This Video Will Get You on an FBI Watchlist + Leakļ¼ Reddit Astroturfed by Feds
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Summary
In this episode, we take a deep dive into the FBI's surveillance of the far-right, including the use of the term "Red Pill" and "Based" in order to label the mainstream right as "extremists" and manipulate events in America to make them look bad.
Transcript
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Hello, Simone! This episode is going to be a chilling episode.
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This is one of those really data-heavy episodes. I'm really going to be bringing receipts here.
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And what we are going to be uncovering is an FBI program to monitor and label mainstream American right as terrorists,
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astroturf, and manipulate big events in America to the extent...
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So just to get started here, if anyone's like, oh, come on, you can't really mean they're this bad, right?
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We, this podcast, is almost certainly on an FBI watch list after the Heritage Foundation forced them through a Freedom of Information request
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to release information on a new terrorist list they were building of, quote-unquote, incels.
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And so words that would get you put on this terrorist list, okay, were red-pilled, based, look-maxing,
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Chad, Stacy, It's Over, Just Be First, Incel, LARPing.
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Listen, I'll save you some gas. I'm just going down to the stationery store, then I'll be right back.
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You don't got to follow me like yesterday, all right?
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And, and you'll go, we're going to go over their twisted definitions of these words.
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Like, they say saying you are based means that you are saying you are racist.
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And here I'll put on screen here, like, Fox News, mainstream news, breaking this, FBI documents associated with internet sling, like, based, and red pill with extremism.
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And we're also going to go into proof that they've been heavily manipulating Reddit to the extent where Reddit might be a pretty dead platform at this point.
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It's just like a room full of FBI agents talking to each other.
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And I know that this isn't the first time when people are like, oh, you wish, like, the FBI was paying an interest to you.
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And it's like, no, we, like, know they are now because of the love, not hate piece that was done on us.
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For a year in our nation, that cost a lot for them to run.
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That was very obviously, and you can go into the episode on this where we go into receipts, that was probably government backed by the UK government.
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Now we're going to go into what the US government.
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So I want to go over some of their definitions here.
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And keep in mind, they have in this document, like, all of these words, like, interspersed with, like, pictures of Hitler's face and, like, Mein Kampf and, like, stuff like that.
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So they say, based refers to someone who has been converted to a racist ideology or as a way of indicating ideological agreement.
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It means that you have a logically and factually informed position that is outside of any mainstream narrative or any mainstream position.
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So if you're, for example, are hanging out with a group of racists, it is based to say something that is non-racist, like, antagonistic to racism.
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I always felt, like, in context, I get the impression that at least the connotation of based is someone who's just unapologetically standing for what they believe.
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Well, yes, but it needs to be against whatever the group that they are in sees as normative.
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So, like, someone who's unapologetically urban monoculture is not going to be seen as based.
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Yeah, generally, anti-urban monoculture is based if you are in a general online environment.
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But if I am at a far-right group, you know, being pro-gay might be based.
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It just depends on the normative culture that you are within.
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Taking the red pill or becoming quote-unquote red-pilled indicates the adoption of a racist, anti-Semitic, or fascist belief.
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The red pill emerged from pickup artist communities.
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And we'll do a different episode on that someday.
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Somebody was paid a salary to put this together and feel it was obviously wrong and cult-like, ideologically and directorinated misinterpretations of reality.
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Our government is deeply infiltrated by the virus.
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And the cuts need to be made severely, even if it means shutting down departments entirely.
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They say Chad is a race-specific term used to describe idealized versions of a male who is successful at gaining sexual or romantic attention from women.
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Incels unsuccessfully compete against Chad's for attention.
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That, like, there's this very politically biased witch hunt taking place.
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Or that they're so bad at understanding the witches they're hunting.
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This is somebody who is ultra, ultra woke, trying to build justification to put the mainstream right wing on a watch list.
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Am I getting the scene right where there's this woman and they're like, she's a witch?
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And I'm like, but you define those things as racist.
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And they're like, well, no, but we said it was.
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And then the guy's like, well, was any part of her a witch?
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This is a little like, well, how can you prove that they are, you know, racist and anti-women?
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Well, when Trump wins, they're going to lock up all the women and send them to breeding pins.
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And all the black people are going to become slaves again.
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And then I look around and I'm like, Trump won?
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If somebody's committing a crime, am I supposed to control what their ethnicity is?
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Some things just never change, I guess, you know?
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Well, no, but we have another episode, which I'm going to try to go live before this, where
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And when I say infiltrated, I don't mean in a nefarious context.
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I just mean people who watch Antifa podcasts and agree with their beliefs.
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And when we talk about what the core of Antifa beliefs are, it is identifying mainstream right-wing
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Americans, or I'd say even the average American now, considering Trump won the popular vote,
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the average American says that it's based in Red Pill, identifying them as morally equivalent
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to Nazis, so that they have a psychological license to do whatever they would do to a
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And this is where, like, the Punch a Nazi movement comes from and everything like that.
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And what I mean by this is you have this within the FBI now, trying to get this identification
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of your mainstream American as being like a Nazi, so that they have the justification to
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treat the mainstream American as if they were a Nazi terrorist.
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Hold on, we're going to keep going through words here, because this just gets me.
