Based Camp - ＂Trad Wives＂ are Worse Than THOTs

00:00:00.000 I show all this video or photos of them making pies at home and living in a very cottagecore way

00:00:05.760 and like doing, hanging up laundry to air dry and picking mushrooms. And they're these women, 1.00

00:00:12.780 for the most part, like I get this like really visceral reaction to these because the lives that

00:00:18.020 these women are living are lives of complete leisure and luxury. Like they think that what 1.00

00:00:22.340 they're doing is becoming a trad wife when really what they're doing is becoming a trophy wife. And 1.00

00:00:27.220 what they don't realize is that the men that they're marrying can't afford that. A man who

00:00:32.860 has a trophy wife really basically should be independently wealthy. Every time you see one 1.00

00:00:37.260 of these women who is indulging in this quote unquote trad lifestyle, you also see a man

00:00:43.280 who's off camera, who's secretly working to afford all of this and is sacrificing to afford all of

00:00:49.220 this. And yet the woman is acting as if she is the one making a sacrifice living in this. 0.85

00:00:54.540 So true. Would you like to know more?

00:00:57.220 Hello, Malcolm.

00:00:58.220 Hello, Simone. This is one where I had sort of a concept for a video and she didn't want 1.00

00:01:03.120 to talk too much about it beforehand because she's like, oh, I want to be surprised.

00:01:06.220 Yeah. Ask dumb questions and see what you say. 0.98

00:01:09.220 Well, we were talking, you know, in reference to the Barbie movie that it's very clear that 0.99

00:01:13.620 the women are not happy in the world that they have created. In the world that feminism created 1.00

00:01:20.140 for women, it appears that this new model doesn't work and women are living really systemically 1.00

00:01:26.140 unhappy lives based on how, how feminized they've made the world. There's some great statistics 1.00

00:01:31.620 on this as well that I might be able to put on state screen showing that generally the

00:01:36.260 more a woman buys into feminism or the more that she lives in a feminist environment, the 1.00

00:01:40.840 less happy she will be. And that over time, women's happiness has been going down as the number 1.00

00:01:47.200 of, well, as, as feminism has won more and more victories in our society. 1.00

00:01:51.800 It's happiness or maybe it's just mental health problems.

00:01:54.560 I think it's just rates of mental health problems, which of course is like primarily depression,

00:01:58.280 like, but it's not just happiness. It's like all sorts of bad things. So I think it's,

00:02:02.640 it diminishes the problem.

00:02:03.200 Oh yeah, no, it's women's happiness. It's declining over time. 1.00

00:02:05.780 Yeah. But I think if you also look at rates of, of women's mental health, that mental 0.99

00:02:09.840 health liberals and conservatives, especially among women.

00:02:12.740 Yes. It's, it's, it's really terrible. This world is uniquely bad for women more worse than 1.00

00:02:19.100 it was when women have less rights. When I say less rights, I don't mean like 1950s, I'm 0.88

00:02:24.220 talking like 1980s. Right. And that is fascinating.

00:02:27.940 I see. I don't, I don't, first off, I want to push back a little bit and say, I don't think

00:02:31.360 this is about rights. I think this is about like cultural expectations and quotas and

00:02:38.740 things like that. Like, I think that it's very important that men and women are treated

00:02:42.320 equally under the wall, but I'm sorry, under the law. But actually right now, of course,

00:02:46.240 men are not treated equally under the law. Men are much more at risk, for example, in divorces

00:02:50.700 with child custody, et cetera. So I don't even think that it's like equality that the problem

00:02:55.620 is.

00:02:56.360 Rights are responsibilities. We have pointed out multiple times 1.00

00:03:01.240 on the show that when people experience a post-scarcity environment, then we assume

00:03:06.800 they would indulge in hedonism, but instead the most frequent thing is they indulge in

00:03:10.900 self-victimization because that removes responsibility from them. And the thing that people hate most

00:03:16.720 is responsibility. And as rights changed, as it became possible for women to work and compete 1.00

00:03:24.680 with men in the workplace, then became the expectation for every woman that she does. 1.00

00:03:30.240 In addition to other things that she wants to do with her life. And biologically,

00:03:35.760 women are just going to be more driven to do things like want to have kids and stuff like that 1.00

00:03:39.220 and feel it harder when they don't do those things. So in ignoring the biology yet giving equal

