Based Camp - The Virus! (How Wokeism Kills Organizations)

00:00:00.000 The virus is a predominantly white thing. 0.88

00:00:03.080 It descends from European cultural groups.

00:00:06.380 It is a form, a new form, you could call it neo-European imperialism.

00:00:11.000 Its goal is to target and erase the cultures of not just because it's gotten bad at erasing 0.74

00:00:18.820 the cultural background of the people who live near it.

00:00:21.380 You know, they've begun to develop immunity.

00:00:23.480 So now, because as soon as somebody is infected with it, it tells them, oh, we want you to

00:00:29.600 be as happy as possible all the time.

00:00:31.840 Like, do not challenge yourself.

00:00:33.740 Just do whatever that you want to do in the moment.

00:00:36.940 And that will make you happier in the long term, right?

00:00:39.780 And don't allow anyone else to challenge you for doing those things.

00:00:43.000 But in doing that, it makes people not have kids.

00:00:46.260 And it causes bigger problems when they say, okay, well, now we need to get immigrants into 1.00

00:00:49.720 the country because they don't have a resistance to us and we'll just take their children. 0.99

00:00:53.880 And well, then these immigrant groups, they begin to get wise to this as well.

00:00:58.980 And they're like, hey, I don't want you to take our kids.

00:01:02.100 And then people like us, traditional conservatives, we go to the immigrant groups and we're like,

00:01:06.740 oh, we have a lot in common with you.

00:01:09.940 You don't want our children. 0.87

00:01:11.740 We don't want your children. 0.51

00:01:13.620 We are both terrified of the same thing.

00:01:16.280 Let us work together.

00:01:17.960 And I think that this is the real turning that we are having as a society now.

00:01:24.980 Would you like to know more?

00:01:27.220 Record.

00:01:27.520 I hit record.

00:01:28.800 Oh, great.

00:01:29.340 Perfect.

00:01:29.800 Good.

00:01:30.220 You're so smart.

00:01:30.480 I'm not going to forget this time, Sean.

00:01:32.020 You're so pretty and smart.

00:01:33.860 You are very pretty.

00:01:36.560 I know you're also smart.

00:01:38.300 I'm messing with you. 0.96

00:01:39.000 No, my brain can't handle things because it's so female. 1.00

00:01:44.620 I don't know how to deal with that.

00:01:46.200 So one of the things that we often get is people are like, why don't you do more like explicitly

00:01:52.860 pronatalist stuff or explicitly stuff about the virus or explicitly stuff about stuff that

00:01:58.820 are like main talking points for us when we're on other podcasts.

00:02:01.540 And the core reason is, is we've actually tried to, like we've recorded a number of episodes

00:02:06.520 on the topic of the virus and how it works, but they end up like, you know, like a cart

00:02:12.200 following a path that's been read, written through a bunch of times and grooves get dug

00:02:17.340 into the path.

00:02:18.020 And then the cart just slips into those grooves and it ends up going the same route.

00:02:22.000 It's gone every time.

00:02:23.600 And that leads to a very boring conversation because it's the exact same talking points

00:02:28.020 I go through whenever I'm on somebody else's show.

00:02:30.200 And I know that you guys have heard all of them before.

00:02:32.480 And so I don't want to bore you with them.

00:02:34.320 And so in talking about the virus this time, we're going to give it another shot, but we're

00:02:39.140 going to do something different.

00:02:40.360 We are going to explore it through the lens of a specific organization to understand how the

00:02:46.840 virus spreads and how to potentially fight the virus, how to recognize the virus and how

00:02:52.860 it works.

00:02:53.720 So when I talk about the virus, I'm talking about the cult, whatever you want to call it,

00:02:58.240 this thing that is becoming an increasing and increasing influence in our society.

00:03:04.820 People want to call it wokeness, but calling it wokeness is wrong.

00:03:08.700 It extends so far beyond just the wokes. 0.96

00:03:13.380 It's also specifically not actually in advocacy or in favor of what you would consider to be

00:03:19.860 woke advocacy or social justice.

00:03:21.480 Like it doesn't serve actual social justice outcomes.

00:03:24.720 Anyone who actually cares about these causes is going to find over time that this is doing

00:03:28.060 more harm than good.

00:03:29.340 So also it is unfair to call it woke because it is inherently not woke.

00:03:32.440 It is inherently hurting the woke platform.

00:03:35.580 And so you actually had a great way of putting this in context with like the current conflict

00:03:41.340 in Gaza.

00:03:42.660 Do you want to?

00:03:43.660 I don't remember.

00:03:44.820 Oh yeah.

00:03:45.460 So you were saying that like, you know, in the same way that Hamas will set up its headquarters

00:03:50.240 in hospitals to defend itself and like, you know, be in the most defensible position.

00:03:56.460 Because it knows that to attack it, you have to attack a vulnerable group.

00:04:00.620 Exactly.

