Based Camp - This Video Will Get You on an FBI Watchlist + Leak： Reddit Astroturfed by Feds

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone! This episode is going to be a chilling episode.

00:00:04.760 This is one of those really data-heavy episodes. I'm really going to be bringing receipts here.

00:00:09.000 And what we are going to be uncovering is an FBI program to monitor and label mainstream American right as terrorists,

00:00:21.060 astroturf, and manipulate big events in America to the extent...

00:00:26.420 So just to get started here, if anyone's like, oh, come on, you can't really mean they're this bad, right?

00:00:33.520 We, this podcast, is almost certainly on an FBI watch list after the Heritage Foundation forced them through a Freedom of Information request

00:00:41.120 to release information on a new terrorist list they were building of, quote-unquote, incels.

00:00:48.660 And so words that would get you put on this terrorist list, okay, were red-pilled, based, look-maxing,

00:00:58.620 Chad, Stacy, It's Over, Just Be First, Incel, LARPing.

00:01:07.240 LARPing! LARPing! 1.00

00:01:10.140 Because you know them all, right?

00:01:11.560 It is so on this list.

00:01:13.620 Oh my...

00:01:14.200 Listen, I'll save you some gas. I'm just going down to the stationery store, then I'll be right back.

00:01:20.520 You don't got to follow me like yesterday, all right?

00:01:25.880 So on this list.

00:01:27.520 And, and you'll go, we're going to go over their twisted definitions of these words.

00:01:32.280 Like, they say saying you are based means that you are saying you are racist.

00:01:36.200 And here I'll put on screen here, like, Fox News, mainstream news, breaking this, FBI documents associated with internet sling, like, based, and red pill with extremism.

00:01:45.480 And we're also going to go into proof that they've been heavily manipulating Reddit to the extent where Reddit might be a pretty dead platform at this point.

00:01:54.400 And people just don't realize it.

00:01:56.280 It's just like a room full of FBI agents talking to each other.

00:01:59.060 And I know that this isn't the first time when people are like, oh, you wish, like, the FBI was paying an interest to you.

00:02:06.620 And it's like, no, we, like, know they are now because of the love, not hate piece that was done on us.

00:02:11.000 Hope, not hate.

00:02:12.520 For a year in our nation, that cost a lot for them to run.

00:02:16.860 That was very obviously, and you can go into the episode on this where we go into receipts, that was probably government backed by the UK government.

00:02:23.660 Now we're going to go into what the US government.

00:02:25.580 So I want to go over some of their definitions here.

00:02:28.060 From their document.

00:02:29.400 And keep in mind, they have in this document, like, all of these words, like, interspersed with, like, pictures of Hitler's face and, like, Mein Kampf and, like, stuff like that.

00:02:36.980 Like, really hateful stuff.

00:02:38.880 Oh my gosh.

00:02:40.740 So they say, based refers to someone who has been converted to a racist ideology or as a way of indicating ideological agreement.

00:02:52.540 Okay.

00:02:53.680 It literally means the exact opposite.

00:02:56.020 It means that you have a logically and factually informed position that is outside of any mainstream narrative or any mainstream position.

00:03:05.260 So if you're, for example, are hanging out with a group of racists, it is based to say something that is non-racist, like, antagonistic to racism.

00:03:13.820 I always felt, like, in context, I get the impression that at least the connotation of based is someone who's just unapologetically standing for what they believe.

00:03:24.320 They're just comfortable in it.

00:03:25.640 Is that not it?

00:03:26.140 Well, yes, but it needs to be against whatever the group that they are in sees as normative.

00:03:32.140 Oh, yeah.

00:03:32.460 So, like, someone who's unapologetically urban monoculture is not going to be seen as based.

00:03:36.540 Yeah, generally, anti-urban monoculture is based if you are in a general online environment.

00:03:41.980 But if I am at a far-right group, you know, being pro-gay might be based.

00:03:47.620 It just depends on the normative culture that you are within.

00:03:51.520 Yeah.

00:03:52.600 Here's what they define red pill as, Simone.

00:03:55.920 Okay.

00:03:57.240 Taking the red pill or becoming quote-unquote red-pilled indicates the adoption of a racist, anti-Semitic, or fascist belief.

00:04:05.160 Wait.

00:04:07.880 The red pill emerged from pickup artist communities.

00:04:11.700 This is about women and being like... 1.00

00:04:14.120 But I point out here that this is...

00:04:17.500 And we'll do a different episode on that someday.

00:04:19.120 This is what our tax dollars are paying for.

00:04:23.460 Somebody was paid a salary to put this together and feel it was obviously wrong and cult-like, ideologically and directorinated misinterpretations of reality.

00:04:37.640 Wow.

00:04:38.200 Our government is deeply infiltrated by the virus.

00:04:41.500 And the cuts need to be made severely, even if it means shutting down departments entirely.

00:04:46.480 Yeah.

00:04:47.680 Wow.

00:04:47.940 Okay.

00:04:48.400 Here's what they said Chad means.

00:04:50.900 Okay.

00:04:51.760 They say Chad is a race-specific term used to describe idealized versions of a male who is successful at gaining sexual or romantic attention from women.

00:05:02.600 Incels unsuccessfully compete against Chad's for attention.

00:05:05.880 They don't compete.

00:05:08.840 Wow.

00:05:09.760 Race?

00:05:10.120 Where?

00:05:11.440 Who is being paid to do this?

00:05:13.620 They should not be paid to...

00:05:14.840 They're not doing a good job.

00:05:16.100 I mean, like...

00:05:17.100 I don't know what's more insulting.

00:05:19.520 That, like, there's this very politically biased witch hunt taking place.

00:05:23.680 Or that they're so bad at understanding the witches they're hunting.

00:05:28.840 No, they're not...

00:05:30.180 Okay, so they're not trying to.

00:05:31.760 They are...

00:05:32.360 This is somebody who is ultra, ultra woke, trying to build justification to put the mainstream right wing on a watch list.

00:05:42.820 You know, was this from the life of Brian?

00:05:45.260 Am I getting the scene right where there's this woman and they're like, she's a witch? 0.81

00:05:49.540 We have found the witch. 0.99

00:05:50.680 May we burn her? 1.00

00:05:51.620 Burn her! 1.00

00:05:53.100 Not a witch. 1.00

00:05:54.040 I'm not a witch.

00:05:55.440 But you are dressed as one. 0.98

00:05:57.380 They dress me up like this.

00:05:58.800 They're like, well, she has a nose. 0.91

00:06:00.580 It's long.

00:06:01.600 And they're like, you put that on her.

00:06:02.860 Nose on me.

00:06:04.180 Will?

00:06:05.240 Well, we did do the nose.

