeah, it's uniquely troll-y. Yeah, they clearly, because they could have just sent them away.

00:44:16.940 They could have just sent them away, and they're like, no. But it's a great way to de-escalate,

00:44:21.100 right? Like, it reminds me of the 30 rock, like the pilots always say, wait 30 minutes.

00:44:26.120 You know, just wait a little bit, and we'll come back.

00:44:31.200 By late June 12th to 13th, Samad's leaders knew they were effectively stuck in Libya.

00:44:36.760 We didn't cross 2,000 kilometers all for nothing, exclamation mark,

00:44:40.420 one frustrated organizer shouted to the gathered crowd in Syrite. Yet, in reality, they had.

00:44:47.140 Egypt's security influence extended beyond its borders, enlisting Libyan allies to prevent

00:44:51.740 mass Arab marchers from showing up at Egypt's doorstep. So, I found this to be really fascinating

00:44:57.180 as well. That was quite well played by Egypt, because it would have been an issue optically

00:45:00.660 if they had had a bunch of Arab people there as well. Instead of what's been all over social media,

00:45:04.980 it's a bunch of woke-looking urban monocultures. I mean, I've never seen a perfect depiction of the

00:45:08.240 urban monocultures and what these protesters look like.

00:45:10.040 So, they're sort of also strategic in who they let get far and then essentially

00:45:14.440 handled. Yeah, these annoying Irish guys and the, you know, all these sanctimonious turds.

00:45:21.280 The ones that, yeah, even Gaza-sympathetic Egyptians would say, okay, I don't object.

00:45:30.120 Yeah. So, no significant group of activists ever made it to the border.

00:45:34.700 Wow. So, this just utterly failed. I guess where you and I differ in the expectations of these

00:45:44.360 groups as they were planning and coming out, and at least over $4,000. Sorry, over $4,000.

00:45:50.260 I don't go too long.

00:45:51.520 Like, you thought they were going to make it. I just, I really don't think they thought they

00:45:55.460 were going to make it. I think maybe they thought they'd be comfortably set away, and honestly,

00:45:58.900 if anything, that they would just go on a nice vacation from wherever they got deported. Like,

00:46:05.660 maybe taking off from the Istanbul airport, which is such a good hub airport. That's my assumption

00:46:10.360 here. You really don't think so. Keep in mind how many times they tried to reorganize the protest

00:46:17.120 over and over again. They were trailed. They were then arrested. They then, no matter how bad things

00:46:21.880 got, they kept trying to reorganize this, even though they knew they could end up in Egyptian prisons,

00:46:26.280 which is a big deal. Oof. Okay. Keep going then. Wow. A few Egyptian citizens, a few,

00:46:31.340 tried to show solidarity, but were quickly restrained. For example, a few Egyptian activists

00:46:35.480 rallied outside of Journalist Syndicate in Cairo on June 12th to support the march, only to face police.

00:46:40.820 Oh, okay. And he hopes that, quote unquote, the people would simply surge to Rafa was firmly

00:46:46.000 quashed by state power. Okay. So, accusations of treachery versus solidarity.

00:46:50.840 Great. The march's failure sparked a war of narratives. Pro-Palestinian activists accused

00:46:56.300 Egypt of betrayal, given Egypt itself portrays itself as Gaza's lifeline. Online hashtags like

00:47:01.560 shame on you, Saisi, trended in Arab activist circles, condemning Egyptian regime for harassing

00:47:07.620 those trying to feed Gaza. They cited Egypt's complicity in the siege. For example, Egypt has

00:47:12.260 often kept Rafa closed except for limited aid, aligning with Israel's blockade. One Algerian marcher

00:47:18.960 detained in Cairo lamented Arab leaders pay lip service to the Palestinians, but crush anyone

00:47:24.660 who actually tries to help. Why? Like, these people need to ask why? Do they just, are they

00:47:32.300 just meanies? On the flip side, Egyptian state media defended the crackdown and painted the

00:47:37.420 marchers as either naive or provocateurs. Some local commentators suggested that if the foreigners

00:47:42.520 really wanted to help Gaza, they should protest in Tel Aviv or Washington, not Israel. Sorry,

00:47:47.200 not Egypt. And that really would have aligned with the Egyptian people's view. Like, why are you

00:47:52.460 blocking our streets? Why are you disrupting our lives? And the leftists have gotten used to trying

00:47:58.400 to protest the people who they think agrees with them more. This has become a common thing where like

00:48:02.900 in the United States, the leftist Palestinian protesters often will much more frequently protest

00:48:08.460 progressive politicians than protest conservative politicians. But they actually almost never protest

00:48:12.980 conservative politicians. And I think that they tried to apply this to a global scale, thinking,

00:48:19.960 well, Egypt will be more sympathetic to us than Israel will. And that's just wrong. It's like

00:48:24.240 patently shows a misunderstanding of the two countries' stances. They would have found a much

00:48:28.320 warmer reception in Israel. This view, essentially, take your protest to the right address, resonated with

00:48:33.520 Egyptians who resented Western meddling. Even some ordinary Egyptians, supportive of Gaza in

00:48:39.600 principle, felt the march risked spectacle that could have backfired by drawing Israeli ire or chaos to

00:48:45.460 Egypt. Thus, the aftermath largely saw the Egyptian government come out on top. And really, all the

00:48:51.360 activists did was reinforce the government's position that aid and traversal on the border should be

00:48:58.080 extremely limited. Inside Egypt, the government's firm response likely played well with regime's