00:03:45.920 expectations. Now, here's where we come in and we have a very different take than I think

00:03:50.560 traditional conservatives. I think a lot of people, they want to go back to maybe the way things

00:03:53.800 were before women's rights, before all of this. And yet I do not think that world was either 0.98

00:03:57.860 efficacious or an ideal world for women. I think that it was worse than less ideal. I just think

00:04:04.920 it was a pretty shitty world for women. If you go back 1920s, you know, 1850s, terrible place. 1.00

00:04:12.440 I would not want that for my daughters. But then the question becomes, what does a stable vision

00:04:20.260 for femininity look like? What's the way that our family is handling the different roles that men

00:04:26.120 and women have? Because men and women do have different biologies, different sociologies. And I

00:04:32.000 mean, biology is even in the brain. And this causes them to act in systemically different ways. And when

00:04:37.840 you apply an exactly equal system to them, apparently just doesn't work very well. However,

00:04:43.700 if you apply a horrifically unequal system, I also don't think it works very well. And when we look at

00:04:50.140 some of the aspirational messages that are set up for women, this is one of the things you were talking 1.00

00:04:53.780 about, which is in a big way, people misunderstand that a stay at home wife is a trophy wife. Can you

00:05:01.780 talk a bit to what you're saying? Yeah. I mean, so I would, I would argue that many of also like

00:05:06.280 the trad feminist caricatures I see online, I mean, I don't think they think that they're

00:05:12.700 caricatures, but they are, are also like inherently unsustainable and worse off. So I've seen like on

00:05:18.920 Instagram, for example, like plenty of like little videos or photos of, of with texts saying things

00:05:24.680 along the lines of, oh, like I, I turned away from the original feminist dream and went, you know,

00:05:31.800 back to being a mother and a homemaker. And they show all this video or photos of them making pies

00:05:38.600 at home and living in a very cottage core way and like doing, hanging up laundry to air dry and like

00:05:45.460 picking mushrooms. And they're these women for the most part, like I get this like really visceral 1.00

00:05:51.000 reaction to these because the lives that these women are living are lives of complete leisure and luxury. 1.00

00:05:56.600 Like they think that what they're doing is becoming a trad wife when really what they're doing is

00:06:01.780 becoming a trophy wife. And what they don't realize is that the men that they're marrying

00:06:05.740 can't afford that a man who has a trophy wife really basically should be independently wealthy.

00:06:11.960 Like there should be no risk that like, oh, well, okay, we're a single income family. Like if I lose my

00:06:16.780 income, then we're totally screwed. So basically if you are dependent on an income, you cannot afford to

00:06:22.180 have a trophy wife or trophy husband for that matter. And the fact that these women are, I think 1.00

00:06:27.920 to a certain extent, like it's, it's just as bad as feminists who are sort of like goading their 1.00

00:06:32.100 husbands into being a sole breadwinner in a family and in an economy that doesn't support sole breadwinner

00:06:38.040 families anymore. This is fascinating. So what you're describing here behind every, every time you see

00:06:44.140 one of these women who is indulging in this quote unquote trad lifestyle, you also see a man 0.75

00:06:50.340 who's off camera, who's secretly working to afford all of this and is sacrificing to afford all of

00:06:56.260 this. And yet the woman is acting as if she is the one making a sacrifice, living in this abundant

00:07:02.920 leisure. And then in addition to that, they're acting, they're not only acting like they're making

00:07:08.320 a sacrifice. They act like they're being imminently humble and, and like imminently subservient.

00:07:15.020 Yeah. And in the end, like they are becoming a complete dependent on someone else financially

00:07:19.920 and, and basically living a luxury life, ordering that the other person around essentially spending

00:07:24.860 their money. Oh yeah. And they're like, this is sort of the way they approach the financial state

00:07:29.740 of the family. Yet what they're doing when they do that, it's not like money becomes less important

00:07:35.240 to living the lifestyle that they and their kids are living. They are just 100% putting that

00:07:39.500 responsibility on the man. Yeah. And actually, you know, that's not even like traditional in many

00:07:43.880 housewife cultures. So I don't know if you, you knew about this, but there was this, this phenomenon

00:07:49.360 actually, like at some point in, in modern trading markets where Japanese housewives who traditionally 1.00

00:07:54.620 are the ones to manage all family finances, like the husbands make the money, but the housewives, 1.00

00:07:59.540 you know, and this is a culture that supports single breadwinner families. The housewives would manage 1.00

00:08:03.280 the money. And during periods, of course, when interest rates were totally gone in Japan,

00:08:08.200 right. We're like, literally their money was losing value. If it was sitting in a savings account,

00:08:11.580 all these, these housewives, like learned how to make shit tons of money on the stock market. 1.00

00:08:16.540 And they were doing very, very sophisticated trades. And they were like two levels of this. 0.92

00:08:19.980 There's a really interesting YouTube video about this. Actually.

