The War on Tomboys： How Both the Right & the Left are Threatening a Beloved American Archetype
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the death of the tomboy and the impending apocalypse that our species is currently facing. We talk about what it means to be a tomboy, why tomboys are dying out, and what we should do about it.
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So both the left and the right have in their own way declared war on tomboys.
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So the left has done this in the trans movement.
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So the trans movement says, if you are a girl, but you like boy-like things,
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and you like dressing like a boy, and you like-
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Quick update on the house, because I've been pretty terrible about giving y'all these.
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This accent needs to be illegal, and women should be banned from doing manual labor like this.
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Lebanese women are literally perfect, and they're actually feminine,
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unlike estrogen-deficient American women who hold the record for the highest testosterone levels in the world.
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Which is interesting, because it shows that she doesn't seem to understand what testosterone does in women.
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The rate to which they are sexually interested, it increases how prominent their cheekbones are.
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Pretty much everything that your average American man finds attractive in a woman.
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But this woman is explicitly arguing for an Eastern European slash Muslim iteration of femininity,
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which is very different from the form of femininity, which is traditional with an American culture.
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Some people look down on me, but I don't give a rip.
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I stand there, put it in my own front yard with a baby on my hip.
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So we're doing the Tomboy episode right now, right?
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And the Tomboy apocalypse that our species is currently facing.
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Tomboy, for people who don't know this term, it's an American term that means a girl who is predisposed to acting like a guy and dressing like a guy.
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So in my generation, it's a bit different from this generation, because now most Tom girls have been depleted, and we'll explain what happened there.
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But in my generation, this would have been the girl with the ponytail through the baseball cap, who was a little bit sporty, the freckles from being out in the sun a little too much, like hunting, like fishing, playing outdoors a lot.
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And it was a little more masculine than other girls like to wear.
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My thing, oh God, and I just drool over this when I see it.
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Like my classic Tomboy trope is when they go out and they would go swimming with us.
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To simply define it is for a young woman to show a higher than average number of male
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So playing sports, being more physically active, being more physically aggressive, being more
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Those were all tomboy traits and often more dressing like a boy.
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So I had some friends when I was little who weren't actually that tomboyish in behavior,
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but they were often seen as a tomboy because they had older siblings that were all boys.
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So of course they were male clothing as a hand-me-down kind of thing.
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Like in, there's this picture of me with one of my friends on our first day of kindergarten
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and she's wearing this like old pair of overalls.
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It's got like a shirt and I'm wearing the frilliest dress that you have ever seen.
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So I think that's something that also comes up to outfit choices and who's dressing you
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can influence whether or not you're perceived as a tomboy.
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So both the left and the right have in their own way declared war on tomboys.
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So the left has done this in the trans movement.
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So the trans movement says, if you are a girl, but you like boy-like things and you like dressing
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So they look at these girls who prefer playing video games and doing boy-like hobbies,
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So people in especially certain circles of society are not being allowed to be tomboys.
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I don't know if you say allowed, if you're talking about permanently chemically castrated,
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having their breasts removed surgically while they are preteens.
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They are surgically mutilating tomboys because they do not gender conform to the left binary
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And if you're going to say here, nobody ever transitions because they were socially pressured
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to, this is just an obviously untrue statement.
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Or I guess you could say all detransitioners are faking it.
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You can invalidate somebody's lived experience when it goes against your ideology, but you
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must affirm it if it goes along with your ideology instead of admitting that maybe both sides
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Maybe there are real trans people, but there are also people who are socially pressured
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to transition when it wasn't the right decision for them.
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And what I can tell you is every young tomboy girl I have met in the past maybe five years
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or so has confided in me that they have felt enormous social pressure to transition.
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And some have even reported incidences to me of individuals calling them transphobic for
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presenting masculine traits, but not transitioning or not adopting male gender pronouns, or at
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And if you think I am exaggerating, here are the comments under that random image of a tomboy
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The very top one is encouraging them to think of themselves as gender non-binary or trans and
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letting them know that they will receive social affirmation if they do that.
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Doesn't this mean that I would be a really wonderful dystopian national leader?
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Because I just have so many diplomatic ways to word things.
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I'm just like, they're not allowed to be tomboys.
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What a pleasant way to say that they underwent surgery, that there is no...
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Because this is one of the things that's often talked about in the trans community, is
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that it's quite easy, or not quite easy, but much easier for male to female trans individuals
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to detransition than female to male people to detransition.
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And that it's often not told to female to male transitioners how difficult it is to detransition.
