The NY Times is Now Openly Promoting Eugenics (Eugenics vs. Polygenics)
Summary
In this episode, we discuss the New York Times article "There Has Never Been A Better Time To Be Short" and why short people should only mate with other short people. We also discuss the growing trend of "polygenic selection" in progressive media.
Transcript
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Like, if you take two steps back from all this, it's like, I feel like that meme where they're like, you know, how's it going now?
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You know, and they're like, it's like New York Times promoting eugenics to help the environment.
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You know, we've only done this hundreds of times now.
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So I'm excited to be here with you because I have seen this trend in media recently that just has to be flabbergasted.
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So for context here, Simone and I have gone through, you know, the rounds in progressive media over and over and over again.
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And they hate that we do polygenic selection on our kids because, oh, my God, we believe that humans have genes and certain traits are heritable.
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And that families should have access to the reproductive choices to have kids the way that their culture says is the ethical way to have kids.
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And in a way that nudges those genes in directions that their family values on an individual basis, right?
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And they unceasingly accuse us of eugenics, even though by the definition of eugenics that anyone could agree upon.
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Like, if you look at Wikipedia's definition of eugenics, we are very much against eugenics because, one, we don't believe that there are universally good or bad traits.
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And, two, we are very much against trying to fight for promulgation or suppression of those universally good or bad traits on a society level, right?
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To point it out, like, what we think is every culture and every family should have the right to choose what traits they think are best for their family to optimize around.
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And then as a society, like, the world tests us and determines which families and which groups chose correctly.
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Yeah, but there are different societal, environmental, economic, et cetera, contexts that make different traits useful.
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Yeah, and one of the interesting things that has been a theme to me recently is as soon as the left, like, accepts something that we've been trying to get them to accept forever, it's like, don't immediately, like, run away screaming like you touched a hot stove.
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When you mention something like humans have genes, their first intuition is always to take it to the most insane and evil place humanly imaginable.
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And so the left has finally admitted that some traits in humans may have a genetic component, and the very first thing they want to do is eugenics.
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Like, like, bad eugenics, like, evil state-sanctioned, like, reading programs.
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Yeah, like, you should only reproduce with these people eugenics.
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Yeah, yeah, you should only reproduce with these people because these are the good people and other people are the bad people.
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Like, why can't the left just not be evil for five seconds?
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But anyway, and I'm not talking about fringe left here, okay?
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Yeah, in the New York Times, now that they have realized that humans have genes, they're like, well, short people are better for the environment, therefore, you should only breed with short people.
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And, hold on, so this isn't just like the New York Times.
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So the article in the New York Times that goes over this is there has never been a better time to be short.
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You should mate with short people to fight climate change, expert says.
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There was, you know, yeah, there's been a few articles that have sort of gone over this concept.
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And by the way, nothing against short people, first off, I want to say that.
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Like, there are longevity benefits to being short, there are health benefits to being short, and there are environmental benefits to being short.
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We're not saying, it's the fact that they're taking a eugenic stance on this that we have a problem with.
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In fact, we shared this article on Twitter, and one of our followers pointed out quite cleverly, and this is a very dangerous question to ask,
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which is, wait, but like, what's the difference between like, a short person and like, a thin person, in terms of their environmental impact?
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I know, it's like, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, watch out, watch out.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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We can't talk about what being inclined to rotundities might increase.