00:49:05.300 priorities. Sisi's administration portrayed the event as proof of its vigilance. There was

00:49:09.580 no such significant backlash. So no backlash happened in Egypt. A fact that might surprise

00:49:14.100 outsiders until one considers Egypt's political climate under Sisi, public protests are virtually

00:49:19.660 outlawed, which is why they would have seen them as so upsetting and arrogant. Most Egyptians have been

00:49:24.780 depoliticized or silenced under the fear of arrest. And also, you know, when a government has this

00:49:32.060 power, sometimes depoliticizing can be nice when you've had a lot of political violence over the last few

00:49:37.600 decades, which is, you know, what happened here. And if anything, Sisi used this to burnish his

00:49:43.600 strongman image, showing he can stand up to foreign pressure and maintain order. So these people

00:49:47.800 basically came in as like a face for like foreign pressure, even though no foreign government was

00:49:53.180 behind them. And it made him look like he was able to stand up to like the U.S. and the U.K. and

00:49:57.080 everything like that in a way that made him look good in front of his people, like the broader urban

00:50:01.020 monoculture. These people sort of represented like the U.N., for example, which they really do

00:50:04.980 in terms of a viewpoint. Now, I'll also note here that overall, Egypt is very pro-Gaza. 97%

00:50:12.560 of Egyptians agreed that all Arab states should sever ties with Israel in protest of its actions in

00:50:17.680 Gaza. And 96% believed Egypt should send more humanitarian aid to Palestinians. 96% of people

00:50:24.180 believe this. And yet they still lost popular support by doing American-style protests.

00:50:30.440 Wow. Now, as to why governments do not want to take in Gazan refugees, let's go over a few instances

00:50:41.820 just looking at Egypt. 2008, Hamas-led breach at Rafa, 200 to 700K crossed. That's a lot. Wow.

00:50:51.260 So it sounds like Egypt let them come through at that point because... No, they blew up the giant

00:50:58.020 walls and they raced through. Like they had pre-planned it. They let the people know we're

00:51:02.220 blowing up the walls and then the people flooded in. If you can imagine, this would be like you're

00:51:06.860 right next to like a country that is known for violence or something like that. Like imagine

00:51:11.660 we were right next to Haiti or something, except Haiti was giant and somebody blew up the walls

00:51:16.580 between us and Haiti and, you know, 200,000 to 700,000 came in. Or imagine like Joe Biden imported

00:51:22.500 that many people. What I'm saying is like, it's not like culturally, the Egyptians are like,

00:51:27.140 these people are not like us, but we don't want to let them in. And so this is something that Egypt,

00:51:31.620 it caused major issues. There were a lot of death tied to this. There were like, this is something

00:51:35.820 that the Egyptian people would have remembered and not thought fondly of.

00:51:39.700 Well, I mean, if, if, okay, a lot of people crossing the border, you said, what, did you say

00:51:44.200 700,000? You didn't say 700,000 to 200,000. That's crazy. Okay. So obviously, you know,

00:51:52.420 deporting them would take time and a lot of work, but presumably they were systematically deported,

00:51:56.880 right? I think a lot of them ended up staying, forming. What often happens with Gazans and we'll

00:52:02.000 get into, but we actually won't get into this today because we've taken too much time is when they move

00:52:05.500 to other countries, they form ghettos where they become radicalized and then often attempt to attack

00:52:09.960 the local governments. Yeah. But wouldn't they try to take out those ghettos if indeed they are

00:52:14.020 maybe? I mean, the current government in Egypt, Egypt is very effective and I doubt many people

00:52:19.340 would notice or care if the Gazan ghettos were being taken out. So 2014 to 2015, only a few years

00:52:26.140 later, buffer zone expansion, tunnels flooded, thousands of homes destroyed, mass demolitions,

00:52:31.280 forced evictions, 31 soldiers killed, large residential displacement. 2023 to 2025, Gaza war,

00:52:38.020 medical evacuations, 2,200 wounded entered, strict vetting, humanitarian aid only. So this is like,

00:52:44.780 from their perspective, we're strictly vetting who's coming in. We're just going to take in some

00:52:47.840 wounded during the war. Now, if you're looking at the various insurrections they caused, you have

00:52:52.200 Jordan, 1970 to 1971, attempted PLO-led overthrow, Black September, 3,000 to 5,000 people died. So this

00:53:00.120 is 3,000 to 5,000 Canadian citizens died. And they attempted to assassinate the monarch who let them in

00:53:07.160 graciously, giving them places to live, creating communities for them. This is the way Gazans act.

00:53:13.060 Like, there's a reason why other people aren't letting them in. There's a reason why these walls

00:53:16.860 are giant. Lebanon, 1975 to 1990, civil war with Palestinian militias. Over 100,000 people died.

00:53:25.300 PLO-operated state within a state sparked a sectarian war and tried to take over the Lebanese

00:53:29.560 government. So over 100,000 people died because of their kindness to the Palestinian people.

00:53:36.400 Trying to let them in or trying to give them a place to live. Yeah, that's one of those patterns of

00:53:40.560 fool me once, shame on me. Oh, hold on. No, there's more. Syria, 2011 to 2018. Civil war,

00:53:49.980 Yarkamok siege and insurgency, 3,000 to 5,000 people. Palestinian factions split between regime

00:53:55.220 and opposition. Now, what was interesting about this one is that the mainstream administration

00:54:00.680 actually brought in Palestinian refugees to act as soldiers for them, while some that were already

00:54:05.440 in the country ended up splitting and going for the opposition faction. And this just sort of shows

00:54:10.420 that even the faction is like, oh no, I need bloodthirsty people to kill my enemies. Where am I

00:54:14.460 going to find the random mobs? Oh, I'll just import a bunch of Palestinians to kill people. Which was

00:54:20.920 the idea here. And it worked. Kuwait, 1991, mass expulsions and backlash. Hundreds of people died.