00:04:00.900 So it specifically puts itself where, you know, if it gets bombed or something, then they

00:04:05.620 can go, oh, look, they're bombing you in the hospital.

00:04:07.780 You clearly hate children and sick people. 0.98

00:04:10.760 Yeah.

00:04:11.020 So this sort of woke virus sets itself up within the most vulnerable communities.

00:04:17.780 And it uses the agents within those communities to perform the most insane and unspeakable of

00:04:25.360 its injustices so that the other side ends up targeting and bombing those communities basically. 0.98

00:04:31.520 And then it can go, oh, look, gay people, LGBT community, they hate you. 0.98

00:04:35.180 Oh, you know, look, BLM community, they hate you. 1.00

00:04:39.740 But it's because they are intentionally drawing this ire on those communities.

00:04:45.580 It's a strategy that they're using.

00:04:47.680 And they use those communities for protection.

00:04:49.760 So it is a human, it is a human, a vulnerable human shield strategy. 0.87

00:04:53.660 And it is, it is inherently therefore sickening and disgusting. 0.96

00:04:57.780 Yeah. 0.81

00:04:57.960 So they're like, oh, you're attacking wokeism.

00:05:00.120 You must be racist or homophobic or, you know, they'll be to use these words where they've

00:05:06.440 set up their headquarters in these vulnerable communities because they like to use those

00:05:10.440 communities as human shields.

00:05:11.940 But this very tactic, this very tactic victimizes and hurts the causes that it proposes to support

00:05:19.600 the people that it supposes to proposes to protect.

00:05:22.280 While we're talking about what's going on in Israel right now, one of the things that

00:05:27.860 we've been seeing increasingly among our social circles, especially among young people, is

00:05:32.600 I think a lot of young people, they go into life, even if they have these intuitions that

00:05:37.600 like the system that they're living in is lying to them, that it's controlled by this sort

00:05:42.500 of virus or cults.

00:05:44.520 And that for now, they will just stay under the cover.

00:05:48.760 For now, they can probably play it politically neutrally.

00:05:52.080 Like, why do they need to take sides?

00:05:54.680 And then things happen that just like a baseball bat hitting a cage over and over again that

00:06:00.380 they're in, they're like, oh, like this is worse than I thought.

00:06:04.240 I didn't know they were this bad.

00:06:06.760 The response that leftist organizations have had to the atrocities committed by Hamas for 0.63

00:06:15.400 a lot of the young Gen Z that we know in the US, who at least was like, I'd say, open

00:06:21.680 to truths.

00:06:22.160 I won't even say that they were partially right-leaning, has really been radicalized.

00:06:28.300 I think one of the things that keeps happening with the left is they do not realize when they

00:06:33.940 are radicalizing these communities because they have created an environment where these

00:06:38.680 communities are afraid to speak freely or let them know how angry they are getting or

00:06:45.100 how much of their opinion of the left has changed.

00:06:48.640 But what I can say is opinions are shifting really severely due to the approved set of

00:06:55.700 responses to what's been going on here.

00:06:58.800 And people should buckle the fuck up for what ends up coming after this. 0.97

00:07:02.620 And the left would be like, oh, you must mean like young Jews. 0.98

00:07:04.520 No, I mean like young Iranians in the US, like they are horrified at the response, horrified.

00:07:12.200 But anyway, to get to this, we, for this topic, are going to use TED as an organization to sort

00:07:20.300 of do an anatomy of what it looks like for an organization to become infected and what

00:07:26.520 makes an organization vulnerable to infection.

00:07:29.060 To this memetic virus, which again is not a woke virus.

00:07:32.060 It is a strong memetic virus that has been strengthened in the face of globalism, the

00:07:36.220 internet, you know, basically technology that has allowed this memetic strain to make itself

00:07:42.200 invulnerable.

00:07:43.300 And like a rapid iteration.

00:07:44.920 Number of like features, like we're not, it's not like a vague thing.

00:07:48.500 Like people will ask, well, what do you mean by wokeness?

00:07:51.560 So this virus that we're talking about, sometimes when people are trying to define wokeness, which

00:07:57.440 again, this is not one-to-one overlap with wokeness, it's a much bigger thing than just

00:08:02.100 wokeness, but it is what the naive identify as wokeness.

00:08:06.720 It is a virulent memetic strain.

00:08:08.880 It's a virulent memetic strain that is not defined by a set of values, which is very important.

00:08:15.360 It's more defined by a set of behavior patterns, a set of ways it infiltrates organizations, a

00:08:21.380 set of ways it proliferates within organizations, and a set of ways that it enforces its cultural

00:08:26.800 norms.

00:08:27.600 It is much closer to saying, what is Buddhism or something like that?

00:08:33.020 It's like, well, that's a really complex set of belief systems, except unlike Buddhism, it's

00:08:37.680 not a traditional intergenerational belief system, but rather a virus that spreads not

00:08:43.680 through improving the quality of life of people who hold it as a belief and encouraging them to

00:08:48.160 have more kids, but through using them as vectors through which it can convert organizations

00:08:53.440 and then use organizations to convert additional infected vectors.