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This is especially the case if you've only undergone chemical transition instead of surgical
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Because a lot of this stuff is framed as being completely temporary.
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And this has actually been seen in some of the recent stuff that's come out.
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But it's not just the left that's creating this phenomenon.
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And I want to call out right anti-tomboyism because...
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Our boys are going to need to date spunky young girls who like boyish stuff.
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But I don't know where they're going to find tomboys anymore.
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But I'm going to play a video right now that's from one of my long-term favorite YouTubers
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I guess I wasn't famous enough yet or something like that.
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And I think he has really sophisticated takes on things.
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Even if he produces so much content now that it's watered down his very best takes.
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But then I'm like, but I'd have less interesting takes if I produce less content.
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Like the number of interesting takes I have is not based on...
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It's I have a certain number per content I create.
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And then I can condense them into a book eventually.
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So I'll have another book that'll just be interesting takes.
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Quick update on the house because I've been pretty terrible about giving y'all these.
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We took a little break for noodling season and to put out boxes.
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Now that it's dried in, we can do it at our own pace.
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We're going to stain all that wood, a darker brown.
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This accent needs to be illegal and women should be banned from doing manual labor like this.
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There is nothing feminine about American women.
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The person giving this white-hot take is Samira Khan.
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A quick flip through her online presence shows that she's cut from the same cloth as Ann Coulter.
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and very much of the opinion that America's geopolitical enemies, Russia and China,
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Rather, they're authoritarian states that America should emulate.
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The real enemy, in her view, are the Democrats at home.
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She's also very feminine, but in a neo-traditionalist way.
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There's no way this woman would ever be a trad wife, but she's no tomboy either.
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She seems to have the opinion that being a trophy wife to a high-status man
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There's no kids, no wifely duties, nothing like that.
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But she's also not some sort of progressive, sexually open degenerate either.
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Personally though, I'm not a fan of the plastic look.
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Now, Samira Khan got a shit ton of pushback from not only the tomboy lovers out there,
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In her view, the guys that like Hannah Barron can't be straight men,
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because they enjoy masculine women doing masculine things.
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Samira turned the entire thing into a long thread detailing her position.
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Lebanese women are literally perfect, and they're actually feminine,
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who hold the record for the highest testosterone levels in the world.
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This post included a couple of videos of a very made-up woman,
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presumably someone Lebanese, getting ready for her wedding.
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High-value American men should become passport bros.
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Don't they deserve better than the filth they're limited to in their own country?
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This post included a video of Hannah in the water,
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which women are the most physically attractive?
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All the straight men combing over her in the replies
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would be embarrassed to be seen with her in public.
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I just love the delusion of her coming from a different cultural background
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you, it would be god-tiered to get a woman like that with you
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at a formal event in terms of the prestige that would earn you among other men.
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A woman who is not only hot, but builds her own stuff,
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who contributes and who can fish and who can throw down with the boys,
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and who likely knows about all the topics that the boys are interested in.
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Yeah, you really couldn't do better from the perspective of traditional American beauty standards.
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She is trying to judge American women by Eastern European and Muslim beauty standards
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And we are beginning to see this mindset permeate American culture
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because of Americans looking up to men as signals of what masculinity should be
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who has much more of the Eastern European slash Muslim perspective
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One of the Red Pillar men posted a few more Hannah clips
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What kind of man lets his woman work outside like a man?
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So, there's a few things going on in this video I want to note.
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is the accusation of this girl that American women have the highest testosterone rate
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Which is interesting because it shows that she doesn't seem to understand
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So, do you know what testosterone does in your typical straight woman?
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It can make them taller and more assertive and more sexually interested, right?
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Yeah, so typically it increases the rate to which they are sexually interested.
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It increases how prominent their cheekbones are.
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Pretty much everything that I think your average American man finds attractive in a woman.
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You're not like a guy, like, I like a girl with really high cheekbones.
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But this woman is arguing for a, and this is what I find really interesting,
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is she is explicitly arguing for a Eastern European slash Muslim iteration of femininity.
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Which is very different from the form of femininity, which is traditional with an American culture.
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And this is something I've talked about in other videos, but it is very interesting how
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so many people are now identifying with the conservative movement.
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And they're like, being a woman is being, like, prissy.
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Okay, you're probably going, is this like an Oxima commercial or what?
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But seriously, I actually have a way normal life for a teenage girl.
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I get up, I brush my teeth, and I pick out my school clothes.
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Because what strikes me is when I watched the video on which Short Fat Otaku is commenting,
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I'm not thinking this is a tomboy actually at all.
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I am a tomboy compared to her in my appearance.
