Based Camp - The NYC Subway： How Society's Spirit was Broken

00:00:00.000 hello simone i am excited to be here with you today today we are going to be contrasting

00:00:06.720 two recent events which i think do a good job of illustrating the degradation of our society

00:00:13.760 and where we are at as a society right now specifically the instance of daniel penny

00:00:20.000 when he attempted to restrain somebody he saw as a danger on a subway train ended up

00:00:26.000 accidentally killing them and then had his life at risk as a result of this but was recently freed

00:00:31.760 thankfully and then the other instance in which a person lit a woman on fire on a train multiple

00:00:38.960 people took video of this video wait people recorded this happening but they didn't extinguish

00:00:46.800 her women's burning to death stop didn't try to save her flipped out their phones a police officer 0.86

00:00:51.600 a police officer walked by did nothing no one is facing any consequences for this and how do you

00:00:59.360 find with respect to the charge of criminal indifference we find the defendants guilty

00:01:11.760 your callous indifference and utter disregard for everything that is good and decent has rocked the

00:01:20.240 very foundation upon which our society is built so this isn't just that they didn't apprehend the

00:01:28.720 the immolator they also didn't stop the immolation what on earth you you in our society right now if you 0.67

00:01:38.560 interfere if you try to help if you try to do anything you will be punished for it it's what is

00:01:44.240 being taught to people that is what is in the in the center of urban monoculture that is manhattan

00:01:49.840 that is what the urban monoculture says don't try you compared it to the marshmallow study and

00:01:57.200 a lot of people like that comparison i'll compare it to learned helplessness okay right so for people

00:02:03.600 who aren't familiar with learned helplessness there was this experiment the psychological experiment done

00:02:07.440 was mice and rats where if you put a mouse or rat in like a bowl of let's say water right and there's

00:02:17.200 nothing in there and and they they learn that they're not going to find any sort of an edge to this bowl

00:02:23.680 of water right and then you put another set of them in a bowl of water that has like a little platform

00:02:28.480 underneath it and part of it so eventually they can find something to stand on to save themselves

00:02:32.960 yeah the ones that were in the water that didn't have this platform they'll give up really quickly

00:02:40.160 when you put them in water and just drown whereas the ones with the platform will keep trying for a

00:02:46.160 very long period of time and this is learned helplessness so they'll like jump from the platform

00:02:51.760 to the edge of the bowl again to try to get out or they'll just no what i'm saying is that if the

00:02:56.160 previous times they were put in the bowl and there was a platform somewhere in the bowl okay even when the

00:03:01.440 platform isn't there they keep trying oh because society needs to convince us to stop trying yeah

00:03:08.640 we have to have a reason to believe that there's a way out but anyway uh i want to go over these

00:03:15.280 instances and talk more about how deeply disturbing that this is where we are as a society that you

00:03:22.320 potentially are punished by having your life taken away from you by trying to save other people

00:03:27.520 but you can sit there and film somebody burning to death i would no risk to you just doing nothing

00:03:33.200 and the internet doesn't even care to vilify you doesn't even care to dox you nobody cares because

00:03:41.360 that's expected behavior yikes so debrina kawam a 61 year old woman from toms river new jersey was the 1.00

00:03:52.400 victim of this horrific attack she was believed to be homeless and was sleeping on a stationary f train

00:03:57.520 at the coney island stillwell avenue station in brooklyn when the incident occurred the attack in

00:04:02.400 december 22nd 2024 around 7 30 sebastian zabedo calli a 33 year old man allegedly approached the

00:04:09.920 sleeping kawam and set her on fire using a lighter the attack was seemingly unprovoked and the suspect and

00:04:16.320 victim were believed to be strangers and are believed to be strangers he basically did it for

00:04:21.120 fun because he was drunk it later came out now i will also note here that this individual who did

00:04:27.040 this had been kicked out of the united states as an illegal immigrant under trump and had come back

00:04:32.240 into the united states under biden's oh no oh oh oh horrifying this is this is this is what happens when

00:04:42.240 you allow for loose borders so yeah of course borders not not a great idea bystanders in police response

00:04:49.200 the incident has sparked outrage due to the apparent lack of immediate intervention from bystanders and

00:04:53.760 police officer present at the scene bystanders video footage shows at least three bystanders

00:04:59.040 looking on as the victim was engulfed in flames some individuals were seen filming the incident rather

00:05:04.000 than offering help a police officer nypd officer was seen on video walking past the burning woman

00:05:10.880 raising his hands as if unsure how to respond this has led to criticism and questions of

00:05:15.440 proper emergency response protocols of also basic humanity

00:05:22.240 jeez the suspect and by the way people who don't know people have been like oh it looks like she was

00:05:27.440 on drugs or something from what we have seen this is not the case she was just asleep and what is

00:05:32.000 going to happen if you wake up engulfed in flames like you're you're going to be confused so obviously

00:05:37.920 she's confused if you woke up in the middle of the night involved in flames you would be confused as

00:05:42.480 well so it appears that he just lit someone on fire so who was asleep okay so the suspect he is an

00:05:48.960 undocumented immigrant from guatemala who had previously been deported in 2018 but re-entered

00:05:54.240 the united states illegally he was arrested hours after the attack when a group of high school students

00:05:59.040 recognized him on another train and alerted authorities he reportedly claimed to have been

