00:00:21.060Because if you were to go to me five years ago, right?
00:00:25.100Even five years ago, I mean, imagine 10 years ago
00:00:27.080and you're like, okay, so who are like the right wing0.63
00:00:28.840thought leaders on the internet and it's like well the one we've got on now is a jewish vtuber
00:00:35.500who used to do hentai reviews and then we've got fox girls we've got like five fox girls and i'd
00:00:42.060be like are they furries i'd be like no they're not furries but they are fox girls and then we've0.75
00:00:46.700got like this slime girl it's very important that you know that she's a chimera slime then we've got0.83
00:00:52.020commie mommy yes simone am i not coming through no no just elf and slime girl like it's elf oh0.93
00:00:59.680yes you gotta get it right so call me mommy and the people would be like well she can't actually
00:01:02.620be like a socialist i know she's actually a socialist and she's well liked within our
00:01:07.000community and then it's like and then you got the top of the the pack and it's this guy who lives
00:01:11.300like a homeless guy and i say to myself i'd be like lives like a homeless guy how does he not
00:01:16.360have any money it's like oh no he has tremendous amounts of money tremendous amounts but it's so
00:01:21.780weird this sort of world and it's a path that is not like we we in the past have tried to trace it
00:01:31.040from like the early online atheist communities to like the anti-feminist communities then to like
00:01:37.780the anti-woke communities and then to the modern right and then it sort of like combined with parts
00:01:42.400of the red pill but you represent a different strand which comes out of the anime degen 4chan
00:01:49.720world which we also come from as well and i wanted to take this to sort of explore this journey you
00:01:55.980as one of the leading content creators who sort of lived it and how your mind changed in the
00:02:02.060various points you had major inflections yeah no it's it's definitely a weird a weird area on the0.87
00:02:09.600internet for sure i don't know for me it was for me it was like wow i like making fun of retards0.89
00:02:15.940and most of the retards are in politics we have to start doing that i mean that was that was kind0.96
00:02:21.500of the thought process among other things for sure i mean i have to say one of my biggest1.00
00:02:25.200inspirations was asan piker shocking his dog that was that was huge for me personally like
00:02:30.820i'm like this guy he's very well accepted in like the the streamer world you know the the pop
00:02:37.240culture and i'm like you know what i i want it to be as uncomfortable for radical leftists
00:02:41.700as for radical right-wingers and that's what i did i dedicated and now no one wants to collab
00:02:46.780with us on you know podcast and no one wants to touch him anymore you know they got obliterated
00:02:52.640for it you did a great job new i mean the jd vance was like oh yeah of course you know the
00:02:58.140dog shocking guy right like cinema it's amazing yeah i actually think i think okay no i think
00:03:06.360putting making the face of the left like you know dog shocking you know womanizing brothel
00:03:12.180enthusiast terrorist supporter that's like the face of the left and it's like you want to be on
00:03:15.960that side so yeah and i love that like on our side you have asmogold who literally i don't know any0.65
00:03:21.920other human who would do this doesn't kill a cockroach growing crawling on him picks it up
00:03:27.420who is that nice to a cockroach who is that pathologically nice and then leaves it outside0.99
00:03:33.160right and Hassan's shocking his dog but I think okay I think I think you're taking the the Asmongold0.98
00:03:39.480thing like uh like loves cockroaches supports like late-term abortions right that's that's
00:03:44.880you know it's you got a lot of interesting characters late-term abortion Asmongold he
00:03:50.620supports abortion a moment before birth he supports it really I did not know that we
00:03:54.880changed our views on abortion significantly recently there was a recent video on that
00:03:58.700really people should watch because it's the craziest video ever it starts with a gangbang
00:04:03.100where like people got together it starts with a yeah basically you know about ayla's birthday
00:04:07.660gangbang right who oh my god so ayla a very famous sex researcher for her birthday one year in like0.99
00:04:15.960in 2024 so a bit ago i think decided to have a gangbang for her birthday because that's how
