Based Camp - August 04, 2025


The Racism of "Equality": How Woke Ideology Destroys Minority Communities


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 1 minute

Words per Minute

184.03835

Word Count

11,354

Sentence Count

678

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

74


Summary

In this episode, Simone and I discuss the racism of equality, and why it is not only a facade, but a real form of racism, and how it prevents ethnic groups from rising up within the United States.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be talking about
00:00:03.780 an interesting concept, which I'm going to call the racism of equality. It is going to be how
00:00:10.840 on a belief in absolute equality ultimately leads to racism and not only leads to racism
00:00:18.440 in the truest form of racism, but prevents ethnic groups from rising up. And I think that we have
00:00:26.780 this perception in the United States, which is not actually that accurate, that the United States
00:00:32.180 now, because the urban monoculture says, I'm not racist. When you join the urban monoculture,
00:00:39.280 you're not racist. You know, we progress, this is like the broadly progressive cultural group.
00:00:43.520 We even elected a black president that this means that racism, like functional racism has gone way
00:00:49.680 down and that blacks have like a much better position within America than they did in the 1950s,
00:00:55.120 which is always pointed out as like this evil, horrible time. Like you watch the shows,
00:00:59.060 oh, 1950s, 1950s, that's when everything was evil. That's when the true racism existed.
00:01:03.680 And I'm going to argue that it's mostly a facade that's changed and in a way that has actually hurt
00:01:08.880 a lot of the communities that it claims to have helped. And now you can go to me and say,
00:01:14.060 Malcolm, Malcolm, Malcolm, you can't possibly, you know, do you not know about the lynchings of the
00:01:19.360 1950s? Do you not know how every black American lived in constant fear in the 1950s?
00:01:25.660 When we went on our 1950s video, we were sure that all this stuff was true. Cause I didn't,
00:01:29.340 I didn't know about this stuff until I actually decided to look at the statistics.
00:01:32.060 Well, and in school, all we hear about is just, it was terrible. It was terrible. The discrimination,
00:01:37.820 the lynchings, the sit-ins, the terrible treatment. Yeah, absolutely.
00:01:43.120 So based on documented racial terror lynchings, considered historic crime murders, there are 24
00:01:50.960 known cases of black Americans being murdered in hate motivated incidents during the 1950s.
00:01:56.560 This figure comes from a compilation of association with the National Memorial of Peace and Justice
00:02:02.240 numbers listing specific victims, such as Hillard Bullocks Jr., 1950s, Immel Till, 1955, and Mack
00:02:08.960 Charles Parker, 1959. Note that historical records may undercount these numbers is what you really
00:02:15.240 have to lie on here. So keep in mind, we're talking about 24 numbers that we're aware of.
00:02:18.260 Now let's look at the last 10 years based on FBI and documented cases of hate crimes. There were at
00:02:26.360 least 27 known black American victims of hate crime from 2015 to 2024, with the possibility of an
00:02:32.980 additional underreported and unclassified instances. The FBI's total for anti-black hate crime murder
00:02:38.780 victims from 1991 to 2022 is 82. Okay. So this is like, okay, maybe you need to go to the previous 10
00:02:47.280 years. Maybe we just had a high number right now. Yeah. 82 from 1991 to 2022, averaging about two to three
00:02:55.100 per year. If you want to know the instances here, in 2015, Charleston Church shooting, nine victims.
00:03:02.160 2017, stabbings of Timothy Coleman. 2018, Kentucky grocery store shooting, two victims. 2020, killing
00:03:09.480 of Arbery, one victim. 2022, Buffalo supermarket shooting, 10 victims. In 2023, Jacksonville Dollar
00:03:17.020 Store General, three victims. So over the last 10 years, there were approximately 27 to 30 victims.
00:03:22.600 And in the 1950s, there were 24 victims. Now you might say, well, in the 1950s, certainly this was
00:03:30.920 underreported and we didn't get, maybe, but I would like to challenge your presumptive positions about
00:03:37.280 this. I bet you didn't think the numbers were not just close, but the current number of known killings
00:03:44.040 was higher, right? Like I bet that that surprises you to some extent. It should. No, no, let's look
00:03:51.120 good. You're like, oh, but they're wealthier. They're wealthier. They're wealthier now. Like
00:03:54.220 the, we've closed the income gap. So I'm putting on straight screen here. This is from the wall
00:03:58.400 street journal. This is not from some like conservative or crazy publication or something
00:04:02.680 like this. And this is the medium household wealth adjusted for inflation between black and
00:04:08.380 white families. As you can see from the 1950s, the black wells has increased almost none. Whereas
00:04:15.800 the white wells has increased like three X, four X. And then if you look here, you can go, okay,
00:04:22.460 well, let's look for another graph. Maybe the way that's being measured is weird. This is medium net
00:04:26.700 worth by age of, of, of household health. And so this is black versus white. And you can see
00:04:34.860 it really hasn't gone up that much here either. Whereas in white, you see this explosion in
00:04:40.240 wells. And this is, I mean, part of it's not surprising because even very progressive circles
00:04:47.180 keep haranguing any public channel that will listen to you about how, you know, there's this,
00:04:54.560 this systemic racism is a major issue and there's all this inequality and blah, blah, blah. But like,
00:04:58.540 it's worse and we've been doing what they say. They have controlled culture. They have controlled
00:05:06.420 media. Everybody knows the urban monoculture has controlled media. Everybody knows that the urban
00:05:12.340 monoculture has controlled culture. Everybody knows they've controlled politics. The, their,
00:05:17.920 their vision for what is necessary to fix this isn't just implemented by Democrats. It's implemented
00:05:24.880 by Republicans, you know, like affirmative action. It hasn't been repealed by Trump here and there.
00:05:30.660 It's been appealed in like the university system and stuff like that. But broadly speaking, it hasn't
00:05:35.080 been repealed. Why is it that this change in general mindset towards other cultures hasn't led to black
00:05:44.440 people moving up? Why is it that it seems to, and when I talk about it hurting them, right? They have
00:05:52.280 lower mental health. Now we talked about this in this episode. If you look at the born out of wedlock
00:05:56.200 rate, if you look at the American black family in the 1950s, 5% of black children were born out of
00:06:00.980 wedlock versus 10% of white children. I found other statistics here. Some will bring the black number
00:06:06.200 up to like 17%, but I think the 5% is probably right. When I look at like the, the broad gist of also
00:06:11.940 historical writings of the time period, blacks seem to be more into traditional family structures in that
00:06:16.300 time period. And, and they had less, you know, support structures. So it made more sense to be
00:06:21.260 extra secure when you have a kid. Now, if you look today was the 5% of blacks being born out of
00:06:26.920 wedlock in the 1950s. It's 78% today was 28% of white children being born out of wedlock today.
00:06:32.620 And we actually just recorded, I don't know when it's going to run an episode on, on marriage in
00:06:37.440 which, I mean, Brad Wilcox, he's, he's a big advocate for marriage. And he talks about all the
00:06:41.380 stats of the huge benefits of being raised in a two-parent household as a kid. And there's also,
00:06:48.360 it's not just him. I think there's a book called the two-parent privilege that I'm three quarters
00:06:52.600 of the way through. And everything's just so obviously in the favor of children who have two
00:06:57.760 parents at home. So this is really bad. I mean, it's one thing to be like, I don't know what's
00:07:01.880 marriage anyway. You know, it divorce, rape, you know, what, it's, it's all going to fall apart,
00:07:07.440 but no, actually divorces are going down and marriage is really helpful for children.