00:54:29.620 PLO supported Saddam's invasion. Kuwait viewed it as betrayal. So in Kuwait, when Saddam attacked,

00:54:35.960 the Palestinians who they had accepted into their country and treated its guests and got set up,

00:54:40.240 immediately turned traitor, incited with Saddam's regime. Again. Oh my gosh. Yeah. They're not

00:54:46.460 exactly people you want in your country. Libya, 1995 to 1996, mass expulsions, no uprising,

00:54:53.200 political shift under Gaddafi led to backlash. So they, they just pushed them out before there

00:54:57.280 was a major issue. But the point being is that when you look at this, you're like, oh, this is why

00:55:04.700 the heads of these countries are terrified of these people coming in. This is why the walls between the

00:55:10.160 two countries in Egypt look like not the piddly little walls between Egypt and Gaza, but they look

00:55:16.980 like a multiplicative version of the Tyrannosaurus prince in Jurassic Park, which shows the threat that

00:55:24.580 the Egyptian government perceives from this region. That's, I wonder, so if I were speaking with someone

00:55:32.820 on, on the left, because the problem is that no one I've heard talk about Gaza has addressed this,

00:55:40.520 if you could get someone to have, like to, to this point in the conversation and say,

00:55:45.640 well, what is a government to do given this track record? What do you think that a pro,

00:55:51.640 like any one of these people who put their time and their money on the line to participate in this

00:55:56.580 project, what would they say? The left will assume about reality, whatever would be moral,

00:56:01.540 if true. So they will say it would be more moral if everyone was equally beautiful. So they'll say

00:56:06.020 everyone is equally beautiful. It'd be more moral if that homeless guy was homeless because of stuff

00:56:09.660 that was nothing to do with his fault. So they'll say, okay, nothing to do with his fault. It'd be

00:56:13.920 more moral if everyone was born with equal capacity. So they'll say everyone is born equally capable.

00:56:18.400 It's all this environment. They will say the only reason that the Gazans are doing this is because

00:56:23.220 they've been wrong before or because, you know, that Israel is mean to them. And that has created

00:56:29.200 this behavior in the Gaza people. And that, that if Israel just became super nice and all the Jews

00:56:35.540 decided to leave and gave the country back to them, back to them. I don't really believe in that term,

00:56:40.820 but this is, I'm talking from a leftist perspective. Right.

00:56:43.920 From my perspective, the people who were in Israel before the native population, the Jewish population

00:56:49.920 reclaimed it were colonizers. They had, you know, under the Ottoman empire, forcibly deported the Jewish

00:56:56.240 people in the same way the Americans did with like native Americans. And it's always shocking to me

00:57:00.040 that in the one region where like the native population has actually reconquered the region,

00:57:04.460 they're like, no, like we need to give it back to the colonizers because the colonizers have the

00:57:09.380 right skin tone. And it's like giving wherever you are in the world, in the United States,

00:57:14.500 if like the Seminoles took back Florida, it would be really bloody. Like that's what it looks like,

00:57:19.180 what the left is actually advocating for. And where it actually happened in one location in the world,

00:57:24.400 they were like, Oh no, reverse it. And they'll have things. I always talk about how like,

00:57:28.640 there's this leftist meme of like Mount Rushmore. And it's like, can you believe this like defaced

00:57:34.800 native American monument? Like, you know, this is, this is horrifying. And I'm like, that is like

00:57:40.660 nothing compared to the temple of the rock, literally on top of the single and most holy site in all of

00:57:46.660 Jerusalem as like a giant and intentional defacement of it. And that the Jews within Jerusalem don't even

00:57:51.240 move it. They don't, they don't get rid of it. They don't, they, they allow Muslims to still pray,

00:57:55.080 pray there. Like that, that shows an incredible amount of magnanimity when they're, you know,

00:58:00.140 have the wailing wall where they cry and restoration of their temple every day and they

00:58:05.120 control this region. Right. You know, so, so I think that that shows this, this, that this is an

00:58:10.220 area that was taken to them by a colonial force, a big empire, multiple big empires. There were

00:58:14.380 multiple Arab empires and the Ottomans and stuff like that, who took the region from them

00:58:17.380 and, and, and various waves of deportations. It wasn't just, you know, one wave of deportations,

00:58:21.600 but you know, I, the thing is, is to the left, that would be inconvenient if it was true.

00:58:27.360 So they say it's not true. They say, actually the Jews never really were in the area long enough,

00:58:32.360 or, you know, they, in their religious texts, it said they migrated to the region. The problem is,

00:58:36.800 is that their genes show that they did at least 50% of them are canine in origin. So at least 50% of

00:58:42.140 the Jewish population. And that's about as much as you can hope for, for like going back to the

00:58:47.180 very beginning of human history have been in the region since the very, very beginning of human

00:58:52.040 history. And, and to say, okay, well, you know, they, they don't want to believe any of that.

