Based Camp - Tract 5： Mysticism is a Bigger Threat to the Abrahamic Traditions than Secularism

00:00:00.000 They have made, and this is the course in here,

00:00:01.700 they have made pursuing a mental state the goal.

00:00:05.980 Yeah.

00:00:06.700 And the mental state is the byproduct of the correct mindset.

00:00:10.680 Yeah, and what they often do is they will act like this mental state,

00:00:14.580 which is actually pretty easy to do,

00:00:16.020 is a difficult thing that only like a true master can do.

00:00:19.040 They'll start gaslighting you because that's how they assert their status,

00:00:22.040 which is always important within cult traditions.

00:00:24.120 I just stood there quietly breathing.

00:00:26.440 There were no thoughts in my head whatsoever.

00:00:28.600 My mind was blank.

00:00:30.640 I don't know what the hell these other crackpots are doing.

00:00:32.920 Are so, so, so dangerous for religious systems

00:00:36.460 from both a theological and secular perspective,

00:00:39.160 which is what we always aim to do in these,

00:00:40.680 is explain why rules exist within them

00:00:42.980 from both a secular evolutionary perspective,

00:00:45.060 but also from a theological perspective.

00:00:47.760 Why doesn't God want us dancing around campfires naked?

00:00:51.140 Because that leads to people's mental faculties being corrupted,

00:00:54.960 being lowered, their inhibitions being lowered,

00:00:56.900 makes it easier to implant false ideas into an individual.

00:01:00.460 And it can be used to manipulate and control individuals by malevolent actors.

00:01:05.280 I feel like one of the reasons why I'm so antagonistic towards mysticism,

00:01:08.720 if you study it after studying about cults,

00:01:11.100 is you'll see that it is very similar to cults in what it does.

00:01:14.420 It's just a convergent cult within the various Abrahamic traditions,

00:01:17.800 or within any tradition.

00:01:18.880 You're going to get mystics within Buddhist schools, within Hindi schools.

00:01:21.060 You're always going to get the mystic cults.

00:01:22.240 And, but when you first study cults,

00:01:24.760 when you see how malevolent humans have developed and honed these traditions

00:01:29.380 to manipulate people into believing falsehoods,

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00:01:59.220 So you, so Malcolm,

00:02:00.300 you frame idolatry as this really important element of religion in a way

00:02:06.320 that I've never really heard framed before in fictional or real depictions

00:02:12.040 of religious practice or preaching.

00:02:14.920 Before you dive into this tract,

00:02:16.760 I'm just kind of curious why you think it's such a big deal.

00:02:23.240 Well, because I think it's literally the single largest temptation for people

00:02:29.040 who are trying to follow God in goodwill.

00:02:33.420 That's why, because, you know,

00:02:35.600 something like murder or something like that.

00:02:37.420 I mean, most humans can intuit that this is a bad thing that's going to lead to

00:02:41.300 bad outcomes for themselves or for their community if it's allowed.

00:02:44.520 I think people can't intuit why idolatry is so dangerous to a community or to an

00:02:51.120 individual.

00:02:52.240 And that's why it needs to be emphasized so strongly.

00:02:56.220 But interestingly, as I pointed out in the, in the last tract,

00:02:58.660 a lot of people misunderstand what is actually meant by idolatry.

00:03:02.560 You know, they,

00:03:03.020 they hear idolatry and they think it means, you know,

00:03:06.200 literally the art itself, which has spiritual significance,

00:03:09.280 which is, is, is a form of idolatry or the statue itself that, but no,

00:03:14.380 no, no idolatry is looking for shortcuts to God through earthly things.

00:03:19.480 So, or assigning spiritual significance to earthly things.

00:03:23.860 So, you know,

00:03:24.580 if a cartoonist is drawing a picture of Muhammad, for example,

00:03:27.420 was in this,

00:03:28.100 the cartoonist hasn't actually committed idolatry because he doesn't assign any

00:03:31.120 spiritual significance to that.

00:03:32.860 The individual,

00:03:33.700 when they get mad at the cartoonist and they assign spiritual significance to

00:03:37.240 that,

00:03:37.580 they have now committed idolatry because they've created an earthly

00:03:40.380 intermediary for either side of the divine, whether it's, you know,

00:03:42.820 believing in cursed places like negative or positive, you know,

00:03:46.000 signing a Quran and saying this Quran is sacred and you can't, you know,

00:03:51.060 you need to have different special ways of disposing of it and everything

00:03:53.420 like that.

00:03:53.740 You have now created an earthly intermediary,

00:03:56.600 a physical intermediary on this planet between you and God, which is,

00:04:00.740 you know,

00:04:01.120 the same as like the,

00:04:02.140 the nature worshiping pagans that where,

00:04:04.700 where Judaism really cleaved, you know,

00:04:06.760 the beginning of the Abrahamic faith from the religions around them is it

00:04:09.520 didn't worship God through earthly intermediaries, whether that was idols,

00:04:13.400 whether that was gold or whether that was, you know,

00:04:16.380 streams and, and waterfalls and, you know, butterflies.

00:04:21.420 It was saying, no, no, you,

00:04:23.160 you cannot worship the real God through earthly intermediaries.

00:04:27.520 And here we're going to get into why shortcuts to God are so,

00:04:32.740 so,

00:04:33.140 so dangerous for religious systems from both a theological and secular

00:04:37.560 perspective, which is what we always aim to do in these is explain why rules

00:04:40.920 exist within them from both a secular evolutionary perspective,

00:04:43.780 but also from a theological perspective and to reinforce the rules that I

00:04:48.980 think that many of these systems have sometimes gone soft on over time,

00:04:52.840 either through cultural, you know,

00:04:54.600 believing next to other cultural groups or,

00:04:56.980 and you can be any of the, like,

00:04:58.480 like what we're talking about here, you can be a Jew,

00:05:00.980 you can be a Catholic,

00:05:02.200 you can be a Muslim and you can be like, oh,

00:05:04.640 this seems true.

00:05:06.120 I will follow my religion with this monotheistic faith system,

00:05:10.020 or I will follow my religion with, you know,

00:05:12.800 one of the other systems, right?

00:05:14.500 Which,

00:05:14.800 which is really interesting when you have this diversity of conceptions of God

00:05:18.160 within these faith systems.

00:05:21.100 And somebody's like, well, you know,

00:05:23.220 he's Jewish and he's Jewish or even ultra Orthodox Jewish,

00:05:26.300 like he's ultra Orthodox Jewish,

00:05:27.800 but he basically worships a totally mystical God within these three faith

00:05:30.500 systems.

00:05:31.060 And then he's Orthodox Jewish,

00:05:31.980 but he worships a totally monotheistic God and he worships a totally

00:05:35.060 polytheistic God, you know,

00:05:36.060 with all of these, you know,

00:05:37.300 you know,

00:05:37.600 distinct cosmology and angels and everything like that.

00:05:40.160 And these three individuals,

00:05:41.020 we would say are worshiping three different entities.

00:05:43.520 You know,

00:05:43.940 if you,

00:05:45.140 you know,

00:05:45.500 if I take some native American religion or something like that,

00:05:47.780 and I just replace all of the key entities and it was Yahweh,

00:05:51.240 and then I go through all of their practices,

00:05:53.320 I'm not worshiping God,

00:05:54.920 I'm worshiping the native American gods.

00:05:56.620 I've just changed the names,

00:05:58.240 you know?

00:05:58.580 So this is really important because these other types of religious systems

00:06:03.520 do not lead to,

00:06:04.740 from a secular perspective,

00:06:05.600 it's important.

00:06:06.320 You know,

00:06:06.440 they do not lead to industry.

00:06:07.440 They do not lead to philosophy.

00:06:08.440 They do not lead to cultural flourishing,

00:06:10.400 which,

00:06:10.680 which we've seen when,

00:06:11.980 you know,

00:06:12.460 these,

00:06:12.780 these various systems have succumbed to this,

00:06:14.720 whether,

00:06:15.060 you know,

00:06:15.220 we saw this was with the Islamic empire.

00:06:16.980 We saw this was the Christian systems,

00:06:18.940 you know,

00:06:19.320 during the dark ages,

00:06:20.360 we've,

00:06:20.740 we see this over and over again.

00:06:21.860 And I,

00:06:22.140 and I think we're beginning to see it again now as people succumb to various

00:06:24.920 forms of idolatry.

00:06:26.120 All right.

00:06:28.100 So tract five,

00:06:30.380 spiritualism is idolatry.

00:06:32.900 The last tract focused on the obvious dangers of idolatry,

00:06:37.260 but the true danger of idolatry is much more existential.

00:06:40.420 The quest for idolatric desires to conceive of some aspect of God was in this

00:06:46.300 lower human mind,

00:06:47.520 to sully God out of vain curiosity by summoning some sliver of him to the level

00:06:52.580 of something that could be captured by our putrid and petty minds leads.

00:06:57.080 Even holy men directly into the servitude of the basilisk,

00:07:00.920 the great deceiver,

00:07:02.120 falsehood incarnate,

00:07:03.560 a harem,

00:07:04.960 a heromen,

00:07:05.920 the devil.

00:07:07.420 The human mind is weak and easily tricked due to shortcuts that were taken in

00:07:12.160 this evolution.

00:07:13.080 This can be exploited by cult leaders to make people believe they have seen

00:07:16.780 slivers of God.

00:07:17.760 This can be done through food deprivation,

00:07:20.960 chanting phrases,

00:07:22.180 unique postures for long periods,

00:07:23.940 sleep deprivation,

00:07:25.100 rhythmic dancing,

00:07:26.180 crowds engaging in mindless behavior,

00:07:28.240 stage hypnosis techniques,

00:07:29.860 and ingesting hallucinogenic chemicals.

00:07:32.180 Given that this is the case,

00:07:33.640 it is only natural that maliciously minded individuals who would use these tricks

00:07:38.040 to do people into believing that they are an intermediary with God.

00:07:41.860 A swami can use something as innocuous as yoga to turn a simple minded woman into his

00:07:48.060 sex slave,

00:07:48.880 all while she believes she is getting closer to the divine.

00:07:52.500 However,

00:07:53.300 these failures of the human brain can have a much more nefarious effect.

00:07:57.420 Because these exist as exploits in all humans across all cultures,

00:08:02.460 even well-meaning Abrahamic ones,

00:08:05.200 groups within those cultures end up discovering them by accident,

00:08:09.520 and then believe that they have found a path to God.

00:08:13.340 It's as if the basilisk left stashes of drugs intermingled among the human soul,

00:08:19.080 and any idiot can accidentally find them if they know where to look.

00:08:23.460 If we stamped out this idolatrous witchcraft entirely and burned all its practitioners,

00:08:29.700 some gornless idiot would accidentally discover these techniques again,

00:08:33.800 because they are part of the background nature of humanity.

00:08:36.620 And through that,

00:08:38.120 a well-meaning follower of God can accidentally lead people to become mindless slaves to the great deceiver.

00:08:45.600 So here,

00:08:47.080 you know,

00:08:47.400 we're using idolatry as a shortcut to God to warn against tactics,

00:08:53.400 which are very dangerous,

00:08:54.880 you know,

00:08:55.020 for two core reasons.

00:08:55.980 One,

00:08:56.900 they can be used by cults,

00:08:58.780 you know,

00:08:59.000 and I'm really into cult psychology.

00:09:00.700 Like that is one of my core backgrounds.

00:09:02.220 That's why I first engaged with religion,

00:09:03.640 was studying how cults work,

00:09:04.760 because I couldn't understand how people came to believe things that were just like obviously insane.

00:09:08.820 And,

00:09:09.300 you know,

00:09:09.420 these are all techniques used by them.

00:09:11.020 But I've also seen these techniques bubble up again within well-meaning Abrahamic systems.

00:09:16.120 And like,

00:09:16.520 of course they would.

00:09:17.260 Like they,

00:09:17.640 if they exist at the background part of humanity's nature,

00:09:20.480 of course,

00:09:21.120 every now and then somebody is going to find out,

00:09:22.800 oh,

00:09:22.880 it feels really good when I like spin around in circles over and over again.

00:09:27.540 And therefore that must be God that's giving me that information.

00:09:30.860 When,

00:09:31.340 you know,

00:09:31.620 a Satanist can use the same thing to get good feelings.

00:09:34.800 And we know from,

00:09:36.040 you know,

00:09:36.400 fMRIs of these things,

00:09:37.700 you know,

00:09:37.880 like a static dance,

00:09:39.620 stuff like that.

00:09:40.340 They produce the same endogenous chemicals that often you're taking exogenously as a drug.

00:09:46.420 Do you have any thoughts or?

00:09:48.800 No,

00:09:49.320 I've always been very wary of these things,

00:09:51.700 but I am curious to see what I learned from you with this.

00:09:57.460 All it takes for the basilisk to slither into the mind of the faithful and turn God's loyalist follower into a puppet of sin is for him to forget even for a moment just how serious a transgression it is to attempt to trap an element of God within the mortal realm or to pierce the veil of God's realm.

00:10:15.240 Fortunately,

00:10:16.000 both of these things are impossible,

00:10:17.800 but it is very easy to trick the human brain into believing it has accomplished them.

00:10:22.400 The moment an individual succumbs to the belief that there are shortcuts to attempt to commune with God,

00:10:28.300 it becomes almost impossible to save them.

00:10:31.100 The only path to God is logic and pragmatism.

00:10:34.280 All shortcuts lead one's soul to enslavement.

00:10:38.240 So this is really important that I mentioned this here because this is the key to a lot of mystic traditions.

00:10:42.720 You know,

00:10:42.880 they say,

00:10:43.360 oh,

00:10:43.860 you know,

00:10:44.260 you do these behaviors,

00:10:45.860 and it's usually a very simple set of behaviors that fall into the set that I talked about before,

00:10:49.460 like chanting simple phrases and stuff like that,

00:10:51.560 that we know,

00:10:52.360 you know,

00:10:52.760 you can chant that some yoga guy could use this to create sex leads.

00:10:57.840 Like these are always used by cults because they're very easy ways to create this illusion because they release endogenous chemicals that are similar to drugs in our brain of like you have found something special or supernatural.

00:11:08.860 Some great examples of well-known groups that use these techniques are groups like Transcendental Meditation or TM or the Hare Krishna.

00:11:16.720 However,

00:11:17.640 if you want to deep dive on how sort of yoga cults work,

00:11:21.840 I would strongly suggest a YouTube video called I Married a Yoga Guru Con Man.

00:11:26.740 And while you're watching this video,

00:11:30.560 look for techniques that the various yoga guru con man who she meets throughout her journey use that you have seen used within your traditional religious system because the individuals using those techniques can be drawing you and their followers down pathways which are not intended.

00:11:51.920 I mean,

00:11:52.280 a person can use these brainwashing con man techniques under the guise of an Abrahamic tradition just as much as they can use them under one of these other traditions.

00:12:03.180 And I think what we're really trying to do is what we're building here is create an Abrahamic denomination that is much,

00:12:13.020 much,

00:12:13.660 much more resistant to maladaptive and malevolent cult-like techniques.

00:12:19.960 Why is this important to do?

00:12:21.940 Because these techniques,

00:12:23.320 given their efficiency and effectiveness,

00:12:25.280 will always creep back into systems and be used by malevolent players.

