Based Camp - The True Story O Brother, Where Art Thou Was Based On! (Malcolm's Recent Family History)

00:00:00.000 hello malcolm hello simone and today is a very interesting episode for me because something very

00:00:07.920 weird happened to me last week there is a movie that i have liked since i was a kid because it

00:00:14.400 came out when i was in middle school i want to say oh brother where art thou and when i first saw it

00:00:19.880 i was like it is very weird how many similarities it has to stories my family told me about my

00:00:28.480 great-grandfather but i discounted these similarities for three reasons one it was very

00:00:38.000 clearly based on the odyssey two it was very clearly based on the bible and themes of biblical

00:00:45.120 redemption so i was like okay there's already so much content in this it couldn't possibly also be

00:00:50.020 based on a true story and three the whole thing takes place in mississippi and all the stories i

00:00:56.800 were told about took place in texas so i ignored it well a few days ago i was googling some of the

00:01:04.400 characters from it and they're like oh yeah papio daniel was based on a real texas politician and i

00:01:10.120 was like like a huge wave hitting me i was like oh all of it was true all of it was based on my

00:01:18.320 great-granddad that is insane and and and what's insane is i actually looked to see if there were

00:01:25.100 youtube videos covering this and there weren't and i assume that part of it is due to how nuanced

00:01:31.900 and niche this history is all about a texas gubernatorial election in the in the 1930s i think

00:01:40.240 but it is it is also like surprisingly accurate to the plot of the movie so i am going to combine

00:01:48.680 both what i was able to find in terms of historical evidence of what went down

00:01:52.660 as well as evidence from family oral tradition into essentially what happened here and what is

00:02:00.700 the true iteration of the story in oh brother where art thou if you were to to take it out

00:02:06.560 would you like to know more so the first thing to note is is just so you know that like i'm not

00:02:11.540 making up that this is actually based on this papio daniel was a real texas politician

00:02:17.380 he was a texas governor and in the movie he is the politician that attempts to use the popularity

00:02:26.560 of this musical group to win office in real life what happened was is is my great-grandfather who was a

00:02:38.400 radio station owner and a business magnate at the time tapped papio daniel who was the star of a musical

00:02:46.000 group to try to defeat a candidate who was supporting the clan's interest in a texas election so the fact

00:02:58.260 that this was a clan group versus an anti-clan group is accurate what is mixed up in the storytelling

00:03:04.360 is the who the different characters are papio daniel while the the politician is named papio daniel

00:03:11.000 he would probably better be named carpy collins who is my ancestor and he was somebody who wanted

00:03:17.940 to have a political fight with a specific other somebody and he tapped a musician to win that

00:03:25.560 political fight so now we're going to go back but first of all you got to understand the origins of

00:03:30.440 this political fight why was he so so so angry at this other candidate why did he need this other

00:03:38.540 candidate to lose and why was he looking for somebody to run against him so we're going to go

00:03:43.760 back three generations through this but first simone you saw the movie recently what'd you think

00:03:47.520 you hadn't seen in a long time it's it's a great movie it's holds up incredibly well and it's one of

00:03:54.520 those movies that's stylized but not in a way that makes it stuck in time or dated which i quite like

00:04:00.780 yeah well and you also didn't think our fans would care about this episode at all i really yeah i i i

00:04:07.480 failed to understand why this is interesting or why this matters i think it's good ever growing

00:04:12.860 content well i mean you have a family history that tells a part of history that other people haven't

00:04:17.420 heard it's interesting to you and nobody else cares everyone nobody else cares apparently was

00:04:23.000 interesting enough to other people that they made a movie about it i don't know there's so many

00:04:29.040 interesting historically accurate elements of the movie i think things that they throw in that they make

00:04:34.200 important that they it's a very nerdy it's a surprisingly nerdy movie where people the people

00:04:40.320 who created it from clothing to products to cars to what people were eating how people spoke i think was

00:04:49.160 very obsessively done it was almost it was like it was made by some obscure man in japan whose one

00:04:55.400 obsession was depression era like south middle texas you know like a just a crazy otaku who like

00:05:02.480 nailed it better than how much it's it's localized to texas culture which really shocked me as a kid

00:05:07.880 because people said it was mississippi culture but you know digging into it it's very clearly more