00:04:21.420one celebrates in certain circles in the bay area with 42 men and one of her friends who helped to
00:04:26.040organizer organizer met her now future husband and a father of her child at this gangbang she1.00
00:04:32.860was a fluffer but she had this really terrible you called her a sexual researcher she is that1.00
00:04:39.980like a nice way to say more like i was trying to figure this out no so she she has probably1.00
00:04:45.460if you've ever seen those data sets of kinks and what they correlate to and like how they1.00
00:04:50.260cross correlate the trans community hates her because she always just says whatever she thinks1.00
00:04:54.020is true we're not promoting her lifestyle but anyway in between in between this party and her0.97
00:05:00.820friend getting married she had this horrible abortion experience that she wrote about that
00:05:04.780radicalized a lot of people like us because before i was like well up until they have neurons i'm
00:05:09.360okay with it and now i'm like no not even then yeah it's so one thing i i hear you guys discuss
00:05:16.380a lot like your philosophy i don't remember you have like a name for it it's like about having
00:05:21.340it's our techno puritanism our crazy religion okay all right can you describe it in a few
00:05:28.680sentences and then i'll i'll let you know my like if this is still part of the previous conversation
00:05:33.580yeah okay okay i'll i'll say it before we go on with this because one thread i want to pick up
00:05:38.900on what you said earlier and then i'll get into this really quickly is you were saying you liked
00:05:43.220making fun of retards on the internet and i think in reality this was what was the through line
00:05:49.880between these various communities if you go back to the very early days where you had the people0.54
00:05:55.060who are now like right-wing influencers who back then were like atheist influencers or whatever0.95
00:05:59.080right they just liked dunking on anyone they could see is stupid and then they started to feel like0.99
00:06:04.380the christians aren't as fun to dunk on as the feminists and then they started to be like0.99
00:06:07.800oh the wokies are the most fun to dump on or the tumblr people and it drove sort of this political0.96
00:06:13.240chain but as for us in our theological beliefs the quickest version is we think that the0.81
00:06:19.980we have a biblically literalist reading of the bible that is materialist and monist
00:06:25.320meaning that we we think that when the bible says in the distant future humans are going to be raised
00:06:31.720again that it's talking about like a super advanced entity in the distant future that is
00:06:37.220all benevolent because humanity keeps evolving a billion years from now and wants to give everybody
00:06:42.020who lived a virtuous life as long of a good life as possible so it resurrects him and we try to go
00:06:47.140through and we're literalist too like we try to take the the go through all the translations and
00:06:51.780show how it could mean this it's crazy i know i think we're succinctly it's it's an accelerationist
00:06:58.820tech forward descendant worship religion that is based on a literal interpretation of the bible
00:07:05.460interesting wow okay so i thought it was a lot more like materialist focused right like you know
00:07:13.440we want humanity to survive so therefore no no i obvious so i think that if you follow the bible
00:07:19.040it'll have the best outcome for your life anyway right so even if you were like the ultimate atheist
00:07:24.800you know utilitarian you should still follow the bible because it'll give you the best lifestyle
00:07:29.300regardless that's one of the things that we did a video recently when i was like being an adult
00:07:34.800is recognizing that sins are just like a list of things that will f up your life it's basically
00:07:40.480like god gave us a list of like you know don't don't cheat on your wife you know don't don't
00:07:46.140have gang bangs don't okay so you know i don't want to i don't want to correct you here anything
00:07:50.800i don't mean to correct there is no bible verse saying don't cheat on your wife okay no there
00:07:55.860isn't because in early Judaism you could have multiple wives and we talk about that you're
00:08:00.100absolutely right but i'm sure there's some line you could take to mean that but the point yeah
00:08:04.180Yeah, you know, don't be, don't be adulterous. I mean, I guess you could, you could read into that.