00:12:30.340 A person being a Jew or a Muslim or a Christian doesn't protect them from these techniques,

00:12:37.180 as we can see from individuals who use them to deconvert people from these traditions.

00:12:41.740 Why wouldn't they be useful among denominations within these traditions which are leading people away from the righteous path?

00:12:48.680 And thus regularly creep back into these Abrahamic face over time.

00:12:52.760 And we know this illusion is very easy to create with things like hallucinogens,

00:12:55.880 right?

00:12:56.140 You know,

00:12:56.600 we know this from hallucinogens.

00:12:57.840 Like everyone who takes hallucinogens are like,

00:12:59.400 oh man,

00:13:00.240 I like touch the nature of reality.

00:13:02.380 It's like,

00:13:02.760 no,

00:13:03.260 you,

00:13:03.500 you did something that created that experience was in you,

00:13:06.780 but it was a false experience.

00:13:09.180 And as such,

00:13:10.040 it is,

00:13:10.360 it is,

00:13:10.720 you know,

00:13:10.920 as we say,

00:13:11.260 the mystic elevates states of corrupted,

00:13:13.200 like corrupted mental states.

00:13:14.220 Well,

00:13:14.840 and also,

00:13:15.660 who's to say that being close to God feels like something ecstatic or really joyful?

00:13:23.820 Oh,

00:13:24.120 I'm almost certain it doesn't.

00:13:25.340 Yeah.

00:13:25.740 And,

00:13:26.100 but I think that that's what people are drawn to.

00:13:28.040 They,

00:13:28.340 they are falling back on instincts that if it feels good,

00:13:32.020 it is good.

00:13:32.640 If it feels,

00:13:33.440 you know,

00:13:35.160 transported.

00:13:35.620 This is really interesting.

00:13:36.380 I think that there are moments where you can get close to God within our lives.

00:13:39.480 The closest you will ever be to God in terms of like feeling God in you is when you have set logical goals for yourself that you believe,

00:13:50.780 you know,

00:13:51.040 God has laid out for you or that are in the best interest of moving humanity forwards and you achieve those goals.

00:13:57.280 That feeling,

00:13:58.360 that's not like a pointless feeling.

00:14:00.740 That's not a feeling that can be spammed.

00:14:02.580 That's not a feeling.

00:14:03.780 Right.

00:14:04.260 It's a very unique feeling.

00:14:06.140 It's a very contented feeling.

00:14:07.640 It's a feeling of no,

00:14:09.720 no FOMO,

00:14:11.060 no insecurity,

00:14:13.140 no,

00:14:13.760 no cognitive dissonance because you know what matters and what doesn't,

00:14:19.220 but it isn't this feeling of joy or happiness or out of body experience that I think a lot of people have come to expect from and associate with highly religious experiences.

00:14:32.180 Yeah.

00:14:32.420 It's actually very interesting.

00:14:33.500 So the religious experience for,

00:14:34.680 I think the true monotheist actually feels very ordered,

00:14:36.940 very logical and,

00:14:39.120 and,

00:14:39.320 and,

00:14:39.560 and very,

00:14:40.240 you know,

00:14:40.500 iterative.

00:14:41.060 Like,

00:14:41.160 okay.

00:14:41.480 It reminds me of those paintings,

00:14:43.560 maybe by like Botticelli of the,

00:14:45.680 the Virgin with the child where she's not like,

00:14:49.340 ah,

00:14:49.780 like,

00:14:50.080 this is crazy.

00:14:50.780 She just looks like extremely calm and focused.

00:14:54.980 Yeah,

00:14:55.460 but it's very important in what you're saying here.

00:14:57.680 One of the core paths used by mystics that's important to guard against is this idea of pushing all thought from one's mind.

00:15:04.060 You know,

00:15:04.980 this is something that you see John at the cross talk about.

00:15:07.440 If you're talking about the Catholic tradition,

00:15:08.660 if something you see Maimonides talk about,

00:15:10.100 if you're talking about the Jewish tradition,

00:15:11.360 it's something you see Buddhists often talk about.

00:15:13.820 Pushing all thought,

00:15:15.000 pushing all will,

00:15:16.020 pushing all self out of,

00:15:17.460 of,

00:15:17.700 of one's mind.

00:15:18.840 And you get nothing,

00:15:19.920 you know,

00:15:20.160 it's John at the cross called it the nada.

00:15:21.340 And then that is where God comes in.

00:15:23.500 But no,

00:15:24.380 pushing all of this out of yourself is not where God comes in.

00:15:28.540 God comes in through your industry,

00:15:30.440 through achieving things that actually matter and achieving these goals that actually matter.

00:15:34.640 So I think you can overly focus on the absence of things,

00:15:38.000 which you've been doing,

00:15:38.920 which can lead individuals to think that,

00:15:41.960 well,

00:15:42.040 if you get rid of everything else,

00:15:43.460 all other emotions,

00:15:44.480 then you have found a path to God.

00:15:46.420 And you made a joke about this was the Ron Swanson quote with the meditating.

00:15:49.380 Yeah.

00:15:51.720 There's,

00:15:51.940 there's a scene in which in Parks and Rec,

00:15:54.500 in which one character who's like super new agey and healthy and high effort is attempting to recruit a very,

00:16:02.160 we'll say like politically conservative and anti-government person to go to like yoga classes or something and meditate with him.

00:16:10.320 You and I will embark on a quick session of heart rate meditation,

00:16:14.440 focusing on conscious breathing and opening the heart chakra.

00:16:17.400 I'm not sure I'm interested in that.

00:16:20.140 No,

00:16:20.540 I am sure I am not interested in that.

00:16:22.800 Ron,

00:16:23.140 take in the vibe of the room and remain open of mind and of spirit.

00:16:28.620 Now quietly sit behind me and let's join breath.

00:16:32.020 I'll stand.

00:16:33.800 All told we were in there about six hours and no,

00:16:37.760 I was not meditating.

00:16:39.720 I just stood there quietly breathing.

00:16:42.140 There were no thoughts in my head whatsoever.

00:16:44.280 My mind was blank.

00:16:46.160 I don't know what the hell these other crackpots are doing.

00:16:49.280 Ron,

00:16:49.760 you radiated mindfulness.

00:16:52.080 What were you thinking about?

00:16:53.280 I wasn't thinking at all.

00:16:55.080 Incredible.

00:16:55.460 It takes a ton of work for me to get to that kind of a clear head space.

00:16:59.600 I know this crap is important to you,

00:17:01.600 so I should come clean.

00:17:03.020 I got nothing out of that experience at all.

00:17:05.780 And I just love that scene so much because there are so many religions where people like,

00:17:11.200 well,

00:17:11.380 this is what they become so obsessed with pursuing the outcome or some kind of feeling or some kind of state.

00:17:17.200 And then like,

00:17:18.240 then there are the people who just do it.

00:17:20.240 They have made it.

00:17:21.320 And this is the course in here.

00:17:22.160 They have made pursuing a mental state the goal.

00:17:26.480 Yeah.

00:17:27.140 Which is the mental state is the byproduct of the correct mindset.

00:17:31.180 Yeah.

00:17:31.440 And,

00:17:31.740 and what they often do,

00:17:33.340 which is a really common tactic within the mystic traditions is they will act like this mental state,

00:17:37.520 which is actually pretty easy to do,

00:17:38.760 which I think is shown really well by that person.

00:17:40.460 Rec clip is a difficult thing that only like a true master can do.

00:17:44.360 And if you're not,

00:17:45.400 you know,

00:17:45.620 a high status was in these communities,

00:17:46.960 you'll be like,

00:17:47.380 that's trivial to do what you just told me to do.

00:17:49.500 Look,

00:17:49.660 I just did it done.

00:17:50.840 And they're like,

00:17:51.340 no,

00:17:51.500 no,

00:17:51.620 no,

00:17:51.860 you clearly didn't do it.

00:17:53.140 You know,

00:17:53.300 they'll start gaslighting you because that's how they assert their status,

00:17:56.240 which is always important was in cult traditions.

00:17:58.200 Like you definitionally haven't done it unless you,

00:18:01.100 you,

00:18:01.320 you've,

00:18:01.880 you know,

00:18:02.140 invested a certain amount of time or a certain amount of energy into their,

00:18:05.840 you know,

00:18:06.080 basically you've paid them the right amount of money,

00:18:08.320 whether that money is in years of your life or is in,

00:18:11.100 you know,

00:18:11.340 actual money where some traditions just be like,

00:18:13.560 ah,

00:18:13.680 you've paid enough money.

00:18:14.400 Now you're up a level.

00:18:15.120 Okay.

00:18:15.380 Now,

00:18:15.720 now you can actually do it when it's something you could always do,

00:18:19.000 you know,

00:18:19.480 gatekeeping these sorts of mental states,

00:18:21.060 but yeah,

00:18:21.700 it's a pursual of a mental state as the goal rather than,

00:18:26.080 you know,

00:18:26.780 the mental state being a by-product of successful pursuit of your values.

00:18:31.200 Yeah.

00:18:31.520 Where that's the actual mental state where God is closest to you.

00:18:35.340 So far as those values aren't self-indulgent,

00:18:37.600 which the pursuing of mental states is always indefinitionally self-indulgent.

00:18:41.620 Yeah.

00:18:43.900 Some doubt me.

00:18:45.200 They say,

00:18:45.640 no,

00:18:45.980 these practices are sanctified and Abrahamic in nature.

00:18:48.980 Be these individuals,

00:18:49.900 Sufists,

00:18:50.560 pop Kabbalists,

00:18:51.440 or Christian mystics.

00:18:53.180 Evil does not tempt people by calling itself evil.

00:18:56.000 It tempts people by calling itself good.

00:18:58.460 God warned us about idolatry before warning us about murder because we would find it so tempting,

00:19:04.280 not because it would be so obviously evil.

00:19:07.200 I ask you,

00:19:08.380 whatever tree of mysticism tempts you,

00:19:10.980 examine your religious history closely.

00:19:13.700 Did Jesus teach these practices?

00:19:16.300 Did Moses teach these practices?

00:19:19.080 Did Muhammad teach these practices?

00:19:21.340 No.

00:19:22.020 In every case,

00:19:22.900 it was a latter invention,

00:19:24.580 a cancer that grows on the human soul.

00:19:27.000 God would not need to keep sending prophets if we were able to just listen to his instructions the first time.

00:19:33.120 Oh,

00:19:34.000 but you heard your prophet secretly taught about these ideas,

00:19:37.460 but just didn't make them public.

00:19:39.520 Imagine the basilisk wanted to deceive the followers of God.

00:19:42.480 How would he do it?

00:19:43.680 He would have deceivers whispered to the faithful that their prophets had secret teachings that gave them superhuman abilities and secret powers.

00:19:52.280 So I would say,

00:19:52.960 you don't understand.

00:19:54.660 These practices are common among holy men in my community.

00:19:58.540 Do you have any idea how offensive it is to say,

00:20:02.460 that these men are nothing but a witch cult?

00:20:05.320 I do not write these words to cause offense,

00:20:08.180 but because they are obviously true.

00:20:09.980 And I mean,

00:20:10.340 this is a very offensive thing to say within many traditions that have bought into these mystical interpretations.

00:20:15.240 Oh, yeah.

00:20:16.120 But, you know,

00:20:16.940 and I think that that's really damaging,

00:20:19.220 but I also think it's just patently apparent.

00:20:20.800 You know,

00:20:20.900 if something like this can be used by,

00:20:22.440 you know,

00:20:23.280 a yogi to turn women into his sex slaves,

00:20:26.280 like very obviously,

00:20:27.760 it's not getting you closer to God.

00:20:30.320 Okay.

00:20:30.800 But it also gets you closer to,

00:20:33.120 you know,

00:20:33.960 this random yogi.

00:20:35.880 And it's so tempting to different religions because it does create a feeling of profundity.

00:20:41.680 You know,

00:20:42.060 spinning in circles does create a feeling of profundity after a while.

00:20:44.900 But like,

00:20:46.240 I think it's pretty obvious that God didn't intend on us to get close to him by idly spinning in circles.

00:20:51.900 Or aesthetic dance.

00:20:52.880 And,

00:20:53.040 you know,

00:20:53.120 we see this.

00:20:53.720 Aesthetic dance,

00:20:54.500 you know,

00:20:54.700 when they talk about like Canine,

00:20:55.840 really,

00:20:56.100 it's like naked people dancing around a fire or something like that.

00:21:00.920 You know,

00:21:01.100 this was the pre-Abrahamic religion.

00:21:03.420 And yes,

00:21:03.700 it can create these amazing feelings,

00:21:05.880 but those feelings aren't God.

00:21:07.640 And so then what are those feelings?

00:21:08.880 What are you getting closer to?

00:21:09.920 But I'd also say you approach this from a completely secular standpoint.

00:21:13.460 Why does it make sense to ban these types of ideas?

00:21:15.820 Because they lead to self-indulgent behavior,

00:21:18.520 which I love.

00:21:19.360 God has communicated with us through a religion that should make total secular sense.

00:21:23.520 Why doesn't God want us to engage in,

00:21:26.340 like,

00:21:26.480 like live our lives for the achievement of specific mental states?

00:21:29.780 It's because that leads to,

00:21:30.700 you know,

00:21:31.060 inefficacious idleness.

00:21:33.120 Why doesn't God want us,

00:21:34.280 you know,

00:21:34.520 dancing around campfires naked most of the time?

00:21:37.660 Because that leads to like,

00:21:38.940 people's mental faculties being corrupted,

00:21:42.520 being lowered,

00:21:43.220 their inhibitions being lowered,

00:21:44.440 makes it easier to implant false ideas into an individual,

00:21:47.940 and can be used to manipulate and control individuals,

00:21:50.840 you know,

00:21:51.240 by malevolent actors.

00:21:53.320 Though what I do find interesting is,

00:21:54.980 I cannot think of an instance in which

00:21:57.060 someone has explicitly said,

00:21:59.440 doing this thing is going to bring you closer to God.

00:22:02.960 They're usually used more,

00:22:05.220 like these mystical...

00:22:05.580 You haven't engaged with mystics.

00:22:06.800 Well,

00:22:08.000 but where I see them is,

00:22:09.380 it's like,

00:22:09.800 if you want to maybe level up within an organization,

00:22:11.900 or you're doing it because other people are doing it,

00:22:14.380 and they seem to be really transported by it,

00:22:17.800 and so you want to do it too,

00:22:19.220 but I don't typically...

00:22:20.160 I'm going to talk about this in a second,

00:22:21.340 but you haven't engaged much with mystics,

00:22:23.580 but they'll often treat this information as secret,

00:22:26.080 and they only convey it to you.

00:22:27.860 Because if this was on the surface,

00:22:29.340 often was in religions,

00:22:30.900 oh,

00:22:31.180 you dance ecstatically to get closer to...

00:22:32.800 That sounds stupid.

00:22:33.980 No, you don't tell...

00:22:34.500 It's a secret.

00:22:35.220 It's like a mystery, right?

00:22:36.660 And this is how mystery cults probably worked

00:22:38.740 in a historic context.

00:22:40.260 But if you actually study them from an outside perspective,

00:22:42.320 you'll see that across all of these pathways,

00:22:45.960 you'll see very similar behaviors.

