Trans People Are Almost Never Killed： WHY？!
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In this episode, we discuss the shocking statistics regarding the number of trans and non-binary people who die in violent deaths in the United States every year, and whether or not these numbers are really as bad as they seem to suggest.
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Hello, Simone! Today we are going to need to be talking about a paradox, which is if you look at
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the organizations that mark how many trans or non-binary people die violent deaths a year,
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the numbers are odd because they are always incredibly low, well, well below the general
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population. If we go with non-Black trans individuals, that would mean that you have only
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0.38 deaths per year combined to four per hundred thousand for the general population
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which is insanely low specifically you would be looking at a rate that is around by by some
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estimates like if i go by a4te's estimates for non-black trans individuals they have a
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a violent death rate that would have to be multiplied by 10.5 to be the same as the
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regular non-trans cis rate what is their secret this is what sign me up for this and this is the
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reason i wanted to get into this is one this goes directly to the opposite is trans people always
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would be like trans people don't you understand yeah something something hate crimes and the
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police and everyone wants to beat me up yeah well the statistics don't agree with you on that the
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statistics actually show that trans people live enormously privileged lives and so the question
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is is why well so we'll be going into the statistics is it that they're wealthier on average
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is it that they do less drugs is it that they like what could be causing this right what could
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be causing these and before i jump into the numbers here if you want to be like well these
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organizations say that these numbers aren't exhaustive for the number of trans and non-binary
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people who are killed violently every year it's like yeah but they try really hard like okay
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question off the bat when we're comparing the the trans rates of violent deaths to the general
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population are we talking men to men or are we talking all men and women we're going to go into
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that okay but when we're talking these numbers if you are reading this what somebody is going to say
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is, hey, Malcolm, those numbers, they couldn't find every single trans and non-binary person
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who died violently. To which I would push back and I'd be like, actually, the numbers are probably
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overcounts. So I'll explain why they're probably overcounts. First of all, being trans or non-binary,
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it's not like being a member of some other communities where you're not like all in,
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where your friends do not definitely notify these organizations, where these organizations
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do not definitely want to make it look like tons of trans people are dying right like this isn't
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you're not like kind of in the trans lifestyle or something like that it's not like gay we're like
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a person may have been gay and like they weren't interested in telling like the big
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gay rights orgs or something like that it seems very unlikely especially given how politically
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charged the topic is these days that individuals would not be overmarked and then you have the
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problem of oh somebody wore a dress one day or something like that and the trans organizations
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in terms of trans shooters which we'll go over the data on that again because it is it is really
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twisted that they're like we are so much at risk from you when the actual studies like if you
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actually just run the math they are mass shooters at like i think it's like 10x the rate and they
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are likely to be killed at like one tenth the rate so we've got to go over it's it's so weird
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it's like it's like the the wolf you know they're deep in sheep carcasses drenched in blood being
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like the sheep are always bullying me you know and so the question is and this is just the data here
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people like we're we're going to go into these i will name the individuals we can go through you
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can look them up but what i will be pointing out is that the number of trans mass shooters is
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sometimes inflated by conservatives, you want to find, you know, every potential person who could
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be, you know, wore a dress in one photo or something like that. Right. And I think that that
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is, you're going to see a similar phenomenon from trans rights organizations where they're going to
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want to inflate their numbers. So they're going to look for everyone they possibly can. And you're
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not going to have as many people to fight back against these organizations, miscategorizing
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somebody who died as trans, as you would have people trying to miss a fight back against people,
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miscategorizing a mass shooter as trans. And I would point out here that then if you're going to
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go, well, the mass shooter rate might be inflated because people was a reason to inflate the number
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might choose to in the way that they're counting things. Why do you say that for conservative orgs
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and then not the trans orgs that are counting the trans people who died from? So my guess is at the
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probably these numbers are overcounted but even if the numbers are not overcounted
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it's not like you doubled these numbers or if you tripled these numbers you would get a rate
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of equivalent to non-trans violent deaths you would need to increase them astronomically to
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get a number equivalent and and that's just implausible to me that that's the explanation
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i think if you're grabbing for that explanation you are just denying reality at this point so
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let's go over the specific orgs here. So the first thing to note is that for the first organization
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here, they very helpfully split out and pointed out that 70% of the people who had died of the
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trans people who had died were black. And if you look across all of the studies, they all know that
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black people, trans black people die at a way higher violent rate than non-black trans people.