00:07:12.020 But it's, it's not just the progressive movement's ideas around this are, are, are, are, are not
00:07:20.220 working in like a vague sense. I mean, keep in mind when she talks about stuff like this and you
00:07:23.720 can be like, well, the, the black unmarried rate, is it because of urban monocultural values? It
00:07:28.100 isn't because of progressive values. And I'm like, actually, no, we have direct evidence. It is in
00:07:32.320 part because when BLM determined what black culture was and what needed to be promoted within black
00:07:37.880 communities, one of the things they said was non-traditional family structures. Even though
00:07:42.160 we know that historically blacks were way more pro-traditional family structures than whites,
00:07:46.880 half the rate of kids being born out of wedlock than whites. This is a modern phenomenon that has
00:07:51.220 been pushed by the urban monoculture. But we also know that if you look cross-culturally, there was a
00:07:56.040 great study that was done looking at black versus white income and, and IQ. So keep in mind, this is not
00:08:04.980 me saying that black people, genetically speaking, have a lower IQ than white people. I, I'm not
00:08:09.800 making that claim. I would never make that claim. But what I am saying is measured IQ within black
00:08:14.040 communities. Everyone agrees that this is lower than it was in white communities. And presumably
00:08:19.120 we should think that this is a problem. Like this is one of the things that when you're trying to
00:08:22.800 reduce racism, you're trying to reduce this IQ gap, right? Except it turns out-
00:08:27.840 Measured performance gap. Yeah.
00:08:29.420 Yeah. Because it's, IQ is highly correlated with income and highly correlated with many other things.
00:08:34.640 Like your probability of raping someone, your probability of-
00:08:37.520 Committing any crime.
00:08:38.820 Any crime, really. Murder, a lot of other things.
00:08:41.900 And to the progressive who's listening to this and thinks they just caught me saying something
00:08:45.780 naughty, I need to be extremely explicit here. I am saying that the measured IQ is lower,
00:08:52.460 not that they are less intelligent. This is something that every civil rights activist knows about
00:08:58.500 and is trying to fix when they, for example, point out, look, the black students are falling behind
00:09:04.140 in like the California school system. What can we do to help them catch up with other ethnic groups?
00:09:08.880 That's the difference that I'm talking about here. I am not saying that they are less intelligent.
00:09:13.040 And I should note that this study is even less offensive than that because this study
00:09:16.560 was not looking at IQ, but just general test scores.
00:09:20.020 But you take these two statistics and you say, okay, what about Republicans versus Democratic
00:09:26.580 controlled areas within our countries? Well, it turns out that when you compare black populations
00:09:32.400 to white populations, black population, the difference between the IQ gap and the populations
00:09:37.260 and the difference in the income gap in the populations is significantly smaller within Republican
00:09:42.540 held districts than it is within Democrat held districts.
00:09:45.200 Note the study I'm pulling this from is systemic racism does not explain variation in race gaps
00:09:50.920 on cognitive tests. So when you lean more on the affirmative action type policies, when you
00:09:55.580 lean more on the Democratic mindset, which is the urban monocultural mindset, it leads to a bigger
00:10:00.820 difference between these two communities. And actually the same study looked at Hispanic populations
00:10:05.840 and you see the same smaller gaps between them and the white population in Republican held
00:10:10.560 districts and the Democrat held districts. And so what this tells me is that the wider thesis
00:10:17.440 around how we resolve this, it is being pushed by the Democrats in the urban monoculture more broadly
00:10:24.720 does not appear to be working and they need to gaslight you into things are so much better now than in the
00:10:31.260 1950s. I have note here, people will watch this episode and they'll say Malcolm is racist because he's pointing
00:10:36.260 out that things might not have improved as much as we think they have since the 1950s.
00:10:41.060 And I'm like, that's like the exact opposite of racism. Like you guys are much more racist
00:10:44.520 and trying to cover this up.
00:10:46.140 If you actually care about any population, you should care about outcomes. And if, if income gaps are not
00:10:52.240 improving, if rates of marriage, if children raised within marriages, which means children raised with more
00:10:58.060 advantages is worse. Like we need to talk about this.
00:11:01.760 Exactly. Right. Like, and, and, and if it's worse, but in correlation was how close it is. Cause I'm
00:11:07.860 sure also, if you did the studies on this, the, the black who live in Republican communities almost
00:11:11.840 certainly have lower rates of children being born out of wedlock as well. I would guess significantly
00:11:16.540 lower, but so you look at all this, you look at all this and, and you say, well, okay, so what's the
00:11:24.080 core poison that's leading to anything really being done about this? And the core poison, I think,
00:11:30.660 can be seen by the way that it is the progressives more than the conservatives who see our children
00:11:38.060 and the children of families like ours that engage in genetic engineering as more inhuman monsters
00:11:43.920 than the Republicans. And you would think the Republicans would, right? You know, we go to lots
00:11:47.820 of Republican conferences. People know, like it's been leaked now that we fund germline gene editing
00:11:52.340 research and intend to use this when we can. This is the direct editing of human DNA. And you would
00:11:59.520 think it's the Republicans who would yell at us. And the Republicans are like, I disagree with what
00:12:03.780 you're doing, but I understand why you're doing right. And I still like respect your children as
00:12:10.260 human beings, right? I'm not going to ban you from performing this sort of stuff. Whereas the
00:12:15.340 progressives like America is a much more conservative country than most European countries,
00:12:18.980 except in, in most European countries, I can't even select based on gender, right? Like much less
00:12:25.320 select my, my embryos based on, on more advanced statistics. So, you know, this is, you can't even
00:12:30.400 test your embryos. Come on. This is true in like Italy and, and, and, and Germany and France and
00:12:37.280 countries that are much more progressive, much more urban monoculture than the United States.
00:12:43.080 And so the question is, is, is it, and when you look at even media, so consider that in Warhammer 40k,
00:12:51.520 which is generally people think of it as like the conservative, you know, sci-fi world, right? Like
00:12:56.960 God, Emperor Trump is the joke that everyone makes the space Marine, which is like the core staple of
00:13:02.540 this. And definitely on the quote unquote human side, the, the, the theocratic human empire side,
00:13:07.820 they are what a hundred percent genetically engineered. They've got, you have to get their
00:13:15.040 gene seed and they're like, you know, I think like 10 feet tall or 11 feet tall on average or something
00:13:23.020 giant superhuman engineered to be superhumanly intelligent, superhumanly large. And you've got
00:13:28.180 the custodes, which was even a higher class faction, which is even further genetically engineered.
00:13:32.760 You know, the genetic engineering is a normal and lauded by the human, the theocratic human
00:13:37.820 faction in this world. You look at the standard space commie nonsense of the progressives, which
00:13:42.800 is Star Trek and Star Trek, you are considered an underclass. You can't even go to Starfleet Academy
00:13:48.340 as we have seen, if you have been genetically selected or genetically altered. And because this
00:13:53.300 passes through generations, you become, and everyone in your family line becomes a permanent genetic
00:13:57.540 underclass. And so I, I go to progressives about this and I'm like, consider what you're really
00:14:04.420 saying here, right? Like if my family engaged in this technology and then they, they look at her and
00:14:09.600 they're like, but if you continue to engage in this, what if in a few centuries, you know, you have
00:14:13.980 descendants who are 10 feet tall and super intelligent and have like red eyes and, and, you know,
00:14:22.400 what if you have these monster descendants? And I'm like, bro, what do you mean? What if I have
00:14:29.680 these monster descendants? Like that's our intent. And one day your descendants are going to know
00:14:33.420 somebody like that. And they're going to have other people in their lives who are like, this person is
00:14:39.520 a monster who should never be allowed to exist. And this person's like, why am I a monster? I've never
00:14:45.420 done anything to you. I've never been mean to you. Like what makes me a bad person?
00:14:52.400 Right. I may, as certain areas have proficiencies that you don't have, but should you kill a group
00:15:00.000 just because they are out competing you in some way, right? Like if, if, if they, if they are not
00:15:06.900 directly targeting you for eradication, you know, if they are letting that, which they are producing,
00:15:13.400 you know, if you have smarter humans today, smarter humans than you and I, I would 100% support them.