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Okay, so, just be first, a phrase used to describe the targeting of minors for sexual advances
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in order to be their first sexual experience before their perceived corruption by society,
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and is quote-unquote justified by some as the only chance incels have to ascend from incel
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Okay, so, for people who don't know what just be first actually means, is it saying that
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women should exercise a degree of moderation in who they're sleeping with, and that the
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Now, interesting, I can say, I don't know if this is, like, realistic for the average person
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I don't know if I want to marry a virgin, like, a virgin guy.
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I married, I started dating you when you were a virgin.
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You were incredibly inexperienced in this category, and so, for you to, and keep in mind,
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yeah, okay, you wouldn't want a virgin guy, but the point of all this is not about guys.
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This is about men choosing women, and I can understand the idea that women could be really
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messed up in this modern dating marketplace in terms of their self-perception, in terms of
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It is not an unreasonable thing to say that, hey, you know what our ancestors said that
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we should argue, have, like, a degree of sexual propriety, that they're like, no, that whoever
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wrote this literally thinks that the only women who would not have sexual experience are minors,
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because they have so normalized sleeping with minors that they can't imagine any woman who
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isn't a minor not having sexual experience. And by the way, when I met Simone, you were 23?
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24. So, not at all a minor, okay? Just a degree of sexual propriety. And I actually started with,
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in my later years, almost as many virgins as I did in my early years.
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And you were sleeping with people roughly your same age.
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Yeah, I, just whatever it is that I bring to the table, disproportionately attracts the type
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of woman who happens to be moderately attractive in a virgin. And people are like, oh, they're lying
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to you. No, I slept with enough people that I can tell the difference. So, to keep going.
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I need to put in, like, the obligatory ew, because, ew.
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Being able to tell. I just really don't like vaginas, so I have to say ew.
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Well, you're a heterosexual woman, Simone. It's not surprising.
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No, a lot, well, yeah, no. I remember from your surveys, vaginas were very...
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Yeah, like, both women and men were like, ew, like...
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Not, not the average man, but, like, a quarter of men, like, way more than you'd think.
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Okay, looks matching. A term used to describe the matching of attractive resembles of both romantic
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partners, which incels see as a solution to the perceived problem of unattractive men having
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no potential partners. How is it a... How does this make someone a terrorist? Looks
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maxing. The process of self-improvement with the intent to be more attractive.
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The nerd. He tried to improve himself. He's a terrorist.
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MGTOW. Of course, they say MGTOW is the acronym for men going their own way, which refers to
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an online community that has overlap with the incel community. Neat. They see this as a word
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that is described by this. Okay, red pill and black pill. So this is, I guess, black pill in
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the context of red pill. So this is a different definition of red pill. I love that they didn't
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even do this document. Well, they have red pill on it twice. They have red pill on one page,
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then red pill, black pill on another page, with a different definition of red pill.
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Maybe this is the not racist version of their definition, because the first definition was so
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off. Well, okay, red pill refers to a belief shared by many online communities that society is
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corrupt, and that the believer is a victim of this corruption. Black pill, which is specific to
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incels, refers to the belief that this corruption can only be changed through massive societal
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restructuring, often including violence. The left says stuff like that all the time.
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Society is corrupt? What are you talking about? Like, okay, let me just change the words here,
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right? You know, BLM refers to the belief shared by many online communities that society is corrupt,
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and that the believer is a victim of this corruption. BLM Ultra refers to a belief that
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the corruption can only be changed through a massive societal restructuring, often including violence.
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They're just describing the mainstream of their own movement. Yeah. They've got Stacey on here,
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but the definition is boring. And then they have all this next to things like White Power and
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Mein Kampf and the Turner Diaries and Siege and the next- Do not- What? Who's- I don't know what any of
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these books- I know Mein Kampf and that's it. Yeah. That's because I keep using it around the house
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as like a joke. You keep using Levenstrom as a joke. Yeah, that made me more Levenstrom and that,
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you know, like, keeping the floors clean is Mein Kampf. But only as a- No one uses that phrase,
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like, or refers to that book online. That's- Anyway, I feel like they needed to keyword stuff it with
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references to the National Socialist Party of Germany and other racist thinkers in an attempt to make it
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seem like this whole set of vocabulary is used together all by the same people.
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I want to- I want to understand this department at the FBI that's doing this. Like, was there an intern
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or a recent college grad? Oh yeah, so they had a big document. It's called Involuntary Celibate Violet Extremism.
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So now we're going to go over something even more horrifying, which is- And this rabbit hole- I showed
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you a first video on this that some other YouTuber had done. It was good. Yeah.
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But like, as I dug deeper, it's worse than what he made it sound like.
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So in 2014, Reddit's year in blog post had to be edited because the town that it included as the
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most addicted to Reddit was Edglin Air Force Base. Here's the problem. It- that indicated that it had
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over a hundred thousand unique visitors to Reddit. The problem is, is that that the portion- the number
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of residents of the Air Force Base was only 2,448. Oops.
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By discrepancy of 97,000 people. But it's worse than that. Edglin Air Force Base, not long before
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this, published a paper titled, Containment Control for a Social Media Net- for- I'm sorry.