00:06:07.120 The nose and the hat. 0.99

00:06:09.380 But she is a witch. 1.00

00:06:10.440 Yeah! 0.92

00:06:10.940 Yeah, I feel like that's it.

00:06:12.240 They're like, well, but they're racist.

00:06:14.300 And then, you know, like...

00:06:16.300 And I'm like, wait, why am I racist?

00:06:18.720 And they go, because you said Chad.

00:06:20.240 Because you said you're red-pilled.

00:06:21.760 And I'm like, but you define those things as racist.

00:06:24.000 Yeah, but that's not racist.

00:06:25.980 And they're like, well, no, but we said it was.

00:06:28.340 They put it on me.

00:06:29.600 I'm dressed up like this.

00:06:31.040 No!

00:06:31.480 No!

00:06:31.800 No!

00:06:32.060 No!

00:06:32.320 No!

00:06:33.360 Yes!

00:06:33.880 Yes!

00:06:34.720 A bit!

00:06:35.420 A bit!

00:06:35.660 A bit!

00:06:36.020 A bit!

00:06:36.320 And then the guy's like, well, was any part of her a witch?

00:06:40.240 They go, well, she did turn me into a newt. 1.00

00:06:42.700 And he goes, I got better.

00:06:44.600 What makes you think she is a witch? 0.98

00:06:46.880 Well, she turned me into a newt. 0.99

00:06:49.880 I got better.

00:06:50.920 This is a little like, well, how can you prove that they are, you know, racist and anti-women? 0.88

00:06:55.780 Well, when Trump wins, they're going to lock up all the women and send them to breeding pins. 1.00

00:07:00.020 And all the black people are going to become slaves again. 1.00

00:07:02.020 And then I look around and I'm like, Trump won? 0.98

00:07:04.640 Is any of that happening?

00:07:06.120 And they're like, well, it got better.

00:07:07.900 A peacemaker?

00:07:09.000 Yes! 1.00

00:07:09.520 You're that racist superhero! 0.98

00:07:11.400 No! 1.00

00:07:11.820 You only kill minorities, man! 1.00

00:07:13.480 I killed a fair amount of white people, too. 1.00

00:07:15.700 The ratio is suspect is all I have to say. 0.93

00:07:17.600 If somebody's committing a crime, am I supposed to control what their ethnicity is?

00:07:21.720 Some things just never change, I guess, you know?

00:07:23.980 Well, no, but we have another episode, which I'm going to try to go live before this, where

00:07:27.620 we talk about, it's been documented now.

00:07:30.460 Antifa has infiltrated the Secret Service.

00:07:32.640 They've definitely infiltrated the FBI.

00:07:35.460 And when I say infiltrated, I don't mean in a nefarious context.

00:07:38.260 I just mean people who watch Antifa podcasts and agree with their beliefs.

00:07:43.320 And when we talk about what the core of Antifa beliefs are, it is identifying mainstream right-wing

00:07:50.060 Americans, or I'd say even the average American now, considering Trump won the popular vote,

00:07:55.520 the average American says that it's based in Red Pill, identifying them as morally equivalent

00:08:01.040 to Nazis, so that they have a psychological license to do whatever they would do to a 0.75

00:08:06.120 Nazi, to an average American.

00:08:08.620 And this is where, like, the Punch a Nazi movement comes from and everything like that. 0.88

00:08:11.940 And what I mean by this is you have this within the FBI now, trying to get this identification

00:08:17.380 of your mainstream American as being like a Nazi, so that they have the justification to 0.85

00:08:24.460 treat the mainstream American as if they were a Nazi terrorist.

00:08:28.060 Hold on, we're going to keep going through words here, because this just gets me.

00:08:31.840 Okay, so, just be first, a phrase used to describe the targeting of minors for sexual advances

00:08:38.400 in order to be their first sexual experience before their perceived corruption by society,

00:08:43.900 and is quote-unquote justified by some as the only chance incels have to ascend from incel

00:08:49.560 status.

00:08:50.160 To ascend, oh!

00:08:51.880 Okay, so, for people who don't know what just be first actually means, is it saying that

00:08:56.640 women should exercise a degree of moderation in who they're sleeping with, and that the 1.00

00:09:02.820 ideal marriage should be between two virgins. 1.00

00:09:06.700 Now, interesting, I can say, I don't know if this is, like, realistic for the average person

00:09:13.080 to aspire to, but-

00:09:14.860 Also, this is weird.

00:09:16.640 I don't know if I want to marry a virgin, like, a virgin guy.

00:09:20.000 I married, I started dating you when you were a virgin.

00:09:24.020 I started, you'd only kissed one other person.

00:09:26.640 You were incredibly inexperienced in this category, and so, for you to, and keep in mind,

00:09:31.840 yeah, okay, you wouldn't want a virgin guy, but the point of all this is not about guys.

00:09:36.140 This is about men choosing women, and I can understand the idea that women could be really

00:09:40.220 messed up in this modern dating marketplace in terms of their self-perception, in terms of

00:09:44.300 what they expect from a relationship.

00:09:45.600 It is not an unreasonable thing to say that, hey, you know what our ancestors said that

00:09:50.740 we should argue, have, like, a degree of sexual propriety, that they're like, no, that whoever

00:09:57.320 wrote this literally thinks that the only women who would not have sexual experience are minors,

00:10:04.820 because they have so normalized sleeping with minors that they can't imagine any woman who 0.88

00:10:10.140 isn't a minor not having sexual experience. And by the way, when I met Simone, you were 23?

00:10:16.660 24.

00:10:17.500 24. So, not at all a minor, okay? Just a degree of sexual propriety. And I actually started with,

00:10:23.940 in my later years, almost as many virgins as I did in my early years.

00:10:28.080 And you were sleeping with people roughly your same age.

00:10:30.960 Yeah, I, just whatever it is that I bring to the table, disproportionately attracts the type

00:10:37.360 of woman who happens to be moderately attractive in a virgin. And people are like, oh, they're lying

00:10:43.220 to you. No, I slept with enough people that I can tell the difference. So, to keep going.

00:10:47.160 I need to put in, like, the obligatory ew, because, ew.

00:10:51.540 What, ew about what?

00:10:53.220 Being able to tell. I just really don't like vaginas, so I have to say ew. 1.00

00:10:58.880 Well, you're a heterosexual woman, Simone. It's not surprising. 0.99

00:11:02.020 No, a lot, well, yeah, no. I remember from your surveys, vaginas were very... 1.00

00:11:08.700 Actually, a lot of guys playing vaginas. 1.00

00:11:10.840 Yeah, like, both women and men were like, ew, like... 0.86

00:11:14.480 Not, not the average man, but, like, a quarter of men, like, way more than you'd think.

00:11:18.160 Yeah.