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Most people are, because they don't look as gorgeous as she does.
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So, because normally I associate tomboys with...
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It does make me think a lot about different early colonial American cultures as profiled
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in Albion Seed, where the definition of optimal femininity did even range so much based on
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just these small regions of England where different new colonial groups were coming from.
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And the Scots-Irish totally wanted women like that.
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That was the kind of woman she'd slaughter a cow and then she'd feed you tea and you'd be
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freaked out if you came from another background.
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Whereas in the South, if you're coming from the Cavaliers, you were expected to be in the
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But it's just so weird to me because she comes across as so feminine.
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But this is what's really interesting to me, right?
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Is you have moving into conservative circles because you come from a traditional American
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Like your family, one of the traditional outdoors family.
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Yeah, like that women hunt and shoot and go out.
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These new conservatives are so detached and unmoored for traditional American values.
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It's like you've never listened to a country song.
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Like, and I think country music does a good job of capturing traditional American values.
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Speaking of American values, the reason or one of the reasons, while I respect both cultural
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positions, the position to favor prissy girls and the position to favor tomboys in terms of the
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types of girls that you elevate as good catches for sons in your family.
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One of the reasons I err towards the tomboy position is this attitude towards life makes
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them much less focused on the internal politicking and fighting that you have within feminine women
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groups, which leads to them being very petty and mean-spirited, like the woman who's attacking
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her, and instead having a much higher moral character, work ethic, and view of the world,
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which I think is something that you often see from Simone in these videos.
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And you also see from this girl in her response.
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I did at one point, but my account got removed for whatever reason.
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And she even got her Twitter account banned for posting naughty political opinions.
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And I just hadn't got around to making another account.
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But apparently I'm trending on Twitter right now because some girl, hey Merle, some girl
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And I would tell y'all this girl's name, but I can't remember it because I don't have a
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So that should tell you how relevant this person is.
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But I just think it's hilarious because I grew up as the weird kid in high school who
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hunted and fished too much because back then it wasn't cool for women to hunt or fish or
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And I'm so proud of all the women in the outdoors now who are making that more cool or popular.
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But I've been helping dad build houses since I was 15.
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When I was a senior in high school, I taught kids how to wield in ag class.
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When I think of manual labor, I think of what my dad does.
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There's a lot of blue collar women out there who are also feminine.
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And so I just think that you should embrace your own individuality.
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And don't worry about what anybody else said because these folks talking about me and think
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they're going to offend me, that ship sailed a long time ago.
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So don't be scared to build your own box and don't try to fit in anybody else's.
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Be your own person and you'll be happier in the long run because of that.
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And don't worry about what anybody else has to say.
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If you look at the women who are elevated in country songs, they are this tomboy character
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Brunswick, juicy Georgia peach with a thick southern girl, sexy swinging wall, brother,
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Some people look down on me, but I don't give a rip.
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I stand there, put it in my own front yard with a baby on my hip.
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Oh, but I can buy the same damn thing on a Walmart shelf half price.
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I was eating better than a hornet in an old coat.
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They are the woman who is a tough woman, who knows how to hunt, who knows how to get dirty,
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who drinks beer instead of champagne, who kicks it.
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No, it's something that is regularly sung about in country songs.
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And people are like, women in country songs are not like Americana women.
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No, you just judged Americana off of 1980s and 1990s Hollywood, which had no more your
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And you based your identity and what you thought womanhood was in America off of that.
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Instead of understanding what I have always been told growing up in Texas is that some
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people would sometimes be like, oh, you want a woman who's prissy or something like that.
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The standard saying was strong mothers make strong sons.
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And if you marry, and I'm talking genetically and culturally, if you marry a weak woman,
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like if you are specifically sorting for weakness in your wife, then you are going to have
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And this is one of these things is people misunderstand.
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Do you think that she's like the top in her relationships?
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Um, she is looking for a man who she respects, but she is not looking to top a man.
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And this is true of Tom boys generally, because I slept around a lot when I was younger.
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And when I did that, I slept with a lot of Tom boys, because that was my preference in
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Even like after Simone and I started dating, I was like, she had extremely long hair at
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And for a long time, she had short hair and she started to regrow it for a number of reasons.
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But for a long time in a relationship, she had short hair.
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He was like, oh, to target your conservative audience, you're going to need longer hair.
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And Tom girls matter, because you don't want to marry a weak, submissive person.
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You want to marry, basically, if you use yourself, see yourself as a male leader, for example,
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you want to marry the equivalent of a very loyal soldier, but a soldier who fights and
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who goes out there and backs you up on the battlefield.