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Containment Control for a Social Network with State-Dependent Connectivity, which explores the
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manipulation of social networks and the use of quote unquote social leaders to influence opinions
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and beliefs. The, the hilarious thing here is I decided to then try to dig deeper on any of the
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sources that covered this, right? Cause I was like, okay, is this real? So I would go to the sources
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that had covered this, which were in the Washington blog. Every one of the articles on this had been
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removed. I could find sources like actually, ironically Reddit posts talking about what was
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in archived versions of these sites, but the archived versions have also been removed. So the
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internet archives have been removed of this, at this point, along with every place that it was
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mentioned. The only place that I could find a non-removed reference to stuff like this was in
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the Guardian where they had a fairly watered down discussion of this. Fortunately, we have lots of
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screenshots of these websites before they were removed. So we know they existed and there has
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been no denial of the FBI of this activity or the millions of dollars that was spent doing this.
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Millions? Oh. So if I'm going to go into what the Guardian had to say about this,
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U.S. military admits spending millions to study manipulation of social media, part of a long-term
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effort to spread propaganda through the internet. The activity of users of Twitter and other social
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media services were recorded and analyzed as part of a major project funded by the U.S. military
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in a program that covers ground similar to Facebook controversial experiment into how to control
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emotions by manipulating news feeds. And if you are, and this is from the Guardian, a far lefty thing.
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And I think it's because initially they thought that they were doing this to influence things in a
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right-wing direction. But now we know because of the Facebook leaks and stuff like that, that they were
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doing this in a heavy left-wing direction. The Facebook leak that I'm talking about is a story
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that the FBI knew was true. Facebook was pressured to remove it, which was the Hunter Biden son's
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laptop leak and ban accounts that were reporting accurate news. The FBI colluded to ban accounts
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reporting accurate news in the lead up to an election cycle. That is where things are. And we
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haven't seen any indication of anything like this on the right, which is so funny that the left is
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always like, oh, the right's a threat to democracy, when they're actively attacking democracy.
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I've actually seen a couple of self-aware, but jokes, but kind of not jokes from people on the left
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after looking at the results of this election saying, maybe we did steal the last one, which is, I mean,
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gosh, it's insane. It just, I can't believe that we even saw the results that we did considering
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all of the things that are happening. Like even the hostile nature of the existing government
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toward anyone who leans slightly to the right, which is basically just being a 1990s Democrat,
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by the way. Well, at least in terms of your social beliefs. I mean, I think that a lot has changed,
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but it's very different. I argue that the left today is actually, it's not that the right today is
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what the left is in the 1990s. It's that the left today is what the right was in the 1990s.
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When a lot of people get wrong because they're too focused on social issues and they're just
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fighting for a war that doesn't exist anymore. Like the war to ban gay marriage couldn't win
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any election cycle. Like we're not even like, we don't even slap down rightists when they say this
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stuff because like we're pro gays or gay marriage. We slap it down because it's just so dumb. It appeals to
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such a small portion of the electorate. They're fighting social battles and they see the fact that we're not
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fighting those social battles is making us more like Democrats of the nineties. When the reality is
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the right of the nineties, it's actually very similar to the far left today. They just represent
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a different view, which is to say in the nineties, it was about pushing what the dominant culture in
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our country was on the average American citizen. And now it's about pushing a different dominant
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cultural group on the average citizen. So I see that as sort of a false equivalency there, but I wanted to
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one talk about paying to manipulate results. So I think a lot of people, when they look at this
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and they see how heavily the FBI and the U S military towards an extremist woke agenda is
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manipulating on that line discourse specifically in environments like Reddit, I think they can
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misunderstand the impact that 97 votes or down votes can have to control what's making it to the
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front page within the large subreddits and what comments are making it to the top, et cetera.
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I will say this as somebody who I will not confirm that I've done this, but let's say we may have
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experimented with a manipulating the way things get to the top of Reddit through pay for vote systems.
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It hypothetically could have happened, which gives us an idea of how many votes you actually need
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to create a top post on Reddit. And if you have good content that is gelling with the base of
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Reddit, you really only need to pay for, I'd argue, maybe 2000 votes. The fact that they were looking
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at 90,000 votes, that they basically had a complete control over the past decade of what's been at the
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top of Reddit and what hasn't been at the top of Reddit and likely all other voter-based sites,
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whether that is the EA forums or Y Combinator, or this is why I think for a long time in non-vote-based
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sites like 4chan, you have seen things moving very far to the right from the perspective of
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they're like, oh, the average person isn't that far to the right. Or on X, they're like, oh, the average
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person can't possibly be that far to the right. Now they're realizing, oh, the average person actually
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is that far to the right. This isn't like that it was taken over by extremists. This is what it feels
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like to not be in an echo chamber that's being mediated by the FBI. So Reddit basically hasn't
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existed as a real site in at least the last half decade. That makes so much sense because I remember
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just living on it and then returning to it in our, I don't know, post-kid lives and thinking,
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what happened? Yes, this used to be a place where people had realistic dialogue. In the YouTube video
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that you shared with me where you first heard about this and started diving down the rabbit hole
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after, the guy mentioned, he did a hypothetical experiment where he entered a prompt into ChatGPT
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asking it to create an am I the asshole post. And it made one that was, that looked totally native,
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very natural. And he was like, clearly ChatGPT has used Reddit as training data and can easily be used
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to create fake accounts. Well, this is where it gets worse. Reddit has no way to come back from
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this. Yeah. Because the way the Reddit and the voting-based systems work is if you look at something
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like Twitter, what does Twitter select for? It selects for the things that cause the largest
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emotional reaction. Yes. So that can be a positive or negative reaction. If I want to get a retweet,
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I can get a retweet by creating a negative reaction just as well as a positive reaction.