00:08:07.860Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I actually agree with you on this. We point, we have whole episodes on the, when monogamy became a norm in Judaism, but I don't want to, that's a, that's a tangent. But the point being is like, it's just a bunch of stuff that's going to make your life worse. And it, as an adult, as a kid, I always felt like, oh, sins are things that are tempting. Right. And it's like humanity was given a list of like, don't piss on the electric fence.
00:08:32.500and then immediately like a big portion of us just went immediately and pissed on the electric fence
00:08:37.040because i don't know we're not supposed to do it or something yeah i suppose but yeah no i i agree
00:08:44.260with that i actually think that morals come from there actually you know and and in regards to
00:08:49.600asmongold like i think asmongold's a really honest guy so when when i discuss the whole abortion thing
00:08:55.280why my view has never changed really on abortion is because it says thou shalt not murder in the
00:08:59.760Bible. All right. So regardless, if, if a fetus is a human life, then killing it is murder. So
00:09:05.240therefore it's bad, you know? And yeah. So you've always had these views like all the way back to
00:09:11.520your early days. So even in my early days, yeah, I had these views for sure. I definitely fleshed
00:09:17.340them out. My faith got a lot stronger, but you know, basic stuff like don't murder and don't
00:09:21.840steal are pretty consistent. I think. Well, no, it's, it's very interesting because what I'm
00:09:26.920realizing from this conversation is a big part of the online transition has been people not coming
00:09:33.520to views they didn't have historically but feeling comfortable talking about them exactly exactly
00:09:38.360actually the irony is that you were less at risk of being canceled talking about pure degeneracy
00:09:46.280like metamorphosis like this then saying you shouldn't have abortions 100 that that's the
00:09:52.880thing the entire online space it became super comfortable to hate god and it became super
00:09:58.360comfortable to follow you know if you look at like leftist policy it's like a checklist of what0.98
00:10:03.340satan would tell you to do you know you know abort your babies and groom children and castrate them
00:10:08.660and you know take money from people that earn it and give it to people that don't that's the list
00:10:13.500and look at the toll that it leaves on these people it's not like they're if you look at like
00:10:18.000gdc and you see the people screaming at the sky right like that's not a normal response like that
00:10:23.780is somebody who's had everything good taken from them in their life and it's okay but really define
00:10:28.260normal define normal your your barometer only operates because you have a belief system
00:10:33.840see i define normal and morality based on god all right but but if you view things as well i just
00:10:40.640want a good outcome for the most people what does that even mean what is good in that case
00:10:45.160yeah well i mean i think the the the morality thing that you're talking about here is is
00:10:50.160interesting because by the definitions of society right now you and us are weird because we don't
00:10:55.320follow the the normative cultural ethical set which seems to be highly deleterious to people
00:11:00.900living like fulfilling lives i i agree with you i i think that if you ask your average like liberal
00:11:07.100enlightened liberal what what morality is it's just basically if there's consenting adults it's
00:11:12.120fine. That's their only tenet, basically, because they don't want bad things to happen to themselves.