00:08:22.420 We'll talk about this. What I find interesting continue. We were going to say something.

00:08:25.800 Well, my point is that like, even the fact that they're like, money's not my thing. They just put

00:08:30.540 so much on their husbands and we've met husbands who've like been like, well, you know,

00:08:36.140 like kids are going to college now and like have to pay for the nannies. And like, you know, I just,

00:08:40.360 so I have to make this new job work. And like, we can feel the pressure. Like I, I can't deal with

00:08:47.060 that kind of oppressive. I can't, I can't deal with it.

00:08:49.160 We know some people who actually make this lifestyle possible for their wives who are like related to

00:08:54.480 us. And you can see in their eyes, the weight of the world on them. And it is painful to be around

00:09:00.540 them. Yeah. These guys, because they have their entire family is living in this like reality that

00:09:08.280 doesn't really exist. And that they are making that illusion possible through the pressure they're

00:09:15.720 putting on themselves. And it is almost sort of psycho and disgusting. And another thing is that 0.97

00:09:22.640 this is not the way that families were traditionally run. We've done another video on this. Tradwives are 1.00

00:09:26.400 progressive conspiracy. You can look it up in our history. The point being is that historically

00:09:31.400 the roles of women, women are not the roles that they have today. They are not the roles that they 1.00

00:09:37.600 have in a nuclear family, nuclear families, the idea of like a husband working to earn all the money 0.65

00:09:41.920 for the family that really didn't start until the 1920s. And it really ended as something popular in

00:09:47.360 the 1970s. And even from the twenties to the seventies, it was only in to upper class American families

00:09:56.060 only. And America had a uniquely good economy during that period. Cause it was basically

00:10:00.060 stealing the rest of the world's money after a period of war. Like it had a cheesed economy at 0.63

00:10:06.240 the expense of everyone else that allowed it to have just so much wealth that this insane lifestyle

00:10:11.940 where entire families were able to live off of one person's income was feasible. And that this was

00:10:17.780 ingrained in the public consciousness through the movies and sitcoms that were produced in the 1950s,

00:10:24.400 but it is certainly not an actual traditional way of doing anything. The actual traditional way

00:10:29.440 with the corporate family, which we talk about in that, if you want to go into that. But the point

00:10:34.080 being is, is this illusion of the housewife is totally predatory, but it's also bad for the woman. 1.00

00:10:39.560 So everything here, we've been talking about how the woman is like living in this illusion that she's 0.98

00:10:43.600 created for herself and this indulgence, but it completely depowers the woman, especially when the 1.00

00:10:50.020 kids leave the house. When the kids leave the house, if you are a woman who has put 1.00

00:10:53.860 yourself in one of these situations, why should the guy not just upgrade to a younger model?

00:10:59.120 Why not? You have nothing. You bring nothing. You have made yourself disposable. It is, it is only

00:11:09.300 his good graces and kindness that is keeping you around. And historically, if we lived in like a stable

00:11:15.620 cultural institution, there would have been societal pressures forcing him to stay married to you,

00:11:20.060 but those don't exist. All you get now is alimony, which is, I guess, something, but it's,

00:11:26.060 it's certainly not a safe place to be in if he has a solid prenup and you live in a place that supports

00:11:31.920 that. So not a great situation for these women either. Long-term. I mean, it's a, it's a great 1.00

00:11:39.040 sort of short-term indulgence where they can get famous on TikTok before they're disposed of,

00:11:43.740 but it's a, it's a bad, I think it's just sort of bad all around. But then we have this problem in

00:11:48.020 our society where when people look at what women are, like, like the ideal woman in our society, 0.93

00:11:52.720 it's the woman that sells. The woman that sells, like, this is what companies are going to use to 1.00

00:11:56.960 sell things. This is what's going to be on billboards. This is what's going to be on billboards.