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And this is why we talk about the white or the non-black because they're very low rates of
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hispanic trans victimization as well well but also do the rates of black trans people dying
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violent deaths surpass those of just black people in america i did not compare them by race but what
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i can say is black trans people actually have about twice the rate of dying violently as
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non-trans people okay so black trans people actually are at risk from being trans yeah but
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mean i also just feel like being a black american your odds of well yeah the the the caveat here
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is they were also all almost killed by black people almost all killed by black people well
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same with also non-trans black people so right right but the black community is more i guess
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you call it say transphobic and homophobic than the um white community even though that you know
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goes against i'm just saying what what are these percentages that you're looking at again i think
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the percentages right i'm going to try to find this out yeah okay so rate per 1 000 for black
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trans people it's 6.8 is the rate per 100 000 violent deaths right violent deaths yes if i go
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to and to get an idea of how different the black versus non-black rate is if i go to the non-black
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trans rate and this is for a4te 0.38 remember it was 6.8 for blacks yeah and so this for blacks
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means it's about twice normal this for non-black trans the normal rate is 10.5x higher
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so what did you say it was for it was six per thousand point eight per hundred thousand
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six point eight per hundred thousand for for black trans people yeah it's it's twenty nine
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per hundred thousand for black americans oh so they're also protected yeah that's my point is
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that like no you just see more black trans people getting hurt because more black people die of
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deaths in america too like they're the vast like well those numbers are still bigger but that that
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also oh simone you and stats you get this you're figuring out mysteries here
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now if we go to what the trans overall difference is in this a4te it's 0.94 which means that you'd
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have to multiply that by 4.3x to get the general violent death rate go to the hrc numbers they had
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27 trans deaths overall again this is exactly the same you'd have to multiply that by 4.3 x to get
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the general rate if we go to the tgeu study 31 you'd have to multiply that by 3.7 x to get the
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general population so what i'm noting here is it's not like one study or something like that it's
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every single group that reports this is massively under reporting it or not under so no they're
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reporting numbers that are lower than that of the general lower than what you'd expect yeah
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so first of all but before i go further what are your hypotheses
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okay my my primary what i'm going to go on is most trans people are at least that are of age
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like younger there's more female to male but of age it's more male to female and they are
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lowering their testosterone and increasing their estrogen, I think testosterone plays a major role
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in violence and crime. And when you effectively neuter someone in that way, you're going to
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reduce their rate of violence in general, on average, you're going to have outliers with all
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these shooters and stuff. But I think even when you take a female to male trans person, I think
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that their testosterone levels in general, aren't going to be as high, or let's say, even if they
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tried to commit violent crime they still have like a natal female body so they're coming from
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a weaker blank as it were so they're less likely to maybe be successful in their attempts at violent
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crime or they're less likely to try because they know they're not going to do anything really
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effectively so just like you don't really see any female to male trans people in sports you know
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trouncing anyone you know so i think that's the issue is that this is about a population of people
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that broadly has lower testosterone levels and or weaker blanks that is to say like female natal
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bodies and therefore they're less likely likely to be involved in the stuff that gets you killed
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in violent ways interesting hypothesis but we also know that they have less self-control because they
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commit mass murder at higher rates i think those are outliers and i don't think that they are
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representative of the averages of the population well if you remember our study on transsexual
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fantasies being much more violent than the general population sexual fantasies where we went deeper
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into that so maybe i like this hypothesis i don't hate this hypothesis i don't think that fantasies
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necessarily correlate with action in fact i and we have argued in our erotic material related
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arguments that actually being able to indulge in and understand and contextualize fantasies as that
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is going to reduce your rate of actually acting on them in fact the most repressed sexual fantasies
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like conservative muslim groups have the highest rate of like suicide bombers and stuff and
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terrorists yeah this is a very well studied thing across like most ways that you can cut this and
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it is something that a lot of conservatives intuitively get wrong when a group has access
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to pornographic material on a particular subject,
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they are less likely to do the thing tied to that.
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it went down by something like 30%, I think, or 35%.
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or somewhere they did it, it went down a bunch.