00:11:20.380 Okay, looks matching. A term used to describe the matching of attractive resembles of both romantic

00:11:24.920 partners, which incels see as a solution to the perceived problem of unattractive men having

00:11:30.320 no potential partners. How is it a... How does this make someone a terrorist? Looks

00:11:34.700 maxing. The process of self-improvement with the intent to be more attractive.

00:11:38.900 Oh, how dare you?

00:11:40.420 Improvement as a sign that you're a terrorist. 1.00

00:11:42.620 The nerd. He tried to improve himself. He's a terrorist. 0.93

00:11:49.360 That's... 0.99

00:11:50.320 MGTOW. Of course, they say MGTOW is the acronym for men going their own way, which refers to

00:11:54.760 an online community that has overlap with the incel community. Neat. They see this as a word

00:11:59.600 that is described by this. Okay, red pill and black pill. So this is, I guess, black pill in

00:12:05.160 the context of red pill. So this is a different definition of red pill. I love that they didn't

00:12:09.640 even do this document. Well, they have red pill on it twice. They have red pill on one page,

00:12:13.220 then red pill, black pill on another page, with a different definition of red pill.

00:12:16.340 Maybe this is the not racist version of their definition, because the first definition was so

00:12:21.120 off. Well, okay, red pill refers to a belief shared by many online communities that society is

00:12:27.000 corrupt, and that the believer is a victim of this corruption. Black pill, which is specific to 0.50

00:12:33.160 incels, refers to the belief that this corruption can only be changed through massive societal

00:12:38.280 restructuring, often including violence. The left says stuff like that all the time.

00:12:45.340 Society is corrupt? What are you talking about? Like, okay, let me just change the words here,

00:12:50.820 right? You know, BLM refers to the belief shared by many online communities that society is corrupt,

00:12:57.100 and that the believer is a victim of this corruption. BLM Ultra refers to a belief that

00:13:03.620 the corruption can only be changed through a massive societal restructuring, often including violence.

00:13:09.800 They're just describing the mainstream of their own movement. Yeah. They've got Stacey on here,

00:13:14.700 but the definition is boring. And then they have all this next to things like White Power and

00:13:19.920 Mein Kampf and the Turner Diaries and Siege and the next- Do not- What? Who's- I don't know what any of

00:13:29.500 these books- I know Mein Kampf and that's it. Yeah. That's because I keep using it around the house

00:13:38.000 as like a joke. You keep using Levenstrom as a joke. Yeah, that made me more Levenstrom and that,

00:13:43.640 you know, like, keeping the floors clean is Mein Kampf. But only as a- No one uses that phrase,

00:13:50.200 like, or refers to that book online. That's- Anyway, I feel like they needed to keyword stuff it with

00:13:57.180 references to the National Socialist Party of Germany and other racist thinkers in an attempt to make it

00:14:07.400 seem like this whole set of vocabulary is used together all by the same people.

00:14:13.640 Does that make sense? Yeah.

00:14:17.880 I want to- I want to understand this department at the FBI that's doing this. Like, was there an intern

00:14:25.620 or a recent college grad? Oh yeah, so they had a big document. It's called Involuntary Celibate Violet Extremism.

00:14:31.140 Oh, okay. That's nice.

00:14:35.500 So now we're going to go over something even more horrifying, which is- And this rabbit hole- I showed

00:14:43.220 you a first video on this that some other YouTuber had done. It was good. Yeah.

00:14:46.680 But like, as I dug deeper, it's worse than what he made it sound like.

00:14:50.400 Are you serious?

00:14:50.880 So in 2014, Reddit's year in blog post had to be edited because the town that it included as the

00:14:59.760 most addicted to Reddit was Edglin Air Force Base. Here's the problem. It- that indicated that it had

00:15:08.900 over a hundred thousand unique visitors to Reddit. The problem is, is that that the portion- the number

00:15:15.100 of residents of the Air Force Base was only 2,448. Oops.

00:15:19.140 By discrepancy of 97,000 people. But it's worse than that. Edglin Air Force Base, not long before

00:15:29.020 this, published a paper titled, Containment Control for a Social Media Net- for- I'm sorry.

00:15:36.400 Containment Control for a Social Network with State-Dependent Connectivity, which explores the

00:15:42.160 manipulation of social networks and the use of quote unquote social leaders to influence opinions

00:15:46.780 and beliefs. The, the hilarious thing here is I decided to then try to dig deeper on any of the

00:15:53.540 sources that covered this, right? Cause I was like, okay, is this real? So I would go to the sources

00:16:00.820 that had covered this, which were in the Washington blog. Every one of the articles on this had been

00:16:05.840 removed. I could find sources like actually, ironically Reddit posts talking about what was

00:16:13.800 in archived versions of these sites, but the archived versions have also been removed. So the

00:16:20.520 internet archives have been removed of this, at this point, along with every place that it was

00:16:26.560 mentioned. The only place that I could find a non-removed reference to stuff like this was in

00:16:33.560 the Guardian where they had a fairly watered down discussion of this. Fortunately, we have lots of

00:16:39.980 screenshots of these websites before they were removed. So we know they existed and there has

00:16:45.140 been no denial of the FBI of this activity or the millions of dollars that was spent doing this.

00:16:52.580 Millions? Oh. So if I'm going to go into what the Guardian had to say about this,

00:16:57.040 U.S. military admits spending millions to study manipulation of social media, part of a long-term

00:17:02.860 effort to spread propaganda through the internet. The activity of users of Twitter and other social

00:17:07.940 media services were recorded and analyzed as part of a major project funded by the U.S. military

00:17:11.740 in a program that covers ground similar to Facebook controversial experiment into how to control

00:17:17.260 emotions by manipulating news feeds. And if you are, and this is from the Guardian, a far lefty thing.

00:17:22.880 And I think it's because initially they thought that they were doing this to influence things in a

00:17:25.820 right-wing direction. But now we know because of the Facebook leaks and stuff like that, that they were

00:17:29.600 doing this in a heavy left-wing direction. The Facebook leak that I'm talking about is a story

00:17:33.820 that the FBI knew was true. Facebook was pressured to remove it, which was the Hunter Biden son's

00:17:38.920 laptop leak and ban accounts that were reporting accurate news. The FBI colluded to ban accounts

00:17:46.220 reporting accurate news in the lead up to an election cycle. That is where things are. And we

00:17:52.040 haven't seen any indication of anything like this on the right, which is so funny that the left is

00:17:55.920 always like, oh, the right's a threat to democracy, when they're actively attacking democracy.