00:06:03.120 drunk and unable to remember setting the woman on fire despite identifying himself in the photos

00:06:08.240 and the surveillance video of the incident wow so this is somebody who was known as dangerous who had

00:06:14.480 been deported and the left is just like let them in not demonize they're like you can't demonize

00:06:19.200 immigrants over this but an immigrant did do it and an immigrant that we knew to deport did do this

00:06:24.880 not a great look yeah

00:06:26.240 not a great look but also the the there were at least three people just sitting there watching

00:06:33.120 flipping out their phones as this happened if you have time to film someone being lit on fire you have

00:06:39.920 time to find some kind of blanket or material to throw over them to extinguish the fire yeah that's what's

00:06:48.000 so sobering they're also around any station typically break glass to get water hose out

00:06:56.800 yes there should have been fire hoses all over the place it would have required a trivial amount of

00:07:00.880 work to find a fire hose not a fire hose but a fire extinguisher in a new york subway station yeah

00:07:08.320 nobody got up nobody even looked nobody even tried i'm so confused by this anyone try well there might

00:07:16.320 have been a chilling effect from something that happened a year before this is the daniel pinney

00:07:20.800 case the daniel pinney case involved a fatal incident that occurred on the new york subway station

00:07:26.480 on may 2023 according to witness accounts jordan mealy boarded the f train and began to shout that he

00:07:34.720 was hungry thirsty and needed a job repeatedly screamed that he was quote-unquote ready to die

00:07:40.240 and not afraid of going to prison he removed his jacket and threw it on the floor some witnesses

00:07:45.680 reported that he was throwing trash at their passengers and approaching people so he was

00:07:49.840 throwing things at people and making quote-unquote half lunge movements and came within half a foot

00:07:55.440 of some people according to passengers oh gosh he had a extensively troubled past he had an extensive

00:08:03.120 criminal record including 42 prior arrests how do you have 42 prior arrests there should be like a 10

00:08:08.000 arrest women in jail for the record listen i mean we've had other episodes where we talk about this

00:08:14.960 that like a very very small percentage of the population commits a sobering percentage you know

00:08:21.760 like yeah it's something like like 300 people in new york are responsible for like 20 of all the crimes

00:08:25.840 like yeah yeah because they just keep letting them go yeah and i guess you know jordan neely seems to

00:08:31.200 have been one of those individuals yeah now these charges incurred larceny theft and assault and so

00:08:39.520 it's like oh assault they seem to bury that one in a lot of the newspapers so it's like what are these

00:08:44.480 unprovoked assault cases okay oh had a 2001 assault in which he attacked a 67 year old woman she suffered a

00:08:54.960 broken nose a fractured orbital bone bruising and swelling at the back of her head there was a 2019

00:09:02.160 assault in which he attacked a few different people in june how how did he even attack multiple people

00:09:08.480 in the same year on the subway you should not be out of jail within a year if you were attacking people

00:09:13.280 on the subway he attacked filmen castillo bazar a 68 year old man seems to really love attacking old

00:09:19.360 people on the and the victim reported he was punched in the face without provocation and then

00:09:25.920 in another instance he broke a victim's nose that year and then he felt guilty to another misdemeanor

00:09:32.880 assault in another instance oh and he also exposed himself to a female stranger on the subway so you

00:09:39.600 know likely to commit sexual assault and stuff like that and then if you look at the public like what

00:09:44.000 did they hear they're like oh poor michael jackson impersonator who had had mental health

00:09:49.200 problems linked to the trauma of his mother's death when he was 14. it's like that was decades ago

00:09:58.160 what are you on about how did that excuse his current actions when

00:10:05.840 no how could this happen where did society go wrong how could the system fail this poor man

00:10:14.960 if only he'd had a better school do you want some hot cocoa huh the cause of injury seems to be

00:10:25.920 socioeconomics most likely an underfunded library that's it

00:10:30.880 what are you on about how could the system fail this poor man you shot this beautiful man for no reason

00:10:40.080 she's evil incarnate he was stabbing murderer murderer he was expressing himself nothing i think we're

00:10:51.200 allowed to to have conversations about providing better resources and mental health support or whatever to

00:10:58.720 young people and to people in need but also to not excuse this behavior like there's you can have

00:11:05.040 both you can be empathetic and you can take care of people and you can also make sure that people are not

00:11:10.880 putting more people at risk i mean what new trauma is being caused by this person who's out just like at

00:11:17.440 large hurting other people oh no you you nearly beat an old woman to death let's see if you should be 1.00

00:11:24.480 tried oh no it appears your mother died you're yeah everyone's fucking mother what are you how is 1.00

00:11:29.600 this even a traumatic event right it appears your mother died okay well we're not gonna you know and 1.00

00:11:35.280 there's this skip from freedom tunes i think goes over this very well which is to say that we as a society

00:11:41.280 almost pathologically are unable to see people who are in hard spots in life or in a worse situation

00:11:48.800 than someone else in life as the perpetrator of a crime this is the entire mindset of the left whether

00:11:54.640 it's in how they view hamas and israel whether it's how they view this instance whether it's how they view

00:11:59.920 any instance if somebody is in a worse situation than somebody else they cannot be victimizing the

00:12:07.920 other individual this is how you get instances where people are you know chasing down jewish kids on campus