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Well, perhaps even more effectively by getting a negative reaction. Yeah, what does it mean to be
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ratioed, right? Like, so if the, the, from like an evolutionary perspective, ideas compete on Twitter
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through their ability to engage our emotional subsets. And it's funny that people are like,
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Blue Sky will be different. And I'm like, no, it won't be different because it uses the same system.
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This is why on 4chan, the stuff that comes to the top is the stuff that, the way I'd put it,
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is the most like attention grabbing in the moment because that's how you get people to pay attention
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on 4chan. It is ideas outside of a signaling perspective. It's just whatever is on your mind
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and what you believe to be true while attracting more for things that offend other people to one,
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create engagement and two, act as a filtering mechanism for people who you do not want within
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your environment to make it toxic to those people. We're going to go over Crystal Cafe soon,
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Yeah, you just mentioned this to me. I need to dive into this.
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It's really interesting because they've done the same thing to make it really unpleasant to be a man
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on there. So you wouldn't even want to like role play as a woman.
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Well, you'll see when we go over it. We're going to go over it in the episode where I argue that
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But the problem with all of this is, is in, okay, so what wins within the voter-based environments?
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It is the thing that is the most average of an opinion,
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the most average of an opinion for that particular room. Now on YouTube, what wins?
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On YouTube, what wins, interestingly, is the content
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that is most appealing to people algorithmically like yourself.
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What is the best place to find good content on the internet?
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In community discords, and we'll put a link to our discord here,
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which have a feel of like early internet stuff.
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But YouTube itself is very good for, I think, an average person who wants to know what people like
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themselves are saying. Now, the problem with Reddit and what's going to lead to itself
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destruction is the most average of ideas wins. The most average and safe and guarded of ideas
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while being influenced by organizations like the FBI to be even more average and safe.
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Who is going to win at that game, especially if they were trained on Reddit data?
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AI. AI will almost always be able to out-compete humans on a platform like Reddit,
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especially as AI advances further. The types of stories, because it creates the most average idea.
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And that's what is rewarded on Reddit. And that's why Reddit has no possible future.
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And did you have any thoughts on this before I go further?
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That's sad. RIP Reddit. It had a long time ago. It had a great run and I really enjoyed it.
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There's so many things. I mean, its staff accelerated its demise.
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No, it deserved what was coming to it, but it still makes me sad. Imagine, it's like going to,
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it's driving by your childhood house that your family moved out of and seeing that it
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Yeah. A meth den that's like obviously a bunch of FBI plants. Like, hey, would you like some
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marijuana young man? No, no. The point here being is that if you go to Reddit, the only reason to go
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to Reddit is, do not go to Reddit to get an understanding of what the left thinks. The
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left isn't meaningfully on Reddit anymore. Go to Reddit to get an understanding of what the FBI
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wants you to think. That is the only thing that you are getting from Reddit anymore.
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But to get an understanding of like how far this has gone within other countries that have been
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more infected by the Cordyceps virus or wokeism or the urban monoculture than the United States,
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the British government considers the following as terrorism and believes it has the right to
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investigate and jail people for this. So I'll read the quote from their own report.
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If the disclosure, so thing that's being written or threat of disclosure,
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is designed to influence a government or made for the purpose of promoting a political or ideological
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cause. Anything that can disrupt the status quo is terrorism. Oh boy. The UK is not going to be
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okay if it maintains this general stance and approach to culture slash solving problems.
00:27:21.460
This is not good. Well, they arrested a guy for this. David Miranda case. British high court
00:27:25.660
accepts investigation. Journalists can be tried like terrorists. Um, and I'd point out here that
00:27:33.000
you're like, okay, so it's like the FBI is a problem and maybe like the N.I. say is a problem.
00:27:38.780
Very top security stuff because if people knew how we did it, then everyone would do it.
00:27:43.060
Then our enemies would do it. We can't let our enemies get their hands on this.
00:27:55.660
No, this is spread to every branch of our government independently. This is the way the
00:28:08.380
infection works. So the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States in a request for proposals
00:28:15.180
filed to companies that are feds vendors is requesting the creation of a social listing platform
00:28:21.480
whose function is to gather data from various social media outlets and news sources that
00:28:26.560
will monitor billions of conversations and generate text analytics based on predefined criteria.
00:28:39.620
We need to look at more RFPs. That is, I guess that's something DOS should, well, they're going
00:28:44.800
to, they're going to audit every single contract, but they should also be looking at new requests.
00:28:49.760
That is deeply disturbing. Also, part of me wonders, what if part of the objective of this
00:28:58.620
manipulation was to kill Reddit? Reddit being seen as a place where people were radicalized and
00:29:07.840
It definitely wasn't. They had no, no. They see Reddit as a, as a platform completely under
00:29:12.180
their control. They love Reddit. Reddit's the best.