00:18:01.760 I've actually seen a couple of self-aware, but jokes, but kind of not jokes from people on the left

00:18:08.020 after looking at the results of this election saying, maybe we did steal the last one, which is, I mean,

00:18:15.760 gosh, it's insane. It just, I can't believe that we even saw the results that we did considering

00:18:21.540 all of the things that are happening. Like even the hostile nature of the existing government

00:18:28.260 toward anyone who leans slightly to the right, which is basically just being a 1990s Democrat,

00:18:35.540 by the way. Well, at least in terms of your social beliefs. I mean, I think that a lot has changed,

00:18:41.040 but it's very different. I argue that the left today is actually, it's not that the right today is

00:18:46.640 what the left is in the 1990s. It's that the left today is what the right was in the 1990s.

00:18:51.320 When a lot of people get wrong because they're too focused on social issues and they're just

00:18:54.680 fighting for a war that doesn't exist anymore. Like the war to ban gay marriage couldn't win 0.95

00:18:59.360 any election cycle. Like we're not even like, we don't even slap down rightists when they say this

00:19:03.620 stuff because like we're pro gays or gay marriage. We slap it down because it's just so dumb. It appeals to 1.00

00:19:09.720 such a small portion of the electorate. They're fighting social battles and they see the fact that we're not

00:19:15.080 fighting those social battles is making us more like Democrats of the nineties. When the reality is

00:19:20.200 the right of the nineties, it's actually very similar to the far left today. They just represent

00:19:24.980 a different view, which is to say in the nineties, it was about pushing what the dominant culture in

00:19:31.480 our country was on the average American citizen. And now it's about pushing a different dominant 0.84

00:19:35.480 cultural group on the average citizen. So I see that as sort of a false equivalency there, but I wanted to

00:19:41.040 one talk about paying to manipulate results. So I think a lot of people, when they look at this

00:19:46.300 and they see how heavily the FBI and the U S military towards an extremist woke agenda is

00:19:53.360 manipulating on that line discourse specifically in environments like Reddit, I think they can

00:19:58.920 misunderstand the impact that 97 votes or down votes can have to control what's making it to the

00:20:06.940 front page within the large subreddits and what comments are making it to the top, et cetera.

00:20:12.540 I will say this as somebody who I will not confirm that I've done this, but let's say we may have

00:20:16.660 experimented with a manipulating the way things get to the top of Reddit through pay for vote systems.

00:20:23.440 It hypothetically could have happened.

00:20:25.480 It hypothetically could have happened, which gives us an idea of how many votes you actually need

00:20:30.060 to create a top post on Reddit. And if you have good content that is gelling with the base of

00:20:36.720 Reddit, you really only need to pay for, I'd argue, maybe 2000 votes. The fact that they were looking

00:20:44.240 at 90,000 votes, that they basically had a complete control over the past decade of what's been at the

00:20:50.420 top of Reddit and what hasn't been at the top of Reddit and likely all other voter-based sites,

00:20:55.240 whether that is the EA forums or Y Combinator, or this is why I think for a long time in non-vote-based

00:21:03.320 sites like 4chan, you have seen things moving very far to the right from the perspective of

00:21:09.320 they're like, oh, the average person isn't that far to the right. Or on X, they're like, oh, the average

00:21:14.020 person can't possibly be that far to the right. Now they're realizing, oh, the average person actually

00:21:17.220 is that far to the right. This isn't like that it was taken over by extremists. This is what it feels

00:21:22.340 like to not be in an echo chamber that's being mediated by the FBI. So Reddit basically hasn't

00:21:30.380 existed as a real site in at least the last half decade. That makes so much sense because I remember

00:21:36.660 just living on it and then returning to it in our, I don't know, post-kid lives and thinking,

00:21:43.420 what happened? Yes, this used to be a place where people had realistic dialogue. In the YouTube video

00:21:51.080 that you shared with me where you first heard about this and started diving down the rabbit hole

00:21:55.520 after, the guy mentioned, he did a hypothetical experiment where he entered a prompt into ChatGPT 0.94

00:22:06.120 asking it to create an am I the asshole post. And it made one that was, that looked totally native,

00:22:12.800 very natural. And he was like, clearly ChatGPT has used Reddit as training data and can easily be used

00:22:18.760 to create fake accounts. Well, this is where it gets worse. Reddit has no way to come back from

00:22:24.980 this. Yeah. Because the way the Reddit and the voting-based systems work is if you look at something

00:22:29.960 like Twitter, what does Twitter select for? It selects for the things that cause the largest

00:22:34.640 emotional reaction. Yes. So that can be a positive or negative reaction. If I want to get a retweet,

00:22:39.420 I can get a retweet by creating a negative reaction just as well as a positive reaction.

00:22:42.800 Well, perhaps even more effectively by getting a negative reaction. Yeah, what does it mean to be

00:22:46.120 ratioed, right? Like, so if the, the, from like an evolutionary perspective, ideas compete on Twitter

00:22:53.220 through their ability to engage our emotional subsets. And it's funny that people are like,

00:23:00.020 Blue Sky will be different. And I'm like, no, it won't be different because it uses the same system.

00:23:04.240 This is why on 4chan, the stuff that comes to the top is the stuff that, the way I'd put it,

00:23:10.580 is the most like attention grabbing in the moment because that's how you get people to pay attention

00:23:17.220 on 4chan. It is ideas outside of a signaling perspective. It's just whatever is on your mind

00:23:24.160 and what you believe to be true while attracting more for things that offend other people to one,

00:23:31.820 create engagement and two, act as a filtering mechanism for people who you do not want within

00:23:37.500 your environment to make it toxic to those people. We're going to go over Crystal Cafe soon,

00:23:42.300 which is like a female version of 4chan. 0.96

00:23:44.220 Yeah, you just mentioned this to me. I need to dive into this.

00:23:46.820 It's really interesting because they've done the same thing to make it really unpleasant to be a man

00:23:51.960 on there. So you wouldn't even want to like role play as a woman. 1.00

00:23:56.460 How does one do that?

00:23:58.240 Well, you'll see when we go over it. We're going to go over it in the episode where I argue that

00:24:01.980 everyone under replacement rate is a cuck. 0.96

00:24:04.820 Oh, great. Okay. 0.99

00:24:06.900 So be looking for that episode.

00:24:11.600 But the problem with all of this is, is in, okay, so what wins within the voter-based environments?

00:24:17.360 It is the thing that is the most average of an opinion,

00:24:20.880 the most average of an opinion for that particular room. Now on YouTube, what wins?

00:24:25.520 On YouTube, what wins, interestingly, is the content

00:24:27.920 that is most appealing to people algorithmically like yourself.

00:24:32.600 What is the best place to find good content on the internet?

00:24:36.280 In community discords, and we'll put a link to our discord here,

00:24:40.060 which have a feel of like early internet stuff.