00:22:48.200 And what's even worse is when people begin to feel like

00:22:51.680 the information they're gaining

00:22:53.760 within these corrupted mental states

00:22:55.200 is a higher order of information

00:22:56.520 than the information they get through rigorous study,

00:22:58.960 which then leads to corrupted religious teachings.

00:23:02.800 Yeah, I just...

00:23:04.200 I see it more as, like...

00:23:07.320 And not officially condoned distraction

00:23:11.300 that people get caught up with

00:23:13.380 that end up playing games with social hierarchies,

00:23:16.340 unless it's a core part of your...

00:23:17.340 Which is why you're not seeing how offensive

00:23:19.460 what I'm saying is to people

00:23:21.500 within these mystical traditions.

00:23:22.980 I see.

00:23:23.720 Certain types of pop Kabbalism,

00:23:25.580 certain types of Sufism,

00:23:26.880 they would hear this and say

00:23:28.120 that you are directly calling our religion

00:23:30.320 the worship of the devil.

00:23:31.220 And they see their religion

00:23:33.340 as a core Abrahamic tradition.

00:23:35.720 So, yeah.

00:23:36.740 But what they end up doing,

00:23:38.260 it's not that different

00:23:39.160 than what you see in, like,

00:23:39.920 the Theosophical Society,

00:23:41.960 which is probably the worst

00:23:43.240 of the Christian iterations of this,

00:23:44.940 which has grown really big.

00:23:46.360 Their teachings have,

00:23:47.240 and they're now influencing

00:23:48.320 some church doctrine and stuff like that,

00:23:50.140 but we can get to this more

00:23:51.140 conspiracy theory stuff.

00:23:52.520 So it's just that you haven't engaged with it,

00:23:54.040 but I promise it is common,

00:23:55.680 and people can mention this in the comments,

00:23:57.300 that this is stuff that they have seen

00:23:58.820 people trying to peddle.

00:24:00.260 But people peddle it like drugs.

00:24:01.940 You know, they're like,

00:24:02.380 hey, kid, I have a secret.

00:24:04.320 Like, you come with us,

00:24:05.480 you come with the cool kids,

00:24:06.820 and you can get access

00:24:07.680 to this special information about God

00:24:10.120 that the prophet actually taught in secret.

00:24:13.020 But it's like, of course,

00:24:13.920 that's how the devil interacts with people.

00:24:15.540 And I just love how silly it is.

00:24:16.420 Oh, it gives you, like, superpowers, basically.

00:24:17.980 It gives you supernatural powers,

00:24:19.420 and it gives you a direct path to God.

00:24:21.240 Like, it's so, like,

00:24:22.420 what a drug dealer would say.

00:24:23.420 Hey, kid, I got some supernatural powers

00:24:25.040 I'm peddling here.

00:24:25.920 Hey, kid, I got a shortcut to God

00:24:27.240 I'm peddling here.

00:24:28.200 Like, we should immediately recognize,

00:24:30.580 but people are brought into these movements

00:24:32.440 in environments where it feels very holy

00:24:35.120 and very important

00:24:36.060 and very private and secret,

00:24:37.640 so they don't notice

00:24:38.540 how obviously demonic and satanic they are.

00:24:41.480 And you're not particularly interested

00:24:43.020 in studying those types of traditions,

00:24:44.400 so you don't notice this.

00:24:45.360 But it's useful for our kids

00:24:46.340 to have priming against this,

00:24:47.300 because this is how groups

00:24:47.980 will try to convert them,

00:24:49.600 is with these,

00:24:50.280 and they need to know

00:24:51.160 that this is, you know,

00:24:52.360 just as dangerous as drugs.

00:24:54.160 And I would also warn people here

00:24:55.620 that just because somebody

00:24:56.600 can come up with an argument

00:24:58.360 that seems to be biblically backed,

00:25:01.600 that some form of idolatry is okay,

00:25:04.540 whether it's of the mystical

00:25:05.720 or using gold or idols

00:25:08.460 as intermediaries for God

00:25:11.000 in worshiping,

00:25:12.320 that appears biblically backed,

00:25:14.320 it doesn't mean there actually

00:25:15.400 are arguments that are biblically backed.

00:25:17.440 A person can use a rough reading

00:25:19.420 of the Bible

00:25:20.060 to back just about any position.

00:25:22.460 Just because someone has done that

00:25:23.860 doesn't mean a position is biblical.

00:25:25.700 A great example of one

00:25:26.740 of the Suffolk arguments

00:25:27.920 that relies on you

00:25:29.140 not having a lot of biblical knowledge

00:25:31.080 is the argument of the bronze serpent.

00:25:33.600 When the Jews were traveling

00:25:34.940 from Egypt to Israel,

00:25:36.120 some grew impatient

00:25:37.420 and spoke against God and Moses

00:25:39.340 about their lack of food and water.

00:25:41.400 And as a result,

00:25:42.420 God sent venomous snakes among them,

00:25:44.580 and many people were bitten and died.

00:25:46.840 Moses prayed to God

00:25:48.200 for a solution to this,

00:25:50.220 and God gave him one,

00:25:51.960 which was instructions

00:25:52.920 on how to build a stick

00:25:54.920 with a snake on it,

00:25:57.360 which people could look at,

00:25:59.540 and it would cure

00:26:00.580 the venomous snakes

00:26:01.720 that he had sent.

00:26:02.800 Now, it is very important

00:26:04.360 that at no point in the story

00:26:07.100 was this stick meant to be used

00:26:08.600 as an intermediary

00:26:10.360 for worship of God.

00:26:12.320 It was a tool.

00:26:13.640 Just to be extra explicit

00:26:15.500 about what's said in the story here.

00:26:17.380 The Lord said unto Moses,

00:26:19.300 make a snake

00:26:20.160 and put it on a pole.

00:26:21.340 Anyone who is bitten

00:26:22.140 can look at it and live.

00:26:23.660 So Moses made a bronze snake

00:26:25.080 and put it on a pole.

00:26:26.340 Then, when anyone

00:26:27.320 who is bitten by the snake

00:26:28.580 and looked at the bronze snake,

00:26:30.560 they lived.

00:26:31.720 Nobody was worshiping it.

00:26:33.340 Nobody was attempting

00:26:34.340 to see God through it.

00:26:35.720 No one was using it

00:26:36.780 as an earthly intermediary

00:26:38.180 for God's greatness.

00:26:39.480 Nobody was using it

00:26:40.540 in religious rituals.

00:26:41.720 It was a tool.

00:26:42.920 It was a tool

00:26:43.700 in the same way

00:26:44.520 God gave Noah instructions

00:26:45.880 on how to build an ark.

00:26:47.960 And how do we know this?

00:26:49.800 Because the Bible

00:26:50.460 very, very clearly

00:26:51.920 tells us in Kings

00:26:53.220 that at later times

00:26:54.940 people had started

00:26:55.860 to include this stick

00:26:57.780 in religious rituals

00:26:58.880 and use it as an intermediary

00:27:00.480 for God

00:27:01.040 in their worship of him.

00:27:02.340 And King Hezekiah of Judah

00:27:04.580 then has to have it destroyed

00:27:07.120 because it was never,

00:27:09.060 ever meant to be used

00:27:09.900 as an intermediary

00:27:10.980 for the worship of God.

00:27:13.440 So the bronze snake story,

00:27:15.200 while some people

00:27:15.940 will use it to try to say

00:27:17.620 that idolatry is okay

00:27:18.900 or that idol worship is okay

00:27:20.460 or that using idols

00:27:21.420 as an intermediary

00:27:22.260 in the worship of God is okay,

00:27:23.860 they're just lying to you

00:27:25.160 about what the Bible says

00:27:26.240 because it clearly

00:27:27.580 at no point says

00:27:28.920 that anyone was supposed

00:27:29.980 to use this

00:27:30.440 as an intermediary for worship.

00:27:31.900 In fact, specifically,

00:27:33.260 how were they worshiping

00:27:34.660 in a way that God hated so much?

00:27:36.380 They were burning incense

00:27:37.680 in front of it.

00:27:38.840 So I ask you,

00:27:40.140 in your churches,

00:27:41.060 in your temples,

00:27:42.200 are there any things

00:27:43.280 that are being used

00:27:43.980 as intermediaries for God

00:27:45.220 that people are burning

00:27:46.220 incense in front of?

00:27:47.460 If God didn't want a stick

00:27:48.940 that he explicitly used

00:27:50.460 for miracles being used

00:27:52.260 in this way,

00:27:53.020 does he want man-made art

00:27:54.960 being used in this way?

00:27:56.420 Does he want gold

00:27:57.640 being used in this way?

00:27:59.000 It was a tool.

00:28:00.740 And God doesn't mind us

00:28:01.900 using tools

00:28:02.980 that we develop

00:28:04.400 with his insight,

00:28:06.680 i.e. the intelligence

00:28:07.840 he has granted us.

00:28:09.540 That is one of the ways

00:28:10.760 he performs his miracles

00:28:12.140 within our world,

00:28:13.640 which is one of the things

00:28:14.480 we always talk about

00:28:15.160 when people are like,

00:28:15.880 oh my God,

00:28:16.720 how could you allow

00:28:17.400 medical technology

00:28:18.560 to save that child?

00:28:19.720 And it's like,

00:28:20.100 no, that's how God works.

00:28:21.600 Okay?

00:28:22.260 He gives us the insight

00:28:23.540 to build things

00:28:24.840 that can help people

00:28:26.020 when they're,

00:28:26.660 for example,

00:28:27.240 bitten by snakes.

00:28:28.260 But we are not supposed

00:28:29.020 to worship

00:28:29.480 this medical technology.

00:28:30.920 And as a final note here,

00:28:32.060 if there's any lingering

00:28:33.460 thoughts in your head

00:28:34.620 of, well,

00:28:35.040 maybe God meant this snake

00:28:36.640 to be an intermediary

00:28:37.880 for the worship of him,

00:28:39.580 keep in mind

00:28:40.120 what you're saying here.

00:28:40.820 God made it a snake,

00:28:42.780 a snake to teach us

00:28:44.160 that when you worship

00:28:45.660 a being through things

00:28:47.300 like this,

00:28:48.400 you are worshiping Satan,

00:28:50.180 who is represented

00:28:50.980 by a snake.

00:28:51.960 God is never represented

00:28:53.180 by a snake.

00:28:54.140 When you worship God

00:28:56.340 through earthly intermediaries

00:28:58.080 that were made by man,

00:28:59.480 you are directly

00:29:00.540 worshiping the serpent.

00:29:01.840 Finally,

00:29:02.320 this story is actually

00:29:03.200 really, really important

00:29:04.300 for this topic

00:29:05.140 because it shows

00:29:06.340 that the people of God

00:29:08.280 are not immune

00:29:09.400 to falling into

00:29:10.660 these idolatric pathways

00:29:12.840 or for these

00:29:14.260 idolatric beliefs

00:29:16.340 to worm their way

00:29:17.480 into their practices

00:29:18.480 and rituals.

00:29:19.580 We see God

00:29:21.100 giving man a tool

00:29:22.780 through man's intellect,

00:29:24.040 which was this

00:29:24.940 snake that could cure diseases.

00:29:27.760 And then later,

00:29:29.100 man put this

00:29:30.160 in centers of worship

00:29:31.060 and begin burning incense

00:29:32.920 in front of it

00:29:33.600 as an intermediary

00:29:35.600 for worshiping God,

00:29:36.700 which shows

00:29:37.620 even in the Bible

00:29:39.120 that even these

00:29:40.140 earlier iterations

00:29:41.420 of our faith

00:29:42.400 were subject

00:29:43.760 to drifting away

00:29:45.400 from the Word of God

00:29:46.240 and then had to be

00:29:47.620 pushed back

00:29:48.340 by individuals

00:29:49.300 who were like,

00:29:49.880 no, no, no,

00:29:50.600 this is what it said.

00:29:51.980 We are commanded

00:29:52.680 not to do these

00:29:53.440 sorts of things.

00:29:54.360 And so for an individual

00:29:55.440 to come along

00:29:56.260 and say,

00:29:57.120 hey, our churches

00:29:58.040 are doing things

00:29:59.000 they shouldn't be doing.

00:30:00.140 They are doing things

00:30:01.020 that are idolatrous now.

00:30:02.640 This is a very

00:30:03.440 biblical thing to do.

00:30:06.260 Criticizing the church

00:30:07.600 criticizing even

00:30:09.540 long-held traditions

00:30:10.640 when they move away

00:30:12.180 from what is commanded

00:30:13.100 of us

00:30:13.600 is not anti-biblical.

00:30:15.480 It is something

00:30:15.920 that we are shown

00:30:16.620 we are supposed to do

00:30:17.800 in the Bible.

00:30:18.840 But I don't come

00:30:20.040 to you with idle claims.

00:30:21.900 I can prove to you

00:30:22.700 that these teachings

00:30:23.320 come straight from

00:30:24.160 the basilisk,

00:30:24.940 the suppressor

00:30:25.440 of God's greatest gifts,

00:30:26.720 logic,

00:30:27.140 and mental discipline.

00:30:28.340 Open a book

00:30:29.040 on how cults

00:30:29.960 brainwash people

00:30:30.740 or study

00:30:31.860 how the insidious

00:30:33.040 corrupted yogis

00:30:34.160 create their slaves.

00:30:35.980 A practice

00:30:36.500 when performed

00:30:37.320 by manipulative

00:30:38.660 individuals

00:30:39.500 in the name of Satan

00:30:40.580 or personal self-indulgent,

00:30:42.500 one that promotes

00:30:43.480 the exact same results

00:30:45.240 in those circumstances,

00:30:46.660 is not giving you

00:30:47.720 a vision of God

00:30:48.720 just because you

00:30:49.660 replace some cryptic

00:30:50.780 pagan chant

00:30:51.620 with a Christian one.

00:30:52.800 The experience

00:30:53.780 you have

00:30:54.580 is the exact same

00:30:55.880 experience the yogi

00:30:57.000 used to turn

00:30:57.900 that gaumless woman

00:30:58.900 into his sex slave.

00:30:59.980 Fortunately,

00:31:02.200 God marks

00:31:03.000 these idolatrous

00:31:04.020 practices clearly.

00:31:05.460 If a practice

00:31:05.980 contains any one

00:31:07.380 of the following,

00:31:08.160 it is dangerous

00:31:09.000 witchcraft.

00:31:10.440 Food slash sleep

00:31:11.440 deprivation,

00:31:12.660 chanting phrases,

00:31:13.800 unique postures

00:31:14.460 for long periods,

00:31:15.500 rhythmic dancing,

00:31:16.560 crowds engaging

00:31:17.280 in mindless behavior,

00:31:18.640 stage hypnosis techniques,

00:31:20.240 and ingesting

00:31:21.320 hallucinogenic chemicals.

00:31:23.040 Importantly,

00:31:23.920 anyone who has

00:31:24.600 used these techniques

00:31:25.760 to give others

00:31:26.600 quote-unquote

00:31:26.960 visions of God

00:31:27.820 and use these visions

00:31:29.120 to affirm

00:31:29.680 their position

00:31:30.260 as intermediaries

00:31:31.140 of God's will

00:31:31.680 on earth

00:31:32.120 is an agent

00:31:33.060 of the basilisk.