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You don't want to marry some kind of sniveling bureaucrat, because that's not going to breed
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And when I was sleeping, I don't think I ever met a tomboy who was dominant in bed.
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Also, one thing I will never get over, and I don't know if we should do a whole episode
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In this diary entry, in this one episode, we were reading a diary of when Simone and I met.
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And it ends with you saying, I guess we're entering a dom-sub relationship in which you
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were the sub, but what you meant by that is a relationship where the male was the dominant
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partner, and you as the female were the subordinate partner?
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Yeah, but we live in a culture in which that must be recontextualized as a kink, because otherwise
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It's not acceptable unless it's a kink, Malcolm, all right?
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So I love if you recontextualize a traditional American marriage, you're like, listen, the
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Again, that's the only way to make it socially acceptable.
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If it's just actually a hierarchy, then it's clearly abusive.
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Have you heard of radical monogamy, the phenomenon?
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This is this new phenomenon, and I'll put up some articles about it, where it is people
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basically in social context where the dominant relationship subtype is polyamorous, who have
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intentionally chosen monogamy as a relationship format.
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And it's the new rebellious thing for progressives to try.
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It's the same, I think, to a great extent with tradwifery, is these are many, in many cases,
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especially the ones who are performatively showing it off so much.
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People who came from broadly progressive cultures where women were mostly expected to work and
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They're making it this subversive thing when, in the end, it's just a thing.
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We went to a conference that was supposed to be for, like, music, people who work in the
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Oh, and for those who are just listening, I'm wearing, like, 17th century-inspired stays over
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And at the event, we often get stopped and asked, what religion are we, and stuff like
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Like, people who are religious extremists, which I guess we are.
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But I'm heavily pregnant all the time when she's doing this.
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But we were at this conference for music types.
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And the people who kept complimenting you were these goth and, like, punk girls, because
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Because trad, ultra-trad, is a form of cultural subversion, which they could really appreciate
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and saw as, like, this new, is trad cultural subversion.
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So there's that whole element to this conversation, which I find very fascinating.
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But I also find fascinating the things that are being criticized by the women who are criticizing
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They're like, if your woman was out there building houses, wouldn't you leave her?
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Do these women think their lack of industry and economic productivity is a virtue?
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Yeah, isn't, sorry, isn't build me a house, like, the ultimate version of make me a sandwich?
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I did not expect you to come into this saying that, basically, tomboys were being attacked
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from the political right and the political left.
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But the more you're talking about this, the more I'm like, shit, they totally are.
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Yeah, the right is defining femininity portions of the right, not all the right.
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So it's important to remember that the right has adopted a lot of immigrant populations,
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But we need to remember that Eastern European iterations of femininity and Muslim iterations
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of femininity are not traditional American iterations of femininity.
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These women who are like, oh, here's, I forgot what it was, Persian femininity or something
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That is a traditional Muslim feminine mindset, which is this ultra, like, fragile, doesn't
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have a job, stays at home all day, doesn't interact with their environment.
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That is, was in that cultural group, the iteration of femininity that is most lauded by the elite
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And I should note that I don't even think that this was the dominant strategy of femininity
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It was just that their elites are, don't have a duty to act like mainstream members of society
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in the same way that people of other cultural groups do.
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So the femininity that the elite shahs and stuff had and stuff like that, that they would
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have this ultra fragile porcelain women femininity, which is what she's aspiring to.
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But I don't think that the average person living in these cultures, those women,
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if you went to the rural town in these areas were probably actually pretty tough.
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Here's a theory, though, in terms of that view of femininity, perhaps the porcelain
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woman as a feminine ideal makes sense and could call harem cultures, where the majority
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And then the small number of outlier men get all the women, rule all of society, but then
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the rest are either like these eunuch style male bureaucrats who never pair off and never
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marry, or they're very submissive women who are like, okay, with sharing resources amongst
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Maybe that's what you're seeing reflected here.
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Women don't enter the harem side, but even in harem culture, it's only a minority of women,
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Most are still in these rural family groups where they would likely be working and they
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And when I talk about society, so an interesting thing about these communities is that the
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elites in these societies do not need to act like the everyman.
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But if you look at traditional Americana society, so George Bush is a good example of this.
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And in the left, media used to always make fun of him going to his ranch and cutting brush.
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They were like, why is he cutting brush on the ranch?
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I grew up in a quote unquote elite family in Texas, and I can tell you why he was cutting
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Because within elite families in Texas, you are expected to do manual labor to show that
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you don't think you're above the common man, because that is part of how status is judged,
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the belief that you are not above the common man.