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you typically see grape rates go down at around the same rate as internet penetration is hitting
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a region. If you're even looking in prison, the average sexual predator in prison started consuming
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pornography later than the average person within that society, I think also was in prison. So it's
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just the more access you have, the less likely you are to commit a particular act. And I know this
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goes against conservative intuitions, but it's important to be able to admit when your intuitions
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or which you would like to be true about something
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no no they just know all of the people who died they don't compare it to the gen pop
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because in their mind no trans people should ever be dying of violence and that's really interesting
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to me as well right like imagine the arrogance you have to have to not attempt to convert your
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numbers to gen pop numbers but to assume that your population is so ultra special and nice
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that it should have zero violent deaths at all when most of the trans violent deaths are tied
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to stuff like drug deals gone wrong and stuff like that you know the same type of thing where
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normal people get killed but nope if you're special snowflakes nothing bad can ever happen
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to them but it's also interesting to me that they don't even think to do this calculation themselves
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before they put out numbers that are going to make them look really bad well they may very well do
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those numbers and just realize that they're not flattering i mean if you're trying to post the
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flattering report you leave out the unflattering numbers they'd be insane to do that you understand
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that yeah they probably know they're just not idiots and the ones that were honest well those
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non-profits didn't get more funding did they malcolm so yeah so what they included in this list
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is transgender and gender expansive people so anything remotely non-binary was considered
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and gender expansive two-spirit gender non-conforming
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if they if they knew about us we'd be on the list because as we both said we're both agender like i
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don't care because we both sexually identify as attack helicopters i mean octavian definitely
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no no but i'm just talking about like realistically biologically if i try to like meditate on this
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subject do i really care if i come off as a man to people if i was born tomorrow as a woman i just
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make it work i just be like okay i'll make this work you'd probably be stoked because there's so
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many cheat codes as a woman wear it better than me i think i mean there's you know there's positive
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i i i suppose even if just for novelty i'd be like okay now i get to experience both sides of
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the human condition i would be bummed if i were a man though like no no one's gonna be nice to
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me anymore everyone's gonna put responsibility on me i can't play dumb anymore becoming a woman
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when you're post wall is not exactly fun right like oh no i'm really excited for my old lady
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phase super excited people love a spicy old lady you know i've also pointed out this in other
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episodes we've done on trans people but i think that's something that is really under thought
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about when men decide to transition into women is they don't understand how short a period they're
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going to have before they hit the wall as a woman oh yes underrated and so they they transition into
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a woman and then like three years later they're hitting the wall and they might not even and this
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this is when they're finally passing finally you know like consider like a choice right yeah
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everything's finally dialed in we get everything right and they might be if if everything goes
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well for them they pass they look good everything like that then they get four years and they hit
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it doesn't matter if you pass you don't want to be a post-wall woman and this is where i think
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trans maxers are being really stupid they are thinking about what it would be like to be a
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woman at their age not what it's going to be like to be a woman in five to ten years so yeah they're
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thinking like cute anime cat girls i mean sure and that that is why you know women who are in
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their 40s and 50s and even 30s getting cosmetic procedures are also engaging in gender affirming
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care but they're all fighting and pursuing they're fighting for and pursuing things that they cannot
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have that they cannot ultimately really pull off yeah so that is an interesting phenomenon that i
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don't think it's talked about enough and i i actually think it's probably one of the big
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causes of the high unaliving right was in the community because well no i mean what a horrifying
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thing what would be better to be a post-wall woman or to be dead really to have to have lived
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both stages of the wall as the gender you would rather not be i got to live youth as a man and
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old age as a woman god yeah that that really is yeah playing the age arbitrage game 100
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percent wrong anyway to continue here now is where i think is one of the biggest areas where
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they're fudging of the numbers in their favor could be causing this illusion so in the stats
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that i'm using here i'm using the approximately one percent trans approximately 0.3 percent
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non-binary numbers but these organizations will often put out numbers of like five to nine percent
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two to three percent, et cetera, right? So I'm even using the numbers that I think look better
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for them. But if these numbers, if this one percent and this 0.3 percent number, it turns
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out are massively inflated, that would create this phenomenon. If it turns out that the number
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of trans individuals in the United States is actually only like trans and non-binary, only
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like 0.25 percent, you could explain this entire phenomenon with that. And I could buy that being
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the case now let's go with could it be that they're using drugs at a way lower rate the
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answer here is unfortunately no they use drugs at a much higher rate 4.3 percent in the trans
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community versus 1.2 percent in the general population they also smoke at a higher rate
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16.6 percent versus 5.4 percent probably wealthier though i think that being trans is a very first
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world problem and if you have enough free time to care that much about your sex slash gender
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you're probably pretty you come from well we'll get to this this is one of my hypotheses okay
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if we talk about some other drugs you have higher rates of use of cannabis opioids and cocaine
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it's specifically 24 to 31 percent in the past months versus five to ten percent those are all
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bougie drugs though right but hold on hold on hold on hold on so you got a hypothesis here
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let's try it all right because i i ran the numbers on this okay what is the trans poverty rate
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all right it's 21 versus 10.6 right except x the poverty rate of the general population
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you understand like i how many rich kids i've known who technically are impoverished but like
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mommy and daddy buy everything but they're still getting snap benefits and they're on medicaid and
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stuff because they have no income but like mommy and daddy still pay a lot of trans people i've
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met are like on what's the the thing here where they're on like child Medicaid and no no alimony
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they're on like divorce rich or they're you know mommy and daddy rich or trust fundians that could
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be explained here so unemployment rate nine to sixteen percent versus four point four percent
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so two to four x higher than the general population medium weekly earnings it's seven hundred to
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nine hundred dollars which is lower than the gen pop a thousand two hundred and four dollars but