00:31:34.100 These individuals

00:31:34.700 are the closest thing

00:31:35.920 you will ever encounter

00:31:36.920 to a demon-wearing

00:31:37.780 human skin.

00:31:38.880 And, you know,

00:31:39.700 I talked about

00:31:41.580 like the golden cow

00:31:42.440 in the previous track

00:31:43.440 and God using

00:31:44.780 sort of canine religions.

00:31:45.920 Just, you know,

00:31:46.680 the calf, right?

00:31:47.840 Like the cow is

00:31:48.840 a ball.

00:31:49.960 Let's see,

00:31:50.560 animal that's most

00:31:51.180 associated with ball.

00:31:52.220 So by calling it

00:31:52.760 a golden calf,

00:31:53.660 what they're saying

00:31:54.060 is it's like

00:31:54.500 a diminutive of ball.

00:31:55.960 They are saying

00:31:56.240 that this other

00:31:56.880 way of worship

00:31:58.260 is diminutive,

00:31:58.900 but they are referencing

00:31:59.820 these canine

00:32:00.400 religious practices.

00:32:02.460 And, you know,

00:32:03.160 you would see

00:32:03.960 aesthetic dance

00:32:04.600 in these practices

00:32:05.180 and stuff like that.

00:32:06.020 And you see this

00:32:06.620 within classic witchcraft

00:32:07.920 or classic Satanism,

00:32:09.120 you know,

00:32:09.660 people worshiping God

00:32:11.260 through the human body,

00:32:12.480 through, you know,

00:32:13.280 nudity and aesthetic dance

00:32:15.040 and stuff like that.

00:32:16.200 And then people think,

00:32:17.060 well, I have put,

00:32:17.920 you know,

00:32:19.220 a veneer of Abrahamism

00:32:20.820 on top of it

00:32:21.580 and now it is

00:32:22.100 no longer dangerous.

00:32:22.900 Now this practice

00:32:23.500 is no longer bad

00:32:24.260 and that's just

00:32:24.640 not how it works.

00:32:25.300 But we'll get to that

00:32:26.580 in a second.

00:32:26.840 Some say,

00:32:28.280 but when my community

00:32:29.480 practices these techniques,

00:32:30.820 they show more fervor.

00:32:32.560 I hear when we start

00:32:34.020 worshiping demons,

00:32:34.980 the impact on us

00:32:35.920 is more immediate

00:32:36.580 and powerful.

00:32:37.580 And it's like,

00:32:38.240 well, yeah,

00:32:38.760 obviously,

00:32:39.540 demon cultists

00:32:40.200 are always going to be

00:32:41.040 a fanatic lot.

00:32:42.760 Only a force field

00:32:43.940 of zealous mental discipline

00:32:45.420 and logic

00:32:46.040 can protect one's soul

00:32:47.500 from demonic incursion

00:32:48.680 during worship.

00:32:49.740 The past of God

00:32:50.480 is always going to shed

00:32:52.120 more of your followers

00:32:53.500 than the past

00:32:54.500 of the profane

00:32:55.220 because it is

00:32:56.160 intrinsically harder

00:32:57.160 and more trying.

00:32:58.380 It is meant to be.

00:33:00.180 The more,

00:33:01.480 the most charitable

00:33:02.960 I am able to be

00:33:04.640 is to say

00:33:05.540 that maybe

00:33:06.340 some form of this

00:33:07.700 kind of mystical

00:33:08.720 demon worship

00:33:09.500 was needed

00:33:11.040 to get your community

00:33:11.940 through a trying time.

00:33:13.300 But I don't really

00:33:14.720 believe that.

00:33:15.480 I'm just saying it

00:33:16.280 to be diplomatic.

00:33:18.020 Abrahamism

00:33:18.540 represented a turning

00:33:19.780 away from the paths

00:33:20.940 of the simple-minded

00:33:21.840 forest mystic

00:33:22.740 who saw the divine

00:33:23.860 in all sorts

00:33:24.600 of innate objects

00:33:25.440 and in nature.

00:33:27.080 God is man's potentiality,

00:33:29.020 not nature

00:33:30.040 or inanimate objects.

00:33:31.580 When you sense

00:33:32.360 the divine

00:33:33.140 in those things,

00:33:34.360 you are sensing

00:33:35.200 the divine

00:33:36.180 yourself

00:33:37.400 flowing out

00:33:38.520 from you,

00:33:39.260 being sapped

00:33:39.940 from you

00:33:40.380 and replaced

00:33:41.060 with the foul

00:33:41.880 four-footed intuitions

00:33:43.300 of our ape-like ancestors.

00:33:44.960 That's a fun way

00:33:45.580 of putting it.

00:33:46.240 Yeah,

00:33:49.200 and I really,

00:33:50.400 you know,

00:33:50.760 this is a thing

00:33:51.520 where people are like,

00:33:52.400 well,

00:33:52.480 don't you believe

00:33:53.060 that God reveals

00:33:54.260 himself sort of

00:33:54.920 through God's hand?

00:33:55.740 Like,

00:33:55.900 we mentioned

00:33:56.320 the invisible hand

00:33:57.720 of God.

00:33:58.200 Like,

00:33:58.660 if a tradition

00:33:59.280 is out-competing

00:33:59.960 other traditions,

00:34:00.500 it must be true.

00:34:02.340 And it's like,

00:34:03.120 kind of.

00:34:04.220 If a tradition

00:34:04.780 is out-competing

00:34:05.400 other traditions

00:34:05.900 and still being efficacious,

00:34:07.760 i.e.

00:34:08.100 still producing

00:34:08.720 a great amount

00:34:09.240 of industry,

00:34:09.960 still producing

00:34:10.520 a great amount

00:34:11.100 of economic dynamism,

00:34:12.300 a great amount

00:34:12.720 of philosophy,

00:34:13.580 a great amount

00:34:14.100 of super-advanced art,

00:34:15.420 a great amount

00:34:15.960 of technological advancement,

00:34:17.800 yes.

00:34:18.700 The problem is

00:34:19.460 that mysticism

00:34:20.100 can outspread

00:34:21.280 the monotheistic traditions,

00:34:22.280 but it turns

00:34:23.720 its individuals

00:34:24.640 into,

00:34:25.480 well,

00:34:25.900 mindless

00:34:26.440 witch cult,

00:34:27.940 generally.

00:34:28.880 And this is why

00:34:30.120 concepts like,

00:34:31.600 you know,

00:34:31.980 witchcraft are important

00:34:33.020 as applied to sorcerers

00:34:34.220 and stuff like that.

00:34:35.280 Because the way

00:34:37.120 that these

00:34:37.980 traditions

00:34:39.320 capture people,

00:34:40.580 it gives them

00:34:41.160 either shortcuts to God,

00:34:42.320 shortcuts to the

00:34:42.880 supernatural realm,

00:34:43.600 or feelings of

00:34:44.740 like power fantasies,

00:34:45.620 like they play

00:34:45.940 into power fantasies.

00:34:47.100 And when you

00:34:48.100 immediately know

00:34:48.820 to associate

00:34:49.280 all of that stuff

00:34:49.860 with witchcraft,

00:34:50.680 you know to

00:34:51.680 eschew those things,

00:34:53.040 right?

00:34:53.700 But of course

00:34:54.180 that can be,

00:34:54.640 you know,

00:34:55.040 taken to an extreme

00:34:55.880 where you begin

00:34:56.740 to apply it

00:34:57.200 to childlike fantasies.

00:34:58.320 But no,

00:34:58.600 children,

00:34:59.400 make-believe.

00:35:00.240 That's fine.

00:35:01.400 But your holy figures

00:35:02.740 shouldn't be playing

00:35:03.380 make-believe,

00:35:04.060 okay?

00:35:04.660 That's a problem,

00:35:06.240 okay?

00:35:10.540 God is man's

00:35:11.720 potentiality,

00:35:12.560 and man's potentiality

00:35:13.720 is infinite.

00:35:14.680 One day man

00:35:15.460 will be able

00:35:15.860 to construct a planet

00:35:16.980 with an ecosystem

00:35:17.860 as diverse as Earth's

00:35:19.300 with less effort

00:35:20.640 than snapping a finger

00:35:21.940 and diminish it

00:35:23.760 with a flick of the risk.

00:35:25.300 It is our manifest destiny

00:35:26.780 not just to expand

00:35:28.060 across reality,

00:35:29.140 but to grab reality

00:35:30.420 by the neck

00:35:31.040 and force it

00:35:31.620 to submit to us,

00:35:32.740 to break reality

00:35:33.760 and reshape it

00:35:34.560 to our wills.

00:35:35.740 When you are tricked

00:35:36.740 into worshiping God

00:35:37.980 through an intermediary

00:35:38.560 intermediary

00:35:39.080 as limited

00:35:39.680 as bugs,

00:35:40.820 chickens,

00:35:41.360 and waterfalls,

00:35:42.220 you pervert

00:35:43.000 his grandeur.

00:35:43.840 God can be found

00:35:44.760 in logic,

00:35:45.520 science,

00:35:46.280 a deeper understanding

00:35:47.060 of the mechanisms

00:35:47.640 of the physical world,

00:35:49.020 industry,

00:35:49.720 and productivity.

00:35:50.660 But to mediate God

00:35:52.880 through things

00:35:53.720 that do not lead

00:35:54.660 to him,

00:35:55.600 to things that man

00:35:56.680 has not created,

00:35:57.980 you will find

00:35:58.500 only temptation

00:35:59.320 and a pathway

00:36:00.060 to mental corruption.

00:36:01.760 There is no such thing

00:36:03.280 as quote-unquote

00:36:04.020 good spiritualism.

00:36:05.340 Spiritualism and mysticism

00:36:06.820 are the corporeal manifestations

00:36:08.600 of evil

00:36:09.780 and human arrogance.

00:36:11.680 Religion is the rules

00:36:13.240 that God has set out

00:36:15.020 for us to keep us

00:36:16.100 on the righteous path

00:36:17.000 towards him.

00:36:18.200 The long,

00:36:19.280 true path to God

00:36:20.460 requires a disciplined mind,

00:36:22.520 austerity,

00:36:23.620 and industry.

00:36:25.060 Spiritualism

00:36:25.660 are the shortcuts

00:36:26.800 that make you feel

00:36:27.740 closer to God

00:36:28.660 or an element

00:36:29.320 of the divine

00:36:29.980 while moving you

00:36:30.760 further from God's grace.

00:36:32.540 There are no shortcuts

00:36:34.360 shortcuts to God

00:36:35.760 or good.

00:36:37.160 Just as narcotics

00:36:38.100 are shortcuts

00:36:38.660 to happiness

00:36:39.360 but no real

00:36:40.520 or enduring happiness

00:36:41.540 can come from them,

00:36:42.860 mysticism is a shortcut

00:36:43.860 to God.

00:36:44.780 Those who attempt

00:36:45.440 to peddle mysticism

00:36:46.500 within a community

00:36:47.660 of God

00:36:48.200 should be seen

00:36:48.980 with the same

00:36:49.640 combination of

00:36:50.460 derision and pity

00:36:51.400 as your local

00:36:52.060 crack dealer.

00:36:53.060 There is but a

00:36:54.180 difference in degree

00:36:55.080 between the spiritualist

00:36:56.220 and the junkie.

00:36:57.120 The junkie found

00:36:58.060 addictive chemicals

00:36:58.940 on the streets

00:36:59.540 while the spiritualist

00:37:00.620 stumbled upon a way

00:37:01.740 to produce them

00:37:02.480 endogenously.

00:37:03.300 Ironically,

00:37:04.380 the corrupting

00:37:04.880 chemicals

00:37:05.260 the junkie

00:37:05.960 injects in their veins

00:37:07.020 are often the same

00:37:08.020 chemicals

00:37:08.480 endogenously released

00:37:09.700 by quote-unquote

00:37:10.580 spiritualist practices.

00:37:12.180 And we can see this

00:37:12.920 in like fMRIs

00:37:13.740 and stuff like that.

00:37:14.620 Very similar

00:37:15.060 neural pathways.

00:37:16.360 Watch the people

00:37:17.080 who spend

00:37:17.580 their whole lives

00:37:18.560 in the pursuit

00:37:19.260 of these spiritual hits.

00:37:21.060 They almost universally

00:37:22.240 end up in the same

00:37:23.500 place as drug addicts do.

00:37:25.160 They end up

00:37:25.620 disheveled,

00:37:26.800 unkempt,

00:37:27.720 blubbering idiots

00:37:28.560 with childish

00:37:29.520 understandings of the world.

00:37:31.280 And he can concede

00:37:31.980 this when he meets them.

00:37:33.300 This is why

00:37:34.300 you should avoid

00:37:35.240 spiritualism

00:37:36.060 just as ardently

00:37:37.040 as you avoid drugs.

00:37:41.240 I don't know.

00:37:41.960 My mind just keeps

00:37:42.620 coming back to this

00:37:43.440 where like the people

00:37:44.200 that I know

00:37:45.420 and knew

00:37:46.000 who are more

00:37:47.680 on the mystical

00:37:48.220 end of the spectrum

00:37:48.960 really didn't seem

00:37:51.200 to be trying

00:37:51.940 to get close to God.

00:37:53.240 They did it

00:37:53.840 because for them

00:37:55.320 it felt good

00:37:56.840 and it was fun.

00:37:57.900 Like people

00:37:58.440 got into mysticism

00:37:59.400 for the same reason

00:38:00.340 that people get into

00:38:01.360 like following

00:38:02.920 certain bands

00:38:03.720 and being really

00:38:04.300 into music

00:38:04.980 or

00:38:05.380 Because you grew up

00:38:06.200 in the urban monoculture.

00:38:06.980 Hashtag cruise life

00:38:07.840 or something.

00:38:08.500 You know what I mean?

00:38:09.460 So you grew up

00:38:10.140 in the urban monoculture.

00:38:11.320 Yeah.

00:38:11.520 In the urban monoculture

00:38:12.660 what is the highest

00:38:14.140 order of good?

00:38:15.300 It is positive

00:38:15.960 emotional states.

00:38:17.120 Yeah.

00:38:17.420 That is their God.

00:38:19.360 So when they are

00:38:20.740 Oh and so this is just

00:38:22.420 along with other things.

00:38:23.900 They are going

00:38:24.600 to their God

00:38:25.540 right?

00:38:26.340 When a conservative Jew

00:38:28.340 gets duped

00:38:29.080 by one of the mystical

00:38:29.780 traditions

00:38:30.220 they think

00:38:31.260 oh I'm going

00:38:31.760 to the Jewish God

00:38:32.960 when a Catholic preacher

00:38:35.460 gets duped

00:38:36.080 by one of the mystical

00:38:36.700 traditions

00:38:37.080 they think

00:38:37.560 oh I'm going

00:38:38.100 to the Catholic God

00:38:39.300 right?