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being fat isn't their fault it's genetic i'm sorry sorry i didn't mean to say that because
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if it's genetic then they shouldn't be breeding because they're taking up more they're making
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more carbon emissions here well and not not to mention government health care expenditures i
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mean the burden on governments and the private health care system and private citizens themselves
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hold on hold on hold on there's no a human can't burden the government with expenses what are you
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talking about we're talking about their burden on the environment the thing that matters okay not
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they're not their fellow citizens right but the environment environment and okay how do we get
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out of this new york times how do we get out of this come on let's quick quick find a way fat people
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are a discriminated class therefore but aren't short people discriminated because short people earn
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less money on average and short people get passed on dating markets and yeah dating markets oh they're
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just as arguably a discriminated class but but but okay so here's how short people are different okay
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i figured it out so the left is a predominantly female uh group these days as you see voting
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patterns it's predominantly female and being short as a woman is it discriminatory and as a woman i
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don't value short men i mean they're not really human because i don't want to breed with them
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this is the way that i think a lot of women intuitively actually see men where they're like i don't mind when
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guys hit on me and then it's like they get the ugly guy you know there's that famous meme and they're
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like ah hr because those guys aren't guys they're like these monsters that mope around in society
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and they're like five two and they have on their tinder profile don't dm me unless you're over six
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four or something like ridiculous i think it's very normal for women to just blatantly dehumanize and and
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because the left is they don't see short people as like really people but when you talk about fat
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people well they could be fat i mean their friends could be fat you know and they you know when you
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talk about like progressive women yes they overwhelmingly are often obese but we just keep
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seeing this in our detractors you know it's actually that's a this is an interesting question i i don't
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i wonder if there is a political divide on being overweight in the united states i don't think there
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is because i do think there's a genetic component that just sort of has to do with inhibitory control
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around highly processed foods and it's not yeah okay yeah like i i would guess that there isn't a
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political difference in obesity but maybe this is because i grew up in a really progressive society
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assuming that like you know i was kind of first article i find is democrats are more likely than
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republicans or independents to blame their genetics for obesity yeah i mean yes because external
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opus of control is rampant in progressive culture but i was raised with this like caricature of the
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southern fat republican you know so like i don't know you know i mean like now i'm like i know
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conservatives have the the stereotype of the you know fat obese blue haired progressive so i don't
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know it's really i just think republicans are more frequently overweight than democrats there you go
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yeah oh yeah interesting so so but i see i think that what that has to do is it has to do more with
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urban versus rural culture and then the effect that that can have i think it has to do with poverty
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yeah poverty too probably but i just feel like especially when you live in a city and you are
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walking more places it just makes a huge impact on yeah well no i'm gonna but i think that you know
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the democrats have become the party of the wealthy elite you know downtrodding on the on the common
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working man in this country like it's very clear like they are the party of the of the elite and the
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oppressors and they get in their steps by stomping on the dreams of the rural disempowered well i mean
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they're just so like to me what i like about this this new york times article right where they're like
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okay get short people here as we were talking about how they don't really see short people short men as
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human and this is trying to like nudge them in that direction probably a short like male democrat who's
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like yeah guys please see me as human please breed with me for the environment yeah sex with people
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like me helps the environment he knows he knows his audience i mean it would be it honestly would
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be better though if it were that because then it would be less eugenics and more just like please
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someone just trying to get laid yeah like just just be nice to me please which i i i find a lot more
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charitable than oh here is this superior treat let us all you know make sure that humanity breeds in
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that direction which just really rubs us the wrong way so you know well i i i love this well so so and i
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think we need a different word for when people are looking at this stuff from our perspective right like
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we individually believe family should have a choice and so the word i would promote here is polygenic
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so some people promote eugenics and we promote polygenics polygenics meaning you know you have
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a choice in this and you have a choice in using polygenic screening whereas eugenics is the promotion
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of the belief culture wide of trying to aim towards some large yeah of good genes of just good genes like
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bad genes is whereas polygenics and promoting polygenics is an issue of reproductive rights which is