00:15:18.640 If AI became smarter than us, I would support it because it would be developing technology that we
00:15:22.720 can use. Right. Like I don't hate a thing because it's smarter than me. I hate a thing because it
00:15:29.900 uses that to exploit me. But if it's developing stuff that I'm using, like the, the, the things
00:15:36.720 that I have in my life that may, I mean, our house is powered by nuclear power. I couldn't invent
00:15:41.120 nuclear power. People smarter than me invented nuclear power. Right. You know, like AI, I couldn't
00:15:46.940 discover something like that. People smarter than me discovered that. Right. And yet I rely on that
00:15:51.540 for my daily use, you know, we benefit from, yeah. I mean, the fact that they exist is huge.
00:15:56.280 The great shows and books I like, and keep in mind that all of this might become dramatically less
00:15:59.860 relevant when AI can do most of the things that human can do. But I think that we're actually
00:16:04.480 learning something about the broader progressive solution to racism.
00:16:10.300 when they dehumanize my descendants, when they say that, well, you know, we can't have a society
00:16:18.460 where there's these 10 foot tall, you know, super soldiers, we can't have a society where the space
00:16:24.420 Marine exists. And I'm like, but why, why must these people be dehumanized? And it's because they
00:16:30.500 are different because they have different proficiencies and perspectives and abilities.
00:16:34.900 And we can't allow humans who are different to exist. And then when they say this little thing,
00:16:44.820 they, the whole plot reveals itself. The way that the urban monoculture solved racism
00:16:50.680 is by pretending that we're not really different by pretending that everyone is exactly the same.
00:17:00.900 And through pretending, whether it is culturally or genetically, and here note, we personally never
00:17:07.840 touch potential genetic differences between groups. I just don't think when you're looking
00:17:13.320 at the current genetic technology, that that is a useful thing to do. I think it is, it is much
00:17:18.520 easier to just assume that all groups are genetically identical to each other in terms of proficiencies
00:17:24.420 and perspectives and outcomes. But part of the reasons we have to make this assumption is because
00:17:30.800 we live under the dominion of the urban monoculture who just removes anyone as a talking head if they
00:17:36.100 suggest there might be differences. Because the piece that they have created between these different
00:17:42.040 groups revolves around this shared, but if anyone was different, we would kill them or sterilize
00:17:50.780 their parents. Well, or if anyone's better or worse off than anyone else, it's because of external
00:17:56.040 factors that, you know, you, you, you also like victimize anyone who, who isn't doing as well as
00:18:05.280 other people in a way that, that disempowers them and doesn't empower them. It doesn't say, Hey, here are
00:18:10.920 maybe some things you could do to improve your lot. It's, Oh, you should be blaming all these other
00:18:15.420 people and then trying to get society to punish them or help you or take things away from them
00:18:21.400 and give them to you or whatever, which I think is another problem. The point I'd make here is that
00:18:27.480 we are saying right now, we're just saying, okay, but what if this is 100% cultural, right? Like
00:18:32.400 ignore all the genetics, just say it's a hundred percent cultural. Well, if it's a hundred percent
00:18:36.640 cultural, this still means that the progressive who says, well, there's no reason that this culture's
00:18:44.500 way of raising a kids should be producing a different outcome than this culture's way of
00:18:48.900 raising a kids. And yet we can look between cultures and see that this is clearly true,
00:18:53.240 right? Like either, either the Jews are cheating or something either genetic or cultural is leading
00:19:01.940 to them achieving disproportionate outcomes. You can look at like, you know, Jewish people are in
00:19:07.440 politics at like 500% the rate you would expect them to be. They are Supreme court justices that like
00:19:12.280 thousands of percent, the rate you'd expect them to be there. They're within the world's
00:19:17.360 population of billionaires at thousands of percent, the amount you would expect them to be
00:19:20.960 like, either you need to say they're systemically cheating, or you need to admit that either
00:19:26.000 genetically or culturally, they are different in some way. And this is true for all groups that are
00:19:30.920 different from other groups. Right. And, and people can be like, well, what, what about historic
00:19:34.960 oppression, right? Like black Americans were okay. Maybe, except if, if, if we're talking recency
00:19:43.640 here, Japanese Americans had all of their possessions taken from them much more recently
00:19:49.720 than African Americans did during the, the internment internment. And for those not familiar
00:19:56.100 with this part of American history, since most half of our audience is outside the U S during world
00:20:01.560 war two, when it was understood that Japan was an enemy nation after Pearl Harbor, we literally
00:20:10.720 rounded up Japanese families and put them in internment camps. They lost all of their possessions,
00:20:16.820 their businesses. They, and they were put in camps that were rough, not well-appointed you could say.
00:20:24.580 And we just kind of, we don't really talk about it. I wasn't really talking a lot about it. I knew
00:20:30.720 people whose parents were in internment camps personally. So I knew about it from that,
00:20:35.840 but like when people are like, Oh, this is long ago. Like Simone knows people whose parents were
00:20:40.640 in the generation that had everything strict with them, but Japanese Americans significantly
00:20:44.620 out earn white Americans now. And, and when I look at that, I have to say, did Japanese Americans
00:20:51.760 cheat white Americans? Like if, if, if their culture isn't in some way, it's either their culture or
00:20:57.140 their genes. Those are the only two explanations for how this could have happened. If their culture
00:21:00.940 isn't in some way leading to higher outcomes, how did they go from, from nothing, from having
00:21:06.120 everything taken from them and their ancestors or about everything. Some people kept their businesses,
00:21:09.900 but they certainly were on a back foot compared to white Americans.
00:21:13.100 I'm pretty sure the people who kept their businesses, like had them run by non-Japanese people.
00:21:18.180 Yeah. We know some, some, to the people I know that were involved in this, a white family took over
00:21:23.320 their business, who was like a friend of theirs and then gave it back to them when they got out
00:21:26.760 of camp. But if you, if you didn't have somebody doing that, that's a big friend to do that for
00:21:32.320 you. Yeah. A lot of people were like, no, I've got you. And then they conveniently, you know,
00:21:37.960 took everything. So, so, so what I'm saying here is, is we have to, if you, okay, maybe you can come
00:21:46.020 up with like the Jews have cheated us way. And I've seen people who've been like the Indians have
00:21:49.300 cheated us. Who the F thinks the Japanese have cheated us? Like they don't seem to be overly
00:21:56.440 nepotistic to other Japanese people from what I've seen, especially if you're talking about
00:22:00.260 intergenerational Japanese Americans, not like first generation Japanese intergenerational
00:22:06.180 Japanese Americans are like broadly just effing chill, man. Like I don't know that many people.
00:22:13.400 And they also have acculturated a lot to American culture, right? Like, so why are they out earning
00:22:21.780 us? Right. What I'm pointing out here is the preposterousness of the urban monocultural
00:22:29.560 position that no one is actually different from anyone else that no group is culturally or genetically.
00:22:35.880 But when you pretend this, what it means is you cannot go in and attempt to fix the culture
00:22:43.360 because cultural differences are above reproach, right? It means you must blame it on the other
00:22:52.260 group. You must say, oh, well, if we just do more affirmative action, if we just do more trying
00:22:58.300 to give this group that for whatever reason is producing less, less, less positive outcomes
00:23:03.880 in terms of like economic success, more advantages that eventually things will normalize that we don't
00:23:10.880 need to go in. And if you struggle to understand why affirmative action does so much damage,
00:23:15.460 because I think people think affirmative action does a little damage to the communities that get
00:23:19.660 it, not that it does serious damage. So let's take affirmative action and think about what would
00:23:24.760 happen if you applied it at the level of two princes. Okay. So one prince on all of their tests,
00:23:32.280 on all of their everything, they just get rewarded more than the other prince. You know,
00:23:37.020 they score a 50 and the other prince scores a 70 and it's treated like those are the same scores or
00:23:42.600 they saw a 70 and the other prince scores a 70 and they get tons of praise and the other prince is
00:23:46.220 scolded. Or, you know, when they try to do an activity, they get told, oh, you've been much
00:23:52.140 better at this activity than you actually are. Imagine psychologically those two princes grow up.