00:58:56.740 Right. So they, they will just take an interpretation of all these events. It'd be the

00:59:01.220 most moral interpretation, which is, well, the Jews, because they won and they must be the aggressors

00:59:06.320 and, and, and, and they must be the bad guys because they're not the right skin tone and the

00:59:10.880 people they're fighting against are weaker than them. And the weaker side is always a good guy

00:59:14.680 because that's the way all our stories work. Right. You know, it couldn't possibly be that,

00:59:18.800 that, you know, that, that they keep committing atrocities or something like this. And if they

00:59:23.040 are repeatedly committing atrocities, those atrocities must be due to the way they've been

00:59:27.220 treated and, and not due to, you know, that that would be the. Yeah. Or that, yeah. Like

00:59:32.720 this, any uprising they had or any violence they committed

00:59:37.280 was in response to apparently undocumented or suppressed or otherwise K hold action taken

00:59:45.760 against them that they were only fighting back and that it was, it was framed differently.

00:59:52.280 Is that kind of. Yeah. Well, I mean, I've heard what their narratives are on the Israeli

00:59:56.880 Palestinian, like historic relationship, and it's often mostly fictional. Israel really brought a number

01:00:02.720 of like really fair deals to the table about how the situation could be fixed. And when I say fair,

01:00:09.120 I mean fair where the alternative wasn't get rid of the Jews. And every time they did many deals that

01:00:15.940 were quite generous to the Palestinians, the Palestinians basically said, no, it's get rid of

01:00:22.260 the Jews. That's what we want. If you want to get a great and really funny, short primer on the

01:00:28.960 history of this situation. Drava Hadi, who does Unbiased Rome, which generally is pretty anti-Semitic

01:00:34.740 in its takes, which I think shows that he's not, you know, particularly sympathetic to the Jewish

01:00:38.800 people and how he goes over this. He just finds the situation funny, how far they've bent over

01:00:42.940 backwards, trying to create peace in the region. He did a piece on this called Unbiased Israel History,

01:00:48.480 and it's really good. And I'd suggest you check it out if you like this channel and sort of the mix

01:00:52.160 of information and humor. But not even their constant tunnel building could stop Israel's quest for peace.

01:00:57.140 In 1993, Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and Arafat, under the auspices of Bill Clinton,

01:01:02.900 signed the Oslo Accords, giving the PLO recognition and tons of self-governance,

01:01:07.700 just asking them to stop being terrorists in return. After a little trolling, later came Prime

01:01:12.440 Minister Barak to finish the deal. Offering 90% of the West Bank many settlements to be destroyed,

01:01:18.360 East Jerusalem, allowing many 1948 refugees to return, it was everything Palestinians could

01:01:23.660 practically hope for. Arafat, with such a great offer for a Palestinian state at hand,

01:01:28.480 he launched the Second Intifada and ensured a peace. Despite the Second Intifada being over,

01:01:33.560 Arafat dying and Mr. Abbas succeeding him to power, Sharon's big Jewish heart still yearned for long-term

01:01:40.020 peace. As a show of goodwill, he pulled all Israeli troops and settlements out of Gaza,

01:01:45.020 and the Palestinians followed this up by using their newfound self-governance by voting for Hamas.

01:01:50.120 Things then got too rowdy. The PLO kicked Hamas from the West Bank and kept an illegal hold on

01:01:55.440 power, and Hamas bombed the PLO out of Gaza. The Gaza Strip was blockaded, unemployment rose to 50%,

01:02:01.960 living standards crashed, and most money sent to Gaza was turned into rockets. So betrayed was Ariel

01:02:07.560 Sharon, he fell into a permanent coma until his death.

01:02:10.780 I will note here, something I've heard a few times, which has always really shocked me,

01:02:13.740 is comparing the Israeli situation right now to apartheid, which I've just found bizarre.

01:02:20.720 A region in which some ethnicities are treated less than other ethnicities are given specific

01:02:26.600 restrictions when contrasted with other ethnicities is not an apartheid-like region. That's an insult

01:02:31.420 to apartheid. Within that, modern South Africa would be apartheid because Elon Musk, despite being

01:02:38.160 South African, can't do business there without 30% of his business being owned by a black person.

01:02:42.580 That would consider that apartheid. What we instead are seeing is when Israel was liberated

01:02:49.240 by the colonizers who had the various colonial Arab empires, whether it was the Ottomans or whether it

01:02:56.940 was the various Arab waves of conquest, had extracted a lot of the Jewish population and attempted to

01:03:03.100 replace them. In those periods, within Muslim law, there is sort of a second-class citizen status for

01:03:09.960 non-Muslims, which is in a way a lot nicer than you have within a lot of Christian systems. So I'm not

01:03:14.560 going to say like this is a horrible thing, but Jews did live as second-class citizens within that

01:03:18.880 system. When they took over, if you look at Muslims living within Israel today, who are not within these

01:03:25.560 regions that basically say our goal is to eradicate the Jews, they have a much higher quality of living

01:03:30.940 than Muslims in pretty much any other Muslim country I've gone to, except for the wealthy parts of

01:03:35.640 like Dubai and Qatar and stuff like that. And the reason for this is, yes, they do have some

01:03:41.640 restrictions applied to them in the same way that like whites in South Africa today might have some

01:03:46.700 restrictions applied to them. But they are less than even the restrictions in South Africa today.