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just a completely different thing than eugenics and so that's that's what we're pushing here i i
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also think that like we move forward as a society you know you have these two groups like suppose they
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do get their way and they start breeding these short people are we going to go in the opposite
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direction are we going to create like space marines like giant giant custodes like large super
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intelligent chad men or something that'll be like 10 feet tall like genetically pre-programmed like
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double muscled like you have in some of those cows that look like the roid cows
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these hulking brutes of people now the problem is is that right now you know if you're not implying
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polygenic data to to height height does shorten your lifespan which is something simone is pointing
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out so they would have an advantage on lifespan unless you know they're just doing uh old-fashioned
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like super evil eugenics where it's just like well we'll keep these people from breeding
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instead of using polygenic selection which allows you to uh increase health at the same time as
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increasing things like height within some groups but yeah that that's that would be an interesting
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direction for society to go in terms of human speciation the problem is is that what's really
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happening with human speciation and you can see this in the data because it's already happening in
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terms of the bell curve of the different clusters of genetic traits is that obesity you know we were
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talking about obesity is actually being heavily selected for it's other than iq i think the number
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one polygenic score that's most associated with high fertility so what you're likely seeing is and
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and maybe shorter i wouldn't be surprised if shorter so so fatter shorter lower iq group and then this
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other group which is the wealthy the wealthy population where you see within the ultra wealthy
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population you also get higher fertility rates but you see less crossbreeding braterian populations than
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you're used to which within any biological textbook you would call that like if you see a trait and you see
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like a u curve in infertility rates tied to that trait you call that behavioral isolation which is
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different so you have a few types of isolation that can lead to speciation you have things like
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uh what's the word i'm talking i want to say like geographic isolation yeah i think geographic
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isolation which means like a stream occurs between two populations behavioral isolation is like some
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people begin to develop a trait where they really like having sex only at night and then another group
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develops the trait where they really like only having sex during the day and then these two
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groups live alongside each other but they just stop interbreeding with each other and so that's
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that's really what we're seeing happening here right now in humans which is pretty interesting
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but i i'm i just think it's wild that the new york times has gone in this direction and you know
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you're not seeing a backlash you're seeing like republicans laugh at them like ha ha ha but what's
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interesting to me is us who clearly don't have a eugenic position we have a polygenic position but it
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could be seen as eugenic by people who are broadly uneducated and they're just looking for any reason
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to paint us as bad guys that even that slightest hint is used to attempt to smear us in article after
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article and yet mainstream left wingers can go full on like evil eugenics promotion like the most evil
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type of eugenics promotion and i guess he's not promoting government mandates yet but they they can go
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full out and do this and there is no real repercussion for doing it so long as they are
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quote-unquote identified like they're wearing their leftist armor and they're and they're doing these
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evil things to promote the environment well and that's what's so interesting when i i i searched
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the url on twitter to see like what the general commentary was if there was any
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and and most of the it's it's disappointing that most of the commentary was essentially just
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like derision of short people you know like oh how disgusting that like someone would want their
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kids to be short and do things to try to make their kids shorter and like try to choose you know
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like oh short people gross whereas like no one thought to criticize if they were made short by you
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oh yes but supposedly due to this was polygenic screening they they end up just selecting for
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shorter kids and you have to explain especially to your young male kid i made you short for the
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environment little timmy uh no no no i actually think in the article i i have to pull it up
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hold on give me a second where he actually is like limiting his kids dietary options to keep them short
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oh whoa these people are evil well he's an environmental scientist what do you expect right
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sorry i'm trying to find this because i don't want to speak out of turn here i i love when
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progressives decide that they're going to implement eugenics programs instead of going in the duration
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of trying to create like uber minches they're like let's intentionally create spiteful mutants
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let's intentionally like just fuck people fuck up their shit like restrict my children's diet like
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that is so sad but there's another thing that i wanted to go on because there was another article
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it was actually a piece of research that was done recently i mean i was going to do a full episode