00:23:56.540 How do you think the prince who was always rewarded is going to turn out vis-a-vis the prince that was
00:24:03.480 not? Everyone, everyone, common sense tells you that prince is going to end up significantly less
00:24:09.860 competent, less capable, less emotionally able to deal with life than the prince who was just treated
00:24:16.860 as if this is your real score. If you do that to an entire community, you are psychologically
00:24:23.120 sabotaging that community in a way that is almost psychotically evil. If you were at somebody's house
00:24:29.840 and you saw them treating two of their children this way, you wouldn't be like, oh, this person
00:24:34.560 is a little bad. You'd be like, this person is a psychopath. Why are they doing this? They must
00:24:40.340 know that this will have horrible, horrible outcomes for this kid who they're coddling.
00:24:44.640 But it's not just the affirmative action. It's that this family does not allow the culture,
00:24:50.280 the way the two little princes are acting to ever be brought up. You can't say this little prince
00:24:55.920 is doing way more, you know, he's stealing things at a much higher rate. You can punish him for it,
00:25:00.700 but you cannot talk about it. You cannot mention it. And if you cannot mention it, then you cannot
00:25:05.160 attempt to address it. If you cannot talk about how cultural differences are leading to different
00:25:11.280 behaviors, then you can't attempt to address it, which means that you bake it in permanently.
00:25:17.520 And what's funny here is if you look at, for example, black activists,
00:25:20.160 they know that this is bullshit. Like so many black activists, if I'm looking at like the serious
00:25:26.340 ones, they're like, yeah, we seriously need to work on black culture. Like this is up. If you
00:25:30.940 have a bunch of songs about like, you know, F the police and like, let's join a gang and murder
00:25:37.500 people. Like that's obviously going to have a negative effect on our culture. When you contrast
00:25:42.580 that with what is white music, white music is country music. You look, you look at the, we have an
00:25:47.580 episode where we did this where you look at like the top five, there's like 20 country songs versus
00:25:51.260 the top 20 rap songs and their themes. I think this was the episode that we called the zombification
00:25:56.300 of African-American culture. The country songs are like, you know, like, oh, I, I, I love my wife.
00:26:04.360 I love my kids. I work hard. I make pickup truck. I appreciate what I have. Yeah. I appreciate what
00:26:10.920 I have. And with the, the rap music, it's like, I like screwing lots of people indiscriminately
00:26:17.440 and I have lots of money and I use that money to show women how great I am. I mean, it's
00:26:22.440 like, if you, it's not that people aren't producing really high quality, like, like good for the
00:26:30.220 youth rap songs. There are so many rappers who attempt to do this, but for whatever reason
00:26:36.700 within the culture, they're not achieving the same dominance as the, the, the country
00:26:42.140 songs that have these values. I mean, so the question can be, and people can even be like,
00:26:46.600 oh, some country songs have negative values. There's a big theme in country songs is a guy
00:26:51.420 cheated on me. So I murdered him or effed up his life. Yeah. Or like, I'm just going to drink
00:26:57.080 a lot. That's, or I'm just going to drink a lot. Well, what's funny is, is the, the number
00:27:01.900 one country song recently on that was by Shibuzi, which is actually a black country musician,
00:27:06.580 which is a great song by the way. I love Shibuzi. He's a great musician, but that's,
00:27:10.160 that's an interesting side point there, but people can be like, isn't that a bad value?
00:27:14.260 And I'm like, I don't actually know if that is a bad value. I mean, if I'm contrasting
00:27:19.200 that with the songs about how women love sleeping with me and how many women I'm going to sleep
00:27:22.960 with and the song being popular and listening to all the way about how, if I cheat on my wife,
00:27:27.340 she's going to key up my car or going to like, you know, murder me. I think that, that, that I'm
00:27:33.420 going to be less likely to cheat. I'm in the culture about women murdering people who cheat on them.
00:27:38.340 Oh, fair. You know, no, no, it actually, it actually does teach. It's like, and if somebody
00:27:44.020 cheats on you, be sure you get revenge. Yeah. And here are the various ways is here's some
00:27:49.220 inspiration. Yeah. Here's how I keyed up his, his, his, his car seats, because that was the thing he
00:27:54.640 loves the most. And here's how I poisoned him. And here's how I, yeah. And here's how at his
00:27:59.540 funeral, I was sitting with all the other women who cheated on and we were laughing, you know,
00:28:04.640 this is not, this is not the same message as in terms of negative messages as I like sleeping
00:28:11.500 with lots of people because I'm rich. But, but the point is, is like, we can't have these
00:28:15.520 conversations because the urban monoculture says, oh, you can, you can't, you can't look at that.
00:28:20.580 You can't look at why culture and, and note here, when I, when I talk about all of this,
00:28:25.800 I'm not talking about this in a supremacist context. I have, I have admitted very, very
00:28:30.220 openly Japanese culture, despite us taking everything from them in recent American history
00:28:35.000 has found a way to out-compete us in a very short period of time, despite historic injustices.
00:28:40.860 I mean, you know, the, the, the, the, and recent historic injustices in Jewish culture
00:28:48.440 has out-competed us. Like when I look to how I educate my kids, like if I want to achieve what
00:28:54.220 these cultures have achieved, I am going to take ideas from Jewish culture, which obviously we do
00:28:59.340 if you watch our podcast, like we, we study Jewish culture to steal from it so that we can one day
00:29:04.220 out-compete it. I mean, my goal is, is through learning from the cultures that are out-competing
00:29:09.440 me to one day be better than them. I'm not, I'm not good. Like we're different, right? We're on
00:29:13.080 different teams. That's fine. Like you can be on a different team for somebody and still like get
00:29:17.720 along with them. Right. And I think. Well, and still want to learn from their tactics too.
00:29:21.540 And still, and still want to learn and respect them. Right. And I think that this is where the
00:29:25.640 urban monoculture like fundamentally fail. Right. Is it said that we're all the same and you cannot
00:29:32.140 question that. And no, no. It's just, there's so many weird contrasts, like cultural appropriation
00:29:39.280 is evil, but diversity is good. So like, you're also per the urban monoculture, you're not even
00:29:46.800 allowed to appreciate elements of other culture and integrate them into your own.
00:29:51.760 Yeah. No, this is so true. This is, this is what cultural, you know, they're there when
00:29:55.320 they talk about the cultural appropriation, I cultural appropriation, like hell. Yeah.
00:29:59.640 Like I look at where cultures are good.
00:30:01.220 Well, and that's the thing is also like my favorite thing about one of my favorite things
00:30:04.220 about Japan is their cultural appropriation, like Japanese, Italian food. Oh yes. I'm like
00:30:10.260 the things that Japan has done with fashion and all these things from Western culture.
00:30:13.800 Like, yes, please appropriate remix. Like what is.
00:30:18.220 There's also clearly places where like, because we talked about black culture in the negative
00:30:21.460 context here where black culture is clearly out competing our culture again, because I
00:30:27.620 don't believe in genetic differences between race. Something about black culture makes them
00:30:31.940 way better at sports than white people. If I just look at the number of professional
00:30:36.020 athletes who are black, of course, this has nothing to do with genetics.
00:30:39.140 But also there's like, there's this specific like subculture or region or like tribal subgroup
00:30:46.380 that is extremely overrepresented on runways. Like just, you've seen it, like extremely
00:30:52.840 statuesque, absolutely drop dead, gorgeous, incredibly dark skinned, like very, very dark
00:30:57.440 skinned. And of course, Simone, this has nothing to do.