00:11:59.820 Which is really a sex symbol.

00:12:01.860 Your average man from a biological perspective is going to be looking for a woman that looks like 1.00

00:12:07.580 she can produce a lot of kids. And that typically means young and without kids already. Whereas 1.00

00:12:13.160 cultures, like long striving historic cultures, they work through rewarding mothers and motherhood

00:12:20.800 and, and being a good wife. But when I talk to many, you know, people in sort of the tribe community

00:12:25.520 and stuff like that, their ideal woman is almost sort of based on the stereotype progressives have

00:12:34.320 of conservative cultures than what most actual conservative cultures would have as their ideal

00:12:39.640 woman. You know, they are looking for this hot, submissive woman that is basically a parasite 1.00

00:12:45.300 off of them. And they have to maintain this fantasy for it just doesn't sound very nice. And so when 0.99

00:12:49.940 people look to me and they go, why are you naming all your daughters male names? Right. But one,

00:12:56.480 they earn more money to they do better in their careers. Like this has been done in a lot of studies,

00:12:59.840 but three, they contextualize themselves differently. So it's been shown that women with male names, 0.98

00:13:05.180 or gender neutral names, that they get STEM degrees at much, much higher rates. And they get liberal arts

00:13:12.820 degrees at much, much lower rates, which I think is really fascinating. And that just shows like a

00:13:17.040 different self-conceptualization. So what I aim for, when I'm thinking like, what is the woman's role 0.99

00:13:21.880 in our family and within our culture? And when I've talked to other people in sort of our wider network

00:13:26.060 of families, many of them have come to the same conception of womanhood. And I really like it,

00:13:30.980 which is to say that the woman is the bulwark of the family, the defender of the family.

00:13:37.960 She is in charge of the family financial stability and what goes on in the home. But the core thing

00:13:43.340 is the financial stability where the man is the one making risky big plays that are meant to move

00:13:50.280 the family up financial levels or are meant to advance the family in social spheres.

00:13:56.320 Yeah. So you've got the foundation and you've got the, I guess, growth or risk or like in any

00:14:03.540 balanced investment portfolio, you've got like CDs and savings and bonds. And then, well, at least

00:14:08.160 before bonds were completely crazy and stupid to get. And then you have like high risk investments 0.99

00:14:13.040 and VC and things like that. Right. Yeah. So it's a little different from how we individually do it,

00:14:18.320 which is, I don't know. I mean, I'm, you're pretty high risk and I'm pretty stable.

00:14:22.400 No, no, no. It is true. But I mean, because we work together, it's a little different than a lot of

00:14:25.600 families. Yeah. When I talk to other families who do this, what is often the case is the woman 1.00

00:14:29.680 will work like a stable nine to five job and the man will attempt to start new companies.

00:14:36.060 Yeah. The man will attempt to run for office, you know, stuff like that. Right. Things that are

00:14:39.300 meant to move the family up socioeconomic levels. And the model that I had in my head for this,

00:14:45.200 I mentioned this in the other video, but it was really interesting to me when I saw this,

00:14:48.980 because these are one, such different roles is, is shovel night. So in shovel night, it's a,

00:14:53.920 it's this little game. It's a great game, by the way, if you haven't played it, it's a very good

00:14:57.880 take back to the old arcade games. And throughout the game, you're playing as this character called

00:15:02.740 shovel night, but you know that he normally works with a female character called shield night. 1.00

00:15:06.960 And at the end of the game, you finally get to play with both of them sort of on screen.

00:15:12.840 And his move kit or his tool kit is very limited in many ways. Like you can like do a jump when he jumps

00:15:19.120 on an enemy and stuff like that. And immediately, as soon as shield night comes into the scene,

00:15:24.820 all of his little moves pair so well with the way that her character works. Like now he's able to

00:15:31.600 jump on her shield. So many things where you're like, why was he so limited in this way? You

00:15:37.520 immediately are like, Oh, he was part of this complete whole that had a completely different

00:15:43.420 move set, but that worked together completely synergistically. And with shovel night, you can

00:15:50.040 almost think of it like sword night and shield night, I guess you could think of it. The idea

00:15:53.100 being that the woman within this conception of femininity is the family's shield. She is the

00:15:59.200 bulwark. She is tenacity incarnate, whereas the man is ambition incarnate in how he relates to the world.

