Based Camp - The Positions of Modern ＂LGBT+ Rights＂ Orgs Will Shock You (Proof from Their Candidate Vetting)

00:00:00.000 are saying basically that the state of pennsylvania is like you know what if you receive gender

00:00:05.640 affirming care as a minor you should have the right up until age 30 to sue your health care

00:00:10.960 provider for offering that gender affirming care to you if it turns out that they were acting

00:00:15.760 in a completely flagrantly irresponsible manner oh shit yeah so they're like no no no no because

00:00:23.340 i think they know that a lot of people who are getting gender affirming care as minors are going

00:00:28.300 to sue their health care providers when when they reach their 20s when they reach their 30s when

00:00:32.540 they're fully myelinated when they learn more and they're like oh no no no we can't do that so you

00:00:37.520 can be tried with reckless endangerment if you know you have hiv and you intentionally hide that from

00:00:43.660 another individual and give them hiv i can't even believe that they are trying to prevent this

00:00:49.580 they oppose increasing criminal this is what i talk about i don't know how you can be pro-gay and pro-democrat

00:00:56.000 at the same time like you have to who who suffers from this being removed from the law who is going

00:01:01.920 to predominantly suffer from this being removed it's going to be gays who are trying to practice

00:01:07.780 safe sex that is who's going to suffer for this would you like to know more hello everyone in a

00:01:14.340 previous episode we mentioned that simone got a letter in the mail because you know she's running for

00:01:18.720 office and they ask her what are your thoughts on various issues and with a lot of them you know when

00:01:23.420 it's like an anti-gun organization she can just basically throw it in the trash because she knows

00:01:27.120 she's not going to come off smelling like roses to these groups but i was super excited about this

00:01:31.680 because this this came from this group called keystone equality they they say that they support

00:01:37.040 lgbtq plus rights and i'm like oh my gosh like this is one of those things where you know we are more

00:01:42.200 socially progressive at least when it comes to our our cultural sovereignty stance you know we may not

00:01:47.620 you know we may be on the conservative end but we very much support people having the freedom to

00:01:51.940 pursue whatever culture they want so this is slam dunk like i i should take this candidate survey

00:01:57.680 so that they can endorse me and i can show to democrats and libertarians and more socially

00:02:03.040 progressive people in my district that you know i may be a candidate worth consideration i was so

00:02:08.360 excited and then i dive into it and i'm like you know what i should have i should have known

00:02:12.440 that there were going to be problems because their logo is not the classic gay flag

00:02:18.640 or the republican gay flag i call it it is as i think one of the base camp followers named it

00:02:23.560 which is the best name the colonizer flag which includes the additional triangle of white pink blue

00:02:31.440 brown and black because race is a sexual orientation i i do not understand how like anyone who grew up

00:02:40.060 with like a traditional understanding of non-discrimination this is wild that this flag thing

00:02:46.080 happened the the rainbow represented everything under the rainbow that was that was the point

00:02:51.000 yeah the full spectrum less inclusive we need to we it's it's so freaking animal farm i really wish i

00:03:00.200 had a good animal farm clip i could use every time i bring this up because it's so insane it's like

00:03:03.580 well yes i know we're all equal but some of us are more equal than others and need special representation

00:03:08.500 on the flag and we'll just erase a little bit of the historic gay identity with every little

00:03:13.200 notch and this is where i think in this survey and we're going over this survey people are going to

00:03:19.720 learn that the progressive like what the quote-unquote progressives are advocating for

00:03:26.660 with gay bills and lgbt bills these days it is not something that like any sane person would want

00:03:32.820 yeah this is it's it's no longer about protections it's about um providing privileged status to people

00:03:41.620 and and frankly creating a liability for genuinely lgbtq plus people because what you're more doing than

00:03:49.700 anything at this point is creating space for bad actors so let's get into these questions because

00:03:54.740 i found them to be i was so excited i was like oh i'm gonna you know i'm just getting all these all

00:04:00.700 he's right you know i love getting questions right i love teacher you know saying that i was correct

00:04:05.460 and i i got increasingly alarmed through this she almost every single one but two all but two bad

00:04:11.980 guy i get the f i'd rather say that they've become the bad guys and i am mortified at how yeah i i just

00:04:19.780 i i think that sometimes i can just read off some of the questions and you can stop when we yeah let's

00:04:24.420 just let's just go into it right now did you vote in favor of the fairness act or if you're not an

00:04:29.580 incumbent did you support adding sexual orientation and gender identity as protected characteristics

00:04:35.000 in pennsylvania's non-discrimination civil rights act so what what made me uncomfortable about that

00:04:42.440 is this is just adding additional red tape whereby people are going to be able to

00:04:47.400 well and gender identity it doesn't it doesn't say you know like uh that would include things like

00:04:53.660 non-binary which is basically a class that anyone can opt into well yeah so basically this enables you

00:04:59.440 to you could like this enables any abusive actor to suddenly say oh well i'm non-binary and now i'm

00:05:07.520 going to sue you because even though you fired me because i showed up late five weeks in a row

00:05:12.460 and i'm an asshole and i didn't follow the company rules i'm gonna say it's because i was

00:05:17.960 non-binary it allows everyone to become a protected class which is obviously a bad idea

00:05:22.480 yeah then there's also and this sort of more just runs against our cultural sovereignty rules it says