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on it but i think this could be a great time to discuss it which is progressives just found out in
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this in this study and and apparently this had not been found before in other studies that it turns
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out that authoritarianism exists on both the right and the left
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intriguingly the researchers found some common traits between left-wing and right-wing authoritarians
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including a preference for social uniformity prejudice towards difference in others
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willingness to wield group authority to coerce behavior cognitive rigidity
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aggressiveness punitiveness towards perceived enemies ostracized concern for hierarchy and moral
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absolutism how did you not see this for 70 years this is the quote here for 70 years lore in the
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social sciences has been that authoritarianism was to be found exclusively on the political right
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the rutgers university social psychologist lee justin who wasn't involved in the new sody told me
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over email so this isn't just the people in the study were like yeah only nobody believed like it was
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believed hypothetically there might be a form of left-wing authoritarianism but science just hadn't
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found it yet and it shows how strongly you have to not be looking like if you're just like a common
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sane person and you're looking at the left you're like wow this movement is blindingly authoritarian but
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not just that when leftist governments gain control and they have disproportionate control
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they go authoritarian always and much faster than rightist governments you know communist governments
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and stuff like that and all of those traits are very obviously like an antifa member to the t like
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antifa which is so interesting to me is they claim to be an anti-authoritarian group and yet every one of
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those groups that they associate with authoritarianism are literally what defines antifa when contrasted with
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more moderate democrats it is an authoritarian group and you look at the tactics they use and they look
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like the tactics that like the nazi brown shirts were using before hitler won the election and stuff
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like that like this gang violence and stuff like that it is horrifying did you find the quote you were
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looking for yeah i did he's even restricted dairy from his son's diets and only allows them minimal
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sugar in an attempt to limit their growth saving them from the ills of height
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damn damn wait but that's something this is something someone tweeted so you don't know if
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it's true yeah it's it's it's hard for me to say because like so she shared the article on twitter
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this person named caitlin flanagan shared on twitter quote he's even restricted dairy from his
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son's diets and only allows them minimal sugar in an attempt to limit their growth saving them from
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the ills of height end quote and then she says anyone else think things are pretty weird around here
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and then she just shared a link to the article so i don't know if the article actually
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no well maybe she got this information somewhere else i wouldn't be surprised but anyway to continue
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is what i'm saying here so the authoritarian stuff is is really interesting to me and that they can be
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so blind to that and i think it really falls in line with what we're talking about on this article
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how the new york times can have this article did in this position in it that is clearly promoting evil
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eugenics and yet they can be completely blind to what they're doing because it is a leftist doing
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it for leftist reasons well but i think the the bigger issue is that progressivism is a sort of a
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moral monolith like there are shared morals and values and so they they quote unquote know what's good
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right they understand what's good and therefore they're not going to question any policy that supports
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what they believe to be good they're not questioning that whereas what has become the conservative
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movement now is really more about cultural sovereignty and and protecting one's right
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to hold one's diversity in the population yeah and so then there there isn't this same
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like oh well this is obviously the morally right thing to do now i would say that the conservative
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movement is sometimes overtaken by subsets that are like this is the morally right or good thing to do
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like with the with the abortion like like legislation shifts though really it could be argued that
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what took place in the supreme court with abortion in the united states was appropriate because it
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allowed for states to exercise cultural sovereignty on a state level by making those decisions at the state
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level which you know perhaps is the right way to go i don't know but yeah i just i think that's that's
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the difference is one when when you believe that you are good and it is your culture to believe that
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you are righteous then you are not going to question the morality of your chosen methods and actions
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whereas if you're just fighting for things like cultural sovereignty or if you have doubts about your
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righteousness or the right way to go you're not going to do it the same way well i think what we're
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seeing here because i don't think the left would have done stuff like this in the past although the fact
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that they never somehow didn't discover after like communist you know communist russia that leftism has
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an authoritarian streak they couldn't find any authoritarian leftists they were unicorns um so
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i mean it shows how blind they've been to this for a while but i think increasingly recently they've