00:05:11.680 modeled on texas culture but anyway which is where it actually you know the historical figures and the

00:05:16.440 historical fight took place so we're going to go three generations earlier than the events of the

00:05:21.520 movie so warren collins was the brother of if you have seen the free state of jones the the second

00:05:30.900 main character to the to newton knight the guy who like wrote the the rules for the free state of jones

00:05:36.460 and 15 of his relatives so either brothers or kids of his his brothers were part of the 50 founding

00:05:42.780 members of the free state of jones so it was basically one family so one of the brothers from

00:05:47.220 this family went to texas and started a different separatist group that was trying to create a different

00:05:53.040 separatist state it was called the texas jayhawkers and this is where the kaiser burnout comes from when

00:05:59.060 they tried to to kill these people and there's many interesting stories that i could go into if

00:06:03.220 this does well about my ancestors so this guy there's this famous story he was he was leading

00:06:07.080 this group of anti-confederates and they had captured a lot of their their people and they

00:06:12.700 were going to execute them and so he pretending to be somebody else comes into the camp and he gets

00:06:18.060 them all drunk and he drinks a lot because you know i guess every one of my family drinks a lot

00:06:21.780 um and he did a jig that it was apparently so captivating that it distracted the confederate

00:06:27.820 guards while they let everyone loose but if you watch the free state of jones because i think a lot

00:06:33.320 of people they see something like the civil war and they don't understand why there could be so much

00:06:37.460 intergenerational hatred between groups and so much intergenerational hatred between the descendants

00:06:43.040 of these people and people like the clan and if you watch that movie i i think by the end of that

00:06:48.480 movie you'll be like oh i can understand why they would really hate the clan for multiple generations

00:06:52.740 you know these people were horrifyingly killing their friends and stuff like that it was really

00:06:57.660 evil and terrible anyway so after him his son and i'm gonna be putting up wikipedia pages for all

00:07:04.420 of these people because they all have wikipedia pages his son ran he was a texas politician

00:07:08.980 specifically like state senator he really focused on issues like anti well he focused on issues like

00:07:15.760 prohibition women's rights trying to get women to vote and trying to get people a five-day work week 1.00

00:07:21.540 and other workers rights issues so he won state senate but then he tried to run for governor as an

00:07:27.820 anti-clan candidate and he lost and to understand how much this grudge goes i know there were assassination

00:07:34.720 attempts by the clan on my family i mean certainly both of these people but even even to their kids and

00:07:40.020 we can get to that later in the video so anyway then his son was car p collins car p collins owned

00:07:47.320 a chain of radio stations across texas and he did some pretty shady stuff with his radio stations

00:07:53.260 for example the limit for radio stations at the time was 5 000 hertz and he would broadcast them at

00:07:59.220 50 000 hertz by putting them just south of the border on the texas mexico border and they could

00:08:05.260 apparently be heard as far north as like chicago or la which is absolutely insane so he had a reason

00:08:11.480 to want more like political power he made his money on something called crazy water crystals so he had

00:08:17.540 this idea he saw these water wells in this place called mineral wells texas and he had this idea of

00:08:24.320 okay well these wells are supposed to have healing properties they're like widely known for having

00:08:27.960 healing properties and he saw on the sides of the wells that there was like a powder accumulating and he goes

00:08:33.000 oh i can dehydrate the water in these wells and create a powder that is cheaper to ship than the

00:08:40.180 water itself so he he widely shipped this powder and it was known for having a laxative like effect

00:08:46.780 in the ads that they would say they'd say we could clean you out like a ramrod and so then he used the

00:08:51.400 money he made from this to one by the town and they created that like a resort out of this town

00:08:54.860 which actually sort of fell apart after aspen became popular and planes became popular because then you

00:08:59.920 didn't need to drive to the town before like the dallas elite for a period and they in the austin

00:09:04.540 and houston elite to a lesser extent this was like where they would all go and then it became austin

00:09:09.000 but anyway and you can find some old pictures i might find one for this where you can see just how

00:09:13.420 big this town was compared to what it is now in terms of the people that would go and so anyway then

00:09:17.760 he used that to buy up radio stations that he could use to broadcast this product and within those

00:09:23.200 radio stations one of the people who would broadcast was a guy called papio daniel and papio daniel

00:09:28.960 was doing this broadcasting to promote his flower product and he he owned a flower mill and he really