00:05:27.920 do you support legislation that would ban the practice of conversion therapy for minors in

00:05:32.140 pennsylvania now you and i in the pragmatist guide to sexuality clearly state that like conversion

00:05:37.640 therapy doesn't work unless it's like literally subjecting you to gay orgies until you get super

00:05:44.200 saturated and tired of them for a while but then you have to like re-up that but this is based on the

00:05:49.180 evidence we have it based on the evidence yeah so like one the only form of gay conversion therapy that

00:05:54.020 works is like intense gay orgies that kind of get you just kind of done with it for a while but you

00:05:59.240 have to like re-inoculate so one it's not effective anyway but two like to to prevent families from with

00:06:08.300 their minors you know giving them the form of therapy or like sort of religious treatment that you

00:06:13.200 think is appropriate runs against our cultural sovereignty stance so i couldn't answer that

00:06:17.780 so to add some color to our position here i would be okay with banning camps based on specific

00:06:24.780 modalities of treatment like what happens to the children at a camp if these camps are doing something

00:06:30.500 illegal with the kids then of course they should not be legal what i am against is banning camps based

00:06:36.700 on the intent of the treatment because while you have said no known therapy modality is effective

00:06:43.960 helping same-sex attracted individuals either transition what they find most attractive or

00:06:52.520 suppressing their attraction that doesn't mean that it is impossible for such a treatment method to

00:07:00.260 one day be invented and some people some children even you know i know when i was younger i had gay

00:07:07.180 friends who would constantly tell me how much they wish they could just not be gay there are young people

00:07:13.600 who if a treatment like this existed would want said treatment and to deny that they exist is to

00:07:21.820 deny the lived experiences of hundreds of thousands of individuals however what i would be open to

00:07:27.760 is a requirement that sending a kid to one of these camps requires the consent of both parents and i would

00:07:35.100 note here that people would be like well then how do you you know if you think that this isn't something

00:07:38.700 that can be cured for example quote unquote cured why are you okay with religious frameworks that you

00:07:45.000 know tell people to suppress their sexual desires and it's because you don't have to act on them okay

00:07:51.040 you can decide yes this is my preference but it is not my lifestyle choice and i want and it's so funny

00:08:00.180 that like we get these comments from urban monoculture brain to people who don't get it

00:08:04.580 you go you want to force you know you want to allow some cultures to force same-sex attracted

00:08:10.800 individuals to you know marry a woman or join the clergy and it's like no i don't want to do that

00:08:18.820 i want to unlike you allow same-sex attracted individuals to make choices about which culture

00:08:28.920 they identify with yeah and this is just one option this is one way you can choose to do same-sex

00:08:33.940 identification you can also choose to convert into a different culture that's all about

00:08:39.420 flamboyant gay life or you can convert into a culture that's like oh you're a gay female that

00:08:45.060 means you're a man um or you can convert into a culture that's like oh you're you're just gonna

00:08:49.420 be super non-binary and not talk about it and do whatever it is you want like i don't care

00:08:54.100 you're the one who wants to remove choice from same-sex attracted individuals yeah and that's that's

00:08:58.240 the problem is is that's that's coercion when when you start to dictate that so here's another

00:09:02.560 question wait hold on i wanted to point out here okay a same-sex attracted catholic priest

00:09:07.700 is not not going out there having sex with people because the catholics are forcing him to

00:09:13.220 he chose that lifestyle yeah okay we don't live in a catholic monarchy you are the one trying to

00:09:20.020 remove choice from him i am trying to give him the maximum amount of choice you just don't see it that

00:09:25.140 way because you see a choice to not be a member of your cultural group to not instantly gratify every

00:09:30.920 desire you have as being a non-choice yeah so another question they ask is do you support adding

00:09:38.260 sexual orientation and gender identity and expression to pennsylvania's hate crimes law

00:09:43.440 and strengthening penalties for those who commit hate crimes so obviously i couldn't answer yes to

00:09:48.780 this either because you know we express candid opinions about um being transgender about youth gender

00:09:56.960 transition about lgbt stuff that could be interpreted like perhaps in the uk where there are stronger hate

00:10:04.920 crime laws you know as a as a hate crime you know jk rowling has has played with these rules on twitter

00:10:10.500 you know in in the uk so you know we have a youtube channel where we comment on these issues we comment on

00:10:17.080 the policies and we talk about the green lines and if i was in support of adding you know strengthening the

00:10:23.400 penalties and adding sexual orientation and gender expression to the hate crime laws in our state

00:10:29.560 i could be subjecting us to genuine legal liability like personally so i couldn't support that one

00:10:36.320 again you cannot extend hate crimes opt-in sexual identities and i know non-binary people will be like

00:10:42.800 it's not a choice but like right but bad actors bad actors can make it a choice yeah like i mean

00:10:49.580 there's that one there's that one shooter who allegedly identified as as gender and they're

00:10:55.400 like oh no no no that doesn't count but like it does but it would count under the hate crime law so

00:11:00.200 you don't get to like disavow him because it hurts your community that now you're identified with a

00:11:04.280 mass shooter yeah um but you would disavow him like and that's the thing like when when you're

00:11:09.240 legislating you have to keep in mind you're not just legislating for the people you're defending you

00:11:13.360 also have to legislate around bad actors who may use this against the very people you're trying to

