The Positions of Modern "LGBT+ Rights" Orgs Will Shock You (Proof from Their Candidate Vetting)
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In this episode, we discuss the proposed ban on same-sex marriage in Pennsylvania, the gay flag controversy, and the LGBTQ+ flag controversy. We also discuss the anti-gay flag controversy and the "Colonizer Flag" controversy.
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are saying basically that the state of pennsylvania is like you know what if you receive gender
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affirming care as a minor you should have the right up until age 30 to sue your health care
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provider for offering that gender affirming care to you if it turns out that they were acting
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in a completely flagrantly irresponsible manner oh shit yeah so they're like no no no no because
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i think they know that a lot of people who are getting gender affirming care as minors are going
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to sue their health care providers when when they reach their 20s when they reach their 30s when
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they're fully myelinated when they learn more and they're like oh no no no we can't do that so you
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can be tried with reckless endangerment if you know you have hiv and you intentionally hide that from
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another individual and give them hiv i can't even believe that they are trying to prevent this
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they oppose increasing criminal this is what i talk about i don't know how you can be pro-gay and pro-democrat
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at the same time like you have to who who suffers from this being removed from the law who is going
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to predominantly suffer from this being removed it's going to be gays who are trying to practice
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safe sex that is who's going to suffer for this would you like to know more hello everyone in a
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previous episode we mentioned that simone got a letter in the mail because you know she's running for
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office and they ask her what are your thoughts on various issues and with a lot of them you know when
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it's like an anti-gun organization she can just basically throw it in the trash because she knows
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she's not going to come off smelling like roses to these groups but i was super excited about this
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because this this came from this group called keystone equality they they say that they support
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lgbtq plus rights and i'm like oh my gosh like this is one of those things where you know we are more
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socially progressive at least when it comes to our our cultural sovereignty stance you know we may not
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you know we may be on the conservative end but we very much support people having the freedom to
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pursue whatever culture they want so this is slam dunk like i i should take this candidate survey
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so that they can endorse me and i can show to democrats and libertarians and more socially
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progressive people in my district that you know i may be a candidate worth consideration i was so
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excited and then i dive into it and i'm like you know what i should have i should have known
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that there were going to be problems because their logo is not the classic gay flag
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or the republican gay flag i call it it is as i think one of the base camp followers named it
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which is the best name the colonizer flag which includes the additional triangle of white pink blue
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brown and black because race is a sexual orientation i i do not understand how like anyone who grew up
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with like a traditional understanding of non-discrimination this is wild that this flag thing
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happened the the rainbow represented everything under the rainbow that was that was the point
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yeah the full spectrum less inclusive we need to we it's it's so freaking animal farm i really wish i
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had a good animal farm clip i could use every time i bring this up because it's so insane it's like
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well yes i know we're all equal but some of us are more equal than others and need special representation
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on the flag and we'll just erase a little bit of the historic gay identity with every little
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notch and this is where i think in this survey and we're going over this survey people are going to
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learn that the progressive like what the quote-unquote progressives are advocating for
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with gay bills and lgbt bills these days it is not something that like any sane person would want
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yeah this is it's it's no longer about protections it's about um providing privileged status to people
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and and frankly creating a liability for genuinely lgbtq plus people because what you're more doing than
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anything at this point is creating space for bad actors so let's get into these questions because
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i found them to be i was so excited i was like oh i'm gonna you know i'm just getting all these all
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he's right you know i love getting questions right i love teacher you know saying that i was correct
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and i i got increasingly alarmed through this she almost every single one but two all but two bad
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guy i get the f i'd rather say that they've become the bad guys and i am mortified at how yeah i i just
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i i think that sometimes i can just read off some of the questions and you can stop when we yeah let's
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just let's just go into it right now did you vote in favor of the fairness act or if you're not an
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incumbent did you support adding sexual orientation and gender identity as protected characteristics
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in pennsylvania's non-discrimination civil rights act so what what made me uncomfortable about that
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is this is just adding additional red tape whereby people are going to be able to
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well and gender identity it doesn't it doesn't say you know like uh that would include things like
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non-binary which is basically a class that anyone can opt into well yeah so basically this enables you
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to you could like this enables any abusive actor to suddenly say oh well i'm non-binary and now i'm
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going to sue you because even though you fired me because i showed up late five weeks in a row
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and i'm an asshole and i didn't follow the company rules i'm gonna say it's because i was
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non-binary it allows everyone to become a protected class which is obviously a bad idea