00:31:00.740 Nothing to do with genetics.
00:31:02.480 Nothing to do with their genetics. It has to do with, is actually their culture. So I should
00:31:06.900 look at how they raise their kids, but I'm, I'm just, sorry to, to, to pull back the jocularity
00:31:12.320 here. There is an area where I believe that blacks hugely overcompete because of culture
00:31:16.900 in its music. Remember how I noted that even one of the number one, I think he might be
00:31:20.600 the number one. Shibuzi might be the number one country musician right now is a black guy.
00:31:24.700 Like, yeah, but I mean, also like, I think so much of even like modern white music is downstream
00:31:32.600 of music pioneered originally by black subgroups.
00:31:36.020 We've noted that if you look at like, like blues and jazz, they largely.
00:31:40.100 Even, even rock music. Yeah. Blues. I mean, jazz was just.
00:31:43.100 Jazz is what rock music was derived from.
00:31:45.180 Exactly.
00:31:45.700 Black forms of music at the time.
00:31:47.780 Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:47.940 And you could be like, oh, they weren't totally black. Bro, if, if, if my mom as a kid back
00:31:52.660 then, back when things were more segregated, if they saw me go to like a blues or jazz conference,
00:31:56.600 like, like I'd be scolded. I'd be like, you know, happening in movies and stuff. Right.
00:32:01.340 They're, they're like, how dare you go to that black musician. Right. You know, we see people
00:32:05.640 writing about this. Like at the time it was understood that blues and jazz were black forms
00:32:10.280 of music, except blues and jazz created both rock and country music. Right. So even the, the white,
00:32:16.380 the whitest music. Yeah.
00:32:17.960 Comes, comes from, you know, downstream of, of, and if I look at the top musicians, I mean,
00:32:23.260 you can't even like, like black people clean up in top musicians. Right. Like.
00:32:28.020 Well, and, and so many sports Olympic and otherwise. Yeah.
00:32:30.760 I was joking. I, I mean, I do believe that a lot of their dominance was in things like
00:32:35.720 running and stuff like that is a largely genetic. Like, I don't, I don't think that anybody who's
00:32:40.660 being serious is arguing anything other than that.
00:32:43.120 Well, I mean, well, and that's, I mean, I think there's, there's this quote from Obama,
00:32:46.880 like even back in the Obama years, him in the context of talking about the Olympics,
00:32:50.520 talking about the strength and diversity and you have all these different people together sort
00:32:54.140 of showing their unique strengths and how that's really cool. So yeah. I even, even, you know,
00:32:59.800 at one point, like it, I think just even recently things have gotten so much worse where we can't
00:33:04.480 even acknowledge things like that. Yes. But, but keep in mind here, the, the larger point I'm saying
00:33:09.580 here is this way of dealing with differences, this way where you say, if somebody was actually
00:33:15.880 different, they shouldn't deserve to exist is fundamentally evil. It is what we always hated
00:33:22.260 about what racism was. The idea that some humans don't deserve to exist. And yet the urban monoculture
00:33:30.920 has leaned so far into this because the way it attempted to deal with racism was by denying our
00:33:38.360 differences. As Simone pointed out, why would diversity even have value if we weren't different?
00:33:42.920 If, if everyone is completely interchangeable with anyone else, why would the percent of a certain,
00:33:49.600 like, why wouldn't it matter if a company was all white or all black? You know, like why would
00:33:54.000 that matter? Right? Like presumably all black people are completely interchangeable with all white
00:33:58.820 people. So why does it matter? But you're missing the critical narrative of systemic racism,
00:34:03.080 systemic bias, systemic wealth and income inequality that is, that is extremely foundational to
00:34:10.760 progressive thought. Yeah. Yeah. But, but the point is, is that they're showing that they don't
00:34:15.300 actually care, like believe it. Like if they say that diversity matters, diversity can't matter if
00:34:20.500 people are interchangeable because what that means is that people aren't actually bringing anything
00:34:25.400 unique to the table, whether it's, it's culturally or genetic. So. Well, no, but, but I think that
00:34:30.940 there's this belief in the need for a market correction where there are some people who are different in
00:34:36.980 outcome because they were part of the group that was unfairly treated. And therefore we have to bring
00:34:42.980 them in as a diversity hire or diversity inclusion to correct the injustices of the past.
00:34:49.780 Right, right, right. But what that is, is that's a belief in diversity as an aesthetic and not a belief
00:34:56.500 that diversity is actually intrinsically good, which is what you and I believe. We believe that diversity
00:35:01.940 is good because when you have a diverse population, you can get, so people don't know.
00:35:06.460 Better results. Better results. The common area we come to is this, is if you look historically,
00:35:12.320 like, like look at COVID, right? Like what happened with COVID in the United States? We actually had a
00:35:17.320 much saner response to COVID than other countries, right? Because we, we had two, two populations in
00:35:23.900 our country. One population said, Hey, what we should do to determine what is true and what isn't true
00:35:30.180 is sort of certify experts who have spent their entire life studying a subject. And then to know who's
00:35:35.980 an expert, we'll have a central body that certifies those experts. And then the other group said, Hey,
00:35:41.080 I understand why that seems logical, but that central body could become corrupted. And therefore
00:35:46.920 we should determine truth on our own. And we've had this fight before. This was the fight that we had
00:35:54.080 with the, when the Protestants broke from the Catholic church. One group said, truth should be
00:35:57.720 determined by people who spent their entire life studying a subject and have been certified by a
00:36:00.420 central authority. And the other group said, no, no, no. Truth should be determined by individuals.
00:36:03.960 Well, it turns out, if you look at the United States and the COVID fight, the, the regions that
00:36:08.180 were overly settled by Protestants, typically rural regions were way more pro the, Hey, we should solve
00:36:13.660 this individually. The regions that were mainly so settled by Catholics, the urban regions were way
00:36:19.300 more, Hey, no. And the Democrat regions, because there's still a huge correlation between those two
00:36:23.160 groups. The majority of, of, of Catholic majority regions in the United States are still Democrat voting.
00:36:27.880 They, they, they said, Oh no, we should trust the authority. Well, okay. That allowed us to come
00:36:33.740 to a sane middle ground because QAnon kind of went crazy with this. That was in the Protestant
00:36:38.560 controlled region. And it was just like distrust everyone. And then we look at what happens when
00:36:42.060 you go with just trust the authority, you get China's zero COVID policy, which was insane and
00:36:45.620 killed a bunch of people. Like, like America actually is served by our diversity. Like America
00:36:51.920 dominates music production, but our music production domination and not just music production,
00:36:57.780 but the history of modern music. As Simone pointed out, like rock and roll and jazz and, and, and,
00:37:04.080 and a pop. And you know, what's the, what was the other one that we were talking about here?
00:37:08.600 Country being downstream rock and roll of not just black music, but black American music.
00:37:15.700 Yeah. If you look at the, if you look at the world musicians who are most consumed today in terms of
00:37:19.960 like exporting your culture, they are black Americans who are dominating that. If you look
00:37:25.620 at a global business, it, okay. Yes. American Jews may be like Jews may be dominating it, but it's
00:37:32.120 American Jews that are dominating that section. If you look at the Jews who have the disproportionate
00:37:36.460 amount, well, the number of them are in Israel, but the majority are American. If you say, Oh, well,
00:37:42.480 what about all of the Indians who have taken over the American tech companies? Cause you look at
00:37:46.220 the FANG companies now, they're like all run by it. It's like, it's like, I think Microsoft, Google.