00:16:07.400 And it's this pairing of sort of, I guess, fire and earth, right? That is the way that I would

00:16:16.160 conceptualize femininity for our kids and for our cultural group. And I think it's a very sustainable

00:16:22.940 way to conceptualize femininity where the woman is not valued for her beauty, right? Or for her, 0.54

00:16:32.580 and I think even worse you see in some things for her guile, you know, her sassy has become a positive 0.84

00:16:38.960 thing to say about wives to the extent where, you know, many women try to embody sassiness when 1.00

00:16:44.540 sassiness is often just the degradation of people around them and men around them instead of the

00:16:51.640 fortification of men around them. And so I really like this conceptualization and we had talked a bit

00:16:59.060 about it in one of our videos and these videos, they help me think through things, right? And so after

00:17:02.380 talking about it, I thought about it, I talked to some other people about, like, the way our family

00:17:05.700 sees women and men, it really began to solidify for me. And it feels very snug in my mind, this

00:17:12.380 conception of what the man is and what the woman is in a family. Do you have thoughts on this?

00:17:19.900 And that broadly resonates. Yeah.

00:17:22.440 But I mean, how do you teach? Like, I guess it's-

00:17:28.380 How would we teach our daughters about this?

00:17:30.520 You know, the key feature of femininity within this model is actually endurance. 1.00

00:17:37.840 It is endurance, constitution, tenacity. You know, as you said in your motto when I first met you,

00:17:44.780 which I always loved, is repeated blunt force was your motto on your page and everything like that.

00:17:50.680 And I loved that. Because it wasn't, I'm going to win in the end because I'm smarter than other

00:17:54.560 people or I'm clever or I'm going to find some underground solution. It is, I am going to win

00:17:58.820 because I am just going to hit my head against the wall until that wall finally breaks.

00:18:03.680 Yep.

00:18:04.120 And when I saw that, that was to many ways, like me, the ideal wife, the ideal person I wanted as a

00:18:13.700 partner. And what's also really interesting is in this model is when the woman is sort of protecting

00:18:21.620 the man to be able to, you know, make these thrusts at the opponent's weak points, the opponent being

00:18:28.020 life in this point, in this context, the man can work so much more aggressively and so much with,

00:18:34.820 with such greater knowledge of purpose. Right.

00:18:39.020 Yeah. I guess what I would add to this is there are no hard and fast rules. And I think, you know,

00:18:44.420 we, both of us know many women who would be really good, risky people in a relationship and many men 0.98

00:18:51.340 would be really happy to be the stable one. I think a lot of it comes down to like, rather than,

00:18:57.140 you know, necessarily all this, I would say a key to femininity and to masculinity is understanding

00:19:03.380 where you have specialization and teaming up with someone who is a very different specialization

00:19:11.440 to get more done than you'd ever get done on your own. I think a big part of what has been lost in

00:19:16.880 visions of idealized masculinity or feminism, femininity is the other person. Like back to the 0.99

00:19:22.700 trad wives that I see posting on Instagram, they don't talk about their husbands aside from like 0.97

00:19:28.060 how I'm serving my husband and how I'm so trad. And like, you know, the relationship is not the

00:19:34.800 point. The family is not the point. They are the point. And I think that's what we're also really

00:19:39.460 missing is that our society is so atomized and individuality is so atomized that people don't

00:19:44.580 realize that the point isn't to be yourself and be your best self. The point is to serve something

00:19:49.240 larger and be a part of something bigger than yourself. But I think that's, that's a big thing

00:19:53.500 that's missing in femininity as well, is that femininity is also about becoming, becoming your 0.81

00:20:01.780 partner, becoming your children. And to me, before meeting you and before having children, that concept

00:20:09.700 grates a lot. Like it is not something, you know, it's like petting a cat backwards or nails on a chalkboard.

00:20:17.180 That is not something that like anyone raised in modern society wants. And yet it brings more

00:20:22.580 purpose, more resolve, more ability to overcome hardship and more contentment in life than anything

00:20:27.920 I could have imagined. So, you know, there you go. I think that's a big thing that's missing.

00:20:33.880 No, I think that you're, what was that?

00:20:39.600 Oh, that was the door opening, but that's because there's a cross breeze.

00:20:42.560 Sorry. There's a, there's a murderer walking around our area of Pennsylvania right now.