00:08:58.220 So let's talk about TED.

00:09:02.140 Yes, TED.

00:09:03.140 Most people are familiar with TED Talks.

00:09:04.900 Almost certainly you have watched a TED Talk.

00:09:07.060 These are also very expensive to attend conferences.

00:09:09.840 This has been happening for like, what, roughly 20 years.

00:09:12.660 This originally was a pretty high quality speaking series that would, you know, be attended in the

00:09:19.960 form of a conference and then the talks would be made available for free online through TED's

00:09:23.300 website and through YouTube.

00:09:24.720 These are talks that get millions of views.

00:09:26.900 You know, whoever is invited to give a TED Talk is able to have, you know, significant reach.

00:09:31.560 It boosts ideas.

00:09:32.780 It has changed the course of research academically, for example.

00:09:36.800 Some researcher will give a TED Talk.

00:09:39.460 It will change the way that everyone views a subject.

00:09:42.040 And then later, it'll turn out that their research wasn't replicated.

00:09:44.980 This is actually a common issue with TED Talks that we're not going to talk about on this podcast.

00:09:49.140 But this is, suffice it to say, TED Talks are extremely influential.

00:09:52.780 They make and break careers.

00:09:54.340 And they also change the way that, I would say, like a certain educated leadership knowledge

00:09:59.340 worker class of developed world comes to view reality.

00:10:02.740 Before you go further, given what you have laid out about TED Talks already, I think that

00:10:08.480 the audience can see and infer why a virus trying to spread memetically would differentially

00:10:15.420 target this organization.

00:10:17.100 Right.

00:10:17.380 Like if, for example, a virus benefits from infecting a super spreader who is exposing themselves

00:10:23.780 and intimately contacting the vulnerable, that is to say, like capable of catching contagion

00:10:30.900 parts of other organisms, right?

00:10:33.360 So this is the perfect vector, the perfect vector to infect.

00:10:36.540 If you wanted to set the narrative to determine what's true and what's untrue and to spread

00:10:41.720 to as many people as possible.

00:10:43.440 And it's very important to determine what's true and untrue.

00:10:45.780 Because this means if something threatens your ability to spread as a memetic virus, if some

00:10:49.980 fact, if some study, well, now you can use this institution to suppress that, which allows

00:10:56.340 you to spread faster within other organizations.

00:10:59.440 So you as TED would be a key target for the virus.

00:11:04.260 So would universities.

00:11:06.320 So would media institutions.

00:11:10.040 And lo and behold.

00:11:10.640 So would academic institutions.

00:11:12.600 Like these are all of the top targeted institutions.

00:11:16.140 So would newspapers.

00:11:17.020 So would anything like this.

00:11:18.200 Anything that has a wide reach like this is going to have a huge amount of effort to break

00:11:23.680 it by the virus.

00:11:24.900 This is why Twitter was so infected by the time that Musk acquired it.

00:11:31.340 It was the perfect institution to infect if you wanted to spread a memetic virus and disseminate

00:11:37.200 it as widely as possible within a population.

00:11:39.560 So continue.

00:11:40.840 Yeah.

00:11:41.420 And so to give an example of like the influence that TED Talks have had, someone gave a TED

00:11:46.200 Talk on power poses.

00:11:47.680 That is to say, like standing with your legs spread and your hands on your hips, you know,

00:11:51.760 really affected people's behavior.

00:11:53.620 Then I just like everyone believed that, you know, everyone wrote about, of course, this

00:11:57.420 is reality.

00:11:58.060 And then, you know, later that there was some nuance introduced, you know, that that information

00:12:02.940 hasn't perfectly been replicated, you know, caveat, caveat.

00:12:05.880 But by that point, it was too late.

00:12:07.420 Like this is already spread.

00:12:08.360 This is already what people believe.

00:12:09.980 And so, you know, there were very innocuous ways in which TED Talks were capable of releasing

00:12:14.560 misinformation.

00:12:15.620 But anyway, most people still love them.

00:12:17.100 Most people kept going year after year.

00:12:18.700 If they were, you know, among those paying insane amounts of money to attend in person.

00:12:22.920 And then I, I, I'm sure you noticed this.

00:12:26.680 And I know this is too, after a while, like we just stopped listening to TED Talks because

00:12:30.560 they were really bad.

00:12:31.480 And most of them just felt like they were kind of about social justice narratives.

00:12:34.740 And we're like, oh, you know, what's going on here?

00:12:36.920 And I recently listened to an all in podcast episode, of course, great podcast.

00:12:41.160 Everyone listens to it about what happened to TED.

00:12:44.360 And they interviewed Coleman Hughes, who was invited to go on to TED and give a talk on

00:12:50.460 basically on his choice.

00:12:51.700 And the way that TED works when you're invited to go give a TED Talk is you choose your subject.