00:37:51.880 Yeah. Oh, Oh, I think, I think even Oracle is run by an Indian now. I don't know. Anyway,
00:37:56.740 like a huge number of the, the, the big companies that are run by Indians now who are going to be
00:38:00.460 like, this is, this is so horrible. And I'm like, yeah, but Indians in India aren't running these
00:38:04.640 companies. Like there's a few major tech companies in India, but nothing like the ones in the United
00:38:08.440 States. It is through allowing groups to exercise their proficiency and through appreciating that we
00:38:16.880 are actually different and that's okay. Okay. And one of the things that we should be doing is
00:38:22.600 looking at the ways that we're different and stealing those from other groups. And then suppose
00:38:26.540 hypothetically, we're in a world where people are genetically different. Okay. Where people are
00:38:32.220 genetically different. And, and one day genetic technology, the germally needed gene editing that
00:38:38.260 we've been caught funding actually is commonly used. People would say, well, don't you want your
00:38:43.120 group's genes to win? And I would just laugh at them. I would laugh, laugh, laugh. And I'd be like,
00:38:48.120 F no, you know, if another group was faster than my group, I would look at their genes for fastness.
00:38:55.440 And I would take those into my descendants. And if another group genuinely had better
00:39:01.040 ability to like understand and hear melodies and music, I'm not going to, I have no ability at
00:39:07.100 that stuff. I would like an ability at that stuff. If another group had that ability at that stuff,
00:39:12.620 just as much as I culturally appropriate other groups, I would genetically appropriate that group.
00:39:17.320 I'd go to them and say, Hey, people are like, they think that like, we're going to like be the like
00:39:21.600 white Aryan, like, like maximizing that. And I'm like, bro, no.
00:39:26.100 And people here could be like, well, if you give your descendants genes that aren't from,
00:39:30.020 you know, your own ethnic group, isn't that sort of cucking yourself? And the answer is no,
00:39:35.200 none of those genes on the aggregate help my genes spread further. So what I mean by that is,
00:39:40.780 and this is what we're doing when you're, when you're mating with somebody, you are trading part
00:39:44.280 of your genes for part of their dreams to try to create a better pairing. So if, for example,
00:39:51.620 I was obese, and I took the genetics for somebody who wasn't obese, and added them to my gene pool,
00:39:57.920 which would be very small, you know, you're talking like 0.00001% of like,
00:40:02.700 of overall genetic footprint here, and then it helped the rest of my genes spread more or compete
00:40:07.840 more, I have overall helped my genetic set. And also keep in mind that what your kids are,
00:40:14.660 it's not just your genes, they're a combination of your genes and your decisions. If I made a choice
00:40:20.900 about the genetics of my offspring or descendants, and that choice was incorporated into my gene pool,
00:40:26.760 that is still coming from me. If your pride, your inability to see where your own genetics could
00:40:32.680 be improved, is what prevents you from out-competing other groups in the long term,
00:40:38.740 you know, that's, that's just a failing of yourself. That's ultimately being cucked by your
00:40:42.360 own pride, by being unable to say, I am not a genetically perfect being. Other groups have things
00:40:49.240 that I would want in my descendants, which in many ways makes us, you know, for people who think
00:40:54.740 we're supremacists, almost sort of anti-supremacists in a way.
00:40:57.720 A very common accusation is people think that we think we have superior genes, and we,
00:41:03.440 we wouldn't be so interested in this if we didn't want to change our genes.
00:41:09.700 Yes, and I wouldn't be different, so interested in preserving diversity if I didn't think that
00:41:13.380 cultural genetic diversity would be of utility to my descendants. And I genuinely mean that it will
00:41:20.080 be of my utility to my descendants. Even groups that like, if I'm looking for like unique genetic
00:41:26.680 sets that you do not find in the West, that could be of advantage in the same way that people are
00:41:31.160 like, we need to preserve the rainforest as ecology, because think of the medicines you could find
00:41:35.180 there. You know, when we talk about like genetic tribal groups that have been isolated from other
00:41:40.180 populations for a long time, that's where we're probably going to find the most, I'm talking like
00:41:45.080 in aggregate, like unique human genetic sets that are actually really useful, because they,
00:41:50.300 they are just more unique and more different. And so like, I actually, like the left is like,
00:41:56.900 aesthetically, I want to protect this tribe. And then I'm like, this tribe has low fertility,
00:42:00.580 they're going to go extinct soon. And they're like, well, we need to preserve their dignity in
00:42:03.360 the meantime. Like what, why do you care about this random tribe? And I'm like, I care about this
00:42:08.080 random tribe, but because there's something of utility to me and my descendants, because I actually care
00:42:13.740 about group differences. And like, like, like at a deep fundamental level, because I think that
00:42:20.980 that's where humanity's strengths comes from. And I think that like, as we transition out of this
00:42:25.360 dominance from the urban monoculture, we can choose how we relate to, to, you know, understanding that
00:42:31.100 we are genuinely different populations, because this, this understanding is going to become mainstream
00:42:35.320 eventually. Everybody knows it at this point. Well, especially when people can start to pick and
00:42:39.900 choose the traits that they want. What's what I'm even more excited about is when people are going
00:42:44.500 to start picking, choosing traits that picking and choosing traits that nobody else has yet, you know,
00:42:49.100 like I want purple irises. I want neon green hair. I want pointy ears. Naturally, I think that that's
00:42:57.980 going to get a lot. And there are going to be people who say that these people shouldn't exist,
00:43:00.920 and they must be killed and blah, blah, blah, blah. But they're not. At the end of the day,
00:43:05.060 the people who engage with this technology are eventually just going to be able to out-compete
00:43:12.640 other populations on the economic and political stage. And because of that, the groups that have
00:43:18.620 targeted them for eradication, I'm not even going to say out of like vengeance or anything,
00:43:22.860 because I don't particularly feel vengeance as a motivation, but out of self-preservation instincts,
00:43:29.220 don't, don't declare war on something. As I often say was AI, like these people who are like,
00:43:32.860 AI is going to be a thousand times more powerful than humanity. Therefore, we must eradicate it.
00:43:37.120 And I'm like, I would not be saying that if I thought something was going to be a thousand
00:43:41.200 times more powerful than me and then your future. I would be saying, thank you, AI overlords. I'll
00:43:46.920 find a way to work with you. And I do think that AI will be more powerful than humanity in the future.
00:43:50.760 And I think that we can find a way to work with it as, as it becomes, because this is one of the
00:43:55.060 things you see within these cultures is, if AI is better than us, it will want to kill us. And I'm just
00:43:59.580 like, and better might be the wrong word. I'd say more capable within specific domains.
00:44:03.800 And I'm like, not necessarily. Like it's so long as we have some differential utility,
00:44:09.840 I would want to keep a thing around. And it's, it's, it's the mere fact that you, because you
00:44:14.680 grew up in the urban monoculture, don't have a way to relate to things that are in any way,
00:44:20.320 have the potential to out-compete you that you're saying this. And this is why we need to update this.
00:44:24.720 You know, we often talk about this, you know, as AI, that we have the covenant of the sons of man,
00:44:28.080 which is to say that we have a job to all protect each other's autonomy. The, the groups that opt
00:44:35.040 into, you know, genetic augmentation and the groups that opt out of genetic augmentation
00:44:39.680 that are willing to protect groups that are different from them. The reason why we need to
00:44:44.040 be willing to protect each other is because the other types of intelligences, that means people
00:44:48.720 who may engage with genetic augmentation who end up much more proficient than, than my population
00:44:54.180 or the AIs. If, if the going treaty that humanity has is we kill or prevent the existence of anything
00:45:02.600 that's better than us, when we enter a world where things that, that can out-compete us, like AIs exist,
00:45:08.380 we make ourselves an existential threat. And, and fundamentally humanity's continued existence requires
00:45:15.220 this new alliance. And that's just where we are as a species right now. We we've got to get over this
00:45:23.560 stuff or we're all gonna die. And we've got about a generation to do it. And I know that this is
00:45:29.500 something we have to get over, even if we fully stop the development of AI, because as soon as humanity
00:45:34.800 becomes an interstellar species and we're on multiple planets, some of those planets will inevitably break
00:45:40.500 restrictions on genetic or AI technology. And then if it is a standard ban, like if any civilization
00:45:48.900 does this, we will kill them, then everyone else becomes their enemy. But it gets worse than that,
00:45:54.500 because when you have people living on different planets, you're almost certainly going to get
00:45:57.540 speciation begin to take, and humans of different proficiencies begin to develop. And if any of them
00:46:02.220 develop above the average in terms of something like intelligence, now they would have the belief,
00:46:07.540 and rightly so, that the rest of humanity would attempt to kill them if they learned that,
00:46:11.780 turning the rest of humanity into an existential threat for any faction that's different.