00:11:18.060 protect which of course like you know loops into the whole turf issue well this is the problem in

00:11:23.880 australia right now is somebody in australia is being sued because they tried to keep uh transgender

00:11:28.000 women off of their app transgender women who didn't pass so keep in mind transgender women were allowed

00:11:32.320 just not non-passing and that was considered you know illegal in in australia you are not allowed to

00:11:37.500 have lesbian only spaces from a legal perspective now because anyone can identify this way you there is no

00:11:43.260 cut off for what is transgender well now any cis male sex pest can go on lesbian dating apps and

00:11:49.560 harass lesbians like yeah of course it's gonna piss off so that's that's another issue right okay so

00:11:54.320 let's go to the next yeah i'm like okay come on there has to be something here like i'm i'm an ally i'm an

00:11:58.600 ally do you support efforts to modernize and simplify the process for legal name changes including the

00:12:04.300 removal of the requirement that name changes be advertised in local newspapers or law journals now keep in

00:12:10.800 mind this is for people who have things like pending debts who may have committed crimes like the thing

00:12:15.880 is now this is another law that i can't support because it could be abused by bad actors and i don't

00:12:25.600 really see why like if i'm changing my my gender and i need to legally change my name is it so bad that

00:12:32.540 i advertise in a i mean no one no one even reads the newspaper no no but you're absolutely right like

00:12:38.260 the reason why that exists as a law is so people can't use this to like escape debt or exactly defraud

00:12:45.400 people yeah and again like these are not you you're not being forced to post it on facebook to your

00:12:51.940 friends and family if this is a private and sensitive matter this is this is advertising this

00:12:56.980 in in a in a place where if there are legal pending or financial issues people will see it but

00:13:02.240 again only bad actors would abuse that so again i can't i can't do this like okay come on

00:13:06.340 there's got to be something okay well oh here's another one we're totally gonna lose on do you

00:13:11.320 oppose efforts to prevent transgender students from participating in all publicly sanctioned for

00:13:17.440 or funded school athletic programs according to their gender identity well no that's totally not fair

00:13:24.180 you know if you have you know a 17 year old natal male who's transitioned to female who's you know

00:13:31.380 competing in athletics he's going to absolutely school on average of course is his female competitors

00:13:38.380 this is not this is not where i love it where they will come to you with like studies that have

00:13:45.080 obviously been like combed through by the ultra monocultures that like and and and i think that

00:13:49.900 people don't understand what happens when they do that when you come to me with a study and i can look

00:13:54.580 at this person and be like obviously they have an advantage and you go yeah but look here and

00:13:59.240 if you if you split the data this way they don't that doesn't make me believe that they don't have

00:14:04.660 an advantage it makes me distrust academic institutions and studies okay everyone can see

00:14:11.620 that we're being gaslit on this like it's not hard you have to be like a religious level of delusional

00:14:19.500 to not be able to look at pictures like the ones i'm putting on the screen and be like this person has

00:14:24.500 an obvious biological advantage and then you can say well well well well well well some humans have

00:14:32.160 a biological advantage over other humans and that's unfair and it's like yeah that's what sports

00:14:38.940 were about we created women's leagues so that women could compete so yeah it's women because their

00:14:46.320 bodies are on average quite different which is is yeah if you want to create transgender leagues

00:14:51.620 that's fine if you want to create mixed gender leagues that's fine i am open to a world where

00:14:58.220 everyone can strive and and succeed but when you in mass allow trans individuals into women's leagues

00:15:07.000 you create an environment where young girls who have worked very very very hard have their opportunity

00:15:14.760 to be on top taken from them yeah and that is incredibly cruel also as somebody with a number of

00:15:20.840 trans friends what i've heard from them they view laws that prevent people like leah thomas from

00:15:27.240 unfairly engaging in these competitions as primarily protecting trans individuals it hurts the entire

00:15:35.240 trans community when you see somebody obviously taking advantage of the carve outs that are meant to

00:15:43.440 protect trans people to get an advantage over other individuals we used to see jokes about

00:15:50.380 trans people competing in sports teams and being allowed in women's changing rooms as being

00:15:56.780 fundamentally anti-trans because it was seen as so obviously an unfair thing to do

00:16:03.820 miss man come in dear have a seat take off your bra if you'd like i need to talk

00:16:16.780 see i have this problem i have a terrible secret well cindy we all have our little secrets

00:16:24.300 sometimes we do things we're not so proud of to gain the athletic edge on the competition

00:16:29.880 sometimes those secrets come back to haunt us and i also need to point out here in the case of

00:16:36.320 someone like leah thomas when you create these carve outs that mal actors are going to use them

00:16:43.660 for their own sexual gratification and to well goon on girls to be a sex pest if you look at somebody like

00:16:52.180 leah thomas here's a quote from one of her teammates we did not give our consent they did not ask for our

00:16:58.380 consent but in that locker room we turn around and there's a 6'4 biological man dropping his pants

00:17:05.480 and watching us undress and we were exposed to male genitalia i mean do do people really support this

00:17:14.340 like do they really know what's happening that you have other underage girls in this room and they

00:17:22.180 should be protected from somebody just being able to say i identify as trans now i get to go in a

00:17:28.360 woman's locker room and ogle at underage girls and force them to see my genitalia do you not see that

00:17:35.060 somebody might be abusing these sorts of carve outs and that this abuse doesn't just hurt these