00:12:56.620 You're invited.

00:12:57.480 This is a huge privilege.

00:12:59.120 And then you go through a huge amount of coaching and iteration to give this very tight

00:13:03.920 20 minute approximately talk.

00:13:06.320 And then you go on stage and you give the talk and everyone loves you and you enjoy massive

00:13:10.100 success because of the platform boost that you just got.

00:13:13.040 So Coleman Hughes, his, he wanted to talk about his next book.

00:13:16.700 The book is called The End of Race Politics.

00:13:19.260 And he wanted to talk about why we should be colorblind.

00:13:22.860 And on the all in podcast, he was interviewing, he talked about his experience, giving this

00:13:27.080 TED Talk about why we should all be colorblind and seeing what happened when he gave what you

00:13:32.900 would consider to be a heterodox statement.

00:13:35.060 I mean, it's, it's a pretty controversial thing to argue in favor of colorblindness and to

00:13:39.240 argue anything, anything that doesn't tow the mainstream line of, of anti-racism, even

00:13:45.380 if you're black and he is super, super dangerous thing to do. 1.00

00:13:48.300 And he described what he experienced. 0.92

00:13:49.980 And in a nutshell, what he experienced was he gave the talk.

00:13:52.300 96% of the audience was like super fine and cool with it.

00:13:55.580 A couple of people, especially people on stage, you noticed like viscerally and physically

00:14:00.140 reacted negatively to his talk.

00:14:02.280 And then after he gave his talk, a subgroup within the TED staff, that is to say like this

00:14:08.360 conference staff, you know, like submitted a formal complaint about his talk, that this

00:14:13.380 was intolerable, that TED was platforming, you know, the horrible, racist, terrible ideas.

00:14:19.100 And then Coleman Hughes ended up finding himself in this protracted negotiation with the organization

00:14:23.180 TED about how his talk was going to be released on their website and on YouTube.

00:14:27.080 And ultimately, after not agreeing to have his talk appended with a debate discussing the

00:14:34.060 legitimacy of his views, or even released on the same day as that debate, which he did

00:14:38.280 agree to have and which he did have, he had his video released.

00:14:42.500 And then later the debate was released, but he found that his video only got 13% of the

00:14:47.320 traffic given to the lowest performing video that was also released that day.

00:14:51.360 In other words, TED clearly had throttled the amount of traffic and visibility that his video

00:14:55.240 had gotten. And he became very sort of disenchanted with the organization of TED, that he was sort

00:15:00.660 of misled. He wasn't told that his video would have throttled breach. He, you know, TED was

00:15:06.260 supposed to be a place where people could discuss heterodox ideas, revolutionary ideas, dangerous

00:15:10.680 ideas. And this was sort of like the tipping point at which it was just super obvious that

00:15:14.500 this organization had been hollowed out. Now, the guy who invited him to talk probably was pretty

00:15:20.740 cool with his message. But the problem is that by this point, he would have experienced essentially

00:15:27.040 an employee rebellion had he not conceded to the complaints of this very passionate group

00:15:33.980 that he submitted, you know, an impassioned complaint.

00:15:36.660 Let's talk about why the virus would care about this message being distributed.

00:15:40.560 So what the virus tells people and organizations in order to affect it is that only by accepting

00:15:50.540 us, accepting our faith, basically, I mean, it's really like a religion or a cult, can you remove

00:15:55.740 all emotional pain first from your organization and then from the world. And the thesis of the virus

00:16:03.820 is that emotional pain is something that is born overwhelmingly by specific groups of individuals

00:16:11.600 who are more vulnerable than other groups of individuals. And through teaching everyone to

00:16:17.960 treat these vulnerable individuals as sort of elevated status of sort of priests of the virus,

00:16:26.740 then we can fix this. And through always subverting your ideas to them. So

00:16:33.460 if two people disagree with in a company, and one of them is of one of these protected groups,

00:16:38.360 and the other one isn't, then the one who isn't has to back down from this disagreement. And the one

00:16:46.080 who is has to say, aha, I was right. The core groups raised are trans individuals, women,

00:16:53.320 within BIPOC people.

00:16:54.520 I mean, we're more talking about intersectionality. So it's actually like what who has the combination

00:16:58.900 of the most vulnerable statuses. Exactly. But as soon as it begins is these ideas begin to infect an

00:17:06.380 organization, they give enormous power to anyone who happens to be of one of these groups, which

00:17:13.860 incentivizes them to encourage the expansion of these ideas and bodies within the organization

00:17:23.460 that enforce these ideas. And one of the reasons why, and we said this, why the definition of transness,

00:17:29.720 like we would be considered trans by the current definition of transness. Specifically, we don't

00:17:33.680 really identify with any gender. I just don't think it's that important, which makes us a gender, which

00:17:37.200 makes us gender queer, which makes us trans. Why is it important that the trans identity continues to 0.95

00:17:42.640 expand? And it's not something that you can scientifically pin down, something we talk about in the

00:17:46.480 Trans People Are Canonically Magical video. Because I do think there are real trans people who were 1.00

00:17:50.980 really and are in some environments still really persecuted against. It's because it allows any 0.95

00:17:57.300 individual within one of these organizations to become one of these disenfranchised classes like we

00:18:03.020 could. We could just say we're trans because we are technically trans by the definitions of trans.