00:12:13.920 and they're trying to barricade themselves in libraries and stuff like that the the level of

00:12:19.200 insanity within this mindset cannot be overstated but the downstream psychological effects on society

00:12:26.000 also can't be overstated i'd love it if you could talk a bit to this well this also shows a a very

00:12:32.400 disturbing lack of intellectual depth that you can have you know a truly victimized and hurting population

00:12:39.680 and that that same victimized and hurting population are in turn hurting a lot of other

00:12:44.640 people like these two things can exist together and we if we cannot have conversations about these

00:12:50.720 complex things if we are only capable of reducing things to this is the victim that we have to protect

00:12:56.800 and this is the evil aggressor and this is the hero if we can only speak in these really simplistic ways

00:13:03.360 we will never be able to address the world's wicked problems and i'm not even saying solve because

00:13:08.400 some wicked problems are impossible to solve in a single generation but we cannot even begin to 0.97

00:13:13.360 ameliorate their their their problems we're only exacerbating them or reducing them to this level

00:13:18.720 so it's it's it a lot of this stems from this incapability of us to have nuanced conversations

00:13:24.320 that i think people used to have more in the past well i mean i think that there's a few things to

00:13:29.760 note here and it's a few different camps of like psychological tricks that they're pulling on you one is

00:13:33.920 is that good actions actions that are for the net good of society and humanity sometimes hurt the

00:13:42.080 dispossessed yes people who have less whether it's less mental capacity or uh genetic propensity towards

00:13:49.200 you know impulsive behavior that can lead to a degree of criminal actions but like this individual was

00:13:55.200 clearly somebody who is both mentally struggling financially struggling in an ethnically you know

00:14:01.040 unfavorable position i guess in regards to society your people could argue that who needed to be in

00:14:06.240 a facility his entire life or in some other way removed as a player from public life much much earlier

00:14:13.840 than happened to him it was clear that he was an ever-present danger to everyone around him and the

00:14:18.720 individual who restricted this person based on his past behavior given that he gave a 68 year old woman

00:14:24.880 like a fracture in the back of her skull like he was going to kill someone eventually this individual

00:14:31.280 saved a life almost certainly uh this reminds me a lot of the park slope man who killed the dog

00:14:39.840 where there are just these very dangerous people who have frequent records of assaults or

00:14:46.960 putting people making people visibly uncomfortable being jailed multiple times threatening people

00:14:52.480 regularly and lurking around and there's just this kind of this collective understanding that

00:14:57.760 well you know until they murder someone we we can't really do anything yes let's not wait till somebody

00:15:04.080 is a murderer to put them away i think it's very frustrating too for people like policemen who

00:15:11.520 i mean okay so you mentioned that the policeman who walks by in this footage of the woman being

00:15:15.760 set on fire throwing up his hands i i feel like that's symbolic of a lot of people

00:15:21.040 is he's been taught not to well yeah it's like what do i feel like great what am i supposed to do

00:15:27.040 now right like you know once again i'm i am going to be demonized for not doing anything but if i do

00:15:33.440 do something i'm going to get in a lot of trouble or i'm going to have no he could have looked for a

00:15:37.680 fire extinguisher this yeah these people can look this this incident showed that what he understood and

00:15:43.760 what the other passengers understood is there are no societal consequences for not helping that's true

00:15:48.640 that's true like the one thing that you're allowed to do is nothing take out your phone and film it

00:15:55.920 taking out your phone and filming yeah yeah there's that but oh that's so bad because the society that

00:16:01.040 thrives is the one that says if you see a mess no matter who made it you clean it up if you see

00:16:07.040 something broken no matter who broke it you fix it like that is the society that thrives and that's

00:16:12.640 that's what we always try to we've always tried to make this a culture of any company that we've

00:16:16.640 been associated with or run you know if you see a problem it's your responsibility how much you

00:16:21.360 struggled in the early days of acquiring our company explaining to people it doesn't matter

00:16:25.360 if you created the problem if you spot it fix it it doesn't matter if you spilled the milk

00:16:30.000 you know and this is something that growing up culturally was taught to both of us it doesn't

00:16:33.680 matter who created the problem all problems are your responsibility and you're the only one willing

00:16:38.960 to do anything about it yeah so many people have asked us that like why are you trying to solve

00:16:42.720 this problem in society why are you trying to solve this problem that's something i'm like

00:16:46.080 no one else is doing it yeah yeah that's why now like now the whole thing is i don't know i feel

00:16:54.000 you remember with the dc metro if you see something say something yeah i think the london and the london

00:16:59.760 underground also has those messages now it's just talk about it and i think that's the same thing

00:17:05.200 that's happening with the way that we're raising children it's if you see something say something

00:17:09.120 appeal to authority complain talk about it but don't take it into your own hands don't

00:17:14.080 fight back don't punch back don't don't build new rules you know just appeal to authority you know

00:17:19.520 upload it to social media record it submit a complaint talk to the manager you know like

00:17:23.360 we're being turned collectively into at best karens at worst like faceless npcs i mean like this is

00:17:33.680 this is a scenario in which being a karen is almost a point of pride because at least they're doing 0.92

00:17:37.360 something you know like what on earth how has it come to this this is so bad well how has it come

00:17:43.440 to this is how it comes to this this is how it comes to this is is people like daniel penny that