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become so isolated within their intellectual bubbles they have blinded themselves to the idea that any
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any idea within the left could have an evil street to it whereas we on the right i'd say yeah if you're
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going out there and you're pushing some like ethnocentric policy that's evil right like you should
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not allow that to happen now unfortunately from our perspective the left is much more likely these
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days to push ethnocentric policies if they're for an approved ethnicity like the right hasn't
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haven't really had a large and meaningful group pushing ethnocentric policies in like half a century at this
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point but there are groups like i'm not gonna lie there are groups on the right that sometimes
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attempt things like that they they are and i should point out and this is something we constantly point
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out for the 539 poll in the article on this they are not just 538 538 poll they are not disproportionately
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larger than the ethnocentric groups on the left even the white nationalists so as we point out from the
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538 poll and i will never stop mentioning this stat is that until obama was elected more white democrats
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and white republicans said they would not vote for a black president so so the right does have a
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problem with this sometimes but the left also has this white ethnocentrism really deep within it they
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just pretend they don't they're like oh yeah the unions they don't have that problem they've never
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been centers of racism and i feel like that's worse to to never admit to never admit it or believe that it
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was ever a problem yeah i mean they've really twisted the narrative in society which has confused
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people about what's actually going on so much that i think a lot of the the masses are just living in
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this wild distortion field where the left isn't carrying out like a an intentional and and wide
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scale cultural genocide of groups so that it sees as lesser than itself lesser than the urban monoculture
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that they do not see that the left is openly excited about the erasure of not just you know
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domestic cultural groups that are different from it which are usually religious cultural groups
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but the erasure of immigrant culture you know in the article it's another article that we've done a
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piece on i don't know which one's going to come out first where the guy was was talking about from a
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leftist perspective falling fertility rates and he was like well and i really promote immigration and
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assimilation assimilation assimilation is cultural genocide if you're doing it at a large level you
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are saying i want to erase their culture yep whereas i think that what what the the right supports and and
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what i think is the actual correct way to approach immigration is that immigrant groups should immigrate
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insofar as their culture can mesh well within american culture and can add to american culture which i think
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you know hispanic immigrant populations do spectacularly well you know they're these
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traditional tradcast communities with value systems that are very similar to previous irish immigrant
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groups sorry the two previous catholic immigrant groups like i love it so much i'll talk to to some
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people when they're anti-immigration sometimes and they'll be like that the hispanic immigrants are
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coming over with their gangs and i'm like okay every large catholic immigrant group has done this
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whether it was the irish mob or the italian mafia it's just something catholics do i don't know why
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but those two groups have made america stronger not because we erased their cultures but because their
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cultures added to our own you know whether it's our pizza or our pasta or you know these you know when i
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think of a pizza these days like an american style pizza or a detroit style pizza you know this is the
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the fusion of these cultures to create something better because we didn't go out there with the
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goal of erasing their culture when they came to this country and yet now that is the left reason
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detra because they can't replenish this urban monoculture that they've created it has almost zero
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fertility rate they they're getting worse at deconverting people children from the right you know
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they've gone way too far with this education system that they're using to attempt to uh you know
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basically take the children of nearby demographically healthy cultural groups and so they are now shipping
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in immigrants to erase their culture and it is something that is just so sad to see when i talk to
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the parents like immigrant parents and they talk about what has happened to their children you know
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and it is it is really sad to see this loss of cultural identity it reminds me so much of these days
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of the early immigrants you know where they were promised oh you go to america and there's gold
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on the street and everything like that and and these were clear lies that people were using to take
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advantage of them but now these people are told come to america so that your family going forwards can be
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wealthy and be successful and then their kids are mimetically sterilized if not outright castrated
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and taught to hate their parents hate their parents culture to see it as backwards and what makes it extra
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painful is parents are often living much harder lives to enable this you know it's not like their
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their lives are going to be easier immigrating to the united states starting fresh you know in many
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cases you know to get into the united states you have to be a highly qualified person often doctors