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yeah then there's also and this sort of more just runs against our cultural sovereignty rules it says
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do you support legislation that would ban the practice of conversion therapy for minors in
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pennsylvania now you and i in the pragmatist guide to sexuality clearly state that like conversion
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therapy doesn't work unless it's like literally subjecting you to gay orgies until you get super
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saturated and tired of them for a while but then you have to like re-up that but this is based on the
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evidence we have it based on the evidence yeah so like one the only form of gay conversion therapy that
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works is like intense gay orgies that kind of get you just kind of done with it for a while but you
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have to like re-inoculate so one it's not effective anyway but two like to to prevent families from with
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their minors you know giving them the form of therapy or like sort of religious treatment that you
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think is appropriate runs against our cultural sovereignty stance so i couldn't answer that
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so to add some color to our position here i would be okay with banning camps based on specific
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modalities of treatment like what happens to the children at a camp if these camps are doing something
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illegal with the kids then of course they should not be legal what i am against is banning camps based
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on the intent of the treatment because while you have said no known therapy modality is effective
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helping same-sex attracted individuals either transition what they find most attractive or
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suppressing their attraction that doesn't mean that it is impossible for such a treatment method to
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one day be invented and some people some children even you know i know when i was younger i had gay
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friends who would constantly tell me how much they wish they could just not be gay there are young people
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who if a treatment like this existed would want said treatment and to deny that they exist is to
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deny the lived experiences of hundreds of thousands of individuals however what i would be open to
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is a requirement that sending a kid to one of these camps requires the consent of both parents and i would
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note here that people would be like well then how do you you know if you think that this isn't something
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that can be cured for example quote unquote cured why are you okay with religious frameworks that you
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know tell people to suppress their sexual desires and it's because you don't have to act on them okay
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you can decide yes this is my preference but it is not my lifestyle choice and i want and it's so funny
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that like we get these comments from urban monoculture brain to people who don't get it
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you go you want to force you know you want to allow some cultures to force same-sex attracted
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individuals to you know marry a woman or join the clergy and it's like no i don't want to do that
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i want to unlike you allow same-sex attracted individuals to make choices about which culture
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they identify with yeah and this is just one option this is one way you can choose to do same-sex
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identification you can also choose to convert into a different culture that's all about
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flamboyant gay life or you can convert into a culture that's like oh you're a gay female that
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means you're a man um or you can convert into a culture that's like oh you're you're just gonna
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be super non-binary and not talk about it and do whatever it is you want like i don't care
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you're the one who wants to remove choice from same-sex attracted individuals yeah and that's that's
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the problem is is that's that's coercion when when you start to dictate that so here's another
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question wait hold on i wanted to point out here okay a same-sex attracted catholic priest
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is not not going out there having sex with people because the catholics are forcing him to
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he chose that lifestyle yeah okay we don't live in a catholic monarchy you are the one trying to
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remove choice from him i am trying to give him the maximum amount of choice you just don't see it that
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way because you see a choice to not be a member of your cultural group to not instantly gratify every
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desire you have as being a non-choice yeah so another question they ask is do you support adding
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sexual orientation and gender identity and expression to pennsylvania's hate crimes law
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and strengthening penalties for those who commit hate crimes so obviously i couldn't answer yes to
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this either because you know we express candid opinions about um being transgender about youth gender
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transition about lgbt stuff that could be interpreted like perhaps in the uk where there are stronger hate
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crime laws you know as a as a hate crime you know jk rowling has has played with these rules on twitter
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you know in in the uk so you know we have a youtube channel where we comment on these issues we comment on
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the policies and we talk about the green lines and if i was in support of adding you know strengthening the
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penalties and adding sexual orientation and gender expression to the hate crime laws in our state
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i could be subjecting us to genuine legal liability like personally so i couldn't support that one
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again you cannot extend hate crimes opt-in sexual identities and i know non-binary people will be like
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it's not a choice but like right but bad actors bad actors can make it a choice yeah like i mean
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there's that one there's that one shooter who allegedly identified as as gender and they're
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like oh no no no that doesn't count but like it does but it would count under the hate crime law so
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you don't get to like disavow him because it hurts your community that now you're identified with a
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mass shooter yeah um but you would disavow him like and that's the thing like when when you're
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legislating you have to keep in mind you're not just legislating for the people you're defending you
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also have to legislate around bad actors who may use this against the very people you're trying to