00:17:48.480 anyone and that the media the legacy media they acted like he was a villain they're like white person

00:17:54.640 kills black person black person protected class he's a villain they didn't consider this guy's past

00:18:01.280 actions well i mean and we saw this again you know you you keep seeing this like there's a thing 0.99

00:18:06.640 right you know like obviously this person was a villain right like he he would have hurt somebody

00:18:12.000 eventually and yet police officer bad guy there's no nuance here and but all of society has been 0.95

00:18:19.040 trained on this if white person kills black person it's very much like the old lynch bombs oh you you 0.98

00:18:25.440 convince you random black person even if it was in self-defense killed white person oh random black 0.99

00:18:31.440 person even if it was consensual slept was white person you know time to get the lynch mob ready 0.92

00:18:35.760 and this is what happens when you build racial hierarchies and why racial hierarchies are evil

00:18:43.280 and and i cannot i mean daniel penny was just a lynch mob it was just a traditional lynch mob did you

00:18:49.200 think if that if jordan neely was white do you think that this would have played out this way nothing

00:18:55.760 totally different if jordan neely was white me like everything is exactly the same even the michael

00:18:59.920 jackson personality like all that nobody would have given a flying yeah yeah and you know it you know it's

00:19:07.440 true no one would have cared well or or maybe daniel penny would have been seen as a hero no but no but

00:19:13.600 no if it let's just switch the races if if jordan neely was jordan neely was white and daniel

00:19:20.480 daniel was black he would have been a hero by mainstream media standards i don't know

00:19:26.480 oh come on have you heard of a single incident no and i mean a single incident in media in which 0.85

00:19:33.760 a black person killed a white person and was by mainstream media painted as a bad guy in the last

00:19:40.000 five years i almost feel like now okay what is my subconscious saying to me right now it's saying 0.93

00:19:47.120 that homeless crazy and dispossessed people are kind of this new untouchable like i'm talking about 0.86

00:19:54.720 the indian caste in the united states but in this really weird way like that they're untouchable 1.00

00:20:01.600 both because they disgust us but also because in some way they're like this

00:20:06.560 protected class that will poison us through reputational damage if we have any association

00:20:12.400 with them whatsoever and therefore like people aren't going to make you a hero for stopping

00:20:19.840 them from doing bad things they also aren't really going to make you a hero for working really closely

00:20:24.800 with them because i think you're wrong about this i have i have regularly seen progressives brag about

00:20:29.920 talking hanging out with homeless people engaging with homeless people i you know the last time

00:20:35.600 that i came across someone who proudly and openly did work with homeless people and this was actually

00:20:42.560 really cool work what he did was work with homeless people to re-establish ties with their actual

00:20:48.880 original communities and support networks yeah so like hey well let's reconnect you with your parents

00:20:54.160 with your brother with your whatever like sort of like because they just lost touch with a lot of their

00:20:59.360 basically true family and larger kin support networks and by re-establishing those ties they were able

00:21:07.600 to get these people jobs again homes again like back on their feet and this is one of the more 0.79

00:21:12.800 consistent and and and proven ways to oh it actually helped people let me get you with a conservative

00:21:18.640 i don't remember i i didn't like note that in my notes with when when i spoke with him but that is

00:21:25.840 actually i think a really interesting thing is that you know in the end the thing that could save us all

00:21:30.240 is returning to community returning to kinship networks that's who's i mean the police aren't going to do

00:21:36.480 that the the urban monoculture specifically works to break up kinship networks through like trauma

00:21:42.800 ideas but here was this guy trying to do what he could to to do it but i would say again that was

00:21:47.840 that was that was i think 2019 when i met him actually that's the last time i heard of someone

00:21:54.080 proudly and openly working with homeless people after that point i have not encountered on social

00:22:02.560 media or elsewhere a single person i'm obviously they're out there yeah they do not talk about it as

00:22:08.720 much as they used to they used to talk about like socializing with them as like a point of pride

00:22:12.560 yeah and remember my startup that i worked at when i first started dating yeah i think in 2019 but

00:22:18.960 again and that's that's what i'm saying in 2020 when when all of this really reached a flashpoint

00:22:26.000 with with the the the riots and like a lot of cases of people either on the edge of homelessness or

00:22:33.040 sort of being in this class of kind of like because a lot of homeless people are homeless because they're

00:22:37.360 mentally unstable and kind of dangerous i do think that there was both this like sacred

00:22:42.480 and untouchable class placed on people in this category that made them

00:22:51.280 toxic in the media and too many people well this would be my thoughts on this i i think that the

00:22:58.400 the way that we deal with this as a society and i just generally think that this is what we should

00:23:03.280 be doing is one we need to develop something that is like the prison system but lower cost to

00:23:10.320 operate for individuals who are less of a risk yeah what you're talking about is is is poor houses

00:23:18.080 like there were in the time of dickens no not like poor houses abuses that took place in those also

00:23:22.800 something maybe in between a poor house and an asylum a lot of these people just have mental health

00:23:26.400 issues yeah and they're like democrats a lot of people know this but they shut down all the asylums 1.00

00:23:30.400 after the book one flew over the cuckoo's desk got popular yeah and then they're like we're gonna

00:23:34.400 create like an alternative to this and they never created they never got around to it and that's