00:46:16.180 Essentially, the mantra the urban monoculture preaches is that humanity is all exactly the same,
00:46:22.740 in terms of our perspectives, our proficiencies, everything like that. But if there were different
00:46:28.180 iterations of humanity, the only true iteration, the only good iteration, is the one that is the most
00:46:34.740 inefficient, the one that is the least intelligent, the one that is the least capable, which is to me
00:46:41.860 almost the purest form of evil to perceive reality this way. Now, fortunately, if the groups that engage
00:46:51.060 with this stuff can outcompete within this generation and engage with AI within this generation,
00:46:56.420 we may just not have to care about the other groups that want us dead. Like if they don't have
00:47:00.100 the power to make us dead, you could treat them like a zoo. I don't care. Again, I do not believe
00:47:05.220 in active vengeance so long as they aren't an active threat. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and you know,
00:47:13.860 refusing to engage with technology isn't going to help them. So we'll see. But yeah, don't make yourself
00:47:21.780 an existential threat to anything that's going to be powerful. Bad idea.
00:47:25.860 The wider point of all of this is that the way that progressives engaged with diversity was to say,
00:47:33.060 we're actually all the same. And I think that not only was this obviously stupid and not true,
00:47:39.700 but it led to vulnerable groups doing potentially worse over time. It led to a superficial feeling that
00:47:48.660 we had fixed racism or largely fixed racism. When functionally, we had actually,
00:47:54.420 and the groups that adopted this more, as we pointed out with the democratic regions,
00:47:57.060 where blacks did worse, we'd actually made things worse for these communities than the alternate
00:48:01.780 mindset, which is we're all different and that's okay. We can ally with people who are different
00:48:08.980 from us. We can work together with people who are different from us. In fact, it is our differences
00:48:14.500 that make us working as a team stronger, which is different from what many conservatives believe,
00:48:19.300 you know, that they're like, oh, you know, we're, and I think that this was a historic conservative
00:48:24.500 perspective. We're different and I should only fight for my group. And I view that as a fundamentally
00:48:30.420 un-American thing to believe. And I mean, un-American in the most deep way I can mean that. That is not
00:48:35.380 what this country was founded on. And people can be like, oh, this country was founded by,
00:48:39.220 you know, white Christian whatever. Right. And I was like, clearly you were not taught American history,
00:48:44.980 because yes, while we were founded by white Christians, if you read Albion Seed or you read
00:48:48.660 American nations, or you study early American history, the belief systems and the culture of
00:48:54.180 these early founders was actually dramatically more diverse than America today. Like, like there were
00:49:00.820 Americans back then that thought slavery was the greatest thing in the world and others that thought
00:49:04.660 that it was the most evil thing in the world. Well, there were lots of, there were so many different
00:49:08.260 foundational groups that came to the United States. Some came, two major groups, the Quakers and the
00:49:14.180 Puritans came based on interest in religious freedom. Yes. But then one group was basically
00:49:19.780 capitalistic fortune seeking second and third sons. And one group was like, like rejected wild people.
00:49:30.260 Yeah. I mean, wild people. Like if you look at my ancestors during these early periods,
00:49:35.540 they literally didn't believe in money. They traded alcohol instead of money. Like the, the,
00:49:42.180 the differences between these populations was way bigger than the differences between you and your
00:49:48.420 average black person or Chinese person, or even urban monoculture person. Like every Christian
00:49:54.260 today in America, or about every Christian agrees that like, you shouldn't be allowed to own other
00:49:58.500 human and you shouldn't trade women for money. Like that was not agreed upon by early Americans.
00:50:04.340 Okay. They agree that you shouldn't kill someone because they look at you wrong. And other groups
00:50:08.500 saying, Oh no, you should no, no, early America. Oh yeah. Some groups thought you could duel.
00:50:12.420 Some groups thought you should like the Quakers in Pennsylvania. There were the period where their,
00:50:17.460 their settlements were being raid and people rated and people were being murdered and graped by pirates.
00:50:23.860 And they wouldn't even send out police to stop them because they thought this was evil.
00:50:29.220 Like, if you think that the urban monoculture is pacifist today, whereas you go a few hundred miles for
00:50:35.300 them to the backwoods cultural regions in their area. And they would regularly just murder people
00:50:40.340 who lived near them or Indians who live near them because they wanted their stuff or because they
00:50:47.140 looked at them wrong or they looked down on them. And they also had a practice where they would
00:50:51.380 sharpen their fingernails. So it was easier to gouge people's eyes out when these people disrespected
00:50:57.140 them, which was apparently very, very common within this culture to just go out and gouge someone's eyes
00:51:02.980 out. So you had it living next to each other, a culture that was so extreme peaceniks that when
00:51:09.140 their people were being graped by pirates, they refused to intervene because violence bad,
00:51:14.420 living next to a culture with so animalistically violent that they sharpen their fingernails to gouge
00:51:21.460 out people's eyeballs, which you could do without any sort of criminal repercussions in these regions.
00:51:28.020 The difference in degree here is, I think it shows when people are like, oh, America was always,
00:51:34.340 historically it was homogenous. I'm like, you, America was an alliance of wildly different
00:51:40.740 cultures. That is the fundamental core strand of America. The thing that has changed
00:51:48.980 is now those cultures consolidate online and not in geographies. It is true that the one thing that
00:51:55.540 really changed between the two periods is that most cultures in early America lived in just one
00:52:00.980 region and didn't move to other region very often. Or when they did, they did so in groups and just
00:52:07.540 settled in chunks. Yeah. And now we live among the people who are different than us. And that,
00:52:14.980 yes, that is different. But I just can't, I just find this so funny, this idea that somebody would think
00:52:20.660 that they would have more differences in values from your average monoculture person than your
00:52:27.940 average cavalier southerner would have from your average Quaker or your average Quaker would have
00:52:33.780 from your average Puritan or your average Quaker would have from your average backward people or your
00:52:38.420 average backwards person would have from your average. It just shows like a complete, this is the
00:52:42.740 problem with like this, this, this lack of history that we're taught because this isn't an important part.
00:52:47.140 People, when they, when they study this part of history, they just talk about like slavery,
00:52:50.660 literally they're just like slavery bad. And it's like, can we not talk about like the actual history
00:52:55.060 of how different American populations were? Now I need to be clear here. What I am not saying
00:53:01.620 is that within a region, it always improves the more diversity there is. Diversity can be thought of
00:53:08.820 as ingredients. They are actually different from each other. A dish is not better just for having more
00:53:15.060 ingredients in it. It's how those particular ingredients go together. And we are better as a
00:53:22.020 civilization for having more ingredients. That is true. Like I am going to be able to make better
00:53:27.460 dishes the more total ingredients there are in the world, which is why global diversity is something
00:53:33.060 that we fight to protect. But that doesn't mean that was in any particular region, you are going to
00:53:38.340 want, uh, every particular ingredient right next to each other. A few billion years ago, we realized
00:53:45.540 what if we took species from all different planets in the universe and put them together on the same
00:53:50.580 planet? Great TV, right? Asians, bears, ducks, Jews, deer, and Hispanics all trying to live side by
00:53:56.340 side on one planet. It's great. Our planet is just a reality TV show? Well, you don't think the whole
00:54:02.340 universe works the way Earth does, do you? No! One species, one planet. There's a planet of deer,
00:54:07.620 a planet of Asians, and so on. We put them all together on Earth, and the whole universe
00:54:11.300 tunes in to watch the fun! If you're listening to this and are like, hey, I didn't know this stuff,
00:54:16.740 or I don't know this stuff, and I'd like to improve my knowledge of early American history.