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protect which of course like you know loops into the whole turf issue well this is the problem in
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australia right now is somebody in australia is being sued because they tried to keep uh transgender
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women off of their app transgender women who didn't pass so keep in mind transgender women were allowed
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just not non-passing and that was considered you know illegal in in australia you are not allowed to
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have lesbian only spaces from a legal perspective now because anyone can identify this way you there is no
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cut off for what is transgender well now any cis male sex pest can go on lesbian dating apps and
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harass lesbians like yeah of course it's gonna piss off so that's that's another issue right okay so
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let's go to the next yeah i'm like okay come on there has to be something here like i'm i'm an ally i'm an
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ally do you support efforts to modernize and simplify the process for legal name changes including the
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removal of the requirement that name changes be advertised in local newspapers or law journals now keep in
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mind this is for people who have things like pending debts who may have committed crimes like the thing
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is now this is another law that i can't support because it could be abused by bad actors and i don't
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really see why like if i'm changing my my gender and i need to legally change my name is it so bad that
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i advertise in a i mean no one no one even reads the newspaper no no but you're absolutely right like
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the reason why that exists as a law is so people can't use this to like escape debt or exactly defraud
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people yeah and again like these are not you you're not being forced to post it on facebook to your
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friends and family if this is a private and sensitive matter this is this is advertising this
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in in a in a place where if there are legal pending or financial issues people will see it but
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again only bad actors would abuse that so again i can't i can't do this like okay come on
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there's got to be something okay well oh here's another one we're totally gonna lose on do you
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oppose efforts to prevent transgender students from participating in all publicly sanctioned for
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or funded school athletic programs according to their gender identity well no that's totally not fair
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you know if you have you know a 17 year old natal male who's transitioned to female who's you know
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competing in athletics he's going to absolutely school on average of course is his female competitors
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this is not this is not where i love it where they will come to you with like studies that have
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obviously been like combed through by the ultra monocultures that like and and and i think that
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people don't understand what happens when they do that when you come to me with a study and i can look
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at this person and be like obviously they have an advantage and you go yeah but look here and
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if you if you split the data this way they don't that doesn't make me believe that they don't have
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an advantage it makes me distrust academic institutions and studies okay everyone can see
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that we're being gaslit on this like it's not hard you have to be like a religious level of delusional
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to not be able to look at pictures like the ones i'm putting on the screen and be like this person has
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an obvious biological advantage and then you can say well well well well well well some humans have
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a biological advantage over other humans and that's unfair and it's like yeah that's what sports
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were about we created women's leagues so that women could compete so yeah it's women because their
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bodies are on average quite different which is is yeah if you want to create transgender leagues
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that's fine if you want to create mixed gender leagues that's fine i am open to a world where
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everyone can strive and and succeed but when you in mass allow trans individuals into women's leagues
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you create an environment where young girls who have worked very very very hard have their opportunity
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to be on top taken from them yeah and that is incredibly cruel also as somebody with a number of
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trans friends what i've heard from them they view laws that prevent people like leah thomas from
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unfairly engaging in these competitions as primarily protecting trans individuals it hurts the entire
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trans community when you see somebody obviously taking advantage of the carve outs that are meant to
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protect trans people to get an advantage over other individuals we used to see jokes about
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trans people competing in sports teams and being allowed in women's changing rooms as being
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fundamentally anti-trans because it was seen as so obviously an unfair thing to do
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miss man come in dear have a seat take off your bra if you'd like i need to talk
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see i have this problem i have a terrible secret well cindy we all have our little secrets
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sometimes we do things we're not so proud of to gain the athletic edge on the competition
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sometimes those secrets come back to haunt us and i also need to point out here in the case of
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someone like leah thomas when you create these carve outs that mal actors are going to use them
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for their own sexual gratification and to well goon on girls to be a sex pest if you look at somebody like
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leah thomas here's a quote from one of her teammates we did not give our consent they did not ask for our
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consent but in that locker room we turn around and there's a 6'4 biological man dropping his pants
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and watching us undress and we were exposed to male genitalia i mean do do people really support this
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like do they really know what's happening that you have other underage girls in this room and they
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should be protected from somebody just being able to say i identify as trans now i get to go in a
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woman's locker room and ogle at underage girls and force them to see my genitalia do you not see that