00:23:38.320 where most of the most of the uh homeless population today comes from but if you what we need to do is

00:23:43.440 we need to create a new type of thing that's cheaper to run than a prison because it doesn't require the 0.96

00:23:47.360 same amount of guarding or anything like that and what i would doesn't require the same amount of

00:23:52.000 guarding what no not a poor house a a literal guarded facility this is for anyone who is homeless

00:24:01.680 who commits an assault if they are but i am okay with homeless people existing in this world

00:24:08.240 but i think a different set of rules needs to apply to them if they are assaulting random people well

00:24:14.000 and or maybe shoplifting too like basically if if they're if they are yeah if they're undermining social

00:24:21.120 cohesion and stability then they they yeah

00:24:25.120 i feel like oh my god that creates a two-tiered society for the home havers and the homeless and

00:24:31.760 i'm like whatever fine it would fix a lot of our problems really quickly both for these individuals

00:24:38.000 like do you really want these individuals to keep staying out there until they murder someone or are

00:24:41.600 murdered imagine because you're thinking about this from the perspective the woman who was burned to

00:24:46.000 death was also homeless imagine the women who have to live every fear of being

00:24:50.400 not of being graped by one of these men because we keep letting them out after they have assaulted

00:24:56.560 and exposed themselves to multiple women and everyone knows that no one's going to do themselves

00:25:00.720 do do anything if one of these homeless women goes to these people there there is a reason even 1.00

00:25:05.040 for the protection of the homeless community to be much more draconian in the way we apply rules

00:25:09.680 to the community well yeah in fact a lot of a lot of people who are homeless do not go to homeless shelters

00:25:14.560 because they're so afraid of things being stolen from them they're so afraid of assaults yeah

00:25:20.320 i think if we recontextualize the way that we handle this community i mean we come up with different

00:25:26.480 types of institutions to house them that are not as costly to run as prisons that don't have the

00:25:31.040 oversight of prisons but also help because you've got to there's a number of people like this guy who

00:25:36.960 just like randomly assault people right like there's a reason you can't hire someone who randomly

00:25:41.680 assaults people okay they're the reason you can't hire someone who lunges a few inches from somebody's

00:25:46.480 face or randomly hits old ladies like that's not normal human behavior and yet a portion of the 1.00

00:25:52.480 human population is going to betray this behavior because there's going to be a portion of humanity

00:25:56.480 that is outside this like normal human boundary well what do you do with them right like what do you

00:26:01.920 do with them and and at a certain point you need to say they're like well they should go to a

00:26:06.640 a homeless shelter but what do they don't want to now you've got a random assault maniac on the

00:26:12.320 subway right like yeah you we need to have society that has consequences for allowing yourself to

00:26:20.560 become this type of person and some of these people maybe they they wouldn't have allowed

00:26:25.200 themselves to descend to this level if they had known that society had consequences in store for

00:26:29.760 them but because we live in a society that doesn't we allow for this to proliferate and women get lit 1.00

00:26:36.160 on fire like the women in this community you could not imagine how much like it is it is horrifying to 1.00

00:26:41.440 me the degree to which people don't care when the violence is intercommunity when they are acting

00:26:47.440 violent outside of this community they are doing it within the community tenfold yeah i mean you know

00:26:54.560 you notice that none of these reports came from him beating up a homeless person because nobody

00:26:58.320 cared about those people how many did he maybe you know you don't know because nobody cares

00:27:08.720 so this makes life safer even for the home so what do you think of my my my policy uh that

00:27:15.920 bring back asylums for individuals that specifically and and it has to be demonstrable

00:27:23.200 demonstrable theft or assault for demonstrable theft or assault i would put it a higher level

00:27:28.240 of proof so like you can't just have like a police officer claim it or something like that it needs to

00:27:32.560 be like really really obvious but when you have demonstrable theft or assault a higher level of

00:27:37.360 proof than just reasonable doubt beyond reasonable doubt that the the person just has to live in one of

00:27:42.640 these facilities until they can qualify for exit and that they qualify for exit by not assaulting

00:27:47.760 people for a long period of time in the facility or acting better so it wouldn't act like a normal

00:27:52.160 prison where you're there for like x sentence you're there until it appears you're no longer

00:27:56.720 a threat to society yeah yeah yeah

00:28:01.840 what do you is this too spicy or no it's not too spicy i just yeah i'm i'm thinking about the fact that

00:28:08.240 you know all these people were once kids um and i wish that they had better outcomes in life like

00:28:17.280 people deserve so much better and it makes me sad it makes me really sad that bad things happen to

00:28:21.920 people well i really want good things to happen to people if you're talking about the types of things

00:28:26.320 that can happen at these facilities i do remind you that of adoption the one percent of children who were

00:28:31.840 adopted but from people who parents who had i think it's felonies on their their uh resumes yeah

00:28:40.720 committed 33 of the crimes of all adoptees well this is again like people you know talking about 0.91

00:28:45.920 demographic collapse who are like let's just ban birth control let's just ban like no no we we don't 0.94

00:28:53.840 no we don't need unwanted children we don't need people who do not have their lives together and who are

00:28:59.760 not you know resourced enough to raise kids well and take care of them and love them to have kids 0.99

00:29:04.880 are you insane oh let's just ban condoms no shut up stop go eat a can of tuna and just cheer up 0.99