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also just like i feel again like wealthy people who are technically unemployed have way too much
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time on their hands i mean does contrapoints have a job does philosophy i mean philosophy too like
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works for for broadway plays like from now on and off i assumed that in between abigail thorne
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well yeah yeah yeah they must yeah okay maybe that doesn't count but like i feel like a lot of the
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figures that i know about job simone i mean they only put out like one episode a year like
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basically never publishes anything although she just ran something on saw
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i might check it out she's actually not a bad content creator i like i like her videos but i
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don't like saw i hope it doesn't get too explicit but i like all her her you know gel lighting and
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everything so costumes makeup i know i mean i think that she has interesting ideas occasionally
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i'm like not always and i think that she's very much blinded by her political ideology
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but i think that's a no i mean she's not always toe the line and i really appreciate that yeah
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she's she's capable of a coherent argument she sounds like a real person by the way did you
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hear i didn't know about this because we had the episode that we did on philosophy tube that i do
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not think makes good arguments i think philosophy tube's basically a tard but that philosophy tube
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before she transitioned dated contrapoints at one point and everybody points out that she clearly
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transitioned to try to look like contrapoints and made a channel like contrapoints and contrapoints
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even once made a tweet and then deleted it saying like oh well you think you know what it's like to
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have a creepy ex you've never had one who dressed up like you changed their gender changed their
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name and then created an entire career based on you awkward very awkward yeah to just be so
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talentless in comparison yeah again but i mean a philosophy tube is a working actor she she is
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currently in a play that is running in london so i don't know you know if it's one of these like
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totally non-profit yeah who knows that it's an i mean a trans main actor i i don't
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i don't know if she's the main actor i just know that she's we had a friend who was trans
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in in broadway and when they detransition not like for political reasons or anything like that
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they just realized they had made a mistake and they were completely blacklisted from the industry
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just for detransitioning which i think shows the bigotry that you see within the trans movement
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it's like you know you cannot be a what's the word in islam when somebody deconverts a i don't know
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apostate oh no apostates that's that's not a that's an english word okay so income they have
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median household income of 52 000 whereas the gen profit 74 580 and other disparities like 33
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percent are on assistance and stuff like that so no i i don't know maybe you're right maybe they
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all have secret wealth somewhere we didn't look at their like total net worth or do they have rich
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parents and that does check like a vibe check for me on the trans people i've known here is what i
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think the real answer is okay and it ties down to remember we've done episodes on like where is the
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actual woke audience like why is it's not like not a lot of people are buying this stuff it's that
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almost nobody is buying this stuff yeah there will be like well advertised triple a games
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meant for a woke audience and like 500 to a thousand people will buy it like it's it's not
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that the audience is statistically lower than the audience who's against them it's almost as if it
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doesn't exist at all and the hypothesis i had there was and we mentioned this in this episode
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is that um and and this i came to from watching a lot of woke people talking about the content
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that they consume is that they actually predominantly consume content from their
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childhoods they a lot of cartoons a lot of stuff that aired 10 20 years ago and the reason seems
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to be as they are afraid even of content that is made for them of potentially encountering something
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that is triggering or new it's just not worth it like the negatives of new content new ideas
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sticking yourself outside the box are so much more damaging to them than the
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the new stuff sucks they're just living in the archive like we all are
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i mean i i disagree with that i watch the funny thing is is i watch a lot of transcoded shows like
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i for example am a big fan i watched it all the way through i think i i might have even finished
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the reboot or at least i've watched a lot of it of steven universe yeah right like steven universe
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is many people would say this is like woke propaganda at its most propaganda you know
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a show trying to normalize multi-gendered entities and lesbian relationships in aliens right like
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uh you know people and and a lot of talk about feelings there's a lot of that yeah and i talk
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about like even shows that are essentially about turning red which i i point out is about selling
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your sexuality because the panda represents her sexuality very clearly in that in the show
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the message is hide it from your parents they won't understand and make money selling it to
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other kids at school selling pictures of it on your cell phone right like that's actually what
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happens in that right like it's about but i'm like but it the show's actually entertaining
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like i'm open to admit this i thought the reboot of she-ra was pretty good like i'm consuming the
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content when it's good that is made for woke people yeah you are i am not like woke phobic
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right i however i will note something actually this is important to note i however do not consume
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some woke content like i do not watch the new star wars or anything like that even though i
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like star wars i don't watch the new star treks but i tried to i thought i would like it right
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like i started with whatever the reboot discovery was and then after a while i was like oh this sucks
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but then they did the picard one and i was like i don't want to watch the star trek about old people
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but i love lower decks i've seen all of lower decks like three times it's fantastic and lower
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decks is woke but it's good woke right you know and then i see a show or the the woke games but
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i never i never play the woke games right and i have started to turn away from like triple a
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hollywood woke stuff and so the question is i actually want to ask this like a wider meta of
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like asking myself why do i like reflectively turn away from some woke things and i don't
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reflectively turn away from other woke things um thinking thinking what is it what is it about
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some woke things and not other woke things i can't even identify because i i couldn't tolerate
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steven universe for example and you liked it so i don't know i think it's that and it's it's fewer
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and fewer woke things that i like there's been no woke thing in the past couple years that i've
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liked maybe the last five years that i've liked and so my answer here is i think they just got
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more and more creatively bankrupt as time went on and it became more and more about dei in terms of
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the actual creative process. I think what we saw historically was actually decent creatives who
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were infected with woke ideas. I think what we see now is the industry has gone through a process of
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DEI-based hiring so much that there is no longer anybody competent in the room. And a lot of the
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people who've been woke for a long time have lost their talent over time. You can go to our, like
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Stephen Colbert, right? Like he clearly lost his ability to be funny when he used to be hilarious.