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somebody might be abusing these sorts of carve outs and that this abuse doesn't just hurt these
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underage girls but also real trans people and i as somebody who believes the trans narrative that
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real trans people exist that there are real people in the world who are born the wrong gender and just
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want to be seen as the correct gender do i believe for a second that somebody who actually just wanted
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to be seen as a girl would be walking around a girl's locker room with their penis hanging out
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that they would be ogling at naked girls in a girl's locker room do i believe that no no i i don't if
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that is what trans is but if trans is the ability for a guy with an exhibitionism fetish to assume an
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identity that allows him into girls locker rooms and forces girls to look at his genitalia well that's a
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different thing that's not what i was told trans was and that's not what i believe anyone who is
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really trans believes what trans is any real trans person is going to want laws on the books that
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prevent individuals like leah thomas from engendering ill will on their community even if it means that
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they have to undergo really pretty trivial sacrifices like not being able to participate in
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intramural sports yeah so there's there's another one here that's actually quite fascinating they
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ask do you oppose extending the statute of limitations under which a person could file a
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civil claim related to gender affirming care which could cause providers to leave the state in response
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to higher insurance premiums so to give a little bit more color here there is an amendment a house bill
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138 that would according to keystone equality which is just i guess i'm going to out them the
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organizations that's asking these questions they would inappropriately increase the statute of
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limitations for gender affirming care of any kind for up to the age of 30 in cases where a minor
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was provided such care they say that if passed legislation would have the effect of making the cost of
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liability insurance prohibited for health care workers seeking to provide affirming care for
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transgender people and that the bill intentionally targets a transgender community by making health
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care harder to obtain for all transgender people in other words they're saying basically that the
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state of pennsylvania is like you know what if you receive gender affirming care as a minor you should
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have the right up until age 30 to sue your health care provider for offering that gender affirming care
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to you if it turns out that they were acting in a completely flagrantly irresponsible manner and you
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you regret the care that you were given and you were not given care with a lot of shit yeah so they're
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like no no no no because i think they know that a lot of people who are getting gender affirming care
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as minors are going to sue their health care providers when when they reach their 20s when they
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reach their 30s when they're fully myelinated when they learn more and they're like oh no no no we
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can't do that because they can't afford the liability insurance for that that's monstrous i know i know i
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know so i'm like oh man like i want to reframe this in in in in in like a tighter form okay they
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are trying to make it illegal for children that they have groomed and then believe like a kid i'm
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not saying like the parents think the children have been minors like a minor gets convinced by their
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psychologist or something like that to get this care later ends up realizing that they were brainwashed
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into getting this or that they weren't really told what the alternatives are which is something we know
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is happening at scale now from numerous leaks that have happened okay then they go back and they try
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to sue the provider and they would otherwise win the lawsuit no we're not saying just anyone who
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spuriously decides that they want to sue their provider of this stuff yes it is trying to make it so
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that this individual even if they would have won this lawsuit won't be allowed to based on the evidence
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because the statute of limitations will pass probably provable that they were brainwashed
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that they cannot go back on this and keep in mind this isn't even that long it says by the age of 30
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right like yeah that's that's the the that's where they're trying to extend the statute of limitations
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with this pennsylvania house bill that is not that long yeah um so they're basically comping
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right here what i'm seeing here that they know this wave of lawsuits is coming yeah they are trying to
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prevent it because they know internally yeah well it's not just that it's not just that because
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one if if this does pass it will make liability insurance more expensive for health care providers
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who choose to provide um gender-affirming care that because of the level of misconduct yeah
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yeah yeah misconduct wasn't high as to how big is this flood a detransitor is going to be
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well we now know from the study that came out in 2024 development of gender non-contentedness
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during adolescence and early adulthood that of 11 year olds who are discontent with their gender
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over 90 percent of them by the age of 23 are 100 percent content with their gender it just turned out
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that they were gay so you are if you put 11 year olds who are discontent with their gender on
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gender-affirming care sacrificing castrating nine gay kids for every one trans kid you are quote-unquote
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saving that sounds like a pretty anti-gay position to me the systematic and mass castration of gay
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children well now they could argue you know because again this is this is the cost of liability
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insurance so they could argue that well this is insurers expecting that that there's bad conduct
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and there's going to be a lot of expensive lawsuits and then therefore charging prohibitively
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expensive no no no i yeah i i do too but i'm just i'm just i'm just making this as balanced as i