00:18:06.400 We wanted to take the social cost of identifying that way publicly. But we would be, in this case,

00:18:13.760 all of a sudden within any conservative organization likely, have our statuses dramatically lower.

00:18:18.720 But within organizations that are infected, have our status dramatically raised. So now we have a

00:18:24.040 huge incentive to promote and expand the infection to new organizations that we are affiliated with.

00:18:30.640 So we are also on the board of some other organization or something like that. So once these

00:18:35.160 individuals are like, okay, I want to expand within this organization. I want the power of these ideas

00:18:40.040 to grow within this organization. I want to infect more people. If you think of organizations as a sort of

00:18:44.580 nodal cloud, I want to infect more people in the organization with the virus. How do you do that?

00:18:48.500 Well, what you do is you set up ESG departments or you set up, and not all ESG departments. Some ESG

00:18:55.820 departments are like actual good ESG departments, but some are really just like, we're going to give

00:18:59.600 everyone in this organization a test to make sure they all hold the same ideas about how power should

00:19:05.500 be structured in our society and about norms for interacting with other people. And they're going

00:19:11.960 to understand why it's important that if they're in any other organizations, that they cause those

00:19:15.980 organizations to create an ESG department. I think of it almost like a cancer. When a cancer forms in

00:19:20.740 a human, it releases hormones that cause like blood vessels to begin to grow around it. So that is

00:19:25.240 getting a disproportionate amount of nutrients and energy from the organization that is not tied to

00:19:29.940 the organization's real mission or message. This is not what Ted was about. Ted was not about spreading

00:19:35.300 the ideas of the cult of the virus. But as soon as the virus had set itself up within the organization,

00:19:42.200 then it began to develop these tumors, which you will see in any infected organization.

00:19:46.660 These tumors then begin to convert as many people within the organization as possible,

00:19:51.560 while also silencing any output from the organization that might be in any way unuseful to

00:19:59.260 the virus or the cult. And so that's what had happened with Ted at this point. It became

00:20:04.760 this sort of tumorous zombie. Now, eventually, as you've seen with Ted, nobody listens to it anymore,

00:20:10.540 really. Or I mean, it still has reach, but nothing like it used to. And so this virus lacks a lot of

00:20:16.760 intentionality. It may have the intentionality of a slime mold. It can be like, this organization has a

00:20:20.420 lot of reach. So the iterations of myself that targeted organizations with a lot of reach outcompeted

00:20:25.200 the iterations of myself. Basically, it's just evolution. The iterations of it that disproportionately

00:20:30.400 target organizations with a lot of reach are the iterations of it that exist in higher numbers.

00:20:35.180 But another thing happens, because all iterations of it kill the host. All iterations of it make the

00:20:41.380 host, or at least make the host ineffective. Well, then the host can no longer spread the message

00:20:45.240 anymore. So then it needs to kill the host, or the iterations of it which did kill the host

00:20:49.340 were the ones that spread more. This makes it more parasitoidal than like a typical parasite.

00:20:54.320 Like one of those wasps that weighs caterpillar, like little worms inside a caterpillar that split

00:20:59.440 open from the caterpillar. Yeah. And what you mean by parasitoidal, because not everyone has a

00:21:03.600 biology background or it's been a while. Parasitoids are different from parasites in that they always

00:21:07.340 kill the host. So the classic example is one of these caterpillars where a wasp lays its eggs in it,

00:21:12.760 and then the little worms eat it from the inside and explode out from it. Or, you know, that ant,

00:21:18.040 the fungus that grows in the ant's brain and causes it to climb high on the stocking and then

00:21:22.420 spurt from its head. So then spurs, spores can go as far as possible. But this is an important

00:21:28.400 distinction, because if you actually care about the values that many of these most vulnerable to

00:21:34.640 the virus, to the cult organizations support, you really need to understand the actual dynamics of

00:21:42.700 this virus that is spreading within them and destroying their causes. Because their causes are

00:21:49.000 extremely undermined by the presence of the virus, by the virus hollowing them out and taking them

00:21:54.620 over. Yeah. So any organization, when it reaches a late stage infection, which is just like a certain

00:22:00.760 number of people within the organization infected to a certain degree, where really all they're ever

00:22:05.480 thinking about is the virus anymore, they're no longer useful. Like if all of these nodes are sort

00:22:10.080 of captured within this one cloud, so the virus needs to rip open the cloud so the nodes can spill out

00:22:14.640 like spores into the environment and affect a bunch of different organizations. You know, this is what

00:22:18.940 happened with Occupy Wall Street. This is what happened with Gawker. I mean, obviously there was

00:22:23.680 external pressures on that one as well. This is what happened with Chaz or CHOP or whatever you want

00:22:27.600 to call it. You begin to see the leadership become radically divided. Everyone begins accusing everyone

00:22:34.000 else of whatever, right? And they begin fighting a bunch. And the internal power fights lead to the

00:22:41.020 organization dying, splitting up, and the spores going out and infecting new organizations now that

00:22:46.620 they've been sort of completely brainwashed. And this is, as Simone said, really bad because it

00:22:52.960 means that the organizations that this virus disproportionately targets, which are usually

00:22:56.880 the most historically pro-social organizations because they're the most open to infection.