00:24:42.220 But YouTube itself is very good for, I think, an average person who wants to know what people like

00:24:48.340 themselves are saying. Now, the problem with Reddit and what's going to lead to itself

00:24:53.760 destruction is the most average of ideas wins. The most average and safe and guarded of ideas

00:25:00.680 while being influenced by organizations like the FBI to be even more average and safe.

00:25:06.560 Who is going to win at that game, especially if they were trained on Reddit data?

00:25:11.940 AI. AI will almost always be able to out-compete humans on a platform like Reddit,

00:25:17.720 especially as AI advances further. The types of stories, because it creates the most average idea.

00:25:27.560 And that's what is rewarded on Reddit. And that's why Reddit has no possible future.

00:25:36.200 And did you have any thoughts on this before I go further?

00:25:38.640 That's sad. RIP Reddit. It had a long time ago. It had a great run and I really enjoyed it.

00:25:46.640 There's so many things. I mean, its staff accelerated its demise.

00:25:52.880 No, it deserved what was coming to it, but it still makes me sad. Imagine, it's like going to,

00:26:01.060 it's driving by your childhood house that your family moved out of and seeing that it 1.00

00:26:04.680 went to shit. Turned into like a meth den? 1.00

00:26:06.840 Yeah. A meth den that's like obviously a bunch of FBI plants. Like, hey, would you like some

00:26:13.040 marijuana young man? No, no. The point here being is that if you go to Reddit, the only reason to go

00:26:19.220 to Reddit is, do not go to Reddit to get an understanding of what the left thinks. The

00:26:23.020 left isn't meaningfully on Reddit anymore. Go to Reddit to get an understanding of what the FBI

00:26:27.900 wants you to think. That is the only thing that you are getting from Reddit anymore.

00:26:33.740 But to get an understanding of like how far this has gone within other countries that have been

00:26:38.980 more infected by the Cordyceps virus or wokeism or the urban monoculture than the United States,

00:26:43.960 the British government considers the following as terrorism and believes it has the right to 0.99

00:26:50.440 investigate and jail people for this. So I'll read the quote from their own report.

00:26:54.280 If the disclosure, so thing that's being written or threat of disclosure,

00:26:57.720 is designed to influence a government or made for the purpose of promoting a political or ideological

00:27:04.100 cause. Anything that can disrupt the status quo is terrorism. Oh boy. The UK is not going to be

00:27:14.140 okay if it maintains this general stance and approach to culture slash solving problems.

00:27:21.460 This is not good. Well, they arrested a guy for this. David Miranda case. British high court

00:27:25.660 accepts investigation. Journalists can be tried like terrorists. Um, and I'd point out here that

00:27:33.000 you're like, okay, so it's like the FBI is a problem and maybe like the N.I. say is a problem.

00:27:38.780 Very top security stuff because if people knew how we did it, then everyone would do it.

00:27:43.060 Then our enemies would do it. We can't let our enemies get their hands on this.

00:27:46.920 Get their hands on what?

00:27:52.060 Dude.

00:27:55.660 No, this is spread to every branch of our government independently. This is the way the

00:28:08.380 infection works. So the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States in a request for proposals

00:28:15.180 filed to companies that are feds vendors is requesting the creation of a social listing platform

00:28:21.480 whose function is to gather data from various social media outlets and news sources that

00:28:26.560 will monitor billions of conversations and generate text analytics based on predefined criteria.

00:28:33.120 The, the, the Federal Reserve is-

00:28:36.120 Why do they need that? 0.57

00:28:39.620 We need to look at more RFPs. That is, I guess that's something DOS should, well, they're going

00:28:44.800 to, they're going to audit every single contract, but they should also be looking at new requests.

00:28:49.760 That is deeply disturbing. Also, part of me wonders, what if part of the objective of this

00:28:58.620 manipulation was to kill Reddit? Reddit being seen as a place where people were radicalized and

00:29:07.040 they just wanted to-

00:29:07.840 It definitely wasn't. They had no, no. They see Reddit as a, as a platform completely under

00:29:12.180 their control. They love Reddit. Reddit's the best.

00:29:15.200 They want people to stay there. Keep in mind-

00:29:17.200 They want people to like it.

00:29:19.380 Yeah. Even the FBI now is worried about things like Facebook. Now that Mark Zuckerberg has been

00:29:24.100 like, he was the one who leaked, Mark Zuckerberg is the one who leaked that the Hunter Biden laptop

00:29:28.400 story was suppressed. That, that, that came from the Zuck. The Zuck, he may have taken a while to come 1.00

00:29:34.780 around, but I think he's in the process of coming around. And I do not think that the FBI trusts him

00:29:39.520 was that sort of request anymore.

00:29:40.620 He's in his new era. I'm liking it.

00:29:43.120 He's in his new era. Okay. Yeah. So I don't, I don't, I don't think of all the platforms,

00:29:47.960 they've got Blue Sky, they've got Reddit, they've got like, what? Like the, the, the Tumblr

00:29:56.060 Is Mastodon still a thing or not? I think there's a lot of-

00:29:59.520 Is what still a thing?

00:30:00.640 Mastodon.

00:30:01.840 Oh no, not really.

00:30:02.720 I think Discord just is everything that Mastodon was proposing to be and so much better. So

00:30:08.100 it probably never had a shot.

00:30:12.320 Yeah. Discord feels like the early internet, by the way, for people who weren't around in

00:30:16.660 the early internet. And if you want to join our Discord, you can find a link. It's great.

00:30:21.280 I find it a really fun place to hang out online, pretty high quality conversations. I'd also note

00:30:26.260 here that if you feel like the internet is dying, because like when I go to Google now, it feels

00:30:30.260 like an increasing amount of the internet just isn't real. Like I feel like as the astroturfing

00:30:35.300 has break, as the brain rot of the people doing the astroturfing has increased, as the

00:30:40.760 cordyceps fungus has eaten of the urban monoculture has eaten more and more of their brains and their

00:30:45.640 only job is self-replication of the virus, they no longer think in full thoughts. As I

00:30:50.120 mentioned recently, I got in an argument with somebody that just broke down into simple

00:30:53.500 phonetic loops, like break the cycle, like be better. Don't, you know, like, I was like,

00:30:59.120 what? This isn't an argument. It's like in Rick and Morty when the simulation is breaking

00:31:05.200 down. And they're like, my man, my man.

00:31:12.600 That's what it felt like in real life. And I was trying to talk to like an average citizen

00:31:15.900 on the street. And I was like, oh my God, like these people are so brain rotted by the

00:31:20.220 internet that they lack the capacity for genuine independent thought anymore. And they're running

00:31:25.400 on a collection of phonetic loops. And I think what happened is as the bug men have become more

00:31:33.320 and more infected to the extent that they can't have rational thoughts anymore, these environments

00:31:36.920 that they were curating and astroturfing are breaking down. And we're beginning to realize there

00:31:42.040 was never anyone there. That most of the internet has been an astroturf job. That dead internet theory

00:31:48.180 was not wrong. The internet has been dead for a while now. It is just becoming clear at this point.