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possibly can even though i'm i'm obviously biased but anyway so like i can't i can't say yes to that
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that's not even that's not even like that is genuinely monstrous that you would try to prevent that
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i know here's here's another question from hold on hold on i want to point out a few other things
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this is like if if they know and i suspect that most of the trans community now knows that puberty
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blockers have long-term consequences this means all of the doctors who are telling their patients that
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which we basically know from the evidence isn't true anymore they can be sued they don't want that
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to happen because lying to the patient is a key part of gender-affirming care but anyway continue
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yeah so this this next question a little more difficult i would say do you oppose efforts at
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the state or school district level to restrict curricula ban books or curtail other age-appropriate
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educational materials or individual expression of the instructor because of lgbtq content now i mean
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we don't care well we don't care if you know a teacher is gay we don't care if a teacher says that
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they're married to someone of the same gender or if they're trans or whatever but yeah i mean
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in general content that promotes any type of pairing is being the correct type of pairing
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is something that well no i'll put on screen here a a tiktok where you will see a teacher discussing
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what she is doing with her elementary school class oh yeah this has been my first year in preschool with
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a class of my own teaching alongside another queer neurodivergent educator and we have been
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rocking our two's class we've been talking about gender and skin color and consent and empathy and
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our bodies and autonomy it's been fabulous but our teaching team is shifting and a new person is being
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onboarded someone with many years of experience so today at the lunch table when the topic of gender and
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genitals came up one of our students plainly looked up and said well i'm a girl today but i know that
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teacher co isn't no they're envy and the look on the incoming teacher's face was priceless she was
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shocked in a good way and she just looked around at the two of us and said this class is incredible and
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she's talking to them about genitals about gender expression about she's like yeah when the topic of
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genitals came up i'm like whoa why is genitals coming up with kindergartens as a regular lunchroom
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discussion and why are all of the other teachers okay that this just happened because that's part of
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the story you know why are you indoctrinating the kids into your culture's framework around gender
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which frankly is a fringe framework it is and i think this is something that fundamentally that
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the urban monoculture like people who are really seeped in it struggle to understand it's gender
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is at the end of the day a completely cultural phenomenon the way that our culture relates to
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gender there is a truth of gender which is sexual expression right but the way you relate to sexual
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expression is completely well and gender expression right so when i talk about like x y chromosomes and
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the difference that makes and how people develop and sometimes you can have intersex individuals
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and different cultures will relate to those individuals differently but most cultures have
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chosen just to lump people broadly into one of two genders whichever one they seem more like
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but that's a cultural decision the urban monoculture has decided to atomize this almost as much as they can
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but that that doesn't mean that that's like necessarily the right way to react to it and when i look to
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the unaliving rates within the urban monoculture it seems to me it obviously isn't the right way to react
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to it so am i okay with this system that seems to be correlated with high rates of unaliving oneself
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and increasing rates as acceptance for the lgbt community is accepted more so it's not due to
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discrimination because the rates are increasing as acceptance is increasing am i okay with that my child
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being exposed to that cultural system no and and and this is this is one of the things that always
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got me about the florida law like the don't say gay law i know the person who worked on drafting this
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law and i had actually believed the urban monocultures lie that the law made it so that gay teachers
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could not tell their students that they were gay and actually among republicans when they were drafting
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the law she's like yeah actually in the first draft of the law it could have been read that way and we
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the republicans before it went out changed it so it couldn't be read that way because that is
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something that modern republicans actually want they just don't want it's brainwashed okay let me let
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me go to the next one this is actually interesting i've never heard of this before they ask do you
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support prohibiting the lgbtq plus panic defense in legal proceedings in pennsylvania so i asked perplexity
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what this was because i'd never heard of it before basically it's one not even really a defense
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that's used in murder cases a lot but basically it's it's something that sometimes defenders try
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to use to say like oh this person was so freaked out related to the other person's lgbtq plus status
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that that's why they murdered them or did something you are underselling it the panic defense comes into
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play when a person lies about their sexual or gender yeah that's where it most likely comes
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into it it happens if a today they'd be trans historically they would have been gay you know
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there's been changing the way we relate to gender at the society but a a trans person for example
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lies to a person uh that they were cis um and then when that person realizes often because they
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haven't undergone you know full they they say oh you i just had sex with you and now i see you have