00:29:16.960 i don't know i don't know what to say go eat a can of tuna yeah sorry i was watching this long 1.00

00:29:24.400 one of your pinterest videos that you have on while you talk to me

00:29:27.440 no no no no no i don't watch videos while you know no no no i i was watching before we recorded

00:29:34.160 this podcast this long like biography video on youtube about rfk and he apparently ate a lot of

00:29:40.880 tuna i think that people can't conceptualize when you mention something like the woman burnt alive

00:29:48.320 they can't conceptualize the pain or the cruelty that's involved in this and the guy's like i was

00:29:53.040 drunk i don't know you know whatever like we do not like we we just need to have a better

00:30:00.000 understanding that sometimes a person can be dispossessed and a danger to society yeah

00:30:05.760 and we are just like unable to accept it yeah that well and that you can be a victim and that you can

00:30:12.880 have been wronged by society and that you can deserve better but also that you can be capable of doing

00:30:19.360 terrible things and you should be removed from mainstream society because you're a danger to other

00:30:22.640 people like all those things can be true all those things can be true we can do better we can do so

00:30:28.080 much better and there needs to be better systems and also like those people should not be on the

00:30:32.640 streets hurting other people yeah i i agree i agree well i mean we we got to go full el salvador here

00:30:39.440 hey if you look at how well this country is doing right now yeah that is what an exceptional person

00:30:46.400 by the way to have have pulled through everything he pulled through dismantling the gangs moving to

00:30:51.840 bitcoin he's so further thinking i i really yeah yeah yeah what a like visionary i need to read more

00:30:58.400 about what's going on there and how it's how it's playing out that's wild there's yeah i mean i think

00:31:02.960 that that at least el salvador shows that there is there's hope for disruption in any system and that

00:31:10.080 things can change really quickly so there's that i mean that that's something that's really notable

00:31:14.560 because you know you see uh god i just saw a stat the other day that like gang employment or crime is

00:31:22.320 like the the fifth largest employer in mexico right now like you see mexico and you're like oh gosh like

00:31:28.960 they're just gone forever like guess i'm just gonna write off mexico now but no because el salvador

00:31:35.200 was able to pull off a huge change it was able to crack down like countries can turn around and

00:31:41.200 that's really encouraging so i i and you know for people who don't know my take on mexico like what's

00:31:48.000 your take on mexico well peter zyhan hates hates this particular take he's like you cannot occupy mexico

00:31:54.640 it's it's it's too big there's i'm like no you can occupy mexico i don't know it is really sprawling i

00:32:00.160 don't know what you're talking about here are you serious are you gonna Mexico's a mess i think 0.89

00:32:06.000 that what we should focus on is occupying mexico and building a stronger border at the southern tip

00:32:11.200 of mexico because it's a much much smaller border to occupy a chokehold okay and it allows you to

00:32:18.160 stomp out the gangs as long as the gangs grow and fester in mexico they spill over into the united

00:32:23.600 states no matter what like it's it's it's i mean the mexican gangs coming into the united states are

00:32:28.320 horrifying that we have allowed what are you saying like oh wait so occupy mexico like in vain

00:32:34.240 like take over or just what i think that mexico we need to find a way to partner with somebody who

00:32:41.920 ends up becoming president of mexico okay to so install a false but very collaborative leader in

00:32:47.680 mexico and not a false i think that the mexican people can understand the benefit of america developing

00:32:54.560 a mutually beneficial relationship in which the country is under a u.s military okay okay okay so

00:33:01.520 okay here's how it would go rogue u.s non-profit or like a dark money operation does a a kind of like

00:33:10.000 an aoc style you've got america's got talent you don't even need to do that look the problem with mexico

00:33:17.040 right now is a figure who is opposed to the gangs and could win the presidency could arise yeah but

00:33:24.000 he'd be assassinated yeah okay so so my my whole my what i'm saying though is like okay one like

00:33:31.520 run a talent competition for that figure two like extremely like basically remove them from mexico and

00:33:38.720 make them completely inaccessible like put them in a like no then they would win you just give them

00:33:43.840 protection look okay give them heavy protection three like uh run them for president and have 0.91

00:33:49.760 them like reconnected what you're talking about that's the problem that would make them inauthentic

00:33:54.160 you just need to wait until somebody is rising in popularity oh and then it's the profile of this

00:34:00.000 and then offer them protection okay even if it's covert and then eventually work to integrate mexico into

00:34:08.400 our security system because right now people are like oh it would cost so much to handle the gangs

00:34:15.040 in mexico if mexico was a stable country that would do so much for america yeah like for america there would

00:34:21.280 be an roi in like putting us armed personnel there if we had a collaborative mexican president you're saying

00:34:32.080 like if yes there would yes if you could stabilize the safety that's the core reason it's still

00:34:38.320 cheap to manufacture mexico in fact the core downside of this is that mexico would increase in value so

00:34:43.440 much the the goods made there the labor there would increase really quickly the only reason it's

00:34:47.360 artificially low now is because of the gangs like mexico should not be as poor of a country as it is it

00:34:52.400 makes no sense that mexico is as poor as it is yeah it should be a a like if you look at like china 1.00

00:34:58.400 like why is it cheaper to manufacture things in mexico than china it's just a game oh man yeah