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Yeah, they'd say that you were like effete or acting French or European.
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They'd be like, you're acting French right now or something.
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It's seen as very like, or you're acting like the word that they would have used.
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But like, why do you think you're better than other people?
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Why do you think you don't, you shouldn't be doing manual labor?
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But I, even if the words that they used, do not work, was in modern parlance, I can agree
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and still feel the sentiment that they feel that to be truly elite from my cultural background,
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you need to act like the common man, or you need to engage in some of the things that they're engaging in.
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And you need to be able to, and my family, by the way, was very good.
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So at my grandmother's funeral, he said he wanted to have a race because we were at the after party together.
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And he wanted to race his, like, with one of his elders against one of my elders,
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because they both had wheelchairs, which I absolutely love.
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I know society, back before we realized how controlled the media was by the ultra far lefties,
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I think a lot of people were convinced that he was actually a bad guy.
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He may have had some bad advisors, but he is a genuinely sweet guy.
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But anyway, I think that there is some utility to that.
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And when I think about my own daughters, think about the pressure they're going to feel.
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The right's going to say, you're not womanly enough.
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And the left's going to say, because you're not womanly enough, you're a man.
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Think about what this causes for Tom boys, which used to be 30% of women, 40% of women.
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When they're growing up, I'd say it's at least 20%.
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When we were growing up, girls who participated in boyish hobbies.
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Here's what I think is different about the schools that I went to.
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Yeah, so she was in San Francisco, which would have had a lot more Asian population.
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I certainly had friends that, like, they were not girly girls, but they weren't seen as tomboys.
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This is actually really interesting, and we'll probably do a separate episode on this.
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The character who's clearly the tomboy is Applejack, right?
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And I guess you could argue Rainbow Dash as well.
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But Applejack representing Americana is representing tomboyism.
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And what I say we might do an episode on it is because I think that every character in that...
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Or I might just lay out this theory here because it's interesting.
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Every character on that represents an iteration of the ideal feminine from a different cultural group.
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The sort of personality that an ideal wife would have within different cultural subsets.
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And while Applejack represented the Americana cultural subset, Fluttershy represented the Muslim Eastern European cultural subset of the extreme level of submission.
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Or the, if we're talking Colonial America, the Cavalier subset.
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Sorry, no, it's Twilight Sparkle is the Pilgrim Puritan subset.
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Yeah, the Twilight Sparkle would have been the Pilgrim sort of Calvinist subset, which is different.
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The ones who produced the Applejack and that were the lower class version.
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And then you had the Pinkie Pie, and I've always seen Pinkie Pie as being very clearly Jewish coded.
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Whereas you or our culture, like both of our cultural backgrounds are a melding of the Calvinist and Backwoods people, which would be a melding of the Twilight slash Applejack cultural groups.
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But it's interesting, and I think that that's part of why it caught on with so many guys, is it represented ideals of a femininity that they were not seeing in their world today.
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And without sexualizing it in any way, shape, or form, just creating...
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Because so often when the guys within these online cultures were engaging with femininity, they were engaging it in a sexualized context without just seeing it for the personality tropes that they felt were missing from their lives.
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Who wouldn't want the country girl in their lives these days?
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They used to be like a thing around me all the time, the country girls.
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These rough and tumble country girls who would curse and play in the mud and like to fish and hunt.
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I don't know if they're in this next generation, right?
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I bet they'd be pretty high value in the dating market these days.
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I think that tomboys are going to be just fine over the long run.
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Because they're the ones who weren't castrated.
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I guess it depends on how pervasive all this becomes in mainstream public and private schools.
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You actually, okay, I've seen old pictures of you.
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You were below the standards of most of the girls I slept with.
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And this isn't even just talking about the girls I dated.
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And you were not exactly choosy in your early days either.
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And you can thank your mother for teaching me how to use makeup a little bit.
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...years of insistent campaigning some styling advice.
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A lot of people trying to hop up on my new wave.
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I don't give a fuck because it's Tomboy Tuesday.
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And I bet everyone she knows is gonna doubt that line.
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Because we know she ain't about to dress as the diamonds of PBS's.
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She'd rather shotgun a beer than drink bottles of wine.
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If nigga's scrapping, she'd put everything up on the line.
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Me, no way, she'd slide up in the cut and leave them fossilized.
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Colin, if I tell her slide, she pulling up inside a mech.
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I might have to turn these, yeah, dudes into I-Dude.
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And she bad and like, got a lot of people trying to hop up on my new wave.