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a penis or you know something like that they freak out and they murder the person this is obviously a
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horrifying thing but here's sort of the way i would put it do i think that muslims should be able to
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use it the defense in a murder case this person secretly slipped me pork intentionally because i view
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that as a similar kind of offense in this offense the individual has knowingly done something that
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the muslim thinks is going to cause them to be tortured for all eternity and maliciously done it
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for their own momentary pleasure maybe a laugh or something like that while i do think it is a truly
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monstrous thing for an individual to do because that's that's why these people are so mad like they're
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acting like they're mad because the person is kind of it's not something that's used to get people off
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the hook it's just it's it's something that's used in a court of law to be like they were driven insane
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they panicked because of their belief structure and the reason why a lot of people who support lgbtq
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rights are like hey let's just not allow people to use this defense at all is it's offensive to even
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suggest that being lgbtq plus in some way would cause someone to freak out that much that's not
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what they're freaking out about that's the point they are not freaking out that their partner is gay
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they're freaking out that they just had sex with a guy i know i know i know but but malcolm what
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you're missing is that is that the reason why they're trying to remove this from defense cases
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is that that shouldn't be something that's normalized like you shouldn't be allowed to to wake up next to
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someone who you thought was one sex and is another sex they shouldn't be allowed to hold their religious
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beliefs exactly yes so anyway that's you know i don't i i think people should be allowed to give
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that context in the court of law because like like to your point if someone was fed pork when it's
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against their religion i would want to know that in a court case because i couldn't i would want to
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know like why were they freaking out so much like this is weird you know you need to know the context
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it should be admissible in a court context but it shouldn't necessarily get them off but that's
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the way but it doesn't and it doesn't it and it hasn't they're basically just saying this shouldn't
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be discussed at all so that's that's one and it's interesting to know which is actually kind of
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insane the court who's making the decision shouldn't be allowed to know that you know the
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context into sleeping with a guy yeah in their mind maybe not another person's mind but in their
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mind they thought it was a guy so anyway this back to this next question ties back to what we were
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discussing in terms of like hiv positivity in the lgbtq plus world they ask do you oppose increasing
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criminal penalties for people who are hiv positive when those who are not hiv positive would not be
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subject to those increased penalties for the same offense so here they're basically saying like you
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know should people be penalized for being irresponsible when they have hiv and could hurt other people
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because no no no no this is this is about a specific legal statute so you can be tried with
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it's like reckless endangerment right i don't think it's yes it's reckless endangerment if you know you
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have hiv and you intentionally hide that from another individual and give them hiv i i i can't even
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believe that they are trying to prevent this from the case that we would yeah that they would they
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oppose increasing criminal penalties this is what i talk about i don't know how you can be pro-gay and
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pro-democrat at the same time like you have to who who suffers from this being removed from the law
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who is going to predominantly suffer from this being removed it's going to be gays who are trying to
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practice safe sex that is who's going to suffer for this who benefits from this gays who are preying
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on other gay yeah yeah bad actors bad actors that's that's a key thing here that is why would you try to
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protect that if you wanted to protect the gay community because they don't care about the gay
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right right right um they care about the bad actors that's so really it i actually found two questions
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here that i do support so that and they're right next to each other one is do you support guaranteeing
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the rights of lgbtq plus parents to seek and retain custody of their children including foster and
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adopted children without bias based on their status totally that it should have nothing to do with it
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and two the second one that we would finally say get to say yes to do you support equal rights for
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legally married same sex same gender couples as those granted legally married couples who are the
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opposite sex or gender totally doesn't matter you know i actually want to push back on what some of
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our fans will say on these two issues oh yeah the one is is some of our fans will say how dare you
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allow a gay couple to adopt kids like what about the effects that has on the kids i'm like
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do you know how bad foster care is right this is demonstrably better for the child
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like anyone who who typically passes the requirements to adopt a child or whatever you
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know like and also one having a kid so one adopting is really hard if you can adopt you're probably way
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above like the standard of most parents who biologically have kids and two if you are
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conscientious enough to make the money and go through the intense hardship of having children
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especially if you're a gay couple lesbians it's a tiny bit easier but gay is like really hard to
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have kids then you're probably way better why we can't trust the data to that says because if you
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look at the data on do gay parents have a negative effect on their children growing up it turns out