00:17:42.340 underage girls but also real trans people and i as somebody who believes the trans narrative that

00:17:49.340 real trans people exist that there are real people in the world who are born the wrong gender and just

00:17:57.060 want to be seen as the correct gender do i believe for a second that somebody who actually just wanted

00:18:04.820 to be seen as a girl would be walking around a girl's locker room with their penis hanging out

00:18:11.640 that they would be ogling at naked girls in a girl's locker room do i believe that no no i i don't if

00:18:23.180 that is what trans is but if trans is the ability for a guy with an exhibitionism fetish to assume an

00:18:33.560 identity that allows him into girls locker rooms and forces girls to look at his genitalia well that's a

00:18:40.080 different thing that's not what i was told trans was and that's not what i believe anyone who is

00:18:45.740 really trans believes what trans is any real trans person is going to want laws on the books that

00:18:53.340 prevent individuals like leah thomas from engendering ill will on their community even if it means that

00:19:03.940 they have to undergo really pretty trivial sacrifices like not being able to participate in

00:19:10.040 intramural sports yeah so there's there's another one here that's actually quite fascinating they

00:19:15.540 ask do you oppose extending the statute of limitations under which a person could file a

00:19:20.180 civil claim related to gender affirming care which could cause providers to leave the state in response

00:19:25.700 to higher insurance premiums so to give a little bit more color here there is an amendment a house bill

00:19:33.560 138 that would according to keystone equality which is just i guess i'm going to out them the

00:19:40.200 organizations that's asking these questions they would inappropriately increase the statute of

00:19:44.580 limitations for gender affirming care of any kind for up to the age of 30 in cases where a minor

00:19:50.020 was provided such care they say that if passed legislation would have the effect of making the cost of

00:19:55.560 liability insurance prohibited for health care workers seeking to provide affirming care for

00:20:00.040 transgender people and that the bill intentionally targets a transgender community by making health

00:20:05.240 care harder to obtain for all transgender people in other words they're saying basically that the

00:20:10.020 state of pennsylvania is like you know what if you receive gender affirming care as a minor you should

00:20:15.480 have the right up until age 30 to sue your health care provider for offering that gender affirming care

00:20:21.100 to you if it turns out that they were acting in a completely flagrantly irresponsible manner and you

00:20:27.880 you regret the care that you were given and you were not given care with a lot of shit yeah so they're

00:20:33.480 like no no no no because i think they know that a lot of people who are getting gender affirming care

00:20:38.820 as minors are going to sue their health care providers when when they reach their 20s when they

00:20:43.360 reach their 30s when they're fully myelinated when they learn more and they're like oh no no no we

00:20:47.820 can't do that because they can't afford the liability insurance for that that's monstrous i know i know i

00:20:53.780 know so i'm like oh man like i want to reframe this in in in in in like a tighter form okay they

00:20:59.540 are trying to make it illegal for children that they have groomed and then believe like a kid i'm

00:21:06.460 not saying like the parents think the children have been minors like a minor gets convinced by their

00:21:11.900 psychologist or something like that to get this care later ends up realizing that they were brainwashed

00:21:18.780 into getting this or that they weren't really told what the alternatives are which is something we know

00:21:23.580 is happening at scale now from numerous leaks that have happened okay then they go back and they try

00:21:30.340 to sue the provider and they would otherwise win the lawsuit no we're not saying just anyone who

00:21:36.260 spuriously decides that they want to sue their provider of this stuff yes it is trying to make it so

00:21:42.500 that this individual even if they would have won this lawsuit won't be allowed to based on the evidence

00:21:49.620 because the statute of limitations will pass probably provable that they were brainwashed

00:21:53.520 that they cannot go back on this and keep in mind this isn't even that long it says by the age of 30

00:22:00.120 right like yeah that's that's the the that's where they're trying to extend the statute of limitations

00:22:04.640 with this pennsylvania house bill that is not that long yeah um so they're basically comping

00:22:10.860 right here what i'm seeing here that they know this wave of lawsuits is coming yeah they are trying to

00:22:15.680 prevent it because they know internally yeah well it's not just that it's not just that because

00:22:21.400 one if if this does pass it will make liability insurance more expensive for health care providers

00:22:26.680 who choose to provide um gender-affirming care that because of the level of misconduct yeah

00:22:32.180 yeah yeah misconduct wasn't high as to how big is this flood a detransitor is going to be

00:22:39.240 well we now know from the study that came out in 2024 development of gender non-contentedness

00:22:45.480 during adolescence and early adulthood that of 11 year olds who are discontent with their gender

00:22:52.160 over 90 percent of them by the age of 23 are 100 percent content with their gender it just turned out

00:22:59.220 that they were gay so you are if you put 11 year olds who are discontent with their gender on

00:23:06.300 gender-affirming care sacrificing castrating nine gay kids for every one trans kid you are quote-unquote

00:23:14.260 saving that sounds like a pretty anti-gay position to me the systematic and mass castration of gay

00:23:22.500 children well now they could argue you know because again this is this is the cost of liability

00:23:27.440 insurance so they could argue that well this is insurers expecting that that there's bad conduct

00:23:33.560 and there's going to be a lot of expensive lawsuits and then therefore charging prohibitively

00:23:37.280 expensive no no no i yeah i i do too but i'm just i'm just i'm just making this as balanced as i