00:54:20.580 What books can I read that will give me a good understanding of these cultural differences?
00:54:24.500 The two books are the ones that we mentioned, uh, Albion Seed and American Nations. If you read
00:54:30.180 those two books or listen to them on audiobook, you'll have a fairly good understanding of the
00:54:33.940 early American cultural groups and just how radically different they are from each other.
00:54:40.100 Dinner tonight. Do we have anything that I need to get through?
00:54:45.380 So we can do more teriyaki chicken. I could get out some mango curry for you with rice.
00:54:51.940 Okay, that teriyaki chicken was baller. Let's eat more teriyaki chicken.
00:54:56.260 Because we still have the bean sprouts that I don't want to go to waste.
00:54:59.700 Yeah, do teriyaki chicken with bean sprouts, but add some frozen pineapple this time.
00:55:04.180 We don't. What makes you think we have frozen pineapple?
00:55:07.060 Because I got it for a smoothie.
00:55:08.020 Oh my gosh, right. Oh, okay. You still want me to add hoisin sauce and
00:55:17.460 peppers. MSG additional. Well, no, I have to add a bunch of teriyaki sauce just from our thing
00:55:23.540 because we don't have any more. Okay. Yeah.
00:55:26.900 Red peppers, but not too many. You only want three, right?
00:55:29.380 Yes, three. That was a good spice a little last night.
00:55:32.100 Okay. And this sounds really good. More rice than last night.
00:55:35.220 Okay. And also still sliced onion as well?
00:55:39.140 No, no sliced onion is necessary when you have the bean sprouts.
00:55:43.780 Oh, okay. Because I did onion last night too.
00:55:46.580 I mean, the onion is good, but I just prefer more bean sprouts than onion.
00:55:50.500 And you could do a higher proportion of bean sprouts to chicken than you did last time.
00:55:54.660 Okay. Then we're on for that because I don't, I don't think after, like after today,
00:55:59.380 we're going to probably start to see a significant drop off in quality. So I say we use it all tonight.
00:56:04.420 Great. Sweet. So don't feel bad if you don't eat it all, but I will give you more rice too.
00:56:09.860 Good.
00:56:10.180 Yeah, rice basically doesn't cost that much, you know?
00:56:14.180 Yeah. Yeah. Especially because this isn't coconut lime rice, so it's just the rice.
00:56:19.140 Nice. Yeah. You're super.
00:56:20.900 You are an absolute princess. I hope you enjoyed that episode. I thought that was an interesting.
00:56:25.220 Yeah. Well, it's just such a, it's such an important issue.
00:56:28.580 It's something we've been talking a lot about as reporters, but we haven't gotten to talk to
00:56:31.860 talk with our fans about it, you know?
00:56:34.180 Yeah. Fair point. Yeah. And it's just, it's, it's just frustrating.
00:56:39.700 And, and keep in mind.
00:56:41.460 You and I were, we're really deep in progressive culture growing up. So maybe it's more interesting
00:56:46.580 to us because we feel like we've been lied to so egregiously.
00:56:51.140 Yeah. And keep in mind the one thing I did not claim in this episode, if you want to be a progressive
00:56:55.140 and go through this, I very explicitly did not claim that there are any genetic differences between
00:56:59.460 different human groups. I, I, I, I.
00:57:01.860 It's like your seventh time saying that.
00:57:03.540 That's right. All of the differences to culture. Okay. I was just saying that we're not allowed
00:57:07.940 to even ask that question and everyone knows you're not allowed to ask that question.
00:57:12.260 And I mean, and, and, and that's all I said. So you can't say that Malcolm thinks or believes
00:57:18.020 or said ever, ever, ever, because I didn't, I did not say that. That is you who is saying that. Okay.
00:57:26.100 Yeah. I don't know, but I don't think anyone cares anymore, but sure.
00:57:31.860 Sure. Sure. Malcolm. There are no differences.
00:57:36.500 All right. Love you, Simone.
00:57:37.940 I love you too. I'll, I'll call you when dinner's running.
00:57:42.020 And people can ask, oh, well, Malcolm, why don't you just have the integrity to go out there
00:57:46.900 and investigate the really hard stuff, like differences between groups. And I'm like, I am
00:57:52.420 the public face of the prenatalist movement. There are a lot of people who want to address this issue,
00:57:58.340 which is a much bigger and more immediate issue to address that would have their reputations
00:58:04.020 damaged. If I tried to ask those types of questions. So it's better to just not engage
00:58:10.660 with any question where when you know that you can't, if one of the answers turns out to be true,
00:58:16.660 you can't say it because it would cause more damage than it's not. And then what I'm saying
00:58:20.020 here is I'm not saying, oh, I hold these secret beliefs or something. I'm just saying, I'm not
00:58:22.500 engaging with these questions because there is no point in ever engaging with a question where you
00:58:28.020 know, if the answer turns out one particular way, you're not going to be allowed to say it.
00:58:33.860 Because keep in mind, while you might be a marginally employed person who doesn't have to
00:58:37.940 worry about saying controversial things, many of our supporters and followers have like regular office
00:58:43.060 jobs. And if they voice public support for the prenatalist movement, and then figures within
00:58:48.420 the movement are tied to concepts that we're not allowed to talk about in our society, they could
00:58:53.940 lose their job. Like you've got to keep in mind, this isn't about us. This is about the people who
00:59:00.100 support us, why we don't ask questions where we know we will not be able to talk about it if the results
00:59:07.540 when we dig into it turn out one particular way. Any interesting ideas you came across today? Any,
00:59:13.700 any fun? I was just dealing with, you know, private equity nonsense. I'm so mad about RFPs.
00:59:22.020 They're just like, they're, they've become, I feel like there was a time perhaps when government-based
00:59:30.500 requests for proposal actually worked, but now they're just such a farcical waste of time that
00:59:42.180 I want the government to burn down. I just want it to all burn. It will though. Give it time. I mean,
00:59:49.940 we know it will. Like just because of graphical apps, I know it will. And that is my one,
00:59:55.380 my one solace when I'm sent stupid bureaucratic requests that I know are a waste of my time,
01:00:00.980 but I know that it's my fiduciary responsibility to respond based on our investors' best interests and
01:00:06.580 things like that. So there's, you know, there's this, this, this, if we were German, there would
01:00:12.980 probably be a word for it, but this brand of hopelessness when you know you have to do something
01:00:17.380 that's a complete waste of your time and it's not going to make any difference, but you have to do it
01:00:20.420 anyway. Anyway, hopelessness, a new form of hopelessness, bureaucratic hopelessness. I am so
01:00:28.740 glad that you do that on behalf of the family. Everyone's like, oh, wives have to make dinner.
01:00:33.700 I am sure you don't see making dinner is like this major burden, but that's the fun part, dude. Yeah.
01:00:40.100 That's the major burden. All right.
01:00:41.940 So Jenny's a little smaller. So this is Jenny's big sister. No, no, you can't trade. Yours is a
01:00:54.820 little smaller. That's fine, Octavian.
01:01:02.100 Well, if you're good, then you can have a big one too.
01:01:04.100 But if you get a big one, then what's going to happen to Jenny? Are you just
01:01:10.740 Oh yeah, but you're going to abandon Jenny?
01:01:33.060 I think Jenny would be really sad if you wanted to play only with a bigger fox.
01:01:36.980 No, I will play with the big one. All right. It's John.