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that they actually have much more successful and mentally healthy kids yeah because they're like
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but the people who are capable of having kids yeah the reason why this is the case is because of the
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gating the barriers to entry people to end up getting access to kids so it basically skews the
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study but this is relevant if you're trying to bar these couples who are having better outcomes from
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even adopting when keep in mind kids who are adopted can often if they want to say i don't want to be
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with this family anymore or i find this situation abusive but they're choosing not to because they
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believe this is better for them than what the alternative would be how dare you make that decision for
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the child then the second case that the gay married couple should have the same rights we had a
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comment in our last video they said well these people aren't married it's not a real marriage
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because you can't have a real marriage between i'm like from your cultural perspective that's true
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but there are versions of christianity and there are versions of judaism and there are versions of
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islam and there are versions of buddhism that do believe that so you can't just annul other religions
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because it's not what your religion yeah yeah yeah that comes back to cultural sovereignty rival
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that is being insane one and then two even even if like like you 100 believe this and you think that
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our society is made worse for them being able to marry right you know you don't have the voting power
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to enforce that you know all you do is hurt republican chances of winning by going out there
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and being a hardliner and trying to get this into republican policy positions why are you doing this
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even the majority of the republican base don't want this you know over is it was 61 the last time i
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looked at the republican base not the democrat base the republican base wants gays to be able to get
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married yeah especially the younger republican base so it's only a matter of time until this is
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yeah it's like 30 percent only 30 percent of the young republican base didn't want gays to be able
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to get married yeah it is it is no you are not helping anyone and are you even helping the people
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you're banning from getting married do you think okay do you really want to do you really want to
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suppress marriage is this no no no that's not what i mean you prevent a gay couple from getting
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married increased or decreased the probability that they find jesus obviously you've decreased
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the probability fair point because they're stuck in a degenerate you know uh yeah you're forcing them
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away from they now see you as the enemy because you kept them from entering a marriage and i also think
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here this is where i get to the ordering of sins and i think that this is something where classic
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christianity is incredibly unbiblical and i find it very frustrating okay you are a sinner but jesus
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still saved you how dare you try to deny his salvation to somebody else because they're going through some
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phase in their life or something like that right um when we look at a rank order of sins yes i think
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if you go with a classical interpretation of christianity sleeping with a partner of the same sex
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is absolutely busted okay do i think that that prevents these people from getting into heaven
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if you read the bible no more than the the person who speaks poorly to his wife or too much
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or there's a lot of sins out there or there are so many sins every night you know watching football
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games that's not how it works in most versions of the church um and uh we've just sort of twisted it
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on a tag oh we should have morality like this and it's like uh no i'm sorry a gay couple that is married
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having sex is not more of a sin than an unmarried couple having sex than premarital sex biblically
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speaking do you want to ban premarital sex as well or is it just you pick on the sins where you think
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you can get the public on your side if it's the second then you're just a bully and that's not
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that's not what jesus asked of you let these people know that they're sinning yes teach them the bible
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yes but you cannot possibly adjudicate all of the christian moral system people need to see the light
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of it and live by it themselves the the thing that really gets me about these individuals who are like
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yeah we need to make it part of the party platform that like we you know ban gay marriage and stuff like
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that it's like they they are so pathetic looking from my perspective because they know this isn't
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helping with their mainstream issues they know that doing stuff like this only hurts republicans
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chances of victory they are just larping about a world that they don't exist in you don't live in a world
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where your moral framework is the dominant moral framework you look as buffoonish as the man who
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plays with the samurai sword and the and daydreams about living in a world where their skill was a
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samurai sword is going to matter they don't live in feudal japan you don't live in 1950s america okay
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you live in modern america so why don't we work for the things that can actually get past
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and help all of us on the right instead of doing this whole splitting splitting splitting splitting
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splitting purity test when the only way to pass your purity test is to be some extremist that doesn't
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represent a right-wing voter like this is insane at this point all right even if you disagree with us
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on this why are you fighting you're fighting because you are larping you are the fat bearded man in a
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fedora flailing around a katana in his backyard dreaming about the day he can use this in a fight
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to the death in feudal japan he doesn't live in feudal japan you don't live in 1950s america as a
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quick aside here some people in the comments of another video were trying to argue against gay