00:11:17.300It's selfish inherently. They want to be able to live whatever debaucherous lifestyle they could
00:11:21.720come up with, and they don't want anyone to step on them. So therefore, their belief system based
00:11:26.840on this preference is, oh, if everyone consents, it's fine. Well, I think I really like that you're
00:11:32.260drawing attention to this because you can see from this view of consent being the core of morality,
00:11:36.900where we keep seeing leftists get in hot water ideologically one of the episodes we have we go
00:11:43.000over communist regimes and how many of them tried to lower the age of consent to like super low
00:11:47.620ages like 11 or 12 or something like that and some socialist parties did and and the reason is
00:11:53.840is because in reality the reason we don't sleep with children isn't about consent like we allow0.92
00:12:00.260mentally disabled people to have sex we allow elderly people to have sex if you're talking0.98
00:12:05.720about a 15 year old or something like that they have a mental intelligence that's higher than a0.99
00:12:11.48090 year old nobody has a problem when a 90 year old has a sex it's not about consent it's about
00:12:15.940what it does to that person and the effects it has on their life right and i think that we see
00:12:21.520the famous chuck clip where he's like i don't see anything wrong with having sex with an animal
00:12:26.060if you were like the one and have you seen this clip i love that clip you're you mean to tell me0.99
00:12:32.840that the inbred islamist thinks that you can have sex with animals weird yeah funny coincidence no0.99
00:12:38.360you don't have sex with animals because of the negative effects that has on your life and like1.00
00:12:42.060the diseases and all of the other negative but you know what you you bring us to a fantastic
00:12:47.700point because if you forget god for a second try to explain to me under a liberal worldview why you0.50
00:12:53.560should not have sex with an animal you there isn't a good explanation that's what these people are
00:12:59.240realizing oh because they can't consent is that it no obviously not because you can eat meat you
00:13:03.600could literally kill it and eat it yeah but then consent is not the issue like no they
00:13:08.820torture baby's house and even if they're not even if they didn't eat dairy it's irrelevant if it's0.99
00:13:17.680all consent based then what's wrong with having sex with a corpse it's dead it can't consent what's0.81
00:13:22.800a difference that's a good point that is a good point there's no reason it's a progressive
00:13:27.360is it illegal to have sex i don't think so but why why not like there's no consent required
00:13:36.860okay why is incest immoral according to the leftist worldview why is it immoral to have0.96
00:13:41.080you consent and you're silly true i hadn't thought about all of the things this breaks but it breaks
00:13:47.200Yeah, but it is. I think it's because it's rural coded and rural coded is conservative coded. And if it's conservative, it's bad. So incest has to be bad.0.97
00:13:57.500Okay, to be fair, incest happens mostly in like Muslim countries, which is left wing at this point. So like, I don't know, right? No, no, no, like in the leftist mind, no one thinks about the life of someone in a Muslim or Islamic country. They only think in terms of the United States. And then if someone is Muslim or other, they're just good. They're just good.0.87
00:14:17.200trust me i forgot about that so like like i don't know who they are they're better than i am their
00:14:21.200culture is enlightened mine is bad and my extra bad people are the hicks in the countryside who
00:14:27.440screw their cousins so you know but but the point i'm making though is from their logical standpoint
00:14:32.700that as long as everyone consents it's fine there is nothing wrong with this absolutely yeah and0.99
00:14:37.800that's and that's the degradation of every value and look i think that it's bad to have sex with0.97
00:14:42.700your sibling because it says in the bible not to have sex with your sibling god said it actually0.89
00:14:46.960the pretty simple the one thing I found pretty interesting that Simone said there is how
00:14:52.140leftists are not allowed to look at the reality of what it's like in many of these countries
00:14:57.080and I think we see an embodiment of that was Greta Thornburg when she wouldn't watch the
00:15:01.360photo the video that like literally Hamas video yeah just like I don't want to see reality because0.79
00:15:09.380that interferes with the fantasy that I'm living in that was what I completely agree if I think0.97
00:15:16.380okay so i mean there's a bible verse right torah emet in hebrew right that uh the torah is truth
00:15:23.280and or the bible the torah is the old testament so essentially my my perspective is if you are
00:15:30.120going to continue going on your like anti-god path you are going to consistently have an issue
00:15:35.780with truth reality is a major issue if you're a leftist you know men could be women and words
00:15:40.760don't actually mean anything and and islamic countries are really actually based and good
00:15:45.060to gay people and you know and you don't even need to live in reality at this point yeah because
00:15:50.800reality is bigoted so when did you first feel comfortable like explain was there a moment when
00:15:56.340you first felt comfortable saying this stuff or like voicing this so i i feel like i've always
00:16:02.680tried to be honest i've just decided on things that i'd rather not get into because you know why
00:16:07.360like if i'm making anime videos i'm not going to start talking about abortion you know like
00:16:11.920Like, why divide my audience in half by, you know, talking about something that's completely irrelevant to whatever content I'm making is.