00:09:37.800 was was just doing his band to promote his flower product and you can actually see this in in in the

00:09:44.920 the name of his band the white crust dough boys so on the in the in the show they were called the

00:09:50.980 soggy bottom boys the real name of the band was the white crust dough boys so this guy he became very

00:09:57.860 popular apparently especially among wives who lived at home and stuff like that he was a very early sort

00:10:03.600 of a populist character but he was actually from ohio and he didn't have any political ambitions

00:10:07.360 but my great granddad he the the guy who was the former railroad commissioner was running for

00:10:15.560 governor and he knew this and he knew this guy had really close ties to the clan i'll put some

00:10:19.620 pictures of evidence up for this on on screen but yeah and he didn't want him to win the election

00:10:25.380 but he also knew from his father that the wrong way to approach this and i really believe in this

00:10:31.060 idea of like intergenerational lessons was to try to run yourself what he should do is he should find

00:10:37.160 somebody who seemed to have popular appeal and run that guy for office so he found papio daniel and

00:10:43.680 right and the light crust dough boys and you'll see this actually in the scene through over the

00:10:48.420 art though the character who is named papio daniel you keep hearing him pushing flower or pushing his

00:10:54.100 flower company at various parts and like ads so they're really tying it back to this like he's very

00:10:58.620 clearly based on the real character but papio daniel had no reason to run he had no interest in running

00:11:04.320 so the the other guy said okay well my my grandfather carpy collins he he had to convince him to run in

00:11:13.480 some way right and he goes well i bet this would be great for flower sales and there's actually

00:11:18.120 historical evidence that this did happen so he convinced him to run to increase flower sales and

00:11:24.960 he was running on this incredibly populous ticket very similar to the proto trump and actually reason

00:11:30.420 magazine did a piece on both carpy collins and papio daniel saying this was like the proto trump

00:11:36.600 this texas governor race and so he got him to run and he would drive around in his car to all these

00:11:41.280 things and all of these towns and promote himself and everything like that and he was doing an okay

00:11:46.640 job but you know it was still a pretty tight election so when he would go around i love this he

00:11:51.540 he wasn't actually interested in any of the issues so whenever anyone would ask him a question and he

00:11:56.440 didn't really want to answer it he'd go strike up the band leroy and leroy was his one of the guys in

00:12:02.680 the band and they'd start they'd start playing and everyone would go wild because they were a really

00:12:06.960 popular hillbilly band at the time the other name for the band was the hillbilly boys and so they they

00:12:12.320 the people would go wild and they'd love it and so this is how he he just did his campaign

00:12:16.260 so heading to the end of the campaign it's right before election day and something you need to know

00:12:20.840 about texas laws at the time there was a poll tax at the time like a two dollar tax you would pay to

00:12:26.600 vote what this also meant is that they had records of who had voted and who had not voted so it turned

00:12:32.380 out his entire life papio daniel had never voted and his wife had never voted they never paid this poll

00:12:40.000 tax and the dallas morning news was going to run this big hit piece on him for this the day before the

00:12:46.580 election or two days before the election but like right before like it would have ended his

00:12:50.560 election and my great-granddad carpy collins he'd been running the campaign and everything like

00:12:55.280 that freaked out and so he drives up to wichita which is where papio daniel was living at the

00:13:01.580 moment and he he he bangs on his door he's oh my god we're dead we've got to do something about this

00:13:06.880 and papio daniel goes no i got this covered you don't need to worry about anything son you know i got

00:13:11.780 this covered and it came in mind you know my granddad had been bankrolling this entire campaign

00:13:16.220 so he and then papio daniel he probably goes what you need to do is you need to talk to everyone

00:13:22.520 you know in the press you need to have them at this concert i'm gonna hold that night so he puts

00:13:26.680 on this big concert okay so you haven't you haven't heard any of this have you no this is totally new to

00:13:33.760 me i mean you knew parts of it i'm sure about it checked i knew about the crazy water crystals this

00:13:38.800 just checks out with your family history though um yeah it seems like something they do so put on this

00:13:43.760 big event and then papio daniel he comes out of this event he goes son i actually don't know if

00:13:49.220 this is public that people didn't know that this was all planned and in response to a new story that