00:23:01.080 You know, if it goes to, let's talk about like religious organizations. If it goes to a conservative

00:23:05.160 iteration of one of these religious organizations, they'll just tell it to fuck off. But if it goes to an 1.00

00:23:08.960 extremely historically progressive one, and this is why it's so common in progressive environments,

00:23:14.340 and why it has hollowed out so many progressive causes, you know, whether that be the civil rights

00:23:17.640 movement or feminism or anything, you know, now these things or the progressive iterations of

00:23:22.200 many religions, this is why, you know, when we say, you know, if you ask progressive Muslim or

00:23:26.920 progressive Catholic or progressive Protestant, you know, what do you think of gender? What do you

00:23:29.980 think of sexuality? What do you think of our relationship to the environment? What do you think of morality?

00:23:34.220 What do you think of like the future of humanity should be? You're going to get the exact same answers.

00:23:37.360 But if you talk to conservatives from those traditions, they'll have wildly different answers

00:23:42.060 because they aren't really of that tradition anymore. They're of one cultural group, the virus, 0.97

00:23:47.240 which, or the cult or whatever you want to call it, which has hollowed out their traditions and now

00:23:51.540 wears them like a ghoulish skin suit. So when I go to someone and, and I'm like, Hey, what you are 1.00

00:23:58.500 doing under the name of feminism is one clearly against the actual goals of feminism and two really cruel and 0.56

00:24:06.140 messed up and dehumanizing of men. And they'll say, well, look at all the great things feminism

00:24:12.020 did historically. And I'm like, yeah, but you're not acting like those people. You're not doing the

00:24:15.420 things that they did historically. You are just operating on the same orders that everyone else

00:24:20.520 who's infected with the virus is operating.

00:24:22.280 Well, and we also need to look at outcomes. When you look at what past feminist activists did and 0.99

00:24:26.420 you see what happened, Oh, women got the right to vote. Oh, women entered the workplace. Oh, 0.87

00:24:30.680 women entered universities at much higher rates. What's happening now. One of the leading male

00:24:35.620 figure influencers among youth is Andrew Tate. Like this is clearly not working very well anymore.

00:24:42.180 And I think, you know, the same thing exists with racism. When you look at a lot of polling about,

00:24:47.040 you know, are, are, are race relations better in the United States now is racism better in the

00:24:50.740 United States. People are saying, no, it's not. So clearly, you know, all these organizations that

00:24:55.600 purport to be addressing this, that purport to be making it better appear to be making matters

00:25:00.440 worse, or at least making the perception of racism much worse, which is deeply disturbing.

00:25:04.240 And you could argue that actually a lot of the actual racism, much worse. I mean, we can talk

00:25:08.500 for actual, you know, deaths in, in, you know, neighborhoods that are vulnerable or higher

00:25:15.020 now because, you know, post Pope George Floyd protest, et cetera. Right. That's what you're

00:25:18.720 talking about. 0.95

00:25:19.380 Well, I'm telling you what, you know, what doesn't help black people is removing police 1.00

00:25:22.560 from black neighborhoods. If you, if you look at polling from black communities, they did not 1.00

00:25:26.560 want this to happen. This was just the virus, you know, it does not care about the people 0.93

00:25:31.380 it hurts.

00:25:31.860 It is not helping the causes it purports to support.

00:25:35.060 BLM as a burning down Hispanic neighborhoods. And let's be clear, that's what they were burning 1.00

00:25:40.140 down. A lot of people are not like, because the media really hides what's happening in a

00:25:45.500 lot of these instances, they will not tell things that are off message to people. If you look at the

00:25:50.460 LA riots, why was it the Korean communities were disproportionately targeted? A lot of people don't know

00:25:55.560 this. They're like, they know about the Korean roof ciphers, but they don't know about the rest

00:25:59.220 of what was going on. They don't know why the Korean neighborhoods were targeted is because

00:26:03.180 they were recent immigrants. So they often lived around where intergenerational poverty occurred

00:26:09.060 in black neighborhoods. So they wouldn't be on the outskirts of this. So when they would go out 0.97

00:26:12.380 and they were destroying things, it was mostly recent immigrant neighborhoods. In the recent BLM 0.98

00:26:17.620 riots, this shops being burnt down as people who have a very wide network of Hispanic friends.