00:20:48.160 No, he was arrested. He was arrested.

00:20:51.860 Oh, they caught him?

00:20:52.800 Yeah.

00:20:53.620 Oh, lovely.

00:20:54.700 Yeah. But still lock the doors, damn it. 0.99

00:20:59.460 Anyway. So yeah, this, this, and it is interesting when people try to create iterations of femininity 0.98

00:21:08.760 and masculinity that are almost sort of based on a, a like world that doesn't exist anymore,

00:21:14.720 where they're like, Oh, I am the protector of the family. It's like, bro, you live in a society,

00:21:18.800 like fam, you don't, their family does not need a constant protector anymore. That's, that's not,

00:21:24.640 you know, you don't need to be going out and beating people up. That is not in the best interest

00:21:28.240 of your family within this modern society. Right. Or, you know, the, the wife is supposed to, 1.00

00:21:34.740 you know, what manage the farm. Well, you don't have a farm. Okay. You, you know, you've got to

00:21:39.260 create an iteration that works within our existing society. And I also really love what you just said,

00:21:44.620 which is to say that the idealized, I think many types of trad femininity or the trad wife is a 0.99

00:21:51.040 glorification of the individual of the woman, rather than the way that she engages with and becomes a 0.77

00:22:00.180 part of her husband and her family, which I think is the, the true side of, of, of what I would say

00:22:07.020 an idealized marriage, which is that it is not about, and we actually, yeah, we were talking about

00:22:13.500 this in the car and it really messed me up. You know, when I was saying, when I hear people talk

00:22:17.260 about their relationships these days, like why they're getting in a relationship, it is about how

00:22:23.320 it makes them feel. It's about how it helps them. They're like, what does he do to like make me feel

00:22:29.200 good? What does he do to like help me? What does he do to, you know, what? Like, that's not the point.

00:22:36.340 The point is how you work together for the good of the unit. Yeah. It should be, here's what we're

00:22:42.660 doing together. Here's what we're building together. Here's our shared vision, but it's, it's yeah,

00:22:47.700 almost never that it's, here's what he did for me. Here's this gift he got from you. Here's this

00:22:51.520 trip we took together or this. Yeah. Not ideal. Well, I am so desperately fortunate that I live

00:23:00.180 with a woman who helped, like it was in this iteration of femininity within, I guess I call 0.68

00:23:05.480 it prairie wife femininity, you know, the hard farm working woman. I love it. No, because that's 0.82

00:23:10.440 where it comes from. Right. Like, um, the, the woman who is the bulwark for the family, the one that

00:23:17.780 allows the other family members to, to strike at life and do the types of things that I've been

00:23:23.440 able to do. You know, people look at our lives, they go, you wrote five books in this time period

00:23:28.200 while running a company. Like, how did you do that? I would not have had time to do that.

00:23:33.780 Had you not provided me with stability, right? We wouldn't have time to have built the school.

00:23:39.600 We wouldn't have time to do all of these things. Had you not provided us with stability. And I'm just

00:23:44.700 so grateful for that. And it's a form of femininity and masculinity where both individuals have sort of

00:23:53.160 full utility within a modern economic context. And that also really excites me. So within this

00:23:59.780 iteration of femininity, you are the paragon. There could not be a woman better than you within this

00:24:08.000 iteration. And I hold that as hard as anyone can hold anything. All you have, you've lost at achieving

00:24:13.580 anything close to this. No, there are lots of women out there who do more and have more mental 1.00

00:24:20.960 control and have also more children. So I'm just saying we could do better, but thank you, Malcolm.

00:24:28.360 I really appreciate that. Anything also like, I think the really interesting thing that is missing

00:24:36.040 from many men who are like, you know, where, where are all the good women? You know, where,

00:24:40.420 where are these, you know, perfect women? They're not there. You know, I don't see any of them. 1.00

00:24:44.820 You know, and they, they also will like try to go like they'll, what do they call it? Like passport

00:24:49.060 dating where they'll like, go find a wife from some other culture who's like more conservative

00:24:53.660 is they don't realize that it's up to them to be the person to bring that out in their spouse. And it's

00:25:00.680 also up to them to create that kind of relationship. And I think a lot of men expect that they're going to

00:25:06.240 get the kind of partner that really co-invest in life with them just out of the bag that they're