01:03:51.880 But I'd also note that the restrictions that were placed on Jews in Muslim-ruled Israel pre all of

01:03:57.520 this were much less than the restrictions put on blacks in apartheid South Africa. So in both

01:04:02.260 instances, it's lower, but I'm just pointing out that it was more restrictive before this,

01:04:06.380 if you don't include the territories where the stated goal of those territories is the eradication

01:04:11.060 of the Jewish people. And from my perspective, to demand that the Jewish people let people who stay,

01:04:17.500 my goal is the eradication of the Jewish people, just freely roam their country, they do let Muslims

01:04:22.100 live in their country and live quite well, which I would contrast here with almost every majority

01:04:26.340 Muslim country on earth where most Jews would be killed if they attempted to live there,

01:04:30.440 either by the state or by just the local population. You know, Muslims live in Israel,

01:04:35.540 Jews don't live in Gaza. You know, Muslims live in Israel, Jews don't live in Iran.

01:04:40.380 I find it absolutely laughable when I hear somebody be like, well, what about the Muslims who still have

01:04:45.720 the keys to their homes in Jerusalem? And it's like, well, what about the Jews who still have the keys to

01:04:50.340 their homes in any of those Muslim countries they were kicked out of, which they were kicked out of?

01:04:54.740 Oh, you were unaware that that happened? Oh, and that it happened at greater numbers?

01:04:58.960 Oh, okay. Why didn't you even think to look into that? Oh, because you're drip fed a lie.

01:05:03.700 So even if you personally aren't anti-Semitic, if you were unaware of this fact, you need to ask

01:05:08.500 yourself, why would the people who control the information sources that you get information from

01:05:13.140 hide this from you? By the way, if you're wondering about the exact numbers, in terms of Jews expelled

01:05:17.580 for Muslim countries during that period, it was around 850,000 to a million. In regards to

01:05:22.580 Palestinians who were expelled, it was 700,000 to 770,000. And if you're like, well, it's wrong

01:05:27.200 either way, then why haven't you ever campaigned once about the Jews? They don't live in a lot of

01:05:33.700 these Muslim majority countries. And that's what makes this demand so unfair to me. Oh, you have to

01:05:38.920 let more Muslims live in Israel. Well, why not more Jews? Why don't you care that Jews get killed when

01:05:42.740 they live in these other countries? Because you're anti-Semitic. I mean, it's very obvious that these

01:05:46.960 people are just anti-Semitic, or that they simply haven't thought this through. To demand that they

01:05:52.180 let, not just Muslims, which they do, but Muslims who say that they want to eradicate them, that they

01:05:58.580 have to let these people who say my core goal in life is killing Jews, to live alongside the Jews

01:06:05.300 in the Jewish centers of power, that's anti-Semitic. That's just comically anti-Semitic. And to deny that

01:06:12.640 these people exist, and I understand that progressives will. They're like, oh, nobody could really want the

01:06:16.460 eradication of another people. And it's like, well, look to history. Look at what's happened

01:06:20.280 over and over again in Israel. Like, clearly they actually do. Listen to what they're saying.

01:06:24.500 Look at the actual Hamas charter. And I can understand how leftists can be like, well,

01:06:28.560 they took their land or whatever, right? Like, if you don't consider that this land was ever really

01:06:32.080 Jewish, which they don't. They don't consider that the Jews were, you know, taken from their land

01:06:37.040 by colonizers, which they were. But because of that, because they take that perspective, they're like,

01:06:41.840 well, the Jews really should have just given up the land and left Israel. But of course,

01:06:44.940 the Jews aren't going to do that because it's not just like the Holocaust they're dealing with.

01:06:48.040 It's all of the pogroms. Every time they settled somewhere, every time they weren't the majority

01:06:51.740 within a country, they had mass slaughter. This happens like every 50 years for the Jewish people.

01:06:57.600 Like, it's not like a one, it's not like a one-time thing with the Holocaust. This was happening over

01:07:01.020 and over and over and over again in medieval Europe. And when I look at the anti-Semitic flare-up we've

01:07:06.040 had in the United States, anti-Semitic flare-up we've had in the UK, I can say without a doubt

01:07:10.860 that this is not a phenomenon stuck in history. That a Jew would say, look, I'm really not safe

01:07:16.720 without a land of my own. And we built a place into somewhere prosperous and we took what was

01:07:21.640 essentially desert and built it into a thriving technological hub. It seems a little unfair

01:07:28.320 to give it back at this point.

01:07:30.200 Well, also with apparently Hamas acknowledging that they want to kind of keep some of the Jews

01:07:36.820 around to keep the stuff that makes it work.

01:07:39.060 Yeah, what Hamas said they wanted to do was when they raided and took Israel, they're like,

01:07:43.560 well, we'll kill a lot of them, but the ones who are like economically productive will keep

01:07:46.720 them and essentially use them as slaves. Their plan was not to export the Jews, if that's what

01:07:51.760 you think their goal was. They're like, no, Jews are economically productive.

01:07:55.020 But you're actually helping me think about the whole Gaza situation in light of this protest.

01:08:01.460 Yeah. And in a new light of this, the reason why there's such a different perception of reality,

01:08:07.660 despite all the apparent issues. Cause I mean, I think it's easy to be myopically focused just on

01:08:13.360 October and just, just those isolated atrocities and be like, okay, small group of people got a

01:08:20.340 little out of hand.

01:08:21.620 On the claim of this being a small group that got out of hand, it was a group that was

01:08:25.000 organized by Hamas, a government that was elected by a higher majority than the Nazis

01:08:29.100 were elected in Germany.