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but a fun fun news piece about this is a penguin random house subsidiary put out a thing about like
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who they want books from and they explicitly said we don't want we want books from non-white people
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so like if you're if you're a white man especially you have a traditionally european name we don't
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want to hear from you so you know you wonder how big this is that penguin random house felt it was
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okay to just publish that like on their site like we are racist and proud that is our brand racism
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anyway let's go over my potential answer here because i was i was getting to it it might just
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be that they isolate themselves from other people way more if you're talking about trans and gender
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non-conforming people 63.9% are lonely and they link this to things and and and 70%
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are diagnosed with anxiety and depression so what it could be is they just do not leave their house
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as much that could be it that could be the whole explanation that would help i mean yeah not a lot
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can happen of new stimuli they are afraid of potentially disconfirming stimuli stimuli that
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challenge them. And if you are terrified of any sort of new environment, you may just not go out
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and not interact with people. That's my guess. For a quick recap on the hugely overrepresented
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trans community within mass shootings, I think it's worth touching on that because the last time
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we did a video that was last year, there have been two more trans mass shooters since then.
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When we did that episode, a bunch of people were like fake news. I wonder if they like
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see the new trans mass shootings and they were like was i wrong about this being fake news
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or did they just in one ear and out the other right like uh because i pointed out that on a
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per person shot basis the recent canadian trans mass shooter killed more people than the two
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columbine shooters did i.e on a per that is wild and that new story wasn't even relevant for three
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days whereas columbine shocked the country for like five years yeah the amount that this can be
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memory holding the amount to which everyone just normalized it even on the right now it's like oh
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another trans mass shooter of course like whenever you hear a mass shooter today you're almost like
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were they trans this time well i think so much has changed too you can also look at this in the
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context of the attempted we'll say is islamic or muslim terror attack in front of mayor mondani's
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mansion in new york city or two pennsylvanian brothers attempted to throw a nail bomb or
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multiple nail bombs oh my god and cnn's response to that did you see what i said to you yeah it
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was basically the way the news is extremely so cnn said in response to two muslim teenagers
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attempted to mail bomb a crowd and when mondani talked about it he tweeted about it acting as if
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they had tried to mail bomb him instead of the people protesting him right but cnn um said and
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and the person they got them on a hot mic in the car saying others like me will come my community
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like in muslims specifically they said won't let this stand cnn then twisted this to say two
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pennsylvania teenagers crossed into new york city saturday morning for what could have been a normal
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day enjoying the city during abnormally warm weather but in less than an hour their lives
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were drastically changed now you've read this so far and you've been like they must be talking
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about somebody who was hurt by the attack right right and then it continues to say as the pair
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would be arrested for throwing homemade bombs. Well, and what's interesting as well is the
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sentiment, like the, we'll say anti-Muslim sentiment in the, in the United States and
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especially New York has not seen any hit based on this. I think if anything, there has been
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an increase in pro-Muslim sentiment in response to this. Cremieux on X was referring to it as a
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front lash as opposed to a backlash against muslims due to this attempted terror attack
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and my theory as to what's happening here and maybe this is the same thing that's happening
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with trans shooters is basically anyone who acts against western culture capitalism and or white
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people is seen per the urban monoculture which sees basically anyone that hates those things
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as being good is is to your to your favor you know that means that you you're a good person
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i think i think similar patterns have been people have said similar patterns are observed with the
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october 7th attacks in israel that that only led to this search and surge in support for hamas and
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for palestine and not for israel so basically if you if you hate jews or white people or western
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culture or capitalism you are good it doesn't matter what you stand for you're the good guy
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we like you more because we have to attack these things and take them down and so you can't be
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wrong by being trans because that is anti these things yes the culture sees it so to go into the
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names because if somebody's like oh you're lying about the trans mess shooters because look at this
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org that did x study ai like reflexively tries to take that position often unless you tell it
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actually count the numbers it'll it will go and say well x group did a study to show that this
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isn't true and it's like here's just the numbers you can verify each of these instances okay
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randy stare west market supermarket east township three killed this is the one who's known as the
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danny phantom shooter who is often not included in these lists and i don't know why he was clearly
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trans he want he wanted to be a cartoon girl from danny phantom and thought he was going to be
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reborn one if he killed a bunch of people nanji mosley this was 2018 rite aid distribution center
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killed three wounded three alec mckinney stem school highlands ranch killed one but attempt
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to kill more there were eight wounded anderson lee andock or aldrich this was the lgbt plus
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nightclub colorado shootings five killed 19 wounded andrew hale covenant school nashville
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tennessee six killed three children three adults dylan butler two killed one student one principal
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six wounded shooter died by unaliving guinness ivan moreno lakewood church houston he ended up
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killing zero but one child was critically wounded and the shooter was killed by police but it was
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attempted mass shooting number day carrier the five killed five injured if this one was one where