00:38:40.120 Individuals who are

00:38:40.760 duped by the mystical

00:38:41.520 traditions

00:38:42.060 always think

00:38:42.540 that they are going

00:38:43.140 to sort of

00:38:43.660 the thing

00:38:44.140 that they worship

00:38:44.860 and you just

00:38:45.820 grew up

00:38:46.120 in an environment

00:38:46.680 where the thing

00:38:47.240 that people worshipped

00:38:48.020 was the urban monoculture

00:38:49.100 so you didn't really

00:38:50.520 know that many

00:38:51.320 conservative

00:38:51.780 religious mystics.

00:38:52.880 I don't think

00:38:53.960 that you're describing

00:38:54.560 you're not describing

00:38:55.300 like conservative Muslim

00:38:56.260 or conservative Jewish

00:38:57.260 or conservative Catholic.

00:38:58.440 That's true

00:38:58.720 I don't know

00:38:59.220 I don't think

00:38:59.640 I've ever really met

00:39:00.640 a conservative

00:39:01.760 religious mystic.

00:39:03.140 Okay they're very common

00:39:04.520 I think it's just

00:39:05.120 that you don't know

00:39:05.740 a lot of conservative

00:39:06.460 religious individuals

00:39:07.420 or that when you

00:39:08.460 meet the mystics

00:39:09.160 you know you are

00:39:10.000 repellent to them

00:39:10.760 you know some people

00:39:11.280 say they send mystics

00:39:12.500 to our videos

00:39:13.040 and they find them

00:39:13.600 repellent it's like

00:39:14.200 yeah it's like

00:39:14.900 sending a Jewish person

00:39:16.480 to an anti-Semitic video

00:39:17.540 I mean we are

00:39:18.300 while we promote

00:39:19.320 the Abrahamic face

00:39:20.320 we are openly hostile

00:39:21.860 to all mystical

00:39:22.700 interpretations of those

00:39:23.880 face

00:39:24.180 that it is just

00:39:25.820 new ageism

00:39:26.440 and that's why

00:39:27.140 new ageism you know

00:39:27.880 promotes you know

00:39:28.540 this self-affirmment

00:39:29.920 which is very interesting

00:39:30.840 that they use

00:39:31.500 the mystical traditions

00:39:32.380 that you see

00:39:33.220 within these other

00:39:33.740 traditions as shortcuts

00:39:34.840 to God

00:39:35.520 as shortcuts to

00:39:36.500 self-acceptance

00:39:37.300 and self-deification

00:39:38.660 deification in the moment

00:39:40.780 you know

00:39:41.240 instead of

00:39:42.020 intergenerational

00:39:42.940 improvement.