01:08:30.840 That's not all of the, you know, that's not all the people of Gaza and they were reacting

01:08:36.440 to whatever is really attempts at genocide. But then when you go back and you just see

01:08:42.820 every attempt that countries made to maybe accommodate them and to host them and to, you

01:08:49.340 see, they have with Israel. It's a beef they have with everyone. And that's why other Muslims

01:08:54.860 keep them near Israel because they hate Israel.

01:08:57.300 Well, and this being a very, yeah, well, there's just in general, a very unstable population that

01:09:02.960 now is being used by Qatar and Iran is like a cudgel to use against their enemies.

01:09:09.960 Yeah, but they don't care about them. They see it as a disposable cudgel.

01:09:12.720 Right. Well, which is also, I mean, extra convenient. You don't want to use your own assets.

01:09:16.940 If you talk with Iranians, like in positions of power about this, they really see them as

01:09:22.740 quite inhuman. They see them as completely disposable assets.

01:09:25.620 Well, which makes sense when you look at what Hamas is encouraged to do. And, you know,

01:09:30.080 they use innocent, defenseless people as human shields.

01:09:33.940 Well, you know, you talk about that, but this is their entire mindset. I thought of a video

01:09:37.040 of a mom who had her kids die in Gaza. And she is laughing and cheering and doing dances.

01:09:42.620 And then she says she hopes her grandkids get to die too. Because she is so excited that they got

01:09:48.080 to die in a conflict with Jews, because that is how much she hates the Jews. And this is the mindset

01:09:55.360 that you're dealing with here. You think, oh, my kids died. What a horrible tragedy. The people of

01:10:01.400 Gaza think it's a fiesta. Like when you have that mindset towards anyone who's an outsider and keep in

01:10:08.620 mind, this isn't just for the Jews. Like if they were fighting against Jordan, she'd feel the same way

01:10:12.600 they were fighting against. You can't like that sort of culture. You need to work really hard to

01:10:18.700 dismantle it. And that's very difficult to do. Yikes. Yeah. So, but, but you can't literally that

01:10:26.460 interpretation of reality is impossible. If you are a part of the urban monoculture, which again,

01:10:32.640 takes whatever the most morally comfortable interpretation of reality is. And the only way

01:10:37.580 to morally comfortably interpret what has happened and what they are doing is to say everything is a

01:10:44.440 desperate reaction to even more egregious behavior. Right. And then, and then of course you're disturbed

01:10:50.600 because you're like, wow, if this is their desperate, if whatever they're reacting to is way,

01:10:55.240 way, way worse than this, then the things that are happening to them are truly unforgivable. And we just

01:11:02.700 have to end it. And if we just end that, they won't do anything bad anymore. It's like when

01:11:06.540 they're like, they were put in a human zoo and stuff like that. Like, you know, and it's like,

01:11:11.120 well, look at the walls on the, on the Israeli side and look at the walls on the Egyptian side,

01:11:15.760 who was really like, this isn't a, you know, a cage that was created by one people. This was a cage

01:11:20.680 that was created by all of their neighbors who independently learned it was necessary. Like, but,

01:11:26.000 but they can't see that they can't see that one culture might be more violent.

01:11:29.420 I couldn't understand it before. I couldn't understand it before. And now I feel like you're

01:11:33.080 helping me understand it, which is that this has to be a reaction, a defensive reaction to even more

01:11:39.020 egregious behavior. And if, if I thought that was true, then I could see myself fighting

01:11:45.700 for the same cause that the pro-Gaza people are fighting for, because that would be terrifying if it

01:11:52.740 were true. It's not true. No, no. Hold on. I note here, when we're talking about egregious behavior,

01:11:56.680 we're talking about egregious behavior before the attacks, after the attacks, there has been a

01:12:01.060 lot of civilian casualties. Oh yeah. I will note that. I just don't see what other choice Israel

01:12:05.840 has. Like their, their sons and daughters are still in caves being traded as. Well, but again,

01:12:11.080 like what you see Israel doing is, is what I think the, the Gaza supporters think Gaza is doing,

01:12:17.080 right? Israel is responding in a very violent and terrifying way to something even more violent

01:12:24.380 and terrifying that happened to them. But Israel would stop if they just released the prisoners.

01:12:28.140 Like that's it. Like it's so, one of the things there is, is all you need to do is for the prisoners

01:12:32.180 to be released. And this ends. And this idea that you would be, and Israel will not stop until the

01:12:36.960 prisoners are released. I'm not going to release the prisoners. They're not going to do that.

01:12:41.260 Which, which means that Israel will keep going. And so if you're like a person who thinks that you

01:12:45.480 can get Israel to abandon its sons and daughters to the great slaves, to be, to be, for the rest of

01:12:51.220 their lives likely, if they don't get them back, Israel's not going to do that. Israel, it just

01:12:55.780 won't. Like, like there's no way that a country could accept that degree of indignity or a people

01:13:01.540 could accept that degree of indignity. And with that being the case, this war is going to continue

01:13:06.080 until that ends. I say this not because it's logical or fair or anything like that. There's a

01:13:11.620 huge difference between losing your kid as a collateral casualty in a war or something like that.

01:13:16.660 You know, knowing one of my kids died that way and knowing one of my kids was actively tied up

01:13:21.080 in a cave, being used as a grape slave. And that was likely the fate that they were going to suffer

01:13:26.000 for the rest of their lives if we didn't go through with this. And I'm not saying it's fair. I'm not

01:13:30.200 saying it's fair that if you say, oh, Malcolm, you've already killed 50,000 people to save your

01:13:34.900 one kid. Like, are you going to stop now? Like, I'd be like, no, it wouldn't even cross my mind.