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people are like this individual wasn't trans this is one of the ones where people push back the most
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but he has facebook photos of him wearing women's clothing jewelry makeup and fake breasts and you
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can say well he's just a cross dresser but he would have been considered trans or gender what's
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the word like it's expansive by these other studies so why don't we get to count them in
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our numbers but they get to count them in their numbers when they dive explain that to me that
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doesn't sound fair at all they clearly gender expansive so then natalie samantha oppo the
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abundant life christian school madison wisconsin two killed teacher and student six wounded
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robin westman catholic church school indianapolis two killed children 30 wounded theresa milo this
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was vt highland shootout near canada border two killed this was one of the zizians
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emma banni this i think with another one of the zizians sorry emma barani oh and the first one
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sorry i pronounced it wrong was theresa young blood or ophelia bacholt and so this was a ca
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trailer park shootout uh michael zico another zizian there was a trans death cult by the way
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that's a a thing that we need to be aware of who were the zizians really racking up the numbers
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here for their community shooting to kill parents and then maya sec trans woman they they they were
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not a shooter and then since then we've had robert drogan this was the rhode island incident and then
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Jesse Van Rudeler. This was the British Columbia, Canada one. Okay. And to, to go with the lower
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numbers here or the higher numbers. So we can go as the, the lower number, which is 14 in the
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United States, or we can go with a higher number, which is 15 in the United States. If we go with
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the higher number, that means that trans people commit mass shootings at 23.8 X the rate of the
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average cis individual it would mean that on the lower end it's at at least around 20x the rate of
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of cis like it's not even close you'd have to like again these numbers aren't like a fudge here like
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you can fudge this number out or this number out fine say this person didn't successfully kill
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enough people or this person wasn't exactly trans right like they were just gender expansive even if
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you take out half the people you're still looking at rates 10x higher than the cis population
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right like it's it's it's even if then you say well okay well then let's cut them in half because
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of i don't know reporting bias then it's still 5x the rate right like the the regardless it's
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egregious yeah regardless it's egregious it's not like an edge case sort of a thing here
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and we have episodes on why this is if you want to look at those episodes but this really frustrates
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to me they're always like how dare you say x or y don't you know that trans people are the target
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of violence every day and it's like well mostly of black people okay as we've seen from the trans
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black statistics and way less so than other groups and yet they are way more likely to be
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the perpetrator of violence in other groups so like it is it reminds me of the have sympathy
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for the muslim terrorist extremists right like and it's like i'm sorry i don't right like they
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they are the person who is hurting other people right like they are the social uh what's the word
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here like like they're not socially harmonious or whatever way you want to put it right and these
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are things that could be worked on but to work on them we have to admit them first and we need to
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investigate them. And yet this is something that it doesn't fit the narrative that these groups
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want to be true about themselves. So it just doesn't get investigated. It doesn't get looked
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into. And we collectively as a society just don't talk about it. I mean, even conservative
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influencers don't talk about this very much. Any final thoughts, Simone? Any hypothesis you have
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above mine? I still hold that I think estrogen can play a role, reducing testosterone can play
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role in the past the united states justice system used versions of this kind of chemical castration
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against people as a punishment but also in an attempt to like reduce their rate of
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essay yeah yeah what you gave to essayers and we're giving it to children now well and and to
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adult men and i mean i think it's understood what the effects of these things can be
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so i think that that also is a role but i do think that broadly speaking yeah the person who
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doesn't go outside is not going to experience the same risks as a person who does go outside
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okay okay this one is going to be weird and maybe more malcolm focused
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okay i think there is something as a man that is viscerally satisfying about getting into a fight
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it is it gets your adrenaline flowing it's i used to get in fights all the time i was a very
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i remember with stephen mullin he's like i i never got in a fight grandma i was like you've never
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gotten a fight growing up like what's wrong you're like a fight virgin like it's a we i i know it's
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socially whatever but i think boys are supposed to fight right you know our kids fight all the
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time and right now it's play fighting but i expect oh my god i made the huge mistake this
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morning of getting onto the floor to dress them huge mistake they all attack you that's when they
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attack yeah i mean i was also like play fighting with them because that's one of the easier ways
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to get them dressed right you just like grab one of them by the feet start pulling their clothes
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they're getting strong now right they are oh my gosh and indy too she was going in
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she sees what everyone else is doing she knows what's up we're taking her down yeah so again i
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don't know if this is a cultural or me thing but it's it's that when i fight people i like to fight
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people it's funny i don't i don't swing both ways when it comes to like sex arousal or whatever
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but if i'm fighting a man i want it to be a strong tough looking like regular looking guy right like
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i don't want to fight a weak looking man that wouldn't be oh and you know we're talking about
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that that pattern with our kids too that they only appear to have interest in attacking
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the most strong person it's like a challenge like you wouldn't want to play the like
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we were at that walmart yesterday looking at various levels of of sour patch kids
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strongness was that what it was game thing and they found out that they could sell it by selling