00:29:19.380
Yeah. Even the FBI now is worried about things like Facebook. Now that Mark Zuckerberg has been
00:29:24.100
like, he was the one who leaked, Mark Zuckerberg is the one who leaked that the Hunter Biden laptop
00:29:28.400
story was suppressed. That, that, that came from the Zuck. The Zuck, he may have taken a while to come
00:29:34.780
around, but I think he's in the process of coming around. And I do not think that the FBI trusts him
00:29:43.120
He's in his new era. Okay. Yeah. So I don't, I don't, I don't think of all the platforms,
00:29:47.960
they've got Blue Sky, they've got Reddit, they've got like, what? Like the, the, the Tumblr
00:29:56.060
Is Mastodon still a thing or not? I think there's a lot of-
00:30:02.720
I think Discord just is everything that Mastodon was proposing to be and so much better. So
00:30:12.320
Yeah. Discord feels like the early internet, by the way, for people who weren't around in
00:30:16.660
the early internet. And if you want to join our Discord, you can find a link. It's great.
00:30:21.280
I find it a really fun place to hang out online, pretty high quality conversations. I'd also note
00:30:26.260
here that if you feel like the internet is dying, because like when I go to Google now, it feels
00:30:30.260
like an increasing amount of the internet just isn't real. Like I feel like as the astroturfing
00:30:35.300
has break, as the brain rot of the people doing the astroturfing has increased, as the
00:30:40.760
cordyceps fungus has eaten of the urban monoculture has eaten more and more of their brains and their
00:30:45.640
only job is self-replication of the virus, they no longer think in full thoughts. As I
00:30:50.120
mentioned recently, I got in an argument with somebody that just broke down into simple
00:30:53.500
phonetic loops, like break the cycle, like be better. Don't, you know, like, I was like,
00:30:59.120
what? This isn't an argument. It's like in Rick and Morty when the simulation is breaking
00:31:12.600
That's what it felt like in real life. And I was trying to talk to like an average citizen
00:31:15.900
on the street. And I was like, oh my God, like these people are so brain rotted by the
00:31:20.220
internet that they lack the capacity for genuine independent thought anymore. And they're running
00:31:25.400
on a collection of phonetic loops. And I think what happened is as the bug men have become more
00:31:33.320
and more infected to the extent that they can't have rational thoughts anymore, these environments
00:31:36.920
that they were curating and astroturfing are breaking down. And we're beginning to realize there
00:31:42.040
was never anyone there. That most of the internet has been an astroturf job. That dead internet theory
00:31:48.180
was not wrong. The internet has been dead for a while now. It is just becoming clear at this point.
00:31:56.520
And that the only real conversations you can have anymore are places like discord, which is pre-sorting
00:32:03.060
for people who are following specific, like based or otherwise filtering individuals on YouTube and
00:32:07.720
stuff like that. Or, and to give you an idea of how bad this is in 2006, four years after a website
00:32:13.980
was created, there was a 40% chance it would still be around. In 2015, five years after, sorry, four
00:32:20.440
years after a website was created, only 3% of them were still around. It went from in less than 10
00:32:25.880
years, 40% sticking around to 3% sticking around. Wow. Okay. Things are changing. Yeah. I came into this
00:32:38.160
or before you shared this with me, I thought, well, we're heading into this crisis now where soon no one
00:32:45.880
will know where to go online because everything's going to be generated by AI. But now I realized that for
00:32:51.820
the past five to seven years, it has already been largely fake content that we've been seeing
00:32:58.700
this whole time, the call was coming from inside the house. It was already.
00:33:06.540
I wouldn't mailing the hashtag dismantle the FBI. I don't know if we need it anymore. I mean,
00:33:12.640
if they're not doing anything. Remember when the, we, we experienced someone stole a very non-trivial
00:33:20.780
amount of money from our business. We had their name, we had their address, we had their banking info
00:33:24.900
and we were told by our bank to send it to the FBI. And we never heard from anyone. We tried
00:33:34.320
all the channels we could, nobody got back to us. And I'm like, oh, so are they understaffed? Is
00:33:41.720
there some kind of disaster? Like, why aren't they helping us? This, this is, it should be open and
00:33:46.780
shut. They have this person's address, their bank account. Like this isn't. Like it wasn't.
00:33:51.620
People understand this person stole money from us. Very obviously the bank said, yeah, this is stolen
00:33:58.400
money. And we had the account that the money was wired to. And the name and their address. Like
00:34:02.980
we had all of their information and they said, submit it to the FBI. But I guess they were a little
00:34:10.420
too busy posting on Reddit. They were a little too busy watching our show to like track, to see how
00:34:16.000
we're breaking the rules. They're like, hmm, we have to find those incels. They're the real threat.
00:34:21.100
The, the incels who are spending money online, at least subsidizing the lives of a huge number of
00:34:28.620
women through OnlyFans. I, you know, like they're, they're doing their part to, to prop up the economy.
00:34:35.280
Meanwhile, someone is stealing a huge amounts of money from us. So no one's, no one's answering the phone.
00:34:43.460
I feel like, you know, Trumpism is a fight back against this and maybe they can do some remediation,
00:34:51.900
but we really are in a scenario where things are circling the drain at this point. The rot of the
00:34:58.160
urban monoculture has gotten so extreme and so. Delete. I think, you know, throwing the folder in
00:35:04.500
the wastebasket, letting it go. Well, and I also think that some people don't, and this is something
00:35:11.080
always is, is interesting to me. The people who like, know that they're the enemies of the urban
00:35:16.540
monoculture, but like, they don't believe how bad it's gotten. Well, I certainly don't. And now I
00:35:23.780
realize that you and I are probably on an FBI watch list. A terrorist watch list, by the way. Oh, great.