01:13:39.700 And I think while there's a few cultural groups, like maybe urban monocultural people wouldn't feel

01:13:43.200 that way. I think the vast majority of parents on earth would feel that way. And they'd feel that way

01:13:47.820 about their kin as well. Like my cousins, my extended family network as well. If I knew that

01:13:52.180 one of their kids was tied up in a cave being used that way and would be for the rest of their

01:13:56.180 lives, if I didn't make a point to save them, everything would be on the table for me. And

01:14:00.460 that's what I mean when I say, if you actually care about stopping this, regardless of what you

01:14:03.640 think of Israel, the only way to do it is to free the hostages. And so I think if you're talking

01:14:07.940 about like international pressure of what you actually care about, it's the people of Gaza and not

01:14:11.440 getting rid of the Jews. This is what is often the case if among like the base population in these Arab

01:14:15.960 countries, which is why they care less about the destruction in Gaza and more about, yeah,

01:14:19.680 but let's just keep this going. Right. Like Iran wants, right. The way that you end this is by

01:14:24.660 putting pressure on Gaza to release the refugees, the hostages. Yeah. But Gaza is not going to do

01:14:30.460 that. Gaza wants this conflict. Gaza. Yeah. Well, and, and, and, and Israel does, and Hamas loses this

01:14:37.300 reason to be in power if it doesn't, if it doesn't keep the conflict going. I mean, I also get the

01:14:41.820 impression that, you know, they're being funded again by these countries that are using them as

01:14:46.900 a cudgel that don't care about their safety, their ability to thrive. Well, they don't see them as

01:14:51.360 fully human. I mean, I, I can, one of the things that people really misunderstand about Muslims is

01:14:56.220 Muslims often see other Muslims with huge variations in degrees of humanity. Well, do you think it's kind

01:15:01.820 of, I mean, you're describing a worse situation than what we encountered in Latin America in terms of

01:15:06.700 just like, we don't like this, this idea of Latinx or Latino? No, no, no, no, no. It's way bigger. So

01:15:13.080 if you talk about, we've, we've talked about how Latin Americans will, they're not, they don't see

01:15:17.820 themselves as Latin Americans. They see themselves as Peruvian or Ecuadorian or between different

01:15:23.140 countries. They'll be like, how dare you think I'm like Colombian or something like the Colombians

01:15:26.640 are like whatever stereotype or whatever. That is not what you get. I've heard words like cockroaches

01:15:31.900 used to describe other countries' populations and stuff like that. I mean, I would never hear

01:15:37.160 that from a Latin America. No, no, no, no, no, no. You sound like a Cuban. Yeah. But it wouldn't say

01:15:43.800 they're cockroaches. Yeah. It's, it's, it's not dehumanizing. It's more like team sports.

01:15:48.380 Right. Within Muslim countries, that is not the case. Even if they may believe they have a shared

01:15:52.700 cause, many of them believe that they are quite superior to the others. Well, that's, so yeah,

01:15:57.020 what's, what's so screwed up is that the countries that are most monetarily and logistically supportive

01:16:02.960 of Hamas and Gazans are those that are literally hurting them the most. They're just using them as

01:16:10.460 weapons. They don't care. That's so screwed up. Well, the Gazans don't care that they don't care.

01:16:16.280 If you look at this woman who's dancing because her kids died, like this is the way they, they're like,

01:16:21.340 oh, well, we're using them as well because they don't understand that we, this is our easy pass to

01:16:25.680 heaven. I don't like this. They see, and this is literally the way they see it. They see incite

01:16:32.960 conflict, get killed, get into heaven automatically. That's why they want the conflict.

01:16:39.960 So their lives are not, not quite. And then what you're getting is like a twisted version of this

01:16:44.140 that's coming through like Western media that's meant to like play to Western sympathies. Well,

01:16:47.800 then, I mean, it's the leftist hope that like, I mean, I think the leftist hope is we, we save the

01:16:52.420 Gazans and then we basically colonize them with our leftist culture. Cause I mean, obviously,

01:16:57.180 you know, the long game wouldn't be them just letting them be as they are. Then they wouldn't.

01:17:00.960 No, because they don't believe, they believe that because they're like a Brown culture or a BIPOC

01:17:05.260 culture, they don't need, like, they're going to say like, oh, that's not the long, come on. You

01:17:08.680 know the truth. I know that's not the long game. The long game is to erase all of their cultural

01:17:11.640 opportunities. But they don't actually plan to do that in the near future. Yeah. It'd be great

01:17:17.460 if that was the near, this is one of those places in which I'm like, okay, let the urban monoculture

01:17:21.900 erase this. If you want to see another instance where we ended up feeling this way, it was when

01:17:26.200 Pakistan's primary religious authority voted that it was Islamophobic to ban child marriages. And

01:17:32.360 this is a country where kids are regularly married at the ages of six or nine. Like this is, if you,

01:17:37.420 if you're okay with your kids, I, all right. Okay. What do you want for dinner?

01:17:47.080 Well, you've got some miso soup in the fridge. I can do miso and gyoza if you want.

01:17:51.480 Yeah. Miso. I'm open to like solid foods again. So a little bit of gyoza, not many, like four,

01:17:57.740 four max. Yeah. Okay. Four gyoza. And I'll probably eat like two. And miso.