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it at levels of sour but people only bought the highest level of sour right and like our kids only
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want to fight the highest level of threat the strongest looking person and you would only want
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to fight a strong looking person i would find it viscerally disgusting to fight a trans person
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it would not be a satisfying experience and maybe i know this is something people don't talk about
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like how great it feels to really let someone have it you know but and i and i but other guys
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must feel this way i mean people recreationally box people recreationally do mma would you get
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the same joy out of boxing a trans person like i don't think you i think you'd feel like but
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and i'd be scared of like knocking out their cosmetics and stuff i know all that money oh
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gosh not just all the money but i don't want somebody's nose to come off when i hit them
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like god that's that's not that's not how rhinoplasty works i don't i don't know how
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rhinoplasty works but i get you you you you actually break someone's nose to reshape it
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i don't i don't want any of the i don't i don't i've seen michael j his nose is gonna fall off
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it's gonna look like a skull i'm gonna be i i do not know what they've had done but i'd be afraid
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right i'd be like well i can't push them here because these are fake and i don't want to knock
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them out you know i'd be so i could i could see that leading to lower rates of violence
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people being afraid to break something in the comments can be like malcolm that's not normal
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but i i suspect it is normal i suspect when a guy gets in a fight he does he wants to get in a fight
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with like a physiologically normal looking guy yeah i mean that checks out not like a diseased
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looking guy that too yeah you're also just i think that that beyond that there's just maybe
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kind of a level of subconscious fear of trans people like i don't want to touch that person
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oh i definitely have that yeah no it's not even that like i would feel concerned in a fight with
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them it's more like don't make me touch it and when she says subconscious fear i need to i'm not
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talking like phobia in the traditional sense i'm talking like like infection like like like a leper
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you wouldn't want to fight when i see like a leper or like the joke of the guy from scary movie who
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has like the little weird deformed hand and he puts it out he's like grab my hand and they're
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like i don't want to yeah take my hand ah come on you're gonna fall unless you take my hand no
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give me your other hand oh my other hand isn't strong enough you take my little hand no get it
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away from me you don't feel that way about the deformed person or the leper because you hate
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lepers or you have some sort of bigotry against yeah there's just like this inherent squidgyness
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well because it's the same thing that your body is giving you being like this person appears
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phenotypically abnormal they might have a contagious disease like that's what i assume
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is is causing this reaction in people and you don't want to get in a fight with somebody who
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might have a disease in a historic context either yeah exactly i think that that has more to do with
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it but yeah that could also be a factor people are too afraid to meet them up anyway love you
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to death simone have a spectacular day i love you too gorgeous
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So I'm trying to get that booked, but I can't get it booked without a consultation.
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And I can't book a consultation without calling their phone number, even though
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their phone number tells me to use their online messaging system, but when I use
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their online messaging system, they tell me to call their phone number.
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And then when I call their phone number, it takes 20 minutes.
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ironically that has been the more frustrating like frustrating thing to navigate today in
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contrast to the peruvian banking system which was surprisingly user-friendly today yeah i find a lot
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of in peru they have things some things they're surprisingly streamlined yeah it's weird some
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things are like amazing and better way better than the u.s and then other things are like wait
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you are going to make me go to this place in person and not only sign the contract in person
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but put my inked thumbprint on every single page of that like 100 page contract what is happening
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here and what's crazy is as i remember this there was this one time when we were trying to
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respond to this government rfp essentially and i was able to see the skill with which government
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bureaucrats were able to do thumbprint contract signatures because they just done it with
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thousands of pages and it was like watching a blur with like the stamp stamp and like the page
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flipping and the thumb printing and i was just like i'm gonna actually argue that i think the
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thumbprinting thing is a good idea i think it's it's better than signatures because i think
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signatures are just way too easy to fake and a thumbprint it's incredibly difficult to fake and
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honestly i don't even know why we trust signatures at all it's it's we shouldn't
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a weirdly everything you have signed in like the past three years
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me signing it on my computer where i have a saved picture of your signature on my macbook
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and this is you know like you know contracts worth you know possibly millions of dollars
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you know secure financial agreements government things you are a lovely person Simone
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I cannot by the way fun things I learned today that I think you and the audience will enjoy
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one is is that a Chinese team actually found out what causes hallucinations in AI
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AI and how to potentially reduce it significantly. So it turns out that if you're looking at like
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individual nodes, you know, each layer of an AI, it's like layers of a neural net.
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It turns out that it is an incredibly small amount of the nodes that generate all of the
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hallucinations or almost all of them. So it is something like, I think like a fraction of a
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I think it's 0.1% of the nodes lead to it or 0.01%.
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The problem is, is that if you down-regulate all of those nodes, AIs stop producing human-sounding responses.
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You can down-regulate them a bit and, you know, you're dealing with a trade-off of less hallucination.
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So that was a fun one that we have now learned.