00:25:13.400 just going to meet some woman who's like, Oh, like your vision and everything that did you think

00:25:17.480 that's how I started out with Malcolm? Like totally not Malcolm. You, you gave, you gave us something

00:25:22.820 to live for together. First off, you had a very inspirational vision for what life together could

00:25:27.900 be like for what we could build together. If we really coordinated and went all in. So one,

00:25:32.060 you, you were inspiring and you had to do that. You had to be someone with the capability of

00:25:35.980 actually selling that story and executing on it. And then you also invested a huge amount in being

00:25:42.420 like, no, this is not how we're going to resolve conflict in our relationship. This is not how we're

00:25:46.360 going to do this in the relationship. Like let's do things this way. Let's do things this way. Like

00:25:50.200 constantly, constantly correcting. And honestly, like taking the harder path many, many times when

00:25:55.500 other guys would just be like, nah, like this isn't something I'm going to worry about.

00:25:58.780 That, you know, what you just said is really the key. The man has to be the inspiration and the

00:26:04.200 flame of ambition for the family, but a flame of ambition that can catch other people's excitement.

00:26:10.660 If you are just ambitious about something that your wife has no interest in, then you are not

00:26:16.160 providing her with any value. You need to be the type of ambitious, the type of passionate where when

00:26:22.960 your wife sees that she gets excited in it and invested in it, and she is excited to play a role

00:26:29.400 in seeing that realized. And if you're a guy and you're like, well, women don't do that for me. 1.00

00:26:34.180 They're just not interested in what I'm interested in. Either you, then you might not be inspiring

00:26:37.780 enough. And this is the key thing. When I talk about like how to be a good woman, many women will be 0.98

00:26:43.260 like, well, I can't be like that. You know, I've got all these problems and I just want to stay at home

00:26:48.740 and be super obese and not do anything. And it's like, well, then maybe you shouldn't be breeding.

00:26:53.420 You know, even when we talk about like, like maybe you shouldn't have a family, maybe you won't be a

00:26:57.620 good mom. Like maybe you are not good enough for any man to actually want and create a family with. 1.00

00:27:03.860 And that is harsh, but it is true. We live in a world where maybe not everyone in us as per

00:27:10.080 natalists, as people who want other people having kids, even we say, yeah, but we want like people who

00:27:15.800 will be good parents to have tons of kids, not like your average schmo to have like one or two

00:27:21.600 kids, right? Because they'll live pretty shitty lives. But the same is true for men. Men can go 0.98

00:27:26.940 and they can look at women and they can be like, well, you're just not really good enough for anyone

00:27:30.880 to really want. But the same is true for men. Many men just are incapable of inspiring anyone.

00:27:37.360 Well, but also like, I, I technically, I technically wasn't good enough for you when we met.

00:27:42.340 Oh yeah. And I gave you metrics. I think many, many men would like, had, had they had your 0.99

00:27:48.340 standards never would have dated me. And I think that's another thing is that many men

00:27:51.580 won't deign to get a fixer upper wife and they just expect like someone to come out of the box 1.00

00:27:57.260 perfect. So. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. And that's, that's absolutely true as well. So,

00:28:01.620 you know, also you've got to, you've got to build the person, you've got to inspire the person.

00:28:05.360 There are many things that you have to do as a man, many, many skill checks. I've been playing

00:28:10.940 Baldur's Gate 3 recently where you may not, as it's based on the D and D system, many skill

00:28:15.260 checks where the dice rolls may have not turned out in your favor. And we will do another video

00:28:19.860 sometime on how to get a great wife, because I would love to sort of go through the steps 0.99

00:28:27.640 on how to obtain that. Cause a lot of people are trying to get wives in the same, using the 1.00

00:28:31.840 same systems that they perfected to pick up sex partners or short-term relationships.

00:28:36.580 It's a different, different strategy, different playbook, different, totally different playbook.

00:28:40.580 Well, that'll be fun to talk about. I'm looking forward to it, but I really enjoyed this

00:28:43.300 conversation too, Milka. I loved this conversation. This was fantastic.

00:28:47.660 Looking forward to our next one already. And I'm so glad that I found you the single 1.00

00:28:51.200 most perfect woman to ever be born or exist within any timeline. I'm so glad you settled.

00:28:56.880 Okay.

Based Camp - September 19, 2023

＂Trad Wives＂ are Worse Than THOTs

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