00:35:32.080
Yeah. Um, I told you that basically we, and of course anyone these days, honestly should assume
00:35:37.840
that every smart device in their home is being used to actively monitor everything they say that
00:35:43.460
it, the, the big revelation with Edward Snowden, that everyone might be listening or sort of at least
00:35:49.040
recording your calls and you should be careful about any keywords used that might get you put on
00:35:53.780
some kind of list really did extend more to any device or anything that you typed into or spoke
00:35:59.900
around. Um, so I don't know, like fine, but also I'm sorry. I guess it's great that AI exists because
00:36:08.280
I would feel bad for any professional who would be forced to actually listen into conversations. And
00:36:12.820
now at least AI is being used to just summarize everything, but yeah. Well, it's interesting as
00:36:19.220
well, but I love the Dems are like, how did we lose the working class? And it's like,
00:36:24.040
you've got to understand the democratic party right now is the party of the corpos. It's the party that
00:36:30.200
says your average citizen who is saying based, uh, or in cell, or who is having trouble dating as a man
00:36:36.940
or saying that there are systemically unfair dating environments for men these days. These are the
00:36:41.720
people who should be on terrorist watch list. The people who are disrupting the oligarchs control of our
00:36:47.580
society right now. And the oligarchs are all in the urban monoculture. You cannot be a party of the
00:36:53.420
working class and be a party for gender transition of minors. These two things are completely inconsistent
00:37:01.400
because your, your rot and your virus ignored the working class because they couldn't extract
00:37:07.020
money from them. It didn't care about them. So when you go to their towns and you say this shit,
00:37:12.840
they're like, Whoa, you are, you are a monster, sir. You are a high grade monster and I want you away
00:37:21.220
from my children. Yeah. Well, the, the other thing that disturbs me is that, okay. A lot of people on
00:37:28.740
the left are, for example, saying I'm very disturbed. You know, what, what if, if all these government
00:37:33.680
organizations are going to be shut down, who's going to be running quality control on my food,
00:37:38.280
who's going to be managing these essential services that they assume right now. And that's the thing
00:37:44.200
is, is I think really at this point, people think that the government is doing a lot more than it is
00:37:51.640
actually doing. The government stopped doing those things a long time ago. And you have a false sense
00:37:58.000
of security that they're being done just because there is a massive amount of spending being done
00:38:02.260
on it. You don't realize that that spending is going to bureaucratic waste and to pensions and to
00:38:07.660
debts and not to a bunch of activity that you assumed was being done. And I think a big crisis
00:38:14.160
that you and I have had in adulthood in general is assuming that because something's being paid for,
00:38:19.020
it's being handled. That's not true. And the Biden administration, and we go over this on our video
00:38:26.500
on the inflation stuff and the Biden administration that it it's like, Oh, look, we're doing so well in
00:38:31.300
jobs, all of its job creation. It shrunk in terms of real jobs. All of its job creation was just in
00:38:36.780
the government sector or things downstream of the government sector, like health care. Like
00:38:40.460
it just pumped more money out. It just printed more dollars. Yeah. Yeah. I think the new paradigm
00:38:47.320
should be all things are paid for as they are received. So when you complete the service,
00:38:55.280
you get paid. When you deliver the product, you get paid and, and no one should be paid until
00:39:01.920
very concrete goals and progress is made. This concept of salaries or budgets in general,
00:39:10.480
I think has become bankrupt and it could, we have the ability now, for example, with AI
00:39:18.080
to actively monitor achievements well enough to pay people as we're going along. I think that
00:39:23.680
salaries had a reason to exist and budgets had a reason to exist in the past because it was just
00:39:28.760
impractical to pay things like to pay people for achievements as they went along. It would be just
00:39:33.820
too much of micromanaging work. Now we literally have the technology to just pay for things as they
00:39:38.720
get done because the AI can just check milestones and be like, okay, yeah, release the funds.
00:39:44.680
We can't keep doing this. So I think what's happened is we've reached this period of quiet,
00:39:50.720
quitting, lying flat, et cetera, where organizations and people have generally realized the mods are
00:39:59.160
asleep. No one is paying attention. I can just stop working. And guess what? No one even really
00:40:04.980
knows what I'm supposed to do anyway. You look at the unsolved crime rate. We had an episode on this
00:40:08.240
where it's like doubled in every major area just in the past like eight years. Like the, the world
00:40:13.860
has quiet quit. Yes. The world has quit quietly and nobody realizes it. And we just think everything's
00:40:21.440
being done and it's not being done. And I'm so scared. And intellectually quiet quit as well.
00:40:26.380
I think that this is another thing that really needs to be hammered on, which is to say that
00:40:30.640
a lot of individuals, when I look at the internet today, when I look at the ideas that are being
00:40:36.520
shared there, it feels very frost punky to me. Like there's this one little community.
00:40:41.020
Well, doesn't that make you feel good? You love frost punk.
00:40:43.920
Yeah, it does make you feel good. Like us are the people connected to us that are still like
00:40:47.420
intellectually alive. And the rest of the internet, like in Shugachara, like they are,
00:40:54.820
they're, they're, they're, they're remnants and they've mostly been erased from reality. They,
00:40:58.700
they have no fire to them, no light to them. There's nothing there. There's no new ideas.