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marriage from quote unquote a secular perspective except marriage isn't a secular thing it's it's not
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the piece of paper that they want it's the ability to undergo the particular marriage ceremony that
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they want to to be this new status of married instead of not married that's what comes from a
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marriage because it's a religious thing and because there are some versions of various religions
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that allow gay people to marry we as a secular society should not be preventing it and if we do
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then we have the government come in and begin to adjudicate which interpretations of the bible are
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correct and which are wrong and which religions are we allowed to practice and i don't think any real
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christian wants government bureaucrats coming in and saying these parts of the bible should be seen this
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way and these parts of the bible should be seen this way because we know exactly what they're
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going to do when they start doing that um that's anyway and and i think that this is one of the
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things that i've been angling for recently is to get you on the board of the log cabin republicans
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because i think that they're now the only group that really supports well and we got to raise a lot
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of money for them i don't know what to tell you we've been told if we can raise more money for them we
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can we can get on the board which would be fun base camp donors please donate to the log cabin
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republicans and say i came here from base camp what i love about this episode is that oh by the way
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people who don't know what the log cabin republicans are it's the gay republican lobby they're really
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awesome they're fantastic they're actually like really fun people gay republican parties are like
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the most fun parties you can go to because they are all so based and by based and this is the thing
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a lot of people they're like this isn't based because it's not like conservative or straight
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conservative if you're just repeating everything that your group wants to hear you are the emphasis
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of being yeah being based means saying what you believe is true regardless of what your group or
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other groups or society is going to say about it you know like we've had some of our gay friends be
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like well i agree with conservatives on everything but like they're they're gay issues i just can't i'm
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like that's not the the mainstream even in trump's platform at the rnc the republican platform this year
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does not have marriage as being between a man and a woman it's like if you can think to find marriage
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and we should try to make you know more marriages happen but it does not we should and we should
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marriage is great very so okay here's where things left off with the survey because i i obviously can't
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take this survey i it just is not going to work out well back yeah yeah i i responded to her to the
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ceo of this organization and i said oh you know thanks i've added this to my list of surveys to
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review tldr you know we're very transparent about our stance on lgbtq plus issues on our podcast and i
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linked to our podcast so oh shoot they're gonna find out if they actually i don't i don't think
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they'll watch any of it and i'm like you know the gist is that you know we support cultural sovereignty
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you know that we believe everyone should be allowed to live the lifestyle that they want but we're
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also against imposing your cultural values on other groups aka we're against cultural imperialism
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and that's that's just where i left it so these lovely these lovely people from keystone equality
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may come to the channel and absolutely hate everything that we're saying here and hate the
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fact that we've highlighted their candidate survey and suggested that they're leaving room for bad
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actors that is ultimately going to damage the lgbtq plus community by giving them a bad name
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they're murdering gay people they are they are okay yeah malcolm's shooting no no it's it's very
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clear like especially the one where you can't be prosecuted for lying to someone about your hiv
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status that hurts no no that they were that was in opposition to increased penalties but yeah i mean
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yeah no no no no no they said hold on but you you you didn't read it correctly then they said that
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your hiv status should not be able to increase the penalties you are subject for for any form of
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action what that means is a hiv person telling someone i don't have hiv and sleeping with them
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should not legally be treated any differently than a non-hiv person telling someone they don't have
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hiv and sleeping with them the hiv cannot be taken into consideration when the when when the legal
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status is judged it would make it impossible to in any way punish someone for lying about their hiv
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status that's the intention of that law and that will kill gay people simone convinced me of one
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possible alternative as to what this wording may mean it may be to prevent higher penalties in great
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cases where the attacker had hiv positive status i don't see this as particularly better because
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who would a gay man be graping but another gay man so it just further victimizes the gay community
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because i can't think of any other instance where hiv status would be taken into account for more
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punishment in a crime other than grape or lying to someone about it well maybe we can share a link
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to the google survey which they might take down but what i can say here's our one nice thing we're
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going to say okay is that they used a google form and most of these packs most of these organizations
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they give you a freaking like pdf that you're supposed to fill out there's like no room to
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put anything it's like terribly antiquated it looks like it was copied three times from like a
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paper printout at least they are civilized in technology okay so good guys love it love you too
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thank you malcolm okay bye okay bye love you okay okay