00:26:24.320 The way that information travels within those communities is different than the way it travels

00:26:29.000 within mainstream communities. It mostly travels through family networks. And they know who burnt

00:26:34.780 down their stores. They know exactly, after a year of liberal hand-wringing about wanting to help

00:26:39.580 Hispanic immigrants, who ignored them when people were ransacking their neighborhoods. And the horror

00:26:46.680 that they went through, and the family members that they, and the businesses that they had worked

00:26:50.840 everything for, given everything for, that were destroyed. And I think that there is a backlash

00:26:58.160 growing to this. And let's be clear, the virus is a predominantly white thing. It claims to care 0.99

00:27:05.880 about, you know, black people. It claims to care about, it's mostly a white thing. It descends from 0.76

00:27:12.420 European cultural groups. It is a form, a new form, you could call it neo-European imperialism.

00:27:18.740 Its goal is to target and erase the cultures of, not just because it's gotten bad at erasing the 0.90

00:27:26.960 cultural background of the people who live near it. You know, they've begun to develop immunity. 0.96

00:27:30.920 So now, as soon as somebody's infected with it, it tells them, oh, we want you to be as happy as

00:27:37.860 possible all the time. Like, do not challenge yourself. Just do whatever that you want to do

00:27:44.280 in the moment. And that will make you happier in the long term, right? And don't allow anyone else

00:27:49.000 to challenge you for doing those things. But in doing that, it makes people not have kids.

00:27:53.460 I think another really good example of this virus clearly not supporting the causes that it

00:28:01.820 purports to support, and specifically growing by playing the intersectionality game, that is to say

00:28:08.040 by trying to champion whoever is seen optics-wise as being a victim, is showing up in the recent Israel-Gaza-Palestine

00:28:17.440 conflict in that there's a lot of super pro-LGBT groups that are 100% siding with Hamas. Not like

00:28:25.940 Palestinians, but Hamas, which is super not in favor of LGBT rights, which really just goes to show

00:28:34.220 how far and how blatant this has become. Like, when an organization is that rotten, when it will

00:28:40.320 actively support an ally itself with, only because it appears to be the underdog in mainstream media,

00:28:47.440 you know, an organization that actively-

00:28:49.820 No, it's not because it appears to be the underdog. Actually, I think you're wrong about this.

00:28:52.260 The virus is incredibly anti-Semitic. It is intentionally doing this because the people 1.00

00:28:57.520 they're killing are Jews. And I think that this is something you miss. Why is the virus anti-Semitic? 0.98

00:29:02.220 Yeah, why?

00:29:03.680 So the reason why the virus is anti-Semitic is because-

00:29:08.400 Isn't it because Jews succeed? I mean, it does play, it grows through intersectionality.

00:29:12.320 It will undermine its entire narrative.

00:29:14.460 Oh, that's right.

00:29:15.320 Its narrative is all inequality in the world comes from oppression.

00:29:21.360 And therefore, oppressed groups don't succeed because of inequality.

00:29:25.540 If there's a group that's disproportionately succeeding, it is definitionally oppressive.

00:29:30.840 Yeah.

00:29:31.000 Worse, if it is disproportionately succeeding and it says it used to be an oppressed group or is still

00:29:37.440 an oppressed group, if it says that it had this holocaust against it, well, that must be a lie 0.97

00:29:42.540 because the group cannot both be oppressed and succeeding. That goes against the narrative.

00:29:48.580 Right, right. 0.99

00:29:48.900 So for the virus to survive, the Jews must go. And I think many reformed Jews are just now waking up 1.00

00:29:57.380 to how virulently anti-Semitic the virus is, but they've already gotten too deep. There's nothing

00:30:03.340 they can do. You know, I've seen videos of like Jewish people, like stomping on the Israeli flag 1.00

00:30:08.300 while holding Hamas flags and stuff like that. Like it is wild, but it shows you, you know,

00:30:15.020 these are not people who are having kids. And that's the thing about the virus. It doesn't have

00:30:18.680 kids. It can only survive by taking the kids of other people. It'll have one or two, but like, 0.98

00:30:22.400 you're not going to get anywhere near above repopulation rate. And this causes problems as groups

00:30:26.100 develop resistance to this. And it causes bigger problems when they say, okay, well now we need

00:30:30.420 to get immigrants into the country because they don't have a resistance to us. And we'll just

00:30:34.400 take their children and we'll march them through the streets. And well, then these immigrant groups, 0.98

00:30:39.580 they begin to get wise to this as well. And they're like, Hey, I don't want you to take our kids.