01:18:02.820 And miso, but not as much, maybe just no, no tofu. Oh, like four little chunks. Like four

01:18:09.960 little chunks. Yeah. I was trying to give you more protein yesterday. I know you're like,

01:18:14.480 I don't need that much. You do need protein though. Now. Oh God forbid our audience here that you eat,

01:18:20.640 you consume soy products. Oh no. Anyway, I will start your engine and. Oh my God. Hang in there.

01:18:33.820 I love you. Actually, why don't you just do one of the beef gyozas and then two of the vegetable

01:18:38.240 gyozas. Oh, now we're up to five. Oh, okay. No, no. Just one beef, two vegetables. That's three.

01:18:43.600 Oh, just three. Oh, I thought you said three. Okay. All right. One beef, two vegetables.

01:18:48.760 That few. Okay. Okay. Do you want me to bring them up to your room so you can nap?

01:18:53.100 No, no, no. I'll come down and eat with you guys tonight. You sure? Cause I'm, you're,

01:18:56.820 you're still looking a little greener on the gills.

01:19:01.040 Am I? Yeah. I'll get through it. Okay. I love you.

01:19:05.820 Glad to see you. I love you too. Are you still feeling the fatigue or is it mostly gone?

01:19:11.440 It's just that all of a sudden I'll get super tired. So I basically have periods where I'm

01:19:17.100 feeling fine. And then after about two and a half hours of working or doing something,

01:19:21.000 I have to crash out. So that's, that's where I am in recovery right now. By the way, I love this

01:19:28.040 article. What, what newspaper was this in? The Atlantic? Which one? The Atlantic that they talked

01:19:33.720 about. I love your quote here. If I spend an afternoon with the kids, the house is cleaner

01:19:38.040 than it was before. The kids are all well-behaved. They're fed. They're all dressed.

01:19:41.840 They look neat and tidy. She told me if Malcolm spends an afternoon with the kids, I come home,

01:19:47.800 they're naked. Their faces are smattered with candy smudges. Many women, she said, don't accept this

01:19:53.160 anarchic brand of dad parenting. So they cut back and do the work themselves. If we revise that and

01:19:58.880 made it more normalized to have kids that are more chaotically parented in a more chill way, she said,

01:20:03.640 I think women would be more comfortable not leaning out. I think it's true.

01:20:10.480 Yeah. Well, no, it is, it is, it is true, but I love your description of, of me as a parent.

01:20:16.200 Just to be fair, our children just really love taking off their clothes.

01:20:21.980 Yeah. And I don't put them back on. I'm just like, I'm going to get sick or something. I keep

01:20:25.920 their underwear on generally. You don't bother to like constantly wipe their faces. And I don't know

01:20:30.480 what is up with Titan, but she just can't seem to eat food without like distributing it.

01:20:35.240 You don't give them candy either. I bet there was dad and it's candy time all the time.

01:20:40.020 Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is.

01:20:43.240 Woo. RFK would just shoot you on site, drive a stake through your heart. Thank goodness you.

01:20:51.640 I am a child who grew up in the nineties. I understand the value of fruit rollups and

01:20:55.960 Dunkaroos. You, my friend do not. We literally walked down grocery, grocery store aisles. And

01:21:01.480 you're like, our children need these things. You're, you're like the equivalent of a, an almond mom

01:21:06.160 or crunchy mom, but like with the opposite things, like they're not getting enough processed food.

01:21:14.460 Where's the red dye number 40? I am, you know, the old Nickelodeon zones and everything like that.

01:21:20.180 That is my understanding of nutrition. It's like, they need to have more, more slime. They need to

01:21:26.480 have more Go-Gurt. Yes. Go-Gurt. Does Go-Gurt even exist anymore? I don't think so.

01:21:32.600 No, I wouldn't give them Go-Gurt. That's too close to yogurt.

01:21:35.720 Oh God. I wouldn't give them Lunchables or something. Simone, we're talking about like

01:21:40.700 Gushers here. Come on. We're talking about like the good stuff. Come on.

01:21:45.100 I don't know. I feel like because Feastables became a thing that Lunchables must have been

01:21:49.240 more beloved than Gushers. To be clear. Gushers are still around, sweetheart.

01:21:54.560 Oh, they just, they never went out of style, right? They never went out of style.

01:21:58.360 No. Because Gushers are delicious.

01:22:02.380 What? I'm just like toasty. I refuse to eat candy.

01:22:06.820 You know, one of our kids refuses to eat candy. I want real food.

01:22:10.500 Yeah. But he wants to unwrap it. He wants to unwrap the candy and then just throw it away.

01:22:15.660 Oh yeah. He wants to unwrap it and then give it to his siblings.

01:22:17.640 Yeah. Remember, you got to get a video of him doing the, I want real food.

01:22:22.680 So that when he becomes and starts his food company, he can call it real food.

01:22:26.140 Real food. Yeah. That's, that's going to be, yeah, his, his business.

01:22:30.300 Real food. Yeah.

01:22:43.860 Real food.

01:22:44.320 Real food. No food. No.

01:22:46.620 Real food. No food.

01:22:48.380 No food. No food. No food. Yes.

01:22:49.160 Real food. No food. Most food. No food. No food. Yes.

01:22:51.420 Real food. No food. No food. No food. No food. No food.

01:22:56.220 And a food in for sure.avi, no food. No food. deploy the Wolves.

01:22:58.080 Yes.

Based Camp - June 18, 2025

＂The March to Gaza＂ Woke Imperialism： A Detailed Retrospective

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