00:31:56.520 And that the only real conversations you can have anymore are places like discord, which is pre-sorting

00:32:03.060 for people who are following specific, like based or otherwise filtering individuals on YouTube and

00:32:07.720 stuff like that. Or, and to give you an idea of how bad this is in 2006, four years after a website

00:32:13.980 was created, there was a 40% chance it would still be around. In 2015, five years after, sorry, four

00:32:20.440 years after a website was created, only 3% of them were still around. It went from in less than 10

00:32:25.880 years, 40% sticking around to 3% sticking around. Wow. Okay. Things are changing. Yeah. I came into this

00:32:38.160 or before you shared this with me, I thought, well, we're heading into this crisis now where soon no one

00:32:45.880 will know where to go online because everything's going to be generated by AI. But now I realized that for

00:32:51.820 the past five to seven years, it has already been largely fake content that we've been seeing

00:32:58.700 this whole time, the call was coming from inside the house. It was already.

00:33:06.540 I wouldn't mailing the hashtag dismantle the FBI. I don't know if we need it anymore. I mean,

00:33:12.640 if they're not doing anything. Remember when the, we, we experienced someone stole a very non-trivial

00:33:20.780 amount of money from our business. We had their name, we had their address, we had their banking info

00:33:24.900 and we were told by our bank to send it to the FBI. And we never heard from anyone. We tried

00:33:34.320 all the channels we could, nobody got back to us. And I'm like, oh, so are they understaffed? Is

00:33:41.720 there some kind of disaster? Like, why aren't they helping us? This, this is, it should be open and

00:33:46.780 shut. They have this person's address, their bank account. Like this isn't. Like it wasn't.

00:33:51.620 People understand this person stole money from us. Very obviously the bank said, yeah, this is stolen

00:33:58.400 money. And we had the account that the money was wired to. And the name and their address. Like

00:34:02.980 we had all of their information and they said, submit it to the FBI. But I guess they were a little

00:34:10.420 too busy posting on Reddit. They were a little too busy watching our show to like track, to see how

00:34:16.000 we're breaking the rules. They're like, hmm, we have to find those incels. They're the real threat.

00:34:21.100 The, the incels who are spending money online, at least subsidizing the lives of a huge number of

00:34:28.620 women through OnlyFans. I, you know, like they're, they're doing their part to, to prop up the economy. 1.00

00:34:35.280 Meanwhile, someone is stealing a huge amounts of money from us. So no one's, no one's answering the phone.

00:34:43.460 I feel like, you know, Trumpism is a fight back against this and maybe they can do some remediation,

00:34:51.900 but we really are in a scenario where things are circling the drain at this point. The rot of the

00:34:58.160 urban monoculture has gotten so extreme and so. Delete. I think, you know, throwing the folder in

00:35:04.500 the wastebasket, letting it go. Well, and I also think that some people don't, and this is something

00:35:11.080 always is, is interesting to me. The people who like, know that they're the enemies of the urban

00:35:16.540 monoculture, but like, they don't believe how bad it's gotten. Well, I certainly don't. And now I

00:35:23.780 realize that you and I are probably on an FBI watch list. A terrorist watch list, by the way. Oh, great.

00:35:32.080 Yeah. Um, I told you that basically we, and of course anyone these days, honestly should assume

00:35:37.840 that every smart device in their home is being used to actively monitor everything they say that

00:35:43.460 it, the, the big revelation with Edward Snowden, that everyone might be listening or sort of at least

00:35:49.040 recording your calls and you should be careful about any keywords used that might get you put on

00:35:53.780 some kind of list really did extend more to any device or anything that you typed into or spoke

00:35:59.900 around. Um, so I don't know, like fine, but also I'm sorry. I guess it's great that AI exists because

00:36:08.280 I would feel bad for any professional who would be forced to actually listen into conversations. And

00:36:12.820 now at least AI is being used to just summarize everything, but yeah. Well, it's interesting as

00:36:19.220 well, but I love the Dems are like, how did we lose the working class? And it's like,

00:36:24.040 you've got to understand the democratic party right now is the party of the corpos. It's the party that

00:36:30.200 says your average citizen who is saying based, uh, or in cell, or who is having trouble dating as a man

00:36:36.940 or saying that there are systemically unfair dating environments for men these days. These are the

00:36:41.720 people who should be on terrorist watch list. The people who are disrupting the oligarchs control of our

00:36:47.580 society right now. And the oligarchs are all in the urban monoculture. You cannot be a party of the

00:36:53.420 working class and be a party for gender transition of minors. These two things are completely inconsistent

00:37:01.400 because your, your rot and your virus ignored the working class because they couldn't extract 0.91

00:37:07.020 money from them. It didn't care about them. So when you go to their towns and you say this shit, 0.89

00:37:12.840 they're like, Whoa, you are, you are a monster, sir. You are a high grade monster and I want you away 1.00

00:37:21.220 from my children. Yeah. Well, the, the other thing that disturbs me is that, okay. A lot of people on 1.00

00:37:28.740 the left are, for example, saying I'm very disturbed. You know, what, what if, if all these government

00:37:33.680 organizations are going to be shut down, who's going to be running quality control on my food,

00:37:38.280 who's going to be managing these essential services that they assume right now. And that's the thing

00:37:44.200 is, is I think really at this point, people think that the government is doing a lot more than it is

00:37:51.640 actually doing. The government stopped doing those things a long time ago. And you have a false sense

00:37:58.000 of security that they're being done just because there is a massive amount of spending being done

00:38:02.260 on it. You don't realize that that spending is going to bureaucratic waste and to pensions and to

00:38:07.660 debts and not to a bunch of activity that you assumed was being done. And I think a big crisis

00:38:14.160 that you and I have had in adulthood in general is assuming that because something's being paid for,

00:38:19.020 it's being handled. That's not true. And the Biden administration, and we go over this on our video

00:38:26.500 on the inflation stuff and the Biden administration that it it's like, Oh, look, we're doing so well in

00:38:31.300 jobs, all of its job creation. It shrunk in terms of real jobs. All of its job creation was just in

00:38:36.780 the government sector or things downstream of the government sector, like health care. Like

00:38:40.460 it just pumped more money out. It just printed more dollars. Yeah. Yeah. I think the new paradigm

00:38:47.320 should be all things are paid for as they are received. So when you complete the service,

00:38:55.280 you get paid. When you deliver the product, you get paid and, and no one should be paid until

00:39:01.920 very concrete goals and progress is made. This concept of salaries or budgets in general,

00:39:10.480 I think has become bankrupt and it could, we have the ability now, for example, with AI

00:39:18.080 to actively monitor achievements well enough to pay people as we're going along. I think that

00:39:23.680 salaries had a reason to exist and budgets had a reason to exist in the past because it was just

00:39:28.760 impractical to pay things like to pay people for achievements as they went along. It would be just

00:39:33.820 too much of micromanaging work. Now we literally have the technology to just pay for things as they

00:39:38.720 get done because the AI can just check milestones and be like, okay, yeah, release the funds.