00:16:19.660But as time went on, I started talking about, like, internet drama.
00:16:23.060And Hassan Piker, you know, advocates for me to get killed by Hamas terrorists because he says I'm an Israeli Nazi, even though not.
00:16:30.520But anyway, so as time went on, now that I'm talking about politics and things, I feel a lot more comfortable saying the things.
00:16:37.380I've been backstabbed by enough people that I don't really care if you disagree with me.
00:16:41.160that's your american god-given right you know so you were gonna like how much of it was the people
00:16:48.900attacking you for saying things that you thought was reasonable that radicalized you to want to
00:16:53.520say more of that stuff to be honest it's not that they attack me that makes me want to say it it's
00:16:58.860that it's considered inappropriate to say like it is super inappropriate in public in american
00:17:04.860like probably not in like houses and closed doors because everyone would like a lot of people would
00:17:10.240agree with this but if i say that gay sex is degenerate that is considered like a super taboo0.96
00:17:15.540in american that is very true yeah right because it's too consenting adults so what's the problem0.96
00:17:21.960right that's the that's the through line but but so i don't really care if people come after me
00:17:26.300for my opinions it's not acceptable to say yeah oh that is that is really fascinating i mean it's
00:17:34.600very different from us we sort of got radicalized by the left or or radicalized by your channel but
00:17:39.960like it was like us originally going viral over just being like hey birth rates are low
00:17:45.660and then people freaked out about that and they're like well you must be a racist
00:17:49.480yeah yeah because you can't live in reality the thing that changed me the most was like the first
00:17:58.700time i started hanging out in right-wing spaces or going to right-wing conferences and i went and
00:18:02.840i was you know we're you know you're you're not i don't think you've done like a big face reveal
00:18:07.540So you don't get noticed at conferences and stuff like that, but like going to conferences, having beliefs that I know are really outside of a lot of mainstream conservative norms.
00:18:17.020And I was afraid that I would be sort of grilled on them or made to feel like I wasn't welcome or made to feel like an outsider.
00:18:26.660and instead i have felt the exact opposite where when we were in leftist spaces and we even did
00:18:32.800like leftist campaigning politics everything like that it was a constant litmus test and i don't
00:18:38.720think people on the right realize how much our side benefits from being nice to people who did
00:18:44.960things in the past that they regret now or are in the process of changing and still being accepting
00:18:50.820of them do you know my opinion on why that happens among right-wing people but not left-wing people
00:18:56.840yeah give me your opinion that's because i think repentance is inherently a biblical trait and
00:19:04.800forgiveness and repentance only exists if you could believe in god and if you are on the other
00:19:10.080side where it's all about you know we're all just a whole a clump of atoms that are whizzing through
00:19:15.260a point a purposeless space then why ever repent why ever do better why would i assume that you
00:19:21.840regret your mistakes and become a better person i wouldn't so much easier to just throw you in the
00:19:27.740box whereas on the other side which and more right-wing politics obviously it's not not nearly
00:19:33.820conservative enough not man i wish trump was the guy that left thought he was you know yeah right
00:19:38.940actually this is an interesting point in terms of making the lived sort of right-wing parties
00:19:44.780more conservative one of the things that i think a lot of people will in our wider faction are
00:19:48.960annoyed with is in uk you know how progressive even parties like reform or the 80 or afdr in
00:19:55.300germany or you know maga in the united states and how do you realistically shift the overton window
00:20:02.140of what's normal like what's what's your status so i so ultimately every all change takes time
00:20:08.760like every time i see like the the acceleration is speaking like oh we have to vote for leftist
00:20:13.040So they could rape our country and then, and then we'll swing the other way.
00:20:16.100It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.0.94