00:13:53.220 was going to go live the next day and he goes i'm a man of the people you see his his whole campaign

00:13:59.140 was based on the 10 commandions that's he the one of my campaign promises it's the 10 commandments

00:14:04.600 i'm just going to follow them that's and he ran his campaign on the 10 commandments

00:14:08.520 and he would do crazy stunts like you go out and shoot a bison and then he the bison for everyone

00:14:15.120 who's at the campaign rally but at this particular rally he goes i'm gonna tell you how much i believe

00:14:21.780 in the little man this poll tax it is used so that only rich men can vote so that the elite can control

00:14:29.900 you and i believe that so much that my entire life my wife and i we have never paid this poll tax

00:14:37.200 we have protested this our entire life going into this election and apparently the crowd just went

00:14:43.720 wild for this they loved this assertion because of course it was all his audience all his fans

00:14:49.040 and the press was all there and so instead of being able to run this piece that was papio daniel

00:14:54.860 has never even voted before it's papio daniel spent his entire life protesting the poll tax with his

00:15:02.000 wife and so it went really well and so papio daniel he wins the election he keeps this clan member out

00:15:08.560 of out of the governorship of texas so you got to understand with the clan i mean his dad's generation

00:15:13.720 that was one era of resurgence of the clan but the 1920s that was the second resurgence of the clan and

00:15:18.920 so it made a lot of sense that these guys would be connected it was really important to him that he

00:15:22.920 prevented them from gaining political power because that's been one of my family's goals for a long time

00:15:27.020 is fighting this type of stuff and and he won the election and he was governor i think for two terms

00:15:33.820 and then he actually tried to rerun later but when he tried to rerun later he actually ran on a

00:15:38.980 segregationalist platform like a strict segregationalist platform and my granddad didn't want any part of

00:15:44.060 that so he didn't support him and he just fell flat on his face the moment at the gate because

00:15:48.360 i don't want to say that he had actually been masterminding the whole thing but i think the

00:15:52.080 evidence is pretty clear here that he was the reason that papio daniel was worked and so that

00:15:58.200 is the actual story of the soggy bottom boys or the white crust sourdough boys but there was no then

00:16:07.260 a criminal affiliation with the band that your family's politician of choice used well so both of

00:16:15.380 them were kind of hucksters in their own way i mean the they weren't like they hadn't broken out of jail

00:16:20.300 no they had not broken out of jail no it was that one person tapped them specifically to beat another

00:16:27.720 person specifically due to their clan affiliation and that they were very sort of narcissistic band

00:16:35.940 members who were sort of hucksters and con artists yes but there was nothing more than that

00:16:40.720 okay interesting you find this boring i just i don't think people find other people interesting

00:16:49.560 but i'm not the best at modeling people let's be honest here so i think people find hidden history

00:16:57.360 interesting and an episode we'll do later which is actually really interesting tied to all of this

00:17:03.520 is that these individuals in this story were actually supposed to be in the illuminati

00:17:09.260 so there's this document that was created in the 1980s called the bloodlines of the illuminati

00:17:14.940 you know put a post of this it's even on cia's own website and my dad was supposed to be one of the

00:17:20.260 people who led the illuminati specifically his mom the the grand madame of the collins family

00:17:25.680 and she was supposed to be one of the core 12 leaders of the illuminati and that this family had been

00:17:32.440 tapped for the illuminati and it's it's very interesting to go into the history of how this could

00:17:38.220 have happened like hypothetically if the illuminati actually existed and i just i just love how cinematic

00:17:43.280 my family might have always been the wealthiest family but they were cinematic they lived

00:17:47.240 dramatically from 30 rock right i've checked and there is no oscar for living dramatically

00:17:55.160 i really hope somebody makes a movie about us we've got a lot of movies about our recent family

00:17:59.100 i think they've already made oh you mean this generation yeah no i mean there's a few recent

00:18:04.660 movies about my family yeah i'm talking about our generation you we just need your brother to run

00:18:09.380 for office at the same time that you do so that there's this amazing colorful rivalry i feel like

00:18:14.420 that would be uh we're planning it we're planning there's enough there you know and your brother's

00:18:19.780 hilarious and you know wicked smart oh he's an amazing person anyone who likes the show they'd love him

00:18:25.720 if he he'll be a good character he's yeah he's unstoppable you'd have to be played by chris pratt