00:41:03.920
It's just that they're repeating one old idea or another old idea. Yeah. It might be
00:41:08.780
just trying to aesthetically LARP some old religion or they might be, which is really just repeating
00:41:14.660
ideas, repeating ideas, repeating ideas, or they might be urban monoculture, repeating ideas,
00:41:18.380
repeating ideas. And the intellectually alive players is such a small community that then
00:41:23.520
has a community of listeners like gathered around it, like around the central generator and
00:41:28.600
outside of this little part of the internet, it's nothing but cold and ice. And it's horrifying.
00:41:35.520
I mean, there's a few little, like, I guess, tire fires here or there, but other than that,
00:41:41.140
it's mostly a wasteland. Well, thank goodness for the tire fires, I guess.
00:41:47.600
Interesting times. Very interesting times. I'm disturbed, but yeah. Hopefully, I just really hope
00:41:59.200
that once the new administration starts working after January 20th, that we actually carve out and
00:42:08.340
start fresh. We have to, because one, we can't afford everything that is being paid for now. And
00:42:16.000
two, we're not getting things from it. And even like I told you last night, there were six gunshots
00:42:21.520
outside our house. I checked with our neighbors. Both of them had, well, I mean, all three, well,
00:42:27.740
all four had heard, all of them had the gunshots, except for you, because you were asleep, because
00:42:32.440
you wake up at 2 a.m. And no one bothered calling the police or checking, like, trying to see what was
00:42:39.200
going on. Because there's this now, there's this assumption that no one's going to do anything. So why
00:42:45.100
bother? And I feel like we've also reached this unspoken collective conclusion that we can't
00:42:51.820
depend on much of the government anymore. Well, that's not to say, like, the police here that we
00:42:57.120
have interacted with. We've got another AR-15 for the family, for my room. You're like, hey, any good
00:43:01.700
Cyber Monday for AR-15? We've been planning on, it was on our Black Friday list since August or
00:43:08.400
something for a long time. I mean, how many do you want ultimately for the house? I don't know. Get
00:43:14.180
one with every kid, one for every kid. Well, then we need a few more. Oh, then keep checking for
00:43:19.980
more sales. They're not inexpensive, but. They're worth it. They're worth it for a collapse scenario.
00:43:26.740
We just need to make sure we have the bullets. Yeah, we need to, we need to get, well, that would
00:43:30.600
be another good Cyber Monday sale thing to look at. Oh, let's check for the bullets to make sure we have
00:43:35.120
them. But anyway, I, it, I think that society has collectively realized this, but it's one of those
00:43:43.040
things that we don't want to admit to ourselves. So we don't talk about it a lot. And I think that's
00:43:49.160
one of those signs that we're in the middle of the collapse. It's that period where you're at the top
00:43:54.800
of the roller coaster, but half the cart is hanging off the dip and the other half is still back. No,
00:44:00.720
but like half of it, it's already sitting at the top and like the momentum is going to start building,
00:44:04.880
but it's already, it's already there. And. Oh, I don't know. It's not going to be, it's not road
00:44:14.460
warrior, like you say, but I do think that there are some things that I really worry about. And it's
00:44:20.460
so lumpy because while none of us decided to call the police after hearing gunshots, right outside our
00:44:27.460
house, we also see the police outside our house, at least a couple of nights a week, because the,
00:44:33.700
they like just set up a speed trap right in front of our house to pull people over.
00:44:37.400
No, they can fuck with you. Of course they'll do that. They can make money off of you.
00:44:39.980
Like they're there. Like, you know that they're there. That's what's odd. Well,
00:44:43.380
and I mean, every interaction we've had with them. No, you know the money they take from,
00:44:46.680
from like speeding tickets, those go to their departments. The money, they don't make money
00:44:51.980
by catching a random. It's basically fundraising. Yeah. But I like that they're fundraising around
00:44:55.620
our house because people drive too fast. Still. It's, I don't know. It's weird because
00:45:00.760
the government is there and the government will help. Like, and also like the number that the,
00:45:05.080
the ratio of professionals to our kid who's going through kindergarten now, cause he asked to
00:45:10.060
is insane. I'm like, wow. I mean, there's, they're all like bitter and terrible. Like we had a zoom
00:45:14.840
call where like to check in on his progress and they were like five people on it. I'm like, how
00:45:19.580
because it's all administrators. These aren't people who are with the kid.
00:45:23.160
But I mean, what I'm saying is like, there's this lumpiness where like, if you go to certain
00:45:28.720
parts of the U S government, you'll be surrounded by people. There will be money everywhere. It's
00:45:33.280
like falling out of the walls. And then you go to like, you try to call the FBI cause money was
00:45:38.120
stolen from you or you're afraid because you know, there were gunshots outside your house and it's
00:45:42.340
crickets. This administration explosions. If you look at graphs of spending in the education space,
00:45:47.420
you see it's, it's equal on teachers. It's equal like for the past 20 years. Yeah.
00:45:51.080
Uh, but administration has exploded. Yeah. Spending on students has not changed.
00:45:55.520
But this is the same with the FBI. This is the same with police forces. This is the same
00:45:59.400
administration needs to be cut to nothing across the board.