00:23:44.080 possibly can even though i'm i'm obviously biased but anyway so like i can't i can't say yes to that

00:23:48.480 that's not even that's not even like that is genuinely monstrous that you would try to prevent that

00:23:52.740 i know here's here's another question from hold on hold on i want to point out a few other things

00:23:58.040 this is like if if they know and i suspect that most of the trans community now knows that puberty

00:24:03.500 blockers have long-term consequences this means all of the doctors who are telling their patients that

00:24:07.920 which we basically know from the evidence isn't true anymore they can be sued they don't want that

00:24:12.520 to happen because lying to the patient is a key part of gender-affirming care but anyway continue

00:24:20.560 yeah so this this next question a little more difficult i would say do you oppose efforts at

00:24:27.380 the state or school district level to restrict curricula ban books or curtail other age-appropriate

00:24:33.520 educational materials or individual expression of the instructor because of lgbtq content now i mean

00:24:39.260 we don't care well we don't care if you know a teacher is gay we don't care if a teacher says that

00:24:44.600 they're married to someone of the same gender or if they're trans or whatever but yeah i mean

00:24:48.960 in general content that promotes any type of pairing is being the correct type of pairing

00:24:56.080 is something that well no i'll put on screen here a a tiktok where you will see a teacher discussing

00:25:03.960 what she is doing with her elementary school class oh yeah this has been my first year in preschool with

00:25:09.920 a class of my own teaching alongside another queer neurodivergent educator and we have been

00:25:15.460 rocking our two's class we've been talking about gender and skin color and consent and empathy and

00:25:22.580 our bodies and autonomy it's been fabulous but our teaching team is shifting and a new person is being

00:25:28.600 onboarded someone with many years of experience so today at the lunch table when the topic of gender and

00:25:35.620 genitals came up one of our students plainly looked up and said well i'm a girl today but i know that

00:25:42.520 teacher co isn't no they're envy and the look on the incoming teacher's face was priceless she was

00:25:52.200 shocked in a good way and she just looked around at the two of us and said this class is incredible and

00:25:57.940 i am so impressed

00:25:59.620 she's talking to them about genitals about gender expression about she's like yeah when the topic of

00:26:08.220 genitals came up i'm like whoa why is genitals coming up with kindergartens as a regular lunchroom

00:26:14.680 discussion and why are all of the other teachers okay that this just happened because that's part of

00:26:19.400 the story you know why are you indoctrinating the kids into your culture's framework around gender

00:26:25.580 which frankly is a fringe framework it is and i think this is something that fundamentally that

00:26:31.480 the urban monoculture like people who are really seeped in it struggle to understand it's gender

00:26:37.340 is at the end of the day a completely cultural phenomenon the way that our culture relates to

00:26:44.760 gender there is a truth of gender which is sexual expression right but the way you relate to sexual

00:26:51.560 expression is completely well and gender expression right so when i talk about like x y chromosomes and

00:26:57.300 the difference that makes and how people develop and sometimes you can have intersex individuals

00:27:00.880 and different cultures will relate to those individuals differently but most cultures have

00:27:05.140 chosen just to lump people broadly into one of two genders whichever one they seem more like

00:27:09.820 but that's a cultural decision the urban monoculture has decided to atomize this almost as much as they can

00:27:16.660 but that that doesn't mean that that's like necessarily the right way to react to it and when i look to

00:27:22.280 the unaliving rates within the urban monoculture it seems to me it obviously isn't the right way to react

00:27:27.620 to it so am i okay with this system that seems to be correlated with high rates of unaliving oneself

00:27:34.980 and increasing rates as acceptance for the lgbt community is accepted more so it's not due to

00:27:41.020 discrimination because the rates are increasing as acceptance is increasing am i okay with that my child

00:27:46.620 being exposed to that cultural system no and and and this is this is one of the things that always

00:27:52.000 got me about the florida law like the don't say gay law i know the person who worked on drafting this

00:27:57.260 law and i had actually believed the urban monocultures lie that the law made it so that gay teachers

00:28:03.300 could not tell their students that they were gay and actually among republicans when they were drafting

00:28:09.260 the law she's like yeah actually in the first draft of the law it could have been read that way and we

00:28:13.900 the republicans before it went out changed it so it couldn't be read that way because that is

00:28:19.700 something that modern republicans actually want they just don't want it's brainwashed okay let me let

00:28:24.240 me go to the next one this is actually interesting i've never heard of this before they ask do you

00:28:28.540 support prohibiting the lgbtq plus panic defense in legal proceedings in pennsylvania so i asked perplexity

00:28:35.660 what this was because i'd never heard of it before basically it's one not even really a defense

00:28:41.660 that's used in murder cases a lot but basically it's it's something that sometimes defenders try

00:28:49.800 to use to say like oh this person was so freaked out related to the other person's lgbtq plus status

00:29:00.260 that that's why they murdered them or did something you are underselling it the panic defense comes into

00:29:06.020 play when a person lies about their sexual or gender yeah that's where it most likely comes

00:29:12.120 into it it happens if a today they'd be trans historically they would have been gay you know

00:29:18.680 there's been changing the way we relate to gender at the society but a a trans person for example

00:29:24.000 lies to a person uh that they were cis um and then when that person realizes often because they

00:29:31.500 haven't undergone you know full they they say oh you i just had sex with you and now i see you have