00:35:05.040 yeah okay that's a that's an underrated opportunity no one's talking about that

00:35:09.680 well and the other thing that people don't talk about is our border with mexico is enormous

00:35:14.480 yeah mexico's border with its southern neighbor is tiny tiny tiny yeah if you put it we can build the

00:35:20.240 wall there at the smallest point in mexico you don't even need to put on its smallest border the

00:35:24.320 smallest point in mexico you're going to get a very easy to defend choke point then you only need

00:35:29.120 to defend the waters until canada falls which you know 10 20 years well right and that's another

00:35:36.400 underrated thing is the number of people coming through our border with canada it's not that

00:35:41.600 underrated mexico is the primary crossing point in the southern border yeah because it's cold up there

00:35:47.680 in canada and also very sparsely populated it's sparsely populated yeah well okay interesting yeah

00:35:55.360 this was yeah this was this is this is me when people say oh he's kind of a strong man in his

00:36:00.640 approaches to people call me libertarian and i'm like i am not i'm i i am libertarian in the same way

00:36:06.960 the el salvador guy's libertarian he's libertarian that he wants bitcoin to be the company's current

00:36:10.880 the country's currency but he's um you know also very strong manny in the way he deals with things

00:36:18.240 like crime and i think that we need a bit of both we need more freedom for people who are positive

00:36:24.320 actors in society and less freedom for people who are demonstrably negative actors in society

00:36:30.640 i.e physically assault other humans yeah so let's see i guess the new version of speak softly and carry

00:36:42.400 a big stick is something like offer bitcoin but walk with kill drones what would that i mean like what

00:36:50.800 yes kill drones and crypto that's what we're into with the new techno feudalist overlord okay well

00:36:58.640 uh welcome for emperor i'm right there with you hey it's the only realistic solution that i see

00:37:07.600 right now when i look at what's worked in other environments um and uh yeah but i think that

00:37:15.280 eventually we'll get to a place where all of the the the thriving places of the world will operate on a

00:37:21.280 system like this and that we'll understand one of my favorite things is when the guardian was uh doing

00:37:27.040 the peace on our government system and they're like well it appears that somebody who pays no taxes

00:37:32.480 and takes from the government isn't going to have any power within this system how are you going to

00:37:36.480 get them to immigrate to your country and i was like wait why would i want them to immigrate to my

00:37:42.400 country like other countries can deal with them you and the uk can deal with them we will take the

00:37:49.200 taxpayers oh the uk is really not looking good at the beginning of 2025 it is really really not looking

00:37:56.240 good and i'm now getting all these videos in my feed i don't know the the algorithm has obviously

00:38:00.800 found that i'm interested in the downfall of the uk which i'm not by the way i love the uk

00:38:06.160 it cannot i i can't afford to have the uk sink into the ocean okay so one this is not okay but two

00:38:12.320 i'm seeing all these videos of people who are basically like the uk is falling apart i'm

00:38:16.880 leaving for all these reasons like here's my like hour-long video about why i'm now teaching 0.97

00:38:22.320 english in hong kong the uk is looking to escape this is screwed up this is really bad a fascist 0.92

00:38:29.280 dictatorship by the far left do you think they can turn it around so can someone else salvador the uk no

00:38:39.120 the way the government is structured is going to make it very very hard for the uk to turn it

00:38:42.960 around unless they regularly and only vote far right over and over and over and over again i mean

00:38:51.280 they might but oh but like they're no they're so milquetoast on so many things it's really right 0.96

00:38:56.960 in the uk is so pathetic they're like banned pornography types they're like or they're like 0.91

00:39:02.960 like well i guess things are just going downhill and maybe we can they're like well i don't want 0.97

00:39:10.160 to look like a racist and it's like well you know maybe a little racist we're not seeing the level of

00:39:17.920 violent and by violent i don't mean physically but i mean like striking stark aggressive visionary um

00:39:26.880 revolutionary political thought that we would need to see among the far right it's all very

00:39:32.000 incrementalist it's all very like well i mean like you know if we just i i don't want to call

00:39:38.800 the bother i don't want to call the bother but it seems like a few things that we're doing here

00:39:43.360 all working um what kind of accent is that i'm trying to do my yaw accent oh one of my favorite so

00:39:52.400 on a recent video we did where we were talking about how in the uk like girls are in these like 1.00

00:39:56.480 gang grape groups and obviously there is sorry is that offensive to say obviously gang great groups

00:40:03.600 are always like i i don't know anywhere where there's like a big problem with gang great groups

00:40:07.840 that aren't i don't know whose father was arrested for trying to protect them

00:40:13.840 what epstein arguably was that wasn't that wasn't it was very different of course it was it was high

00:40:23.760 class simone that makes i'm sorry like these girls were being paid and doing this voluntarily 1.00

00:40:31.600 like it is not the same thing i know yeah i'm just trying i i was racking my brain for examples of non-islamic

00:40:39.040 unethical behavior we were talking on our video about how in the uk there was this instance of

00:40:44.800 this father trying to save his daughter from this and he was arrested under like drunken disorderly

00:40:49.120 stuff and they're like there were multiple instances of parents attempting we don't want to cause a

00:40:53.280 rate you know a racial disruption and uh one of our fans from nigeria was like oh my god like

00:40:59.520 look i'm sorry like i'm from a country where these people are coming from and we would not allow this