00:46:03.360
Well, and it can be without a change in quality, given where we are with technology. Now the
00:46:07.740
administrative systems that exist in most government and sort of legacy civic offices now
00:46:14.320
are from a time, honestly, a pre-internet time, most of the systems and the way things are run
00:46:20.080
and the processes that were like the standard operating procedures are from a pre-internet
00:46:24.320
era. We can clear out so much waste and so much spending and maintain, if not improve quality,
00:46:34.000
just because of where we are with technology and AI. So we're not saying that these things are bad.
00:46:38.560
And I think that's a big misconception when people are looking at this idea of eliminating and hollowing
00:46:45.120
out government. It's not about taking away the services. It's about restoring them because
00:46:51.680
they aren't there right now. Anyway, I think that's the bigger thread for me is it's not just that the
00:46:56.640
internet isn't there anymore. It's not just that Reddit is fake. It's that so many government services
00:47:03.760
are fake, at least in the United States. Yep. Well, I love you, Simone. We should get to the next video.
00:47:10.320
I love you too. At least we can be warmed by our love for each other.
00:47:14.720
We are in the circle of love, whether it's our fans or our family. We are weathering this,
00:47:22.880
I would almost say, easily. All right. Love you to death, Simone.
00:47:26.800
I love you too. Gorgeous. Warmer clothes because it is obviously very cold in here,
00:47:33.760
as it should be. By the way, did you see the latest
00:47:36.480
thing I sent you on WhatsApp? I actually almost burst out laughing the moment I read this.
00:47:40.960
No. Okay. Hold on. What did you send me? It says in the telegraph,
00:47:45.120
keep brain dead women alive and use them as surrogate mothers, suggest doctors. Medical Association
00:47:51.040
apologizes after academic argued it could become common, a common way to bring new children into the
00:47:56.640
world. I was like, you know, there's that, how is it going meme? And then that bad, huh? I feel like
00:48:02.960
urban monoculture, how is pronatalism? How is fixing it without fixing the culture treating you?
00:48:08.080
Oh, that bad, huh? It's yeah. And I just finished Hannah's children, by the way, that,
00:48:15.280
that pronatalist book, she ends with pronatalist policy recommendations. And it's the best that I've
00:48:22.800
ever read of any write up. It's just focus on the families that are having five plus kids.
00:48:31.200
And the best way to do that is to empower religious communities to provide their own services and
00:48:36.400
amenities and, and empower people to give their kids religious education. That's it. Which,
00:48:44.000
which is this whole time, like, and that's what is effective. And it's not, she made it so clear,
00:48:50.640
so articulately and so eloquently that there is no amount of money you can pay a woman to completely
00:48:56.640
change their lives and make it about kids. Like the, the, the sacrifice that you give up,
00:49:00.800
the lifestyle change you're making, no one who's materialistic is going to be motivated by some
00:49:06.880
materialistic incentive to do that. Like you can't use materialism to incentivize people to become
00:49:14.160
Well, and I think that this is fundamentally what people misunderstand about this
00:49:19.440
is they'll be like, yes, but I don't have enough money to do basic things if I have kids.
00:49:25.440
And then I point out, are there people who make half as much money as you? Because when people
00:49:29.120
saying this to me, they're typically people making like, let's say a hundred K a year or like way more.
00:49:36.320
No, no, no. But I'm just saying this is the crowds that I often hear this is people earning like
00:49:41.840
50 K a year, like median us salaries. Right. And I point out, I'm like, you know, that like
00:49:47.200
a good chunk of the American population has a lot of kids and makes a lot less money than you,
00:49:52.560
like half what you make. So clearly there is a way to make it work. You just aren't considering it.
00:49:59.360
You are not considering cutting back your lifestyle as an option.
00:50:03.280
Yeah. And another interesting thing that she said at one point near the end of the book or noted,
00:50:07.920
I think this was from other mothers interviews that she did with them, that you don't really
00:50:13.360
experience the death. You don't burn away the selfishness. That was the wording one mother used
00:50:18.880
until after two kids. And after that point, I agree. You're not really a parent until after two kids.
00:50:24.240
Yeah. But there's something like you literally undergo a form of ego death once you reach a certain
00:50:30.400
number of biologically. And I would say that the change in me as a parent was bigger from
00:50:38.080
two to three kids than from zero to one kid. Yeah. Yeah. But you'd agree with that, right?
00:50:43.920
That it was a bigger shift to go from two to three and sort of biologically how you relate to reality,
00:50:49.760
everything like that. Yeah. Well, I think you reach a tipping point where once you start to become
00:50:54.560
outnumbered by your kids, it's just mentally so much harder to keep prioritizing your own emotions
00:51:03.200
and needs over theirs. They just crowd out the space. There's no space for it. There's no space
00:51:08.160
for your anxiety and your pettiness and your dumb ideas. And it becomes your kids. And I love that.
00:51:15.680
You have the affordance to make the selfish decisions, which are the cause of a lot of
00:51:20.240
our suffering in our modern society. But I love this metaphor of burning away the selfishness.
00:51:24.800
It's great. All right. I'm gonna get started here.
00:51:29.600
Octavian, what are you opening up? The hot lava box.
00:51:59.040
Oh, you want to see what's in the box? What do you think is in the box?
00:52:07.680
Well, I don't think we bought hot lava for the house. I think that'd be pretty dangerous.
00:52:11.200
Yeah. Remember, Octavian, we've been discussing how there seems to be a hot lava
00:52:14.480
problem in the house because you keep saying everything is lava.
00:52:20.480
So we got you a bridge to go over the lava, silly goose.