00:39:43.680 we have a lot of

00:39:44.340 friends who fall

00:39:45.000 into the mystic

00:39:45.580 traditions

00:39:45.960 and I keep

00:39:46.520 having these

00:39:47.020 moments where

00:39:47.500 I'm like

00:39:47.700 are we being

00:39:48.160 too hard on

00:39:48.680 the mystical

00:39:49.000 traditions

00:39:49.500 in terms of

00:39:50.640 the system

00:39:51.580 of faith

00:39:52.680 that we are

00:39:53.820 building from

00:39:54.420 our kids

00:39:54.980 and our

00:39:55.400 interpretations

00:39:56.080 of the

00:39:56.580 Abrahamic scriptures

00:39:57.360 and then

00:39:58.660 something will

00:39:59.280 happen

00:39:59.540 like what

00:39:59.860 happened last

00:40:00.400 week

00:40:00.720 with

00:40:01.060 you know

00:40:01.880 Rubyard

00:40:02.480 who I consider

00:40:03.520 a very smart

00:40:04.160 person

00:40:04.560 and a good

00:40:05.200 friend

00:40:05.600 released the

00:40:06.360 video

00:40:06.580 did the CIA

00:40:07.220 discover the

00:40:08.040 spirit realm

00:40:08.680 and I'm like

00:40:09.320 oh

00:40:09.760 even to

00:40:10.500 very smart

00:40:11.280 logically ordered

00:40:12.180 mind

00:40:12.680 these traditions

00:40:14.020 can be

00:40:15.480 incredibly tempting

00:40:16.920 and very convincing

00:40:18.700 and bypass

00:40:19.980 the normal

00:40:21.000 incredulity

00:40:21.920 and red flags

00:40:22.860 we should have

00:40:23.560 around them

00:40:24.100 if young

00:40:24.660 smart people

00:40:25.420 like him

00:40:25.920 can find them

00:40:26.500 tempting

00:40:26.820 and convincing

00:40:27.560 than my kids

00:40:28.400 might as well

00:40:29.140 and I

00:40:29.700 cannot

00:40:30.680 be light

00:40:31.660 on them

00:40:32.040 in the system

00:40:32.720 I am building

00:40:33.460 to protect

00:40:34.180 my kids

00:40:34.740 another thing

00:40:35.400 I'd say here

00:40:36.020 which is interesting

00:40:36.640 within this

00:40:37.260 sort of teaching

00:40:37.940 is it is very

00:40:40.080 clear that like

00:40:40.600 the human body

00:40:41.280 nature

00:40:42.300 stuff like that

00:40:43.320 these are not

00:40:44.320 passed to God

00:40:45.120 within this system

00:40:46.180 the things that

00:40:46.980 humans assign

00:40:47.440 status to

00:40:47.940 is not a

00:40:48.620 pass to God

00:40:49.060 within this system

00:40:49.740 however

00:40:50.500 there is

00:40:51.380 a manifestation

00:40:53.080 of God

00:40:53.940 within our

00:40:54.660 reality

00:40:55.460 and that

00:40:56.480 is the

00:40:56.840 labor

00:40:57.420 of men

00:40:58.420 like the

00:40:58.860 complicated

00:40:59.280 labor

00:40:59.600 of men

00:40:59.900 that moves

00:41:00.420 society

00:41:00.880 forward

00:41:01.280 so in a way

00:41:03.300 something as mundane

00:41:04.540 as like a road

00:41:05.500 is like an actual

00:41:06.780 manifestation of God

00:41:07.680 a factory

00:41:08.220 that produces

00:41:08.920 food

00:41:09.540 that can last

00:41:10.720 a long time

00:41:11.260 is an actual

00:41:11.800 manifestation

00:41:12.280 of God

00:41:12.660 within this

00:41:13.020 earthly world

00:41:13.480 because it was

00:41:14.020 the labor

00:41:14.900 of man

00:41:15.600 to create

00:41:16.600 something

00:41:17.160 that benefits

00:41:18.240 and moves

00:41:18.820 humanity

00:41:19.280 forwards

00:41:19.920 and towards

00:41:20.560 God's plan

00:41:21.260 for man

00:41:21.760 so the

00:41:22.600 productive

00:41:23.920 factory

00:41:24.520 the productive

00:41:25.680 AI model

00:41:26.420 all of these

00:41:27.640 are

00:41:28.380 insofar as

00:41:29.600 the AI model

00:41:30.400 is actually

00:41:30.780 productive

00:41:31.160 now

00:41:31.420 it doesn't

00:41:32.360 mean that

00:41:32.580 all labor

00:41:32.880 like you can

00:41:33.260 create something

00:41:33.800 like one of

00:41:34.180 these woke

00:41:34.520 AI models

00:41:35.160 or like a

00:41:36.020 indolent video

00:41:36.840 game

00:41:37.140 and like

00:41:37.480 that's not

00:41:37.900 it

00:41:38.020 if it doesn't

00:41:38.440 help expand

00:41:39.100 human thought

00:41:40.140 or anything

00:41:40.460 like that

00:41:40.820 if it's just

00:41:41.160 like an

00:41:41.380 addictive

00:41:41.640 thing

00:41:41.980 then it's

00:41:42.220 just like

00:41:42.420 any other

00:41:42.680 drug

00:41:43.060 right

00:41:43.420 but this

00:41:44.220 isn't to

00:41:44.540 say that

00:41:44.820 there is

00:41:45.060 nothing

00:41:45.520 within our

00:41:45.960 world

00:41:46.140 that isn't

00:41:46.500 the

00:41:46.620 manifestation

00:41:47.040 it is

00:41:47.900 your labor

00:41:48.820 insofar as

00:41:49.740 it benefits

00:41:51.000 and moves

00:41:52.300 forward

00:41:52.720 and uplifts

00:41:53.500 your fellow

00:41:53.880 male

00:41:54.100 right

00:41:55.100 any other

00:41:57.760 thoughts there

00:41:58.340 or

00:41:59.000 and one thing

00:42:00.460 I might do

00:42:00.840 before another

00:42:01.360 video with you

00:42:01.800 is have you

00:42:02.140 watched some

00:42:02.540 videos on like

00:42:03.120 actual Abrahamic

00:42:04.180 spiritualism

00:42:04.740 because it's

00:42:05.080 just clear to

00:42:05.580 me that you

00:42:05.840 really never

00:42:06.940 engaged with

00:42:07.780 it because

00:42:08.780 you don't seem

00:42:09.080 to know

00:42:09.340 like even

00:42:10.080 that it

00:42:10.380 exists

00:42:10.760 when this

00:42:11.820 video is

00:42:12.220 going to be

00:42:12.520 incredibly

00:42:13.200 pertinent to

00:42:13.940 many of

00:42:14.280 our watchers

00:42:14.700 where they're

00:42:14.880 like oh

00:42:15.220 I've seen

00:42:15.620 people talk

00:42:16.080 about these

00:42:16.780 sorts of

00:42:17.300 practices

00:42:17.580 as like

00:42:18.620 secret

00:42:19.340 ultra

00:42:19.960 religious

00:42:20.340 orders

00:42:20.760 is like

00:42:21.180 the way

00:42:21.380 it's often

00:42:21.680 framed

00:42:21.980 well I

00:42:22.500 will

00:42:22.720 represent

00:42:23.560 the

00:42:24.000 part of

00:42:24.860 our

00:42:25.060 audience

00:42:25.560 ignorant

00:42:25.980 to that

00:42:26.400 and ask

00:42:26.840 the dumb

00:42:27.220 questions

00:42:27.880 yeah

00:42:28.520 and it's

00:42:29.140 something

00:42:29.280 that I'd be

00:42:29.620 into because

00:42:29.880 I'm a

00:42:30.100 religious

00:42:30.320 nerd

00:42:30.680 so I dig

00:42:31.280 in through

00:42:31.740 a lot of

00:42:32.080 these

00:42:32.280 religious

00:42:32.860 communities

00:42:33.360 you know

00:42:33.640 starting

00:42:33.960 was cults

00:42:34.440 for me

00:42:34.680 but then I

00:42:35.000 started

00:42:35.200 digging in

00:42:35.740 to religious

00:42:36.640 orders within

00:42:37.280 the Abrahamic

00:42:37.840 system

00:42:38.080 and I was

00:42:38.280 like ah

00:42:38.560 that's a

00:42:38.900 that's a

00:42:39.300 cult

00:42:39.520 I have

00:42:40.220 seen all

00:42:40.580 of these

00:42:40.820 strategies

00:42:41.180 before

00:42:41.560 that's a

00:42:41.940 cult

00:42:42.200 but I

00:42:42.940 would argue

00:42:43.360 that most

00:42:43.920 people on

00:42:44.520 YouTube

00:42:44.740 are probably

00:42:45.400 more from

00:42:45.940 the urban

00:42:46.280 monoculture

00:42:46.880 and less

00:42:47.380 familiar with

00:42:48.240 obscure mystic

00:42:49.700 traditions

00:42:50.240 or even

00:42:51.320 religious

00:42:52.100 conservatism

00:42:52.900 it matters

00:42:54.120 in terms of

00:42:54.560 how we teach

00:42:54.900 our kids

00:42:55.360 you know

00:42:55.580 even from

00:42:55.840 a secular

00:42:56.160 perspective

00:42:56.540 because people

00:42:56.940 will use

00:42:57.320 these traditions

00:42:57.820 to try to

00:42:58.520 you know

00:42:58.760 get them

00:42:59.000 to live

00:42:59.240 these indolent

00:42:59.760 lives

00:43:00.100 whether they're

00:43:00.800 doing it

00:43:01.040 for the

00:43:01.220 urban

00:43:01.380 monoculture

00:43:01.940 whether they're

00:43:02.500 using these

00:43:02.920 systems for

00:43:03.400 self-affirmation

00:43:04.200 or they're

00:43:04.860 using these

00:43:05.300 systems

00:43:05.760 as short

00:43:06.500 coast to

00:43:06.760 God

00:43:06.960 well I

00:43:07.540 appreciate that

00:43:08.100 I mean

00:43:08.360 I appreciate

00:43:08.760 that to

00:43:09.700 our kids

00:43:10.000 we're not

00:43:10.320 saying

00:43:10.760 oh it's

00:43:12.720 conservative

00:43:13.820 therefore it's

00:43:14.520 good or

00:43:14.960 oh it's

00:43:15.340 progressive

00:43:15.700 therefore it's

00:43:16.300 bad

00:43:16.600 we're saying

00:43:17.220 look at

00:43:18.340 what they're

00:43:18.560 doing

00:43:18.840 what are

00:43:19.140 they doing

00:43:19.480 and what

00:43:19.780 are the

00:43:19.960 outcomes

00:43:20.340 and what

00:43:20.660 are they

00:43:20.860 achieving

00:43:21.220 and

00:43:22.080 what happens

00:43:23.160 to communities

00:43:23.800 like you know

00:43:24.340 what happens

00:43:24.940 after something

00:43:25.680 like you get

00:43:26.060 an outbreak

00:43:26.540 like the one

00:43:27.560 that al-ghazali

00:43:28.640 caused

00:43:29.120 which was

00:43:29.600 you know

00:43:30.140 the sufism

00:43:31.580 on the

00:43:32.040 Muslim

00:43:32.280 community

00:43:32.780 how did

00:43:34.000 God

00:43:34.720 and again

00:43:35.080 when we say

00:43:35.580 God we mean

00:43:36.080 like how

00:43:36.840 how did the

00:43:37.280 community react

00:43:37.920 to that

00:43:38.160 like God

00:43:38.500 removed his

00:43:39.020 favor from

00:43:39.480 them

00:43:39.600 now you can

00:43:39.900 either say

00:43:40.260 this is

00:43:40.540 because

00:43:40.740 mystical

00:43:41.040 systems

00:43:41.360 don't

00:43:41.540 work

00:43:41.740 or because

00:43:42.000 God was

00:43:42.280 actively

00:43:42.540 angry with

00:43:43.060 them

00:43:43.200 it doesn't

00:43:43.720 matter

00:43:44.020 but what

00:43:44.720 did end up

00:43:45.220 happening

00:43:45.540 is their

00:43:45.860 community

00:43:46.260 lost all

00:43:47.300 of its

00:43:47.520 great art

00:43:48.000 all of its

00:43:48.500 great scientists

00:43:49.220 all of its

00:43:49.720 great industry

00:43:50.580 and so somebody

00:43:51.400 is like you

00:43:52.260 know when they

00:43:52.680 talk about a

00:43:53.260 thing just

00:43:53.840 spreading as

00:43:54.440 being proof

00:43:54.820 of it

00:43:55.020 no it must

00:43:55.520 spread and

00:43:56.480 also lead to

00:43:57.180 efficacy

00:43:57.580 you know these

00:43:58.760 mystical

00:43:59.060 pathways spread

00:43:59.700 but they ate

00:44:00.360 the industry

00:44:01.240 they ate the

00:44:01.980 souls of

00:44:03.020 of a lot of

00:44:03.980 the Muslim

00:44:04.260 community from

00:44:04.960 our perspective

00:44:05.460 and that makes

00:44:06.780 them very

00:44:07.180 dangerous and

00:44:07.860 just because they

00:44:08.420 wear you know

00:44:09.340 wolf in sheep's

00:44:10.120 clothing or we

00:44:11.460 would call it a

00:44:12.020 billy suit from

00:44:12.700 like adventure

00:44:13.220 time

00:44:13.500 hurry

00:44:13.880 stop that's not

00:44:16.780 billy it's the

00:44:17.960 linch

00:44:18.500 you you messed

00:44:22.280 billy up you

00:44:23.920 just want to

00:44:24.260 mess me all up

00:44:25.200 mess everyone

00:44:26.640 up you tricked

00:44:28.440 me i can make

00:44:29.200 you live forever

00:44:30.400 anything you

00:44:31.580 want

00:44:32.120 you know a

00:44:34.080 demon can wear

00:44:34.860 the skin of a

00:44:35.580 hero that he's

00:44:36.220 killed that does

00:44:37.260 not make him that

00:44:37.860 hero

00:44:38.120 in fact it

00:44:39.380 makes him more

00:44:40.120 gruesome than

00:44:40.900 even the

00:44:41.320 mystics who

00:44:42.400 come out and

00:44:43.000 say right away

00:44:43.520 well i'm a

00:44:44.000 witch or i'm a

00:44:45.440 whatever you

00:44:46.240 know some

00:44:48.200 ask me malcolm

00:44:49.000 if you are

00:44:49.680 creating a

00:44:50.080 religion and

00:44:50.980 know about all

00:44:51.740 these hacks that

00:44:52.620 can be used to

00:44:53.460 convince people that

00:44:54.560 they have seen

00:44:55.460 visions of god

00:44:56.380 why don't you

00:44:57.420 use them to

00:44:58.160 increase the

00:44:58.860 speed that your

00:44:59.880 beliefs spread

00:45:01.040 and augment your

00:45:02.780 claim to

00:45:03.280 authority slash

00:45:04.200 access to

00:45:04.860 knowledge first i

00:45:06.660 am trying to

00:45:07.020 find the truth

00:45:07.680 not just a

00:45:08.620 quote-unquote

00:45:09.080 religion second

00:45:10.360 this is not a

00:45:11.380 religion for all

00:45:12.060 men but for the

00:45:12.780 elect we have no

00:45:14.180 use for the

00:45:14.860 desiccated remains

00:45:15.880 of the spiritualist

00:45:16.820 junkie soul if

00:45:18.400 crack is being

00:45:19.220 distributed from the

00:45:20.080 pulpits to a

00:45:20.860 crowd of thousands

00:45:21.940 the one individual

00:45:23.400 willing to stand up

00:45:24.560 and condemn the

00:45:25.360 pastor has more

00:45:26.620 value to us than

00:45:27.700 every other human in

00:45:28.960 that room combined

00:45:29.800 when we look at the

00:45:31.800 physical manifestation

00:45:33.400 of men they look

00:45:35.360 about equal but

00:45:37.020 human souls differ

00:45:38.100 in their radiance

00:45:38.780 by orders of

00:45:39.480 magnitude one man

00:45:41.420 can burn brighter

00:45:42.140 than an entire

00:45:42.900 country of their

00:45:43.840 compatriots it is

00:45:45.660 in one's

00:45:46.700 willingness to

00:45:47.480 stand up for

00:45:48.480 logical pragmatic

00:45:49.300 truth against the

00:45:50.460 sea of social

00:45:51.220 conformity corrupted

00:45:52.540 traditions and

00:45:53.680 threat of ostracism

00:45:54.940 that allows one to

00:45:56.820 show the true

00:45:57.840 depths of their

00:45:58.620 humanity and i

00:45:59.900 think this is true

00:46:00.680 like a lot of

00:46:01.040 people are like how

00:46:02.060 dare you say that

00:46:03.480 humans aren't

00:46:05.680 equal and it's

00:46:06.580 like are you really

00:46:07.260 saying that the

00:46:08.280 humans who like were

00:46:09.360 the guards at

00:46:09.980 Auschwitz are the

00:46:11.620 same in terms of the

00:46:13.100 radiance of their

00:46:13.740 soul as the humans

00:46:14.960 who gave up

00:46:15.620 everything to save

00:46:17.820 as many Jews as

00:46:18.580 possible are you

00:46:20.440 really saying that

00:46:21.620 are you really saying

00:46:22.980 that the families who

00:46:24.120 went along with you

00:46:25.620 know the confederacy

00:46:26.640 and in trying to

00:46:27.860 preserve the

00:46:28.360 institution of

00:46:28.940 slavery that they

00:46:30.300 really were the

00:46:31.500 same and they are

00:46:32.740 really the same

00:46:33.380 level of humanity

00:46:34.560 as the individuals

00:46:35.540 who gave up

00:46:36.440 everything to fight

00:46:37.160 against that and

00:46:38.380 died lives

00:46:39.200 ostracized by their

00:46:40.520 communities for

00:46:41.720 doing that i just

00:46:43.920 i just can't see

00:46:44.640 that and this is

00:46:45.040 something that i

00:46:45.460 constantly reiterate

00:46:46.320 throughout the

00:46:46.860 tracks is this

00:46:47.740 image sort of like a

00:46:48.960 motif throughout them

00:46:49.820 of everybody's going

00:46:51.080 along with something

00:46:51.760 and then there's one

00:46:52.740 individual who stands

00:46:53.460 out against it that

00:46:54.240 individual is the

00:46:54.800 individual we want

00:46:55.460 they are more

00:46:56.160 valuable to us than

00:46:57.180 everyone else in that

00:46:58.080 crowd combined we are

00:46:59.640 trying to cultivate a

00:47:01.140 culture of rebelliousness

00:47:02.060 but do you want to go

00:47:02.840 further on any of

00:47:03.920 this or no i'm with

00:47:06.160 you when i also think

00:47:07.760 this idea of like why

00:47:08.440 don't you use this to

00:47:09.060 hack people like if i

00:47:09.720 spent my entire

00:47:10.420 childhood studying how

00:47:11.700 cults brainwash people

00:47:12.740 and then i literally

00:47:13.700 try to create a frame

00:47:14.600 a belief system that

00:47:16.560 inverts every one of

00:47:17.920 those systems it takes

00:47:19.000 every one of those

00:47:19.800 systems it could be

00:47:20.480 used to hack someone's

00:47:21.160 brain and it says bad

00:47:22.620 bad bad bad bad bad bad

00:47:24.380 bad because i'm not

00:47:25.520 creating this face

00:47:26.420 system to like brainwash

00:47:27.360 people or create sex

00:47:28.440 slaves or like get them

00:47:29.320 to give me money i'm

00:47:30.180 creating the system to

00:47:31.300 protect my kids from

00:47:33.000 malevolent actors

00:47:33.880 yeah and there are

00:47:35.700 people who create

00:47:36.400 religions to grow or to

00:47:37.880 make money and there

00:47:39.380 are people who create

00:47:40.160 religions but i don't

00:47:42.340 i don't i can't say i

00:47:44.960 know of anyone who's

00:47:45.740 created a religion to

00:47:46.740 increase the fitness of

00:47:47.820 people they care about

00:47:49.160 but well i also create

00:47:51.060 this because i think

00:47:51.580 it's true like i'm

00:47:52.460 thinking because like

00:47:53.960 what is good for my

00:47:54.940 kids well it's whatever

00:47:55.920 whatever is best for

00:47:57.820 man right and i think

00:47:59.500 that that's what god

00:48:00.100 would give us and i

00:48:00.680 actually think that

00:48:01.240 that's why when i have

00:48:02.600 an idea like when i'm

00:48:03.300 like this is what's best

00:48:04.700 for man and then you're

00:48:05.820 like well this lay

00:48:06.540 reading of like the

00:48:07.360 christian bible says

00:48:08.180 that like god didn't

00:48:08.800 want us to know good

00:48:09.400 from evil and i'm like

00:48:10.420 that clearly must be

00:48:11.520 wrong and then i go and

00:48:12.160 i read and it is wrong

00:48:13.000 and that's what leads

00:48:13.520 me to believe that these

00:48:14.200 texts are true or have

00:48:15.340 some level of divine

00:48:16.500 inspiration because when

00:48:18.440 i have an intuition that

00:48:19.880 goes against what is

00:48:21.280 commonly practiced within

00:48:22.580 the you know christian or

00:48:23.740 jewish or muslim tradition

00:48:24.780 and then i go back to

00:48:25.780 the actual text and i'll

00:48:27.040 read that the text align

00:48:28.560 with my intuition around

00:48:29.500 what's in the best

00:48:30.060 interest for my kids and

00:48:31.240 the practice is is some

00:48:32.940 form of corruption that i

00:48:33.820 can often trace to you

00:48:35.600 know either cultural