00:39:44.680 We can't keep doing this. So I think what's happened is we've reached this period of quiet,

00:39:50.720 quitting, lying flat, et cetera, where organizations and people have generally realized the mods are

00:39:59.160 asleep. No one is paying attention. I can just stop working. And guess what? No one even really

00:40:04.980 knows what I'm supposed to do anyway. You look at the unsolved crime rate. We had an episode on this

00:40:08.240 where it's like doubled in every major area just in the past like eight years. Like the, the world

00:40:13.860 has quiet quit. Yes. The world has quit quietly and nobody realizes it. And we just think everything's

00:40:21.440 being done and it's not being done. And I'm so scared. And intellectually quiet quit as well.

00:40:26.380 I think that this is another thing that really needs to be hammered on, which is to say that

00:40:30.640 a lot of individuals, when I look at the internet today, when I look at the ideas that are being

00:40:36.520 shared there, it feels very frost punky to me. Like there's this one little community.

00:40:41.020 Well, doesn't that make you feel good? You love frost punk. 0.57

00:40:43.920 Yeah, it does make you feel good. Like us are the people connected to us that are still like

00:40:47.420 intellectually alive. And the rest of the internet, like in Shugachara, like they are, 0.73

00:40:54.820 they're, they're, they're, they're remnants and they've mostly been erased from reality. They,

00:40:58.700 they have no fire to them, no light to them. There's nothing there. There's no new ideas.

00:41:03.920 It's just that they're repeating one old idea or another old idea. Yeah. It might be

00:41:08.780 just trying to aesthetically LARP some old religion or they might be, which is really just repeating

00:41:14.660 ideas, repeating ideas, repeating ideas, or they might be urban monoculture, repeating ideas,

00:41:18.380 repeating ideas. And the intellectually alive players is such a small community that then

00:41:23.520 has a community of listeners like gathered around it, like around the central generator and

00:41:28.600 outside of this little part of the internet, it's nothing but cold and ice. And it's horrifying.

00:41:35.520 I mean, there's a few little, like, I guess, tire fires here or there, but other than that,

00:41:41.140 it's mostly a wasteland. Well, thank goodness for the tire fires, I guess.

00:41:47.600 Interesting times. Very interesting times. I'm disturbed, but yeah. Hopefully, I just really hope

00:41:59.200 that once the new administration starts working after January 20th, that we actually carve out and

00:42:08.340 start fresh. We have to, because one, we can't afford everything that is being paid for now. And

00:42:16.000 two, we're not getting things from it. And even like I told you last night, there were six gunshots

00:42:21.520 outside our house. I checked with our neighbors. Both of them had, well, I mean, all three, well,

00:42:27.740 all four had heard, all of them had the gunshots, except for you, because you were asleep, because

00:42:32.440 you wake up at 2 a.m. And no one bothered calling the police or checking, like, trying to see what was

00:42:39.200 going on. Because there's this now, there's this assumption that no one's going to do anything. So why

00:42:45.100 bother? And I feel like we've also reached this unspoken collective conclusion that we can't

00:42:51.820 depend on much of the government anymore. Well, that's not to say, like, the police here that we

00:42:57.120 have interacted with. We've got another AR-15 for the family, for my room. You're like, hey, any good

00:43:01.700 Cyber Monday for AR-15? We've been planning on, it was on our Black Friday list since August or

00:43:08.400 something for a long time. I mean, how many do you want ultimately for the house? I don't know. Get

00:43:14.180 one with every kid, one for every kid. Well, then we need a few more. Oh, then keep checking for

00:43:19.980 more sales. They're not inexpensive, but. They're worth it. They're worth it for a collapse scenario.

00:43:26.740 We just need to make sure we have the bullets. Yeah, we need to, we need to get, well, that would

00:43:30.600 be another good Cyber Monday sale thing to look at. Oh, let's check for the bullets to make sure we have

00:43:35.120 them. But anyway, I, it, I think that society has collectively realized this, but it's one of those

00:43:43.040 things that we don't want to admit to ourselves. So we don't talk about it a lot. And I think that's

00:43:49.160 one of those signs that we're in the middle of the collapse. It's that period where you're at the top

00:43:54.800 of the roller coaster, but half the cart is hanging off the dip and the other half is still back. No,

00:44:00.720 but like half of it, it's already sitting at the top and like the momentum is going to start building,

00:44:04.880 but it's already, it's already there. And. Oh, I don't know. It's not going to be, it's not road

00:44:14.460 warrior, like you say, but I do think that there are some things that I really worry about. And it's

00:44:20.460 so lumpy because while none of us decided to call the police after hearing gunshots, right outside our

00:44:27.460 house, we also see the police outside our house, at least a couple of nights a week, because the,

00:44:33.700 they like just set up a speed trap right in front of our house to pull people over. 0.99

00:44:37.400 No, they can fuck with you. Of course they'll do that. They can make money off of you. 1.00

00:44:39.980 Like they're there. Like, you know that they're there. That's what's odd. Well,

00:44:43.380 and I mean, every interaction we've had with them. No, you know the money they take from,

00:44:46.680 from like speeding tickets, those go to their departments. The money, they don't make money

00:44:51.980 by catching a random. It's basically fundraising. Yeah. But I like that they're fundraising around

00:44:55.620 our house because people drive too fast. Still. It's, I don't know. It's weird because

00:45:00.760 the government is there and the government will help. Like, and also like the number that the,

00:45:05.080 the ratio of professionals to our kid who's going through kindergarten now, cause he asked to

00:45:10.060 is insane. I'm like, wow. I mean, there's, they're all like bitter and terrible. Like we had a zoom

00:45:14.840 call where like to check in on his progress and they were like five people on it. I'm like, how

00:45:19.580 because it's all administrators. These aren't people who are with the kid.

00:45:23.160 But I mean, what I'm saying is like, there's this lumpiness where like, if you go to certain

00:45:28.720 parts of the U S government, you'll be surrounded by people. There will be money everywhere. It's

00:45:33.280 like falling out of the walls. And then you go to like, you try to call the FBI cause money was

00:45:38.120 stolen from you or you're afraid because you know, there were gunshots outside your house and it's

00:45:42.340 crickets. This administration explosions. If you look at graphs of spending in the education space,

00:45:47.420 you see it's, it's equal on teachers. It's equal like for the past 20 years. Yeah.