00:29:36.680 a penis or you know something like that they freak out and they murder the person this is obviously a

00:29:43.120 horrifying thing but here's sort of the way i would put it do i think that muslims should be able to

00:29:54.320 use it the defense in a murder case this person secretly slipped me pork intentionally because i view

00:30:00.540 that as a similar kind of offense in this offense the individual has knowingly done something that

00:30:07.840 the muslim thinks is going to cause them to be tortured for all eternity and maliciously done it

00:30:13.400 for their own momentary pleasure maybe a laugh or something like that while i do think it is a truly

00:30:21.180 monstrous thing for an individual to do because that's that's why these people are so mad like they're

00:30:25.960 acting like they're mad because the person is kind of it's not something that's used to get people off

00:30:33.100 the hook it's just it's it's something that's used in a court of law to be like they were driven insane

00:30:38.420 they panicked because of their belief structure and the reason why a lot of people who support lgbtq

00:30:44.540 rights are like hey let's just not allow people to use this defense at all is it's offensive to even

00:30:50.360 suggest that being lgbtq plus in some way would cause someone to freak out that much that's not

00:30:57.120 what they're freaking out about that's the point they are not freaking out that their partner is gay

00:31:02.800 they're freaking out that they just had sex with a guy i know i know i know but but malcolm what

00:31:07.900 you're missing is that is that the reason why they're trying to remove this from defense cases

00:31:11.480 is that that shouldn't be something that's normalized like you shouldn't be allowed to to wake up next to

00:31:17.760 someone who you thought was one sex and is another sex they shouldn't be allowed to hold their religious

00:31:22.780 beliefs exactly yes so anyway that's you know i don't i i think people should be allowed to give

00:31:27.940 that context in the court of law because like like to your point if someone was fed pork when it's

00:31:32.620 against their religion i would want to know that in a court case because i couldn't i would want to

00:31:37.560 know like why were they freaking out so much like this is weird you know you need to know the context

00:31:43.360 it should be admissible in a court context but it shouldn't necessarily get them off but that's

00:31:48.200 the way but it doesn't and it doesn't it and it hasn't they're basically just saying this shouldn't

00:31:52.560 be discussed at all so that's that's one and it's interesting to know which is actually kind of

00:31:57.960 insane the court who's making the decision shouldn't be allowed to know that you know the

00:32:02.860 context into sleeping with a guy yeah in their mind maybe not another person's mind but in their

00:32:07.460 mind they thought it was a guy so anyway this back to this next question ties back to what we were

00:32:13.140 discussing in terms of like hiv positivity in the lgbtq plus world they ask do you oppose increasing

00:32:19.840 criminal penalties for people who are hiv positive when those who are not hiv positive would not be

00:32:26.500 subject to those increased penalties for the same offense so here they're basically saying like you

00:32:32.180 know should people be penalized for being irresponsible when they have hiv and could hurt other people

00:32:37.660 because no no no no this is this is about a specific legal statute so you can be tried with

00:32:43.680 it's like reckless endangerment right i don't think it's yes it's reckless endangerment if you know you

00:32:48.800 have hiv and you intentionally hide that from another individual and give them hiv i i i can't even

00:32:55.360 believe that they are trying to prevent this from the case that we would yeah that they would they

00:33:00.200 oppose increasing criminal penalties this is what i talk about i don't know how you can be pro-gay and

00:33:04.520 pro-democrat at the same time like you have to who who suffers from this being removed from the law

00:33:09.860 who is going to predominantly suffer from this being removed it's going to be gays who are trying to

00:33:16.520 practice safe sex that is who's going to suffer for this who benefits from this gays who are preying

00:33:23.720 on other gay yeah yeah bad actors bad actors that's that's a key thing here that is why would you try to

00:33:31.400 protect that if you wanted to protect the gay community because they don't care about the gay

00:33:35.360 right right right um they care about the bad actors that's so really it i actually found two questions

00:33:41.400 here that i do support so that and they're right next to each other one is do you support guaranteeing

00:33:46.860 the rights of lgbtq plus parents to seek and retain custody of their children including foster and

00:33:52.060 adopted children without bias based on their status totally that it should have nothing to do with it

00:33:56.760 and two the second one that we would finally say get to say yes to do you support equal rights for

00:34:02.020 legally married same sex same gender couples as those granted legally married couples who are the

00:34:07.960 opposite sex or gender totally doesn't matter you know i actually want to push back on what some of

00:34:12.280 our fans will say on these two issues oh yeah the one is is some of our fans will say how dare you

00:34:17.040 allow a gay couple to adopt kids like what about the effects that has on the kids i'm like

00:34:21.960 do you know how bad foster care is right this is demonstrably better for the child

00:34:26.900 like anyone who who typically passes the requirements to adopt a child or whatever you

00:34:34.400 know like and also one having a kid so one adopting is really hard if you can adopt you're probably way

00:34:39.200 above like the standard of most parents who biologically have kids and two if you are

00:34:44.500 conscientious enough to make the money and go through the intense hardship of having children

00:34:49.800 especially if you're a gay couple lesbians it's a tiny bit easier but gay is like really hard to

00:34:54.120 have kids then you're probably way better why we can't trust the data to that says because if you

00:35:00.500 look at the data on do gay parents have a negative effect on their children growing up it turns out