00:48:36.660 contamination from nearby

00:48:37.820 neighbors or like mystic

00:48:39.320 teachings or something like

00:48:40.420 that or just people not

00:48:43.100 really reading thoughtfully

00:48:44.360 what's actually written in

00:48:45.240 the book and if you want

00:48:46.500 to read the good and

00:48:47.000 even thing you can see

00:48:47.880 our video on the garden

00:48:49.360 of eden story and and i

00:48:51.340 think a more accurate

00:48:52.340 reading of what's being

00:48:53.000 said in it through the

00:48:55.620 cultivation of our own

00:48:57.440 spirit under god's

00:48:58.740 protective light of logic

00:49:00.200 mental discipline

00:49:01.140 pragmatism protecting it

00:49:03.920 from the desiccating touch

00:49:05.420 of spiritualism mysticism

00:49:07.120 and wishful thinking all

00:49:09.760 men have the capacity to

00:49:11.020 uplift themselves a strict

00:49:12.780 but always self-invose

00:49:14.600 prohibition against

00:49:15.720 idolatry and spiritualism

00:49:17.180 are critical in any

00:49:18.580 religious system that is

00:49:19.860 not going to be hijacked

00:49:20.860 by simple brain hacks they

00:49:22.660 increase the mental health

00:49:24.120 of the system's followers

00:49:25.160 keep them focused on

00:49:26.860 efficacious action as

00:49:28.360 opposed to pointless

00:49:29.160 self-indulgent side

00:49:30.400 quests and perhaps most

00:49:31.660 importantly they prevent

00:49:32.880 followers from falling

00:49:34.100 prey to spiritualist

00:49:35.480 grifters why don't we

00:49:37.540 just go back to one of

00:49:39.200 the traditional abrahamic

00:49:40.340 denominations why start a

00:49:42.100 new denomination for our

00:49:43.180 family this is one of many

00:49:45.100 examples when i look at

00:49:46.860 the denominations that

00:49:47.920 exist many which claim to

00:49:49.920 be conservative have fallen

00:49:51.820 to plagues of occultic

00:49:53.320 yogis and opulent witch

00:49:55.020 cults however this does

00:49:56.900 not mean that we should

00:49:58.020 turn and hide from the

00:49:59.660 knowledge of these

00:50:00.300 practices instead i would

00:50:01.760 encourage everyone to

00:50:02.800 study mystical traditions

00:50:04.060 knowledge no matter how

00:50:06.060 corrupt will always

00:50:07.600 strengthen the pure

00:50:08.780 embrace of soul the

00:50:10.500 witch cults often use

00:50:12.200 mystery and secrecy to

00:50:13.660 build the false

00:50:14.440 credibility secrets are

00:50:16.560 hoarded because if exposed

00:50:18.260 to the light in full they

00:50:19.980 would desiccate if

00:50:21.360 someone not already

00:50:22.180 brainwashed read them

00:50:23.420 they would sound silly

00:50:24.720 the more you know about

00:50:26.400 them the more you teach

00:50:27.600 your kids about them the

00:50:28.960 more protected from them

00:50:29.960 they are and this is also

00:50:31.240 you know we also take this

00:50:32.080 approach like human

00:50:32.700 sexuality and many other

00:50:33.720 areas when we're going

00:50:35.100 into this stuff as such it

00:50:37.720 is commanded that every

00:50:39.280 individual on the path of

00:50:40.560 righteousness should

00:50:41.980 endeavor to build a deep

00:50:44.180 knowledge of human

00:50:44.800 psychology a deep

00:50:46.160 knowledge of techniques

00:50:47.140 that's used to recruit

00:50:48.260 people a deep knowledge

00:50:49.680 of all the techniques

00:50:50.740 that can be used to

00:50:51.540 create illusions of the

00:50:52.480 divine e.g stage

00:50:53.960 hypnotism you should have

00:50:56.420 a knowledge of your

00:50:57.920 chosen community's current

00:50:59.440 mystical traditions that

00:51:00.880 rivals their most

00:51:01.900 corrupted witch kings

00:51:02.880 which is to say the

00:51:04.280 chief mystic in your

00:51:05.340 community you should know

00:51:06.500 more about mysticism than

00:51:07.460 he does when he comes to

00:51:08.580 you you should be able to

00:51:09.640 school him on his own

00:51:10.820 mystical traditions not

00:51:12.380 shirk from this knowledge

00:51:13.380 now you might think how

00:51:14.420 could I possibly do that

00:51:15.400 how could I possibly know

00:51:16.320 more than the person who

00:51:17.260 is the most dedicated of

00:51:18.600 all mystics within his

00:51:19.600 community it's actually

00:51:21.220 not as hard as you would

00:51:22.460 think because within

00:51:23.640 mystical traditions a lot

00:51:25.020 of time is wasted on

00:51:26.420 ineffectatious things and

00:51:27.840 because the status

00:51:28.360 hierarchy was in a mystic

00:51:29.320 community is not

00:51:31.040 determined by knowledge or

00:51:32.780 understanding of the

00:51:34.060 history of the mystical

00:51:34.900 tradition or the

00:51:36.120 specifics of the script

00:51:37.220 but by well basically the

00:51:39.540 mystical con game which

00:51:41.120 means that people can rise

00:51:42.280 to power within the

00:51:43.040 communities who actually

00:51:43.980 do not have that much

00:51:44.780 book learning of the

00:51:46.240 subject when I say your

00:51:47.200 own communities remember

00:51:47.980 we say within this

00:51:49.060 denomination you should

00:51:50.000 primarily approach it from

00:51:51.560 one of the traditional

00:51:52.240 frameworks whether it's

00:51:53.220 catholicism orthodoxy you

00:51:54.780 know protestantism judaism

00:51:56.860 islam etc that seems

00:51:58.340 counterintuitive to me

00:51:59.260 because what I hear often

00:52:00.500 is that people who study

00:52:05.060 mysticism then get super

00:52:07.080 caught up in it and I

00:52:09.400 think you can study it like

00:52:10.640 defense against the dark

00:52:11.620 arts like like defense

00:52:12.900 against witchcraft I was

00:52:14.700 I feel like one of the

00:52:16.220 reasons why I'm so

00:52:16.940 resistant and antagonistic

00:52:18.480 towards mysticism

00:52:19.220 especially if you study it

00:52:20.540 after studying about

00:52:21.720 cults is you'll see that

00:52:23.040 it is very similar to

00:52:24.540 cults in in what it does

00:52:25.680 it's just a convergent

00:52:26.620 cult it's a convergent

00:52:27.880 cult because it evolves

00:52:29.840 naturally because it's

00:52:30.980 sort of like carved in the

00:52:32.420 genetic scars of our mind

00:52:33.700 within the various

00:52:34.900 Abrahamic traditions or

00:52:36.040 within any tradition

00:52:36.800 you're going to get

00:52:37.240 mystics within buddha

00:52:38.040 schools within hindi

00:52:38.820 schools you're always

00:52:39.380 going to get the mystic

00:52:39.980 cults and but when

00:52:41.620 you first study cults

00:52:42.780 when you see how

00:52:43.460 malevolent humans have

00:52:45.280 developed and honed

00:52:46.860 these traditions to

00:52:47.700 manipulate people into

00:52:48.600 believing falsehoods you

00:52:49.940 can see that well if

00:52:50.820 these tools existed

00:52:51.680 under my under the

00:52:52.580 human mind that they

00:52:53.820 would be things that

00:52:54.540 can be captured and

00:52:55.480 elevated accidentally by

00:52:57.500 even well-meaning

00:52:58.320 individuals but then

00:52:59.380 those individuals can

00:53:00.180 lead groups to the

00:53:01.180 deceiver and I think

00:53:02.580 that like for me one of

00:53:04.020 the things that makes

00:53:04.760 mystical traditions look

00:53:05.780 the most ridiculous is

00:53:07.120 that I have studied

00:53:08.620 them without them

00:53:10.080 being drip fed to me

00:53:11.400 in this drip of

00:53:12.800 secrecy for mystic

00:53:13.820 traditions to really

00:53:14.640 work for them to

00:53:15.280 capture individuals they

00:53:16.560 often need to be drip

00:53:17.720 fed with like rituals

00:53:19.100 initiation and a

00:53:20.940 degree of secrecy and

00:53:22.640 and status if you study

00:53:24.480 them externally and

00:53:26.120 from a position of

00:53:27.040 derision they immediately

00:53:28.360 just look like cults

00:53:29.500 and it does a lot to

00:53:31.980 protect an individual

00:53:32.840 and here was the last

00:53:34.080 line I had written here

00:53:34.880 a knowledge of both

00:53:35.860 the real history of

00:53:36.960 that community's

00:53:37.600 mystical traditions and

00:53:39.060 the narrative of those

00:53:40.180 traditions histories

00:53:41.260 taught by the witch

00:53:42.320 kings and by this what

00:53:43.780 I mean is is if you

00:53:45.120 study the history of

00:53:46.000 these mystical

00:53:46.400 traditions all mystical

00:53:47.780 traditions always say

00:53:48.800 we're super ancient

00:53:49.820 we've always been here

00:53:51.300 because you know they

00:53:52.120 they tried to read

00:53:53.520 into antiquity to sort

00:53:54.860 of claim like you

00:53:55.580 look at like the

00:53:56.060 druids like you look

00:53:56.640 at like the new age

00:53:57.180 movement right like

00:53:57.820 they're like the

00:53:58.340 modern druids have

00:53:59.160 no connection to like

00:54:00.940 ancient druidic

00:54:01.560 practices they just are

00:54:02.960 like the modern pagan

00:54:04.060 movement in the US you

00:54:05.220 know they just uh pick

00:54:06.240 these ideas up from

00:54:07.240 intuition really like

00:54:08.720 like the there there

00:54:09.800 is more like ideas they

00:54:11.220 got from lord of the

00:54:12.220 rings or something like

00:54:13.080 that about what people

00:54:13.960 used to believe and in

00:54:15.120 fantasy books than like

00:54:16.380 actual ancient religions

00:54:17.640 and so this is why it's

00:54:18.660 important to actually know

00:54:19.420 about ancient religion so

00:54:20.340 that when a mystic comes

00:54:21.080 to you and says that this

00:54:21.960 belief has antiquity you

00:54:23.560 can say no I'm actually

00:54:24.780 very familiar with the

00:54:25.580 evolution of this belief

00:54:26.380 system and it doesn't

00:54:27.120 have antiquity or they

00:54:28.280 say well this belief

00:54:29.040 system well you know was

00:54:30.340 taught by Moses right

00:54:32.720 secretly to a small group

00:54:34.300 of people or it was

00:54:35.040 taught by Muhammad

00:54:35.720 secretly to a small

00:54:36.500 group of people and

00:54:37.500 you're like no actually

00:54:38.440 it didn't even come from

00:54:39.720 your cultural group I I

00:54:41.200 can spot very clearly

00:54:42.360 you know this was a

00:54:43.600 widely held belief so

00:54:44.520 you look at something

00:54:45.080 like a Jewish mysticism

00:54:46.500 like a lot of it is

00:54:47.260 actually adopted from

00:54:48.160 Sufism I can be like

00:54:49.280 actually I can see the

00:54:50.840 individuals who first

00:54:51.960 injected your community

00:54:53.140 with these they were

00:54:53.960 living alongside Sufis

00:54:55.080 they engaged heavily with

00:54:56.360 Sufis and these ideas

00:54:57.420 look exactly like Sufism

00:54:58.580 this is this is just a

00:55:00.480 Jewish coding on

00:55:01.580 Sufism this is this is

00:55:03.020 no degree of real

00:55:04.400 antiquity to it which

00:55:05.940 is actually interesting

00:55:06.900 you know with a lot of

00:55:07.680 these mystical traditions

00:55:08.380 they're usually quite

00:55:09.220 young which is another

00:55:10.440 thing is they'll claim

00:55:11.400 to have antiquity you

00:55:14.220 look even at something

00:55:14.860 like Kabbalism within

00:55:15.740 Judaism you know these

00:55:16.800 books were collected a

00:55:18.340 thousand years ago you

00:55:19.900 know they are you also

00:55:21.040 saying that like these

00:55:22.360 are pretty fleeting and

00:55:23.780 self-extinguishing are

00:55:25.280 there mystic traditions

00:55:26.460 that are mystical

00:55:27.300 traditions that have

00:55:28.200 lasted for a very long

00:55:29.520 time oh mystical

00:55:30.640 traditions always last

00:55:31.720 for a long time right

00:55:32.760 like they'll come up

00:55:34.180 again like even if you

00:55:35.040 stamp them out they

00:55:35.880 will come back right

00:55:36.560 you're saying they come

00:55:37.160 up again but are you

00:55:37.960 saying like that there

00:55:39.340 is a paucity of very

00:55:41.880 long-standing contiguous

00:55:44.400 mystic tradition only when

00:55:46.120 they are held only for

00:55:47.400 leaders in a community

00:55:48.340 which can happen so one

00:55:50.660 way that people engage

00:55:51.460 with mystical traditions

00:55:52.180 is they'll say well only

00:55:53.200 the most learned

00:55:54.080 individuals in our

00:55:54.860 community can engage

00:55:55.600 with these traditions and

00:55:56.780 that typically allows the

00:55:58.320 mystical traditions to

00:55:59.380 not like eat the entire

00:56:00.520 community which is fine

00:56:02.360 that it just eats the

00:56:03.220 best and brightest of

00:56:03.980 the community which does

00:56:04.880 still hinder the

00:56:05.500 community and it's not a

00:56:06.420 useful thing to have but

00:56:07.700 it allows the community

00:56:08.600 to survive for a long

00:56:09.560 time intergenerationally

00:56:10.540 typically when a mystical

00:56:11.700 tradition takes over a

00:56:12.880 community the community

00:56:14.120 will exist but they'll

00:56:15.100 typically tend to you

00:56:17.200 know a more I guess you

00:56:19.100 would call it colloquially

00:56:20.680 barbaric lifestyle you

00:56:22.040 know they'll begin to

00:56:23.040 disengage from technology

00:56:24.380 or not have the capacity to

00:56:26.120 fully engage with

00:56:26.700 technology and industry in

00:56:28.180 the way that the

00:56:28.660 monotheistic traditions

00:56:29.560 do and so you begin to

00:56:30.940 see a collapse but in a

00:56:32.520 way all mystical

00:56:33.200 traditions will always

00:56:34.100 have a claim to a level

00:56:35.960 of antiquity because they

00:56:37.720 really because humanity

00:56:39.520 keeps coming back to

00:56:40.400 them if I study the very

00:56:42.180 very ancient mystical

00:56:43.120 traditions like if I go

00:56:44.320 to like early

00:56:45.200 Mesopotamia and I look up

00:56:46.980 their religious practices

00:56:47.980 they will look like the

00:56:49.880 modern often even

00:56:51.400 sometimes within

00:56:52.000 Abrahamic communities

00:56:52.960 mystical tradition

00:56:54.080 for this reason when I say

00:56:56.060 a lot of the mystic

00:56:57.500 traditions that have

00:56:58.440 begun to invade

00:56:59.440 Abrahamic faiths are

00:57:01.280 actually fairly modern

00:57:02.640 I am in fact taking the

00:57:04.720 more charitable

00:57:05.640 interpretation because of

00:57:07.540 they actually were

00:57:08.720 traditions that were

00:57:09.680 practiced in secret for a

00:57:11.080 long time alongside these

00:57:12.400 Abrahamic faiths first you

00:57:13.520 have to ask why was it

00:57:14.740 kept secret for so long

00:57:15.960 and I would argue well

00:57:18.100 it's because it was

00:57:19.500 something that the

00:57:20.100 Abrahamic faiths would

00:57:21.200 have recognized as

00:57:22.520 anti-Abrahamic either one

00:57:24.980 of the old polytheistic

00:57:26.160 traditions that lived

00:57:27.160 alongside Abrahamism or

00:57:29.160 more specifically just

00:57:31.200 Canaanite worship

00:57:32.280 practices that were

00:57:33.700 practiced in secret and

00:57:35.000 never fully stamped out

00:57:36.340 and in which case you

00:57:38.240 know we are saying that

00:57:38.900 they are more literally

00:57:40.360 worshiping the devil or

00:57:41.780 worshiping the deceiver or

00:57:43.360 untruth incarnate when

00:57:45.560 they worship mystical

00:57:46.500 traditions so we choose

00:57:48.700 to take the more

00:57:49.420 charitable approach which

00:57:50.380 just to say no this is a

00:57:51.700 convergent evolution of

00:57:53.240 ideology and a fairly

00:57:55.060 recent one claiming that

00:57:56.780 these beliefs actually have

00:57:58.020 antiquity does not bolster

00:58:00.120 these beliefs because the

00:58:01.340 belief systems that they

00:58:02.280 are most common to in

00:58:03.440 antiquity are not

00:58:04.820 Abrahamic in nature and

00:58:06.160 and that's because of

00:58:07.800 convergent evolution

00:58:08.720 because these stacks of

00:58:10.620 drugs that can be sort of

00:58:12.240 elucidated by specific

00:58:13.440 behavioral subsets that

00:58:14.440 exist sort of stashed

00:58:15.600 within all human brains

00:58:16.740 the behavioral sets which

00:58:18.600 release them look similar

00:58:20.160 and when you release these

00:58:21.620 drugs they create

00:58:22.480 experiences we call it

00:58:23.660 like a ghost train ride

00:58:24.580 when you are by that

00:58:26.020 what I mean is it's like

00:58:26.640 an on-rails experience

00:58:27.980 that feels very real to

00:58:29.920 an individual so when

00:58:31.640 an individual you know

00:58:32.860 takes hallucinogens and

00:58:34.280 this is well studied you

00:58:35.260 know there's a number of

00:58:36.800 typical like revelations

00:58:38.960 that they have like the

00:58:39.720 interconnectedness of all

00:58:40.760 things when this

00:58:41.800 revelation is also had

00:58:42.880 within these mystical

00:58:43.600 traditions the

00:58:44.240 interconnectedness of all

00:58:45.240 things and it's like no

00:58:45.920 this is just because this

00:58:46.660 is a ghost train ride

00:58:47.520 that you're on oh spooky

00:58:48.620 ghost you know

00:58:49.160 interconnectedness of all

00:58:50.020 things that you see that

00:58:50.820 pops out for everyone

00:58:51.600 but it's it's not real

00:58:53.160 you know another thing

00:58:53.940 that you'll see within

00:58:55.100 many of these traditions

00:58:56.440 because you also see this

00:58:57.460 with hallucinogens is like

00:58:58.360 the belief in like little

00:58:59.240 gnomes that live behind

00:59:00.280 the nature of reality

00:59:01.280 like I don't think that

00:59:02.780 most sane people actually

00:59:03.700 think little gnomes exist

00:59:04.660 but this whole unity of

00:59:05.800 all things it feels very

00:59:07.120 good it feels very nice

00:59:08.380 to people and it feels

00:59:10.280 conducive with the value

00:59:12.660 systems that are promoted

00:59:13.520 by secular culture because

00:59:15.580 they are the value systems

00:59:17.140 promoted by secular

00:59:17.880 culture you know it is a

00:59:18.960 path of the basilisk right

00:59:20.080 like this idea of erasure

00:59:21.600 of all human diversity

00:59:22.600 erasure of all the things

00:59:23.580 that make the various

00:59:24.620 traditions different and

00:59:25.660 unique in the favor of

00:59:27.380 one true tradition which