00:45:51.080 Uh, but administration has exploded. Yeah. Spending on students has not changed.

00:45:55.520 But this is the same with the FBI. This is the same with police forces. This is the same

00:45:59.400 administration needs to be cut to nothing across the board.

00:46:03.360 Well, and it can be without a change in quality, given where we are with technology. Now the

00:46:07.740 administrative systems that exist in most government and sort of legacy civic offices now

00:46:14.320 are from a time, honestly, a pre-internet time, most of the systems and the way things are run

00:46:20.080 and the processes that were like the standard operating procedures are from a pre-internet

00:46:24.320 era. We can clear out so much waste and so much spending and maintain, if not improve quality,

00:46:34.000 just because of where we are with technology and AI. So we're not saying that these things are bad.

00:46:38.560 And I think that's a big misconception when people are looking at this idea of eliminating and hollowing

00:46:45.120 out government. It's not about taking away the services. It's about restoring them because

00:46:51.680 they aren't there right now. Anyway, I think that's the bigger thread for me is it's not just that the

00:46:56.640 internet isn't there anymore. It's not just that Reddit is fake. It's that so many government services

00:47:03.760 are fake, at least in the United States. Yep. Well, I love you, Simone. We should get to the next video.

00:47:10.320 I love you too. At least we can be warmed by our love for each other.

00:47:14.720 We are in the circle of love, whether it's our fans or our family. We are weathering this,

00:47:22.880 I would almost say, easily. All right. Love you to death, Simone.

00:47:26.800 I love you too. Gorgeous. Warmer clothes because it is obviously very cold in here,

00:47:33.760 as it should be. By the way, did you see the latest

00:47:36.480 thing I sent you on WhatsApp? I actually almost burst out laughing the moment I read this.

00:47:40.960 No. Okay. Hold on. What did you send me? It says in the telegraph,

00:47:45.120 keep brain dead women alive and use them as surrogate mothers, suggest doctors. Medical Association

00:47:51.040 apologizes after academic argued it could become common, a common way to bring new children into the

00:47:56.640 world. I was like, you know, there's that, how is it going meme? And then that bad, huh? I feel like

00:48:02.960 urban monoculture, how is pronatalism? How is fixing it without fixing the culture treating you?

00:48:08.080 Oh, that bad, huh? It's yeah. And I just finished Hannah's children, by the way, that,

00:48:15.280 that pronatalist book, she ends with pronatalist policy recommendations. And it's the best that I've

00:48:22.800 ever read of any write up. It's just focus on the families that are having five plus kids.

00:48:31.200 And the best way to do that is to empower religious communities to provide their own services and

00:48:36.400 amenities and, and empower people to give their kids religious education. That's it. Which,

00:48:44.000 which is this whole time, like, and that's what is effective. And it's not, she made it so clear,

00:48:50.640 so articulately and so eloquently that there is no amount of money you can pay a woman to completely 1.00

00:48:56.640 change their lives and make it about kids. Like the, the, the sacrifice that you give up,

00:49:00.800 the lifestyle change you're making, no one who's materialistic is going to be motivated by some

00:49:06.880 materialistic incentive to do that. Like you can't use materialism to incentivize people to become

00:49:13.200 unmaterialistic.

00:49:14.160 Well, and I think that this is fundamentally what people misunderstand about this

00:49:19.440 is they'll be like, yes, but I don't have enough money to do basic things if I have kids.

00:49:25.440 And then I point out, are there people who make half as much money as you? Because when people

00:49:29.120 saying this to me, they're typically people making like, let's say a hundred K a year or like way more.

00:49:34.160 No, typically they make way more than us.

00:49:36.320 No, no, no. But I'm just saying this is the crowds that I often hear this is people earning like

00:49:41.840 50 K a year, like median us salaries. Right. And I point out, I'm like, you know, that like

00:49:47.200 a good chunk of the American population has a lot of kids and makes a lot less money than you,

00:49:52.560 like half what you make. So clearly there is a way to make it work. You just aren't considering it.

00:49:59.360 You are not considering cutting back your lifestyle as an option.

00:50:03.280 Yeah. And another interesting thing that she said at one point near the end of the book or noted,

00:50:07.920 I think this was from other mothers interviews that she did with them, that you don't really

00:50:13.360 experience the death. You don't burn away the selfishness. That was the wording one mother used

00:50:18.880 until after two kids. And after that point, I agree. You're not really a parent until after two kids.

00:50:24.240 Yeah. But there's something like you literally undergo a form of ego death once you reach a certain

00:50:30.400 number of biologically. And I would say that the change in me as a parent was bigger from

00:50:38.080 two to three kids than from zero to one kid. Yeah. Yeah. But you'd agree with that, right? 0.93

00:50:43.920 That it was a bigger shift to go from two to three and sort of biologically how you relate to reality,

00:50:49.760 everything like that. Yeah. Well, I think you reach a tipping point where once you start to become

00:50:54.560 outnumbered by your kids, it's just mentally so much harder to keep prioritizing your own emotions

00:51:03.200 and needs over theirs. They just crowd out the space. There's no space for it. There's no space

00:51:08.160 for your anxiety and your pettiness and your dumb ideas. And it becomes your kids. And I love that. 1.00

00:51:15.680 You have the affordance to make the selfish decisions, which are the cause of a lot of

00:51:20.240 our suffering in our modern society. But I love this metaphor of burning away the selfishness.

00:51:24.800 It's great. All right. I'm gonna get started here.

00:51:29.600 Octavian, what are you opening up? The hot lava box.

00:51:33.440 The hot lava box? Oh, is it a balance beam?

00:51:39.200 You're gonna open up and find out?

00:51:41.760 Is daddy putting your play structure together?

00:51:44.800 Is he not the coolest daddy ever?

00:51:50.240 It's the best day ever?

00:51:52.000 Yeah. I'm opening this box.

00:51:55.600 I wonder, let's see what's in here.

00:51:59.040 Oh, you want to see what's in the box? What do you think is in the box?

00:52:03.280 Let's see. Let's see if there's hot lava. 0.98

00:52:07.680 Well, I don't think we bought hot lava for the house. I think that'd be pretty dangerous.

00:52:11.200 Yeah. Remember, Octavian, we've been discussing how there seems to be a hot lava

00:52:14.480 problem in the house because you keep saying everything is lava.

00:52:17.600 I open the floor! 0.99

00:52:20.480 So we got you a bridge to go over the lava, silly goose. 1.00

00:52:24.400 Oh. 0.99

00:52:24.800 Oh.

00:52:25.200 Oh.

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