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come in and have to completely redo their education like it's it's a nightmare and then all of this is to
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give their kids a better future and then their kids are like no i don't want a future i'm not going
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to have a future i'm not going to have kids i'm not going to you know i'm going to sort of lean back
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from life i'm not going to marry i'm not going to really invest in a lot that was always the plan
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when they say we're taking in immigrants and we need to assimilate them assimilate them to what not
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conservative christian culture not tradcast culture no what they mean is we need to assimilate
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them to the urban monoculture they can still call themselves you know whatever they want they
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can still call themselves muslim if they want they can still call themselves catholic if they want
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they just can't uh deviate from our cultural views on any major issue that humanity deals with
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whether that's morality or gender or sexuality or the way we relate to you know our partners or the
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what we think of the future of our species is the way we relate to our environment you you literally
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can't differentiate from anything but a few token holidays it reminds me of this this this old song
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that i used to love the gap year song oh i'm going on a gap year and he's going around the world and
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he's so he's bragging about all of these different cultures that he's experiencing but he so obviously
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has this deep disrespect from them like he barely sees their cultures as humans and they're just
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and she looked at me with this vacant stare as if to say in spite of our differences you and i
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i thought yeah and then i just thundered everything
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beautiful people patting one of them on that oh my god i can't believe you said that because
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that really reminds me of this time oh my god yeah
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wonderful country you know beautiful people yeah
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um yeah i knew that we were drinking in the andes and the sun was just rising and glinting off the
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snow creating this sort of ethereal haze and i really got a sense of the awesome power of nature
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and the insignificance of man and then i just thundered everywhere
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and that's what they mean when they're like everyone's a hot one wonderful people
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wonderful yes of course now if your parents do deviate from us on any of the approved beliefs we
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are unfortunately going to need to teach you that the fact that they disagreed with us was
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traumatizing to you as a child they are the source of all of your problems you will need to constantly
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give us money at this state appointed psychologists who you will become dependent on because they will
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tell you that the only way to relieve your trauma is continuing to come see them continuing to come
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have your brain they will clean your brain don't worry they'll wash your brain for you and you'll
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feel amazing you'll feel amazing you'll wake up every day i mean obviously statistically you won't feel
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amazing obviously statistically when we look at progressive populations you know over 50 percent
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of uh progressive white women under the age of 30 have a serious mental health issue well but that's
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because they've experienced so much trauma that's another fault at all well the trauma is unfortunately
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being exposed to people who had different views than them often in their childhood and that is of course
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deeply traumatic and progressive culture is just trying to cure it don't you see yeah they're just
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trying to cure the cultures that they're shipping and so are they shipping in these cultures it's
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because they want their children because they can't they can't as easily take children from the
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surrounding groups anymore and it's really really messed up like if you take two steps back from all
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this it's like i i feel like that meme where they're like you know how's it going now you know and
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they're like it's like new york times promoting eugenics to help the environment oh that bad huh
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yikes yikes guys yeah you you are deep in the spiral now i i and and you won't get out of it it's going
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extinct there's nothing i can do you know when we come to them say it's like uh you know no one in the
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ark you know with this fertility rate thing yeah sometimes you go to the unicorns and you're like hey
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get on the ark and they're like fuck you bigot and you're like okay i don't have i don't have the
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patience of noah go off and die in the flood okay we're trying to tell you your fertility rate how
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could you say my fertility rate is too low is that because i'm you know white and it's like no it's
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because of the cultural group you're in just has a desperately low fertility rate and that is the
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urban monoculture which is a multi-ethnic group and it is very very very very very very low fertility
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rate well i don't know about that it sounds like you're telling women that they have some sort of
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duty to society and and that i might have to work for this duty well i mean i think men have an equal
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duty ha you you said it you said it and then and then you point out wait when you say women have a
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duty to society are you saying that when men don't have wombs that there aren't a group of men out there
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with wombs they're like well of course i also need to of course they wouldn't forget that
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women and men with wombs they would say duty to society this whole thing is just getting
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absolutely comical at this point but oh well i'm sure it'll get crazier that's okay
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i love you too have a great day you too gorgeous