00:18:31.040 they work together too like us they have a company together they've been successful together i also think

00:18:36.080 it's also interesting with anything like these movies or these shows you know you can see them

00:18:39.760 and you're like what actually happened you know descendant wise you know long story to these

00:18:44.720 characters to their families and i guess we're sort of a in state that's that was what happened

00:18:50.260 so if chris pratt would play your brother who would play you james franco i feel like james franco

00:18:57.540 is weird enough to be able to do a you who's james franco i don't know that he's i don't know he's kind

00:19:03.220 of creepy but i feel like he has the flexibility and he's pale oh yeah he could easily play me

00:19:09.660 but chris pratt is obviously your brother so that's done oh yeah no so people who think that

00:19:15.320 she's joking here my brother looks no he doesn't look like chris pratt your brother looks more like

00:19:20.120 a i don't know a kendall or david like a combination of michelangelo's david and a kendall

00:19:25.220 you know they're they're kind of like you know that's that's that's how it goes you know but

00:19:30.920 but like the the mannerisms are very similar between chris the mannerisms are very chris pratt

00:19:36.900 he's got this sort of adorable doofiness to him no there's well there's a there are things that he

00:19:41.800 does with his eyes that are very subtle but will they remind me much more of chris pratt in what's

00:19:46.360 the show 30 rocks and wreck parks and right parks and wreck yeah chris pratt and parks and wreck

00:19:50.840 it has a very similar mannerism and vibe to my brother but my brother is actually like a very

00:19:55.760 successful business person that's why i said he'd be a great politician he reminds me a lot of

00:20:00.300 you know he has he has to run he has to run and so so yeah it's done it'll happen and then then

00:20:07.700 there will be the story you just have to be very entertaining about it so that's fine oh i gotta

00:20:13.000 tell sorry quick story about no i won't i won't tell this story but my brother has a lot of his

00:20:17.080 heroic stories about him he's put himself in enormous physical danger to protect other people multiple

00:20:23.260 times and i really you know he's he's the golden boy like he is you know like he could be the next

00:20:29.160 kennedy you know like not by like our family standards i mean they always thought i was

00:20:33.200 smarter than him your your families are everyone is a golden boy in your family but anyway yeah okay

00:20:39.460 i mean that stuff's fun i like thinking about who will play you and your brother i know okay well

00:20:46.400 let's let's let's we'll create enough content so that people have something to go on when we compete

00:20:50.900 against each other and they can get all the drama yeah all right well i love you simone and i

00:20:56.120 appreciate you indulging me in this video and we can see if anyone cares about historic events

00:21:01.100 well i look forward to watching whatever movie is based roughly on your existence so i will be very

00:21:07.100 dead but maybe my descendants will have some pointless podcast episode where they discuss it so

00:21:12.460 looking for oh pointless podcast my green granddaddy malcolm collins he did this silly podcast i should also

00:21:22.120 note though that malcolm's family also has a penchant for doing this like one of his his older family

00:21:28.820 members has like murals and portraits all over their house of like family members so i think even you had

00:21:36.700 in one of your childhood houses a mural in your bedroom showing you and your brother in space suits so

00:21:41.860 there was a lot of we did the walls were painted with a space theme and it was me and my brother

00:21:46.540 in space was like i had like a remote device and we had our dog but the dog was a constellation

00:21:51.640 oh that's cute no i i do have to say the the malcolm collins family is very like smug and full

00:21:59.640 of itself but like the frustrating thing is it's rightfully so they're just that good so it's like

00:22:05.280 someone who like walks by a mirror and can't help but seduce themselves in it but you don't blame them

00:22:09.200 because they're that sexy it's that that is malcolm's family very interesting stuff so yeah i guess

00:22:14.280 we'll we'll see who is correct and you will you know you will oh and i should also probably mention

00:22:22.340 here that the the son of the guy who i'm talking about in the story ended up becoming a u.s congressman

00:22:27.580 and there you go um so he went back into politics he then tried to get his son to go into politics he

00:22:32.620 didn't go into politics but he the family really tried to get him into politics and yeah anyway love

00:22:39.300 you love you too fantastic conversation enjoyed it

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Based Camp - September 14, 2023

The True Story O Brother, Where Art Thou Was Based On! (Malcolm's Recent Family History)

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