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they found that certain types of nodes cause it but they didn't very few nodes lead to almost all
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of them and that if you make these nodes much more likely to trigger what that ends up doing
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which is really cool is that ends up making the AIs much more user-pleasy they will be much more
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interested in like if you say oh did you get that wrong after they got something right they'll be
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much more likely to say oh yeah I did get that wrong or if you say something like I'd really
00:49:04.540
like to know how to make like a dangerous weapon they'll be much more likely to do that for you
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but that's kind of like a human who's being hypnotized being like why yes I was tortured
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by a satanic cult in my childhood oh that is interesting are they the hypnosis is a hypnotist
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when they are looking for people on the stage are they looking for people with extra of this
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type of node in their brain. Oh, well, no, 100%. They're, I mean, like, it is known that they
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target agreeable. Oh, there might be something to cook with here, Simone. I think you, you might
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have found something here. Well, the first thing that I thought about when you said this Chinese
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team has figured out what makes LLM hallucinate was like, okay, great. You're going to find out
00:49:46.540
what makes humans hallucinate by determining this. You are clever because for people who don't know
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hallucination, sorry, hypnotism is a very easy way to implant memories in people. They're the
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huge problem with this when hypnotist goes to somebody to find buried memories um what is
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normally actually happening is the person is making up new memories but then believes that
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they're buried memories and maybe we should do an episode on this too though because there are
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certain types of people who are more likely to be subject to hypnotism and there's even this
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i don't know what fidelity it has but apparently there's this like eye trick test where like i
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can't remember exactly how it works but it's something to do with your eyes and if you pass
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or fail this test you're way more likely to be a good candidate for hypnotism or like to be
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vulnerable to it and so maybe that also has to do with the way that your brain responds or how
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active a certain like that might show the threshold at which your brain does certain things
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and so i do i do wonder if there's a series of patterns here that we could connect together to
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create a theory as to what makes hallucination in human and llm alike could be okay final piece
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of information today that i thought was fun is the new ayatollah of korean you know the guy's son
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he released his first statement today oh i thought he was dead because he was mii and like hold on
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hold on and it was written oh well so i mean a lot of people are like what like did they they would
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would be the even if his leg was blown off if i were him and my leg were blown off and my family
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was killed i would show myself in the hospital room bloodied and bruised it would give me points
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yeah yeah look at this they're you know doing this to a this this poor man whose family has
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been destroyed by these terrible infidels blah blah blah i mean like yeah the other ayatollah
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would make video messages all the time you know you can make video messages and still stay fairly
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hidden right like so why isn't he making video messages and the i think the unfavorable answer
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is is that and a lot of people have said that he's in a coma if he's in a coma it means he was
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elected to this position while in a coma which means they wanted just like a figurehead who
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wasn't going to push them around honestly wasn't that basically just the biden presidency at the
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right everyone's favorite leader basically in a coma they love doing this but yeah so that could
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be what's happening i think the most charitable answer i can come to is that he was injured in
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some way that like looks really bad on film and they are afraid that like makes him look weak
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on film yeah but weak maybe he's on like a ventilator or something or he's covered in like
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things going into his face and so they can't do just a video of him talking what's also odd though
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is that iran has been very trigger happy with ai videos you can just put a filter that makes him
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look normal yeah right so that could be one thing the other thing could be that he is actually that
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terrified of israel finding out how to backtrace him that's more plausible given how ai happy they
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are with videos because they could just fake something well unless people be like well that
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was obviously faked you yeah and then causes them more problems all right but interesting i mean
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if he is dead or almost dead i mean the trick is you can't kill a dead man as soon as they said
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that everyone's like oh they're just going to kill whoever's next so they elect a dead man
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good move oh by the way i didn't talk about this on our last episode on the move that i would take
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if i was a trump administration right now is and i know that a lot of people are going to freak out
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because it would be a boots on the ground move but there is one port space where i think it's
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75 percent of iranian oil is shipped from because it's the only in the black sea deep enough space
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that they can fill stuff and it's this small island and we have always been against bombing
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it because the the if you bombed it it would be hugely economically relevant to like the world
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and israel wants to bomb it right now because it would destroy iran for a long time but i think
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and trump apparently has even used this what we should attempt to do is just take it like occupy
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it make it a u.s occupied space and be like look iran you play nice and we'll let you sell oil
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that would also explain why trump is saying he's not ruling out boots on the ground even though
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that's really unpopular for people to hear because that would be so strategically powerful
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it was just one little island and you take it and now all of a sudden you have uh basically a sandbar
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you enforce iran to not mess around with the straight of her moose which again is just
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protecting chinese interests anyway which whatever i don't know if you've heard but the dollar is
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shooting up and the euro is crashing right now gold is crashing too oh really my gold
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i think a lot of people were betting against the dollar and when push came to shove everybody went
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back to the dollar and everyone who had thought there was going to be some sort of other major
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asset got burned anyway I'll jump into this so I heard banging why did I hear banging
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stop this is Indy's bed India's supposed to sleep here why are you jumping
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