00:35:05.860 that they actually have much more successful and mentally healthy kids yeah because they're like

00:35:09.560 but the people who are capable of having kids yeah the reason why this is the case is because of the

00:35:14.780 gating the barriers to entry people to end up getting access to kids so it basically skews the

00:35:20.960 study but this is relevant if you're trying to bar these couples who are having better outcomes from

00:35:26.580 even adopting when keep in mind kids who are adopted can often if they want to say i don't want to be

00:35:32.320 with this family anymore or i find this situation abusive but they're choosing not to because they

00:35:37.600 believe this is better for them than what the alternative would be how dare you make that decision for

00:35:44.140 the child then the second case that the gay married couple should have the same rights we had a

00:35:49.900 comment in our last video they said well these people aren't married it's not a real marriage

00:35:54.500 because you can't have a real marriage between i'm like from your cultural perspective that's true

00:36:01.340 but there are versions of christianity and there are versions of judaism and there are versions of

00:36:07.180 islam and there are versions of buddhism that do believe that so you can't just annul other religions

00:36:15.380 because it's not what your religion yeah yeah yeah that comes back to cultural sovereignty rival

00:36:20.080 that is being insane one and then two even even if like like you 100 believe this and you think that

00:36:28.220 our society is made worse for them being able to marry right you know you don't have the voting power

00:36:36.280 to enforce that you know all you do is hurt republican chances of winning by going out there

00:36:42.480 and being a hardliner and trying to get this into republican policy positions why are you doing this

00:36:48.500 even the majority of the republican base don't want this you know over is it was 61 the last time i

00:36:55.060 looked at the republican base not the democrat base the republican base wants gays to be able to get

00:37:01.160 married yeah especially the younger republican base so it's only a matter of time until this is

00:37:05.020 yeah it's like 30 percent only 30 percent of the young republican base didn't want gays to be able

00:37:08.660 to get married yeah it is it is no you are not helping anyone and are you even helping the people

00:37:16.120 you're banning from getting married do you think okay do you really want to do you really want to

00:37:22.080 suppress marriage is this no no no that's not what i mean you prevent a gay couple from getting

00:37:27.720 married increased or decreased the probability that they find jesus obviously you've decreased

00:37:34.660 the probability fair point because they're stuck in a degenerate you know uh yeah you're forcing them

00:37:40.320 away from they now see you as the enemy because you kept them from entering a marriage and i also think

00:37:46.240 here this is where i get to the ordering of sins and i think that this is something where classic

00:37:51.320 christianity is incredibly unbiblical and i find it very frustrating okay you are a sinner but jesus

00:38:01.500 still saved you how dare you try to deny his salvation to somebody else because they're going through some

00:38:10.360 phase in their life or something like that right um when we look at a rank order of sins yes i think

00:38:20.460 if you go with a classical interpretation of christianity sleeping with a partner of the same sex

00:38:27.880 is absolutely busted okay do i think that that prevents these people from getting into heaven

00:38:35.320 if you read the bible no more than the the person who speaks poorly to his wife or too much

00:38:44.480 or there's a lot of sins out there or there are so many sins every night you know watching football

00:38:53.640 games that's not how it works in most versions of the church um and uh we've just sort of twisted it

00:39:06.400 on a tag oh we should have morality like this and it's like uh no i'm sorry a gay couple that is married

00:39:13.860 having sex is not more of a sin than an unmarried couple having sex than premarital sex biblically

00:39:21.500 speaking do you want to ban premarital sex as well or is it just you pick on the sins where you think

00:39:30.200 you can get the public on your side if it's the second then you're just a bully and that's not

00:39:36.740 that's not what jesus asked of you let these people know that they're sinning yes teach them the bible

00:39:41.360 yes but you cannot possibly adjudicate all of the christian moral system people need to see the light

00:39:48.860 of it and live by it themselves the the thing that really gets me about these individuals who are like

00:39:54.640 yeah we need to make it part of the party platform that like we you know ban gay marriage and stuff like

00:40:01.200 that it's like they they are so pathetic looking from my perspective because they know this isn't

00:40:06.580 helping with their mainstream issues they know that doing stuff like this only hurts republicans

00:40:11.240 chances of victory they are just larping about a world that they don't exist in you don't live in a world

00:40:19.020 where your moral framework is the dominant moral framework you look as buffoonish as the man who

00:40:27.440 plays with the samurai sword and the and daydreams about living in a world where their skill was a

00:40:34.440 samurai sword is going to matter they don't live in feudal japan you don't live in 1950s america okay

00:40:42.680 you live in modern america so why don't we work for the things that can actually get past

00:40:48.960 and help all of us on the right instead of doing this whole splitting splitting splitting splitting

00:40:54.720 splitting purity test when the only way to pass your purity test is to be some extremist that doesn't

00:41:01.020 represent a right-wing voter like this is insane at this point all right even if you disagree with us

00:41:09.360 on this why are you fighting you're fighting because you are larping you are the fat bearded man in a

00:41:17.340 fedora flailing around a katana in his backyard dreaming about the day he can use this in a fight

00:41:25.660 to the death in feudal japan he doesn't live in feudal japan you don't live in 1950s america as a

00:41:31.060 quick aside here some people in the comments of another video were trying to argue against gay

00:41:36.020 marriage from quote unquote a secular perspective except marriage isn't a secular thing it's it's not