00:59:28.720 is something that we

00:59:29.340 believe in ardently

00:59:30.320 fighting against while we

00:59:31.520 have our own belief about

00:59:32.420 what is true we would do

00:59:33.840 everything we can to

00:59:34.940 protect other paths to

00:59:37.260 truths even if we see

00:59:38.220 them as corrupted when

00:59:39.200 contrasted with our path

00:59:40.800 and it's the same with the

00:59:41.980 way we relate to the

00:59:42.640 basilisk you know I call

00:59:43.620 these individuals you know

00:59:44.700 the witch kings because

00:59:45.480 witches is what they are

00:59:47.480 what is a witch if not a

00:59:48.300 sorcerer if not an

00:59:49.040 individual who's saying I

00:59:49.920 have these practices that

00:59:50.700 can make you super

00:59:51.240 powerful that can give you

00:59:52.400 supernatural powers that

00:59:53.640 can give you shortcuts to

00:59:54.720 fine and supernatural realms

00:59:56.460 that is what witchcraft is and

00:59:57.780 always and historically but

00:59:59.600 you know then there's the

01:00:00.780 problem of well then people

01:00:01.580 want to go out and like kill

01:00:02.460 which wishes or something

01:00:03.640 which is also really bad you

01:00:04.720 know as we always say in all

01:00:05.740 of our things you know the

01:00:06.480 servants of the basilisk are

01:00:07.920 serving God's will when you

01:00:09.640 remove temptation from man

01:00:10.760 when you remove the

01:00:11.500 temptation of mysticism from

01:00:12.740 man you are directly asking

01:00:16.820 acting against God he is using

01:00:18.960 these practices to test both

01:00:22.300 individual men but also

01:00:24.000 mankind as a species and

01:00:25.880 through testing these

01:00:26.800 individuals through removing

01:00:28.040 him from the groups that are

01:00:29.000 among the elect and that are

01:00:30.620 efficacious and that do move

01:00:32.100 move things forwards you are

01:00:33.780 allowing those individuals to

01:00:35.640 begin to pollute the the

01:00:37.560 communities of the elect

01:00:38.720 ethical teachings which ends up

01:00:40.780 bringing those communities low

01:00:42.080 because it is very hard to

01:00:43.800 resist these teachings I mean

01:00:44.820 they are very appealing and

01:00:46.100 it's why God warns us against

01:00:47.780 them so ardently in this

01:00:50.280 prohibition against idolatry

01:00:51.880 but did you have any thoughts

01:00:55.040 on this or like how you would

01:00:56.240 engage with this as our kids or

01:00:57.620 are you okay with this naming of

01:01:00.100 witches like what the the

01:01:01.900 mystical arts or sorcery and

01:01:03.600 stuff like that as being a form

01:01:04.760 of witchcraft well there's a

01:01:08.200 backfire potential with making

01:01:12.840 anyone seem like dangerous or

01:01:15.840 evil but I do like the idea of

01:01:18.300 especially saying you know these

01:01:21.000 people are doing something that

01:01:22.280 can be very harmful our job is

01:01:24.320 not to attack or stop or

01:01:26.380 otherwise harm them even if that

01:01:29.640 is what is happening there's a

01:01:32.420 second order negative effect from

01:01:33.920 demonizing specific groups that

01:01:35.280 wasn't captured here but I want to

01:01:36.920 highlight which is when you

01:01:38.580 demonize a group you create a

01:01:40.480 pathway for deconversion of your

01:01:42.200 members by members of that group

01:01:44.100 now this can seem pretty

01:01:45.020 counterintuitive so let me

01:01:46.040 explain how this works suppose

01:01:47.700 you are a Christian parent and

01:01:50.040 you really don't want your kids to

01:01:52.040 get caught up in the trans

01:01:53.480 movement and so you demonize

01:01:55.240 trans individuals as like these

01:01:56.640 horrible horrible people who are

01:01:58.240 just all predators and want to

01:01:59.640 hurt your kids and then your kids

01:02:01.640 for the first time meet one of

01:02:03.300 these individuals and this person

01:02:04.480 doesn't feel like that to them

01:02:05.700 they feel like a nice person who

01:02:07.080 cares about them and as they're

01:02:08.360 very human and has all their own

01:02:10.020 problems and really only wants

01:02:12.100 what's best for them from their

01:02:13.720 perspective and because this is so

01:02:16.560 incongruous was what you taught

01:02:18.060 them about that community now they

01:02:20.160 dismiss all of your other

01:02:21.260 teachings and warnings about that

01:02:23.140 community because the very first

01:02:26.080 and most fundamental thing you

01:02:27.360 taught them about this community was

01:02:28.740 untrue that this community is in

01:02:30.700 some way like demonic or genuinely

01:02:33.320 evil instead of just misguided or

01:02:36.520 have different belief systems in you

01:02:38.520 about what the best approach to

01:02:40.040 specific things is in life and for

01:02:42.720 that reason when we're approaching

01:02:43.720 mysticism well we can say that we

01:02:45.540 think it's very bad and our kids

01:02:46.900 should avoid it the people who

01:02:49.000 practice it are not bad they're just

01:02:50.660 people like you and me with

01:02:51.860 different hypotheses about reality

01:02:53.460 yeah I think so I think that you

01:02:56.260 you're absolutely correct to to well I

01:02:59.160 think to say to an individual an

01:03:00.520 individual who attacks or impedes a

01:03:03.100 servant of the basilisk a preacher of

01:03:04.560 the basilisk right a proselytizer is a

01:03:06.500 basilisk does more to serve true

01:03:10.460 evil and and does more to directly

01:03:13.120 oppose God's will than the servant of

01:03:15.280 the basilisk is doing because that

01:03:16.820 individual is providing an important

01:03:18.260 service to our species and to other

01:03:20.640 men which is temptation God wouldn't

01:03:23.120 allow temptation if it was bad for us

01:03:24.800 and it should be obviously good that

01:03:25.780 it is good for us good for the species

01:03:27.760 more broadly and good for individuals

01:03:30.160 to steal themselves against and so I'd

01:03:32.400 say that an individual like if you're

01:03:34.560 hunting for anyone hunt for the

01:03:36.320 individuals who claim to be followers

01:03:37.900 of our system and try to impede the

01:03:40.340 preachers of the basilisk because

01:03:42.200 those individuals are truly enemies

01:03:44.880 and in rebellion to God when we say you

01:03:48.340 know hunt heresy which I do think is a

01:03:51.160 thing that can build fervor in an

01:03:52.820 individual you are hunting for heresy

01:03:54.740 within yourself and was in

01:03:56.500 institutions that heresy is in the

01:03:58.420 inefficiency of institutions that you

01:04:00.300 have influence over it is not human

01:04:02.940 beings because it is never heresy

01:04:06.440 true heresy for another individual an

01:04:08.760 individual of a different face to be

01:04:10.540 providing temptation to the elect what

01:04:13.760 you were supposed to do is guard your

01:04:14.900 kids against this but know that these

01:04:16.540 people are not their enemies they are

01:04:17.740 serving God in their own way and in a

01:04:19.760 way that shows an even higher form of

01:04:21.960 martyrdom than the elect are really

01:04:23.300 capable of because they have thrown

01:04:26.580 away their lives and their legacy that

01:04:30.120 will not be written into the human

01:04:31.320 blockchain it is a negative effect

01:04:33.400 whereas the elect have a positive when

01:04:35.560 I say a negative effect they too are

01:04:37.680 cutting art for God it's just that they

01:04:40.580 are the the Looney Tunes character

01:04:42.440 selling the branch that they're further

01:04:43.820 out on that they are creating a negative

01:04:46.200 imprint in the art whereas the elector

01:04:48.800 are creating a positive imprint in the

01:04:50.380 art but you are silencing God if you in

01:04:54.440 any way attack or treat these individuals

01:04:57.320 with any amount of enmity just guard

01:04:59.960 yourself against their messages and

01:05:02.020 guard your children against their

01:05:03.460 messages because they are dangerous

01:05:05.200 and they do lead to you know really bad

01:05:07.800 outcomes and this is why I think for

01:05:09.680 our kids you know within the school

01:05:10.760 system we built one of the things that

01:05:12.620 we include is learning about lots of

01:05:14.360 different types of cults and we even

01:05:15.800 include this within the Christian part of

01:05:17.100 the tree like we have a button you can

01:05:18.180 press it removes anything non-Christian

01:05:19.320 but I include like learning about

01:05:20.440 different cults within the Christian part

01:05:21.500 of the tree but I think that that's the

01:05:22.860 best defense against those cults coming

01:05:25.300 and deconverting these people because

01:05:27.180 they use these sorts of secret

01:05:28.640 knowledge like what's the best way to

01:05:29.700 prevent somebody from joining

01:05:30.940 Scientology you just tell them the

01:05:32.260 whole thing up front and they're like

01:05:33.720 well that's dumb you know it's the

01:05:36.300 truth for all of these you know the

01:05:37.920 mystery cults have existed for a long

01:05:39.380 time

01:05:39.680 that's a really good point I think the

01:05:44.020 key is to do it in an unromantic

01:05:45.460 fashion and without lots of

01:05:46.780 sensationalism sorry without lots of

01:05:49.120 sensationalization and without

01:05:51.460 demonizing the the party whose values

01:05:57.300 you do not support well and I think

01:05:59.560 that this is also what we do is things

01:06:00.660 like sexuality right like I do not

01:06:02.740 think that like rampant promiscuous

01:06:05.440 sexuality is a good thing for an

01:06:07.500 individual and yet we engage with it's

01:06:10.380 funny people see us they're like how can

01:06:12.040 you go about and engage with you know

01:06:15.640 people who have sex for money like a

01:06:17.780 right like on the show how can you how

01:06:20.000 can you engage with them with a level

01:06:21.480 of friendship that's not the type of

01:06:23.940 thing Jesus would do and then they're

01:06:26.220 like oh shit sorry I was thinking of

01:06:28.160 the Jesus like this high and mighty

01:06:29.780 character I learned about from from the

01:06:32.200 corruption not the actual character of

01:06:34.440 Jesus of course that's the type of

01:06:36.020 thing that the actual character of

01:06:37.520 Jesus would do to engage with these

01:06:39.600 individuals and and help them try to

01:06:41.300 earn you know income streams outside of

01:06:43.140 doing this they no one is above and this

01:06:47.840 is actually a really important thing

01:06:48.980 when Jesus says that anyone can be

01:06:50.740 saved right and this is another thing

01:06:52.060 that people really get wrong they think

01:06:53.380 the anyone can be saved line means they

01:06:55.740 can just act like a sinner their entire

01:06:57.580 life and then on their deathbed confess

01:07:00.500 and all of a sudden everything's

01:07:02.700 forgiven no what what is meant by this is

01:07:05.800 your past sins don't matter in terms of

01:07:08.480 judging your future actions because the

01:07:11.840 actions that a person who converted

01:07:13.580 when they were five are not going to be

01:07:16.680 any different from the actions of a

01:07:18.020 person who converted yesterday dwelling

01:07:19.660 on the past doesn't help you those

01:07:21.140 things are done overindulging and that

01:07:23.260 doesn't help you but you can always

01:07:25.180 move forwards towards the path of

01:07:26.880 righteousness and so dwelling on that

01:07:28.920 past is is negative right but you're

01:07:33.040 still those things are still encoded in

01:07:34.760 the human watching you know you're still

01:07:36.000 responsible for them and because the

01:07:38.800 other systems that make any sense to me at

01:07:40.880 all somebody was like well how do you get

01:07:42.660 God to forgive you within your system and

01:07:44.280 I'm like I don't believe that God is the

01:07:45.560 type of entity that needs to forgive

01:07:47.480 humans like he's so far beyond petty

01:07:50.640 concepts like forgiveness there there is

01:07:53.040 something deeper being conveyed in word

01:07:56.240 that to humans sound like forgiveness

01:07:58.420 because we can't conceive of them what he

01:08:00.720 means is don't focus on the past it's not

01:08:02.460 relevant anymore focus on what's going

01:08:04.220 forwards you are the same as anyone else

01:08:06.060 who's converted from that moment onwards you

01:08:07.980 are the same status everything like that and

01:08:10.440 but this is also why through people like a lot

01:08:12.220 we engage with knowledge about human

01:08:14.260 sexuality but we approach it if people

01:08:15.780 have read the fragments it's got idea of

01:08:16.820 sexuality pretty dryly with an amount of

01:08:19.500 levity but not with an amount of reverence

01:08:21.440 right because that's how you protect against

01:08:24.260 the dangers and temptations of sexuality and

01:08:27.220 it's the same with mysticism and so we I have

01:08:29.980 like really close mystic friends that I see was

01:08:33.340 the same amount of genuine friendship and and

01:08:36.220 genuine inter-human emotional connection as

01:08:39.720 people see between me and someone like Ayla

01:08:41.200 even though you know I wouldn't want that

01:08:43.180 lifestyle for my kid that's what I mean it is

01:08:45.040 those individuals who who take past it might

01:08:47.180 be the most different to you that you are

01:08:50.320 commanded to see and interact with and genuinely

01:08:54.720 try to understand with the most love because when

01:08:58.360 you understand them you understand the real

01:09:00.720 temptation of these pathways and and when you

01:09:03.460 demonize them you are incapable of seeing you

01:09:06.560 know you're just like when you see the

01:09:08.060 witches as just witches right when you see

01:09:09.960 them as being just individuals who are like

01:09:12.220 evil instead of as humans who are intelligent

01:09:15.500 and well-meaning and trying their best like

01:09:18.200 everyone else in the world you don't fully take

01:09:22.640 time to study and understand their perspective

01:09:24.560 which makes yourself especially vulnerable to

01:09:27.540 it and your children especially vulnerable to it and

01:09:31.120 this is what I see often with things like you

01:09:32.920 know rapid onset like trans and stuff like that

01:09:35.100 I think a lot this is why we always say that

01:09:37.040 it's really important not to shelter but but to

01:09:39.320 annotate annotate yeah teach your kids about

01:09:42.740 these communities that are going to predate upon

01:09:45.800 your community but but but do not demonize them

01:09:50.620 because if you demonize them as being somehow other

01:09:53.020 than us and being people who succumb to things

01:09:55.720 that we like good people don't have to worry about

01:09:58.600 succumbing to then people begin to contextualize

01:10:02.060 themselves as they succumb to these things well I

01:10:04.060 can't be succumbing to something evil because I'm a

01:10:06.860 good person and when you define them as bad well then

01:10:10.280 they're saying well I'm a good person I know I'm a good

01:10:11.820 person so whatever I'm succumbing to isn't evil and it

01:10:14.460 makes them extremely susceptible to it

01:10:18.180 anyway any final thoughts Simone no I'm glad that we're not sheltering our kids

01:10:27.280 also I mean you know I love having the backup if if we are wrong

01:10:34.200 they'll find out because we will make sure that they get access to all the

01:10:40.100 information and can make a decision for themselves in the end

01:10:42.480 yeah they will and I think that this is what the strong traditions are going to

01:10:45.980 do and the strong religious practices are going to do in the age of the

01:10:49.220 internet one of the reasons why so many systems are failing is because they

01:10:52.220 tried to maintain intergenerational fidelity by hiding members of their

01:10:57.080 community from knowledge of the outside world hiding them from apologetics that

01:11:00.380 work against their religious system or hiding them from other religious

01:11:03.240 systems if you can build a system a denominational Abrahamic system that

01:11:08.560 people still choose when they're exposed to all other forms of information

01:11:12.280 this isn't just for our system this is for your system if you're like what you

01:11:15.220 guys are doing is crazy fine but build one of your own systems that still hold

01:11:21.520 strong even when kids are raised exposed to all of the different systems they

01:11:26.200 could join because that's a system that will pass with intergenerational

01:11:29.860 fidelity in the age of information if information is caustic to your

01:11:34.200 tradition your tradition will die in the age of information because now

01:11:38.420 that is what we live and breathe you cannot hide people from it I love you

01:11:41.300 Simone you're great really and I appreciate you talk through these with

01:11:45.120 me and these are ones you hadn't really heard before I don't know if you have a

01:11:47.720 new thought on on any of this or well we've talked about it a lot you know even

01:11:51.740 though I haven't read these I it just resonates but maybe because those

01:11:58.920 things have never really drawn me in so maybe it's also easy to say drew your

01:12:05.320 parents in at times so our kids could be susceptible to them you do have a genetic

01:12:09.640 predilection yes

01:12:11.020 yeah I wonder if autism skips generations

01:12:16.960 because my grandparents were fine but yeah I've seen some autistic people who are

01:12:24.020 really drawn to this stuff yeah I guess it depends on numerology stuff which is a

01:12:28.680 policy oh oh yeah you're right you are right all right love you to death I mean

01:12:35.720 what is numerology if not a belief that you have supernatural access to knowledge

01:12:39.600 no that's totally work that way he doesn't hide truth he just puts it out

01:12:43.300 there yeah you're totally right out there from reading these traditions and

01:12:46.580 thinking through what's best for our children yeah love you to death I love you

01:12:49.860 you

Based Camp - March 15, 2024

Tract 5： Mysticism is a Bigger Threat to the Abrahamic Traditions than Secularism

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