00:30:45.060 And then people like us, traditional conservatives, we go to the immigrant groups and we're like, Oh,

00:30:50.380 we have a lot in common with you. You don't want our children. We don't want your

00:30:55.860 children. We are both terrified of the same thing. Let us work together. And I think that

00:31:02.380 this is the real turning that we are having as a society now, which is increasingly, and you can

00:31:09.300 look at the statistics on this. You can look at Hispanic groups in the U S and look at Muslims

00:31:13.300 like Andrew Tate, obviously conservative influencer, also a Muslim. You look at people like Oliver

00:31:19.740 Anthony, the guy who wrote Richmond, North of Richmond, America's greatest strengths is our

00:31:22.780 university. Increasingly immigrant communities are beginning to realize and minority communities

00:31:31.040 are beginning to realize that yes, the virus will say it cares about them. We'll say it protects them.

00:31:37.040 But from, but when push comes to shove, only people who actually durably will create real just

00:31:44.400 deals with them is the conservative movement. And we will help them protect what really matters,

00:31:51.120 which is their culture and their children. And I think that her things begin to shift when the, 0.94

00:31:59.380 we say that this cultural genocide must stop. Yeah. Well, I think what's interesting is that,

00:32:06.320 you know, you and I, at least as millennials came of age in a world in which conservatism really

00:32:11.520 wasn't the, the movement that protected diversity, the movement that was like, let you be you.

00:32:17.720 It was like an LGBT theocratic thing. And now, now the interesting thing is it still has those 1.00

00:32:23.620 groups within it, but suddenly conservatism has become rather like a collection of city

00:32:28.360 states that are all trying to resist this one colonizing entity. And so it is, it is a very

00:32:33.120 different thing now than it used to be. And I think, you know, a lot of people who consider

00:32:37.280 themselves to still be progressive, who just yet, they've yet to be burned by the movement that

00:32:42.100 they've yet to really understand.

00:32:43.540 Yeah. We were talking with someone recently and I was like, you know, you should be, you're like,

00:32:46.780 how is, how does he still self-identify as a progressive? Yeah. And, and what we realized

00:32:51.120 is he was in this position where he didn't need to interact with infected organizations a lot,

00:32:56.860 but, and this is the story that happens to everyone. And we were somewhat alluding to this

00:33:01.460 at the beginning. They think they can play by the virus's rule. They think they can play both

00:33:06.260 sides because they think it's just a more extreme version of the Democrats that they knew in the nineties.

00:33:12.200 It is a completely different thing. It is wearing their corpse. It is not them. 0.98

00:33:19.500 The moment you say something that is heretical, you will be tied to the stake and you will be burned

00:33:27.040 and you will say, Oh, this is what everyone warned me against. You move ahead of this and you have some

00:33:34.780 protection against it. Look at us. We have said the wildest stuff. We have had newspapers write

00:33:40.820 angry things about us, but we have yet to be canceled because there is strengths in numbers

00:33:46.680 and there is strength. The people who it really targets are the people who it sees as infiltrating

00:33:51.900 it. And by that, what I mean, the people who try to identify as moderates or progressives,

00:33:57.820 but who are saying things that could heed the spread of the virus.

00:34:02.240 Now, fortunately, eventually the virus self extinguishes because it's so sterilizing because

00:34:06.640 other groups develop resistance to it. But the question is, is how much damage does it do in

00:34:10.760 the meantime? How many lives does it destroy in the meantime? If I look at the people who are

00:34:14.600 infected, they are despondent. They believe there's no hope in the future. Hope has been stolen from

00:34:19.920 them. Vitality has been stolen from them. Dynamism has been stolen from them. It's like

00:34:23.580 there's nothing behind their eyes anymore. It's so sad, but what can we do? We're trying the best we

00:34:31.940 can to save as many people as possible and as diverse a group as people as possible.

00:34:35.760 Well, so what we say in the Pragmatist Guide to Crafting Religion, what I think we earnestly

00:34:39.320 believe is going to have to happen. And I see this being discussed on everything from

00:34:43.580 the All In podcast to like Barry Weiss's publication and her philosophy in general

00:34:47.980 is, you know, to make it through this, you are not going to be able to stop the virus. The virus,

00:34:53.660 this cult that is growing is a lot like climate change and demographic collapse. It is happening.

00:35:00.080 The momentum is there. It's unstoppable. All we can do is plan around it and try to reduce

00:35:04.380 the damage that is done by it while it plays out its course. So really the solution is to

00:35:09.620 build alternate channels, to build alternate communities. And we would say that there are

00:35:14.140 many, many groups that are doing this quite successfully. People who are building alternate

00:35:18.860 community structures, alternate, even like informal governing systems. Sometimes they're DAOs,

00:35:24.020 sometimes they're just literal, you know, communities and co-ops. Alternate media empires,

00:35:27.860 of course, are slowly growing, although it's, it's difficult to get the critical mass to get

00:35:31.700 something really big. So, you know, think about where you can build your own alternate

00:35:36.740 networks and communities and businesses and everything else. If this is something that you're

00:35:41.600 concerned about. Yeah. Well, anyway, I love you. Okay. Bye. I love you. Bye.

00:35:47.400 Bye.

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Based Camp - October 30, 2023

The Virus! (How Wokeism Kills Organizations)

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