00:41:43.280 the piece of paper that they want it's the ability to undergo the particular marriage ceremony that

00:41:51.480 they want to to be this new status of married instead of not married that's what comes from a

00:41:59.180 marriage because it's a religious thing and because there are some versions of various religions

00:42:05.040 that allow gay people to marry we as a secular society should not be preventing it and if we do

00:42:13.360 then we have the government come in and begin to adjudicate which interpretations of the bible are

00:42:19.720 correct and which are wrong and which religions are we allowed to practice and i don't think any real

00:42:25.080 christian wants government bureaucrats coming in and saying these parts of the bible should be seen this

00:42:31.720 way and these parts of the bible should be seen this way because we know exactly what they're

00:42:35.620 going to do when they start doing that um that's anyway and and i think that this is one of the

00:42:42.080 things that i've been angling for recently is to get you on the board of the log cabin republicans

00:42:46.960 because i think that they're now the only group that really supports well and we got to raise a lot

00:42:50.960 of money for them i don't know what to tell you we've been told if we can raise more money for them we

00:42:55.100 can we can get on the board which would be fun base camp donors please donate to the log cabin

00:43:00.220 republicans and say i came here from base camp what i love about this episode is that oh by the way

00:43:08.880 people who don't know what the log cabin republicans are it's the gay republican lobby they're really

00:43:12.400 awesome they're fantastic they're actually like really fun people gay republican parties are like

00:43:17.180 the most fun parties you can go to because they are all so based and by based and this is the thing

00:43:24.440 a lot of people they're like this isn't based because it's not like conservative or straight

00:43:28.600 conservative if you're just repeating everything that your group wants to hear you are the emphasis

00:43:34.840 of being yeah being based means saying what you believe is true regardless of what your group or

00:43:42.280 other groups or society is going to say about it you know like we've had some of our gay friends be

00:43:46.480 like well i agree with conservatives on everything but like they're they're gay issues i just can't i'm

00:43:50.760 like that's not the the mainstream even in trump's platform at the rnc the republican platform this year

00:43:57.300 does not have marriage as being between a man and a woman it's like if you can think to find marriage

00:44:02.080 and we should try to make you know more marriages happen but it does not we should and we should

00:44:06.480 marriage is great very so okay here's where things left off with the survey because i i obviously can't

00:44:13.000 take this survey i it just is not going to work out well back yeah yeah i i responded to her to the

00:44:19.000 ceo of this organization and i said oh you know thanks i've added this to my list of surveys to

00:44:24.620 review tldr you know we're very transparent about our stance on lgbtq plus issues on our podcast and i

00:44:32.780 linked to our podcast so oh shoot they're gonna find out if they actually i don't i don't think

00:44:38.600 they'll watch any of it and i'm like you know the gist is that you know we support cultural sovereignty

00:44:42.680 you know that we believe everyone should be allowed to live the lifestyle that they want but we're

00:44:45.940 also against imposing your cultural values on other groups aka we're against cultural imperialism

00:44:51.340 and that's that's just where i left it so these lovely these lovely people from keystone equality

00:44:57.340 may come to the channel and absolutely hate everything that we're saying here and hate the

00:45:01.640 fact that we've highlighted their candidate survey and suggested that they're leaving room for bad

00:45:07.440 actors that is ultimately going to damage the lgbtq plus community by giving them a bad name

00:45:11.840 they're murdering gay people they are they are okay yeah malcolm's shooting no no it's it's very

00:45:19.120 clear like especially the one where you can't be prosecuted for lying to someone about your hiv

00:45:23.200 status that hurts no no that they were that was in opposition to increased penalties but yeah i mean

00:45:30.420 yeah no no no no no they said hold on but you you you didn't read it correctly then they said that

00:45:36.260 your hiv status should not be able to increase the penalties you are subject for for any form of

00:45:43.240 action what that means is a hiv person telling someone i don't have hiv and sleeping with them

00:45:49.960 should not legally be treated any differently than a non-hiv person telling someone they don't have

00:45:54.620 hiv and sleeping with them the hiv cannot be taken into consideration when the when when the legal

00:46:01.160 status is judged it would make it impossible to in any way punish someone for lying about their hiv

00:46:07.720 status that's the intention of that law and that will kill gay people simone convinced me of one

00:46:14.580 possible alternative as to what this wording may mean it may be to prevent higher penalties in great

00:46:22.160 cases where the attacker had hiv positive status i don't see this as particularly better because

00:46:29.800 who would a gay man be graping but another gay man so it just further victimizes the gay community

00:46:38.680 because i can't think of any other instance where hiv status would be taken into account for more

00:46:43.560 punishment in a crime other than grape or lying to someone about it well maybe we can share a link

00:46:48.780 to the google survey which they might take down but what i can say here's our one nice thing we're

00:46:52.220 going to say okay is that they used a google form and most of these packs most of these organizations

00:46:59.220 they give you a freaking like pdf that you're supposed to fill out there's like no room to

00:47:04.700 put anything it's like terribly antiquated it looks like it was copied three times from like a

00:47:10.180 paper printout at least they are civilized in technology okay so good guys love it love you too

00:47:18.340 thank you malcolm okay bye okay bye love you okay okay

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The Positions of Modern ＂LGBT+ Rights＂ Orgs Will Shock You (Proof from Their Candidate Vetting)

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