00:41:04.480 here like islamic countries don't allow this why are you allowing this what is wrong with you 1.00

00:41:13.280 and yet in the uk if i posted a video complaining about this i could be sent to jail

00:41:21.040 yeah that's yeah the uk is in a really bad way yeah well still okay at least we're not in the uk

00:41:27.200 but oh god i know we love the uk don't do this guys don't don't screw up my happy place

00:41:33.200 it's lost we'll have to have uk little diasporas in the us we're never gonna be able to pull off

00:41:38.880 scotch egg well we can with science anything can be done if we can literally create super

00:41:45.120 babies bring some of these uk people over near us build them a little settlement so they can get away 1.00

00:41:49.680 from the you know the terrifying people honestly the view from my house looks like the english 0.97

00:41:53.680 countryside so i can make this work i can make this work i love you they're just not bold enough i'm

00:42:00.160 sorry i like i my friends from the uk they consider boris johnson bold

00:42:06.480 bold hair bold hair boris johnson is milk toast

00:42:13.120 yeah well i guess where things are with the uk now we need much more bold action and i

00:42:20.720 would encourage our friends in the what they need is an oliver cromwell to come back in and

00:42:25.760 and tidy things up for them yeah or margaret thatcher i love margaret thatcher she was great

00:42:32.480 oh what a lady yeah it can happen maybe anyway i love you to death simone you are the absolute best

00:42:42.960 we got your started yeah because that's your ending and anybody yeah taquitos we love you guys our fans

00:42:51.600 you make all this worth it genuinely though like i'm europeans kind of

00:42:59.680 honored and surprised i don't know like humbled by the caliber of people who watch this um

00:43:08.720 which is why we need to get more of them to donate their money to us if they don't

00:43:13.920 i was like no we got to set this up and what we're going to build is a dna data bank

00:43:17.920 so you send us your full dna sequence and we'll just include it in our founding documents and if

00:43:22.960 we end up becoming a big movement in the future yeah obviously we're not asking for all of your

00:43:26.480 money or whatever but if you want us to include this and you're a donor we'll include it along

00:43:30.480 with any ai training data you want and future people may end up using it to i don't know train ai

00:43:35.600 models or in creating of humans as a blank human dna template okay but there'll be a better shot you

00:43:43.600 have of being represented in the future than just like spamming kids at a sperm clinic or something

00:43:48.960 but beyond that if you are watching this because you feel intellectually isolated

00:43:54.320 and you're watching this because you know some people who commented in on another episode mentioned

00:43:59.520 that remember that there is a discord that we have where it's it's a really great community and and

00:44:04.720 a lot of people who come to us saying like hey i also feel really intellectually isolated you know do

00:44:10.320 is there anywhere i can go they've enjoyed the discord a lot and it's it's a really great group

00:44:15.040 of people so and it's very very active if you're inclined to do group chat malcolm please if you could

00:44:22.160 leave a link there i i would encourage you to check it out and we hope that this helps you feel less

00:44:27.040 lonely in addition to hanging out with us and we are honored to have you here so okay love you to

00:44:32.960 death simone you are an absolute princess i love you and i will get your rending taquito started and

00:44:39.120 please get the kids are we doing rending taquitos tonight or more of the lemon rice that lemon rice

00:44:43.040 was so good oh i can do more lemon rice there's just not a whole lot of the rending left but i

00:44:46.960 can do some of those indian appetizers to accompany it no that doesn't really work do the taquitos

00:44:52.720 okay taquitos because i help but i also have like refrigerated the rice or rice was the next

00:44:58.320 day's dish by the way lemon rice amazing you're a great cook so good you know what the secret is i think

00:45:03.840 is sugar did you did you try the lemon rice by the way yes of course that's like i kept taking

00:45:11.440 swiping swiping bites it's it's really good lemon rice from now on baby you know what actually here's

00:45:19.200 the thing i want you to invent new types of rice orange sorry sorry it's not no no lime lime coconut

00:45:24.240 rice but i want you to experiment here for the record it is in a rice cooker put jasmine rice with not

00:45:32.560 light but heavy coconut milk instead of water after of course rinsing the starch out of the rice

00:45:38.160 add the zest like per one cup of rice you're adding the zest and juice of one lime so i did

00:45:45.440 three cups of rice you're scraping the outside yeah you're grading the outside of the of the lime and then

00:45:51.520 you are putting all the juice in there and then you also put in i think i put in like at least a

00:45:57.200 tablespoon of sugar on some salt and that i think really made it oh so good anyway okay i love you bye

00:46:11.200 oh that snow isn't it so pretty yes oh my gosh all right do do a pro natals conference pitch oh yes

00:46:20.800 if you want to have a good time and meet a bunch of other pro natalist families and also there were a lot

00:46:25.680 of just single young prenatalist people to go to the natal con in austin this march um you can get

00:46:33.680 a 10 discount on your registration if you enter the code collins because we are here for you and

00:46:39.360 hopefully we'll get to meet you in person this spring oh what what are we doing oh no

00:46:55.680 oh

00:47:09.840 oh my gosh there were no survivors okay guys say i love you daddy he's going to see

00:47:15.680 see you i love you we love you daddy drive safe daddy bye

Based Camp - January 07, 2025

The NYC Subway： How Society's Spirit was Broken

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